tonight, on average, a storm talked off. we discuss who . do talked off. we discuss who. do you trust most on immigration labour or the conservatives .7

labour or the conservatives? we'll have a look at elon musk over twitter and inviting donald back onto the platform. we'll ask tom kane to join us on talking pints tv. anti celebrity we'll ask is that where our money should now be invested that much much more but all up after the news . i'm alex porter after the news. i'm alex porter the gb newsroom the rmt union has announced a new industrial action over , the festive period. action over, the festive period. it says its will not work overtime over christmas and will stage a series of 48 hour strikes in december and january . dates include the 38th to 14th. the 16th to 17th of december and the third to fourth and sixth to 7th of january. it's over a long running dispute overjobs it's over a long running dispute over jobs and working conditions . rmt general secretary lynch says the union has been and that

the government is blocking any resolutions . the whole process resolutions. the whole process has become a farce that only the new secretary state can now resolve and i will be calling on him to act up to his responsibilities thursday in. the meantime, our message to the pubucis the meantime, our message to the public is we are sorry to inconvenience you , but we urge inconvenience you, but we urge you to direct your anger and frustration at the government and the railway during this latest phase of action . latest phase of action. nottingham police say the mother of young children who were killed in a flat fire has died. the case is now being treated . a the case is now being treated. a triple murder. the case is now being treated. a triple murder . fatoumata the case is now being treated. a triple murder. fatoumata haidara had been on life support since the blaze in clifton early on sunday morning . the children , sunday morning. the children, aged one and three were treated at the scene for smoke inhalation but later died in hospital . detectives have been hospital. detectives have been given another 36 hours to question a 31 year old man on suspicion , killing the family. suspicion, killing the family. the home office say a migrant

processing centre in kent is now empty after concerns had become extremely overcrowded . it said extremely overcrowded. it said the manston site to temporarily house people reached the uk via the english channel has been cleared, having moved every one that was there to hotels at its peak. earlier this month, the centre was holding 4000 migrants at least double capacity living in conditions an inspector called wretched energy supplier have been named and shamed for failing customers. with regulator ofgem saying problems across board need to be urgently addressed . a review found severe addressed. a review found severe weaknesses at five companies good energy outfalls so energy , good energy outfalls so energy, energy and utilita ofgem say households missing out on free gas checks and firms aren't enough to identify those on prepaid metres who may need help . in total, 17 suppliers have been told they to improve their approach to vulnerable customers . the king has been hosting his

state visit as monarch . king state visit as monarch. king charles has welcomed african president cyril ramaphosa during a ceremony at host parade. the then proceeded the mile by carriage to buckingham palace, where a banquet has been held in the president's honour. this gb news. we'll bring you more news as happens. now it's back to nigel nigel . nigel nigel. good evening. it's been the elephant in the. of british politics. for the best part now of 20 years. yes day. we even use the word for goodness sake . use the word for goodness sake. don't mention it at dinner parties in notting hill or hampstead. otherwise never be ianed hampstead. otherwise never be invited back . but i think i had invited back. but i think i had a fair sense this as leader of ukip, that something fundamentally was changing in the country without a conversation. indeed 2015 i led the party an election manifesto

in which i said immigration has dnven in which i said immigration has driven down wages and led to job losses . british workers. we losses. british workers. we should employ and prioritise british. i proposed an australian point system moratorium on unskilled workers and an absolute to start training british people forjobs . we were relying upon lower paid migrants for. i even dared to suggest that and rising population meant longer waits for worst traffic , our roads and for worst traffic, our roads and a near—collapse of public services. well, i can tell you in 2015 for my trouble i was every name under the sun . but every name under the sun. but fast forward a few years and here was sir keir starmer. today addressing the cbi . but our addressing the cbi. but our common goal must be to help the british off its immigration

dependency , to start investing dependency, to start investing more in trading workers who are already here . the days when low already here. the days when low pay already here. the days when low pay and cheap labour are part of the british way on growth must end . this isn't about brexit all end. this isn't about brexit all around world. business is waking to the fact we live in a new era for labour and while they're adapting our low growth model is holding us back . well yes, of holding us back. well yes, of course. i agree . absolutely. course. i agree. absolutely. every single word of that, even if i every single word of that, even ifi doubt every single word of that, even if i doubt his sincerity . but if i doubt his sincerity. but contrast that with robert jenrick cabinet in the house of commons two weeks ago, answering this question from a labour member parliament from bradford east , imran member parliament from bradford east, imran hussain. thank you, mr. speaker. according to the home office's own figures of the total accepted and rejected visitor visa applications just

under 20% ended up as rejected . under 20% ended up as rejected. yet when it comes to those of pakistani and bangladesh bangladeshi rashi nationality these figures suddenly dramatically and are explainable advice to 30. so does the minister staff really expect us to ? that is nought. please show to? that is nought. please show or religious bias the home office. absolutely, minister. well, the honourable gentleman is completely wrong and that is a baseless slur on my officials at home office. oh all visa applications are based on objective criteria, and i would add that there were in fact, 303,000 visas and permits granted for family members in the year ending june 2020 to a six, which is 61% more than in 2019. so the home office is granting record of these visas, and we do so an objective

fashion, local . well, there you fashion, local. well, there you are. how bizarre . we have a are. how bizarre. we have a conservative cabinet minister boasting in the house of commons that record numbers of people are coming , 61% increase since are coming, 61% increase since 2019 for family reunions alone, 1.2 million visas. issued by the conservative government last yean conservative government last year, let alone the chaos in the engush year, let alone the chaos in the english channel and the reluctance to anything about it. and he is starmer. as i say , or and he is starmer. as i say, or not talking tough. remarkably a piece of polling published yesterday , the evening standard yesterday, the evening standard by ipsos asked which party do you most trust to deal with immigration ? the channel asylum immigration? the channel asylum labour got 33. the got 21% for the first time in decades. other than the short ukip blip. it is now the labour party that are most trusted to deal with immigration. i'm asking you, do you agree with that? let me know your views. farage at gb news dot uk . and i'm coming to

dot uk. and i'm coming to clacton on sea on thursday this week with a live programme from seven until 8:00. you want to come along to clacton on sea for a live show ? because i want to a live show? because i want to find out if one of the biggest brexit voting areas in the country. how do you six years on, has brexit delivered for you or is something going wrong? please go to gbnews.uk and i'll see you in clacton on thursday. so scarlet maguire, former labour advisor. you know, even a labour advisor. you know, even a labour person. i mean, how it feel now to be supporting a right wing party. i don't think there's anything right wing about labour . there's anything right wing about labour. i mean, what keir was talking about, and i think this is really important , is this is really important, is about actually skilling up britain because i mean decades we've we've lagged behind the rest of the continent, you know, i mean, particularly germany. it is an absolute disgrace face that we don't train enough doctors , that we cap the medical doctors, that we cap the medical schools so that we don't try doctors. so what do we do? we go

to the indian subcontinent, we go to asia or africa, and we run. we bring them in and we bnng run. we bring them in and we bring them in nurses. right. first the tories did when first thing the tories did when they got in in 2010 and said the nurses , the bursary for so that nurses, the bursary for so that many, many young who want to be nurses not particularly well—off . no they'll come out with massive massive debt. i mean, this is completely wrong. what want to do is we want to skill people up . we want them to have people up. we want them to have good jobs . to hear this because good jobs. to hear this because it's tony blair. he is tony blair who started a trend unopposed by the conservatives to send 50% of youngsters to universities mostly to get degrees social sciences. we began to look at our noses people that learnt trades and skills. i mean this is i think this is let's be frank you know i fought against ed miliband tooth and nail in various the labour party was all over open

door. labour party was all over open door . underjeremy labour party was all over open door . under jeremy corbyn we door. under jeremy corbyn we were all of the world. this is a big in labour policy. no i mean, actually it's not. i mean, i, i mean, i think this is a myth about this open door policy. i mean, i mean, i remember trying to get fit when i was a trustee, oxfam, and i said, we need have people working in oxfam who actually come from africa so they know what they're talking about. you could not get them in. and that was when labour that was labour was in charge. it is it just has never happened. this open door policy . is you see what's happened to the british population since 2000. it's risen nearly 10,000,085% of that is due to immigration. 10,000,085% of that is due to immigration . these are immigration. these are fundamental changes to british society, to our access to gp services, to the ability of youngsters to get houses and now albeit, albeit old are, you know blame immigration. let's not the numbers. no, let's not. but really what are these people. so

what do people who come to this country? do they ? go into public country? do they? go into public services. they they they are doctors. they are . they are. i doctors. they are. they are. i mean, you know you try going to a hospital , right? and now i've a hospital, right? and now i've spent a lot of time this year. i mean, the odds are you're going to you're going to come across somebody is who is really trained and not from britain . it trained and not from britain. it is it is immigration. trained and not from britain. it is it is immigration . you will is it is immigration. you will find you will find hugely of people who've come to this country in the last 20 years that are on out of work or in work benefits, much as you will find people that have come in who've done amazing , fantastic who've done amazing, fantastic jobs, an integrated . what i'm jobs, an integrated. what i'm saying to you is this the sheer weight of numbers has fundamentally changed the quality of life for british people and maybe just maybe keir starmer is now recognising that. no, i think he's i mean, i too have been living here for the last 20 years. right. and you see the change now. i have not seen no, i have not seen seen really. no, i have not seen kids buy houses. have kids that to buy houses. have you to get a gp you tried to get a gp appointment? have you driven

down the m4? i do not blame not being get gp appointment being able get a gp appointment on fact that the people have on the fact that the people have come abroad. i mean it's come in from abroad. i mean it's so million increase in so it's a million increase in population many many as i population, many and many as i keep saying, many of them or not many , but a proportion of them many, but a proportion of them are gp's that we go to. i mean it's no shame on us for stripping out african and indian . well, look, i'm agreeing . i . well, look, i'm agreeing. i mean, keir starmer says , we mean, keir starmer says, we should have another 9000 and places in medical school to train doctors. absolutely is we should stop poaching from india , from the philips? of course we should. that's what i was . and should. that's what i was. and that we should. and we should . that we should. and we should. upskilling our workforce. there's nothing i agree with. i agree with all of that. final thought . as the next election thought. as the next election comes in a couple of years time or whatever it may be , is the or whatever it may be, is the labour party going to be the one that's going to control our borders, the perception of the minds of the public more the conservatives? well yes, but i mean i mean, you about migrant.

you about people over in you talk about people over in the i mean , you know, it the boats. i mean, you know, it was appalling that percent of people who came over in boats last year have been processed. 96% are still living in hotels . 96% are still living in hotels. the reason we've got people living in hotels is because this because this government has absolutely lost control of immigration is without doubt true . so starmer sounding tough true. so starmer sounding tough long term supporters filling slots certainly uncomfortable i said scarlett without a bit of this i thank you for giving me your thought. now on this of those coming across the english channelin those coming across the english channel in ireland , there's a channel in ireland, there's a very different problem. it's as i understand it it's people arriving at dublin airport without passports. they've lost on the plane or somewhere en route and now claiming asylum and it led to street protests this week. take a look at these pictures . i'm hoping to see some

pictures. i'm hoping to see some pictures. i'm hoping to see some pictures . no, i'm not getting pictures. no, i'm not getting any pictures . which is rather any pictures. which is rather disappointing painting, to say the least. so we've had up to 700 people in dublin out protesting against asylum seekers coming into ireland . and seekers coming into ireland. and joining me is herman kelly, president of the irish freedom , president of the irish freedom, a former colleague of mine in brussels. herman you know, we always think of ireland as being out , just being very open , very out, just being very open, very tolerant. what a spark act. these street protests has sparked this ire. and anger. well, a hundred years after partial irish independence, sinn fein , the so—called republican fein, the so—called republican party , have carried out their party, have carried out their policy and it's carried out by all of the parties in ireland between a full or phoenix. gael and that policy is on immigration is pretty. and that policy is on immigration is pretty . everybody immigration is pretty. everybody else in and you wouldn't believe that hardly without any debate

in ireland at all. the percentage of the population 17% of the irish population the moment are non nationals. 17% of the people born in ireland currently live outside ireland. so it's a one for one replacement. there's nothing in theory in it. and as you there is a huge security. security risk because 40% of the very large people who come into ireland to claim asylum for whatever reason or any at all. 40% say that they've between getting on the plane , getting getting on the plane, getting off in dublin, that they've lost their passport. but they can all turn off at customs kiosk and say asylum . and the minister say asylum. and the minister radical government has basically out search parties looking for asylum claimants around the world telling them that will they get all get a free house of

free access to housing, free health care, education for months after they've got to approval for their asylum application . so at the moment application. so at the moment the countries know for fascinating erm and kelly thank you for that brief resume. we're going to keep an eye on what's going on in ireland. it's fascinating suspect if hear people were out protesting in the streets they'd probably all be arrested and as racists really really interesting. there we are brits out everybody else in. in a moment, we will discuss . elon musk's takeover of , . elon musk's takeover of, twitter, his invitation to donald trump to rejoin the platform . what it all means for platform. what it all means for the world of social .

media well, whatever keir starmer says

today that ipsos mori poll yesterday showed vast numbers . yesterday showed vast numbers. you don't trust either party to deal with legal or illegal immigration. and so it is actually with gb news as when i asked you which one do you trust most? and says , no, i don't most? and says, no, i don't trust either . richard says trust either. richard says labour, trust either. richard says labour , we need more immigrants labour, we need more immigrants to fill all the essential job vacancies caused brexit. well richard actually saying the opposite to that today . you can opposite to that today. you can doubt his sincerity. what he's is we must upskill the british workforce. i have to say , i workforce. i have to say, i agree with that. for the last 20 years or more. one viewer says nehhen years or more. one viewer says neither. both are liars. useless and both hate the uk. well, that's about what you get when you discuss subject. i don't think there's an issue on which westminster are more out touch with the great british public , with the great british public, the legal and illegal immigration. now you'll know, of course, and we've covered it before, that this extraordinary of elon musk has of course over

twitter vast numbers of employees have resigned or been fired . he held a poll and. fired. he held a poll and. donald trump has been invited back to the platform. what does all this mean for the world of social media? well, joining me is a twitter competitor. jason miller is a ceo of the social media app guesser and of course, a former to donald trump. you're a warrior for free speech, open opinions. presumably you welcome elon musk taking over twitter. absolutely and i think this is a great move for free speech. and quite frankly, i think president trump, as running for president again in 24, should consider joining every normal platform thatis joining every normal platform that is out there to get his message out. but for most people, has really people, nothing has really changed . you have such as changed. you have folks such as the sceptic robert the mandate sceptic robert malone, still off of malone, who's still off of twitter . has reported that twitter. axios has reported that there are many people that still shadow banned overall shadow banned and the overall user is still user experience is still particularly negative for so . particularly negative for so. but now want to bring but now i want to bring something that else has

something that nobody else has covered or talked about. the twitter whistleblower , the twitter whistleblower, the former security chief who testified in front congress testified in front of congress he raced to issues over summer that i haven't heard anything about. musk took over. number one, does the ccp spy still work at twitter? i haven't heard that brought up at all. and secondly, what the security breaches did former twitter security chief raised . have those been fixed raised. have those been fixed with everybody fired ? i doubt with everybody fired? i doubt it. mean, these are massive it. i mean, these are massive questions musk and questions for elon musk and maybe his head. maybe he turns this into huge success. this thing into a huge success. maybe he doesn't. what does trump do? i you know, 2016, it was his tweet that got him around the back of all the mainstream media that reached was he got 88 million followers. i think it is. but he's his own platform to his social which is a fraction of that size. what does do in your view? so does trump do in your view? so always been his superpower to evade the mainstream and evade the mainstream media and go voters and go directly to voters and something that he mastered is something that he mastered is something in something president bolsonaro in brazil helped to take to another level. happened be sitting level. i happened to be sitting across who in

across from someone who in political has been an political realm has been an expert you're darn good as expert. and you're darn good as far as communicating with people via social media. president trump has his own company that puts him in a little bit of a pickle. i think a certain point there's probably a bit of a divergence on what's the priority for 2024 and then what is he going to do with regard his company? hopefully there's a way can both. i want way that he can do both. i want to see him be successful. but that vehicle that million of tens millions of people a tens of millions of people is a great amplifier a way to great amplifier and a way to evade deal the evade have to deal with the washington post, new york. washington post, the new york. he know, last he wrote, you know, last he announced that mar a lago he's running 2024. it was a running in 2024. it was a slightly muted atmosphere slightly more muted atmosphere than 16 as that than it was in 15, 16 as that campaign picked up, ron desantis , 44 years old, a different generation and in prospect , not generation and in prospect, not just for the republican party , just for the republican party, for american politics, which frankly looks up to us on this side of , the pond. we can't side of, the pond. we can't believe everyone's over 75. it's extraordinary . can he beat, extraordinary. can he beat, desantis in the primaries. i think so. he's done it on the

national stage before winning the primaries in 2016 and 2020. obviously, he won 2016. the general against hillary clinton. and now with polling for 2024, it shows that he's joe biden in arizona, wisconsin and georgia tied up in pennsylvania . tied up in pennsylvania. natural. there are two keys coming out of the speech though to make sure folks in the uk here understand what he was trying to accomplish. one was motivate base that he's motivate his base show that he's anti—washington he could anti—washington guy. he could deliver 2016. it deliver that message in 2016. it was harder in 2020 because he was harder in 2020 because he was in the white house. tough to. say you're an outsider when you're white house. the you're in the white house. the second your second thing, though, to your point conversation point about the conversation seemed a little bit more muted. he to make sure that he he had to make sure that he connected with on the connected with voters on the economy inflation, didn't economy on inflation, didn't talk look talk past grievances look forward was deliberate forward. there was a deliberate move don't see that just move and i don't see that just because to work with because i helped to work with him product. but i think him on the product. but i think it very less about the it was very less about the stolen election. you mean there wasn't anything about in the wasn't anything about it in the in remarks on tuesday was in his remarks on tuesday was completely forward he completely forward looking. he made a little bit about made a crack a little bit about 2016 or where it was 2016 or 2020 where it was forward looking and i would much

rather criticism that rather have the criticism that maybe was a little bit more maybe it was a little bit more muted say he was muted than to say he was addressing . but you're clearly addressing. but you're clearly still fan and know he's still a big fan and i know he's a friend of yours. now, a great friend of yours. now, this, this is the this, folks, this is the solution. this is. think about this. india is a country with over a billion people in it. they are the largest functioning in the world. they hold elections. they get a result within 5 hours, morocco a county in arizona . i was, if you in arizona. i was, if you remember, two weeks ago , we'll remember, two weeks ago, we'll be announcing the final results of the elections on november the 28th. is american now been on a republic? it's a little for all the harassing for all the things we do right as a country this is pretty bad. he almost other civilised country can get them done. civilised country can get them done . the fact that some places done. the fact that some places isn't called is not just arizona . and arizona, by the way, the republican . republican. well, republican. republican. well, now going to be a democratic governor, but it's been a republican governor in charge.

republican governor in charge. republican legislature to have been to get their act been able to get their act together. if republicans don't figure out what went wrong in 2020 addressed us. whether it's get day voting get it to the same day voting paper ballots or experts and beat the democrats at their own game . going beat the democrats at their own game. going to again in game. going to lose again in 2024. it is that critical because right now the playing field like i field is tilted like this. i have to say, jason, i have to say, look , it looked at from say, look, it looked at from here the whole looks absolutely ridiculous . here the whole looks absolutely ridiculous. thank you your ridiculous. thank you for your thoughts, your we're thoughts, your comments. we're going musk, going going to watch elon musk, going to you're to watch twitter. i know you're a competitor, you know, if a competitor, but you know, if you free speech, we'd you believe in free speech, we'd love whether he love him to succeed. whether he will remains to be seen. whether trump back on the platform. trump goes back on the platform. also be seen . my also remains to be seen. my guessis also remains to be seen. my guess is you'll find it hard to resist passive. twitter survives . they're all resigning. but it's interesting . it's it's interesting. it's fascinating. in a moment, it's interesting. it's fascinating. in a moment , the fascinating. in a moment, the government's moronic decision to put super taxes on companies that happen to happen, to have couple of good years means that shell are now considering withdrawing a £25 billion investment from the north sea .

investment from the north sea. we'll discuss all of that in a moment .

i loathe budget last week as indeed our live audience and said i'm just a small business man and businesswoman . but this man and businesswoman. but this idea that you just taxes on companies that happen to be doing well that somehow bring in vast revenues all will be well. well always thought it was completely and utterly. i think hunt actually is the most anti—business chancellor that we have seen possibly our lifetimes . overnight we get the announcement that shell, who having thought it a little bit because of all the negative messages, then committed to £25 billion worth of investment in the north sea , now saying the north sea, now saying they're reconsidering their position . well, i know. just position. well, i know. just stop oil may be delighted and

may claim fewer on the m25 and cw may claim fewer on the m25 and cry we're all going to die. but the truth of it is we will be using fossil fuels for some time to come. so why not produce it ourselves in this country ? why ourselves in this country? why not produce jobs off ? the back not produce jobs off? the back of it in scotland and, the other related industries ? why not get related industries? why not get the tax revenue ? this to me is the tax revenue? this to me is a potential self—inflicted global andy mayer is energy analyst at the institute for economic . just the institute for economic. just put into perspective for our and listeners these taxes that jeremy was going to put on firms like shell . what did they amount like shell. what did they amount to? so total the corporate and total special corporation tax regime paid for by of the companies in the north sea. now amounts to 75% slowed down so for every pound yeah shell could make through massive capital investment in the north sea. they would pay a tax rate of 75. thank minus some investment

allowances , a few other wrinkles allowances, a few other wrinkles and things that the government over the years have had to bring in because every time they've raised taxes, the companies have reacted . reducing investment, reacted. reducing investment, which usually means to reversal. after a few and special allowances to offset the impact of the tax , which is the thing of the tax, which is the thing labour say they're going to remove which would do even more damage . so what are we doing? damage. so what are we doing? what are we doing. well, what do we saying business? because we saying to business? because you this tax , once it's you know, this tax, once it's been imposed on a sector this andifs been imposed on a sector this and it's going to be imposed on the wind energy sector as well, although of course there on the know they given money on the bafis know they given money on the basis of the price of gas which always seem crazy but mean. are we living now in a country where a conservative chancellor can just taxes willy nilly and just slap taxes willy nilly and almost retrospectively on companies in different sectors ? companies in different sectors? well, it's almost 20 to years to the day that margaret thatcher resigned and having been assassinated by own party and the current government , the current government, essentially the intellectual

successors , those guys, the ones successors, those guys, the ones who did her in. and in that respect what we're looking at is tory socialism . so we're looking tory socialism. so we're looking at people who want the level of tax and spending should go to pay tax and spending should go to pay for more public services. so in the long run, they want the books to balance all sound money people and was their chief religion. liz allegedly. religion. liz truss allegedly. but them at their but let's take them at their word now. i mean, the word for now. i mean, the markets certainly, all they have reacted way, reacted in the same way, but they think can do this and they think they can do this and it help the long run to it will help in the long run to stabilise. but what it will actually do is what it did before 20 1516 and collapse tax revenues in north sea. after a few years of . a sugar rush so it few years of. a sugar rush so it won't work . and what it means won't work. and what it means for us is that we have to become more dependent on foreign imports of energy, this energy and which and dependence which the government say they have total nonsense, quite nonsense, must be quite depressing and free market depressing. and if a free market think like you to say a conservative government basically running along the same policy lines that labour no argument for enterprise no argument for enterprise no argument for enterprise no argument for a smaller state. tough days for you. given we've

been around for nearly 70 years it's again for us. so we've seen this with the post—war consensus , with this muddle through where of the major parties seem to agree everything and are not prepared to tough difficult decisions focussed on prosperity and growth . now there's every and growth. now there's every chance they will turn it around if . gas prices and chance they will turn it around if. gas prices and oil chance they will turn it around if . gas prices and oil prices if. gas prices and oil prices come down further. although the oil prices are already starting to come down quite a lot. but in the longer term they will have no choice because they won't get. the tax money from doing all this . they won't have the all this. they won't have the spending to their interest spending money to their interest groups whether they're on groups happy, whether they're on the or the labour side the tories or the labour side and will be left in a position where the markets start to question. can really all question. can you really all these promises making, these promises you're making, even the election is now two even if the election is now two years it's have tell years away, it's have to tell you honestly , i think it's you honestly, i think it's shocking. and the other thing , shocking. and the other thing, quick on this i'm quick last thought on this i'm speaking increasingly to a lot of young people in their twenties who are entrepreneurial, are setting up

their own companies or want to who are now relocating to portugal and some to italy where they've been given tax free deals the next years. we're deals for the next years. we're about see a drain again as we about to see a drain again as we saw back in the 1970s. it's a strong i mean, you can never say for certain the government thinks it's doing various clever with incentives elsewhere . with incentives elsewhere. they've done as such is adopted . miliband's agenda of tackling what they call predatory capitalism . so i'm presuming capitalism. so i'm presuming that they can work out who the good guys are and encourage so green for example green energy firms, for example , pharmaceutical companies, some kinds aerospace but it's not working in reality. business is business and we don't know which businesses going to be successful based in the uk . we successful based in the uk. we have to let the market decide and on export success , not and based on export success, not on the predictions of politicians . i don't like it. politicians. i don't like it. andy mayer thank you much andy mayer thank you very much indeed. believe that 75% indeed. can you believe that 75% they may get a allowances, they may get a few allowances, a few you few pence off, but if you overcharge companies overcharge large companies for what is capital no guarantee profit in oil and gas you know in fact in 2020 a lot of them

lost a fortune. now what the average moment today it's got to be the football can you believe it i thought argentina messi's last world cup for actually in terms the price at the bookmakers they probably offered better value than brazil and yet they were beaten today by saudi arabia you couldn't make it up. tomorrow is a national holiday in saudi arabia now albeit this is the first match of the group stages. maybe we shouldn't too excited. but yes don't cry for argentina is what we're telling you. and as we speak almost unbeliever play australia are drawing with france. oh it's now to wonder france. oh well there we are. well that's one underdog fairy tale that perhaps has just come to an end a last couple of seconds . in a come to an end a last couple of seconds. in a moment, i'm going to be joined by tom tv antiques expert known for whole host of big bbc programmes. we'll ask him about the mysterious world

of what represents and whether in an inflationary area era . in an inflationary area era. some of these things make good investments . that's talking investments. that's talking pints in. just a moment. coming up on dan wootton tonight. all three backlash to england's barnstorming debut in qatar. is it to celebrate black excellence 7 it to celebrate black excellence ? can slippery keir starmer really be trusted to tackle the crisis? plus liz truss loyalists and former member of her cabinet run virgil warner, breaks his silence on the globalist coup that the 50 day pm. that's dan tonight. 9 pm. to 11 pm. on jb news.

it's my favourite time of the day. yes, it's talking pints . day. yes, it's talking pints. i'm joined by auctioneer tv antiques expert , tom cadence on antiques expert, tom cadence on welcome to nice to meet you king pis. good to meet you. now i got a slight problem with you as a guest. yeah. what's up? it's jealousy. really? because my. when i was 17, i did the careers course at school . they course at school. they recommended what you should do . recommended what you should do. and number one on the list for me was okay. there are i never met. he was . and you have never met. he was. and you have never to like come down. you can jump the wall. well, you never know. you never know. i mean that you started off, you know, in the scrap metal business the way the dealer . what scrap metal business the way the dealer. what was scrap metal business the way the dealer . what was this big event dealer. what was this big event in your life put more into the world of antiques . oh, scrap world of antiques. oh, scrap metal dating and boxing, car selling things are a bit tough. so i got a job. olympia yeah. yeah. have you been in there? i've spoken. i roof. it's a

climb now the inside of a daunting job but back in 89 it was put the trapeze wire up and got pulled out of the roof 30 feet and goes on a ladder and came down crushed broke my and that put me in a wheelchair and sticks for two years i doing that i went to an auction for the first time you were like this because it was a poll tax rights going at the time and i was complaining about westminster council taking mr. smith to court , not paying the smith to court, not paying the poll tax and. the bailiffs have been around and taking their things above the auction and voila, senator chair first auction ever went to. i bought a microwave oven and, a video recorder because i understood it was and bidding at auction bidding at auction got them for to nothing complaining about poll tax and why this happened but at the same time couldn't refuse bargain and when then i made a profit straight away so that took me into the auction

world not this study studying antiques. yep take it on board . antiques. yep take it on board. just studying everyday. fell in love it and 30 odd years later it's been right i love you know as you've moved into that world antiques you mentioned have you specialised in areas or are you a generalist? i'm a generalist a generalist but specialised more in furniture with more of a generalist , in furniture with more of a generalist, you have to be in small companies. yeah. i mean, so how it okay you had this horrible i got i've had a couple of horrible accidents and. it does you rethink people who does make you rethink people who face life call it face change your life call it yeah plane crash isn't good as love it i've been but i was still here but how do you go from a cheap microwave at auction, you know, to finishing , you know, on bargain hunt, on cash in the attic. and you got all these programmes how do you finish up a big a bit of a tv selection just be in the right at the right time. i think when these tv programmes came out back in 2002, cash in the attic that had researchers looking

round know anything about antiques and i suppose i bet the character shaven a bit of a barrow boy look if you like and rather been plumb in the mouth and unapproachable. they came and unapproachable. they came and saw and i got them through was saleable wasn't and it took off from there. it's a good fun doing this programmes. it's fantastic fun can be a bit draining can be hollywood but we wouldn't change it's been is because can't match david dickinson sometime i'm not sometimes i love never seeing natural colour is it i believe you believe you so do we do you know you've got on you work through auction houses you've now got your gig operator so i've always own my own auction. there's no work for one right. you've always enjoyed unemployable. yeah, i'm think i'm a bit like that too. unemployable. yeah, i'm think i'm a bit like that too . what i'm a bit like that too. what happens if i want to sell something? i buy something. i come you . what are you going

come to you. what are you going to be if i've got to sell something? are you good at selling for me? i can sell anything from a needle. an anchon anything from a needle. an anchor. it's about your expectations and what you think they're selling . well, i don't they're selling. well, i don't know. mean, collect medals. know. i mean, i collect medals. i'm the mind to any at i'm not in the mind to any at the minute, but would you a good person to come to? what would you or would say no, come to you or would you say no, come to be with furniture or why? why, tom, you why tom, would somebody you why would auction would they come to your auction house? come to ask. give house? they come to ask. we give a service across the board. a good service across the board. if the expert enough to know if i'm the expert enough to know about an item, i've got a team of experts on contact and consultants and come in so you can bring in anything you like within 24 hours of the proper valuation for you know, for what he said. i mean george weston commissions with the lowest commissions with the lowest commission rates in london. you know that i'm going to come to that because you that going see it because you see be the same to me see seems to be the same to me that we live in very heavily regulated world where. profits are what can be charged . private are what can be charged. private customers are generally quite tightly regulated . all sorts of

tightly regulated. all sorts of agencies i am struck by the eu mob loophole. sure right. you've got sellers. buyers i mean your costs of this stuff are enormous outlay. it depends where you go. it depends you go and auction will charge exhort . i know ours will charge exhort. i know ours are being the other auctions will charge you the bigger firms in charge 3030 5% per lot 25 30% the other way as well. plus you really have them fees the other way as well. plus you really have them fee s £100. really have them fees £100. i lot that was fair. guess men rip left out there isn't it. if you don't know negotiation is won't negotiate on buyer's premium so let me tell you what was change the last 1215 years from my of view job i got your medal a the comes in and i catalogue him a bravery medal average and put it down putting walk away. that's

why i used to oh now i've got to catalogue it. well yes i'm a photograph of it. i've got the condition report , i'm going to condition report, i'm going to upload it online and deal with enquiries so . the costs have enquiries so. the costs have gone up four or five times to process a lot. that's why the cost to buy a premium so i know you agree. we already, as i say, they always come out with this those is that the costs have gone up and are we any better off profit wise? we're not. we're still making the same of our margins with the cost of increase by by five or six times, with having told me that age when inflation has come back you know we haven't seen it for 30 or 40 years. people under the age of 45 have never seen inflation inflation . people are inflation inflation. people are worried about cash being in the bank devaluing before their eyes . they're a bit scared of the stock markets after these years of rises, bonds have horrendous over the course of the last couple of years gold has been disappointing crypto currency . disappointing crypto currency. well it was pretty good this

time last year it's not so clever. don't touch that one this time. this year are you seeing a move to what we used to call an economic theory tangible assets all people that are looking to buy things in a way perhaps they were before inflation . in truth, the market inflation. in truth, the market slowed down buying things. they're still buying quality . they're still buying quality. what happens in all recessions now? you know, hey, this is auctioneers make money with things are tough people want to sell things now because the exchange rates quite bad in this country we get foreign investors and foreign buyers coming in. so for americans buying stuff here , the bogeyman. fantastic. that's right . that's what's that's right. that's what's happening in the auction where the chinese very astute, very clever businessmen , they come in clever businessmen, they come in and make 15% discount just in the exchange never to the exchange rate, never want to buy anything so our markets buy anything out. so our markets will be okay. markets are will be okay. the markets are very but domestic market very strong, but domestic market is shaky . if you very strong, but domestic market is shaky. if you had to very strong, but domestic market is shaky . if you had to look at is shaky. if you had to look at i mean, you know, i'm not asking to put your neck in line here

too much, but if you had to look at a sector of say, the antiques that you thought right now represented quite good value and in your view, in five or ten years time would prove to be goodin years time would prove to be good in this very uncertain financial world, we're what sort of areas would you like ? it of areas would you like? it depends. what end of the market want to be able to be. invest in the low end. why water picture. they're so cheap for good artist. they're falling the floor. a one can be cheaper. there's only one way up. yeah, i just. because all these things 90, just. because all these things go, fashions and trends and trends change. but the watercolour paintings are very good value at the moment . can't good value at the moment. can't last for much longer. i mean things about making the thousand pounds, things about making the thousand pounds , £2,000 are now down to pounds, £2,000 are now down to 100 quid. i know. yeah. the 100 quid. i know. oh yeah. the affordable market. no, not as well . just squiggles known . well. just squiggles known. artists are making no money . if artists are making no money. if you go into the upper end of the market jewellery , jewellery you market jewellery, jewellery you never lose on jewellery is transport of all you wear and

providing in the long haul you'll make money. but there's one big day now. the watercolour thing fascinating the one big danger time with of this particularly the modern world of owning nice things wearing things displaying nice is the risk of theft . and you've been a risk of theft. and you've been a victim of this haven't you? you've done your research having memory just a couple of times that hurt her, which i will bulldoze over the wall. didn't get anything but smashed the place up and the thankfully the cool them and they've got prisoners still doing 17 years so we won't worry about those for a while. but if people buy nice things they will put a safe in the house. so what are they going to do in the modern world? a in the house is good. i a safe in the house is good. i mean, it's so bad in this country. we go and do valuations in spain. we a brits in spain. but we a lot of brits come to us. they've all been robbed been and all of robbed or been mugged and all of their prized possessions through auction in england because auction rooms in england because because the crime yeah because of the crime rate. yeah it's going it's going to get worse. going to it so we got to get worse. it yeah. so we got to get worse. it yeah. so we got

to protect ourselves. tom thank you for joining to protect ourselves. tom thank you forjoining me on talking business. love the thought business. i love the thought about as about watercolours being as cheap sounds me cheap that that sounds to me like a really really good idea that gb market that could a gb news market spike coming tom thank you spike coming got tom thank you for me. you, buzz. forjoining me. thank you, buzz. splendid you . i och it's time splendid you. i och it's time the barrage the barrage. i got a couple of minutes left this show mary asks me, can you face years of labour government ? what? of labour government? what? we've got a labour government, have we. oh no. sorry. that concern is. i forgot. they've just got labour policies. mary honestly, i'm not will notice the difference . only that labour the difference. only that labour are now much right wing when it comes to and crime. i mean i completely doubt starmer's sincerity on this, but that's the message they are now putting out . asks me , do you think the out. asks me, do you think the suella braverman will take us

out of the gate? john says the weather is appearing tomorrow in the house of commons before one of the committees , you know, up of the committees, you know, up . she's the full she is the one that's been put up there by sunak. she's got to deal with the cross channel disaster. and when she doesn't, she the blame there is absolutely . i promise there is absolutely. i promise you zero chance of suella braverman being allowed to take us out of the cia job. if she had the power and own right, she would do it. and i promise you, i said it before a dozen times. had i been a conservative member of parliament in a leadership election campaign, i would have voted for her because i believe she's absolutely genuine and totally sense that she won't be allowed to do it . this totally sense that she won't be allowed to do it. this is now a globalist government. there's effectively been a coup that has taken place in westminster. please, please please, please, please wake and smell the

coffee. i'm just quickly. he will make a better pm. lee anderson, david frost or jacob anderson, david frost orjacob bracewell . well, you know what? bracewell. well, you know what? i like them , but i do. you know i like them, but i do. you know what ? he's an ex miner. he's what? he's an ex miner. he's down to earth. he likes a beer? he tells it as it. i can't help it much as i like the other two. i think anderson's terrific now mark steyn what have you coming up for us. he'd last less than play up for us. he'd last less than play the beast out of the market. markets would wouldn't like that. he's a great guy. yeah. yeah, he's a he's a great quy- yeah. yeah, he's a he's a great guy. i just like people . these guy. i just like people. these when you see them at the g 20, they're like some class of it's like you could swap the country's rishi and justin and just sitting there mean it wouldn't make any difference wouldn't make any difference thank nigel great show always we're going to try and keep it going we have a terrific line up

for you. we're going to talk a little bit more about what nigel is just talking about, the future so far as it has. one of the concern of any party and much important, the future of british conservatism. if there be such a thing, we've got a great line—up up. guess and it's all coming up right after the break . hello again. it's aidan break. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here . the met office mcgivern here. the met office showers will ease in many places , leading to a clear and night, at least at first, before more rain arrives in the west. later, that rain coming quite quickly from the atlantic courtesy of this low and this area of weather fronts well ahead of that another sets of weather fronts slowly from the east and northeast still bringing some wet weather to orkney the early part of the evening. the wet weather pushing into shetland along with some force winds. otherwise lighter winds, clear spells for many and for scotland northern eastern england, a widespread frost , close to zero. widespread frost, close to zero. if a little below in some sheltered spots but a different

story for northern wales in the southwest here a wet and windy start to the day , a milder start start to the day, a milder start as well. but the rain will be intense even if it is fairly lived. it pushes through the rest of england into scotland by lunchtime and it tends to ease into showers by the end the afternoon. but further follow it for northern ireland , wales, for northern ireland, wales, western england. these showers be heavy, they'll be frequent and they'll be accompanied by a gusty wind that we know coming from the southwest will be a little milder 12 celsius in the south ten celsius further north the rain and wind in the far north. so for the shetland and orkney will continue into wednesday otherwise much wednesday evening otherwise much of it's just clear spells of the uk it's just clear spells and showers those showers again coming the west mostly coming in from the west mostly affecting western areas. affecting central western areas. the chance of clear the greatest chance of clear spells towards the east where did some shelter from the did get some shelter from the breeze morning breeze on thursday morning temperatures will dip into the mid to low single figures but i think a widespread frost is unlikely because of the gusty breeze that many areas will

experience . so that continues experience. so that continues into the start of further showers the west in, the showers in the west in, the north, thing. this north, first thing. then this next intense but next band of intense but relatively fast moving rain through, accompanied again by gusty winds. but those winds are coming from the south southwest. so there's a warming up trend through the next few and into the weekend, even if there is more wet weather .

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