hey welcome along to tonight's mark steyn show. a nominally new show, but same old, same in the headunes show, but same old, same in the headlines asylum seekers on the southern shore seeking to get a piece. the ultimate asylum the nuttiest of not houses the united kingdom you install a billionaire as prime minister

then you surprise. he doesn't want to wait and sit around a&e for 48 hours. and what's with stanley johnson's national plan for you.7 we stanley johnson's national plan for you? we have a great line—up of guests lois perry, dominique samuels, william clewiston , samuels, william clewiston, habib on a party that sold its souls sold out its principles sold out , souls sold out its principles sold out, union sold out. you british conservatism needs new style. i'm going to try to figure out what that should be. plus the most important part of the show you. what's your take? what's your take? particularly i'm years of so called conservative government you can email me jb at gbnews.uk. you can tweet me at gb news. grab yourself a cuppa or a snifter according to taste is all coming your way after alice read the latest news news . i'm alice latest news news. i'm alice porter . the gb newsroom the

porter. the gb newsroom the union has announced a new industrial action over the festive . it says its members festive. it says its members will work overtime over christmas and will stage a series 48 hour strikes in december january. series 48 hour strikes in decemberjanuary. dates include 13th to 14th and 16th to 78th of december . 13th to 14th and 16th to 78th of december. and 13th to 14th and 16th to 78th of december . and the 13th to 14th and 16th to 78th of december. and the third to fourth and 6 to 7 8th of january. it's over a long running dispute over pay jobs and conditions. rmt general mick lynch told gb news union has been reasonable and that the government is blocking any . the government is blocking any. the government is blocking any. the government are in disarray. they don't really know to how handle this industrial dispute they've got all these other problems in with public sector pay and the state of the economy. we've seen their performance in a series of mini budgets which have been disastrous for working people and for the economy. so i'm going to try and out on thursday from the secretary of state exactly he's up he's exactly what he's up to if he's prepared be a person goodwill prepared to be a person goodwill and create that atmosphere where

we can develop a settlement that could happen very quickly and we'll have no for any strikes we can it to our members . can put it to our members. nottinghamshire police say the mother , two young children who mother, two young children who were killed in a flat fire, has died and the case is now being treated as triple murder . treated as triple murder. fatoumata haidara had been life support since the blaze in clifton on sunday morning. the children aged one and three were treated at the scene for smoke, later died in. detectives have been given another 36 hours to question a 31 year old man on suspicion , killing the family. suspicion, killing the family. 17 energy suppliers have named and shamed for failing vulnerable customers with regulator ofgem saying problems across the board need to be urgently addressed. a review found severe weaknesses five companies good energy . so energy companies good energy. so energy true , energy and utilita. ofgem true, energy and utilita. ofgem households are missing out . free households are missing out. free gas safety checks and firms

aren't doing enough to identify on prepayment metres who may need help . footballer cristiano need help. footballer cristiano ronaldo is leaving manchester united with immediate effect as part of a mutual agreement with the club. this after the 37 year old criticised the club and its management last week . in management last week. in a statement the club thanked him for his immense contribution his two spells at old trafford . the two spells at old trafford. the has been hosting his first date visit as king charles has welcomed african president cyril ramaphosa during a ceremony at horse guards parade. they then proceeded the mile by carriage to buckingham , where a banquet to buckingham, where a banquet has been held in the president's honoun has been held in the president's honour. the king personally requesting that only sustainable fowl flowers. we tv online and dab radio. this is gb news now it's back to mark steyn .

it's back to mark steyn. what the hell did i hear that i sustainable flowers . the king sustainable flowers. the king only has served sustainable flowers . what the hell does that flowers. what the hell does that even mean? there's no such thing as a sustainable . they're going as a sustainable. they're going to be dead in a couple of days. that's. that's where the fly is. i don't know. unless he's unless he's entertaining the south african with artificial and i can't think it's even come to that anyway nice to see the commonwealth flags all horse guards today the conventional political fault of left and right doesn't seem terribly useful days . for the last three useful days. for the last three years we've watched so—called right wing governments enact covid policies from their left wing opponents and they've both wrecked the economy loose lose the worst inflation in half a century up on the world, damage the generation kids driven a stake through coal western

liberties such as freedom of movement and incidentally large numbers of people as evidenced in the excess mortality stats every week . boris did in the excess mortality stats every week. boris did it. in the excess mortality stats every week . boris did it. justin every week. boris did it. justin did it. scott morrison in sted it must matt in france did it left right left. if electoral politics is just a matter of choosing who gets to screw you oven choosing who gets to screw you over, it's great. covid as a cautionary tale is particularly however for british tories. they have governed land for 32 of the last 50 years and the result is the country has never seemed conservative may remember. her now may neither. but theresa may told tories they to stop being the nasty party, so they gave up all the social conservatism from the john major days, the back to basics , values, stuff. he basics, values, stuff. he professed to be in favour of you

say 48 hours before some backbencher was found to be sharing a bed with , another sharing a bed with, another bloke in a continental motel or getting a little carried away and auto erotically himself on kitchen table in stockings with the sat suma and a tab of ecstasy so they got rid of the social conservative and the entire tory has spent the last 12 years also erotically asphyxiating itself in front of the nation . it lies there on the the nation. it lies there on the dispatch , writhing in orgasmic dispatch, writhing in orgasmic ecstasy as it throttles itself for tonight's transition to hi. okay, so we've ditched social conservatism. now we can focus on the economy by converting every hotel in the kingdom into a hostel for albanians traffickers. we can modernise is the nhs by turning it into world's most lavishly funded call until last thursday . you're call until last thursday. you're standing in the house of commons . nothing left to wreck, so you

impose the highest burden on the british people . 1948 oh, and british people. 1948 oh, and ulsterman remember you , the ulsterman remember you, the conservative and unionist party is not the name of the party, right? those you stiffed in the northern protocol tell you what you belfast . we're going to you belfast. we're going to increase your corporation tax to 25, which is double what it is of the border. 12.5% for the guys. of the border. 12.5% for the guys . so of the border. 12.5% for the guys. so you're of the border. 12.5% for the guys . so you're stuck in guys. so you're stuck in a single market. that's just a parting gift in a disintegrating pass me the fishnets and another tab of a are we approaching the final newman of a once great political party? the tories are on their fifth flop. our leader 12 years, their third in three months and they seem be getting even less minimally residual conservative with each iteration . you really be that surprised to hear the 1922 committee

announce that jeremy corbyn made it through to the next round of the next leadership contest? is there real opportunity here for a political realign . william a political realign. william clewiston , the leader of the clewiston, the leader of the social democratic party and me now , william , i keep talking now, william, i keep talking about 1992 and the canadian tories when they were reduced to two seats. yeah is there a flaw for the uk tories here? are there is a flaw. i mean, the two parties system that we have protects the weaker party doesn't , it that's how it works. doesn't, it that's how it works. that's what canadians thought. yeah. no but we're in different times. so i think we were in a sort of perma crisis. we've had the and then we had covid and we've had, you know, it's literally one thing after another and the public, the older members of the, you know, the country , they can that the country, they can see that we're very poorly governed, very, poorly governed . and, very, very poorly governed. and, you the tory party is in

you know, the tory party is in deep, deep trouble. i think the main reason that that it main reason that is that it doesn't values. doesn't actually have values. it's well known . its only value it's well known. its only value is have power. it doesn't is to have power. it doesn't actually believe in anything and the that i always use to the word that i always use to describe them is indifference. they're totally to what is made and by whom, even if it's they're not bothered about that they're not bothered about that they don't care who runs our railway they don't care who owns the water system in london. they just don't care about anything. and i think the public have had enough of it . and i think the public have had enough of it. i think they will certainly dispatch the next election for people who don't know you're party has its and that's you know the people under 40 or 50 or whatever but your party has its in a breakaway fracture from from the labour party 40 something years ago now on the continent when we these new parties emerged emerge whether you're talking marine le pen or georgian maloney, they're

basically people who are sort of rather left fiscally. they're not going to disturb the post—war welfare state in those , but they're culturally can servitude. that's right. and they seem to have that as the sweet spot . continental sweet spot. continental politics, culturally conservative, fiscally kind of liberal. does that translate to the westminster system and to and to his majesty's dominions , and to his majesty's dominions, i think the first past the post system puts a very, very wall around the two existing party system. but if you look at value divides and what people actually believe, about half of the pubuc believe, about half of the public they agree with our offer, which is traditional social conservatism faith flag , social conservatism faith flag, family, you might call it a bit of patriotism, a caring about industry and. so on the foundations of society and they combine that with a little bit of a left economics which is in all cases caring about trade ,

all cases caring about trade, you know, they people care about who runs the railways people want the utilities nationalised under state control it basically the sort of thatcherite offer hasn't conserved dancing so i would i've always argued that actually if you're a social you want a little bit of left wing economics in there as well to offer the protection and you saw that in the vote actually a lot of people thought well what what are people voting for. yeah well they certainly weren't voting industrialise and in a gut your industry in a ship all your jobs industry in a ship all yourjobs to china. well they also want i think the consolations culture they don't want to feel a certain age you don't want to a grown lived all your life in the same town, the same county and find your living in a totally transformed landscape . that's transformed landscape. that's right. but where did the tories thing was to ditch all the social conservatism , as we saw social conservatism, as we saw last thursday , they wound up last thursday, they wound up

ditching all fiscal conservatism . so they don't they basically there naked in front of us. what do they got? well, they've got i mean, they a lot of these things are downstream of their own policies . the reason that we policies. the reason that we have higher taxation really now, reasonably taxation , is reasonably high taxation, is that we have economic failure and we have that because we never cared to produce , you never cared to produce, you know, literally the chronic problems that britain has. we consume too much, particularly on imports . and we produce too on imports. and we produce too little and has been going the thing that tells you that is the is year after year after year we produce trade deficits we haven't had the trade surplus in goods since 1985. and that is exactly the sort of tory or new labour the same exactly the same indifference to what is made by, you know , by whom where. let's you know, by whom where. let's import everything and you end with a gutted economy. what's to centred on this city and the price of is high taxation failure ? well, rishi rich is

failure? well, rishi rich is a very sort of symbolic figure in that because he's wealthier than the king and no one. no it's not like henry ford. oh he did the ford model t you see how he made his mates not even like zuckerberg with facebook. you might think it's rubbish . it's might think it's rubbish. it's a thing with rishi it's all much more a much more general. yeah. you don't quite know what his fiches you don't quite know what his riches have done for any actual engush riches have done for any actual english man scotsman, irishman welshman getting up in the morning and gone to work. but all of things have cultural causes, i'd argue so if you look at immigration, for instance, for we've had an basically an open labour market for 30 years, what are the consequence of that we don't have to train anyone don't have to bother because if we don't have enough particular skills, let's just import . and skills, let's just import. and that's of liberalism that's the sort of liberalism that's the sort of liberalism that kicking against. that we're kicking against. well, me ask you this. do well, let me ask you this. do you think keir starmer's speech

today in which he we've got to basically, you know, wear shoulder workers, let's import from sudan or was there a stain or whatever. yeah, we got to we got to actually start training the people who are already here. is that just a cynical move to get to the right of these useless stories? well, if i if i were he's concerned about trying to get red wool voters for sure they need those they might have them anyway . but the. no, i them anyway. but the. no, i would i would look at not what he says today. he just before a general election is coming along. look at what he's done. look what he over the last ten or 15 years in favour of massive in favour of open labour markets . and that is a clue to whether sincere now. okay okay. i can't really imagine a sincere keir starmer but some of these posters come with starmer well less drama with starmer not an appealing message. mark my advice to the general public is

don't vote for either of them for any these parties that are the architects of the problems that we've got now don't for either something do you like this you know i mean they're the concern of a party has been a failed party over this last 12 years and these and the only problem is that his majesty's loyal opposition , the even more loyal opposition, the even more failed party they did on everything the tories did only more so. thank you very much, william. always to . great see william. always to. great see you. coming up, we're going to get to your comments vaiews@gbnews.uk. also, stanley johnson owns mysterious national plan for, you and yours. lois perry here on that and dominique sam samuels and ben habib all on a tory take tuesday. we might make this regular feature. we're coming right back .

gb news the table's channel. so let us channel the baby . we let us channel the baby. we wanted to know whether you thought this could be the end of the tory party it's like an old time movie serial where the tory party tied to the tracks as the express train history is bearing on it can . the tory party on it can. the tory party heroine untied from the tracks , heroine untied from the tracks, leslie says they've shown their true colours. they actually loathe the british people. so for me they're finished . that's for me they're finished. that's a very neil oliver live line . a very neil oliver live line. he's not wrong on that. the heartlessness of the government who who basically screwed everything up and are now sticking you with the bill for screwing everything up highlander says it will be the end of both parties people need to take a gamble rather than

stick to the status card. yeah. i'm not looking forward to keir starmer. with 500 seats in the house of commons or whatever that poll predicts . a couple of that poll predicts. a couple of weeks back . if there's some weeks back. if there's some third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh party, i rather like the way in some ulster can here and says they were 17 parties on the ballot find the one that's number 17 and vote for that one thomas says actually the aristocratic class focussed tory is doing fine the conservative and unionist party with a focus on family values and order, economy, immigration the union etc. has died . rest in peace. etc. has died. rest in peace. i don't think there's an aristocratic upper class seem they seem a lot of riffraff to me. you know back when alec douglas hume became prime minister people harold wilson used to tease him about being a 14th earl i don't see a lot of 14th earl i don't see a lot of 14th earls hanging around on the

tory benches these days. john says the parties and the recycled bins full. that's a lovely john. the party's over the tory which bins are full. i was thinking of introducing a covid vaccine death the day spot, but so of them are just too sad . headline from the daily too sad. headline from the daily death of boy 14 three weeks after covid jab of significant pubuc after covid jab of significant public concern the coroner. this is poor joseph mcginty of achill island off the west of ireland county mayo. i think it's county mayo , 14 years old, poor kid , mayo, 14 years old, poor kid, dead, three weeks after getting a shot of the pfizer i could do the stories every night and never run out and ofcom launch as many investigate fans into these shows as they want because

you group think in on the wrong side of this story. you group think in on the wrong side of this story . what's side of this story. what's interesting to me is how it came that the entire western world adopted the same one size fits all policy shoving the pfizer, moderna astra's on their peoples as opposed to trying therapeutics or vitamin d or whatever one size fits all from achill island to aberdeen to aix en provence to athens to adelaide to auckland to albuquerque. odd you know when you see world leaders together like jacinda trudeau, who's supposed to be a liberal, and richie rich, who's supposed to be a conservative but they're all dressed the same like some 19705 all dressed the same like some 1970s telly variety show dance troupe. oh, look them. yeah. what, what number are they going to be. save for a espana una paloma blanca mares klaus schwab as their faintly sinister choreographer. and it makes you wonder whether national politics

is just some alamo song and dance to distract us from the actual important stuff well on this channel a few days ago stand johnson father of failed flop opm was name johnson sort of gave game away it actually means that countries need to divvy up this carbon budget between them and then they need to divvy up the sectors and then they need to have the measures which deal sector sector with which deal sector by sector with getting end if that means actually some of us told what you get plane , that's you can't get on a plane, that's fine. that's part of the part. the national plan . what exactly the national plan. what exactly is stanley johnson blathering about there? the world's nations are going to divvy up the carbon allowance . when did they all get allowance. when did they all get together and decide that that was what they were going to do ? was what they were going to do? have you heard of this so—called national plan and under which some of us will be told can't go on a plane by? some of us i

should clarify, he some of you, the sky will still be full of johnson's but without losers like clogging up the flight path. so all part of what mr. johnson called the quote national plan. well, our friend lois perry from car 26 .org was cunous lois perry from car 26 .org was curious about this national plan and started dig in and it actually is a it is a plan and house of lords produced a report a few weeks ago which outlines exactly how they're going to enforce this plan, which for you to basically do nothing because you can't go anywhere you can't see anyone , you're freezing and see anyone, you're freezing and you're racing insects and yeah and the report talks about they're going to learn the lessons of covid but not how you and i might think they have learned the lessons of covid, but by actually learning how they used basically psyops and psychological manipulation to get people to be nudged into behaving changes. but because

this is the biggest thing to in the report that the technology. so by that type renewable was stupid boilers kind of stuff electric all up to scratch actually compete or replace with what we've at the moment. so therefore the behavioural changes are necessary . now hang changes are necessary. now hang on a minute been we've been told that all renewables and everything are not just the as but better. yeah what we've got but better. yeah what we've got but this report actually they were load a nonsense and so therefore we need to use manipulation tax basically anything we possibly to get people out of that cars sitting in their freezing homes with their stupid new boilers watching screens. yeah it's because they talk about it as if they call it behaviour . yeah. they call it behaviour. yeah. but it's sort actually behaviour change basically taking all the life out of your life . zero life out of your life. zero life. yeah. and if you think yeah. if you think about it like the 19th century which i'm

beginning think now is the peak of our civilisation . yeah. of our civilisation. yeah. right. they, they distance with the invention of the internal combustion engine. they conquered night with invention of the electric light bulb and basically these great inventions of , the 19th century that have of, the 19th century that have enabled to have a terrific time in, the 20th century then as oh no, no, no, we have to undo that. well, since the beginning of the thing, industrial revolution, the life expectancy is doubled. i mean, if that doesn't tell something, i don't know does . but know what does. but interestingly , the covid villain interestingly, the covid villain , sir patrick vallance, his own almost page of this report . but almost page of this report. but the other thing is why why is why is he i mean, i don't even get it. he was sir patrick vallance before covid and then covid came along so they gave him another knighthood. so he sir patrick i mean this is even by the standards of the corrupt

british honour system. no. absolutely the other thing as well, you'll be very pleased to hear that the tony blair has provided some , you know, provided some, you know, commentary for the report . good, commentary for the report. good, sir henry. tony, another billionaire know that happened after he was paid. yeah, but yeah so and they're saying that the polling that they've done shows that the public put in a very supportive of all this net zero stuff. well can exclusively reveal i can't the exact figure till tomorrow because get told of by yougov but a last year before cop26 we did a poll which how many people wanted a net zero referendum by and it was high it was 58. i can reveal actually going up substantially going up and i will be announcing the exact figure. you can, sir. we just my mandate for this . well, no, i know they've this. well, no, i know they've got no mandate . the fact is that got no mandate. the fact is that when you see them in bali and. i love the way they rub your noses in because they always hold the wmmw in because they always hold the summit. they never hold these summits in west bromwich. the summits in west bromwich. the summits are always in bali or

tahiti or wherever it is. yeah, and these guys are all sitting around bali and. they actually believe that when they get together it counts for more than so—called popular , better than so—called popular, better than us obviously. and they're making these decisions for our own good . but you know that. but how will change is nudging telling us that we're going to be eating less meat. well they're saying it's happening, not saying it's going to be discussed. they say is and i love the way is happening. and i love the way they change is they behavioural change is nudging as if they're just giving you a few hints might want white wine to pump that want to white wine to pump that steak away and just a couple of cockroaches say it's not cockroaches and say it's not like that the g20 is saying they're going to mandate vaccine passports so nudging about no they're going to you're stuck wherever are you're stuck unless you agree to these vaccine. well no, and you're absolutely right. and so in the report, when it talks about learning lessons of how brilliant covid went in, terms of psychological

manipulation, it that there's only certain you do only a certain amount you do with then basic can you with nudging, then basic can you have to change the environment . have to change the environment. what mean by that is what they mean by that is basically banning things, banning and stopping things happening. absolute happening. it's an absolute disgrace. it's so horrific. we actually need proper account actually need a proper account that it just having to upset reading that story about, that it just having to upset reading that story about , that reading that story about, that 14 year old boy and county mayo, these stories along all the time and there and as you say the fellows who rule us think this has been a huge success. they say , let's do it to another say, let's do it to another gene. let's it to the next generation of 14 year olds. well, the other thing that's in the report as well says how success awful it was with ofcom that they able to say that that they were able to say that things were misinformation due to and stuff. but to vaccine and stuff. but actually ofcom , if you will, actually ofcom, if you will, what michael grade , who was what michael grade, who was a good semi competent light entertainer, late impresario, now reduced to being britain's chief censor , which is kind of chief censor, which is kind of pathetic. michael you need actually to repudiate you did to

the british media with that statement because house of lords is now boasting on how you shut down and how you down debate. absolutely. and they're that we need to do that with climate change. so i will i won't be on television again. i i that would be that would be the end of it for me. but yeah so there you go. yeah. thank thank you, larry. we're going to have our back. we risk off at ofcom and we're starting at risk ofcom . we're starting at risk ofcom. but we'll do the opposite . but we'll do the opposite. everything ofcom recommend. one of the things i find , you know, of the things i find, you know, rather agreeable actually about rishi rich is how utterly unkind convincing he is pretending to be a man of the people. but the media are affronted on your behalf that dominic samuels here on that and also so coming up ben don't touch that down we'll be back .

did you see this story ? they're did you see this story? they're slamming rishi as out of touch . slamming rishi as out of touch. he's not sitting on an nhs waiting list , crippled he's not sitting on an nhs waiting list, crippled up in pain like you are from the guardian. rishi sunak is registered with a private practise that guarantees that all patients with urgent concerns about their health will be seen on the day . concerns about their health will be seen on the day. imagine concerns about their health will be seen on the day . imagine that be seen on the day. imagine that matter what kind of crazy cockamamie health system i have got huge and the doctors willing to see me at the i'm in pain the west london clinic used by the pm charges west london clinic used by the pm charge s £250 for a half hour pm charges £250 for a half hour consultation . and unlike most . consultation. and unlike most. facilities across the country offers appointments in the

evenings and a weekend. oh it's amazing isn't it. well now , of amazing isn't it. well now, of course rishi rich is out of touch. course rishi rich is out of touch . he is the first prime touch. he is the first prime minister in history of the commonwealth to be richer than the king he's a billionaire. so it's not just that he's hopeless at pretending to be a man of the people. he's hopeless pretending to be a man of the royal family in landed aristocracy. he doesn't need to wait two years for a hernia operation . he could for a hernia operation. he could buy his own surgery , could keep buy his own surgery, could keep a of doctors on his a team of doctors on his personal staff and, not even nofice personal staff and, not even notice the cost if he needed to pretend . empathise with losers pretend. empathise with losers like you, he could move a fleet telephone tests into his and have them answer calls with. please press two if you'd like to see a console in this decade. now back to another 6 hours on hold listening to the theme from titanic night in my dream what's the point making a billionaire pretend we're all in this together when ? he's finished

together when? he's finished screwing over the country, still have a billion and you want and they'll make him head of the imf for the bank or some such just as there are still enough american . and gazillionaires and american. and gazillionaires and layabouts. saudi princes willing to pay boris . a hundred grand to to pay boris. a hundred grand to slough off the same leaden schtick that bombed at spectator lunches at the turn of the century . dominique samuels is century. dominique samuels is here . will always to see here. will always to see dominique . i here. will always to see dominique. i don't here. will always to see dominique . i don't even when dominique. i don't even when everything's wrecked. why does even the guardian bother an exclusive rishi rishi rich doesn't sit around in pain he just goes and pays 250 quid. i really like to know . i honestly really like to know. i honestly think that so called journalists we're really cursed with in this . i would say they just get embarrassing by the second. what do you expect that right? rishi sunak richer than the king do you really think he's going to

sponge off the health service with on waiting lists when he can literally afford to get better? why are you screaming and crying about this and not about the ghastly cost of net zero? for example or the fact that our rights were torn from us and still are or the fact that there are countless people that there are countless people that are being injured or being killed . the vaccines that they killed. the vaccines that they helped push , these are all very helped push, these are all very important , helped push, these are all very important, but instead they focus the fact that a billionaire is not using the nhs and let's be clear, there is no prime minister that is not being able to afford private healthcare . if they do say that healthcare. if they do say that they've used , it's just simply they've used, it's just simply virtue signal and create the illusion . we're all in this illusion. we're all in this together when you have to have half brain cell to know that we're not in this together, what do they . it's confusing at do they. it's confusing at point. well, it's so weird because at the same time his whole horror he's he's sitting in a&e waiting to be seen for

three and a half days at. the same time they're doing that, they show them all capering and gallivanting and the fans at the sharm el sheikh sheikh and then in bali as a class apart as so we're being asked to accept fact that our rulers are so ingenious and so they need to get private jet supplies like that. they're different from us. but no, no. when it comes to the saintly nhs stuff, you know, those at the guardian actually very happy to completely shut and we're all being locked of our homes, not, not for the nhs and this just goes to show how easy we can all be brainwashed because even throughout the pandemic the nhs was held this sort of this diety that we all must worship and never. that we all must worship and never . so of course in order to never. so of course in order to literally i mean it's like prostrating yourself the direction of mecca , the british direction of mecca, the british people actually every first day

frustrated with the direction of the nhs and if you in, if you dare criticise the nhs it's you know it's akin to blasphemy be publicly hung, know it's akin to blasphemy be publicly hung , drawn know it's akin to blasphemy be publicly hung, drawn and quartered, that's insane. we are about it. and then in order to score some sort of cheap point that they know the brainwashed will jump on they pompous , they will jump on they pompous, they saw it as if it's an actual story. yeah. mean it's just it's just not you had a very interesting tweet a couple of days ago where you're basically saying because now we've starmer actually getting to the right of the tories on works whatever works as you say but you're saying this is a this isn't really partisan you know tory thing where with the is way beyond those old tribalism it's way it's way beyond that and it's just clear as day now and people do need to wake up to this there are decisions made regardless of who is prime

minister like for example net zero that's a globally agreed upon thing. if you don't subscribe to it, you'll lambasted like like judge maloney is in italy. if you don't subscribe to these sort of specific talking , you're specific talking, you're effectively council. so it's not about which political party you vote for and really people do need to start realising the you cannot expect a political party to save you. and to be honest . to save you. and to be honest. this will be controversial. i'll say that about the smaller political parties as well. a lot of them subscribe to sort of the mainstream the. oh i even know it's true. it shouldn't. fein wants to still come is committed to the hell out of the united kingdom even though it actually on all this stuff like net zero it actually agrees with the country it wants to get hell out or even certain political believing we should be funding ukraine until we're all bankrupt these are all things that sadly

a lot of these parties adhere to. you know, part of it, i think, is a fear of sort of stepping out of line, you know, when you do step out, line your de—legitimize, your major attacks. and i understand that. but the average everyday person needs to realise it's about our own agency. now what we can do not just, you know, thinking some random actually cares because in my opinion most of them don't. do you think george maloney can hang on? i'm not sure. i feel like it will probably be the same story with you know, it chilled kept mysteriously they'll figure out a way to get rid . yeah and a way to get rid. yeah and that's that's what seems tough and specifically in america at the moment where you know taking ages to count votes and are mysteriously appearing and so you know, we've got democrat ice everywhere, which one consider we've got no no , i love these we've got no no, i love these they've got congressional districts california you wouldn't put up with this if you

in the congolese general election there'd be a bill that would be out smell rich and thing is if you look at even with ron desantis and he won he won re—election he didn't allow all that mail in voting no no he said you going to vote properly and just so happened to win. so paper counted on the paper ballots counted on the night you can't beat it old school thank you very much dominate ben habeeb is no stranger to these . gb news he's stranger to these. gb news he's sending political opportunity . sending political opportunity. some of the same names. sending political opportunity. some of the same names . ask me some of the same names. ask me anything. gb news and gb news uk. we're coming right back.

well, the theme of our show has been the awfulness of the tories, but also the opportunities that may offer to others . ben opportunities that may offer to others. ben habib has had enough

of sitting on the sidelines and wants back into the game. ben there's a lot of kind of alternative parties around out there . you know, you've had there. you know, you've had connections with with a couple of them, but do you think this is really one of those watershed moments for a political realignment? it's a very good question. you know, back when we had the brexit election 2019, which was a binary election, it was for brexit. i thought this is the time for an insurgent party to really make an impact. and back then, as you as you know, mark, i was a member of the brexit party and it was with great dismay in a sense that nigel for me anyway stood out. 317 candidates because that handed the election to boris johnson and i had already decided in my mind back in 2019 that boris johnson wasn't going to deliver brexit, not the way that he promised it. the country was not to leave the eu as was not going to leave the eu as one united kingdom. weren't

one united kingdom. we weren't going of our going to get control of our laws. weren't going to get laws. we weren't going to get control of borders and so control of our borders and so on. we those 317 on. and when we stood those 317 candidates i thought that candidates down, i thought that was the opportunity for really changing the political landscape. that was the end of the opportunity in the uk , but the opportunity in the uk, but you could not build even that three years that we barely, barely three years into an 80 seat majority government , they seat majority government, they have so trashed the economy , so have so trashed the economy, so trashed their political capital, so trashed their reputation that actually this government is looking at an utter obliterate opfion looking at an utter obliterate option at the next election and not everyone wants to vote for starmer. there will be a lot of people who want an alternative , people who want an alternative, who want a party that actually believes in british sovereignty, a party that believes in the british national interest. it wants to get away from the eu, that believes in deregulation, that believes in deregulation, that believes in enterprise , that believes in enterprise, that believes in enterprise, that believes in low taxation . that believes in low taxation. what is the ultimate goal of a democracy? it's to empower the

individual to make decisions on his own. we have seen that being eroded for the last 25 years. there were many, many people in this country who want to see that. and i think the tories have burnt that political capital to the point now where actually i think there is a real chance for an insurgent or something to emerge out of the existing parties which will then take the country to a new place. and if i can be part of the catalyst for that, if i can be part of it, i will do everything i can to make it happen. because this tory government, this tory party is utterly hopeless. well you're quite right about that. and but people there are people oh, let's just give it one more day, okay? it hasn't worked out for us with cameron , may johnson for us with cameron, may johnson , trust sunak whoever's next, but maybe the next, you know, maybe we can persuade these people to go back to some . this people to go back to some. this party has been utterly hollowed

out so that it's just a continuation of . new labour 1997 continuation of. new labour 1997 to 2023. and the issue here, mark, ultimately is not the party, it's the nation. the party, it's the nation. the party is hollowed out. it's got an absence of ideology. it's got no vision, it's got no direction. but they've hollowed the nation out . when they took the nation out. when they took oven the nation out. when they took over, gdp was about the nation out. when they took over, gdp was about £2 trillion a year and national debt was 820 billion. national debt now exceeds gdp, and gdp has hardly budged. these people claim to be the party that will protect the national finances , the steady national finances, the steady and strong of something like that was theresa may's mantra when she stood for election . when she stood for election. they've been the utter opposite . they've borrowed to the point where they can no longer borrow and now they're going to tax us to the point where we can no longer pay taxes. and no one anyone watching. i don't know where the cameras, but anyone watching needs to be utterly sure of one thing. we may have

bounced back in the past. sure of one thing. we may have bounced back in the past . you bounced back in the past. you cannot be certain we're going to always bounce back. so when you cast your vote at the next election, don't go for what you know is going to be a disaster. these people have taken the united kingdom to the brink of collapse . when you've got debt collapse. when you've got debt above gdp, when you've got taxation in higher than it was, higher than it's been since we were fighting the. when you've got public services that simply don't work, when you've got more of the population on benefit than ever before, when actually you can collect more on benefits now than you can on the average net wage. right. right. and that's natural. and they're importing a thousand guys a night on the southern shore because they feel that the they're not yet paying enough benefits to enough people. so it doesn't matter whether it's the immigration, whether it's the union. i mean, we mentioned earlier that basically they've

they've stuck . we're never going they've stuck. we're never going to be free of the european union because they've they've given it part of our turf. they've given it part of our turf. and i'm going to challenge lord frost here. i know he's been on the airwaves recently saying, we mustn't go into a swiss style arrangement of course we mustn't. but the deal that he negotiated already fetters great. the united kingdom , we're great. the united kingdom, we're locked into a level playing field on competition, on state aid , on employment and the aid, on employment and the environment . aid, on employment and the environment. dominique spoke so well about the problems with net zero. and i lowest before her net zero is an international treaty commitment under the trade and cooperation agreement that david frost and negotiated david frost to hold tory party is part of the problem. boris johnson promised to get brexit done. he didn't do it. they frightened of the eu . they don't frightened of the eu. they don't believe in the united kingdom . believe in the united kingdom. they don't believe in their ability to govern. they have to see things through supranational institutions means where they

get their self validation , where get their self validation, where they feel comfortable . and they feel comfortable. and that's the next i know you were touching on it earlier. i was watching the show earlier and you were talking about how these people, you know, klaus schwab and, you know, they go off to these g20 cop27. they, you know, they're the point they're all i think the point i made to nigel was they all made to nigel was that they all seem in to changeable, you know? you think to yourself, well, justin as easily be justin could just as easily be uk and rishi would be new uk pm and rishi would be new zealand pm and jacinda would be belgian p m jacinda trudeau which i thought was so pretty and they, they seem like a class apart and they could and it's almost like they're playing poker to say which country they get to represent . how poker to say which country they get to represent. how did it come to this? i don't know. but this was the point i was going to make is it's completely they've turned 180 degrees on their obligation because their obugafion their obligation because their obligation is to the british

people. it's the british people that elected them to govern the united kingdom. right. we didn't elect them to make a policy based on what's good for canada, what's good for the us, what's good for the globe. as they see it, we didn't well elected and it's not even as rational as that. it's basically they they all get together at sharm el—sheikh and decide that sea levels in the maldives in the next century are more important than their starving, freezing citizens on on this little island . it's almost as if that's island. it's almost as if that's too boring for them to get their heads around . it's awful. and we heads around. it's awful. and we it's absolutely high time. and i think the british people want it. it's high time to have a government which actually puts british national interests first that understand it's the electorate to whom they have their obligation and not to the 620 their obligation and not to the g20 or the g7 or 27 or the wef or the world bank or the imf or the ifc or the oecd. and it's the ifc or the oecd. and it's the united kingdom that matters

. and this, i think this next election is going to be a very, very interesting one to watch. you heard what he said here. it's the united kingdom that matters . how about that? are you matters. how about that? are you enjoying this weird post democratic error so far ? well, democratic error so far? well, you're going to have to do it. you're not going to get out of it by voting for one of these two main parties in the next election. we need we need something. it is true. it's pathetic . this that's we it's pathetic. this that's we it's called responsible government in the british empire , nova scotia the british empire, nova scotia , 1848. the idea is that the government is its cold, responsible government because the government is responsible to the government is responsible to the people . and it's worth the people. and it's worth remembering that. thank you very much. thank you very much. and let's stamp it out. what are we go to? nick says, why is there now a media blackout over zelenskyy firing missiles at a

nato country which killed two people? this is a reference to this raid in poland that everybody said was putin. putin has gone crazy. he's firing off missiles at the poles . poor missiles at the poles. poor poush missiles at the poles. poor polish farming community , two polish farming community, two people dead. and it turns out to be just how it turned out to be. oh, you know how these things go. it'sjust oh, you know how these things go. it's just an access. oh, you know how these things go. it'sjust an access. it's go. it's just an access. it's not actually a media blackout there. there's sort of indifferent to dead poles. it's kind of faintly weird and creepy that all says how long before the government starts taxing people and businesses . at 100% people and businesses. at 100% of income? how will then then find a way to raise it? i wouldn't be raise it to 110. you know, after listening to the chancellor of the exchequer last thursday, conservative charge. so i could easily see him standing up in the house saying that the solution to everything is to tax people at 132. it'll work out great. let us go to the one and only dan wootton. what you got, dan oxenham it is

interesting that listening to you talking about our , our main you talking about our, our main parties both going down the same path, actually one of the cabinet ministers is who was under liz truss very briefly, of course . right, which i awarded course. right, which i awarded is going to be here for his first interview. he was the environment secretary under truss. but i'm fascinated to know are libertarian policies now within the conservative party dead? so it will be his first interview since leaving the cabinet and i'm very interested to see what he has to say. yeah is i'm not sure. i think everything's a bit dead in that party. i'm not sure what it's going to be. that's all coming up with dan wootton, the best 2 hours in a late night telly. it's all right here on gb news. stay safe . stay .

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