good afternoon, wonderful people. you're with patrick christys on gb news. coming up, net migration to the uk has

climbed to record half a million. what happened to those tens of thousands? i met grinch met the government to discuss strike action christmas. but i want to know would there be more or less strike action under a labour government and gp's? they're at risk of being named down shamed if they don't prioritise patients face to face allowed to go out today. but of course we start with the all time record levels of immigration. migration immigration. net migration topped half a million. what happened to those tens of thousands? the rise is largely due to welcoming more than 144,000 ukrainian refugees . of 144,000 ukrainian refugees. of course, 22,000 people from afghanistan . well, but we add to afghanistan. well, but we add to that, don't we, to the asylum applications, including arriving in small boats over the channel they're reaching 73,000 as well. but can we manage with such large coming into the uk and, what's the main driving force ? what's the main driving force? why do we put all of these people? also this hour, the rmt general says the transport secretary has agreed to write to it to explain how he sees a

resolution between union and rail operators zimet, the government ahead of yet more strikes this month. we'll bring you a moody mick lynch is thought to ask would that be fewer strikes under a labour government and yes is time to name and shame gp's who don't meet their patients face to face. oh i think so. let me know your thoughts really big ones for you to go out today. you wonderful people get those emails coming in. we'll be running these throughout the show. number one. oh, you happy with migration? half with that migration? about half 1,000,002. name and 1,000,002. should we name and shame those gp's we don't see patients face, but for patients face to face, but for that if patients face to face, but for thatifis patients face to face, but for that if is he likes headlines. get it's 3:02 on rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom the number of migrants reaching the uk hit its highest level since second world war. the data the office for national statistics 504,000 more people moved to the uk than left in the year to june. it beats

the previous highest record of 390,020 15. the us says the sharp rise has driven by unprecedented events including the war in ukraine and the end of covid restrictions. downing street says the prime minister is committed to bringing overall down. but the shadow home secretary says the government is failing on all fronts. today's figures show is that the conservative lives have completely mismanaged both the asylum and the immigration systems. so you've got 98% of small boat cases still haven't been decided. and at the same time there's been an 80% increase in work visas because the government is failing to tackle the skills and some of the labour in the economy while border control expert henry bolton told gb news. says an additional strain on communities with no increase in services to match . we've got mps from across match. we've got mps from across the and it's sort of beyond one

party here saying look what is happening here with our local areas are being now flooded with people on hotels being taken oven people on hotels being taken over. we have no no idea how long this is going to go on and noidea long this is going to go on and no idea what you're going to do about it. there is no plan and that's the problem . the review that's the problem. the review into the death of a five year old boy in wales says . there are old boy in wales says. there are systemic issues in safeguarding children . it found logan mwangi children. it found logan mwangi who died in july last year was failed by authorities didn't report the injuries he'd suffered in the months before his death. the chair of the safeguarding board that dealt with his case taken full responsibility and apologised. logan's mother, stepfather and step brother given life sentences for his murder earlier this year year. 120 people have been arrested in. the uk's biggest ever fraud . the global biggest ever fraud. the global operation brought a website which helped criminals scam thousands of victims out of

millions of pounds. the site generated a spoof phone number, which made it look as if calls were being made from banks tax offices and other official bodies . around 70,000 potential bodies. around 70,000 potential victims will now be sent a text message asking them to contact police . the rmt has asked the police. the rmt has asked the government for help in resolving its dispute with train companies. the union's general secretary mick lynch been holding talks with the transport after announcing a fresh round strikes over the festive period . he described the meeting with more copper as positive , but he more copper as positive, but he hasn't ruled out further industry action. he wants the government act as a facilitator, setting in writing. what authority train operators have . authority train operators have. we've got a dispute here with employers who are not allowed to negotiate . he's got to clarify negotiate. he's got to clarify that in writing us and perhaps to them . and that's his role. he to them. and that's his role. he is the facilitator as he's now calling himself. so got to show us what that actually means some

mechanics of how is going to progress and some timelines of how going to progress the discussions . meanwhile teachers discussions. meanwhile teachers scotland are staging their first national strike in almost 40 years. thousands staff have been demonstrating calling for a 10% pay demonstrating calling for a 10% pay rise. members of the educational institute of scotland are of more industrial action. if their demands aren't met. good morning. support your staff. good morning . meanwhile, staff. good morning. meanwhile, around 70,000 university and college union have launched a two day strike on plan to walk out again on november 30th. the union says lecturers and other academic staff suffered a decade of below pay rises . and flood of below pay rises. and flood warnings have been issued and transport are expected. a strong winds and heavy rain hit uk. the met office has put out a yellow wind warning for wales from 7 pm. until midnight, similar alerts are currently in place

across southern and northwest england. when it could reach up to 65 miles per hour, especially on the coast with some areas at risk of power cuts . this is risk of power cuts. this is giving ease will bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to that. patrick welcome back. now, shocking new net migration figures, more than half million people last year alone came to this country. according to the home office, point 1 million arrived, 560,000 left. gbagbo you've got a record net migration call 504 k previous record . was 390,000 previous record. was 390,000 sets in 2015, which was of course, before . so a few course, before. so a few important points. course, before. so a few important points . this there has important points. this there has been an increase because we no longer have covid restrictions large numbers of afghan and ukrainian have also bumped up those numbers. but this is

supposed to be brexit. britain isn't saying what we supposed to be in control of our borders. we have a government committed to getting those numbers into the tens questions me tens thousands. big questions me here are where do put all of these people where they live, where the kids go to school? what impact have on what impact does all have on pubuc what impact does all have on public services and it make public services and does it make it easier bring more it easier to bring more relatives your views on all relatives over your views on all of these record numbers? gb use our gbnews.uk no surprise , we're our gbnews.uk no surprise, we're going to be covering this throughout the course of the show in all its different show in all of its different guises. but here is what the shadow secretary say shadow home secretary to say about the asylum system. i think the concern is a completely mismanaged the system. they have failed to crack down on the criminal gangs are making huge profits from putting lives at risk and they've also allowed huge backlog to grow in the asylum system because decision making has collapsed and so we've got the shocking . where we've got the shocking. where 98% of last year a small boat asylum claims still haven't been

decided . they've got to get decided. they've got to get a grip of the system. we've set out a five point plan, including taking action on some of those criminal gangs that would, in order to turn things round . order to turn things round. okay, people. so record levels of legal immigration, record of illegal immigration, joining to discuss all of this is our very home insecurity editor. mark, why ? mark, the numbers here are why? mark, the numbers here are pretty stark. yes, they and especially when you consider that half a million people is effectively population of a city like bradford or indeed liverpool, whichever one of you you want to use . but then the you want to use. but then the infrastructure needs clearly be put in place right across country to deal with that very significant number of people that come in, you need wraparound services. the local authorities are providing. where are they going to be housed, where are they going to be, educate, health care needs, social services, all of the above. social services, all of the above . let's drill down, patrick above. let's drill down, patrick into sort of these figures that

you mentioned, your introduction. so number the net migration is 504,000. who came the year to june? now that's because 1.1 million came five and 6000 left. it's always a significant number will leave in any but stagger . significant number will leave in any but stagger. number significant number will leave in any but stagger . number they've any but stagger. number they've stayed 504,000 now that smashes the previous record which was 390 those and a net migration in 2015 and in fact it's biggest net migration number since the second world war wow that's how significant it is and it's a number of factors that have dnven number of factors that have driven the numbers . 476,000 driven the numbers. 476,000 student visa applications have been received in the 24 months to september 2020 . to the 76,000

to september 2020. to the 76,000 student visa applications in the 24 months, september 2022. a little bit later on, as we carry on with all of this, i'm going to be discussing what does that really mean? does it make more likely put and relatives likely to stay put and relatives over but. yeah, carry on and in those student visa numbers the vast majority of the applications are coming from the indian subcontinent and nigeria and finally on these figures also drive the surge in net migration war the resettlement program for the likes of the ukrainians 200,000 ukrainians were granted visas in year to september as well and of we know tens of thousands from afghanistan and also from hong kong have been accepted as well. yes and it's important the difference in those things is the variety in those figures, i

think every single person be readily accepting of the idea. right. okay. it was 200,000 ukrainians x amount from afghanistan, etc, etc, etc. still, of course, large numbers from , other countries are from, other countries are student visas are interesting as well. as i've said throughout the course of this, i'll get your views coming in. gbp is a gbnews.uk. we're going to be talking about the various different this , different elements to this, whether this makes it whether or not this makes it more for people to bring more likely for people to bring their families the impacts their families over the impacts she's public she's going to have public services shortly services and very shortly going to debate on this, to have a big debate on this, which essentially can britain which is essentially can britain with but mark with these numbers. but mark it's just the legal stuff as it's not just the legal stuff as it's not just the legal stuff as it is the illegal stuff as well. yes got some details really about knew in the sense about what we knew in the sense of so 42,040 figures were a couple of months of date. we know more than 2000 people have crossed the english channel in small boats. so this year and the us, the single biggest nafion the us, the single biggest nation represented on these small boats is albania . and of small boats is albania. and of course the majority of those on

the small boats, the majority of those go to claim asylum there are we've been told , 2000 are we've been told, 2000 applications for asylum . we applications for asylum. we received up to 2022 . now 13,650 received up to 2022. now 13,650 of those asylum applications were from albanians. of those asylum applications were from albanians . now, were from albanians. now, interestingly told that 90% of all being in many when you drill down into the figure albanian men are denied side asylum. so 10% are granted asylum . which 10% are granted asylum. which again, begs the question if that's the case, why are they not very swiftly removed this country and sent back to albania one of the reasons patrick, is that they are going on to claim in many instances that , they are in many instances that, they are victims of trafficking that modern slaves. and that sets a tandem investigation into whether they have been

trafficked and the for determining whether someone is a modern slave is a lot lower and. so in most cases those claim that they've been trafficked simply granted leave to remain. yeah 100. i think they begs a lot of , very stark questions. lot of, very stark questions. also, 72,000 roughly. anyway, i saw them applications in not year 13.6 thousand from albanians of those if you drill down 90% of albanian men as just heard, are not granted asylum. but then they go on to claim this slavery thing. and you can see . why? it's easy for people see. why? it's easy for people to get the impression at least maybe with that for the taking the potentially is easy to game the potentially is easy to game the system a little bit but mark thank you very much for bringing us all those facts and figures we to drill down into that really get lowdown because really and get lowdown because we're of we're using this as bit of a launch throughout, a large launch pad throughout, a large chunk our show because chunk of our show because there's so many different facets for this. i'm very keen for this. and i'm very keen thank you by way about my thank you by the way about my call go editor call home and go to the editor about i'm very keen about why. but i'm very keen this gentleman at home to get your views this

gbviews@gbnews.uk loads gbviews@gbnews.uk because loads of we've of different elements we've got the side things numbers the legal side of things numbers that topping the that topping half a million the highest ever record important highest ever on record important note those figures have note that those figures have been likes of been driven up by the likes of 200,000 ukrainians seeking refuge over of course, and the afghan population as well and also post covid so few travel restrictions , you would expect restrictions, you would expect to see a bump. but what a mighty fine bump that has been. let me put it that way, because it's a huge number. and the questions there include things like where do we put milk in our public do we put the milk in our public services cope? a bit too services cope? is it a bit too much? is it a bit too fast, but we have just packed of those we have just packed all of those numbers very. why numbers with our very. omar why and apparently our and yes. rishi apparently our prime minister does say that he wants bring those numbers wants to bring those numbers down, put a time down, but he hasn't put a time frame this goal indeed frame on this goal or indeed a number. what's the point at number. but what's the point at this really, of this stage really, tens of thousand seems way up, doesn't it the nhs schools and it with the nhs schools and housing strained say housing already strained to say the all communities the least can. all communities actually this actually cope with this record influx why starting influx and that's why starting one of several different debates we're now on this we're doing right now on this topic britain cope with topic can britain cope with these joining now is these numbers. joining me now is head immigration

head of demography immigration and integration at policy exchange david goodhart and councillor danny brooks. thank you very much . councillor danny brooks. thank you very much. i will councillor danny brooks. thank you very much . i will start with you very much. i will start with you, david. it is interesting just reading your full job title. how did demography, immigration and integration let's just start with the demography element of this because post—brexit, i think lot of people wrongly obviously thought , oh, of people wrongly obviously thought, oh, well, you of people wrongly obviously thought , oh, well, you know, thought, oh, well, you know, we're going to see lower immigration and potentially fewer people, shall i say. i think minorities. but actually that's not the case. it no . in that's not the case. it no. in the short term, immigration has risen quite sharply mean european immigration has. so to that extent you could say the ending of free movement is starting to have an effect but that's been obviously more than compensated for by the big increase non eu immigration. but i do think it is worth out that quite lot of this will be one

off. i mean quite lot of this particularly the big so the two really big surges of students and refugees various kinds of refugees so both of those probably not going to be repeated . the student thing is repeated. the student thing is partly kind of post covid catch up also a huge amount of this immigration is short term which is which is well know me and various other people who look at immigration have always been arguing we should have much more on short term immigration and making it harder for people to get permanent settlement to become citizens . yeah we want to become citizens. yeah we want to remain an open country there are legitimate economic requirements for immigration but you know and most work migrants that are coming all student migrants most work migrants or on or on visas

they go home after a period there's a lot i'm just i'm just to pause the idea because i want to pause the idea because i want to return to some that stuff as as we drill further down i'm going to throw it over now. councillor danny brooks from skegness town council because i want to your take on frankly want to get your take on frankly why do we put all these people and, resources that local and, the resources that local councils having deal councils now having to deal with. one thing talking with. this is one thing talking about demography all about the demography of it all and their makeup all of and their ethnic makeup all of that stuff but actually when it comes to the numbers we comes to the sheer numbers we are can britain cope? can are asking can britain cope? can your council cope this your council cope with this level migration? i don't level of net migration? i don't think we cope with it . if you think we cope with it. if you ask any resident of skegness now if they've got a dentist , i if they've got a dentist, i would say probably 50% haven't and can't get dental appointment is two weeks now to wait for a doctor's appointment at the hospitals . i'm not sure on the hospitals. i'm not sure on the waiting list , hospitals. i'm not sure on the waiting list, but can we cope? i don't think can cope now . so don't think can cope now. so you're already public services stretched because that's a big

thing for a lot of people whether it's temporary or otherwise. the fact that at least for a period of time, people will be struggling. in your danny do basic your view danny to do basic things , get a health check—up, things, get a health check—up, get the social housing ladder if you want to call it that , for you want to call it that, for definite . i think the social definite. i think the social housing waiting list in skegness is probably ten years long. so you add to that, you where to our residents, their children get to get anywhere to live and doctors are in short right a dentist is crazy . yeah, dentist is crazy. yeah, absolutely. and it's important , absolutely. and it's important, you know, and it is very important, especially when it comes to these specific figures that they been massively that they have been massively exacerbated by people that we've openly absolutely 100% thrown our open . ukrainian our doors open. ukrainian population, the afghan population, the afghan population, many people thinking that we quite rightly have a duty to , those people. but duty to, those people. but david, another element of your fantastic job title by the way is integration into policy exchange and some people are

concerned we're moving too fast too quickly these numbers and there isn't enough taking place we hear the figures that oh well a city the size of bradford might be coming every year. bradford is a good example because that is a city a lot of people wonder whether or not integrate has worked . yeah, i integrate has worked. yeah, i think these a perfectly good in questions i mean obviously some groups of people are easier .to integrate than others. you know you're importing know doctors from slovenia you know it's a it's a different kettle of fish from people coming a very different kind of culture and i mean the i mean one of the one of the ways i think in which, you know, refugee migration and as we were saying earlier, i mean, a peculiarly large bulk of it in this year and much of it to be fair, as it were is kind

of legitimate refugee know it's in a sense kind of inverted commas popular refugee the ukraine the hong kong the afghans from the crisis and 21 a relatively proportion it is actually the chairman reasonably you know find you know very imposing but sponsor i think he's the answer i mean get round the integration problem when it comes to refugees either over a high proportion of are in a normal refugee intake is done through you know families and organisations sponsoring people then that brings with it a kind of automatic integration into british society . okay. and british society. okay. and danny, i'll throw at you because something again that we're going to be talking about a bit later on is the fact that we do now have or otherwise record have anomaly or otherwise record levels of legal and illegal levels of both legal and illegal immigration into this country. and danny on that issue, you are

struggling to cope, aren't you, when it comes to things like housing , channel, migrants housing, channel, migrants definitely . i housing, channel, migrants definitely. i mean, housing, channel, migrants definitely . i mean, ten months definitely. i mean, ten months ago, where we've got some asylum seekers in, three of our hotels , we were told that it be no more and they're only here three months. so ten months later they're still here and they've now opened three more hotels, two or three more hotels over . two or three more hotels over. so that's six now. 3% of the population is increased by we can't things we haven't got the infrastructure for it so the some refugees you've got to help and so but i just think a lot of the economic migrants okay look both of you thank very much and good way to kick off one of the many different offshoots to all of these figures that we can take. thank you very much. as head of demography, immigration integration at policy exchange, david good goodhart and councillor brooks from councillor danny brooks from skegness council. so we've skegness town council. so we've taken couple the boxes that if

taken a couple the boxes that if you just joining us, there's you are just joining us, there's record net migration record figures of net migration topped million. it is the topped half a million. it is the highest that's why it's highest ever and that's why it's a if you break that a record. and if you break that down well, you end up with down as well, you end up with huge numbers levels of huge numbers record levels of illegal immigration once more. again some of the boxes that we've ticked there by integration. are we moving too fast too far when it comes to fast, too far when it comes to this stuff, is it going to be bad for society or cohesion? we're talking about, we're also talking about, frankly well whether or not frankly as well whether or not local councils who are the local town councils who are the coalface of all of this. can cope. so what we're doing when it comes public services, it comes to public services, huge amounts , different huge amounts, different offshoots can get on offshoots that we can get on gbviews@gbnews.uk your views coming in, emails are already flying thick and fast, as one would but you are. we would imagine. but you are. we patrick christys in coming up nicholas sturgeon says westminster politicians are blocking second independence blocking the second independence referendum because that was scared the outcome might scared of what the outcome might be. i want to drill down some of the language of vitriol has been like there were protests that last night scottish nasty last night it the scottish nasty party. i'll also be looking at a strike because what would be the

case under a labour government labour have been remarkably quiet on the strike action. the rmt general secretary mick grange lynch met the government earlier claiming earlier this afternoon, claiming discussions . what discussions were positive. what will that really oh will all of that really mean? oh and should name and shame and should we name and shame gp's who refuse to see patients to face? i'll be back in the tick .

yes. loads of people getting in touch very quickly about some of the big issues that were talked about today. record levels of net migration, the resources issue, the integration issue. what it mean going forward what will it mean going forward ? are just some of the ? these are just some of the topics through my inbox topics floating through my inbox at gbp is gb news at the moment. gbp is a gb news uk, but we're going of the uk, but we're going north of the border slightly. nicholas sturgeon has that. politicians in westminster blocking in westminster are blocking demands a second scottish demands for a second scottish independence referendum . they independence referendum. they fear outcome. i think it

fear the outcome. i think it possibly should be the scots if the outcome of that we the the outcome of that we got the scottish first minister was speaking after the speaking the day after the supreme scottish supreme ruled the scottish parliament have the parliament does not have the power legislate for vote on power to legislate for vote on independence without the agreements. well, agreements. westminster. well, joining news joining me now is gb news etruscan. reporter olivia who joining me now is gb news etru upn. reporter olivia who joining me now is gb news etru up north orter olivia who joining me now is gb news etru up north forzr olivia who joining me now is gb news etru up north for us)livia who joining me now is gb news etru up north for us yesterday . was up north for us yesterday. it's now defrosted. olivia i'm quite concerned really about well, the level of vitriol that might been laid out last night, various different protest . various different protest. nicholas facing nicholas sturgeon was facing questions on today, she? questions on today, wasn't she? she was facing questions. what she seems have decided to do is turn the next election into a de facto referendum because . she facto referendum because. she basically has no other legal way of a referendum, which would be international only recognised . international only recognised. this results sound and is bad for her but actually might be quite for her because what the uk government actually wanted to win the case. they just wanted the supreme court to throw out the supreme court to throw out the case altogether . the supreme the case altogether. the supreme court could have decides that the case wasn't in its remit at all, which would have meant that

nicholas sturgeon has nicholas sturgeon just has a complete roadblock instead . the complete roadblock instead. the uk won means that uk government has won means that nicholas sturgeon claim she nicholas sturgeon can claim she is that . westminster has is doing that. westminster has deliberately put a sort of constitutional roadblock in the way of scottish democracy and she's ever conflated the issues independence and democracy saying that anyone who wants a healthy scottish democracy now must vote for independence. and she's going to do that vote through this a general election mechanism . i mean, the problem mechanism. i mean, the problem with that is , all scots that with that is, all scots that concerned about independence over and everything else. well, this is it isn't say well yeah and unionist politician i think probably not think that scots care about the state of the nhs in scotland which as we know and is in a mess drug deaths, ferries issues still rumbling on and won't accept single general election. well, no, because don't think anyone should ehhen don't think anyone should either. really because. it's the closing of the day. it's a general election, really. but when it comes to the kind language has been used, nicholas sturgeon has very often faced

allegations of stoking pseudo allegations of stoking up pseudo xenophobic issues when it comes to the anti—english sentiments and i can't help but be concerned . that's what we're concerned. that's what we're going to see more of now. there were protests yesterday . we were protests yesterday. we actually had quite a lot of nastiness of a few of our guests that were yesterday live air. that were in yesterday live air. we tried to apologise for rather lot. are we going to see little bit more of an us in there mentality and a bit more anger and frankly sturgeon doing and frankly if sturgeon doing anything that? well, anything to stoke that? well, i was in edinburgh yesterday, as you mentioned , there was real you mentioned, there was real anger outside holyrood on the protest were even earlier on in the day getting very heated and it seems to be getting worse. i mean that said, i think that the scottish nationalists online perhaps the most vocal group of scottish yes we here in london often see them over above any other sort of scottish nationalists around because i think most of them feel that angry or or anything when they're violent . but yes, it they're violent. but yes, it definitely does feel as though

the tensions heating up and. nicholas could be argued , nicholas could be argued, doesn't seem to want to do that about it. yes, exactly. well, we're going to do a little of a pivot now and have you, because i just have true in my ear, which is bit of breaking because in past the home in the past few the home secretary suella braverman has reacted record net reacted to these record net migration . this is a bit of migration. this is a bit of breaking news . you to strap breaking news. you to strap yourselves in. and yourselves in. ladies and gentlemen for the gentlemen let's read it for the first together. so first time together. so the president public president says the public rightly to control rightly expect us to control borders and remain committed borders and we remain committed to reducing net migration over time . line with our manifesto time. line with our manifesto commitment, we must ensure have a sustainable, balanced and controlled approach, which is why we continue to keep our immigration under. she immigration policies under. she continues. my priority remains tackling the rise in dangerous and illegal crossings and stopping the abuse of our system . it is vital we restore public and take back control of our borders. as i said, that has just drop now all home secretary suella braverman a couple things immediately stand to that immediately stand out to me that yes, when resigned from the yes, when she resigned from the trust there of

trust government, there was, of course, things about course, all those things about what slipping emails what she said, slipping emails to people. but to the wrong people. but realistically underlining was supposed about government supposed to be about government being ice holds with liz truss in mass migration policies using that to help go for growth. we are in potentially quite similar situation when it comes jeremy hunt and rishi sunak now these figures have just dropped record levels of half a million of net migration . the uk and if you migration. the uk and if you really best place talk about this sort of problem on a bit of a sticky wicket when she comes this record levels of illegal immigration record levels of net migration. yeah it's very difficult brexiteers in difficult for brexiteers in government during that government because during that 2016 referendum there was sort of two different types of brexiteers there the sort brexiteers there were the sort of liberal metropolitan tends to be brexiteers who wanted to see brexit happen in order to get back control of our borders. but they didn't necessarily to see net migration go down, they just britain to be allowed to say who came in and who didn't then . came in and who didn't then. there was the all the great brexiteers which, it must be

said, was a much larger group who wanted to see brexit, wanted see immigration coming down and thought was the best thought the brexit was the best mechanism the mechanism to do that. but the kind brexit we've got kind of brexit we've got actually these sort of actually with these sort of australia plenty of australia style allows plenty of immigrants to come in. it just immigrants to come in. it just immigrants from countries. so it is quite difficult for brexiteers to say that they that they have to live got what they said exactly that look said exactly that olivia. look thank live europe thank you very much live europe with political correspondent with our political correspondent reacting to that breaking news that braverman that suella braverman basically said we've said look despite the fact we've got levels of net got record levels of net migration, committed migration, we remain committed to and sorting to bringing not down and sorting out in the out what's going on in the channel quick question. channel very quick question. she's right. i must she's almost right. i must stress me now. do you believe it? believe that this it? do you believe that this government cares government actually really cares about bringing down both net migration, immigration, migration, illegal immigration, those stop will get those figures to stop will get stuck those again shortly. those figures to stop will get stuccomingiose again shortly. those figures to stop will get stuccoming up, again shortly. those figures to stop will get stuccoming up, i'veiin shortly. those figures to stop will get stuccoming up, i've got hortly. those figures to stop will get stuccoming up, i've got artly. those figures to stop will get stuccoming up, i've got a box but coming up, i've got a box office to head for you because we're talking about rail that are for christmas and, are planned for christmas and, the well, university the new year. well, university lecturers, on picket lecturers, they're on the picket line, although they not line, although one of they not really postal are now really even postal are now refusing for refusing to work in time for black friday. but i want to know whether or not things be better

or worse under the labour party. we've got tory mp, we've got former labour mp. it's all going to i'll see after the news . it to kick. i'll see after the news. it rhiannon in the gb newsroom. the home secretary says she's committed to reducing levels of migration that is the number entering the uk has hit its highest levels since the second world war. the data from office for national statistics shows 504,000 more people moved to the uk left in the year to june it beats the previous record of 390,020 15. the un says the sharp rise has been driven by unimpressive rented events, including the war in ukraine and the end of covid restrictions . the end of covid restrictions. the home secretary suella braverman said she was committed to reducing over time a report . to reducing over time a report. the death of a five year old boy has found what he believes are systemic issues and safe guarding children. it found logan , who died in july last

logan, who died in july last yean logan, who died in july last year, was failed by authorities , didn't report the injuries he suffered in the months before his death the chair of the safeguarding board dealt with his case has taken full responsibility and apologised . responsibility and apologised. logan's mother, step father and, step brother were given life sentences for his murder earlier this year . sentences for his murder earlier this year. 120 people have been arrested in the uk's biggest ever fraud sting . the global ever fraud sting. the global operation brought down a website , helped criminals scam thousands victims out of millions of pounds. the site generated a spoof phone number, which made it look as if calls were being from banks, tax offices and other official bodies. around thousand potential victims now be sent a text message asking to contact police . the rmt has asked the police. the rmt has asked the for help in resolving dispute with train companies. the union's general secretary, mick lynch , been holding talks with lynch, been holding talks with the transport secretary after announcing a fresh round strikes over the festive period . he over the festive period. he described the meeting with mark as positive and says he's now seeking reassurance in writing .

seeking reassurance in writing. and teachers across scotland staging first national strike in almost 40 years. thousands of staff demonstrating, calling for a 10% pay rise. members of the educational institute of scotland warning of more industrial action if demands are met. tv online frost radio. this is gb news. it's back to patrick now . now. let' s now. let's crock straight on, because the main players in this rail dispute that is threatening to disrupt christmas and all of our wonderful christmas plans met today trying to thrash out a deal mick grinch lynch said the dialogue had at least got started. he also warned though that a resolution to the dispute with rail operators was still some way off . we're hearing some way off. we're hearing whispers talks of some whispers anyway talks of some kind general strike picket kind of general strike picket lines mounted schools, lines mounted outside schools, universities and the royal mail

as . well, they're all getting as. well, they're all getting involved, but i to know whether or things will be better or or not things will be better or worse under a labour government and a little bit to find out what the tories actually do to stop this. conservative mp greg smith me right now. he's a member of the transport select committee. great have committee. greg, great to have you on show. let's you on the show. right. let's start main as labour start with the main as labour labour have very, very quiet on this. it because they know this. is it because they know that isn't mass public that there isn't mass public support and support for strike action and the that they are in the the fact that they are in the back pockets of the unions or is that bit fair? no, that a bit of a fair? no, i don't think that's unfair at all. knows how close the labour party to the trade union movement has been totally noticeable in the noticeable was brought up in the chamber. commons earlier chamber. the commons earlier they're not condemning they're still not condemning these strikes they're not condemning strikes that are going absolutely hammer going to absolutely hammer retailers hospitality trade retailers the hospitality trade in the month of december a month where a lot of these businesses taken disproportionately high amount annual takings is amount of annual takings is going to hammer in my constituency wanting to get to school it's going to harm the people getting to their medical

appointments. the labour have just sort of stood back , let just sort of stood back, let their union friends get on with these strikes. i do . to ask you these strikes. i do. to ask you are a member of the transport committee. i'm assuming you will be privy to more than i am. i have asked different union several times on this channel what is it that they actually want, what it that mick lynch is asking for because we can't have mass public support for something if we don't know exactly what is . do you exactly what it is. do you know what lynch, demands are what mick lynch, his demands are ? the demands are between the unions and the rail operating companies . as i understand it, companies. as i understand it, the demands way above inflation pay the demands way above inflation pay increases along with demands for things like ticket offices , for things like ticket offices, stay open for modernisations of the railway that are essential to make it a functional system of transport to be . we need of transport to be. we need those modernised stations. we need to address the that after the pandemic rail is a

fundamentally different thing. people aren't commuting every single day lots of still work from home lots of people have switched to railways more for leisure travel and that has an impact that has impact on ticket revenues because if you're not selling those peak early morning tickets instead of middle of the and weekend tickets, the revenues aren't coming in and it just has to be a bit of reality here everyone wants a huge pay rise right if the money's not there and the of course selling there and the of course selling the tickets to it and technology gets better which doesn't necessarily render jobs obsolete , but maybe means that the numbers of that could be reduced . the taxpayer, in my view anyway, shouldn't made to just fork just to give people fork out just to give people token job, were, but i've token job, as it were, but i've got ask you all, the tories got to ask you all, the tories ready to face a general strike because things are potentially heading that way and not just take a bottle we absolutely to face down a general strike. everyone knows the economy is

fragile and if everybody on strike, it's just going to be a massive act of self—harm because when the railways go on strike, that massively hits the overall economy. shops, hospitality . you economy. shops, hospitality. you know, there have been hundreds of millions of pounds, if not into the billions of pounds of losses predicted from the december rail strikes. and if you hammer down the economy whether you're in railways or whether you're in railways or whether you're in other public or it is that you do. or whatever it is that you do. you're just going damage the economy. and i'm afraid your own job prospects. greg, thank you very much. thank you very much for making the time for us as well. conservative greg is a well. conservative mp greg is a member the transport select member of the transport select committee. i i'm going to committee. wow, i i'm going to speak in a few moments to denis macshane, a former labour macshane, who's a former labour mp minister for europe, on this same issue , i wanted to drill same issue, i wanted to drill down as to whether or not, things would worse things actually would be worse under government than under a labour government than they now the tories, they are now under the tories, because labour in the back pockets of , the unions. but pockets of, the unions. but first let's hear from mick lynch from the rmt as spoke after his

meeting with the transport secretary. and that was last couple of hours, got us here from i would say is a positive meeting the sense that we've got rid of the bellicose nonsense we used to had from grant shapps and his cohorts. it is era and we're now starting to a dialogue so what we're hoping for and what mr. harper is committed is giving us an outcome from this meeting, which will be a letter to me and we've said is no good having these warm words we've heard from his predecessor anne—marie trevelyan but nothing actually happened . so we want to actually happened. so we want to sit down in writing what he's going to do about the mechanic of how a will be facilitated . of how a will be facilitated. yes, well, so far government estimates that national rail strikes have cost the country half a pounds. and this is a huge issue for allies and gentlemen, because these strikes do cost massive money, transport secretary mark harper was optimistic after today's productive talks . well, look,

productive talks. well, look, i you know, you just referred there to what mr. lynch said after the meeting. he and i both agree that this a productive meeting was the you know, it was the first one that we've had. think it struck the right tone. i think there was a shared agreement in the meeting. we both want to thriving railway both want to a thriving railway thatis both want to a thriving railway that is sustainable for the future that serves passengers that serves country and also provides good, well—paid jobs for the people that he represents. so i think there's a lot of shared agreement there, but we need to have the two sides, the trade unions and the employers sit down and agree on the detail so that we can bring this dispute to an end. and i think where we both have a shared interest . yes. well was, shared interest. yes. well was, of course, transport secretary mark harper there. he sounded like he was talking through a potato. let's speak now to denis macshane , a former labour mp and macshane, a former labour mp and a for europe. denis, thank you very much. i've got to put this to say, well, you like to people say, well, you like the past things would have been

much better when it comes to strike action. i'm reading here affiliated an annual affiliated unions buy an annual fee party. they fee to the labour party. they like 13 of the 39 members of labour's national executive committee. 50% of delegates committee. 50% of the delegates to labour party conference. to the labour party conference. the is the the labour party is in the unions pockets. not in the unions pockets. well, not in the case of , mick lynch, he case of, mick lynch, because he to be here of gb news because he took his union out of the laboun took his union out of the labour. why? because he is very strongly anti—euro . and he says strongly anti—euro. and he says number one, brexit . so he ought number one, brexit. so he ought to be well you'll find he is a big star for mike lynch who lost in all of that. i i'm just speaking because 1970s i was the youngest president of the n.u.j the journalists union. and we took the bbc journalists out and strike no here you do that again. no i hope not. it was terrible to see it there. but you see people like day and all those conservatives. there were so angry about rising cost of living . and what's forgotten is living. and what's forgotten is all during the summer had grant shappsi all during the summer had grant shapps i mean, he really was a bit of a kind of blah blah

babble. supposedly mark harper's a much more intelligent minister , say to the railway, you, you railway company bosses say the workers must be allowed to rip together. they must be told to rebuild . who? lynch britain. rebuild. who? lynch britain. she's just free them. it's a margaret thatcher secret ballot. and she the one to impose. this is rightly so. he blaming foundation for today's strikes. but how are you going to go against a ballot? you know , 80 against a ballot? you know, 80 90% are blessed . the great 90% are blessed. the great blessed margaret thatcher are these men and lynch workers. gmb the rmt workers are , not the the rmt workers are, not the elites, not the well—paid people . they're the cleaners , to be . they're the cleaners, to be fair. well, he's quite well paid , but but he's members aren't so you going to say to them, you've got no right, go strike, go live in russia ? well, what are they in russia? well, what are they actually paid , you know. well, i actually paid, you know. well, i could you could look it up well , i have. i covered gb news of about a month he's coming quick

because they write go. so someone else will give you this before. never let it go also. so starting salary. certainly basic cleaning of a railways station would be unde r £20,000. oh. okay would be under £20,000. oh. okay well, you may have a child two or just with all of your costs going, go. i'm not for it. i there ought to be. now, this is important. no this is important. i want to get you on this because were former labour party mp and the labour party have been quite quiet on this , not been quite quiet on this, not backing it . been quite quiet on this, not backing it. i'm not been quite quiet on this, not backing it . i'm not criticising backing it. i'm not criticising it either . where should the it either. where should the labour party position itself? because if mick lynch is correct and there is mass public in favour of these strikes , then favour of these strikes, then the labour policy, the policy of the labour policy, the policy of the working man and woman should be coming out in of it. but then no, which implies to me that they know that the public don't support not not at all mean support this not not at all mean clement attlee always opposed unofficial strikes the unofficial strikes because the labour is not the party of labour party is not the party of strikes . but someone in labour party is not the party of strikes. but someone in this

strikes. but yes someone in this country has to speak the people who are seeing their cost of living disappearing fast , what living disappearing fast, what the solution is countries they frozen electricity prices 4% we've got the worst of all the freezes that's been imposed . freezes that's been imposed. sulak so he doesn't know anything about labour is still costing us 3 billion. it cost the other countries as much and as more that's what you have to do to save a nation freezing to death. that's why we're pouring money resources and arms money and resources and arms into ukraine. sorry. yes, there are numbers at times now . i are big numbers at times now. i would just look and believe me that households in paris two or three weeks ago talking to the french government about brexit my metro was on strike . i mean, my metro was on strike. i mean, there's no early cut. i mean would be rare if the french metro wasn't strike i think that is to be fair you'd have find out rare days of out one of those rare days of the year but carry on going well very simply i mean i mark very simply i mean i hope mark harper around at all harper could stand around at all that i propose some ideas but i'm out of all of that game what would ideas be because it make

lynch's demands which he's being very about. was very secretive about. it was only from tory mp smith. only that from tory mp smith. he's transport select he's on the transport select committee. he says it's his understanding mainly it actually wants increase. he's way wants pay increase. he's way inflation but essentially backdated well and the securing the fence is of jobs that the ring fence is of jobs that frankly could be obsolete by technology . if those are true technology. if those are true then those are unreasonable demands for the taxpayer so sort of give it into the second. these are all these are all companies we handed it over to the private sector the promised they would manage it well you try taking trains much this year patrick. i it's just a nightmare either in london let alone going out of london . 70% of all our out of london. 70% of all our rail companies actually are owned by european companies. so all profits go back to europe . all profits go back to europe. now, that may be the time to ask certain questions. how we organise the ownership . do you organise the ownership. do you want to nationalise the railways? i wouldn't always to see employer plays or the board of companies real partnership. i don't particularly state

bureaucrats running well before . did it ever had that because we had that because we never ever had one union for the entire industry. we still got three in three. so talk about my idea. oh intelligent labour market. oh, so there we are that look. thank you very much. great stuff. great to have you and a range of views here on gb news. never say this all completely one sided stuff and totally right. thank you very much. of course former labour mp and minister europe. what do you minister for europe. what do you make gentleman? make of that lady's gentleman? vaiews@gbnews.uk uk? do you really deep down that things will be better or worse under a labour government when it comes to strikes? well moving labour government when it comes to from s? well moving labour government when it comes to from that well moving labour government when it comes to from that because. moving labour government when it comes to from that because forget1g labour government when it comes to from that because forget the on from that because forget the 100 millilitres limit on liquids in airports, there's new technology which could see these rules straps . yes, i know i rules straps. yes, i know i thought initially why are we covering i'll tell you covering this but i'll tell you because might your stay because it might make your stay apple a bit speedier and apple well a bit speedier and a bit better. also going to bit better. we're also going to be our issue of be returning to our big issue of the these net migration the day, these net migration figures well. shocking figures as well. shocking stuff, they above a million

they are now above a million records all time . we've got records all time. we've got records all time. we've got record legal immigration. we've got record illegal immigration. do think britain can cope now? go anywhere .

rise. okay. ladies and gentlemen , as they reported that airports that be on this one could scrap 100 millilitre limit on liquids in hand luggage by 2024. thus, thanks to new new scanners, etc. but it follows a summer which saw huge queues airport security but and this is why i wanted to talk about it i thought that we couldn't have 100 really two liquids because some of them i fill them with explosives and blow us all up at 35,000 feet. but that's the case but apparently that's the case anymore. joining me now is former head counter—terrorism at the modern day major general chapman. very much. chapman. thank you very much. important why important to remember why we have massive ramp up

have this massive huge ramp up of have 911, of airport security, have 911, we the shoe we've we have the shoe bomber. we've got others well. got countless others as well. what's why? it's 2006, which in year of this which was the liquid were multiple aircraft going the uk to us and but it's worth saying that that plot was pre—empted. so one of the big changes of course is we got improved domestic security in and collection sharing. so chances it's occurring anyway of very rare that is not the driver why this is happening it's. very rare that is not the driver why this is happening it's . a why this is happening it's. a driver of technology and 3d baggage screening equipment . now baggage screening equipment. now the technology's improved. so much in various areas that what trying to get to is the position where you get rid of all paper methods of going airports and you go through essentially tunnel of truth which that you match digital security and physical identity together and gives you the biometric surveillance and the surveillance and the surveillance analytics which . surveillance analytics which. you would need to know if anyone is a bad guy or not. well, okay. i mean, the phrase a tunnel of

truth sounds rather sinister , to truth sounds rather sinister, to be honest. if you asked me i mean, my track record at airports is not particularly great. i mean, i've forgotten my passport on numerous occasions over the wrong with me one over the wrong phone with me one time well. i don't even time as well. so i don't even get the plane that also, get on the plane that i also, thanks to delights of thanks to the delights of ryanair, ended up in ryanair, have ended up in various different than originally . but when it originally planned. but when it comes to this now that what are we going to do go through we going to do people go through a do they and scans a scanner do they and it scans them flush up them and it'll flush up terrorist not so own. terrorist or not so your own. well you can do that in a sense because one of the things which is really occurred since 911, for is the no fly list. for example, is the no fly list. there were 16 people in the world on the no fly list in 2000, one. there were eight 1000 on that in in 2016. so the ability to use machine learning and artificial not is far greater than it was 20 years ago. so we are not on the world as we were then . okay. all right as we were then. okay. all right . crucially now we might seeing a reduction in queues and lovely

michelle or whatever can bring a nail varnish whether on the aeroplane and a bottle water and there won't be any thing to compromise our safety at all that should be the but of course like all these things you have to match resources to people the end of the day. and that's the crucial thing at the airports and as a bit of an aside on this have the now that terrorists are desperate to target is that now a thing of the past moved on a bit it's undoable in the uk for three real reasons. firstly security secondly airport security. and thirdly, passengers will fight against hijackers because of the example of united airways three and expert lesson. yes, again, that from major chip champion and how to give clear and concise and brief when you want a time limit. thank you very much. great stuff. former head of counter—terrorism at the day, major general chip chapman. right. moving to our right. moving on back to our main hour, a migration main this hour, a net migration to come to a record

to. the uk has come to a record half a million. yes, those figures true. the highest figures true. the highest figures since world war. lots of you've been getting in touch on this with your thoughts now i wanted to i've been asking wanted to go to i've been asking you in touch with read you to get in touch with read your emails actually. so it's nice to actually few them nice to actually a few of them out williams out gbviews@gbnews.uk williams says about the half says what about the near half a million visas? how are million student visas? how are the just out like the visas? just dished out like this? add to the economy this? do they add to the economy pivot because i've pivot point? not because i've got those a bit got to be about those a bit later on. i want to. does a student visa really make more likely end up likely that you can end up staying here in the run? does it make it more that you can bring your over well? is it your family over as well? is it just into the uk by the just entry into the uk by the backdoor that helps to massage the little pizzaz the figures a little bit? pizzaz been on. peter says the government tabs on government must tabs on immigration with our immigration numbers with our pubuc immigration numbers with our public state of public services. in a state of collapse. they allowing collapse. why are they allowing a in immigration? it a huge surge in immigration? it doesn't make sense. and peter, i spoke earlier on to a local councillor skegness. i speak to local councillors regularly and that's normally about illegal immigration about how they're struggling to with numbers struggling to with the numbers of immigration and the of illegal immigration and the amount of asylum seeker hotels

etc. but i just spoke to someone who stark warning. he who gave a stark warning. he says there's a ten year waiting list for social housing. according to him and skegness. well, you plug half a well, when you plug half a million people a year and lesbians says well we play the tape forward with what does that mean when comes to demography mean when it comes to demography it what does that for it all what does that mean for overall many overall growth? how many children do these people have? how many children go to schools in the area ? local gp surgeries in the area? local gp surgeries to dental , let alone in the area? local gp surgeries to dental, let alone housing or infrastructure is equipped for have we actually been building the infrastructure ? this i would the infrastructure? this i would argue not. it's i believe we've got one more. we time for just one more. john says . i was one more. john says. i was taughtin one more. john says. i was taught in school during the nineties seventies about population explosion . they said population explosion. they said it would be about 60 billion for the uk and that would lead to social why didn't social breakdown. why didn't politicians listen this? and politicians listen to this? and john an uncomfortable this john an uncomfortable point this but it on the last and but i'll make it on the last and guess again something we all afraid to raise here this afraid to raise here on this show i'm to be talking show and i'm going to be talking about all worried about later all you worried about later all you worried

about social breakdown all you worried, the that we're worried, the fact that we're moving fast soon it moving too fast too soon when it comes to huge numbers of people are having the to deal with are not having the to deal with them. important get them. it's important get a little bit of context with these this 500,004 thousand to be precise is exacerbated by the fact that we welcome 200,000 ukrainian refugees as well . the ukrainian refugees as well. the afghan population, hong kongers as well. so those people were included in that was a bit of a boom post covid because was fewer travel restrictions , etc. fewer travel restrictions, etc. so all of that is on display. it's a huge number. it's still a vast number and i am concerned, as i believe jonas as well, that moving fast too soon without anywhere put a lot of these people without any way of integrating different people into society and sorting public services as well can lead could lead anyway to social breakdown and that frankly is a terrifying thing. jb is our gbnews.uk keep your views coming in lots more to come in the next hour though, including more on those net figures. absolutely. come the uk cope thousands of pro—india

pendants campaigners join nicholas sturgeon last night after the supreme court ruled the scottish parliament does not the scottish parliament does not the power to legislate for a vote on independence. is she saying that she's trapped? scotland in an scotland is trapped in an unhappy of nations. i've to be honest with you, given the fact that we have very stark figures about exactly what the government receives from westminster, maybe they're not the want the only ones who want a divorce, but here she is for established westminster or other wise well, ever silenced the voice of the scottish people on a day off. anyway, today she's claimed that politicians at westminster are blocking demands for a second scottish independence referendum because fear outcome also ask should fear the outcome also ask should we name shame doctors? yes, we should refuse to meet patients face to face. i know loads of people who've had an illness and they've been misdiagnosed over zoom. i think it's an absolute scandal. gp's got to seeing people face to face and being named and shamed. if don't, i'll be back in a moment.

welcome back. it's all ready . welcome back. it's all ready. o'clock. you're with me. patrick christys on gb news. and coming up the latest as the number of migrants arriving in the uk has hit the highest number on record , more than half a million, a positive meeting between the rmt and the government ahead of multiple train strikes, winter and a snap poll suggests half of schools would vote snp at the next election if a victory for the party could lead to scottish independence. good luck with that then sacrifice your nhs , that then sacrifice your nhs, your system and you your education system and you love prisons. love men and women's prisons. anyway, minister's anyway, the prime minister's official the uk's official says that the uk's immigration system is broken . immigration system is broken. net migration figures show over half million people have moved to the uk in the last year.

that's a record high and this rise is largely due to 144,000 ukrainian refugees , 22,000 ukrainian refugees, 22,000 people from afghanistan . but we people from afghanistan. but we have to couple this down with the fact asylum applications, including arriving in small boats across . the english boats across. the english channel has reached 73,000. can britain cope do we have the infrastructure with all this? and do we have a plan to fix this impact? could we closer to a resolution between striking rail workers and rail operators 7 rail workers and rail operators ? rmt general secretary matt granger lynch met the government earlier this and said afterwards that the discussions were quite positive but should the government bowed down to demands are you willing to face down the potential for a general ? yes, potential for a general? yes, scotland pro campaigners have approached us across the country last night . approached us across the country last night. speaking this morning, nicholas sturgeon said westminster leaders are scared of indyref2 too of the supreme court ruled . the scottish court ruled. the scottish parliament does not have the power to legislate for a vote on independence without agreement

from . let me now all of your from. let me now all of your thoughts on all of these, including another big one that i'm passionate about. should we name and shame gp's who don't see for their patients face see it for their patients face to face think it's pretty clear which side of that debate i'm on. gb news gbnews.uk big questions. today should we questions. v today should we name shame gp's and your name and shame gp's and your reaction shocking new reaction to these shocking new net migration figures? more than half million year now half million people a year now as said, lots . patrick, as you said, lots. patrick, thank you. good afternoon. it's 3 minutes past fall. i'm bethany lc here to bring you up to date on gb news. the home secretary says she is to reducing levels of migration as the number entering the uk has hit its highest level since the second world war office . national world war office. national statistics data shows 504,000 more people moved to the uk than left in the year to june . it left in the year to june. it beats the previous record of hundred and 90,000 in 2015, suella braverman . the rise has

suella braverman. the rise has been driven by, ukrainians fleeing the war and evacuation from afghanistan and vowed to review the government's policies in order to ensure sustainable and controlled the shadow home secretary says the government is failing today's figures show is that the conservatives have completely both the asylum and the immigration systems . so the immigration systems. so you've got 98% of small boat cases still haven't been decided . and at the same time there's been 80% increase in work visas because the government is failing to tackle the skills and some of the labour in the economy . while border control economy. while border control expert henry bolton told gb news there's an addition of strain on local communities with no increase in services to match. you've got mps from across the country , it's sort of beyond one country, it's sort of beyond one party here, a saying look what is happening. party here, a saying look what is happening . our local areas is happening. our local areas are being now flooded with

people on hotels being taken oven people on hotels being taken over. we have no no idea how long this is going to go on and noidea long this is going to go on and no idea what you're going to do about it. there is no plan and that's the problem. review into death of a five year old boy in wales says . there are systemic wales says. there are systemic issues in children. it logan mwangi who died july last year, was failed by who didn't report the injuries suffered in the months before his . the chair of months before his. the chair of the safeguarding that dealt with his case has taken responsibility and apologised . responsibility and apologised. logan's mother stepfather and stepbrother were given life sentences for his murder earlier this year . sentences for his murder earlier this year. 120 people have been arrested in uk's biggest fraud sting . the global operation sting. the global operation brought down a website which helped criminals scam thousands of victims out of millions of pounds. the site generated spoof phone number, which made it look as if calls were being made from banks tax offices and other official bodies . around 70,000

official bodies. around 70,000 potential victims will now be sent a text asking them contact police . the rmt has asked the police. the rmt has asked the government for help in resource saving its dispute with train companies . the union's general companies. the union's general secretary mick lynch has been holding talks . the transport holding talks. the transport secretary, after announcing fresh round of strikes over the festive period. he described meeting with mark harper as positive , but he hasn't ruled positive, but he hasn't ruled out further industry action. he wants the government act as a facilitator . setting out in facilitator. setting out in writing what the train operators have. writing what the train operators have . we've got a dispute here have. we've got a dispute here with who are not allowed to negotiate. he's got to clarify that in writing to us and perhaps to them. and that's his role. he is the facilitator as he's now putting himself. so he's now putting himself. so he's got to show us what that actually means. some mechanics of how this is going to progress and some timelines of how we're going to progress. the discussions . teachers across discussions. teachers across scotland staging their first national strike in almost years.

thousands staff are demonstrating, calling a 10% pay rise. members of the education institute of scotland are warning more industrial action if their demands aren't met. good morning . support your good morning. support your striking staff. good meanwhile, around 70,000 university and college union have launched a two day strike and plan walk out again on the of november. the union says lecturers and other academics staff have suffered a decade of below inflation pay rises . nhs decade of below inflation pay rises. nhs england warning ambulance crews are facing crippling delays when they arrive at with patients. new data shows last week three in ten ambulances had to wait outside for half an hour or more. that's higher than at any point last winter, signifying higher numbers of people are also in hospital because of flu compared to this time last year and flood warnings have been issued and transport delays are expected to strong winds and

heavy rain hit the uk. the met office has put out a yellow wind warning for wales from 7 pm. until midnight. similar alerts are currently in place across southern and northwest england . southern and northwest england. winds could reach up to 65 miles per hour, especially on the coast with some areas risk of power cuts . you're up to date on power cuts. you're up to date on gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens now. let's get back to . get back to. patrick yes. well, moments ago i brought you a bit of breaking news when it came to the net migration figures in space officially, anyway, on home secretary's response to that, because suella braverman has said that we need response to that, because suella b sustainable s said that we need response to that, because suella b sustainable approacht we need response to that, because suella b sustainable approach towardsed a sustainable approach towards migration. it follows the home office announcement that net migration had more than half a people last year. casey wandering. yes, that is a record . and it goes with the record .

. and it goes with the record. illegal immigration as well or channel crossings, i should say. it's estimated that over half a million more people came to the uk than left in 2021, making it the highest since the second world war. the previous record was a cool 390,000 set in 2015 before brexit. joining in the studio to discuss this is our very own home security editor . very own home security editor. mark white mark, the are stark suella braverman just yet again i think wheeling out the tried and tested phrase if we really care about this we really want to do something about it. but well, numbers don't lie, do they? yeah. i mean, i think she probably does want to do something about it. i think that in sort of political brain she wants to get net migration down to the tens of thousands like cameron himself said he wanted to do when he took office in 2010. but this fat chance of that. no. to be honest since 2010, net migration was running

at an average of about 200,000 a year. at an average of about 200,000 a year . this at an average of about 200,000 a year. this last year, no half a million is just we north of that. and there are a few factors. let's drill down into the figures we can see that 504,000 more people to the uk the left in year to june 2020. so about 1,100,000 or so came just over half a million left and you left. then with the net migration figure , those who are migration figure, those who are here and remaining for the time being at least now, that absolutely smashes patrick the previous net migration record of 390,000, which was set in 2015. and as i said , are a number of and as i said, are a number of reasons behind this high net migration this year. 476,000 student visas were granted in the 24 months to september 2020

to and the other one of the other reasons is our resettlement programme to help people from ukraine and afghanistan and kong out in terms of 200,000 as you can see on the screen people from ukraine came across to the uk granted . in the last year to granted. in the last year to september yeah indeed and there's a huge amount still down into that nation gentlemen watching at home listening your cars whatever do and we're cars whatever you do and we're about have big debate on as about to have a big debate on as we be doing at various we will be doing at various different points the different points throughout the show many different show because so many different elements think we've elements this do you think we've got infrastructure handle got the infrastructure to handle this of people how this sheer volume of people how have got the public services have we got the public services orindeed have we got the public services or indeed resources in order or indeed the resources in order to do it all concerned maybe to do it all you concerned maybe the where you live changing the area where you live changing too changing too much too fast and changing too much or you welcome of this? or do you welcome all of this? how feel about the how do you feel about the breakdown, when it breakdown, those numbers when it comes that we allowed comes to people that we allowed in a result of resettlement in as a result of resettlement schemes like mark was saying that, yes, you've got ukrainians, hong kongers, ukrainians, the hong kongers, you've well,

you've got the afghans. well, also, you couple it when it also, when you couple it when it comes to what's going on in the channel with illegal immigration, this immigration, how all of this make you feel do you think now that there is realistic mean a major political party that wants or do anything this or can do anything this gbviews@gbnews.uk can britain cope is the big one that we're going in with today i'm going to hear from views. i'm going to debate all of this. but those were the figures that were revealed when it came to legal immigration. a immigration. mark, it's not a pretty picture when. it comes to the illegal stuff either, is it? no very significant numbers of people into the by people crossing into the uk by irregular means. it's titled by the home office . some 42,000 the home office. some 42,000 people came across in boats. so far this year we've not had come across in recent because of course of whether conditions. but once those improve, there's a window again, then we'll get hundreds, thousands more across. no, clearly . the 42,000 that

no, clearly. the 42,000 that have come across , the vast have come across, the vast majority claims asylum. in fact, last we told that 72,000 asylum applications were received . of applications were received. of those 72,000, 13,650 of the asylum were made by. and of course, half that number were told were asylum applications were made by albanians who crossed in small boats. 90% of those albanians who are male, though, have their asylum applications rejected. so only 10% of albanian males ever those asylum claims accepted. why are they not on a plane back to tirana? well the reason is that of them then go on to claim to be victims of trafficking or modern slavery that then has to go into a process a tandem process that looks into whether indeed they have been trafficked. the threshold for proving not though is quite so

many of them after get leave to remain while expertly done as there are human security at risk. thank you very much for outlining those figures both when it comes to legal and illegal immigration into the united kingdom, 504,000 more people came the uk than left in the year to june 2022. not comparison, of course, the 390,000 net migration in 2015. so a new record. joining me now , head of public policy at the institute for economic affairs, matthew lash and professor of politics and expert anthony glees . matthew, i will start glees. matthew, i will start with you. can britain with the number of people coming here in terms of net migration above , terms of net migration above, half a million. can we cope ? you half a million. can we cope? you know, i think it's important put these numbers in context, which is say they are, of course, record and quite extraordinary , record and quite extraordinary, but at the same time driven by particular, there are a lot of students who might have previously been in the country

dunng previously been in the country during 2020 or 2021, but unfortunately , due to covid work unfortunately, due to covid work we're doing remote learning and there's been a flood of students into the country. i mean, obviously there is student accommodation that they are now filling exactly as filling. it's not exactly as much of a struggle to deal with students who kind of come and go in numbers. and then, of course , we've got ukrainian immigrants, a of are immigrants, a lot of are temporary. and then the hong kongers and the afghans. i mean, i agree. if you have a system in which you a high level of immigration but then prevent any houses from being built or infrastructure or any of any of that necessary growth . we're that necessary growth. we're really a long way behind where we terms of delivering we should in terms of delivering major projects. yes and the people who already here, as well as . so i think absolutely that as. so i think absolutely that doesn't mean we should demonise immigrants and say immigrants, of course, are the reason why we can't anything in this can't build anything in this country. no. well, country. no no. well, absolutely. far from me? i'm absolutely. how far from me? i'm saying probably of saying that's probably one of the reasons why we should saying that's probably one of theit. reasons why we should saying that's probably one of theit. in reasons why we should saying that's probably one of theit. in fact,;ons why we should saying that's probably one of theit. in fact, ins why we should saying that's probably one of theit. in fact, i thinky we should saying that's probably one of theit. in fact, i think you'dhould be it. in fact, i think you'd see a lot less social disquiet

as if it was visible, wasn't it, that you could all of these people that public services were going swamped, as were. going to be swamped, as it were. anthony this ties anthony glees this ties into your professor of your now as professor of politics security experts. politics and security experts. on that, i'm about the on top of that, i'm about the fact that we've had governments , governments two , two governments of two governments putting governments just putting papenng governments just putting papering the cracks and papering over the cracks and going, well, we'll pass this one down the line to the next man or woman. and actually, we've run out of because at what out of paper because at what point the go pop and we point does the old go pop and we realise we've far too realise that we've got far too many coming in, we can't many people coming in, we can't handle public services are handle our public services are not good. then you with not good. then you end up with massive, issues . massive, massive social issues. well, think there's argument well, i think there's argument as to whether we need immigrants in this country and if we do need immigrants, do we need immigrants with a high level of skills or do we need low skilled immigrants to work? for example , in our hospitality trade? i mean, where we live. you can't really get a meal any longer. the restaurants are full of signs say chefs wanted waiters wanted , etc, etc. so there's

wanted, etc, etc. so there's that argument. but i there's a more fundamental argument politics. i am a professor of politics. i am a professor of politics and take a special interest in security . the people interest in security. the people of this country believe that when they were voting for brexit they were voting for an end to immigration. they were voting for an end to immigration . now, that may have immigration. now, that may have been wrong, but that's what they thought they voted for and i think that be a very serious breakdown in the political culture of our country if people feel that they were conned over this what has happened, we can explore the figures and i have some sympathy with the institute for economic affairs who actually want a lot of migration. they're keen migration. they're keen migration. matthew might not tell you, but in relation to growth, he obviously immigration but it's not what people voted for and what we've is to exchange who came from europe and went back to europe as. we're saying to people who are

coming us from africa and asia who will be here forever and i simply think that that is wrong. you've got illegal immigration some of it consists of people crossing the channel. you've got lawfully seeking asylum. you've got a government i mean anybody that saw suella braverman and home affairs committee yesterday will feel there is somebody who has absolutely no competence at all to so yeah . johnson most the all to so yeah. johnson most the question i'll come back to i'll come to you on sunday i'll come back to you on that. but matthew when people a lot of people voted for brexit, immigration was a massive, massive issue . i was a massive, massive issue. i don't think it really was massively about or creed or nationality. it was about numbers and it was about quality . and actually what we're seeing now is the fact that the none of those things have really been implemented. they it does look it does just seem a little bit to me a little bit to me, like

now is not really a country . now is not really a country. it's just a plot of land with an economy. and anyone who wants it is allowed to come . yeah, look, is allowed to come. yeah, look, i mean just on that point about, you know, my views about i think i'm unashamed to very proud say that i'm pro—immigration and that's something that i'm interested in in whatsoever in terms the brexit vote the terms of the brexit vote in the politics i the key politics here. i mean, the key demand leave was to take demand vote leave was to take back control of immigration, to end movement within eu. end free movement within the eu. and fact, the government has and in fact, the government has ended movement in net terms. there is a reduction in. eu citizens in in the uk in the last 12 months as, as was suggested by the minister today. so the question is what you had that freedom to just control your borders whether or not you use it to limit migration or to keep it the same or increase it. now the polls on that have suggested that there's actually been least since 2016 a legalisation in attitudes towards immigration with with fewer people wanting numbers to down. now there clearly are some people would like to see a lot

less immigration would like to see much control borders see much more control borders there who are there are some people who are comes and comes with immigration and would like see some people perhaps like to see some people perhaps relatively small numbers who like see more immigration. so like to see more immigration. so l, like to see more immigration. so i, i don't think it's as simple as i, but brexit was just about reducing numbers. reducing immigration numbers. i think vehicle brexit think in some vehicle of brexit was having diverse immigration , was having diverse immigration, not just having failed with the i want to decide 12 points by system . yeah. and another thing system. yeah. and another thing was to have control of our own laws as well. i think people saw that as exploring it back from the eu superstate having much of a say over our legal system. i also it frankly as just to get this nation moving when it comes to things like planning laws or housing laws being blocked. i believe all of it is going to go p0p- believe all of it is going to go pop. we can't have a country where we sort the where we to sort the infrastructure as well do infrastructure out as well as do all this. sorry, but there all this. i'm sorry, but there comes time on this stuff you comes a time on this stuff you can't really do do either can't really just do do either of things. but saying of those things. but i'm saying i'll final word to you. i'll give the final word to you. i'll give the final word to you. i my head a little i am scratching my head a little bit to see why people are bit just to see why people are paying bit just to see why people are paying people smugglers tens of

thousands come here thousands of pounds to come here illegally channel illegally across the channel when i can gather with when from what i can gather with these just these numbers, you could just try here and probably try to come here and probably get in. well i think this is a complicated question the people coming via the channel, the first thing to do with them is to process a very small number of people are entitled to asylum in this country. the vast are not entitled. it our choice as a country . we may disagree on country. we may disagree on whether it's a good choice or a bad choice, but the people have spoken it is our choice that these people should not be able to come to britain and even if they are so—called or truly victims of human trafficking, we have no obligation to keep them in this country germany, sweden, they simply do not accept that victims of human trafficking, have a right to stay in germany or speak . we need to process or speak. we need to process these . it used to take 40 days these. it used to take 40 days max. now and suella braverman told us stage 400 days to

process people so we should deal with the illegals they should go back very quickly and then we need to have a big debate about the sort of people we have. we still people these are not from nigeria and, asia. that's nonsense. and vast number of overseas students coming to this country. 476,000, most of whom will here is just crazy really is och i'm going to get shouted out you're to see very quick i'm sorry producers sorry. i'm very sorry. but on this student stay they get a visa because this is they get a visa because this is the big thing can they just can they just stay is a back door into the country very quickly it isindeed into the country very quickly it is indeed a back door there all sorts this you could do sorts of this that you could do with students, then bring with your students, then bring your universities your families a few universities with that cash. but it's not what people voted for . alright, what people voted for. alright, that's enough. thank you very much . good stuff. both of each much. good stuff. both of each as he left the who is head of pubuc as he left the who is head of public policy at the iaea and professor of policy security

expert anthony glaze. both of you, thank you very, very yes. okay. now you are with me, patrick christys on gb news. coming up, should we name and shame gp basically don't see shame gp who basically don't see enough people face face. i'm enough people face to face. i'm that question is yes some of you may think no get in so it's gbviews@gbnews.uk uk and former scotland office minister has branded it's a disgrace the snp leader nicholas sturgeon intends to continue splashing the cash to continue splashing the cash to push for independence so quote gavin williamson totally shut up , go away. i'll be having shut up, go away. i'll be having a fiery debate on that one vulcan at six in a bit we are gb news the people's channel i'm right across. the united kingdom. you can find us on sky channel 512 virgin media 604 freesat channel 216 freeview channel 236 and youview channel three six. you can also take with you on dab plus radio the gb news app and that the website where everywhere come join on gb news the people's channel

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channel should name and shame gp's gp practises could be named and shamed as new league tables is set to show, these surgeries offering the least number of face face appointments, the move was announced year, but today is the first day that patients are able to judge their local practise the threat of naming and shaming may have actually worked today . figures have been worked today. figures have been released showing the gp's in england carried out record numbers of appointments this october. we go . and more october. there we go. and more than 70% of people were sitting face to face, which is the highest proportion since the pandemic. rob canny, a pandemic. but rob canny, a senior clinical lecturer at, the university of exeter medical school but there school me right now, but there you go. a little bit of cajoling

the threats, naming and shaming and pulled the finger out. and gp's pulled the finger out. no just having a go at gp's whilst the system has failed the gp's . now let me emphasise gp's. now let me emphasise primary care, that's general practise provides exceedingly good value for the national health service. the problem is we just do not have enough gp's and this is the matter that needs to be addressed . we have needs to be addressed. we have got gp's leaving . you will tell got gp's leaving. you will tell me that a lot of gp's being trained. the trouble is being trained. the trouble is being trained but they're not going into practise. in fact, i'm of those examples. i am a trained but i'm not practising an infectious disease expert . so infectious disease expert. so those are the issues, not enough gp's to deliver really good value for the national service. okay, all right but there are many, many, many that really quite shocking when it comes to these figures actually just one in eight gp appointments are carried face to face at england's worst performing practises. the government's first ever league table. it

shows that 12% of consultations were in person in october some practises in london by stretch of the imagination, without shocking. it can't be systemic, can it ? well the other problem can it? well the other problem also is in in some deprived areas, especially deprived areas, especially deprived areas, the demand far outstrip the supply of general . there are the supply of general. there are cultural issues , there are some cultural issues, there are some extra demands on gp's in some places and there are just not enough gp's wishing work in those areas. this is nothing new. patrick i remember was a gp in the south wales area and in those days was very unpopular area to recruit gp's not now, but in my time it really difficult for gp's to is there any truth is there, any truth to the fact doctor that once gp start working loads overtime they go into the higher tax bracket , they get taxed frankly bracket, they get taxed frankly quite an astonishing rate and so it frankly is not their while to work overtime . this is also

work overtime. this is also issue with regards to bringing back. issue with regards to bringing back . o issue with regards to bringing back . 0 okay, well i'll tell you back. 0 okay, well i'll tell you what does it matter? i'll discuss this one because actually, i've got to be honest here, this is point and brace yourselves, people. this is a point where i actually have some sympathy with the gp's because. yes it's a vocation in yes all right it's a vocation in a sense but it is also in very important job and this can't be lost in all of the kind of bashing that i've doing bashing that i've been doing here, because fundamentally i am on side of patients. on the side of patients. i absolutely i people absolutely am. i know people personally who misdiagnosed personally who were misdiagnosed over that over zoom and thankfully that didn't serious didn't end up being serious as it could but there it could have been. but there will people up and down the will be people up and down the country right now and probably people this people that you know, have told know, who will have been told that something just asthma know, who will have been told that it)mething just asthma know, who will have been told that it turned|g just asthma know, who will have been told that it turned out just asthma know, who will have been told that it turned out it just asthma know, who will have been told that it turned out it was asthma know, who will have been told that it turned out it was cancera and it turned out it was cancer and. this happened rather a and. this has happened rather a lot for liking. so lot too often for my liking. so i on side of patients. it's i am on side of patients. it's the same position i had when it comes to the nurses strikes. sympathy wonderful sympathy for nurses, wonderful job. a life and job. i've never saved a life and frankly if your life was in dangen frankly if your life was in danger, you would not this running but same time

running away. but the same time if suffer. well, i'm if patients suffer. well, i'm sorry patients than sorry there's more patients than people the nhs will people who work in the nhs will always on the of the always be on the side of the patients. but you have to incentivise people it . and incentivise people to do it. and if know the protocol they if gp's know the protocol they probably got normal lines outside of process. if they outside of that process. if they know they putting in know, if they start putting in an extra , we're talking a of an extra, we're talking now a of hours and they see oh maybe about 20% of that reflected in their salary then it does beg their salary then it does beg the question where is incentive to do it . yes, you could argue to do it. yes, you could argue they should just care enough to do it, but at what point do you. well, hang on a minute. if you keep them dead keep walloping them dead with all these tax brackets, then all of these tax brackets, then like people any like people like people in any like people in job, you start to in any job, you would start to question you are doing question why you are doing so much wouldn't you ? but much overtime, wouldn't you? but i hear from on this. do i want to hear from on this. do you think it's right that we name and shame various different gp's indeed they do gp's practises if indeed they do not people to not see enough people face to face? comes a new study has face? this comes a new study has been revealed around 6000 plus surgeries were surveyed and this and yes, there are some shocking ones and it shows that 12% of

consults were in person october at some london practises. so if you're at a london practise some of them anyway, 12, just 12% were to face face. but when people and i remember talking about this about a year ago when they were thinking about bringing study and should we name shame them was you name and shame them it was you can't possibly and shame can't possibly name and shame gp's it's unfair. gp's practises. it's unfair. well what's happened there was the name shame the threat to name and shame them oh and they started seeing more people face to face that would so think that's would go. so i think that's a win anyway, those of you been getting in touch with your thoughts, levels of thoughts, the record levels of net let's delve into net migration. let's delve into the world my the terrifying world of my inbox. leslie i inbox. gbnews.uk leslie says, i don't any political party don't think any political party will sort this mess out. i agree you labour opened the you leslie. labour opened the floodgates. another floodgates. blair yet another example of tony blair's legacy . example of tony blair's legacy. this guy flushable , dennis, says this guy flushable, dennis, says we need to stop paying out benefits. we must get people in jobs. this attracts those who want to exploit the system. dennis is an interesting point that fascinating issue the student visa thing something

like 400,000 student visas granted does that make it easier for people to stay once they finish their studies does it make it easier for them to bring their families in? does that mean a way to britain mean this is a way to britain through the back door? is anybody else scratching their heads when we heads at? the moment when we look the fact we've got look at the fact that we've got record net migration, if record of net migration, if you're us, over you're joining us, it's over a million. 504,000 is our net migration figure. so record levels of , legal migration figure. so record levels of, legal immigration , levels of, legal immigration, both at record levels of illegal immigration when it comes the channel crossings, 72,000 asylum applications not all of them channel crossings, by the way, 72,000 asylum applications in the last year , 13.6 thousand are the last year, 13.6 thousand are albanians. but gallow to this 99 0% of albanian men are apparently asylum because saying that they're not asylum seekers , what do they do then? what do they use illegal to go out with human traffickers? i would question i would question how valid idea that you've been trafficked to somewhere once you've paid tens of thousands of

poundsin you've paid tens of thousands of pounds in order to be sent there. but there we go. that's legal system. time for one more quick one, marilyn. if i turned up at any airport in the world without. my passport. i will be refused to even board the plane, let have any chance of let alone have any chance of answering country. goes on answering a country. she goes on to earth we do it to say, why on earth do we do it with people across the channel? yes. marilyn yes. okay. fair marilyn vaiews@gbnews.uk. yes. okay. fair marilyn vaiew scotland s.uk. yes. okay. fair marilyn vaiew scotland break from should scotland break from the rest of the uk? should the rest of the uk before scotland? it's unlikely it'll happen any time soon. nicholas sturgeon, soon. but nicholas sturgeon, she's still waving that flag. she i she for scottish independence. i can't but wonder whether or not whether she's whipping up whether not she's whipping up xenophobic but these xenophobic. but first, these latest headlines . good it's latest headlines. good it's 4:33. i'm bethany elsey , the gb 4:33. i'm bethany elsey, the gb newsroom. the home secretary says she is committed to reducing levels of migration as the number the uk has its highest level since the second world war. office for national data shows 504,000 more people

moved to the uk than left in year to june. it beats the previous of 390,000. in 2015. suella braverman said the rise has been driven by fleeing the war and the evacuation from afghanistan . the chair of afghanistan. the chair of a safeguarding that dealt with the case of a five year old boy in wales who was murdered. his family has apologised , after a family has apologised, after a review, found failings. logan died in july last year. months of abuse at the hands of his mother stepfather stepbrother. he was given life sentences earlier this year. the report found he was failed authorities who didn't report his . 120 who didn't report his. 120 people have been arrested in the uk's biggest fraud sting . the uk's biggest fraud sting. the global operation brought a website which helped criminals , website which helped criminals, thousands of victims out of millions of pounds. st a spoof phone number which made it look as if calls were being made. banks around 70,000 potential

victims will now be sent a text asking them to contact police and rmt has asked the government for help in resolving its dispute with train companies. the union's secretary, mick lynch has been talks with the transport secretary after announcing a fresh round of strikes over the festive period . he described the meeting with mark harper as positive, but he hasn't out further. industrial action . you're up to date on tv action. you're up to date on tv onune action. you're up to date on tv online and db plus radio this is tv news. don't go anywhere. look at back to patrick in just a moment . moment. okay. loads coming your way, ladies . gentlemen, we are okay. loads coming your way, ladies. gentlemen, we are going to be talking about rails, trikes. yes. mick leinster, grange , some people are calling grange, some people are calling him. did have a meeting with our transport secretary. what was the outcome of that? we'll find out. what are his actual demands? do about it

demands? how do feel about it and strike action actually and would strike action actually be worse under labour? but before all of that, nicholas sturgeon has claimed that politicians westminster are politicians in westminster are blocking for a second blocking demands for a second scottish independence referendum because they're afraid of it . because they're afraid of it. the scottish first minister was speaking the day after the supreme court ruled the scottish does not have the power to legislate for a vote. we all know what happened there. they basically can't a basically said she can't hold a referendum her own referendum just off her own accord. we all know happened accord. so we all know happened there. moving this there. right. and moving this discussion on sunday. joining me to neil who is in to the is neil hamby who is in alba for kara kennedy and alba mp for kara kennedy and cowdenbeath plus also joined by michelle ballantyne, the former leader of reform uk, scotland right. okay. i will start with neil. thank you very much for coming on the show. realistically not the westminster set, is it. we have a rule of law in this country and if nicholas sturgeon like it well then she's a dictator . oh well then she's a dictator. oh my goodness. well i'm, not here to defend nicholas sturgeon that is absolutely for sure i mean,

that the bottom line is it was the wrong question to the wrong core at the wrong time . and core at the wrong time. and unfortunately, the response of the court was entirely because what we were doing in that action was asking the upper of the british state to accept scotland's possession as , an scotland's possession as, an ancient name and who that has been independent for centuries before was coerced into this current union in oh seven to have the ability to exercise the right of withdrawal just as the uk its right of withdrawal from a voluntary union from the eu and people in scotland do not see any particular in fact , i see any particular in fact, i think lord reed's judgement was was incredibly misguided and

actually incredibly tactful for scotland's case to reassert independence. the point you've made is this country well, independence. the point you've made is this country well , there made is this country well, there isn't such a thing as this country. the united kingdom , one country. the united kingdom, one state. but still remained two countries. scotland is still a country. it's in a political union. with england there is no union. with england there is no union. scotland still has a border. it still is a legal entity. even the un. so, you know , think we need to have some know, think we need to have some reality to discussion. well, we could argue that there is a bit of reality to the referendum in 2014 standing up for the rights of the people in oh seven and maybe whether or not we should be repeating that now. i can't help but wonder just to maybe build on what neil was saying, if i thought i was michelle ballantyne, who's leader or former leader of reform uk , i am former leader of reform uk, i am seeing an number of people south of the border saying, to be honest with you, we want to

leave . yeah, because all they leave. yeah, because all they hear from is in effect the scottish government who do nothing but moan and whinge and present grievance on every single issue . but i think it is single issue. but i think it is really important get over that they represent the they still don't over 50% of the vote this still languishing in forties and actually some who vote for them don't actually want independence. so it is a wrong characterisation. say that the scottish people want to break up the uk. they do , not the the uk. they do, not the majority, still support the union. neil, can i ask you, do want two things? do you want to do you want to for scotland to be independent but for it to not be independent but for it to not be run by nicholas? because the problem that you might have there is that at the next election, nicholas sturgeon is saying a vote for the snp is a vote for. so you are urging everyone to vote snp and then you coup. no no, absolutely you want coup. no no, absolutely not. my position made clear last night i was speaking in scotland

last night after the judgement of what we need to do is as a movement because as uncomfortable as it may be for the conservatives there are conservative voters in scotland liberal democrat voters in scotland labour , voters in scotland labour, voters in scotland labour, voters in scotland who support independence and when if they plebiscite, if plebiscite election is brought forward . oh election is brought forward. oh well, that's a shame. so i promise you, we're not trying to silence neil. i believe i can go to michelle and michelle is still with us. the former leader reform uk , scotland people with reform uk, scotland people with scottish flags outside studio head crying blue murder at the idea that we might have just before friend from 21 independence that neil puts i'll throw it back over to you michelle i am concerned michelle am concerned about some the rhetoric that's used of some of the manner in which some of

these discussions are are north of the border . that is there are of the border. that is there are a lot of anti english hate the that a phobia is strong and i wouldn't dare use it. well the obvious yeah i that you're quite right to be concerned and i think this could be a very difficult period because without a doubt nationalist movement are getting quite and can hear that as as the rhetoric increases. and nicola sturgeon's her language yesterday really about the concept that democracy had been lost in scotland which clearly not the case we you know we have democratic votes that's why we've got in power, for god's sake. you know , if it was god's sake. you know, if it was all the majority, she wouldn't actually be in power. so we have we have a very strong democrat system in scotland . and no system in scotland. and no matter how the nationalists deny that they are holding the majority of the seats but not the majority , the votes. neil, the majority, the votes. neil, your bottom right. really

important thing to remember. the unionists split the right probably our own fault to some but that's the reality of it , but that's the reality of it, michel. all right. thank you. yes, neil, sorry. we our best to cancel you, but you've come back now. go on. what's going on? i don't know what happens? there. i lost you, but i don't know which. but do you have much? do you miss the? what i was saying is that, however uncomfortable it is for unionist party, there are supporters of independence in the conservative, the lib dem party, the labour party. and that's why the next if there is to be a plebiscite election has to be a plebiscite election has to befall a scotland united because many voters, including in my party simply will not vote for nicholas sturgeon or the snp. i'm is a reality that has be faced by the independence movement . so we need to have movement. so we need to have a plebiscite that is inclusive of all of scotland. it has to be scotland united the fights the next election. i just want to

challenge that notion hatred of england mean this really dangerous and divisive language when i have lots of my career in england and i have some alien friends all over wonderful. this is not disliking anyone . this is is not disliking anyone. this is about one thing, the normal powers of any country . yes, but powers of any country. yes, but i it. but but it is a tight rope. does say i'm one that people on the right and this. yeah it is it absolutely is because because it is a fight because because it is a fight because this is the similar thing about people going oh you know you just you just don't want you just don't want immigration in this country because racist. and that because you are racist. and that tightrope always tightrope doesn't always get walked people's walked the best of people's abilities. there's a very similar line between similar is a fine line between people scottish and people wanting scottish and actually not english as actually frankly not english as the people who were on the bndge the people who were on the bridge on the motorway on a drive into scotland waving the scottish with scottish flags showed me with a of different hand signals . yeah

of different hand signals. yeah well i'm going to say sorry i was going to ask neil. that's all right. now is it true? i mean, it's simply not true. there are a huge number of engush there are a huge number of english people who are part of the independence in scotland. we engush the independence in scotland. we english scots for yes as a large group. but then the independence , there's absolutely no hatred . , there's absolutely no hatred. anyone. we are a white community people from all different backgrounds . i said, i'm from backgrounds. i said, i'm from northern ireland . i have been i northern ireland. i have been i was brought up in scotland. there are people from all over the united kingdom who live in scotland? this is about the people who live in scotland. that's about honest people . all that's about honest people. all right. okay. bill buckley, thank you very much. got to go very literally. 30 seconds. can i just say during the 2014 referendum, we quite a lot of aggression . we had streaks where aggression. we had streaks where they. aggression. we had streaks where they . yes. signs in just to stop

they. yes. signs in just to stop people . and you can shake your people. and you can shake your head all you like. but the reality would be, look, we've reached we've reached a natural conclusion . we've reached a conclusion. we've reached a natural conclusion to be. thank you very much. all right. all okay, guys. thank you very much . by mail, humvee, that is alba mp for kirkcaldy and cowdenbeath michelle ballantyne, the leader of reform uk scotland. strong views on both sides that, right? coming up, could we be closer to a resolution between striking workers and rail operators ? workers and rail operators? probably no. the rmt secretary, mick greenwich, lynch has met the government earlier this afternoon and said afterwards that discussions positive should the government bound down to the demands which by the way, we heard exclusively here on gb news this very show earlier from a conservative party mp, greg smith, who is a member of the transport select committee. then actually apparently these demands are absolutely, completely ludicrous completely and utterly ludicrous . mick lynch, course, won't . mick lynch, of course, won't tell about himself because . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon'tabout himself because . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon't tellt himself because . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon't tell usimself because . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon't tell us whatf because . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon't tell us what he ecause . mick lynch, of course, won't telwon't tell us what he wants he won't tell us what he wants and hours after and go anywhere. hours after 5:00. while i be asking 5:00. while i will be asking whether not you trust , the

whether or not you trust, the tories, when it comes to lowering both legal and illegal immigration, the news dropped . immigration, the news dropped. we were on air. that's what they promised as they're committed to it. but the fact is we've got record levels of net migration stopping half a million come we cope , can't wake up a bucket, cope, can't wake up a bucket, a tick .

strike, strong strikes you look tens of thousands of workers , tens of thousands of workers, schools, universities and royal centres today in worsening disputes , pay jobs and meanwhile disputes, pay jobs and meanwhile the main in the rail dispute also met to try to thrash out their differences ahead of another round of strikes predicted over christmas and into the new year . just as we into the new year. just as we could see a glimmer of happiness in our bleak and, futile lives making inroads. national rail strikes are estimated to have

cost the country half £1,000,000,000. already speaking after today's talks with the transport secretary man himself, marc lynch set , the dialogue had marc lynch set, the dialogue had been opened , i would say is been opened, i would say is a positive. me in the sense that we've rid of the bellicose nonsense that we used to had from grant shapps his cohort. it is era and we're now starting to get dialogue so what we're hoping for what mr. harper is committed to giving us an outcome from this meeting which will be a letter to me and we've said it's no good having these warm words. we've heard them from his predecessor trevelyan, but nothing actually happened . but nothing actually happened. so we want him to sit down writing what he's going to do about the mechanics of how a resolution will be facilitated is using a word that bellicose he tried to look up earlier on, which perhaps my ignorance but essentially means militant rhetoric. so we've got their the leader of the rmt who is threatening to cost britain billions of pounds, bring it to

its knees, put small businesses out of business right at a time when they need the left more than ever and ruins people's christmas and new year's. he's accusing the previous transport grant shapps of taking a militant tone. i mean, you couldn't make this stuff up, it's orwellian . anyway, it's orwellian. anyway, transport secretary mark was cautiously optimistic after productive talks . well, look, i productive talks. well, look, i think know you just refer there to what mr. lynch said after the meeting . and i both agree that meeting. and i both agree that this was a meeting it was the first one that we've had think it struck the right tone . i it struck the right tone. i think there was a shared agreement in the meeting. we both want to a thriving railway thatis both want to a thriving railway that is sustainable for the future that serves passengers that serves the country and also provides good well—paid jobs for the people that he represents. so i think there's a lot of shared agreement there . we need shared agreement there. we need to have the two sides, the trade unions and, the employers sit agree on the detail so that we

can bring this dispute to an end. and i think that's we both have a shared interest . end. and i think that's we both have a shared interest. i'm reliably informed that transport secretary mark harper said something that but that would go well as i pointed out 10 minutes ago the rail dispute is just one ripple of a wave of industrial sweeping the country with of potentially devastating consequence for british business in the run up to christmas somebody is fronting up to all of that me right now to discuss the impacts on the uk's hospitality and leisure industry in what should be busiest time of year. simon thomas thank you very much. owner of hippodrome casino. can just say what a terrific establishment you have there. and back in the day i did used to enjoy a star martini in that downstairs bed, so i will claim an interest here. but. but what do you make of this? the fact that maitland essentially is saying, look , maybe we is saying, wow, look, maybe we can a maybe we won't, can get a deal, maybe we won't, but just the thrust of action alone, not going to hit you hard. frustrating. we've hard. it is frustrating. we've just come of a really awful

penod just come of a really awful period of covid all lockdowns, the west end restaurants, theatres , casinos were all theatres, casinos were all building back up. now we are so happy positive to be back open . happy positive to be back open. got thousands of customers who are up for their christmas parties . all the sudden we're parties. all the sudden we're being told . yeah. a week before being told. yeah. a week before the full week for christmas is can be completely and utterly torpedoed . these guys can't sort torpedoed. these guys can't sort out that but what do you do then simon what do you do because because with absolute respect your establishment relies on people having enough money to gamble with it. and if we're all paying gamble with it. and if we're all paying that in taxes higher paying that in taxes and higher wages very different wages first a very different pubuc wages first a very different public workers, then public sector workers, then we're scared to come see we're too scared to come to see you . well, you could put it that you. well, you could put it that way, but we offer fantastic value we will make. value for money. we will make. do have had rail strikes? do we have had rail strikes? recently, the west is incredibly resilient . i feel very sorry for resilient. i feel very sorry for the customers . we have to fight the customers. we have to fight to get it and particularly for our staff. get tony at home late at night when public services should , in my mind, to

should be, in my mind, to protect its service are closed because there may be unrealistic demands on both sites. the east grown ups should get together , grown ups should get together, sorted out and let's all of us get on with our lives. and then to him. do you think if mick lynch had ever actually run a business, then he wouldn't be speaking with the same kind of rhetoric . i speaking with the same kind of rhetoric. i don't speaking with the same kind of rhetoric . i don't know what rhetoric. i don't know what business is , but no, not run. business is, but no, not run. but i know for all of us that are running businesses, it drives us mad when you get these people are just not people that are just not commercial . suppose and goes to commercial. suppose and goes to politicians as well . we're the politicians as well. we're the ones that are paying the taxes that pay for all of this stuff and we should be get a little bit more respect we paid 100 million in tax in the last three years but it's now be put under pressure because they can't sort themselves out mick lynch wants so as far as the undecideds very difficult to what middle age wants because he won't actually tell and we can just glean it

from a variety different people who at some point had some kind of interaction him the rmt of interaction with him the rmt and the government. of and or the government. some of that from greg smith, that came from greg smith, transport committee transport select committee member on live here on member earlier on live here on this show . what i will tell you this show. what i will tell you is , although i want a pay cut, is, although i want a pay cut, well, they're not going to pay cut they never pay cut and they never had a pay cut. what wants, according to cut. what he wants, according to greg smith, is something that is according our way according to our expert way above inflow which would above inflow and which would mean like yourself mean someone like yourself paying mean someone like yourself paying do want to pay paying more tax. do want to pay more tax so that rail workers that they rmt can get a massive pay that they rmt can get a massive pay rise . some jobs can be pay rise. some jobs can be protected if technology makes them essentially . absolutely them essentially. absolutely not. and i think i don't understand the dispute i now understand the dispute i now understand that clearly money and modernisation are all in play. i can tell you from our business we have to modernise we have to work with of the precious we're under with costs of going up whatsoever and we have to be more efficient and i

think that should apply to every business. okay alright. and can i just yet again compliment on an absolutely fantastic established simon somerset who was the owner of hippodrome casino. i said good , it's a good casino. i said good, it's a good night out right now. you'll be me patrick christys on gb news lots to come in the next hour . lots to come in the next hour. more on those huge net migration figures. is nicholas sturgeon a disgrace ? but one former disgrace? but one former scotland office minister says we're continuing to pursue her indyref2 claims. and i will. labour mp graham stringer if he's backing strike action where. are labour on all of this? come on. are you proud of the workers? are you against the workers? are you in? the union's back pocket piped up. want back pocket piped up. i want hear from before i say hear from you before i say whether. there. i'm say whether. hello there. i'm say with latest weather update with your latest weather update for few hours that, for the next few hours that, weather clears towards the weather front clears towards the east with blustery showers to follow there wind and rain follow. there are wind and rain warnings in force until 7 pm. across wales and southern england, but the front does clear . but england, but the front does clear. but that low pressure system delivering showers and also further west but it also gales further west but it will drift towards the north all

change through friday quieter conditions and then yet again, more rain for the weekend so this heavy rain across the east will clear around the mid evening but notice a rash of showers the west and also strong winds. so a lively evening to come across wales western scotland, northern ireland, those showers tend to ease across england and wales, but further showers likely into the early hours of friday morning, the well as the west of the north as well as the west of scotland, two clipping scotland, one or two clipping northern. a chilly start to the day on friday, but it will be bright the morning. bright through the morning. a few tracking across few showers tracking across england they'll england and, wales, but they'll be far between. some be few and far between. some dner be few and far between. some drier weather, showers drier weather, but showers continue they'll be heavy continue and they'll be heavy across central and northern of scotland. two just scotland. one or two just creeping across northern creeping in across northern ireland. keen up ireland. so a keen breeze up here the south, a lighter here by the south, a lighter breeze as temperatures rise around 12, 13 degrees celsius. that pretty much sets the scene for the weekend. chilly mornings. amateur hour mornings. but some amateur hour through day. so a through through the day. so a through friday evening, we watch as these showers tend to come these showers tend to just come and go across western parts of scotland, elsewhere it's a dry

evening, a cold night even with a touch of frost and, some mist and fog patches start the day and fog patches to start the day on but rain is on saturday. but this rain is approaching from west. the approaching from the west. the winds picking up some winds are picking up some through saturday morning and eventually places will see eventually most places will see that and that rain through saturday and into sunday. it could stall across the southeast elsewhere. showers follow all in all showers will follow all in all through the next few days. yes after a bit of a chilly start on saturday morning, the rain will arrive the west. watch out for it being heavy with gales towards the and here's your outlook into the first part of next week things slowly down from and it will from the south and it will cooler as well .

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welcome back. you're with me patrick christys on gb news. coming up in the next hour. patrick christys on gb news. coming up in the next hour . the coming up in the next hour. the number of migrants arriving in the uk has hit the highest number recorded at over half a million. got get a grip of the system. we set a five point plan including taking action on some of those criminal record of legal and illegal immigration . legal and illegal immigration. the shadow home secretary there reacting to numbers, calling out the conservative downing street insisted the register was fully committed to bringing overall immigration levels down. i believe you want to see i don't know about. also this hour, nicolas is banging on about it. yes game and she's got pro—independence campaigners right behind quite literally for westminster or otherwise. well, never silence the voice of scottish people . oh, there we scottish people. oh, there we go. there's the former scotland minister has branded it a disgrace that sturgeon tends to continue splashing public money to push for independence after

the supreme court threw a huge blow for a referendum dream . blow for a referendum dream. and was full of praise for england. in his pre—match conference, he's done a great job with his team and. you know, they got off to a great start. they're a formidable opponent. it's going to be a difficult game for us. well, go. let me know what you think on everything that we're discussing today, two big ones for how you about the for you. how do you about the fact got record of fact that we've got record of net now over half a net migration now over half a million can britain cope. and yes you think as well something else that we're going to touch. well we don't gp's should be named and shamed if they refuse to see patients face to face gbviews@gbnews.uk before that. if headlines . patrick if you see headlines. patrick you. good afternoon. it's 5:01. i'm bethany. elsie here to bring you up to date from the gb

newsroom. nhs england is warning ambulance crews are facing crippling delays when they arrive at a&e with patient outs. new data shows that last week three in ten ambulances had to wait outside for half an hour or more. that's higher than at any point last winter. significantly higher numbers of people are also in hospital because of flu compared to this time last year . sorry were showing you the wrong pictures there . we can wrong pictures there. we can hear a vet, cooper now he's going to talk to us about net migration just give you an update on that. the home secretary says she is committed to reducing the levels of migration and as the number entering the uk has its highest level since records began. but the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, says the government is failing . today's government is failing. today's figures show that the conservatives have completely mismanaged both the asylum , the mismanaged both the asylum, the immigration systems . so you've immigration systems. so you've got 98% of small boat cases still haven't been decided and at the same time there's been

80% increase in work visas because the government is failing to the skills and some of the labour in the economy . of the labour in the economy. that's our top story on gb news. i will have more in an hour. now let's get back to patrick . patrick yes, hello. everybody is just 5:00. we got stuck straight in with our main story of the day. we're going to give some facts and figures. i'm going to debate over the course of this hour as well, strong views about this, because past couple of because in the past couple of hours, home secretary has hours, the home secretary has said a sustainable said that we need a sustainable and, approach to and, balanced approach to immigration. focus immigration. and her focus remains the of remains on tackling the abuse of our it the rather stark our system. it the rather stark that net migration has hit more than half a million people last yeah than half a million people last year. that's according to the home office. the actual figure

is 504,000 people. that's more people coming to the uk than in 2020, while which makes it the highest amount since the second world war, the highest since records rarely properly in its modern form. the previous record case anyone's counting was 390,000 sets in 2015, just before brexit. well, low to talk by and i want to hear from you vaiews@gbnews.uk uk do you think this kind of influx sustainable? do you think that we can actually cope? is the infrastructure there to do it? are you worried about maybe the area live in, changing area that you live in, changing irreversibly ever ? do you irreversibly for ever? do you welcome it important to as well. there were high numbers people in that bracket that from places like ukraine, hong kong , like ukraine, hong kong, afghanistan. we're going to afghanistan. and we're going to talk all this as well, talk about all this and as well, it make official now people it does make official now people doesn't got record doesn't see it. we've got record levels both legal and illegal levels of both legal and illegal . earth the tories going . what on earth the tories going to do about it? they've been in power long enough they. joining now is our very own as security editor mark white. mark, you're going to break this down us

crunched some numbers yeah well you remember one mr. david cameron in 2010 promised that he get net migration down the ten to the tens of thousand below 100,000, which what the current home secretary suella braverman says she like to achieve but it looks like there's fat chance of that if you look at the way the net migration figures have gone. i mean pretty much over the last decade been about 200 250,000 net migrate every single year of course to the growing population of this country and putting more and more and strain on the already strained public local authorities have in trying to provide health care, social services education, all of the wraparound services that local authorities expected to try to provide for a growing population that even begin to address the chronic social housing shortage

, have right across the country . now we're talking with these let's drill down into them , let's drill down into them, 504,000 and more people came to the uk than left last year. that is equivalent to city the size of liverpool or bradford, if you prefer . a big population centre prefer. a big population centre coming in 390,000 isn't was the net migration figure previously . in net migration figure previously. in by these latest figures 476,000 student visa applications were launched and last 24 months, up to september 2022 and that is one of the factors means that we have very record high of half a million net migration figure. add to that of course, the

resettlement . programme 200,000 resettlement. programme 200,000 people from ukraine fleeing the conflict there that have been resettled here. of course along with those from hong kong and from afghanistan as well. you can why we've got such a high net migration particular year but actually over the last decade or more we've had very, very net migration. yes, indeed. and this is a major something we wanted to give you the facts, the figures straight off the bat, didn't we? it's important to have that bit of context coming up in about 20 minutes time. we're going to have a box office debate on this. can britain cope? tories britain cope? do the tories actually about so well? actually care about it so well? the big reaction. the problem is big reaction. those was look, we those figures was say, look, we really about it and. we really do care about it and. we care about illegal immigration. well, you believe them? well, do you believe them? because like because it does seem like a procession conservative party procession of conservative party and ministers and prime ministers who are claiming to care about this stuff. i think most of us why the labour party stand there's much stand down is there's not much point down into that, point drilling down into that,

but the conservative but at least the conservative party to care about it party claiming to care about it and then not really doing much in that situation, getting worse. want from worse. and i want to know from you home you want done. you at home what you want done. do you think this is sustainable? do you think this is good? you think it's good is good? do you think it's good to help economic actually are to help economic or actually are you concerned about the you deeply concerned about the threat public services threat to public services we're having a massive debate on all of is, this the kind of of this now is, this the kind of level immigration britain can level of immigration britain can actually with, especially actually cope with, especially when you add to it the illegal numbers. well, yes and as far as a channel migration is concerned, the small boats crisis , the government's been crisis, the government's been lucky, actually that in the last few weeks we've had pretty horrendous weather conditions that have whipped up the waves and the winds in the channel and made small boat crossings pretty impenetrable . we haven't really impenetrable. we haven't really had any small border crossings this time last year november was the busiest month of last year. so if we a repeat of that this year , then the government would year, then the government would be in very significant trouble. there is no doubt the manston

situation in the late there would have been a real, real problem. but looking down again and drilling into the figures on asylum , the vast majority of the asylum, the vast majority of the 42,000 that come across the engush 42,000 that come across the english channel this year and in previous years claim asylum , previous years claim asylum, 72,000 asylum applications were received in the year to september 22, 13,650 of those asylum applications from albanians . albanians make up the albanians. albanians make up the single biggest representation far as nations are concerned on these small boats , and only 10% these small boats, and only 10% of albanian males who then go on to apply for asylum get accepted . 90% of albanian men are down for their site, for their asylum . but what they do then is they go on and they claim to be victims trafficking, modern slavery , and then they're put in slavery, and then they're put in a tandem parallel process in

which the data is assessed and then eventually these are probably given leave to remain . probably given leave to remain. yeah, this is this is the stark reality of it. those numbers are enough to make you spit out your coffee. really aren't they. if we at the fact that net we look at the fact that net migration is now topping half a million, add to that million, you add to that the numbers student and the numbers of student visas and the old of 1476 thousands due old laws of 1476 thousands due to visas appears to be a little bit of a mixed reaction. it comes likely a lot of comes to how likely a lot of these people are to and or bring family well, it's family over. well, it's an interesting point student interesting point on student visas. interesting visas. an interesting point because a big problem because we had a big problem with visas ten years with student visas ten years ago or lots of people were or so when lots of people were coming for these fake university . oh, yeah, you know, english study classes that were springing up. well, shop windows, they said, you know, engush windows, they said, you know, english lessons , people were english lessons, people were applying and saying they were coming to study english and then they would just skedaddle off into amazing how many university there were in 11 government. did but the government eventually got wise to that and they were

closed down. for the most part. it be interesting to see now if there has been a resurgence in some to some degree all that kind of process of trying to circumvent the student visa program another issue of course, was student visas is many that had been on the student visas that have then returned home were just disappearing off working in the illegal economy as . well, yes, absolutely. as. well, yes, absolutely. there's layers to this and layers that we're going to pick apart over the course this next houn apart over the course this next hour, i want to know or hour, because i want to know or not, people think that britain can actually cope because it's going with rebuilding, going to come with rebuilding, building where are people infrastructure where are people going people going to live? how are people going to live? how are people going things ? it comes going to access things? it comes to practises schools, etc. to gp practises schools, etc. what's it really going to mean for britain and all? we actually attracting people who we want in attracting people who we want in a sense. just hear me out on is it high levels of immigration or was it a lot of people saturating the lower end of the market. it does come as an employment figures are essentially rise well. essentially set to rise as well. but i want to hear the home

secretary at least read secretary here or at least read what to say. bear in mind, what she's to say. bear in mind, mrs. suella braverman. this same suella initially suella braverman that initially quit his job under liz quit his job under the liz truss, face of it, truss, least on the face of it, because she some emails that she shouldn't have sent to of staff and that didn't the right and people that didn't the right security but security services but realistically lot of realistically as well a lot of that because disagreed that was because she disagreed with growth with liz truss is going growth ambition that included not doing anything to cut levels of net legal migration and now we are wallop suella braverman got this half a million people in net migration. more than half a million people. well, how home you reacted to these record migration figures? here's what she had to say. said the she had to say. she said the pubuc she had to say. she said the public rightly expects us to control borders. remain control our borders. we remain committed migration committed to reducing migration time in line , our manifesto time in line, our manifesto commitment. we must ensure we have a sustainable, balanced and approach, which is we continue to keep our immigration policies under review. she continued, my priority remains trafficking. the rise in dangerous and early crossings. on stopping the abuse our system. it is vital we

pubuc our system. it is vital we public confidence and take back control our borders. but a lot of people are saying this is just heart because for how long now ? if we've been saying people now? if we've been saying people say, well, we need take control of our borders, who needs to do this? need to do that? and mark, when you at the fact that we might have a city this of bradford coming to united kingdom every single where kingdom every single year where on all of these people. on us put all of these people. well there is doubt there is well there is no doubt there is a huge strain local authorities right and down the country in right up and down the country in trying to house them but to provide services for we were provide the services for we were in this week where we in blackpool this week where we saw just the effect that that is having on homeless people there sleeping rough on the streets . sleeping rough on the streets. there's all kinds of complex reasons why people become rough and it doesn't necessarily that they're being denied a place to live. sometimes yes. and often they choose to be on the streets, but they do require very high levels of wraparound care to make sure that they're okay and that they're being looked after in terms of health

and drug or drink services of the above. and when you have authorities who are really feeling a budgetary strain at this time, it's difficult for them do that. one leader of a local authority can't teach you to say that with children they were having to find another million to deal with that. it's just very real problem . it just very real problem. it absolutely. it absolutely . and absolutely. it absolutely. and one that's not going away any time soon. now i do say that i want to hear from you and today is no different. i'm going to go to the emails now essentially are you happy when it comes to this volume of people entering the every year the country every single year would it meant would you be happy if it meant that we looked better on a spreadsheet in terms growth the jury spreadsheet in terms growth the jury as whether not it jury is out as to whether not it does frankly or all you does that frankly or all you have me that have to wait like me that britain is frankly just becoming have to wait like me that b ploli is frankly just becoming have to wait like me that b plot of frankly just becoming have to wait like me that b plot of landzly just becoming have to wait like me that b plot of land with st becoming have to wait like me that b plot of land with an)ecoming have to wait like me that b plot of land with an economy a plot of land with an economy and no sense of identity or , and no sense of identity or, nationality or culture . and it's nationality or culture. and it's a bit of a free for all for

everybody. both and illegal. i that i'll go to the end box and i'm going to do it because bernard has been in such main reason for brexit was the governance, ourselves and free movement i see why movement of people. i see why we can't illegal immigrants in can't put illegal immigrants in more this more detention centres. this would solve the hotel cost issue. well okay. right. look, i take point, but it wouldn't take your point, but it wouldn't necessarily hotel necessarily solve the hotel issue to pay issue because have to pay for the detention centres but the detention centres way. but bernard, led to on bernard, you have led me to on we're debate on we're having a big debate on very right here on this very shortly right here on this , which is if you voted for brexit is this what you voted for? has been a brexit for? has there been a brexit betrayal. we actually lost betrayal. have we actually lost control our borders? lesley's control of our borders? lesley's own it was theresa own lesley says it was theresa may bill modern slavery may the bill of modern slavery through now high numbers of these illegals using that excuse to say our very i'm not why to say well our very i'm not why i said just some of these i said just that some of these from the illegal side of things. well actually to qualify well actually i want to qualify that actually 72,000 asylum applications not all of these from the channel and not all of those illegal is imposed. some people are granted asylum. of course, 72,000 this year, 13,600. our baby is of those , 99

13,600. our baby is of those, 99 0% of albanian men are not granted asylum. so just 10% are. then what they do. a lot of them anyway came that they were here to modern slavery through human trafficking, which i find remarkable considering that if you've someone tens you've paid someone tens of thousands to bring you thousands of pounds to bring you somewhere, on earth can you somewhere, how on earth can you claim were trafficked? claim that you were trafficked? but go. am, but there you go. i am, of course not lawyer. david, very course not a lawyer. david, very lastly on emails, david says if you were trafficked, surely wouldn't rescued, wouldn't want to be rescued, returned that go returned safely. that we go anyway. back on to anyway. moving back on to something . stay tuned for that something. stay tuned for that debate on this. by the way record levels of net migration . record levels of net migration. politicians westminster politicians at westminster are blocking calls for a second scottish independence referendum because outcome. that's because fear the outcome. that's according to nicholas sturgeon. she queen's on the day she made the queen's on the day after supreme court ruled she made the queen's on the day aftescottish preme court ruled she made the queen's on the day aftescottish parliament: ruled she made the queen's on the day aftescottish parliament doesj she made the queen's on the day aftescottish parliament does not the scottish parliament does not have the power to legislate for a vote independence without the agreement of westminster. joining me now is gb news is political olivia. olivia thank political. olivia. olivia thank you very much. i find it fascinating that nicola sturgeon is so obsessed with democracy despite the fact that they had a

referendum 2014. didn't go referendum in 2014. it didn't go her. she wants another one now. and she wants to remove the public's to democratic public's right to democratic general election, making it all about single issue and that being independence . not very being independence. not very democratic, if you ask me. so she's decided that the supreme court has ruled that she can't the referendum that she wanted. she's using that as a platform to claim that. westminster is essentially blocking scottish democracy and thereby freeing her to turn the next general election. a social issue thing about independence , there's a about independence, there's a question mark over she'll be able to do that. she mentioned in her statement that she did that she said yes today that there were some constitu additional issues with that which in smp is apparently looking into sort of kicking the road down the kicking the can down the road on that one. politically, it's going to be quite difficult to do that as well because obviously we that there lots of domestic there are lots of domestic issues that's facing scotland at

the . you've nhs the moment. you've got the nhs in even worse crisis than england is by some measures. you've got schools are performing particularly well you've got drug deaths which is a permanent problem which is rumbling on. and then obviously you've got ferries disaster. so the unionist position i've spoken to conservative tory, scottish mp and msps who think that people just won't accept . that people just won't accept. a general election turning into a referendum , want answers to the referendum, want answers to the domestic problems that are facing them and their families , facing them and their families, and they think that sturgeon will lose this election stroke referendum and that'll be the end of her career. referendum and that'll be the end of her career . and we'll end of her career. and we'll actually put to bed the question of independence for a while. obviously she's giving yourself a complete get out of jail card both ways because what she's going to do she's going to say, well, this election is just on the referendum, means our the referendum, which means our completely other that completely ignore the other that i my own health care i found my own health care system, system and system, our education system and my rights and just ignore my trans rights and just ignore all that and just vote on

all of that and just vote on independence . and then if it independence. and then if it doesn't work out for which obviously because the vast obviously will, because the vast majority of people will vote anyway, if it doesn't anyway, probably if it doesn't vote for that, that she can go well. vote along well. people vote along political not political lines. so it's not definitively mean , look, definitively true. i mean, look, it's true politics, even if, frankly think most people can see olivia, thank you see through. olivia, thank you very little early very much a little bit early that is political that gb news is political reporter me now is the reporterjoining me now is the general of alba general secretary of the alba party. mcelhinney . party. it's chris mcelhinney. thank you very much, chris. great to have you on the. now were in a bit of a tricky were you in a bit of a tricky position because you wanted fair enough don't want enough but you don't want nicholas sturgeon. so are you going to ask people vote for going to ask people to vote for the and then stagecoach who the snp and then stagecoach who ouster . no, the snp and then stagecoach who ouster. no, no, not at all. well i think we should abandon the of scotland voted overwhelmingly at three successive elections. no to hold a referendum. it's completely on the democratic of the uk government. not to be in that position. but obviously we have an action election , have to use an action election, a de facto referendum. we would be on a single and be calling on a single and dependence candidate and every candidate across the country so

that when people go to vote, then those one independence candidate so that we don't split the vote. but does that work in reality? let's just say we ought a policy in this country that had a single issue. so let's just say that the labour party said i'm holding this referendum i'm sorry, this general election entirely on the notion of you agreeing with our health policy . so if you agree with what we stand for on the nhs, this is a you would have to vote for us but they want us to do things like rejoin the european union have many female prisons and not sort out their own health . but sort out their own health. but that what sorry , their own that what sorry, their own education system, i should say. how that actually work because that's essentially what snp and indeed yourselves asking indeed yourselves are asking for, isn't it? well, i know that people in england perhaps sometimes understand sometimes don't understand difference between reserve models and devolved models because you don't devolution because you don't devolution because the bond parliament because of the bond parliament will as an english parliament but a general elections on reserve models and of the uk supreme court that the constitu

as a reserve model then that's you know an appropriate place then they hold that election . then they hold that election. that's why we think it should be a scotland because absolutely the role of domestic issues that are many of the scottish government. i'm not of the policies and i think that's they're all to just ask people to vote the snp to vote for independence people to be independence people need to be about people the votes are only about people the votes are only about and not about domestic policies which political correspondent dress and of maybe skills fatties but my role should scotland be an independent country and of the public. independent country and of the pubuc.so independent country and of the public. so yeah, just just on just on that it's all very well and good doing the old nationalistic flag waving. and let's be honest, there was a lot of that going by brexit as well. i for brexit, you know. i voted for brexit, you know. yeah, okay. understand all of yeah, okay. i understand all of that. in the practical that. but in the practical realities you guys realities where you guys are now, whatever returns the now, whatever returns to the scottish have a country, scottish people have a country, it will run by nicholas sturgeon and independence run by nicholas sturgeon will better than what they've got now because as far as i can see, the evidence

suggests that absolutely what that i was laughing that that i was i was laughing that you were a bit you were going a bit nationalistic love flag because you were going a bit nelooksistic love flag because you were going a bit nelooks like love flag because you were going a bit nelooks like thee flag because you were going a bit nelooks like the backdrop ause you were going a bit nelooks like the backdrop your it looks like the backdrop your channels but you know channels union jack but you know if you back to 2019 that it was a single issue it was get brexit done on uk government with a minority of the votes but a majority of seats took the united kingdom. the european. so it seems that you want to have your cake and you won't eat it. you want to see that again. election can be used take election can be used to take scotland the european union, but by a referendum. by denying is a referendum. we can't a general election to demand and call for independence. i think you need demand and call for inrhave dence. i think you need demand and call for inrhave aznce. i think you need demand and call for inrhave a morei think you need demand and call for inrhave a more consistent need to have a more consistent approach . well, an approach. well, it's an interesting point, obviously, but i just wonder whether not actually would work in actually it would work in practical yes. one of practical reality. yes. one of the things about getting brexit out of the european union, conservatives said, okay, well, we'll this manifesto that we'll have this manifesto that if vote for back in the if you vote for us back in the coming year, then we'll hold a and they held them to that. but that was part of as well that was as part of as well a much wider package. people much wider package. and people people by definition were told if vote for us, this is the

if you vote for us, this is the big issue. this the issue of the day . it was big issue. this the issue of the day. it was more of an aside, which is a lot of people were quite surprised. david cameron actually said, yeah, go on then, let's have you guys are let's have but you guys are making front centre. and making it front and centre. and that really key point of that is a really key point of difference. yeah, well here's a good example. let's see what footfall uk stood in a footfall in the uk stood in a general election without manifesto commitment before the referendum on the european union membership, and then european union told them they can't have a referendum on leaving the union. mean i think that democrats across . yep. no. yeah democrats across. yep. no. yeah no not for no sorry. no if we just had it now if we just had a referendum in 2014 do you vote. the referendum is what you vote saying you lost it. move on. yeah but you know democracies stop just for one day. what's focus of fighting to force the people scotland to remain in people in scotland to remain in the eu? we know if it with it more prime ministers the last couple and the couple of months and the idea for 25 years of my life you know britain's, absolutely is a democratic and things democratic structure and things

have quite changed . have quite clearly changed. people are quite people in scotland are quite right a choice. your job right to a choice. your job cause tough luck. thank you very much to have you on the show. have you come back very, very soon, chris mcnally, that is general secretary of party. general secretary of a party. what make that, ladies what do you make that, ladies and it? cbb and gentlemen, get into it? cbb is gbnews.uk with me is a gbnews.uk you are with me patrick coming up with patrick christys coming up with thousands the thousands of workers on the picket around country picket lines around the country . about to experience . are we about to experience general strike in open? and i want to ask the big question are all of this me? which is one thing is we better or worse under a labour government? labour very, very all labour very, very quiet on all of get graeme of this. let's get graeme stringer labour mp why stringer shortly. labour mp why does politics and why does does his politics and why does he i'll back in a he stand on it? i'll back in a sec .

okay welcome back. it's the business end of this show now. tens of thousands of workers have picketed schools, universities and royal mail

centres today. and disputes over pay ' centres today. and disputes over pay , jobs and conditions worth , pay, jobs and conditions worth, noting he's not just overpaid in is fast becoming a general strike in all but name. we're going to get nurses walking out. we're going to get firemen and women a modern world. and of course railways have. course, what the railways have. meanwhile, main players in meanwhile, the main players in that dispute also met to that rail dispute also met to try to get negotiations back on track another round of track ahead of another round of strikes over christmas and strikes just over christmas and new know a happy time, new day. you know a happy time, a be with family. it's a time to be with family. it's time for small businesses to go in, the first in, earn across the first a couple of of misery . oh couple of years of misery. oh here mick grinch anyway here comes mick grinch anyway that to cost us that we go it's going to cost us billions billions of pounds. billions and billions of pounds. speaking after today's talks with secretary rmt with the transport secretary rmt general secretary mick grinch lynch did actually say that a dialogue has now opened . i would dialogue has now opened. i would say it is a positive meeting in the we've rid of the the sense that we've rid of the bellicose nonsense that we used to had from grant shapps his cohorts. it is era and we're now starting to get a dialogue so what we're hoping and what mr. harper committed to is giving us

an outcome from meeting, which will be a letter to me and we've said it's no good having these warm. we've heard them from his predecessor anne—marie trevelyan but nothing happened. so we want to sit down in writing what he's going do about the mechanics of how a resolution will facilitated ? yeah, fascinating facilitated? yeah, fascinating stuff. that's because mick lynch said that he was sick of the bellicose rhetoric bellicose meaning militant i would argue one could argue anyway, couldn't they that threatening to shut down a country , put businesses down a country, put businesses out of business and cost the billions of pounds in the run up to what supposed to be a happy and festive. rather and festive. it's rather militant and also say that you would support a general strike us as rather militant. but there we go. and also worth noting, we actually not currently know actually do not currently know what wants because he what mick lynch wants because he won't me now is won't tell us. joining me now is graham who's graham stringer, who's the labour for blackley and labour mp for blackley and broughton so thank you broughton graham. so thank you very much. now you visited royal mail picket line this mail on the picket line this morning, didn't you? is keir starmer going over with you

about that he doesn't lie? labour mp is going to the lines, does he ? i very much doubt that does he? i very much doubt that a word with me about it. i mean the point you made is completely sensible point . keir starmer sensible point. keir starmer expects to be prime minister under some time, whether it's this year or next year or the year after he called for members of shadow cabinet who could , in of shadow cabinet who could, in a position where they're negotiating , they can't negotiating, they can't negotiate with themselves , can't negotiate with themselves, can't on the one hand, beyond the picket line and on the other hand the management. one of the problems with the rail situation is that the government are not allowing the management of the train operating companies to move . so they are standing move. so they are standing behind those, but not actively negotiating. i'm a labour mp though my constituent is right. we're on strike today. i went to see . i wish them well. they've see. i wish them well. they've got a genuine case . very angry

got a genuine case. very angry people. but this. there is a slight points of difference, if you'll forgive me, because my own just stunning is that the royal mail a pretty about what it is that they want and areas mick lynch stands on a platform and says i'm going to grind britain to a halt and this britain to a halt and cos this economy billions of economy tens of billions of pounds. oh don't worry. i've got full support. how can the full public support. how can the pubuc full public support. how can the public support something? they've what he they've got no idea what he wants. greg smith on wants. i have greg smith on early, conservative transport early, a conservative transport select committee member who said to that understanding is to me that his understanding is that lynch wants something that mick lynch wants something basically unattainable way above inflation . if the public knew inflation. if the public knew that they wouldn't support it it . again, i've been on rmt i picket lines to talk to those workers. unsurprisingly in some ways in the news in the university there were some people who run an exam board who on strike. i think you saw them all in the background there. there is real anger. the government to have one rules for

themselves both during covid and since then made many of their friends really and working in the railways and royal mail and lecturers teachers nurses of all fall behind. and that's the commonality of what's happening. we've got a government ruining the economy in a very very way. well, i'm going to you say ruining the economy. i mean, a lot of the damage done to our economy was during which labour wanted harder faster, stronger lockdowns, didn't they? but i wish that went back. i just want to whether on whether to ask about whether on whether you or you you did. whether or not you think things will be worse in terms strikes or better under a government because there is that trope the labour is in the back pocket of the unions i'm reading here, you know, affiliated unions pay an annual fee to the labour party. in return they elect 13 of the 39 members of labour's and ac 50% of the

delegates to labour party conference . mick lynch wants conference. mick lynch wants a labour government because he can control it . it just come back on control it. it just come back on covid. some of it's made the point then that a great deal of money was wasted to no purpose . money was wasted to no purpose. choose your marriage. 37 and a half billion on tests tries to no effect. i agree. i differed with my own leadership on that. but those chickens have home to roost now . the structure of the roost now. the structure of the labour party has been as it is now, for more than 100 and 120 years or so . there's no c, years or so. there's no c, there's no secret. so the relationship with the trade unions , i think to answer your unions, i think to answer your point directly, i think the relationships be better because .labour relationships be better because . labour would talk to the trade unions. what's happened particularly on rail but also with royal mail is that government have made the judgements that we're living in 1979 in a political on the trade you will them votes and i think

they're wrong but both women's but you can't have it both ways so haven't been resolved going you can't have it both ways because . keir starmer is not because. keir starmer is not telling us what he really feels because he's trying to play both sides of the fence he doesn't want to come out in favour of the strike because an ordinary working men and women who are in the would want the unions would just want to not come favour of them not come out in favour of them because the unions and so because in the unions and so he's just on the fence so hard he's just on the fence so hard he's got splinters. he no, i don't so. he's that he don't think so. he's that he wants it resolved. he wants negotiations to take place. the fact is, as mike lynch said your previous interview . i can't previous interview. i can't remember . maybe previous interview. i can't remember. maybe you can remember how many secretaries of state for transport. yeah. yeah over those loads . yeah. revolving those loads. yeah. revolving doon those loads. yeah. revolving door. yeah they wouldn't talk to the unions, they wouldn't negotiate . this current negotiate. this current secretary of at least has made some to negotiating. they using it. they were using trade unions as a political football. and i

actual fact i've been with workers who are on strike and every car that passes to city hall in support. okay all right if you say . hall in support. okay all right if you say. thank you very much graeme great to have you on the show. i do always enjoy all little back and forth. graeme stringer, who is labour mp for, blackley and broad, so they go. what make that, ladies what do you make of that, ladies and you are with me, and gentlemen, you are with me, you patrick christys on gb news a slight shift in here, a slight shift in tone here, harry kane's play as he harry kane's fit to play as he states america on friday, states of america on friday, after injury scare. do think, after injury scare. i do think, well, maybe stop well, maybe should stop him anyway. well, i've the latest on gareth southgate's three lions next. topped next. and yes, migration topped half a that's been our big story today. half a that's been our big story today . i will ask whether or not today. i will ask whether or not we can manage with such large numbers coming to the uk. what's the driving force? can the major driving force? can britain cope ? have a debate on britain cope? have a debate on that? but the first is, as i said last . patrick you. good

said last. patrick you. good afternoon. it's 534. i'm bethany elsie in the gb newsroom, the home secretary says she is committed to reducing levels of migration as the number entering the uk has hit its highest level since the second world war office for national statistics data shows 504,000 more people move to the uk than in the year to june . it beats the previous to june. it beats the previous record of 390,000 and in 2015, suella braverman said the rise has driven by ukrainians fleeing , the war and the evacuation from afghanistan . the chair of from afghanistan. the chair of a safeguarding board that dealt with the case of a five year old boy in wales. he was murdered by his family has apologised for systemic issues logan mwangi died in july year after months of abuse at the hands of his mother stepfather and stepbrother, he was given life earlier this year a review into how the board handled his case found he was failed authorities who didn't report his injuries.

120 people have been arrested in uk's biggest fraud sting . the uk's biggest fraud sting. the global operation brought down a website which helped criminals thousands of victims of millions of pounds . the site generated of pounds. the site generated a spoof phone which made it look as if calls being made from banks. as if calls being made from banks . around 70,000 potential banks. around 70,000 potential victims will be sent a text asking them to police and the rmt asked the government for help in resolving dispute with train companies. the union's general secretary mick lynch has been holding talks with. the transport secretary, after announcing a fresh round of strikes over the festive period . he described the meeting with mark harper as positive, but he hasn't ruled out further. industrial action . you're up to industrial action. you're up to date on tv, online and derby, plus radio , this is gb news. now plus radio, this is gb news. now let's get back to .

let's get back to. patrick well , chair let's get back to. patrick well, chair of a safeguarding board that dealt with the case of a five year old boy in wales who was murdered by his family, has apologised for systemic issues over . has apologised for systemic issues over. bringing that a little bit later on, just it was worth noting that , it was worth noting that, it was obviously a case really that gnpped obviously a case really that gripped the nation earlier on. so we're going to talking so we're going to be talking about bit on about that little bit later on in one the other latest. but in one of the other latest. but as you see on the screen as you can see on the screen there right now, it's the guitar world cup because star england striker is fit play striker kane is fit to play against states. against united states. on friday, match of friday, in the second match of the world cup group the qatar world cup group stages. that need him, stages. not that we'll need him, because, we'll them because, of course we'll them anyway. fears that he anyway. after fears that he could miss the charges with ankle injuries second ankle injuries in the second half. really testing the half. i mean, really testing the theory kane theory that harry kane could play theory that harry kane could play one and still beat play with one leg and still beat that us back line anyway . i am that us back line anyway. i am joined yes. live doha. it's joined now. yes. live doha. it's our man in the souk. joined now. yes. live doha. it's our man in the souk . i don't our man in the souk. i don't know if he's still in the souk. actually just works. well, actually it just works. well, yes. in the gets paul yes. he's in the suit. gets paul hawkins. good stuff, paul. i was watching with interest your own

footballing watching with interest your own foo gb lling watching with interest your own foogblling see watching with interest your own foo gblling see you've got watching with interest your own foogblling see you've got a on gb news see you've got a pretty sweet right foot on you . pretty sweet right foot on you. yeah. oh left for even i'm left footed but yeah it's too bad they've still got both , as they they've still got both, as they say, five yards. and you had to know that. i we should have seen toby, the cameraman had my word he lasted at 125 comes as an hour. he lasted at 125 comes as an hour . people he lasted at 125 comes as an hour. people on the side were applauding and shouting . carlos applauding and shouting. carlos anyway , that's what we were up anyway, that's what we were up to. you're one of the many interact same kind of things that the going on here in qatar for the world cup right now. at the moment, though, portugal taking on and it's going taking on ghana and it's going go crazy there, 77 minutes gone. it's currently portugal , go crazy there, 77 minutes gone. it's currently portugal, ghana, one cristiano ronaldo becoming the first player to score a five world cups, getting the first. he's also become the second oldest player to score the world cup after roger me. i remember him for cameroon age 42 in 1990. so portugal leading ghana to one at the moment, that one later on, brazil taking , on serbia on, brazil taking, on serbia earlier beat cameroon, one nil

and south korea and uruguay finish goalless tomorrow . so, of finish goalless tomorrow. so, of course, england and wales are back. action. let's work backwards through the day. start with a late kick off tomorrow p m qatar time england take on england take on the usa. i should say harry kane will be fit that one. he'll definitely be fit for that one that's been confirmed by the manager gareth southgate today in press conference. the only selection dilemma is will he pick kyle walker he's fit from but walker. he's back fit from but not match fit he's been out for a while for manchester city so some dilemmas there gareth southgate who by the way the manager has been talking about i've listened to this when he first took over, it was very similar to the position that that i've just took over you know trying to reshape the identity of the team , you know, identity of the team, you know, refocus it working with a younger group of so in that case very similar his record in major tournaments been outstanding and

there's no denying that you know fourth place finish at 2018 second place finish at the euros so done a great job with his team . you know they got off to a team. you know they got off to a great and they're a formidable opponent. it's going to be difficult game for us . yeah. so difficult game for us. yeah. so that one kicks off at 10:00 tomorrow night on early kick off the one that's the 1:00 local time. so it's going to really hot is wales against iran . we hot is wales against iran. we know that gareth bale he plays he will play of course by he's wales top scorer he's their captain he plays that will make 110 caps who become wales most capped most outfield player. and so this is what had to say about that earlier today because the level is it's an amazing achievement , an honour to achievement, an honour to represent country so many times . but like i said , it's more . but like i said, it's more important that we try and get the victory tomorrow and hopefully we can and i'll make it even more special . i know

it even more special. i know it's going to be a difficult game. iran, they're a very good team. they're at the world cup for a reason . yes gareth bale for a reason. yes gareth bale saying don't underestimate iran. they'll want to have a big reaction to that huge defeat by england the other day also mentioned joe allen, one of wales top midfielders . mentioned joe allen, one of wales top midfielders. he hasn't played for swansea because injury he's now back and we're pretty certain given how crucial he is to wales that rob page will start with him and the latest on that portugal against ghana as the qatar and saudi arabia fans are being frank it's just fans from everywhere it looks like there's a few brazilians in that cup. it's a fine train. everybody it's a fan train . but the latest is the train. but the latest is the current match at the moment . 7 current match at the moment. 7 minutes to go. it's portugal three. ghana . fantastic. you three. ghana. fantastic. you love. it just depends . isaac the love. it just depends. isaac the absolute chaos of the world cup.

thank you very much. well the good stuff, kids. that's a fun train. everybody for kids and kids our our money in this good grief way . oh, right. okay. well grief way. oh, right. okay. well we're moving on for that now. a bit of a shift in time, people, something a lot more serious anyway , because throughout the anyway, because throughout the show we have discussing the show we have been discussing the immigration yes. in immigration figures. yes. in case it. net case you missed it. net migration than half migration has hit more than half a people last according a million people last according to home office record to the home office record numbers , suella has numbers, suella braverman has responded figures saying responded to the figures saying that priority remains that her priority remains tackling rise dangerous tackling the rise in dangerous and illegal crossings. i'm not sure many people sure how many people believe that not necessarily that anymore. not necessarily from floors the way, but from her floors the way, but potentially from some potentially just from some limits in what she can actually do. but yesterday, when asked about ways to about safe and legal ways to come to the uk , the home come to the uk, the home secretary struggled to . answer. secretary struggled to. answer. if are able to get to the if you are able to get to the uk, you are able to put in an application for asylum. i would auen application for asylum. i would alien the uk illegally then alien to the uk illegally then would know well that that if you put your application for upon put in your application for upon that would be process that you

enter . okay so that was enter. okay so that was yesterday the figures that dropped today were that we've got net migration to the uk 500, 4000, five and 4000, which this means as well. 200,000 of that was from ukraine, which was part of a resettlement program. we also have to add as well . the also have to add as well. the hongkongers and the people from afghanistan all of which many people out there believe have a complete legal and duty towards also a bit of a boom given the fact that now we're a couple of years on from the coronavirus legislation will have seen a bit of a boost. but the numbers still very high. a lot of people in inbox, tb views and anger in my inbox, tb views and anger , just saying where do we put all these people? they're not happy at the that this is placing on services. but we cannot get around it right now. people we have record levels of both legal and illegal into united kingdom record levels of asylum claims as well. 72,000 asylum claims as well. 72,000 asylum applications apparently

currently on going, but is the distinct lack of legal routes in order for people to claim asylum into the uk actually causing a massive could we do something differently that . joining me now differently that. joining me now is former special advisor to the home office on the immigration minister is so on. director of the centre for migration and prosperity stephen, great stuff, right clare , i will start with right clare, i will start with you if that's so arms, grant you my hand is to why we have record numbers of illegal immigration , numbers of illegal immigration, asylum applications. from what i can from net migration can see from net migration figures claim just just figures just claim just just just come here legally and we'll let you in. well, i mean , i let you in. well, i mean, i think that's half the problem is that when you look at the figures, the bespoke schemes that were put up there, all for those fleeing ukraine, those coming in from afghanistan and hong kongers who are entitled to british citizenship . so if you british citizenship. so if you don't fall into those , then you don't fall into those, then you don't fall into those, then you don't have a chance to apply under rules. the rest of the figures, quite interestingly

made up of students, which is not surprise that there has been an increase in those given that the travel restrictions have been removed after covid 19. so you can understand that people are back to studying in the uk. they're not doing it virtually anymore. so i think it's a little bit early to suggest that this will be an increase that continues over time. i think that we will see those numbers settle down. but there certainly aren't any safe legal routes for asylum seekers out of any other country in place at the moment. okay stephen, i'll start with you. i was sort of maybe on you, i should say, because people are saying this is a massive of brexit. it's a huge of brexit. is it ? yes, absolutely. it's is it? yes, absolutely. it's failure of the government to be able control both legal and illegal migration. it's a failure to be able deal with asylum. and the problem it now is the voters look at the conservative party and you're no longer a of low taxation , you're longer a of low taxation, you're no longer a party of managing

businesses and looking after them , and you're no longer them, and you're no longer a party controlling immigration . party controlling immigration. and they've lost three key pillars of what it is to be an actual concern, which is when you're looking at these, these numbers will continue to be higher. and clare talks about the numbers up. the government has relaxed its policy on students . you're seeing a 71% students. you're seeing a 71% increase in the number of students so they're coming here. when you look at the kong program we're offering 2.25 million people. the opportunity to come to the uk if. million people. the opportunity to come to the uk if . they want to come to the uk if. they want to, under that scheme and of course there's no control of illegal migration over the channel or on the backs of lorries. yeah, well look you mentioned the channel that clare is . nobody mentioned the channel that clare is. nobody want to go. people say, look, we just want to turn these boats back or we just want to send them back to france or whatever. another could to whatever. another could be to have safe legal ways in have safe and legal ways in which can claim asylum abroad .

which can claim asylum abroad. because if we've seen some of these figures come which these figures come through which we is that 90% of we are, which is that 90% of albanian men who have tried to claim asylum here in the last year have been turned down. if they knew that britain wasn't essentially just a plot of land, that was a free for all for people and they had to apply asylum in their own country, then they have bothered to make then they have bothered to make the journey would that. the journey anyway. would that. well really well i think that's really important it's something important and it's something that for some that i've advocated for some time need to look at time is that you need to look at where are coming and have where people are coming and have places set up already across the globe it's going to require some from eu countries or from the middle east and asia to put in these . but certainly like the these. but certainly like the refugee that you already see in places like and greece, if unhcr can manage those refugee application lines, i'm sure that we can work them to provide some kind of processing centre and you remove that need for people to travel across , make that to travel across, make that horrible journey between over and ends up on our shores . you

and ends up on our shores. you remove that pull away if they can make that application now, it may be that they're not eligible for entry into the uk and that's fine they may if they are seeking a safe country actually that they are all welcome in a different it could be belgium, it could be germany, it could be canada . there are it could be canada. there are many, many options open to this. it's not just saying apply over there and you will get is to have their claim assessed a safe manner. yeah, absolutely , manner. yeah, absolutely, stephen. are you concerned about breakdown in the united kingdom ? certainly am. okay year might have been a blip when it comes to the half a million net migration, but the fact you've got net migration in the hundreds of, thousands, it's never going to be in the tens of thousands. we're not building enough enough enough homes. we're not enough new haven't new properties. we haven't got enough not building enough jeeps. we're not building enough jeeps. we're not building enough. enough jeeps. we're not building enough . we risk because. enough. we are at risk because. the will collapse, are we the sites will collapse, are we not? to struggle , not? we're going to struggle, without a doubt, and b, we already pressures on already see pressures on hospitals, schools education, housing . but the idea that housing. but the idea that you've got these safe and legal

routes will be solution is nonsense. actually frankly. first of all, if britain did it be the only country in the world that did so. no other country, particularly out of the 20 countries that receive it. last yean countries that receive it. last year, we 206 countries represented in those who applied for asylum . 64 people applied for asylum. 64 people applied for asylum. 64 people applied for asylum. 64 people applied for asylum . the united states for asylum. the united states alone. looks holland. finland just to name some of the countries that you wouldn't never imagine that would go on to the countries that are the top afghanistan iraq iran . top afghanistan iraq iran. somalia. do you really think that will actually be cheering up and saying we don't want to come to the uk? of course they want to come to the uk and if is the only country offering safe with some sort of council or organisation in that country where they come. do you where they can come. do you think they'll be going to. the eu is not going to offer it. france certainly going france certainly are never going to and legal parts of to offer safe and legal parts of their country because won't their country because i won't even them to come back even allow them to come back when channel. on when they go to the channel. on the on first place.

the channel, on first place. oh, very quickly, got very quickly, because have got to shortly. alexis, can to move on shortly. alexis, can you ? yeah. i mean, it's you hide? yeah. i mean, it's because if you offer safe legal routes doesn't mean you're going to that leave to offer that person leave to enter united kingdom. so i think that's really to remember they could get somewhere else or both of thank you very much as ever great stuff. that was a wonderful former special adviser , home office and the immigration minister claire pearsall and equally pearsall and the equally wonderful and stephen wolf there, of course a fan favourite here on gmb and he's director of the centre for migration unweakened roaming prosperity rights . been unweakened roaming prosperity rights. been bit of a whizz rights. been a bit of a whizz through here from through here now emails from a freedom of information request suggest top scientists were suggest that top scientists were warned that 19 could have evolved in a laboratory, but they collaborated in a paper which shut down the lovely theory . a lot of this you heard theory. a lot of this you heard right. i wanted to leave it to last. they say save the best till last. do you think that the lab leak theory when it comes to covid has got some credence? if it doesn't, why was there a cover up? i'll be in a moment.

okay. we're going to have to. russell this, ladies and gentlemen, because i have run of time, as per usual, a report has alleged that top scientists, including sir patrick vallance, his business chief scientific advisor, were warned that covid 19 could have started in a lab in china but potentially help to cover that . that's basically all cover that. that's basically all of the gist of it that you need to because going to go to know because i'm going to go now to guest on very now over to my guest on very issue. thank you very much i am joined oncologists at st georges hospital in professor angus dalgleish . right angus the long dalgleish. right angus the long in, the short of it is that it does that the uk and indeed the world's top scientists will, that the coronavirus might have started in a lab in china and they actively tried to cover that up. is that true? yes it is

totally true. and i know to be the case because i was an author , one of the papers that spotted the fact that this virus could not possibly have jumped from a bat to a human. it had too many pieces of engineering in it, which were very obvious . one of which were very obvious. one of these was seen by other people , these was seen by other people, and they tried to explain it away , could have come by chance away, could have come by chance . but we pointed out that there were several bits of engineering in that virus to make far more attractive to jump onto human and in fact they did and this was no coincidence why would they want to cover it ? that is they want to cover it? that is question i've been asking myself all the time. we felt it was important to realise this because we believe proposition it has a major effect on. the vaccine you're going to make against it. you need to be aware that this was not natural virus and, that that should have been taken into consideration which it was not okay . alright now it was not okay. alright now look, i'm very sorry this so short and sweet, dr. angus, i

would like to get you back on that maybe or early week to talk about this. i really appreciate you at least putting that side across think it's fascinating. this something that i was this is something that i was pretty was maybe the case pretty sure was maybe the case for very long time. it for a very, very long time. it now appears confirmation. now appears have confirmation. but statements but i have got two statements here the government's here from the government's office which office for science, which is said scientific sorry, the said the scientific sorry, the government scientific government chief scientific adviser that policies adviser ensures that policies and decisions informed by and decisions are informed by the scientific to promote the best scientific to promote full and an open exchange of ideas , scientific opinion as ideas, scientific opinion as email exchange reflects that we go that is that responding to the idea that potentially it was revealed to the uk stop that covid may be started in a and they did their best to cover it up, but tell you what, we're going to go to dewbs& co now. it isn't with james and co is with the wonderful carver, emily, what's coming up on your show? thanks going be looking at thanks going to be looking at that of immigrants of that huge of immigrants that of in country over the last in this country over the last year practically the size liverpool or manchester has been to our population in just one

yean to our population in just one year, we're also going to be looking at gp's. should they be and shamed not having enough and shamed for not having enough in—person appointments and the government saying it's our responsibility to cut down on our energy use . do you agree or our energy use. do you agree or do think it's their fault? do you think it's their fault? oh, there we go. fantastic alright, emily carville will be with next hour. with you for the next hour. don't dare turn that. don't you dare turn from that. that's it me in afternoon. that's it for me in afternoon. you've and you've been watching and listening patrick christie's. you've been watching and liwilling patrick christie's. you've been watching and liwill be patrick christie's. you've been watching and liwill be backitrick christie's. you've been watching and liwill be back tomorrow ;tie's. you've been watching and liwill be back tomorrow from 3 i will be back tomorrow from 3 pm. yes, that's right. i will be back tomorrow from 3 pm. yes, that's right . you pm. yes, that's right. you heard tomorrow from 3 pm. there's a little bit of a schedule shake up. next up, though, course, it is the though, of course, it is the wonderful emily hello wonderful emily cup. hello there. with your latest there. i'm with your latest weather update for the next few hours. that weather front clears towards the east with blustery showers to follow. there are wind and rain warnings in force until 7 pm. across wales and england. but the front does clear but that low pressure system delivering showers and also gales further west but it will towards the north all change friday. quieter conditions then yet again, more rain the weekend. so this heavy

rain the weekend. so this heavy rain across the east will clear around mid evening. but notice a rash of showers further west and also strong winds . a lively also strong winds. a lively evening to come across wales western scotland, northern ireland, those showers tend to ease across england and wales. further showers likely into the early hours of friday morning across north as well as the west of scotland one two clipping of scotland one or two clipping northern. a chilly start to the day on friday. it will be bright through the morning then a few showers tracking across england and wales but they'll be few and far some weather far between some drier weather but showers continue and. they'll across central they'll be heavy across central and of scotland, and northern areas of scotland, one just creeping in one or two just creeping in across ireland. a across northern ireland. so a keen up here by the keen breeze up here by the south, lighter breeze as south, a lighter breeze as temperatures rise around 12, 13 degrees celsius and that pretty sets scene for the weekend. sets the scene for the weekend. a morning, a chilly morning, but some amount through the day. amount of air through the day. so a through friday evening we watch as these showers tend to just and go across . the just come and go across. the western parts of scotland elsewhere it's dry evening elsewhere it's a dry evening a night even with a touch of frost and some mist and for patches to start day on saturday. but this

rain is approaching the rain is approaching from the west. are picking some west. the winds are picking some strength through saturday morning eventually most morning and eventually most places through places will see rain through saturday and sunday where it could stall across the elsewhere. showers will follow. so all in all through the next few days, yes. after a bit of a chilly on saturday morning, the rain arrive across the west. watch for it being heavy with gales towards the northwest. and here's your outlook into the first part of next week things settle down from the south and. it will turn cooler as well .

good at 6 pm, i'm emily culver filling in for michel on tonight's jobs co. half a million that's how much the uk.

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