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hello welcome back to watching gb news. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories. gb news. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories . the home your top stories. the home secretary says she's to reducing levels of migration as more than half a million enter the uk in past year. the office for national statistics says 504,000 and more people to the uk than left in the year to june. that's the highest level since the second world war suella braverman said the rise was dnven braverman said the rise was driven by an impressive world. events, including the war in ukraine and the end lockdown restrictions . the deputy prime
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restrictions. the deputy prime minister facing new allegations that he his personal email iphone to intimidate staff. dominic raab is facing an inquiry after two formal complaints were made . the prime complaints were made. the prime minister says he still has confidence in his deputy and mr. raab claims he always to the ministerial code card behave professionally times and the one that when the complaint came in a matter of ago first they would come against me since i'd be the minister since 2015. call for an independent inquiry and i look forward to dealing with it fully. a 31 year old man has been charged the murders of a mother and two daughters following arson attack on a flat nottinghamshire. three year old fatma and one year old naima died the fire at their home in clifton sunday morning. a 28 year old mother was taken hospital and put on life support , but she died on tuesday over
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times, more people are in hospital flu than this time last year. hospital flu than this time last year . nhs hospital flu than this time last year. nhs england figures show there , was an average of 344 there, was an average of 344 patients per day in hospital with flu last week , compared to with flu last week, compared to just 31 in the beginning of december year. the head of the nhs confederation says it comes as 360,000 staff were off sick in the past week, compounding what he described as already severe staffing shortages . much severe staffing shortages. much of ukraine is without power for a second day after the most damaging russian air strikes on its energy grid , the war began. its energy grid, the war began. ukraine and authorities have set up p0p up ukraine and authorities have set up pop up centres where people can charge their phones , get hot can charge their phones, get hot drinks, despite blackout. doctors a hospital in the capital kyiv were forced to use a torch . surgeons could perform a torch. surgeons could perform open surgery. the latest airstrikes have killed ten people and shut down of ukraine's nuclear power plants for the first time in 40 years.
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and the leader , the rmt union, and the leader, the rmt union, has said with the transport secretary positive, but he hasn't ruled further industrial action . marc lynch warned the action. marc lynch warned the government warm words aren't enough to a resolution. thousands rail workers are due to hold a fresh round of strikes over the festive period in a long running dispute with network rail over pay . meanwhile network rail over pay. meanwhile in scotland rmt have accepted a new pay offer by scotrail . new pay offer by scotrail. you're up to date on tv online and db plus radio. this is gb news. now it's time for headliners . headliners. good evening and welcome headliners. i'm josh hawley and i'm to be taking you through friday's top stories with pastor leo kearse and, the funds to ben norris . it looks fun, doesn't he norris. it looks fun, doesn't he 7 norris. it looks fun, doesn't he ? but
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norris. it looks fun, doesn't he .7 but first, let's plough through friday's front pages and we're going to start with the daily mail. the daily mail leads with gp's vote to close at just 5 pm. the telegraph freed's, johnson and truss in rebellion to challenge sunak's authority. the eye leads with student visa crackdown set to spark major row. the guardian leads with mps urge investigation ppe contracts after mon or money revelations . after mon or money revelations. the times with foreign students banned from universities , the banned from universities, the sun leads with walliams , bgt and sun leads with walliams, bgt and finally the daily star reads punk off friday ahead of england's world cup game tomorrow right . let's get tomorrow right. let's get straight into it . and we're straight into it. and we're going to kick off with the front page, the mail, leo. yes, it leads that story. gp's have already voted to shut their doors just 5 pm. so up until
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now the standard time gp surgeries shut the doors was 6:30 pm. so could rush home from work and get out of a appointment. maybe save your life . but no doctors and, life. but no doctors and, nothing is around 110 grand a year on average. will they their work in two.7 that year on average. will they their work in two? that doesn't your past 5 pm. it's like you know you want if you want me to stay longer got a p p more money . as longer got a p p more money. as they're saying we're not going to we're not going to see any any more people and some practises it's just some practises it's just some practises got into bed practises sorry to use the same word dunng sorry to use the same word during during lockdown so they're doing everything via zoom consults sessions and at some prices they're still that on and it's not something we're doing a seven out of every eight consultations have done remotely rather than in person and this is still you know even a lot regular gp practise and they know what's going on. my feet exactly comes from this over
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zoom you can't massage your lunch over zoom you know you need you need to sort of do a lot of the stuff in on that rush you can't insert two fingers into that it doesn't but bringing back some fond memories for but i read in this article it's interesting that i think they're saying 32 billion you 32 million appointments a month now this compares to 24,000 million a month pre—pandemic . there's a a month pre—pandemic. there's a is this just that that thing those millions trying to eat it's 32 million now right and before lockdown it was 24 million so they are seeing a lot people start answering the phone and they wanted it. yeah, but do you think this is partly them playing catch up . i should think playing catch up. i should think so. yeah do you. it's incredibly difficult to get a doctor's appointment, isn't it. i it really is like magic because i think my talks you have phone up at 8 am. and by 8:02 all the appointments are gone for next two weeks. so it's yeah. it's
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just very, very difficult when you've got children and then and they're not well you have to resort to you know which doctors and improvising also feed them vegetables more vegetables that might help though you been racist against scottish people i apologise also , there is apologise also, there is a little thing here where the doctors, they say they what they're saying, the gp's are saying that the current working arrangements patriarchal and arrangements are patriarchal and they say and this is there is a very hugh's forgetting is you know it's systemic as well. i mean this is a people just co—opt all this sort of walk language to sort of suit whatever they want. it's i think i know that this uncle fast i didn't bring up patriarchal but you know i mean i love the song for woke me and he's the man they said because they try and use this woke language like patriarchal obviously woke language like like of this stuff like colonialism and stuff like that. all these access to patriarchal like using this to get out is i mean, but do you
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think that the doctors should they should be finishing work of five or do you think they have a duty of care to see people longer because also people have jobs as well. well i guess you know, when it's dark early. you want to get on the golf course before it's impractical but but really they should be finishing at three i mean that's probably too late really, isn't it? by the time you've got you reach out to this, i'll be lucky to see them any point. we should see them at any point. we should meet at the golf course. meet them at the golf course. then these struggling public sector underpaid . sector who are underpaid. they're nhs, which means they're in the nhs, which means that underpaid. i that definitely underpaid. i mean, you some sympathy mean, do you have some sympathy for don't under you. for them. i don't under you. it's hard to sympathise with that kind of salary isn't . it, i that kind of salary isn't. it, i mean they've done the work to find it. how much. the diversity, equality and inclusion directors get . they inclusion directors get. they get paid more. do that. yeah for using like patriarchy . using words like patriarchy. white ben what is the front page . the telegraph saving the front page of the telegraph saying that the replaced the king with
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paddington . oh yes , and oh no, paddington. oh yes, and oh no, no, i don't . i think no, i don't. i think i misunderstood that story, johnson. and trust funding rebellion . and i am going to be rebellion. and i am going to be honest , you i rebellion. and i am going to be honest, you i haven't read too much that because we were going to talk more about this story net migrate surges to record high so do you want to talk about that now ? a bit late. about that now? a bit late. you're leading you come on to cover it? well, i mean we've got notes as well you a book you've written notes. oh, this is great. i mean, you told me to come in early and try write something. so this is all i came up with. okay but. so what happened to the patriarchy? well, still around not well, i mean, i still around not my migration is , the highest my net migration is, the highest it's been since the world it's been since the second world war. apparently and the only point out the bulk of the increase was driven by students arriving to study and people fleeing war in ukraine. so i guess no one's going to have a beef with that. i think if we want to cap the amount of people we have in the uk though it
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might be reasonable to think about swapping some of our terrible people with some new better people. so what was your terrible? i'm going to give you some . you know, you get caught some. you know, you get caught with your feet on the seat in the train, you're gone , you the train, you're gone, you know, bring in a better person, you know you drive your range rover yellow box junction rover into a yellow box junction , swap with it. , you're out swap with it. that's if you isis can , we that's if you join isis can, we get rid of you then or have we got to accept you. well i that's going to in part two i'll come back to that i'll tell you what if are a man, a top not gone if you are a man, a top not gone , you swap with the better part. what about dying your in what about dying your hair? in middle age ? i would. i would you middle age? i would. i would you do it? i see a nation like this, but i mean, i. you'd love the opportunity, wouldn't you? oh oh, oh oh, get him out of here. don't go. i'm in the middle. you know , up here a little bit know, up here a little bit higher . and know, up here a little bit higher. and then that know, up here a little bit higher . and then that way know, up here a little bit higher. and then that way the camera now look, both the way to do it. i've got lots of hats.
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this, this interesting part of the reason we have so much light net migration is because some people are arguing there's less people are arguing there's less people leaving . the uk. no, people leaving. the uk. no, there's, there's still a lot of people leaving the uk but not as much. 560 million people left the uk so we've got 1.1 million people arrive in the uk which i think is also a record record high. and obviously, you know, love is legitimate asylum seekers, you know , from from seekers, you know, from from ukraine who, you know, as women and children and a lot of them will go home once ukraine's liberated. but then know we've got other people gaming the system giving asylum system system giving the asylum system or the student visa or giving the student visa system to come over here and work and state which know obviously is good for there's benefits to the economy but it contributes to problems . you contributes to problems. you know, if the gaps are shutting a 5 pm, how are we going to get appointments for everybody? you know, there's going to be a housing crisis unless everybody bnngs housing crisis unless everybody brings a semi—detached house with going to be a with them, there's going to be a housing. the mostly building with them, there's going to be a hou houses the mostly building with them, there's going to be a hou houses as|e mostly building with them, there's going to be a hou houses as well, stly building with them, there's going to be a
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hou houses as well, although ng the houses as well, although i don't think there are. i'll bet his off you know i mean we're not building houses house building come don't since building is come don't since we've mass because so and we've had mass because so and also you know i think you know people always say oh it's become thing that's decried as racist say well maybe we should have some sensible on immigration because know i you know, because you know i you know, having such a huge proportion of the population coming in in a year and this is happening after year and this is happening after year those well, it's not because these figures are so high because , obviously lockdown high because, obviously lockdown finished . so that's partly the finished. so that's partly the reason why things gone up so much. there's a bit of a backlog , but i'm talking over the like two decades since, you know, we became sort of neoliberal globalists, we are out of the eu now. so it isn't like this. exactly. you have control of our borders. i mean, we don't it's almost reduced the control of our borders because france has got no incentive. no. that we're out to work with us in out of the eu to work with us in migration. but i knew we should stayed in the eu. i mean if you look at the criticism been
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levelled qatar, people levelled at qatar, people are saying, this saying, well, this is a homophobic culture, the sexist, the all the rest of the racist and all the rest of it. and then people are like, oh, but we should open borders of an unlimited numbers men of an unlimited numbers of men who beliefs. i don't who have those beliefs. i don't i i don't don't get i don't i don't i don't get that. doesn't square my that. it doesn't square in my mind surely these you mind like surely if these you some cultural norms are some of these cultural norms are unpleasant in qatar they'd be unpleasant in qatar they'd be unpleasant here . okay well let's unpleasant here. okay well let's go to on the times now because you're talking about students and people gaming the system. yeah this really shows how much foreign students do actually bnng foreign students do actually bring to our economy. they bring their peers as well as people i can believe in. so they're going to introduce restrictions on foreign students bringing members with them after the number of dependents almost triple tripled in a year. i'm not sure , you know, they're not not sure, you know, they're not coming specifically for study. this is the first this summer. not so . some are not coming not so. some are not coming specifically to study because
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why would bring your mum to university with . you obviously university with. you obviously intuitive doesn't do your washing. you want washing for the patriarchy, want to smoke a smoker? do be and listen to some you know world music you don't to you had such fun time doing it was a long time do do yeah i mean is but it cannot be denied what what foreign students bring to this economy they bring what what foreign students bring to this economy they brin g £30 to this economy they bring £30 billion a year and this is them pay billion a year and this is them pay they subside dies the courses the uk students the postgrad ones that stay around you know it's we are sucking of the brightest. yeah but let me yeah that's i'm at the border welcome to the uk but it's not unfair other countries i've always seen your legs as sri lanka someone trains doctors and stuff then we push and you know i can see it's good for because we are getting you know allows us to get cheaper health care workers and stuff like that. well a slightly different thing it what i'm also about it but what i'm also about is like uk's skill of yeah.
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like the uk's skill of yeah. highly skilled but also soft power . a lot of people come to power. a lot of people come to the uk , they get educated here, the uk, they get educated here, they get they back to their home countries. a lot of them then end actually leading the end up actually leading the country part that country, being part of that government and have government and they have positive experiences. the uk living west. so there's living in the west. so there's lots of benefits think. yeah. lots of benefits i think. yeah. to the wider world actually. yeah.i to the wider world actually. yeah. i think we've just got to tweak not being you tweak it so it's not being you think little bit tweaking. think a little bit of tweaking. yeah mum at home. yeah leave your mum at home. smugglers yeah. okay, i'll go get stuff. none of the bad stuff. but for a system our fellow band took through the sun here . right. which one is this. here. right. which one is this. it's the one with the big red bannen it's the one with the big red banner. oh well, the big on the sun is walliams. david walliams , not walliams. you said is walliams. yeah i think so. i agree. it's go. that's good. one of the stars go walliams. anyway, he's quit. britain's got talent. i'm amidst a bit a ferrari. he's i think he was sort of heard saying it's quite
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things about some of the contests now what what exactly did he say. well he he called an old lady lady that's very bad. yes. and i imagine it was a sort of in—joke was it to her face? i'm not i'm not sure. of in—joke was it to her face? i'm not i'm not sure . or another i'm not i'm not sure. or another part of her. i think he i he just had his mike on and sort of said it was so weird. yeah. and then he said some fairly unsavoury things about a female contestant that he first of all, said, you know, looks like one of those people . he thinks you of those people. he thinks you ought to that word. do you know him at all? did meet him ever on the circuit? i did meet him once, very briefly, stunned them. no, ijust once, very briefly, stunned them. no, i just happened to sit next to him in a nightclub. he was chatting to a woman as he to talking binocular adult and but he wasn't very interested in chatting with me because he wanted . i used him already. yeah wanted. i used him already. yeah but i like how this article basically says that he quit. it says his according to source
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that. says his according to source that . he said says his according to source that. he said it feels time to move on his life . it's time for move on his life. it's time for you to get fired . yeah. yes. you to get fired. yeah. yes. like bill cosby moved . yeah, like bill cosby moved. yeah, exactly. he's a he's gone. i mean, i know. i i don't want to ask a lot of our and colleagues have actually done pretty well out the whole britain's got talent. yeah it's not a natural set up for comedy real guys. have done it ? it's not like have you done it? it's not like three alone in the studio on three men alone in the studio on a night . three men alone in the studio on a night. britain's got talent. you're not the authority in the room. and i thing is a community you've got to be the authority you've got to be the authority you did sort of yeah you is fun man. well you did this here a big , big man. well you did this here a big, big break. and man. well you did this here a big , big break. and what man. well you did this here a big, big break. and what did david walliams say about you oh man he was he's such everything he said to be the elderly contestant. i would like to see him right. he was such like you said, he was such a novelty contestant. he to he said to contestant. he to me, he said to me, you write your own jokes? me, do you write your own jokes? and was course, of and i was like, of course, of raymond jokes i'm the ukip raymond jokes know i'm the ukip punch champion. then he just buzzed send me
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buzzed this thing to send me off. i'm glad you've let off. well, i'm glad you've let go. you. what go. the anger you. what happened? you're happy happened? so you're happy this story. like best story. this is like the best front page seen for a while. i'm loving it. i'm loving it. can we see this on youtube the. i don't think so. i don't think i've ever been. it delays it. i mean i'm in the background in a few scenes but it's not. all right good. all right. well, that's it for. part one. join us after the break for fraudsters sic police and the robots that are going to end up replacing them so you want to .
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welcome back to headliners i'm josh howey he's there because he's been norris these are the newspapers starting in the section with friday's sun and ben are you going to receive of these texts so . this is about these texts so. this is about these texts so. this is about the uk's biggest ever bust 70,000 warned that they might
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have been victims. global bank scam so have been victims. global bank scam s 0 £50 million stolen in scam so £50 million stolen in britain it says suspected mastermind who ran a website called i spoof used by fraudsters around the world was those held in the police operation. apparently he's a cockney cotton . okay. they cockney cotton. okay. they didn't do anything that was say or do what is perfume as pretty bad cockney accent all i would say is people i think if someone contacts you from a website i spoof, you may want to proceed with caution . although this was with caution. although this was a website to help other fraudsters fraud and very popular and very but the british into into a new it that's easy for you to say the caught my eyes says police will come 70,000 spoof victims by text over the next two days. these messages ask people to register their details on the action for website now . this to me is a bit website now. this to me is a bit like victims of a mugging being
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asked to meet the police down. the end of a dark alley, isn't it? yeah and bring all your money with . you just to check money with. you just to check how much is missing. they're going to get this tax saying, you know, email . surely there's you know, email. surely there's going to be this horrendous deja vu. just don't get exactly vu. it's just don't get exactly them with confidence. but you have to feel very sorry for these. and lot of them have these. and a lot of them have lost a lot of money. yeah, well, so have criminals and why they're turning to internet fraud. to a fraud. it's hard to make a living from. from the old fashioned crime. you fashioned type of crime. you know, television is know, you nick a television is you. used to be you. televisions used to be worth pounds no worth hundreds of pounds no there know very there was you know not very i think under huge can't even get them the door so but thin huge of it thing. yeah so that's really well you just slide them under the door. that's but you have to carry them kind of feel like a dog with a stick. yeah, but but yeah. so they're sort of attracting the, this generation of criminals , criminals way. the of criminals, criminals way. the criminals don't get job criminals don't just get job like the amount of like for the amount of hostilities to be like signing up to website , paying for up to this website, paying for this fraud stuff and got
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this fraud stuff and they've got to pay for bitcoin as well they say you got to learn how bitcoin works. just amount of works. yeah, just the amount of effort you've got to effort and hassle you've got to go job, go through, just get a job, fintech or something . that could fintech or something. that could be the future. yeah, i quite the police commissioners he said this biggest fraud this is the biggest fraud operation country and it operation in the country and it signals a different approach . i signals a different approach. i was just thinking, yeah, catching well done. but they're so proud of themselves that they've launched this thing and they're working with the fbi. yeah, they're online. i mean it's a huge amount of money now thatis it's a huge amount of money now that is being taken. i mean, i think it actually counts for to 60, 70% of pretty much all crime at the moment. right. so i don't know how going to if that is what the police if that's going to be their job in the future essentially dealing with scammers. it's all part of the cashless society. you know, we're moving from having money on to beeping things , watches on us to beeping things, watches and so obviously criminals are responding to that . getting your responding to that. getting your money through the backdoor that's the next that wasn't .you
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know it's just they are thinking muggers when you start seeing muggers when you start seeing muggers and they're to have one of these little machines with them skimmers to skim them they these skimmers to skim them they these skimmers to skim the your pocket if the card in your pocket if you're the bar. so you're standing at the bar. so yeah they've also got to the yeah but they've also got to the ball. skimmers you these ball. so skimmers you know these cameras the defence over cash machines as well when you put your put card in the can your put your card in the can get details but lot of get your details but a lot of you how when you an you know how when you get an email fraudulent and trying email this fraudulent and trying to put bank to get you to put your bank details and you're always like mine good photo so this is all you know higgledy piggledy misspelt and they deliberately them get stupid them rubbish so they get stupid people stupid people are more likely to be flexible for more money further the line like the same people who want a bigger penis they get those so penis because they get those so the penis gets bigger bigger and bigger . you the penis gets bigger bigger and bigger. you guys have been looking at my inbox, he says . looking at my inbox, he says. i've never seen your inbox. so you make clear right onto friday's and leo all that even more useless policemen than we thought . currently the daily thought. currently the daily mail there are the police chief
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admits . the police mail there are the police chief admits. the police has mail there are the police chief admits . the police has got 100 admits. the police has got 100 officers who are not trusted to the public. but he get rid of them when they see i mean the headunes them when they see i mean the headlines are misleading. it's that they're not trusted to speak to the public because they might commit a faux pas or of these these are people who've been accused of misconduct or something you know something quite so they've very quite bad so they've got very conditions on where they can work. they're go to have a desk job away from windows, anything , a hole. you could get something through and score and. people say so. so, yeah, 100. and he's not allowed to fire because the i guess the power of the police unions, you know i say that i think it's something in head i wouldn't go if he drew attention to a page two in the i don't know what it is actually the police officers have a so they're technically not employees they're like their own independ and people. so the only people that can fire them are these panels instead . right. and these panels instead. right. and all those people who are on the
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panels are actually ex—police men and they tend to be more so the insane thing is of the people, there's only 1% of officers under these misconduct cases who have actually been dismissed. yeah so that's pretty insane. dismissed. yeah so that's pretty insane . and the other thing that insane. and the other thing that i think on a bench, if you this the 10% of the total workforce at the moment are not able to be fully deployed. what do you think about that? there's an awful lot of sickness, isn't there, in the, you know, people off sick because you get sick pay - off sick because you get sick pay . yeah. they'll encourage pay. yeah. they'll encourage sickness . do you think it's sickness. do you think it's because as one of the someone pointed there is because of the trauma it's hard job i mean to be fair to them it is hard job and it would explain why maybe there are so people. yeah there are so many people. yeah yeah, i think you have yeah, i think i think you have to feel sorry for some police officers who perhaps aren't cut out for it. but you know, this would also suggest an awful lot of them. there's a lot of bad in that barrel, wasn't there were some of those bad apples of
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sick. yes okay. i used to i used to work for the police. i was a criminal intelligence analyst. and it's not that hard a job. and it's not that hard a job. and if those got even easier because if you want an easy life, you can just join the police commit some misconduct then you don't have do then you don't ever have to do any because they can fire any work because they can fire you they can you and you and they can make you and watch work hard. why did you watch you work hard. why did you left? why did you decide do left? why did you decide to do a david walliams? i took voluntary redundancy money. okay, well, okay. enough . that's where okay. fair enough. that's where our taxpayer money good our taxpayer money went. good sticking mail and ben sticking with the mail and ben do you buy into shamima begins sob story it's tricky it it's tncky sob story it's tricky it it's tricky you want to say that you pinko . well no i mean i i've had pinko. well no i mean i i've had a 15 year old daughter's made this some fairly questionable this some fairly questionable this one of them i seem to remember died an orange and the other one passed a nose , but other one passed a nose, but neither of them came anywhere near running away to syria joining isis.
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near running away to syria joining isis . when i was 15. joining isis. when i was 15. always massively into music . i always massively into music. i would spend most of the time buying and spend my pocket money on on. i always just obsessed by music was shamima wants wanted music was shamima wants wanted music outlawed you know so i think that's quite she's got a very different sort of teenage experience. yeah it's a mind i guess one thing you can't fault shamima by is her ambition you know was imagining herself in a book group or, you know, knitting circle . a teenager. no knitting circle. a teenager. no terrorism. you know she said heights it's pretty hot. a bit of travel. yeah. leo there's an argument that , you know, that argument that, you know, that she was trafficked . buy into she was trafficked. buy into this narrative. well, yes, she was was. she was trafficked. she was was. she was trafficked. she was groomed. islamic state. she i mean, she was young she was 15. the grooming started obviously much younger and obviously much, much younger and falling victims of . falling the ages of victims of. the grooming for the brides. shamima is actually younger than the average age of the grooming gangin the average age of the grooming gang in this country so and also
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talking about this country this country created her she's you know she's not from overseas . know she's not from overseas. she was radicalised in this country . and it shows the country. and it shows the failure of our approach to multiculturalism. i mean, it's great of multiculturalism when you get 15 year old girls you don't get 15 year old girls being radicalised, joining isis. but you know, that part of but as you know, if that part of the culture, you know, the state society to step in and, fix it. i mean the only issue with this specific i mean i think we responsible for what happened to her and i think it is a tragedy for her and for her and the country and for people people syria. but we've got to at the pubuc syria. but we've got to at the public safety aspect and if we set a precedent by allowing shamima to return then there are around about 150 other former isis people who under the same conditions would be allowed to return. and i just think that's far too much of a risk. and we've seen, you know large scale terror attacks mean there's one no longer where somebody tried to try to blow up a maternity hospital in liverpool . and i
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hospital in liverpool. and i think, you know , crimes like think, you know, crimes like that are just so unbelievably. i don't believe that person was returning from isis , though. was returning from isis, though. was this a no? no but radicalised differently but the is differently but it's the same is the we don't know the ideology so we don't know course the other but the isis if he was here as an asylum so you know is part of the but i mean it's an interesting point but the reality is that already a lot of people who who were part of isis have already come back to this country and they maintained why have they managed to keep their passports and still be british citizens and she has not i don't know . okay. she has not i don't know. okay. well, let's move . on i don't well, let's move. on i don't know. i mean, it's just there seems like some hypocrisy like why she is not allowed and some people were allowed to go to famous. is that what it is? yeah. well don't by fame. she's in a glow up. you she looks good. no, she's a up instead of a blow up and i mean nothing. you know, if she moves back, she looks like a wag. that's that's
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the sort of i think maybe that will all from islamic will save us all from islamic fundamentalism. just make up and only funds . oh, really? that's only funds. oh, really? that's right. that's your solution . right. that's your solution. wow. that's really that's not patriarchal, right? finishing section with friday's guardian ben that our alive you're coming with me this is isn't it so yeah like san francisco are proposing to use a robot that's capable of deadly force so it says they could this just i mean have these people not seen robocop you know this is not going to end well is it? so they the kinetic talent to can be weaponized a model in use by us army can be modified to add machine guns and grenade . well, machine guns and grenade. well, you need something badly it's important . i you need something badly it's important. i mean, how long before is alexa shoot this guy's face off? well i think it's going to be safer than human officers, because i saw a picture of the robot. it doesn't have knees. so it's going to
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eliminate it's going to eliminate it's going to eliminate that probably racism would be over. mean, it's not would be over. i mean, it's not as humans never make as if humans never make mistakes. think robots, you mistakes. i think robots, you know and this, they're not know and all this, they're not going deploy it a way. going to deploy it in a way. well probably will it well probably will deploy it in a where could could make a way where it could could make mistakes, also removes mistakes, but also it removes the harm to the police the risk of harm to the police officer in the states. you know, a lot of a lot of police officers get get killed they really do themselves in really do put themselves in harm's. weird though, harm's. so it's weird though, isn't because we're isn't it? because what we're talking a mindless talking about here is a mindless conscience, heavily killer. conscience, very heavily killer. and force and the us police force already has of those so well has thousands of those so well satire . but both stay with that. satire. but both stay with that. but the other thing is with robots, if it is if they are sort of controlled algorithms that are there is actually proof that are there is actually proof that some of these algorithms are inherently because of the people who built them. i mean, it's just the way you need to program to be racist. it's just to see if times is a bonus. you think, okay, fine right. that sort of part to join us in part three for they them. england fans dress parties and
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in two. welcome back to headliners. i'm josh howey. i'm still joined by leo kearse ben norris barely. let's crack on back friday's daily mail and leo i don't think any women go into toilet in parliament want to see big ben. no they don't and is that what you refer to you anyway so there's fury at plan for gender neutral there's a word the game for gender neutral quotes is to be included in £13 billion revamp of the houses the parliament. so all stuff can be either authentic selves at work as they do. we well yeah. made my authentic self work as somebody who likes women to
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smell when i've done a poo which is so this is going to really help me achieve that . so help me achieve that. so apparently 70% of bathroom facilities in any new buildings erected in the coming decades are going to be gender neutral. we actually do gender neutral toilet in my house growing up, you believe my mum you can believe it. yeah. my mum and both use the same toilet and dad both use the same toilet . i was i think we are so . i was like, i think we are so woke. and they just said, what do mean? was 19 do you mean? because it was 19 is parents use different is my parents use different wings the magic. that's they wings of the magic. that's they would because you're posh. yeah you josh to you went with josh went to private. private private. i went to private school. we don't call it school. oh but we don't call it private. we it public private. we call it public school. but he's not confusing it. very, very very it. yeah, so very, very very posh. like the public baths now we toilets have been abused we have toilets have been abused . what do . toilets head. yeah. what do you i these are that you think i mean these are that gender toilets are they gender neutral toilets are they go the way to the top. do go all the way to the top. do you have an issue with them. well you go in there and it smells lady and it's a bit smells of lady and it's a bit confusing. oh, okay. i mean, do you. i've got to honest. so you. i've got to be honest. so i don't like it at all, even though they floor to ceiling though they are floor to ceiling and stuff it still feels weird.
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i mean like when we went to the toilet it was toilet yesterday and it was all together. were only holding together. we were only holding hi. when were like you were hi. when you were like you were like. for cubicles, like. what for cubicles, of course. could still you course. but i could still you a little and then lot. how little bit and then a lot. how loud is his? we to my we what? i mean he but you were further away because you're taught anyway. make off. anyway. the point was make off. you weren't hearing that you were hearing angrily were just hearing him angrily mumbling but the point is, mumbling woke. but the point is, that's what it's like with a fellow man. but with a woman. i would argue that even then it's it just fills wrong to be in that kind of space and also i think for women in the shared space and the awkwardness it as well. i think that. but the talking about it's huge amount of money that they have to also spend to do that what do you do you that they should be worrying about this or do you how do you feel about toilets. can see feel about toilets. well can see a advantage in know a distinct advantage in you know like clubs in the like in comedy clubs in the interval. yeah you see, you know the men happily going in and out of loos in the ladies. me of the loos in the ladies. me yeah, a long queue. i
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yeah, it's a long queue. so i think lot of women this think for a lot of women this might advantageous might be hugely advantageous that got same that everybody's got same opportunity , do a tickle. i mean opportunity, do a tickle. i mean this was this report that actually came out in 2019 and they're now looking into it. do you think leo the feels like 2019 was when this stuff was at its do you think that now because mp are saying they're going to challenge this report do you think that actually we're of over that and people are recognising the need for these single spaces now ? no, single sex spaces now? no, i don't it's peaked all. don't think it's peaked at all. i wokeism is sort of getting wokeism is like london house prices. it's never going to come down. you can have a nuclear war. it's still a bit sunny. it feels like pandemic still feels like a pandemic still keeps going on. things that were pushed automatically by pushed for automatically by these don't even know these two. but i don't even know if would be articles this if there would be articles this a years ago it just a couple of years ago it just seemed be happening seemed to be happening supposedly being challenged. supposedly now being challenged. people are looking at reports are minute, this are going, wait a minute, this unfair. yes, the women unfair. oh, yes, the women who are who do to have single are who do want to have single sex was create a genre of journalism which noticing journalism which is noticing stuff so we get to talk about it
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people people have started to care to be women again but. but really just to be angry really we just want to be angry and rant about stuff. yeah while there we go. angry. oh friday's guardian and ben like they finally started they finally decided to start report on gender identity . yeah. just when gender identity. yeah. just when we thought we'd got off a difficult topic so straight and straight back into a very simple one. i mean yeah it seems that they has been , you know, a they has been, you know, a fairly large rise in amount of people born girls who decide that they want to be boys. 5,000, i believe , said 5,000% in 5,000, i believe, said 5,000% in the last ten years. mikey. yeah that's a lot, isn't it? i mean, i don't know enough about the, the details of this, i imagine some of it is because it's easier than ever to be a trans so maybe was always the always complaining and then if it's so
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easy why are they always complaining? i mean not necessarily easier for them, but easier to say your teachers and your or whatever. but i think i'm in the wrong sex right. that's also what you get marked down if you don't. well look, do you?i down if you don't. well look, do you? i mean, is that true? mine oh, yeah. i mean, you using girls. the only way you can raise it. i've just had a baby girl . and for me to make sure girl. and for me to make sure stays a baby girl, i've got to home in idaho . look, this is home in idaho. look, this is actually a very interesting article . the observer, for some article. the observer, for some time has been quite on this issue, reporting about it . this issue, reporting about it. this issue, reporting about it. this is the first time i've seen the guardian actually do something called investigate into this particular. we've known about it for a while. we know the young teenage girls particular. the jump teenage girls particular. the jump has has sort of has been beyond would be expected. so this is an article that points to a of different reasons and if you've read this book irreversible damage it talks about some of these reasons
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here. but finally the guardian, this feels like a turning point for anyway they are for me anyway is that they are actually finally reporting on the talking the stuff they're talking about how going puberty , a how puberty going for puberty, a factor. feel factor. people feel uncomfortable. their bodies , uncomfortable. their bodies, autism. amount of autism. there's a huge amount of young girls autism. there's young girls with autism. there's also social. this of also social. this idea of a social contagion in in that it's like this version of people self—harming with the idea rex is the guardian can see the writing on the wall no. so the tavistock gender clinic shut down. there's a lawsuit , a class down. there's a lawsuit, a class action lawsuit with . over action lawsuit with. over a thousand damaged children. so i mean, for some people transitioning, you know, when you're a teenager is absolutely the right thing to do. and, you know , absolutely you know, it's know, absolutely you know, it's great that they've got access to that stuff. but too many children are being funnelled into pathway , at least into this pathway, at least a real life hormonal treatments, drug treatments and that people are having breast stuff and is replaced anorexia and bulimia. i anorexia is, you know, really come down just as this has come
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because it's replaced that as a way the pubescent girls take control over the body and avoid that sort of sexualisation and telling the you know, ten, 20 years ago it was men to trans or males wanting transition to be women and now it's the other way around. no this is people who whose natal gender is female, which we used to say women because it was easy, but who wanted to transition being men. yeah. and studies show yeah. and there are studies show that actually nine out of those ten young women will be will come of it in of it being come out of it in of it being a phase and won't need the surgery and these irreversible things. yeah your daughters obviously according them your daughters but they must have seen kind of increase amongst friends that they then whatever and because there's quite a few examples they use and of different parents who have been going through and it must be very difficult for them to have their child to them and say this and what that means them. what's interesting about that generation is that they are far less concerned about it than we
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are. so when they talk about people at school transition to in the in the middle of doing they they it seems to be completely normal to them right even the surgery and the hormones and yeah they don't seem to think they've grown up in a culture where it's not it's not, it's not seen as anything, it's like getting a tattoo or a piercing. yeah of having a hysterectomy and being sterilised. yeah. but since you put it like that. yeah. i mean because this is the thing is the sort of social condition we have be like when i was growing up you know, we had double denim with mullets, you know, stuff like that that but you but like that that but you know, but you , you can get or you can keep you, you can get or you can keep don't need to get rid of it. i mean, you're somebody who transitions denim transitions double denim and stayed there, but you you can grow mullet like josh he's grow a mullet like josh he's he's the bit in the he's got rid of the bit in the front and top. but with this front and the top. but with this kind stuff, you can, you know, and this is the sad thing. the forums are full people saying forums are full of people saying i to grow my back. yeah. and
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i had to grow my back. yeah. and it's sad. well, i had to grow my back. yeah. and it's glad sad. well, i had to grow my back. yeah. and it's glad the sad. well, i had to grow my back. yeah. and it's glad the guardian. well, i had to grow my back. yeah. and it's glad the guardian have., i'm glad the guardian have finally pulled their thumb out the mail and leo, you'd think guitar would be the one place where you could wear traditional arabic clothing . well, yeah, no. arabic clothing. well, yeah, no. if you're going to some drinks. so fans , the qatar so football fans, the qatar world cup, are being told to take robes and take arabic robes and headdresses when they enter bars selling booze after complaints from locals that it's an insult to islam because more than one of the core things of islam might aware of. this is no might be aware of. this is no booze like to drink booze not like to drink we should probably just as well. i mean imagine drunk asis i mean they're biting they're they're biting off when they're but yeah so there would but they yeah so there would be like know bit like like you know a bit like scottish yeah. so scottish basis but yeah. so people been wearing the, the robes because they're comfortable because it's fun for a full, full and a thought is the good tries the headdress . the good tries the headdress. yeah right. with the headdress though is that right then. that i didn't know. okay i didn't read that bit but. i didn't know. okay i didn't read that bit but . well because read that bit but. well because they basically that so i but i believe do you know why they're
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not okay with the thought they're saying this because that's what pray in the idea that's what you pray in the idea behind it man can you be the mean it's like women to wear it like men can wear it it's like, come can we just can people come on, can we just can people just what want? can just wear what they want? can i ask, oh, double denim never went like. i don't know, english rugby fans maybe go to rugby fans maybe on the go to play rugby fans maybe on the go to play and wear the torch play scotland and wear the torch the ginger hair stick out . i the ginger hair stick out. i mean they're sort of taking the mickey. yeah. yeah. and i'd imagine this is very similar. well, i think it's also you aware out there people are arguing they're saying that we're doing it to of fit we're doing it to kind of fit they're selling these the they're selling these on the street different colours street and the different colours of different teams around of the different teams around the world. this a towards it the world. so this a towards it but guess want to control but i guess they want to control that there's very that but there's also very quickly another thing quickly there's another thing where are stopped dressing where are being stopped dressing up crusaders on stand up as the crusaders on the stand and so what is it with and that so what is it with british fans just wanting to get dressed up . yeah the crusaders dressed up. yeah the crusaders thing is yeah that that definitely is offensive i come on it's been a while. yeah. but
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it has been a while but the last time people dressed like that went to the middle ended really badly. yeah i know. but at the same time, they're saying that, you about respect for you know, what about respect for british? actually british? they're actually saying that dressed as st george. i mean, i'd argue that going to a desert country wearing chainmail is kind stupid. is that why is kind of stupid. is that why we so the first we didn't do so well the first time round is you think that's we worn the arabic we if we do worn the arabic robes we might have the robes we might have won the crusades. we win the crew? crusades. did we win the crew? i don't even know who. i think it was a wonderful. right now we're festive the stadium then. festive with the stadium then. yeah right. ending section with the mail and. was this woman banned from flying ? they were banned from flying? they were afraid that she'd still the nuts . alice. oh, my god. i don't know if we've got a picture but we got a picture. we've got. thanks. yeah, well, we're lucky. this is wide squeeze. get to it. furious plus—size model has said she was stopped from boarding a qatar flight. qatar airways flight. it's always qatar days. it's her nafive always qatar days. it's her native brazil because she was too large for . i native brazil because she was too large for. i mean large. is it one more do you could use so
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social influencer juliana . 30 is social influencerjuliana. 30 is accused the moment she made that old. oh, just have a go there we go. no excuse. the middle eastern airline of discriminating against her due to size. i mean, come on to our size. i mean, come on like this is mocking the laws of physics that allow planes to take off. you do you in a sort of aluminium tin that because the air flowing over the wings somehow manages to cheat gravity and you're going to get on it like that this isn't and she's like that this isn't and she's like oh of course if you see the airline seats i mean need to be in a tarpaulin you're looking down the aisle and then you're going like 38, 39. so hello i love did i'm going to say it. i mean what do you have won't be difficult. do you think that she she they basically said to her look got to pay a bit more money and you go first class, do you think that's fair. do you think that there's the that first that there's the idea that first class. i mean, if take class. well, i mean, if was take it they have larger seats but there is a serious issue here
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where because people are getting larger . where because people are getting larger. certainly in western countries, parties are countries, large parties are getting smaller because of the patriarchy of western countries and wokeness they're having there are dangers on that i stand with in terms of the way of the plane and fuel and fuel safety and whatnot. i mean, do you think that maybe any portions in the they're talking about people being weighed every time they have. you did did you i mean they they the way your done. yeah so it's seems that would make sense would i'd love to see that i'd love objectively she's she didn't manage to get on the plane she's still there on the plane she's still there on a diet . that's it for part on a diet. that's it for part three. don't go anywhere because coming up we've got kicked of school, picked up at school and being better at school . co2 .
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ha ha ha. welcome back to the final flight of headliners . final flight of headliners. that's correct. through these bad boys . that's correct. through these bad boys. ben, we're going to kick off with you in metro. and is home schooling back ? well, it is home schooling back? well, it is home schooling back? well, it is for this chap, alfie ransome, who's had he's been thrown out of school because he had a ronaldo haircut his mum gave him so he had the little bit of the all shaved off with , just the all shaved off with, just the bit at the front. the old ronaldo isn't. it, it's the old ronaldo isn't. it, it's the old ronaldo apparently this is this kid's well is my kid's face. well this is my haircut. well i've got haircut. there's well i've got no one ever recognises i've got the ronaldo everyone's like thinks but i've got thinks it's a ball but i've got the it's weird isn't the ronaldo but it's weird isn't it well this, this it well, well this is this, this is year old boy we're is a 12 year old boy we're talking about haircut from over 20 years ago. if i had done the same it's oh there we go. we've got picture there. if i got a picture him there. if i had at 12 my hair i had done at 12 oh my hair i would have had have bobby would have had have a bobby charlton you can charlton haircut if you can imagine well, what's
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imagine that. well, what's interesting is that the school have basically suspended . yeah. have basically suspended. yeah. i mean , we've had two years of i mean, we've had two years of school this is ridiculous . yeah. school this is ridiculous. yeah. until and how come schools obviously fine with you transitioning and all this sort of stuff but oh my god get your haircut a funny way. yeah. and also fun. and also if you go no holiday, if i want to get my kids off on next time and choose different out of school today i'm going to give them i'm just going to give them weight and then that weight haircuts and then that way they'll get anyway right next now and leo will next one got in now and leo will you this article you be forwarding this article to parents post billy so to your parents post billy so picking grandchild from picking up grandchild from school help mental according school can help mental according to a study although they do have to a study although they do have to be your own grandchildren you can't just go and grab random grandchild from from a school get permission first so there's a study of 200,000 participants andifs a study of 200,000 participants and it's the grandparents who after the grandkids felt less isolated . well, obviously, isolated. well, obviously, i mean, you don't need to for that. you've got kids with you
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and also greater fulfilment because . you're looking after because. you're looking after these kids. by contrast, who look after a spouse with an illness were linked illness disability were linked to increase feelings of loneliness, which really sad. i want to think this comes to design to live in tribes and you know everybody's got a place identity and we share this child and moccasin instead these and every moccasin instead these sort of granular isolated that we live in modern society . yeah we live in modern society. yeah no no i think it's i mean that's my dream is i'm not joking. like if i very lucky and i'm blessed to make it to old and i'm blessed with my having kids blessed with my kids having kids that's , that's genuinely the that's, that's genuinely the thing i'm most looking doing. my life being able like life is one day being able like pick grandkids out pick up the grandkids and out with yeah. so of it with them. yeah. so of course it makes sense , but my parents makes sense, but my parents don't . italy very makes sense, but my parents don't. italy very angry about it. on for the telegraph and is this actually a positive article about boys at school then yes it is apparently boys have beaten girls. yes in the us national times tables test for me. come
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on boys for me that just doesn't up. sorry i didn't got a joke in eventually. yeah i almost didn't do that. but we're always told that the girls are better and it seems like actually pretty all these other tests girls seem to want to be better to come out of whatever but this seems to be the one thing that boys and it's funny this this professor alan's mothers, he seemed very apologetic connie. i know. apologetic connie. oh, i know. we're buying we're sort of buying stereotypes, yes , boys are stereotypes, but yes, boys are good at maths or whatever. why can't we just go? that's that's it doesn't mean girls about it, not just that there's a higher issues for issues. what's wrong with society? i think with our society? i think yesterday talking about yesterday we were talking about young . it's like, young male suicide. it's like, man, you've got to live . man, you've got to live. everything's about we've got to empower , blah, blah, blah. like empower, blah, blah, blah. like why can't we just empower some men, some men sometimes because it's, know , tough being it's, you know, tough being a young and it's tough being young man. and it's tough being a let's take it easy. no, a man. let's take it easy. no, that's but this that's of course. but this is part of initiative been part of initiative has been launched. i remember my
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launched. and i remember my second thought he was doing it where basically testing where they basically now testing all with the all these kids with the timetables. idea was to kind timetables. the idea was to kind of bring the mathematical to of bring out the mathematical to of bring out the mathematical to of singapore and what i think is a good thing it's meant i spend like all of last year doing timetables which was driving me a mad my a little bit mad but my timetables amazing . fridays timetables are amazing. fridays male and i guess with you male now and i guess with you here every night missing bedtime leo this story thing isn't going to affect you. well yeah, but my baby's too young to understand what saying, huh you what you're saying, huh you know? i know, but i'm going to speak. to her because she's six weeks old. because what's she going narrative so going traumatising? narrative so maybe when she you i'm not saying she's fallen behind in her work, but i talk to her loads. she's great. but for 40% of brits under 30 believe that traditional fairy tales, including and gretel and rumpelstiltskin are an appropriate cause for 46% of brits under 30 are absolute idiots. so as many as 90% of young people believe the tales
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are old fashioned. i know i think we may faint over the next few decades you know the values and some of these old fashioned idea but i mean shakespeare but old fashioned as well. yeah. yeah it's a lot of this stuff from the old these old fashioned. so i mean, do you think of their sex has been this is what is what 90% of young people mean, 89% people believes. i mean, 89% i think i'm going to find myself the same side oh , go see the same side as, oh, go see big. when i see this fairy. leave them alone. yeah yeah that just very well also they serve function don't they. they, they teach morals . yes. the idea i'm teach morals. yes. the idea i'm just mad stuff as well. i mean like eating babies in an oven and eating them and like that is, i mean, fairy are really dark and weird and think children love. i mean, roald dahps children love. i mean, roald dahl's stuff is really, you know, dark and, strange and machiavellian as well. yeah so are you going to say what your plan your daughter grows plan is when your daughter grows up bit more ? are you up a little bit more? are you going read these stories to going to read these stories to her? okay. i know. her? yes good. okay. i know. especially know that. especially especially know that. i i that it annoys
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i know i know that it annoys people. 30 you'll literally do anything to annoy people . yeah. anything to annoy people. yeah. well that's all for tonight. thanks very to our brilliant guest, leo kearse and ben norris . headliners will be back tomorrow .
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