good evening. i'm emily carvin. this is dewbs& c0. so tonight being this is dewbs& co. so tonight being promised more control over our borders. has brexit actually made illegal immigration worse .7 made illegal immigration worse? this comes with the news that since january 21, britain has not a single channel migrants france under its post—brexit policy. has brexit made the situation worse . or do you see situation worse. or do you see this whole thing as a brexit betrayal ? and last night we betrayal? and last night we spoke about difficult it is to get in appointment with a gp. now gp have voted to cut their hours to 9 to 5. they're complaining that their working arrangements are, in quotes, patriarchal and discriminate against those children. surely on six figure salaries. this not the time to be demanding fewer. or am i wrong? do you think gp should be allowed to clock off little bit earlier? i also want

your views on whether the police are failing to keep women safe. campaign owners have launched a super complaint over police forces the uk , arguing that forces in the uk, arguing that they are failing to . protect they are failing to. protect women stalkers . this comes women from stalkers. this comes as all gb news ellie costello revealed year of hell after stalked by one of her on guests as protests have kicked off this afternoon at fast fashion boohoo's hq manchester. that's after it was reported that conditions in their burnley warehouse made workers feel like slaves. so black friday tomorrow i'm asking , is it unethical? the i'm asking, is it unethical? the whole thing. all of that to tonight. but first, let's go to the news headlines . emily, thank the news headlines. emily, thank you. it's 6:10. i'm bethany elsey with . your top stories elsey with. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister has said he has enormous respect for nurses but their pay demands of 19% are simply unaffordable . staff in

simply unaffordable. staff in england wales and northern ireland will walk out for two days on the 15th and 20th of december in their first ever national strike . the royal national strike. the royal college of nursing has accused the government of rejecting formal talks an alternative to industrial action . but rishi industrial action. but rishi sunak says he's they can find a resolution of enormous respect and gratitude for as everyone does for the incredible job they do. and look, i know things are difficult right now, everyone, because of what's with inflation. and that's why our plans that we outlined last week will get a grip of inflation and bnng will get a grip of inflation and bring it down. that's really important. and in the meantime, what did unions are asking for, i think is a 90% pay rise. what did unions are asking for, i think is a 90% pay rise . and i i think is a 90% pay rise. and i think most people watching will recognise that that's obviously unaffordable and that's why i'm pleased that the health secretary down, talking pleased that the health sethe ary down, talking pleased that the health sethe union down, talking pleased that the health sethe union and down, talking pleased that the health sethe union and hopefully ing pleased that the health sethe union and hopefully we to the union and hopefully we can find a way through this while labour leader sir keir while the labour leader sir keir starmer says government is starmer says the government is shirking responsibilities, nurses have been driven this by

the government and that's badge of shame for the government taken strike action before for patient . so this is going to be patient. so this is going to be devastating news nurses don't want to go on strike. i meanwhile, teachers in scotland will strike a further 16 days next year over a pay dispute. the educational institute of scotland says the consecutive days of action split across every council in the country will happen in january and february . will happen in january and february. it's will happen in january and february . it's after yesterday's february. it's after yesterday's strike closed nearly primary and secondary schools . the levelling secondary schools. the levelling up minister dehenna davison has announced that she will stand down at the next election. the 29 year old became bishop auckland's first ever conservative mp in 2019. in a statement , ms. conservative mp in 2019. in a statement, ms. davison said her role as an meant she had not been able to live anything like a normal life . she's now the a normal life. she's now the seventh tory mp to indicate won't seek re—election next time around. the government says the

bullying investigation into the deputy prime minister has been expanded. downing street confirmed . a third formal confirmed. a third formal complaint has now been lodged against dominic raab. he denies any wrongdoing and says his behaviour and conduct is always professional . a government professional. a government adviser on immigration has warned against proposed rules to reduce the number of internet students coming to the uk. warning it could bankrupt university . says the prime university. says the prime minister is considering restricting foreign student admissions , top universities and admissions, top universities and cracking down on the number of dependents they bring with them. downing street has insisted rishi sunak is fully committed , rishi sunak is fully committed, bringing overall immigration levels . a former soldier has levels. a former soldier has been convicted , killing a man been convicted, killing a man more than 30 years ago at an army checkpoint in northern ireland . 53 year old david ireland. 53 year old david jonathan holden was found of the manslaughter of aiden mccann. sb in tyrone in 1988. holden admitted firing the shot that killed him, but it was an accident . paul young is the

accident. paul young is the national spokesman , the northern national spokesman, the northern ireland veterans movement. he says they'll appeal the verdict . actions i can say will, be deeply disappointed by verdict. i'm saddened by it, but it's not over for david yet. because he will as team are . as far as i'm will as team are. as far as i'm aware, are going to appeal the decision. and i think if necessary, go to the court. the foreign secretary has announced a package of hands on support to ukraine through the winter. the country is still experiencing power blackouts after russian airstrikes at key infrastructure. three days ago. dufing infrastructure. three days ago. during his first official trip to kyiv james cleverly pledged to kyiv james cleverly pledged to send 35 more emergent c vehicles , as well as a further vehicles, as well as a further £3 million to help rebuild the country . ultimately, i think country. ultimately, i think it's incredibly important that the uk demonstrates the ukrainian people who are bearing the brunt of this brutality from russia that we standing shoulder to shoulder them through our

military support, through humanitarian support, through our economic support. but also through the visible support and in the cup england will play against usa in an hour's time. they're hoping to secure three points and a in the last 16. well earlier wales lost their match against iran to nil. both goals were conceded in stoppage time after wales were reduced to ten men their world hopes hanging by a thread as now bottom of group b with only one more game to play against england next week . you're up to england next week. you're up to date on tv online and db plus radio. this is tv. now let's get back to dewbs& co with emily . back to dewbs& co with emily. thanks very much, bethany. so with me until i'm going to introduce my panel, we have former brexit party mep and ceo of first property group, ben .

of first property group, ben. thank you for joining of first property group, ben. thank you forjoining us of first property group, ben. thank you for joining us this evening . and we have journalist evening. and we have journalist and political commentator joe phillips with until seven. now, i want to know all of your thoughts on the hot topics . this thoughts on the hot topics. this evening the first let me remind you is brexit actually awkwardly made illegal immigration more difficult to combat. that with the news that no channel migrants been deported to france under the post—brexit returns policy and the numbers just continue to rise. do you blame or do you think it's more of a brexit betrayal by our . i want brexit betrayal by our. i want to know your thoughts that and do you think that chips should only work from 9 am. to 5 pm. that's what they want and they voted in favour of cutting their hours. i perhaps it's not the time . want to work less . with time. want to work less. with the current within the nhs. but please let me know. do you think it's better for people with

families to work nine till five? perhaps our gp's deserve that after the hard work they put in. and let me know what you think you can get in touch with me. gb views gbnews.uk or on twitter at gb news. so we're going to ask my panel first. has brexit made it more difficult to get to with illegal channel? home office figures have revealed , but since figures have revealed, but since january 2021, britain not deported a single channel migrant to france under its post—war brexit returns policy. the government the new immigration rules in january of last year. under the they can declare asylum seekers inadmissible if they have travelled through a safe third country where they could have appued country where they could have applied for asylum. however, in the 21 months since the rules were not one person who has crossed the channel has actually been returned . ben it doesn't been returned. ben it doesn't look like brexit sorted this out. does it . well, i do think out. does it. well, i do think brexit relevant to illegal crossings as a channel. i mean, it was illegal before we brexit did . it's still illegal. we were

did. it's still illegal. we were part of the dublin three regulatory convention before brexit, but that resulted a grand total of a net 36 people ever being sent back to eu member state in the three years pnor member state in the three years prior to brexit. so i don't brexit is relevant here. what we've is years and years of incompetence and i think it's almost exemplified in the way we tackle this whole debate we see illegal crossings of the channel is a deportation not as border control but of course you only need a deportation policy such as the one that you were talking about automatic expulsions to france. you only need a deeper station policy if border control has failed and. what we haven't donein has failed and. what we haven't done in this country , david done in this country, david cameron promised to do it. theresa may promised to do it all. subsequent prime ministers, including boris johnson, liz truss and now rishi sunak have

promised it is to control borders. but then they flip back into a discussion on deport. it's very simple . the way to get it's very simple. the way to get getting it to sort this problem and the way to solve this problem is to border force to do its job and to enforce our borders and push these boats into french territorial waters . into french territorial waters. it's not that simple, is it? is quite simple. if we paid the french, it absolutely is. we pay the french we paid the french authorities paid french government tens of millions of pounds, hundreds of to do that, to essentially the borders to stop the boats coming across. it hasn't worked . is the problem hasn't worked. is the problem that no one will cooperate with us now ? well, part of the us now? well, part of the problem is that the inadmissible rule which replaced dublin three is, as ben said , rather depends is, as ben said, rather depends on a degree of cooperation with countries. and we slightly blew with brexit and our attitude to the french and blaming everybody else. i think part the problem is that it is such a puzzle that

you come back on that oh hang on, the debate is so poisonous and so poisoned . when you talk and so poisoned. when you talk about pushing boats back into the channel to , the french side, the channel to, the french side, you're talking about pushing desperate people and children into . the most dangerous into. the most dangerous shipping lane in the world. if well, they're half way. they might as well go the way they came. okay well, is it any less safe going back to finish ? let's safe going back to finish? let's make the point, though. if we more efficient in dealing with the people who arrive , if we've the people who arrive, if we've got 140,000 people who are still waiting for their asylum claims to be processed , we know that in to be processed, we know that in the last year or so that 70% of those who are processed is nowhere near that number are allowed. they're granted leave to stay . so if you speed up the to stay. so if you speed up the process by people could apply for asylum , then you would be in for asylum, then you would be in a position , say you're here a position, say you're here

illegally , but you can't even illegally, but you can't even the home secretary, you know, the home secretary, you know, the british woman in the world that stunned the committee heanng that stunned the committee hearing yesterday , they couldn't hearing yesterday, they couldn't even answer question and was forced when challenged by tim law that actually the only way to seek asylum is to come here illegally. tim like this was completely inappropriate in abstract and wrong and wants to know it didn't. abstract and wrong and wants to know it didn't . what suella know it didn't. what suella braverman should said instantly is that we have specific programs through people can apply for asylum from specific for a specific reasons and all other seekers are not welcome in the united kingdom . so we grant the united kingdom. so we grant these we these programs and that is the process those the safe legal routes. all right. so but but we've come straight back to tell me why we can't push boats back. tell me why we've got it. we've got it . i want to we've got it. i want to understand why control is

non—existent. why why is it impossible for border force to do the job at our territorial waters ? that border force does waters? that border force does it heathrow airport or other entry in the united kingdom. if you if you had 400 people coming off a jumbo jet and charging the e—gates they would be mobbed by and then have guns pointed in their they'd be handcuffed, they'd be marched to room, put on a plane and sent back to where from. so why where they came from. so why don't at the point of don't we do that at the point of entry? well us in the sea, you wouldn't on plane wouldn't getting on a plane unless it to use your these unless you it to use your these are people who are being ripped off let let's just say they are voluntarily paying thousands the pounds to finish is part of the problem. what's the problem? the problem. what's the problem? the problem is that it's impossible to have a sensible debate. what is what is immigration ? because is what is immigration? because it is so vile , it's not violent. it is so vile, it's not violent. these people are invading our country. let let me just let me just say i will not sit here and listen to you talk about people

invading. that's they are doing let me just say they are not are people. many of them are people . about 12,000 . absolute. what about 12,000 albanians. and let me let me just come in, because i do want to couple things to say couple of things straight. i the characterisation of those on as being women and children is a bit of a mischaracterise section. yes, of course there are women and in desperate conditions who have crossed the 70,000 odd that have donein crossed the 70,000 odd that have done in the past few years. however, the majority and we know from the most recent statistics are albanian men . we statistics are albanian men. we also know that the home office has very slow in terms of processing asylum claims . but has very slow in terms of processing asylum claims. but i would query whether any office under any kind of jurisdiction, under any kind of jurisdiction, under any kind of jurisdiction, under any government be able to manage such a massive flow of thousands of people across every single day in dinghies. i would question whether that that is possible. can i just come back on? ben's point that, you know, he was saying that suella braverman have answered he was saying that suella bra�*question have answered he was saying that suella bra�*question , have answered he was saying that suella bra�*question , yowave answered he was saying that suella bra�*question , you know,|swered he was saying that suella bra�*question , you know, had'ed he was saying that suella bra�*question , you know, had we the question, you know, had we got secretary with any

got a home secretary with any more , she might. more weight or skill, she might. well, she's a very bright, capable lady she's doing capable lady and she's not doing terribly well at the moment. but part of the problem is that there been so if you like, there has been so if you like, by the fervent people who talk about invasion, who talk about swarms of immigrants and who are and you've got home secretaries and you've got home secretaries and you're right, emily, that it doesn't matter who has been in that job it is almost impossible to deal with, because what they are doing is not dealing with the problem of process. they're deaung the problem of process. they're dealing with headlines and they're coming up with going do this. we're going to put up barriers as in the in the channel you know that's what priti patel is a big wave machines pushing them back we're going to send them rwanda going to send them to rwanda we're do the you know we're going to do the you know we're going to do the you know we're stuff to we're coming up with stuff to make headlines appease a very make headlines to appease a very hang on i'm not if it's to appease because poll after poll shows that people are frustrated with this issue and they're not

oldest mail readers who've been hyped up discussion about invaders people see with their own eyes they hear with their own eyes they hear with their own ears. what is going on at our border. and they are allowed to be worried that . their to be worried that. their country is has borders that are completely but completely porous and we've got we've got a cost of living crisis. we've got essentials going on strike for the first time in british history, rishi sunak was on the news just before we came on saying we can't afford give the nurses the pay rise. they and here we are paying 7 million a day for accommodation for these people more than by now . 7 people more than by now. 7 million a day. okay. well, that's the official figure for accommodation it's costing. are you kidding ? no. all our you kidding? no. all our population since 2010 has gone up population since 2010 has gone ”p by population since 2010 has gone up by about 6 million people. you would have an open border policy, you would flood united kingdom, you come over well, all housing and all public and our country collapse. we're already the point of breaking very

passionate about this topic. like many of our viewers are. joe, may i ask you, would you be favour of open borders ? i would. favour of open borders? i would. if you honest, i would be much more in favour of being about letting come through a process where they are properly processed. and if after six months or a certain letter to let them work, let them contribute to the economy that would just be a massive pull factor in my books. i see. i see abrogation of border control the view and also also the are a total sham there's no security in them you can abscond very very easily into the mla that all immigrants or all illegal immigrants are bad. and your assumption the opposite go on until . they can prove who they until. they can prove who they are and that not antipathetic to the united kingdom, they should not be allowed into the united kingdom. prove who are if you are fleeing a war because they all say they're in france . all say they're in france. they're not fleeing a war zone . they're not fleeing a war zone. they're not fleeing a war zone. they're safe back there . okay. i

they're safe back there. okay. i will have to cut you off. that's just been a heated debate. i think i must go and see all our viewers who have had to sit through this. i can tell you we've enjoyed the fashion. see what they think. so david thinks feel he says , feel totally betrayed. he says, i feel totally betrayed by the conservative party. all their promises carried out promises have never carried out . illegal immigration is totally out of control . there is no out of control. there is no clear solution in place, just hot air. and companies such as serco and hotelier chains making an absolute fortune . that is an absolute fortune. that is true. hotels have been offered millions to a migrants and asylum seekers. jim says brexit is now just ignored by politicians they want millions of migrants cheap labour. i can't really argue with that it does seem that the conservative having talked a big game lowering net migration to the tens of thousands seem to have absolutely no intention to do so. it's been quite interesting . sunak sort come up with . rishi sunak sort come up with these quick ideas on how to get those numbers down. i doubt any

will be and. john, i must go to john. he says no, no, no. it's our problem not the french. we must deal it. we must stop them. even landing. why should the french care if they to come to britain ? well, i take that view britain? well, i take that view , definitely. i don't think the french any particular interest stopping people from crossing the channel would they? they've got so many camps in northern france i'm sure they much would like to take the money and sort of bid farewell to those people to british shores anyway , going to british shores anyway, going to british shores anyway, going to move on from that topic coming up all gp's who earn six figure sums right to demand a 9 to 5 working day that would cut their hours by two and a half hours. we'll you in three stations join me during my new show on giving frank fun fearless and sometimes serious much as i love a friday night punch up. what i really want is a battle of ideas. i want to look at things differently . i look at things differently. i want hear different voices want to hear different voices and with your unique exterior

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welcome back to dewbs & co. with welcome back to dewbs& co. with me culver kicking off your weekend in spectacular fashion with until seven. my panel is former brexit party mep and ceo of first property group ben habib who is feeling very heated poncho i'm and journalist and political commentator joe phillips with me as well so jp's and england have voted to reduce their hours to 9 to 5. they're complaining that their arrangements are patriarchal and discriminate against those with children. currently all practises are required to provide services during hours. that's 8 am. to 6:30 pm. monday to friday. yesterday it

was revealed that hundreds surgeries were still conducting less than half of appointments face to face. let's remember also that family doctors are on average also that family doctors are on averag e £112,000 a year. so average £112,000 a year. so perhaps they shouldn't be looking to reduce their hours . looking to reduce their hours. but perhaps that's just my view . joe is right to want work less hours. well, let's just this into context. first of all this is not the british medical association, which, if you like, is the trade for doctors . is the trade union for doctors. this is local medical committee which influences the submissions, but they are not representative. they're not the same. so it's slightly disingenuous to say that the gp's have voted , although some gp's have voted, although some of the members of this committee be there were 36.1 million gp consultations . october 40% of consultations. october 40% of those were on the day booking and 71% were person to whether that's in—person or yeah, the number of gp's has fallen full

equivalent gp's it's down hundred and 13 since 2019 when the government promised there would be 6000 more gp by 2024. well, i know how they quite did the math because it takes bit longer than that to train to be a i think . it's very easy to say. oh a i think. it's very easy to say. oh 5. they all constantly dealing with a greater range complex issues . so somebody who is now issues. so somebody who is now let's say in their 70 is who may have in previous decades had one thing wrong with them has perhaps survived cancer let's say but will have multiplicity very complex needs , complex very complex needs, complex needs, complex medical complex follow ups and things like that. so because we've got a population that is living and are living with things that once upon a time would have been a death sentence . the demand for

death sentence. the demand for gp's appointments and time is much, much greater. so there even though it's not necessarily in numbers capacity for patient going in is demand in more of them. so there are also the real problem i think is the fact that gp facilities or primary care facilities also variable the country you know in some places you can't get to a gp. yeah for weeks on in other places where i live i'm very lucky we've got a sort of a medical centre hub there's an awful lot of stuff that you . so maybe your view on that you. so maybe your view on the gp's might be slightly skewed because for a lot of people there is feeling that the gp's aren't there when you need them. and we must say a large portion if , them. and we must say a large portion if, not them. and we must say a large portion if , not the majority, do portion if, not the majority, do work part time is a problem in and of itself in that i mean part time doctors i think, i

mean joe made a fantastic argument for why all shouldn't be reduced because we've many more demands on them than many people in the country as we've just discussed in the previous bit the programme and i've bit of the programme and i've got much, much greater sympathy for increasing nurses and indeed even doctors wages, not necessarily gp's , but doctors necessarily gp's, but doctors wages that i have for them cutting back their hours . right cutting back their hours. right now, the united kingdom is facing problems across the economic and public services front and don't deal with that by reducing the number of hours you work. if a private business is under pressure, people pull together , work whatever number together, work whatever number of hours they need to their business through the problems . business through the problems. i've got much more sympathy, as i've got much more sympathy, as i say, for increasing . we i say, for increasing. we haven't talked about nurses pay , but i completely disagree . , but i completely disagree. rishi sunak that the demand for example of a 19% increase in in wages is unreasonable they've had a real a real wage reduction

in of around 30% in the last 12 years. it's is right that that's put right but what what we mustn't do is be putting out wages and reducing the number of hours in our of the major say because the reasoning apparent for wanting to cut hours is for family life that the current work arrangements suit people particularly women who have obviously want to more time with their family and, have duties of care, etc. i'm sorry, but if only that's the contract that they signed up to it. absolutely don't accept a job. i wouldn't accept a job if it didn't fit with life. i wished. okay well, it seems ridiculous and totally is anti—women in a way that is the most bizarre anti—feminist logic i've heard. and i consider myself a feminist, logic i've heard. and i consider myself a feminist , just not myself a feminist, just not a feminist so you sign up for something and then your life changes and you suddenly find

yourself. like many women , start yourself. like many women, start to contract jokes, and then you get in an opener, ask your boss, the grandparent , to help a bit. the grandparent, to help a bit. right? and the grandparents upon your husband or the grandparents are possibly looking after their elderly . anyway, let's not go elderly. anyway, let's not go down into personal thing. one of the problems is recruitment and yes retention is inevitably yes and retention is inevitably going to be harder for people who have got other lives they need to get on with. the other thing is that this is about opening hours to consultations . opening hours to consultations. it doesn't take into consideration the amount of time that a gp is spending. so you go and some blood test done. somebody has got to interpret those when they come back. somebody's got to organise up appointments. somebody's got organise a gp's are doing a lot more. so you have told me that gp's are hard done by i'm sorry, there are millions of people in this country who pick up over time who have hours, who are paid considerably less than doctors . and yes, i do think

doctors. and yes, i do think that doctors should feel high. they've gone through huge amounts of training and so on and be paid well, but actually demands shorter hours because it doesn't quite suit your family priorities and be demanding shorter hours and demanding more money at the same time, when you've massive problems in the. i'm sorry i think that is journalism. this is well it isn't typical. let me tell you, i was on the programme night and there was a lady , the audience there was a lady, the audience who asked a question and she opened by saying she had to wait six weeks in order to get appointment with a gp. and when she given appointment. it she was given an appointment. it was weeks hence, it was ten weeks before she could actually see a gp. that's not going to be improved by reducing the number of hours gp's work, no, but not going to be improved by gp's leaving the service which . is leaving the service which. is the alternative new? may i say it's not binary, joe i see. well, why don't we see if there's gp's out there. yes i would invite any gp's are

sitting at home with their heads in their hand. do you agree that ours should be cut ? or perhaps ours should be cut? or perhaps you think gp's just need to be paid more and then they'd be incentivise to work longer hours because seems to me that we already don't have gp's really available the weekend . most available at the weekend. most people would like to see a gp if we only have nine till five. where are all the other work when all the other working people a gp people to be able to see a gp and there are so many restrictions on gp's time, i think this is probably the worst ever after the huge nhs after pandemic and now with nhs waiting lists as they are for gp's be demanding a cut in hours like ben i'd be more sympathetic to them wanting a bit of a pay bump. although gp's are very handsomely paid well they are paid, they self—employed so they are paid out of their practise. they get a certain of the practise, gets a certain amount of money from the government per patient , but that isn't, you patient, but that isn't, you know, that is not necessarily a

ratio . the patients need , it's ratio. the patients need, it's all the amount of time that they spend. all the amount of time that they spend . the patient who comes in, spend. the patient who comes in, you know, i mean, i think there are several things here. one is that i we as public, that i think we have as public, we sometimes expectations we have sometimes expectations that a will sort everything out and you could go and see a pharmacist, you could perhaps see a practise many of the things that used be done by different organisations are now done by gp surgeries and puts a lot of pressure on the gp says an awful lot of administration with drugs and as i said the referral the system's antiquated so are all arguments for them working . longer hours, not less working. longer hours, not less but but they're not saying this is what i get so angry about this lazy. well they all know it. i'm sorry many many know local medical committees . this local medical committees. this is not cheap. well, that represents gp's it's a body that it we have a lag so if we have a look at what one chap said what?

one doctor said dr. john ellingham leeds, lmc. he voted the motion. yeah. he said it's an own goal. he said consultants found themselves vilified recently for not working weekends. it's important that we don't ourselves a target by insisting on working 9 to 5. i don't think 9 to 5 will win hearts and minds. it sounds like he's got a sensible head on his shoulders . okay i realise is shoulders. okay i realise is this a need sort this that there's a need sort of read i must go to some read the room. i must go to some of our viewers but what about the consult since that he refers who are doing very nicely thank you in private practise hospitals are sweating the assets see people doing mri and ct scans over the weekend which means you know technicians and phlebotomists and other staff all there to try and get people through a lot of this diagnostic stuff . but we've got, as ben stuff. but we've got, as ben says a very antiquated system. if all the time. you have to get a referral from your gp and there is no other way around it. i do agree referrals are madness

. i think they agree. yeah. well have a look at what people at home are saying. i want to give now an and says i don't know if we've got a gp . i don't think we we've got a gp. i don't think we have a gp yet, but please do get in touch if you're watching. i wonder my aunt, who was a gp if she'll get in touch, perhaps she's watching but and says maybe patients accommodate the desire of gp's only b ill 9 to 5 monday to friday i mean is it is yes. i see the rationale of that andian yes. i see the rationale of that and ian says they want to work 9 to 5 monday to friday because of family life. they should be allowed this. these people have families too . but you could say families too. but you could say that about anyone who has a family. surely when you sign up to a job, understand that there are conditions gp's can already go time. they don't have to work every single day. they already have quite flexible working hours and they have and then that people don't to see the low. they have a very good life

work balance in general far than junior doctors or surgeons or other consultants. i being a gp is a very good country. the country is in a very difficult place at moment. people should be increasing working hours as a general , not reducing them general, not reducing them money, and morale is low . the money, and morale is low. the country money money's different . money is a different issue and that needs to be addressed. but i was thinking about morale . i was thinking about morale. yeah, morale, morale and think with by the way, money sorts morale if you're valued if you're getting your value , it you're getting your value, it makes a huge difference. i remember during the pandemic, everyone coming out on the streets and clapping, which, by the way, i find almost patronising and disgusting. i find it disgusting . and i did find it disgusting. and i did sting. i did did i did a comparison of . the average wage comparison of. the average wage of a nurse in the uk with the us and then quickly i guess that breaks american nurses are paid twice as much as british nurses. american doctors are paid twice as much as pretty solvent. it's not irrelevant. it's relevance. it's completely system that's

it's a completely system that's paid for three very differently. but i do think nhs probably could a bit of a could do with a bit of a sprucing up, perhaps a radical reform here and there thank you very much for sending in all your opinions. we'll get to those. and please, if you're a gp, in touch tell me gp, get in touch and tell me what you think am i talking rubbish. my panel talking rubbish. my panel talking rubbish put you rubbish when they put what you agree they're . of agree with to me they're. of course she looked at course not. but she looked at me. looked it's me. she looked at me. it's coming we're going to be coming up. we're going to be switching we'll switching topics, but we'll be talking police talking about whether police are failing women. we ask failing to protect women. we ask because the national consortium submitted a complaint. the police . see you in three. stay police. see you in three. stay tuned .

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group ben habib and journalist and political commentator joe phillips. now we're going to go to the football england's football is playing their second world cup match tonight . qatar, world cup match tonight. qatar, they usa knowing a win they face the usa knowing a win will see them qualify for knockout stages with one match still to play . our reporter paul still to play. our reporter paul hawkins in doha us. paul, hawkins is in doha us. paul, what's atmosphere like like what's the atmosphere like like ? yeah, it's good. it's good in this of doha, we're in musharraf . musharraf. but the atmosphere building at the al bayt stadium, about 45 minutes away from us, 20 minutes ago until kick off until take on the us say, knowing that a win will put through to the second round of the world cup . one game to spare the world cup. one game to spare the world cup. one game to spare the welsh will hoping that the americans and the english draw tonight's . that would then leave tonight's. that would then leave wales to beat england on tuesday to qualify for the next round. the reason that wales are in that situation because lost two nil to iran earlier today. the iranians scoring right deep into stoppage time with two late late

goals in that one the welsh well under par in that game also the latest from the world cup, the netherlands are drawing one one with ecuador. that means qatar are out of the world cup. the first group, first host nation. i should to go out of the world cup this stage so on cotati managed to score a goal early on in the day when lost three one to senegal's. in the day when lost three one to senegal's . so that's how it's to senegal's. so that's how it's shaping up at the world cup. 20 minutes to go until the usa. kick off against england. england unchanged from that match iran earlier on in match against iran earlier on in the week . thank you, paul . there the week. thank you, paul. there he is from . he's looking very he is from. he's looking very bronzed , looking like he's got a bronzed, looking like he's got a little suntan from over there in the sunshine, all it's a bit more gloomy over here, but please do stay with us on dewbs & co don't switch over to the football. i'm sure it'll be a bonng football. i'm sure it'll be a boring anyway now campaign boring match anyway now campaign is oh and if you're sitting at home please do get in touch and let me know what you think about this for a 5 working

this vote for a 9 to 5 working out working what do you think i'm being bit harsh about the and they're actually a right a family life is a thing and should help with recruitment and retention perhaps now campaigners have launched a super complaint over. police forces in the uk argue that they are failing to protect women from this happens as all gb news presenter ellie costello revealed her year of hell after stalked by one of her on guests . campaigners say that victims are being at risk because of police systemic failures. jo are police systemic failures. jo are police failing women ? certainly police failing women? certainly in the evidence that this group are putting forward? yes it is clear police forces and large are not taking it seriously . i are not taking it seriously. i think the figures of 14 forces have gone the minimum requirement, but only. have gone the minimum requirement, but only . four requirement, but only. four police is a four forces don't have a single point of contact for stalking, despite despite a

government recommendation . i government recommendation. i think the problem is that it's one of those things that isn't taken seriously. you know , is taken seriously. you know, is somebody stalking you. we've all heard harrowing, harrowing experience. this week. and i think know there are huge questions about the police and i think they need to really work very hard to regain any trust of women we've seen and we all too well the horror. that was wayne cousins a police officer we know that there are many serving who are either being investigated or have been investigated and not sacked for sexism, misogyny , sacked for sexism, misogyny, homophobia, racism and that casual disregard for other people. we saw the way the police manhandled women at a peaceful vigil for. sarah everard in clapham common.

incidentally, while people . so incidentally, while people. so you're saying essentially that it's not only that the police aren't adequately dealing with when they come to them . of women when they come to them. of women being stalked . or. or other. or being stalked. or. or other. or other . but also the entire other. but also the entire culture of police is infected by. so i'm not saying the entire . because, you know, there are many there are systemic . there many there are systemic. there are many police officers do a really good job. and there are many officers who take it many officers who will take it seriously and who are empathetic and understand them. but for somebody to go the police and report somebody who is stalking them, you're not going to do it them, you're not going to do it the first time because you're going think, oh, it's just a coincidence. you're going to wait . so you're building up your wait. so you're building up your own . it's a bit like bullying, own. it's a bit like bullying, you know, you building up your own anxiety . you think anyone is own anxiety. you think anyone is serious? yes. and it's something that , you know, people serious? yes. and it's something that, you know, people have instincts . they know when instincts. they know when something's not right. but it's harder to articulate that and it's get police perhaps

it's harder get police perhaps to believe you or to take it seriously , because there are seriously, because there are many men there and women many men out there and women alike who will send inappropriate messages to many messages pester and so on. when doesit messages pester and so on. when does it turn into stalking? but i believe that it's only become a specific specific offence in the last ten years or so. which is this. which is quite astonishing because women have stalked. well, think it stalked. well, and you think it would know would covered would know it would be covered by harassment or being a nuisance and things. but you know, too times women are murdered by x partners or you know jilted boyfriends husbands what have you. because the police have taken it seriously , police have taken it seriously, been only too quick to label institutions misogynistic. i'm reading here front page news of the times is that inquiry has revealed toxic culture of misogyny and misogyny in. the fire brigade too. yeah well there just is just in the uk full of rampant sexism. i racism and who knows what else but i

mean i'm not you know i'm not close enough to the brigade or the police for that matter to comment about the misogyny . one comment about the misogyny. one way or the other. but what i can say from the stats , i never say from the stats, i never thought about being a fireman. no not. a fireman son came for my children, but not for me . i my children, but not for me. i mean, what can say? just looking at the stats is that, in fact, the number charges brought for stalking exceed the number of charges brought. jen really for serious crime . so. of 100 charges brought. jen really for serious crime . so. of100 crimes serious crime. so. of100 crimes serious crime. so. of100 crimes serious crimes committed . only serious crimes committed. only about three and a half percent end up in someone being. i mean, thatis end up in someone being. i mean, that is astonishing. it is. end up in someone being. i mean, that is astonishing. it is . and that is astonishing. it is. and i think really it's a scandal. and there's a much issue at play here. i'll come back to the women point. but there's very quickly there's a much more shouted out. okay. right there's a much bigger point here. and i think that policing is failing in this country. and to keep law and order is a very finely balanced confidence trick. people need to believe that they

will be caught if they commit a crime . and that belief is crime. and that belief is beginning to be undermined. and i'm it's anecdotally, but i'm feeling that we're losing control law and order in the uk and that is that could be disastrous because no amount of numbers of police on the streets would be able to police the country if . the belief that you country if. the belief that you will be caught is trashed . oh will be caught is trashed. oh yeah.i will be caught is trashed. oh yeah. i remember when shops on street the main shopping road in london were round by by youths and i mean , i can't imagine how and i mean, i can't imagine how they thought they'd get away with it, but clearly they did and i'm sure many, many of them got with it . anyway, we're going got with it. anyway, we're going to have to cut back to discussion short because coming up, you sail, dale ? sail days up, do you sail, dale? sail days like contribute to like black contribute to unethical conditions for workers. this comes protests take place outside . boo hoo hq. take place outside. boo hoo hq. see you in three on markdown

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group ben habib and. journalist and political commentator joe phillips. now it seems that gp's become the thread that's running through the show this evening and i'm calling on any gp's at home to let me what you think about working 9 to 5 only. i think they're all still at work. so you think they're not watching be dealing with endless patients . they're slaving away, patients. they're slaving away, they clock off at 630, they could be tuning in now that's when they stop seeing people . when they stop seeing people. okay, so maybe there aren't any gp's watching the show this evening because it's far too early and you're still very hard. well, hopefully we'll watch youtube catch later. watch youtube on catch later. anyway, we're going to be talking about beer who today is one of the biggest shopping days of black friday. of the year, black friday. consumers rushing get consumers are rushing to get good discounts but do good deals and discounts but do cheap like the ones cheap products like the ones that boo hoo fast fashion brand mean cheap labour too? well, protests have kicked off at the fast fashion companies hq in manchester after . it was manchester after. it was reported that conditions in

burnley warehouse made workers feel like slaves. ben do you sell day days like friday contribute to unethical conditions? well, i, i think that's looking at problem. you know, that's before horse, you know, that's before horse, you know, looking at the problem the wrong few leaps there. yeah. you know i think there's got to be presumption when someone goes into a shop to buy something that the product that they're buying has been produced in all respects and that the employment rights of those people who worked on the creation of that product had upheld . so to product had upheld. so to somehow say that because there's a sale, particularly now there's a sale, particularly now there's a cost of living crisis, inflation going through the roof and every family is i think has and every family is i think has an obligation to itself to minimise their costs as go through save money be prudent so on to somehow turn the moral question. right. all right ganh. question. right. all right grinch . what? well, i mean , you grinch. what? well, i mean, you do, don't you? your primary obugafion do, don't you? your primary obligation is to your family. i think a lot of people are going to be downsizing their christmas

this you this year. absolutely. and you know people are having to cut their cloth according their their cloth according to their means. it's very means. and i think it's very unfair somehow a unfair to somehow introduce a moral dimension to their desire to costs and somehow blame to cut costs and somehow blame who is potentially bad practises on their shopping . boohoo is on their shopping. boohoo is i think it's the first time boohoo who's been in the press the way this is racist. they have a wealthy is one of those fashion brands if you don't know them they're at home they're fashion brand at home they're fashion brand at home they fashion brand that they are a fashion brand that essentially sells it. obviously other brands available, but they're fast fashion brand they're a fast fashion brand sells you know from for sells dresses you know from for pounds for parties for mostly young people, mostly teenagers and upwards. young women and, you know a lot of young people talk about their socially conscious . they're all about conscious. they're all about social justice and sustainable litter. yet it doesn't seem to stop boohoo from having bumper and people. well offering to buy from there are many many companies out there i don't

think boohoo is the one there are thousands of cheap shots . i are thousands of cheap shots. i think the question is if something is that cheap? you've got to ask yourself why it's cheap and it doesn't matter. whether it's a party frock or a chicken, you know , one's one. chicken, you know, one's one. but seriously, you know, at one point the chickens probably not been kept in very nice and possibly being fed with all sorts of things. and i should imagine if you're something that is really cheap it's probably has been made by people living in conditions that are not now particularly different . the particularly different. the chicken. now, whether black friday is immoral, i'm not sure. i think actually a good thing that people can get deals and can buy things that they may be able to purchase at other times of the that's great. but i of the year. that's great. but i do that we attack do worry that we if we attack fast fashion too much in this country , all that will happen is country, all that will happen is , that people will decide that they're not going keep their they're not going to keep their factory burnley and, they'll factory in burnley and, they'll have a factory in, i don't know, 20 scenes in eastern europe or china, india and so on, where

the working conditions will be even well regulated, but what do you think of that ? well, i you think of that? well, i agree. i think there's a real danger of driving enterprise offshore and, you know, the chancellor is making a really good fist of that at the moment by companies by putting taxes up on companies making it difficult for the self—employed to make money, taxing investments, taxing dividends , increasing capital dividends, increasing capital gains tax. you know , mustn't gains tax. you know, mustn't make an enemy of the private sector the sector drives the economy . and julie at home says economy. and julie at home says black friday encourages people to spend money on. tat yes that's true that they wouldn't typically buy in, which is obviously for 364 days of the yeah obviously for 364 days of the year. we must support businesses and boycott black well, that's the other point, isn't it ? the other point, isn't it? people just do all their shopping on amazon , particularly shopping on amazon, particularly on friday or in the week. on black friday or in the week. it seems to go on forever. it's not black friday, it? not really black friday, is it? it's black november, really? there are deals of the month. no such as good you know such as a good deal. you know there were. i am. and sometimes are good deals. well, sometimes

there are . but you know, i'm there are. but you know, i'm sure are both old sure ben and i are both old enough the days when enough to remember the days when there and people used there was a sale and people used to outside on boxing day in to camp outside on boxing day in order to a three piece suite or a fridge . now there sales a fridge. now there are sales all round . everybody is. all year round. everybody is. ben is feeling the pinch. ben says is feeling the pinch. and i stuff that is encouraging people to spend and people feeling vulnerable because feel they ought to coming up to christmas so i'm going to have to cut you off , joe, because i'm to cut you off, joe, because i'm going to have say goodbye to going to have to say goodbye to both you very both of you, thank you very much, much. you much, ben, very much. thank you for joining us this evening. michelle monday michelle will be back on monday alongside young matthew alongside toby young and matthew stafford. good stafford. and that be a good one. laurence will be with one. now, laurence will be with us at 7:00 with a brand new show. lawrence what's coming up? good evening this evening ? good evening this evening? lawrence talk show number one. we will be talking kneeling bull chases , rainbow timepieces and chases, rainbow timepieces and siddique khan's plan to make london poorer than they can possibly be . but first to the

possibly be. but first to the weather . hello, possibly be. but first to the weather. hello, it's aidan mcgivern from the met office. next is looking drier than this week , but for the weekend we've week, but for the weekend we've another bout of wet and windy weather . on the way it will turn weather. on the way it will turn things bit milder briefly before dry weather next week turns things colder for the time being . weather is coming from the west now we've seen this ridge of high pressure affecting of us on friday. that's led to a fine day with a in between day with a break in between weather systems. but there is still some rain around during the evening, some showers for western areas, some longer spells of rain for the northwest of scotland. otherwise spells for many, especially during the first part of the night. and lighter winds that allow lighter winds that will allow temperatures or four celsius temperatures to or four celsius in the east england a few in the east of england a few mist patches first thing here on saturday morning. but west it's a much milder start to the day because here we've got the winds whipping up. we've some rain pushing northern ireland pushing into northern ireland and first and western scotland. first thing wales and thing that reaching wales and then eventually the south—west of , the rain initially of england, the rain initially on off , light of england, the rain initially on off, light and of england, the rain initially on off , light and patchy,

on and off, light and patchy, but it sends heavier , more but it sends heavier, more persistent the far west by persistent in the far west by end of the afternoon. however the winds, albeit with gales, will be coming from the south. and so they'll be mild 13, 14, perhaps 15 celsius in places. it's dry in the southeast , the it's dry in the southeast, the far north of scotland until the evening . that's when the rain evening. that's when the rain pushes through . and for parts of pushes through. and for parts of scotland the rain, heavy and persistent could cause some issues . with wet weather issues. with that wet weather coming down on already saturated ground . but by the end of ground. but by the end of saturday night, is turning saturday night, it is turning dner saturday night, it is turning drier in many places , the drier in many places, the southeast. there'll a slice southeast. and there'll a slice of clear spells across central areas as we begin sunday. still, though, a lot clouds remaining and across east anglia in the southeast after a respite in the rain there . more wet weather rain there. more wet weather coming up during afternoon. some heavy and persistent of rain for london, east anglia in southeast showers for scotland northern ireland, west wales and they'll still be a few showers around on monday . but overall, the theme monday. but overall, the theme next week is for it to turn

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