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news three. the prime minister has said has enormous respect for nurses but their pay demands of 90% are simply unaffordable . of 90% are simply unaffordable. all staff in england, wales , all staff in england, wales, northern ireland will walk out for two days on the 15th and 20th of december in their first national strike in over century. the royal college of nursing has accused the government of rejecting formal talks as an alternative to industrial . but alternative to industrial. but the prime minister , sunak, says the prime minister, sunak, says he's hopeful they can find a resolution . i know things are resolution. i know things are difficult right now for everyone because of what's happening with inflation and that's why all plans that we outlined last will get a grip of inflation and bnng get a grip of inflation and bring it. that's really important. and in the meantime, what did the unions are asking for i think is a 19% pay rise and i think most people watching will recognise that that's obviously unaffordable and that's why i'm pleased that the health secretary is sitting down talking union and talking to the union and hopefully we can find a way through while labour through this. while the labour leader sir keir starmer says the

government is shirking its responsibilities , nurses have responsibilities, nurses have been driven to this the government and that's a badge shame for the government never taken strike action before . for taken strike action before. for patients this is going to be devastating news. nurses don't want to go on strike . meanwhile want to go on strike. meanwhile in scotland will strike for a further 16 days next year in a over pay. the institute of scotland say the consecutive days of action split across every council in country will happenin every council in country will happen in and february. after yesterday's strike closed , yesterday's strike closed, nearly all primary and secondary schools. in news, a government adviser on immigration has warned against proposals to reduce the number of international students coming to the uk warning it could bankrupt university days. the prime minister is consider restricting foreign student to top universities and cracking down on the number of dependents they

can bring. it's after net migration to the uk reached a record half a million in the past year . the foreign secretary past year. the foreign secretary has announced a new support for ukraine as the country still experiencing blackouts after the latest round of russian . during latest round of russian. during his first official trip to kyiv, james cleverly pledged 35 more emergency vehicles and a further £3 million to help rebuild the country . ultimately, i think country. ultimately, i think it's important that the uk demonstrates the ukrainian people who are bearing the brunt of this brutality from russia that we are standing shoulder to shoulder with them through our military , through our military, through our humanitarian support , through humanitarian support, through our economic support , but also our economic support, but also through the visible support and to the world cup. england's match against usa has just kicked off qatar. england supporters have gathered at a fanzone in to watch the game. they'll be hoping the lads

secure a three point win and a place the knockouts. meanwhile over back in qatar , they are out over back in qatar, they are out of the world cup after , losing of the world cup after, losing to senegal and ecuador in their two opening games. to senegal and ecuador in their two opening games . you're up to two opening games. you're up to date tv, online and dab plus this is gb news. now let's get back to laurence fox . back to laurence fox. good evening and. welcome to the first ever laurence fox news show. whilst it may not bode well for the ratings that are shown number one kicks off at the exact time as the english bull chases kneeling in supplication to saint gareth and the waistcoat calls inclusivity and at least gives me a reason to share my with you rather than sitting through silly, hypocritical virtue signalling . hypocritical virtue signalling. i reckon it'd be better if they did the or something, but then

that be appropriation, that would be appropriation, which very apparently . in the which is very apparently. in the days before the bull chases became political activists, i a passionate england fan. i remember watching italia 90 emotions fired by nessun dorma blaring out of the telly box , blaring out of the telly box, lying swiftly on the sofa in, the throes of glandular fever as lineker pre canonised and fled the bowl elegantly bonnet into the bowl elegantly bonnet into the net. i remember it like it was yesterday. the strange look which came over his face looking for will demand of joy. or as it turned the look of a man who followed through and st gary was probably through pretty much non—stop ever since . i remember non—stop ever since. i remember the full one against holland in euro 96, the five one drubbing of the germans in germany football tournament for the greatest biennial biennial to the nation, bringing us all together right up until any penalty when it was mostly game oven penalty when it was mostly game over. but one thing football wasn't particularly back then, which hugely political memory

things have begun to change . i things have begun to change. i found myself every italian penalty in the last year as the england penalty takers their minds no doubt with colonial guilt. having begun the game kneeling to the housing corporation formerly known as black lives matter , played black lives matter, played a game of who could take the worst . perhaps let the italians win out of a strong sense of this inclusivity. st gareth southgate tops on about continuously the stunning bravery of this modern team never ceases to humble and amaze me. special mention st harry of the kane for his revolutionary demonstration of solidarity , the gay community of solidarity, the gay community of qatar for wearing this gorgeous £520,000 symbol of resistance and. defiance. only lewis rainbow helmet in bahrain has ever move me closer to tears . ever move me closer to tears. finally we will be discussing sleek turbans cutting roofs to make sure you can never afford to drive again . the great to drive again. the great unwashed who refuse do what they are told and continue to

exercise dangerous levels of independent thought by choosing to drive their own. instead of taking public transport walking or cycling in the rain to work are clogging up the roads in their disgusting vans , their disgusting white vans, adding vital extra journey to siddique turbans. multiple rover convoy as he tweets sagely about the climate emergency soon to be walked by the sun monster. if we do not decolonise our vehicular insurrectionist will now have to pay insurrectionist will now have to pay extra insurrectionist will now have to pay extr a £12.50 if they made pay extra £12.50 if they made the mistake of within the m25. now that's before the congestion charge . impossibly inevitable charge. impossibly inevitable low traffic neighbourhood's taxi action in the name of salvation. if sadiq can't get you out, he will price you out or for own good. but don't worry. there is some good news on back and i'm going to be extremely . that's going to be extremely. that's exactly what i told the producers when they offered me this job. producers when they offered me thisjob. driving producers when they offered me this job. driving tonight. i'm thisjob. driving tonight. i'm going to ask you how many lgbtq lives have been saved by st

harry of the keynes rainbow timepiece . email harry of the keynes rainbow timepiece. email me at gb harry of the keynes rainbow timepiece . email me at gb news timepiece. email me at gb news at gb news. or treat me at of folks . the mayor of london folks. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, announced today to go ahead with expanding ultra low emissions aim to cover all of greater london from august next year. an estimated . 160,000 next year. an estimated. 160,000 cars entering the ulez zone will have to pay the daily £12.50 fee, despite 80% of people affected to the plans in the pubuc affected to the plans in the public consultation. sadiq turpin says that the cleaner the will benefit around 5 million people. with me for the mother of all mayoral our former mayor ken livingstone and fellow mayor failure not failure. we both won shaun bailey writer ken , you shaun bailey writer ken, you started this low emissions

stuff. what do you reckon? well it was back in 1992. i introduced the low emission zone introduced the low emission zone in central london, the number of people driving in went down 12. the of people being killed went down by about 12. and the pollution and emissions went by about 12. and so if this reduces number of people driving into london , it's going to save lives london, it's going to save lives because , i mean, in the eight because, i mean, in the eight years that boris johnson was mayor, he all my plans to extend this and do this a lot earlier and his eight years, 76,000 londoners died from air pollution. i a thousands of people voted for me killed them. how did you get started? just before i came, shaun how did you know? 76,000 died from air pollution ? well, i don't know. i pollution? well, i don't know. i never would have been dying to come years ago. now, my come in years ago. now, my recorded from 77 recorded on their deaths from 77 years trap. sorry all years old. every trap. sorry all right. so what do you make of it? look, the first thing we

have to say is londoners have spoke said no. over 60% spoke and they said no. over 60% of the who voted for this of the people who voted for this said no. if you remove all the campaign groups, actually goes up 68. and let's clear. they up to 68. and let's clear. they didn't this on reasonably . didn't do this on reasonably. the mayor's study these the mayor's own study these words a no legible change in air in out of london and what came did is markedly different from siddique is doing. what king did was stop one of the busiest cities in the world to death. what sadiq is doing is charging people out in the suburbs who don't have an alternative to pay £12.50 and import and fing here is the poorest people. it is a small business. it is the cherry who will be paying this because can't renew their vehicles. and they're the ones who'll be closed down. he's own figures say that something like 20% of businesses can just go missing . businesses can just go missing. and what's important about that, that small businesses that give local children a start. if you've got a kid at home now who isn't crushing school. where do they they the local to they go? they go to the local to start city college closed

start a job. city college closed that business down. that's a good point. so can the saying that it's full thousand £500 extra for someone who lives within all london boroughs to drive their car every year in the middle of a lockdown ? surely the middle of a lockdown? surely you're to help the poorest in society as a former labour help the poorest by getting more cars increasing public transport. i mean this year when i introduced the congestion charge i mean and that number of cars went down by 12% the number of people giving them a button the went out them a button the tube went out and i mean i ended up buying 8000 new buses and getting rid of the 5000 crackdown. all right . if you provide good public transport and make it cheaper than driving car, people will switch. for me, the crucial thing is i'm 77 now. i mean, i could really vulnerable to the air pollution we've got in london. and as i said , you know, london. and as i said, you know, thousands of people are dying it all the time. so i support what he's doing. i wish he'd done it

a lot sooner. it doesn't make a good point that it was a different . it's not then it's different. it's not then it's not only a different era. it's a different place. let's take ken's point. ken is correct . if ken's point. ken is correct. if you provide good public transport people, use it. i'll tell . london transport people, use it. i'll tell. london is transport people, use it. i'll tell . london is notorious transport people, use it. i'll tell. london is notorious for having poor transport links, absolutely dismal transport. and under this mayor they have gotten . just the other day he gotten. just the other day he proposed bus cuts you turned on those bus cuts and then tried to sell himself as some kind of saviour. he saved us from him. but the important point to show two things. one, there no alternative out of london . and alternative out of london. and what london is do they make london viable? we live far out . london viable? we live far out. say that as someone who's a far in london. we make the big we pay in london. we make the big we pay the big public transport costs. and then he punishes us with an additional cost. and here's the key point about this, we just exist in london. there's people from outside of london. you're your personal cars, your hair , your florist, your hair, your florist, your plumber. if they have to pay, what will they do ? they'll just

what will they do? they'll just pass the cost along and make even more expensive to living. this is a of living payment forced on poor people by city khan. and if he doesn't u—turn that, then we should take him task. because there's an issue now because of the way in which he did the consultation . and he he did the consultation. and he could potentially be taken to court because there's legal court because there's a legal thing consultation and thing around a consultation and it show that you didn't it has to show that you didn't pre—empt that you pre—empt anything and that you gave consideration . he gave it due consideration. he made one hour. if made this decision one hour. if he expects to believe he got the results of consultation an hour late and made such a big decision, a £200 million decision, a £200 million decision, i might add why we're meant to believe . i think this meant to believe. i think this that there could be a legal challenge coming but when i introduced the congestion charge the majority londoners were the majority of londoners were to it. but once it worked that switch and i think if sadiq goes ahead and does this and it works there'll be support for it. well, it's going to work, isn't it? because you can get richer. but we're talking about is but what we're talking about is we're talking about people right at end they've spent their

at end of they've spent their day money. they spent for not two years their wages on increasing this record inflation . people are at the very end of that that to throw a four and a half grand bill at them top of an energy bill on top of everything and i thought sadiq khan and i labour stood for the poorest in society do and that means making public transport better fares down. when better keeping fares down. when i brought in the charge i also cut the fares that boosted things. and the simple is we need to be getting people out of their cars. on why why what you and i could both be dead from air pollution . oh, sorry. it air pollution. oh, sorry. it took one second show. sorry. and i don't believe . i can't live in i don't believe. i can't live in domesday land . i can't believe domesday land. i can't believe in some months the land i acknowledge the fact that man has an effect, acknowledge the fact that man has an effect , the climate and has an effect, the climate and all this stuff. but when you look at the improvements made , look at the improvements made, car and this car technology and all this stuff . is car technology and all this stuff. is this car technology and all this stuff . is this mayor of stuff. is this not the mayor of london turning around and going if i can't you out of your car i will price you out your car will price you out of your car so you acknowledge . so you

so that you acknowledge. so you do sadiq khan's do what? me? sadiq khan's ideological vision of london is. and in the short to buy a car. how come you can't afford to pay taxes because a congestion charge costs more tromping around in london costs more if you live or out london. you live or out of london. buying a car, i'm afraid it's starts off grandiose if you ask anybody lives beyond zone free what like go across that what it's like go across that border i know start telling you nightmares. but here's the important thing. it will deliver nothing . his important thing. it will deliver nothing. his own important thing. it will deliver nothing . his own report uses nothing. his own report uses a word . and if he really wanted to word. and if he really wanted to help people travel around london. he'd do as khan says he'd reduce peak. he would use transport costs, hasn't. transport costs, but he hasn't. he's about to spend £200 million. oh cameras that will go out of date . he's got about to out of date. he's got about to spend £110 million on a scrappage which sounds scrappage scheme, which sounds until find he wanted the until you find out he wanted the government spend million government spend 180 million on it. what is his turn? he only spent most of spent 110 million and most of all he broke a promise . he told all he broke a promise. he told london londoners, if there was over opposition to this, he would scrap the scheme. 68% people against it, particularly

the who are going to be affected by it is overwhelming. he he has not done he's done. he's lied. he needs he needs. so you told him this to make londoners pockets last a bit longer? look, when brought the congestion charge in the majority opposed to but once it worked they to it. but once it worked they changed. and i khan does this i suspect within a few weeks, the majority will say we back it. no, because it won't work. let's be clear. let's be clear. can what you did was address one of the hot spots in all europe. yeah, that's hot . does not exist yeah, that's hot. does not exist in london it simply is not true. what you ken was help transport happenin what you ken was help transport happen in inner london there was no in london euston over london and that kind the kind of you to find a way. come on, you are the final . sell find a way. come on, you are the final. sell it to me. why? you want to make someone? well, i don't want to make anyone poorer . i want save lives . i want to save the lives because. as said, because. as i said, it's negligible . so it could all die negligible. so it could all die . air pollution, thousands do every year. i want that . and one

every year. i want that. and one way of doing that actually , way of doing that actually, whilst allowing people to drive is get more electric vehicles and use in that direction . the and use in that direction. the reason i'm doing that and to get more charging . no, he's not. he more charging. no, he's not. he could have spen t £200 more charging. no, he's not. he could have spent £200 million on buses. he could have made the whole bus. fleet electric zero emissions. he could have given us more charging points. he could have made it. he could give 60 plus back the give 60 plus people back the right before he could right to travel before he could have you could done have done that, you could done what ? he because we've got to what? he because we've got to wrap up the government hadn't cut . thank you've got it right cut. thank you've got it right we and an ideology ahead of practicality i think it's what we've learnt here thank you show the end of my life to do a fair right. well coming up next, i will debate a set of guys to the south woke warriors in qatar should continue to take the knee despite wearing armband because they're finally the yellow card back soon,

sooi'i. soon. welcome back. i've heard reports england did indeed take the knee and the usa didn't. which is slightly so. england kneeled to st george floyd and america didn't. strange. anyway let's go back to audience question. one viewer on twitter said there's no point in blaming harry kane. place the blame really belongs. where does it go wrong ? explain where does it go wrong? explain that to me. john says how much further have women's rights in guitar been improved with the plus? not and protests? exactly another viewer. we have no more right to tell others how to run their country as they have to tell us how to run us. by doing so we've become hypocrites. i do agree with actually agree with this actually this idea you who knows

idea that you who knows everything about guitar okay we can disagree with that the gay and lesbian policies but we don't know that the cultural context of what they're doing and we're doing is and actually what we're doing is we them with we just recall them with wokeism. so do think it's any of our business, ashleigh on twitter are you so twitter says, why are you so scared rainbows. not scared scared? rainbows. i'm not scared of , actually. i just of rainbows, actually. i just want inclusive . and want them to be inclusive. and for us . phil says. only for all of us. phil says. only time tell. no, not nice . felt time tell. no, not nice. felt right now as we. england are playing their game of this year's world cup in the middle east against the us before the first game against iran. they dropped to their knees in a gesture against . racism or gesture against. racism or actually inclusivity is gareth said. joining me a pub in sherburn in elmet is gb newsroom your honour, riley and how is the atmosphere . i don't think the atmosphere. i don't think she's joining us in the pub. the atmosphere. i don't think she's joining us in the pub . oh, she's joining us in the pub. oh, hi. there's an electric . hello?

hi. there's an electric. hello? can you hear me? i can . how are can you hear me? i can. how are you doing ? handler yes, i'm in you doing? handler yes, i'm in they are fellow arms. a north yorkshire. i'm. there's an electric atmosphere here. it's still, it's the mail but we're keen to get it going so is there anything british comedian to the pub on a friday night? i'm watching the england game . those watching the england game. those brits love a sports event . brits love a sports event. what's bigger than the world and a head football is coming now. oh get got . oh get got. to let you go. lawrence football's . that's the lawrence football's. that's the message here in yorkshire typing about yorkshire what i say right now joining me now is femi niland and two and a writer. now joining me now is femi niland and two and a writer . and niland and two and a writer. and if i may. how are doing? not

bad. how's it going? yeah, good . and what do you think about the players taking the knee ? i the players taking the knee? i think is perfectly fine. i think the protesting against one moment. sorry i think protesting against racism is they have every right to do so and i think they they're using the same arguments as they did the past they when they did it in the uk in the premier league they were talking about domestic racism and they were talking about the stuff that was going on in england at the time. they're england at the time. now they're in country in has a lot of in a country in has a lot of problems with migrant labour most stadiums for the most of the stadiums for the current cup have been current world cup have been built using migrant labour which has from the philippines come from india, come from bangladesh . and a lot of people have actually died. stadiums actually died. those stadiums and they have a global platform . there's something with them taking the knee. i don't think there's issue that. so do you have an with it if there if the

protesting or making some sort of gesture about the treatment of gesture about the treatment of migrant . and lgbtq rights in of migrant. and lgbtq rights in why turn up at all and pay why make the most powerful gesture of all and just not refuse to partake in the world cup . well, partake in the world cup. well, i think some countries talked about possibly dropping out of fifa was it denmark that discussed the option of dropping out of fifa? and i think that were a very powerful country like the uk where the premier league held to take a stand and, boycott the world cup . it may boycott the world cup. it may well have an effect on helping to tackle the within fifa and some of the issues we've seen around migrant rights. things like boycotts are very powerful, but england hasn't chosen do that. unfortunately, we're not unfortunately necessarily. but it hasn't chosen do that what it wanted to do that it may well have effect it hasn't chosen wanted to do that it may well ha do effect it hasn't chosen wanted to do that it may well ha do that. zect it hasn't chosen wanted to do that it may well ha do that. zect isayingt chosen wanted to do that it may well ha do that. zect isaying that sen to do that. but saying that someone gone all the way someone hasn't gone all the way and therefore they can't take someone hasn't gone all the way and action)re they can't take someone hasn't gone all the way and action at they can't take someone hasn't gone all the way and action at all y can't take someone hasn't gone all the way and action at all is:an't take

someone hasn't gone all the way and action at all is thet take any action at all is the slippery slope argument. that's like many people , issues with like many people, issues with the migrant rights , but they'll the migrant rights, but they'll they'll still watch the occasional match and i'm not criticising because everyone engages to the level at which they will engage. i can still criticise them. i can write things even if i do decide to watch a match and support england nigeria or england or support nigeria or anything, think i think. gareth southgate is was explicit in what he said in the press conference which is that he's not they're not kneeling against this, they're not kneeling about the migrant workers, they're not kneeling against lgbtq. right. they're kneeling for what he calls inclusivity. can tell me what inclusivity is. please for me as far as i'm i mean i wasn't of that statement but the wording as far as i know means including people that is times when you exclude people and there are times when you include people . segregation was a matter people. segregation was a matter excluding people. when you take groups and you say you're excluded, you're not allowed to

engagein excluded, you're not allowed to engage in this. excluded, you're not allowed to engage in this . if you are engage in this. if you are including what i think the world cup is an example of inclusion because people from all over the they together and they mix they come together and they mix and people different cultures and people of different cultures meet other. meet each other. it's unfortunate year's unfortunate that this year's world cup has been marred by so many issues, but yeah, including people from an lgbtq background and including people from minority groups , including minority groups, including people who have different views of different backgrounds and making that everyone is represented because humanity very diverse. qatar doesn't . very diverse. qatar doesn't. sorry to interrupt you. qatar doesn't include gay and people and that's part of it's the structure of society. so why is gareth if they're kneeling for inclusivity , why on earth are inclusivity, why on earth are they there? it's like all values and standards in the world, like you're saying that we're colonising them with with by trying to press lgbt rights on

them, which i thought was a very interesting choice of phrase, because saying that we disagree with some of their policies is not quite same as colonisation. colonisation was a very brutal and very destructive process where we actually went and forced something on that view. if we were drop, were there any good things about becoming colonial? were there any good things colonisation ? i things about colonisation? i don't know . were there any good don't know. were there any good things about empowering colonies . or things about empowering colonies. or few , comparatively to the bad few, comparatively to the bad things , very few comparatively things, very few comparatively to the many more bad things than good things . but regardless , if, good things. but regardless, if, if, if on one hand you're saying we re colonising them with wokeness and we shouldn't be, but then on the other hand, when england says, well, let's take a stand about this you're saying that is a poor example of that qatar is a poor example of human rights because of that. so you told me. lawrence, do you support qatar or do support qatar's right to imprison people

for being gay or do you think that it's a bad thing that they do that ? i think i don't think do that? i think i don't think it's a good thing that anyone should be prejudiced for being gay or anything like that. but i also don't think that it's my country and i have a right to make the laws and so make up the laws and so therefore would around therefore i would turn around and highly hypocritical and say it's highly hypocritical for england to make these for england team to make these giant for england team to make these gian t £520,000 for england team to make these giant £520,000 timepiece gestures as to understand that planning around and you know i think just you know i think the punst think just you know i think the pundits paid to turn out i think the cowardice of harry kane to refuse to wear the rainbow armband the one love armband because he doesn't a yellow card. i think it shows how and pathetic you say that when you say that in the way it's not going to make those in a country when you say it's not your right to go in and make of the laws of country. do you think then that when england invaded libya, what helped and america invade libya and overthrew their the guy that

gaddafi because they didn't like his policies or when we into iraq and we invaded iraq to overthrow saddam hussein because we didn't like his policies any of the foreign interventions that we make all over the world all the time in other countries because don't like what they're doing. do you think how you think that compares to someone wearing , armband i wearing, an armband saying i disagree this or wearing at shirt with a rainbow which is not in effective way not really in effective way going to have an impact on what qatar does. it's just i was talking more and first of all, to answer your first question, i think england's in the you know the west america and allies invasion of iraq was despite all and based on a lie and that is awful and i think that when we try and export certain parts of values overseas is a terrible but i think that the cowardice displayed by the england captain to refuse to wear one love one another. what armband? because you don't want a yellow card

goes to show how hollow his group these communities it's just a virtue signal for me but then backing out if you are going to do something why you take the needs to put policy right that that girlfriend why don't they do that i agree with agreeing with you i'm saying have repercussions for the england team to say we're going to do this and then for fifa to say , oh, well, you there's going say, oh, well, you there's going to be a repercussion you might say, oh, well, you there's going to la a repercussion you might say, oh, well, you there's going to la redepercussion you might say, oh, well, you there's going to la red card jssion you might say, oh, well, you there's going to la red card and n you might say, oh, well, you there's going to la red card and them might say, oh, well, you there's going to la red card and them mback get a red card and then to back out well, we're no out of and say, well, we're no longer do that means longer going to do that means they aren't actually ready to engage protest. i'm engage in the protest. if i'm going to something going to a protest to something and you go and then someone, you might go to doing protest . to jail for doing that protest. and don't show with and then i don't show up with the risks the protest. protests have risks . and so there is something that is kind of like, okay, well, we can't do the thing which might have a repercussion, so we're can't do the thing which might havegoingercussion, so we're can't do the thing which might havegoing to :ussion, so we're can't do the thing which might havegoing to :ussicthe o we're can't do the thing which might havegoing to :ussicthe knee re just going to take the knee instead because that's going to happen. doesn't that happen. but that doesn't that they the knee. they shouldn't take the knee. that that that doesn't mean that them taking isn't . so taking the knee isn't. so i agree with you that there's something about something questionable about stating i'm going to wear this armband and then not wearing

this of the fact this armband because of the fact that and i think fifa as well has role to play in saying in has a role to play in saying in censoring and saying not censoring people and saying not allowed to express your views in allowed to express your views in a very very, very benign way. so i think fifa an issue in waiting in cowardice expressed but that isn't to say that taking knee which has a long or not a long history a very short history. it's only since colin kaepernick has a within sports as it clearly represents anti—racism. it has a certain value to it. there's nothing wrong with them doing that. if we have a problem with them pulling out of wearing the armband, that's something which can talk separately. which we can talk separately. but doesn't mean have but that doesn't mean i have problem taking the problem with them taking the knee. problem with them taking the knee . well, actually, knee. well, actually, weirdly, i think in this conversation i've understood we're miles understood that we're miles apart terms of some of the apart in terms of some of the things that that don't work. i just think that taking the knee supplication and always has been but it's been real pleasure to but it's been a real pleasure to hear your perspective, is hear your perspective, which is which is great to hear. so thank you very much, femi . right

you very much, femi. right coming up , is there an end to coming up, is there an end to cancel culture? can we cancel cancel culture? can we cancel cancel culture? can we cancel cancel culture? this we shall discuss in a few minutes. cancel culture? this we shall discuss in a few minutes . we are discuss in a few minutes. we are gb news the people's channel. i'm right across. gb news the people's channel. i'm right across . the united i'm right across. the united kingdom. you can find us on sky channel 512 virgin media . channel 512 virgin media. channel 512 virgin media. channel 2604 freesat channel 216 freeview . channel 236 and you freeview. channel 236 and you view channel 236. you can also take us with you on dab plus with the gb news app and the website gbnews.uk. we're absolutely everywhere. come us on gb news. the channel. britain's news .

channel now you may have heard that i have been from the team. well, sort of say for the most anti—woke means my son hunter, hence why i'm here and i'm very pleased too. but discuss cancel culture and hollywood the bastion of white korea and how we can in a world with differing views is. american entertainment mogul, lawyer and documentary maker stephen shot stephen is that end in sight for cancel culture ? no, no , it that's the culture? no, no, it that's the history of mankind . what happens history of mankind. what happens is i history and i'm known as metaphysical says. so i study energy and what comes at you so we do mankind is done for our entire time here in earth . you entire time here in earth. you know, i write books about this . know, i write books about this. what we do is so we live in a balanced . so we want people to balanced. so we want people to go way or that way will we tilting the seesaw ? we get tilting the seesaw? we get everyone to go there . and we do everyone to go there. and we do that by getting your energy . so that by getting your energy. so we need to get something that upsets. more than 50. so

therefore now all of a sudden, anidea therefore now all of a sudden, an idea , an energy starts the an idea, an energy starts the roost, ruling the nation. so it becomes culture and then we have people that go against culture to change the rule we're system that we just don't get it. but we don't have a balance. isn't that what arts is was for religion is to challenge culture. yeah, there shouldn't be the area where this cancel culture is being most vociferous anti because . it's stopping anti because. it's stopping people expressing themselves all its expression. here's what like i'm older and i look at my life now as an elder and. i'm i'm honoured that i'm here to do this and i'm not going to stop. look at the earth . did that look at the word earth. did that come from quite e ort look at the word earth. did that come from quite e or t h get rid come from quite e ort h get rid of v, get rid of h 40 left with art. look at heart ort of v, get rid of h 40 left with art. look at heart or t the symbol. so are there these awards are talisman. the is art. what is the art ? we came here to what is the art? we came here to play. we being a consciousness that fell into a body called

earthlings . we came here to earthlings. we came here to develop. we came here to discover, love to understand love is about the ramifications so the high and low and the and if you go and had a balance your energies you a longer life and that's the purpose so very quickly the time that we have left what would advice to someone who wanted to become artist be now would you ask them to go full fledged into world or to go full fledged into world or to keep their mouth shut so they work. no, go it . you have work. no, go for it. you have one chance. you don't if you have more chances. my and i had a record label with one of the biggest record labels and he ended dead , you know, because ended up dead, you know, because he caught up with this band he got caught up with this band called young lin. and my son couldn't handle the energy . and couldn't handle the energy. and i myself . you know, it's i blame myself. you know, it's we had a huge record label. he had everything he wanted. and you know, but the truth is, i expect life with him we went to 23 countries i produced music all over the world. i produced of your top stories here i was

the lawyer the manager the package or i was whatever i had to do to get that thing heard. and what i'll tell everyone if you have a dream , you need you have a dream, you need a team. if you don't a team, you will not live dream. you could play will not live dream. you could play golf all you would not golf. it's not life . you need golf. it's not life. you need a team if you have a dream , get a team if you have a dream, get a team. yep. no no dream and absolute pleasure to speak to you. and i'm very sorry to hear about your son. no, thank you. and honoured to be on your first show. thank you much. now show. thank you so much. now you've like you. you've got good. i like you. thank steve. thank you , thank you, steve. thank you, rice. coming up, you won't want to miss it . rice. coming up, you won't want to miss it. it's me full of boxing for writer kellie maloney in my new feature we're calling it dishing . but seriously, it dishing. but seriously, someone send a better title than dish out because i'm currently on this one anyway. don't go away . see, in a on this one anyway. don't go away. see, in a minute.

welcome back. i have saved the best part of the show to last. earlier today i went to talk trends with lunch with boxing kellie maloney for a chat and a bite to eat a food. we didn't eat . for a day. how are you eat. for a day. how are you here? nice to meet you . i've here? nice to meet you. i've been looking forward to this . been looking forward to this. you read of that? well, not bad or bad . no, not some bad. some or bad. no, not some bad. some good. depends on what side of the spectrum you want to come from . your views? yeah. do you from. your views? yeah. do you think it's important that people should express their views? yeah, i believe. i believe in free. i believe that we should be what we want and be able to say what we want and buy by meeting and talking because i'm sure your views. my views are totally different, we

will maybe come to some common ground at the end this conversation well both grew conversation well we both grew up religious families up in religious families you grew in an irish catholic grew up in an irish catholic family, didn't you? i grew family, didn't you? and i grew up family. so up in a religious family. so i'm sure some internal workings sure we some internal workings from our business, from the religious orders tell me so you you've said you're not feel different about six things that right now felt. i felt very different from the age of free but i didn't know what it was pre it wasn't till i read the story of actually when i was about years old and about 12 years old and i realised what i was. but that i knew they had all different terms for what we today . terms for what we have today. the world just moves on, world changes. the world just moves on, world changes . i can't even remember changes. i can't even remember being three. i'll probably come somewhere . but so what did you somewhere. but so what did you feel it through? you felt like you wanted to. you just felt different. i didn't know how. i felt. just didn't feel like felt. i just didn't feel like the boys , we say. but i the other boys, we say. but i obviously being born a boy and having an irish father, tried that. that was very minded. and,

you know , his own way. religious . i you know, his own way. religious. i what expected. and then i. and you lived your whole life since she took up to up to new 60. really? yeah have taught me how you lived till 60 without. well i saw the as i say the article of a proof actually i saw had a british creche totally destroyed and pulled it down where she was when the discovered in a previous life she a male. i also read the story of caroline crossley who was the first i bond girl that they discovered was a trans woman and how that destroyed her and she lost. and i just thought to myself i would never ever admit i would fight it and obviously as my career grew in boxing and you managed to heavyweight champion the world. i didn't think it was quite good idea to focus there i felt and so i was always , shall felt and so i was always, shall

i say, fighting myself in a living, a double life . i had two living, a double life. i had two people in one body. and what impact does that have on emotionally? so you're, you know , it's like anything if you if you if you trying to keep something secret . and i suppose something secret. and i suppose it with of that it must happen with lots of that i've who come out to his i've got my who come out to his father because he's gay and he was that his dad wasn't oh so he can tell his dad you know essentially i'm not gonna be able to you with some sums and adds and they ended up not speaking for a while so what did you it to you you what does it to you emotionally being able i emotionally not being able i think it sort of think mentally it sort of destroys you but you try to build a life that you can live in. and i was very lucky, you know , had family and i enjoyed know, had family and i enjoyed what i'd done. the was my if i hadnt what i'd done. the was my if i hadn't had boxing i think it might've been a different you know i enjoyed i enjoyed doing the deals enjoyed i just enjoyed it it wasn't a job. it was a passion that's part me wish i could have done is kelly because i think i have been a much

better manager and promoter why is that because it would is that because i think it would be more i think because be more on the i think because i fighting myself i was a very aggressive around little man you know made lots of comments i shouldn't have made . but you shouldn't have made. but you probably have to be angry and, aggressive when you're dealing with megabucks world with big megabucks world heavyweight champions. well you know, you can always stay a little bit different to the other sharks in. the should other sharks in. the pool should a trends boxer able to box another you know should have trends we're going to go why not just ask the question about trans women in sport it's much easier know in boxing it's different i, i, i don't know the answer to that but in i would i do not think so there are certain sports. i would say other sports. i would say, you know boxing is definitely one where i don't think it should happen. where i don't think it should happen . trans men should be happen. trans men should be allowed to box . that should be allowed to box. that should be their choice but they shouldn't be lads box women either because obviously their bodies pump for testosterone. yeah what would

say which sports would you go for which get their kelly thumbs up darts snooker and snooker non—contact sport. so yeah definitely non—contact you know at moment is still a minefield and if i'm honest i'm trying to read my way through that minefield because one day i read. yes it's okay to say athletics . another day someone athletics. another day someone will say no . so it's one of the will say no. so it's one of the one times i can i hate to say i see it on the for. one times i can i hate to say i see it on the for . face me so see it on the for. face me so this two issues you see little miss hughes , not a fully miss hughes, not a fully transitioned female , was a male transitioned female, was a male up until beating lot of biological females. so that's again where i'd probably defer to the trans community . again where i'd probably defer to the trans community. i don't see when you're in transition that's very difficult. i think that's very difficult. i think that you should be allowed to take part in any sport until you've fully transitioned . you you've fully transitioned. you lived that body for so many

lived in that body for so many years and the hormones have taken. then they be examined. i think that's where we're wrong . think that's where we're wrong. the science will not take someone at certain age levels and measure them against biological women . yeah, because biological women. yeah, because you you look at the girl who was 11th in that situation you see all these stuff of athlete in america in the sprints and stuff like that. there's lots of girls you've been their entire lives to try and succeed and you've got transgender athletes male female transgender athletes coming and taking that away feel a female opportunist at least be honest how many transgender athletes are they? you know many. there's that so. but and they use as a to kick around to abuse community what need is proper scientific evidence from both sides both sides need to come around the table of using social media to attack each other. both sides need to down

and discuss it like adults and let the scientists come up with the answers . but let the scientists come up with the answers. but in the meantime, should there not be like an open category. yes. i mean, so you can have an open category would be fine now i don't think there'd be a problem of category. then they of an open category. then they can , you know, there can choose, but, you know, there are it's just very hard subject . i do feel for anyone is trans and they are into their sport because it very hard because i do feel isolated . yeah and do feel isolated. yeah and i think that i think that feels well obviously everybody because you don't speak for everybody but the vast majority of people feel compassion , everybody else feel compassion, everybody else and respect the understanding for that decisions. adults make. what are your thoughts on i see you said it was you were three when you began nature something different. what are your thoughts on on what would be an appropriate consent kids appropriate age consent for kids start or young adults to saying well, i think i'm in the wrong body again that's the choice of the family of that of the child

but it's not the choice of the family of the child at all, because what's happening is kids are going into school certainly in america and, you know, it's happening and here happening more and more here and saying wrong body and saying i'm in the wrong body and the are letting them the teachers are letting them live as a different kid in school as they are and at home. so the family is not always involved . i don't think that's involved. i don't think that's happening where they live it's serving at home as of being at school because obviously the school because obviously the school tell parents how the school will tell parents how the child live behaved in schools that a parent would know from day so it's i've always day one. so it's i've always said this when i do my diversity talks of chats to families if the child comes out and says that just let the child if it's natural the child will find own way and we'll be truthful you know and if it if it is a trans jo that will come through. if it's not, then it will will not come from . puberty blockers come from. puberty blockers which is what is the option you've got, which are lupron which is not non—expert. and that's something i just we're

clear that whatever this son is as you say getting the two together, this science is quite it's very new or some people say the puberty blockers are reversible, some say they're not reversible. so once again, we have this dispute again, the medical field to come together and a proper paper that will at the families, i believe. but yeah, i mean, i'm with you but it does puberty boxes are used to come straight, right. this in america. so i imagine they're not that reversible. it just seems quite new. so in terms of kids, do you that do you think that the explosion in trans kids when you say explosion it's a small minority the way you're making it, everyone's going to wake up and be trans the next day, it's not going to happen. this doesn't like that. you know that that child will know there's something different with them and hopefully their family will support . and that's that's

will support. and that's that's the best you can hope for. i knew, but i had no one to tell at age. yeah, but would at that age. yeah, but i would say you're more exception say you're more of an exception than. say you're more of an exception than . the rule. do you know what than. the rule. do you know what mean? i don't know what you mean, but you know, you've lived. lived very full life. lived. you lived very full life. and you and you, you know, and then you and you, you know, i see you struggle with you were struggling but you made struggling with but you made decision in your decision at a period in your life where you would go. you've experienced a great deal. i don't just really hard don't i just find it really hard to believe that child who hasn't experienced anything really yet, they're not even independent from their parents. they've not lived lived a full enough life to really know who they are can have that capacity to think and certainly in terms of surgery , certainly in terms of surgery, stuff like that, you can't you can't have surgery till you're 18. i believe in this country . 18. i believe in this country. so i mean, it's not if a child thatis so i mean, it's not if a child that is four or five says, oh , that is four or five says, oh, feel i'm a boy, i'm a girl, not they're not going to surgery the next day . they still got a long next day. they still got a long way go get surgery. and way to go to get surgery. and they to go a number of they have to go for a number of medical to go through medical they have to go through a of psycho changes,

a number of psycho changes, you know, it's a long journey , a know, so it's a long journey, a long, painful journey for. know, so it's a long journey, a long, painful journey for . that long, painful journey for. that person, if i could have my life again and i was born to i would transition a earlier. you would. yeah i think i've missed that and i've had a very full life. i've had a good life, you know, i've had a good life, you know, i had a nice family but deep down at the end was destroying my family and i was destroying and my and my around me because i was living the life. yeah. so i was living the life. yeah. so i get that and i tried to encourage and support your transition. i just think it's very different from a child doing it with, with the mental capacity children have i mean i wasn't making i still make smart decisions and i even making smart decisions until mid—twenties and they're saying a lot about development of the male brain that male brain doesn't really kick in until he's about 27. we have the female brain in a male body. you've got a female very in no matter you do fine, but not matter what you do fine, but not what it was. i haven't had a brain transplant. my brain has been there all the time. yeah

but a lot of, as i'm saying, 80% these kids that are left alone and are not encouraged to transition turn out to be either gay or lesbian . there are gay or lesbian. there are charities and there are support groups that help them groups that will help them children and help them families . and i'm sure that some of them that have got started in that journey it's journey realise it's not it's not exactly the journey they want and stopped at some they've gone all the way and found real peace in their life and happiness . exactly. but what do happiness. exactly. but what do we do with . the ones that have we do with. the ones that have have drastic medical steps and then regret . it's a very small then regret. it's a very small minority. if you look at the figures on is that. yeah well terrible and would suggest no and that would you know the tavistock clinic is now being closed down isn't it , tavistock clinic is now being closed down isn't it, as a result of some of that process because they've changed their operation there's more more regional clinics being opened and the world change and the world will change changes as we more young changes as we get more young people know, people the people. you know, people the show different and as long as we

respect each other as human beings what does it matter what 7 beings what does it matter what ? we call ourself respect as human beings is more important than a label slagging somebody . than a label slagging somebody. i don't know whether it's respect that we should be after or whether it's tolerance we should potential , we should be after potential, we say, well, i don't agree. a lot of people don't respect at all. and tolerate them and and i'll tolerate them and i won't, but i don't respect them . and i suppose you be we're talking about individuality. you're saying we're all individuals. i agree with you . individuals. i agree with you. but then just the but then why then just the lgbtq+ lobby. batman saw an exclamation mark. just decide to lump gay, lesbian, trans gender, bisexual to separate all into one community. do you think not being used as a as a of taking minority groups , exploiting minority groups, exploiting their vulnerability to push a political agenda ? i don't really political agenda? i don't really know because i'm not a political animal. well, it's been a pleasure talking you and even though we don't agree on the

kids stuff, i do agree and respect and encourage your right to be loved and seeing the occasional respected. i'm not worried about the love you don't worry about that. yeah, yeah but we need more love in this world. i that but we respect and love you follow it . can i please say you follow it. can i please say is my family love me? that's the most important thing to me. yeah, exactly and is just to meet you . well, that was me and meet you. well, that was me and it's so lovely to be back. next up is patrick christys. see you next 7 pm. on.