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welcome back. you watching gb news. i'm bethany elsie here to bnng news. i'm bethany elsie here to bring you up to date an independent review into the london fire brigade has called it institutionally misogynist and racist. it reveals accounts from a black firefighter who had a noose placed by his locker . a noose placed by his locker. women being groped and people having their helmets with urine. the review was commissioned after firefighter francois espirit took his own life in 2020. london fire brigade have said the behaviour isn't acceptable and they welcomed all
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23 recommendations. the prime minister has said he has enormous respect for nurses, but their pay of 19% is simply unaffordable . staff in england, unaffordable. staff in england, wales , northern ireland will wales, northern ireland will walk out for two days on the 15th and 20th of december in their first national strike in over a century. the royal college nursing has accused the government of rejecting formal talks as an alternative to industrial action . but rishi industrial action. but rishi sunak says he's hopeful they can find a resolution . i know things find a resolution. i know things are difficult now for everyone because of what's happening with inflation, and that's why all plans that we outlined last week get a grip of inflation and bnng get a grip of inflation and bring it down. that's really important. and in the meantime, what the unions are asking for, i think, is a 90% pay rise. and i think, is a 90% pay rise. and i think, is a 90% pay rise. and i think most people watching will recognise that that's unaffordable and that's i'm pleased that the health secretary is sitting down talking the union and talking to the union and hopefully we can find a way through meanwhile, through this. meanwhile, teachers scotland will strike
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for a further 16 days next year in dispute over pay. the education institute of scotland say consecutive days of action will split across every council in the country across january and february. it's after yesterday's closed nearly all primary and secondary schools . primary and secondary schools. in other news, the foreign secretary has announced a new support package for ukraine as 30% of the country is still experiencing blackouts. following the latest of russian air strikes during his first official trip to kyiv, james cleverly , 35 more emergency cleverly, 35 more emergency vehicles and a further cleverly, 35 more emergency vehicles and a furthe r £3 vehicles and a further £3 million to help rebuild the country . similarly, i think it's country. similarly, i think it's important that the uk demonstrates the ukrainian people who are bearing the brunt of this brutality from russia that we are standing shoulder to shoulder with them through our military support, through our humanitarian support , through humanitarian support, through our economic support , but also our economic support, but also through the visible support and
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to the world. england have missed out on a chance , secure missed out on a chance, secure a place in the final 16 after a nil nil draw against the usa in qatar in the al bayt stadium. the team were booed by disappointed fans as the final whistle went and support watching on from a fanzone in south london were furious by the result throwing cups and spraying drinks. england can still make it to the knockout stages . this match has piled on stages. this match has piled on the pressure heading into tuesday's eagerly awaited repeated clash with neighbours wales fans say england didn't perform well tonight. i know we're devastated after the iran game it's been a 6 to 3 you think in slide for your next game if go in it's just nothing us we were just a bit slow and whole bit just didn't press the ball didn't go for it nothing just played it safe. at the end of the day. i think we should still get for the group puts a lot of pressure on the wales game on tuesday night but yeah
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our wasn't good our goal weight wasn't good enough i'll. still enough tonight i'll. still practise at home. this gb practise at home. this is gb news on online and db plus radio. now it's time for headliners . headliners. good evening. welcome to headliners. i'm andrew doyle and i'm going to be taking you through saturday's top stories with a carol and nick the with a fire carol and nick the big dog dixon. with a fire carol and nick the big dog dixon . let's have a look big dog dixon. let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages. first, we can start with the daily mail has now full daily mail. mail has now full battle of britain . the front battle of britain. the front cover of the telegraph runs way that not enough is being done to help the next generation. as the princess of wales now on her new campaign paper campaign saturdays i paper tories fear mass exodus mass exodus mps before election on saturday the guardian care charities are forced to evict residents. we'll be covering that in just one moment. and the financial times has a qatar
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rethinks stakes after ad ban hsbc froze accounts linked to tory peer during corruption probe saturday's mirror world cup where a yawn in the us a well that's not a surprise we're going with saturday's times now stop tweeting and get on with the job police told and express parents rate pensions to bail out loved and finally saturday sun they also have a yawn in the usa oh there's also a daily star but it's an identical front cover an identical headline and were your front pages . and we're were your front pages. and we're going to kick off the front cover of the mirror here . this cover of the mirror here. this one's you. what have you got .7 one's you. what have you got.7 not a one's you. what have you got? not a very compelling photo for any of the wags. they have been snapped. three of them. england players. kyle walker, aaron ramsdale had their respective girlfriends , have been caught girlfriends, have been caught yawning in what was quite a dull draw it's not really front cover
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news people yawning i think the papers probably so excited that they thought of this part they've all raced to win in the us yet this is the same headline on the sun, the star and the mirror yeah journalistic integrity here. it's integrity up here. it's criminal. lack of imagination, isn't i you've got to isn't it, nick? i you've got to find yeah struggling find something. yeah struggling with a nil. nil. mean, with a nil. nil. i mean, i missed it due to being here. i was invited cool. hi. was invited to a cool. well, hi. it's fine . i'm special. i'm my it's fine. i'm special. i'm my personal adam. look, everyone's getting a bit worried it. but we often have a tight game with the united united states united states united states tough team that's all organised not they're hard not that great but they're hard to it probably a to beat i thought it probably a draw still the draw we're still top of the group so that's the main thing we always make a little for we always make a little bit for ourselves playing ourselves and we were playing wales you got wales next and usa you got remember also have a grudge remember is also have a grudge match of 1776 match as well because of 1776 that's in the air that's that's still in the air what happened in 1776 the whole us leaving the whole revolution . yeah yeah i remember still residents is of that. yeah, yeah, yeah. oh massive goodness. many people have long memories. i mean wags wags the wax. many people have long memories. i mean wags wags the wax . what i mean wags wags the wax. what girlfriends. wives and girlfriends. wives and girlfriends and girlfriends. okay. mean, but is quite
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okay. i mean, but is quite bonng okay. i mean, but is quite boring isn't it. football. and i think that power think the know that the power that from what that you know from what i understand the reason why people get is get so excited about it is that because so frequent because goals are so in frequent and goal you this and so when a goal you get this kind infused and this kind of infused and this ecstatic nature is that is not we be around the six two. andrew what talk about infrequent i love that you're sort of try understand you sound understand football you sound like alan partridge describing a bicycle as a kind of piston yes all this you're describing goals for years like you've read in a dictionary you've never seen a football team. so i did some recent so now have a of recent and so now i have a of quality i would love to quality what i would love to understand people care understand is why people care so much it but that's because much about it but that's because it's our great glorious it's our great it's glorious game and when game that we invented and when gave i'm not that gave to the world i'm not that good at but we're quite good at it. finest exports. are it. moment finest exports. are you football fan? i you a massive football fan? i mean thank you very much. take mean thank you very much. i take that compliment . okay. that as a huge compliment. okay. not okay. well, i think not no. well okay. well, i think we cover that comprehensively. i'm going to be by the times what the cover of the what are the front cover of the times , well, times room with, nick? well, i've stop tweeting and on i've got to stop tweeting and on with police told . this with the job. police told. this is a this is stephen watson ,
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is a this is stephen watson, constable greater manchester constable of greater manchester of him. he's got a name . he's of of him. he's got a name. he's of course proven to bit course he's proven to be a bit of a because he's saying of a legend because he's saying that he officers to get on that he wants officers to get on with criminals and with catching criminals and answering nine, nine, nine calls. i imagine that that would catch police we catch a bit like a police we could call it. but yeah, i look, the tide could be turning finally on all this stuff. people are so of the police people are so sick of the police on twitter. he's calling it fluff and nonsense. he's saying, we've says, we've got to stop that. he says, look, not at social look, we're not good at social media. that we media. it's a skill that we don't media. it's a skill that we dont good don't have, even if have good intentions. sometimes intentions. and sometimes you saying the intention is pure virtue signalling . so he's virtue signalling. so he's basically back basics basically saying back to basics , wearing arrest if , stop wearing the men arrest if saw that i did that ridiculous vest where a man thought he had you tried to emulate the menopause hot vest. menopause by wearing a hot vest. people of this stuff. people are sick of this stuff. and saying, let's get back and he's saying, let's get back to being an police force. to being an actual police force. and he's apparently massively improved his improved statistics in his his it was his area of special measures in less than two years. and the time it takes answer 999 calls has fallen sharply. so he's doing actual work. he's doing actual police work. right. this right. so there isn't this the point about point that we might think about this, stephen character, his methods are working mean his
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police force are doing particularly because is particularly because he is adhenng particularly because he is adhering to old school ideas about policing that right. i think if there's a net that any form of crime or any of behaviour changed as behaviour has changed as a result of someone being in power. to look the power. you have to look at the net net as to the net net result as opposed to the methodology took methodology that they took together. the together. you don't think the methodology is there's causal methodology is there's a causal between the methodology and the result? there a result? no, i think there is a causal relationship. i think result? no, i think there is a calhas relationship. i think result? no, i think there is a calhas enough ship. i think result? no, i think there is a calhas enough in p. i think result? no, i think there is a calhas enough in my i think result? no, i think there is a calhas enough in my mindink result? no, i think there is a calhas enough in my mind to do he has enough in my mind to do whatever he likes and you feel that the police do spend too much time tweeting and telling people. not i personally things onune people. not i personally things online mean if they're trying cajole people into behaving better then that's one thing. but they are signalling and but if they are signalling and wasting time and wasting taxpayers money essentially on social media, i don't want to see want them protecting see it. i want them protecting women streets women on the streets at night. i want them protecting from want them protecting people from domestic they're domestic abuse. so what they're actually jobs , actually doing their jobs, following and. i following up on leads and. i don't hear about what don't need to hear about what sandwich don't need to hear about what sandvthey need to do job. think they need to do their job. i suppose that's the i mean. i suppose that's the point, it, nick? that a point, isn't it, nick? that a lot of the time they do lot of the time that they do tweet know, don't tweet about, you know, don't say anything offensive, don't say
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anything unkind. well those aren't they aren't crimes. no, no, they don't any scope . these don't have any scope. get these hate hate , non hate non internet hate, non instance whatever they instance hate, whatever they call those crime hate. thank call those are crime hate. thank you. now a of the you. which are now a of the past. yeah they're nonsense and that's look, that's what he's saying. look, you further you don't need to go any further than principles. it than peel's principles. it was all says officers all in there. he says officers should professional and never should be professional and never political. all there political. that was all there in peel's principle. peel's original principle. you don't stuff. don't need any of this stuff. and says . officer insists and he says. officer insists officers every burglary officers attend every burglary and out that matter to the and call out that matter to the pubuc and call out that matter to the public like criminal damage and antisocial behaviour. this is what from police what people want from the police is it seems is of course. well, it seems a no brainer. now we got it no brainer. but now we got it took to get onto the took us a while to get onto the telegraph. now and from telegraph. now and a vow from the princess of wales fair. what's latest campaign about she's determined to improve the lives of under—fives ? she's lives of under—fives? she's saying that the princess way is not enough, is being done for our it's our future generation and it's by focusing on this particular demographic , which is obviously demographic, which is obviously our youngest up and colonies, yes, are protecting future yes, we are protecting future generations to create a healthier , happier society for healthier, happier society for them. that makes sense, them. well, that makes sense, but what specifically she to but what specifically is she to do order to the under—fives?
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do in order to the under—fives? i think it's mainly to do with their education. the princesses are an incentive . early are an incentive. early childhood is working to improve the lives of children to care for and it's following for them. and it's following research which was compiled by centre highlighting the widespread understanding centre highlighting the widesprea�*importance anding centre highlighting the widesprea�*importance ofding about the importance of children's the children's years in the development . so i children's years in the development. so i mean , i development. so i mean, i completely understand that she has this initiative, but i'm also thinking how many other initiatives there are that are equally worthy of praise. i suppose you've got to choose something. i might have to choose think my choose something. i think in my day we happy if we got a hot meal, pat on the head. titus meal, a pat on the head. titus smiley i mean, that smiley face. yeah. i mean, that wasn't in day, wasn't the same case in my day, i they're serious i think they're just serious into what into the sandpit and that's what i'm. vagueness is not is i'm. but the vagueness is not is not saying well actually not saying well it is actually quite you story quite vague if you read story there nothing you know there is really nothing you know but that's was asked she's but that's why i was asked she's talking a safe, loving talking about a safe, loving world but world around the child. but i think the criticism is there isn't there in isn't actually much there in terms of specifics. but it's good she's doing something. terms of specifics. but it's gmean she's doing something. terms of specifics. but it's gmean we ;he's doing something. terms of specifics. but it's gmean we obviously; something. terms of specifics. but it's gmean we obviously; s01king'sg. i mean we obviously our king's obsessed climate stuff we obviously meghan with the obviously had meghan with the ridiculous self obsession but this why love the this is why people love the princess because she's
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princess of wales because she's focussed on children and, the future. very selfless and future. it's very selfless and it's, sensible even it's, it's very sensible even though so far it seems like a bit detail, that sort. i bit of detail, that sort. well i suppose point that suppose she has a point that those are formative years. they first five and you know if first five years and you know if you if you get things wrong there, with, know there, you end up with, you know . so i would like nick yeah , . so i would like nick yeah, well, the london school of economics says it 16 billion to remedy long term mental and physical have physical issues that might have been avoided through intervention. interesting intervention. okay. interesting to what she does next. anyway, we're to have a look at we're going to have a look at front cover of the express next. this story on funds. this the cover story on funds. this the cover story on funds. this pension pensions. your this is pension pensions. your parents pensions to bail out loved ones . it's a bit of a loved ones. it's a bit of a tragic story. it's obviously due the cost of living and so on and says a 500,000 people would do 3.6 billion from their pension pots. i if they've got 3.6 billion that they're doing all right joke that right on but little joke that joke too really but it says that 24% of people have already accessed are planning to use retirement funds help deal retirement funds to help deal with but of with rising living costs. but of the problem is, there's also a fear that run your fear that you run out of your pension. you underestimate how
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much although my much you need. although my grandmother she was sort of grandmother she was the sort of hold it it never saw any of it but that's a separate but but that's a separate issue but generation is sort of the boomer generation is sort of the boomer generation , so on. tend to generation, so on. they tend to have more money and there is the argument. and starmer was making an interesting which we'll get to was this to later he was on this chopper's politics podcast but he interesting that this he made an interesting that this could the first time that the could be the first time that the next generation better off. but we don't that feeling we don't have that feeling anymore well, it's not problem. well, i mean, it's not that people are dipping into their of their pensions because, of course, to course, it's very to misunderstand how important that is. and this article points out, i mean, there's the pensions minister, baroness altmann is sort of saying that if you take a small amount out of your pensions now it's the difference between having a really secure retirement and having a retirement and having a retirement period in which you have to struggle. and because people are so present tense orientated and we are in a cost of crisis, it's not of living crisis, it's not surprising, that people surprising, it fair that people are to. no, and are going to resort to. no, and i so interesting mean i think it's so interesting mean sir it might sir keir starmer saying it might be the first time that we have
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less security in our sort of retirement. i mean, feel like retirement. i mean, i feel like we're blindingly we're stating the blindingly yes here. a10x the here. we had maybe a10x in the real market where. you real estate market where. you bought then you bought something and then you just to a just happened to become a property millionaire the and property millionaire and the and noughfies property millionaire and the and noughties and. it's really very much going to be generation's sort of jointly that experience this when we get to the age of maybe 55 you know 6065 where we realised that actually the nest egg that we put aside, we will have to continue working . well have to continue working. well then course comedians the then of course comedians on the whole nest, whole don't have a nest, do they? does generally they? does that generally do pension happy pension. the flipside happy just continue for working working forever somebody will forever until somebody will literally dead on stage . literally drop dead on stage. well that's sort of is i think the assumption comedians well that's sort of is i think the ithey1ption comedians well that's sort of is i think the ithey die )n comedians well that's sort of is i think the ithey die young. comedians well that's sort of is i think the ithey die young. comedithe that they die young. i think the last generalist got last generalist show that's got it that's why i've moved into serious . yeah exactly and now serious. yeah exactly and now we're going to move on to the front cover of the guardian . front cover of the guardian. yeah. what's this about? so this actually a rather concerning story . this is disabled care, story. this is disabled care, home residents being evicted in dispute between charities and councils . right. so the charity
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councils. right. so the charity leonard cheshire have said that they've had to take drastic step of evict eating vulnerable residents with complexes because the council will no longer float deficit and they to meet the fee increases. and this is just another iteration of the deepening social care crisis that the country faces . it's that the country faces. it's just a lack of money, but is simply this is a kind of bluff, though when said though because when they said they're evict these they're going to evict these these elderly people who these these elderly people who need care, it's actually here that two of the notices were rescinded after the council then said, we'll pay for it. so said, okay we'll pay for it. so was it a kind of bluff in order to get the that they to get the result that they want? any indication, want? i think in any indication, you wait and to take it you have to wait and to take it to the degree. but i there to the nth degree. but i there are evictions have are some evictions that have actually and who actually been enacted and who have been evicted have essentially said we feel like we're being punished because of the being played the hardball being played between the councils. and it between the councils. and is it the this the case nick? i mean, this article out that , you article points out that, you know, they're not going to become you become homeless because the you know, and the nhs know, the council and the nhs funding legal to find funding has got a legal to find an so it's not the an alternative. so it's not the case that that's it's going to go to that that those sort of
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extreme measures but does extreme measures but it does have the have echoes of care in the community from the 1980s community scheme from the 1980s when tories just kicked out when the tories just kicked out and community and expected the community to come and in. and that come and step in. and that doesn't always happen, does it right. have seen recently right. and we have seen recently councils threatened with bankruptcy actually bankruptcy or actually going bankruptcy or actually going bankrupt and as someone says here, be an nhs here, there needs to be an nhs level for social care level of funding for social care maybe i mean is the big maybe i mean that is the big promise social care just underfunded some might underfunded although some might say excess is another say that excess is another problem not me. of but people on the far right might say because of too much pressure on services . do think he's got . okay do you think he's got a point ? that's point there? that's not his point. he's obviously merely been yeah, exactly . been saying, yeah, exactly. opinions of of them opinions of others of them mentionable. i think that the pressure that is on health services right now is absolutely beyond belief and the budget of hundred billion, that is for , hundred billion, that is for, the nhs is not being considered , it's not being seen by the people who need it. that is, we're going to take any we're not going to take any commentary a story that's commentary from a story that's coming up about nurses striking we'll come to that in a moment. thatis we'll come to that in a moment. that is the end for part one.
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welcome back to headliners with me, andrew doyle . taking you me, andrew doyle. taking you through saturday's newspapers with the comedians. i think , with the comedians. i think, carol and nick dixon. let's straight into it. so i started these independent . well what's these independent. well what's happening the tories are raising taxes and labour want to cut them things upside down. it's bizarre world starmer wants to cut taxes for working people clobbered by tories and this was on the chop as politics podcast . i listened to the whole thing. it's quite funny because the tories outflanking tories have been outflanking labour from the left for ages now , trying outflank now, trying to outflank the tories right . let's
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tories from the right. let's just terms of voting at just go in terms of voting at this point, know it's mad, but this point, i know it's mad, but what doing what well starmer's doing is quite he drops these quite smart. he drops these socially conservative things. he he to just stop oil is he says to just stop oil is silly says, sing silly he says, let's all sing the national anthem. let's go on strike. and to try get strike. and it's to try and get as votes possible. as many votes as possible. obviously is obviously the only question is how going do it? how are you going to do it? he says, to the says, we want to grow the economy. only way we economy. that's the only way we can that we need can make progress that we need to make. it doesn't quite to make. but it doesn't quite say going do say how he's going to do it. they going to they ask what is he going to cut? rate of income tax. cut? basic rate of income tax. the pe. didn't he did the 19 pe. he didn't say he did that and gas profits that the oil and gas profits from billion tap from war 170 billion on tap unexpected profits. he said we should tax properly . but should tax them properly. but what's ridiculous is you what's quite ridiculous is you know he's been hammering the tories on liz budget so tories on liz mad budget and so on but then he's saying you know we've got the highest tax burden since war, it's since the second world war, it's great. now he's holding the conservatives account for not being enough, being conservative enough, saying in the saying he spied a gap in the political . the conservatives political. the conservatives aren't conservative so aren't being conservative so labour may as well be that is i'm mean bizarrely i'm saying i mean bizarrely i mean also will realise mean he also will realise there's threat from former there's a threat from the former uk but also uk just to the tories but also to labour and he's, to labour. and so he's, he's being shrewd it all
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being quite shrewd about it all the i mean he's saying we the cases, i mean he's saying we need grow our economy. that need to grow our economy. that seems the key here, which seems to be the key here, which was exactly was going was exactly what trust was going on mean it's a central on about. i mean it's a central message the through. message all the way through. i think that we think the most thing that we have with is the growing have to deal with is the growing that mean, there is that we have. i mean, there is no that we're going be able no way that we're going be able to the increase. i think no way that we're going be able to are the increase. i think no way that we're going be able to are about increase. i think no way that we're going be able to are about 4003ase. i think no way that we're going be able to are about 400 billion think no way that we're going be able to are about 400 billion now. so we are about 400 billion now. so casual of money and it casual amount of money and it was 44 billion was the whole then the last time i checked the whole don't think that's whole was i don't think that's what that by what it was five times that by ten times about ten has at some point big doesn't really point big it it doesn't really matter it just become matter does it just become monopoly my mind monopoly money? in my mind i just how it could ever be repaid. what do you think about this? i also saying he's this? i starmer also saying he's ruling swiss style ruling out a swiss style agreement the eu too and agreement with the eu too and sunak sort of pushing that through total revolt given that starmer was there was the architects the labour disastrous second referendum policy that complete scuppered labour's chancesin complete scuppered labour's chances in the last election. so he's just doing a complete about face mean he's a politician right you're getting the obvious but i think made a really valid point. he's going off the reform
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votes. great it's a votes. yes it's great it's a strategic i mean he nick doesn't we cannot we can't afford to make promises we can't keep. he's learning from the tories mistakes that, you know, he's very he the funny thing very careful. he the funny thing about is exactly about some of the is exactly what is talking about, we what this is talking about, we talk sincere is he because talk how sincere is he because he's actually a pablo est, which is a strange splinter group of trotskyism. and used to edit trotskyism. and he used to edit this magazine socialist alternatives . so he is a radical alternatives. so he is a radical leftie, but he's also a pragmatist. to win pragmatist. he's trying to win an it's like which one will an so it's like which one will win? what saying , will he win? what i'm saying, will he get secretly a get in and then secretly do a lot things. but lot of really leftie things. but at moment he's obviously at the moment he's obviously trying socially trying to capture that socially conservative vote it's bit conservative vote it's a bit like biden in as the like joe biden in as the non—white candidate and pushing through possible woke idea through every possible woke idea andifs through every possible woke idea and it's very much like that if that's what happens if it's what happensi that's what happens if it's what happens i mean but he's also talking about not allowing the scottish to have another referendum things like that. he's taking a very firm line early mean, look, it's in early on. i mean, look, it's in the him. is the bag for him. think he is going next? going to be next? prime minister, isn't nick? oh, it does does seem way. when i
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does does seem that way. when i was this, think, was listen to this, i did think, yeah, going yeah, he's definitely going to win so we'll win and the tories and so we'll on to that in a minute whether the will wiped out. the tories will be wiped out. well move on to well okay well let's move on to saturday's and a saturday's guardian and in a first first in first for the first time in about a century, nurse eyes are going on the picket line . going to be on the picket line. it's incredible. so it's absolutely incredible. so we've had with barristers we've had it with barristers we've had it with teachers and i think quite understandably at this point, nurses have said, well essential workers during a pandemic , we're going to strike. pandemic, we're going to strike. but one thing i will say is that 19% increase wages , that's what 19% increase wages, that's what they're asking for. i mean, that's i understand it's extreme. i think it's extreme. but everyone negotiation, that's like taking someone's opening and smashing across the papers and smashing across the papers and saying this is their opening position. it's the case that position. but it's the case that year year they have a sort of year on year they have a sort of a cut in real terms. absolutely. and so this making up for and so this is making up for many of neglect . many years of neglect. absolutely. so i personally believe that 19, if we had the money. absolutely. pay them . money. absolutely. pay them. absolutely. they're worth their weight gold. i mean they keep weight in gold. i mean they keep this afloat. the this country afloat. the doctors, nurses and the
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doctors, the nurses and the people who, you know, return policemen, firemen, that of policemen, firemen, all that of stuff . but i policemen, firemen, all that of stuff. but i am policemen, firemen, all that of stuff . but i am also policemen, firemen, all that of stuff. but i am also a pragmatist and i don't know where that extra money comes from. or is it the allocation, the middle , the nhs that needs the middle, the nhs that needs to make sure that 200 to make sure that the 200 billion going right billion is going the right places, 7 hours places, but i spent 7 hours nanny night and nanny on wednesday night and i left without being seen and left, without being seen and understood to they to understood to be, they had to prioritise traumatic cases and recess see and they are so recess and i see and they are so strung out they absolutely beside themselves with exhaustion so if we could give them 90% i'd i'd i'd want that heartbeat . i mean it's not the heartbeat. i mean it's not the case nick that of all the people that we should be paying more i mean nurses should clearly be a priority mean is going to priority mean that is going to be the 15th of the be striking on the 15th of the 20th a key 20th the december right at a key a time for nhs. a very busy time for the nhs. this this be disastrous this is a this be disastrous couldn't yeah. yeah. the couldn't it. yeah. yeah. the fact it's the royal college fact that it's the royal college of is first in of nursing is first strike in its year history suggests it its 106 year history suggests it is situation i'm sure is a serious situation i'm sure it's tough. this is the most nurses leaving the nhs 2011 and although 40% of them can't strike due to low turnout on the
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ballot, so they're not allowed to strike. but the only thing i'd say , and this is i'd say, and this is controversial inflation is what's driving down their pay in real terms. yes. and you could say, well, the nhs seem to be very pro lockdowns and aren't lockdowns a large contributor to inflation they inflation? i don't think they were economic terms were thinking in economic terms . the lockdown. no, . it came to the lockdown. no, but but lockdowns were clearly wrong. said time, wrong. i said at the time, surely just wrong . the surely they were just wrong. the economic cost is one of the many costs well, saying costs of. well, i'm not saying it means shouldn't it means they shouldn't have a pay it means they shouldn't have a pay just saying pay rise, but i'm just saying it's i mean, it's interesting. i mean, i think that's a slightly different there was different debate. there was no i mean, we all agree mean, i think we can all agree with have been with that. they have been underpaid many underpaid for many, many, many years, and years, for many years. and actually, i was speaking to a friend and his friend of mine this and his father a surgeon, father is a surgeon, particularly cancer and particularly prostate cancer and he was saying that they're losing agency losing so many to agency employment and the nhs have a lack of nurses to fill the void and they hire from agency because then make so because they can then make so much more money in agencies. so we have to retain the talent we have order to ensure that have to in order to ensure that we're to have any form of we're going to have any form of staff nhs. we're going to
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staff in nhs. we're going to have pay them at some point. have to pay them at some point. okay. the now okay. well sticking with the now big the us. a new big news in the us. a new entrant in the 2024 presidential race . yeah, this is mad. kanye race. yeah, this is mad. kanye west announces 24 presidential bid amid right ties. the guardian that although for once they actually are about quite right wing people so kanye has launched his bid. he's got milo on board to help him , who had a on board to help him, who had a big part in getting trump elected in 2016. but that was the scandal, wasn't it? yeah, he was cancelled for something he said , age of consent and said about, age of consent and so on. i'm we don't need to go into but not only that, he into that, but not only that, he bought nick fuentes and kanye bought nick fuentes and so kanye arrived at this meeting with trump with nick flint as is a very controversial online polemicist, has show called america first. he was banned from flying domestically and internationally. at one point he had half a million dollars frozen in his account from an fbi investigation. he was at charlottesville he was at the january six protest, but not at going into the capitol. but he figures and ties with white nationalism . he's a very nationalism. he's a very controversial figure. the
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controversial figure. and the fact sure wouldn't fact i'm pretty sure wouldn't have realised he was coming to the meeting and people actually tried flint as was tried to deny that flint as was at meeting. but others close at the meeting. but others close have he actually definitely have said he actually definitely was was meeting with donald was was a meeting with donald trump . carney in and he trump. so carney came in and he said, bringing milo with me trump. so carney came in and he said i'm bringing milo with me trump. so carney came in and he said i'm bringing] milo with me trump. so carney came in and he said i'm bringing nick) with me trump. so carney came in and he said i'm bringing nick fuentese and i'm bringing nick fuentes with kind of a bizarre with me. it's kind of a bizarre sort up. then sort of teaming up. and then trump was said to have been dazzled by fuentes. so think about fantasies if you saw him on that louis through bbc documentary whatever got documentary whatever he's got his but he is very even his extreme but he is very even a god and indeed. he was charismatic funny , charismatic he's very funny, charismatic he's very funny, charismatic and very smart. so trump, if didn't know his background, think background, might just think he's talented he's guy with all this talented young man and the problem is he's going to have to come out and over now because and disavow over now because that there was a phone call halfway meeting halfway through the meeting and some and the whole some only came in and the whole tone changed. was tone had changed. suddenly was angry starts attacking angry and he starts attacking kim and kanye's kim kardashian. and then kanye's like the mother children, like the mother of my children, bro. it all apparently just bro. and it all apparently just went there . what went downhill from there. what a pantomime. i mean this does seem ridiculous. last time pantomime. i mean this does seem ridi
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two days later didn't he on twitter. something we twitter. so is this something we should seriously? well, should take seriously? well, i think the think it's interesting the strategy at the when strategy at the time when i think was 2020 was that. yeah. so it seemed as though as if this might be a similar strategy. so as a third candidate for republican vote, is he trying to split off perhaps the black vote in america that would perhaps otherwise have been for in a ruse essentially at the last minute collaborate and throw his weight behind trump? that was a thought that i had . but i think thought that i had. but i think coming back to the central point, this is a man who incited hatred and violence recently and is a very, very know, outspoken anti—semite . and the fact anti—semite. and the fact someone who has, whether it is illegal in america or not, but someone who is to say those sorts of things and then run for president in the same breath within the same quarter is i mean, it's a really, really isn't he just delusional mean the police don't suffer from mental health then there is a line where if you're suffering from mental health that is
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obviously you to well obviously you have to be well and, you have to pass. yes i mean, in america as to whether can actually even run the country and whether he would ever that, not good. ever pass that, he's not good. he can't. well, it's not he clearly can't. well, it's not quite it may not as mad as quite it may not be as mad as you this sense. you you think in this sense. you could a of could argue kanye is a kind of reform america. is , along reform of america. he is, along with milo and people like nick flint are to hold flint as are going to hold donald account to be donald trump to account to be the radical figure they the kind of radical figure they wanted in 2016. so people like flint disappointed flint, we're very disappointed with trump speech, with this recent trump speech, which jason . which it's rumoured jason. miller i notice which it's rumoured jason. milleri notice i haven't been miller i notice i haven't been to me that's true, but it to ask me if that's true, but it was much more toned, moderate was a much more toned, moderate speech, the milo said, speech, whereas the milo said, look, to this , not what look, this is to this, not what we want radical we want. they want the radical trump 2016. but this is the problem with have these problem with when you have these radical they radical figures and they surround themselves people who are and, are effectively sycophants and, courtiers. over courtiers. exactly they over inflate their own sense of popularity actually any of popularity and actually any of these run, they're not these people run, they're not going well, going to get anywhere. well, we're fact we're going back to the fact that carney said slavery was a choice. do think that someone choice. do we think that someone who sorts of claims choice. do we think that someone who play sorts of claims choice. do we think that someone who play neatly ;orts of claims choice. do we think that someone who play neatly disregarding s and play neatly disregarding hundreds of years, thousands of
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years of oppression should be on the world stage at all. i mean, he can run this, but i just think he's going to be the question. he said as role models, we rap, we don't think he actually make quite a good president. the question is not whether carney get the whether carney will get the numbers. trump i'm in numbers. trump shouted. i'm in a meeting. going to meeting. you're not going to win. question is whether win. the question is whether he can account push can hold onto account and push him policies. him more towards the policies. the wants the further right wants basically. and the thing basically. and the amazing thing is asked trump to be his is carney asked trump to be his vice which apparently vice president, which apparently go is quite go down that well, that is quite funny fair saturday's funny to be fair saturday's i now and nigel farage mulling a return to politics so we've just been talking about this and how carney may be the reform and equivalent of in america. but nigel farage is potentially looking to return to politics with reform predominately the conservatives drawing of a brexit migrants and essentially the globalisation and swiss brexit deal that . rishi sunak is brexit deal that. rishi sunak is we hands is thinking about thinking onto what we were talking earlier. factories are failing in all of their traditional modes of conduct terms of being conservative.
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new kind of arrangement, labour saying going saying they're not going to do that, leaves window that, which leaves the window open farage to say open for nigel farage to say well really feasible . well is it really feasible. because know when you have because you know when you have these in these third parties come in there's they can do there's a limit what they can do because past post because the first past the post system, we don't have proportional representation exactly . a exactly what farage is hoping. a change to proportional representation implement representation to implement that. he believes that. well, exactly. he believes that. well, exactly. he believes that maybe labour will some that maybe labour will in some sort of coalition, starmer sort of coalition, which starmer said wouldn't. but said today they wouldn't. but yeah, that's one way we can yeah, so that's one way we can also just pressure the conservative to actually be conservative, but it's bound to happen you've got happen is that you've got 500,000 migration per year. 500,000 net migration per year. that's the equivalent of bringing in a new liverpool every and wants , let's every year. and who wants, let's be not even be honest. so that's not even including illegal know the including illegal or know the growth numbers probably like 1.3 million. so that opens the to someone reform as those as someone like reform as those as you're talking about the swiss deal you the potential deal you know the potential reversal on brexit i said reversal on brexit i just said the extent of the betrayal of brexit will determine whether he comes not and know it's comes back or not and know it's just an obvious i don't even think necessarily that think reform necessarily that conservative that like thatcherite some thatcherite liberals would some conservative instincts but yeah it's going this left wing it's going to be this left wing then of course this to
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then of course this is bound to happen. it's interesting times i believe in politically anyway we're going move to we're going to move on to saturday's times how if the saturday's times now how if the gates internet hell no good well thatis gates internet hell no good well that is a ridiculous quote this guy matt navarra who was some sort of social media consultant and he's freaked out and triggered by the fact that elon musk wants an amnesty for anyone he's been from twitter. he hasn't broken the law or engaged in so—called egregious spam. he put out another one of his polls, 72% said, yes, let's have these people back. musk once again said vox populi, vox de the voice of the people is the voice of god. so trump is enacting democracy, which is something the kind media something the kind of media cathedral like kind of big cathedral don't like kind of big tech, mainstream . they don't tech, the mainstream. they don't like they don't like like democracy, they don't like free. it's a great time. free. but it's a great time. it's a golden of twitter. free. but it's a great time. it's iyoulden of twitter. free. but it's a great time. it's you might of twitter. free. but it's a great time. it's you might find twitter. free. but it's a great time. it's you might find karl:er. free. but it's a great time. it's you might find karl benjamin and you might find karl benjamin is back on this saga. sargon jordan on the jordan peterson's back on the babylon back these babylon, back on all these people. back , kathy people. looking back, kathy griffin's the show. griffin's back on the show. we got left. tate got from the left. andrew tate is back on. andrew tate, the top g. so let me ask you this,
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though. you have some reservations clearly about you don't should don't think that everyone should be think people be let onto you think the people who accounts nuked who have their accounts nuked while under the old regime they should in the twitter wilderness . i think it raises a really interesting point. what i want to see is parity between legislation and legislation. so i want to see the statutes which are enacted for hate speech in person. so if i say something to you, which is legally hate speech, there is something that then will have me punished in then will have me punished in the court of law . the problem the court of law. the problem with one knows what with that is no one knows what hate mean, we've hate speech means. i mean, we've had elon musk put had this poll that elon musk put out graph showing that hate out a graph showing that hate speech impressions have gone down his era twitter . and then down his era twitter. and then there was another poll by a group called centre for countering digital hate who said the they said since musk is bought twitter hate speech has up nobody knows what hate speech means it just means whatever speech i hate doesn't it then? no, i don't think it does. i if you for example if you you take, for example if you take a case in court, for
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example, and so many of the cases that i would studied dunng cases that i would studied during my law degree, there is, you know, you can cause by your words, you're talking about incitement to violence . no, no, incitement to violence. no, no, no. i'm saying, for example , no. i'm saying, for example, like the definition of assault is the apprehension of spittle landing from your mouth onto face. yes. so are you saying that's what i just did . i have that's what i just did. i have a witness now, but i'm saying that in a court it i mean, words are different. so you're saying the spoken word is different or the of what is different? what i want is between want to say is parity between the spoken held up the spoken word being held up and the same way and accountable in the same way that i would be that the rhetoric. i would be disturbed if thought the spoken word was being legislated in court. i mean, that's a real problem. we saw people like count criminal count dracula has a criminal record a joke. he record because of a joke. he told not talking about told no, i'm not talking about policing jokes. i'm talking about race, racist slurs about people race, racist slurs , engendering hate . but on , engendering hate. but on twitter, though, some of the people who have banned have never done anything of kind never done anything of the kind . you i'm saying those . you know, i'm not saying those people who either are maybe satirists , who are gender satirists, who are gender critical , who have critical feminists, who have
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simply that there are simply said that there are differences women, differences between and women, you know, kind thing. so you know, that kind thing. so that come under that doesn't come under the purview what i'm talking about purview. what i'm talking about in think is in terms of i think there is a argument for freedom of speech so well on that you do you do thayer's view that's actually when people are saying racist homophobic sexist things , they homophobic sexist things, they should be banned. well, not necessarily . but what i'd say to necessarily. but what i'd say to thatis necessarily. but what i'd say to that is that the hate speech rule was already place when rule was already in place when most speech have gone most said hate speech have gone down. jordan peterson , what is down. jordan peterson, what is hate speech mean here ? and most hate speech mean here? and most said, just simply going said, we're just simply going with definitions. so with the extant definitions. so the same definition that the previous sort of lefty twitter had. the same . so had. so that stayed the same. so that's okay , that's gone that's perhaps okay, that's gone down on the mosque. the other thing that is that people thing on that is that people aren't about mosques aren't talking about mosques prioritising sexual prioritising of stopping sexual exploitation. this is massive thing, he said. that's going to be one. that's be priority number one. that's something that prior twitter never sort out . but never managed to sort out. but all people say, all these triggered people say, oh, term. ap said , the oh, it's term. like ap said, the onune oh, it's term. like ap said, the online safety . however, these online safety. however, these people are saying that the of mosque is going to be less safe.
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meanwhile, people who actually worried about exploitation worried about child exploitation saying way saying it's going to be way better. we're talking better. so no we're talking about a great he's doing. about what a great he's doing. they're just worried that he's triggering okay. well, triggering the libs. okay. well, coming up, really hate the word. and night break, and the night after the break, we're looking at we're going to be looking at more the internet more censorship on the internet we the dangerous we don't look at the dangerous world also does world of deepfakes and also does being a backstabber make you a better say in a couple of minutes .
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and welcome back to headline this your first look at saturday's newspapers me andrew doyle and a think carol and nick dixon . so continuing on the dixon. so continuing on the internet theme. so we have the onune internet theme. so we have the online safety bill it's getting through parliament so we're skipping over backstabbing. yes just looking at the okay so this onune just looking at the okay so this online search is actually seen
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so first things first. it's taken a huge step . this is a taken a huge step. this is a safety which has seen four prime ministers since it was first proposed in 2019. and the general aim of this bill is protect children and generally make online more . and what do make online more. and what do they mean by safer? i mean , the they mean by safer? i mean, the problem with this is so we're talking about the likes of money russell which is a russell for example which is a huge in for i think huge moment in for i think onune huge moment in for i think online safety issues 14 years old it took the court old and it took the court a sizeable of time to go through six months worth of targeted depression, suicidal ideation . depression, suicidal ideation. and very dark instagram was the biggest proponent of content that. she watched and she was influenced by but internet safety campaigners have welcomed the news as families but it was essentially saying that we have to do more to protect this aren't you slightly concerned that if you give the onus to social media companies and say you have to delete legal but harmful speech is a phrase that has been. yeah, yes it is. what this actually mean that
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this will actually mean is that speech banned right and speech will be banned right and centre and we just have more incidents censorship. so actually on this i was very actually my on this i was very quickly trying to come up with you know , salvation for everyone you know, salvation for everyone yeahin you know, salvation for everyone yeah in 10 minutes. it's a big claim and just to come up trying to put the words rights without much of forethought but , the much of forethought but, the minimum age for instagram is the minimum age for instagram is the minimum age for instagram is the minimum age to vote is 18, and our frontal lobes are not formed until we're 25. so what we're saying is actually when you go on a, let's say, app instagram, which is algorithmically programmed so that it's releasing on a dopamine loop and you're incredibly vulnerable and impressionable stage of life, maybe we should looking at fine keeping but harmful content so we're not you know curtailing people's freedoms but the minimum age for instagram that's potentially something that be increased because at a 30 minute bill for that oh do just need more responsibility from the internet company this is something well the times said that this gives ofcom more power
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than spies . and obviously we're than spies. and obviously we're an ofcom regulated channel was once love ofcom but that is once i love ofcom but that is slightly to me on the slightly concerning to me on the legal but harmful stuff i heard that's from the that's been dropped from the bill retain in this bill but they retain in this thing if you something thing where if you say something that serious that can cause someone serious distress you potentially can have two in so be have two years in prison. so be anything . yeah. so is anything. yeah. so the bill is still terrible. it is still terrible. understand terrible. i understand it's well—intentioned to people. we've we've we've elon we've we've we've seen with elon musk, things to musk, you can do things to protect without protect children without bringing through legislation this that risks free speech and massive you know overstep that can be abused by activist . well can be abused by activist. well they did drop the legal but harmful rubric from the from the wording of the bill but the word that phrase was still used in the descriptions of the bill by the descriptions of the bill by the politicians involved. it's clear that that is sort of the prism through which are prism through which they are seeing is because the seeing. it is because during the court for molly russell, court case for molly russell, the of health and wellbeing the head of health and wellbeing matter, i think was elizabeth again. she actually defended some of the posts that molly as using that terminology and was a
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really big and divisive point of the case essentially we cannot legislate for stuff that is legal yet still harmful . what we legal yet still harmful. what we can legislate for is things that are harmful and legal that was the sort of but nick makes the point that you know if there are things that could depress depression distress that depression or distress but that could because we all could do anything because we all have boundaries we could do anything because we all havhave boundaries we could do anything because we all havhave differentjndaries we could do anything because we all hav have different thingss we could do anything because we all hav have different things that we all have different things that set emotionally. so to set us off emotionally. so to have such nebulous legislation speech in a, in democracy is a problem that is open to exploitation. surely i mean, i would if we were talking about banning things that set us off i'd would missing burgers at 8 am. in the morning that make me hungry. yeah no that's a good point going to move on point we're going to move on that times does being that to the times and does being a a good a rock star make you a good diplomat . yeah. is back diplomat. yeah. this is back stabbing it's excel at stabbing robot it's excel at diplomacy board game so this is a game that's a bit like risk if you risk but it's like a game that's a bit like risk if yplay risk but it's like a game that's a bit like risk if yplay every risk but it's like a game that's a bit like risk if yplay every game but it's like a game that's a bit like risk if yplay every game butinsteade a game that's a bit like risk if yplay every game butinstead of i play every game but instead of being based on it's based on questions this course comes questions this of course comes from to do from meta zuckerberg to do everything sort of evil everything that sort of evil it's weird you want to think you
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mostly bills like mostly like musk two bills like counterpart a.i. is about the zuckerberg clones because these eyes basically learning be eyes are basically learning be deceitful. the problem . deceitful. that's the problem. they're playing this game diplomacy and. they have questions have questions about where they have to alliances to sort of form secret alliances like example will say, i'm looking to invade the balkans will on the will you put pressure on the ottoman levant and ottoman in the levant and they've got decide, know they've got to decide, know what's to do what's the best thing to do and work betray them work out who might betray them and essentially . and who might not essentially. we're robots to the we're teaching robots to the simplest, the most obviously dangerous you could possibly do to me about this thing, to talk to me about this thing, because why. because i don't understand why. look, article because i don't understand why. look, about article because i don't understand why. look, about how article because i don't understand why. look, about how i article because i don't understand why. look, about how i now le because i don't understand why. look, about how i now beat the talks about how i now beat the top world grandmasters at chess. that's bad enough . now they're that's bad enough. now they're learning how to lie . yes, and learning how to lie. yes, and they already hate us. yeah so, you know, what are we doing . you know, what are we doing. we're just obviously the we're just obviously sowing the seeds , our destruction. we seeds, our own destruction. we are. should be nicer. are. but you should be nicer. whatever like whatever robot that doesn't like you because it really you, you know, because it really think skynet . yeah. in terms of think skynet. yeah. in terms of chess, i mean, that's some mathematical iteration. there are x many number of potential outcomes and fine. yes. when you're talking about winning
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diplomacy . you're talking about diplomacy. you're talking about teaching robots . game theory teaching robots. game theory again, applied mathematics . so again, applied mathematics. so we're getting but there is a hypothetical. hypothetical sorry future point does it theoretical technological singularity posits that we are going reach a point in time that tech growth becomes in time that tech growth becomes in our basketball. right. and professor stephen hawking made the point that artificial or superintelligence probably will result in human extinction. look, you kind of don't know why we're talking . i know that. yes, we're talking. i know that. yes, because i've seen terminator two and i've seen how it as well as big say but but look it says the billionaire ai problem that can plan coordinate and negotiate humans language is humans in natural language is just idea. i didn't just not a good idea. i didn't even a.i. you know, even notice a.i. you know, when they computers creating art they have computers creating art , not good art, is it? because it's got no soul? it's just. it's nothing. i would go one step back. i'm such caveman that i don't even like the that. oh, those things. no they're mapping your home and that's data. that's given from trip the that's given from trip over the map stuff my toe on mania they all no supply sit i'm all get no supply to sit on. i'm not sure if you've ever no not sure if you've ever seen no
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surprise right surprise that far right andrew doyle robot rights. doyle is against robot rights. okay, that . we're okay, thanks for that. we're going move on subsidising going to move on to subsidising dependent with technology dependent now with technology blurring perception blurring the lines, perception and . who knew? who knew and reality. who knew? who knew ? deepfake yes. what's that? what does that ? so this is what does that? so this is a woman called kate isaac, who was campaigning against deepfake because she discovered some of herself, which must have been hugely traumatic . and she it was hugely traumatic. and she it was violating for victims deepfakes , which is essentially her face being put other people enacting certain acts so she's not involved in the actual act it is a computerised correct version of her. so i'm not sure if you've ever seen tom cruise's deepfake there's a man who talks and sings a lot like tom cruise and sings a lot like tom cruise and even justin bieber fell him strumming a guitar because the deepfake was so convincing compelling. so you wouldn't potentially know the difference between the person. that is right . it's hugely fun . but right. it's hugely fun. but actually that's already illegal i mean, revenge is illegal. so
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surely mocking up something that can trick into thinking that it's real would also be illegal. but the government is announcing that distributing this deepfakes will become as a move of technology and the legislation is catching up the technology as we've just discussed is moving at such a rate and the legislature is so slow that it has this sort of chasm in between go against between but to just go against i wonder how long going to be before people start using deepfakes as a defence saying ? deepfakes as a defence saying? no, no boss, that wasn't me dunngl no, no boss, that wasn't me during i said useful things to a plant pot in my office. deepfake i was very specific, suspiciously so. but nick, don't you think i mean, this is no brainer. you can't you can't make mean, is effectively make i mean, this is effectively a to defame someone, isn't it . a to defame someone, isn't it. oh yeah. pretend that they were in a yeah, yeah they weren't and it harder . launch it makes it much harder. launch a sex tape to build your career . my concern. . that's. that's my concern. we've covered exact we've covered covered this exact story kay. i'm not story before with kay. i'm not sure. come back. set sure. let's come back. she set up your get up this, not your to get non—consensual removed non—consensual content removed they in a horrible they all targeted in a horrible way and created these deepfakes
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as . so it's as yeah. as revenge. so it's horrific, . okay, horrific, unpleasant. okay, well, that's the end of this section but coming up, is it section. but coming up, is it time to our relationship time to rethink our relationship with is it wrong to a crusader at the world cup ? and have we at the world cup? and have we been getting water all wrong ? been getting water all wrong? find out why on earth that means in a.
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couple and welcome back to the final part , headliners with me, andrew part, headliners with me, andrew doyle and thea carroll and nick dixon. we're going to crack on with the times . and the french with the times. and the french have been experimenting in the world contraception. they world of contraception. they have. been busy have. so men have been busy sewing underpants with curved pieces, essentially , and they're pieces, essentially, and they're calling on piece de resistance. what does it do they have this it's they're they're turning it like a push up bra for your nether but actually it's
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nether regions but actually it's quite dangerous so it's been done as a reaction to how men have essentially maybe taken responsibility historically in france for contraceptive methods. yes. and up until i think it's maybe about 2001 napoleonic law actually forbids self—mutilation. so you were not allowed get sex mes this is taking into a very extreme and saying essentially it can render you infertile oh . yes so it you infertile oh. yes so it changes the temperature the pressure. so this is bordering on genital mutilation for the purpose. i mean , this isn't purpose. i mean, this isn't natural selection at work. i don't know what is you need underpants, nick. why not just use contraception as so many good ideas. and this is why i don't trust the french. this is what brexit was all about controlling our borders and we're not allowed to even control this mean, control our own. this is i mean, this this was invented in the 19705, this this was invented in the 1970s, apparently first tested on a herd of rams. 1970s, apparently first tested on a herd of rams . and actually, on a herd of rams. and actually, this to tudor times. this goes back to tudor times. okay. so the latest technique is as witnessed . so the codpiece
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as witnessed. so the codpiece goes back to absolutely. henry v designed make people know it wasn't it it was done to draw attention because the style sartorial sort of trends of the moment were to that their smocks would stop . and if you looked at would stop. and if you looked at henry the eight the portraiture around has codpiece he's chosen maybe slightly larger size than he had necessary to choose. so i just think it is a status thing. it was never meant to be a nether region punishment . this nether region punishment. this is a very odd idea and i think we should move on. i mean, that's telegraph now and our humans are humans using tech for the right reasons . humans are humans using tech for the right reasons. i think this is the alexa story. yeah. why our relationship with alexa is on the blink so . alexa on the blink so. alexa department as much as department has lost as much as $1,000,000,000 a month, although amazon saying the interactions have than have increased more than percent. but was it was percent. but the idea was it was meant be revolutionary meant to be this revolutionary thing. be living thing. we're going to be living the but instead the the jetsons, but instead the same are using a glorified same are using it as a glorified clock radio . to a few clock radio. i get to do a few tasks that i can't be bothered walking across the room do. walking across the room to do. but it's dangerous but yeah, i think it's dangerous and already and especially we've already established robots
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established earlier that robots and becoming deceitful to and i are becoming deceitful to be this deceitful be on this deceitful assistant in your home or potentially to see mean already see alexa. i mean already listening the time. it's listening all the time. it's just exactly what was about to just exactly what i was about to say. so they want it say. yeah. yeah. so they want it to be. well elect not to to be. well i elect not to because there's be because then there's going to be record mad right record quite how mad i am right . they claim there . well, i mean they claim there is privacy issue that is there is privacy issue that alexa doesn't listen. it just listens its own name and then it turns on it has to log to listen. so in the aether, there are transcripts of everything you've every noise you you've ever said every noise you have made. and there is a comment that scientists comment here that scientists cottoned on the scatological cottoned on to the scatological bent of the well to use basically . they're leaning it basically. they're leaning it towards voices children . towards the voices of children. they can alexa, play baby they can scream alexa, play baby shark one more and then shark one more time, and then that's creepy as well. well, selectively tune out you saying that's creepy as well. well, selalexaly tune out you saying that's creepy as well. well, selalexa intune out you saying that's creepy as well. well, selalexa in ane out you saying that's creepy as well. well, selalexa in a slightlyou saying that's creepy as well. well, selalexa in a slightly more/ing no alexa in a slightly more dulcet the computers are going to voice the robots going to tell you what they learn from that diplomacy thing gather all your all the your data then use all the information say, information against you and say, well, what you said well, what about what you said on june 16th, andrew, did you say, having this get say, we're not having this get of your that's the moral of your alexa? that's the moral of your alexa? that's the moral of story . now to of this story. so now we're to on about the queen, what
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on story about the queen, what it's god. rest it's about there. oh, god. rest us all. so this biography is shedding light on queen's stoicism in her last this biography by giles brandreth. exactly. elizabeth, an intimate and of course he's friend friends with the royal family. is he is he he a unique position as friend and royal biographer essentially in the words of then duchess of cornwall, now the queen consort . we also spoke to queen consort. we also spoke to the author . she said queen consort. we also spoke to the author. she said her mother in law was absolutely unstoppable. and i don't if unstoppable. and i don't know if any you mother, but they any of you have mother, but they usually . but to give the usually are. but to give the royal highness , royal highness, royal highness, royal highness, obviously juice she obviously her juice she absolutely carried on like a stalwart of i was just a bastion of strength. i mean she didn't stop she was the longest, second longest reigning monarch in history. i think only surpassed by type a monarch she ran for by a type a monarch she ran for 70 years and 214 days or something. and she was told to stop, to slow down, and she carried pushing and pushing carried on pushing and pushing through. what through. and that's what this biographies sort biographies revealing those sort of exactly. the of of details. exactly. the of archetypal stoicism she archetypal british stoicism she surpassed. okay. i'm going to
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move quickly to the now. who move on quickly to the now. who would thought dressing would have thought that dressing up go up as crusaders might not go down east? yeah. down in the middle east? yeah. england fans dressed as st george searched by police george strip searched by police world outrageous they world cup this outrageous they said they just wanted to humiliate others they are humiliate others they said are you muslim and they you here to kill muslim and they said we're just here have said no we're just here to have fun football. they fun and watch football. they look yeah was st look like an army. yeah was st george, they had the sort of crosses sword. have crosses the sword. they have toy swords, they had the whole, the chain whole shebang. chain mail, the whole shebang. andrew there was andrew and then there was horribly humiliated. they got into late . were into the ground late. they were strip what needs to strip search. and what needs to wake up to is football , because wake up to is football, because that's is. it's the that's what this is. it's the americans the tonight. americans the game tonight. there americans , you know, there were americans, you know, and their to sort like and their their to sort of like where america. we love soccer and like planes and our teams are like planes going buildings at 911 and say we're going to stuff yanks and the need to get with it the qataris need to get with it that's of football that's part of our football culture it's culture is dressing up like it's the going over a the crusades and going over a british football coach . well, british football coach. well, it's by monty python . it's inspired by monty python. and really looking and what i was really looking forward was , if that the forward to was, if that was the inspiration , that part of inspiration from, that part of monty wanted monty python. i wanted to see the outfits came of the outfits that came out of monty said
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monty python song said and i goodness me we're going to have to move on this is the final story of the night this is story of the night and this is a about water what's going on with water drinking water nick well drinking a glasses of water a day is too much. always this. much. and we always have this. we trans we have we have like trans we have cholesterol. are bad. then cholesterol. eggs are bad. then they're was like 2.8 they're so it was like 2.8 litres of are day. turns out you only need 1.5 to 1.8. and it's just classic thing. they just this classic thing. they always change it, but anyway. i'm i think i'm like, and i only think sparkling water because was sparkling water because tap was for both goodness me , this for both boys. goodness me, this thing about water, i mean , it thing about water, i mean, it does get a bit annoying when scientists. you drink as scientists. no, you can drink as much want. no, you much water as you want. no, you shouldn't oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan't oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan eat oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan eat as oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan eat as much oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan eat as much as oh, much water as you want. no, you shorcan eat as much as much you can eat as much of as much as like. actually capital as you like. actually capital kill they don't know as you like. actually capital kill they're they don't know as you like. actually capital kill they're talkingyn't know as you like. actually capital kill they're talking aboutow as you like. actually capital kill they're talking about today as you like. actually capital kill reallye talking about today as you like. actually capital kill really difficulti about today as you like. actually capital kill really difficult becauseyday . it's really difficult because actually taking actually we're taking a sensationalised headlines from usually not necessarily controlled or insured, random controlled or insured, random controlled . and they are very controlled. and they are very they are not necessarily founded science. and so when you get nutritional headlines, i could go on about this for as well, i'm afraid, but i'm happy. go on about this for as well, i'm afraid, but i'm happy . we've i'm afraid, but i'm happy. we've got time for a thank you to my
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