iphone gb news tv on radio tonight , the programme plenty of tonight, the programme plenty of people had to change their weekend plan because of train strikes. today and more disruption is planned over christmas . we'll be talking christmas. we'll be talking about the problems these strikes can cause . if you've been to the can cause. if you've been to the supermarket this weekend, you may noticed a severe shortage of eggs. may noticed a severe shortage of eggs . we'll be asking why some eggs. we'll be asking why some shops are rush such a staple of our . a hit tv shops are rush such a staple of our. a hit tv show called ancient has been branded the dangerous show on netflix . we'll dangerous show on netflix. we'll be asking later that's really the case . here to help me answer the case. here to help me answer that and other questions of the day, panellists ingrid tuttle , day, panellists ingrid tuttle, emma webb, perfect friends , the emma webb, perfect friends, the show and the family content introduction. but first, an update on. the latest news from an arms strong . thank you very

an arms strong. thank you very much, neil it is a minute past six, i'm afraid i'm showing gb newsroom, the head of the fire bngade newsroom, the head of the fire brigade says fire fighters face being sacked if they're found to have bullied or been racist. misogyny stick or homophobic . misogyny stick or homophobic. andy rowe has promised a zero tolerance approach after an independent review into the culture within the service . the culture within the service. the report revealed accounts a black firefighter who had a noose placed by his locker women being groped and people having their helmets with urine. the review , helmets with urine. the review, commissioned after a trainee firefighter , took his own life firefighter, took his own life in 2020. we are going to conduct a five year case review , so we a five year case review, so we look back across all those cases, those terrible behaviours as examples of bullying and harassment which had been considered before afb and put them through that externally accredited process. not to expect some people to be dismissed as a result, we will become the first service in the country to wear body worn video

cameras to ensure both the safety of our own staff and to reassure the public. so these are examples of what we're doing immediately . a woman's died and immediately. a woman's died and around ten people are missing after heavy rainfall triggered landslides on southern italian island of this morning. the muddy path cut through a poor town , collapsing buildings and town, collapsing buildings and sweeping cars into the sea. dozens of people are reportedly stranded inside homes and hotels as continue to search for victims . meanwhile, yellow victims. meanwhile, yellow weather warnings are in place for large of the uk. a warning by the met for rain and strong winds affecting southern england, wales and scotland. the warnings in wales and england will remain in place until 3 am. ukraine's president a.m. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy has hosted a food security summit with the prime ministers of belgium and lithuania and the president of hungary . zelenskyy says hungary. zelenskyy says 6 million people are without electricity in ukraine. following a series of russian

attacks on the country's infrastructure this week. the mayor of ukraine, vitali klitschko, in fact the mayor of kyiv vitali klitschko claims around 70% of households in the capital still have no power. it comes , as the united nations comes, as the united nations calls for humanitarian aid for people in who have been left without power following russian missile attacks . meanwhile, missile attacks. meanwhile, british military intelligence says russia is removing nuclear warheads from old cruise missiles before using on attacks in ukraine. the mod says the move highlights moscow's low stock of long—range missiles . stock of long—range missiles. being a manager , gareth being a manager, gareth southgate has played down boos from disappointed fans following draw with the united states in the world cup last night. it means england missed out on the chance to guarantee their place in the 16. a supporters at a fanzone in south london appeared little unhappy at the results and cups and drinks flying around the place. england will face wales next wales , need

face wales next wales, need a win to keep up their chances , win to keep up their chances, making the knockout stages. the former england manager, sam allardyce, though says he's still hopeful england can the tournament. there's enough experience in the backroom staff, the manager. there's enough experience in the squad. now, having gone through tournaments that they've got the tools to win this competition . tools to win this competition. but gareth needs to use the squad to his full potential and that means for me quite a few changes for the next game . the changes for the next game. the former scotland rugby union international and british and irish lions doddie weir has died at the of 52 where it was diagnosed with motor neurone disease in december 2016. he won 61 caps for his country was selected for the successful hons selected for the successful lions tour to south africa in 1997. are used his profile to raise of the condition and to generate funds through his charity foundation . tv online charity foundation. tv online and dab radio. this is gb news

and dab radio. this is gb news and now it's back to neil oliver live live . live live. people write to me every day to tell me they feel the future. people all over the world, all ages , walks of life. i see this ages, walks of life. i see this we should not be afraid . if we should not be afraid. if anyone should be afraid , it's anyone should be afraid, it's our government. the whole of parliament, state and the establish . they should be afraid establish. they should be afraid . they are in the wrong doing things and behaving unforgivably . you can tell they are afraid the way they keep doing more and more fast and faster to make the people to cold and hungry , also people to cold and hungry, also demoralised, anxious and, fearful about the present. never mind the future. the fear felt by people around the world is . by people around the world is. the deliberate consequence of the actions of so—called leaders all across west and beyond. i see. again, we should not be

afraid those plotting and working against us, against our interests both as individuals and as sovereign states, have no power and no money. other that which we the people grant, power and no money. other that which we the people grant , them. which we the people grant, them. they are supposed to use that power and money to protect us to keep us free and to provide opportunities for those hard working free people to make and successful lives for themselves . instead of working night and day , have as welcome a state of day, have as welcome a state of being that is nothing less than digital enslavement . many of the digital enslavement. many of the people who me ask what should we.7 how people who me ask what should we? how can we fight ? i think we? how can we fight? i think about the answers to those questions all the time right now. i wonder what would happen if those who are called the horns, millions of people just turned on the heating and turned off the direct debits and standing orders. off the direct debits and standing orders . what would standing orders. what would happenif standing orders. what would happen if when bills came, we all just to toss them on the fire . all of us together . what fire. all of us together. what would happen if millions of us

peacefully acting as one just stood together in quiet defiance? i could be wrong, but i don't think there's enough cells, the prisons, enough judges to hear the cases. the system wasn't already broken by such actions would break it . such actions would break it. what would happen if we withdrew our money from the on the same day? what would happen if we all asked ? we are entitled to for asked? we are entitled to for the cash . the banks don't have the cash. the banks don't have the cash. the banks don't have the money . meet all those the money. meet all those demands. and so presumably they would close the doors . then what would close the doors. then what would close the doors. then what would inability to pay out all that cash evidence of the fraud that cash evidence of the fraud thatis that cash evidence of the fraud that is fiat money. i wonder more and more strikes are happening. real workers and university lecturers . nurses university lecturers. nurses next. what about the self—employed? who are abandoned for the last two years? they can't strike. what would happen if they withheld the taxes all at the same time? i i don't have the to all of the questions, but know this much. even just asking

them. airing the thoughts . she'd them. airing the thoughts. she'd make the government. the state , make the government. the state, the establishment. sit up and pay the establishment. sit up and pay attention. i've said it before and i'll say it again. the social contract that by which we surrender power up the state in return for services and safety is beyond broken . they safety is beyond broken. they broke it, not us. successive governments . just the present governments. just the present bunch of cardboard cut—outs have over a decade knowingly and deliberately betrayed aspect of that contract. it is null and void and we blameless party of no longer by its conditions. we people, the sovereign people of this country, don't just hold the power. we are the power . we the power. we are the power. we loan some of it a short term loan some of it a short term loan to governments . and those loan to governments. and those governments are supposed serve us, do our never the other way round. we tell them to do. hundreds of years worth of governments of , quietly and governments of, quietly and secretively presided over a financial system that is no more than state sanctioned fraud .

than state sanctioned fraud. power to create money out of thin air was put in the hands of an entirely private unelected , an entirely private unelected, unaccountable business and. this power has been abused to make a group unimaginably rich by enslaving all of us debt. that system now in the point of collapse. the west is bankrupt and governments and bankers are scrambling to solve a problem. how to? subtract every last shekel from the people while still having a of wealthy bankers under enablers left over . britain has no functioning borders against the rest of the world. hundreds are arriving in this country every day and night. many ferry across the channel by agencies paid for by british taxpayers . british british taxpayers. british people have to wait longer for health and social care and accommodation to make way for economic migrants with their eyes on a soft touch who have paid illegal gangs thousands of pounds a head . get here. they pounds a head. get here. they send their luggage on a head and collect it at the hotels . we are collect it at the hotels. we are at the back of the queue while.

anyone else from anywhere else is looked after hand and foot and always the loudest calls . and always the loudest calls. not for stopping it, but for more money and faster processing . i wonder if the illegal isn't just convenient for the state softening up the for a supposed solution like digital id? perhaps and then borders open once and for all. i the british people are no longer kept safe by the police force to pay for of properties and assaults the past and are barely investigated while officers prioritise crimes on social media. uncounted thousands little girls that are abandoned to organised of rapists up and down the country because the state turned a blind to the relentless raping of children . rather than ruffle children. rather than ruffle community feathers . a 10th of community feathers. a 10th of the populace is on the waiting list for treatment by the nhs . list for treatment by the nhs. the national health service is not keeping the nation healthy . not keeping the nation healthy. all this about free at the point the delivery is about as much used as a magic spell. you can

call a lunch, a free lunch , but call a lunch, a free lunch, but you'll still be left hungry if you'll still be left hungry if you get into the restaurant. so called free speech won't fill you up if you have to wait so long in the queue, you starve to death. meantime, free death. in the meantime, free becomes word for something you've had about but can't have. see again though, we have nothing to fear. not if we decide to be unafraid. in many ways, the worst has already happened. ways, the worst has already happened . we've been shown where happened. we've been shown where we stand the eyes of the state, which is beneath contempt. but history tells us we should never underestimate the power of the many. just over 100 years ago, dunng many. just over 100 years ago, during war one thousands of workers pooled into the city of glasgow to work in the munitions factories . at that time there factories. at that time there wasn't a single council house or flat in the whole of . privately flat in the whole of. privately poundland owned 100% of homes for rent. they could and did raise rents as often as they wanted. tenants either paid up or were evicted. in february 1915, landlords across the city

told tenants that rents were going up by as much as 25. this against the backdrop of the steeply rising cost of living generally . food scarcity and the generally. food scarcity and the rest . there was a war to generally. food scarcity and the rest. there was a war to end. remember and sacrifices were expected from the people. if the enemy was to defeated in the case of many homes, the man of the house was fighting in the war, leaving women and children into this crisis for people stepped maybe barber , an stepped maybe barber, an ordinary glasgow woman, was two children. she and others realised their only hope lay in sticking together a mass non—payment campaign got under way. arrears built up and soon sharrouf's officers were turning up to demand back rent or to evict known peers . but whenever evict known peers. but whenever anyone got of an eviction, hundreds of women would descend on the address and block the entrance to the home. a glasgow mp, willie reid described a typical incident could a soldier's wife in parkhead had an eviction notice , served on an eviction notice, served on her with a warning that she

failed . vacate her house by 12 failed. vacate her house by 12 noon.the failed. vacate her house by 12 noon. the sheriff's officer would call to enforce it. the strike committee busy. they instructed every mother in the district with a young child to be for 11 am. on dee dee complete with prams long before noon.the complete with prams long before noon. the clothes and street were packed with prams, and every pram had at least youngster in it. no raiding party could have got near the house. party could have got near the house . moreover, the man of house. moreover, the man of parkhead, forge and other works in the district decided to tools at 11:30 am. and lend a hand if necessary. people began to talk about mary barbour's army on the 17th of november, 18, tenants appeared in court for eviction . appeared in court for eviction. tens of thousands of glasgow people lined the streets . in the people lined the streets. in the end , on the 25th of november, end, on the 25th of november, 1915, rents were frozen at pre—war levels. the increase of rent and mortgage interest act 1915 was passed and some elements of it remained in force as late as 1989. i wonder what

would happen if all us opposed to what is going on now came together like ? those glasgow together like? those glasgow women of 1950 and just said no . women of 1950 and just said no. i wonder when thinking about that time . i'm reminded of the that time. i'm reminded of the leaders . i've been talking again leaders. i've been talking again this week about, ernest shackleton, who when all seemed lost, his ship sunk beneath the antarctic ice and with nothing but flimsy tents . three little but flimsy tents. three little boats and 28 men trapped on the packice boats and 28 men trapped on the pack ice and dependent on him for life . he said, well now for life. he said, well now we'll go home. our so—called leaders tell our lives must be filled with hardship while they warm themselves in central, heated homes paid for with our taxes and look forward to christmas parties , food and christmas parties, food and dnnk christmas parties, food and drink and decorations paid for by all of us. that's leadership. that's an abuse relationship. shackled and put himself through every hardship he expected his men to endure . he did it first men to endure. he did it first and for the longest. what? he asked of them? he did too. he

they should leave behind on ice. anything that would not help keep them alive . so seeing he keep them alive. so seeing he walked a hole in that ice and dropped in his gold watch and cigarette case to the bottom of the ocean he led from the front every step of the way and over nearly a thousand miles of the cruellest sea on earth. and in the end every man whom they him, the end every man whom they him, the boss, he cared, not a giant for the comforts of home, but whom once more he wrote. we had pierced the veneer of outside things . we had suffered starved things. we had suffered starved and, triumphed grovelled down and, triumphed grovelled down and grasped that glory growing bigger . and and grasped that glory growing bigger. and the bigness of the whole . it was a leader who saw whole. it was a leader who saw that it was shared endeavour and shared that made all else possible . our leaders , our possible. our leaders, our leaders would pick our pockets . leaders would pick our pockets. any gold watches and valuables before claiming aboard a private and flying home, leaving us behind on the melting ice . i behind on the melting ice. i see. we owe them nothing . not see. we owe them nothing. not our loyalty and not our obedience . if we continue to

obedience. if we continue to comply, we build our own around ourselves for their benefit. they've promised the erstwhile stealing it from us , raping and stealing it from us, raping and pillaging its resources for their own enrichment. i again, there's nothing to fear. if we have each other. he is the thing. if we set a course ourselves and back each other step of the way, we will cross this ocean of darkness together , all the way to where we want to be . all of that's my opinion to be. all of that's my opinion . course. you're free to disagree . keep your tweets and disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming. all through the show. you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk . and you can gbviews@gbnews.uk. and you can tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll get to your comments later in the show for time. joining me throughout the show this evening, i am delighted to welcome commentator and broadcaster emma webb and tv and commentator ingrid tarrant. good

to. see you both. good to be here. all that monologue was brilliant and powerful. that's talk.i brilliant and powerful. that's talk. i want you to lead the crusade, and i'm right behind you. you are so right with this. so bang on. is the social contract broken , though, contract broken, though, completely . yeah. we don't have completely. yeah. we don't have leaders. this is what you said. that cardboard cut—out. they're doing nothing . there's no common doing nothing. there's no common sense anymore. it's not. it's an unusual thing . have common unusual thing. have common sense. that being ? i don't know sense. that being? i don't know what they are. they they are listening to us. but whoever shouts loudest, they listen to the next one. so they keep flip flopping, different opinions. because i don't a really opinion of them they're not leaders , not of them they're not leaders, not like chaka khan. come on off we go. we're going to sort this out. it's we in a sinking ship. you've got to lead us out of this . well, good grief. i know this. well, good grief. i know prejudice and they are not holding up their end of the

social contract. contract? should we? well you know, i think the way that you phrased it when you said that we're in an abusive relationship with government and i think we saw that over covid more than any other time . what it seems to me, other time. what it seems to me, is that it's in relational terms . it's possessive. they they they feel that they own us . and they feel that they own us. and under that circumstance, i think the way that we push back because obviously we're talking about a social contract is very specific understanding of how the individual to the state. i think that actually the contract is the and one between the unborn the living, the dead. i think we need to return back to that model and we need to that, as you emphasise perfectly, we free people and power actually belongs to us and, not to them. and so i think , we need to and so i think, we need to assert ourselves quite clearly against , this possessive against, this possessive relationship, this possessive attitude that the government has developed towards us where they

seem to think that they own us, they own our bodies, they own our money the way that the current fiscal statement i mean, aside from it being confronted mentally on conservative, this affects from the very top to the very bottom. they are taking people's hard earned money at a time when need it most. and so i think so many ways you summed it up perfectly , the situation, the up perfectly, the situation, the contract has been completely broken . i don't know the best broken. i don't know the best way out of the situation. no way . money in those parts of non—compliance . what about non—compliance. what about passive resistance ? well, but passive resistance? well, but just. no, not paying to the energy. the thing is. no we are saying no in many. energy. the thing is. no we are saying no in many . are we not saying no in many. are we not saying no in many. are we not saying no in many. are we not saying no ? and have we not been saying no? and have we not been saying no? and have we not been saying a very, very time to funding the illegal immigrants? you know, at a time when we need to help and support our own country, charity begins at home. they're not doing it. they're bringing in diseases and let's just get this perspective. it

costs on average just get this perspective. it costs on averag e £5,000 per costs on average £5,000 per illegal immigrant to pay all the people in process of coming here. where they get the money from. it's from drugs . it's from from. it's from drugs. it's from trafficking . maybe theft. trafficking. maybe theft. i can't say . but it's know for can't say. but it's know for these people that are supposed to be very very poor and they're coming in with their new trainers their fancy phones trainers and their fancy phones and and blah, and watches and blah blah, having this amount of having already this amount of money. so we've been saying this, we've been shouting about this, we've been shouting about this for a very long time. nothing's happening. so what does take? i mean, what does it take? i mean, what you're saying is let's just down to effects. burn bills let's to effects. burn the bills let's not pay our taxes then that really is fighting . we're really is fighting. we're fighting with not sort of like, you know, sort of like our mouths and whatever. i think can't be passive. i think we've got to completely aggressive on this. well, you said yourself that the government will listen to the last person that spoke the loudest. and so i think one one thing that people should do , obviously, as we've seen, is

disruptive to everybody's lives and hurts the economy. so it huns and hurts the economy. so it hurts all of us. but what if everybody were to go out into the streets and peacefully? i think they would think that they would actually listen real protest making listen. a real protest making everyone else in europe and what not seeing on the the not seeing on the text of the news. and think i that this news. and i think i that this you know you you touched on this as this is not just about as well this is not just about our politics. just our politics. it's not just about government also about our government it's also about our government it's also about the about our institutions. the police policing all of police are not policing all of the . society seem the institutions. society seem to forgotten they're to have forgotten what they're there do. i won't say who who there to do. i won't say who who this is in to, but i know if somebody who had a crime committed against them over the last couple of days and within 24 hours, the police said that they the case. so we have they closed the case. so we have a situation now . all of the a situation now. all of the councils taking all of this money, but they're full of deadwood, paying themselves enormous you just have enormous salaries. you just have to at the taxpayers to look at the taxpayers alliance and rich list to alliance and your rich list to see that is the case. and as you say, we've been shouting enough for long enough and nobody's listening to us. but i think we do need be careful in the

do need be careful that in the situation that is clearly becoming more and more desperate and the system being broken in the way it is, that the any action that is taken is responsible, sensible action and not crazy, you toppy in revolutionary activity , but in a revolutionary activity, but in a civilised yeah. in a civilised way that people would understand if to get a break after which more trouble disruption today for train passengers and further strikes planned for december are we facing a winter of discontent i'll be discussing that prospect in couple of minutes .

welcome back to neil oliver live a wave of strikes by workers in seven different industries promises a winter discontent for british people rail workers and bus drivers and nurses. the royal mail delivery drivers, teachers and university lecturers, civil servants and brewers are all taking or

promising industrial action. joining now to discuss the impact of all of this on the wider population in the run up to christmas and beyond. is boots head of the maidstone east, west and snodland commuters group. good evening to you.thank commuters group. good evening to you. thank you forjoining us . you. thank you for joining us. good evening there. tell me hard, for example are commuters being hit in area ? very hard to being hit in area? very hard to be. we don't have a very good rail company as it's always cancelling trains for various reasons and the train strikes are coming at a where our local train company putting on new services to london that week . services to london that week. none of us will be able to get into london. the train strikes . into london. the train strikes. what is the impact on other businesses in the run up to christmas . hospitality. businesses in the run up to christmas. hospitality. retail. entertainment so on. what are you hearing? what are you seeing? oh well, you hearing? what are you seeing? oh well , that week with seeing? oh well, that week with the week of the train strike when both my company christmas

being held on the 16th. none of this would probably be able to go because we weren't going to get home. so all these venues have been needing the money lockdown as well . companies may lockdown as well. companies may have to cancel all the businesses in the city. i work in the city of london the businesses around there just about getting back on their feet after lockdown would be severely penalised this this strike because commuters won't be there to buy coffee. the wine and the bars, the beer, etc. is there a sense i do wonder if all those industries that are striking or proposing to strike if of the workers actually want to strike or if they're just being you know driven into this situation , do you know , do you get , do you know, do you get a sense from others around you that they appreciate the that people are having, that those workers having but striking in

the up to christmas, you know, especially you know sacred cows like , doctors and nurses, like, doctors and nurses, teachers is it perhaps something very painful to inflict on people in this particular time of crisis ? i mean my daughter , a of crisis? i mean my daughter, a nurse and she works in central london and she feels pressure to go on strike because she couldn't vote for strike action . but she's feeling the pressure to go out and strike. and again , know it's terrible when nurses, insurance and children's wards and upset she probably won't be able work on strike days because of that reason and at the moment the other situation is the train strike it affecting her getting to work she had to drive to in central london yesterday evening , pay london yesterday evening, pay the congestion charges. the car charges, and then work a 13 hour shift and then come back and drive that way. back to maidstone, kent, about 30 miles

again . the nhs have offered them again. the nhs have offered them accommodation in the centre of london, but she doesn't feel safe to stay there with other issues, including know the amount of potential immigrants is staying in these hotels that she doesn't want stay in them . she doesn't want stay in them. emma, what are you making of know this time after the two years that we've been through, you know now this has has entered the equation as well. i think it's deeply inconsiderate . i think that what they're doing is , they're hurting the doing is, they're hurting the pubuc doing is, they're hurting the public and holding the public runs them in order to get the companies to meet demands that i think the circumstances and i know is going to be very unpopular to say i think under the circum stances they're actually quite greedy because what doing is their what they're doing is their fundamental harming fundamental re harming the economy . as as your guest economy. as as your guest mentioned that you know there are loads of companies that are not be able to, you not going to be able to, you know, customers those know, have customers on those days, that struggling , days, pubs that are struggling, the of the year, the busiest time of the year, people to able

people aren't going to be able to to see loved ones, to get home to see loved ones, all sorts of chaos. they're they're creating and they are just holding to ransom. just holding public to ransom. and , again, was just and i think, again, as was just mentioned , that there will be mentioned, that there will be people don't want to go on strike. they want to work. but these unions, as per the normal behaviour of unions , behaving behaviour of unions, behaving like bully boys basically people into striking and actually ultimately it hurts all of us because it also hurts the ability of those companies and the ability of the government, the ability of the government, the taxpayer to pay those people that we're all struggling right now and we're constantly being told as you said in your monologue, neal, we're constantly that constantly being told that we have have to have to suffer more. we have to suffer for the good, but suffer more for the good, but they they are they suffering on us at a time everybody is really having to pull their belts. in england, it is a it's just more uncertainty . it. you know, if uncertainty. it. you know, if you're if you're planning a journey to see family or if you travel every day on the trains to get to work or to get to school and more elements seem to

be conspiring to just create this constant uncertainty about everything. yes such that the only thing we're certain, the days they're going to strike for the rest of his absolute chaos , the rest of his absolute chaos, it throws everything into complete chaos . what so complete chaos. what is so completely shortsighted . well, completely shortsighted. well, it i agree with you , it is great. i agree with you, because the minimum wage is about 40,000 , then 8200 20,000 a about 40,000, then 8200 20,000 a yearis about 40,000, then 8200 20,000 a year is kind of fairly standard poverty. somebody may say that i'm completely wrong, but that's what i've read . but it's this what i've read. but it's this eight day strike is going to cost . eight day strike is going to cost . £670 million. and eight day strike is going to cost. £670 million. and are going to lose in that to the country. and they're going to lose in lost revenue like 350 million, which is ordinary, actually completely counterproductive . so it is counterproductive. so it is completely they are their own industry by doing this also, they don't get paid for. industry by doing this also, they don't get paid for . they're they don't get paid for. they're on strike apart from if they weren't working that day anyway

. and you think, well, weren't working that day anyway . and you think, well , hello, . and you think, well, hello, wake up, be sensible because you're going to kill the job that provides overheads your money your lifestyle by this and i think this boy touches is absolutely right because i remember back in the day you know with all the strikes the unions i mean might is a very very good speaker he comes across very well he's sort of like sure he makes a lot of sense to the aslef you know and all that sort of thing but they have to be a little bit they've got to wake up and what is one out for themselves. and i hope that they've got bloody tough lives say, lives sitting at home to say, you get to work and let's you get out to work and let's put perspective, because put this perspective, because that's what a pound of potatoes called, because are like called, because women are like that, thought that that, aren't they thought that one of the main mary barber, you know that you were talking about earlier really pop up 88. did you think the do think all these in industries all these are losing the people's sympathy and is it just causing a greater

degree of us fighting amongst ourselves , i suppose ? yes, ourselves, i suppose? yes, absolutely . i ourselves, i suppose? yes, absolutely. i mean, ourselves, i suppose? yes, absolutely . i mean, when ourselves, i suppose? yes, absolutely. i mean, when i'm on the train of , absolutely. i mean, when i'm on the train of, summer commutes, when i'm on the train , there are when i'm on the train, there are people you know, it's all very well, me saying, oh, i can't beat christmas. there beat my christmas. but there are people struggling to get up. that's the hospital appointments, nhs appointments, you know that one station that my train at a lot of . the blind my train at a lot of. the blind people get on with guide dogs going to the hospital appointments moorfield and can't get there and just it's just not it's unacceptable you know i just cannot we cannot have people not able to hospital because they can't get on the train. people may say well drive up there but you can't get the congestion the car parking . and, congestion the car parking. and, you know, my daughter's pretty much, you know, just a newly qualified nurse , she's on about qualified nurse, she's on about 30,000 a year, i guess . but the 30,000 a year, i guess. but the train drivers and trains often

far more than that . she's the far more than that. she's the one who's having to pay out car parking congestion charges and just to get to work and do 13 hour shifts in the course of six children, particularly cruel tend to do as well in the run up to christmas you know when i when a lot of these businesses like hospitality entertainment are trying to recover some ground from exactly two years of incessant disruption and the rest that to find the business is compromised yet again when you when you around the city of london it's not how it used to be lots of places shuts pubs restaurants have been shut and they just about getting back on their feet again and actually you know my company it's very flexible they allow us to work from home but we get in this situation now we're we're quite enjoying seeing each other again and connecting with each other and connecting with each other and now we're back where we and now we're back to where we were lockdown. were were in lockdown. we were working to where working from again till to where we were. katie boots, head of the east, west and snodland commuters. you for your

commuters. thank you for your contribution. this evening. i have get to another break and have to get to another break and then we'll be finding why some supermarkets have had to rationing eggs as the uk faces a shortage of one of our food staples. see you shortly .

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customers in the face of claims a nationwide shortage and the impact bird flu but egg blame the supermarkets for paying them so little for the product that many producers have purchased or quit the industry altogether . quit the industry altogether. farmers say they're rising the price of feed and young chickens, coupled with skyrocketing energy costs, are not being reflected in. the pnces not being reflected in. the prices offered by the supermarket and industry see eggs , so to speak, are the tip eggs, so to speak, are the tip of the iceberg that other food shortages lie ahead for some of the seem . i'm joined now by the the seem. i'm joined now by the farmer and former conservative mp new parish . hello, neil how mp new parish. hello, neil how are you ? i thank you. nice to. are you? i thank you. nice to. to see you. now, my wife and i very much enjoy your your or your history on the vikings and taking us around scotland so . taking us around scotland so. nice to see you. oh, a blast from the past. lovely. thank you. now to the matter in hand, though. who's to blame for all of this. neil yes. you seen it.

the supermarkets and retailers trying to blame bird flu. now bird flu has claimed a few of the poultry, but most of the reduction of that from 43000009 to 38 million is all to do with the fact the farmers can't afford to keep them. and, you know, we've the problem the russians invading ukraine. price of wheat has rocketed so the feed price has gone up by nearly a half and of course they reckon that they've producing it's costing $0.05 a dozen more to produce the eggs and retailers have offered them $0.09 so basically farmers are just reducing the number of hens they're keeping and we've got less eggs and of course we have we produce 75% of our eggs now and more are free range in this country very high quality good eggs. and of course, sue , the eggs. and of course, sue, the markets are now doing some of them , sainsbury's are getting them, sainsbury's are getting them, sainsbury's are getting them from italy and of course them from italy and of course the quality is not so good, nor is the animal is good. so you

know, i think retailers really must recognise the costs is of production otherwise know there isn't a shortage of eggs. production otherwise know there isn't a shortage of eggs . they isn't a shortage of eggs. they wouldn't be if they paid the right price. what can can no one can you support to mitigate a situation like this ? so you mean situation like this? so you mean supermarkets optimistic hoping to come to an agreement because there you know but a lot of them are locked contracts and you know and fair enough contracts go know and fair enough contracts 9° up know and fair enough contracts go up down. but of course what you can't do is keeping locking farmers a contract, which is below the cost of production because . in the end, the farmers because. in the end, the farmers can't produce them and so they won't the hens. so it's a real where i think you know, and few poultry board are all working hard to try and get price up. but i think consumer is can actually help by saying you know by listening you'd like sit here tonight to gb news and also when they're going into the to actually say to those retailers

you know i believe if you paid enough for those eggs we'd have plenty of good quality eggs that we can produce in this country. and i think that's the issue now to make sure and i think retailer is will start to listen i would of course say they waited too long really before taking the industry and starting up the price because the price is going in the shops but it's not going up a great deal to the producer and so they've got a lot more to do . tesco's is now lot more to do. tesco's is now said they will, you know, have eggs only from the uk well they will need to pay more for them at the same when the other retailers your absolute is this is this a new problem or is this we're talking about eggs specifically at the moment but is this the product of something deepen is this the product of something deeper, deeper and longer running in terms an almost what it sounds like exploitative relationship between the supermarkets and the farmers and other producers . yes you again,

other producers. yes you again, neal other producers. yes you again, neal. exactly right. because what happened when i was sort of in parliament had a lot to do with the pig and i was famously, you know, who turned up in pig world because i actually been championing the cause for the pig championing the cause for the pig producer because they were the supermarkets were keeping the supermarkets were keeping the prices down. the processors weren't helping either. and the pig weren't helping either. and the pig farmer was having to pay. probably it was costing him about £40. a pig more to produce the bacon and what they were getting for it. and that is again, it's feed costs, energy cost little bit very similar in a way to the poultry industry because you see a pig and a hen and poultry eat cereals and basically everything farmers say comes out of a bag you can't really put them out to graze. i mean the chickens out to free range they get a little of nutrient from the from the grass and others. but most of it comes through grain. and so therefore that's going to be produced with high feed. then the do have to

pay high feed. then the do have to pay the price for it and you know mean consumers quite rightly demand very high animal welfare standards that cost money as well and so energy again like i said really high so it's been and we've got to really watch this they might they might try to do the same with the dairy on milk price with the dairy on the milk price and i think we've got because we've got a very efficient good farming industry in this country . and i know farmers will always moan . they they never get paid moan. they they never get paid enough, but on this occasion, you know, they're getting you know, they're not getting paid. is cost of production paid. is the cost of production . and that's got to be wrong ingrid. it seems to me that this is part of a longer much more painful story about, is part of a longer much more painful story about , the way in painful story about, the way in which the farmers the farming industry is being overlooked , industry is being overlooked, neglected, mistreated when what? after all, it's the stuff of life . and we see it in the in life. and we see it in the in the netherlands. we see in other european countries there's this pincer movement that seems to be moving around the farming industry, destroying the farmland to one win another by

by a thousand cuts. yeah, the industry bleat yeah you because it is it's kind of it's almost insidious the way that it's actually coming because going back to as you were saying , actually coming because going back to as you were saying, you know, with the pig farms going by age stage. kerry actually, i've kind of forgot that. but you know, the other thing i find , you know, and if you take back and maybe i'm not being a little bit of a conspiracy theorist, but when you about the mad cow disease and then it was all the culling them. now we've got culling of them. now we've got this the flu thing, this right, the bird flu thing, because partly into because that comes partly into this whole crisis with the eggs . and also you can't call them free range . they have to be free range. they have to be outside for a certain length of time and now they have to be kept inside for fear of it spreading. and then, of course, then got the overheads as then you've got the overheads as well the heating of well because it's the heating of the it's not the chicken houses. but it's not fatal. i've i've looked into this quite lot and it's not really to human beings. and if you think all the farmers have , you think all the farmers have, these thousands of chickens,

they are rearing for the eggs and for the actual meat . you and for the actual meat. you don't hear about them dying and they're in close proximity to them. i mean , i just think that them. i mean, i just think that this so many little strands almost to destroy the farmer by actually terrifying us that that all the things all, the meat and all the things all, the meat and all the things all, the meat and all the poultry and cattle is contaminating, all the poultry and cattle is contaminating , those are bad for contaminating, those are bad for the plant. yes yeah. and you think, you know, should should we as as consumers suck then the supermarkets, you what should we be trying to get closer in every conceivable way to . our food, conceivable way to. our food, the people who produce it and when it comes from go around the back and just go straight to the farm. absolutely and actually, part of story is that some farmers have decided that they want to sell the produce locally instead. and that's a way of them actually getting the money, them actually getting the money, the sort of the correct value , the sort of the correct value, the sort of the correct value, the product, because it does to me, from what i can see, it

seems as if the supermarkets are essentially ripping the farmers off they're as we've just off that they're as we've just heard, not even making heard, they're not even making ends meet. and so that's obviously something that is on because farmers will simply fall out of the business and then will end up with shortages. that seems to me be the fault of the supermarkets . we need something supermarkets. we need something like trade that we have with other countries , the world to other countries, the world to somehow were saying, somehow as were saying, negotiate this . but ultimately negotiate this. but ultimately i think that the solution long term is for us to try as locally as possible and there are ways for people to farm shops in their local areas . you know, not their local areas. you know, not everybody lives in central and to try and find ways for farmers to try and find ways for farmers to maybe sell their produce directly maybe an organisation needs to be created to step in to try and do that new policy. so neil parish, are you with us there? is that a solution. i mean, is there is there a is the foundation that of a movement of

we the people know to, you know, get hand in hand with the farmers more directly and not go straight to the supermarket and add on their costs. straight to the supermarket and add on their costs . yeah, i add on their costs. yeah, i think there we sell more directly to the public and some farmers have done that very successfully . but you will successfully. but you will always probably 85 to 90% of food actually in the large retailers . so i food actually in the large retailers. so i think food actually in the large retailers . so i think where we retailers. so i think where we have missed trick in this country i think is we we've never been very good at the sort co—operative movements and actually sort of coming together to actually market the eggs, market the pigs and so on and the dairy products to make sure that then the retail have, you know, have to have to negotiate with a very large what they're inclined to do. the retailers is pick off individual even if they are quite big their muscle the retailer is muscle is greater if like than the farmers so i think it's a combination let's get

people eating more locally. it's a great idea . people are doing a great idea. people are doing it. but we've also got to feed the nation and you know, especially in a cost of living crisis, people are very conscious of price. and if you take little and aldi for instance, you know, they produce, you know, good quality poultry, meat , the board, all poultry, meat, the board, all british meat and they actually pay british meat and they actually pay the home as well but actually take less profit in the retail chain and that's where think some of our other retailers need to actually learn believe it or not from german supermarket it's who have in germany you do have a actually better system of actually buying from the farmer and the farmer actually getting a fair price. so i think farmers need to come together more . but i also think, together more. but i also think, you know, the retailers don't just blame flu because i said i will repeat is not we haven't lost that many birds through flu. most of the drop in poultry production is because farmers can't afford keep them. so i

think you know that's solved problem by getting a decent price farmers would use this great food you know let's have the welfare and let's make that we have a quality in this country that people can get that in the supermarket is no part of an important thank you for that this evening . moving on after this evening. moving on after the break, myself my panel will be discussing tv show ancient . be discussing tv show ancient. it's been dubbed the most dangerous show on netflix. it's not really the case. back .

in two. welcome to neil oliver live. and now the documentary we see these ancient apocalypse is currently one of the most popular shows on netflix presented by writer graham . it posits a theory that graham. it posits a theory that an advanced civilisation existed 12,000 years ago before being wiped out by comets and flooding. let's take a look . did flooding. let's take a look. did you know that you were picking a

fight , you know that you were picking a fight, academia, you know that you were picking a fight , academia, because you had fight, academia, because you had a lot of people just don't want to hear this . you have been to hear this. you have been at the forefront the mind for decades and you exposed to a lot of these controversies or ideas that have now substantiated . that have now substantiated. well, i'm graham . i don't claim well, i'm graham. i don't claim to be an archaeologist or a scientist. i am a journalist. and the subject that i'm investigating is human pre—history . and emma, you were pre—history. and emma, you were keen you're both keen to talk about this particular subject that's appealing to you about i love this series cause i don't binge watch things. i watched a number the series episodes back to back. it's marvellous and. the reason why is because it's so exciting and obviously as was touched on there in that clip , touched on there in that clip, he's pushing back big archaeology and he's proposing

theories based on that the penod theories based on that the period many many thousands of years ago, the younger at the end of the ice age that before that period around that time there may have been civilisation and episode takes you to different places the world looking at evidence of civilised nafion looking at evidence of civilised nation maybe being older than orthodox view the archaeologists take and his has come up against a whole host of pushback . actual a whole host of pushback. actual censorship from the archaeology community. and it's just exciting. and what i find so interesting about this and there was a guardian review terrible , was a guardian review terrible, terrible review from the guardian unexpected suggesting that this tv show was actually dangerous and he went so far as to imply that you get from this to imply that you get from this to believing that 911 was an inside job and that biden was elected with voter fraud. it was this article was was completely unhinged and. what i find so

interesting about this is the mindset that it exposes . it's mindset that it exposes. it's not dissimilar from those were unwilling to be sceptical and to do with relating to the pandemic andifs do with relating to the pandemic and it's just it's something me that just seems so curious . that just seems so curious. people who care about archaeology and care history wouldn't really want to know what . explain some of this what. explain some of this unusual and anomalous evidence . unusual and anomalous evidence. and this series is just absolutely a gripping why shouldn't we have these conversations ? i'm an i'm conversations? i'm an i'm archaeologist by training. i know and i have only i have my ideas about all sorts of aspects of ancient i'm only fascinated by this john lewis. oh so he says he's he's a journalist and writer he's just has an obsession of interest in the subject and i am only fascinated by what he has to say because is pieces of a jigsaw. by what he has to say because is pieces of a jigsaw . and you pieces of a jigsaw. and you understand and more and more we wouldn't have known lot about what exists in history today . it what exists in history today. it hadnt what exists in history today. it hadn't been unearthed and

hasn't. and all the carbon dating and everything we have brilliant . so dating and everything we have brilliant. so isn't dating and everything we have brilliant . so isn't there brilliant. so isn't there a reason for that as well ? sci fi. reason for that as well? sci fi. oh, great. now we really, really know i have to go back to this chap the writer and the guardian. i mean, i'm going to name shame him heritage he called preposterously boring unbelievable but then i have to say something he said and if and talking about graham hancock i've got to talk back what changes we know about ourselves then that's he's saying that kind of oh well if he's right, it changes everything about what we know about ourselves. well let me go back, because i know about graham hancock from about 25 years ago. i'm so excited and i didn't know this. so thank thank you for introducing this whole show and he wrote fingerprints of the gods. no, i,

i read keep of genesis. he fingerprints of the gods. no, i, i read keep of genesis . he wrote i read keep of genesis. he wrote lots of other things. and with robert powerful and i was really interested in the pyramids and i was i didn't get a point in a quiz when they said how old the pyramids because the answer as known at the time was 2500 bc. actually they proved that was wrong. it was 4000 bc. so when and he so if he's right it changes things how we feel about ourselves with this it changed his faith he was right it's only good to keep talking about these things. it's i'm going told him that you were running out of time but only good to time on this, but only good to keep talking the time about established just case established fact just in case there's more live. absolutely it is. it's about wonder. is. and it's also about wonder. we discover things . we're we discover things. we're cunous we discover things. we're curious because we're filled with wonder at the world and what this document has done and why think popular is why i think it's so popular is because opened our minds , because it's opened our minds, the possibilities that maybe the established way thinking established way of thinking about things isn't completely ironclad, maybe is more out

there to be discovered underneath . the oceans from just underneath. the oceans from just at end of the last ice age . and at end of the last ice age. and i think that that is something that we need right now we need curiosity and wonder and awe. it's human nature and it's the fact that if he's you know if the archaeological orthodoxy wants to challenge , then fine wants to challenge, then fine and that's appropriate and that's the way it should. they won't even engage him engage. and they would rather just pretend he doesn't exist . they pretend he doesn't exist. they would have resisted it's actually it's saying taking off the here and not only will they not engage with him. they won't with the effort evidence either . and that's something that he talks in the documentary. talks about in the documentary. i urge everybody go and i would urge everybody to go and watch it is great. yes and it's just i always i'm always just i am always i'm always ambivalent or open minded to the possibility . what i think is possibility. what i think is absolutely the case might be. and i just think the thing that's fascinating , the antidote that's fascinating, the antidote to hubris , it's the fun of it. to hubris, it's the fun of it. it's the fun of it. the possibility. got to go to break . so sorry, but i think that for

us the night after the break be meeting the seven year old molly tuttle, a true great who's been raising money for cancer and diabetes charity. so she has .

welcome back to new all of a life. still to on the program i'll be speaking a pair of researchers who have made a truly amazing fossil discovery in wales. we'll be learning more . the ceo sleepout and which business figures to join the fight against by spending a night sleeping themselves. and after all that hard work, receiving myself , ingrid and receiving myself, ingrid and emma are going to be treated to some festive mince pies, close shore. yes, we are looking forward that. all of that still to come. but first let's get the latest news headlines from our

own armstrong . and thanks, neil. own armstrong. and thanks, neil. it is 7:00 in the gb newsroom. the head of the london fire bngade the head of the london fire brigade says firefighters will be if they're found to have bullied or been racist, misogynistic or homophobic. and he rose promised a zero tolerance approach after an independent review found , a independent review found, a toxic culture within the service accounts in the report ranged from a black firefighter who had a noose placed by his locker to women being groped and people having helmets filled with urine . the review was commissioned after a 20 firefighter took his own life in 2020. we're going conduct a five year case review so we look across all those cases , those terrible behaviours cases, those terrible behaviours as examples of bullying and harassment which had been considered before the nfp and put them back through in the process. and i do expect people to be dismissed as a result. we

will become the first service in the country to , wear body worn the country to, wear body worn video cameras , ensure both the video cameras, ensure both the safety of our staff and to reassure public. so these are examples of what we do in doing media. a woman's and around ten people are missing after a heavy rainfall. landslides on the southern italy island of ischia. earlier today, the mudslide cut through a town engulfing buildings and sweeping cars into the sea . dozens of people are the sea. dozens of people are reportedly inside homes and. rescuers are continue going to search for victims . yellow search for victims. yellow weather warnings are place for large parts of the uk with heavy rain expected to cause flooding in scotland. the met office says rain and strong winds are expected needed to affect southern england and wales. yellow alert in those parts of the country run until 3 am. tomorrow. buses and trains will likely be affected . former likely be affected. former scotland rugby union international and british and irish doddie weir has died at the age of 52. we always with

motor neurone disease. in december 2016. he won one caps for his country and selected for the successful lions tour to south africa in 1997. we are his profile to raise awareness of the and generated funds . his the and generated funds. his charity foundation and the flashdance and singer irene cara has passed away at the age of 63. th musician best known for singing and co—writing the song flashdance. what a feeling . her flashdance. what a feeling. her publicist announced her passing at her florida home on twitter. the cause , her death remains the cause, her death remains unknown . on online and dab. plus unknown. on online and dab. plus radio. this is gb news. and now it back to neil oliver live .

it back to neil oliver live. thanks adam. welcome back to new all our life. now i wait all week to have my spirits raised by someone deserving of the title britain. amid all the doom gloom news of those who give of themselves in order to improve themselves in order to improve the of others. well, it's a tonic for troubled souls. this week's example is set by seven year old molly tuttle from derby , who has had more than two feet of her long blonde hair cut off to raise hundreds of pounds for the new zealand cancer unit. local hospital and for derby diabetic fund club . and if that diabetic fund club. and if that wasn't enough molly deals by day with type one diabetes. i'm joined now by molly turner and her mom , amy. hello, both. how her mom, amy. hello, both. how are you ? well, look at you with are you? well, look at you with your fabulous bobbed hairstyle. how are you liking ? your new how are you liking? your new look , jackie ? yes how did. how

look, jackie? yes how did. how long had it taken you to grow your hair? as long as used to be before you got it cut cut . one before you got it cut cut. one and a half years . right. so all and a half years. right. so all the way through lockdown and all of that. you were just quietly growing your hair hair. of that. you were just quietly growing your hair hair . well, growing your hair hair. well, you really have . and molly, what you really have. and molly, what did you make of your friend said? because a bit of properly used to you with your long hair . what did she say when he saw you with your with your new updated look. most of them are sharp shannon said what if you don't with them on my back and that's a that's a very good question what have you what have you done with your. what has it been sent to become a wake . a been sent to become a wake. a wig . go to work. my been sent to become a wake. a wig . go to work . my little wig. go to work. my little prince has interest . right. so prince has interest. right. so you're here . is now going to you're here. is now going to help someone else ? yes fantastic

help someone else? yes fantastic . now, amy amy, how much have you managed to raise or how much has molly raised? far. no. at the moment, the total stands £2,300. and so be 1150 for each charity. and then hair itself. obviously going to the princess trust, which we've got a little bit towards well for them. and so through charges of something i'll do it absolutely wonderful fantastic contraption . where did fantastic contraption. where did you get the idea? molly what made you do it. had you had you had other people doing it? was it something you thought sounded like a good idea ? yeah yeah. she like a good idea? yeah yeah. she decided she wanted to do it. and then we had a friend passed away beginning of the year , and so beginning of the year, and so she said she wanted to put it off and donate the money . lord off and donate the money. lord help to look after her before she passed away that and then dan collapsed in april we found

out that she had diabetes and we met the phone club . she said, met the phone club. she said, can i give some to them to help them? so we said, why not? it's been long enough. she'd been nagging long enough. so i definitely knew she wanted to do it . and that's, that's the it. and that's, that's where the ideas came from. and amy, were you surprised when molly said she was going to do this or was it was it kind of in keeping with the kind to get old molly is and she can be a bit so i did i waited a bit and put it off a little bit longer just to i waited a bit and put it off a little bit longerjust to make sure it's what she wanted do and but yeah, she kept on going about it . so but yeah, she kept on going about it. so and what she's made about it. so and what she's made a model, it's definitely helped me. well i think it's absolutely fantastic. and furthermore, i think you suit your hair, molly. i think . it's a good look. think you suit your hair, molly. i think . it's a good look . it i think. it's a good look. it must be life. it must make life a lot easier as well. so much easier to wash. get ready for going out . yeah definitely a lot going out. yeah definitely a lot of time saved in the morning . of time saved in the morning. not so much combing and brushing

. now tell us. tell us . how can . now tell us. tell us. how can our viewers maybe help with what should they do if they want ? get should they do if they want? get involved . if they go on to just involved. if they go on to just give it. it's a crowdfund simply a page on the molly's big chop . a page on the molly's big chop. so any more donations from there will then be split to everybody accordingly. so you to everybody who has donated far we started off looking fo r £100 for each off looking for £100 for each and i've just been blown away by how much, especially given how i've at the moment with the energy crisis and the money for every how tight it is. so thank you and thank you for anybody else who just donate it makes a huge difference for the charities perfect molly and you've done as i hoped you would you've done as i hoped you would you've you've made the evening and you've raised everyone's spirits and molly especially to you well done. what a fantastic gesture . you are definitely gesture. you are definitely a great britain and you can go

ahead. i want i said so . all ahead. i want i said so. all right. thanks both . thanks both right. thanks both. thanks both people very much. thank you again . hope. thanks for no , it's again. hope. thanks for no, it's lovely isn't it lovely to hear stories. heart warming , just stories. heart warming, just gorgeous. you know ? i mean, what gorgeous. you know? i mean, what makes what makes a wee girl, you know, seven year old, you know, he's got her own things going on there. but things doing something for other people i know it's speaks and actually to have the confidence go long from short because then you've got that's a big thing for a little girl to do you know what's absolutely so about that as well because a lot of the little princess princesses i think it's the little princess trust i could be wrong but i think the girls, you know , with cuts and girls, you know, with cuts and they lose their hair the most is to have the long hair. they lose their hair the most is to have the long hair . you can to have the long hair. you can imagine it. yeah that is just so special, you know, like it was short and a year and half is

quite a big chunk of years of her life and she'll do it against the nets and just doing that every 18 months to some , that every 18 months to some, she could be on a roll. there's something profoundly encouraging , i think, of hearing even just one story of one. yeah, seven year old, someone so young, hazel already, for whatever reason. and outside influences is looking beyond themselves and of it's something that they could. yeah but you because she collapsed herself and she had this diabetes of it put it very much in perspective and it became much personalised so therefore she received the benefit of the care that she had not the you need to have anything like that for the nursing care. so that started the kind of the path know towards giving back. yes seeing other people in other circumstances. yes. yeah being reminded of this. it will face lovely. have to break again and then we'll be speaking to the researchers who have made a major fossil discovery in wales

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40 well welcome back to neil oliver live. i've got some emails in from feedback from the first part of the show you must be aware of unions are communist led to striking because is struggling and are taking advantage to further destroy britain . unfortunately, workers britain. unfortunately, workers join the unions instead of standing up for britain the workers who join an anti british strike and for more money pitch pnces. strike and for more money pitch prices . and so the circle of prices. and so the circle of prices. and so the circle of price rises grows. that's from rowan . i'm screaming my tv. rowan. i'm screaming my tv. you're missing the point and contradicting each other . the contradicting each other. the discussion you're having does not the problem or present the solution let the corporations pay solution let the corporations pay their share of taxes which they avoid and. i have evidence to prove this. i think billion in unpaid taxes from nine companies. guys, we fighting each other and avoiding the

beast. that's from reggie in surrey . david eldridge says . we surrey. david eldridge says. we need politicians who speak for the instead of the pygmy rabble we have now. i quite like that rabble rousing coin that collective term , a pygmy rabble collective term, a pygmy rabble . please would messrs farage, tice and, all others on the so—called right, come together to form a to party the status quo . and there we. very good. quo. and there we. very good. nice changing the subject somewhat . fossils discovered somewhat. fossils discovered wales may be the first of the kind to be found outside of nonh kind to be found outside of north america. that's for people. because isn't this. oh, yes . your headline statement . is yes. your headline statement. is there something going on? why are you doing in a rock in a sheep field near the town ? sheep field near the town? llandrindod a hundred llandrindod wells. the creatures in question were last up in a

boat, perhaps 460 million years ago, or hundred and 60 million believe. all right, get your head around that depth time. joining me now are dr. jill botting , dr. lucy muir who made botting, dr. lucy muir who made 7 botting, dr. lucy muir who made ? the discovery. fantastic. thanks for joining ? the discovery. fantastic. thanks forjoining us ? the discovery. fantastic. thanks for joining us very exciting people here i have to tell first of all which one of you likes to take the lead on this one. what exactly you found ? och well, we basically stumbled the sort of thing that palaeontologists dream , but palaeontologists dream, but never really happens . so all the never really happens. so all the fossils are everywhere, even of this sort of age that have extremely common. but what don't get is anything shells and bones , really hot bits, because else just rocks away . so there are just rocks away. so there are some weird places, little sort of flukes nature around the world where you actually get the soft bodied fossils preserved. and that's we stumbled across

actually during the lockdown . it actually during the lockdown. it just a few miles from my house . just a few miles from my house. and why are you holding something? can you hold can you hold it up? we need to your face. the first paper that we've just had published is on a thing like this, which is an extraordinary little creature called ochre bynea . ours is called ochre bynea. ours is slightly different to this and it goes back the earliest arthropods. so like insects and crabs , lobster and so on that crabs, lobster and so on that have jointed legs and a hard carapace . but this is before carapace. but this is before they've evolved so they're halfway between a worm and a proper arthropod was that the size of the model that you were holding there? was that the size of pavilion in life ? pretty of pavilion in life? pretty much, yeah. they get to nearly that size. so about ten, 15 centimetres is the maximum that goes on. it's. centimetres is the maximum that goes on. it's . and ours are goes on. it's. and ours are somewhat smaller. goes on. it's. and ours are somewhat smaller . they but the somewhat smaller. they but the larger one is about a millimetre and a half or a half smaller one's about three millimetres.

so they're quite small and a bit difficult to see now what kind of life ? let me think about the of life? let me think about the features . what kind of life did features. what kind of life did up features. what kind of life did up body have ? where did they up body have? where did they live? how did they live live ? live? how did they live live? it's a little bit of a tale because it's so few isn't known . they had tiny stubby little legs that's that's a different fossil opening up tiny stuff in two legs and swimming flaps so they were probably crawling around on the sea floor , maybe around on the sea floor, maybe swimming a little bit, picking small things with this amazing pincers and, putting it into the mouth, which was under here. so it was probably eating very small things. yeah, we think it might been scavenging might have been scavenging possibly tiny animals possibly for eating tiny animals were even smaller when it . but were even smaller when it. but a lot of the time when it's when we're interpreting the early life habits of these we're not guessing because you can how bits of it work and how they have evolved for certain purposes but there's always

going to be some that we don't understand how significant is how significant is a discovery like this that you've . the like this that you've. the first. oh i'm very because there's lots of fossils known from the cambrian periods when animal life really got going but for middle ordovician 460 million years ago really this new is about the only one that's got a variety of creatures and now the other thing is that arthropods are the most diverse and not quite abundant, but one of the one of the most abundant groups of animals on the planet today. groups of animals on the planet today . and just understanding today. and just understanding how they went from a sort of worm ancestors with little stubby legs or none at all to something that we recognise , as something that we recognise, as you know, great big crunchy centipede , whatever it is , has centipede, whatever it is, has all sorts of implications for how ecology was evolving at the same time. and so, i mean, they're just fascinating things . it's a big gap and knowledge.

so these are not going solve the whole story on their own, but they have a big piece of the jigsaw puzzle over hardly examples elsewhere . so and examples elsewhere. so and previously the only examples of this species were in north america is that right. not actually of this species. they only related things at all. so the only things with this nozzle coming out the front of the head from one site in canada called the burgess , which is one of the the burgess, which is one of the most celebrated fossil deposits in the world and a single specimen from utah the same age and, even in the burgess shale, is only 40 specimens. no out of more than a century of collecting and some animals they got of from there . so got thousands of from there. so these really rare as these things are really rare as fossils a new fossils yeah so this is a new species it has features that are a little bit some up into the original one and we named as everything which translates an bramble snout it had spines on its proboscis and we've actually used the welsh language for the name just honour it being found in wales . yeah and yeah since ,

in wales. yeah and yeah since, since you mention that i think we should address the fact we're in the world wars , the territory in the world wars, the territory we call . 460 in the world wars, the territory we call. 460 million in the world wars, the territory we call . 460 million years in the world wars, the territory we call. 460 million years ago . we call. 460 million years ago. well as you probably know the continents of move through time so what's our wales is a lot further south it was actually in subtropical latitude 460 million years ago or to make a continent called apollonia along with parts of nova scotia west of england and wales bits of france and belgium . and it was actually and belgium. and it was actually and belgium. and it was actually a huge ocean, the ocean between what is now wales and what sort of scotland and the rest of nonh of scotland and the rest of north america was joined in scotland . so it was really quite scotland. so it was really quite different and this was before life got going on land so the continents wouldn't have been green, been the of green, they'd have been the of just rocks and the earth was just the rocks and the earth was a lot warmer. the ice caps at the poles. we went in an ice age like we are now. the other thing is we're is that locally the area we're working in was a volcanic island at time, so you can imagine at this time, so you can imagine something like

something a lot more like indonesia wales . and indonesia than modern wales. and this a this is just a it's all it's impossible really to your head around how impossibly different the world was when these creatures were were found. it's so exciting i mean i just want to say them congratulations they must be so excited if we're this excited about and you know going back to the previous segment we were talking how much we really know our ancient history going thousands of years so going back this far the world was a completely place and. you know, the sorts of creatures existed, the ones that we're of are so far beyond , you know, the are so far beyond, you know, the sorts of things that we're familiar with as life forms now. but as you were saying to us in the break, neil, that so much of our of, you know , the fossil our of, you know, the fossil record, so much of our really truly ancient history is unknown to us and so we really shouldn't so much arrogance and hubris

being willing to look at new new evidence look at the facts and build a picture of our that is based the evidence. yes, but still open the possibilities that we don't know everything and we probably never will. yeah, i'm with i'm with him . yeah, i'm with i'm with him. that ingrid, it's that idea that every moment of every day there's the possibility of discovering that upends our understanding. exactly of the ends or introduces something we never even considered but is i mean, it's i just love it. and as you said, it's another part . as you said, it's another part. the jigsaw you know we will never get the full jigsaw will be always pieces missing. but how interesting. and then in that whole jigsaw puzzle then you get to how the world was at that time which is a brilliant question charles did it was underwater cumbria we know it was underwater. i just want to say it's this, you know, the greta thunberg followers out

there just to get the sympathy at that time . this is 488 at that time. this is 488 millennia go. i'd say half a million years ago . the for the million years ago. the for the most part , earth's climate was most part, earth's climate was warm. and what sea levels rising as much as 1970 feet in old language, 600 metres in modern language, 600 metres in modern language above those of today . language above those of today. so this happens as we have not so normal climatic changes and there'll be more discoveries like this as more as the world shifts , it gets drier and sea shifts, it gets drier and sea beds dry up , shifts, it gets drier and sea beds dry up, etc. let's just get on that and just embrace what we're going to discover next. you lucy, are there still more discoveries to be made in the sheep as there is the start of something ? oh, there were lots something? oh, there were lots more. so the fossils. there are some that we've collected a lot we know are still there to be

found and we're starting to write up more things . we think write up more things. we think we've got certain specific groups of worms that otherwise have no fossil record , so that's have no fossil record, so that's really quite exciting to work on. yeah, but it's how house being taken over by little boxes of there's an awful lot more to come . i mean is there any is come. i mean is there any is there any way do you get do you get a sense sometimes as people yourselves who about this all of the time you know what percentage of that past have we touched upon and what percentage might be still out there entirely and to what extent, are we still scratching at surface ? we still scratching at surface? a really difficult one to answer because it varies through time as well . but when you get as well. but when you get a fauna like this, a new one, then we've a reasonable expectation . we've a reasonable expectation. almost everything that was living there at that time has been fossilised . but it's one been fossilised. but it's one tiny little ecosystem it's just the way it is thing. it's sort of 20 centimetre thick layer and

you get things like this popping up all over the place and this entire fossil is about a millimetre and a half long and the bits sticking the top with these sort of feathery bits is actually completely soft tissue and. you can see there's a lot of fine in there, but it's the problem is we have just extremely rare windows you can't see what's even a half mile down the road, let alone other countries. so probably it's a tiny percentage . everything that tiny percentage. everything that was living at this time that we know about some fossil groups, things that had hard shells that preserve well, those we know a lot about their evolution but many groups of worms are entirely soft bodied. we might only have handful of fossils throughout last 5 billion years, so really that is going to what you're looking at. but overall, there's an awful lot more to discover. it's very like first sort of exploration of the deep sea where will be these sea where there will be these voyages discovery where they send little dredge buckets send out little dredge buckets and up , you know,

send out little dredge buckets and up, you know, a send out little dredge buckets and up , you know, a bucket and pull up, you know, a bucket full of deep sea mud and find some things there have never some things in there have never been before , but they had been seen before, but they had no how much else was no idea how much else was missing at the time. no idea how much else was missing at the time . and there missing at the time. and there you had the potential have more and expeditions and and more expeditions and eventually up quite bit eventually up quite a bit picture still though new picture but still though new things being found even in the deep today so what there deep alive today so what there is left to be found in the fossil world what ? so what fossil world what? so what precisely the process by which , precisely the process by which, you know, as you said, you know, tiny little some millimetres long softball added animal becomes . what's the process you becomes. what's the process you . yeah it's something not fully understood it's there's a lot of different ways of preserving self positive organisms these ones here that are preserved in carbon films as is the burgess shale and other places, they're preserved in pyrite and fool's gold. so there's several different mechanisms in general , seems as though they have to be buried alive or shortly be buried alive or very shortly after death in anoxic mud so they don't decay . but then

they don't decay. but then you've something to you've got to do something to out bacteria and stop out the anoxic bacteria and stop them from decaying as well . and them from decaying as well. and there are around how this happenedin there are around how this happened in the cambrian burgess shale and sort of leading into the ordovician . and it's the ordovician. and it's something possibly to do with sea level. so seawater chemistry which led to a sort of very rapid sealing by minerals , the rapid sealing by minerals, the sea floor that stopped water circulating through it . so any circulating through it. so any bacteria that started get to work rapidly poisoned themselves using up all the oxygen , all of using up all the oxygen, all of them producing too many waste products . so it may be something products. so it may be something like that, but the details of the chemistry are still elusive there's a lot of people working on it, but who? it's nothing less than miraculous, isn't it really that something so ephemeral and from 460 million years ago in space, by whatever means has been preserved for us to at it today, that's that's nothing less than a miracle . it nothing less than a miracle. it is something with on field work but suddenly stop and think the

first humans ever to see these things. it'sjust first humans ever to see these things. it's just an first humans ever to see these things. it'sjust an amazing things. it's just an amazing feeling , even if it's something feeling, even if it's something you see dozens of before. still an i one of an amazing feeling. i one of the things we we got but things that we think we got but it's not published or anything out a tina four comb out is a tina four comb jelly which probably the most delicate things you can possibly imagine . they're beautiful in life . . they're beautiful in life. they've got sort of iridescent coating, very sweet with sort of colours and patterns running the side of them. but there's just to they're little wisps of to them, they're little wisps of . preserve something like . and to preserve something like that, you basically need some sort of fluke of chemistry and. it was not thought that sort of this window, the chemical window to preserve these things survived into the middle of vision . so it was just vision. so it was just completely out of the blue. this turned up . and it's such a turned up. and it's such a limited little deposit as well, just 20 centimetres in one tiny quarry . wonderful stuff. you quarry. wonderful stuff. you don't trust joe barton unless immediate. thank you so much for your time. you've made three people in this studio, at least

very. thank you. thank you for that. it's been a pleasure. thank you very. thank you. it's a wonder it you know, something made jelly . a wonder it you know, something made jelly. mm. long and it's made of jelly. mm. long and it's there for us to see hundred and 60 million years later and then the chances of them finding it as well. yes i know. i know . as well. yes i know. i know. it's another break upon us after which we'll be learning about the chief exec of officer sleepout during business. people spend a night under the stars to raise money and awareness homelessness. see you 2 minutes . we homelessness. see you 2 minutes. we people's channel. i'm right. the united kingdom. you can us on sky channel 512 virgin media . sky channel 512 virgin media. 2604 freesat channel 216 the freeview . channel three six and freeview. channel three six and youview channel 236. you can also take us with you on dab plus radio with the gb news app and that the website gbnews.uk. we're absolutely everywhere. come us on gb news. the channel

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channel welcome back , neil oliver live. welcome back, neil oliver live. my welcome back, neil oliver live. my next this evening was part of a mass sleepout last week to raise awareness homelessness. hennk raise awareness homelessness. henrik md of flemings mayfair hotel was among 100 business leaders who bedded down outdoors at lord's cricket ground in london, raising hundred and £30,000. charity in the process . and is with me now in the studio and also joining us down the line is , bianca robinson, the line is, bianca robinson, ceo of the charity sleepout . ceo of the charity sleepout. welcome to you both . thank you welcome to you both. thank you for being with us. henrik been paying for being with us. henrik been paying attention to homelessness a while. this is not new for you . it. n0. a while. this is not new for you . it. no. i'm doing this since two and a half years. i started that sas on the beginning of the

lockdown . and you issue, don't lockdown. and you issue, don't you, with london mayor sadiq khanin you, with london mayor sadiq khan in relation charities like your own. yes well we you know have to raise money for our charity. so i'm just a volunteer. i'm just a normal volunteer. i'm just a normal volunteer and are every friday across time in cross station . across time in cross station. and we look after about 200 homeless and people in need . homeless and people in need. it's not just homeless is also people in need. and we see in the line growing by the week at the line growing by the week at the moment and unfortunately we bnng the moment and unfortunately we bring food in with the van and so we have to pay the congestion charge we to pay the other is that and this cost us so far year about the last 12 months we thousand pound . so we talk about thousand pound. so we talk about or sleep outs therefore i have to go and sleep outside to raise money so the you know that we can operate. emma you both you both drew and it comes surprise that the lord is charging a

charity to feed the homeless . it charity to feed the homeless. it more than a surprise , a shock. more than a surprise, a shock. he's part of the problem . and he's part of the problem. and you are actually helping with solution and he's making it hard . oh, he's such a horrible little . that's all you really little. that's all you really said it. i mean. i have to say i'm not i'm not shocked that sadiq khan is doing reprehensible by it, but it is shocking and just the sheer amount of money, i mean, that is money that could be spent on helping those homeless people . helping those homeless people. absolutely. so it really is abominable. sadiq if abominable. sadiq khan, if you're not paying much attention to this, but you know, someone needs to make sure that that that city hall are aware this so that city hall are aware this so that they can give you some of exemption because it's outrageous . and, you know, it's outrageous. and, you know, it's the only city, the world where you as a soup kitchen in germany we call it a food charges you know so we have to raise the money and we're not the only one. i mean, we have so

charities and have to raise the money actually to because it's not just the petrol all of course but it's the congestion charge and the other it's crazy. so you're starting from below zero, basically got to get to nothing before you can even start to it. and of course, now everybody i saw in the news he's extending the zone you know, so it's even more charities will be be difficult for even more charities to operate wouldn't be great if going back to your monologue people just are not paying monologue people just are not paying i'm not paying the congestion charge we'll see what happens. bianca robinson , what happens. bianca robinson, what is the idea? tell me behind having business leaders involved in this week? what's the what does that generate in terms of interest help for the objective. well, listen, what we say is, if you past somebody on your way to your business, you know , that your business, you know, that person who's rough sleeping could be a mirror to ourselves that's what we're trying to say it's about being a leader with purpose. and once you understand

that person's got the same perhaps dreams, talents , perhaps dreams, hopes, talents, desire for care and definitely shelter. then you can start create that, unlock their empathy , unlock that empathy, unlock that understanding, and then your business. like what? henrik does you can actually take actions and, take steps to strengthen fabnc and, take steps to strengthen fabric of society and help minimise the problem. the powers that be aren't going do it for us. it has to be people power. but i think business is where it set businesses where powerful gather the voice is heard by more than just your average person. and when we bring them together amazing things happen. and neil i can tell you this is an exclusive for gb news news. we have hit th e £200,000 raise we have hit the £200,000 raise raised today at ceo sleep out london . no small thanks to london. no small thanks to hennk london. no small thanks to henrik here himself, who singlehandedly. henrik here himself, who singlehandedly . raised henrik here himself, who singlehandedly. raise d £24,000

singlehandedly. raised £24,000 oh, that is brilliant . you speak oh, that is brilliant. you speak so eloquently, bianca , about why so eloquently, bianca, about why what it what it means and why it's important and how much we all need to pay attention to the people that we would otherwise step over on street. when you've got so much passion about the objective, you how much does what henrik was talking about with the congestion charge how much does that affect sleep uk how much a handicap is it for you ? yeah, it's very much a and you? yeah, it's very much a and i do think it's something he's got wrong. it needs to on the agenda and needs to be repurposed because we could do so much good with that extra cash. so much good with that extra cash . i mean we fund grassroots cash. i mean we fund grassroots charities. that's what we do with grants giving umbrella charity. we raise it's like a robin hood. we raised from people, got contacts who've got money and we redistribute it. in this case , grassroots charities this case, grassroots charities across london. every single one of those charities needs our just funding so that they can keep doing what they do , keep doing what they do, supporting more people than ever

. i mean, is this is this cost living starts to bite. we're going to see with kids with nowhere go presenting as homeless. the councils don't have adequate accommodation for these people it's unfair unsecure mean we had somebody last week you know the coroner's inquest on the little boy that died from living in an accommodation that was thick with mould that is not a unique story it's not happening it's not acceptable and actually got together this groundswell support to change that that money that you're talking about every makes a massive difference so yes absolutely that money should be repurposed this this situation in which you find yourselves cut to ceo of sadiq khanisit yourselves cut to ceo of sadiq khan is it is new is it sadiq khan is it is new is it sadiq khan that has created the situation or does it predate him that charity is we're having to are having to pay to operate within the city of london i listen i'm not the person to ask about that. i live in the

north—east of england. i paid the ulez charge when i come into london, which is very frequently i absolutely think it's not right that a charity should have to pay it. however, think to pay it. however, i think there are forces play there are bigger forces play than khan himself. than sadiq khan himself. obviously global obviously this is the global effort to tackle climate crisis. so for my part, i think he's it to meet our paris agreement targets. he's doing it to meet the un's sustainable development . he's doing it to try and bring us into line what many, many countries around globally are doing. but when it comes to charities actually trying to pick up the pieces of a society that's clearly broken , neil, that's clearly broken, neil, when we have over a fifth of the population living in poverty already before this crisis is hitting and hundred and 70,000 households homeless in the uk which we've by the way, and it's not normal at all, it should not be accepted as we need all the help we can get to try and

support people who need our help and. those figures, the statistics are are shaming really in a country that considers itself to be a first world country. and has been a first world country . but as first world country. but as i see this situation as i mentioned with bianca does it is always been the case that charities like yours , like your charities like yours, like your own, has had to pay to operate in london or is it's a noose that's tightening it's maybe now coming out look just a volunteer at that charity know so i come every friday myself and we look after normally i would say 100 2050 people in need . it only 2050 people in need. it only comes now that the queue is much longer . for example, yesterday longer. for example, yesterday evening we had over 200 and what actually just said it's true . actually just said it's true. it's the first time in those two and a half years i have seen mothers with children and it's heartbreaking. you're looking after the queue and you have actually mothers with children coming and people would say, oh,

you know, do they need the food ? do they actually need this? yes because you could queue yes because if you could queue for in that cold weather for 2 hours in that cold weather and you and i think now where we have to raise more money to have more food. so you know to stock up our food the congestion charge the payments of course whatever the charity spend suddenly comes alight and in there the last 12 months is £3,000 an d £3,000. at the moment £3,000 and £3,000. at the moment we cook the two night meals to 6000 warm meals and we can't forget that most people who come to our charity and there are so many others but to come to our charity is the only warm per week . and i've started with the week. and i've started with the charity, even something different to get around the congestion charge a bit. i've done a bike project so we cook in my hotel . we cook every in my hotel. we cook every wednesday we cook for about 50 families and people in need, warm food and i have some really

young bike us and they have a backpack and then off they go from our and spread the food out because that's of course there is no congestion charge involved that's so small i mean it's you know, it's still it's 50 people's only warm food in the week. can i ask question can't they come to your hotel then instead because they're so far out. i mean we starting at 6:00 with the bikes and the last meal is delivered 20 to 30. so 10:30 pm, you know, so goes quite out of course is quite central to yes correct and that's why there's so many charities set up and every charity does every evening of the week as one charity or to charities who help people in needs and give food out and we are only there friday behind just listening to two hennk behind just listening to two henrik talk there it does it does as though as you see the one hand where the country is taking all of these steps ,

taking all of these steps, improve a future for people as yet unborn in many cases. and at the same , we're literally the same, we're literally stepping over the poor and the homelessness of today on the way the unknown future and as yet non—existent people that seems to be terribly short sighted and cruel 100. neil and do you know what i my mission really is get people at the top echelons business to kind start thinking that they are responsible for their patch and society know it's about the stewardship and we've got to look after each other when times are tough . yes other when times are tough. yes we've got to do whatever we can to address the climate warming that we're facing . however, we that we're facing. however, we can't hang our people out to dry and you know, it's absolute criminal that there's not situations and, there's not steps, there's not a process, there's not systems in the systems that we have a broken and every ceo can of it and i do

this all over the country we have people who have lived through homelessness and overcome and tell this story and the you hear time and time again is that they've gone through assist one of the systems that we've created people to prevent them from falling through the safety net and they've fallen through for whatever reason because they're not set up with any compassion with any care, with any follow up, with any joined up thinking or communication between agencies . communication between agencies. and it starts with kids in care quite often . and that leads to quite often. and that leads to breakdown of family life and homelessness. and you, kerry , homelessness. and you, kerry, who's one of our lived experience ambassadors , found experience ambassadors, found herself where. henrik gives out his emails and charing cross at the age of 13. she proceeded to live there for the following 11 years . i am live there for the following 11 years. i am trying to bring awareness this i'm trying to bnng awareness this i'm trying to bring awareness to a broken i'm

trying to say to business leaders look step up where. the powers that be have failed . we powers that be have failed. we can do something at least . and can do something at least. and in your business you can at least do one thing. whether it's give somebody with somebody from a to reach community a leg up, an apprenticeship and internship whether it's if you can pay the living wage pay it you know what can you do to help people put food on the table and give them some more security so they don't fall through these cracks . fall through these cracks. bianca robinson, thank you so much for your time and your insight. this and henrik, thank you for efforts it's moving and humbling to what you do so thank you both thank you . after the you both thank you. after the break, a change of tool and it's almost the season for some festive mince pies, unless elf and the panel are going to be treated. some live in the studio system .

welcome back. now, i know it's november, but with the year we've all having, we need the lift of christmas as soon as possible. think we're all agreed . my family will have the trees up within the next couple of weeks latest and all of weeks at the latest and all of those tidings just can't those glad tidings just can't come enough . with that in come soon enough. with that in mind , i'm joined in the studio mind, i'm joined in the studio now by the dream behind blondies kitchen purveyors of specialist dough mince pies among many delights. hello. both hello. i'm not sure how this working with. there we go. there we are. there we are at chelsea and crystal you so much for coming and how long has blondie's kitchen been going and how did you tell the back story? so we have been in business since 2016. we started crystal's parents kitchen making cookies and. then we started flogging our cookies out of old street station , and from there street station, and from there a self which has found us actually on media, which was all a bit of a whirlwind. we couldn't believe who it was already we it was

like a dream come true . and from like a dream come true. and from there we went in on a pop up for about four weeks selling , all of about four weeks selling, all of our cookie based products and on the back of being the most successful up in the history of the photo , they invited us back the photo, they invited us back in permanent, the photo, they invited us back in permanent , the most in permanent, the most successful pop up in the food hall. yeah that was in 2000. so what is the reason for is so i need you to blow your own trumpet here. but why do you think you attracted the attention of selfridges? and why are fastest pop are you the fastest pop up? what's ? i think is what's the magic? i think is also okay so a cookie , a very also okay so a cookie, a very simple product but it's about brand behind it. and was just us baking it. people followed our story of we were in the kitchen all day. we were selling we were in the kitchen selling food. so it was like they followed us from start to finish. so we had the social media behind us and the social media behind us and the product tastes absolutely delicious used to tell us, come on, we're going to we're going to eat these for real. tell us, talk us through some of the try.

yeah, absolutely. yeah, yeah, absolutely. we've got mince got you. we've got our mince cookie cops. we invented these back in 2018. great and they are basically the best mince pie you ever eat because instead of being encased in pastry, we encase in cookie dough . well, i encase in cookie dough. well, i just help myself . see they're just help myself. see they're all the same. okay all minced meat filling is actually it contains no alcohol so that friendly as well and eating them straight up like you're doing is equally when they're warm as well with cream or custard . ice well with cream or custard. ice cream. come on we they're a little bit off . you've got to little bit off. you've got to show this experience you delicious all night by my eldest son archie is has always been marked for mince pies my god absolutely paul to consume mince pie these i have to say but i've always they're delicious they really are i'm not just saying no i'm not always . but usually no i'm not always. but usually for me it's all about the inside

bit and it's the outside. but as usually, well, i don't like the best pies because i don't like the pastry. so this is exactly . the pastry. so this is exactly. for people message us saying, you know what i absolutely hate mince pies . i you know what i absolutely hate mince pies. i love yours. there's something for everyone. it's like treacly tart. yes oh, that's what it is like. yeah. it's like a tree . and the greek, it's like a tree. and the greek, the cookie is spiced well so. yeah, well, it's the filling that's spice. oh amazing. like infuses in the oven. exactly. it uses flavour. well it's what he told us it started just the two of you. yes. no it's how many people now with 22 in our team, we have all concession in selfridges photo and we've also got a micro shop in covent garden. we've also got all cookie van in westfield in stratford. the geniuses . how stratford. the geniuses. how many of these will you have to make between now and christmas? oh, over 200,000. yeah. 2000. no, no . do you have a kitchen

no, no. do you have a kitchen now? so whether we have we still have make every single mince pie. they all lovingly handmade, we don't use . this is why they we don't use. this is why they look homemade . because they are look homemade. because they are these kitchen. and what we do is so we use little mouths and use our hands. we mould the shape and then we put the filling in. we put the top and put them in the other 200,000 times, 200. yesterday but every single mince pie has a love put into it. oh i just i have to . what did you do just i have to. what did you do before ? and so i was actually a before? and so i was actually a cookery writer for bbc food. okay, i'm to be a chef. so i used work in restaurants and chelsea messaged me being like, do you want to do something together before ? only through together before? only through you when you ovie because we didn't know each . no, not well. didn't know each. no, not well. i was a bit of how i knew i'm going to. i'm going to have to wait in the shop. you've got the recipe for success. this is absolutely fantastic. but i'm afraid chelsea and crystal and

leningrad. that's all from me on. neil oliver live. thanks as always to eric and ingrid , your always to eric and ingrid, your endlessly wonderful . i'll see endlessly wonderful. i'll see you next week. next up , the you next week. next up, the berlin mark dolan tonight. have a great evening . looking ahead a great evening. looking ahead to tomorrow's weather , the uk to tomorrow's weather, the uk will be drier for many ghost hills. some rain across the south and far northwest. let's a look at the details. i've lost three star to sun across northern scotland . sunshine northern scotland. sunshine showers but wind blowing these through quickly. gales and exposed locations . temperatures exposed locations. temperatures around 5 to 9 degrees to start the day . sunshine degrees, many the day. sunshine degrees, many across northern ireland on sunday morning . the showers will sunday morning. the showers will quickly move into western areas. it's still fairly blustery especially around the coast. a dry start to the day across northern england . skies northern england. skies brightening slowly as the overnight cloud and rain edges away. winds much lighter to . the away. winds much lighter to. the breezy sun morning across north wales and the liverpool area for the most places will be dry. the skies will still be a little grey before brightening up

later. temperatures around eight celsius. a cloudy start the midlands with any overnight rain soon clearing skies will dry and brighten from northwest as the morning progresses. brighten from northwest as the morning progresses . winds much morning progresses. winds much lighter and temperatures around 11 celsius dull. lighter and temperatures around 11 celsius dull . grey lighter and temperatures around 11 celsius dull. grey a damp morning for east anglia the risk of some light rain at times towards the coast where it still be on the breezy side , further be on the breezy side, further rains expected across southern through the morning, especially central and eastern areas brightening up in the far west mild with temperatures around 12 for 13 celsius heading towards the rain will continue across south—east of england. brighter elsewhere with blustery showers , the northwest and that's how the weather shaping up during tomorrow morning morning .