barry. good morning . welcome to barry. good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news news, tv, radio and online . i news, tv, radio and online. i hope you have a lovely weekend. it is a brand new week and maybe we can find something to be cheerful about over the next 2 hours. i've got a glamorous panel to go through some big stories. great stories. i've got a great interview mp cates interview with mp miriam cates about controversial online about the controversial online home safety bill. and you've home safety bill. and if you've seen images coming out of seen these images coming out of china, you don't want to miss this. the are finally this. the people are finally rebelling authoritarian rebelling over authoritarian rule covid rule dressed up as their covid policy and matt hancock making it to the final of itv's a

it to the final of itv's i'm a celebrity. who on earth voted for him.7 common celebrity. who on earth voted for him? common sense for him? my common sense correspondent will correspondent jane slater will let what she and let us know what she thinks. and we've twitter poll on that we've got a twitter poll on that very topic. stay with me for all of that. but first, here's your latest with rosie . a very latest news with rosie. a very good morning to you. 10:01. i'm gracie, right? keeping you up to date . over 50 conservative mp date. over 50 conservative mp have urged the prime minister to change modern slavery laws in a bid to address the channel migrant crisis. the group, which includes former cabinet ministers, say migrants they believe are bogus asylum seekers who claim to be the victims of trafficking should be returned . trafficking should be returned. employees, including sir graham brady and esther mcvey, say the amendments would be a strong deterrent for those looking to make journey. the government make the journey. the government says is not one single says there is not one single policy to resolve migrant policy to resolve the migrant crisis but it would use crisis but that it would use every at disposal in every tool at its disposal in china. authority who have put up barriers around parts of shanghai. after hundreds of people protest against strict

covid restrictions , ten people covid restrictions, ten people were killed in a tower block fire over the weekend, and that sparked civil unrest in the caphal sparked civil unrest in the capital, beijing . shanghai and capital, beijing. shanghai and wuhan , the demonstrators claim wuhan, the demonstrators claim that coronavirus measures may have hindered their escape from the fire. they're calling for president, jumping to resign . president, jumping to resign. there's a huge police presence since a major cities, many people have been detained . the people have been detained. the number of that we don't know amid the chaos in shanghai, a bbc journalist was arrested . bbc journalist was arrested. okay. very cool. consulate. now moments before at lawrence had been handcuffed by police . the been handcuffed by police. the bbc says he was beaten and kicked and held for several hours before being released . the hours before being released. the broadcaster says the chinese authorities claim they arrested him for his own good in case he caught covid from the crowd. china's foreign ministry had this to say about the journalist , did not identify himself as a journalist and did not voluntarily present his press

credential to local law enforcement officials . more enforcement officials. more persuading people and a scene to leave those who refused to cooperate were then ushered away . china has always welcomed foreign journalists to conduct reporting activities in china in accordance with relevant laws and regulations . armed forces and regulations. armed forces could stand in for hospital staff as part of emergency plans to deal with possible strikes over the winter. health officials are drawing up contingencies to cover frontline workers ambulance drivers and workers as ambulance drivers and paramedics consider joining nurses in their upcoming walkouts . the government says walkouts. the government says it's working on a range of opfions it's working on a range of options with the nhs manage options with the nhs to manage disruption industrial disruption during the industrial action . three people have been action. three people have been arrested after two babies were found dead in a home in bridgend in south wales on saturday. two men, aged 37 and 47 and a 29 year old woman have been

arrested on suspicion of concealing the birth of a child . remain in police custody . they remain in police custody and investigations ongoing . and investigations are ongoing. police are appealing for anyone with to come with information to come forward. the government is launching a £1 billion scheme to make middle income homes more energy efficient . hundreds of energy efficient. hundreds of thousands of homes could receive loft and cavity wall insulation for three years from spring. it's mostly being targeted at households not currently it's mostly being targeted at hou support not currently it's mostly being targeted at hou support to not currently it's mostly being targeted at hou support to upgrade currently it's mostly being targeted at hou support to upgrade their ntly get support to upgrade their homes. with a fifth of the funding being targeted at the most the business most vulnerable, the business secretary, shapps, us secretary, grant shapps, told us the measures help the measures were to help households energy households reduce their energy consumption . £2 billion, which consumption. £2 billion, which is in addition to a lot more money that's been provided previously. is to allow anyone in any kind of housing could be private rent. it could be their own home to be social housing. so to improve the property in order to make sure that it meets those highest and it's and that will save people quite a lot of money . the shadow business money. the shadow business secretary, jonathan reynolds, told gb news labour wants to insulate in 19 million homes as

soon as possible . he does, soon as possible. he does, though, welcome the government's pledge . he says the plans are pledge. he says the plans are not ambitious enough. it's about ten years too late. i mean, this should have been a quick early win for the government. reducing people's fuel bills and doing the right the the right thing by the environment. i mean, it's a win win. has taken so long? win. why has it taken so long? this have neither this government have neither the ambition direction. ambition or the direction. and of course, welcome when they of course, i welcome when they come a little onto our come a little bit onto our territory, whether it's a windfall tax or greater energy efficiency, ambition but efficiency, ambition. but they've near the they've got nowhere near the comprehensive programme. they need country onto need to get this country onto the path . matt hancock has the right path. matt hancock has finished third on i'm a celeb. get me out of here with the retired england footballer jill scott queen of the scott being crowned queen of the jungle. former health jungle. the former health secretary one of three secretary was one of three finalists, which also included the actor warner the hollyoaks actor owen warner . the presenters, . speaking with the presenters, ant and dec, west suffolk mp ant and dec, the west suffolk mp recognised appearing on the show was controversial . he spent 18 was controversial. he spent 18 days in the australian jungle and conservative party and lost the conservative party whip . you're up to date on gb whip. you're up to date on gb news. i'll bring you more as it happens. now back to beth .

happens. now back to beth. very good morning. thank you for joining me here on bev turner today on gb news. now, have you seen these pictures of unprecedented protests in china against the countries increasingly authoritarian policies ? wraps up is a policies? wraps up is a zero—covid ambition as we start to hear echoes of tiananmen square. what might premier xi jinping do next? and an exclusive interview with a fantastic conservative mp miriam cates in the house of commons recently. she powerfully raised the issue of harm to children due to freely available online . due to freely available online. potentially, this might be solved by the online safety bill that's back in parliament next monday. so is now the time to have an age verification online? let me know what you think. and matt hancock finished third in i'm a celebrity last night and

emerged to a hug from a girlfriend who has apparently been brokering deals for his forthcoming media career. give me strength . we are running me strength. we are running a twitter poll to gauge your thoughts after i'm a celeb . when thoughts after i'm a celeb. when you forgive and forget matt hancock's handling of the pandemic, email me at pandemic, please do email me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb these scenes of protests in china all over social media in the last couple of days. they finally made it onto the mainstream media this morning. people over there are basically angry at xi's zero—covid approach , which involves mass approach, which involves mass testing , quarantine, quarantines testing, quarantine, quarantines and snap lockdowns. demonstrators in beijing last night call for the resignation of the premier xi jinping . and of the premier xi jinping. and our political correspondent tom harwood is with me now. very unusual time, isn't it, to see a population which is normally so subservient and so compliance,

taking action like this. it's an incredibly unusual set of events that we've seen in the last 48 hours, in particular, starting as sort of a very specific protest about the way in which people were physically locked into a tower block that caught fire. protesters saying that ten people died who didn't need to have died due to the incredibly harsh restrictions that the chinese communist party has placed on parts of the country in their zero covid policy. but the significant thing is that this has spread. it's not just one sort of pockets of protest. this is now growing in many different cities across the country. it's growing in university campuses as well as large population centres. and that's something that's very specific because there have been little protests about things in the past in china. usually there contains and they don't really make it into the western media at all. indeed, they don't really make it into the chinese

media. people in the country don't know about them. the fact that this protest has spread and grown organically and actually going much more widely than the specific events that started it, people are now calling in some of these protests for xi jinping to resign and that is a really, really difficult thing to say in a country like china. it's a really profound moment there are all sorts of reasons as to why this might be gaining this momentum at the moment. obviously, social media, even in china, where it's heavily policed, making impact. policed, is making an impact. there've thousands of there've been thousands of videos tik tok showing these videos on tik tok showing these protests. and there's also, of course, the theory pictures course, the theory that pictures of cup have been seen of the world cup have been seen overin of the world cup have been seen over in china. and they're obviously saying, well, hang on a minute, you don't have enough people stands . thousands of people in stands. thousands of people in stands. thousands of people masks aren't people without masks aren't locked house. this locked in their house. and this is lit the torch paper is sort of lit the torch paper for these protests to be emerging over there. we've also seen these pictures of these quarantine camps. tom, have you seen these images of these look like sort of metal boxes in the

desert? there's one in guangzhou city which has 9000 isole and parts that the chinese government said anything about those particular quarantine camps and what their purpose might be. the chinese government doesn't , as a rule, comment on doesn't, as a rule, comment on these things. they're incredibly secret live and indeed they don't want to add fuel to the fire on any of these points. but it's interesting to see sort of how they have been sort of struggling to respond to these new protests over the last two days. the chinese government hasn't really put out any clear statement . there have been some statement. there have been some arrests of protesters, but the sort of tiananmen style crackdown has not yet taken place . it is interesting to see place. it is interesting to see why perhaps the government hasn't sort of sent in the tanks already. perhaps their view is that these are simply too numerous mass protests to do that traditional harsh climate down at this stage so that might

have political ramifications. it's a potentially dangerous moment for this government because you're seeing really unprecedented civil disobedience from people. and let's not forget what a what a brave thing it is to do to go out onto the streets in protest . i think you streets in protest. i think you were talking to somebody this morning about this, what you said on breakfast. i was talking to luke, pulford, the human to luke, to pulford, the human rights campaigner. works with rights campaigner. he works with the parliamentary the international parliamentary alliance on china. on my show a little bit earlier, he was talking the particulars of talking about the particulars of how the chinese communist party may well respond to these protests and indeed what the british government should do as well. let's watch that. i think there are a number of things to take into account. obviously, the economic been the economic impact has been exceptionally difficult for many, many people in china's really hurt businesses. really hurt their businesses. it's meant that they can't go about their daily business, their bustling cities, their normal bustling cities, which of which are normally full of commerce, able to commerce, haven't been able to operate but there are operate as usual. but there are many other things besides that fascinating analysis coming through around world cup , through around the world cup, for got a lot of

for example, you've got a lot of people in china are looking people in china who are looking at crowds. many crowds in at those crowds. many crowds in qatar are all there qatar who are all there together, cheek by jowl, enjoying, enjoying the football . well, china's been so worried about this being broadcast throughout the country that they're censoring crowds, they're censoring crowds, they're making sure that nobody can actually see that there are people not wearing masks in the crowds in the world cup . and crowds in the world cup. and that has also added to the anger . so, there are many . so, look, there are many things all combining here. i think it's partly the lack of information that people within china have about other people's covid policies outside of china. that's anger people a lot . it's that's anger people a lot. it's the urumqi fire, which was, i mean, really terrible . the mean, really terrible. the reports are that they couldn't get out the doors get out because the doors themselves had been barricaded by the authorities as a part of the covid. the extremely restrictive covid measures . but restrictive covid measures. but yes, of course, it's the economy and people are going into their fourth year of this stuff. now in they've enough of in china. they've had enough of it. they've had it. absolutely. they've had enough harwood, enough of it. tom harwood, we've seen footage online. we're trying to get the source and the

verification of this, but it appears be a bbc c reporter appears to be a bbc c reporter ed lawrence being arrested by the police. the bbc, i think, have now made a statement. they have now made a statement. they have indeed. got the have indeed. i've got the statement here. this was an arrest place arrest that took place yesterday. and the british consulate got involved. the bbc said that they were extreme , said that they were extreme, really concerned about the treatment of the journalist at lawrence who was arrested and handcuffed while covering protests in shanghai. he was head held for several hours before being released. during his arrest , before being released. during his arrest, he was beaten and kicked by the police . this kicked by the police. this happened while he was working as an accredited journalist . the an accredited journalist. the bbc go on to say that it's very worrying that one of our journalists was attacked in this way carrying out his way whilst carrying out his duties. official duties. we have no official explanation or apology from the chinese authorities beyond a claim by the officials who later released him that they had arrested him for his own good in case he caught covid from the crowd. we do not consider this to be a credible explanation. they're the words of the bbc for

your own good. i want to see when, when, when. authoritarian regimes with draconian zero—covid policies talk about doing something for your own good. should all have our good. we should all have our ears prick up, tom. thank you so much. we will. we will, of course, let you know as as this situation evolves , people are situation evolves, people are making comparisons to tiananmen square. you might remember that those particularly chilling images and apparently it's that the techno nationalism of china , which is holding back some of their measures to broaden and to widen this covid debate out and to allow other people into advice on policy. anyway, tom, thank you. right off the bat, i'm going to introduce to my panel i'm going to introduce to my panel. i'm delighted. i'm going to be joined by rennie to be joined by dr. rennie handicap. going to be joined to be joined by dr. rennie ha 20 :ap. going to be joined to be joined by dr. rennie ha 20 books. going to be joined to be joined by dr. rennie ha 20 books. and ng to be joined to be joined by dr. rennie ha 20 books. and i'mo be joined to be joined by dr. rennie ha 20 books. and i'm professord by 20 books. and i'm professor eric kaufmann. don't forget eric kaufmann. and don't forget to our twitter poll. to vote in our twitter poll. we're after i'm we're asking you after i'm a celeb, will you forgive and forget matt hancock's handling of roughly of of the pandemic roughly 22% of you you will so you say that you will so far forgive and his actions.

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welcome back to tennis today. now let me introduce you to my panel this morning. very happy to say that i'm joined in the studio by nhs doctor dr. renee

hoon to come, celebrity chef and activist general, opinionated, strong woman. i like on this show is tonia buxton . i'm show is tonia buxton. i'm professor of politics at birkbeck college, university of london. eric kaufmann . and great london. eric kaufmann. and great to see you guys. now you've all got stories that have caught your eye morning already. your eye this morning already. what brought for me? what have you brought for me? pfizer ceo raps by regulator for making misleading statements about yeah, this is about children. yeah, this is absolutely huge. pam and i think it isn't getting enough coverage yet, but i think it will. i think there's more to come because the report's going to come but essentially last come out. but essentially last december 2020, december and december 2020, when the mooted for the vaccine was being mooted for children, people like children, lots of people like us were pushing back. pfizer guy albert went on tv and albert bourla went on tv and said , i don't want to quote him said, i don't want to quote him that there is no doubt in my mind that the benefit complete are in favour of vaccinating youngsters . 5 to 11 against youngsters. 5 to 11 against covid kids will have severe symptoms and there were many, many people saying there's no evidence for that. what are you doing? particularly ask for their molly kingsley, who has

fought and championed children. so she actually made a complaint to the regulator, the pharmaceutical watchdog, the prescription medicines code of practice . and they initially practice. and they initially ruled that not only were they misleading , ruled that not only were they misleading, but it ruled that not only were they misleading , but it was ruled that not only were they misleading, but it was bringing the industry into disrepute repute. and although they upheld pfizen repute. and although they upheld pfizer, have deep pockets. don't forget this. this is why it was so brave of us for them. and they appealed and some of the accusations were dismissed . but accusations were dismissed. but the regulator upheld that pfizer had misled the public on this and that they failed to present information in the factual and balanced way . now, polling on balanced way. now, polling on this is parents. balanced way. now, polling on this is parents . we're trying to this is parents. we're trying to give parents the right information , which is what we've information, which is what we've been to do . we've been been trying to do. we've been trying say this is the trying to say that this is the risk trying to say that this is the fisk your trying to say that this is the risk your child dying of risk of your child dying of covid or being seriously ill and actually the risk of actually, this is the risk of the vaccine. pfizer failed to do that they've told off that and they've been told off for this is absolutely for it. so this is absolutely

massive. and now parents need to be told before those kids have any more vaccine. yeah why is this not being talked about more tonia buxton, do think ? tonia buxton, do you think? because these are the kind of these the sort of smoking these are the sort of smoking gun moments that many of us have been as in the been looking for, as in the pursuit transparency . we just pursuit of transparency. we just want facts. all we've want the facts. that's all we've ever is nobody ever wanted. why is nobody except gb news talking except large gb news talking about but that the about it, but also that the language that, you know, we're accepting misleading. accepting that he is misleading. it out and out right lie it was an out and out right lie you lied. i wonder why they lied. oh, why? one time the lab set out because of camille. tell me off. but what is the reason that they push this drug onto our children when they did not needit our children when they did not need it and there is a strong element they could suffer side effects. it makes my blood boil. i can't speak about it without really getting so upset that this is being continued and it's brushed under the carpet by most of the mainstream media. shame on they're disgusting . it on them. they're disgusting. it must corruption. what's the must be corruption. what's the reason i remember it well. you and of course, will know the and i, of course, will know the time were talking

time when they were talking about fact the teenagers about the fact the teenagers would drug go into would need this drug to go into nightclubs. have teenagers nightclubs. we have teenagers and them live and we wanted them to live freely, but we have grave reservations about them taking a drug they patently didn't drug which they patently didn't need. why do you think need. and eric, why do you think this story not getting talked this story is not getting talked about well, i feel like about enough? well, i feel like just. yeah i mean, i do think there was a consensus around this. and i guess my issue is more i mean, i'm not super invested in this issue, but what i would say is whatever it is that we disagree on, there should open climate of should be an open climate of debate use evidence. debate where we use evidence. you it's a debate over you know, if it's a debate over whether prevents whether this prevents transmission we should transmission or not, we should have the data. have the numbers and the data. so i object to is a sort of so what i object to is a sort of cancel culture that won't allow for any side to air its its views based on data. so that that's sort of my big object to this, that might harm this, not that it might harm your child and that they might. oh, no, hopefully be damaged. but i don't but no, i want to say i don't needif but no, i want to say i don't need if that's right, i need if that's right, then i need if that's right, then i need to that and that's need to hear that and that's what saying. but if we can't what i'm saying. but if we can't even sing, but if we can't, even if we have the debate shut down right, then going to

right, then i'm not going to hear and that's what i'm hear that. and that's what i'm saying. is saying. yeah the prerequisite is to have open debate also to have the open debate and also at when pfizer appealed at the time when pfizer appealed this, what they said was, was the albert ball. comments at the albert ball. his comments at the albert ball. his comments at the based on the time were based on scientific weren't. scientific fact. they weren't. that lie . there was never that is a lie. there was never any data children , healthy any data that children, healthy children needed this vaccine even children needed this vaccine ever. yeah, of course . it was ever. yeah, of course. it was all a bit. it was all when i look back now and i try to remember, i mean, i can't believe that we're getting towards somebody just said, you know, it's few days till know, it's only a few days till 20, i was still processing 20, 23. i was still processing what happened in 2020. that's how feel. i'm still getting how i feel. i'm still getting over it. if you remember over it. but if you remember with when the joint committee on vaccines immunisations vaccines and immunisations were talking about whether they were going it for going to greenlight it for children, said, children, they initially said, didn't no didn't they? there is no benefit. going we're benefit. we're going to we're going to give this decision to the medical officers. yeah the chief medical officers. yeah and made the decision. they and they made the decision. they did. leant on. it took did. they were leant on. it took two weeks. jcb only said no. two weeks. the jcb only said no. there an outstanding there was an outstanding benefit for vaccine. for children for this vaccine. and within two weeks, and then within two weeks, with lots massive screaming lots of massive media screaming on the headlines online that children needed suddenly children needed it, suddenly the jcpoa, they said that they had failed account the

failed to take into account the social benefits of kids having these vaccine. when have we ever given someone a medication for social benefits which are spunous social benefits which are spurious yet that will set the mental health of the children because they might be less stressed if they have this drug. and absence from and also the absence from schools, failed to schools, what they failed to account many children to account is how many children to be from school. the side be absent from school. the side effects of vaccines. it was effects of the vaccines. it was just a complete hopefully just a complete mess. hopefully we're more of this, we're going to see more of this, more these explanations more of these explanations and more of these explanations and more being held more of these people being held to account. tanya schooling to account. tanya yes, schooling doctor no doctor nation is turning over no vaccine. tanya to rescue vaccine. tanya army to rescue strike nhs swat. okay so strike hit nhs swat. okay so let's get this into perspective. firstly thank the nurses should be getting more money. they get about be getting more money. they get abou t £35,000 a year and they do about £35,000 a year and they do about £35,000 a year and they do a great job. so they should be getting more money. but this is not the way to do it. the people that are going to save, to that are going in to save, to take over their are army take over their jobs are army cadets things like that. cadets and things like that. only amount of 35,000 cadets and things like that. onlyi amount of 35,000 cadets and things like that. onlyi met. amount of 35,000 cadets and things like that. onlyi met. so amount of 35,000 cadets and things like that. onlyi met. so that'sunt of 35,000 cadets and things like that. onlyi met. so that's that's 35,000 that i met. so that's that's nuts in itself . we can't have nuts in itself. we can't have our nurses strike . we are in our nurses strike. we are in we're in a situation because of

lockdown, not because of us and not because any of this other not because of any of this other rubbish, the green rubbish, because of the green levy because of lockdown. we levy and because of lockdown. we are a situation we are are in a situation that we are a country in crisis and we can't have our nurses striking. now the with the nhs is it the problem with the nhs is it has money . it has enough has enough money. it has enough money to pay those nurses a really good wage. but it's, you know, quarter of a million is going on. how many if they got 2100 managers and all 2100 diversity managers and all these middle men that don't actually work on the ground, 50, 50% of the nhs. how much is happening? the nhs money goes to people that don't actually work in medicine. now we need money and i've decided. you're welcome to join us if you like that. but we won't be at all. we want the job too, to break it out and restructure the nhs in a sensible way. so nurses do get the wages that they deserve, but they're not going to get it through. striking, i don't agree with that what we need, with this is that what we need, renee? think what renee? i don't think that what we is you. so, yes, think we need is you. so, yes, i think we need is you. so, yes, i think we probably. you're there. we probably. but you're there. you're the front line every you're at the front line every day. need restructuring. it

day. you need restructuring. it completely needs it needs dismantling. been dismantling. and we've been rebuilt bottom up, not rebuilt from the bottom up, not the top down. yeah, that's what it eric, what are it needs. yeah. eric, what are your thoughts? well, i it your thoughts? well, i mean, it is remarkable that the nhs is remarkable that that the nhs for years had these for so many years has had these issues we haven't sort of issues and we haven't sort of seen very analysis how seen a very system analysis how to it. you know, the to restructure it. you know, the fact you were mentioning earlier that different systems that there are different systems on floor , a single on each floor, not a single procurement all procurement hub. you know, all of problems you would have of these problems you would have thought there's thought by now, because there's such it's the major such an interest, it's the major costs are in the economy costs that are in the economy that they would have tried to sort in a better way. so sort this in a better way. so yeah, think clearly some kind yeah, i think clearly some kind of inquiry needed. of an inquiry is needed. i wonder it would go down wonder how it would go down there medical staff if there with the medical staff if there with the medical staff if the are brought to in plug the army are brought to in plug the army are brought to in plug the they're on a the gaps whilst they're on a strike. does look strike. what does that look like? yeah, mean it like? eric yeah, i mean it doesn't look good i suppose in the of of the sense of sort of strikebreakers, if you like. so, and i don't, i don't know, it could perhaps could it get ugly? i what have i don't know what problems have been together in been rising together in hospitals. the army hospitals. we have the army working alongside us all the time. for example, time. so, for example, when i did vascular surgery, one of the registrar was an army doctor because placements all

because they do placements all of long term of the time, long term placement. we do have it placement. so we do have it right. unused to that. and they wear oh i wear a uniform, a really. oh i did not that . okay, why did not know that. okay, so why so wonder why this is being so i wonder why this is being kind of made out into the press to be something more than it would be. military personnel called upon the plans to cope with actually think with war. i actually think there's a really big pr thing going number ten at the going for on number ten at the moment make the nhs look like moment to make the nhs look like it die tomorrow. right? it might die tomorrow. right? that's i story yesterday that's what i story yesterday about ways from about a&e. 12 hour ways from that scene . that actually a that scene. that was actually a story september yes. so as story from september. yes. so as soon as i saw that, actually, my wife that out to i wife pointed that out to me, i thought, oh, so there's pr thought, oh, so there's a pr effort on to just effort going on here to just make look like. so we have make it look like. so we have every then have every every year then we have every yean every year then we have every year, days to save the year, seven days to save the nhs. i remember hearing black eye, the it the eye, it was the same. it was the same thing. had a constant. same thing. we had a constant. it's unrelenting , nhs it's unrelenting, the nhs is broken. every bailout. broken. it needs every bailout. we're having same we're having the same conversation. you conversation. nation do you think inevitably heading think we just inevitably heading you just to have a privatised system now? i don't system now? because i don't think want that, but think many people want that, but something done. it something has got to be done. it has be done. it breaks my

has to be done. it breaks my heart the nhs was this heart because the nhs was this holy and unfortunately holy grail and unfortunately it's language it's stayed having the language around a holy grail. don't around it as a holy grail. don't say anything about the nhs, say anything bad about the nhs, they're godlike there and they're all godlike there and that carried on that language carried whilst it was clearly carried on whilst it was clearly broken and there's lot of broken and there's a lot of dodgy going on in nhs, dodgy stuff going on in the nhs, lots of going to lots of money going to pharmacies. does the nhs pay pharmacies. why does the nhs pay more for pharmaceuticals than any country in europe? any other country in europe? yeah, it's like you said when yeah, so it's like you said when i earlier that it's like i said earlier that it's like putting wedding in front of it. if you put nhs front of it, if you put nhs in front of it, you if you put nhs in front of it, you pay if you put nhs in front of it, you pay more if you're waiting in photographers. yeah in front of photographers. yeah it's ten grand more. yeah. that's happened. okay. that's what's happened. okay. right school right eric? school indoctrination is turning. british this is an british youth woke this is an article written by youth . so? so article written by youth. so? so sorry to sort of beat my own drum here, but yeah, this came out in the telegraph. and really what this comes out of is a survey, a set of surveys that i did with policy exchange, which sort of reveal the extent of the indoctrination. that's occurring indoctrination. that's occurring in british schools. and i don't think the public really understand a major charity, understand that a major charity, this isn't just a few schools here and there. this is a

majority of schoolchildren who are being taught critical are being taught these critical race and gender theory concepts like white privilege , systemic like white privilege, systemic racism, patriarchy and so forth. it's sort of three quarters of the 18 to 20 year olds. we asked them to reflect on what they were taught at school and which which of these concepts they'd heard. so not only were three quarters taught things, quarters taught these things, but were taught them but 70% of them were taught them as truth. that is that there aren't respectable counterarguments to this. so, i mean, massive mean, this is absolutely massive now of the beliefs. now in terms of the beliefs. well you can few. one is, well you can take a few. one is, should j.k. rowling be dropped by her publisher? 18 to 23, they're split this. right. they're split on this. right. whereas , it's whereas the over fifties, it's 85. she shouldn't be 85. no, she shouldn't be dropped. only 5. she should or should. should churchill statue be removed from parliament square? same numbers. the young people are split with half, you know, half of them as many of them he should be removed them saying he should be removed as as remain. whereas the over 50 massively in favour like 50 it's massively in favour like 85. that's what we're what 85. so that's what we're what we're getting through the schools system no one's schools system and no one's doing anything about it. well, schools system and no one's

doir see 1ything about it. well, schools system and no one's doir see teenagers)ut it. well, schools system and no one's doir see teenagers justt. well, schools system and no one's doir see teenagers just playing you see teenagers just playing devil's advocate. teenagers have always susceptible to always been susceptible to looking to what their peers are doing. and going along with it. right. so how is this any different , tony, do you think? different, tony, do you think? well, unfortunately, those that disagree indoctrination disagree with the indoctrination that kids are getting at that these kids are getting at school keep i know school just keep quiet. i know that when this kind of gender discussions in schools and things like that, my younger son is open to be influenced by is more open to be influenced by this. and we have to undo all that, deprogram all of that rubbish that goes on at school. my rubbish that goes on at school. my eldest son pops in his ipods in ears and just doesn't in his ears and just doesn't engage because it's he said, as i said, why don't you speak out? why say something? why don't you say something? it's it's just not it's because they it's just not worth and that's the worth it. and that's the difference, when difference, i think. so when i was school , difference, i think. so when i was school, i was in the was at school, i was in the debating society. and i remember vividly i had to argue for the national front's manifesto, which me, it which is, you know, for me, it was really, really hard. did was really, really hard. i did it a passion . i don't it with a passion. i don't think they would don't think they would now. i don't think they'd have that of they'd even have that kind of challenge, i don't think challenge, and i don't think they'd feel able, because i think they're too worried about

what the right thing to say, what is the right thing to say, what is the right thing to say, what they should say is they should give children the opportunity to challenge ideas. and the only way you challenge them is by discussing them . them is by discussing them. where does it come from, though? where does it come from, though? where it. so these have where it. so these ideas have been germinating in academia since the seventies and eighties . can see even if you . and you can see even if you track academic journal article abstracts and then suddenly the media picked up on this in the mid 20 tens. so yeah, this ideology which cultural ideology which i call cultural socialism, that if socialism, which says that if you harm even emotionally someone from a disadvantaged group by offending them , that is group by offending them, that is a graver sin than not telling the truth or suppressing free speech. so what people do is they suppress truth and free speech in order not to offend. thatis speech in order not to offend. that is the ethos that's being pushed on social media and the schools are reflecting that. that's safe and easy. is it fair to say that most of the ills that are in our academia now basically started with tony blair? realising blair? that's what i'm realising that sowed the seeds whilst that he sowed the seeds whilst in office and we are seeing the

trees grow from those particular ideologies , which all seemed the ideologies, which all seemed the idea of political correctness in and of itself when he started was, it's about language was, okay, it's about language reflecting. sure it was okay. i'm not sure reality had changed. and so if, if you've got a chair, if a of a meeting is not a man, maybe you just call them the chair rather than the chair. man it's about language evolving to just reflect our reality. i don't think anything be think was anything to be frightened at stage, but frightened of at that stage, but i certainly morphed i think it certainly morphed into a bit more into something a bit more pernicious now because of the silencing that silencing aspect that comes along don't know. along with it. i don't know. i would say you you to have would say you you have to have some sensitivity, but it's like a dial, right? you can have it at level five. but what's to prevent going? seven, prevent it going? six, seven, eight? is the problem eight? and this is the problem with correctness with political correctness is it did any guardrails. so did not have any guardrails. so i think these problems i actually think these problems stem. before blair they you stem. well before blair they you know us these trends are know in the us these trends are all worse than are here. all worse than they are here. yeah what's worse is blair yeah okay. what's worse is blair is there pruning his is still there now, pruning his trees, the strings. trees, pulling the strings. yeah, from yeah, absolutely. from behind the okay. thanks, the scenes. right. okay. thanks, guys. tanya rennie. tanya and eric, be after the eric, we'll be back after the break. just a moment, we're

break. in just a moment, we're going conservative going to hear from conservative mp miriam on how children mp miriam cates on how children should protected online should be protected online through the online safety bill. it's be back in it's good to be back in parliament next monday. that's coming up after your news. good morning. it's 10:33 coming up after your news. good morning. it's10:33 a.m. racy bytes keeping you up to date. over 50 conservative mps have urged the prime minister to change modern slavery laws in a bid address the channel migrant crisis . the group, bid address the channel migrant crisis. the group, including former cabinet ministers, say migrants they believe are bogus asylum seekers claim to be victims of trafficking , can't victims of trafficking, can't object to being returned to their home country and parties, including sir graham brady and esther mcvey. the amendments would be a strong deterrent for those to make the those looking to make the journey in china. authorities have put up barriers around parts of shanghai after hundreds of people protested against strict covid restrictions . ten strict covid restrictions. ten people were killed in a tower block fire over the weekend. that sparked civil unrest in the caphal that sparked civil unrest in the capital, beijing, shanghai and wuhan . demonstrators claim that

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gb news. good morning. welcome back to bev turner. today you've been getting in touch with me. thank you. views at gbnews.uk. rob has said what a shame that the army doesn't a union. doesn't have a union. once again, the military personnel are abused to are being misused and abused to break by workers who break strikes by workers who earn far more than them in basic pay, earn far more than them in basic pay, just like the firemen strike scandalous . this pay, just like the firemen strike scandalous. this is in relation conversation we relation to the conversation we were having about nhs were just having about the nhs possibly bringing in the army to plug possibly bringing in the army to plug some of the gaps. if our nurses strike. and clive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid strike. and clive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid tonystrike. and clive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid tony isike. and clive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid tony is so. and clive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid tony is so correct.ive plug some of the gaps. if our nurssaid tony is so correct in; has said tony is so correct in what she said . it's driven what she said. it's all driven by in this government is by money in this government is compliant complicit in compliant and complicit in giving all money away. it feels similar says to the similar, says clive, to the migrant issue . read to said. migrant issue. read to said. matt hancock didn't handle the pandemic on his own. we've got a

twitter poll running about the fact hancock made it fact that matt hancock made it to the final to the final three of i'm a celebrity. what does that about the public? that tell us about the public? i want to know whether you will forgive matt hancock didn't forgive him. matt hancock didn't handle own, handle the pandemic on his own, says was part of says rich. he was part of a government by minister government led by prime minister bofis government led by prime minister boris johnson as well, and government led by prime minister bori continually as well, and government led by prime minister bori continually stated/ell, and government led by prime minister bori continually stated the and was continually stated the government following the government was following the science. there were a number of scientific presentations at the daily briefings and de has said the matt hancock haters need to move on he's human. he will make mistakes . he move on he's human. he will make mistakes. he did nothing to harm anyone intentionally. let me know what you think jb views at gb news dot uk now the divisive online safety bill will be back in parliament next monday . it's in parliament next monday. it's been bubbling along for a while, hasn't it, with making amendments to it. miriam case, the conservative mp for penistone and stocksbridge, brought up the issues the harms of online to children in the house of commons earlier this month i had a chat with miriam before the show to get her thoughts on the importance of

the bill to protect children . the bill to protect children. miriam, you made very impassioned speech in the house of commons about the online safety harms bill. why do you feel so strongly about it? well i think we rightly pay a paying increasing attention to , you increasing attention to, you know, the dangers that children perhaps face online and with smart phones. every child has a smartphone now and there'll be some high profile , tragic cases some high profile, tragic cases like the case of molly russell that have started to raise pubuc that have started to raise public awareness of this . but public awareness of this. but actually, we're only scratching the surface and we're talking about serious issues like self—harm and online bullying. actually, underneath all this is this incredible epidemic of onune. this incredible epidemic of online . i'm just to kind of put online. i'm just to kind of put it in perspective, in 2020, sites received more views and twitter , pinterest, instagram , twitter, pinterest, instagram, zoom, put together . and i think zoom, put together. and i think in 2019, pornhub had 42 billion separate views . this is in 2019, pornhub had 42 billion separate views. this is an absolute academic and about half of 11 year olds we think have

seen. and so, you know, once you get older than, that, of course, it's most children. and i think the other thing to say is, as well as it being the kind of that that children are seeing is not what might have seen you not what we might have seen you when were up in when we were growing up in a dodgy or something like dodgy magazine or something like this. abusive this. this is hardcore, abusive violence, really horrendous, disgusting stuff that, you know, most adults would be absolutely outraged to think that children have free and easy access to this. and it is free and easy. it's almost entirely unregulated at the moment. and that's why we need the online safety bill. so what protect agents are there at the moment online? almost none. i so there are there's i mean, so there are there's that's provided by dedicated sites that make money out of and in theory, children shouldn't be able to view those. but we all know that they can. but also, there's a lot of use of to use a generated that's either create it sadly by children or or shared by children, often against their will and their better judgement through, you know, platforms that we all use all the time. whatsapp and

discord and tik tok and it's just available to view and to be seen by children and you know, people who say, oh, well it's a parent's job to protect their children. they're not living the real world. entirely real world. it's entirely unregulated. even if your unregulated. and even if your child has no phone, no computer, no internet access takes nothing for set , sat next to for the child, set, sat next to them in the classroom to just show old image. there show them any old image. there are concerns, aren't are lots of concerns, aren't there, online safety there, that the online safety bill too far come bill will go too far and come people's free items? is that the case? well i think it's about seeing children as children . we seeing children as children. we don't let them buy alcohol. we don't let them buy alcohol. we don't let them buy alcohol. we don't let them buy cigarettes. you we say to adults, you you know, we say to adults, you know, you are to, free do what is legal. up to a point, you know, are limits on all know, there are limits on all freedoms and there be. freedoms and there should be. but these children . and i but these are children. and i think really to think it's really hard to understand depth of understand that the depth of harms being caused here harms that are being caused here because, know, children are because, you know, children are impressionable. of course, they are when they're are particularly when they're going through puberty and they're, ideas they're, you know, what ideas they're, you know, what ideas they about sex and puberty they get about sex and puberty are to stay with them are going to stay with them for the their life. and if the rest of their life. and if the rest of their life. and if the vast majority of the images

they are seeing are of women being violently abused, which i'm is most this, i'm afraid is most of this, there a separate there isn't even a separate category pornhub category on pornhub for strangulation. it's so strangulation. now it's so mainstream. so we are seeing girls being during sex. technically nanny with windpipe damage, you know , this is really damage, you know, this is really extreme behaviour and yet it's being normalised and we're now seeing about a third of child sexual abuse is actually child on child sexual abuse. so the idea that it's happening, no impact on society, that it's a private matter for adults is just completely untrue. and just as we protect children from drugs and alcohol, we have to protect them from. so how does the online safety bill intend to do that? well, several ways. i think it's really good news that it is coming back to the house. i understand that some of the difficult issues around legal but harmful that could have impacted on free speech have been sorted mean, been sorted out. i mean, i haven't it yet, but that's haven't seen it yet, but that's my so think my understanding. so i think that it will pass that will mean it will pass through the house easier. but so maybe so for any site that is a dedicated site, they will have a duty enforce age

duty to enforce proper age verification. i think there are some amendments that should be brought of lords to brought in the house of lords to make that clearer and stronger , make that clearer and stronger, to make that it isn't a to make sure that it isn't a tick box. but there are genuine, foolproof technological ways of doing that . but it also will put doing that. but it also will put a duty on on providers, on platforms to take down material, on platforms that children use. i don't think is strong enough yet. i think we need it needs some work and we also need to equally ease what's legal on and off line. so at the moment, apparently dvds do still exist, but the rules for what's legal on that is very, very strict. there's lots and lots of activity that is illegal. but those those activities are legal in online poll. so we need to we need to equalise online and offline. there are concerns, of course, go down this course, that if we go down this route a digital id system , route of a digital id system, that it does compromise everybody's civil liberties. do you worry that. i am concerned about civil liberties in a more general sense. and i think, you know, the way we saw covid, how easy and quick it was for the

government to regulate almost every way, every area of our lives in a way that wasn't evidence based or it didn't go through democratic scrutiny was very concerning, but think we need to separate that from this issue because the online safety bill has been through an enormous amount of democratic scrutiny and has changed a lot as a result. and i think it's a bit like saying, you know, with the opiate trade, you know, a few hundred ago, we few hundred years ago, we shouldn't regulate shouldn't we shouldn't regulate it matter of it because it's a matter of personal everything personal freedom. everything has limits. and that includes personal freedom. when personal freedom. and when something harming children something is harming children and harming society as much as is . i and harming society as much as is. i mean, you know, not to mention that the high profile rapes and murders that have been committed just in recent years by men who are addicted to hardcore, we can't stand up and say is just freedom say this is just a freedom issue. it it's actually issue. it isn't. it's actually a pubuc issue. it isn't. it's actually a public health issue. think public health issue. and i think alongside online safety alongside the online safety bill, need some proper bill, we do need some proper research building research and we'll be building legislation research legislation on proper research and democratic scrutiny that will sure civil will make sure that civil liberties are appropriately respected also protecting respected while also protecting people that desperately need

people that we desperately need to protect. i can't help feeling that missed the boat here , that we missed the boat here, miriam, didn't at what stage miriam, didn't we? at what stage do you think somebody , the do you think somebody, the government or regulator should have stepped in and said this internet thing is going to cause more harm than good? well, the short answer is money. i mean, look how powerful the tech companies are, how much money they it's not in their interests for this kind of regulation. they could stop this children viewing right now today if they wanted to. but they won't. and that's why, unfortunately , we've that's why, unfortunately, we've got to have go down the legislative route. know, legislative route. you know, it's true government it's also true the government has missed the boat on this. and i it in our 15 i think it was in our 15 conservative that conservative manifesto that we promised do something about promised to do something about this. started bring some this. and started to bring some legislation forward . it didn't legislation forward. it didn't become act. the online safety become an act. the online safety bill has been going on a long time, but think fundamentally time, but i think fundamentally we boat. on we missed the boat. on regulating industry regulating the tech industry when they when we decided that they weren't and therefore weren't publishers and therefore they weren't responsible the they weren't responsible for the content on content that's published on their know, their platforms. but you know, we back and we've got we can't go back and we've got to and know, as

to forward and you know, as problematic this bill has problematic as this bill has been , i do think it's a once in been, i do think it's a once in a generation opportunity to put to children when to protect children when we've got it. you've been got to support it. you've been making public case making a very good public case for online safety bill, for the online safety bill, but do you supported by do you feel supported by government? who else is getting behind very and behind it? yes very much. and i think michelle donlin, who's the new dcms secretary, so she's responsible for pushing this through. she's got to grips with this quickly. she's this very quickly. she's understood the difficulties around of the free speech around some of the free speech elements on so elements and worked on those. so i will have, you know, i think it will have, you know, very, conservative very, very strong conservative support commons on support both in the commons on the which is great. the lords, which is great. i'm pretty sure it's got cross—party support to. but the one further thing the government needs thing that the government needs to do is to do this proper piece of research to the society of research to be the society wide harms so that when we're wide harms of so that when we're writing the secondary legislation, detail, legislation, the detail, we really what we're dealing really know what we're dealing with to manage it. with and how to manage it. you've been looking you've obviously been looking at these sad stories, these really sad stories, particularly if the sexual abuse child on child crimes did the families of those children and

the parents, they know what's going on. does it come as a terrible shock to them? yes, i think it does, because i think anybody kind of 35, under 30 didn't grow up. we didn't grow up with the internet with all this information and these images and these videos at the touch of a button. so it's quite hard for people all hard for people of all generation appreciate the generation to appreciate the impact. and also that is the privacy, isn't it? you know, when we kids, our parents when we were kids, our parents basically what we were basically knew what we were doing. we might be able to sneak off do behind their back or, off and do behind their back or, you know, might to you know, we might be able to break if ran your break down if we ran your friend, in the hallway, you friend, you in the hallway, you know, understand, know, they could understand, hear everything you say, and there's children now, you know, influences are way influences on them are way beyond so, beyond parental control. and so, yes, course, just yes, of course, parents just just understand just really don't understand what's and i think just really don't understand whejust and i think just really don't understand whejust shockingand i think just really don't understand whejust shocking. do i think just really don't understand whejust shocking. do youink just really don't understand whejust shocking. do you think it's just shocking. do you think that phone companies should that the phone companies should actually handset actually sell the handset with the tech already on the security tech already on board? absolutely. and the latest apple devices , the latest latest apple devices, the latest update, they do have this in—built mechanism that can recognise , i think, nude images

recognise, i think, nude images and, you know, in typical apple style, it then gives the choice to a child of whether they want to a child of whether they want to view it or not, which is a bit ridiculous, but it shows that the tech is possible. so why can't all devices in the hardware have an ability to switch on a parental control, which identify potentially which i identify as potentially images? it doesn't images? and basically it doesn't allow appear the allow them to appear on the phone then you're not phone and then you're not reliant whatsapp and other reliant on whatsapp and other encrypted technologies from trying to find these images and remove them. they're just a child a season. in the first child of a season. in the first place. so again, this is a solution that tech companies could implement they could implement now, but they won't. that's we need won't. and so that's we need to legislate. any legislate. is there any incentive here for phone incentive here for the phone companies this? well, companies to do this? well, i just only legislation just think only legislation and the to be fined. the potential to be fined. i mean , i personally would go one mean, i personally would go one step further and make directors individually criminally liable. so let's say there's an accidental on the building site and it turns out that the manager, the site manager was negligent. they could be put in prison if it's criminal negligence, why can't it be the case that if a child views her views a video of a rape, let's

say because a director has been negligent in allowing that on the platform, why shouldn't they be criminalised? but i don't think we're going to get that far in this iteration of it. online safety bill but i think it's something to look at for future. so your opinion, future. so in your opinion, miriam, the online miriam, does the online safety bill enough? i think it's bill go far enough? i think it's a start. think a brilliant start. i think there's of firstly there's amendments of firstly equalising , offline, equalising online, offline, making sure that on on social media platforms is treated the same as on sites, making sure that it's the age verification is implemented quickly. so these are all amendments that could be brought in. the lords and i very much government much would hope have government support. yes , that's the support. so yes, if that's the case, think it's a really case, yes, i think it's a really good start. but we also need this big piece of government led research into what are wider research into what are the wider harms isn't just the harms because it isn't just the children, know, it men children, you know, it is men who unfortunately addicted. who unfortunately are addicted. i'm by the i'm being drawn by the algorithms the of sites algorithms of the of the sites into more and more hardcore extreme material. i'm ending up looking at child sexual abuse material , looking at child sexual abuse material, you looking at child sexual abuse material , you know, normal guys material, you know, normal guys who think they're watching

mainstream ending up as criminals. and that's happening and more. and yes, of course, people have take responsibility for their actions, we also for their actions, but we also need recognise the evil need to recognise the evil in these sites is drawing them these sites that is drawing them towards don't know about towards them. i don't know about you i'm just you, miriam, but i'm just wondering there too many wondering whether there too many men these decisions who men making these decisions who don't actually know how hard it is, parents to monitor what is, as a parents to monitor what your are seeing online your children are seeing online . do you think that's fair? that might be true, although, you know, with some know, i do work with some excellent male colleagues who do understand. think it is understand. but i think it is just for men to talk just harder for men to talk about this and for all sorts of reasons. i mean, you know, there's the obvious thing, which is far more men watch than women. you've got know women. so you've got to know what can away house by what you can take away house by house. but think also it's house. but but i think also it's you know, as a woman understanding the kind of deep misogyny of pretty much all, you know, gives you a bit of fire in your belly that i don't want my daughters to be treated like this. i don't want my sons to think this is normal because this just terrible boys this is just terrible for boys and i think it's

and girls. and i think it's probably at the moment easier for women to talk about it. but i you know, we can get i think, you know, if we can get more public profile this more public profile around this issue, find more issue, i think we'll find more men up. so just me men speaking up. so just help me understand with the age understand it with the age verification software, how many details would you have give? details would you have to give? would give your would you have to give your credit your name, your credit card, your name, your address that's we address maybe that's where we have balance, you know, have to balance, you know, preferences for privacy with the societal harms that are going on here. and i think for too long we've seen as a private matter. and perhaps it once was. but if you look at the kinds of that are now mainstream , you know, are now mainstream, you know, somebody might be sitting at home in their own private room viewing , these images. but it is viewing, these images. but it is having an impact on how they view women, how they treat women, what they think of as is normal is having an impact on the whole of culture and whole of society. that's very negative. so is it actually a private matter or should it be seen as a as a society, as a pubuc seen as a as a society, as a public health issue, in which case we've got to balance these rights? but as i said, i think

there are ways of age verification without revealing identity and that but the tech industry can do that already. it just needs to be enforced . so just needs to be enforced. so that was miriam cates, conservative mp there now in the studio watching this with me is executive director of open rights group jim killick. tim wright this bill has been going on for about four years. it has had numerous iterations . had numerous iterations. obviously, the area of concern for miriam is more the and children and you see other aspects of this bill as being problematic. but first of all, what is your broad take on some of the arguments that miriam was making? there are all incredibly sensible and might protect children . i think the issue here children. i think the issue here is how you do it. it's not a question of should children be protected ? i think she's protected? i think she's a little bit over estimating how much you can do with technology . i mean, you remember the whole business around torrenting and

people downloading movies and films, you know, sort of five or ten years ago and it was claimed that it could all be stopped with technology that, you know, there were ways to do that . and there were ways to do that. and that just was always false. and what actually changed that was was market solutions. it was things like netflix coming along . the problem here is this isn't a problem that can be solved in that way because you can't just say, well, let's remove the bad behaviour giving people easy behaviour by giving people easy supply because the problem here is that some people who are under 18 want to see something and, we want to stop them. and the problem there is if people want see something, no matter want to see something, no matter how they will find ways. how young they will find ways. and so relying on the technology to do that is unlikely to work and if you want to know how effective it is going to be, just think about how difficult it has been to stop people having under age, how hard having sex under age, how hard it is to stop teenage drinking. how hard is that? that's to stop teenagers taking drugs. it isn't

something you can address through the technology you have to do it through talking those young adults and children and helping them understand the risks that they're potentially. is that not sound a bit like a cop out? no it's just to say you can't do it through technology . can't do it through technology. you must use a range of measures. and it's not to say that technology has no role. it's just to say that imagining that it it's just to say that imagining thatitis it's just to say that imagining that it is the answer is just naive and you have to then kind of ask yourself the costs of that. and that's exactly where we're at with this bill, because the bill's talking about age, verifying anything which might have put on, which means that to use google search , right? just use google search, right? just google search because adult material is accessible all through google search. if you want unfiltered results will have to go through age verification. that's the implication of this bill. and the same will go for reddit signal, go for twitter. and i would just suggest that having filtered content on google search or twitter and only being

able to access it without all that material being removed through age, verification is a pretty pretty steep cost for something which is probably heart posing very little risk to children actually. what is that cost then , jim? well, for cost then, jim? well, for a start, you actually have to go through that process, right? you know every adult has to prove their despite the fact they were an adult. and then secondly , the an adult. and then secondly, the technologies that do that can be intrusive . and again, intrusive. and again, i appreciate what miriam was saying about, you know, there are ways to do this, which don't which aren't intrusive. but the bill doesn't speak to any of that. it doesn't explain that any of that would be required or that there would be requirements to make sure that privacy is protected and isn't that isn't a mistake. they just to ignore it. they they've known this was a problem. it was a problem with the digital economy act. and they have refused to do anything to sort this out . so let us to sort this out. so let us understand this . in a real world understand this. in a real world scenario , what if this online

scenario, what if this online harms bill is passed in its current stage? what does that mean to the average internet user ? it means that you get user? it means that you get a kind of child friendly environment where anything that is remotely risky in the view of the minister's can't be accessed until you've proved your age. and would you have to do that? every log in do think? or is it just something like, you know, how do you do you google remember your details? well, they remember the details they just remember the details on device. i imagine on that device. i imagine that you basically you would end up basically having in to everything having to log in to everything and to prove your age and and then to prove your age and then of knows that. so then it kind of knows that. so you it means you have you know, it means you have everything more logged in as well, less sites can be just browsed seen. to browsed or seen. you have to kind of accounts and that kind of have accounts and that means those websites means that those websites are also much also then probably tracking much more by you because you are logged in as a user so the privacy cost is actually pretty high because suddenly all these sites know vastly more about you than they did before . and why is than they did before. and why is that dangerous? well it's always

dangerous companies know dangerous when companies know more and more about because more and more about you, because that information could be used and and you see that in and sold. and you see that in the states the moment. you the states at the moment. you know, you if you go to the know, if you if you go to the states, try to apply for insurance, they allowed to insurance, they are allowed to and your internet and actually check your internet history you're, you history. and if you're, you know, browsing gambling sites or , you know, maybe kind of clearly i'll smoking and that doesn't accord with what's gone into the insurance thing or they just think you know you basically you look under educate id because of the sites that you visit can get you visit you know, you can get you can penalised for can get penalised for your health insurance or car insurance or whatever to insurance or whatever happens to be. course the government be. and of course the government is that way data is moving that way in data protection law, trying to loosen up of controls. so up those sorts of controls. so more that of business more of that kind of business model be introduced here. so model can be introduced here. so do concerns about the do you have concerns about the bill in this current form and what you think can be done what do you think can be done about? well, i mean, bluntly, it needs a rethink. you know, needs a rethink. any you know, we kind of just start we need to kind of just start again and say, right, let's think what proper think about how what proper processes moving illegal processes for moving illegal material sure material are. let's make sure that and to that there appeals and ways to get the courts so that courts

get to the courts so that courts can judge is right, wrong, can judge what is right, wrong, rather the companies . rather than just the companies. you know, do not trust mark you know, i do not trust mark zuckerberg or elon musk with my free speech boundaries . you free speech boundaries. you know, they can be they totally random people. sometimes i want courts to decide that. okay thank you so much. it's great to hear both sides of that debate and both very persuasive. jim killick, that executive director of open group , right? of open rights group, right? thatis of open rights group, right? that is it. is he already 11:00? that is it. is he already 11:00? that first hour went very quickly, didn't it? i'm going to be back with lots more after a short .

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hello. very warm welcome. thank you forjoining bev hello. very warm welcome. thank you for joining bev turner today on gb news news. we've got lots to look at before midday, matt hancock leaving i'm a celebrity in third place. not in disgrace . do you think he was or was he not? you know what i think about this. we've a twitter poll this. we've got a twitter poll running it. we've got a running on it. we've also got a british museum closing british museum that's closing its doors after 50 years over fears that it is perpetuating racist and ableist racist, sexist and ableist theories. and as always , i'll be theories. and as always, i'll be joined by my fantastic panel talking about the day's top stories. that's coming up after a look at the latest news with rosie . a very good morning to rosie. a very good morning to you . it's 11:01 rosie. a very good morning to you . it's11:01 on bracey bryant you. it's11:01 on bracey bryant keeping you up to date . more keeping you up to date. more than 50 conservative employees have signed a letter urging the prime minister to change modern slavery laws to ease the migrant crisis . the group, slavery laws to ease the migrant crisis. the group, including former cabinet ministers, says migrants they believe are bogus asylum seekers who claims to be the victim of trafficking can't then object to being returned to their home country. mp including

their home country. mp including the graham brady and esther mcvey, say the amendments would be a strong deterrent for those thinking of crossing the channel the says there's not the government says there's not one single resolve the one single policy to resolve the migrant but it use migrant crisis, but it would use every tool at its disposal . in every tool at its disposal. in china, authorities have put up barriers around parts of shanghaias barriers around parts of shanghai as hundreds of people continue to protest overnight against strict covid restrictions. ten people were killed in a tower block fire over the weekend that sparked civil unrest in major cities. demonstrators claim that coronavirus measures may hindered people's escape from the fire . they're calling for the fire. they're calling for the fire. they're calling for the president to resign . there's the president to resign. there's a huge police presence in some major cities. many people have been detained. the human rights luke pulford told gb news the protesters will continue until their demands are heard. there are many things we're combining here. i think it's partly the of information that people within china have about other people's covid policies outside of china. that's anger people a lot. it's the urumqi fire , which was,

the urumqi fire, which was, i mean, really terrible . the mean, really terrible. the reports are that they couldn't get out because the doors themselves had been barricaded by the authorities as a part of the covid. the extremely restrictive covid measures . but restrictive covid measures. but yes, of course, it's the economy and people are going into their fourth year of this stuff. now in they've enough of it . in they've had enough of it. amid the in shanghai a bbc amid the chaos in shanghai a bbc journalist was arrested which the foreign secretary described as deeply disturbing . i spoke as deeply disturbing. i spoke very good kung fu the now moments before at lawrence was handcuffed by police. the bbc says he was beaten, kicked and held for several hours before being released . broadcaster says being released. broadcaster says the chinese authorities claim they arrested him for his own goodin they arrested him for his own good in case he caught covid from the crowd . armed forces from the crowd. armed forces could stand in for hospital staff as part of emergency plans to deal with possible strikes over the winter. health officials are drawing up contingencies to cover workers as ambulance drivers and paramedics consider joining nurses in the upcoming walkouts

. the government says it's working on range of options working on a range of options with to manage with the nhs to manage disruption industrial disruption during industrial action . three people have been action. three people have been arrested after two babies were found dead in a home in bridgend in south wales on saturday. two men, aged 37 and 47 and a 29 year old women have been arrested on suspicion of concealing the birth of a child. they remain in police custody . they remain in police custody. an investigation is ongoing and police are appealing anyone with information come forward . the information to come forward. the government's launching a £1 billion scheme to make middle income homes more energy efficient . hundreds of thousands efficient. hundreds of thousands of homes could receive loft and cavity wall insulation three years from spring. it's mostly being targeted at households that do not currently get support upgrade their homes. support to upgrade their homes. with fifth of funding being with a fifth of funding being targeted vulnerable, targeted at the most vulnerable, the secretary grant the business secretary grant shapps, told us measures shapps, told us the measures were households reduce were to help households reduce energy . £10 billion, energy consumption. £10 billion, which is in addition to a lot more money that's being provided previously. is to allow anyone in any kind of housing to be

private rent. it could be their own home to be social housing. to so improve the property , in to so improve the property, in order to make sure that it needs those higher standards and that will save people quite a lot of money . the shadow business money. the shadow business secretary , jonathan reynolds, secretary, jonathan reynolds, told gb news labour wants to insulate 19 million homes as soon as possible, although he welcomes the government's pledge . he says the plans aren't ambitious enough. it's about ten years too late. i mean, this should have been a quick early win government reducing win for. the government reducing people's and doing people's fuel bills and doing the right thing by the environment. mean, it's win environment. i mean, it's a win win taken so long? win. why has it taken so long? this government have neither the ambition direction . of ambition or the direction. of course when come course i welcome when they come a bit onto our territory, a little bit onto our territory, whether a windfall tax or whether it's a windfall tax or greater energy efficiency ambition. they've got ambition. but they've got nowhere near the comprehensive programme . they to get this programme. they need to get this country the right. matt country onto the right. matt hancock is finished third on i'm a celebrity, get me out here a celebrity, get me out of here with retired england with the retired england footballer being footballer jill scott being crowned the jungle, the crowned queen of the jungle, the former health secretary one former health secretary was one of finalists. it also of three finalists. it also included actor owen

included hollyoaks actor owen warner speaking with the warner now speaking with the presenters ant and the west presenters ant and dec, the west suffolk mp recognised appearing on show was controversial. on the show was controversial. he spent 18 days in the australian jungle and lost the conservative party whip . you're conservative party whip. you're up today on gb news. i'll bring you more as it happens. now back to, bev . to, bev. very good morning. thank you for joining me here on gb news. this is bev turner today on radio, tv and online . now, of course, i'm and online. now, of course, i'm and online. now, of course, i'm a celebrity. finished last night with mp matt hancock , making it with mp matt hancock, making it to the final. not winning, thankfully finishing in third place. we've got a poll up. you can get involved right now on twitter with that, we're asking if you will forgive and forget matt hancock's of the matt hancock's handling of the pandemic. you so far say pandemic. 21% of you so far say that will him. i'm that you will forgive him. i'm going be discussing that in going to be discussing that in just with wales just a moment. now with wales taking england tomorrow

taking on england tomorrow night, people across the uk all ready for another big match. bread and circuses. i know, but i for one, am enjoying a little bit of escapism, watching sport the sofa with the kids. i'm going to pull cathal in just going to pull in cathal in just a moment and going to be a moment and i'm going to be joined my fantastic joined by my fantastic commentators in about commentators again in about minutes for analysis of the day biggest stories, including the extra billion pounds of taxpayers money to be spent on insulating the uk's least energy efficient homes and the global fashion brand in a image scandal. you do not want miss that. and of course this show is nothing without you and your views do. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to give me your thoughts on anything and everything that we're . now. we should we're discussing. now. we should be talking about the winner, probably. but matt hancock finished in third place during last night's final of i'm celebrity. the former health secretary was was beaten by footballer jill scott and star

owen warner . but footballer jill scott and star owen warner. but has footballer jill scott and star owen warner . but has the owen warner. but has the participation in the show been controversial? have people's perceptions of him changed ? perceptions of him changed? joining me now is jane slater self proclaimed chief gammon, i call you all common sense correspondent jane because i think that's what you are. it is lovely to see you. and i know you have very strong opinions . you have very strong opinions. this is it. just that british people have got very short memories. do you think, jane? well, i think they've been manipulated and can't say it because they have to want to watch the show. i normally would watch, boycotted it watch, but i've boycotted it because couldn't i couldn't do because i couldn't i couldn't do that to people who have that to the people who have suffered the hands his suffered at the hands of his making. show how this is making. just to show how this is wrong every single level you wrong on every single level you don't a twitter right don't need a twitter poll right and people will be able to vote about hancock they get vote about matt hancock they get vote from the one twitter account in this particular voting . so i'm this particular voting. so i'm a celebrity individuals voting from a phone or a mobile converter took to 600 times and

it's pr firm i've been on tiktok targeting the younger audience let's face it at the beginning of this would have been 1415 who are now 1718 19 and they won't see politics way we older people do the probably even know anyone in a care home who died who could have probably been saved by not being there. they won't know anyone was sent into know anyone who was sent into care for respite, who just happened. care for respite, who just happened . hit the care home at happened. hit the care home at the wrong time ended up the wrong time and ended up never coming out because they died the. there's so many died in the. there's so many things going wrong with this decision making then subsequently two years later, a fact people to forget or fact that people to forget or not know about is the high court ruled against matt hancock's decision making . the didn't just decision making. the didn't just say it wasn't suitable , they say it wasn't suitable, they said it was unlawful . and the said it was unlawful. and the only thing the public got those who who suffered, who died, those who suffered, those couldn't whose those couldn't see and whose loved ones . the only they loved ones. the only thing they got hancock on the got was matt hancock on the hoof. walk into yet another busybody meeting where i said , busybody meeting where i said, well, of course this like the prime this morning, i prime minister this morning, i have for well

have apologised for this. well don't think that's enough. and if was me and i was involved if it was me and i was involved at for the right or wrong at all for the right or wrong reasons, i would have the common sense decency humanity to sense, decency and humanity to step away from there for a keep a low profile, do my job in my constituency and get on my life and try and pick up the pieces instead it's having to go . instead it's having to go. laundering is sullied reputation and by going on a lot entertainment show just seven months after he had to resign breaking his own rules worse here obeying the rules that wearing a good pair of hands when his hands are sliding up and down and his support ties. well, we can't even go and kiss about brummie . you see, i you about brummie. you see, i you see , i didn't. i didn't want to see, i didn't. i didn't want to watch it. jane but i love the series. i watch it. there's something about a winter's night watching sony pictures a deck of harmless in a well before covid. it was fantastic, entertaining and i did watch it this time because my children wanted to watch it. obviously 9:00 i was watching gb news dam water on

mark dolan, but i would tape it with the kids and we'd watch it when they came home from school next i was fascinated to next day. so i was fascinated to watch evolution. shaun from watch his evolution. shaun from the got and the moment he got in there and how we over the campmates how we won over the campmates and think i my children and i think i my children particular lily i think you're right. it's of the right. i think it's a lot of the young people who voted him, young people who voted for him, my thought was my children thought he was fabulous and a bit odd fabulous and funny and a bit odd and a bit geeky, a bit quirky. i was sitting there telling them they wrong and they had a they were wrong and they had a lot questions answer. but lot of questions to answer. but isn't that how this? isn't that how he's won this? it's lot of the young it's been a lot of the young maybe you say, who on maybe like you say, who who on tik tok. he's very cleverly run an orchestrated campaign to popularise he's been totally on youngsters. he's been totally on rebooting his career because what will happen? you'll get the work back as soon as he's played touches down at heathrow currently . don't forget , because currently. don't forget, because of his government the rules that he was to party the people who got injured from the vaccine who have been debilitated , do not have been debilitated, do not able to work, have a ceiling to

climb able to work, have a ceiling to clim b £120,000 to see them climb £120,000 to see them through the rest of their life. this man is getting through the rest of their life. this man is gettin g £400,000 for this man is getting £400,000 for three weeks. prime time tv to help him build his reputation. believe me , eating a kangaroo's believe me, eating a kangaroo's is just easy peasy for my uncle because he seems to have absolutely zero scruples and obviously the same amount of test balls . so we see a obviously the same amount of test balls. so we see a man who was at the forefront of keeping us safe. it didn't work on many levels. it cost us a fortune giving contracts out like confetti to tory friends and we're sitting and we have a nafion we're sitting and we have a nation of people are cheering him on i know well jane a lot of our viewers surprise wrongly even gb news viewers have are the most switched on in awake people out there in the country. a lot of them are saying, look he was the mouthpiece this he was just the mouthpiece this is gary on twitter. he was just a mouthpiece. if it wasn't him, it would been someone else. it would have been someone else. if in power, nothing if labour were in power, nothing would leaders would have changed. our leaders lead they were being lead it leading. they were being told do to say. and

told what to do and to say. and we all followed along like sheep. the world has lost the plot, just the mouthpiece for plot, he just the mouthpiece for the scientist . well, it's the scientist. well, it's irrelevant because all other scientists did have the congress not to go in the jungle. i've said before, is nothing to do with him, particularly i wouldn't even attacked him wouldn't have even attacked him as have, i've tried my as i have, and i've tried my best on every single public platform facebook to platform there is on facebook to draw people's attention to . the draw people's attention to. the fact people so sad goodbye fact that people so sad goodbye to the next door neighbours and different again , different never saw them again, unable to visit them and. this man has the audacity and the stupidity of the non tory conservative party to allow him to do it. this should have real this neck in because this man , this neck in because this man, you're forgetting how valuable he is. not as a health minister , forget that. matt hancock is valuable because he was the former digital minister and he worked hand in glove with the wef and as our government gives away our rise to non—government organisation ngos is a convenient cult like the who,

like the un . how important is he like the un. how important is he going to be when spent so much class work in time and a bias? the fourth industrial revolution 7 the fourth industrial revolution ? absolutely. he was the guy that was was talking about it in 2017. slater as always, very switched on, knows exactly going on and brings that good old dose of northern common sense. my correspondent common sense correspondent common sense correspondent june slater there. and you can follow jane on facebook. she's particularly busy now . new topic at british busy now. new topic at british museum is closing one of his exhibitions after 15 years over fears that it is perpetuating racist , sexist and ableist . fears that it is perpetuating racist, sexist and ableist . this racist, sexist and ableist. this is a welcome collection run by the charity a wellcome trust . it the charity a wellcome trust. it sparked outrage with many accusing it of cultural vandalism. but is this right? is this not part of a history? well, i'm delighted to say that i'm joined by a new guest here on jp news, sir geoffrey palmer , professor emeritus of the in the school of life sciences at heriot—watt university. thank

you so much for coming on this morning, geoff. now at first glance, stories like this seem to be a ridiculous case of sort of political correctness gone mad and that we are eroding our history at a cost to people might be there today. how do you see ? it's a little more nuanced see? it's a little more nuanced than that . oh, well , see? it's a little more nuanced than that . oh, well, i think, as than that. oh, well, i think, as you say, you know, political correctness gone. i think it's ignorance go mad . i think the ignorance go mad. i think the point is that we're talking about the history of how people behave towards each other and whether it's racism or gender . whether it's racism or gender. these two aspect of the way behave in the past and today they're critical. what i've often said you know, is that you cannot change the past, but we cannot change the past, but we can change consequences of the past such as racism and gender

prejudice. and we've got to do it through education. the point is, if you a museum a museum is about education the point that the article is there or the items are just exactly the same as they were a hundred years ago, the is that the interpretation issues which were put on them are quite different from how we know the policy was and when i read the article , you and when i read the article, you know, one of the things which it says is the museum is being closed because of the story we're told in exclu . did the we're told in exclu. did the know the black stories or the stories about women ? that's stories about women? that's exactly why it should be kept , exactly why it should be kept, because those stories should be told. because if you don't tell them , people will say , and i've

them, people will say, and i've heard this in many, many lectures i've given or in many situations i've been with , they situations i've been with, they say you're talking to men . they say you're talking to men. they sit and they're not listening because you've not provided evidence to convince them that what you're saying is relevant and therefore this history is about the relevance of the context of the so geoffrey , what context of the so geoffrey, what do you think is the logic behind who is making these what forces are at play paradigm shift may be is the phrase is at work to mean that we are now scared out of allowing people access to see our history in the context at which it was created . well, i which it was created. well, i think, you know, it's very sad, but maybe it's because it's horrific . it's way in fact, horrific. it's way in fact, people for example, designate people for example, designate people as different races . and people as different races. and one of the great minds of our

enlightenment, you know, david hugh, he's the one who said negroes were in syria to fight and that's in everybody's heads today. and that's in everybody's heads today . and unless you can use today. and unless you can use evidence like which is in that museum to actually dispel that belief , then in fact, people belief, then in fact, people will not listen . you must use will not listen. you must use what's there as evidence to say humans rule . darwin was wrong to humans rule. darwin was wrong to believe that. you know you know to follow up this concept that of inferiority applying to women and to black people . let's i'm and to black people. let's i'm geoffrey i just want to read this so this is what the welcome collection have said in a statement they said we can't change our past, but can work towards a future where we give voice to the narratives and lived experiences of those who

have been silenced. erased ignored. we tried to do this with some of the pieces in medicine man using artistic intervene , but the display still intervene, but the display still perpetuates a version of medical history that is based on racist , sexist and ableist theories and language. what your reaction to that statement? what are they getting wrong? well, what they're getting is they're saying one thing and doing another . they're saying that another. they're saying that we've got to correct this . how we've got to correct this. how can you correct it if it's missing a locked up and stored away? it's the point is that they've got to spend time and money and get people who are honest to look at that exhibition and to rewrite it in terms of the truth . a lot of terms of the truth. a lot of historians who work i've done in edinburgh , we've looked at the edinburgh, we've looked at the history of edinburgh and slavery and colonialism very carefully. we've had re—examined it and

edinburgh council as changed the plot of one of the most evil politicians of the past . and politicians of the past. and this is what needs to be done. we need to confront it , change we need to confront it, change it for the better . we need to confront it, change it for the better. using education. okay, fantastic. thank you so much, sir. geoffrey palmer , the professor emeritus palmer, the professor emeritus in the school of life sciences at heriot—watt university, devoted his life to this particular issue. and i think really interesting. he's saying keep it there. and the signage. okay there is plenty more. still to come after the break, panel will talk us through some big stories, news that an stories, including news that an extra pounds be spent to extra billion pounds be spent to insulate least insulate the uk's least efficient homes . send us your efficient homes. send us your emails as well. gbp at gbnews.uk. tell me what you think . you can tweet at gb think. you can also tweet at gb news and get involved with our poll right? asking our after i'm a celeb where you forgive and forget matt hancock's handling of pandemic . i forget matt hancock's handling of pandemic. i think there's of the pandemic. i think there's about 20% of you at the moment saying. forgive saying. yes. you would forgive him and the rest of you saying

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very good morning. you're watching instincts. best wednesday on gb news is my panel all back here with us. i am delighted to be joined by dr. roni hunter, camp celebrity chef , activist, tonia buxton and professor of politics at birkbeck college. university london. eric kaufmann, right three more stories, guys. these are ones that have been sort of hot off the press this we're starting with you, rishi sunak losing control says the headlines. i don't get a sense that he's losing control, feel like his feet are very much under the table and. he's going nowhere. what's this about? well, it's is sort of well, what it's about is sort of terrible right? so, you terrible numbers, right? so, you know since sunak's come in, got know, since sunak's come in, got control, the economy sort of

those polling numbers haven't budged and unless they do, a lot of tory mp are going to be out of tory mp are going to be out of a job next election and something has to change. right. so particular what i the so and in particular what i the key thing i think here is the channel crossings of these issues where backbench issues where there are backbench revolts. reform . there's revolts. i mean reform. there's a of talk now nigel a lot of talk now with nigel farage are going to farage that there are going to be to reform. some be defections to reform. some mps are making noises. the biggest issue, i mean , the biggest issue, i mean, the tories are not going to win lib dem labour voters 2019, their only they've only got a chance if they can woo back their red wall brexit voters who have defected en masse . and the key defected en masse. and the key issue for brexit was migration and the fact that the latest net migration numbers were 500,000. the fact that there has been a several years increase in cross—channel you know, these illegal boat crossings has meant that they're under a lot of pressure and a lot of their base just don't see a reason to vote tory anymore. who would vote tory? now it's on you. i have no idea. i mean, really, i really

do. stunned because there is do. i'm stunned because there is no such thing as a tory party and you know, we've discussed this political. this before. i'm not political. i for what i feel is the i just go for what i feel is the right thing to do. so i'm completely politically homeless because. wrong. because. all of them are wrong. the thing about, rishi, is that the kind of tory, the kind of members vote for him. members did not vote for him. they voted for and then it they voted for liz. and then it feels like there were of feels like there were kind of things going on behind the scenes her out and get scenes to get her out and get machine certain people want machine who certain people want it is it the bankers it in and the is it the bankers and is bankers it's not and if is the bankers it's not what the people want we want that we don't we don't want what. he's in what. he's bringing in and i still must hold that a man this rich can have no understanding of what it's like living in britain the moment, but britain at the moment, but they're rich, aren't they're all that rich, aren't they? let's face. they? i mean, let's face. but i think a point comes when you've got that how got enough money that that how much got almost becomes irrelevant. none these mps irrelevant. none of these mps know you the average man know you know the average man worried about paying his mortgage and his bills and that is a problem . it's a big is a problem. it's a big problem, but it's about benches really, it, who are really, isn't it, who are apparently starting to put pressure particularly pressure on him, particularly

green issues and immigration. there's too many crunch that he's not going to win because he's not going to win because he's never going to please everyone. and it's almost comes to what said eric, in to what i said to you, eric, in the break, that it's because half of the tory party wanted to be dems, but they thought be lib dems, but they thought they in if they they might get voted in if they saw this at all. right. i think that's absolutely it's a very important that the tory important point that the tory the recruit employees the way they recruit employees as come through elite as tended to come through elite universities, to be universities, they tend to be very socially and very liberal socially and economically. we've got mp surveys that show very clearly that they are nowhere near where their base is on the cultural issues, on things like migration. and that's one of the reasons haven't got reasons they haven't got the serious this really wouldn't serious and this really wouldn't split wouldn't split the voters very they went much more very much if they went much more determined this determined only after this question boats and question of small boats and migration. but all of these things were loosened under johnson under truss. truss wanted to increase numbers. they've gone in the diametric opposite direction from their voters that they need to win back. so i think this just shows the way the people who are

recruited to be nmps are completely unsuited . the kind of completely unsuited. the kind of voters, the tories. yeah but we could now, of us sitting could say now, all of us sitting here, the points that would make someone a successful leader could of the green levy. could get rid of the green levy. no interested that. no no one's interested in that. no one that. we one is interested in that. we just want to pay our and pay our bills. get stop illegal immigration. stop it you immigration. just stop it you know help let know people that need help let them in and you know and them come in and you know and it's full of men. that means it's not full of men. that means this boats men and they this boats full of men and they all you know, they're persecuted rubbish. falling rubbish. and no one's falling for you know, two for that. you know, these two things these just just these factors be nice to factors and it would be nice to fix the nhs. these are the things that will get any good leader voted in it's mean i'm leader voted in it's i mean i'm not politician it's common not a politician it's common sense. mini—budget sense. liz truss is mini—budget which for her didn't it. which was did for her didn't it. and renee it was the only kind of conservative, it was a nice plan that we've seen in a long. i listened that on the i listened to that budget on the day i said, so colin at home day and i said, so colin at home i wow that is a tory i said, wow that is a tory budget. like this. it's going budget. i like this. it's going encourage people work. now we encourage people to work. now we have the opposite. i spoke to a dentist the other day who's just going when they going to stop working when they reach certain level because

going to stop working when they rea

design brand balenciaga right now. they did a photo shoot which showed an of child which showed an image of a child apparently up in bondage apparently dressed up in bondage . sorry, wasn't the . sorry, the child wasn't the teddy bear she's holding dressed up gear. teddy bear she's holding dressed up gear . and has up in bondage gear. and this has gone massive . they're in a big gone massive. they're in a big pr store aren't they? pr store now, aren't they? what's really disgusting about it the fact that they're it is the fact that they're blaming trying to kill blaming they're trying to kill everyone they're everyone else off and they're blaming photographer. everyone else off and they're blamingblaming tographer. everyone else off and they're blamingblaming tog agents, they're blaming pr agents, they're everyone from they're blaming everyone from themselves. but in a multimillion moneymaking brand like this, look at these images . we're looking at the images .we're looking at the images now. this is a little girl of about if you're listening on the radio, three or four stood radio, maybe three or four stood up on a bed are kind up on a bed there are some kind of on the walls. is it of bat on the walls. is it dragons some black kind of accessories . and she's holding a accessories. and she's holding a white teddy wearing bondage chains and reins. and she's holding the teddy bear in her hands with a very kind of sad, confused used look on her face. yeah, absolutely. what do you make of that image? it's the sexualization of children that's going on across the now. needs to be called out and stopped and

valencia are going need to take responsibility that or the responsibility that the or the top officials must have seen these they have these pictures they must have them them off. so while them to sign them off. so while them to sign them off. so while the concept or the concept or all of it, they knew what was going now they're like going on and now they're like crazy sacking everybody crazy and sacking everybody rubbish. a bigger picture is rubbish. but a bigger picture is the sexualization young children it's a sinister creep. it's creeping the media. it's creepy in fashion. it's it has to stop. it's really sinister. it does. and i'm really, as you know, quite excited about i have a daughter, the age, who would not have been that to issue. i can tell you. but you know, we've actually got people calling for to no longer be called dolls. but as a sexual variant are but as a sexual variant they are child are trying to attract a minor attracted . we've got minor attracted. we've got tampax last week tweeting that they're tampax it's you know is it going to be in her sexualising something that 30 year olds use in that balenciaga age suit galinsky all kind of say shoot there was actually material apparently in the bookshelves which had connections to child. what the

hell is going on? we're letting our kids have their stories read to them by drag queen. do you think? it was always like this, but we've just woken up to it because this is very much a new phenomenon. i don't phenomenon. well, i don't i actually don't think it is as new as we think, although it's certainly extreme certainly had certain extreme expressions. but yeah, you can see sexualisation the see the sexualisation and the sort attitude to sort of avant garde attitude to sex, you know, that has a many decades. so for example, the paedophilia, there were intellectuals who wrote they were openly leaders in favour of paedophilia and the sort of seventies something and seventies italian something and was actually involved a group that had political links . yeah. that had political links. yeah. labour party. yes. so it has been there. it just feels like it's creepy more into mainstream at the thai saying and campaigns andifs at the thai saying and campaigns and it's kind of the erosion of the families and ultimately about eroding the family and the role of parents while we role of the parents while we parents and parents are still here. and you will know . the will not you won't know. the world cup group stage is slowly to close. drama has no end to a close. the drama has no end in sight, especially after yesterday's i look yesterday's results. when i look ahead tomorrow's clash ahead to tomorrow's clash between england, between wales and england, that's the morning's

that's all after the morning's news . good morning. it's 1133. news. good morning. it's 1133. i'm rosie vines, keeping you up to date more than 50 conservative mp have signed a letter urging the prime minister to change modern slavery laws to ease the migrant crisis . the ease the migrant crisis. the group, including former cabinet ministers, say migrants they believe are bogus asylum seekers who claim to be victims of trafficking can't then object to being returned to their home country and peace, including sigrid brady and esther mcvey, say the amendments would be a deterrent for those thinking of crossing the channel. the government's says there's not one single policy to resolve the crisis but that it would use every tool at its disposal people in. china authorities have put up barriers around parts of shanghai after hundreds people protested against strict covid restrictions. ten people were killed in a tower block over the weekend. that sparked civil unrest across the country. demonstrators claim that

coronavirus measures may have hindered people's escape from the fire they're calling for the president to resign . there's a president to resign. there's a police presence since in major cities and many people have been detained , the government's detained, the government's launching a £1 billion scheme to make middle income homes more efficient. hundreds of thousands of homes could receive lost and cavity wall insulation for three years from spring. it's mostly being targeted at households that. don't currently get support upgrade homes with a support to upgrade homes with a fifth of the funding being targeted at most vulnerable targeted at the most vulnerable . matt hancock is finished third on i'm a celebrity get me out of here. the retired england footballer crowned footballer scott was crowned queen the jungle. the former health secretary was one of three finalists, which also included hollyoaks owen included hollyoaks actor owen warner . now included hollyoaks actor owen warner. now speaking with included hollyoaks actor owen warner . now speaking with the warner. now speaking with the presenters ant and dec, the west suffolk recognised that suffolk mp recognised that appearing the show was appearing on the show was controversial matt hancock controversial. matt hancock spent 18 days in the jungle and lost conservative party whip lost the conservative party whip . but on your tv, online and used to be plus radio .

gb news morning good morning is 1136. you are watching and listening to bev turner today on gb news. now wales is taking england tomorrow night. people across the uk are getting ready for another nail biting contest. all you want of them. all this excitement has to local football clubs and yorkshire clubs too. and yorkshire reporter anna riley joins us now and the 13 club in hull on a lovely to see you . how exciting lovely to see you. how exciting is this the youngsters in in hull today i bet they're all desperate to tomorrow night with a bowl of crisps on their day and watch the telly go morning by. yes, definitely . it's north by. yes, definitely. it's north ferriby afc . by. yes, definitely. it's north ferriby afc. i'm at by. yes, definitely. it's north ferriby afc . i'm at the by. yes, definitely. it's north ferriby afc. i'm at the moment, it's a community club. it's got 350 members aged from six years

old all the way up to 74. and there's a lot of excitement, i can tell you of ahead of that world cup match tomorrow. england versus wales. world cup match tomorrow. england versus wales . and i'm england versus wales. and i'm joined by les hare . england versus wales. and i'm joined by les hare. he is the chairman of north ferriby fc. les, how are you feeling about the match tomorrow and what have you made of the world cup so far? well, i think everybody has found it fascinating. and because varying results because of the varying results i think or two countries, of think one or two countries, of course, found that course, have found that everything's going their everything's not going their own way, made way, which has made it absolutely fascinating for everybody and great everybody watching and great viewing, of course. and what has it done for community clubs like this? we've got an under 21 game that will going on between that will be going on between fulham behind us fulham and hole behind us now. yeah think obviously a lot of yeah i think obviously a lot of people attracted the people are attracted to the football when . you've got football when. you've got an event such world cup, so event such as the world cup, so we've an awful lot of people we've got an awful lot of people involved the community involved in the community already involved football, involved in the community alrethere'solved football, involved in the community alrethere's stilli football, involved in the community alrethere's still an football, involved in the community alrethere's still an awfulall, involved in the community alrethere's still an awful lot but there's still an awful lot gets sucked into it because it's on the television every hour of the day and will you be supporting tomorrow ? well, i supporting tomorrow? well, i mean, that's a no brainer, obviously that's an england

result all long for me. and result all day long for me. and what you make of the team? what do you make of the team? well, team itself, i mean, well, the team itself, i mean, obviously , mean, it's the best obviously, i mean, it's the best that we've got. and everybody looks at the game of football and england with opinions, everybody has opinions in football, awful lot everybody has opinions in f0(managers awful lot everybody has opinions in f0(managers out awful lot everybody has opinions in f0(managers out there ful lot everybody has opinions in f0(managers out there and ot of managers out there and everybody sitting and armchair wants manage . at the end of wants to manage. at the end of the day, think like the day, i think like everything, they've got a to everything, they've got a job to do and to go and get a result tomorrow to be guaranteed obviously spot. they obviously the top spot. they knew permutations if they knew the permutations if they got draw the other that got a draw and the other that can through. but in second can go through. but in second place, there's all sorts of but at the end of the day, i think certainly a result will come england's tomorrow. and what england's way tomorrow. and what you what betting what you you what you're betting what you scored be scored you think it'll be tomorrow . well the scoreline tomorrow. well the scoreline i mean, obviously it can be anybody's guess actually, but i think england can win that one total tomorrow. i can't see the well honest. so well scoring to be honest. so win for england. that's what was predicted absolutely right. yes, definitely thank you so much. you're welcome. hey, we are five in north ferriby in east yorkshire with that prediction

for an england wedding tomorrow . oh, look that. foggy no, . oh, look at that. foggy no, that makes me old enough . jake that makes me old enough. jake and i, you're having a lovely day. they're on a rally there in hull at an on 13th football club. now this match is taking place tomorrow . let's go over to place tomorrow. let's go over to paul hawkins. i imagine a slightly less fog up there in doha. slightly less fog up there in doha . is there, paul? how is doha. is there, paul? how is everything in qatar this morning? look at that lovely sunshine t shirt , flags flapping sunshine t shirt, flags flapping in the background . and how's it in the background. and how's it going? it looks terrible terrible . yeah a bit different terrible. yeah a bit different here , but it feels like a couple here, but it feels like a couple of degrees hotter . so we're well of degrees hotter. so we're well over 30 degrees at the moment. but it is what , 20 to 3 in the but it is what, 20 to 3 in the afternoon here. so the sun will be going down soon. right now, though, it's even hotter on the pitch in terms of what's going on because serbia and cameroon are playing out a six goal thriller. serbia went into one at half time and they then made it three the cameroonians it three one. the cameroonians hit twice. with about 15

hit back twice. so with about 15 minutes to go, it's a three minutes left to go, it's a three all and both are both. either of those teams want to win that one because teams lost their because both teams lost their first games. so really first round of games. so really big one going on at the moment. later on south take on later on south korea. take on ghana. later on south korea. take on ghana . that's a 1:00 kick off ghana. that's a 1:00 kick off your time brazil take on switzerland as of 4 pm. your time and then these are match this evening 7:00 uk time, 10:00 local time portugal against uruguay louis suarez against cristiano ronaldo . that should cristiano ronaldo. that should be worth watching this evening. when you get in tomorrow night, the really big one england against wales 10:00 kick off in that one both teams looking to bounce back from disappointing results time around yes england got a point against the usa but let's be honest they were rubbish wales on the other hand they've got a tiny chance of winning to beat winning they've got to beat england a scoreline hope england by a scoreline and hope the results go in their favour . the results go in their favour. marcus rashford has been speaking about england's game against wales tomorrow night and this is what he had to say to be honest, we don't need funds to

be was first to know that we've not played as well as we could have. and you know, i feel like it's a feeling that was mutual amongst the that we have amongst the group that we have done and, you know, it's done better and, you know, it's not just the players that start game. it's the it's the full, you know, we train, you know , you know, we train, you know, for four days leading up to the game . it's all of us. you do game. it's all of us. you do sometimes question what you have changed in the build up to the game, but that starts, you know, as players. we want to we want to win as many games as you can. rashford ahead of england wales tomorrow night and later on it's the long arm of brazil . yeah. if the long arm of brazil. yeah. if it goes out and you know , look it goes out and you know, look out on back, you guys , i would out on back, you guys, i would talk to them. but my portuguese isn't good enough and neither is their english . well, i just want their english. well, i just want to explain for people listening on the radio was not paul hawkins overtaken by a wave of enthusiasm that was a load of fansin enthusiasm that was a load of fans in the background brazilian

fans in the background brazilian fans holding up that big fans with holding up that big white air. white plastic hands in the air. paul thank you so much. let me know if you're looking forward to this match tomorrow night. like i know it's a bit like i said, i know it's a bit bread and circuses a lot of these and important things these and more important things to football. but we to worry about football. but we just occasional just need these occasional breaks, we, this breaks, don't we, from this heavy that just so heavy news agenda that just so down at the moment, i'm not sure whether england or wales whether england winning or wales winning your spirits. winning would lift your spirits. it little bit, it probably would a little bit, but let me know where you're going to watch it. gbp is at gbnews.uk. with 91% of uk gbnews.uk. now with 91% of uk households increase households reporting an increase in their of living. told in their cost of living. told you times it's tough for so many business secretaries us this morning that the government still solutions but still has solutions ahead, but they time in order to they need more time in order to implement them despite this, many people across the country are facing the of are still facing the prospect of limited heating or sky high bills . limited heating or sky high bills. burnley based organisation depher is doing what it can to help those who are struggling during the coldest months of the year north—west england reporter sophie reaper has been finding out more freezing cold with

empty bellies . that's the empty bellies. that's the reality for so many people as the cost of crisis continues bite this particular meal would be roughly , probably bite this particular meal would be roughly, probably £1.10 per person , and that's for two person, and that's for two meals. we've cut it down roughly two meals a day. we don't have a lunch every time we go out to the shop i'll get a basket of things and i think it's only be so much and it ends up being nearly double and it's crazy. the prices are just going out of control . but it isn't just the control. but it isn't just the rising cost of food that people are having to contend with. pfices are having to contend with. prices are rising across the board the boiler has been packed up and we it that that became a problem because we couldn't afford it we're not in a position to be able to just out and buy a new boiler it's terror really cold thankfully help was

at hand for the hartleys in the form of depher. at hand for the hartleys in the form of depher . we are form of depher. we are installing a brand new boiler. okay, established in 2017. defa is a community initiative which supports the elderly and vulnerable so we don't just deliver service. we deliver a life saving initiative to put food on the table. letter from catherine and mrs. it's olivia's heating hot water it delivers to the people a lifeline that they need now more ever with over 11,000 members is deaf a doesn't just support its local area of burnley. it helps right across the uk we ask people to apply for help. so the mother party bnngs for help. so the mother party brings on board the email as we to see them instead of as red tape and brick walls and handles the time of it all the time. we just have the basic needs of getting information off them. it's basic on who they are it's very basic on who they are . and put our plan in . and then we put our plan in place when began to

place when they began to struggle on their income of just £1,000 per month between them , £1,000 per month between them, keep an eye on, reach out to for help being with our the boiler over the christmas period would have been extremely cold and well it looks like we're going be in a position to be warm now . yeah an absolute angel absolutely angel in these incredibly tough many people will no choice but to fall back on the support of others . on the support of others. fortunately, initiatives like death are doing what they can catch the sophie reaper . gb catch the sophie reaper. gb news. thank you sophie. now back on the sofa let me reintroduce my panel to this morning. i am delighted to be joined by dr. renee hoon to camp celebrities freedom fighter activist tonia buxton and professor of politics birkbeck college eric kaufmann. right, renee this story here,

about right, renee this story here, abou t £1 billion of taxpayers about £1 billion of taxpayers money for the least efficient homes to install. is this a sensible move in terms of helping us get our bills down? yes and no , i think yes and no. yes and no, i think yes and no. i mean, look, i'm for all insulation homes where they need to be insulation. why you be. but what worries me about this once again we are ignoring once again is we are ignoring hardworking families who are just managing who might just about managing who might live in a band, a council tax home. they're council tax banding system. and so not qualify for any of this that they contribute to when there will be people in lower homes who haven't maybe ever any tax and they will help. and what about grandma , who's living in about grandma, who's living in the home she's lived in all of her life live that was rebranded as h, who is freezing death and cold kettles who also can't get any help. i just think we're kind of ignoring people who are working their socks off to make country, you know , great again, country, you know, great again, shall we say , but not managing, shall we say, but not managing, but trying really really hard. i

just had one window replaced in my 120 home in london, three bedroom semi, not very grand . bedroom semi, not very grand. 5000 quid. i would love some help to do the rest and save the money, but i won't get it . and money, but i won't get it. and you know, it's people who are working really, really hard who might need it, who could really benefit . why are we obsessed ? benefit. why are we obsessed? the headline and it is about the headline, let's help the worse . headline, let's help the worse. we know what everybody's worse off right now. yes, everybody , off right now. yes, everybody, this is going to be the kind of thing that rishi sunak is going to trot out time and time again, isn't it, tony, when somebody holds into account what he's doing on environment, he doing on the environment, he will we are giving will say, well, we are giving £1,000,000,000 to enter the at the of who need it the hands of those who need it the hands of those who need it the insulate their homes. the most, insulate their homes. but to make any but it's not really to make any impact, is it? not at. and then the 18 million for the public information campaign and get flushed you know flushed down the you you know it's just ridiculous and just is just speak he is not doing anything you need get rid of the mad net zero levy you need to

give people a chance you need to make sure that they've got enough money to fund the heating. and yes, i agree with you. it's great to be able to insulate your house, but it is really, really expensive and it's expensive everyone, not it's expensive for everyone, not just minuscule little just this one minuscule little band bottom. they've just band at the bottom. they've just got about. got something to talk about. it's this another it's rubbish. is this another example eric of where just example of eric of where we just haven't forward in terms haven't forward planned in terms of this difficult conflict haven't forward planned in terms of “us; difficult conflict haven't forward planned in terms of 'us having lt conflict haven't forward planned in terms of 'us having to :onflict haven't forward planned in terms of 'us having to havect haven't forward planned in terms of 'us having to have houses between us having to have houses which are warm ? it seems like a which are warm? it seems like a very basic competence in britain in 2022, doesn't it? but having a house that is warm, not wrecking the economy by pursuing a net zero agenda without a cost benefit . analysis of what that benefit. analysis of what that would would say, and now would mean, i would say, and now we've got of these leaky we've got all of these leaky houses all of heat is houses where all of our heat is escaping them. why are escaping out of them. why are they this now? why have we they doing this now? why have we not done this before? well, you're absolutely right. we you're absolutely right. why we done i mean, done this before? i mean, i think a very important thing think is a very important thing to insulation in uk to get better insulation in uk homes the article uk homes as the article says, uk has of the worst insulated has some of the worst insulated homes . it's a no brainer has some of the worst insulated homes. it's a no brainer in a way, but it should have been happening lot earlier, right. happening a lot earlier, right. so agree with that. mean,

so i agree with that. i mean, the things tricky the net zero things tricky because are these because there are these international that international agreements that governments up and i governments sign up to. and i think moving towards a society thatis think moving towards a society that is using less energy is noble goal. but again, why little and so late? right i think actually, as renee was saying , you could graduate saying, you could graduate perhaps this help so that it doesn't just suddenly stop at band d. what also worries me about these sorts of stories, when the government say that they're going to pay firms to do stuff on our houses or to do anything private capacity, anything in a private capacity, it's that will be it's the profit that will be made private now made by the private firms. now go and insulate houses. go around and insulate houses. am to be worried about am i right to be worried about that, think you're that, renee? i think you're right be worried about that. right to be worried about that. and i think you just hit the nail on the head about the net zero none of i don't zero thing. none of us i don't care had a page about care that they had a page about it in their manifesto. they didn't have any about how much it cost us it would cost us all individually, whether would individually, whether we would be like we want to be able to live like we want to live, we want fly. we need live, we want to fly. we need a referendum. this we spell referendum. this where we spell it, are the benefits. but it, these are the benefits. but this your individual do this is your individual cost. do you still want it or do you

still want by 2030, 2050, whatever it is? i think also when comes the housing when it comes to the housing situation, feels like such situation, this feels like such just missing around the just sort of missing around the edges actually building edges because actually building all homes, every single new all new homes, every single new should be to the insulation standards . and they're currently standards. and they're currently not standing is that this is because a lot of the investors the tory parties were on the big house housebuilding companies who would just like to do brick an fashioned brick and an old fashioned brick and therefore they're not any therefore they're not under any pressure. this. but pressure. we to start this. but every house that goes up every single house that goes up don't we eric? yeah, i think you're you're absolutely right. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' if you're absolutely right. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' i thinke absolutely right. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' i think that ;olutely right. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' i think that theyzly right. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' i think that they could 1t. don't we eric? yeah, i think you' i think that they could also and i think that they could also put and heating put new technology and heating as , that would help as well, that that would help too. so i mean, the other part of this is, of course, geopolitical not to be reliant on example. so part this on russia example. so part this is self—sufficiency in is about self—sufficiency in energy. so i think you're right . i think they are a bit behind the curve and they have been doing and you still can't get planning permission for solar panels easily on houses and regardless of whether you believe should be believe that we should be cutting on our fossil fuels cutting back on our fossil fuels , don't to be paying any , i don't want to be paying any of gas companies electricity

of the gas companies electricity bills have today. so bills more than i have today. so if i can generate some of my own power within my own house, i'll happily right. so happily do that right. so anyway, move on anyway, we're going to move on news broken pictures of news have broken new pictures of just matt hancock going just story of matt hancock going to the after for party i'm a celebrity . we're going to bring celebrity. we're going to bring them in just a moment. i'm going to come to you when i handicap first, you know how. and first, because you know how. and he made it to the final and he's had a great pr renovation like a phoenix from the flames of covid. he has now risen to the applause of the nation and welcome. we've gone mad. i welcome. we've all gone mad. i mean, watched because mean, i've watched this because i anyway , but i i wouldn't anyway, but i certainly watch for certainly wouldn't watch it for matt hancock, i am apoplectic with rage inside. i may look calm about this, but i am not this. is a man who was responsible . the deaths old responsible. the deaths of old people care homes when he sent them without any testing and then when he helped institute then when he helped institute the frailty score as a measure for whether someone got help if they got covid. i'm sorry. he needs to be standing in front of a commission answering for those

things, not parading around with his girlfriend in australia, in the jungle , making sure that the jungle, making sure that everybody likes , him and he can everybody likes, him and he can get after dinner, speaking for 40 grand a when he's what 40 grand a time when he's what will next? i don't care will he do next? i don't care what the main thing is. i'm so disappointed in the british public. i'm so disappointed in the british public. that kept him in the hole. it was game in their game to eat. i know sheep's testicles and all of that stuff. make him and then get him out first. send the sign, the fact that he made it to the final disappoints me so much with b c. i have a theory on that because people like us who do think that there are questions that he needs to answer, we didn't want to engage. saw that even engage. we saw that even necessarily the necessarily by watching the programme, be condoning programme, we might be condoning presence didn't to presence and we didn't want to get voting app . and so get on the voting app. and so i think those haven't been think those all haven't been involved . our side this involved. our side of this debate, i've stayed away debate, i've just stayed away from and maybe we should have from it and maybe we should have girded uploaded girded our loins and uploaded the app and voted for scott, who eventually won it. thank goodness you think that might be

what's happened, derek well, yeah.i what's happened, derek well, yeah. i mean, this is not a show that i'd watch and maybe that i'd ever watch and maybe that's problem. i mean, that's the problem. but i mean, i maybe partly there's i do think maybe partly there's this redemption that this redemption story that people although, know people like, although, you know what's to me is somebody what's amazing to me is somebody who'd go who'd be willing to sort of go on after he's been it just on tv after he's been so it just kind of shows you the kind of person that's coming into politics. they've got you have to have such a thick skin. i know someone that knows him. and when was going on, was when this was going on, i was saying it's so sinister saying it's all so sinister look, what they're doing is so terrible. can't what terrible. can't they see what they're to the public and they're doing to the public and they're doing to the public and they many kids are killing they see many kids are killing how many they're killing. how many people they're killing. and president knows said and the president knows and said to oh, he's just so dim. you to me, oh, he's just so dim. you have dim this man is have no idea how dim this man is and what me out. is this and what freaks me out. is this and what freaks me out. is this and man running our and this man was running our country. this stupid man is clearly not self—aware at all. i mean, look at he's gone. mean, look at him. he's gone. the. i mean, just. got the. i mean, just. i i've got the words it. i'm so by the words for it. i'm so by what's going on. i don't know what's going on. i don't know what to say. well, let me tell you gb news viewers have you what gb news viewers have said. nearly of you voted you what gb news viewers have sa ouriearly of you voted you what gb news viewers have sa our twitter of you voted you what gb news viewers have sa our twitter this of you voted you what gb news viewers have sa our twitter this morning oted you what gb news viewers have sa our twitter this morning and in our twitter this morning and 79% of you are saying that you

won't forgive him . well, don't won't forgive him. well, don't you a out that . what does he do you a out that. what does he do next, renee? does he go to politics? apparently, his has been brokering his media deals behind the scenes there. so he has a book coming out. and i'm sure that a lot of this had a lot to do with that because now who voted for him may well buy his book where before only ten people would have bought his book. i know all them. i can book. i know all of them. i can tell and then from there, tell you. and then from there, i think just wants after dinner think he just wants after dinner speaking recreated speaking wants he's recreated himself in his himself as a celebrity in his eyes and narcissistic, thick skinned. he's skinned. i think he's constituents he should be select him. but the reason not this election impervious they know that a labour mp now as safe as that a labour mp now as safe as that actually also i think that and actually also i think there's a lot of employees that will a bit myopic and will will be a bit myopic and say, well, public quite like say, well, the public quite like him, better him in him, we better get him back in politics and there'll be lots of jokes in the house of commons about him eating kangaroo penis, stuff and stuff like that. and we will just right. thank you so just furious right. thank you so much panel for today. much to my panel for today. i can't believe it's nearly 12:00. it's homework it's flown by. got some homework for week let me know on

for you this week let me know on twitter at bev turner or at gb news who you would like to for turner prize later week. turner prize later this week. the who up for the someone who stood up for their a cost to their beliefs at a cost to themselves , perhaps had a david themselves, perhaps had a david versus goliath type victory . let versus goliath type victory. let me springs mind for me know who springs to mind for you. you again to you. a thank you again to my brilliant panel. to be brilliant panel. going to be back tomorrow, coming back at 10:00 tomorrow, coming next, it's gb day mark next, it's gb news day with mark longhurst. day. longhurst. have a great day. hello, i'm aidan mcgivern, the met we've seen some fog met office. we've seen some fog to start the day in places that will slowly lift some showers as well ease later. otherwise well will ease later. otherwise for many sunny spells, particularly for northern scotland and to parts of northwest england , the south as northwest england, the south as well, seeing some sunshine. but west wales into the south—west of england, especially cornwall . we'll continue to see showers dunng . we'll continue to see showers during the afternoon. one or two showers across central areas , showers across central areas, but otherwise a good deal of dry weather but not sunny everyone. there will be some low cloud and mist persisting across east northeast england where the low cloud in the north—east england lifts and breaks . we're going to

lifts and breaks. we're going to see that drifting south during the evening and during the early hours. that will tend to sit the midlands of east anglia. showers along the south coast will continue to affect the far southeast. otherwise it's a dry night most, with clear night for most, with clear spells scotland, northern spells to scotland, northern ireland, and ireland, western england and wales. here actually star wales. and here actually star minus three or celsius. but there will be some dense around because we've got light winds as and this ridge of high pressure is to start things on tuesday that for most will bring a fine start to the day of break in the wet and windy weather that we've dunng wet and windy weather that we've during the last few weeks and months but there will be some of that dense fog around some low cloud , predominantly across cloud, predominantly across central and eastern england. but elsewhere, fog patches tending to lift and skies will brighten . scotland, northern and western england wales and northern ireland seeing spells and highs of ten or 11 celsius. but where we do some fog and low cloud persists , 3 to 6 celsius is more persists, 3 to 6 celsius is more likely . so chilly day to come in

likely. so chilly day to come in places 1 to 2 showers, never to far away from the far southeast. otherwise for the vast majority, it looking dry. that is until this area of rain moves and that will affect parts of northern dunng will affect parts of northern during wednesday it makes much further progress because high pressure builds and turns dry everywhere .

hello and welcome to gb news live. i'm mark longhurst and here's what's coming up this monday . more than 50 tory mps monday. more than 50 tory mps have urged the prime minister to change modern slavery laws to make it easier to send migrants home. a letter by senior tory mp

david davis has demanded