good evening. this is the latest from gb newsroom. the minister says the uk needs evolve its approach when it comes to deaung approach when it comes to dealing with russia and china . dealing with russia and china. in his first major foreign policy speech since taking office, mr. sunak also said the so—called golden era of relations with china is over, as he stressed the need the government to do away with wishful thinking . we can't wishful thinking. we can't depend on war arguments or approaches or mere sentimentality about our past, so we will make an evolutionary in our approach it means

delivering a stronger economy at home as the foundation of our strength abroad . and it means strength abroad. and it means standing up to our competitor , standing up to our competitor, not with grand rhetoric, but with robust pragmatism . more 50 with robust pragmatism. more 50 conservative mps have signed a letter urging the minister to introduce emergency legislation to ease the migrant crisis . they to ease the migrant crisis. they want modern slavery laws changed so that people are return to safe countries faster . they also safe countries faster. they also say those who claim they've trafficked should be sent back without objection . signatories, without objection. signatories, including sir graham and esther mcvey , believe it would deter mcvey, believe it would deter people from crossing the channel. gb news understand has almost 450 people have been intercepted on nine small boats so far . the government intercepted on nine small boats so far. the government has scrapped a new proposal to make it illegal to bring cars self harm online. the revised online

safety bill instead put the responsibility on platforms to take down material in breach of their own terms of service , their own terms of service, following concerns over free. the amendments were influenced by the case of 14 year old molly russell, who ended her life in 2017 after viewing content on social . media. a british 2017 after viewing content on social. media. a british man suspected of leading international drug ring has detained by law enforcement the europe led police operation , europe led police operation, including officers from the uk national crime agency , arrested national crime agency, arrested 49 people across spain, belgium, the netherlands , the uae. the netherlands, the uae. a second british man accused of having key financial role within the gang has also been arrested. more 30 tonnes of cocaine was seized at the white house along the uk's foreign secretary backing the right to peaceful protests in china over covid restrictions . protesters turned restrictions. protesters turned out again evening despite a

strong police presence. it follows a demonstration over the weekend, which started after ten people were killed in a fire at an apartment block . protesters an apartment block. protesters blame quarantine measures saying they prevented the victims from escaping and the national has decided not to energy saving scheme tomorrow paying households if they cut power usage. the move would have been the first ever live run of the operators flexibility service designed to ease pressure on, the country's energy grid and, avoid blackouts , tv , online and avoid blackouts, tv, online and dab+ radio . this is tv news. now dab+ radio. this is tv news. now it's over to headliners . it's over to headliners. hello up with the headline is i'm nick dixon. i'm here with

two top lads, paul cox and jonathan cogan, who stepped heroically at the last minute, hence that jumper, no excuse , hence that jumper, no excuse, for paul's shirt, though, i'll be going through all the top stories them in a moment. but first let's smash through tuesday's so the daily tuesday's pages. so the daily mail keir's class war to 200 mail has keir's class war to 200 private schools is the is going with tory rebellion windfarms new threat to pm's authority financial times legarde says ecb not done raising rates despite signs of easing inflation . the signs of easing inflation. the times social media four child accounts the son has do or die and the metro is russia's and finally the star goes with come on which is a football reference and those were your front pages . so and those were your front pages. so guardian. jonathan i've nothing because you've fixed your attire but i'll put my jacket on i. i felt a bit self—conscious you know i put on some weight. so

we're back. good. maybe it's a search within the last few seconds you put on weight. yeah, it's just eating. let's do the news, come on. sunak news, guys. come on. sunak fawning she fawning over china, she continues. crack down on. so, i mean, this has been all over the papers today . so basically sunak papers today. so basically sunak has signalled the end of the golden era of relations between britain when he used his britain china when he used his first major policy first major foreign policy speech of creeping speech to warn of creeping authoritarianism of being regime. i mean, it's hardly if you ask me, it's been pretty , you ask me, it's been pretty, pretty severe. it's crept really, hasn't it.7 such good really, hasn't it.7 such a good point. mean, first question point. i mean, first question i had after reading this was why now.7 did had after reading this was why now? did he not see hong now? i mean, did he not see hong kong a or two ago, but he kong a year or two ago, but he wasn't prime minister. no, he wasn't prime minister. no, he wasn't he was not. i don't mean the need this right. wasn't he was not. i don't mean the need this right . yeah. but the need this right. yeah. but he he you know, not like he has had opinions , views on china had opinions, views on china before now in his, in his various positions . so i don't various positions. so i don't understand why now . well, the understand why now. well, the irony of it is it's happened . irony of it is it's happened. the crackdown on lockdown protests , whereas we were protests, whereas we were cracking down on lockdown all over the place, manhandling people. much of europe was doing

it. holland seem particularly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*andld seem particularly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*and nowem particularly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*and now that articularly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*and now that china.arly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*and now that china isly people. much of europe was doing it. h�*and now that china is it. bad. and now that china is it. we're all like, oh, we've got to crack down. ji it's like, what about us in west? it's such it's such a good point, i think. i don't know agree, john, don't know if you agree, john, but a view of what could be but it's a view of what could be for us. i mean, that's happens when the state becomes completely you completely tyrannical and you have, total have, you know, a total totalitarian regime restricting the just a the freedoms of people just on a whim. terrifying. and no whim. it's terrifying. and no country is completely from going down that route eventually. so story that these people are story is that these people are prone people are prone the chinese people are protesting that's the story. protesting. that's the story. it's know , have to look it's not you know, have to look deeper they're deeper to see what they're protesting about. but the fact that they're protesting a tiananmen square where keeps tiananmen square where it keeps get indeed keeps getting get scared. indeed keeps getting keeps mentioned . and, keeps getting mentioned. and, you that didn't really you know, that didn't really bnng you know, that didn't really bring it just bring about change. but it just goes show you how important goes to show you how important is to have freedom of ideas and freedom of speech. i think that yeah. freedom of speech. i think that yeah . and he's toned down his yeah. and he's toned down his language since he was on campaign he saying campaign trail. he was saying that a threat. now that china was a threat. now he's saying it's not threat, he's saying it's not a threat, but need sort of monitor but we need to sort of monitor it. i do it's amazing

it. but i do think it's amazing that the media has changed their tune as well. did you see the sky news is talking about the remarkable bravery of the protesters, was remarkable bravery of the pro again;, was remarkable bravery of the pro again when was remarkable bravery of the pro again when it was was remarkable bravery of the pro again when it was protest. off again when it was a protest. they brave, they were they weren't brave, they were evil, to evil, anti—vaxxers to be destroyed, three years destroyed, and they three years was the cut off point three. is this fine anything afterwards is then your heroine is then your then your heroine is all well that's the all right well that's the guardian covered. guardian pretty much covered. so that's male next and paul that's to the male next and paul have what you think cares a class war threat to 200 private schools. well i would say i mean i've got quite an opinion on this actually i'm a i'm a working class guy from working class family. i to a comprehensive school. but don't believe in freedom of choice. i believe in freedom of choice. i believe in freedom of choice. i believe in aspiration . you know, believe in aspiration. you know, you have to be able to aspire to something. and i think that there are about 600,000 private schoolchildren , you were to take schoolchildren, you were to take them out of private . they'd have them out of private. they'd have to go into the public sector as call it here into comprehensive. it would be . i think that will it would be. i think that will be quite funny. that's how the in between those stuff and that

would be it would be hilarious but it would come at a cost and a huge cost i'd imagine the that's being paid to send those kids there. now how astronomical it comparison to it is nothing in comparison to what to 600, it is nothing in comparison to what to 600, 600,000 what it is to 600, 600,000 children. sure it's children. so i'm not sure it's going save any money. they're going to save any money. they're not right people not targeting the right people because going to because they're not going to affect , you know, know, you affect, you know, you know, you put 20, 40, 60. people are trying to attack, are still going to be able to afford to send their kids to these schools. right. the super wealthy yeah yeah super wealthy people not in this people not living in this country and all that kind of what. do you think. johnson so is the fees because is a 20% onto the fees because the 80 right yeah if he vat the 80 right so yeah if he vat registered your kids could registered your kids you could then so that is an then the tax so that is an opfion then the tax so that is an option just saying your kids need to be vat registered as and earning ove r £80,000 a year. earning over £80,000 a year. i think you can voluntarily vat to the family . yeah i still do the family. yeah i still do understand it but no what do i think? what do i think. let the people choose and you know what's i wasn't what's called the team. i wasn't allowed to school because i had some behavioural as some behavioural problems as a child. i there was an incident

with a citizen protractor so most was spent on the most of my was spent on the naughty you grew up naughty stuff a lot. you grew up sort of like joker in some sort of like the joker in some kind asylum system and and kind of asylum system and me and paul went kind of asylum system and me and paulwent comprehensives kind of asylum system and me and paul went comprehensives all paul went to comprehensives all of i mean, i talk about it of us. i mean, i talk about it too but what really too much, but what really bothers about this it bothers me about this is it punishes the wrong people? as you not going you said, it's not going to punish wealthy. it's punish the ultra wealthy. it's going punish who aspire to going to punish who aspire to get kid private get their kid into private school. they've worked school. maybe they've worked really is just really hard, but also is just classic what i hate say, classic of what i hate to say, but what the left do when it comes to education, they destroy grammar schools, which was a way for poor for people from poor backgrounds, class, for people from poor backg middle class, for people from poor backg middle class class, for people from poor backg middle class to class, for people from poor backg middle class to go ss, a lower middle class to go to a good school. they took that way, lower middle class to go to a go course. ol. they took that way, lower middle class to go to a go course. stormy took that way, lower middle class to go to a go course. storm i took that way, lower middle class to go to a go course. storm i went that way, lower middle class to go to a go course. storm i went to it way, of course. storm i went to reigate grammar which reigate grammar school. which grammar? turned into a grammar? then it turned into a fee paying school. he benefited it. want to take away it. now they want to take away from else. is what from everyone else. this is what happened with the comprehensives, you know the change to change from grammar to comprehensive. is exactly comprehensive. this is exactly the still the same because it's still people certain amount of people with a certain amount of money, kind similar money, but it's kind of similar it. agree. and what is an it. yeah i agree. and what is an interesting point you make. i don't believe this is a keir starmer policy believe this is keir starmer appease keir starmer trying appease certain the labour certain parts of the labour party he's he's himself

party he's he's not himself now it a policy it was a corbyn policy originally wasn't i think so originally it wasn't i think so yes corbyn over but yes it's got corbyn all over but i not to be unfair corbyn i mean not to be unfair corbyn and wouldn't i be? but it's and why wouldn't i be? but it's not to be unfair to call, but it's the sort of thing that the hard left have been dreaming of for years, know, eradicating for years, you know, eradicating these from these type of people from society. equal, it? society. it's not equal, is it? it's equal. you've had it's not equal. you've had a £45,000 year education and £45,000 a year education and compared free. but it's compared to the free. but it's only true almost every only true with almost every aspect society, life, you have more you then have the more money you then have the inequality and where live in your houses and the technology your houses and the technology you like what's different you and like what's different here is that the idea that private create a or a chasm as chasm schism in society and then i think the big questions they and i think they create an aspiration now maybe it's unattainable maybe it maybe i'm a dreamer but it does create an aspiration and ambition for people to strive towards why not have it? here's a question would you for keir starmer ? funny you vote for keir starmer? funny thing about starmer, right is this quite a lefty policy. this is quite a lefty policy. he's quite he's been saying quite conservative you look conservative things. if you look at , a pablo or

at his background, a pablo or pablo which is a splinter group from trotskyism so it's quite far left. and he used to edit a magazine called socialist alternatives is starmer like alternatives. so is starmer like is sort centrist is he a sort centrist conservative a small or is conservative with a small or is he kind of a quiet radical lefty kind of sneaking in? that's my question. and would you vote for him if you can't answer question? would you vote for him? think first of all, him? i think well, first of all, i think he's a politician. so what he's doing, he's hedging his bets. he's taken he had to take the labour party away from the corbyn and create it into what it is now. the last successful labour was successful labour government was , that was , tony blair. and that was because he moved towards the centre starmer's going to have to the same things to get elected and he still will have to that get elected if he to do that to get elected if he goes towards far left. goes out towards the far left. even with what the conservatives have done, i think it has trouble it having trouble also a brief addition to for me, one on the front page of , the mail, it the front page of, the mail, it says how pink noise can aid sleep. brown noise helps you focus. thought noises focus. i thought brown noises when hear really low no and

when you hear really low no and then you just you know they came you're moving moving to the you're moving moving on to the next headline. do the next headline. let's do the times you get times johnson before you get yourself yeah yourself in more trouble. yeah so the social fines for child accounts . so this so the social fines for child accounts. so this is to do so the social fines for child accounts . so this is to do with accounts. so this is to do with the online safety bill role. so social media firms will be forced to buy underage children or face multi pound fines under a new law to protect from harm onune. a new law to protect from harm online . now, my intuition here online. now, my intuition here is anything that can protect children online almost certainly going to be a good thing. children online almost certainly going to be a good thing . the going to be a good thing. the other side of this is with this bill, there's also going to be some issues here when it pertains to, i guess , speech pertains to, i guess, speech onune pertains to, i guess, speech online and what people want to hean online and what people want to hear, what they don't want to hear, what they don't want to hear and, what's acceptable. and also that they use the term for being described as illegal but harmful. and i don't really know what that would entail . so my what that would entail. so my understanding is illegal, but harmful has been dropped as well. that's what i believe. but they've still got to think harmful communications. what you could that offends could say something that offends someone technically someone and technically you could prison for two years

could go to prison for two years because they like it. because they didn't like it. it's thing that it's that kind thing that worries obviously, you want it's that kind thing that wcprotect obviously, you want it's that kind thing that wcprotect children, sly, you want it's that kind thing that wcprotect children, butyou want it's that kind thing that wcprotect children, but do want it's that kind thing that wcprotect children, but do we nt to protect children, but do we lose free speech? well, yeah, i would that we have to split would say that we have to split this into two camps. really are some very obvious that do some very obvious things that do need able to police, for need to be able to police, for want of much better word, to want of a much better word, to be honest, know, anything be honest, you know, anything around paedophilia, anything around encouraging children commit or think of commit suicide or or think of themselves negative . i themselves in a negative. i think can park over there . think you can park over there. go. yeah, enforce that. i'll come that in a sec. and come back that in a sec. and then there other things like then there are other things like you how do you determine you say, how do you determine what's and wrong ? how what's right and wrong? how do you what is what a you determine what is what a child should hear from a political perspective ? how do political perspective? how do you determine ideology ? and this you determine ideology? and this is where a creeps into an area which we all have, i think, a little bit of an issue with. i don't have any issue with safeguarding whatsoever. i would say, however i've talked about putting it into two camps. i'm not sure how you enforce it. so what you've got to put your abovei what you've got to put your above i mean things are in place refer mean you're supposed refer i mean you're not supposed to under 14 or to go onto twitter under 14 or 16. that's the issue. there's so

children a statistic children there's a statistic here as one point as many as 1.8 million children under 13 in the uk have a social account and they're not met, they're not meant to. you know, that's lot of and there's also a of people. and there's also a meta which it's meta issue here, which is it's not the content you, it's not just the content you, it's even you're seeing innocuous even if you're seeing innocuous content you're on content the fact that you're on social and it's just your social media and it's just your dopamine, your reward system by all day that is another in all day it's that is another in itself and i didn't itself and i'm glad i didn't have as a kid cathartic on some weird i've got weird places i'm i've got a teenage daughter she on teenage daughter she is on social media in various ways and right i mean don't right about that i mean we don't really know fallout of what really know the fallout of what social media is for generation because we're all living it together at the moment. i think in 20 years time we'll all go back say, maybe we could back and say, maybe we could have policed it differently. i don't know. i hate to say the word sounds word policing because it sounds like i'm trying to police it, but yeah. yeah, because bbc but yeah. yeah, because of bbc so the thing is, don't so bad. but the thing is, don't want regulating want the government regulating speech. elon musk doing speech. we want elon musk doing it. my view let's it. that's my view so let's finish with the finish this section with the staff i believe it's fairly staff and i believe it's fairly football it is on the football heavy it is come on the star says and they're talking

about our two countries that are fighting out tomorrow evening fighting it out tomorrow evening obviously now obviously england and wales now i'm fan i'm an and i'm a football fan i'm an and i want england to i think this plays into the hands of the welsh that the underdog i think they want to be the underdog. i think most people, if they're not english, will supporting wales. nothing to wales. they've got nothing to lose. essentially they're not. they're england they're nearly out. england can draw can win and still go through. i england will relax tomorrow. i think they'll win convincingly, but the danger is we have an arrogance about us and we go about the game all wrong . well you do pull me and wrong. well you do pull me and jonathan was saying before the show. do you care john? because i am a football fan, but i've been put off by the qatar cup. that's a works. i've missed the games. i'm not a that normal. games. i'm not a that is normal. i football on i normally play football on tuesday we've all our tuesday night we've lost all our because england. because we're watching england. i would rather play watch anybody i thought you can ask nick because nick to join your team because i know don't play know know you don't play and i know you just to be crushed you just need to be crushed immediately. yeah, i would. i would. dangerous tackle, would. i do a dangerous tackle, do i do care that whoever

do what i do care that whoever gets more upset when they i want to lose that. that's to lose that. that's, that's basically of course i want england let's very england to win. let's be very clear, as well as i am clear, just not as well as i am about previous world cups, but of course i'll be okay with my shirt off face pain anyway. shirt off my face pain anyway. i want to clarify anything poll want to clarify anything i poll because want add because you want to add something. doing because you want to add somiandlg. doing because you want to add somiand i. doing because you want to add somiand i was doing because you want to add somiand i was just doing because you want to add somiand i was just wasoing because you want to add somiand i was just was just that and i was just i was just trying to imagine you a face paint all right that's probably enough that's all. enough of that. that's all. well, up china even more well, coming up china even more oppressive gets a oppressive monkey pox gets a rebrand. jonathan into rebrand. and jonathan into a suit. in 2 minutes.

welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon . welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon. i'm here welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon . i'm here with nick dixon. i'm here with jonathan kogan, a.k.a. i'm paul cox , a.k.a. pull tues mail now cox, a.k.a. pull tues mail now and rishi sunak sunak utters the somewhat terrifying phrase to me covid style force pull. yeah, thatis covid style force pull. yeah, that is terrifying, isn't it?

rishi sunak has declared war on cancen rishi sunak has declared war on cancer. obese it's a mental health and addiction . a health and addiction. a blueprint inspired by vaccine rollout. prime today announced more than 113 million in funding research into cutting edge treatments and technology. now much like you, i think it's important that every minister starts a war and. why not start one on cancer? but this over, you know, obviously having this story, it talks about cutting edge and investing in new technologies. i think he's not going to need to under technologies. i think he's not going to need to unde r £30 going to need to under £30 million. i think there are much more advanced treatments out that the nhs can't afford . it's that the nhs can't afford. it's about figuring out how, how, how to make the nhs more lean so it can afford those new to access those new treatments , access those new treatments, access that new technology which not the argument of this, i mean the vaccine roll out logistically whatever thought a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically wha lever thought a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically whai can't thought a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically whai can't say1ought a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically whai can't say whatt a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically whai can't say what i a vaccine vaccine roll out logistically whai can't say what i think:ine and i can't say what i think getting it off but whatever you thought of the vaccine the rollout itself is separate from the efficacy . the vaccine

the actual efficacy. the vaccine wasn't of good process. wasn't a sort of good process. so isn't it the right idea to at least take the logistics that and apply it to other things like, cancer and so on, so sorry , it say? well, they , what does it say? well, they say, know, covid starts say, you know, covid starts forces cancer, but forces to treat cancer, but every i know in every single person i know in the up getting covid. so you the end up getting covid. so you don't want to be in the same way. yeah let's course as the effectiveness the vaccine however i do believe that our rollout was second to none. i mean we were ahead of the game. we far ahead of europe. and if we'd been tied into the eu at that point, it would have worked against us. now you say there are lots of other arguments outside that, but we're going outside that, but if we're going to use these covid task forces where they essentially project and programme managers in charge, you know people that are used to rolling out massive infrastructure programmes across , the uk and put them in charge of these types of initiatives i think is a good thing. of these types of initiatives i think is a good thing . well, i think is a good thing. well, i had a couple of questions i'd like. one, is it 22.5 million on cancer? great 20 million on obesity, but it's also 40

million on mental health, 30.5 million on mental health, 30.5 million on mental health, 30.5 million on addiction. the mental health one is questionable to me. it's not serious, me. not that it's not serious, but you really it? but can you really tackle it? yeah about a that allows yeah talking about a that allows customers to monitor mental health instantly report to health and instantly report to a doctor another gadget. doctor is another gadget. i don't want another gadget that's that's causing the health that's causing the mental health problems first or some of problems in the first or some of them but we just them certainly but then we just want bring god back into want to bring god back into society. wouldn't that solve? we need to connect the universal need to connect to the universal truth reality, which truth of reality, which i'm still work it's still trying to work out. it's a long journey, but yeah, get long journey, but yeah, so get that part yeah. no, that for part three. yeah. no, i mean what people really there's so ways in which we could so many ways in which we could live better to, to improve our mental health. i don't think a new that spent 40 million is the way record your you know your way to record your you know your mental health you know mental health changes you know notepad i'm like a big notepad do it. i'm like a big proponent people look after proponent of people look after their i'm their mental health but i'm suspicious government suspicious when the government says going to do it. says they're going to do it. i don't them it's maybe i'm it's two million pounds of two and a half million pounds of this and million on this one and 13 million on cancen this one and 13 million on cancer, probably out about cancer, which probably out about 16, think that's smaller 16, 17. i think that's a smaller percentage. of all the percentage. i think of all the things here, i guess, of course,

if you tackle obesity and mental health it's sauce, then you health and it's sauce, then you do save money elsewhere. i understand what they're trying to particularly to do that particularly with obesity being . a friend with obesity being. a friend with obesity, myself, i say, but the cancen obesity, myself, i say, but the cancer, the cancer funding needs to be much higher. i think if you get access to those treatments are available in america and other across europe . i think you can save yourself a lot of money. yeah, i'm a little concerned about the addiction part as well because no one's actually defined it really is. hitchens got in trouble once for telling chandler friends that chandler from friends that it's real, made it real, and they even made it into. matthew book into. matthew perry's book that's years. that's haunted him for years. but have time for that but we don't have time for that debate now. on to debate now. let's go on to states metro and china might not be the chilled democracy we all assume. i touched on assume. jonathan i touched on this but is more this before, but this is more detail. a reporter. it is. and i'm as you are. so a bbc i'm shocked as you are. so a bbc journalist been beaten up journalist has been beaten up and police while and by chinese police while covering a protest. i mean, that worth paying a tv licence for in itself but out of it. lawrence, a camera operator for the bbc's china bureau, was sadly and

kicked by officers while covering the anti—government covering the anti —government demonstration covering the anti—government demonstration last night. so this is a journalist who was to be press, from what i understand and he was basically just beating the out of and then taken away police in protest now this is this is pure tyranny this is this is pure tyranny this is this is pure tyranny this is that that that's unacceptable that this is going on it's completely our correct to say tyranny not only tyrannical about your pronunciation of tyranny . no, i pronunciation of tyranny. no, i mean it was held for several hours, wasn't it? bbc said that spokesperson i should say so. sorry it's tv news. don't. okay great. smashing. they said that the chinese authorities and i really do mean authorities over there don't. i said that he didn't make it didn't make anybody aware he was a journalist. so the good news, he said, oh, i'm a journalist, wouldn't have beaten the living hell out of him. and definitely telling the truth. so i think we know one we don't know about one thing. we don't count later. yes, yes, count lying later. yes, yes, yes, but i mean, isn't yes, yes. but it's i mean, isn't it just i said it previously . it just i said it previously. it's a clash of two worlds, isn't it? it's a clash. two

cultures. we're looking at this the prism of a western and our western world. so i'm at the pet shop boys summit somewhere. it must be the pet shop for the most insane or. the most insane thing about was the chinese thing about it was the chinese officials added , have sorry, officials added, we have sorry, the a no official the bbc. we have a no official explanation or apology from the chinese beyond chinese authorities beyond the claim. later claim. the officials who later released him that they had arrested for own good in arrested him for own good in case he caught covid from the crowd . a cure to shame the crowd. a cure to shame the disease saying that pretty obsessed it. i mean i did here in china there's different sort of districts and they're trying to get the covid stats as low as possible ever watched the possible if you ever watched the wire show where the police wire the show where the police always try to get their arrest stats out no matter what actually reality and actually happens in reality and this happening here this is what's happening here they're to their they're trying to get their cobicistat possible so cobicistat as low as possible so that other that outdoing each other authoritarianism pretty authoritarianism which is pretty highs. find the whole highs. but i also find the whole thing, again, like i said, very absurd that we're rightly absurd that we're we're rightly concerned about this, but we weren't concerned the treatment of protesters. of anti—lockdown protesters. absolutely. i mean, some of the that in here, like that they said in here, like drones, shouting drones, people shouting at people exactly did,

people is exactly what we did, obviously. see the sun obviously. so let's see the sun and british drug been and a british drug has been arrested. it seems like our country can't catch a break paul country can't catch a break paul. exactly. the british drugs kingpin at head kingpin reportedly at the head of cartel responsible for of a cartel responsible for a third of europe's cocaine market has been arrested in a daring raid in a mammoth operation described as historic police arrested 49 different suspected cartel members in five different countries . makes you proud to be countries. makes you proud to be british, doesn't it? sounds like a top. gee, this guy, what do think? oh, what do you think? he sold me a of top gs, so. okay this is an interesting story a big supply has been taken down. i don't know how that's going to affect my weekends, but we'll see, so one of the thing that really makes me laugh is the times and middle class drug use is they mean, you know, is that they mean, you know, middle american. middle class american. i yeah, yeah. isn't? oh no, i'm yeah. who isn't? oh no, i'm joking . and really the celebrity joking. and really the celebrity a of so the it says the shameless drug dealer had a lamborghini with the number

plate crime those people i think that might be taken straight from the simpsons think it literally might be taken from the simpsons. yeah. despite brexit very much in brexit we're still very much in single drugs market, which is great. i mean we had, we had by single drugs market, which is gretway,nean we had, we had by single drugs market, which is gretway, this| we had, we had by single drugs market, which is gretway, this was had, we had by single drugs market, which is gretway, this was alli, we had by single drugs market, which is gretway, this was all awe had by single drugs market, which is gretway, this was all a thirdid by single drugs market, which is gretway, this was all a third orby the way, this was all a third or a third of europe's cocaine market. what are we saying ? market. what are we saying? everything. and get rid of the crime syndicates. i'm not we're saying that . no, no, i'm totally saying that. no, no, i'm totally against that. germany basically to legalise drugs and turn every citizen into a drug, they may see another one like to. you'll to jim you like to weed to is very jim you like to weed plants or something in cannabis plants or something in cannabis plants in your garden do you see that? didn't see that. but but that? i didn't see that. but but i definitely i think there's definitely a differentiation between cannabis and . all right. well, and cocaine. all right. well, i would ban all you know, me, but let's say you believe in freedom . well, freedom. no, no, no , you . well, freedom. no, no, no, you don't being a libertarian. don't for being a libertarian. i'm so authoritarian. unions i'm not so authoritarian. unions we were good to my views. anyway, tues bad news anyway, tues mayo and bad news if me , you put life if like me, you put your life savings into blockfi jonathan. yes, news for almost yes, bad news for almost everything. that crypto pros everything. that was crypto pros so distressed crypto firm block

fae filed for bankruptcy as fallout of spreads . so a lender fallout of spreads. so a lender with more than 100,000 creditors was set to be acquired by sun bagman freed's firm . obviously, bagman freed's firm. obviously, that isn't happening . so the that isn't happening. so the crypto currency lender has filed for bankruptcy, blaming shocking events surrounding the collapse of fcx. so company has more than 100,000 creditors and liabilities up to 10 billion. so that obviously in a pretty tight space at the moment this is just the knock on effect of what's on to people losing confidence in this industry. as i understand it i'm not particularly bright so i don't really know but i think the idea is that people made a run on it people everyone wants their money so now they paused it and now people can't that i think yeah i mean that right i think yeah i mean for mean i'm not a top jay for me i mean i'm not a top jay so i'm invested in cryptocurrency and it's kind of washed over me is little bit washed over me is a little bit complicated by the look some complicated by the look of some stats on air and stats before coming on air and now one bitcoin is 13 and a half

thousand pounds and that's down from five k less than a year ago . and what that tells you is one of the reasons is this whole thing is built on speculation. it's different than betting it's no different than betting on match or opening on a football match or opening of casino. it's so volatile. of a casino. it's so volatile. it's no wonder these things happen. you've just infuriated half the internet without realising the reason they got in so much trouble. they had 275 million owed from fcx . and so million owed from fcx. and so when fcx, when they went and informed me, have you seen the treatment? sam bankman—fried of fcx have been getting in the media? he denies it's ridiculous so left. he made it because the second one, mike, second biggest one, mike, speculates second speculates he's the second largest donor to democrat largest donor to the democrat party. has all these party. so he has all these incredibly women elon musk incredibly soft women elon musk keeps on twitter keeps applying on twitter saying, you so saying, why are you being so nice to washington the nice to him? washington the stories all like, why? stories are all like, why? sam by side so great. despite by my side is so great. despite everything. incredible everything. but it is incredible sort absolutely sort whitewashing of absolutely make an almost sound like he was a plant that the left have put them in there and said if you could just this for us but before you do could you give

before you do it could you give the party several the democrat party several billion right. let's billion quid. yeah right. let's do the times and monkeypox back with a rebrand, presumably having failed to be scary enough the first time paul gets indeed. monkey pox will be renamed m pox the house, the world health has announced after latest outbreak led to racism and stigmatising language . the who said both language. the who said both names would be used simultaneous for the next year. so good in it. the who have simultaneously said this is racist and they're going to continue use monkey pox a racist alongside the new non—racist term and pox like other the who are phasing out name of a virus. can you imagine doing that but not the actual virus? yeah. well exactly. could you imagine doing any you imagine doing that with any other racist i'm not going other racist term? i'm not going to not going say any. but to i'm not going to say any. but we're going phase them we're not going to phase them out year. are we we're out over a year. are we we're just if it was the irony of this is if you think monkey pox racist the chances are you're racist the chances are you're racist you're making racist because you're making comparison and we

comparison in your head and we know a comparison is and know what a comparison is and it's until read this it's not until i read this story, i hadn't even put those things together. but mean, and things together. but i mean, and pox cool. have the pox does sound cool. have the empire back. empire strikes back. i mean? originally they were originally i hear they were going soften brand monkey going to soften brand of monkey pox calling it cheeky monkey pox by, calling it cheeky monkey pox. yeah. monkey pox really catch on that they tried it to i mean a sceptic would say tried it too soon after covid it didn't catch on and they just, you it just faded i you know, it just faded away. i was wondering was wondering was wondering i was wondering what happened to monkey pox but it's rebrand. it's back with a rebrand. pox the back, by the the empire strikes back, by the way, is pure satire. all viruses real? so that's the two real? so that's the part two after break. elon musk to after the break. elon musk to war. brings in the war. the nhs brings in the robots and china sends in the sex bots. it all makes sense. trust see antibodies .

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and paul cox to top who are available at short notice tuesdays telegraph and a sportsman is set to defy fifa wearing the one love armband and thus ending world oppression. jonathan he's done it. he's finally done it. so uk sports minister will defy fifa by wearing one love armband at england versus wales game in qatar . england versus wales game in qatar. britain's sports minister will risk the wrath of world with the ref is quite cool. like mel by name. i know britain's full minister well i think a great britain sports minister will risk the television time. a world cup host, qatar by wearing a one level armband during england's match with wales. so mr. is the uk's mr. andrew, who is the uk's first openly gay sportsman minister, will follow suit the department of digital culture, media and sport, have confirmed so basically, as we know homosexuality is illegal in qatar it's punishable up to up to three years imprisonment. so i guess it is actually you know it's a real it's a relaxed defiance. you are you are

actually of putting your money where your mouth , so to speak, where your mouth, so to speak, and you all agree to an extent, i think. good on him. why not? what i would say is there's no risk him doing it. no risk whatsoever . he's not risk him doing it. no risk whatsoever. he's not going to be escorted out the stadium. other people within the stadium, people within the stadium, people the bbc, for people working the bbc, for instance, scott, was instance, alex scott, she was hers and know, good for too. hers and you know, good for too. but no risk in. right. but there's no risk in. right. so there's no protest without risk would been risk there would have been a risk there would have been a risk and would have been a proper protest. i think if harry kane fulfilled it. right. i understand from footballing and sporting perspective . why, why, sporting perspective. why, why, why? he didn't and i'm glad he didn't because i want the focus to be on the sport that's my perspective on this. but you're going to stand up for weeks and months and make lots of political gestures. you need to fulfil them. do you think the sort of warm love on board even speaks for gay people? because, you know, i mean, i look at it and well, there's lots of gay people i know who don't go for the whole kind of rainbow, the lgbtq+ thing just don't lgbtq+ thing they just don't identify of that. in

identify with all of that. so in a it just like isn't a way, isn't it just like isn't it pushing a political agenda on, i mean, not not to come across to qatar, but i mean, across to pro qatar, but i mean, do actually believe this do you actually believe in this armband the first armband thing in the first place? particularly mean place? not not particularly mean it's difficult not to get swept with what stands for, but it does feel like a little bit an empty gesture, like , say it like empty gesture, like, say it like with all of these things, it's is virtue signalling . now, the is virtue signalling. now, the only way this becomes something that isn't virtue signalling, if someone stands by their guns, i do , i know what you're saying. do, i know what you're saying. so there has been this obviously there's of , i guess, there's been a lot of, i guess, lgbt promotion and pr and everything like that. and now we're in a country where actually the is rebellious. it is, you know, kind of sticking it to the homophobic man such that the now is the time to do it. well although wasn't it when i mean . well, just quickly and i mean. well, just quickly and honestly, it was a bit odd when england kneeled and the us i didn't. i mean because george floyd george floyd died in

america several ago so we kneel and don't that was the sort and they don't that was the sort of peak virtue signalling world cup yeah and it it's cup moment. yeah and it is it's not getting much of a mention ehhen not getting much of a mention either. seems really odd me either. it seems really odd me now nick, what's going on there. yeah all right. i'm going to start watching football as to sticking with the telegraph and our leader, musk is our new leader, elon musk is going war with apple. paul going to war with apple. paul yeah. apple threatened to yeah. apple has threatened to withhold from its apple withhold twitter from its apple from its app store . elon musk from its app store. elon musk has threatened to war with apple after the iphone maker of stifling free speech and threatening to block its app. firstly, from my opinion , firstly, from my opinion, twitter, sorry apple aren't going to do this again looked at the stats came okay . and 7.1 the stats came okay. and 7.1 billion view is used there are 7.1 billion views of twitter last month and that's up month on month on year. now for all its woke signalling , apple on month on year. now for all its woke signalling, apple is a capitalist venture. it is a

capitalist venture. it is a capital company and they're not going to want to miss on this. this is just the reaction. another empty threat . i'm not another empty threat. i'm not sure. i'm not sure because we've seen already many big advertisers pulling their ads from twitter and big media agencies say you should all pull your ads like mcdonald's. they get these ad agencies and they say you all need to pull your ads. and you apple is most ads. and you know apple is most says apple has mostly says here apple has mostly stopped advertising on twitter do speech in america. do they hate speech in america. quite and quite provocative question and even poll should even put out this poll should apple censorship apple publish all censorship it's its customers it's taken against its customers and it is so bizarre we have this big tech i oh you're saying that apple's rich that apple's apple's so rich already have this agenda already they have this agenda they're threatened by elon they're so threatened by elon musk in this new era where musk or in this new era where musk or in this new era where musk is sort of single handedly trying to save free speech we might with twitter being might end with twitter being this he's talked this everything that he's talked about payments about where we'll have payments on it'll be like a bank. on that it'll be like a bank. you'll content verses you'll have video content verses this sort of big tech giants and it will be, you know, the more the alternative needed. but it will be, you know, the more tithink alternative needed. but it will be, you know, the more tithink applenative needed. but it will be, you know, the more tithink apple and e needed. but it will be, you know, the more tithink apple and those fed. but it will be, you know, the more tithink apple and those are but it will be, you know, the more tithink apple and those are they i think apple and those are they really do seem to be in that game censorship. what do you

think i think if the think tells them? i think if the reason why apple do want to not allow people to download twitter on their phones will they'll stop updating it is for ideological grounds and yeah that that's a real problem i mean , i guess as a private mean, i guess as a private company they should be, i guess allowed to make whatever decisions they want within the law. but at the same time, itamar , just from from my itamar, just from from my understanding, he's just trying to a platform for free to make it a platform for free expression. and they also will moderate to an extent. so anything particularly harmful, illegal will be did you see that musk said he's even prepared to make his own phone if necessary. yeah saw isn't that cool? yeah saw that. isn't that cool? would buy the musk phone? it would you buy the musk phone? it will be a charging station near me. pay $8 a month. me. we have to pay $8 a month. we know that. i'll probably give it i mean, i've bought it a go. i mean, i've bought a tesla this of my. but they have to make only software for it . to make only software for it. it's quite funny how the just be the twitter phone would not only be i guess twitter it is just elon musk tweets nothing else on it. isn't it amazing how they

all love them, all this sort of media establishment the celebrities they all love the when he did because oh it's green it's climate and when green it's climate and then when he twitter we had of he did twitter we had a bit of free speech. like stephen free speech. people like stephen king, loved king, a meltdown. i loved him with tesla, sure about with tesla, but not sure about his new twitter thing. it's like, why? because it goes against your political biases. he's barely anything he's barely done anything ehhen either, right? like getting a knickers right twist knickers in a right twist over twitter. it's all twitter. right. and it's all about he's to about the fact that he's to unblock certain accounts . we all unblock certain accounts. we all know those accounts know what those accounts are, but the good ones, the ones the reason that we used to use. but i apple are doing elon musk's for him by doing this. all right let's the times and rolls—royce and easyjet have teamed up in the most natural since facebook on a much worse cheaper face jonathan so rolls—royce and easyjet test so rolls—royce easyjet test so rolls—royce easyjet test so rolls—royce easyjet test is breakthrough for hydrogen and air travel . so the hydrogen and air travel. so the hydrogen and air travel. so the hydrogen jet engine has been successfully tested. boscombe down and i'm sorry, wiltshire . down and i'm sorry, wiltshire. so easyjet has contributed its operational understanding of

consumer air flying to the project while rolls—royce has used its expertise in developing engines . so used its expertise in developing engines. so yeah, there seems to be this collaboration between these two giants of and travel and i think it's a it's a leap forward pulling a straw. they know it's a leap forward. air travel it's a is by using hydrogen is bringing them closer to their net zero goals and tell us a passion subject for you jonathan leading sentence easyjet has contributed its operational of consumer air flying is a long sentence. yeah i think they should have been inverted comic inverted over operational understand i mean what a pairing by the way what a pairing. rolls—royce and easyjet , the good that finally come . a , the good that finally come. a match made in amesbury , by the match made in amesbury, by the way, is wonderful . the only way, is wonderful. the only british one, of course, near stonehenge lovely bakery is stonehenge. okay? yes i talk about that. yeah, it's. it's got nothing to do with stonehenge. i mean, hydrogen's. great its only product think it's

product is water. i think it's cheaper produce than petrol. cheaper to produce than petrol. you say hydrogen , quite you say hydrogen, quite controversial. pro hydrogen fans. this is why people come to tv platform to take the hydrogen stuff. but you're making a serious matter. oh well, i was going to attempt a serious point and that is that i think we should have all all forms of energy on the table. and hydrogen is a great one. there a number of reasons. okay one thing i thought a bit funny aboutis thing i thought a bit funny about is we want dwell on the story too much lines and they don't of course pain but grant shapps everyone's favourite politician the uk is politician said the uk is leading global to leading the global shift to guilt flying. already guilt free flying. i've already achieved that. i mean i actually fly, if did it would be fly, but if i did it would be do. left the country for six do. i left the country for six years, but if i did it would be with it sounds guilt with no guilt. it sounds guilt all right. let's do that. she left the dog at home. want left the dog at home. you want less? left your dog home. less? you left your dog at home. there that. don't have a there is that. i don't have a dog so i'm covered the dog either. so i'm covered the and the robots are coming to change your bedpan poll that i did. robots the did. yeah exactly. robots the nhs look to robots nhs should look to robots to plug nhs should look to robots to plug staffing gaps. health

plug staffing gaps. the health secretary as looms. and secretary has said as looms. and that's this all that's really what this is all about, steve barclay said the health to make health service needed to make far more use of artificial . far more use of artificial. that's just what we need, isn't more automated robots in the nhs. have you ever tried to make an appointment recently? it's trying to visit the wizard of oz. i know we sort of started . oz. i know we sort of started. we need the immigrant workers to plug we need the immigrant workers to plug the nhs up. even that it was even they can't speak engush was even they can't speak english now. it's just robots. so what do you think? well, my wife uses a robot to plug her gaps, so , carrie, i'm basically gaps, so, carrie, i'm basically what i think. i think if i. if used efficiently and properly and know it's eventually become cheaper and it's more accurate , cheaper and it's more accurate, for example, you know, we can't be luddites. we can't stand in the way of progress if it it works and does a job. fantastic like we have, you know, cheaper everything because it's made by robots quite sinister i robots quite sinister doesn't i mean sometimes think whole of mean i sometimes think whole of the 2020 stuff was about getting us to being sort of phased us used to being sort of phased out home, get out and to staying at home, get them universal, basic because out and to staying at home, get the|robotsersal, basic because out and to staying at home, get the|robots are l, basic because out and to staying at home, get the|robots are goingc because out and to staying at home, get the|robots are going to ecause out and to staying at home, get the|robots are going to donuse out and to staying at home, get the|robots are going to do it;e the robots are going to do it all anyway. these are some

all soon anyway. these are some of and then isn't of my theories. and then isn't it sinister? what would it a bit sinister? what would robot really care if you're on life support as they decide whether turn you off or whether to turn you off or you like as a purely like to? euthanasia as a purely in utilitarian wouldn't in utilitarian terms, wouldn't definitely. . not definitely. you tend to. i'm not for really think the nhs for this really i think the nhs needs and the people need a functioning nhs nick i think there's a, there's a soft skill going to be lacking from any robot in near future and you've already mentioned it, you know what, you're, you're most vulnerable when accessing the nhs generally. i think particularly, you know . all particularly, you know. all right let's do the daily mail and i thought the way to stop lockdown process was to demonise people via the media. but turns out it's sex bots. jonathan yeah. so any of the nhs so sex used to kerb chinese covid protests accounts flood twitter racy escort ads and erotic in beijing plot to not report on ryan so a tonne spam posts advertising services have flooded twitter amir against china's covid protocols outside

the office. instead of going out and protesting will flood you with bots, you'll be just bamboos all by all these sex parts and you seem like a lady and you should be like, you know what? freedom is not good. when i've know, $25, it's i've got, you know, a $25, it's no sense it it doesn't make zero sense. i'm going to work zero covid policies what they're protesting about, which doesn't allow to outside so allow people to go outside so that they're saying is you that what they're saying is you need pay attention to the need to pay attention to the rules . if you don't do that, you rules. if you don't do that, you can pay sex. yeah, i the can pay sex. so, yeah, i the question is, could you even do that or just distracting with the idea of it like it's somebody at the end of that, you know, if you click on that link, i'm for a friend, if you click on link, will there be on that link, will there be somebody that tuck you in at night, the viewers at home, if you send links both you could send links to both jonathan i that would be jonathan and i that would be great. don't think great. but also you don't think this know when like this is you know when like you're through you're scrolling through instagram girlfriend instagram and your girlfriend looks and looks over your shoulder and it's pictures of women, it's just pictures of women, bikinis with huge thighs and i'm like, china's flooded like, oh, china's flooded my phone. never phone. it's not just i've never had over my shoulders. had to look over my shoulders. none us had that problem

none of us have had that problem too but that's all for too often. but that's all for part three in the final part, gaslighting bob dylan and evil magpies. trust me, will be magpies. trust me, it will be good see you and. see? but it

welcome back to the final of headliners. i'm nick dixon. still here with koji and cox. he as we now call them. i've got to know them over the course of the show. so tuesdays and a tobacco plant has started to produce cocaine. i mean how does that it lick itself and get on the addiction cycle pull i'm not sure that's how it works but scientists genetically modified a tobacco plant to produce cocaine in its leaves . the cocaine in its leaves. the breakthrough could lead to a way to manufacture cocaine and or produce chemically similar for medicinal purposes, obviously. yeah can i just say this was a team in a lab china. and my favourite thing is labs in china experiment? yes with new ideas .

experiment? yes with new ideas. so they don't take it to the market. do you think it's weird that a big cartel, a big cocaine cartel shut down of a sudden their plants can grow cocaine is as a good point i mean this is exactly journalist on the story behind the story i just keep asking myself why it says it says want to recreate that cocaine in the tobacco plant? i'm like, why this breakthrough could to could lead to a way to manufacture cocaine produce manufacture cocaine or produce chemically i chemically similar compounds. i mean , but they are for medicinal mean, but they are for medicinal purposes. i don't know purposes. i said, i don't know if medicinal purposes in if that's medicinal purposes in quotes medicinal quotes or actual medicinal purposes. well, yeah. i mean, they money trees, they say money grow on trees, but this one that contained a lot of money . yeah. medicinal lot of money. yeah. medicinal person who uses cocaine for medicinal purposes whatever looking me while you're trying genes fun to avoid breaking more broadcast regulations after the last section i to out on this story jonathan yeah you know just cocaine is made from a leaf so it is essentially a solid b healthy people . all right. healthy people. all right. sticking with the male gaslighting is name the word of

2022. i don't even think it's a real thing. it's all in your headi real thing. it's all in your head i think jonathan i think i think it might be so yeah gaslighting is named the of 2022 according to the merriam—webster according to the merriam—webster according to the merriam—webster according to merriam—webster after searches on his website soared 1740 percent in a year so there wasn't a event which drove there wasn't a event which drove the spikes in the curiosity people in this word but it was just a general search over the andifs just a general search over the and it's really kind of grown and it's really kind of grown and become main term that people have such so gaslighting causes the victim to question the validity of their own perception and their view of reality . and and their view of reality. and it leads to loss of confidence and self—esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional and mental stability and dependency on the perpetrator . so it's a kind of perpetrator. so it's a kind of nasty, nefarious thing to do. and it came from a play 1938, written in 1938, which had a story where a husband attempts to drive his wife insane by other things, dimming the gas lights in the house and claiming

she's imagining. lights in the house and claiming she's imagining . so he's she's imagining. so he's basically psyching her out. yeah yeah. and what's interesting about this even admits about this story even admits that it's just a personal thing that it's just a personal thing that and politicians that the media and politicians now it. that's quite now use it. that's quite surprising to see the admit surprising to see the male admit the media. say it's a tool the media. they say it's a tool used relationships used by abusive relationships and in other and by politicians. in other news that he's making is basically because, as this news cycle in the media, there's no where it says it's not happening. it's not happening. they switch to it's happening, but it's good thing. and that's a kind of meme online because they've to so many they've done it to us so many times. they've just let us saying it's not the covid lab leak whatever it is. leak theory or whatever it is. you i mean, they they say you don't i mean, they they say it's it's not, it's not. it's not. it's not, it's not. then it is we all then suddenly it is what we all thought was. and then we're thought it was. and then we're allowed to know that. and that's gaslighting for what you think stifles debate, it? stifles all debate, doesn't it? it's brilliantly. home it's worked brilliantly. home with i you with mrs. cox. i mean, i you know, she says something know, every she says something to me. have switched from to me. i have switched from saying, made that you saying, you've made that up. you must to gas. to must heard it wrong. to gas. to what the victim. what supplying the victim. now i'm now victim several times i'm now the victim several times a i'm really relishing a day and i'm really relishing that not a word

that position. it's not a word that position. it's not a word that used too much, i'm that i've used too much, if i'm honest even with mrs. cox, it's been it's used been used you. it's been used about me. no, it hasn't been used. the itself has to be read , you know, misremembering that. but it's been around since 1938. when, when was the first time you heard this word, that kind of it must take not that long ago. maybe maybe like seven years ago. so say you're woke and i am so. no, i, i think i had in the literal sense i was trying look up how to make somebody go crazy because. they were bothering me and i came across. so they say it's been around since the sixties. really. it's amped up a lot recently in light of the media doing to as far more. that's doing it to as far more. that's what's stifles debate what's basically stifles debate is yeah. all right is what it does. yeah. all right let's times and bob let's see the times and bob dylan is in trouble for using a machine to his signature. wait till find it wrote till they find out. it wrote half paul i think bob half the songs paul i think bob dylan just means no. dylan farrow am just means no. joe i wasn't a fan. joe oh no, no. i wasn't a fan. i i'll, i'll write a tweet about it was. an error of judgement on bob dylan apologises for using machine autograph signed machine to autograph signed books blaming vertigo in the

pandemic nice bob the book was in november with limited run a 900 hand signed on sale for about 600 quid now i think you know bob dylan's 81 i think the only thing i don't like about this is, he, he or his publishers felt, the need to blame it on vertigo or the pandemic. he could have just said i'm too tired and too knackered i don't want to have to do this. doesn't them to do this. that doesn't them not editions if you've not limited editions if you've got machine written bob got a machine written bob dylan's signature one of these limited edition books you still got one of those books. it's still a machine. he's still got i mean, still other machines. first he uses the electric guhan first he uses the electric guitar, then he uses an electric autograph machine . judas is what autograph machine. judas is what i say . there was actually i say. there was actually a suggestion going round from fans that he should actually now sign these second time. but these books the second time. but then , think then they said, think twice. it's right. oh you got it's all right. oh you got another massive episode . bob another massive episode. bob dylan's songs. are you a big dylan's songs. are you a big dylan fan, dylan? who's the better? cohen ? cohen

better? dylan or cohen? cohen i dylan. dylan musically i prefer dylan, but lyrically, i mean, it's a tight a tight one lyric. they're both great. i just a half the country with that reference they're going what's he talking about let's do the daily style this is a more one. a story about magpies. apparently it's one for sorrow, two for joy, and three to remember face. then pick remember your face. then pick your out. jonathan so your eyes out. jonathan yeah. so this reason why i'm this is another reason why i'm scared birds so evil magpies scared of birds so evil magpies that remembers injure that remembers faces injure hundreds they don't hundreds people if they don't share so victoria state share food. so in victoria state , southeast australia there are . reg , southeast australia there are. reg in 2022, with 447 injuries as a result, including instances where magpies gouge people's and swoop on kids. so extremely aggressive magpies in australia . but john the beaks in people's chase cyclists and gouge children's for the closure of pubuc children's for the closure of public spaces every year and the problem the planet getting worse and worse. it's also terrifying this is this is this line by the middle if you think a magpie has it in for you, you're probably

that's how i feel about if you're comedians. yeah it's quite disturbing and that's why they're telling it chop what they're telling it chop what they say . my favourite is when they say. my favourite is when they say. my favourite is when they stare down. the they say stare it down. the magpie website is a great magpie alert website is a great site by the way, suggests wearing sunglasses and facing down the birds as they usually attack. away so they attack. people look away so they kind like gangsters they attack. people look away so they kind they;e gangsters they attack. people look away so they kind they respondters they attack. people look away so they kind they respond like they like. they respond like i contact and strength. but if you look just for your look, they'll just go for your eye, which is absolutely terrifying i don't think this is unique to magpies over my most hungry australia and australia extra keenly aggressive. but this things like birds with hitchcock didn't strike the fear to me it was a thriller but it fascinated me. i would be worried if they're attacking the eyeballs that's a bit of a concern. i reckon i could take three or four magpies at once, cover eyes like that, and just switch that on tv. yeah, that's because of watching john. yeah. you might . so what are they that you might. so what are they that don't watch tv isn't it where they it. if you don't share your

food, if they see you shaking. well they communist magpies are they you're not showing your they see you're not showing your food, actually for you food, they'll actually for you as happened have you as this have happened have you been attacked bird in the been attacked by a bird in the street? pigeons. street? jonathan pigeons. pigeons been to. have pigeons i've i've been to. have ibeen pigeons i've i've been to. have i been straight? have had i been straight? no, i have had a seagull flying to my flat once and i had to get out with i'm good. but didn't peck good. okay. but it didn't peck you all right. well, you in the eye. all right. well, that was probably not that story was probably not great, but let's with the song and uplifting story about and an uplifting story about a zombie virus, paul my zombie virus, paul oh, my goodness. that's just what we need disease x pandemic need it. new disease x pandemic fear as zombie. pandora's virus revived . 50,000 years trapped revived. 50,000 years trapped under frozen lake . this is in under frozen lake. this is in serbia, by the way . the disease serbia, by the way. the disease found trapped a lake bed in yahoo! tier for 48 and a half thousand years is believed to be the oldest live virus to be recovered so far. i think this is a result of climate change think that linking the two things in single celled organisms and isn't is not to

pose a threat . humans experts pose a threat. humans experts say and we can always trust experts and we should change the name of the zombie virus a fence. what about zombie virus? yeah sea pox? yes. what you think tells them this is the new deadly. they need to leave. well, the thing is that light story, to end on this kind of story, to end on this kind of story, saying, you story, they're saying, you know, that it's something to worry about, but also it has absolutely nothing worry about. so, once a virus so, you know, i once got a virus from pandora's box, but was from pandora's box, but it was andifs from pandora's box, but it was and it's the whole thing and it's like the whole thing here is just too scared. i think the problem is there might actually viruses under actually be deadly viruses under eyes. let's on eyes. so that's let's keep on this. let's work panic. yes. all right . well, that was a very right. well, that was a very uplifting and i think that's it for tonight guys, thanks to jonathan cogan and cox for filling in. they put in a thumbs up 0 legends. i've dixon of course we are back tomorrow 11 pm. we've also got the 5 am. p.m. we've also got the 5 am. four p. it was all very complicated but make sure you watch as either pm or 11 pm. or on youtube. so many places to

watch. but for good night and god bless . watch. but for good night and god bless. i'm watch. but for good night and god bless . i'm still watch. but for good night and god bless. i'm still going to say god bless guys .

tonight, we'll discuss the migrant crisis as over 400 across the english channel today . is the government any closer , . is the government any closer, any form of solution, energy policy , new splits emerging policy, new splits emerging among us mps and some real questions about smart metres in your home. and joining me on talking pints tonight john , the talking pints tonight john, the former us ambassador to , the un. former us ambassador to, the un. he was national security with donald trump. we'll be talking china. we'll be talking . we'll china. we'll be talking. we'll be talking russia . and, of be talking russia. and, of course, the war in ukraine. i'll

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