the census figures show a massive change in the british population . millions no longer population. millions no longer saying that are christian. i ask the question are we losing our identity taxes put on businesses , this government doing damage. we an exclusive gb news report for you. i'll talk about balenciaga and why the press haven't commented. and joining me on talking pints model and wife of rolling stone, guitarist wood. joe wood , i'm looking wood. joe wood, i'm looking forward to it. but first, let's get the news which. tatiana

sanchez. get the news which. tatiana sanchez . thank you, nigel. this sanchez. thank you, nigel. this is the latest from the a man who's been arrested in gloucestershire in connection with the deaths of at least 27 people who drowned in the engushin people who drowned in the english in a dinghy last year. 32 year old jerome ahmed abu bakr , accused of being a member bakr, accused of being a member of , a gang bakr, accused of being a member of, a gang behind the crossing . of, a gang behind the crossing. two people survived. four are still missing. he's to appear at westminster magistrates court tomorrow . an error at a lab tomorrow. an error at a lab which told thousands of positive covid cases reported a negative could have led to the deaths of . 20 people. investigate it as the uk health security say the mistake of the wall for hampton lab meant nearly 40,000 pcr tests were wrongly reported between september and october yeah between september and october year. researchers also estimated almost 700 additional hospital admissions that may not otherwise have . bosses at the

otherwise have. bosses at the hhs say they fully accept the findings and recommendations made in the report . findings and recommendations made in the report. ukraine's first lady has told the opening a russian war crimes exhibition in london. the exhibit document the atrocities committed by russians soldiers across ukraine. earlier elena zelenskyy spoke to mps in westminster and highlighted the ongoing torture and violence president zelenskyy's wife likened russia's invasion . the second russia's invasion. the second world war. china's ambassador to the uk has been summoned to the foreign office over diplomatic row following the arrest and alleged beating of a bbc journalist covering covered protest . a heavy police presence protest. a heavy police presence has been reported in several cities in china to deter further protests after unrest over the weekend. well, earlier today , weekend. well, earlier today, the foreign office minister answered , an urgent question on answered, an urgent question on the matter . he says the uk the matter. he says the uk

government is demanding a full and thorough explain nation over the arrest of ed lawrence , a the arrest of ed lawrence, a section of new online safety bill has been removed following criticism . some conservatives criticism. some conservatives that , it criticism. some conservatives that, it posed a risk to criticism. some conservatives that , it posed a risk to free that, it posed a risk to free speech. the amendment means big tech social media sites will no longer required to remove harmful material if it's deemed to be legal . harmful material if it's deemed to be legal. the harmful material if it's deemed to be legal . the online safety to be legal. the online safety bill is due to return to parliament next after being repeatedly . the foreign repeatedly. the foreign secretary is accusing president putin of trying to freeze the ukrainians into submission . ukrainians into submission. speaking at a meeting nato foreign ministers in bucharest james cleverly said russia's war was destined to fail to the resilience of the ukrainian . resilience of the ukrainian. ministers at the talks are looking for ways to support military and keep civilian safe. despite constant blackouts and heating shortages . and wales heating shortages. and wales have just kicked off in their

final group b match at the cup to get through to the wales must beat england . hope the usa draw beat england. hope the usa draw with iran . meanwhile, gareth with iran. meanwhile, gareth southgate's side are looking to bounce back from their draw with the us and qualify top of the group tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. now it's back to our . to our. seat . good evening. the office seat. good evening. the office national statistics today gave the updated census figures they show. very big and very rapid changes. show. very big and very rapid changes . england and wales in changes. england and wales in our population and indeed in our beliefs . let's just run through beliefs. let's just run through some of the headline numbers . some of the headline numbers. only 46% of england wales identify as christian . identify as christian. christians are now in a minority something that would have been

completely unthinkable just 20 or 30 years ago. in terms of demography itself, london is now 7% white. birmingham is 43% white. manchester is 49% white. three biggest cities in and wales are now white. minority cities . that wales are now white. minority cities. that is a wales are now white. minority cities . that is a massive, cities. that is a massive, massive , rapid change. and one massive, rapid change. and one in six britons are now born overseas. that's up from one in eight just in the space of a few years. so immigration is clearly fundamentally changing the make up and nature of the country and that of itself is . perhaps not a that of itself is. perhaps not a surprise . before i get to the surprise. before i get to the christian , the evidence i have christian, the evidence i have announced and by the way thank you to the very very keen viewers and listeners to this programme who bombarded me about the office of national statistics changing the rules. well you were all right. i've had it confirmed by the evidence

themselves that in future , the themselves that in future, the next time these figures come out , they will not publish. they will not. the question of where people were born. they want to hide the truth from . you and hide the truth from. you and that really? i genuinely believe that really? i genuinely believe that this needs to be very big news story . i hope that the news story. i hope that the newspapers up on that because i was shocked to find that out. but real heart of my discussion tonight is are we losing our identity ? does it matter? let me identity? does it matter? let me know your thoughts? farage at. well i think it does matter because frankly everything that western civilisation was built on was judeo christian culture. the ten commandments in a sense being the fundamental basis for . all of our laws, our constitu nation, we were built and founded as a christian country. now, that doesn't mean anyone's forced to say they're christian, but to see this drop in just years from 59% of the population

to 46? that is a very dramatic fall . what's it down to? i have fall. what's it down to? i have to say i believe personally that it is a fundamental weakness in the leadership, especially of the leadership, especially of the church of england . regular the church of england. regular viewers of this program will know my views on justin welby. i've never exactly hidden , but i've never exactly hidden, but it's almost as if right throughout the of england they're almost embarrass by their faith. they're almost embarrass by theirfaith. it's they're almost embarrass by their faith. it's as if hiding under the covers. they don't want to discuss these things evenin want to discuss these things even in school, which call themselves church of england schools. there is now a lack of motive assembly, a lack of prayers, a lack of teaching. and |, prayers, a lack of teaching. and i, i think, you know, children should actually have those things so they can choose when they're older to accept or reject those ideas . this is part reject those ideas. this is part , i think, of the failure of the institutions of this country. i think our politics is failing us, but the church in particular

is us. so please let me know your thoughts to widen out this . i'm joined by andrew williams , chief executive of christian concern. good evening and thank you . and by the reverend of you. and by the reverend of bungay. and you are a leader of the freedoms church. both of you christians. andrea, i want start with you. does it matter that we're no longer a majority christian country . it does christian country. it does matter because as you've said our history, our constitution our history, our constitution our history, our constitution our history, everything we're rooted in that which has given us freedom , which has given us us freedom, which has given us a flourish and civic community, which been longed for across the world. nations across the world have looked to as a society of toleration , of society of order. toleration, of society of order. are parliamentary systems, our health systems , our democratic health systems, our democratic systems are all rooted. they are all anchor in christian values precepts, as you said , the ten precepts, as you said, the ten commandments. i remember as a young barrister going in out of the courts, the ten commandments, very written on

written on the walls of the courts. you know , bible always courts. you know, bible always very evident. and indeed, when i was studying the reference to the within all the press potential law that we've had historic the formation of our systems mean even when we think about the queen and her recent passing the constitution had leader of course you know to defend the defendant. i mean i suppose the counterargument is that countries change countries evolve. and by the way, human can be very good people to a truth is there is it not. the truth is there is it not. the truth is there is it not. the truth is this that the great thing about christianity is it never coerces . it creates never coerces. it creates a freedom whereby people can accept can reject because the great essence of christianity is a toleration and respect for our common humanity and forgiveness and forgiveness which i think is and forgiveness which i think is a very important element in a

world of culture. i think forgiveness is actually quite important. niels is very interesting because, you know, you part of the evangelical movement and from what i of what i can see , you know, driving i can see, you know, driving through south london on a sunday round about midday , i see people round about midday, i see people from all backgrounds in terms of where they were born, but dressed up to the day . the big dressed up to the day. the big flowery dress is a little kids in their sunday best. from what i can see, the churches are doing quite . yes. whereas the doing quite. yes. whereas the established church of england in terms of attendances is collapsing. what do you put down to? i think that one of the things that you find within the evangelical movement is the practise of christian is quite pivotal . and the declaration of pivotal. and the declaration of faith evangelism as core to our belief system is , is, is what belief system is, is, is what you see exercised within the evangelical movement. i'm part of the evangelical council in

the united kingdom . and whilst the united kingdom. and whilst we these statistics to be a point of concern, we also that when it comes to in christianity there isn't. we've looked at some of the statistics there's an it demise on but like you've alluded to those who normally say they're christians who they may not be practising but they say we are christians, the c of is church. absolutely. they millions of stop saying that . millions of stop saying that. why? well, i think that we need to regain that sense of ownership that ownership our faith to . not and there's faith to. not and there's a boldness that needs to exist . boldness that needs to exist. and you know, let's go back to the of that word, christian. yeah the word christian was in the book of acts chapter 11, verse six. it was about, i think, the first six or one of the verses within acts 11. it was given by others to those who were followers of jesus. so it wasn't those who nominated

themselves to say, i'm christians actually in the first entry called themselves the way from when said i'm the way, the truth and the life. they were followers of the lord jesus. the day after doctrine. day followed after doctrine. they lived up to his. it day followed after doctrine. they lived up to his . it wasn't they lived up to his. it wasn't about nominating themselves to say, we are christians people saw their lifestyle like seen in accept a forward peter and john. they said they perceive their own learned men but they had been with jesus . but but what is been with jesus. but but what is the message you about this? and i watch you and i see your body language . do you believe in this language. do you believe in this and you're a happy clappy. i don't mean that a drill. i am happy and i do clap . but let's happy and i do clap. but let's show . do you? but but the point show. do you? but but the point i'm getting to here , you know, i'm getting to here, you know, in parts of this country we say happy interval. yes. we don't say christmas because we might offend . this is this is the offend. this is this is the argument that being put that if we stand up for what was traditionally the majority

belief system in this country we will somehow others . i put it to will somehow others. i put it to you, andrew. i think much of the reason millions no longer identify is to a large extent we are of how we are brought up and means parents. but it also means schools . is it possible the is schools. is it possible the is around or has it gone too far ? around or has it gone too far? well, we've all things are possible. and i think that it's and i but i also think that it's and i but i also think that it's a moment it's a moment to for those of us that really are christian and for those churches that are growing to really speak to speak out clearly into society to the truth and the hopeis society to the truth and the hope is found in jesus christ, the structure, who is going to do . that's why i think do. that's why i think i understand both of you, your passion. but who is going do it? and that's being the archbishop welby going to do well, i think the is that the part of the problem is that the part of the problem is that the church for many the established church for many decades has been unclear on decades now has been unclear on the message of the gospel. so i have when we go into the

courtroom at the christian legal centre is have judges that cannot say what a christian believes marriage to be for instance, because the church england has not been clear on or that the judges might be confused about what the church of england position is on transgenderism, because the catholic is clearer on these things . but catholic is clearer on these things. but our established church, the established church of england , has not been clear of england, has not been clear now for many decades. and i sometimes think that the people are longing for bishops simply to be bishops to say what they expect them to be. i couldn't agree more, which is that jesus the way? i couldn't agree more. i can i can i say go ahead. going you the final word going to give you the final word in . so i think we in this debate. so i think we all agree that there is a lack of . there a of of courage. there is a lack of moral, spiritual leadership that is coming from the top in our established church that permeates through the education system , that even actually system, that even actually across the road in parliament, you know , we don't do god was you know, we don't do god was what campbell very nicely said.

i remember that all right whereas in america they're not ashamed at all to talk about whatever faith are. can we turn this around? and if so, who's going to do it? i think there is a response of us, and a response from all of us, and that includes you and me. okay, so deal with the fact that so let's deal with the fact that there's educational reform , there's educational reform, 1988, that is as mandate free for us to for prayers in schools, to happen. but what's happened, two thirds of the schools don't pray and. the church of england has said, hey, we want that to happen because we want that to happen because we don't. on the one hand, those lead, those prayers are not christians. and so they might be leading young people into a path where they're not yet decided and second thing i'd say is this what i believe so strongly is much as there may be a decline in the numbers, there's an increasing christian christian participation in public life. we're seeing many food hubs, full bans. we've a response to homelessness. we've seen a response to modern slavery. so there is a risk all yes archbishop will be has a reason to give christians christians

they might much more of that and i think that archbishop welby at the moment is doing what he he can do best but he can do more the room in all of our lives is the room in all of our lives is the room in all of our lives is the room improvement. so would the room improvement. so i would say that we to break through, we need to together, we need to demonstrate that we are a united body of , people that are at each body of, people that are at each other's throats. but we are desperate for the heart of our nation. a bit of christian optimism , both from andrea and optimism, both from andrea and from neil's . optimism, both from andrea and from neil's. i do hope you're listening. archbishop welby need to do an awful lot more , believe to do an awful lot more, believe me. now now, i couldn't resist that dig. in a moment we'll talk about this government taxing business, isn't it leading to a drop in investment in this country as predicted? it drives me . back with you in a couple of me. back with you in a couple of minutes .

so your reactions to my question , are we losing our identity ? , are we losing our identity? the light of the awareness figures ? one anonymous viewer figures? one anonymous viewer says no. it means people are getting smarter. this clearly is a very strong atheist to why christians are now in a minority . richard says the blair government has given away our country without permission of islamic countries not do that. african countries would not do that. it's a very fair , isn't that. it's a very fair, isn't it, actually, that you know , it, actually, that you know, blair's whole rap the noses of the right in diversity but they actually set out to fundamentally change the population of this . they weren't population of this. they weren't honest it at the time, but they have subsequently been. and ryan really touches on how i feel about this says, yes, we are. i'm furious that this has happened under a conservative government . what exactly are government. what exactly are they concerned ? and this is the they concerned? and this is the astonishing thing with any of these issues under 12 years of

tory rule . nothing has changed tory rule. nothing has changed from the is nothing at all. another says that was a foregone conclusion the minute we started eliminating christian in practises from schools. and i have to say i agree with that and that was very much the that we've just had now a of weeks ago we had the autumn statement . liam halligan our economics editor and i were going out around country talking to around the country talking to small , both of us small businesses, both of us railing against these increases in corporation tax . also the in corporation tax. also the very concept windfall taxes. i always thought would be bad for . liam there's a debate important taking place on this in the house of commons tomorrow. you have a gb news exclusive for us. i think tomorrow there's another debate , the finance bill. that's all the measures and autumn statement. and of course, one of the measures in the autumn statement, we statement, nigel, which we highlighted after highlighted that they've after the statement is the energy

levy. this is the so—called tax. now oil and gas companies operating in the north sea they already high taxes for a long time they pay 40% on their profits, which is much higher than the 19% of corporation tax , which is going up to 25. in may rishi sunak put that up to 65% and then jeremy hunt in the autumn statement, put that up to 75. now the press focuses on what shell says what bp says these massive oil companies to them, the north is nothing. it's a backwater , to be honest to a backwater, to be honest to most people listening to and watching this, when they hear nonh watching this, when they hear north sea, they're to think those big fish, those firms do not the north sea. it's not dominate the north sea. it's all firms dominate north all the firms dominate the north sea are small, often british oil and gas exploration , and they're and gas exploration, and they're brought together in an industry body called . windex now index is body called. windex now index is the association of british independ and oil exploration companies . and i've got here companies. and i've got here a letter that wrote to the chancellor over the weekend, and

it makes for some pretty uncomfortable reading these are the small energy that account for about 60 or 70% of the oil and gas that we currently extract from the from north sea and thousands of jobs, well—paid jobs for skilled and, semi—skilled workers and of graphic size the couple of the paragraphs from this letter if we can go to that now the first is brent exercise the chancellor the latest rise to 75. that was what was in the autumn statement poses existential risk to the poses an existential risk to the industry and with it those jobs our nation's energy security uk upstream companies , the oil and upstream companies, the oil and gas exploration and extraction and companies can no longer shoulder this extreme open ended tax burden and says index to the chancellor if we contain you down the path of the current anticipated 75% rate, further investment in, the north sea becomes unviable and so begins a rapid onset of the decline of the north sea . nigel rapid onset of the decline of the north sea. nigel this morning on gb news exclusively i

spoke to somebody called . jack, spoke to somebody called. jack, tommy . he is spoke to somebody called. jack, tommy. he is from so tailwind energy company that of these small british based companies doing their thing in the north sea . he's speaking in this clip sea. he's speaking in this clip that's coming up as a spokesman for decks that is many of the british small scale oil gas companies operating our waters. this is what he said really here today to talk about what is an h m t complete collapse of the north sea. there will capital flight and the timing . this is flight and the timing. this is very important given how strategic north sea is right now in the face of war with russia and runaway inflation . this this and runaway inflation. this this finance bill will energy costs to consumers . it will actually to consumers. it will actually lower revenues over time for the hmrc because they on the hook for £20 billion of decommissioning and that will accelerate as fields get decommissioned . well there , we decommissioned. well there, we are liam it's pretty clear, isn't it, that that you know, if

i mean, what really saying is if the oil prices through roof we can just about live with this but if the oil price is not that , we're struggling anyway. invest money is going to decline. i am stuck . and when decline. i am stuck. and when you said 60 to 70% of the north investment of effective production is from the smaller companies . i've never heard of companies. i've never heard of index. companies. i've never heard of index . yeah because the business index. yeah because the business doesn't cover them because they're not glamorous . they're they're not glamorous. they're not high rolling executives with, you know, flashy in the city of london behind your head . nigel but they are the oil and gas companies that get into the difficult to get out reserves that we need to access in order to keep those north sea going in order to preserve our energy security. now this is debated as part of the finance bill here in the house of commons tomorrow and there will many mp , i and there will be many mp, i think, who will say, of course, we to tax them and all the rest of but there be of it, but think there will be some that say . of it, but think there will be some that say. hang on, is some mps that say. hang on, is this really the right now. this really the right to do now. index as far as they're concerned, they're saying they

don't particularly say it's impossible to live with the 75% person say for some time realise that these are exceptional times . they realise that there's going to be clamour for more money . the going to be clamour for more money. the oil and gas industry, what they're saying is don't tax them on all their profits from zero all the way up. tax them on the profit that they make when oil is above $75 a barrel because that is a windfall tax. thatis because that is a windfall tax. that is a pure windfall tax rather than just giving a much, much, much higher, three times higher, even after the increase in corporation tax to 25, three times higher rate of corporation on all their profits . because on all their profits. because these aren't global companies that are operating around the world they're making huge amounts of money . if they file amounts of money. if they file in the north sea they fail jobs go and then the treasury has got to pick up a lot of the decommissioning costs of their and then we'll i think and then we'll see. i think they've been quite conciliatory. i ought to i'm being i think they ought to i'm being very more broadly. very sensible more broadly. i mean, this is one particular sector. once a chancellor of the

exchequer has introduced the very concept windfall taxes, what's stop them extending it to other industries . well that's other industries. well that's that's the deal isn't it . why that's the deal isn't it. why i'm generally concerned windfall tax. let's say what you like about new labour when they in they gave signalled for years that they were going to have a windfall particularly on the privatised utilities. it was thought through it was audited. it was discussed. they did it. it was discussed. they did it. it was discussed. they did it. it was genuinely one off from a asic seismic change in the british economy, privatising what were previously state run state funded taxpayer entities . state funded taxpayer entities. you could say fair enough because they ended it there in the oil gas industry. nigel we've had so changes underground and then particularly under osborne, the tories and then since march it's been almost a for free all going from a 40% rate of tax to a 75 rate of extra . and a lot of these small extra. and a lot of these small companies in particular they're

not shell and bp they what we call highly leveraged balance sheets. they've taken on a lot of debt in order to do this extraction. and if you keep moving the goalposts on them, their creditors will give them what we call a margin . they say, what we call a margin. they say, i want my collateral back. you have to pay me because saves the business. then they to the business. then they sink to the they well to the they send well down to the highlighting this story for educating me about the north sea. i just didn't know that i look at lehman i going to keep on this case about business. we want to thrive in want businesses to thrive in this country to produce jobs and income . now, going back to those income. now, going back to those old figures earlier yesterday was , albanian independence day was, albanian independence day quite why bedford hall thought it appropriate to fly the albanian flag? i don't know. but just along the river for me at 6 pm. yesterday evening, just along the river for me at 6 pm. yesterday evening , these p.m. yesterday evening, these were the scenes on the streets of london . and you can see car of london. and you can see car after car after car crowds of people waving , albanian flags

after car after car crowds of people waving, albanian flags. i don't quite know what were doing, apart from making a hell of a roar and stopping all the traffic and running around the streets . but surely the point streets. but surely the point about emigrate into britain is that if people integrate into the country we can a success of it. but if they choose to stand out in distinctly different groups as well. what does that do for us as a nation? what does it do for any sense of ? i think it do for any sense of? i think the whole thing is really very, very news now in moment, i am going to talk about that high and fashion brand that has done something that i regard as being utterly despicable and yet virtually no uk broadcaster will even touch the story .

well of course, it's the world cup football , by the way. it's cup football, by the way. it's nil nil between and wales as we speak. nil nil between and wales as we speak . hope it spices up a bit speak. hope it spices up a bit at some point . oh dear, oh dear. at some point. oh dear, oh dear. i dare . but of course the bbc's i dare. but of course the bbc's highest paid presenter and performer is of course you know who it is. it's guy ritchie lineker. what he's virtually saint gary, isn't he really? he is a patron for all good , unjust is a patron for all good, unjust causes. is a patron for all good, unjust causes . he is a patron for all good, unjust causes. he has been oh so critical of the fact that the world cup football is being held in qatar and the fact that qatar don't have the same level of human rights that we do. well, of course they , gary. they are, of course they, gary. they are, of course they, gary. they are, of course they, gary. they are, of course , a muslim country. and of course, a muslim country. and i wouldn't dare say that just happens to be true. they have a completely different set of values . but the what the farage

values. but the what the farage moment here, it is quite remarkable is that gary lineker , despite these criticisms for four years worked for qatar, sponsored television, he worked for one of those channels and he had point for one of those channels and he had poin t £6 million from them. had point £6 million from them. if that woke hypocrisy see i don't know what but even more serious is balenciaga . but then serious is balenciaga. but then ciara, a very high end trend , ciara, a very high end trend, fashion brand . yes, all of that fashion brand. yes, all of that cost an absolute fortune . but cost an absolute fortune. but they are, you know, patronise by many of the liberal great and the good on both sides of the atlantic they did an advertisement the other day and i am not going to show you the pictures but i'll give you the same a table with lots of sort of champagne on a child. and i mean child standing, holding a

bear dressed in bondage gear. there were other pictures of children standing on a bed, holding this highly sexualised teddy bear, another shot showed some on a table were from a supreme court judgement in america about . it wait for it america about. it wait for it child . the whole thing is child. the whole thing is absolutely disgusting . it is absolutely disgusting. it is pretty much the encouragement to a blind eye to paedophilia it is that woman awful and yet over the course of the last eight or ten days as this story has continued to unfold , we have continued to unfold, we have seen almost no mainstream coverage of this either side of , the pond initially. but then sinaga tried to blame the photographer but in the end that didn't work . photographer but in the end that didn't work. he was only following orders and today they have overnight they have actually apologised. kim

kardashian, who is of the promoters, very highly paid promoters, very highly paid promoters of balenciaga out of course one of the world's richest alive . she has said richest alive. she has said she's not all happy and she's considering her position . can considering her position. can you imagine if balenciaga outright open donors to donald trump or the movement? they would by now be subject to a massive boycott, condemned on every broadcast in the western world, and they would have been cancelled by people like kim kardashian . i have to say i have kardashian. i have to say i have to say this episode, i find particularly disturbing it seems there are some and there always have been. you know, we had them in this country in the seventies with an organisation called pie who basically said we should turn a blind to paedophilia. some of those finished up in quite senior positions in the labour government. we have some on the who want us to turn on the left who want us to turn a i suggest

a blind eye to this. i suggest that we don't. and a final on china. i was discussing this with john bolton last night . it with john bolton last night. it seems that the protest , the seems that the protest, the white sheet of paper protests , white sheet of paper protests, china are growing in pretty much every major city, posing president administration with . president administration with. one hell of a challenge . what do one hell of a challenge. what do they do? are they going to crack down hard? are they perhaps going to bend just a little bit to the protesters admit that a zero covid policy that endless lockdowns don't actually work . lockdowns don't actually work. we will see but this is certainly now looking to be as big as the tiananmen square protests , 1989, which was so protests, 1989, which was so brutally put down. we're going to watch that with interest over the coming days and weeks. in a moment it is time for talking pints. i'm going to be joined by joe wood, former model. and of course, she was for some years the wife of rolling guitarist ronnie wood . she's a little

ronnie wood. she's a little hurt. tell us about her organic life started much else. see the couple of minutes .

she welcome back it's talking pints. i'm joined by wood and i'm going to share her an organic side of joe. welcome to the program. thank you nigel to see you now it's very good now . see you now it's very good now. oh, that is good. it is good that you went into modelling. yeah when you were very young. yeah. it had sort of very success you know the sun had you as the face of the. yeah i know the rest of it. my goodness . and the rest of it. my goodness. and that must have been pretty amazing very quickly. yeah, well it was my to be a model. i was in love with twiggy at the time . and so my parents didn't have

any control over me going to london and following my dream . london and following my dream. dad hated it. he said that he thought if became a model i was going to become prostitute . going to become prostitute. judgemental parents . yeah, but judgemental parents. yeah, but anyway, i that and then i, i model up until. i was 22. i get married first 18. yes so and then i left him at 20. i had a child jamie. yep. and then i was just modelling again . and met my just modelling again. and met my next husband who turned out to be that rather well—known, ronnie wood and this incredible band the rolling stones was present for you, actually have you did ? oh, right. here it is. you did? oh, right. here it is. what a great joe wood's stone i cats that tells make a lot of sense . it must that you must sense. it must that you must have got into i know and i look at this you must got into it just the craziest of stuff. yeah

1977 and they will record he said come come paris. yep and we to paris and they started to recording some goes mick was just started out with jerry hall and it i don't know i found two easy to sort of fall into the flow of everything it was it was crazy and it was fun and it was the seventies late . and out the seventies late. and out there on the road i mean touring a hell of a lot got a toured so much at that time they toured they toured up until 82 i think. and then and keith had a big argument and didn't talk to each again until 88 and then and 89 we did the steel wheels tour and all that. i mean , it must have all that. i mean, it must have been fun. yeah, it was great. it was great fun . i don't remember was great fun. i don't remember . lots of it. thank god. i took

lots of because stoned. yeah. is it a problem, by the way? we're not encouraged this and we're not encouraged this and we're not glorifying it in any way at all. but yeah, i sort of off your head lifestyle terrible for your head lifestyle terrible for your health . well, yes. as so my your health. well, yes. as so my parents were really worried about me but i always had with it i didn't go dark you know it was i didn't do the real the stuff like keith was i kept it where i could control it. i was because a lot of people went into that and couldn't control and ended up in clinic and stuff like that. i'm very fortunate that or dying young or dying yeah yeah. i don't that addictiveness no goodness no she says that she takes well yeah i mean the old tricks you know but your lifestyle now joe and you're enthused i mean organic growing your own vegetables ,

growing your own vegetables, living in the rural countryside , this seems to be a very, very big part of you. yeah, well, from quite a young well, but in the nineties , nineties i was ill the nineties, nineties i was ill i through that i found organic food and everything seemed to make sense. put good food in you and you will stay healthy . and and you will stay healthy. and it sort of went from one thing to the other, the food. then what was i putting on my skin? and that's why i started joe wood organics, which is a organic body and fragrance and yeah. and i suppose getting that off grid farmhouse like i did, i got to come to that. i got to come to that but extremely organic for the minute if i can yeahisnt organic for the minute if i can yeah isn't the problem this yeah isn't the problem with this that for you know a couple at living in the south—east expensive house price is mortgages couple of kids you know going organic mean q fairly wedding stuff it's a wonderful

programmes on growing your own vegetable oils and doing all these things but for most people that's not realistic they haven't land even getting haven't got land even getting these days really really hard these days is really really hard isn't the trouble but if you can afford to go organic , it's afford to go organic, it's great. but a lot of people can't see. we shouldn't. it shouldn't be like we be able to be like that. we be able to afford it. should the same price as vegetables that as regular vegetables that should be . but it's not. it's should be. but it's not. it's not. it's very difficult because the way to stay healthy is to eat healthy. you're going to eat processed crap food. and you you're not your body's not going to function properly. i mean, it's very obvious when you see it, but for many people they haven't got they can't afford to which is i mean that is a real problem. the other big problem people are facing is the electricity bills are through roof, the gas bills. i know terry , i don't know people terry, i don't know how people are filling car are surviving, filling up car is pretty that you're living pretty scary that you're living off . great yeah. so how do you

off. great yeah. so how do you live or explain how you live off grid i'm you i have my own i produce my own power which from so the panels right i do a backup generator so that when i have my batteries haven't when the sun is not shining. yeah all day then my generator will kick in for hour to produce more more energy . and i have my own energy. and i have my own because have a borehole. this is like the life, isn't it? felicity kendal when i. when i first moved that everything went wrong, i thought, oh my , i've wrong, i thought, oh my, i've come from camden to the and everything went wrong, you know, the generator broke it was so the generator broke it was so the batteries had been there for god knows how many years i didn't know any of this so i spent the two years fixing everything . but you must have a everything. but you must have a lot of solar panels . i've got lot of solar panels. i've got i've got well, i've just got my new actually i've got 20 new

ones which produce more energy than my 32 old ones . but they than my 32 old ones. but they cost a fortune. yeah but mind you they what some people's bills are . my new ones cost bills are. my new ones cost 6000. okay and so somebody's people's bills are going to be 6000 a year for their electricity . and are you doing electricity. and are you doing this because you're worried about coal too and climate change but no i'm worried about climate change because the will always change and it's changed since time began . we're just since time began. we're just polluting our planet terribly. we need to clean up this planet . so we just have to be prepared for the climate change, you know we have to adapt and adapt. i'm it because i'm organic girl and i wanted to sort of do the whole thing but you've done it you seem you see but you seem to revel in it. yeah i love it. i love the pace, i love the nature

. i love waking up in the morning with the birds singing and think, what shall i dig out from my garden for dinner tonight? you're there growing and greenhouses guess and all the rest of it . i bet there's the rest of it. i bet there's a lot of people who got home from work or in cars now. got this on the radio. feeling quite jealous of you in a way so living off grid works . yes, i know how it grid works. yes, i know how it was for me and how much in terms of vegetables eat fruit of the vegetables you eat fruit how do grow how much of it do you grow yourself? a lot of it. most yourself? well a lot of it. most of it most of it, yeah. and if i don't if i don't grow it then i, i get my river fed delivery of meat and, and, but it's easy for i live alone and i can just up my vegetables a couple potatoes and some carrots and then i can make, you know, it sounds like a lovely lifestyle that you've done. you've often been the pubuc done. you've often been the public of course, over the public eye, of course, over the and you've been on strictly come dancing and you've done all these different but the these different things. but the area that, you know online

people tease you about . i know people tease you about. i know what i know . i people tease you about. i know what i know. i got people tease you about. i know what i know . i got to we got to what i know. i got to we got to talk about what you're going to say. you know, there's alien nafion say. you know, there's alien nation podcast. i mean , what nation podcast. i mean, what a title. so tell us about aliens . title. so tell us about aliens. well, i have always been had this open mind about everything, always since i was a kid. me and my brother used to say what's out what is out there? we can't be the only with people on. so we always to talk about that and then about 20 years ago, gosh, it getting bigger and bigger. that gap we were on i was with ronnie and we were on holiday in rosie fee not south america . and rosie fee not south america. and we were i was packing we were going home it's 11:00 we were i was packing we were going home it's11:00 at night. he was out there by sea and they start shouting joe, there's something weird in the sky what's he going about? and i

went outside there over the sea this thing and the lights from under were going the sea and i stood , i thought, what the hell stood, i thought, what the hell is that? he running to get his glasses. it lifted . it went to glasses. it lifted. it went to the right and shot across the sky. a speed that i have never seen anything like it. and i went . oh, my god, i've just seen went. oh, my god, i've just seen the ufo wow it was. and the next on the plane that we up the paper and it said ufo they just received stone cold. so well this particular a lot of people do see funny things so you believe the other one interestingly it's the i've always written this off as being completely crackers but. it is interesting actually in america , know, actually within , you know, actually from within there are more people giving some credibility to this . you some credibility to this. you know, we'll have to say , what is know, we'll have to say, what is life hold from here ? oh, all life hold from here? oh, all sorts of things. i'm just on my second to stoned is going to be tuesday, right . but i've started

tuesday, right. but i've started a wallpaper company with my friend . we're doing sort of like friend. we're doing sort of like based on vintage ideas , just based on vintage ideas, just stuff like enjoy yourself and enjoying myself and my family and my grandchildren and all that sort of thing. what a pleasure to have you on. talking pints it's a pleasure. thank you very much, nigel. pints it's a pleasure. thank you very much, nigel . how much you very much, nigel. how much you dnnk very much, nigel. how much you drink ? och, it's time . barrage drink? och, it's time. barrage the fire. let's see what you've got for me today. the fire. let's see what you've got for me today . michael says got for me today. michael says hungary have accused the eu of taking revenge out against the uk for voting brexit. do you think the other nations might also try to leave? look, there's no doubt about it. the northern ireland protocol was the poison pill. barnier mr. barnier, very cleverly that in there right from the start we swallowed it hook, line and sinker whatever you think of boris johnson ,

you think of boris johnson, david frost, frankly , what they david frost, frankly, what they got from theresa may was a very bad hand of cards if brexit is seen to be a success. of course other countries will leave, which is why the vindictive so—and—so's are doing best so—and—so's are doing their best not to make brexit a success sadly are idiots playing along with the game and i'm giving the country the advantages that it needs. camilla why can't we afford a house for our homeless? well, look , we can't afford well, look, we can't afford house our homeless. we should housing our homeless. i know the report that we did the other day from blackpool of homeless veterans with hotels filling up everywhere as in money we can help homeless if they want to be helped . sometimes there are helped. sometimes there are people on the street in such deteriorate or mental condition that they can't be help. there is no immediate magic wand to solving the homelessness crisis,

but is an outrage, is the unfairness that see and what i've been let down on thursday of this week again we'll see a beautiful seaside town, a tourist that has a migrant hotel . what is the impact of that going to be on that town's tourist trade next? okay. still no , bill and the football high, no, bill and the football high, very boring . stay with us. stay very boring. stay with us. stay with mark steyn . yeah, you're with mark steyn. yeah, you're quite right. by the way, about that northern ireland, 20% of all eu customs checks now in the irish sea. it's punishment. yeah every by the way, every sincere irish republican should be ashamed that the answer to the irish question turned out to michel be michel barnier. i can't wait to hear tedious shamrock fighting songs come up with about michel . we're going with about michel. we're going to try and keep it. with about michel. we're going to try and keep it . what? what to try and keep it. what? what did you say that score was nil. who? who's playing the way we know? we know we don't care

about that. we got a great show for you that's going to be far more interesting. and it's all coming after the break. see coming up after the break. see you in a couple of minutes. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here with the latest weather from the met office. some areas today kept stubborn today kept a stubborn fog. patches widely elsewhere. there's been low cloud a missed one as few spots have seen sunshine. it's mainly for northern scotland and western england, wales and northern where we've seen bright skies elsewhere. lots of low cloud . a elsewhere. lots of low cloud. a weather front approaching from the west . tuesday nights will the west. tuesday nights will bnng the west. tuesday nights will bring clouds to parts of northern that'll tend to keep the fog and frost away here. but elsewhere across the country the extensive low cloud, low further as we head into the early of wednesday. so the brighter here indicating we will see extensive hill fog and some patchy low level as well just about anywhere likely to see this the greatest chance of a frost as we start off wednesday will be scotland. a touch of frost possible elsewhere where we see cloud through night . cloud breaks through the night. actually, is another

actually, for many it is another misty start. a lot of low cloud misty start. a lot of low cloud mist and some dense fog patches. first thing that will make it tncky first thing that will make it tricky on the roads as well dunng tricky on the roads as well during the morning the low will tend to lift so fog mostly covering hills afternoon covering hills by the afternoon and there will be some brightness coming through southern england parts of wales, northern. but northern northern. but for northern ireland the freshening breeze and some outbreaks of light rain move in here the move in here during the afternoon reaching afternoon, reaching western scotland the evening some heavier for a time perhaps, but otherwise that rain fairly patchy certainly compared with a lot of the wet weather we've seen during and does seen during november and it does peter through the night but peter out through the night but elsewhere a lot of low cloud and more extensive fog. i think by dawn on thursday, especially through central and southern parts of england, east wales, really tricky on the roads thing in these areas and that fog could take some time to clear through the visibility through the so poor visibility lasting much of the day across central and southern the uk as well as eastern areas those outbreaks affecting more outbreaks of rain affecting more widely parts scotland it will widely parts of scotland it will be on and off and that will tend

to fade away by friday friday. brings with it a freshening breeze that will the fog breeze that will clear the fog but it'll turn things cooler.

hey welcome along to the mark steyn. sure. before we go any further , want to apologise for further, want to apologise for last night's mark steyn show not for being cranky and ill tempered that , worked wonders tempered that, worked wonders for the ratings , had a boffo for the ratings, had a boffo night gangbusters. i never for the ratings, had a boffo night gangbusters . i never knew night gangbusters. i never knew that the key to success was being obnoxious and unlikeable now i want to apologise for this. this me. exactly 24 hours ago. i say albanian independence . we just got the ratings for this show and 94% of our

audience,