thursday night . and this is thursday night. and this is faraj at le laude from clandeboye . but please welcome clandeboye. but please welcome your host, nigel ferrer. it was we're here in london now and the well, as times we've got the local mp , local members of the local mp, local members of the welsh , it's a big thing 48 leave welsh, it's a big thing 48 leave remain area here for tax and

projects to seem like a lively crowd . it's going to be a busy crowd. it's going to be a busy evening for all that let's get the to you on a time just back with you in a couple of minutes . tha with you in a couple of minutes. tha tatiana sanchez. this is the latest . the gb newsroom, the latest. the gb newsroom, the founder of a domestic abuse , has founder of a domestic abuse, has told gb news she felt like she was being interrogate during a reception at buckingham ngozi fulani , described comments made fulani, described comments made by prince william's godmother is un and she was shocked by her behaviour during a royal lady. susan hussey forced to apologise and resign for repeatedly asking ms. villani where she really came from . i mean, if you want came from. i mean, if you want to find out something about somebody, you ask question once or twice. once you've got the you move on. and because this whole thing is about domestic abuse , there were other

abuse, there were other questions. but when the first thing she did as well is to take my hair and move it out of the way. that's the first thing. no, hello? no, nothing . you just hello? no, nothing. you just actually, you know. and i've never done that. i've really think that we need to people's personal space ambulance times are higher now than they were any point last winter . new data any point last winter. new data shows nearly a third of patients in england had to wait than half an hour to be handed over to a&e. last week, an of 13,000 patients were also stuck in beds each day, despite being ready to be discharged . prime minister be discharged. prime minister rishi sunak's investing in rishi sunak's invest ing in social care will help ease the burden on the nhs . i want to see burden on the nhs. i want to see ambulance waiting times come down and that's why in of the difficult decisions we've had to make, we've put more money into the nhs to help address the waiting times that people are experiencing. one of the ways we're going to do that is by moving people out of hospitals, back their homes, back into the

communities and why we've communities and that's why we've invested social care, because that money help provide more capacity. and if we can free up those beds, that will some of the delays that we're seeing. gp news understands more than 44,000 migrant have crossed the channel so far this year. that's after around 200 people were intercepted this morning the overall figure significantly higher than last total and 29,000 people were intercepted a surge in the number of people to cross this week coinciding with better weather conditions . met better weather conditions. met police commissioner sam rowley . police commissioner sam rowley. he's going after corrupt officers . the force measures officers. the force measures such as an anonymous hotline have been introduced used to help identify them and to root out racism, misogyny and other toxic conduct and history is being made tonight as three women become the first all female refereeing team for a men's world cup match in qatar. stephanie frappart news if i can. karen has been named to

take charge of the costa rica, germany match that's just kicked off for her. paul was the first female to officiate at a men's world cup qualifier in march . tv world cup qualifier in march. tv onune world cup qualifier in march. tv online and derby plus radio. this is now it's back to fa. well well good evening . and we well well good evening. and we have a full house of enthusiastic people and we hear very much to test the political temperature lander to not only one of the most beautiful victorian towns in the entire united kingdom. i've been there before . it's a delightful place before. it's a delightful place to come and visit , but it voted to come and visit, but it voted 50 to 48 in favour of brexit in referendum. so it's right at the centre of national public

opinion. it's a seat that is and has for some time been held by the conservatives. but if you believe the national opinion polls , the conservatives might polls, the conservatives might be in some trouble? we'll debate and discuss all of that and the in dover and of course you know nearly 2000 have crossed the engush nearly 2000 have crossed the english channel this week it impacts here in wales and everywhere else just down the road there is a migrant hotel. i'll be discussing with the local mp and with members of the audience. but to begin, i'm very pleased we've got second term mayor carol morobe joins us here on. gb news i'm very pleased to be in your delightful town now as a first or second time visitor. you walk around and you see these carved statues. i saw the mad hatter and other figures from alice in wonderland . alice from alice in wonderland. alice in wonderland shops . what's the in wonderland shops. what's the story, carol? well to do with lewis carroll , who actually came lewis carroll, who actually came to the golgotha many years ago

and it was curtailed. but the wrote some of the book there . wrote some of the book there. and these are the characters of alice and each year. we have a missile through the town council . and we had i'm not sure the name the carver, but i think it was nick elphick. i think he did it. and as i say they did the that you get it on an app and so they wanted to sort light brighten and build up the story of alice in wonderland . so of alice in wonderland. so that's what it was all about. yeah they're lovely carvings. yes that's fantasy. but reality has to be for a town like the pandemic must have this place very, very hard because . very, very hard because. tourism, of course, a very key part of what this place is it back to normal ? how much damage back to normal? how much damage did the pandemic do , in your did the pandemic do, in your view? well, it was horrific , but view? well, it was horrific, but i think it was terrific for everybody . but we're a hotel everybody. but we're a hotel seaside resort . and, you know, seaside resort. and, you know, people lost their jobs, you know

the entertainment was nil and it was just dreadful. it was so quiet here, wherever you went, you know , just sort of had to go you know, just sort of had to go out and control, you know, just sort of had to go out and control , taking their out and control, taking their dogs out. you had to do it within a certain mile area, which was a bit dickensian. but that's how it was yeah. but it was it was really really bad. we all started to out of it now , all started to out of it now, thank goodness. but i say you touched on our beautiful goat yet, but i think that is definitely an attraction to try and do it now. and people that they ruled the town when we had covid they ruled the town when we had covm they they ruled the town when we had covid they came down from the old and so of course lots of people came see those this year and because last year obviously we restricted but it was it was just terrible for people that couldn't in the hotels that's other in town they have lost everything never ever see that again carol. what interests me about local politics, a very large number of independents not

tied to national political parties . and, you know, you parties. and, you know, you yourself are elected as an independent . why why do independent. why why do independents do so well here in london? no. well for my reason as an independent, i want to represent the people, not a party. the party has so different parties, have so many arguments amongst themselves . arguments amongst themselves. no. yes, they do . they agree on no. yes, they do. they agree on anything. and if you see in the house of commons, it's a disgrace . absolutely disgrace. disgrace. absolutely disgrace. so i'm glad that i'm an independent from my town and i left stranded. now i'm born and bred here and you know, the community we try to embrace everybody we can and that's what it's all about for me and you know, i'm not interested in bickering as they that's all they seem to do even in the welsh assembly government. they do it and you know they've got to grow up. there's people's lives and you , these people

lives on and you, these people out of poverty we've got food banks when . i was a young social banks when. i was a young social worker , you know, they've sort worker, you know, they've sort of like never thought i'd see food banks in 2022. it's absolutely shameful . never mind absolutely shameful. never mind all this business, the bills and like that, that's now people and you know , it's just, you know, you know, it's just, you know, people are living like that. well, clearly, carol, fiercely independent . guess. yes because independent. guess. yes because i know how bad people have suffered . and, you know, it's suffered. and, you know, it's a fair point. despite the problems, though, this ranks as one of the happiest places to live in wales or indeed the united kingdom. and i can say that with local politicians that have got the passion and the belief in the place that you've got no doubt you contributed to that happiness. and thank you for us here today. you for welcoming us here today. you can get.

for welcoming us here today. you can get . now, as i mentioned, can get. now, as i mentioned, just a moment ago, the hilton garden , which is just down the garden, which is just down the road , which has up to 200 beds, road, which has up to 200 beds, has it at the moment, i understand, at five people who recently crossed the english channel recently crossed the english channel, janet finch saunders, who a member of the senate is absolutely hopping mad . she says absolutely hopping mad. she says there'll be 200 by the time they finished of them will come from albania . local health services albania. local health services can't cope . she is really very can't cope. she is really very angry indeed . i wonder robert angry indeed. i wonder robert mellor, mp since 2019, what's happening in the channel impacts everywhere ? how do you think everywhere? how do you think your constituents feel about this? i think they're very unhappy and i've been very clear about this . think that the about this. think that the placing of a migrant hotel in aberconwy in the conway valley in a village of 450 people putting the hotel. i think the capacity actually is 106 maximum. but to put that in village and you're mentioning the senate as it's 200 i was

there this morning but tories always exaggerate and politicians always are the way they go but in all seriousness it's completely the wrong thing in the wrong place and everybody's very clear about that. it's far from public services . the kinds of that. it's far from public services. the kinds of things that the seekers themselves would want to use. they'd want to cash they don't access to , to cash they don't access to, transport, etc. and they're just not going to get that , that not going to get that, that place. so it's the wrong the wrong place. i've been very clear to the office about that. and the home office have acknowledged that, the acknowledged that, too. the minister that things didn't minister said that things didn't go right. the job but as robin every mp says , every mp that every mp says, it's not appropriate in my town in, my city, it doesn't work . in, my city, it doesn't work. we've got overload on dental . if we've got overload on dental. if you can get them on the nhs health services every mp says that. but here's the problem. it seems to me that you were elected on that 2019 manifesto something great majority get done and you do very but a lot of people are very brexit their

motivation was get back control of our borders laughably in the house of commons yesterday rishi, sunak said i voted brexit because i want control the borders. well, can i take a look, mate, you know, see what's going and so you may be against but in some ways you're responsible to this electorate because they when voted because they thought when voted for were going to get for you they were going to get border controls. got half a border controls. we got half a million legal people coming million net legal people coming into britain thus far this year, just over 44,000. nearly young men across the english . so it's men across the english. so it's all well , good you writing to all well, good you writing to your own ? what a tory backbench your own? what a tory backbench mp is actually going to do ? it's mp is actually going to do? it's a great question and i fully expect that this is what i've been from residents in, bulgaria in the village itself and across the constituency. and some will know who watching this perhaps that more regular correspondence frequently sir, what is frequently ask you, sir, what is this for this this going to for us, this brexit ? look, we've got to also brexit? look, we've got to also recognise that what's happened over the last two years is a series of, an unprecedented

global events and that has had an impact . can't ignore that. so an impact. can't ignore that. so one of the world's largest hydrocarbon producers decides to invade , one of the world's invade, one of the world's largest grain producers . there largest grain producers. there are repercussions of that. and then hear him out on this because because the estimates at the moment that are now some 100 million people are on the move around the world because of war, of famine, because of flooding and because of politics, because of economic migration. nobody foresaw back in the fifties when , we signed the un charter for refugees that someone in albania could on a whatever its golden buzzer flights to germany catch a bus to the french coast and then get on a small boat across then get on a small boat across the river. and it just wasn't. i'm sorry that isn't the problem. albania's a nato member, an eu applicant member , member, an eu applicant member, a destination year a holiday destination year germany processed zero row asylum claims ravenna. why don't we just put them an aeroplane and take them straight back to our base? so, so let me answer that. so issue . frankly,

that. so the issue. frankly, i agree with you. we have a return agreement with albania. i don't know why that's not being honoured. the question of to germany . be honoured. the question of to germany. be though honoured. the question of to germany . be though what germany. be clear though what happensin germany. be clear though what happens in of the european nations, the eu nations is they issue masse work visas which issue en masse work visas which hides the actual number of asylum seekers because they just work so setting that work visas. so setting that aside there is a distortion in the figures, the important point is that hundred is here in that hundred thousand you mentioned there are we have opened homes a in many case, opened our homes a in many case, 244,000 ukrainian refugees in that figure. yeah, we've opened two similar number of hongkongers , afghan and afghans hongkongers, afghan and afghans to what? isn't this the point, robert ? isn't this the point robert? isn't this the point we've been saving incredibly generous to. those who actually are living under direct threat to their lives. but what is happening in the channel is considered an outrage one last big issue i must raise you, but i think it's very important. could i think it's could be wrong. i think it's very i notice in

very important i notice that in the figures week coal imports to the figures week coal imports to the uk doubled its last year. we still need coal. you can't make steel anthracite etc. steel without anthracite etc. you talked hydrocarbon you talked about hydrocarbon bonds and the problem of the ukraine war. this country could be self—sufficient in energy. we could be a net exporter of energy. and i'm back to same point your government are obsessed net zero targets it is seen manufacture jobs leave the country and we now import energy we could be producing ourselves. do you see any prospect that changing? i do. and know i'm part of a very active group of mps within the conservative party who are pressing for realistic approach to transition. the key word is here it's all very well to have an aspiration of net zero, but to put a line in the ground and say that we are going to honour, we know what's involved. so i have, you know, plenty constituents here who live the valley here who live up the valley in rural old stonehouse is rural areas in old stonehouse is using gas now try using bottled gas now try telling them how they're going to convert a heat or how to convert a heat pump or how they're going convert their

energy supply. it's not going happen. equally , who's going happen. and equally, who's going to for it? it going to be to pay for it? is it going to be are they expected i agree are they expected for. i agree with i thousand but the with you i thousand but the government the government you know part of that know and you are part of that party government are party of government are hell bent so this is why i'm bent on this. so this is why i'm part that as i say part of that group, as i say amongst groups which are amongst other groups which are putting the pressure on government. i, been government. i i, it's been fascinating experience. they were two years to see how government works from the inside. convinced, inside. i'm still not convinced, understand completely. it does actually things actually seeing things happen and in that work. so and change in ways that work. so i would i would to people i would, i would say to people watch this space on for example, the immigration i know the immigration point. i know that legal reforms that there are legal reforms coming through. there are bits which working clear. but which are not working clear. but we to also , if we're going we have to also, if we're going to say be critical one hand, we have to accept to that predicted a pandemic. nobody predicted those the those international events the trick is how we react to it trick is how do we react to it how do adapt it and stop what how do adapt to it and stop what is not wanted excuse me and what is not wanted excuse me and what is not wanted excuse me and what is not legal. robin miller i hope you're right, but i'm not going to hold my breath on any of things. i don't think of those things. i don't think your the top has the your party at the top has the

resolve do it, but here's the resolve to do it, but here's the important thing. it's not very for conservative mp the for conservative mp at the moment with electorate moment with an angry electorate so thank you tonight for so a huge thank you tonight for coming along front of the coming along in front of the open to an unfortunate but open state to an unfortunate but welcome okay in a moment after the break i want to talk about what happened in buckingham palace last night i said why things are not repeat, not as they seem in the media this morning. back you in a couple of minutes . it .

is welcome the landmark. a lively audience now . lady susan lively audience now. lady susan hussey was a lady in waiting too. i queen and reportedly one

of her best friends she given decades of service to this country at an event last night a cocktail event last night at buckingham palace , there was buckingham palace, there was a woman in full african dress. lady hussey, perhaps not unsurprising , only asked her unsurprising, only asked her where she came from . she got a where she came from. she got a series of nod and pursued conversation . in the end, it conversation. in the end, it turns out that ngozi fulani , who turns out that ngozi fulani, who is a british citizen although of african heritage and still displaying african culture . it displaying african culture. it turns out she said she she'd been denied her national stake in what was seen to be an outright racist assault . a outright racist assault. a couple of points to make about because i thought immediately something doesn't feel right here so who is angle is a fulani. well i tell you she helps a charity . the charity is helps a charity. the charity is called sister space. let me read

you their mission statement . all you their mission statement. all charity supports black domestic violence . so if you're white, violence. so if you're white, don't apply black women domestic violence , domestic violence . and violence, domestic violence. and she says, i admire meghan for speaking out. according to clear definition it seems meghan is a survivor of domestic violence violence from her in—laws . this violence from her in—laws. this was in 2021 and i could go on, she said. i'm glad the hypocrite piers has left . well, i'm not. piers has left. well, i'm not. piers, his greatest fan, but i did think actually meghan markle, he was almost certainly right then goes on to about the jubilee . harry and meghan won't jubilee. harry and meghan won't be allowed on the balcony . it is be allowed on the balcony. it is an exclusively white balcony . an exclusively white balcony. the only black people are banned. this is racism. add to

that that her organisation has been funded by black lives matter and i'm not questioning about the stated aim . black about the stated aim. black lives matter of equality . all lives matter of equality. all i'm questioning an organisation that has proved to be deeply corrupt, that wants to effectively close funding for our police forces and bring down the entirety of the western world. and you know what's worst all. there's a full transcript part of that conversation with lady hussey. she clearly had a tape recorder on her as well . tape recorder on her as well. and my view is rather that an 83 year old woman being thrown to wolves for doing nothing more than trying to make small talk like at a cocktail party. my view is that forlani planned this right from very start. she's an anti royal anti—british marxist and it's quite wrong what has happened in the last 24 hours . you now i will have have

hours. you now i will have have , i promise you one thing. you won't hear that on any other news channel in this country tonight . now news channel in this country tonight. now i am now joined by conservative member of the senate sam rowlands. you are a regional member for the senate in north wales. sam i've got to ask you , nuclear energy, is ask you, nuclear energy, is there this government is now talking positively about nuclear energy . we've dragged our heels energy. we've dragged our heels on this for 25 years. is this potato a good thing for north wales ? absolutely. nuclear wales? absolutely. nuclear energy can make a difference to nonh energy can make a difference to north wales, not just in terms of the energy output for the country across , the united country across, the united kingdom, but still in terms of jobs in part of north wales jobs in this part of north wales , we know will have a juice , we know it will have a juice to produce energy and create lots and lots of jobs down. we could see thousands of jobs created if it happens. and charles well. further charles voted as well. further down big down in gwynedd make a big

difference here in your difference for us here in your positive, absolutely positive, your pride. absolutely approach and what we see all of us to get a show us again i'd love to get a show of hands and the audience who thinks that pushing back on with nuclear energy right nuclear energy is the right thing to for north wales. it thing to do for north wales. it is a idea. that's right, is a good idea. that's right, yes . well, there you are. yeah yes. well, there you are. yeah and shale gas i heard over there , there's not much of that at the moment though it does seem it does seem the government's energy policy is wildly unpopular, but it does seem on nuclear energy. i think the country is coming point country is coming to that point of view . yeah. can i say on that of view. yeah. can i say on that point well, virginia crosbie point as well, virginia crosbie , in morning, she , our mp in this morning, she didn't huge advocates didn't actually huge advocates for energy there and for nuclear energy there and i can go you know say to the people of anglesey if you only see there you see nuclear energy there you want good created want see the good jobs created your jobs the your children with good jobs the future make sure virginia back to election sam to your mp the next election sam you're there cardiff you're you're there in cardiff you're very much in a minority position still dominating politics in wales . how is devolution working wales. how is devolution working 7 wales. how is devolution working ? let's just talk about this

minority position first of all. so you are obviously right. labour been in power for 23 years now in cardiff and there but we are the second largest party now if you sat and just just remind me how many labour 30 labour members out now how many of you 16 of us and 13 of pride country. but my point is if saw the media in wales far more often than not you would think that plaid coming were running here you seem running the show here you seem to with a separate set to everyone with a separate set and once broken united and once the broken united kingdom. that's not the kingdom. but that's not the truth just over truth. last election just over a year ago. plaid kurmi, the third largest party here in wales , largest party here in wales, nowhere near getting into any of power. i take that point fully . power. i take that point fully. my power. i take that point fully. my point is, you're very much as conservatives in a minority position . but my big question to position. but my big question to you , the conservatives are very you, the conservatives are very split on have been quite split on the concept of devolution. they're not now the party supports it fully is working out for the welsh people what's not working for the welsh people is a labour run government here in wales for 23 years for the same

labour run it's hired and they're bringing in policies now which are frankly not for the people of wales . let's look at people of wales. let's look at the biggest responsibilities. look first of all, look at health. first of all, health service is developing in wales worst place in the wales is the worst place in the united kingdom at creation is devolved here in wales with the worst system across worst education system across the united kingdom. that's with the united kingdom. that's with the economy poorest people the economy, the poorest people in wales. so labour is not working people. okay. all right let let me just accept all those points that you've just made and certainly on health it's i mean we've got nhs tonight, the boss is talking about a prolonged penod is talking about a prolonged period very high death rates. period of very high death rates. i'm sure the same will apply in wales well . if i accept some wales as well. if i accept some of your points , but is the of your points, but is the conservative government nationally itself competent to run anything in our nation? absolutely. is a conservative government has delivered brexit, which of course the former a massive advocate what else? what else is considered government goes through a most difficult years through the pandemic,

delivering vaccine which you again have supported the delivery of through here . i delivery of through here. i supported fact that outside the union, outside the european medicines agency with you crack on and, do it. well, i haven't supported a successive lockdowns that have done this country enormous . sorry. those enormous. sorry. yeah, those lockdowns worse in lockdowns were much worse in wales. have to remember wales. and what have to remember is that wales is times across the united kingdom here in wales, a labour run . you want to wales, a labour run. you want to see what labour run government will look across the united will look like across the united kingdom look things are kingdom. look at how things are run in wales. it's a run here in wales. it's not a bed of roses as keir starmer would like you think to believe. we're going we're going to we're going to we're going to have strong supporter have a strong labour supporter coming a little bit coming on the show a little bit later on counter of later on to counter some of those points want to say sound those points i want to say sound residents, the senate, residents, member of the senate, thank coming and joining thank you for coming and joining us a moment . thank you for coming and joining us a moment. in a moment, it us in a moment. in a moment, it will be barrage . the barrage. will be barrage. the barrage. first, we take a short commercial break. see you , in commercial break. see you, in a couple of minutes .

welcome to buckle under the knife. now last week targeted loud . we were in clacton on sea loud. we were in clacton on sea last thursday we had a representative from the martyn's united foundation , a small local united foundation, a small local charity in clacton on sea, helping increasing number of homeless people on the streets of that essex seaside town. today we receive this i would like to say thank you to you and gb news for having on the show last week we a donation of £1,000 from a gentleman in london who watched the show said he loved it. we just had another donation in from florida of 100 quid thank because of your quid big thank because of your support we can help people this winter so i'm really pleased with that. can go around the with that. we can go around the place good that is place and do some good that is i think you must show out on the road now it is time for a

barrage . barrage let's crack on. barrage. barrage let's crack on. and my first question is . steve. and my first question is. steve. amy, as heard landlord, there is no for the fantasy tale of alice and the match house's tea party, the tories and suella braverman can be likened king canute with the rising tide of illegals arriving daily on our shores, clearly 43,400 labour government figures to date that's costing us nearly figures to date that's costing us nearly £7 million a day, figures to date that's costing us nearly £7 million a day , £7 us nearly £7 million a day, £7 million. nigel, do you agree that it's time for us to legislate for us to legislate and the jurisdiction of the european court of human rights and put a stop to this nonsense. yes, yes i do. steve and i do. i there are three things that need to be done. number one, to review the 1951 definition on refugees, the eu. and that was at a time people were murdered.

yes, that's what this was. but for not because you come from somewhere that's a bit of a dump or something where you don't much money or you just want to come work in this country come and work in this country possibly drugs the possibly the drugs trade in the case many who are coming case of many who are coming sadly number two, sadly from albania. number two, we a proper brexit and a proper brexit . a judge in strasbourg brexit. a judge in strasbourg has no say over this country, in my opinion. and thirdly, tony blair's human rights act needs looking problems . i don't looking at problems. i don't think labour party won't think the labour party won't touch it and i don't think sunak and his cohort have the guts to do it. what do you think? well, i think we should reform . like i think we should reform. like i get it, i get it. i get it. alright i get it. i you public . alright i get it. i you public. yeah yeah. is slow ebbing away from the tories i think it is a reform group what is beginning to happen today's poll said so steve thank you very much indeed stephanie . following on from

stephanie. following on from what you said earlier. yeah was dame hussey right to step down her role very prestigious role and what do we learn about prince william and in the light of this fiasco he was very quick to make comments about racism not wanting racism in the role. yeah rishi sunak's that the same thing tonight and they see a story , they see critical press story, they see critical press they start the hands up in horror. no one checks the details . it's kneejerk , it's details. it's kneejerk, it's fair. i want to be too critical of william he's you know, he's he's finding his feet now as the prince of wales but he does seem to have quite a lot of rather woke advice as around him he was made a fool of in boston last and anyone could have told them that that particular to that particular american football club you know was was let's say a fair to be of club you know was was let's say a fairto be of irish club you know was was let's say a fair to be of irish national ism within their ranks. it was a very unwise thing to do . look, very unwise thing to do. look, she's given this country decades

service had she had she meant something with or with deep ignorance ? i'd fully understand ignorance? i'd fully understand it. a friend , mine, paul embry, it. a friend, mine, paul embry, who appears on this channel time to time, said, when i first met my wife, it was to me she was an indian heritage . i said to her, indian heritage. i said to her, where are you from? she said, east . he where are you from? she said, east. he said, i asked her, but where are your family from? where are your roots from? she said, calcutta . he put in his said, calcutta. he put in his tweet, what a good job. she didn't take offence on that day. so you're absolutely right. i agree with you completely. stephanie, you . next up , stephanie, thank you. next up, james. do the welsh government to get close to the white? thank you. do the welsh have any say in letting the immigrants stand hotels because are coming here big star at the end of the day the home office farm this out to three companies those companies do deals with hotel groups all

right you know if i was a hotelier and i'd been through the pandemic and were down and the pandemic and were down and the cost of gas and electricity was through roof and i was offered a million quid to close my hotel down for the year sack all the local staff you could understand the temptation to take the money but i want to say there are three hoteliers that i know of, one in cornwall, one in kent, one in one in lincolnshire who were flat refused take the money because the fear they have of what it would do to the local communities, i commend them enormously . did the welsh enormously. did the welsh government say government have any say effectively on now effectively on this now whatsoever? and nor do the local mps , nor the local members of mps, nor the local members of the senate . this all the senate. this is all completely above and i genuinely think we are a very, very fair people. we've always been a very fair and decent people . this fair and decent people. this nonsense about our past , how nonsense about our past, how ghastly we are, will compare us to, the rest of european countries and history. so how angry about the whole thing or

dreadful nigel mctavish derbyshire ? yeah. yep. that's derbyshire? yeah. yep. that's why i put my nickname is juice. yeah. yeah music. he had a job too. and watched a bit with the lot in skegness week. yes, yes. we used to go to mablethorpe every year . a we used to go to mablethorpe every year. a holiday. yeah. yeah yeah. soundbite with that. yeah yeah. soundbite with that. yeah price you know. well it hasn't sold out which was fantastic skegness now has a seaside town has four migrant hotels in that town that means fewer places for british holidaymakers next year. it's a disaster juice thank you very much. thank you for your question. and lastly, jackie . question. and lastly, jackie. jackie . data released from the jackie. data released from the recent census shows marked decline in british people identifying as christian . do you identifying as christian. do you view this as a problem and what do you think are the reasons behind this ? look, i think behind this? look, i think everything about western civilisation was built on judeo—christian principles . our judeo—christian principles. our laws were fundamentally on what came from the ten commandments, are constitute an our king is

defender of the faith in that everything was built along christian models. why do get declined so much above . i think declined so much above. i think the church of england the biggest church in these islands has been led by a series of marxists i'm not even sure that christian themself they're apologists for everything in their political left wing sense they refuse to give any if ever there was a time for spiritual a and moral guidance. it was dunng and moral guidance. it was during the pandemic when millions of people were very very scared and we got nothing out of it just oh thank you thank you. okay we are going to take a break . we're back then take a break. we're back then we're talking pints with a very famous son of this town . i'll be famous son of this town. i'll be with neville southall in just a.

couple of so my guest tonight at talking pints, he has been part of a that won to division one championships to the fia cup's one european cup winners cup. he was the football writers associate asian footballer of the year in 1985 he was wales's sports personality of the year in 1995. in december 2004, he was voted everton's all time cult hero. but most important of all, tonight's talking pints guest, neville southall comes from plenty of note. welcome . from plenty of note. welcome. for the 15 years old living here , you're playing for london. no town . we always good we always town. we always good we always good to go was always a natural

talent oh that already is for other to decide what to do well think they did but i did okay and then i so yeah we did. i mean at one point you were arguably the best goalkeeper in the. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. the. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah . i don't think you think yeah. i don't think you think about that being just do what you got to do and because you're not doing it, somebody else is doing it and. i don't see what the point of doing the job you give me the try to be the best at what you did it for a very, very long time too. yeah, well, similar to you. yeah, yeah well yes i've. oh, i've very yes i've. oh, i've been very about that caps. mm hmm . if about that 92 caps. mm hmm. if you're national team good to see wales in this year's world cup. yeah, it was good to see them get. was disappointing to get. it was disappointing to them at the end but then we've had a good tournament and the euros went to the world cup didn't have such a good time but the bobsledding have. so at least the younger players gone there some facts. there and learned some facts. the a lot the manager well i learnt a lot that well. sometimes when you that as well. sometimes when you have tournament, you have a good tournament, you don't of the

don't learn as much of the tournament. it's tournament. yeah it's disappointing to come away is the played. don't want the way we played. i don't want to gareth and joe to disappoint for gareth and joe and a little bit of the danger with justice really. so yeah, i think they've got unfinished business. hopefully take it to the next few rooms, but just good to there. after it was good to be there. after it was 64 years. what you say 64 years. what you could say about anything, it's good about anything, carl? it's good to there. you've got to be to be there. you've got to be a bit more ambitious and being good to me. you're very competitive, aren't you ? i don't competitive, aren't you? i don't see point you know, see the point in, you know, everyone great to everyone saying it's great to get one sense, it's get there. in one sense, it's great yeah, well have to great yeah, well they have to learn to, how to tournament on a regular basis. and our problem now finding gareth now is finding the next gareth bale ramsey the bale for the next and ramsey the joe we don't that we're joe allen we don't do that we're going to we're going to struggle how good england look, i'm very good. how good england look, i'm very good . katie they look as if they good. katie they look as if they got a chance to win it. they've got a chance to win it. they've got people over the pitch. you can score goals physically. they're strong, they're in good neck. they don't conceivably into problem. but into the only 40 problem. but england the media england is a because the media actually kill them. it's pretty

vicious and oh yeah , they're vicious and oh yeah, they're they're either, you know, top they're either, you know, top the universal yeah falling a cliff there's no low in between for them but i don't you know as as i know that the pressure useless when . i know their jobs useless when. i know their jobs to sell newspapers then. yeah well they do the same ww you know . well actually what i try know. well actually what i try to do i try get people of all different opinions on this programme regardless , whether i programme regardless, whether i agree with them, disagree with them, let them have their say. and i think that's, you know, in a democracy what we ought to be trying do and sat here for trying do and i've sat here for all night i've disagreed all night and i've disagreed with none of it with nearly 99 point none of it . but here we see. here's the chance. now we local, chance. now we the local, because to we've had to because we had to we've had to cut tories on tonight who had an independent tonight. you are never supporter of the never a strong supporter of the labour party. you know, i believe looking after most believe looking after the most vulnerable, don't think that's vulnerable, i don't think that's what any good country should be doing seem to be doing and we don't seem to be doing and we don't seem to be doing we seem be lower than

doing it. we seem be lower than other should be looking other top. we should be looking at the that the at the bottom of the that the most people in our most vulnerable people in our society should be with the greatest respect dignity greatest respect and dignity helped. have a helped. so we don't have a society , don't think with society, don't you think with the benefit and everything else we do as a country for those at the lower end of the income range? no. no one else really ? range? no. no one else really? no. no one. no one. aid. why? why why should we keep locked in a top up? why should the in this world keep the gap between the rich and the poor has got wider and wider. that's true . windsor and wider. that's true. windsor what mr. what mr. blair started all that didn't it doesn't matter who in power the way we should looking at society is how treat the most vulnerable. and at the moment we don't treat we won't do it otherwise electric got up and things shut up from what they can do from nothing that. in this that. we people die in this winter the people in power winter and the people in power won't give a monkey's. yeah, yeah. won't give a monkey's. yeah, yeah . come. okay. nice . labour's yeah. come. okay. nice. labour's been through an interesting

swing isn't because you had new labour with we then went to corbyn who was a socialist . i corbyn who was a socialist. i mean, whether you agree or disagree him you know you knew he was a socialist. we knew what he was a socialist. we knew what he believed in. a lot of the country in a general election seem to like it. but where do you. starmer isn't it almost going back ? blairism really? going back? blairism really? neville , was about he's got neville well, was about he's got to try to tread a fine between keeping businesses on board and really strong trying help really strong and trying help the think it's nearly the left. i think it's nearly impossible job to be labour impossible job to be a labour these days. need to sort these days. they need to sort these days. they need to sort the you know, in some the party you know, in some terms, but think overall when i look what's in power at the moment , i we've the most moment, i think we've the most dangerous people in the world. i mean, boris johnson trump on the donald how bad obviously are the dangerous put it onto the country boris johnson was always going to mess up well and democracy should be that go in the house of commons and you're allowed to tell the truth and the person who told the truth

called boris liar, which he is and he's been and he's been homophobic. she got thrown out, you like boris, you you know, like boris, you i don't like books. i like i like who look after the honourable and none of them do . all right. and none of them do. all right. what about devolution what about the devolution for wales? i don't know. you. you've a big supporter of this idea . well, he supporter of this idea. well, he can't do it because we haven't got full power. right. you want so you want full tax raising power in cardiff. yes. i think it be sensible thing do. well it be sensible thing to do. well while the ways of while you've gone the ways of the job you might have all. but if we're welsh, i'll never forget prince of wales forget the prince of wales should not not should live in by always not not somebody because that's somebody else. because that's his the prince wales. his job. he's the prince wales. we should leave that and work for country. but i if for the country. but i think if you want. i mean, just you want. okay. i mean, just following through you're following through what you're saying believe saying and i know you believe and own because you're and good your own because you're providing good to what we providing a good to what we heard earlier the if want to go that with devolution that way with welsh devolution and also support wales and would you also support wales being from the united being separate from the united kingdom? will come kingdom? i think it will come eventually. yeah. eventually. i don't yeah. i don't we have force it. don't think we have to force it. i naturally think the i think naturally i think the tories starve starve wales

tories starve and starve wales tories starve and starve wales to the point of because i don't want them succeed because the labour and whatever people say it'll generally remain labour for the next well until i die , for the next well until i die, however long that is. and then i think it'll gradually eventually go to a independent england don't want us and i don't think true i do. i don't , i really true i do. i don't, i really don't. i think we always disagree. well we're allowed to disagree. well we're allowed to disagree is a good that that's why we're having a drink talking about it. i remember. oh you be right. i don't know. i don't see it myself. but you may be right . do it. do we kick up a . do it. why do we kick up a fuss about scotland and do nothing? well, i'll tell you what government argue what the government would argue that actually of tax revenues that actually of tax revenues that raised , wales gets its that are raised, wales gets its fair share , but it's not enough fair share, but it's not enough as it well should. i know if i say not enough . what do you say not enough. what do you think we should ? the rich more? think we should? the rich more? yeah look, i think it should be done locally times. if there's a place , you know, you can tax the place, you know, you can tax the local big companies that tax

goes into the local community . i goes into the local community. i think it's a good thing. i think anybody. well, what was a normal sum of money for anybody should she premier league footballer should a more but should be taxed a lot more but i think anybody over a certain amount money should be taxed properly it's. is that? properly it's. what is that? trouble they'll somewhere trouble is they'll go somewhere else. go else. then when they go somewhere trying to somewhere else. are we trying to build don't we try to build here? don't we try to satisfy our people? are we trying to after our people? trying to look after our people? alright, it that alright, neville, get it that you've involved few you've been involved last few years, education helping people who are disadvantaged . charity who are disadvantaged. charity has role to play here too, doesn't it? not just government. yeah it should like me more or less. i disagree with that offence, we firmly do, but see, i do. i refugee charities. come on my twitter. yeah because the story i every day is certainly abouti story i every day is certainly about i think it's disgraceful. do you think young albanians do you think thousands of young how many of them right how many of them are policemen that it's firemen work in the firemen working work in the working hospitals . how many working hospitals. how many social girls. well at moment at

the moment, none because because they're coming illegally across they're coming illegally across the how do you the english channel. how do you know they're not serious criminals? could be, criminals? well, they could be, but not everybody that crosses our to channel see this criminal? we a right. criminal? no, but we a right. but you started because it was brexit. you started brexit ? brexit. you started brexit? well, border controls well, i wanted border controls when it staged . and then you when it was staged. and then you frightened everybody to death . frightened everybody to death. people coming across the wall, then people. i'm really worried. i'm really worried about it. i should be worried, right? yeah. i don't care what you say. right. this is my opinion not to do that. and then of course, wrong. well, no, no, no, no, no. he's allowed to have his say shut us and allowed to say what i want say. so believe right. i want to say. so believe right. that we've out of that once we've came out of brexit . french were never, ever brexit. french were never, ever going to try as hard as what they have tried keep they should have tried to keep people britain with way. people out of britain with way. why build proper why didn't they build a proper facility france to sick them facility in france to sick them through to see which is right. i think if you go back to your thing 80% of britain is not built on, is it? you know what?

i tell you what, neville if we had offshore processing and if people that came to britain were genuine refugees , nobody genuine refugees, nobody would argue pleasure to argue it has been a pleasure to have good political debate. have a good political debate. you talking pints neville you on talking pints neville southall today . i'm southall everybody should today. i'm town so berman is going to play for the verb did it first it's david but now we're going to have lucky man for the lucky town of reading goodnight. having is more or less just exchanging the song in my . home exchanging the song in my. home oh, my, my . having an instrument oh, my, my. having an instrument and a good glad you know watch

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just the change in the songs. in oh oh my . oh oh my oh oh my. oh oh my. hello again. i'm aidan mcgivern from the met office. in some places , fog hasn't cleared places, fog hasn't cleared dunng places, fog hasn't cleared during the. it will thicken anything overnight and it will stay chilly . but brighter skies stay chilly. but brighter skies are on way for later. friday for the time being, we've got high pressure across much of the uk . pressure across much of the uk. however, a weak weather front has been affecting scotland in the far north of england, bringing some outbreaks of rain . that tending to fizzle . that rain tending to fizzle out north—east england, out across north—east england, southern eastern scotland as southern and eastern scotland as well as the far north. the end of the night . a lot of cloud of the night. a lot of cloud remaining, though, that keep things relatively mild overnight . scotland northern

. in scotland and northern ireland england, wales, though, will extensive of low cloud will see extensive of low cloud and dense fog relief, particularly from vale of particularly from the vale of york into the midlands, east wales southern counties of wales and southern counties of england. some visibility england. so some poor visibility , the to watch out for , the roads to watch out for first but the brightest first thing, but the brightest guys will be affecting east anglia in the south—east with some showers running here, to some showers running here, 1 to 2 clipping the far south 2 showers clipping the far south of well . and the of cornwall as well. and the rain in the north of scotland to fizzle later . otherwise, fizzle out later. otherwise, it's largely dry. brightest arrive once the fog lifts with some sunshine places as well, but it will feel cold. temperatures up at 5 to 9 selsey and then increasingly brisk easterly wind. now this easterly will bring further showers in through the night across parts of england, eastern scotland as well as eventually the midlands , anglia and the southeast . , anglia and the southeast. those showers will be falling rain at this stage, but it's going to be a chilly night with temperatures hovering around 2 to 5 celsius. by and large, touch of frost possible around

western and northern parts where western and northern parts where we see some cloud breaks and the cold the weekend with that easterly breeze which picks up pace during adding a wind chill and adding further showers into eastern and some central areas . eastern and some central areas. a few flakes is now possible over the mountains as well as the pennines . but for the vast the pennines. but for the vast majority of these rain showers, however, that easterly wind is going make cold through going to make feel cold through the and the of week .

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