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but hello, happy friday. i'm back with my weekly show here on every friday night at 7 pm. with a bit of fun, fierce and fearless debate . coming up on fearless debate. coming up on the show tonight, we'll be looking at the release of the census stats and debating identity politics. we'll also be talking about the royal race rally and whether lady susan hussey was right to resign. no show and then i'll be speaking
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to nina mischka on another fiery edition of what we're calling dish out. but we've got to change the name for his news. good evening. i'm porter in the gb newsroom. it's been confirmed that six young children in the uk have now died from a strep a infection in the uk health security agency say they're investigating after a rise in rare invasive group strep with five deaths of under tens in england september, a child also died in wales last week . health died in wales last week. health officials say they've seen a slight in cases of strep a which can cause scarlet fever , though can cause scarlet fever, though deaths and serious complications from the infection are rare , from the infection are rare, chemotherapy and dialysis are among a list of services that will be protected from strikes in the build up to christmas. the royal college of nursing has also announced that critical care units neonatal and
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paediatric intensive care will not be impacted . other services not be impacted. other services will be severely reduced. members the rcn in england, wales and ireland are set to take action on december the 15th and 20th. gb news that health officials are dealing with new cases of at the ftx migrant processing centre in kent . the processing centre in kent. the cases were discovered among the more than 2000 channel migrant who've arrived small boats in recent days . gb news has recent days. gb news has obtained exclusive images from inside ftx , revealing some of inside ftx, revealing some of the poor conditions migrants are living in. official sources have told us they believe those testing for syria contracted it while living rough in france such has become the latest conservative mp to announce he won't be standing at the next general election. the mp for bromsgrove was health secretary july this year when he stood the tory leadership campaign. is one of the most prominent tory mp to that to step down with prime
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rishi sunak saying he's sad to see his good friend stepping back from . in a letter to back from. in a letter to bromsgrove conservative association , mr. javid said association, mr. javid said serving the government had been the biggest privilege of his life . the rmt union boss held life. the rmt union boss held urgent talks with the government in a bid to halt strikes planned over the christmas period. mick lynch , scotland's transport lynch, scotland's transport minister, yesterday . the pair minister, yesterday. the pair have urged westminster to intervene in the network rail pay intervene in the network rail pay dispute . transport secretary pay dispute. transport secretary mark harper said he wanted to work with the rmt and the employers in good faith to resolve issues. mr. lynch said talks will continue over the weekend . tv online and dab weekend. tv online and dab radio. this is gb. now it's back to laurence fox .
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to laurence fox. good evening. there are two reasons to corral animals. good evening. there are two reasons to corral animals . one reasons to corral animals. one of them is to gather them together in darkness, to keep them safe from and the other is when they're being prepared for slaughter . when they're being prepared for slaughter. this week we have seen new owners data which reveals that the uk is undergoing the most dramatic demographic shift in modern history. roughly two thirds of london is now identified as bame . forgive me. sorry, no, bame is outdated . no longer that derek. outdated. no longer that derek. our way of lumping into pejorative groups has been now superseded at least by westminster council , with a new westminster council, with a new and altogether more sinister . and altogether more sinister. the global majority . westminster the global majority. westminster council are committed inculcating this strange post—colonial jargon into the alphabet soup of acceptable modern parlance imminently . modern parlance imminently. yippee. slaughter by cancellation awaits anyone who even quietly knew descent. britain itself is perhaps being colonised and we the taxpayer
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being milked for the privilege our champagne swilling though in that overpriced of upper street who spent the last two years having their white trays and fairtrade ocado avocados delivered to them by this revered global sit in kimonos, proselytising , anything and proselytising, anything and everything britain has done to deserve this cultural self destruction and self—flagellation , so they self—flagellation, so they raucously applaud on social media and indeed in all the media and indeed in all the media clapping along in agreement , each other like seals agreement, each other like seals at a circus about the vileness of white ness, which stains the faces and souls of their fellow countrymen. this week or two, new calls for them to rally around after a woman from hackney ngozi fulani got invited to a royal garden party and looked a gift horse dead in the mouth. a horrific , privileged 83 mouth. a horrific, privileged 83 year old white privileged servant to the queen resigned position in shame after a weak
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chin. king threw her under the bus for asking the terrible question where are you from .7 in question where are you from.7 in the meantime and sauntered off back to hackney for a costume change safe in the knowledge that no whites racist will ever ask where she from ever again for fear of cancellation . where for fear of cancellation. where do you come from.7 it is the most innocuous conversation opener in history , but now it's firmly history, but now it's firmly engraved in the woke book of racist laws, a very british greeting now stopped firmly . greeting now stopped firmly. every white british mouth as we are herded like dumb cattle, too afraid to open mouths. those who control every thought word , move control every thought word, move or deed for our own good headed towards safety or corralled towards safety or corralled towards the slaughterhouse . towards the slaughterhouse. usually i wouldn't care too much demographic shifts or moderate and controlled immigration
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because . the majority of because. the majority of immigrants into this giant shared field of ours , by and shared field of ours, by and large, adopt and adore the british way of life. but there unsettling nuances to this development, not least the exponential rise in identity blighting every part of our country's cultural landscape by people like jose and the same old race baiters sit glued to jeremy vine's daily to opine about the evils of whiteness and the red flags of richard curtis . i mean, how can you count on richard curtis? crikey, how long before us? cheery who have happily sought shelter in this nation's field amongst one another for centuries , begin to another for centuries, begin to become more stubborn and less responsive to the woke whip of the cancellation cattlemen driving us on down narrow and narrower paths of thought towards safety or towards the slaughter . towards safety or towards the
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slaughter. how long we turn around in defiant stampede and bolt for those future fields where all cows are colour—blind and all cows matter . britain and all cows matter. britain will only be a great green and present land again when we decide together that all need just to come home and remember identity politics works both ways . let's get on with the show. ways. let's get on with the show. well, they go tonight. i'm asking you , is culture too far asking you, is culture too far a going too far that the older generations just can't keep up? email at gb news. gb news. co.uk. or me at laser fox. my i'm so bad at reading. not always happy . right? for the always happy. right? for the first time since the census began , england and wales are no began, england and wales are no longer majority christian
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countries. results the newly released 2021 census show that 46.2% of people in the countries with religion, whereas there was an increase in other faiths as muslim . and more than 37% of the muslim. and more than 37% of the population and 22 million people are now saying that they identify with no religion whatsoever. maybe it's just the woke religion statistics are also released on race with a decrease in amount of people now identifying white ethnic group , identifying white ethnic group, but more crossing themselves as otherwise . so what the white otherwise. so what the white means ? what that mean ukrainian? means? what that mean ukrainian? maybe there was also a large increase in people crossing themselves as other ethnic groups , right? well, joining me groups, right? well, joining me the studio to discuss this is rafe heilman from the new culture forum and broadcaster nikole. how are you doing, guys? hi. how are love to see you. richard curtis cancelled himself. he wasn't cancelled . he
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himself. he wasn't cancelled. he wasn't cancelled? no, he got well. he had to go. he's the one who said he feels very uncomfortable about. now, when he looks back at it, he knows it first before they say it , the first before they say it, the way he cancelled himself is it's sort of going too fast. we know i think it's on the graduate path that it should be , you path that it should be, you know, demographics or mental change. and of course , know change. and of course, know we're not denying, you know, we the sense of support that christianity is , you know, christianity is, you know, decreasing. but i don't see diversity as a bad thing . i diversity as a bad thing. i think it's a beautiful thing. it's amazing. britain should be proud of itself that we are so diverse that got so many different cultures and religions and cultures. race. i can feel that you are dying to say something like , look, there's something like, look, there's immigration there's immigration and then there's mass have experienced in the mass. we have experienced in the last 25 years more immigration in the last 2000. you in immigration on the time decline of christianity because that's very dangerous and misdirected which was always keeping our
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christian talking about christian talking about christian christianity . well, we christian christianity. well, we know that there are 1 million more. we know there are 1 million more muslims. but yes, that's a whole movement in australia. it's secular. secularism is the main reason the specific decline in church of but actually of england. but actually immigration , of reasons immigration, one of the reasons why immigration , christian why immigration, christian denominations are actually strongest . the urban ones like strongest. the urban ones like my dad is roman catholic church is stronger in this in this country. the problem in this country. the problem in this country is not christianity is the church of england. the church of england is become increasingly woke. the more you become and become less and more haemorrhages . become less and more haemorrhages. i don't become less and more haemorrhages . i don't want to be haemorrhages. i don't want to be an intervener here , but an intervener here, but everyone's got to be able to get a point across. but thank yous and i love it. and there and then i love it. and there are denominations are christians denominations that here and. that are very strong here and. the roman catholic church is one because the eastern europeans because of the eastern europeans arrived also, the arrived here. also, the evangelical churches, because of the africa the support they get from africa and, from south america, is the church, england that's been haemorrhaging support for than it the the more it goes to the left. the more haemorrhage support from haemorrhage of support from people normally be people who would normally be traditional you .
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traditional and following you. you used to be the you know, it used to be the conservative prayer. conservative party of prayer. these days like these days it's more like momentum at with a green momentum at prayer with a green party, a prayer poignant party, a prayer orjust poignant prayer. no surprise. and prayer. so it's no surprise. and they're going after an audience that's not all. and they're that's not at all. and they're losing why. the results of losing their why. the results of it. is it ? i've losing their why. the results of it. is it? i've got losing their why. the results of it. is it ? i've got two it. and why is it? i've got two theories why the audience unleashed it. i agree. i don't think woke i think it is think it's woke i think it is not inclusive . i'm sorry . views not inclusive. i'm sorry. views on on gays. well, here's views on on gays. well, here's views on gays. the church of england . on gays. the church of england. the church. this is what about lately? i mean , are the checks lately? i mean, are the checks checks to england recently? but the only reason a discussion about whether the wounding christ side when the most sacred in the whole history of the world looks in the history of christian faith looks like a vagina. these people off the charts. i disagree. i think charts. i disagree. ithink they're off the charts . no. they're off the charts. no. okay. are you do you have a faith? yes. i'm sick . okay. are you do you have a faith? yes. i'm sick. i'm punjabi. sikh. okay so if i insulted your godhead . your
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insulted your godhead. your guru. your guru , how would you guru. your guru, how would you feel about it? you would be upset.i feel about it? you would be upset. i think you look like the storm. look i've got to get my point. i think we can't have a discussion. let's get to point, point, point point. it is the. church of england is unutterably woke to the point where i would say it's working for. the other black bloke, that's just where i stand on it. now do you stand on it. now what do you what you like to say. i would say what's wrong with being. why are so scared the church? are you so scared of the church? of the fact that of the church? the fact that christianity is becoming decreasing. people don't take the books anymore. they don't want anymore. and want to know why anymore. and it's not. they're woke. it's because feel included because don't feel included is what say. and think what i want to say. and think it's a class thing. i would say middle. including the working class white british people do feel included whereby they choose from from the start to my feeling it's my opinion they don't feel included. so i think the problem here is i've mentioned the white working class. i probably think the propping up the whole bloody thing. no i do the. you don't, you don't have people going to
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churches in sikhism, in islam and . go, take and hinduism. they go, they take itake and hinduism. they go, they take i take my kids to the temple. they take the kids the mosque. white british who are christian. don't take them to the church. it's a priority. why is it's not a priority. why is that? why is the church of england has stopped stands for things in the catholic things people in the catholic tribal people in the catholic just know what the dogma the catholic church is. evangelicals know what's right and wrong based on the bible. islam has strong tenets of faith. sikhism to the cv is trying to be all things to and to be so inclusive that. no one knows what it stands for come christmas week is what . love thy neighbour. is what. love thy neighbour. love that love you gave so very much. love thy neighbour. and you should be you know you should celebrate more time for something else which is he made the man and female. he didn't make trans human beings did make them trans human beings did that operating theatres at that in operating theatres at the tavistock clinic and very . the tavistock clinic and very. but change . this is but then times change. this is where the census has come. now demographics change. people change . and actually the problem change. and actually the problem is now atheist they
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is people are now atheist they don't believe in any religion. it is in secular religion of it is in the secular religion of woke. should a woke. so should we become a secular state? why have a religious why a religious state? why have a religious state? why have a religious state? why would you all you are a christian. what i'm in country i'm hearing in the country they're the church they're trying bring the church and even closer and the state even closer together we government together so that we government will legislate what the judge preaches told food said preaches king told to food said in very interview. he wanted in a very interview. he wanted to be a defender, all faiths. what's wrong with that. why? why can't we be that? nobody. is defender of the church of england. defender of the faith. rather supreme governor of the church of england. we an church of england. we have an established this established church in this country, which the church of country, which is the church of england monarchy the england. the monarchy is the only in europe is only monarchy in europe is actually and consecrated actually crowned and consecrated in religious with the in a religious ceremony with the only legislature apart from iran, i should that clerics iran, i should that has clerics in upper we have in the upper house. we have established so we are established church, so we are more most countries and more than most countries and religious nation to other record. it runs you are becoming secular. the census data secular. judging the census data report should we not become a more secular state then by and
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because no one's identifying christian less , you've got less christian less, you've got less than half the nation identifying as christian . that's become a as christian. that's become a secular state. now it doesn't matter, but you're not identified as christian. then a structure. the united and every part it is built in an f ethically christian manner . it ethically christian manner. it operates off judeo christian values. and what i want to is, well, you know, rather than argue anything, what what is the future what are we looking at as the future in terms faith or in terms of in terms of the situation, in terms of culture in terms of these these weird i have no idea what they mean. like diversity, inclusion. you didn't know what diversity means in the window of a well with the scale change we're experiencing now be it on the work issues, be it on immigration is so rapid that no society can maintain social cohesion when things proceed at such a rapid pace and. that's the great problem that we have. and of course,
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it's, you know, whether you believe in the old idea of the long march through the institute actions we are seeing, the institutional of institutional takeover of institutions no longer institutions that have no longer a in standing up a vested interest in standing up for british values . well, i'll for british values. well, i'll tell you is it's very hard for the of this country. 10 seconds is very hard. it's very, very hard to buy a break for the british values. you can't buy and linda can have 10 seconds and linda can have 10 seconds and then the british values we want, you cannot buy into britain. social britain. you cannot have social cohesion and, immigrants becoming british. they're always told that britain is a racist country if they're always undermining own culture, undermining our own culture, if you're elevating minority you're always elevating minority cultures majority cultures over the majority british culture, and if you always to tear down statues to our great of the past, what incentive is there for new arrivals in this country to actually of britain? if actually be proud of britain? if we undermine our own we always undermine our own culture? immigrant culture? i mean, immigrant child. proud be child. and i am proud to be british. i'm proud to be indian. i can do the from both worlds as most this country have come most in this country have come as we do we as immigrants do we do we integrate and we do diverse and makes britain fabulous.
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integrate and we do diverse and makes britain fabulous . let's makes britain fabulous. let's embrace it, please. rafe, that's embrace it, please. rafe, that's embrace also . gave us diving embrace also. gave us diving diversity . the only diversity diversity. the only diversity that really and well, let's face it because we change the colour of our own skin or our religion. well, we can, but you want to actually because you would love to be like me. all right. to be brown like me. all right. right. | to be brown like me. all right. right. i stop it, tim. coming the royals have been rocked by an alleged racism . what's new is an alleged racism. what's new is harry and his been making way said. we'll see you shortly .
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oh, in response to our question, sue says nope it changes all the time . sometimes i'm worried time. sometimes i'm worried opening my mouth regarding certain issues just in case i say the wrong thing we all phil
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says this issue was a deliberate set up designed to discredit the palace . lady hussey deserves to palace. lady hussey deserves to be respected service. i couldn't agree with more. it all feels so like entrapment. and then for harry and meghan to drop that little netflix trailer just in time. so we can hear their truth which found to be wrong time and time again to use it says they shouldn't have to keep up the changing times they managed who we today. amen. i love my dad. my we today. amen. i love my dad. my 83 year old dad made me who i am today. some of you i love, but he's a great guy in my mind to you that some people are always looking for a way to be offended. tell me about it. people because , people get cancelled because, someone takes offence over nothing this kind nothing pandering to this kind of ridiculous. i of insanity is ridiculous. i couldn't more. that's why couldn't agree more. that's why the to mock them the only solution to mock them to pieces john says. as a 69 year old, i, my pre—computer, pre—internet , pre—internet, anti—discrimination legislation is kept up extremely well with the changing times. susan now sees a blot on any generation .
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sees a blot on any generation. well, there you go. it's always nice to have different view. one of the late queens ladies in waiting has apologised and resigned after being accused of racially insulting black british charity boss ngozi fulani a charity boss ngozi fulani a charity founder says she was questioned lady susan hussey about her background at a charity event on the palace on tuesday. she was at the reception at buckingham palace representing the london based charity sister space, which supports women of african and canbbean supports women of african and caribbean heritage across the uk who have faced and sexual abuse . after the incident at the palace, ms. fleming described on twitter as. everyone does how the royal moved her hair aside to see her name badge and then challenged to her where she was from . the backlash led to lady from. the backlash led to lady hussey handing in her resignation from the role held for 60 years. what a tragedy to discuss this topic with me further . as discuss this topic with me further. as you discuss this topic with me further . as you know discuss this topic with me further. as you know probably what i think about, i'm delighted to welcome my next guest commentator and founder of run racism, bushra sheikh.
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bushra hi. hi, laura. how are . bushra hi. hi, laura. how are. i'm well. how are you doing? should have been he should have resigned the. the truth is, it's not about going to keep their job and who's going to, because i'm sure that is know that's not the point. the point was an incident happened it involved racism somebody felt a certain after it that's what we to really really think about involved the racism. well involves racism somebody that's you know somebody is being discriminated against by the way in which they are spoken to. i guess brings like that every day. oh you go in and are you from germany. my danish or something. not the same thing you know because some skin colours matter more others. colours matter more than others. no because, you no no, no. it's because, you know, you're a person know, when you're a person colour don't what it's colour you don't know what it's like out of colour, you like to come out of colour, you know. no it's totally different for you. it's you come from a place of a privilege that maybe you don't even know. oh look, you don't even know. oh look, you know, i'm telling you , go on you know, i'm telling you, go on about the white working kids who come from no privilege , they
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come from no privilege, they still live with a type of privilege that comes with the white working class kids. yes because they are a little child. because they are white. and you know, when you're white, you do get money , different names. oh get money, different names. oh i'm a brown woman. firstly i also didn't a brown . but you also didn't a brown. but you look mediterranean to me . i was look mediterranean to me. i was just like, still, are you from sicily? and then you got the same thing as meghan. i never thought meghan markle was black. this serious. don't a this is serious. i don't know a lot since i run and run an anti—racism campaign and the number of people that i speak on a basis that tell about a daily basis that tell me about their experiences with being person of colour, it's serious stuff . this person of colour, it's serious stuff. this is person of colour, it's serious stuff . this is deep rooted . you stuff. this is deep rooted. you know, we really need to think aboutis know, we really need to think about is the family about is the royal family institution really racist? all this is a real question. i'm really one. so what we need to think about. yeah yeah, we do need some lady spent 70 years of her life getting better. the crocodile and going to something she didn't want to do every single day to sell this country to the world. to you and me. you
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could have had a better life. we're talking about whether the royal this royal family institution. this is ridiculous . royal family institution. this is ridiculous. i royal family institution. this is ridiculous . i don't is ridiculous. i don't care. nobodyi is ridiculous. i don't care. nobody i there is direct racism 100. and i mixed race relatives. yeah. so i know that. they've experienced that. yeah, but lump in direct racism with systemic racism for me is the biggest degeneration of the anti—racist cause or the non racist cause in it's so sad . so are we going to it's so sad. so are we going to start victim ? are we really start victim? are we really going to start blaming victims the way that they are feeling now? i just said we should stand against direct . i said systemic against direct. i said systemic racism , a complete and utter racism, a complete and utter fable and it makes a lot a lot of money. so hold us by this sword. and so the royal right which represents this entire country on the commonwealth country on the commonwealth country and the commonwealth and people of colour and if we feel like that there are people in that system that are directly race honest when you speak to them that a huge problem it's a problem that we are facing that
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we are seeing unravel . and it's we are seeing unravel. and it's meghan markle and the harry, you know, all of this stuff that's kind happening at the same time she must have experienced that stuff being in there is why they are doing what doing now are doing what they're doing now that to that going that is going to that is going to unpack. okay. so we getting into the next phase of woke conundrum, which is i believe all women . so if she says if she all women. so if she says if she says she's been racially abused , she has b, i've got believe you because , she said so many you because, she said so many things that have been destroyed interrupt that she said a me million things to oprah winfrey that were provably false so she's a liar we know that about markle. not a lie. she's not alive to be a liar. she she is basically telling people what her experiences are. and we cannot guess like anybody into thinking what they are feeling and what going on is not true. we have come to things once called how i feel and the other one's called reality. she lives in how she feels, not reality. oh, right. so now you're calling it delusional, are you? which is
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so you her so unfair. you can't her delusional. i'll just delusional quickly. you have you going to die ? it means that that is the die? it means that that is the truth and reality all the same things . oh, truth and reality all the same things. oh, my god. this is the total gaslighting i've ever, ever heard like. no, no, no. we know we've to take these things seriously. we some talk about it. if someone is feeling they are being discriminated against. i feel like being discriminated against because i'm a white posh in this country. i hate very much anyway , thank you. bye. much anyway, thank you. bye. shake that was fun . right now shake that was fun. right now it's shake that was fun. right now wsfime shake that was fun. right now it's time for a quick break, but go anywhere. i'll be back. trying to work out this thing. speaking to of the partners at hugh james lister's an investigation into abuse in uk hospitals. it's horrifying how long in .
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the welcome back now more than 4000 people have been raped or sexually abused in hospitals over the past four years, according to an investigation . according to an investigation. the by—line times they found more than 1300 patients, visitors and nhs staff were raped and at least 2700 were sexually assaulted within . a sexually assaulted within. a hospital setting . at least three hospital setting. at least three of the people involved were , of the people involved were, girls aged under 3018 and according to the report , 5% of according to the report, 5% of the allegations resulted in a charge or a summons . my guest to charge or a summons. my guest to discuss this further is alan collins partner, hugh james. listeners who specialises in abuse cases. are you surprised , abuse cases. are you surprised, by these numbers ? yes, i think by these numbers? yes, i think i'd be surprised by any number of the contexts . hospital should of the contexts. hospital should be the safest place possible and any kind of assault in a hospital would cause surprise and alarm . so at that level,
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and alarm. so at that level, yes, i am surprised. but i'll be surprised by any number. but i know my experience of representing people who have been sadly sexually assaulted in a hospital setting, whether it's a hospital setting, whether it's a patient, a staff member or a visitor. i can't say that. i am surprised . but how can this surprised. but how can this happen ? i would imagine a happen? i would imagine a hospital is most cctv place that you can ever go into other than the station. what's going on here? i think there's a number of factors at play. we know from recent cases been a problem with employing people , perhaps have employing people, perhaps have escaped dbs check . so i employing people, perhaps have escaped dbs check. so i think the nhs actually have an enhanced abstract wouldn't it. i think seen from some recent cases that hasn't always happened and i think it's common sense for anyone working in a hospital setting working in the nhs would have regular checks.
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so i think there's that issue. people who clearly should not be working a hospital setting , working a hospital setting, slipping through the net, so to speak. slipping through the net, so to speak . then we have a novel speak. then we have a novel issue, which i had seen come up quite a bit which is a misunderstanding consent. obviously we knew hospital you are very much in the hands of people looking after you and treating you and you know they do that i'm having to deal with you often in a very intimate way and so there seems to be in some quarters perhaps a lack of training , education and patients training, education and patients subjected to intimate without having given properly informed consent . and the situation gets consent. and the situation gets misused most vulnerable, obviously . you know, in the past obviously. you know, in the past you've heard of rogue doctors and rogue staff behaving a way, but this is the most vulnerable part of someone's life. you and shattering numbers. yeah.
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whatever the numbers . i have not whatever the numbers. i have not seen the detail. so i'm just going by the information that you've kindly provided me with. but over the years i've seen a range of cases from consultants and doctors behaving inappropriate only to rogue employees , carrying out, you employees, carrying out, you know , you know, terrible know, you know, terrible assaults and then got go back a number of years and we can remember jemmy saville working as a porter yeah and everything that emerged that that we see here at and you know that provides bit of context and you know and we've seen cases recently of visitors being indecently assaulted and so on. so i think there's an issue as regards checking and rechecking who working in hospitals and i think there's also an issue about education and training. we have in the nhs working . people have in the nhs working. people who come from other of the world
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and training and education around such as consent and is different. you don't need training, you know, education, whether it's appropriate to rape someone or not. let putting agree but putting to one side the what i see on cases where the what i see on cases where the sexual assault is on c serious but hasn't gone that far andifs serious but hasn't gone that far and it's been in the context of incident examinations where hasn't been properly consent because there is . defect in because there is. defect in education and training which should have been remedied before that particular individual was allowed to practise in the nhs how important is it for people to come forward. extremely important and this needs to be given a lot more so that we can identify where the problems rather than relying on what you're hearing from me today on the basis of experience of
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representing people who know tragically have had their trust misused . we all indeed and made misused. we all indeed and made all the more difficult by the fact that you're not allowed to criticise a sacred cow of the nhs anyway. nhs england response asked for, one said we take all complaints very . i would complaints very. i would strongly encourage anyone who has concerns about any form of sexual assault. well, on an nhs site to come forward report it and seek support chief workforce officer at the nhs england. i would to thank eileen collins very much for coming . thank you, very much for coming. thank you, sir. thank you very much for having me on. thank you. right, carry on. it's time for my favourite part the week, which we're still dishes out. i'm going to speak to someone about that later, along with your turkey. and i'm speaking to journalists nina mitchell. don't want to miss it because we had a bit of a bombing story.
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welcome back . and now it is time welcome back. and now it is time for. my favourite part of the show. it called dish it out, but i'm now to call it where are you from and why is no eating the sandwiches? how does that sound? anyway, this week i sat with journalist nina mischka for a global cheers. nina minkoff , she global cheers. nina minkoff, she is laurence fox. ms. coffee sounds like a bond villain . sounds like a bond villain. where are you from? bell south park . i where are you from? bell south park. i right. but where are you from? bell south park . i right. but where do you park. i right. but where do you really from? london. okay what did you make of that? i think it quite dreadful . you know, in quite dreadful. you know, in this day and age, people should know how to treat other people . know how to treat other people. but having said that, what a tragedy for a woman of that age to have had a kind of unblemished career and such a supportive role within the royal
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family to have it end at that age in such such disgrace . said age in such such disgrace. said that it was it was also about class, wasn't it? it was, you know, and where do you come from ideas that sort of put it? what do you think it really was about class who, as far as i can tell? marlene or kgosi, depending on which world fancy she's living in, to have been dressed in, seems to have been dressed in, seems to have been dressed in full tribal if you would, if you will. and she sort of sat there i think in my view to be perfectly fair enough to say, where are you from? yes and i think perhaps she was being slightly obtuse, like i was when said south park. yeah said belfast south park. yeah but on other hand , think if but on the other hand, think if you've experienced racism , which you've experienced racism, which undoubtedly every almost black person or non—white has done, i think in this country at some point, if not multiple times, because this there's all sorts of racism , then you are going be of racism, then you are going be very aware and prickly and you and you want to establish the fact that you are british and that people shouldn't really the fact that you're british because you a different way from them.
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and i also understood that lady hussey actually just moved aside her just hussey actually just moved aside herjust didn't hussey actually just moved aside her just didn't say hussey actually just moved aside herjust didn't say and say, excuse me, i don't know what your name should i'm just want to see what your name were. you don't i wouldn't whip your off. well, do you know what mean? it's a pretty love so i think it was unfortunate . and it really was unfortunate. and it really shouldn't happened in this day and age and it's a very sorry affair, but it has what is within the of the of the royal family and the palace. i think it's highlighted that. well okay. what about the other perspective that she's recorded this conversation? it would seem she's got previous form tweeting about how institutionally racist the royal family are and the fact that and harry have suffered domestic at the hands of the royal family . so she's of the royal family. so she's obviously got a political agenda recorded this and she's decided
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to take someone down. is there any criticism should be levelled at her? i don't think she's it. she's not recorded at all. think this is this is she said this from memory she had also to two colleagues with her can corroborate that don't think she she had any plan at all. i think she'd been invited to a marvellous party at buckingham palace. anybody would be thrilled . and was completely thrilled. and was completely blindsided by happened to her. she said everything a complete blur after after this every single hotel i've ever into in the whole world. the first thing someone's with this means. so where are you from? where are you guys from? whenever i get it. probably. i was thinking that it's phoning it when i can, getting ready and getting i probably elsewhere you from probably get elsewhere you from ten times a week that i have had that about so why should you why should it be okay to ask a white person where they're from? not okay to talk about where they're from? i think because you have no had problems no you've had no problems presumably a white person presumably as a white person living not few
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living in britain, not a few well, a few but but but nothing racist about because english one of the other lot if i'd been white privileged which i is a racist slur i've been called lots of things. yes i mean just justified or otherwise laurence. but i mean, you know , you know but i mean, you know, you know who is to know a few of the old christmas card lists? i was just i'm just questioning it who's to know and think the thing is if you are in a situation where you want to feel of something and somebody appears to question that then you have every to question the attitude right back.i question the attitude right back. i would say wearing the full african tribal garb signifying when you go it wouldn't invite you to go. i mean if i saw someone in full african tribal garb at a party, i'd get i go, where are you from? they go hurt me. i'd go find them. where's the garb from ? with other people . just to
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? with other people. just to understand that . and part of me understand that. and part of me agrees you. but the thing is, she kept persiste thing. i got to talk about covid. what did you feel the minute you had covid was coming? i felt apprehension like anybody would do. i thought my god, i think when it started in china, we thought, oh, something there. and then it got to italy and we started seeing reports in italy. thank you. my god, that's for poor italians. that's quite dreadful. and then i realised that this country was not taking or the government. boris johnson in particular was taking any kind of heat , in particular was taking any kind of heat, kind of warning about what coming down the track and. i thought, well, my god, this is going to be dreadful. and indeed it was a so that's what i thought your as far as recently as last year you were still saying you're pro—vaccine so you still of the belief that everyone should vaccinated. i think the people who to get
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vaccinated should get vaccinated . we are the ones who don't want to get vaccinated should. query why they're not being vaccinated so you're you possess great opposition to change now by your pro—autonomy but i'm not i'm not pro—autonomy but i'm not i'm not pro autonomy you're not pro—autonomy i say that i didn't say that i'm your twisting that oh to say anything almost you know the thing the thing about vaccines before vaccines we had no protection. well we had immune systems we had immune systems. but we have a country with people are not very healthy who who's not? not just the immunosuppressed, but people we as a nation, we are the fattest nafion as a nation, we are the fattest nation in europe aren't we all the next fattest nation in. and actually obesity is one of the real morbidities for it. absolutely. one of the real problems, the point being when you said that vaccines protect what vaccines ? hopefully, what vaccines? hopefully, presumably and any kind of vaccine, we're talking flu vaccine. we're talking what the
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vaccines you get as a child and very tempting. and we can we can't them together because a smallpox vaccine is a sterilising vaccine you talking smallpox vaccine came polio same thing people start to realise that we're not noticing that pick up on the basis booster 10 million plus people are getting boosted people are starting to go whether you like it or not. i'm at least 10 million of them are going, oh , weighing up are going, oh, weighing up whether i need one of those when it runs out after six months. look, you could size the young a lot during the thing they don't criticise you did criticising i said the and in what you said the younger than 40 to together and this goes by what i did say well well i think that was a discussion about increasing cases in the young particularly those going back to university say and i said i think at the time i think one of the charming things about the younger generation is they're very affectionate , rather touchy affectionate, rather touchy feely. but that, course does
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feely. but that, of course does not conflate with keeping your distance. it's passed on by respiratory and by by therefore yourin respiratory and by by therefore your in my breathing in what you breathe out and the thing is with with with young people is that that's the time of their life. they to be together. it's a physical time . the hormones a physical time. the hormones are raging. i understand all of that i'm not criticising me for that. i'm just stating the situation and saying those were the problems . but the thing the problems. but the thing about any vaccine or under any medical intervention , medical intervention, intervention, there is risk involved . now, when the vaccine involved. now, when the vaccine came out, i did. not think involved. now, when the vaccine came out, i did . not think about came out, i did. not think about it to jump on it with shouts of glee . i, too, am a thinking glee. i, too, am a thinking person. i thought, oh my god, how long is this been trialled for? it is something that we don't know . okay, so i didn't don't know. okay, so i didn't rush round sajid javid me jab me . that was not me. okay i value my health . i have reached the
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my health. i have reached the age. i have of 108 by being at 60 bombard. thank you very much. i will not be deflected by that. i will not be deflected by that. i the point being that i work hard at it. i i i've conquered my problems. that takes a lot i deny myself cream. i exercise day. i've walked through snow . day. i've walked through snow. so to get to the gym in my later stages of life and to the that i am not on any medication other than a low dose aspirin at my and i don't need specs so i work hard at my health care about what happens to me i don't want to be on medication so therefore the vaccine is not something that i would have thought. but it seemed to me that the only way out of the situation for me for the people i love , for the for the people i love, for the wider community , the world, if wider community, the world, if you like , was to have the you like, was to have the vaccine gives people a modicum or a great deal of protection
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basically i admire all of the you said right up until a modicum or a great deal with deaung modicum or a great deal with dealing in so many giant unknowns but we do not because we do know because the cases have the cases drop without vaccine we would not at this stage without the people who if you like sacrificed in terms of experiment as you would probably think of it , to have the vaccine think of it, to have the vaccine because them risking themselves as you would see it, we are now at a situation where are pretty much okay with it and what suppose what i'm trying to get to and what i'm interested in is that level of language. how describe it to me now compared to what i saw what i've seen you on tv and. i was actually on tv with you and i didn't get a word in edgewise. you were talking to i was on a time wouldn't share with you you were talking about it and is the level of emotion level of a vehement that come
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from yourself included. i was i would i don't say i'm vehemently righteous. well okay that's my subjective view of what you are saying and i don't think is being given back in the other direction and i think it shows something what i think you i think you must be very naive if you think that's not the case. anti—vaxxers are the most virulent angry , entitled people virulent angry, entitled people ihave virulent angry, entitled people i have ever read . lives taken i have ever read. lives taken away. i now know all had our lives taken away. lawrence we all had our lives taken . that all had our lives taken. that was the thing. and i think perhaps when you as you say that, i'm wondering if that's why people are so vehement because they had their lives taken away something we and were levelled out they were no longer special we because we would hurt some people didn't have a life and we all did love all across who drive that lives in vans and their ubers and various things their ubers and various things their life didn't get away their life didn't get taken away
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so as class got to so was we as middle class got to sit at home and not spend any money because we were frightened of a virus. but if you of getting a virus. but if you worked on the worked in waitrose on the minimum you worked minimum wage or if you worked somewhere on the minimum somewhere else on the minimum wage, totally it was wage, you just totally it was completely dreadful and you know, have writing. we write know, we have writing. we write , but we write. we rightly applauded the nurses, the doctors, what we forget about the people who worked in supermarkets who who had to keep going and the bus drivers bus drivers because they they were in constant contact . i mean, in constant contact. i mean, that was just awful then. thank goodness the vaccine came along and worked well. they were working even when vaccine didn't come. well. absolutely. and they were heroes and nobody was beating know their mum was copying them now. exactly but they should now. we should. we have we we've just yesterday received the new figures for the national service waiting lists and they're up again . so it's and they're up again. so it's the national health service this that we're people that single government keeps just thrown
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money at, which keeps getting worse and worse and worse. is it fit for purpose? well, i think it's really badly. i think it's the there are far too many administrators . and the reason administrators. and the reason that it's at this stage and we're on our knees and we have excess deaths because people with with cancer, people with heart , people with potential heart, people with potential stroke victims didn't go to the doctors or couldn't get treatment early enough . that is treatment early enough. that is dreadful but but that is that is like a war situation. but the thing with the national health it needs to better organised it needs be it is the people who work within it , needs be it is the people who work within it, you needs be it is the people who work within it , you know, the work within it, you know, the nurses and doctors you encounter are wonderful people. take great and they are on their knees and they are entitled to strike because they claim they come on. well i think they're entitled to strike every being has the right to withdraw their doctors . to withdraw their doctors. nurses are entitled to strike. they are entitled to strike
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because every human being the facti because every human being the fact i don't think should strike . bu fact i don't think should strike. bu dnven fact i don't think should strike. bu driven to it. the fact that nurses have to go to food banks, how how how is that mean ? it's how how how is that mean? it's been lovely talking to you and i will keep all of this stuff and i can just i much more into the guy thank you for meeting taking great pleasure . great pleasure. well that's all for me got conversation was tough anyway up next it's not telling tonight .
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good evening . good evening. i'm good evening . i'm alice porter good evening. i'm alice porter in the gb newsroom it's been confirmed that six young children in the uk have now died from a strep a infection . the uk from a strep a infection. the uk health security agency say they're investigating a rise in rare invasive group strep with five deaths of under tens england since september. a child died in wales last week . health died in wales last week. health officials say they've seen a rise in cases of strep which can cause scarlet fever , though cause scarlet fever, though deaths and serious complications . the infection, a rare neonatal
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and care units are among a list services that will be protected from in the build up to christmas the royal college of nursing has also announced that chemotherapy , dialysis and chemotherapy, dialysis and paediatric intensive will not be impacted . other services will be impacted. other services will be severely reduced for members of the action in england , wales and the action in england, wales and northern ireland are set to industrial action on december the 15th and 20th. gb news understands that health officials are dealing with new cases of diphtheria at the ftx migrant processing centre in kent, the cases were discovered among the more than 2000 channel migrants who've arrived on small boats in recent days . gb news boats in recent days. gb news has obtained exclusive images from inside ftx , revealing some from inside ftx, revealing some of the poor conditions are living in official have told us they believe those positive for diphtheria contracted it while living rough . france sajid javid living rough. france sajid javid has become the latest mp to announce he won't standing at the next general election . the the next general election. the mp for bromsgrove was health

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