channel hello. it's 2 pm. that means it's hello. it's 2 pm. that means wsfime hello. it's 2 pm. that means it's time for real britain. with me, emily carver on your tv , me, emily carver on your tv, radio and online. now we've got a to get stuck into this afternoon. strikes, strikes , afternoon. strikes, strikes, more strikes. health workers, firefighters teachers, lecturers, civil servants , lecturers, civil servants, transport, postal and security workers are all threatening further strike action. there's talk of the army even being

drafted in to help keep the emergency services running. is that right.7 then as top tory sajid javid announces he'll stand down at the next election, i'll be asking, do the tories deserve to survive? and one woman has claimed that the on alcohol at the qatar world cup has made it safer for women to enjoy the game. should britain follow ? i'm not so sure. let me follow? i'm not so sure. let me know what you think. but first, let's get the latest news headunes let's get the latest news headlines bethany . emily, headlines with bethany. emily, thank you. good afternoon. it's minute past two. i'm bethany elsey bringing you up to date from the gb newsroom. parents are being urged , be vigilant and are being urged, be vigilant and look out for symptoms of strep a after six children under the age of ten have died from the infection in uk. symptoms are usually mild, but the uk health security is now investigating rise in severe cases . experts rise in severe cases. experts say that a lack of mixing during the covid 19 pandemic could be

behind drop in immunity. well bacteriologist at the university of aberdeen hugh pennington says spotting early is key because the disease this severe manifestation of the disease is so relatively rare . many doctors so relatively rare. many doctors will have seen a case and they may not have . that high index of may not have. that high index of suspicion. the good news is that treatment straightforward with penicillin. this is not a bug that's developed antibiotic resistance like so many other bacteria , is still sensitive to bacteria, is still sensitive to penicillin . the whole issue penicillin. the whole issue really is carrying the penicillin in there quickly enough? well nhs gp dr. veena babu told gb news the symptoms parents should look out for strep a presents , the most strep a presents, the most commonly in three ways. you can get a sore, you can get scarlet fever, or you could get a condition called impetigo. so scarlet fever presents as muscle aches , fever. you may get a rash

aches, fever. you may get a rash on the skin, which feels what we call your typical sandpaper rash . so you might get some bumps coming on the skin and that could be on the arms on the chest or on the tummy. i would advise parents what were saying, look, feel and how your kids are feeding . a wealthy russian feeding. a wealthy russian businessman has been arrested on, suspicion of money laundering , conspiracy to laundering, conspiracy to defraud the home office and conspiracy to commit perjury. the 58 year old was arrested at. his multi—million pound home in london by a specialist unit investigating , crime by investigating, crime by oligarchs . two other men were oligarchs. two other men were also arrested in connection with the money laundering . all three the money laundering. all three have since been released bail. in a tweet responding to the arrest, security minister , tom arrest, security minister, tom tugendhat said, we will. our democracy and the kremlin's criminals . the eu g7 and criminals. the eu g7 and australia have agreed a price cap on russian oil in an effort to stop moscow from the energy crisis . the limit

to stop moscow from the energy crisis. the limit is $60 a barrel, while on friday russian crude oil was trading at around $67 a barrel. a senior aide to ukraine's president says the price should be capped at $30 to hit russia's economy harder. the secretary has warned that president putin could ease talks with ukraine as an opportunity to re—arm russian . speaking to to re—arm russian. speaking to the daily telegraph, james cleverly there's a risk that a ceasefire would be used by the russian president to train up more troops and produce more ammunition . in other news , the ammunition. in other news, the immigration minister has defended the government's handung defended the government's handling of migrants crossing the english channel after more than 44,000 have reached british shores year. speaking to robert jenrick said migrant crossings is a priority for the government. also admitted it could cost conservatives at the next election if numbers aren't reduced . mr. jenrick said uk and

reduced. mr. jenrick said uk and french authorities need to work together. we've tried to negotiate with the french. the home secretary signed a deal just a few weeks ago, which is an improvement on the situation. but it isn't the answer. it's certainly not a silver bullet. it does mean that will be more french officers on the beaches intercepting boats . but arrests intercepting boats. but arrests are low and it doesn't seem to break the people smugglers business. so we're clearly going to have to go much further that. some of that will be diplomatic . rishi sunak seems to have built a rapport with president macron but a lot of it's going to be harder edged than that. it's going to be using our national crime agency, police, security hq to go upstream . security hq to go upstream. police have charged a person with murder after . two teenage with murder after. two teenage boys were fatally stabbed in south—east london last weekend . south—east london last weekend. 18 year old hussain bar has been charged murder after 216 year

olds were stabbed , death just olds were stabbed, death just a mile apart . olds were stabbed, death just a mile apart. two others aged 16 and 15, appeared at bexley court yesterday , charged with murder. yesterday, charged with murder. they were both remanded in custody . there's a limited custody. there's a limited easing of covid restriction in two major cities in in the southern city of shenzhen. residents will no be required to show a negative covid test result to use public transport or to enter public parks. and in the capital, beijing testing booths have been shut and removed , and the negative test removed, and the negative test is no longer needed to shop in a supermarket . it follows several supermarket. it follows several days of protests against years of strict coronavirus coronavirus measures . thousands coronavirus measures. thousands of tsa members are to walk out on the 17th of december in a dispute overjobs on the 17th of december in a dispute over jobs and on the 17th of december in a dispute overjobs and conditions dispute over jobs and conditions . services from six further train operators are expected to be affected on top of the two

previously announced . the union previously announced. the union says its members feel are being treated with contempt train companies and the government. while the department for transport has urged unions and rail operators to work together to find a resolution and in the nhs neonatal and critical care units are among the services that will be from strikes in the build up to christmas. the royal college of nursing says chemotherapy delay and paediatric intensive care will also not be impacted during planned industrial action on the 15th and 20th of december. of the services will be severely reduced . matt has revealed he reduced. matt has revealed he was warned covid 19 could kill hundreds of thousands people in the uk. two months before the country was placed under lockdown. in new book, the former health secretary said the chief medical officer for england , professor chris whitty england, professor chris whitty , told him in january 2020 that

in a worst case scenario, 820,000 people could die . the 820,000 people could die. the independent mp for west suffolk , his first appearance in the house of commons yesterday after taking part in i'm a celebrity, get me out of here in australia , a company makes plastic alternative packaging from seaweed has become the first uk winner of prince william's prize. knopfler is one of five entrepreneurs who've been awarded entrepreneurs who've been awarde d £1,000,000 to scale up awarded £1,000,000 to scale up their green innovation projects. the of wales says the earthshot solution's prove we can overcome climate change and change our future . and today marks , 30 future. and today marks, 30 years since the first ever text message was sent, one in three people still send receive sms messages every day. the first text was sent by engineer neil papworth in december 1992. it read christmas. he told gb news

he had no idea it would turn into something so big . instead into something so big. instead of carrying around a clunky analogue phone and a pager their hip, you would you be able to combine those two devices. and you know, our secretary has something could send a message to a guy that's on the road and you that's pretty much what we thought about back then. but we had no idea it was going to turn into the monster. it is today, that's for sure . you're up to that's for sure. you're up to date on gb celebrity mornings as it happens . now let's get back it happens. now let's get back to emily . to emily. welcome back to real britain with me, emily carver. so here's what's coming up on the show. rmt secretary lynch is back. he the winter strikes will go . but the winter strikes will go. but it's not just trains . thousands it's not just trains. thousands of workers across many sectors of workers across many sectors of the economy, including at heathrow airport . nurses, postal

heathrow airport. nurses, postal staff and employees have announced strike action during the festive period . then as the festive period. then as former chancellor and health secretary sajid javid becomes the latest tory mp to announce will stand down at the next general election. i'll be asking is it the case of i'm a tory? get out of here. and according one female football fan, the alcohol ban helps female fans enjoy hassle free football in qatar . she'll enjoy hassle free football in qatar. she'll join me later on to discuss why. so that's what we've got to talk about for the next hour. i'd love to know your thoughts on all of that. do you think the conservative party is basically finished? all basically finished? they all seem jumping . at least seem to be jumping. at least tweet at news. let me what tweet me at gb news. let me what you you email me you think. or you can email me on gbviews@gbnews.uk . of course, on gbviews@gbnews.uk. of course, you can watch us online on youtube. thank you very much for watching . be back in a second . watching. be back in a second. oh, dear. is anyone else finding our tell all culture ever so slightly tedious in the same

week as the so hard done by prince and princess of montecito gifted us their netflix trailer a glimpse into their upcoming fly on the wall docu series . the fly on the wall docu series. the disgraced former health secretary matt hancock, fresh home from . his lucrative stint home from. his lucrative stint in the jungle is blessing us again with his panda diary. what again with his panda diary. what a time to alive. this diary will reveal his side of the story, a story that will be released just in time for christmas fillers with part one published in the daily mail today alongside, of course, yet another cringe worthy sit down tell video interview. he's asking us yet again for forgiveness . but he again for forgiveness. but he only broke the rules. he forced each and every one of us because he fell in love attempting to justify his adultery, as if he's cut some hapless randy teenager unable to control his urges rather than a fully grown man tasked with leading us out a pandemic. one might think that the way to win back the hearts and minds of the public would be to dedicate rest of his to dedicate the rest of his political to the people, political career to the people, the supposedly

the constituency supposedly there to represent . but no. there to represent. but no. instead, he cleanses his soul in pubuc instead, he cleanses his soul in public and it would seem in an uninformed fortunate number of us are more than happy to it up. he came third in i'm a celebrity. get me out of here after mr. hancock will after all. so, mr. hancock will clean up with what's reported to be millions of pounds. the rest of us back in real britain are left the cost of left picking up the cost of disastrous lockdown policies , disastrous lockdown policies, the policies he himself thought were. he was too big, important and besotted to follow . they get and besotted to follow. they get to move on from their mistakes and make shed loads of money in the process while we live with the process while we live with the consequences . at the same the consequences. at the same time the awkward duo chris whitty and patrick vallance doubled down on the righteousness of their lockdown policies. new report . they policies. in a new report. they did though warn we face a prolonged period of excess deaths due to lockdown effects. i don't remember appearing on one of their enviously tedious slideshows . officials are now slideshows. officials are now warning that lockdown policies could have left of us with weakened immune systems impacting those who were least

at risk of covid children . six at risk of covid children. six children have now died of strep a this winter. what is usually a mild bug but can in the most severe cases be lethal . it is severe cases be lethal. it is nearly five times higher among infants than covid struck. science ists have said the decision to close schools and keep children apart during lockdown left a wider pool of youngsters without immunity to the bacteria . who could have the bacteria. who could have possibly foreseen that might come to be . just like meghan possibly foreseen that might come to be .just like meghan and come to be. just like meghan and harry who likely never admit they too have played a part in they too have played a part in the breakdown of their relationship with the royal family . it appears those family. it appears those responsible for some of the most authoritarian policies our countries have ever faced and decisions that cost lives and will to cost lives are doing they can to make the most of their newfound fame. it seems we love tell all in this country . love tell all in this country. we're also smart. certainly enough to see through the shameless self promotion . so

shameless self promotion. so what i think let me know. i am so fed up of all these tells it seems that you can cleanse your on the public stage and all is forgiven. but i for one don't buy it anyway . we've got quite buy it anyway. we've got quite the winter ahead from rail workers to nurses university to postmen. tens of workers across key sectors are set to walk out this month as seek better pay and working . this month as seek better pay and working. in this month as seek better pay and working . in fact, the and working. in fact, the strikes are now so widespread that the country is going to face at least a strike day in the run up to christmas, with the run up to christmas, with the army now being put on standby to prop up the nhs . the standby to prop up the nhs. the times are reporting that nurses are preparing to walk out of a&e and refuse to provide cancer treatment during two days of nhs strikes before christmas. minister hugh merriman met the rmt general secretary , mick rmt general secretary, mick lynch, this week to try and negotiate end to the december strikes . but yesterday the tsa strikes. but yesterday the tsa union announced more strikes in a further six train operating

companies. that's in light warnings. the action will cost the over 1.7 billion. action network, rail and 14 train companies is currently set to next tuesday. now, to give their thoughts on this, we've got party industrial organiser and trade unionist rob williams and the ever erudite political commentator emma webb. thank you very much for joining commentator emma webb. thank you very much forjoining me. so rob, thank you for joining us from outside, it seems. so across the country people are also suffering really with the result of the cost of living crisis. are you worried that these may compound matters ? no these may compound matters? no think this strikes if anything, they're going to make things better because unless workers fight then unfortunately the cost of living squeeze is going to get more severe. we've already heard stories about food banksin already heard stories about food banks in hospitals that in mind think about that . no actually think about that. no actually the cost of living crisis is a catastrophe . it's not going to catastrophe. it's not going to get any better unless workers

fight. and we are seeing is that when workers are taken action , when workers are taken action, then they are winning pay rises . and those are the pay rises is going to keep the roof over their head. is going to keep the heat on over this winter. and that's what workers need at the moment . but don't you accept moment. but don't you accept that the hole country, including those in the sector and also those in the sector and also those working in the private sector, pensioners, etc. alike, are all suffering the consequences of inflation . do consequences of inflation. do you consider that perhaps there isn't simply the money to pay for inflation busting pay rises ? well, i tell you , it's not the ? well, i tell you, it's not the case that everyone's in the same. not if you're a chief executive , but i view it. the executive, but i view it. the average wage of them is something like £4 million a yeah something like £4 million a year. not if you talk people like that a business, etc. are they doing very nice. thank you very much. not the energy companies that making record profits . so yes, the vast

profits. so yes, the vast majority people are suffering . majority people are suffering. and that's why i think strike action has been taken is going to be popular. that will be popular. and i think that that is why when are forced to take action just remember this the royal college of nursing this is the first time they will ever take action . in england and take action. in england and wales is the last thing they want to do. but they've had a fifth of their income taken away in last 12 years. they've got no and working class people , and working class people, working class communities are fully behind . now eva, you're fully behind. now eva, you're a supporter of workers rights and large, i would imagine. do you think that there is a strong case here that nhs workers, postal worker as railway workers deserve a of a bump for their hard work ? like i think this is hard work? like i think this is and i think that frontline workers, of course i think they be paid more. in fact, i think that the nhs needs serious reform off that fat from the top . those who are working in jobs like equality, inclusion,

diversity roles and giving that money to the hospital porters to the nurses, absolutely . but i the nurses, absolutely. but i think that this is ultimately cutting our nose to spite our face, whether these works in the pubuc face, whether these works in the public sector , in the private public sector, in the private sector, in the private sector, they're damaging the economy, which end. and businesses which end. and the businesses that work for, which that they work for, which affects amount money that is affects the amount money that is available to around in the in available to go around in the in the public sector , everybody the public sector, everybody across the board is facing a really hard time right now. and when we hear from nurses and like i said, i do think that nurses should paid more. but i don't think that they should necessarily any any workers whose job puts people's lives at risk if they're not able do it properly, i'm not sure whether they should even be allowed to strike in this way. and the idea that we've been told that this isn't going to affect patient is nonsense, because otherwise strike would make no sense at all. so i think people's lives will be put at by. this is the same with firefighters strikes obviously different need to be

spoken about separately and distinctively . but you know , distinctively. but you know, ultimately, i think that we will what public opinion is , because what public opinion is, because i think it will be sad to say that all of those working class people , the self—employed, who people, the self—employed, who will be very, very badly hit by all of these strikes , i don't all of these strikes, i don't think this is going to be popular at all. i think it's going to be a disaster for the country. now, rob, isn't that the point. you know, the nurses, for we were told for example, we were told the union no, nobody's union there that no, nobody's lives put risk. but now lives would be put risk. but now we today that the royal we hear today that the royal college of nursing is saying that cancer wards , care all that cancer wards, care all could be impacted they won't be excluded . this strike action. excluded. this strike action. lives be put at risk. the times done an analysis that shows hundreds of thousands of appointments, hundreds of operations could be delayed even further. should you not be arguing for reform of the nhs rather than for further strike action ? well first of all, action? well first of all, i think nursing unions and health

unions will put emergency cover on. but of course, the issue is, isn't it an interruption of . let isn't it an interruption of. let me just interrupt there . let me me just interrupt there. let me make this very quickly . what i'm make this very quickly. what i'm saying is, is that operations are cancelled now people dying now because the nhs is in a catastrophic position . and i catastrophic position. and i want to say there should be reform . yes, there should be. reform. yes, there should be. reform but the reform that needs to happen is to reverse the erosion of health service, the bringing in of the private when it's been raised just, know that we trim the fat from the top . we trim the fat from the top. then what that means is getting rid of the private sector , the rid of the private sector, the ip managers , the senior managers ip managers, the senior managers , as in the nhs, basically just says what we need to do is reinstitute the nhs as the as the body that it has been . and the body that it has been. and those health workers are fighting defend. yes. well i

think the key issue here . so think the key issue here. so a lot of people have a lot of respect for nurses , of course, respect for nurses, of course, respect for nurses, of course, respect for nurses, of course, respect for rail workers, respect for rail workers, respect for rail workers, respect for postal workers. but the problem is that their business models aren't working. if you look at royal mail, if you look at their business model for they're apparently losing you look at their business model for they're apparently losin g £1 for they're apparently losing £1 million per day . yet those million per day. yet those workers who are strike aren't willing to change their working practises same with the rail workers . is practises same with the rail workers. is all this striking? not rather self that it may actually lead to more redundancies because of amount of money that's lost by this type of action? emily you've nailed it completely. and i think the issue with the nhs is, is a serious entrenched problem within just throwing more money . the nhs isn't going to solve this problem . it clearly needs this problem. it clearly needs radical reform and that will be in the best interests. also of the staff, particularly the nurses and, those doctors working on the front, nurses and, those doctors working on the front , because working on the front, because the way of doing things the current way of doing things is sustainable. but these strikes not to help. strikes are not going to help. they're going actually they're going to actually make the . yes,

the situation worse. yes, i think you're right. you very much for joining think you're right. you very much forjoining me. that was much for joining me. that was socialist party industrial organiser trade unionist rob organiser and trade unionist rob continuities and political commentator milloy. thank you very much both for your time now more to come this afternoon on real. more to come this afternoon on real . what do you think about real. what do you think about those strikes? do you still have sympathy? after the break, as former chancellor and health secretary sajid javid , the secretary sajid javid, the latest tory mp to announce he will stand down at the next general election. i'll be asking . oh, they abandoning the tories sinking ship. but first, let's have a look at the weather stay tuned . looking ahead to this tuned. looking ahead to this evening's weather, amber uk is looking cold but cloudy for most with showers affecting eastern areas. let's take a look at details. it will be mostly dry across southwestern england with across southwestern england with a mix of clear spells and scattered chiefly across devon and, cornwall and a keen wind will make it feel rather cold. a northeasterly breeze across the south—east will make it feel

cold with coasts being particularly exposed . it will particularly exposed. it will remain rather cloudy, but and bit cloudy across wales. but a few outbreak ticks are possible, particularly the west and there is an outside chance of an isolated shower rotate . but it isolated shower rotate. but it will be mostly dry across the midlands on saturday evening will be dry, rather cloudy , but will be dry, rather cloudy, but with clear spells, especially in the west, there is a chance of a few showers, mainly in the east . it will feel cold everywhere . . it will feel cold everywhere. an easterly wind will feed westwards across northeastern and some of these will be heavy turn wintry in the highest peaks , rain and drizzle will slowly clear west northwest scotland throughout the evening elsewhere. it's generally cloudy with some clear spells and. isolated showers affecting 40 east coast, a few showers will continue to affect east and coasts . northern ireland, most coasts. northern ireland, most places will remain dry with clear spells developing feeling chilly overnight lows of four degrees celsius overnight. we'll see further showers in the east

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radio. now former chancellor and home secretary sajid javid has announced that he will stand as announced that he will stand as an mp at the next election, becoming the 13th sitting conservative to do so. meanwhile today it was revealed that tory mp conor burns has had the whip restored after he was sacked as trade minister october following an allegation of serious misconduct . and to discuss this, misconduct. and to discuss this, i'm joined in the studio by gb news political catherine foster . so can you give me a bit of a rundown? why has such decided to make this decision? well it was obviously it hot on the heels of the chester by—election result, but it was rumoured for a while he was thinking of standing down, though his team had denied it . and i suppose. well guess he it. and i suppose. well guess he can see which way the wind appears to be blowing. he's the to say that he's not going to stand again. but obviously he's the first super, super high profile . but really, i suppose

profile. but really, i suppose he's been in the cabinet for most of the time since 2010 when he came in. he's had various big offices of state including most obviously chancellor. he was chancellor before rishi sunak came in when he resigned and he's run for leadership twice, most noticeably just five months ago, unsuccessful . and i suppose ago, unsuccessful. and i suppose he thinks , where do i go from he thinks, where do i go from here? and he's only 52. he's come from the city he's already apparently making his way back offers . there's talks about offers. there's talks about going back to the and i guess that's very tempting now am right in thinking that out of the 13 tory mps that have decided to stand down at the next all they mostly new tory mps that were elected at the last election or is it a real mixture. it's a real mix. i mean, you've got people like charles walker who's been an mp for a long time, right through to somebody like who only came in in 2019 whose only 29 but

what is quite about, i think, is the age really quite young you know you'd expect there's about 12 labour mp said they're not going to stand again but they're mostly over 60 that people like dame margaret hodge , harriet dame margaret hodge, harriet harman, understood all harman, that's understood all but some of the conservatives , but some of the conservatives, william wragg, he's only 34. chloe smith that was recently work . and pensions secretary, work. and pensions secretary, she's only 40. so these are people that could have had long political careers could it be ahead of them? could it be that the sort of fairweather pollitt is that they quite enjoyed when bofis is that they quite enjoyed when boris had that massive bounce , boris had that massive bounce, they haven't been sure of who they haven't been sure of who they want be the prime minister, who they want leading their party, ousted boris. and party, having ousted boris. and then of course, liz truss. could it be that it's just a little bit difficult? it's a tricky at the moment. so they'd rather sort of crack on with something else. possibly else. but they could possibly earn money. yes, i think earn more money. yes, i think so. and also, i think they're exhausted. they've when

exhausted. i mean, they've when you of what we've been you think of what we've been a scottish referendum , multiple scottish referendum, multiple general elections , conservative general elections, conservative leaders , the brexit vote and leaders, the brexit vote and this year alone, three prime ministers. it's a lot. so yes , ministers. it's a lot. so yes, looking and they're thinking well i'm quite likely to lose my seat two years. so perhaps i'll start thinking now about what i'm going do. but of course for the conservative party it's not a good look, is it? which is terrible. desperate to unite party behind them and try somehow or other to steer them towards a possible . it doesn't towards a possible. it doesn't look very likely, but victory in two years time, but at the moment it looks likely that labour will win and the more mps say, well actually i'm not going to . well, the standing again, to. well, the standing again, the more likely becomes. yes, it's not a great look particularly think rishi particularly when i think rishi sunak's ratings are sunak's approval ratings are pretty bottom , of course pretty rock bottom, of course not as low as liz truss as well. i must ask you quickly about conor burns, because that is the breaking his whip breaking news today. his whip has restored or whip

has been restored or the whip has been restored or the whip has restored him. yes. so has been restored him. yes. so he sacked as trade minister he was sacked as trade minister back october and had the whip removed immediately. it was an allegation that he touched a young man's thigh at a conservative party conference. now, the complaint was not made by the person whose thigh he touched. it was made by who'd witnessed it . and wendy morton witnessed it. and wendy morton was chief whip at the time, acted extremely quickly , very acted extremely quickly, very keen, i suppose, to have a sort of zero friendly approach to quickly, as it turned out, because now the investigation has found that he has no case to answer and he has been to hell and back, he says, over the last two months now he's been reinstated. but i think is worth saying that those allegations now in the last couple of days about another unnamed conservative mp that a of conservative mp that a of conservative mps have complained about very if allegations of sexual misconduct including rape and that mp is still currently a

member of conservative party and still walking parliament going to smear . still walking parliament going to smear. it's not looking very good for the conservative party these days. what tory mp is jumping ship and allegations of rape and sexual misconduct and things could be looking a little brighter for them. thank you very much for joining brighter for them. thank you very much forjoining us in the studio was catherine studio today. that was catherine foster, political foster, of course, our political editor , political reporter. i editor, political reporter. i can't your title. thank can't remember your title. thank you much . you're with gb you very much. you're with gb news, of course, on tv , on news, of course, on tv, on dab radio . the break according radio after. the break according to one female football fan, the alcohol ban in qatar helps female fans enjoy hassle free football . she'll join me later football. she'll join me later on to discuss. football. she'll join me later on to discuss . why do you think on to discuss. why do you think football matches should be booze free is the nanny state free or is that the nanny state gone me know. surely we gone mad? let me know. surely we shouldn't lessons shouldn't be taking any lessons from rights . from qatar on women's rights. let what you think. the let me know what you think. the first time to check on the first is time to check on the news we'll back in news headlines. we'll be back in just tick . news headlines. we'll be back in just tick. emily thank you. just a tick. emily thank you. good afternoon. it's 232. i'm bethany elsey , the gb newsroom.

bethany elsey, the gb newsroom. parents are being urged to be vigilant and look out for symptoms of strep a after six children under the age ten have died from the infection in the uk. symptoms are mild, but the uk. symptoms are mild, but the uk health security agency is now investigating rise in severe cases. investigating rise in severe cases . experts say that a lack cases. experts say that a lack of mixing during the covid 19 pandemic could be behind a drop in immunity . a wealthy russian in immunity. a wealthy russian businessman has been arrested on of money laundering conspire c to defraud the home office and conspiracy to commit perjury . conspiracy to commit perjury. the 58 year old was arrested at his multi million pound home in london by a specialist police unit investigating oligarchs . unit investigating oligarchs. two other men were also arrested in connection with the money laundering . all three have since laundering. all three have since been released on bail. in a tweet responding , the arrest tweet responding, the arrest security minister tom toucan said we will defend our democracy and hunt kremlin's criminals . police have charged

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welcome back to real britain with me, emily on gb news on tv onune with me, emily on gb news on tv online and on your digital radio . now brexit. according to a study by the centre for economic leaving the eu has added study by the centre for economic leaving the eu has adde d £210 to leaving the eu has added £210 to the average british food bill over the two years to the end of 2021. the team , the study said 2021. the team, the study said that their findings confirm that brexit alone had increased food pnces brexit alone had increased food prices by 6. and since lower income families spend a greater proportion of their income on food , they were being hit food, they were being hit hardest by britain's to leave the you. but is the study . to the you. but is the study. to discuss this i'm joined the former labour minister for europe dennis mcshane. dennis have you looked at this report? have you looked at this report? have you looked at this report? have you looked at the methodology? yes not a school of economics . i methodology? yes not a school of economics. i don't methodology? yes not a school of economics . i don't normally. methodology? yes not a school of economics. i don't normally. my alma mater . economics. i don't normally. my alma mater. oh, economics. i don't normally. my alma mater . oh, well, there we alma mater. oh, well, there we are . i was very clever. alma mater. oh, well, there we are . i was very clever . lsc are. i was very clever. lsc trade people . it seems about

trade people. it seems about right . bear trade people. it seems about right. bear in trade people. it seems about right . bear in mind , it trade people. it seems about right. bear in mind , it stops at right. bear in mind, it stops at the age of 2021. so this is prepaid . i mean, food prices. we prepaid. i mean, food prices. we messed up the pandemic. sunflower oil is going out. grain is going up. lots of things are getting more scarce . things are getting more scarce. the very hot summers, the potatoes are pricier. bird flu costing a rise in prices for chickens and turkeys. but yes , chickens and turkeys. but yes, it's the old, old brexit love affair with red tape, i.e. brexit equals red tape. more to fill in. okay for supermarkets, they could pay a super full fiddler on line , but for lots fiddler on line, but for lots lots of the lovely we go to import things from europe. that leads forbes. forbes. forbes now, i'm not denying as a brexit voter. i must admit that i have some skin in the game as it were. i must say that now i've had a little at this data that they've used . this was a report they've used. this was a report that was actually published back in april as well as a sort of

reappeared in the press this week that actually price inflation between december 2019 and december 2021 was 2.9% in the uk, and that was lower than in the euro area where it was 4.5. i query whether they know that inflation in food prices the uk has been down to non barriers brought on by brexit or whether it's just total guesswork . it's impossible to guesswork. it's impossible to tell considering the fact that we've gone through such a circum stances with the pandemic energy pnces stances with the pandemic energy prices , whatnot. well, that's prices, whatnot. well, that's perfectly . but you're the lsc perfectly. but you're the lsc every not me. i mean , couldn't every not me. i mean, couldn't even do like spencers correctly, so you could have would hazard a guess that it has an agenda . guess that it has an agenda. you. i don't think so . i mean you. i don't think so. i mean the job is challenged by everybody. we bought carly for example said something about britain as poor, the germany a very well—known economist, professor portas of king's college jumped out his throat and sort of it would destroy him supporters is a great pro—european but here he is

trashing about who is sort of advancing the brexit case . now advancing the brexit case. now we've got even problems . now we've got even problems. now there's a report again this week that the government has imported several hundred thousand, 2000 indonesian workers all the way from indonesia , cost 4500 a head from indonesia, cost 4500 a head .bnng from indonesia, cost 4500 a head . bring them here. why to pick vegetables , fruit and prepare it vegetables, fruit and prepare it . because you won't find a brit doing job. but isn't that something we need to address? i think most people so we've got a people's poll that we're going to be coming to later. the majority of people think that immigration is too high to this country, particularly off the back astonishing back of those astonishing net migration figures. i a lot migration figures. i think a lot of thinking , you know of people are thinking, you know what, need start focusing what, we need to start focusing the who are here. and if the people who are here. and if people doing jobs, well, people doing these jobs, well, perhaps should. that perhaps they should. that would be . but we've never, be wonderful. but we've never, ever throughout british history or probably back into the 18th century or something . we all century or something. we all used to be forgive me, many people from ireland who would come and do all of this work.

you know what? i was a younger man before you were born. it was people from pakistan or bangladesh and all of them go up the pace they go to the elysee, they get professional do very well like really sunak suella braverman or sajid javid and their children don't go to the fields again. so but we're part we've got the opportune to see if we want to take it we all take don't take it and it'll be more expensive to help ourselves to some of that poorer european labour market pool. you're not going to get a very small horticultural farmer just producing or leeks to pay horticultural farmer just producing or leeks to pa y £20 an producing or leeks to pay £20 an hour to get them dug out of the ground. is qe do qe d and this is where that part of brexit that voted to leave the treaty that's fair enough is just we're passing our own through away from the free movement argument which of course there are many pros and cons of such a policy. and lots of people do lament losing free movement as one of

the conditions of brexit . but i the conditions of brexit. but i think a lot of people annoyed that there doesn't seem to be a lot of perspective from some the most ardent remainer those who continue to fight the last battles. because if you look at germany for example their food inflation running at about 20, which is quite bit higher than it is in this country now. that can't be because of brexit. i don't believe germany gets much of its food from britain so they won't be impacted by non—tariff barriers . so, you know, i think barriers. so, you know, i think when we look at britain, we always seem to talk it down rather than talk about the opportunities that we do have every 20. that seems to me be very, very high. i a strange but if you don't know i'm not disputing you'll figure october just as you were disputing the lhc electoral elysee graduate . lhc electoral elysee graduate. yeah it works out good choices of deutschland i know germany i was in paris last i'm going to brussels this coming week and

always thought you know , i was always thought you know, i was going to of supermarkets to buy know one or two little things you can't get so easily or cheaply here. yes i notice a food price inflation yeah nobody is denying that at all but actually the problem really is that though, if i may put your side of the family or cab or the elysee graduate association , elysee graduate association, none of you are defending brexit anymore. i'm not. i can tell you. think about this food. think i read about. i'm defending brexit. i mean, what brexit has achieved is to show is essentially that all domestic has it can no longer be off the hook and blame brussels for that goes wrong in our country which i think is a good that is true but when you look out we were told the brexit would cut inflation it's just had the biggest on sounds biggest fall hang on that sounds fair. i'm i'm simply fair. well i'm i'm simply i don't want to fight 2016. i see you're 2026 where there'll be a review of the current treaty, the trade and cooperation . i

the trade and cooperation. i think a fair chance of the new government. i don't know. i'm a labour guy but you know believe me i never it's that way until their cost though that may be right . the cbi reshapes what right. the cbi reshapes what through moaning. this is a low permanent wine, isn't it? but they do want to attack their friends most of them and actually more conservative leading . and they hope mr. sunak leading. and they hope mr. sunak will be a much better prime minister, that his two predecessor faces . but i think predecessor faces. but i think one is a labour government and i all, all bets will be off and i think you'll find business reshapes. of course the daily the sun blaming keir starmer as prime minister when prices go off and people can't travel , off and people can't travel, suddenly people will say, oh , suddenly people will say, oh, brexit will happen year ten years ago, different decade and britain will move. but this is where keir starmer now i don't, i don't wish to be rude but perhaps is ever so slightly dupuchous perhaps is ever so slightly duplicitous because all remember keir starmer, or at least of us will remember most of our

viewers , i'm sure will remember viewers, i'm sure will remember that he was very much a champion of a second referendum. he did want thwart the result he would have liked the result very much to have been different and he made that clear. he thought to have been different and he made that clear . he thought the made that clear. he thought the british people have british people should have another voting okay another go at it voting okay that's to say i would hazard a guess that if he like the elysee have done with this report that he will attempt to bring britain very much closer to the european union if to not some point in this you're not reading anything he says you're not reading my inbox pro europeans who are furious with sir keir so he's no different from boris johnson . different from boris johnson. you say so, but i keep saying it. i mean, keepsakes. rishi sunak never wants to mention europe. there was. what's a question on europe? we understand that . but sir keir understand that. but sir keir p0ps understand that. but sir keir pops up. it was every occasion to say no free movement, no single market, no customs union. you all have to go away and sort out all these problem and, i'd

say go the country now . sure, say go the country now. sure, there was a labour party policy at the time. i argue the guardian against putting all eggsin guardian against putting all eggs in the second referendum basket. why heavily ? because i basket. why heavily? because i think it's a had the second referendum two years ago or last year the british would have voted don't voted the same way. they don't like granted . like being taken for granted. but you know i've got influence over labour party policy . that over labour party policy. that was jeremy corbyn policy . and was jeremy corbyn policy. and the one thing we know, i mean, i doubt if mr. corbyn still in the labour party has been stopped from standing as a candidate by sir starmer. i i mean you sir keir starmer. i i mean you should read the complaints by. michael you know, the very michael crick you know, the very famous reporter famous piece. reporter he is going no cross across on twitter. say stop is a stalinists is stopping all the left wing. i am standing . i just left wing. i am standing. ijust think, you know, we look at the european union and a lot of over here in like to say that we're a uniquely terrible position when it comes to a lot of things whether it comes to our economy

in general or whether it comes to attitudes in this country , to attitudes in this country, whether it comes to trade, etc, etc. inflation and whatnot . and etc. inflation and whatnot. and it just doesn't stand up to the evidence if you actually look at the data, i mean, i just the data, i mean, ijust mentioned that food inflation in germany is much higher. we talk about how inflation is going up. we talk about how the energy crisis impacting countries. germany on 45% the other day germany was on 45% the other day for on for its electricity generation it's not all sunny uplands is in the eu but it could very well be for us as a free trading nation around the world. well, look , i mean, i, world. well, look, i mean, i, i for my pains i spent 50 years before i became an mp i had to go to exile when heroine she might be your harry margaret was elected. no heroin i had elected. i have no heroin i had to leave the country so i worked in germany and france languages and i couldn't with you more. i've written four books of brexit and all them insist europe . you talking about the eu europe. you talking about the eu is dull this france, this the

netherlands. the spain. this germany the sweden is greece . germany the sweden is greece. countries are completely different from the other. there's no homogenous eu out there now . the fact is that our there now. the fact is that our electric vehicle production has been transferred out . this been transferred out. this country, our british volt battery super mm. won't be built . the paris bulls are supposed stock exchange now it's more valuable. the london stock exchange . this is small stuff. exchange. this is small stuff. well, actually i would i would also query , but we're going to also query, but we're going to have to move on. thank you very much for taking such a nice section of your day out for gb news. and thank you much for joining us. we won't agree on brexit and please, you tell brexit and please, can you tell the remainers twitter stop the remainers on twitter stop being they can be you being so nasty. they can be you know, they have to have a little troop and they bully you i mean, you should , but i'm too old to you should, but i'm too old to be bullied. but you should see the stuff i get from. well get very but i wouldn't very nasty stuff. but i wouldn't wouldn't blame on misogyny. wouldn't blame it on misogyny. of . of course. i wouldn't

of course. of course. i wouldn't play of course. of course. i wouldn't play gender thank you play the gender card. thank you very of course, very much. that, of course, was denis , former labour denis macshane, former labour minister europe, there minister for europe, there talking brexit and whether talking about brexit and whether it's led to further inflation in this country. now completely moving on to another subject we're staying international female who have gone to female football who have gone to qatar to watch the world cup say that pleasantly that they have been pleasantly surprised sexist surprised by how little sexist abuse have been subjected to which some are attributing to the decision. decision by the country's royal family to ban the sale of alcohol around stadiums , the lack of football stadiums, the lack of football hooliganism qatar has led to chief constable mark roberts, who's in charge of the football policing, saying that the government should not ease restrictions the sale of alcohol it football games in the okay so give her thoughts is ellie morrison from the her game to campaign who is actually out in qatar us ellie so please you tell me what it's been like as a young female football fan over in qatar . young female football fan over in qatar. it's young female football fan over in qatar . it's been really good in qatar. it's been really good , actually. like i say, i was expecting things to be quite

given, but it's up in the media is expect things to be dangerous but come here and i've experienced no sexist abuse i've not had any catcalling, no whistling , none of that. so whistling, none of that. so which always is something quite different to someone. you go to in the uk . and it was really eye in the uk. and it was really eye opening be in the stadiums, it absolutely no i didn't see whatsoever as far as the games i've been to , which again is i've been to, which again is something a little bit different and there is a bit of a trade. obviously this is not explicit. there is not so much there is a difference in the atmosphere. it definitely not as toxic, but it has been really eye opening for me . i'm just shocked when i me. i'm just shocked when i arrived. now ellie, i must challenge you on something because. you've painted a pretty nice picture of . it is out nice picture of. it is out there, but i'm you know that things for women in qatar aren't particularly rosy in many respects they need male

guardians in order to make basic decisions i believe they were only allowed drive male only allowed to drive male permission only years ago and of . th permission only years ago and of. th women are downtrodden one might say in do you think perhaps qatar is putting a bit of a facade here trying show that they're an open country, but actually much more sordid underneath ? i think in terms of underneath? i think in terms of the i'm talking about like the sexual harassment , things like sexual harassment, things like that. i think that's the facade . i think it can be said in other ways not really showcasing things i want to the female referee and other half in terms of what i've noticed i think thatis of what i've noticed i think that is and i could wrong i don't think it might feel like thatis don't think it might feel like that is the culture then i it makes sense and it's very much in touch culture which is very nice . people do make any nice. people do make any advances , very, very respectful,

advances, very, very respectful, but i can say, and i can tend to know the experiences those in and. i cannot speak for that. i'm not away what they've gone through. i can tell you as a travelling what my experience has been and i think a lot of the media has ignored for example that you can't go anywhere you go if you want to go straight outside and. as a female child i found i feel very safe this thank you very much. i would have loved to have spoken you for longer. i am really, really into alcohol. but we must end the discussion there, the interview there. thank you very much joining all way much for joining me all the way from was ellie from qatar. that was ellie morrison the her to morrison from the her to campaign. please do enjoy the rest your time in. i'm not so rest of your time in. i'm not so sure if we should be taking lessons from qatar of course although we did as someone just reminded me in my inbox, take lessons from the chinese communist party when it came to lockdown. so perhaps, perhaps will end up doing so anyway .

will end up doing so anyway. going to be moving on to a health matter. the uk health security agency has said that six children have died with a strep a infection since september with seven with the seventh child currently fighting for her life in liverpool . strep for her life in liverpool. strep a infections are normally mild , a infections are normally mild, with symptoms such as a sore throat or skin infection but can cause scarlet fever and can therefore be the infection remains unclear again. but the uk health security agency is urging parents who are concerned about their children's symptoms to seek medical advice. to tell us more is dr. bharat pan pan kania ? i believe that's how you kania? i believe that's how you pronounce your name. i've seen a senior clinical lecturer at the university of exeter medical school . now, doctor, would you school. now, doctor, would you tell us a little bit about infection this , this disease? infection this, this disease? i've never heard of it myself before. it was in the news this week. okay. my pleasure . so this week. okay. my pleasure. so this is a infection caused by bacteria. and the bacteria is

name is group a streptococcus. and group of bacteria . they have and group of bacteria. they have different strains of it cause a series of different infections that we're all aware of. let me sort of elucidate so you may be aware of things like cellulite tests that's also caused by group based upper carcase same as impetigo young children get that yellow crusting skin infection , scarlet fever. we infection, scarlet fever. we just severe excessive via streptococcal throat and then of course you can get that toxic shock syndrome from the same bacteria . so what it is it's a bacteria. so what it is it's a range ailments and fortunately in rare circum instances it can go on to become a toxic whereby you can you need life support or . you may even die now why is

this particular infection in impacting such young children? why do you think the rate of infection has increased so substantially , so in comparison substantially, so in comparison to last year , we had four deaths to last year, we had four deaths and this year, unfortunately, we've got six deaths. a number of factors could be at play and the ones that i'm thinking about and looking into are follows. so it could be that we have a more virulent strain of group a streptococcus i.e. virulent strain of group a streptococcus le. a virulent strain that likes to become invasive. so when looked at pubuc invasive. so when looked at public health england , we public health england, we followed up every case of i guess as we call it in group a streptococcus . and what we're streptococcus. and what we're trying to do is see if there is a more invasive, more disease causing strain of group based , causing strain of group based, the carcase. the other one could be that are we ignoring the

complaint of i have sore throat, i am unwell and discarding it as this is viral and taking no action so both could be at play maybe some other factor is at the last factor that i was talking about is as follows it's very difficult tell if you a viral sore throat or you have a bacterial or sore throat. if it is a viral throat, antibiotics don't work. on the other hand . don't work. on the other hand. if it is bacterial, they can give you the penicillin platform . antibiotics and they work very well . let me . antibiotics and they work very well. let me for . antibiotics and they work very well . let me for the benefit of well. let me for the benefit of our viewers, listeners, elicit a little bit more about to how the difference. so if have got a bacterial sore throat which may go on to develop into fever, which may develop into toxic shock, they main signs and symptoms . you have extremely

symptoms. you have extremely painful swollen lymph nodes in your neck and your tonsils are red, raw . they may have an red, raw. they may have an exudate . you have a temperature exudate. you have a temperature of greater than 38 degrees and. you will feel really tired . and you will feel really tired. and you may have what we call a we call it a sun paper rash. it starts in your growing up, your trunk down, your arms, and it looks very ish. and finally , you looks very ish. and finally, you may also have a strawberry tongue. all those are features of a bacterial infection, whereas if is a viral infection and i finish as soon as i've done this as if it is a viral one, you have the following symptoms and signs a cough, a runny nose, reddening of eyes and, a host voice. so if that is case, that's more likely to be viral . and if it is not, it's viral. and if it is not, it's more bacterial. i hope that makes sense. yes. thank you,

doctor. i was very useful, i'm sure, to all viewers who might be concerned by this news. of course i must ask you, though, course. i must ask you, though, scientists have been saying that the in the rate of the increase in the rate of cases of this particular infection may be down to the fact that children were not mixing as much. we're not mixing as much. and we're not building up that immunity because of school closures of the lockdowns . surely you would the lockdowns. surely you would potentially agree with that ? no, potentially agree with that? no, i don't. not at all. if there was any evidence for me think that this is a factor whereby the children are now sub or suboptimal immune? i would say so. i have reason not to share all that information with you. i'm it as it is. i have no that as a result lockdowns, etc. that we are in a state of reduced . we are in a state of reduced. but how can we not be considering the fact that people weren't spreading and mixing all the viruses around ? let, let, the viruses around? let, let, let, let let me expound . so it's let, let let me expound. so it's great to have discussion. so

these are bacteria and at this time , the year , we do see more time, the year, we do see more of these bacterial infection and thatis of these bacterial infection and that is case. in other words, there is nothing fundamentally different this year compared to previous . the only bit is that previous. the only bit is that is different is unfortunately we've had six. that's compared to four last year. but if you look at the evidence for streptococcal infections in country, it is on par previous years. so it's no different . years. so it's no different. it's no different from previous years. thank you very much. i must stop the interview , but must stop the interview, but thank you very much for coming on and explaining all those symptoms that dr. symptoms to us. so that was dr. bharat kania , senior bharat pan kania, senior clinical the clinical lecturer at the university of exeter medical school . thanks very much for university of exeter medical school. thanks very much for his time . you're watching real time. you're watching real britain. here is your latest forecast statute . looking ahead

forecast statute. looking ahead to this evening's weather , the to this evening's weather, the uk is looking cold but cloudy for most with showers affecting eastern areas. let's take a look at the details. it will be mostly dry across south western england with a mix of clear spells and scattered showers, chiefly across devon and cornwall and keen wind will make it feel rather cold. a northeasterly across the southeast will make it feel cold with coasts being exposed? it remain rather cloudy but dry and a bit cloudy across wales. but a few outbreaks are particularly in the west and there is an outside chance of an isolated shower rotate, but it will mostly dry across midlands on saturday evening . it will be saturday evening. it will be dry, rather cloudy with clear spells, especially in west. there is a chance of a few showers, mainly in the east . it showers, mainly in the east. it will feel cold everywhere . an will feel cold everywhere. an easterly wind will feed showers westwards across northeastern blend and some of these will be heavy turn wintry in the highest peaks later. rain and will

slowly clear west across northwest scotland throughout the evening. elsewhere it's generally cloudy with some clear spells and showers affecting the far coast. a few showers will continue to affect eastern coasts of northern ireland. most places will remain dry with clear spells feeling chilly overnight lows of four degrees celsius . overnight, we'll see celsius. overnight, we'll see further showers mainly in the east, but drier west. and that's how the weather is shaping overnight into tomorrow morning morning .

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taking a closer look at or giving people's poll which finds the majority brits think immigration to the uk is too high. we'll be getting to that in just a moment but let's to your latest news headlines first with . emily, thank. your latest news headlines first with . emily, thank . good with bethany. emily, thank. good afternoon. it's 3:03. i'm bethany elsey . the gb newsroom bethany elsey. the gb newsroom parents being urged to be vigilant and look for symptoms of strep a after six children under the age of ten have died from the infection in the uk. symptoms usually mild, but the uk health security agency is now the rise in severe cases. experts say that a lack of mixing during the covid pandemic could be a drop in immunity. bacteriologist at the university of aberdeen, hugh pennington says, spotting it early key because the disease this severe manifestation of the disease is so relatively rare , many doctors

so relatively rare, many doctors will have seen a case and they may not have thought high index of suspicion . the good news is of suspicion. the good news is that treatment is straightforward with penicillin. this is not a bug that's developed antibiotic resistance like so many other bacteria , is like so many other bacteria, is still sensitive penicillin. the hope issue really is can you get a penicillin in there quickly enough ? well, nhs, gp, dr. enough? well, nhs, gp, dr. thampi told gb news the symptoms some parents should look out for. strep presents the most commonly in three ways you can get a sore throat, you can get scarlet fever or, you could get a condition called impetigo. so scarlet fever presents as muscle aches, fever you may get a rash on the skin, which feels what we call typical sandpaper. rash so you might get some bumps up on the skin and that could be on arms, on the chest or the tummy. i would advise parents what we were saying, look, feel and how your kids are feeding . a wealthy

your kids are feeding. a wealthy russian has been arrested on suspicion of money laundering conspiracy to defraud the home office and conspiracy to commit perjury office and conspiracy to commit perjury . the 58 year office and conspiracy to commit perjury. the 58 year old was arrested at his multi million pound home in london by a specialist police unit investigating oligarchs . two investigating oligarchs. two other men were also arrested in connection with the money laundering. all three have since been released bail. in a tweet responding , the arrest security responding, the arrest security minister , tom tugendhat said, we minister, tom tugendhat said, we defend our democracy and hunt the kremlin's criminals. the eu, g7 and australia have agreed a price cap on russian oil in an effort to stop moscow profiting from the energy crisis. the limit is $60 a barrel. on friday, crude oil was trading at around $67 a barrel. a senior aide to ukraine's president says the price should be capped at $30 to hit russia's economy harder. the immigration minister

has defended the government's handung has defended the government's handling of migrants crossing the english channel after. more than 44,000 have reached british shores this year. speaking to robert jenrick said migrant crossings is a priority for the government . he also admitted it government. he also admitted it could cost the conservatives at the next election numbers on reduced . mr. jenrick said uk and reduced. mr. jenrick said uk and french authorities need to work together . the french authorities need to work together. the home french authorities need to work together . the home secretary together. the home secretary signed a deal just a few weeks ago, which is an improvement on the situation . but it isn't the the situation. but it isn't the answer . it's the situation. but it isn't the answer. it's certainly not a silver bullet . it does mean that silver bullet. it does mean that there will be more french officers on the beaches into setting boats. but arrests are low. and it doesn't seem to break the people smugglers business. so we're clearly to have to go much further than that. some of that will be diplomatic . and rishi sunak's diplomatic. and rishi sunak's seems to have built a rapport with president macron . but a lot with president macron. but a lot of it's going to be harder edged

than that. police have charged a third person with murder . two third person with murder. two teenage boys were fatally stabbed in south—east london last weekend. 18 year old hussain bower has been charged with murder after 216 year olds were stabbed to death just a mile apart . were stabbed to death just a mile apart. two were stabbed to death just a mile apart . two others, were stabbed to death just a mile apart. two others, aged 16 and 15, appeared at bexley court yesterday, charged murder and they were both remanded . youth they were both remanded. youth custody . thousands tsa members custody. thousands tsa members are to walk out on the 17th of december in a dispute overjobs, pay december in a dispute overjobs, pay and conditions as services from six further train operators are expected to be affected on top of the two previously announced . the union says its announced. the union says its members feel they're being treated with contempt train companies and the government. while the department for transport has urged unions and rail operators to work together to find a resolution . and today to find a resolution. and today marks , 30 years since the first marks, 30 years since the first ever text message was sent . one

ever text message was sent. one in three people still send and receive sms messages every day . receive sms messages every day. the first text was sent by engineer neil papworth in december 1992. it read merry christmas. he told gb news he didn't know . christmas. he told gb news he didn't know. it christmas. he told gb news he didn't know . it would turn into didn't know. it would turn into something so big. instead of carrying around a clunky analogue phone and, a pager on their hip , analogue phone and, a pager on their hip, you would be able to combine those two devices and a secretary as something could send a message to a guy that's on the road and that's pretty much what we thought about then. but we had no idea it going to turn into the monster it is today, that's for sure . you're today, that's for sure. you're up to date on gb news would be monets as it now let's get back to emily . to emily. thank you, bethany . now welcome thank you, bethany. now welcome back to real britain with me

emily carver. so here's what's coming on the second hour of the show. our tv news people's poll revealed that british people are fed immigration with 54% fed up with immigration with 54% of respondents saying they think immigration is too high in the uk . and later, william and kate uk. and later, william and kate in, the states, harry and meghan's docu series and a racism row at royal commentator michael cole will join me to break down what has been a rather difficult week for the royal family. and later on this houn royal family. and later on this hour, the protests rocking both iran and china blow apart the idea that is superior to democracy is vladimir putin's axis of evil crumbling around him . that's what we're talking him. that's what we're talking about for the next hour . him. that's what we're talking about for the next hour. i'd love to know your thoughts on all of those questions. do you think immigration is too high? do you putin's axis of do you think putin's axis of evil crumbling that's iran evil is crumbling that's iran and his supposed allies? and china, his supposed allies? tweet me at gb news. you can email me on gbviews@gbnews.uk. of course , can watch us online, of course, can watch us online, too, on youtube . and don't too, on youtube. and don't forget facebook, you'll find lots of content on the . gb news.

lots of content on the. gb news. so it's time for gp news is latest people's poll the british people are fed up with it seems that's according to our poll numbers. 54% of respondents in all gb news people's think immigration to the uk is too high. that's they were presented with last year's net migration numbers which were over half a million astonishing really 13% agree with the current level . agree with the current level. whilst just 4% of respondents said the level of immigration is too low, 33% of the country think there is a for such a new party, there is need for a new party, there is need for a new party to lower immigration and that rises to 57% among people who voted leave 2016. joining me to speak about all these things and more is matt goodwin, who conducted off people's poll . conducted off people's poll. good afternoon, emily. joining us . i'm just good afternoon, emily. joining us. i'm just going to say to our viewers, if you don't follow

goodwin already on his social media and on his various channels, you should do he has some everyone's some analysis of everyone's pubuc some analysis of everyone's public opinion and all sorts really do give him a follow matt could break down what the poll tells about current views on tells us about current views on immigration. they hardening immigration. are they hardening 7 immigration. are they hardening ? well, i think it's interesting emily. on the one hand, after the brexit referendum, we saw a bit of a relaxation in public on migration. and that was partly of two things. one is people on the remain side became more support , both immigration and support, both immigration and people on the side often more relaxed about immigration because they felt they finally got control. and immigration going to be lowered. what we see today , i think is still quite today, i think is still quite elevated levels of concern over this issue , particularly now this issue, particularly now after the pandemic as. the numbers have gone back up, as you say to over half a million. and today my mind at least still a clear of the country feel that

migration is too high and only about one in 20 people feel that it's too low. so immigration is still much at the front and centre of british politics. it's quite extraordinary because we see time and again polling that shows that the public are concerned with levels of immigration. yet whoever is in government since the new labour years have failed to do anything about it, it's almost as if they think they can sweep it under the none of us will the carpet. none of us will nofice the carpet. none of us will notice of immigration notice the levels of immigration in that demographics are in the way that demographics are changing. think changing. do you think that there ever there is more space than ever for a anti—immigrant or more conservative image on immigration party to come to the fore ? yeah, so i think this is fore? yeah, so i think this is something we've been looking at as but if you ask people , do you as but if you ask people, do you think actually there should be a political that specifically can to lower immigration into the country a third of the country say they would be open to that kind of party than half of

brexit voters would be open to it. and i think ultimately, look , what this comes down to is the fact that still lots of people feel that when you look at the main parties there is this big consensus that the record levels that we now have have been achieved . a conservative achieved. a conservative government there is , a suspicion government there is, a suspicion or scepticism that those numbers would change on the labour given the legacy of new labour and i think that's why now you're beginning to see parties like reform take off a little bit in the opinion polls they're up to just 6. an average of 6% in just over 6. an average of 6% in the polls. you're beginning to see really big chunk. emily, of those 2019 conservatives now saying they're not really going to vote for anybody at the next election. so this apathy , sense election. so this apathy, sense of disillusionment over where we've come to in british after all of the promise in the eyes of many people from that referendum, i think is led us here, which is this strong for something different . yes, it something different. yes, it does seem to be that people feel

rather betrayed by both sides of the well, by both the government and the opposition, perhaps. thank you much, matt. that was matt goodwin, pollster and professor of politics bringing us on that latest gb us up to date on that latest gb news poll. so joining me to debate the findings is stephen woolf, who is director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity , and economic prosperity, and scarlett maguire, who is a former labour adviser now , former labour adviser now, stephen, to the results , all stephen, to the results, all people's poll surprise you in any way ? well, absolutely not, any way? well, absolutely not, because if you look in the uk since 2006, on average about 4% of polls that run organisations such as god have said that people are concerned about mass migration . but also gallup runs migration. but also gallup runs an international poll it's called the gallup world index on immigration . and if you look at immigration. and if you look at that that also shows that in almost every country in the world where immigration is increasing, then you'll find that people are becoming anti—immigrant and if you take,

for example, the three countries they use in their latest poll, peru columb bear nations that we don't think about as receiving immigrants are also about it too. so globally this is now become a must concern people living in their own countries who don't want to see large scale immigration. stephen, do you think paypal's general, british public are nuanced in their views towards immigration than these polls reflect? for example some people might have been very pro invites ukrainian refugees to this country but they don't want to see scale low skilled immigration . i think skilled immigration. i think that was always the case . i that was always the case. i mean, for example my family background is that one of an irish grandmother that came over when she was 14, a jewish black american and an english grandfather . so american and an english grandfather. so i'm a product of people have come to this country legally . they made me people have come to this country legally. they made me make let's make absolutely clear so people

believe that if you're a legal immigrant that's come to this country , they think that you can country, they think that you can share and enjoy the rights of everybody else. the biggest concern then for those that come over to this country illegally . over to this country illegally. but secondly, there is a deep concern by people and it's shown in polling consistently about mass migration related work, because we do it pushes down wages for the poorest in society and that's never changed. it's across every international research that comes out and the bank of england and so on this the world have done this so people are quite right to say that we're happy to people come in but not when it really impacts low migration and not when illegal scarlette we the quite astonishing figures of 1.1 million people coming in one year to this country. migration of over 500,000. do you think people are overreacting? do you think there's a lot of xenophobes in this country who just don't want to be liberal to those from outside . now, i mean.

those from outside. now, i mean. i think that the figures look quite scary some people but if you look at you if you actually look at the what's happening so over a quarter of them are students . so and the reason the students. so and the reason the numbers are so high is because of and there are students coming back to do the things and the thing about students is one is we're getting the brightest and the best too is they mostly go home afterwards and they go home actually loving this country which is a really good thing but possibly the most important thing is without foreign students. our university could not survive it. absolutely. just. but in there and challenge you just on that point because if students were leaving as you say they were, then surely that would be reflected in the migration figures. they the reason the migration figures are so high this year is because so students have come back after

covid. i mean, they do. they often leave afterwards or they get they get the good jobs right? not from british people but but you know , they're going but but you know, they're going to be qualified. but we have to remember that our universe cities could not financially survive without foreign they just don't get enough money and foreign students are much, much more . they pay far more than a more. they pay far more than a domestic student. so that's what the other is ukrainians , right? the other is ukrainians, right? well, we know that most refugees who come over actually are hoping to get home so. but we've we've invited the ukrainians oven we've invited the ukrainians over. we've seen it. we've ianed over. we've seen it. we've invited tens of thousands of ukrainians . and then then there ukrainians. and then then there are the afghans that frankly we owe. i mean, most of the afghans coming to this country , we've coming to this country, we've put in danger. and there are many more in afghanistan that we've let down. so actually,

once look at the figures seriously they're not then they're frightened of the people . well, stephen i think i must say on the university, i mean, there's been report after report and anecdotal evidence certainly of foreign students essentially getting the visas to join pretty poor quality courses . and then, poor quality courses. and then, of course, you are allowed to, in a lot of cases, to bring dependents and what not. and of course, that adds to the burdens on our public services. and we've been told time, time again that migration doesn't to our it doesn't cause extra pressure to our public services . no, no, no, our public services. no, no, no, don't worry at all. know more migrants work in the nhs. use the nhs. what are you about? i think that most people see through that now. there must an impact on our public services . impact on our public services. but let's just at and i will come and address charlotte in a moment but since 2010, net migration has introduced 3.28

million people to this country they are from the eu , the non eu they are from the eu, the non eu and their exclusive of students. so it doesn't really have an impact from that. what you see with students in the net migration figures is generally there's only excess of around 30,000 students that stay that remain . so when you're looking remain. so when you're looking at half a million people that have come here as net migration and this year the student numbers don't really have any impact on that at all the big numbers with 371,000 numbers they share with 371,000 people who received work visas and of course, those who and 78,000 that have come from the ukraine. and it's very clear that when you put 3.28 million people into the country . the people into the country. the space of 12 years. there are massive on housing. we know that because we go with asylum alone £6 million a day for hotels we know that there are impacts on the nhs and health and education. there are impacts too in other areas that we don't

really consider water infrastructure costs, road , infrastructure costs, road, rail, all of that because . we rail, all of that because. we have an increase in population and the i guess you could argue you could argue, stephen, that our government is government failure. scarlett quickly, before we sadly have to finish what do you make of keir starmer's new narrative or rhetoric on immigration, the idea that he wants to wean the economy off cheap labour and cheap labour? i mean, i actually completely agree with care that what we should be doing upskilling the british workforce andifs upskilling the british workforce and it's not good enough that four years and years and years we relied on workers coming from europe and asia and africa to be doctors in our health service , doctors in our health service, be nurses in our health service . we had polish coming over and doing the housing. i think it's really, really that we upskill british workforce so that so that they can get good jobs . i

that they can get good jobs. i do very much think that that should be the priority of any whichever government we have in two years time. anyway, thank you very much for that very pleasant debate. former pleasant debate. that was former labour of labour scarlett maguire and of course stephen wolf, director of the centre , migration the centre, migration and economic prosperity. now plenty more. let know what you think more. let me know what you think about do think about that. do you think immigration you have a immigration is too do you have a more view perhaps more nuanced view perhaps plenty more nuanced view perhaps plenty more afternoon on. more to come this afternoon on. real with me, emily real britain. with me, emily carver. break. william carver. after break. william and kate states , harry and kate in the states, harry and meghan's series racism meghan's docu series on racism at home. well, commentator michael cole will join me to break down what has been a very difficult royal difficult week for the royal family. but first, let's go to your stay tuned . your weather. stay tuned. looking ahead to this evening's weather and the uk is looking cold but cloudy for most with showers eastern areas. let's take a look at the details . it take a look at the details. it will be mostly dry across , will be mostly dry across, southwestern england with a mix of clear spells and scattered showers chiefly across devon and cornwall . and a keen wind will cornwall. and a keen wind will make it feel cold. a northeasterly breeze across the

southeast will make feel cold with coasts being particularly exposed. it will remain rather cloudy but dry and a bit cloudy across wales. but a few outbreaks possible, particularly in west. and there is an outside chance of an isolated shower rotate, but it will be mostly dry across . the rotate, but it will be mostly dry across. the midlands on saturday evening it will dry rather cloudy, but with clear spells, especially in the west . spells, especially in the west. there is a chance of a few showers , mainly in the east, and showers, mainly in the east, and it will feel everywhere and. easterly wind will feed showers west winds across north—east england and of these will be heavy and ten wintry in the highest peaks later rain and drizzle will clear west across north—west scotland throughout the evening . elsewhere it's the evening. elsewhere it's generally cloudy some clear spells and isolated showers affecting the far east coast. a few showers will continue to affect eastern coasts of northern ireland. most places will remain dry with clear spells developing feeling chilly overnight lows of four degrees

celsius . overnight will see celsius. overnight will see further showers in the east, but dner further showers in the east, but drier further west. and that's how the weather's shaping overnight into tomorrow morning .

welcome back to real britain me only cover on gb news on tv onune only cover on gb news on tv online and on your digital radio. now it's been a rather difficult for the royal family. it was hit another racism row after lady suzanne hussey resigned from the royal household for supposedly line of questioning towards the charity's black chief executive at a buckingham palace event . at a buckingham palace event. this alongside the release , a this alongside the release, a trailer for harry and meghan's long awaited netflix docu series . i'm not sure if you've been long awaiting it, but some people have, that's for sure. it's overshadowed the prince and princess of wales's trip to

boston for the earthshot prize a little bit anyway, to give take on this difficult week for the royals royal commentator michael cole . michael now i understand cole. michael now i understand that you've spent a little bit of time with lady susan hussey . of time with lady susan hussey. anyidea of time with lady susan hussey. any idea of how she's feeling after this? rather on ceremonious resignation , i ceremonious resignation, i should say? she's rather bruised at the moment. should say? she's rather bruised at the moment . yes, indeed. at the moment. yes, indeed. i followed her around world. i saw her interacting people from all sorts of background islands and races as she accompanied the queen, as her sort of queens head girl is what was from the job was very much more than just collecting the bouquets . she was collecting the bouquets. she was a very skilled and silky introducing people, smoothing the path for the queen and making the people came into the royal orbit feel rather special and memorable. i remember on a memorable occasion now we have a picture of the who actually

spoke to her at this summit, this reception. and let's just remember what this reception was about. it was given by the queen consort, camilla . this is a consort, camilla. this is a landscape . ukraine was there. it landscape. ukraine was there. it there to spotlight the scourge of male violence on women. a vile of an unfortunate early. all of that is not forgotten in the role that spread blown up here and what actually happened was susan was engaged conversation with a mrs. fulani who was formed a charity in east london to combat male violence domestic violence and violence by men against women . and by men against women. and according mrs. fulani she susan then cross questioned her about her racial origin and some her family and so on. now we don't have a transcript of , her have a transcript of, her recording. we have mrs. fulanis

recollect action, which she immediately put social media. and if you it like that, it's awful, it's appalling, it's unforgivable and immediate lay in a great act of loyalty to the crown lady susan hussey immediately for the hurt caused . and she resigned . but you and . and she resigned. but you and i know that tone , voice and i know that tone, voice and context very important in a situation like this they were all wearing their name badges and that's how mrs. fulani she was talking to lady susan . and i was talking to lady susan. and i can quite imagine that lady susan.in can quite imagine that lady susan. in fact, we know that she at her name badge and she has an exotic name. and i can quite understand lady susan say, oh, really ? you know, that's really? you know, that's interesting. you know, where do you it's just my you come from? it's just my i think a lot of our viewers and a lot of a lot of the general pubuc lot of a lot of the general public have been quite hurt or actually upset by this story , actually upset by this story, this lady. and of we don't know

all the details. we don't know what happened. we can only go off what we've read and what i know from press but she was there representing only african and caribbean. women she was there to represent their cause she was dressed in what might be considered traditional african garb then to be asked where she was from and where she was really from, why that might that be clumsy questioning for? sure, but it seems rather a normal thing for someone particularly of her age to say it does have a sort of whiff of stitch up about it well , you've actually opened it well, you've actually opened up a whole can of worms there. you may very well be right about that. we can't say yet what the real background of this is . but real background of this is. but as your previous male guest saying, he was talking about his racial origins and his how she his antics statements. it's a fairly normal thing. i heard another commentator say last night. distinguished commentators he's often asked

about where he comes from and he says proudly parties , don. but says proudly parties, don. but i've been in this country for this number of years, but that's natural curiosity. if you take that all out and if people can only talk in general and banalities it's going to be really a rather boring world. i mean the queen was absolutely a past master of this because when she met people and she met almost millions of people. she know she would probably use opening gambit and saying have you come for well nobody much object to and of course it leads onto the term great conversations but do we want to reduce conversations to the anodyne and this is something which is so in offensive that is not even worth . michael i'm not even worth. michael i'm terribly sorry , but i'm going to terribly sorry, but i'm going to have to interrupt you because i'm being told that we're squeezed by the news. but thank you much. hope we you very much. i do hope we don't get a situation where people afraid to even speak to each other fear of being each other for fear of being angry with you. more offensive.

thank you very much michael cole that royal commentator that was royal commentator michael us there to michael cole joining us there to discuss the latest race row in the royal family now with gb news on tv and dab radio after. the break, the protests rocking both iran and china blow apart idea that autocracy is superior democracy, that is the view of defence editor comic colin is vladimir putin's of evil crumbling him now it's time for a check on the news headlines but stay with us . emily you. but stay with us. emily you. good afternoon. it's 334. i'm bethany lc the gb newsroom parents are being urged to be vigilant to out for symptoms of strep a after six children under the age of ten have died from infection in. the uk. symptoms usually mild but the uk health agency is now in a rise. usually mild but the uk health agency is now in a rise . severe agency is now in a rise. severe cases experts that a lack of mixing during the covid 19

pandemic could be behind drop in immunity . a wealthy russian immunity. a wealthy russian businessman has been arrested on suspicion of money laundering, conspiracy to defraud the home office and conspiracy to commit perjury. the 58 year old was arrested at. his multi—million pound home in london , a pound home in london, a specialist police unit, investa gating oligarchs. two of the men were also arrested in. connection with the money laundering. all three have since been released on bail . in been released on bail. in a tweet responding to the arrest security minister, tom tugendhat said we will defend our democracy and hunt the kremlin's . po democracy and hunt the kremlin's. po person with murder after two teenage boys were fatally stabbed south—east london last week. year old hussein barr been charged with the murder after 216 year olds were stabbed to just a mile apart. two of the suspects, aged 16 and 15, appeared bexley magistrates court yesterday charged with murder and will in youth custody . an

murder and will in youth custody. an the first ever text message sent. one in three people still send and receive sms messages day. the first text was sent by engineer neil papworth in december 1992. it read merry christmas europe to date on tv onune christmas europe to date on tv online and ddb plus radio . this online and ddb plus radio. this is gb news. don't go anywhere. emily, we'll be back in just a moment .

welcome back to real britain on gb news. with me, emily carver , gb news. with me, emily carver, on your tv, online and digital radio. now the foreign secretary has warned that vladimir putin could use talks to restock army

before launching another attack on ukraine. in an interview with the telegraph, james cleverly said putin was not acting in good faith and that the topic of peace talks be approached very, very carefully. meanwhile, telegraph editor con coughlin wrote this week that western democracies should draw confidence from the collapse . confidence from the collapse. putin's axis of evil with iran and china . joining me is con and china. joining me is con coughun and china. joining me is con coughlin himself, who is defence editor and chief foreign affairs columnist at the telegraph . the columnist at the telegraph. the con this axis evil, iran, china. how is it crumbling , i am. well, how is it crumbling, i am. well, i mean, you just to look at the civil unrest that has broken out in inside both iran and china to see that these two very autocrat regimes are facing some of the worst unrest they've experienced in decades in china. it started over protests about the covid lockdown but now morphed into

demonstrations taking throughout the country with people actually calling for the president xi to stand down. and then over in iran of we've had two months of nationwide now which started with the with the death custody of a young who'd been arrested by religious police for not wearing her hijab . and again wearing her hijab. and again that has morphed into anti regime protests with people for the supreme leader ayatollah harmony to stand down and is seen the home the founder of the islamic revolution ayatollah khamenei banned during the protests. so these are pretty there's pretty serious protest by by any george . and how will by by any george. and how will this impact putin? to what extent is he reliant on having strong allies from iran and

china ? i mean, putin finds china? i mean, putin finds basically the bully mate of the international scene at the moment is shown that but but g20 i mean, the only people who support him at the united nafions support him at the united nations of countries like and syria that have you know autocrats regimes of their own. so you know he does need and practically he was relying on china support at the un. he was hoping that china would continue buying russian oil, which it's doing but already knocked down pnces. doing but already knocked down prices . and of course, iran is prices. and of course, iran is helping russia to evade u.n. so they've been important allies. and the fact they're now crumbling from within will be a great worry for putin. hmm. is the hope now that putin will, if not run out of steam, run out of money ? well, i think that's what money? well, i think that's what we all do . and certainly the

we all do. and certainly the economic sanctions are biting . i economic sanctions are biting. i think the eu initiative to limit the price of russian oil to $60 a barrel will also an impact. russia, russia's come to rely on oil prices of around $100 a barrel that's helped to pay for the war, to pay for military rearmament which is enable putin to invade ukraine. but if that dnes to invade ukraine. but if that dries up and we know that his stockpiles of military equipment are very low at the moment, which is why he's out from g8 iranian drones to attack ukraine. so if the money up the war dries up and that could well force future into the negotiating table . i mean, it's negotiating table. i mean, it's quite something if you can't get the chinese government , the the chinese government, the iranian government on your on side as a despot. i guess . but side as a despot. i guess. but james, cleverly , he's what i james, cleverly, he's what i view perhaps as a statement of the obvious that putin might

potentially use peace talks. peace talks as a chance to as an opportunity restock his army . opportunity restock his army. well, peace talks on the cards . well, peace talks on the cards. well, peace talks on the cards. well, i mean, there's been a lot of in the last couple weeks about the possible clarity of peace talks . we've had joe biden peace talks. we've had joe biden basically say to putin, if you pull out of ukraine, can talk. you've had in march, emmanuel macron say that you know, any any future talks should not demand putin's removal or so that there are some import to world leaders who are talking about this and. also people in europe . but germans are quite europe. but germans are quite keen to see some kind of negotiated settlement to ukraine. so where james cleverly is coming from and i admire him for this , you know, he's for this, you know, he's basically saying, you know , this basically saying, you know, this is not the time to appease russia. and let's not forget that putin has lied us time and

time again . that putin has lied us time and time again. it is not a trust worthy negotiating partner . time again. it is not a trust worthy negotiating partner. and yes, i think as says in the telegraph interview , that there telegraph interview, that there was be concerned that he would use any pause in the fighting to rearm and launch another offensive . and i want to ask , offensive. and i want to ask, what's the significance of the prime minister of india , his prime minister of india, his recent intervention? he's criticised russia's weaponization of food . this week weaponization of food. this week of course previously they abstained from the un resolution that condemned russia's invasion just a few months ago. how significant is that whether india finds itself in a rather difficult position because i mean india's main geopolitical rivals china for that reason they have had this relationship, this alliance with russia , which this alliance with russia, which is why they were reluctant to condemn russia at the start of the of the war. but the longer the of the war. but the longer the war is going on and the more

brutal the russian tactics have become you've seen the indians start to move away from russia and almost regret their relationship. so you know, the indian premier modi is hope is based saying to putin, you know we do not like this war. we've never liked this war. and the sooner and the better. and talked about how. but putin's axis of evil might be crumbling . he's losing support left, right and centre but also in his own country , the russians aren't own country, the russians aren't on board, are at all anymore . on board, are at all anymore. no, i think those are very opinion poll this this last week really where i think they found that one in four only only one in four russians now support this conflict. and of you know the russians have very heavy casualties. i the latest estimate is 100,000. i mean, that's more than the size of the

entire british army. these are astounding figures . i think the astounding figures. i think the russians lost a total at 10,000 dunng russians lost a total at 10,000 during the whole ten years. there in afghanistan. so if these figures are correct , this these figures are correct, this is the russian armed are being decimated. and of course, it's you know for every russian soldier who loses that there is a fact that their family and friends in russia left mourning and you know the news does get eventually that yeah that their sons and fathers whoever are not coming home and this will have an impact and despite the efforts of the kremlin state propaganda to portray this as a patriotic they're right. well drawing great downs know the message is slowly through to the russian people that this is this is an unmitigated disaster. yes. i mean, in this conflict, one must not lose sight of the amount of lives that are being

lost on both sides, both the ukrainian soldiers, of course, but also russians and their families . but also russians and their families. they must be absolutely devastated , reflected absolutely devastated, reflected in that poll that you just mentioned their are. mentioned. their feelings are. well, they're not backing putin any longer on this. thank very much for joining any longer on this. thank very much forjoining us. that was much for joining us. that was con coughlin , defence editor and con coughlin, defence editor and chief foreign affairs at the telegraph. of course , now a lot telegraph. of course, now a lot of you have been getting in touch throughout the show touch today throughout the show about on sajid javid about today's on sajid javid announcing . he'll step down at announcing. he'll step down at the next election. jackie has to announcing. he'll step down at the allt election. jackie has to announcing. he'll step down at the all mpection. jackie has to announcing. he'll step down at the all mp should ackie has to announcing. he'll step down at the all mp should down.1as to announcing. he'll step down at the all mp should down. they are say all mp should down. they are all useless . perhaps jackie is all useless. perhaps jackie is an anarchist. they all useless at best or at worst. we need a new party to vote for. i can't vote conservative next time and definitely not labour. we need a party that represents the people. hmm perhaps we should all group together and start our own. we can't do any worse than this, i imagine. anyway, on strikes says i work on the railways . we all want a railways. we all want a realistic pay rise, not the high levels. the militant unions are demanding, and some levels of change are necessary in working

. i change are necessary in working .i hope change are necessary in working . i hope that reach an . i hope that they reach an agreement now, but if the rmt the other bandwagon unions go through these next set of strikes , they are basically strikes, they are basically holding the country to ransom. it will another economic it will be another economic lockdown. workers in other members of the public not involved strikes will involved with the strikes will surely this because no surely support this because no one will. when i mean , that's one will. when i mean, that's never a balanced view from someone works on railways . someone works on the railways. it does seem that there may be some workers who are being a little bit bullied or pressured, pressurised into, along with this action . and they're this strike action. and they're not seeking such a mega pay rise as unions are themselves. but we'll see. mark i have no sympathy for the level of wage increase being demanded . greed increase being demanded. greed and divisive political agendas never be rewarded. i believe he means mark. they're not awarded . yes. it seems this i'm not sure i would say that the nurses are greedy. i don't think that's fair to say. but i think there's an unrealistic ask that when it comes to 19.2, i don't think many people in many jobs around

the country are getting nearly 20% increase at this time . tony 20% increase at this time. tony says with respect to all the strikes proposed this month, i would like to say, as i'm not happy with my state amount, what will happen to me as a pensioner if i decided to go on strike and stop council tax stop paying my council tax income bills, income tax and gas bills, telephone , tv licence, rent or telephone, tv licence, rent or mortgage i guess i would be rapidly placed in jail. well, if you remember, there was that that was telling people to just not energy bills, just not pay their energy bills, just don't pay them, don't pay them , don't pay them, don't pay them, see think that's see what happens. i think that's probably a very helpful probably not a very helpful thing to tell people because that, you they may be that, as you say, they may be rapidly jail not rapidly placed in jail for not paying rapidly placed in jail for not paying get your paying. but i, i get your sentiment . now, we're going to sentiment. now, we're going to be on our next, which be moving on to our next, which is an interesting one and one close to my heart, having continued all long ago , continued not all too long ago, the government reportedly the government has reportedly watered down a bill designed to prevent universities cancelling speakers to be speakers considered to be controversial. the originally would have allowed academics students to sue institutions infringing on their free speech

rights. but amendments have been tabled that will only allow legal as a last resort after all the other options. now, joining me is arif ahmed, who is a philosophy professor at cambridge university . arif are cambridge university. arif are you there? hello. thank you for joining us this afternoon on. now just to start things off, why should the general public even care about free speech in universities ? well think there universities? well think there are a number of reasons. one of them is that universities a kind of filter through which pretty the entire managerial class of the entire managerial class of the country, people who go on to work museums work in publishing, in museums as as in universities and government pass through and so and they also pass through a very formative time their lives. so the attitudes that people get when they're in institutions eventually filters out through the whole country and makes a massive difference to everyone's lives. in lives. because if we live in a country, government doesn't country, the government doesn't see free as a fundamental see free speech as a fundamental right which people died. right for which people died. and perhaps most rights in

perhaps the most rights in a liberal democracy , then we're liberal democracy, then we're going to go down very dark path. now i think this kind of legislation that's intended to protect freedom of speech is very important . it comes to very important. it comes to academic freedom. so don't essentially get the for producing papers, research, etc. that doesn't align with the general liberal consensus or , general liberal consensus or, whatever. but i think first you didn't and i remember time at university not too long ago , it university not too long ago, it was more a self—censorship that impact students the most fear of giving an alternative view that might not that their professor may not have agreed with or that their peers may have agreed with. how do we combat cultural cultural problem that ? people cultural problem that? people are afraid to give a different point of view . no, i agree. point of view. no, i agree. there is a cultural problem really can be combatted to some extent . the legislation that extent. the legislation that requires more than . one of the requires more than. one of the things that can be done at universal cities, which i've proposed, that

universal cities, which i've pro caned, that universal cities, which i've pro can start that universal cities, which i've pro can start students that universal cities, which i've pro can start students when at universal cities, which i've pro can start students when they we can start students when they come we give come to universities. we give them some of or training them some sort of or training as part of their joining a new institution where they're taught this is not like school to some extent. it's not like the workplace whole workplace either. the whole point university is that point of a university is that you new, you can you can explore new, you can think about all kinds of, crazy things and occupy all kinds of different spaces and you not committed anything. you're not going to be punished for it and you're encouraged to disagree . you're encouraged to disagree. all kinds of things, including , all kinds of things, including, crucially, the prevailing orthodoxy . so i think by showing orthodoxy. so i think by showing that only by telling them that, but by showing by inviting speakers a speakers who have a controversial by showing themselves be free to discuss themselves to be free to discuss controversial ideas. i think professors do a and professors can do a lot. and universities lot to universities can do a lot to inculcate these attitudes into students , though i agree that by students, though i agree that by itself, the legislation would be enough. mean it's very enough. yes mean it's very difficult. i think you're more likely to see trigger warnings on curriculum universities on curriculum in universities than see professor than you are to see professor talking up the importance of free speech. it did seem that in some seminars people would be

shocked someone even saying shocked by someone even saying perhaps intended to vote perhaps they intended to vote brexit . back in my time that was brexit. back in my time that was the debate that was raging that point anyway. now, in terms of this particular legislation , do this particular legislation, do you think that it has been watered down? you worry that it will be ? well, the first thing will be? well, the first thing i'd say is you shouldn't say trigger warning, because that that phrase is itself triggering apparently says, yes, you apparently seemed says, yes, you should say content. no it's not not trigger warning content. i'm very that that's right. so very sorry that that's right. so it makes an issue with regards to the legislation . yes, i do to the legislation. yes, i do think it is a watering down as you said in your report, what's happenedis you said in your report, what's happened is that the statutory talks mechanism for talks and the mechanism for going to the courts to complain about behaviour is being delayed until after gone through various other processes and problem is this someone said who themselves has been at the sharp end of this is that can give university managers an excuse just to report on complaints process is to kick things into the long grass so that gets settled

there's no of injunction that can be used to things in the interim . and of course it's the interim. and of course it's the cause that can really actually compel universities to do and to enforce serious costs. so some of the deterrent effect , this of the deterrent effect, this bill will really be lost if it's been weakened in this way. do you think as someone experience, as a professor at, such a well—known and reputable establishment as the university of cambridge , do you think that of cambridge, do you think that some professors use their job perhaps as a way to become an on the political stage ? it does the political stage? it does appear that many professors are using their platform not only to broaden young minds , but also broaden young minds, but also perhaps to use to further their own ideology . is that fair? is own ideology. is that fair? is that even something we should be worried about? well, i think it's important to be careful here, because on the one hand, the part the point of universities being free is professors as well as students ought able defend pretty ought to able to defend pretty much they a

much any view they in a way that's legal. so i'd be very cautious about saying that professors shouldn't be able express this or that political view, including that detest view, including that i detest and totally against, as well as ones that in favour of. ones that i'm in favour of. having that, the that does having said that, the that does concern me is not so much individual professors as institutes is themselves taking sides on political issues. so when an institution instance takes side on one political issue, say it's do with race or perhaps to do with trans issues or even russia, ukraine, or perhaps even russia, ukraine, these are all political questions. and you might not think for universal think that is for universal cities to a stance on. cities to take a stance on. these particular issues because they as corporate bodies should be neutral neutral in which professors then take different positions and that how set out . positions and that how set out. for instance in the university of chicago there's famous work called the carver report , which called the carver report, which sets exactly that that sets out exactly that that universities are there to irritate and disturb and offend and and make people think and shock and make people think about all kinds new ideas. about all kinds of new ideas. there not second rate there are not second rate political groups. yes, there are not second rate pwould. groups. yes, there are not second rate pwould like groups. yes, there are not second rate pwould like to groups. yes, there are not second rate pwould like to seeiroups. yes, there are not second rate pwould like to see perhapszs, i would like to see perhaps universities being given freedom to you make very clear that they

are places of free speech where any view is allowed, any legal is allowed, and that students should feel comfortable in expressing that and professors well, which is certainly absolute crucial. thank you very much for joining absolute crucial. thank you very much forjoining me on the much for joining me on the program. that was arif ahmed, professor of philosophy at the university of cambridge. now, that's for me . you've been that's it for me. you've been watching britain. course watching real britain. of course , carver. thank you , me. emily carver. thank you very much for company this very much for your company this afternoon. it's been a lot of fun for me. i it has been fun for me. i hope it has been for at home. thank for for you at home. thank you for sending in of your messages. sending in all of your messages. this on this of course, is on every saturday p.m. now, i'll saturday at 2 pm. for now, i'll have to leave you with the weather . looking have to leave you with the weather. looking ahead to this evening's weather , the uk is evening's weather, the uk is looking cold but cloudy for most with showers affecting eastern areas. let's take a look at the details. it will mostly dry across southwestern england with across southwestern england with a mix of clear spells and scattered showers, chiefly across and cornwall and a keen wind will make it feel rather

cold. a northeasterly breeze across the will make it feel cold with coasts being particularly it will remain rather but dry . it'll be cloudy rather but dry. it'll be cloudy across wales but few outbreaks are possible. particular early in the west and there is an outside chance of an isolated shower routine. but it will be mostly dry across the midlands on saturday evening. it will be dry, rather cloudy , but with dry, rather cloudy, but with clear spells, especially in the west there is a chance of a few showers, mainly in the and it will feel cold everywhere . an will feel cold everywhere. an easterly wind will feed westwards across east england and some of these will be and turn wintry in the highest peaks later. rain drizzle will slowly clear west across northwest scotland throughout the evening . elsewhere it's generally cloudy , some clear spells and cloudy, some clear spells and isolated showers affecting the far east coast. isolated showers affecting the far east coast . a few showers far east coast. a few showers will continue to affect eastern coasts of northern. most places, though , will remain dry, with though, will remain dry, with clear spells developing feeling chilly overnight with lows four

degrees celsius overnight. we'll see further showers in the east, but drier further west. and that's how the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning .

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