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i love the intro so much. we showed it twice. good and welcome to gb news. you are watching sense crusade with me. the reverend calvin robinson. on your tv wireless and online , the your tv wireless and online, the show is all about championing common. and today we will be discussing the census results showing. about less than half of england wales are christian. england and wales are christian. we'll also take a look back at what's been a very difficult
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week for the royal family. and i'll asking, who you blame i'll be asking, who do you blame for the winter of discontent? first, it's as check on those news bethany . news headlines. but bethany. hello good afternoon. it's 2:01. i'm bethany lc in the gb newsroom the health secretary is being urged to . stop being urged to. stop grandstanding and make a deal with unions. the head of nhs cranks this month. the call former health secretary steven comes as military personnel prepare to cover striking public sector workers. around 2000 troops civil servants other government volunteers are being trained to help limit disruption dunng trained to help limit disruption during the festive period. mr. donald says demands for a 19% pay donald says demands for a 19% pay rise may not be , but the pay rise may not be, but the current offer isn't good enough. most people remembering this, the applause that we all gave to the applause that we all gave to the nhs , the pandemic would the nhs, the pandemic would think that 3% isn't doesn't
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properly respond in particular for low paid nhs workers doesn't properly respond to the challenges of the moment. and i would hope that steve barclay would hope that steve barclay would come out of the grandstands and engage with the people who he relies on. he can't deliver health care. sat in the secretary of state's office , the head of . the police office, the head of. the police watchdog has been forced to over an historical allegation and it's now emerged michael , an historical allegation and it's now emerged michael, he's been the director general of the independent office for police conduct since 2018 is facing a investigation . the home investigation. the home secretary suella braverman says she told him to quit or , face she told him to quit or, face immediate suspension after learning about the probe when announced his resignation on friday, he said it was for personal and domestic reasons. the conflict . ukraine is slowing the conflict. ukraine is slowing down in us intelligence officials say they expect that to continue over the winter months. washington says kiev's economy is now suffering . russia economy is now suffering. russia launched attacks targeting , its
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launched attacks targeting, its power grid and other critical infrastructure. the director of national intelligence avril haines believes there will a successful ukrainian counter offensive in the new year . we offensive in the new year. we expected both military are going to be in a situation where they're going to be looking to try to refit, to resupply in a sense reconstitute. so that they're kind of prepared for counteroffensive. but we actually have a fair amount of scepticism as to whether or not the russians will be, in fact, prepared to do that. and i think, yeah i think more optimistically for ukrainians. matt hancock's account of how he managed care homes during covid pandemic has been described as a deluded version of events . in deluded version of events. in his new book, the former health secretary insists the virus was mainly brought into facilities by infected staff . but the chair by infected staff. but the chair of the national care association says that bears no resemblance to the facts. she says in the early stages of the outbreak,
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covid were discharged from hospitals and put into care homes , testing england will face homes, testing england will face senegal tonight in their first match in the knockout stage of the world cup. the africa cup of nafions the world cup. the africa cup of nations holders were runners up in group b, but the three lions remain unbeaten and are favourites to get through to the next round. former england sven—goran eriksson us gareth southgate has a strong squad to choose from upfront. he has a lot options. harry kane will play, i suppose, if he's a fit and he should play, of course. but then who's playing around him? it can be foden. it can be star rashford saka grealish , but star rashford saka grealish, but you cannot play all them. so yeah, i hope you have played foden arrest tonight. i hope so . england fans in qatar are optimistic if he and hopeful i'm very high school prediction three one england. how are you feeling about tonight?
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incredibly nervous. we know it's going to be a tough game and it's easy at this stage. you know, the group are out the way. anything happen. are anything can happen. senegal are a team . it's going to be a great team. it's going to be a tough one. prediction three one. england is way too optimistic. i'm going to go to one. maybe i'll fracture time, but then i'll fracture time, but then i'll be in tears. let's talk. but hopefully penalties . and but hopefully penalties. and with 150 days until king charles the feds coronation that's an edward's crown has been removed from the tower london to be adjusted for him king charles's ceremony is expected be smaller and shorter than . the late and shorter than. the late queen's with around 2000 guests instead of 8000. but the court elements of the traditional service will remain. royal commentator cole told gb news the crown was first warned by king charles, second. now this crown is quite interesting. it's its used only once in every reign. it weighs its used only once in every reign. it weigh s £5 and before reign. it weighs £5 and before
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her coronation during the second 1953. and i do remember the queen walked around the palace and obviously in our day getting used to it because is quite a technique to keep it steady and straight . you're up to date tv straight. you're up to date tv news. we'll bring you more news . it happens. now it's back to calvin . calvin. hello and welcome. this is common sense crusade with me, the reverend robinson. here's what's coming this afternoon . what's coming this afternoon. the census has revealed that for the time, fewer than half the people in england and wales describe as christian. so i'll be asking, is england still a christian country? and harry and meghan's netflix docu series has a trailer timed with a racism
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row at buckingham palace. former royal butler grant will join me to break down what's. been a very difficult week for the royal family and that is former and health secretary sajid javid becomes the latest tory mp to announced he will stand down at the next general election. i'll asking all the tories jumping a sinking ship and of course you can join in any of our discussions by emailing gbviews@gbnews.uk uk or by tweeting at gb news. transforming . transforming. i was saddened to. see the recent census data showing only demographics to change or to decline are the and christians. and from what i've seen liberal commentators have been claiming it's a fine thing to see high levels immigration because it's immigrants propping up the church. well i don't think that's true because we've had
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record of immigration in recent years . 1.1 million years reaching. 1.1 million immigrants arriving in the uk last year. the number of last year. but the number of christians is still plummeting, last year. but the number of christiaiusis still plummeting, last year. but the number of christiaius instill plummeting, last year. but the number of christiaius in a ll plummeting, last year. but the number of christiaius in a minority|eting, last year. but the number of christiaius in a minority forng, last year. but the number of christiaius in a minority for the putting us in a minority for the first time in modern history. the uk has always been a christian country. there are those who would argue joseph of arimathea arrived in england as the first missionary. the very man who buried jesus is also being claimed that st paul arrived in england during his journeys west . king lucius, journeys west. king lucius, a second century king of the britons is credited with requesting christian teachers be sent to this land from the bishop of rome. his letters to the pope speak of the christian conversion of britain. we know christians the uk from gaul now france and planted churches dunng france and planted churches during the second century. and of course it's an arrived in hertfordshire in the third and fourth century. and is recorded as one of the first britain christian martyrs . all of this christian martyrs. all of this is before augustine of canterbury arrived in the year of our lord. five, nine, seven
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as a monk sent by gregory the great to evangelise king, ethelbert . the church of england ethelbert. the church of england has many roots celtic european potentially judaism and roman. there were many who would denigrate history claiming that we are a pagan nation. but the truth is, the british have always been christian. these lands are christian , our society lands are christian, our society and, our laws were built upon christian faith . it is christian faith. it is astonishing. then see christianity fall into a minority religion in the uk with only 46.2% of people identifying themselves . christians only 46.2% of people identifying themselves. christians in only 46.2% of people identifying themselves . christians in the themselves. christians in the 2021 census. a 30% point drop in a decade . what has been going a decade. what has been going wrong ? if we look at places wrong? if we look at places where the church is growing, africa , asia, latin america , africa, asia, latin america, eastern europe and the muslim world, we see an orthodox christian rooted in traditional doctrine . and when we look at doctrine. and when we look at places where the church is in decline, uk canada and america , decline, uk canada and america, we see the churches modernising
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more liberal, progressive and less orthodox . will the western less orthodox. will the western church learn from this? probably not. chances are they're going to double down chasing societal norms in attempt to become more relevant to the secular society around us. therefore, pushing the faith further away, pushing the faith further away, pushing the faithful further away. it seems to the problem is obvious. the further church steps away from god's law towards the abstract values of day, the faster the decline we're called to be in the world but not of the world. i took a lot of stick for christian teachings on this show, on the issues of marriage, abortion and sexuality. these traditional messages caught people off guard. and i think they were shocked to hear them because the church has silent for too long. i believe it's time for the bishops to become defenders , the faith once again. defenders, the faith once again. it's a message of the gospel. we are all sinners. sin is bad . we are all sinners. sin is bad. we must repent and find faith in jesus be again in the holy jesus. be born again in the holy spirit , and jesus. be born again in the holy spirit, and we may live an eternal life . him, he eternal life. him, because he
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died resurrected for all died and resurrected for all salvation . salvation. the 21 census has revealed that for the first time ever, fewer half of brits identify as christian. the number of people who said they were christian was just 46.2. that's a decline of 30% from the 2011 census. meanwhile, the biggest rise was in the number of people who have no religion, which rose to 37.2% of the population, up from a quarter. to break down these figures is independent statistician and, the former head of health analysis at the and jamie jenkins thank you for joining us this sunday. jamie could you start off, please, if you don't mind. us more you don't mind. tell us more about census figures. tell about the census figures. tell us the decline in us about the decline in christianity uk how the christianity, the uk and how the number people i identifying number of people i identifying as has changed over as christian has changed over the decades. yeah good the past few decades. yeah good afternoon, calvin. so what is.
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is people have got kind of an opfion is people have got kind of an option to answer the question on the census relating to religion . so it's a voluntary question, but around 94% of people who respond to the census actually decided to respond to this question. and kind of what you've you've talked about days that we've seen this decline now from 59% kind of identifying this christians back in 2011 as fall into 46. and it's not a case of then that we've seen a huge rise . the number of other huge rise. the number of other religions across the country. it seems to more this kind of people identifying themselves with with no religion . and with with no religion. and remember obviously we talking ten year gap now between the figures . so ten year gap now between the figures. so what we ten year gap now between the figures . so what we also ten year gap now between the figures. so what we also might be seeing here calvin in relation to what the numbers are showing is that maybe older people are more to identify people who are more to identify as obviously passed as christian obviously passed away since the last census and then the younger cohort are coming through and popping into the numbers now are probably more likely to be identified themselves as no religions , themselves as no religions, which i don't think is a huge, dramatic shift people
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dramatic shift in people deciding go from being, say, deciding to go from being, say, perhaps christian to , no perhaps christian to, no religion. that's going be religion. that's going to be that demographic within that demographic effect within the about the numbers as well. what about raises a few questions for me, jamie. first of all, is this a trend? going to see a trend? are going to see a further in christianity, further decline in christianity, a atheism a further increase in atheism under religions ? well, i under other religions? well, i think looking at if you've got more older people are more likely to identify as christian, then you'll see the same effect going forward as well, then you'll see the same effect going forward as well , that kind going forward as well, that kind of thing. i think the important as well is that we are seeing wealth in numbers relatively small. we are obviously still seeing some increases in some of the kind of smaller religions as well. so i think muslims have gone up from 2.7 million a decade ago to 3.9 million. so that's gone from 4.9% to six and a half percent. and if you look at where the state is kind taking us in terms of the population over the next ten, 20, 30 years, we're probably going to see kind of natural decline terms of the uk population because we're having fewer births and more . but fewer births and more. but they'll took that with more
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they'll be took that with more immigration. so it depends obviously where the immigration comes from, there's an assumption that you about 200,000 you can have net. couple of weeks ago. yeah and as we say in now we had a record numbers of a million in the most of half a million in the most recent numbers. what to recent numbers. but what to drive change in the drive population change in the uk over the next ten, 20, 30 years will be immigration. i would imagine the 59% down to 46% when you do the 2031 census is probably going to head south and even less again . okay. so and even less again. okay. so that's an interesting point . that's an interesting point. people are saying that immigration has been propping up the for a while. we are the church for a while. we are seeing an increase in immigration, we're immigration, but we're also seeing that decrease in christianity. a christianity. can we see a correlation anywhere in the data on in immigration ? is on the rise in immigration? is that the decline in that steadying the decline in christianity ? well, if you look christianity? well, if you look at work of the immigration coming from over more recent years as well is coming from non eu countries . we do see a lot of eu countries. we do see a lot of people coming from india and pakistan and mostly of different kind of faiths , religions coming kind of faiths, religions coming from those kind of countries . so
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from those kind of countries. so i think the numbers aren't really pouring out what you're saying that kind of immigration is popping up christianity is popping up of christianity across country . we've seen is popping up of christianity acro clear, country . we've seen is popping up of christianity acro clear, cleartry . we've seen is popping up of christianity acro clear, clear decline ve seen is popping up of christianity acro clear, clear decline .a seen is popping up of christianity acro clear, clear decline . think this clear, clear decline. think what the church also needs do really is be looking out terms of if we've got this huge of younger people who are not identify themselves with any religion , what can they do to religion, what can they do to kind reach out and, of kind of reach out and, kind of connect with those people, to replace that kind of replace the people that kind of they lose at the top end of they will lose at the top end of society at the older ages? absolutely okay. so talk absolutely okay. so let's talk about the older group, because people bring this up as people often bring this up as well and say we have an well and say that we have an ageing population on the one hand is full of hand and the church is full of elderly people on the other. and therefore, if the population is ageing we have more more ageing and we have more and more elderly than we've ever had, elderly now than we've ever had, surely church numbers should surely the church numbers should be well, yeah, but be rising to. well, yeah, but what to remember is what you've got to remember is that obviously are getting that we've obviously are getting more people on, but we are more older people on, but we are seeing a lot more deaths and they are going to come. so if you think of the population the moment we're just hitting the point now where we've got a
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large of people who were large code of people who were born world war, born after the second world war, kind known as the post war kind of known as the post war baby they kind of baby boomers, and they kind of hitting point their hitting that point where their life expectancy. probably life expectancy. so we probably will number of will see a large number of deaths and. that's of the deaths and. that's kind of the conundrum uk's got. putting conundrum the uk's got. putting aside the religion, the big kind of ticking bomb for uk of ticking time bomb for the uk is lack births that we've is the lack of births that we've among population in because among the population in because of cost to raise an of the cost to raise an interesting fact, i was looking this week is that when you look at people over the age of 30, women, half women are women, half of women are childless. now whereas you go childless. now whereas if you go back 1950s, it was just back to the 1950s, it was just one so we going to see one in four. so we going to see a large number of deaths, not enough births coming to. in those are going domestic those who are going to domestic uk people. and that's uk kind of people. and that's going to put pressure on the church forward, would church going forward, would imagine, you're imagine, because you're not getting the people coming getting the same people coming through replace the older through to replace the older people dying. mean people who are dying. i mean that's to me that's that's fascinating to me that's that's fascinating to me that results feminism that the results of feminism the other women are other half of women are childless surely christians need this as a message from each other. need having other. christians need be having more raising more more children are raising more families. question families. but my question to you, about
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you, jamie, is this is about identity . it not. the largest identity. it not. the largest rise was in the number of people who identify having no who identify as having no religion. you expect has religion. what do you expect has changed there ? well, i would changed there? well, i would imagine it's just going to grow. as we were talking about the demographic effective, if and more people are born and they have no connection to kind of the you take the the church. when you take the next of figures. you know next set of figures. you know you ten years on again you take in ten years on again in doubt if you scored 13% in in no doubt if you scored 13% in a decade. calvin if you took in another 13, perhaps in the next decade, it'd be about one in three. so you would have gone from probably over 60% 20 years ago to 59% ten years ago, then down 46 and then down to 33. so, you know, that is probably a bit of a crisis in the church in terms of having people themselves as christian. and i think these are figures, a bit of a wake up call for the of the church to look at what can they do. i know you're usually do. and i know you're usually looking that are looking the stats that are released analysing them but released and analysing them but i'd to you to make a i'd like to get you to make a prediction that's possible. how long christian long do you think the christian church the uk? well,
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church has in the uk? well, i you're far more qualified probably to that one than mike and i myself covered. i think, you know, the church will around for a long, long time. but i think that the days, you know with where a lot of people would be going to the church on a sunday and the resonate and more with church can the with the church can see by the figures that connection no longer i think you longer there and i think you know never going return know it's never going to return i you never going i would imagine you never going to numbers back to see the numbers going back up. but i suppose what the church would be looking at is trying address the numbers trying to address the numbers decline depressing decline and what a depressing message. you very much message. but thank you very much . analysis that independent . analysis that was independent statistic and former head of health analysis at the nsa, jamie jenkins , thank you very jamie jenkins, thank you very much for that. plenty more to come afternoon the come this afternoon after the break. harry and meghan's netflix docu series has a trailer where timed perfectly with a race at buckingham palace. coincidence former royal butler grant harrold will join me to break down what has been a very difficult week for the royal family. but first, let's have a look at the latest weather looking to this
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evening's weather and the uk looking cold and cloudy for many with showers feeding in from the east . let's take with showers feeding in from the east. let's take a with showers feeding in from the east . let's take a look at the east. let's take a look at the details. in the southwest it'll be mostly dry but it could be a few showers and should also a few showers and should also a few breaks in the cloud in the southeast will be largely cloudy. the cloud will stop temperatures from dropping to low and it will be cold with . low and it will be cold with. some rain to much of wales have a dry evening with the best of any clear skies in the south—west with showers further north, it will be a cloudy end to the day across the midlands . to the day across the midlands. some showers are likely, but they will intermittent and mostly light . it'll be a mostly light. it'll be a different story in the northeast , the showers will be frequent and heavy at times the showers could fall as sleet or snow over higher ground . western parts of higher ground. western parts of scotland will stay mostly dry with clear skies meaning it will be cold so the east we can
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expect more cloud and wintry showers this evening and overnight . meanwhile, across overnight. meanwhile, across northern, we can expect some showers towards northern and western parts , some clear spells western parts, some clear spells in between , but perhaps not as in between, but perhaps not as chilly as last showers will continue to feed in the northeast overnight with chillier and clearer weather in the west . and that's how the the west. and that's how the weather shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning . we are gb into tomorrow morning. we are gb news the people's channel. i'm right across the united kingdom. you can find us on sky channel 512. virgin media channel 2604 freesat channel 216 freeview channel 236 and youview channel 236. you can also take us with you on dab plus radio with the gb news app and at the website gbnews.uk. we're absolutely everywhere. come join us on gb news. the people channel britain's news.
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channel will come back to the common sense crusade on gb news on tv online and on your wireless . online and on your wireless. it's been a difficult week for the royal family as it was hit by another racism. row after lady susan resigned from the royal for a supposedly line of questioning towards a charity's black chief executive. at a palace event . alongside the palace event. alongside the release of a trailer for harry and meghan's long awaited , long and meghan's long awaited, long awaited by netflix docu docu series overshadowed the prince and princess of wales trip to for the earthshot prize and to give us his take this difficult week for the royals is royal former butler grant harold grant thank you so much for joining
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former butler grant harold grant thank you so much forjoining us in the studio this sunday. we've got clear evidence now that the royal is institutional racist . royal is institutional racist. it's gone quite badly wrong. this week i say that i think this week i can say that i think i was sarcasm by the way . it's i was sarcasm by the way. it's been it's been really difficult . the problem i've got is i know lady i her when i was in the lady and i her when i was in the household and, you see i never witnessed this. i'm not as i said recently , not saying that i said recently, not saying that i believe that i think we agree that there's the racism i happen to know what's the racial backgrounds . but the thing with backgrounds. but the thing with this lady in particular, you know, she was the queen for know, she was with the queen for i was over 60 years. i think it was over 60 years. and from times i was around, and from the times i was around, i witnessed like it. i never witnessed death like it. so equally shocking for me so it's equally shocking for me to hear this. and kind of want to hear this. and kind of want to understand, like everybody, why this has happened and what the reasons are, you know, where are originally in are you from originally in scotland, believe it or not. and that's really question that's a really good question for originally from for me from. originally from well, scotland. but if you go further originally from norway going way back, are you offended right now? not at all. right now? no, not at all. that's simple question. getting to right? absolutely
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to know you, right? absolutely is introduction . it is part of an introduction. it i don't think i do think that question is racist. i do think that question is offensive or i think it's a genuine interest. another person. yeah, i and i think i think tricky part think i think the tricky part is, as i said to somebody recently that when the in waiting of the queen when would meet people they would be given some background information not full details but briefly but i think what's also difficult is , think what's also difficult is, is that when you i mean, obviously there's been the transcript of what the ladies obviously took place. obviously said took place. that's itself . it how that's an issue itself. it how is trust? well how is it is there trust? well how is it because it was because hopefully it was a recording that recording device because that would obviously would be quite obviously quite serious. the other serious. but i think the other thing all right, we'd be but thing was all right, we'd be but the other thing i don't understand is with the greater respect, other respect, there's many other people different people from different backgrounds and ethnic backgrounds and ethnic backgrounds far as backgrounds there. and as far as the way in the six years, the way in the last six years, this hasn't before. so why it this hasn't before. so why is it suddenly happened now? and also think, wrong , think, forgive me if i'm wrong, i leading question did i think the leading question did have think had national have i think she had national address obviously she's address because obviously she's proud her heritage. and proud of her heritage. and i also lady susan was trying
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also maybe lady susan was trying to background was to get the background was a heritage but it's whatever heritage but it's for whatever reason it's all going really badly wrong you're being very charitable this morning hadley was using an african . her name was using an african. her name is morning hadley. she's from hackney in, london, and she was wearing national of africa. she's she's british her parents are caribbean so she wasn't wearing her own national dress. this been called cultural, this had been called cultural, if believe i don't if you believe in that. i don't believe in that. i think can dress however they see fit. yes. but someone is dressed but if someone is dressed in a clearly a statement outfits, people to ask people are going to ask questions. think it's quite questions. i think it's quite right do. i right that people do. and i think if you dressed in a statement, you want people to ask questions, which is why as a i'll a kilt. right? right. i'll wear a kilt. right? right. and what happens, and that's exactly what happens, some come up say, some people come up to me say, especially in london. are you scottish? say, why? scottish? and i'll say, why? because get away and because you get cold away and the accent you know, the the accent you know, with the accent, think jokingly say accent, i think i jokingly say to sometimes, i give to people sometimes, i give talks things i'll to talks and things i'll say to people you believe a match people you won't believe a match from which course from scotland which of course everyone laughs. i everyone can have laughs. so i think is actually think this is actually a you this all part this is all part of a conversation. so it as when this
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happens it's , it's sad because happens it's, it's sad because what i do to happen in the what i do want to happen in the future policy don't want future the policy you don't want it suddenly change and the it to suddenly change and the people worried how the people are worried about how the introductions i want introductions and things i want to i want to get to the to get i want to get to the response or reaction, but i will do it shortly. but firstly the lady in waiting because you know more than i do more about protocol than i do when, asking these when, they're asking these questions when they're engaging with can get with guests this so they can get a more of a background. so a bit more of a background. so can guests to can perhaps introduce guests to member royal household. member of the royal household. undoubtedly yes. so the leading weight was unpaid. weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid traditionally, friends, weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid 'queen,1ally, friends, weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid “queen, asly, friends, weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid “queen, as it friends, weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid “queen, as it was1ds, weight and the role was unpaid. unpaid “queen, as it was then, the late queen, as it was then, often different with often it's a bit different with the queen consort. it was the new queen consort. it was again queen because the again with the queen because the time changed, we were time it was changed, we were leading role leading weighton and the role was. company, the was. yes, the company, the queen, the great reception would nish before the queen maybe came in. they would get some information some the information about some of the guests then would walk guests and then they would walk around nearby and around with the queen nearby and it meant that didn't it just meant that it didn't always mean they were going always mean that they were going to interested if to be interested the queen if the queen was introduced the lady in waiting already some lady in waiting already had some background information and that was the kind the role to was the kind of the role to there to support queen. so
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there to support the queen. so they're i've had the they're not coming. i've had the same number a same in number ten where a random will come up to be random spat will come up to be or advisable, may ask me some questions then introduce me questions and then introduce me to a politician pm. to a politician or the pm. they'd have say darkly, oh, they'd have to say darkly, oh, oh, get meghan oh, we'll get to harry meghan shortly. want to ask you shortly. i just want to ask you about reaction. this about the reaction. so this resignation hussey, resignation of lady hussey, would this have been her doing or you think she would have or do you think she would have been as? a an been pushed out as? a as an overreaction by the. i believe this hard decision. this would be a hard decision. i think she'll so mortified as think she'll be so mortified as if she's one of the kindest ladies can be. i mean, ladies you can be. i mean, i've known her for a long time. i wrote her i wrote to the queen. mother was a teenager and mother was i was a teenager and she wrote back to she was the lady wrote back to me. i've got a bit history me. so i've got a bit of history there. she's very calm lady. there. she's a very calm lady. be has happened. there. she's a very calm lady. be i has happened. there. she's a very calm lady. be i think has happened. there. she's a very calm lady. be i think a has happened. there. she's a very calm lady. be i think a principlehappened. there. she's a very calm lady. be i think a principle of)pened. and i think a principle of feeling so embarrassed, she stood because will not stood down because she will not work. embarrassment work. because an embarrassment to family. i kind of to the royal family. i kind of hope that once the investigation i to be i think they're going to be investigation i'm hoping that once that maybe they once it's done that maybe they might maybe see might relook at it and maybe see what hopefully was what actually hopefully was nothing damage done nothing bad done no damage done and but the and see to which she can but the who i think it's be who knows i think it's will be an overreaction do have to an overreaction but i do have to ask about harry. meghan yes. so
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there's this haven't seen there's this new i haven't seen it it's a good it myself. yeah, it's a good i've trailer. it it i've seen the trailer. it it does make watch it that's does make you watch it that's for because it's quite , for certain because it's quite, it's powerful . it's going it's quite powerful. it's going to be really interesting because the difficult part me, as i the difficult part for me, as i knew i don't meghan, i've knew i don't know meghan, i've never known meghan, knew never known meghan, but i knew how well and difficult how to really well and difficult is understand that you know is i understand that you know they're obviously wasn't going to that wasn't to do to meet the that wasn't to do their if i said to their thing and if i said to what royal family i have what if the royal family i have said become royal said to become these royal celebrities never celebrities which is never happened before i think doing this programme, i understand maybe they want people to see what they're doing, but we what they're doing, but as we all they a private all know, they want a private life. i don't understand why life. so i don't understand why they there, why they want the cameras there, why they want the cameras there, why they it's almost bev and they want it's almost a bev and that's people don't that's what people don't understand, if understand, you know. but if they want do that, that's they want to do that, that's fine. i think we're worried fine. i think we're all worried about agree on this. about i think we agree on this. is what are going to is that what are they going to say? things should say? i think some things should remain private think a bit remain private and i think a bit unfair on his father who he a very good relationship with as i witnessed it's a bit unfair if this actually damages that relationship further because there be a point that you
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there will be a point that you can't back from that. yeah, can't come back from that. yeah, absolutely and know, absolutely. and i don't know, another this week marks another topic this week marks three months since charles became king . how think became king. how do you think he's done ? i think he's doing he's done? i think he's doing amazing. i think is amazing. i think it's is difficult because , you difficult for him because, you know, when it's losing a parent , it's taken on role. , secondly, it's taken on role. he spent his whole life waiting to do and he's no know is he doing it? he's doing an amazing job. and i think if you had the vacuum in preparation, the coordination of actually taking this and was crying away for the reason right so things like starting to ready for the starting to get ready for the coronation that long coronation which isn't that long away you know, so it's going to be exciting, sad be it's exciting, it's a sad time, it's also exciting time, but it's also exciting times ahead. i think got times ahead. i think we've got some crowd on the some images of the crowd on the screen it looks screen right now. it looks splendid. beautiful, isn't splendid. it's beautiful, isn't it was back to charles the sick and crying it said parts of and the crying it said parts of it go the but but that was it go for the but but that was created charles sick created for charles the sick it's used that's the crown it's been used that's the crown that the monarch people that actually the monarch people get confused the imperial that actually the monarch people get c
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used since the time george the sixth father but that crown is actual crown that is the and that's the crown that technically the king was at the moment of all when they're actually i love that actually crowned. i love that that that's all history that's our that's thing our heritage. that's the thing that us all isn't it? that unites us all isn't it? british. absolutely, absolutely. proud thank you so much british. absolutely, absolutely. prothat. thank you so much british. absolutely, absolutely. prothat. that's“hank you so much british. absolutely, absolutely. prothat. that's grant.'ou so much for that. that's grant. thank former butler . you are former royal butler. you are with on tv , online and with gb news on tv, online and on your wireless as former chancellor and health secretary sajid javid becomes , the latest sajid javid becomes, the latest tory mp to announce he will stand at the next general election . i'll be asking soon. election. i'll be asking soon. all the are jumping a sinking ship . but now all the are jumping a sinking ship. but now it's time for a check of the latest news headunes check of the latest news headlines with becky . good it's headlines with becky. good it's t 31. i'm bethany in the gb newsroom. the health secretary is being urged to stop grandstanding and to make a deal with unions ahead of nhs strikes this month. the call by former health secretary steven comes as military personnel to cover
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conservative has had another week to after labour held the city of chester with an increased share the vote. whilst the conservatives achieved their worst result in the constituency since 1832. meanwhile, former home and health sajid javid became the 13th conservative mp to announce that he will stand down an mp at the next general election , fuelling speculation election, fuelling speculation that tory mp are jumping ship . that tory mp are jumping ship. they anticipate losing their seats when the country next goes to the polls . so all tory mps to the polls. so all tory mps ship. joining me now is commentator some dowler and editor of the oldie magazine mount. you both forjoining me in the studio some i'll start with you. all the rats jumping ship . yeah, well, i think they ship. yeah, well, i think they are. i think with the chest by—election result as i was just saying like as soon as the people get a chance , stick the people get a chance, stick the knife in, they are because the tories know that there's no way back from this. they have to
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popularity has plummeted and who want to be part of a totally unpopular party. nobody wants everybody there getting slacked off left, right and centre like you know don't want be in that you know i don't want be in that gang want to be you'd be like oh i'm leaving, you know, stepping down before and down before your post. and that's and that's what they're doing. and it's understandable. it's totally understandable. perhaps it is what they're doing. harry, they not doing. but harry, do they not have as public servants have a duty as public servants to least fight for their to at least fight for their constituency and represent their constituency and represent their constituency ? and is this a case constituency? and is this a case of don't want to do the of they don't want to do the good work, glory work they good work, the glory work they not want to be on the backbenches or in opposition? i think latter. think it's exactly the latter. it's interesting one the it's interesting. one of the people leaving the sinking people not leaving the sinking ship is one boris who ship is one boris johnson, who thinks that he has got a chance of a comeback . and he does think of a comeback. and he does think in the in out of the wilderness or cincinnatus the classical reference he likes to make just when tory fortunes are at their lowest, he might bring them back. but i think it's highly unlikely. i mean, would have beenin unlikely. i mean, would have been in power there's an been in power if there's an election two years time for election in two years time for 14 the good things
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14 years. one of the good things about country is we like about this country is we do like long periods for both long periods in power for both countries. it's stable, countries. it's quite stable, isn't tories have isn't it? so the tories have beenin isn't it? so the tories have been in power for 14 years. labour for that. labour have 13 years for that. maggie were in power maggie john major were in power for but think the for 18 years, but so i think the right familiar terms that. right very familiar terms that. but i think the writings on the wall obviously boris is the one person who thinks you can have another shot at it. yeah but, sam, secular, secular sam, this secular, secular system doesn't really help anyone. does it. well obviously, with the state of the country, all financials. with the state of the country, all financials . well, all financials. well, everything, really. people want to blame somebody, and they're to blame somebody, and they're to blame somebody, and they're to blame whoever's in power. it's a poisoned chalice. look. illustrates how hard she to be the leader and the prime minister. less i know better , minister. less i know better, because. because it doesn't matter which party you're in. there's to be millions upon millions of people that dislike you. didn't vote for as soon as you. didn't vote for as soon as you get into power. so it's just it's just unfortunate . i mean, it's just unfortunate. i mean, obviously think the tories obviously i think the tories have a muck up, have made a hell of a muck up, but, know, it's timing as but, you know, it's timing as well and it's just it's just a catalogue disasters for them catalogue of disasters for them . i mean as i before,
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. so i mean as i said before, that way back for that there's no way back for them. to i think to them. i think to i think to years that they're never going them. i think to i think to years 1theirhey're never going them. i think to i think to years 1their reputationer going them. i think to i think to years 1their reputation back 1g them. i think to i think to years 1their reputation back in to get their reputation back in two like long two years. it seems like a long time, not when it comes time, but is not when it comes to politics. don't i to politics. i don't know i think a week is a long time in politics and years. anything could eight could happen after that. eight new but new prime minister yeah, but maybe a good one. maybe they'll get a good one. however trying to i'm. however i'm trying to think i'm. i'm brain here i'm really racking my brain here . years of tory . after 12 years of tory leadership , what leadership, what they accomplished , what you could for accomplished, what you could for the first six or so years of it underneath under there was pretty good economics . i thought pretty good economics. i thought austerity actually worked out pretty well in writing the ship since undermined all of that. now after the. yeah yeah. and i think obviously then completely dominated ever since 2015 ever since 2015 election. so then the pubuc since 2015 election. so then the public spending has gone up . and public spending has gone up. and so the difference between them and labour on public spending is now thin piece of. and now so thin of a piece of. and so you'd be hard to call so now you'd be hard to call them i think they're them tory. i think they're almost certainly doomed is a chance. is this a week? is a
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long time in politics. and rishi is perfectly intelligent . i is perfectly intelligent. i would say he's a lot better than his immediate predecessor, liz truss . and if this is a very big truss. and if this is a very big if. but mortgage come down the economy to improve he can look like the sensible one in response to the complete disaster of liz truss and they're pretty good the last few years of boris but it's highly unlikely. i also want to ask you how. yeah. this cheltenham this by—election. yeah results against the conservatives were predictable. however, the smaller parties haven't done as well as expected parties such as reform who are claiming massive changes their demographics and massive increase in membership. they didn't really do very well, did they? that's right. i mean, you know, in politics, it takes long time for a new two parties be established. you think how long ukip weren't polling at all. well and then they started to poll. well and then had the huge breakthrough the huge breakthrough at the european elections. so it's early days . i
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european elections. so it's early days. i think people are just very tired, aren't they? so ukip was this extraordinary powerful protest group. i don't think the appetite is there yet for another . and actually you for another. and actually you ask most people on street at ask most people on the street at the wouldn't able to the they wouldn't be able to name they all name a name would they all name a single but likewise, if you single. no. but likewise, if you ask many people in the streets , ask many people in the streets, some, i don't think they'd choose sir keir starmer as the leader of the country, do think people are voting against the conservatives rather than for labour and? is it? well, equally bad , i think this is like a joe bad, i think this is like a joe biden , donald trump sort of biden, donald trump sort of thing. like people will vote . thing. like people will vote. joe not necessarily meant joe biden not necessarily meant that biden. that people want joe biden. they didn't trump . and this is didn't want trump. and this is what i think we are going see what i think we are going to see here, people. mean , the here, people. i mean, the leadership, have leadership, the tories have been such people such people. people are embarrassed people don't want to see it. people look their pocket with nothing in it. they look you eat, etc. they and you heat or eat, etc. they and they blame the tories and you know, obviously, you know this brexit we'll about brexit as well. we'll talk about that but i it's think that later. but i it's i think it's a case people people want
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stability and no matter what you think of keir starmer, whether whether he may be boring or whatever he is, he is stable. and, you and they've had and, you know, and they've had the leadership the same the same leadership leaders, of the labour leaders, leaders of the labour for quite a while now and then, not they're not not infighting they're not stabbing other in back stabbing each other in the back by be doing by the tories would be doing that's people like to see. that's what people like to see. well he might but he's well he might be stable but he's surrounded clowns. you surrounded by clowns. did you see angela rayner see video of angela rayner raving other day? the calibre our got our politicians. well we've got diana who can't do maths got diana but who can't do maths got dawn butler who just blocks people the clowns people is we've got the clowns in the labour frontbench. i think guys are running as a clown all. think she's, clown at all. i think she's, i think she's, she's she's a working woman and we don't working class woman and we don't have that, you know, the top high the party. high echelons of the tory party. and what people and again that's what people want to see, want, normality want to see, want, see normality and stability that's and stability and now that's what she looks what angela rayner is, she looks like any on like any, any, any woman on saturday night a good saturday night having a good time. there's time. i mean there's, there's just a politician just because she's a politician doesn't mean that doesn't mean, doesn't mean that she sit there be she has to sit there to be boring. although i run from boring. although i just run from fields for example. is fields of barley for example. is this how do this not the problem? the how do we want to a certain calibre we not want to a certain calibre of politician like of politician or statesman like and respectable and
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and kind respectable and actually would resign if there was scandal are just having was a scandal are just having good fashioned standards. good old fashioned standards. yeah i agree and the standard isn't among the tories isn't great among the tories ehhen isn't great among the tories either. c'est either. but actually c'est norma. and i'm not an actual supporter of labour. i think he's been pretty good. been he's been pretty good. he's been very of very effective. but first of all, removing corbyn, but all the elements to him and the toxic elements to him and the toxic elements to him and the terrible stench of anti—semitism , the party has anti—semitism, the party has been removed and actually been doing very clever things about making that those people standing in the next election. the labour are not attached to those far left groups. so he's done rather a rather good job. i think i've met him a couple of times. the flesh is quite animated and interesting is one of those people that when he goes on telly, as you say , does goes on telly, as you say, does become very dull and he got a slightly unfortunate voice and manner . but slightly unfortunate voice and manner. but but actually done a pretty good job and people of him as being a safe pair of hands. i thought it was interesting though him out against public schools week that was something that's that's read to the to the left he didn't
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need to do that and although 6% of the people in the country go to public school, it's still slightly attacking aspiration. not least he went to himself. so i was surprised by that because he's been clever, but being he's been very clever, but being middle the road to labour is middle of the road to labour is very rare. like tony blair. so that was slightly unusual that that's an interesting point because thrown meat because he's been thrown meat around and centre around left, right and centre some. caught my attention the some. he caught my attention the last couple of weeks when he was talking about tax, cutting tax and when he was talking about cutting dependence cutting our dependence dependency these dependency on immigration. these are things on actually. are two things on actually. yeah, i yeah, that's was quite i, i could myself aligning these could see myself aligning these policies how that affect policies how does that affect someone on the left who someone like you on the left who probably going a bit probably thinks he's going a bit too now. no i'm too far right now. no i'm i agree with your guest. like at the end of the day, that is what's going to win it for them a tony blair sort of you know what's going to win it for them a to of blair sort of you know what's going to win it for them a to of dealingrt of you know what's going to win it for them a to of dealing with you know what's going to win it for them a to of dealing with things ow way of dealing with things i mean this is this is this what we have with david cameron i vote for david i voted vote for david cameron. i voted for for theresa as well for him for theresa as well because both them and because i like both them and they they were not. you they were and they were not. you know, have gone a bit know, the tories have gone a bit far right the people, with
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far right with the people, with people suella braverman people like suella braverman example the term example let's not use the term for i'm going to but for it. well i'm going to but then obviously but then, you know, i just mentioned to other like i mean, you lovely people would say, you know, people people crew, for people would call our crew, for example come on. well example but oh, come on. well i'd a taxable i'd give them a taxable a beneath well i would but beneath those. well i would but i would say people people want kindness in this hashtag be kind age and that's i think that's what you're getting with keir and know he used be and you know he used to be a human rights lawyer and people respect that. okay thank you both you both very much. stay where you are. commentator some are. that was commentator some dowler magazine dowler and of the oldie magazine harry. before we move on to the next debate, let's have a look at you guys have been at what you guys have been saying topics the saying. today's topics on the decline christianity this decline of christianity in this country . marion the census country. marion says the census . is that is that that fewer jhmhhmhmhmn than . is that is that that fewer than 50% of people now identify as christian . i bet they are all as christian. i bet they are all now stocking up their booze cupboards and are busy buying presents for christmas. why if they aren't christian, why are they aren't christian, why are they celebrating christmas? they could save themselves a lot of
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money if they weren't so hypocritical. i see where you're going say careful with going, but i say be careful with this one. we're already hearing or seeing headlines saying should we even celebrate christmas if we're no longer predominantly christian predominantly a christian country, go down country, we don't want go down that think it's better that route. i think it's better than celebrating than a that we are celebrating christmas fact a lot of christmas even in fact a lot of people aren't christian than to not celebrating at all. not be celebrating it at all. eric believe wokeism is eric says, i believe wokeism is the new religion that has replaced christianity. you might be on to something there. i think people are clinging on to whatever they can find around them. being them. the church is being quiet so latching on to wokeness and woke not moral woke values which are not moral , absolute moral, absolutely morally absolute as the christian faith is, it's a big problem and we need to fix it. speak up, christians, says. speak up, christians, mark says. for the decline of christianity is not the real concern. it is the in christian values. oh, it's just as we was saying, there is nothing to replace them with as our society now being lost and quite poisonous , the lost and quite poisonous, the future not hold much . that future does not hold much. that is the essence of it. you're right, mark. the values from
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somewhere. it's alright for people to say i have values, i have good morals, i don't need christian faith. like where do you moral values from you think your moral values from in they from in this country? they come from the we don't have the faith and if we don't have the faith and if we don't have the we lose compass. the faith, we lose that compass. and a something to and that will be a something to see. david says, believe see. david says, i believe archbishop welby has been a disaster . archbishop welby has been a disaster. his response during covid was wholly inadequate. he should resign immediately and make way for someone who actually christian traditions . i actually christian traditions. i think in many you are right that he closed the churches he told priests not to go into churches for anything other than maintenance not to even go in there to pray for their congregation. that's congregation. i think that's a great shame . quite sinful great shame. it is quite sinful and don't many people will get and i don't many people will get over that anytime soon. carol says. over that anytime soon. carol says . i would say that a lot to says. i would say that a lot to do with this is schools. it is no longer simple to teach christianity . some are no longer christianity. some are no longer allowed to perform the lovely little nativity plays at christmas, etc. it's very sad, but was always going to have a big impact. surely carol, you're absolutely right. lovely name by
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way. you're absolutely right. the schools in this country still have an obligation the law to have some form of christian worship distinctly distinctively christian. but most of them don't do it. they don't even teach the lord's prayer. never singing summer singing hymns in a summer anymore shame. and anymore. it's a great shame. and i that has something do i think that has something do with the decline, not just of christianity, moral christianity, but of moral values are so values in this country are so right now it's time for the next debate, christmas calendar debate, the christmas calendar is packed with disruptive industrial action and public angen industrial action and public anger. could rishi sunak's woes . but time is running out. anger. could rishi sunak's woes . but time is running out . a . but time is running out. a deal to send the threat of into the sidings . keep holiday travel the sidings. keep holiday travel plans on track . but it's not plans on track. but it's not just trains . thousands of just trains. thousands of workers across many sectors of the economy, including heathrow airport nurses , staff and airport nurses, staff and ambulance have announced strike dunng ambulance have announced strike during the festive period . but i during the festive period. but i want to ask, who do you think is to blame for the winter of discontent still with me in the studio is political commentator sam dowler and editor of the oldham magazine harry mount .
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oldham magazine harry mount. harry, the workers claim they're striking because they faced a real times cut over the last decade because inflation so surely it's understandable that the government at least some the responsibility for poor management of economy are not. that's true i mean, i don't know about you, kelvin, but my wages haven't gone as fast as inflation of the last couple years. and i wouldn't for a moment expect to go on strike. i would them my colleagues in a terrible position. i considering it exactly we do it now. but but but i do think the government is ultimately at fault. they haven't cracked down hard enough when people do come with them for for demands. i mean, for them for demands. i mean, famously heath famously ted heath in the seventies tried to address the massive issue then much much worse than now and actually drew up the legislation but didn't wasn't tough enough to push through keith joseph the secretary before that did draw up the legislation but he wasn't tough enough to bring it through it was it was thatcher who had the toughness to take them on
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and you remember we wouldn't need confrontation need to have a confrontation like the extraordinary like that. but the extraordinary confrontation, the coal strike and miners in 1984. and so and the miners in 1984. and so ultimately, you either give in to these wage demands and of course i sympathise with the nurses, but you can't possibly give people in 19% pay rise with a broke government, not least given out billions during covid. and so at some level they've got to stand up to them. well indeed. and we heard that sadiq khan was saying that if he becomes mayor of london, there'll no strikes on. there'll be no more strikes on. his think we've had his tenure. i think we've had more on his than more strikes on his tony than there boris johnson. there were on the boris johnson. some the strikes some i think the strikes are up and country. people are and down the country. people are just just fed up out with almost every single aspect of society know at the moment. obviously, we're talking about winter of discontent. think of discontent. and i think a lot of that it's very to blame that i mean, it's very to blame the think can the tories, but i think we can point finger squarely at point the finger squarely at vladimir well. really vladimir putin as well. i really just for the strikes. just felt for the strikes. sorry, gone. not talking sorry, gone. i'm not talking about the strikes. i'm talking about the strikes. i'm talking about of crisis about the cost of living crisis and the energy . and of course the energy. because if it wasn't this, this was a war that a special
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was a war that was a special let's call it a special . i let's call it a special. i remember it was ridiculous . if remember it was ridiculous. if that if it lasted operation that , was it. yeah. if it was if it lasted, you know, the few days, few weeks that he had wanted, then have then obviously he would have taken ukraine, but taken over ukraine, etc. but this this is ricocheted this is this is ricocheted around entire and, around the entire world. and, you and as the energy so you know and as the energy so expensive now we're going expensive now and we're going into a freezer and it's freezing enough today and putting enough today and people putting you know , heating eating etc. you know, heating or eating etc. this this is, you know, a lot this is this is, you know, a lot to do with president putin. i mean, something in mean, there may be something in that, come on, hurry. this that, but come on, hurry. this is a cost of lockdown crisis, isn't it? this is the fact that the borrowed the government borrowed more money government money than any government combined, spent more money than money than any government comlabour spent more money than money than any government comlabour government money than any labour government and that they've put us in this they've they've put us in this mess in a way to solve a pandemic. yes. so we've this pandemic. yes. so we've got this huge now huge and actually they're now raising left, right and centre to pay for things . so people are to pay for things. so people are taking it. so people are taking back it. so people are taking back it. so people are taking home even less pay. so it's they want it's understandable. they want more and also awful lot of more and also an awful lot of people got used to being at home still being paid and many circumstances realising their
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jobs are really extremely tough and if the option was that they could either find another job or go on strike and get more money for the same job, it's completely illogical. so it's logical that they're demanding this money. but the question is when does the government step in and say the money isn't , which, and say the money isn't, which, you know, it isn't. i mean , you know, it isn't. i mean, you're onto something. they are going off on bit of a tangent, going off on a bit of a tangent, but have used to but people have been used to being on the state. being dependent on the state. now to at now people are used to being at home, very home, getting paid to do very little. you think this push little. do you think this push universal basic income that has been isn't but been suggested isn't it? but i mean now incredible the mean it's now incredible the last couple of years, the amount of people who are choosing to be worthless their perfect and a good physical state and if paid to be at home. i'm not saying all shirkers but course with all shirkers but of course with ihappened all shirkers but of course with i happened to do a job that i love is very lots of love is very enjoyable. lots of people have that people don't have that opportunity. very opportunity. thank you very much. so i thought if they solidarity. yes, thank you for that doesn't agree with me you can see why we're anywhere in it we're in a perfect storm where people just don't want to go
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into so is this the into work. so is this the government's . well, you know government's. well, you know what grinds my gears? i know does with a lot people i mean especially i mean it's the it's standing outside of our houses clapping for the nhs and then they ask for extra money which we all said oh they're the backbone country, that backbone of our country, that the and know the won't provide it. and i know 90% obviously a lot, but, 90% is, is obviously a lot, but, but where is the money to provide. money. it's provide. it's all money. it's all money. we're also all taxpayers money. we're also i 45,000,045 billion on wasted on ppe that didn't work. i say no to that, too. yeah, exactly so it's just and then so i mean, it's just and then obviously and then obviously you look at the energy companies and how much profit they've made, etc. it's just galling. etc. it like it's just galling. it's how much money has been wasted, how much money is taken by you know who don't by people. you know who don't need billionaires, etc. and need it, billionaires, etc. and then and then, you know, everyday and everyday people have less and less so mean obviously. less and less so mean obviously. you you have to blame the you know, you have to blame the government because that they're the in power and know the ones in power and know you've got sympathy with people that nurses that striking but should nurses and people in critical care positions be allowed to strike
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strike ? it's very difficult strike? it's very difficult because my partner, for example, works in the care sector, which is criminally underpaid . and, is criminally underpaid. and, you know, and that's why there were so many people leaving the sector. and they're the ones that after, you that are looking after, you know, the or disabled you know just so many people jobs that the people don't want to do and they're getting paid ridiculously nothing to do it . ridiculously nothing to do it. so they you know we can expect them all to be altruistic so put money into that sector for a start and then, you know, look and look after the people that really need it but if your partner was to strikes someone's going that's going without care. well that's the they strike the thing that they don't strike and to about it and i've talked to him about it before think i think that before and i think i think that obviously nurses that nobody to strike to it's the strike nobody wants to it's the last resort it's the last the nurse is like that in that job. they because they they love it because they because help people and because want to help people and care people. would never because want to help people and carit people. would never because want to help people and carit unless3le. would never because want to help people and carit unless they would never because want to help people and carit unless they fellould never because want to help people and carit unless they fell out never because want to help people and carit unless they fell out .1ever because want to help people and carit unless they fell out . they do it unless they fell out. they absolutely had to do. we just need a strong leader finish need a strong leader to finish job thatcher and job that thatcher started and actually people striking actually stop people striking first. do and the
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first. i think do and the legislation is there i'm struck what's different as well it's not quite as bad as it was in the seventies yet actually how many sympathise many people do sympathise is with strikers they with the strikers which they certainly seventies certainly by the late seventies early eighties and the nurses and the nurse leaders have been perfectly reasonable in their language. so i do think the rail unions among some of them, there's been there has been a certain amount of malice choosing to strike in the build up to christmas . on days when up to christmas. on days when people are going home to their family or coming in to london for parties or whatever, i think is an element of targeted malice. and i can't sympathise with that at all. but that's the point once caused, which to point they once caused, which to put on the to pay more put pressure on the to pay more of our money to them. but we also that payer is also know that tax payer is incredibly within that incredibly strong within that sector. the rail drivers , for sector. the rail drivers, for example, are being paid about 60 grand. that's more than lot of normal normal folk sort of normal folk. normal folk sort of sympathy is not going to go up with yes. and they're with this. yes. and they're still spanish still on incredible spanish practises then this practises and then this extraordinary i took extraordinary thing. i took a train. day day
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train. the other day on the day after the train strike, it might as well have been a strike because of that great excuse of saying were in the saying the trains were in the wrong thought wrong places. i thought trains were going one were capable of going from one place i'm amazed place to another. but i'm amazed i'm situations when i'm in those situations when seething still lot of people sympathise with them. so perhaps the realise the government realise they haven't quite public haven't yet quite got the public will behind them to be really hard line . but i'm for them hard line. but i'm all for them being hardline these. can't being hardline on these. i can't make all these what's make this up. all these what's on what while these strikes politically motivated you think . no, i don't. don't think . no, i don't. i don't think they are i think i mean, i agree . it's horrendous that they strike when, you know, when people needed time people really needed that time of holiday. but this is obviously know it's when they've got people and government by got people and the government by you know by the short and curlies because that is what that what things done. that is what gets things done. and think they as you and i don't think they as you just said finish what what thatcher started everyone should be able to strike that's if that's how they how they feel . i that's how they how they feel. i think i think you know , it's think i think you know, it's a it's a it's a right especially that we have in this country for, you know, peaceful protest
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. i think that right should come along with the right for employees be able fire employees to be able to fire anyone that strikes replace anyone that strikes and replace them was them immediately. that was political. the political. sam dowler and the editor , oldie magazine, editor, the oldie magazine, harry you much for harry mouch, thank you much for your today . you are your time today. you are watching calvin's common sense crusade the reverend calvin crusade. me, the reverend calvin robinson. i'll back you robinson. i'll back with you after this short break. robinson. i'll back with you after this short break . looking after this short break. looking ahead to this weather and the uk is cold and cloudy for many with showers feeding in from the east . let's take a look at the details in the southwest be mostly dry, but it could be a showers and should also be a few breaks in the cloud in the southeast it will be largely cloudy. the cloud will stopped from dropping to low , but it from dropping to low, but it will be cold with some rain to much of wales . have will be cold with some rain to much of wales. have a dry evening with the best chance . evening with the best chance. any clear skies in the southwest with showers further northeast northeast , it will be a cloudy northeast, it will be a cloudy end to the day across. the midlands, some showers are
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likely, but they will be intermittent , mostly light . intermittent, mostly light. it'll be a different story . the it'll be a different story. the northeast, the showers will be frequent and heavy at times. the showers could fall as sleet or snow over higher ground . western snow over higher ground. western parts of scotland will stay mostly dry , clear skies, meaning mostly dry, clear skies, meaning it will be cold. so the east we can expect more cloud and wintry showers this evening and overnight . meanwhile across overnight. meanwhile across northern ireland. we can expect some showers mainly towards northern and western parts with some clear spells in between , some clear spells in between, but perhaps not as chilly as last showers will continue to feed in from the northeast with chillier and clearer weather . chillier and clearer weather. the west. and that's how the weather shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning . we are into tomorrow morning. we are and we'd like to say thank you to each and every one of you for bringing us your conversations, for helping great nation find its voice. we are here for you on radio, television and online
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i'm hello and welcome back. this is calvin's crusade on your tv , calvin's crusade on your tv, wireless and online . lots more wireless and online. lots more coming up on today's. wireless and online. lots more coming up on today's . but first coming up on today's. but first it's the news with . cathy
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it's the news with. cathy calvin. thank you. good afternoon . it's 3:01. i'm afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm bethany elsey . you up to date bethany elsey. you up to date from the gb news? the health secretary is urged to stop grandstanding and to make a deal with unions ahead of nhs strength. this month , the call strength. this month, the call by former health secretary stephen dorrell comes as military personnel prepare to cover striking sector workers . cover striking sector workers. around 2000 troops, civil servants , other government servants, other government volunteers are trained to help limit disruption during the festive period . mr. dorrell says festive period. mr. dorrell says demands a 19% pay rise may not be possible , but the current be possible, but the current offer isn't good enough . most offer isn't good enough. most people remembering this applause that we all gave to the nhs dunng that we all gave to the nhs during , the pandemic would think during, the pandemic would think that 3% isn't doesn't properly respond in particular for low nhs workers, doesn't respond to the challenges of the moment.
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and i would hope that steve barclay would come out of the grounds , stand and engage with grounds, stand and engage with the people who he relies . he the people who he relies. he can't deliver health care . sat can't deliver health care. sat in the secretary of state's office , the head of the watchdog office, the head of the watchdog has been forced to resign an and historical allegation . it's now historical allegation. it's now emerged michael lockwood been the director general of the independ office for police conduct since 2018 is facing a criminal investigation action. the home secretary suella bronfman, says she told him to quit or face immediate suspension after learning about the probe . when he announced his the probe. when he announced his resignation on friday, he said it was for personal and domestic reasons . the conflict in ukraine reasons. the conflict in ukraine slowing down and us intelligence say they expect that to continue over the winter months . over the winter months. washington says kiev's economy is now suffering after russia launched targeting its power grid and other critical infrastructure . the director of infrastructure. the director of national avril haines believes
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will be a successful ukrainian counter offensive in the new year. counter offensive in the new year . we expect that, frankly, year. we expect that, frankly, both militaries are going to be in a situation where they're going to be looking to try to refit in a reconstitute so that they're kind of prepared for that counteroffensive . but we that counteroffensive. but we actually have a fair amount of scepticism as to whether or not the russians will be fact prepared to do that . and i think prepared to do that. and i think yeah, think more optimistically for the . ukraine matt hancock's for the. ukraine matt hancock's account of how he managed care homes during the covid pandemic has been described as a deluded version of events in new book, the former health secretary , the the former health secretary, the virus was mainly brought into facilities by infected staff. but the chair of the national care association's that bears no resemblance . the facts. she says resemblance. the facts. she says in the early stages of the outbreak , covid patients were outbreak, covid patients were discharged hospitals and put into care homes without testing . eng
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into care homes without testing. eng tonight in their first match in the knockout stage of the world cup.the the knockout stage of the world cup. the africa of nations holders were runners up in group eight, but three lions remain unbeaten , are favourites to get unbeaten, are favourites to get through to the next round. former england manager eriksson told us gareth southgate has a strong to choose from up front. yes, a lot of options. harry kane will play. i suppose if he's if he's fit and should play, of course. but then who's playing around him? it can foden. it can be sterling rashford saka grealish . you rashford saka grealish. you cannot play all them. so you . cannot play all them. so you. yeah.i cannot play all them. so you. yeah. i hope you played foden arrestable tonight. i hope so . arrestable tonight. i hope so. and england fans and cattle are optimistic you feel hopeful? i'm very high school prediction for you in england. how are you feel about tonight, guys? incredibly nervous. we know it's going to be a tough game and it's never
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easy at this stage. you know, group stages are out the way and if it can happen. senegal have got team going got a great team and it's going to one. prediction to be a tough one. prediction three one england is way too . three one england is way too. i'm going to go to one. maybe all for extra time, but then i'll be in tears. so let's not go. but no penalties and preparations. so well underway for king charles is coronation , for king charles is coronation, which is just 150 days away. the sun, edwards crown has now been removed from the tower of london to be resized for the ceremony which is expected to be much smaller than the one for the late queen. around 2000 guests are expected of 8000. royal commentator michael cole told gb news the crown first worn by king charles , the second. now king charles, the second. now this crown quite interesting it's used once in reign it weighs it's used once in reign it weigh s £5 and before her weighs £5 and before her coronation during the second 1953. and i do remember it the queen walked the palace and
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obviously in our day clothes getting used to it because . it getting used to it because. it is quite a technique to keep it steady and straight . you're up steady and straight. you're up to date , gb news. we'll bring to date, gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now let's get back to calvin calvin . let's get back to calvin calvin. i hello and welcome. this is the common sense crusade with me. the reverend calvin robinson. and here's what's coming up this afternoon . the census results afternoon. the census results revealed that england no longer a majority christian country , a majority christian country, sparking calls for an end to the church's role in parliament and schools . so i'll be asking church's role in parliament and schools. so i'll be asking as the uk is still a christian country then gareth southgate says england's tag as favourites means nothing as they prepare for the world cup last 16
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meeting with senegal this evening broadcaster ed mcgee will join me to give his predictions and the wellcome trust welcome collection has defended its decision to end a racist and sexist exhibition about its founder. should we be getting rid of museum artefacts because people find them offensive . and of course you can offensive. and of course you can join in any of our discussions by emailing gb news at gbnews.uk or by tweeting at gb news. dashboard . dashboard. as we've been discussing the 2021 census has revealed that fewer than half of people in england and wales now identify as christian. the time ever. 46.2% of people ticked the christian box . 2021 a decline of christian box. 2021 a decline of 13% from the 2011 census. meanwhile those saying they had no religion rose from 37.2, up
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from a quarter in 11. joining me now is the reverend michael coren, anglican and author and lois mcclatchey communications officer at edf . how did it do officer at edf. how did it do with your surname? you did pretty well . reverend michael, pretty well. reverend michael, did these figures come as surprise to you? they did. first of all, i have to hearing you talk about football was amusing, because knowing your love for the doesn't love a game of the game doesn't love a game of footy. you know , was really footy. you know, was really interesting. i'm based toronto, canada. month we had our canada. last month we had our census that came out and the figures were almost i identical. no surprise. it's quite eerie and i think that's been replicated throughout the western really. i'm not western world really. i'm not concerned. i don't think any informed onlooker surprised informed onlooker was surprised by . look, the early church by this. look, the early church was much smaller and did extremely and i quite like the idea of a more level playing field, meaning we have to really make case for the faith. i come from a country where there's no established argue established church, so we argue the case . christianity. if the case. christianity. if i want break it down obviously want to break it down obviously
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a and i say it a new generation and i say it with our four children, they this spiritual but there they have rejected some of organised religion growth in other religions immigration base. i don't think that's a major concern . that are concern. that group, who are they ? secular or atheist? it's they? secular or atheist? it's not. i think it's often indifferent. they just don't really care that much. really know or care that much. but mean they're lost to but that mean they're lost to christianity and i want to christianity and i don't want to sound to , but see this as an sound to, but i see this as an opportunity and i'm the figures might be even worse because a lot of people who say yes , lot of people who say yes, particularly in the catholic church , they don't really go any church, they don't really go any more . other churches, too. but more. other churches, too. but i've seen this particularly within the within catholicism. so the numbers even they numbers could be even than they are. be too are. but let's be too downhearted about it. lois, it's hard not to be down forever . hard not to be down forever. michael saying we need to be making the case christianity. but are we even doing that ? but are we even doing that? that's question. that's a good question. according to the evangelical alliance involved in a alliance who are involved in a similar they found similar survey, they found there's 6% who are there's actually 6% who are practising. it's the number quite far down from 46. indeed i think the church thrives under
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pressure. we see that in countries like china , the church countries like china, the church is flourishing and the good is being preached to everyone. and maybe a good thing for the church have incentive to maybe a good thing for the chlsharing|ave incentive to maybe a good thing for the chlsharing the incentive to maybe a good thing for the chlsharing the goodincentive to maybe a good thing for the chlsharing the good news ive to maybe a good thing for the chlsharing the good news and o be sharing the good news and realise is not something realise this is not something that all that is known. everyone as all have that offer of redemption available christ jesus . available through christ jesus. so it's so from that perspective it's good, from societal good, but from societal perspective, i think we should take for thought before we take pause for thought before we start of wiping start to kind of wiping christiane out. we say from research from historians like tom , the glorious impact tom holland, the glorious impact that christianity had on a society that was very depraved. it would treat women slaves almost. it would not give every person individual human dignity andifs person individual human dignity and it's very easy to tickle one's before and after birth. and people lived in a very different culture . and now basic different culture. and now basic premises that we have human equality, that all people have rights just by virtue of them being human. that's thanks to christianity . so we should christianity. so we should really be careful to before we put our country and our society. i will come back to you on that because i can hear you because i guess i can hear you seething. the
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seething. but know i'm in the world but i think he's world of tom, but i think he's way too optimistic of that analysis. i really. i analysis. i really. firstly, i want address issue of want to address this issue of the because , reverend the west because, reverend curran seeing curran said that we're seeing things canada. i think things in canada. and i think for it's obvious we're for it's obvious why we're seeing the decline in canada and in uk north america in the uk and in north america and australia, what we're and in australia, what we're seeing in those countries is very obvious. do think very obvious. what do you think is problem? i'm seeing is the problem? well, i'm seeing an resistance from an increasing resistance from the government to allow freedom of religion, especially for christians , perhaps because it christians, perhaps because it seems that we're old fashioned and often represented and we're often represented on television people scott television by people like scott in have lot of voice in or we don't have lot of voice into our culture at this point, but it's actually quite a serious point. although it's funny because the are bringing in legislation even as we that would limit the right to and in certain public spaces a lot of christians like to pray for women and for children outside abortion facilities . and abortion facilities. and according legislation going according to legislation going through could through right now, that could soon be criminalised. it's also we're seeing the growing restrictions placed street restrictions placed on street pictures were arrested for pictures who were arrested for preaching from bible. we'll preaching from the bible. we'll get in a further debate preaching from the bible. we'll grlittle in a further debate preaching from the bible. we'll grlittle bit in a further debate preaching from the bible. we'll
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grlittle bit laterfurther debate preaching from the bible. we'll grlittle bit later on. her debate preaching from the bible. we'll grlittle bit later on. butdebate a little bit later on. but you're on the on the money, the i shudder to ask, reverend michael, why are we seeing michael, but why are we seeing it's happening in canada and uk? but is the what do you think is the result of the decline? is it that we're not catching up with the well scripture and the times. well scripture and christianity are not about changing the times. there's a certain morality of that. yes. thank and the times can be thank you. and the times can be bad. would you ask the bad. i mean, would you ask the christians with the christians change with the times? germany said, times? in 1935, germany said, we're to play that game. we're going to play that game. okay, you, we're going to play that game. okay, you, i would okay, but to annoy you, i would say that i believe scripture gospels are based on love , gospels are based on love, inclusion and peace . why would inclusion and peace. why would they know me? well, i just test it. i think we're actually a very radical and extremely radical sect, if you like. i think jesus was a revolutionary figure . i could tell you that figure. i could tell you that young people we mentioned the gay issue last week . i think gay issue last week. i think young people simply be part of an institution they perceive as being homophobic. i know that's the my children. they the case with my children. they were straight, but just were all straight, but they just wouldn't be part of that. and too you mentioned the
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too often you mentioned the depiction christianity, depiction of christianity, too often of often what we see of christianity in north christianity on tv in north america an extent is america and to an extent here is people rather than people saying no rather than singing , they're no to singing, they're saying no to equal marriage, no to women's rights, no to political to this. and we say to sin, but how do you define sin? sin, the bible defines sin quite clearly. yes, it does . rejecting stranger, it does. rejecting the stranger, closing the border to the poor, ignonng closing the border to the poor, ignoring the sin, missing markets analogy you turn from the greek missing mark. there are people who are obsessive about things that are hardly ever mentioned in. so think ever mentioned in. so i think homosexuality and interest. i'm very much again say and i hope i live such a life but it's the definition of sin and i know the left get it wrong of i do but on the right there is a certain concentration on very precise definitions of sin that actually aren't particularly biblical . aren't particularly biblical. lois i obviously disagree with pretty much everything that father karen says, but that's why i want to get your perspective, because , sure, he's perspective, because, sure, he's in that faith office love. it's
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about compassion, it's about charity, but it's about being chargeable in truth , rather than chargeable in truth, rather than saying yes to everything it's not about saying those things. it's about saying, here is the right way, right . it's about saying, here is the right way, right. is that it's about saying, here is the right way, right . is that not right way, right. is that not the case? i think so. i think we, the church itself and we change to in with change teachings to fit in with it. culture see it. culture we see it statistically from it from places like the pew research centre that churches are centre that churches who are spending more into the cultural times are not the ones that are flourishing . it's those that are flourishing. it's those that are sticking to the truth of scripture, which is eternal and unchanging it's weathered unchanging and it's weathered the years. so the last thousand years. and so think that the church does itself a major disservice and those who are seeking truth around a huge disservice by around them a huge disservice by sticking up for its preaching and grace and truth about all of these matters telling these matters and telling the truth thank for saying that, truth you thank for saying that, because it's so obvious me because it's so obvious to me that look at these that if we look at these churches, australia churches, canada, australia america, where the america, the uk, where the church decline. where church is in decline. it's where they trying trace up to they are trying trace up to societal norms, trying to say to sin just to be more sin and just trying to be more relevant. look at the of relevant. we look at the most of the african continent, most of
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asia, eastern asia, most of eastern europe, where thriving. it's where church is thriving. it's where church is thriving. it's where they are adhering to the biblical truth . and that is so biblical truth. and that is so obvious. church would obvious. i wish the church would stop on error stop doubling down on error anyway , moving our next anyway, moving on to our next story , a woman was praying story, a woman who was praying in with . a was in public with. a friend was asked move by local asked to move on by local authorities. she's being authorities. she's after being told could cause told her praying could cause harassment or distress. that's some powerful prayer right there. the woman and her friend were praying near an abortion clinic in bournemouth but were outside the clinic's buffer zone . were nevertheless asked . they were nevertheless asked to on two community to move on by two community safety accredited officers. jobs. what's who also expressed concern that there was a school nearby and children may ask questions. god children asking questions. god children asking questions about praying are still with michael carr, an anglican priest and author, and lois mcclatchey communications officer at, edf uk . i mean, officer at, edf uk. i mean, firstly, lois , baffled by the firstly, lois, baffled by the idea that in this country we have so—called buffer zones , have so—called buffer zones, people are not allowed to pray on the basis of law , illegal to on the basis of law, illegal to pray. so the freedom of religion
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concept is gone . but secondly, concept is gone. but secondly, that these people were praying outside of one of these buffer zones still forced. move on. that's right. what's going on our country. this incident really demonstrates the slippery slope effect. so when we say that you can't express your religion, your beliefs, even religion, your beliefs, or even your opinions in one part of the pubuc your opinions in one part of the public space, one specific reason it's only a matter of time that it doesn't make sense anymore 150 metres? anymore. why about 150 metres? why not 200 metres? why only two pro—life opinions? could we see the same of measures? these buffer zones apply to different opinions. for example , critical opinions. for example, critical feminism could see things here a buffer zone outside of town halls because some people find that as as that offensive. as soon as we introduce this idea that we can or government ban expression or the government ban expression of opinion that they disagree with in a certain space, we're off on a slippery slope and that's what happened to livia and her friend, were simply and her friend, who were simply praying a street and praying on a public street and were on by the were told to move on by the local council. that shouldn't be happening society happening. a democratic society like uk , i mean, this is not like the uk, i mean, this is not just democratic society, this just a democratic society, this is a christian society.
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just a democratic society, this is christian;tian society. just a democratic society, this is christian;ti('embedded the christian is embedded in our laws, our is inseparable . so laws, in our is inseparable. so for a christian country to outlaw christian prayer and the suggestion that children might see people praying i mean it would mean actually it would be my advice to anyone watching pray the rosary you are pray the rosary wherever you are on outside schools on the tube outside schools wherever you are the rosary wherever you are pray the rosary non—stop. would not be good non—stop. would that not be good advice redefine advice for them? let's redefine what's really going on here in the states . let's say the united states. let's say i would say anti—choice, but to use your terminology, pro—life organisations have been classified by the fbi as groups . doctors who perform abortions have been killed they have been disabled for life by being wounded. people have been attacked beaten up. the arson attacks had arson attack in attacks we had arson attack in toronto an clinic . toronto on an abortion clinic. there's a context here now. it's not agree not actually the i would agree in this if . they're outside in this case if. they're outside the buffer zone. it is outrage. just anything should happen to them. in buffer them. but i do believe in buffer zones that who zones so that women who are taking their right, taking advantage of their right, whether you with it or whether you agree with it or not, but reproductive health to go a termination. know go in for a termination. i know you disagree , but should be
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you disagree, but they should be able that without the fact able to do that without the fact that these women were not harassed within . the buffer zone harassed within. the buffer zone outside, even without harassment. i know inside the buffer zone, i say no . outside buffer zone, i say no. outside the buffer zone, shout pray, because that's what the law is . because that's what the law is. you can't extend the law in arbitrary when you're outside the zone. even going the zone. but even so, i'm going to disagree? i'm sorry to move. you disagree? i'm sorry for it. the law is immoral. you should never be able to outlaw. and for a cleric holding and for. for a cleric holding two clock and two women for a clock and her daughters national daughters be on national television, okay to television, say it's okay to outlaw baffled . it outlaw prayer. i'm baffled. it is not okay. it is absolutely vital to protect right of vital to protect the right of women . go. but who wants to go women. go. but who wants to go into clinic and say, this is into a clinic and say, this is my choice and for them to be harassed , they feel threatened harassed, they feel threatened to intimidate that is sinful to be intimidate that is sinful . not only are you condoning outlaw of prayer, you're condoning abortion as a christian minister , well, christian minister, well, scripture defines life beginning at the first breath, the old testament was recommends abortion in certain cases and if
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you want to get into that argument, you can but be reasonable here. there is not going to be one group saying we have one. we have lost abortion. thatis have one. we have lost abortion. that is part of the law . women that is part of the law. women who abortion should be who want an abortion should be allowed to have those who want to allowed to. to protest should be allowed to. but a certain region what but within a certain region what i've they're outside i've said is if they're outside buffer no one has a right buffer zone, no one has a right to them. i think that's to stop them. i think that's a reasonable compromise. love reasonable compromise. i love person christ. person to recognise christ. jesus was an unborn child who left in the womb and. we are told we are fearfully, wonderfully made. the scripture is and let come back . is clear and let me come back. the you make . but the first point you make. but that's let me thank you. i think you've grossly misrepresented the pro—life this isn't america if we in america there is a definitely a different political but there's many many stories of pro—abortion attacking crisis pregnancy centres which we get this is part of that context of we're not in america, we're in the uk where women are simply praying outside of an abortion facility not speaking, perhaps holding a sign say. i'm here to
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help if want me to. that's help if you want me to. that's another one i've seen to be a common. sign those activities are from are the furthest thing from harassment . there are who harassment. there are women who have testified to. having received that help to having kept their child and becoming all right outside the buffer zone. and by the way, that the sanctity include you saying that something happening. sanctity include you saying that somet people happening. sanctity include you saying that somet people have happening. sanctity include you saying that somet people have hafunderstand these people have no understand of the development of a foetus . of the development of a foetus. the two references in scripture to the womb are about people who are of the ordinary. that's not about the ordinary in the womb. scripture does not talk about abortion when only real reference is this is how you should actually make an abortion happen ? adultery. so you would happen? adultery. so you would have protection in john the baptist life ? nobody else's, is baptist life? nobody else's, is what you're saying . that's what you're saying. that's a poetic reference to john the baptist being told by god to say here is the messiah on his way. it's not a reference to everything. okay, i think we've got wrap there because got to wrap up there because we've everyone we've heard enough. everyone should women's rights. should fight for women's rights. absolutely. but what about children's and if children's rights, too? and if we're talking about choice, it's
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children's rights, too? and if we'iabouting about choice, it's children's rights, too? and if we'iabout the about choice, it's children's rights, too? and if we'iabout the choice hoice, it's children's rights, too? and if we'iabout the choice toice, it's children's rights, too? and if we'iabout the choice to killit's children's rights, too? and if we'iabout the choice to kill an not about the choice to kill an unborn about choice unborn child. it's about choice to not the first to have sex or not in the first place. much. michael place. thank you much. michael carr, priest and carr, an anglican priest and author, mcclatchy author, and lois mcclatchy communications officer at adf, uk . you both forjoining me so uk. you both forjoining me so much that i who i bcp council spokesperson said the anti—social behaviour team has received complaints from residents which were in relation to people present the boundary of the psp oh safe zone in close proximity . a local school they proximity. a local school they were holding signs targeted at women visiting clinic or community safety scheme officers engaged with those individuals to provide words of advice and ask them to move to an alternative location. due to the complaints received plenty to do this afternoon on my concerns but first let's have a look at the way . looking ahead to the the way. looking ahead to the evenings and the uk is looking cold and cloudy for many with showers feeding in from the east. let's take a look at the details . in the southwest, it'll details. in the southwest, it'll be mostly drive. that could be a few . there should also be a few
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few. there should also be a few breaks in the cloud in the southeast. it will largely cloudy. the cloud will stop temperatures from dropping to but it will be cold with some rain to much of will have a dry evening with the best chance of any clear skies . the southwest any clear skies. the southwest with showers northeast . it'll be with showers northeast. it'll be a cloudy end to the day across the midlands . some showers are the midlands. some showers are likely . they will be likely. they will be intermittent and mostly it'll be a different story in the northeast the showers will be frequent and heavy times. the showers could fall as sleet or snow over higher ground. we western parts of scotland will stay mostly dry with clear skies meaning. it will be cold, said the east we can expect more cloud wintry showers this evening . and meanwhile, across evening. and meanwhile, across northern ireland we can expect some showers mainly towards northern and western with some clear spells in between , but clear spells in between, but perhaps not as chilly as last
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channel welcome to the common sense crusade on gb news tv, online and on your wireless. a 65 tonne tank that last saw service in the cold war is being ahead of king charles's coronation year. a team of volunteers , the royal a team of volunteers, the royal launches and nottinghamshire yeomanry museum at thorsby are scraping years of rust the conker tank in an effort to save the machine for the future generation. we sent will hollis along the ride . as restorations along the ride. as restorations 9°, along the ride. as restorations go, they do get much than this. this been particularly bad as you can see the whole thing is rotted away. so that's going to a lot more work than the other one, which only got patchway work on it. 65 tonnes. the conqueror is quite the gate guardian at thorsby when the military museum in
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nottinghamshire asked for volunteers to fix its new tank, it was an yes for army veteran gus. i left in 93 and this is the first chance offered to work on tank and it's like coming home. it's really good. we love it because all the lads, they all know what doing and they've all know what doing and they've all got specific and we just kind of help each other out to get the thing back. scratch the conqueror is covered in rust and more than a few holes to fill which is where restoration expert dave who runs a paint business lead. what we've got here are all the bazooka plates from of the tank and they are basically blood shields to prevent them being bazookas go in and blow the trucks off, which i'm taking these away today to restored to our shops in retford, surrey . first public in retford, surrey. first public demonstration of britain's new armour giant the mighty conqueror , the 65 tonne tank conqueror, the 65 tonne tank that packs a to match its size. the conqueror is one of the biggest tanks ever used by british army. only a hundred and
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80 or so were built . they were 80 or so were built. they were mainly used to defend west germany during the cold war. this one here, it's in desperate need of repair and that's why it's been brought here to the military museum. thorsby the lancers museum , the long service lancers museum, the long service nottinghamshire given to the british army from the early days of light cavalry to the tank regiments that we see today , regiments that we see today, bringing the conqueror helps to complete the museum which opened in 2011. but the connection thorsby park has with tanks goes much further. we're not going to eliminate that goal any time soon. a former lancer captain is the museum's curator thorsby in world war ii. used to have a tank training area and is the first tank to back at thorsby courtyard in over two years. so i think that is a really good advertisment for. thorsby most of the men here in the 17th and 21st lancers, including robert
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this year, the regiment celebrates the centenary of its formation . rob says projects formation. rob says projects like help veterans stay connected to history and each other . when i was leaving school other. when i was leaving school , i had a choice. either go down the pit in a factory or follow what my heart said, which was be a soldier. we have a saying in the forces you either come of the forces you either come of the forces you either come of the forces as a civilian or you come out with off a green brain, which means that you've still got something there for the forces, the museum hopes that visitors will help meet the £10,000 cost of fixing the tank so it can be ready for king charles's coronation in may next year. charles's coronation in may next year . and after that, the small year. and after that, the small piece history will become a big part of this museum's future. will for gb news in thorsby you're with gb news on tv , you're with gb news on tv, wireless and online after the break the welcome collection has defended its decision to end a racist and sexist exhibition about its founder, should we be
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welcome to the common sense crusade on gb news on tv online on your wireless . the welcome on your wireless. the welcome collection has defended its decision to end an exhibition about its founder , henry about its founder, henry welcome, which has been deemed by some as an act of cultural vandalism . so jeremy farrar, the vandalism. so jeremy farrar, the director and julian. julia gillard rather, its chairman, wrote in a letter to the that they no longer consider it the right choice to display the exhibit, which the museum called racist and sexist earlier this week this story raises the question all we are forgetting
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our roots and traditions in this country. have we slipped into the bad habit of viewing our ancestors in an ungrateful and uncharitable way ? well, joining uncharitable way? well, joining me now to discuss this is historian and broadcaster dr. dr. david, thank you very much for joining. dr. david, did me forjoining. dr. david, did me with calvin. we have the reverend. we are being very formal thank you . hi calvin. formal thank you. hi calvin. it's i hope you made mass this morning. i mean, the museum themselves are defining as racist and sexist. how far down this rabbit hole of me fallen out of self denigration in this country. the thing that is profoundly disgrace. i mean, it really is important that we grasp just how serious the welcome the welcome is. britain's largest charity it has got an endowment . you know, the got an endowment. you know, the fake . got an endowment. you know, the fake . £6 billion and rising fake. £6 billion and rising astro and honestly it gives more to medical research than the government it is on the endowment . but is there
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endowment. but is there a criteria. yes the criteria. let me just read came well—prepared, didn't i? henry henry welcomes vision of advancing health. listen to this health through science and culture. but is endowment of the museum what the health through science and culture ? what they're doing is culture? what they're doing is exactly the opposite . they're exactly the opposite. they're espousing the faultless . not espousing the faultless. not mince words. there espousing the forces of dark ness. and it is deeply shocking to the memory of henry. well, needless to say the there is a key there. who is in charge of that? let's read it again and get abs correct. who is the head diversity inclusion ? you know exactly the kind of figure who is called father hat . and she charges welcome. why must we remove welcome from this place that he founded because he a man of enormous wealth , power a man of enormous wealth, power and privilege . right. secondly,
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and privilege. right. secondly, what are the things that are exhibited a lot of them he's welcome is great medical he is he researches himself he travels to africa he travels to south america . and of course, there america. and of course, there are things like, you know, bows, arrows , men, as well as arrows, men, as well as napoleon's toothbrush and the french guillotine. and what she says is , all these things are says is, all these things are the objects of the historical marginalised and exclude looted. fine. shall we just ask a little question about mr. welcome ? or question about mr. welcome? or rather sir henry ? okay. he rather sir henry? okay. he finishes. one of the richest men in the world. 3 million in the early 20th century. right. that's up with the astors. it's up there with jp morgan. do you know how we began truly dirt poor. know how we began truly dirt poor . he was know how we began truly dirt poor. he was born on 40 know how we began truly dirt poor . he was born on 40 acre poor. he was born on 40 acre farm in ormond, wisconsin to matt adventist parents his family is wrecked by the
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american all we hear a lot about the irish potato famine. we don't hear about the american one of 1861. they then emigrate when he is a boy of ten to garden city, minnesota and you know what they choose exactly the moment when the sioux indian tribe rises in the greatest rebellion and besiege is garden city and this lad has to cast and help tend the dead and the dying with his uncle who is a doctor, but how this privileged man begins , how does he become man begins, how does he become one of the richest men in the world? by education by science progress? what does woman in charge of equity diversity and inclusion at the institution he founded wanted to do? she wants to take the side the witch doctor. she wants to take the side of magic. she to take the side of magic. she to take the side of magic. she to take the side of fable and fiction as opposed to reality she wants . opposed to reality she wants. and sorry, calvin, you're wearing collar. we've got the crucifix , got the bible she crucifix, got the bible she wants to take the side of a new
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christian in heresy, which is called work, i would say the work of the puritans. they are is a but it's a christian. it is also remember, there's a lot we could look it up the magnificat he shall cast down the mighty from seats and elevate them low degree and woke is a parody of that. degree and woke is a parody of that . the trouble is you see degree and woke is a parody of that. the trouble is you see i'm secularist finally i believe that well envisaged a world redeemed by science so this is welcome himself on this basis sir henry. well this seemed by knowledge by science , by knowledge by science, by education, what people like and is what is so disgraceful that something like jeremy farrar is head of this by the way did you nofice head of this by the way did you notice who you didn't actually you couldn't even pronounce her name. julia. name. do remember who julia. juua name. do remember who julia. julia is. she's the julia gillard is. she's the failed prime minister of australia . as if we didn't have australia. as if we didn't have enough as we didn't have enough failed women ministers. we have to import . but the failed women ministers. we have to import. but the welcome story
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is one of social mobility that is one of social mobility that is a totally is historic. it is a story it's a story social mobility through education, through knowledge , but not through knowledge, but not simply. he's a man who wanted to give his money away and what he wants to do. he wants keep us back. wants to do. he wants keep us back . health. wants to do. he wants keep us back. health. no, you wants to do. he wants keep us back . health. no, you left out back. health. no, you left out of racist and sexist. we didn't quite make up what the other thing that the welcome is now decided welcome about he was ablest now come i give you a little of autobiography here i'm interested in ableism because i was born disabled . i was born was born disabled. i was born with club feet . i got polio . my with club feet. i got polio. my left leg was going to be about foreign. she's shorter than my right . and you know what? the right. and you know what? the only thing i wanted do was to be able to write . i'm a passionate able to write. i'm a passionate believer in ableism . i do believer in ableism. i do believer in ableism. i do believe it's cult of believe again, it's cult of victimhood . this notion that if victimhood. this notion that if you're deaf , victimhood. this notion that if you're deaf, you still believe in deafness if you're blind, you should believe in blind illness. this is an absurdity . we want to this is an absurdity. we want to eradicate these things. we want
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we want everybody to enjoy good health. i'm to and want everybody to be rich. that's exactly what industrialisation has done . you know, using the has done. you know, using the term we many of us would agree with you. good. but there are those. don't do this. don't want everyone to be doomed. and people people like this wretched woman , father nasir, want to woman, father nasir, want to keep people they want to cultivate as victims. they want to remain they want them to remain ignorant . and what's remain ignorant. and what's worst of all, kalvin , they want worst of all, kalvin, they want to enforce poverty and ignorance and ill on the rest of us and the fact that an institution founded to redeem the world through health and knowledge is now being taken over by this cult of evil and darkness, seems to me to it isn't. cult of evil and darkness, seems to me to it isn't . the charity to me to it isn't. the charity commission should be investigate . i think this is beyond this is beyond this is beyond the usual madness overtake . the reason madness overtake. the reason these diversity inclusion and equality tsars what they stand for the acronym is die isn't it
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because yes that's where the same things to die. and is cultural is it not? cultural vandalism, is it not? this is cultural death. i mean , this is cultural death. i mean, is the death of the enlightenment we are world enlightenment we are a world that was created by the enlightenment, by science, by knowledge, by education you and i are products of it and i was born i was born in dirt poverty but i was born it wasn't like poon but i was born it wasn't like poor. well not poorly. welcome, brilliant, clever , forceful. brilliant, clever, forceful. welcome, you . i'm sorry. i don't welcome, you. i'm sorry. i don't believe the meek inherit, the earth. i believe henry welcome and destock you inherit? yes but. but requires effort. it requires force which denies sin and not entirely virtues, you know , the christ came to bring know, the christ came to bring a sort , right? if okay. this the sort, right? if okay. this the does the other . but that's not does the other. but that's not the jesus meek and mild that's in the jesus wasn't incredibly meek i agree with a lot of so it is a modern perversion again on the contrary i coming this is the contrary i coming this is the common sense crusade . great
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the common sense crusade. great great. i might even be on provided we don't get much religion now we must have too much religion in our stay there eventually. that's. that's my mate dave a.k.a david starkey , a mate dave a.k.a david starkey, a historian and broadcaster. in a statement, the welcome collection said. we are deeply committed to amplifying voices of those whose histories and lived lives are embodied in the collection to and more inclusive , equitable stories about human and health to fully achieve we aim, we must create spaces for multiple perspectives rather than the single perspective of one privileged and powerful man man . before we move on to next man. before we move on to next debate, let's have a look at what you've been saying about today's topics. the decline of christianity in the uk says concrete . who do go to are not concrete. who do go to are not being categorised properly and christianity is not being as a priority in schools yes, we should teach the basics of other religions, but christianity should be made the main religion
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thatis should be made the main religion that is taught which is currently not the case . agree currently not the case. agree with you, elizabeth. we have to choose set of values. we have to choose set of values. we have to choose a faith. that's no bad thing. angela on to say i'm someone who was confirmed into the church of england a child and who hasn't visited a church for almost 57 years. i personally the happy clappy trend the church possibly done to appeal to the young also church tend to be frequently which is not encouraging strangers. when i was young, the vicar who would visit people who were not part of the congregation and help the sick and poor and go to the public houses to social because do not do this anymore . i think you do this anymore. i think you want to something, angela. i think vickers should be out and aboutin think vickers should be out and about in that class, socialising and being the community. and being part of the community. absolutely catechism in absolutely and catechism in church . to be stronger, it church needs. to be stronger, it needs properly. you needs to be done properly. you are the lesley says i are spot on the lesley says i think the census data is great news as we cast off superstition and myths and recognised there is no invisible friend in the sky. i write as a divinity
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graduate and former teacher for former teach. i'm divinity graduate. you don't seem to have lot for faith. that's lot of respect for faith. that's interesting. you know interesting. leslie you know this the sky fairy one is a common that use out common one that people use out of you know, of ignorance. truly, you know, all society wasn't all western society wasn't civilisation was built civilisation itself was built and founded on christianity . it and founded on christianity. it didn't come of nowhere. so didn't come out of nowhere. so to a myth and to suggest it's all a myth and something be getting something we should be getting rid is dangerous. because what do the void nature do we fill? the void and nature abhors it will be filled abhors a void. it will be filled with the with something else. and on the decline the conservatives, decline of the conservatives, mark conservatives are mark says the conservatives are toast at the general toast at the next general election. without election. that is, without question. but labour couldn't win. labour couldn't win a one ticket raffle. nobody is electing that clown. starmer this is the problem , isn't it, this is the problem, isn't it, that people are voting against the tories rather than for labour? we need to party say labour? we need to party to say this what we are for, rather this is what we are for, rather than being against the opposition. wouldn't that be nice for a change? speaking of conservatives, jonathan aiken is best his political best known for his political career, which saw represent career, which saw him represent the constituent c of south punnets for 23 years and hold two ministerial positions. however, after spending seven
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months in prison for perjury 1999, jonathan began studying. the bible, became a student christian theology at wycliffe hall oxford was finally ordained an anglican priest in 2009 ten, the reverend jonathan is with me now in the studio. thank you very much for joining now in the studio. thank you very much forjoining me on a sunday. i had to celebrate it this morning. i did. fantastic. i that you've started i understand that you've started to attend alpha or you did before you went to prison was that what set you on the journey towards faith? well, many things started me on that journey, but certainly alpha course back in . certainly alpha course back in. the 1997 when i hadn't heard of it, no idea what it was to write, i was persuaded rather against my will at the time to go to it and i always remember the end of the first alpha course meeting my fundamental fear was one of relief. nobody have it or clap it up me. nobody asked me to confess my sins in pubuc asked me to confess my sins in public , the kind of rumours that public, the kind of rumours that go on and i stuck with the
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course and it got better and better and better teaching got better and better teaching got better . and although i'm not an better. and although i'm not an absolutely total paid up alpha i think it is a wonderful introduction to christianity and i still teach it. i've been teaching in quite parts of i think it's fantastic. i'm an alpha fan, although i like to move on a bit further. alpha fan, although i like to move on a bit further . well, move on a bit further. well, where teaching christianity explored in my church in the new yean explored in my church in the new year, which is very similar thing with walking conservative in the theology, i think in the theology, but i do think alpha very good thing and alpha is a very good thing and getting faith. getting people into the faith. now you're you're known for saying that rejecting at saying that you are rejecting at first you didn't want to first because you didn't want to give bad give the dog collar a bad reputation. still stand reputation. do you still stand by guess i've by words? well, i guess i've moved that too, but at moved on from that too, but at the time i was a disgraced politician as well. newspapers kept calling me and that was fair comment . and i think fair comment. and i think anybody who knows ordination should try and apply a clean sheet behind . so at the time sheet behind. so at the time i did feel i was not right for or
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worthy of it. but when god starts to murmur at you, i mean, i've resisted for some time. i'm not so sure you had a clean slate. you were baptised and born in the holy spirit? yes and certainly in deep theological terms, yes but in the eyes of the world who are quite important, i think in ordination choices , too. no, i wasn't . oh, choices, too. no, i wasn't. oh, can you tell me a bit about that from your criminal past into an ordained minister? because it's quite a juxtaposition, isn't it 7 quite a juxtaposition, isn't it ? well, after i came out of prison, i had this unusual change. i went to the one person in britain which had worse food and worse plumbing plumbing, more uncomfortable beds in the prison. and that was an anglican college , i can attest to that. college, i can attest to that. we were working for. well, i had one of all teachers like graham tomlin and michael green and . tomlin and michael green and. the a—lister and anyway, i really loved my time learning,
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but never i would move towards becoming a priest just wasn't on my agenda at all. but i was always busy all, this time in prison ministry in early form, particularly in america . i particularly in america. i trained with a great figure called charles colson. it's also been a disgrace . a politician been a disgrace. a politician and a anyway, i am . it was and a anyway, i am. it was a gradual process . and one of the gradual process. and one of the things in my prayers still do is to safeguard anything else you'd like me to . and to my amazement like me to. and to my amazement one day, or as interesting actually once you can be ordained , i panicked and i'm ordained, i panicked and i'm saying i said , shut up. god, saying i said, shut up. god, this is ridiculous . am too old this is ridiculous. am too old and not worthy of a. then the moment started to say i'm actually meant i wanted you to represent chaplain. well, that's something i felt i could conceivably do, even so, i resisted and then somebody sent me a little verse of doggerel
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written by the cricket captain of england in his day i'm going just was famous as ben stokes. now whose name was he stood , and now whose name was he stood, and he had been cricket captain of england when he got the call to become a of the clergy in the church of england and everyone said oh how wonderful great batsman city star was going to be wants to join the church and he said well yes i do but i want to be a prison chaplain and that he would be in no time if i knew stark was a mainstream church but being prison chaplain and that's below the sort and sieges i got fed up with trying to explain why he wanted to be a prison drop and as he wrote this little burst of doggerel went as follows some like to live within the sound of church chapel bell. i to run a rescue shop within yard of hell and soon as i read that, knowing prison can be yard from hell, that's actually i would love to do that. so i then talked to my bishop and others
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and i was ordained to be a prison chaplain and i love it. i find it really fulfilling, really interesting . and its really interesting. and its ministry at the sharp end, a great admirer i think, you know, no one who wants to be a bishop should ever become a bishop. i think as a christian minister should aim to be in the places where ministry is needed the most, and that is in prisons and in areas of deprivation. so i greatly that but recently well this week we've had the census data that shows that christianity in this country is in decline it has in a sharp decline it has been for of decades now, but for a number of decades now, but now in a minority that this a came as a surprise to you and b why do you think it might be ? why do you think it might be? well, i there have been well, i know there have been some headlines some journalists headlines about it, those who write and read it, but those who write and read these stories and regurgitate them are taking a very parochial . first of all, christian not in incline decline at but here in britain it is yeah and you look at the worldwide figures fastest growing religion by miles
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including in places unlike the places like china and the far east and africa. huge growth and so it's the fastest growing religion if that but of course the real parochial view is god is not interested in the numbers game and just as what statistic it's not a bogus statistic even if the gallup poll was because what is a christian and what are people saying? well i don't i'm a christian when a mother has cancer or something, a christian when a mother has cancer or something , they start cancer or something, they start to pray, you know. and so it's a very, very questionable exercise altogether. but above god is bigger . the statistics altogether. but above god is bigger. the statistics and the christian is bigger than england. so i take this i'm underwhelmed by the gallup poll. okay as a final question, just to summarise about 30 seconds, if you can , what can the church if you can, what can the church of england do to turn this around and to be the for people that do need the christian faith, that need to find christ, what, number one, the church should be the anyone thinking in
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the faintest of seeking god calling for god's comfort and. that, of course, goes far wider than. tending services , though than. tending services, though that may be it goes far wider than. that may be it goes far wider than . some of the familiar than. some of the familiar measurements , how many people measurements, how many people are getting confirmed that kind of thing to be there for people in need. great advice. thank you so that was the reverend jonathan aiken , anglican priest jonathan aiken, anglican priest and former conservative. thank you for your time today. and former conservative. thank you for your time today . you you for your time today. you know, i'd like to wrap up with colleagues and of course, this is the second sunday in advent . is the second sunday in advent. blessed lord who has caused all holy to be written for all learning grants that we may in such ways hear them read , mark, such ways hear them read, mark, learn and digest them that by patience and comfort of thy holy word we may embrace and ever hold fast the blessed hope, everlasting life which hast given us in our saviour christ,
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northeast. it'll be a cloudy end to the day across midlands, some showers likely, but they will be intermittent and mostly light . intermittent and mostly light. it'll be a different story in the northeast. the showers will be frequent and heavy at times. the showers could fall as sleet or snow over higher ground . or snow over higher ground. western parts scotland will stay mostly dry with clear skies, meaning it will be cold. further east, we expect more cloud and wintry showers this evening and overnight . meanwhile northern overnight. meanwhile northern ireland, we can expect some mainly towards northern and western parts with some clear spells in between , but perhaps spells in between, but perhaps not as chilly as last night. showers continue to feed in from the northeast overnight with chillier and clearer weather in the west. and that's how the weather's shaping overnight into tomorrow morning . join me every tomorrow morning. join me every sunday at p m for gloria meets . sunday at p m for gloria meets. in exclusive interviews , i'll be in exclusive interviews, i'll be finding out who are politicians
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