on mark dolan tonight eight. in my big opinion, the plot to reverse brexit is in full swing and the media are at the helm. we've come this far, folks. our freedom and sovereignty must be preserved at all costs. and i say that as a remainer. my mark meets guest is the highly respected exeter tory mp, said gerald howarth . we'll be talking gerald howarth. we'll be talking brexit. emma grayson. the economy and his lifelong admiration for the armed forces in the big question could

smaller parties like reform uk and richard tice decide the outcome of the next election? we'll debate that with ann widdecombe and vince cable and in the news agenda with my brilliant panel. should the army step in to prevent strike chaos? is going to the toilet a human right? and how long should an engagement be before getting married? lots to get through . married? lots to get through. i'll see you after the headlines with rae addison . thanks, mark. with rae addison. thanks, mark. here's the latest from the gb newsroom. england have beaten senegal three nil in their world cup knockout game in qatar and booked themselves a place in the quarter finals. booked themselves a place in the quarter finals . jordan henderson quarter finals. jordan henderson scored the first goal in the 38th minute with an assist from jude bellingham. captain harry kane made it two nil just before half time. it was his first goal of the tournament and bukayo saka got the third in the 57th minute. victory means gareth

southgate's men move into the last eight and will take on france on saturday. the rmt union has rejected an 8% pay offer aimed at preventing further strikes this month. the rail delivery group had also offered to guarantee there'd be no compulsory redundancy season before april 20, 24. however, the uk's biggest rail workers union said the deal wouldn't have protected its members working conditions and would lead to unsafe practises as the health secretary is being urged to stop grandstanding and make a deal with unions ahead of nhs strikes this month. the call by former health secretary steven dorrell comes as military personnel prepare to cover striking public sector workers. around 2000 troops, civil servants and other government volunteers are being trained to help limit disruption during the festive period . the head of the festive period. the head of the police watchdog has been forced to resign over an historical allegation. it's now emerged

that michael lockwood, who has been the director general of the independent office for police conduct since 2018, is facing a criminal investigation . the home criminal investigation. the home secretary suella braverman , says secretary suella braverman, says she told him to quit or face immediate suspension after learning about that probe . when learning about that probe. when he announced his resignation on friday, he said it was for personal and domestic reasons and preparations are well underway now for king charles's coronation, which takes place in just 150 days. the st edward's crown has now been removed from the tower of london to be restored . its relocation was restored. its relocation was kept secret until it was safe . kept secret until it was safe. fleet delivered the ceremony on may the sixth is expected to be much smaller than the queen's coronation . around 2000 guests coronation. around 2000 guests expected for that instead of 8000 on tv , online and on dab 8000 on tv, online and on dab radio . this is gb news. the radio. this is gb news. the people's channel. back now to mark dolan .

mark dolan. my mark dolan. my thanks to ray addison , who my thanks to ray addison, who returns in an hour's time . returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. my welcome to mark dolan tonight. my big opinion monologue in just a moment. there are powerful forces at work to reverse brexit. they must not prevail. we haven't come this far to give up our sovereignty now . my mark up our sovereignty now. my mark mates guest is the highly respected ex—tory mp said gerald howarth , a brilliant character howarth, a brilliant character and we'll be talking brexit, immigration , the economy and his immigration, the economy and his lifelong admiration for the armed forces in the big question could smaller parties like reform uk and richard tice, the handsome devil that he is, decide the outcome of the next election ? we'll debate that with election? we'll debate that with two good friends of mine and widdecombe and vince cable in

the news agenda with my excellent panel. should the army step in to prevent strike chaos after a school bans trips to the baths during lessons? is going to the loo. a human rights . and to the loo. a human rights. and how long should an engaged ment be before getting married ? be before getting married? reacting to those stories and many more . all my brilliant many more. all my brilliant panel of former gurkha and bestselling author and adventurer adrian hayes , writer adventurer adrian hayes, writer and agony aunt hilary freeman and agony aunt hilary freeman and broadcaster and journalist linda jubilee . now i want to linda jubilee. now i want to hear from you throughout the show, mark@gbnews.uk the best bit of my show is when you get in touch on this programme has a golden rule. do you want to know what that rule is? sebastian are you ready? is he awake? is he in the pub ? in that case , we don't the pub? in that case, we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so for the next 2 hours, big debates, big guests and always big opinions.

hopefully sebastian at some point will turn up. let's get started . now, i may be point will turn up. let's get started. now, i may be imagining this, but it's almost like they want to reverse brexit . even as want to reverse brexit. even as a remainer, i can't help but nofice a remainer, i can't help but notice the likes of the beeb. it and sky as well as most of fleet street's doleful reporting on labour shortages , inflation and labour shortages, inflation and supply chain issues convene entirely ignoring the pandemic. global inflation pressures and energy crisis and ukraine. the narrative across much of the media is that brexit is failing. this is feeding through into polls suggesting that a majority now believe it hasn't worked out with buyer's remorse , even among with buyer's remorse, even among some brexit support powers. brexit regrets surely hasn't

been helped by headlines like these from across the media. how about the guardian? the reality of brexit is biting hard . brexit of brexit is biting hard. brexit has fuelled a surge in uk food pnces. has fuelled a surge in uk food prices . really, brexit done this prices. really, brexit done this . brexit has made britain the sick man of europe again . sick man of europe again. screamed the guardian . how about screamed the guardian. how about this? brexit has worsened the shortage of nhs doctors. brexit brexit. brexit. how about the independent? wait for this folks . brexit fears for toys , safety . brexit fears for toys, safety exposure to asbestos and work accidents all because of eu laws and a bonfire . even the bbc have and a bonfire. even the bbc have been at it. brexit progress is on trade deals slower than promised. and last but not least, the financial times. brexit on the economy. the hit has been substantially negative . and how about this? corker keir starmer must plot a bold

route back to europe for britain . there they are, hiding in plain sight. they want us back in. of course , all of this is in. of course, all of this is bunkum. but why let a headline and a politico agenda get in the way of the truth? there is , of way of the truth? there is, of course, a short to medium term economic impact from brexit. no one is denying that it's a huge change to our country. it's a bumpy transition . but when it's bumpy transition. but when it's done, it's done . and there are done, it's done. and there are plenty of commentators out there who believe that most of the pain from that transition is now behind us. with the majority of companies already tooled up and prepared for a new way of doing business, in spite of these endeavours of all headwinds, the reality is that brexit has been an instant success . it saw an an instant success. it saw an immediate end to the payment of £2 billion a month to brussels over two decades. that's the

entire cost of the pandemic. happy days. it's been an instant insurance policy against being a member of the united states of europe , a country which, take my europe, a country which, take my word for it, is coming . brexit word for it, is coming. brexit has been an instant insurance policy against being part of a single european army. now why would we seek to avoid that? well, look at the eu's disastrous, hesitant and obstructive approach to the ukraine invasion, with the likes of germany keeping their foot on the brakes due to their reliance on russian gas. for too long, berlin appeased moscow . brexit berlin appeased moscow. brexit has been an instant insurance policy against having the euro . policy against having the euro. a one size fits all currency , a one size fits all currency, which would have been against the british national interest, not being able to set our own interest rates. for example . interest rates. for example. brexit has been an instant success in relation to the

control of our borders, notwithstanding the current challenges in the channel we now decide who enters the country and with net migration at half a million. yet last year, which is wildly unsustainable of course. well, that figure would be even higher if we weren't out of the bloc . by the way, if britain is bloc. by the way, if britain is such an intolerant, hateful country. why did half a million people choose to make their lives here in one calendar year? a population the size of liverpool. i'm so confused . liverpool. i'm so confused. brexit was an instant success for trade deals , for the vaccine for trade deals, for the vaccine rollouts , and it's an insurance rollouts, and it's an insurance policy against a devastating sovereign debt crisis on the continent , which sovereign debt crisis on the continent, which many predict is coming . brexit has been coming. brexit has been a success in relation to everything the public voted for. control of our laws, our borders, our money and our trades. and what about the economy? look at the most recent gdp figures that we've got. as

pointed out by lord frost, of course, the hero of brexit . course, the hero of brexit. writing in the telegraph recently . these are the figures recently. these are the figures from the oecd just two weeks ago covering the period from when brexit officially kicked in economically , which was the end economically, which was the end of 2020. since then, britain has grown faster than germany, france, italy , spain or the france, italy, spain or the eurozone. overall as lord frost, drily points out, you won't hear that on the bbc . the remainers that on the bbc. the remainers are regrew pain. we've even got one at number 11 in the form of china. admiring jeremy hunt, who insiders tell me is behind the switzerland eu alignment story. the campaign to rejoin will ramp up in the months and years ahead. it will start with the snake oil language of frictionless trade and realignments. partnerships and agreements and all the rest of it . the media and the political

it. the media and the political establishment are seeking to reverse brexit little by little , day by day , salami slicing our , day by day, salami slicing our sovereignty . it is death by a sovereignty. it is death by a thousand cuts. brexit brings with it huge challenges. the northern ireland protocol, which divides our country down the middle. it's got to go and trade must be made easier, especially for smaller businesses who are struggling. and i want skilled, talented europeans still coming to this country and making their lives here . but in the end, when lives here. but in the end, when the politics of all of this has washed away, and if brexit is given a chance, it will work . given a chance, it will work. after all, we buy more from the eu than we sell to them . this eu than we sell to them. this insuperable truth ultimately gives us the upper hand. the eu arguably need to make a success of brexit more than we do as failure to do so will hurt them more. brexit is working already and like a fine wine it will

improve with age . we've been out improve with age. we've been out for 10 minutes. give it ten years and we'll be laughing . years and we'll be laughing. ignore the prophets of doom and the highly politicised commentators who will stop at nothing to reverse its if we stick with brexit, if we commit to it, we will make it a success and i voted remain in 2016, but i accept the result and i chose to embrace it. so i hope i speak with some authority. what we must avoid is sleepwalking back into the bosom of brussels. brexit got its knockers, but it would be a boob to go back . in. would be a boob to go back. in. the what's your view? mark at gb news dot uk. i'll get to your emails shortly, but joining me to react to my big opinion and all of the big stories from the

day's news, let's speak to adventurer, author and coach adrian hayes , writer and agony adrian hayes, writer and agony aunt hilary freeman and journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee . linda, this journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee. linda, this is of journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee . linda, this is of the jubilee. linda, this is of the salami slicing of our sovereignty and we must not yield to these siren voices of return or remain. well, you , return or remain. well, you, mark, i voted to remain in 2016, but actually it's a democratic vote. we have to accept and we have to move on. i have noticed like you as well, that there are commentators in the media suggesting that it might be a goodidea suggesting that it might be a good idea to somehow reverse that decision. but the fact of the matter is, it's just not going to be possible to do that any time soon. even if we did want to go back and we did get momentum behind that decision, it probably take a it would probably take a generation it. a bit generation to do it. it's a bit like turning around an ocean going line. williams centre and that's when a goes that's called when a ship goes back on its own axis. it takes a long, long time to achieve. i listen on a daily basis to a

very well known broadcaster. mid—morning on a radio channel, very talented broadcaster on a daily basis. he talks about reversing on brexit. the fact of the matter is , it doesn't matter the matter is, it doesn't matter what journalists say, doesn't matter what view they take. it's technically very, very difficult to do that. and quite frankly, we are committed to this path . we are committed to this path. and now that that decision has been made . i, for one, would been made. i, for one, would like to stick to it. well, yes. and linda, you as and linda, like you as a remainer, logic to me is remainer, the logic to me is that you are to do brexit properly or not at all. you go hard or you go home, because if you have the full fat brexit, which is more or less what, we've got one team sorted out that northern ireland protocol. and have a customs union, and if you have a customs union, you lose the trade deals. if you have the single market, you've got free movement. i don't know how you can accept more than half a million people coming into country, which the into the country, which is the figure year after figure from last year after brexit. so we either do brexit properly or not at all. that's very true. i think one thing

that would have solved the situation slightly i've situation slightly and i've heard say this we heard vince cable say this we should had a super should actually have had a super majority the referendum majority t where the referendum vote was concerned. that would have made our lives much, much easier going forward. but now that has been made, that the decision has been made, as you say, and as i said, we just have to press ahead with it. are lots advantages it. there are lots of advantages to i think now the to it. and i think now the actually immigration where the eu is concerned is in negative territory. and after all, that is one reason why people did vote to brexit. that's to get control of our borders and in some respects, it has been true . we have achieved something , . we have achieved something, things. but other things will take many years to actually get over the line. and we just have to accept that this is a hard thing. wasn't it president kennedy, who once said that we're not doing it because it's easy, we're because easy, we're doing it because it's now, may have been it's hard. now, he may have been talking about the moon landings, but brexit quite but actually brexit is quite a big not as big as big deal. it's not as big as a moon landing. perhaps but you have to commit down path. have to commit down a path. that's what should be doing. that's what we should be doing. hilary is a week

hilary freeman this is a week judging brexit after two years and at the tail end of a pandemic. well first of all, i'm not really sure what you mean by judging brexit because the all the headlines that you showed before were from papers who always supported remain and still support remain. so it's not really that much of a surprise that the guardian doesn't think brexit worked very well because it didn't want brexit. so i think if you had headunesin brexit. so i think if you had headlines in the daily mail saying brexit is a disaster, that would sort of with that would be some sort of with genden that would be some sort of with gender. but actually it's just people you people who believe something you continue believe it. and continue to believe it. and i think that's valid and that's think that's as valid and that's fair. just because you fair. and just because you because we have a democracy doesn't mean that we have to accept something . you know, we accept something. you know, we have a tory government, doesn't mean labour has mean that the labour party has to and stop campaigning to sit down and stop campaigning until the next election. people carry on wanting what they want and believing and supporting what they want to happen. so democracy means a constant discussion and i believe i think that's a media agenda. and i do really worry about this kind of

anti madness, anti mainstream . anti madness, anti mainstream. media narrative that there is i think i think it's dangerous because it's pitting the common man against the media and media. you know, it's encouraging conspiracy theories. and i really don't believe working in the mainstream media that it is like that. well i think you raise a lot of fair points, hilary. my boss always says we are mainstream media, too. yes. and i do agree with you, and i certainly don't like this idea of enemy of the people and all of enemy of the people and all of that sort of rhetoric. so you raise a fair point and i'll grant you that. adrian hayes, what's your view ? yeah, well, what's your view? yeah, well, firstly, just take hillary's point. think is an point. i do think there is an agenda. think journalism, agenda. i think journalism, mainstream media, most the media is campaign journalism. the is on campaign journalism. the absence the hunter biden absence of the hunter biden laptop story in the media in the last few days is astonishing. but i said but government to brexit. i said to i agree with a lot of what you say, mark. not all, but i said a few weeks ago on the show that let's be honest and a lot of gb news viewers will be will

be brexit supporters. but let's be brexit supporters. but let's be there were be actually open this there were benefits staying in eu benefits in staying in the eu probably would and there probably would trade and there were leaving were benefits in leaving independent trade deals, sovereignty, controlling your borders . what i said a few weeks borders. what i said a few weeks ago, it again now, ago, and i'll say it again now, though was little point though there was little point in forsaking the benefits of staying in. if you don't maximise the benefits of leaving. and i don't think when you look at net migration , you look at net migration, 500,000 per year, when you look at sovereignty , there's still at sovereignty, there's still 8000 eu laws that were subject to a penalty and trade deals . we to a penalty and trade deals. we haven't really leverage that you say. well we're not really maximise the benefits and this is why i think the media are probably pouncing on this. so looking at the negative side, but i do agree the markets but to me i do agree the markets , it, you've got , if you're doing it, you've got to it full, full bore . and i to do it full, full bore. and i said, by the way, i just so your views are where i took those two things and i took the view that brexit, the advantages of leaving were higher than the advantages i've advantages of staying. i've already brexit. however, unless we benefits is we maximise those benefits is pointless. so i want to see

politicians with some courage , politicians with some courage, which is one thing i think we can all agree on. the politicians today in power are complete cowards. we need to leave the ecj if we're ever going our borders. we going to control our borders. we need to take back sovereignty so we control our own laws. we can control our own laws. and we can control our own laws. and we need to strike independent trade brilliant panel trade deals. my brilliant panel returned shortly to debate whether the military should be used to tackle strike chaos , used to tackle strike chaos, chaos in what looks to be a winter of discontent , chaos in what looks to be a winter of discontent, a big sam allardyce, life before ten. talking about england's wonderful victory . it's coming wonderful victory. it's coming home. but next, vince cable and ann widdecombe . how the smaller ann widdecombe. how the smaller parties could decide the result of the next general election. isn't sam's jumper gorgeous? see you .

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big opinion monologue . there are big opinion monologue. there are dark forces out there trying to reverse brexit that was the topic of my big opinion. reverse brexit that was the topic of my big opinion . the topic of my big opinion. the emails are coming in thick and fast. mark gbnews.uk. how about this from derek? mark. great show on brexit. it would be helpful to have a government that believed in any thing. matt says. hi, mark hunt and conor need to get on and remove all of the red tape. that's what brexit was supposed to do and has not delivered. next dyson factory should be built here, not in singapore. wayne evening mark. we the public know the politician is are trying to thwart brexit. there are a handful of them. but the bigger problem is the civil service. as they are constant and in the main, these are the ones we need to deal with. well, look, thank you for those emails. keep them coming. market gb news. don't uk. it's time now for this. yes,

it's uk. it's time now for this. yes, wsfime uk. it's time now for this. yes, it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the day tonight with the lib dems staging something of a political comeback. and with the growing popularity of smaller parties like richard tice's, reform uk and the likes of ukip potential lead diluting the votes of both the tories and labourin the votes of both the tories and labour in the midlands and the north of england. could smaller parties decide the outcome of the next general election ? to the next general election? to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome former business secretary under the coalition government and lib dem leader sir vince cable and former government minister ex brexit party mep and television personality and best selling author ann widdecombe . let me author ann widdecombe. let me start with you and do you think the likes of richard tice could have an influence in the outcome of the next national poll ? oh, of the next national poll? oh, yes. i think the emphasis there is on influence . what we do know

is on influence. what we do know is on influence. what we do know is that in general elections, small parties just do not perform well because everybody is focussed on what the two big parties are doing and they're focussed not so much on which one of those they want, but on which one of those they don't want. and they fear that if they give their vote to a small party and saw this evening with the and we saw this evening with the mighty the 1980s, once it mighty sdp in the 1980s, once it comes to a general election, people don't to risk a vote people don't want to risk a vote for a small in case the for a small party in case the wrong big party gets but wrong big party gets in. but your word was influence . and your word was influence. and there, i think all you have to do is look at what the brexit party did in 2019, when we absolutely swept the board at the european elections and said we were going to field candidates in every seat, managed to thoroughly put the wind up the conservative party so that theresa may had to go . so that theresa may had to go. bofis so that theresa may had to go. boris came in pledging he would get brexit done and the general

election was fought on that. now that only happened because sufficient pressure was put on the conservatives to know that if they did not get brexit done , then they were actually going to lose support from their own members. so influence, yes , make members. so influence, yes, make any impact electorally . now, any impact electorally. now, could this rivalry from smaller right wing parties backfire and hand the keys of number ten? and to keir starmer , particularly in to keir starmer, particularly in those red walls seats? well i think, as i say, a general election , people aren't going to election, people aren't going to vote for the smaller parties because they left or right or anything else. they're going to make choice between the two make a choice between the two big parties. but we've got to use if all that and in the course of two years, we've course of that two years, we've got election, we've got got local election, we've got county elections, got all county elections, we've got all manner electoral tests. and manner of electoral tests. and if the little parties start doing extreme well in those that, as i say , is what that, as i say, is what influences the big parties to

start taking seriously public opinion, which they don't. i mean, when they're in their and particularly when you've got a party with an enormous majority , it doesn't have to listen to pubuc , it doesn't have to listen to public opinion unless the public speaks so loudly that it begins to take notice. and that's what we've got to do. sir vince cable in 2010, your party, the liberal democrats, had significant influence in the outcome of the general election. it took a couple of days of negotiation between nick clegg and david cameron, but in the end the lib dems were kingmakers in a hung parliament. well, it could happen again . as i said, under happen again. as i said, under our current system, the first past the post system, it's actually rather difficult for third parties. but that mine is very well organised at a grassroots level and parts of the country. i think the recent polls are suggesting that we could get around 30 seats. it

may be a few more, a few less, but that order of magnitude and that may prove to be a crucial number. but you also have to take into account the nationalist , particularly in nationalist, particularly in scotland , probably around 50 scotland, probably around 50 seats. so when you about little parties, we're talking about people in rather different situation . and this the scottish situation. and this the scottish nationalists as in many parts of england . and then you have ukip england. and then you have ukip or whatever version of ukip is going to stand , which probably going to stand, which probably won't win seats as suggested . won't win seats as suggested. that can significantly affect the outcome . indeed. so i mean, the outcome. indeed. so i mean, this is this is the huge issue in terms of the future . vince in terms of the future. vince cable, you told gloria de piero on her programme, gloria meets, which aired earlier today , that which aired earlier today, that the price of support from the lib dems in a hung parliament would be progress on the passing of proportional representation

in this country as a as our electoral system , i'm sure it electoral system, i'm sure it would be . i mean, we, we didn't would be. i mean, we, we didn't push this very aggressively in 2010. we got a rather weak standing to have a referendum , a standing to have a referendum, a modest change in the system , modest change in the system, subject to a referendum. it wasn't a very good outcome. i think this time round, if we were in that position again, it would be to have very electoral reform. the labour party's already agreed in principle to do this without a referee on them. it would be in the manifesto and i think it would depend , you know, whether they depend, you know, whether they whether they need us sufficiently to make that kind of concession. but i think there's a good possible unity. but that first time for many, many years , this could be on the many years, this could be on the agenda if you remember, tony blair was going to do this , but blair was going to do this, but he had such an enormous majority, he didn't felt it was necessary. and so we got another constitutional changes, but not this. but next time around, it

may well happen. the likes and of nigel farage of this parish have spoken quite warmly about proportion of representation. it would be good news for those on the right , such as yourself, who the right, such as yourself, who feel politically homeless . no, feel politically homeless. no, it wouldn't. it would be appalling use if you have proper proportional representation , proportional representation, then you're very unlikely to ever to have an outcry . ever to have an outcry. conservative government again . conservative government again. very unlikely. what you get with proportional representation is generally the outcome is a coalition you get coalitions. now one of the litmus tests of democracy and by the way, the reason i haven't joined the reform party and never did is precisely because of this issue it believes in represent proportional representation and i didn't. but i what i was saying was a litmus test of democracy is whether you can dismiss an unsatisfactory government on a convincing

scale. and that is what happened to labour in 79, to the tories in 97, the public said , enough, in 97, the public said, enough, you try doing that with proportional represent station. and the other thing and it's a subsidiary issue but nevertheless it's there. it's that i believe very strongly one member, one seat. so there's no doubt at all about who represents a constituency when there's a big problem , you're there's a big problem, you're shaking your head servants . yes, shaking your head servants. yes, there are models of electoral reform . deal with both of arms reform. deal with both of arms concerns, something like the german system , which has a german system, which has a constituency base , but with constituency base, but with additional members , still has, additional members, still has, you know, local members of parliament. and it's also changes of government. we had one a few months ago and the christian democrats left office and the social democrats and their coalition partners came in. so you can have renewal through that system. the same happensin through that system. the same happens in ireland, which is a

much more proportional system there. there are good models and that's good models. and when where tony blair starts and the investigation on the roy jenkins as to what would be the optimal system in the uk , we opted for system in the uk, we opted for something a bit like the german or possibly the scottish system, which does allow for change and does have local representation . does have local representation. i guess we just the line to anne, but we'll get it back and what do you feel about the progress of the lib dems at the moment events do you think that they will be a force to be reckoned with in two years time 7 reckoned with in two years time ? i think so , yes, we've had ? i think so, yes, we've had very good progress in elections and i think more important in building up the local government base, which used to be extremely strong and they're certainly now recovered in what you could call tory facing areas less so in the labour run big cities which were used to run, you know, the new council, sheffield, liverpool and the rest of them now the

base district growing. there is a very professional targeting of resources to seats that we can win with the help of tactical voting. and i think we will come back as a much stronger force. i would like to say a stronger national message isn't clear at the moment, particularly support for europe now so different from you. but that's how i would like us to be positioned and probably highlighting one or two key areas like additional tax rates , revenue for education. so with a couple of big national teams of that kind, we would be in a much stronger position briefly. and the clocks against us, i don't want to get in trouble with holly. there is a concern for conservatives at the next election that the red wall goes back to labour and that chunks of the blue wall go to the lib dems . as i say, there are two dems. as i say, there are two years to go. but what i would say to vince cable is, is yes,

please, please run in the general action on the basis of back into europe. please do not guarantee you won't get anywhere at all. please do. please i do love you to do that . there we love you to do that. there we are, vince cable challenges that position . he's not talking about position. he's not talking about reversing brexit , although many reversing brexit, although many might not like the language deployed. the thing about that we all will look back to what he's talking about, we all will look back to what he's talking about , the mining he's talking about, the mining brexit. that's what he pursued. rejoining is an issue for a decade ahead. it's not on the agenda. decade ahead. it's not on the agenda . okay decades ahead but agenda. okay decades ahead but still on the cards it's so it's all kicked off between two political legends. my thanks to and we to come and see vince cable brilliant have both of you on the show we asked you on twitter could smaller parties decide the next election ? almost decide the next election? almost 70% said yes. 30.4% said no. lots more to come. it is coming home so big . sam allardyce home so big. sam allardyce before ten. celebra rating england's victory against senegal. and what do you think about the military being used to

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welcome back to mark dolan tonight my mark mates guest is the legendary former tory mp gerald howarth . what gerald howarth. what a character. he's live in the studio and by the way, it's coming home. it's coming home. congratulations to england and we'll speak to former england manager big sam allardyce before ten. and let me tell you , he's ten. and let me tell you, he's modelling a christmas jumper. we'll find out more shortly as to why. reacting to the big stories of the day, we've got my all star panel of adventurer, author, author and adrian hayes , writer and agony aunt hilary freeman and journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee. now the government is considering deploying the army to help ease possible strike disruption over christmas. the government has

said that military personnel, civil servants and volunteers are being trained to support a range of services , including range of services, including border force at airports and ports, amid fears of christmas chaos. there's also talk of the military going into hospitals as well. the statement from number ten said the decision on whether troops would be deployed was yet to be taken, but the personnel are part of the range of options available should strike action in these go ahead as planned. so is using the army the best way to prevent a winter of discontent or a step too far in terms of the remit of our armed forces ? well, who better to ask forces? well, who better to ask than ex gurkha military hero? know i've been called that because you're modest. adrian. hey, what do you think ? so is hey, what do you think? so is this a step too far for the men? thanks. thanks, man. i i thanks. thanks, man. i mean, i left the army back in the korean war, but look , i've always taken war, but look, i've always taken the view that military , the view that the military, highly people, we can do highly skilled people, we can do anything can do, anything and the troops can do, and do it with great and they'll do it with the great vigour, the great complete

efficiency that we require. the only caution i've got is the military and all around are navy and army is one of the few institution that has that public respect. still in fact, probably the only institution we have in the only institution we have in the uk and you don't want to be doing anything that undermines that. if it goes if the public starts to turn against the military, i think that you're on a slightly dodgy ground. the second issue, of course, that second issue, of course, is that politicians, successive politicians, successive politicians , all parties have politicians, all parties have cut a sorry, have sent our troops into wars . our wars there troops into wars. our wars there was there. and yet we keep reducing the numbers to two does not match . you either do it. you not match. you either do it. you either the military and you either cut the military and you just stop these wars and just stop all these wars and foreign or you have foreign prices, or you have to boost the numbers up. and i don't see. so we need to boost it how do you how do you it up. how do you how do you those the military those working in the military feel about being deployed in a civilian setting? they are civilian setting? are they are they my colleagues? they okay with my colleagues? i know. okay with as know. are okay with it, as i said, providing they're not doing feels like doing something that feels like it's against the public. and i don't think perhaps these places

will could they be insulted if they're cleaning bedpans they're sort of cleaning bedpans in hospital ward? they'll do in a hospital ward? they'll do what ordered to do and what they're ordered to do and they'll do it with, as i say, they'll do it with, as i say, the service intelligence that military linda, military people do. linda, you're nodding your head. yeah, absolutely. enough absolutely. i'm i'm old enough to remember last time the to remember the last time the army did intervene when there were action. do you remember the green goddesses that went in with fire services ? and with the fire services? and so they've it before . it's they've done it before. it's happened and at end of happened before. and at end of the day, we're talking about essential workers that are going to strike and whatever you to go on strike and whatever you feel rights and wrongs feel about the rights and wrongs of the going on strike, you cannot have a no safety net. you cannot have a no safety net. you cannot plan b and the cannot have no plan b and the only organisations that can possibly provide that safety net are armed forces . and i are the armed forces. and i think if they have to do it, they'll be brilliant. you've heard john healey, the shadow defence is defence secretary, said this is not idea because as not a good idea because as adrian saying, numbers are adrian was saying, numbers are very, in the army. now very, very low in the army. now they're lowest been they're the lowest they've been for but at for hundreds of years. but at the of the john healey the end of the day, john healey is party political is scoring party political points. i feel he doesn't have a background in them in the

military. does and military. ben wallace does and he seems happy with this is a possible plan b? yeah. how do you will down with you think this will go down with the you're sort of the public if you're sort of walking down the street and you see soldiers outside hospital. see soldiers outside a hospital. yeah. me feel very yeah. i mean, i it me feel very uncomfortable, you know, i don't know if i want to see soldiers outside the hospital. i don't want you know, i local soldiers being my postman . soldiers in in being my postman. soldiers in in areas where you need security. that's one thing. but, you know , there's a kind of a fine line between having the army on the streets, helping out and the army on the street, kind of keeping us all in line and feeling a bit like we're living in a kind of under martial law or something. but we were using the covid pandemic military. yeah. mean, a yeah. i mean, there is a perception, isn't there, of, of those the military it's those in the military that it's just having rifle and just about having a rifle and killing whereas it's a killing people, whereas it's a very skill base. the very broad skill base. the military have . you know, linda, military have. you know, linda, remember, mean, we allowed to remember, i mean, we allowed to wear uniform the streets in wear uniform in the streets in the troubles in the northern troubles in that era. it's encouraged. era. but now it's encouraged. and military far more and we see military far more than do uniforms, far more

than we do uniforms, far more than we do uniforms, far more than we do uniforms, far more than we used to. i know some of the finest medics in this country are in the army, and that's a good point . i but but that's a good point. i but but however, hillary, i wonder are there any politics to this is it about the optics? is this the government's of saying, sod government's way of saying, sod you, put the army? well, you, we're put the army? well, yes. and, you know, the problem is, underneath of is, you know, underneath all of this , we've got a shortage of this, we've got a shortage of doctors and nurses before they strike. we've got a shortage of soldiers . we've got everybody soldiers. we've got everybody striking all at the same time. you know, the government is losing control of the whole pubuc losing control of the whole public sector that is the public sector and that is the issue, right. we will issue, too, right. we will return this. don't forget, return to this. don't forget, we've papers live and we've got the papers live and uninterrupted exactly 1030. uninterrupted at exactly 1030. you set your watch to it. you can set your watch to it. but england beaten senegal and we will speak to the former england manager, big sam allardyce

r , next. wonderful news. it's coming home. it's coming home. england has beaten senegal a three nil win . they have smashed them . win. they have smashed them. they will be playing france in the quarter finals. i they will be playing france in the quarterfinals. i don't they will be playing france in the quarter finals. i don't want to jinx it, but it could be coming home. let me take you up to date with some developing stories, though. reports say that one of the england players, raheem sterling, has left the england world cup squad in qatar . after a break in that occurred at his home in london whilst his family were actually at home also , the fa revealed that ben also, the fa revealed that ben white's left the england world cup camp early and he didn't get to play for a single second at the tournament. so two stories there, of course, are our best wishes . go out to raheem wishes. go out to raheem sterling and his family for what looks to be a very upsetting situation . let's get the views situation. let's get the views now to this wonderful news of england. reach the quarterfinals, one of the best and most successful managers of

his generation, big sam allardyce. hi, sam . sam, great allardyce. hi, sam. sam, great to have you on the show again, a resounding victory , a big vote resounding victory, a big vote of confidence in this team . oh, of confidence in this team. oh, absolutely . apart from the first absolutely. apart from the first 35 minutes where we ran out to rely on that, jordan pickford to keep us in the game and not go go a goal down with some fantastic saves. i think that england then took control, particularly when the first goal went in and i'm really impressed with the quality. again of england's goals tonight. the three goals were a lot like the first game against iran quality a football quick , precise a football quick, precise football going through the lines as quickly as possible and some excellent finishing at the end of all that. so it was a very comfortable victory in the end . comfortable victory in the end. and of course, like i said , we and of course, like i said, we needed mr. pickford to begin with and then after that it was easy pickings. we senegal of course, nothing's ever easy, but

it it looked easy tonight in the end. what are your thoughts about the next round ? but my about the next round? but my thoughts about the next round beat france you win the world cup . i think beat france you win the world cup. i think it beat france you win the world cup . i think it gives england cup. i think it gives england that much confidence. i watch friends today and this will be their toughest test and got us toughest test, i think since he's been manager of the england team because they were very, very comfortable and of course mbappe particularly is we have some really players , but this some really players, but this lot is right up there with the very, very best. so we need to pay very, very best. so we need to pay special attention to him and of course is euro was the leading goalscorer in france at international level in box we need to take care of him so defensive play will be tested more than ever before, but certainly france will have a lot to worry about with the form of our friend play at the moment, which is the more talented team england france . wow. that's england or france. wow. that's a very , very good question. i've

very, very good question. i've always said that england have the most talented squad , and i the most talented squad, and i think that's certain from my point of view. and i think at this moment in time they've got rights up there, along with france. and of course, we still can't rule out brazil and argentina yet, but certainly we're right up there with those now. well, that's that's certainly got to be a hope. and listen, senegal are not a team without class, without pedigree. sam no, that's all. i mean, most of their players play throughout europe and quite a few in the league, of course. so i might add my own that my old player allen's do fun to me this week saying we're going to do we're going to beat england because he plays in the a bolton better obviously we put to put them to rest pretty easily in the end and with a very comfortable victory the very impressive performance so it's all it's all guns blazing for ozil we rode

the criticism of gareth and the lads and wrote the criticism after , after the usa and are after, after the usa and are beginning to come into a better and better form. and i think the unity of the squad, you know, when you look at the celebration of the goals and how these lads seem to be getting on together, i can help in terms i think that can help in terms of pushing forward mentality of pushing forward the mentality and as far as we and hopefully go as far as we possibly all way to the possibly can all the way to the final . sam, possibly can all the way to the final. sam, managed at final. sam, you've managed at the very highest level, you've delivered for so many clubs, you're used getting teams ready for big games and big finals. you're used getting teams ready for big games and big finals . so for big games and big finals. so how would you be preparing england right now off the back of tonight's performance ? i of tonight's performance? i would be this will be soviet physically. they don't need anything. i think they're the right there, right to that level. recovery time. first and foremost. and then it's straight into tactics . tactically, the into tactics. tactically, the guy to pick the best team to face france that's to make maybe

changes again i think he's starting to the squad brilliantly certainly that proven the right thing to do tonight so i think tactically you'll see a different approach to england and maybe one or two changes. so they need to obviously stop the most dangerous players, friends , dangerous players, friends, french, but also go out all out to try and expose france's weaknesses . and that will be on weaknesses. and that will be on the training ground or in the analysis room , looking at the analysis room, looking at the strengths and weaknesses of france and doing a little bit of practise too, to get together on how they're going to play against them now as you'll have heard in my introduction, big sam , there are reports it's sam, there are reports it's a developing story. the one of the england players, raheem sterling , has left the squad in, qatar. he's left the camp after a break in that occurred at his london home whilst his family, we're told, were at home a very, very worrying situation . of course, worrying situation. of course, i think you'll join me in wishing his family the best handling

that situation . what will that that situation. what will that do to the camp ? and of course, do to the camp? and of course, that would be a nightmare for raheem himself . well, i think raheem himself. well, i think they'll they'll they will all try and get behind him, send messages . i try and get behind him, send messages. i hope he's wishing them well and, his family well, obviously is extremely upsetting because it's only comes round once every four years, the world cup. and for to leave the squad now of course family is the most important and of course things like they seem to be happening on a more regular basis. burglaries with family members in the house is extremely worrying going all across the country at the moment. so i hope they catch whoever did it. but i certainly first and foremost hope that ryan sterling's family is okay . now, hope that ryan sterling's family is okay. now, big sam, you are in very , very fine fettle. in very, very fine fettle. you're still a young man. i'm certain you've got another big job in you if you want to bowl. but in the meantime, you've got a little bit of a side hustle. holly letourneau , would you like holly letourneau, would you like

to add to this rather handsome devil? right. david guernsey , devil? right. david guernsey, the big sam in a big christmas jumper. tell me more . oh well, jumper. tell me more. oh well, that's another which i do for george. the ousted jail , of george. the ousted jail, of course. and i think that for me, it shows you can get some very good gear at a very, very reasonable price for christmas. and that's why i actually did the advert to coincide with the world cup . but the quality of world cup. but the quality of the gear, i'm certain the price is run along with most people's budgets too. and i think that's very important. this would be christmas coming up, so go and get your gear from george. i completely agree . i love me a completely agree. i love me a bit of george at easter. i've got to say other supermarkets and clothing stores are available, but only one of them's got the exclusive services of big sam allardyce, a proven winner. briefly, sam , proven winner. briefly, sam, what would it mean for the country if we could go all the way it would be historic, not

because we've got that. we've got the girls, the women's football team winning the euros and that. and if we can turn that around to the men's, get into the world cup final and actually win it, it will be it will be ground breaking. the best time we've had in football since 66. of course . yeah. t since 66. of course. yeah. t right. big sam are thrilled to have you on the show. always a privilege to enjoy the next game and i hope we get to catch up following another victory against france football. let's look forward to it . thank you. look forward to it. thank you. bye. there you go . and what bye. there you go. and what a great model he is. holly i'll look at that. what? what what a fine of a man. big sam fine figure of a man. big sam allardyce is rocking his george and the sweater. i better be nice about sainsbury's as well. they're very good. marks and spencers. come on next. it's all happening even primark have their moments . at least some their moments. at least some people . this is top man. there people. this is top man. there you go . i think i'm too old for you go. i think i'm too old for top man. but anyway, although i'll let you decide. listen, lots more to come . my guest is lots more to come. my guest is in the studio. tory legend sir

gerald howarth . but next i'll be gerald howarth. but next i'll be deaung gerald howarth. but next i'll be dealing with a bbc who are going to dumbed down their output for working class people. you couldn't make it up. we're back in a couple of minutes.

it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten. in just a moment, i'll be deaung in just a moment, i'll be dealing with the bbc . we're dealing with the bbc. we're going to dumbed down programmes in a bid to attract more viewers. do they think we're stupid ? my mark means guest is stupid? my mark means guest is the highly respected ex—tory mp gerald howarth. what are we talking ? brexit, immigration, talking? brexit, immigration, the economy and his lifelong admiration for the armed forces in the news agenda. with my first class panel is going to the toilet. a human right. this is after pupils at one

particular school have been banned from going to the loo dunng banned from going to the loo during class time. also, how long should engagement be before getting married? does it get to a point? three or four years? gets a bit rude. also following the announcement of indiana jones, five, what is the greatest film franchise of all time ? we wanted to do that on time? we wanted to do that on friday. we're doing it tonight. plus, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030. but after this , exactly 1030. but after this, i'm sorting out the bbc. but first, ray addison . thanks first, ray addison. thanks marcus. the latest from the gb newsroom. england have beaten senegal three nil in their world cup knockout game and cats are blocking themselves a place in the quarter finals. jordan henderson scored the first goal in 38 minutes with an assist from jude bellingham. captain harry kane then made it two nil just before half time . it was just before half time. it was his very first goal of the tournament and bukayo saka got

the third in the 57th minute. victory means gaffes southgate's men move into the last eight and will take on defending champions france on saturday. transport secretary says a decision by the rmt union to reject an 8% pay off offer is disappointing and unfair to the public. the delivery group had offered the pay delivery group had offered the pay rise along with a guarantee of no compulsory redundancies before april 20, 24. however, the uk's biggest rail workers union said the deal wouldn't protect its members and would lead to unsafe practises mark harper says the rmt should put that offer to its members and call off a planned strike . the call off a planned strike. the health secretary is being urged to stop grandstanding and make a deal with unions ahead of nhs strikes this month . the call by strikes this month. the call by former health secretary stephen doyle comes as military personnel prepare to cover striking public sector workers .

striking public sector workers. around 2000 troops, civil servants and other government volunteers being trained to help limit disruption during the festive period . the head of the festive period. the head of the police watchdog has been forced resign over an historic allegation. it's now that michael lockwood, who's then director general of the independent office for police conduct since 2018, is facing a criminal investigation . the home criminal investigation. the home secretary says she told him to quit or face immediate suspension after learning about that probe. when he announced his on friday, he said it was for personal and domestic reasons . preparations are well reasons. preparations are well underway now for king charles's coronation, which takes place in just 150 days. the st edward's crown has now been removed from the tower of london to be resized. it's relocation was kept secret until it was safely delivered. ceremony on may. the safe is expected to be much smaller than the queen's coronation. around 2000 guests

are expected there instead of 8000 on tv online and on dab+ radio. this is gb news. back now to mark dolan tonight. my to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to the brilliant ray addison, who always knows where the back of the net is. it's coming home. it's coming home. yes, folks. england all through to the quarter finals of the world cup. this is not a drill. they're playing france in the next round. big sam allardyce, good friend of the show. thinks they can win. we'll be celebrating this great victory in the course of the next hour with my panel. and it will feature in the papers at exactly 1030 sharp. this is mark dolan tonight. big stories, big guests and always big opinions. my your ten in just a moment. and the bbc who are dumbing down to attract viewers . my response attract viewers. my response is on way in the news agenda

on its way in the news agenda with my panel after school bans. loo visits during lessons is going to the toilets a human rights how long should an engagement be before getting married and following the announcement of indiana jones five. what is the greatest film series of all time ? plaza as series of all time? plaza as i said, we've got tomorrow's papers at 1030 sharp and there are some big political stories in the offing. my guest is the highly respected ex—tory mp said gerald howarth will talk brexit, immigration and the economy and his lifelong admiration for the armed forces . lots to get armed forces. lots to get through, but first let us sort out the bbc . the national state out the bbc. the national state broadcaster, the bbc's is in the news again . it broadcaster, the bbc's is in the news again. it is broadcaster, the bbc's is in the news again . it is seeking to news again. it is seeking to dumbed down its content to accommodate what's being described as a dwindling working class audience . how will they

class audience. how will they this? by commissioning what can only be described as shows for sickos or something they're calling lite dramas. whatever the hell they are. and more competition and sports documentary . do they think we're documentary. do they think we're stupid ? the answer is probably stupid? the answer is probably yes, they do and not withstanding its shameless campaign against brexit during the referendum notwithstanding, it's one note coverage of covid characterised it as the bubonic plague and which supported the narrative that we needed masks and had to lockdown not withstanding its use of eastenders storylines to push the vaccine , notwithstanding its the vaccine, notwithstanding its palpable anti boris narrative . palpable anti boris narrative. since his election in 2019, notwithstanding woke takeover of programmes like doctor who, which has become a finger wagging platform for social propaganda , the bbc is to plumb propaganda, the bbc is to plumb further depths by making cheap

telly for dances or. further depths by making cheap telly for dances or . at least telly for dances or. at least that's how they see them . now. that's how they see them. now. the beeb generates . almost £4 the beeb generates. almost £4 billion a year from the licence fee, which somehow they try frame as good value for money. do me a favour here at we have a seven days a week operation which has a budget which barely keep gary lineker in gold cufflinks . the money that pays cufflinks. the money that pays for this network is loose change that the beeb find down the back of their sofa . now the bbc of their sofa. now the bbc a great legacy and some great progress . i don't want to axe it progress. i don't want to axe it . we have invested in the bbc for years and has produced some of the greatest sporting coverage documentaries. comedies and music programmes that the has ever seen . radio four five has ever seen. radio four five live. much of bbc local radio. great products. love attenborough. love kuenssberg .

attenborough. love kuenssberg. love graham norton. dare i say it? i love bbc, but i don't love its managements . i don't love its managements. i don't love its managements. i don't love its political bias. and i don't love its funding model . no love its funding model. no longer can it be justified to threaten cash strapped pensioners with jail for not forking out 160 quid a year. much of which get splurged on overpaid talents . who wouldn't overpaid talents. who wouldn't get anything like the deal they're on anywhere else ? the they're on anywhere else? the beeb may moved much of their operation salford, which was a good decision , but unfortunately good decision, but unfortunately it hasn't changed the mentality. which is firmly rooted in north london. the can be a great success because it has a great history , but it needs to become history, but it needs to become the british broadcasting corporation again, representing whole of britain. yes it's diverse culture, but it also its diverse culture, but it also its diverse values , diverse diverse values, diverse

politics, its diverse tastes, its opinions . and it will be its opinions. and it will be helpful if its presenters didn't sneer or giggle every time someone appeared in front of the union flag. and it would be helpful if they didn't scrap things like land of hope and glory from last night of the proms, creating the impression that the british broadcasting corporation doesn't actually like britain. the bbc, in my view, must , like britain. the bbc, in my view, must, but it needs to deliver more bang for its buck. ditch the partisan coverage , the ditch the partisan coverage, the virtue signalling and finger wagging and just inform , educate wagging and just inform, educate and entertain . and it could do and entertain. and it could do that , in my and entertain. and it could do that, in my view, on a fraction of the current budgets . i think of the current budgets. i think that the licence fee is no longer fit for purpose . it's got longer fit for purpose. it's got to go. when i recently explained to go. when i recently explained to my teenage son , we all pay to my teenage son, we all pay a special tax to watch the telly. he laughed. he couldn't believe me. so a fairer, more accountable way to pay for the bbc must be found too. at the

moment , the beeb is squirting moment, the beeb is squirting out a warm flow of risk averse patronising, bland, box ticking , uncreative televisual, diarrhoea and it doesn't come cheap. diarrhoea and it doesn't come cheap . right now, the way it's cheap. right now, the way it's going , the corporation that gave going, the corporation that gave us pointless is becoming increasingly pointless itself . increasingly pointless itself. bbc you are the weakest link. goodbye . reacting to that and goodbye. reacting to that and all the big stories of the day is my all star panel adventurer , author and coach adrian hayes , writer and agony aunt hilary freeman , journalist and freeman, journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee. great to have all three of you with me . linda, what do you think about this ? the bbc must stay, but it this? the bbc must stay, but it must . i think this? the bbc must stay, but it must. i think what i find this? the bbc must stay, but it must . i think what i find really must. i think what i find really disturbing about that guardian headuneis disturbing about that guardian headline is that it has to bring in lighter programmes for poorer people. the implication being that poorer people may not have the brainpower to deal with

heavier programmes. now i that there should be some lighter programs at itv . we used to call programs at itv. we used to call them programmes for the early evening viewer. that was code for lighter programmes. there's wrong with that. that's entirely separate argument though. the licence fee, i think, is totally unfair to have a licence fee these days to watch television. where the revenue goes to one broadcaster and only one broadcaster. that's very , very broadcaster. that's very, very unfair. the bbc is an exceptional programme maker and it's got a very strong commercial arm. it be able to exist on its own on its own commercial merits and not charge the licence . that's wrong. i the licence. that's wrong. i don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with doing like to television, but to characterise is doing lots of television for people. well that's being snobbish . i also that's being snobbish. i also think hilary freeman it's an inqu think hilary freeman it's an insult to viewers . i think that

insult to viewers. i think that everybody just wants good telly. yes, absolutely. i mean , i don't yes, absolutely. i mean, i don't on don't get this correlation between poor people , stupid between poor people, stupid people or the working people. stupid people. this is know it doesn't exist. some of the most intelligent people i've ever met have been class and some of the best gp people i've met have to private schools and it's just doesn't make sense. i'm not sure that it's that's the market that they need to get. i think the problem for the bbc is the younger viewers are watching the bbc . the younger viewers are watching the bbc. the younger younger viewers are watching the bbc . the younger viewers are bbc. the younger viewers are watching television any more. and that's going to be the problem in the future. and that's going to be problem with the licence fee. because why are the licence fee. because why are the young people going to pay for licence when? they for a licence fee when? they don't bbc at and don't watch the bbc at all and then everything the then everything on the computers. your computers. hilary, are your parents, aren't you? i am, yeah. how is your offspring? she's how old is your offspring? she's seven. seven. when seven. she's seven. so when she's older. like. like with my son when you explain what the son. when you explain what the licence fee is, she be licence fee is, she she'll be scratching she .

scratching her head when she. quite possibly, yes i mean she's she's not typical because she's the only person who reads the newspaper on the cheap. it's she's a bit of an old seven year old. but what she is she's a little genius, just like her father . by the way, we always father. by the way, we always get a ratings bump when you are on. it's freeman magic, on. it's the freeman magic, folks. don't dumb down. we folks. we don't dumb down. we don't dumb up. folks. we don't dumb down. we don't dumb up . we have a daily don't dumb up. we have a daily meeting with holly. we've missed up with abby with rebekah . up with abby with rebekah. bloody hell, i better not forget anybody. there's a massive list of brilliant people . can't name of brilliant people. can't name all them, and we work bloody all of them, and we work bloody hard to choose the most compelling and interesting and entertaining stories. the entertaining stories. and the stories are stories that we think are important. we get it right. we get it wrong, but we're thinking about audience. and about the whole audience. and that's beeb needs to that's what the beeb needs to do. adrian yeah. i want to tell you a monologue with in two parts, mean firstly bbc parts, mark, i mean firstly bbc news be fair the bbc is news and to be fair the bbc is not just bbc, it's itv at. sky is channel 4 as well. i have a i've had a huge problem with tv news over the decade or so

news over the past decade or so because it's now a part from the campaign. i said earlier about the the lack of the one narrative, the lack of critical we've got . critical thinking. we've got. it's become more about the reporters know there's a story from mongolia and we've from inner mongolia and we've got a reporter and a flak jacket and and, you know, and helmets and, you know, battling taliban battling the taliban and whatever this. and also whatever like this. and also a job in a factory with got job loss in a factory with got to in the living room of and to go in the living room of and jen and we got to have 3 minutes on of what they feel is to be like you know, losing their job. that's great. it's all a bit that's great. but it's all a bit of a dumbed side of things. of a dumbed down side of things. i the news channels. give i want the news channels. give us news. more stories. us the news. many more stories. not five decided stories to not just five decided stories to fill news programme on the fill the news programme on the lie entertainment side, would lie entertainment side, i would agree hilary and linda agree what hilary and linda said. look i've got daughter as well. she never watched the bbc and bbc have got and i think the bbc have got come that to recognise the come to that to recognise the changing in. changing times we're in. children, kids and even adults. we don't watch light entertainment. now what i watched bbc for sport watched the bbc for sport documentaries and not the news, but that's perhaps they want us to just concentrate on those things. maybe get rid of bbc two

and just have one channel as a news and documentary sport channel. i certainly don't want to axe the bbc. like i said, we actually are all shareholders in the beeb. we've invested in it. it's got a great heritage, a great pedigree and i want it to do well because i like rivalry, i like a challenge bring it on gb news the beeb, the ultimate battle , the underdog versus , the battle, the underdog versus, the goliath. and look, we're making strides, all thanks to you. if you're enjoying the programme, if you're enjoying the channel, tell your friends , your family tell your friends, your family and let's change the world together. and by the way , this together. and by the way, this programme costs you out . which programme costs you out. which which is why i haven't had a haircut in a couple of years. right. to through. next up, right. lots to through. next up, live in the studio , rob, the live in the studio, rob, the legendary figure in the tory party, gerald howarth . be party, sir gerald howarth. be talking talking talking brexit. we're talking bofis talking brexit. we're talking boris rishi sunak. he rate boris rishi sunak. does he rate him? the migrant crisis and much, much more. and don't forget we've got the papers at 1030 sharp you can set your watch to it. you shortly .

we welcome back to mark dolan tonight at exactly 1030 sharp. we've got papers you can set your watch to it with full panel reactions, some very big stories that are breaking as we speak. bnng that are breaking as we speak. bring you more on that shortly. but it's time now for mark meets in, which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics, sport and beyond. tonight's said gerald howarth, former conservative mp. from 1983 to 2017, representing aldershot and previously cannock and burntwood so gerald , the parliamentary so gerald, the parliamentary under—secretary of state at the ministry of defence as minister for international security strategy and is chairman of pro—market, pro—freedom campaigning group, conservative way forward, not dissimilar to the other group that he's of no turning back as a lifelong

brexiteer . 2016 he joined the brexiteer. 2016 he joined the political board the advisory board of leave means leave and particularly passionate about the plight the british armed forces , sir gerald is a forces, sir gerald is a qualified . he was commissioned qualified. he was commissioned into the royal air force volunteer reserve , an acting volunteer reserve, an acting pilot's officer in 1968, 20 years later, in 1988, he received the britannia parliamentary pilots of the year award. well, he's come back down to earth since leaving parliament in 2017 and is highly experienced and respected politician has plenty to say about the challenges facing this country. i'm delighted say that sir gerald howarth joins now. so gerald, welcome to the studio . gerald, welcome to the studio. thank you very much indeed for having me. lovely to have you on the program conservative the program. conservative way forward. i'm president now forward. yes i'm president now instead of margaret thatcher and handed over the chairmanship. first of all, to james cleverly, who's now foreign secretary, of course. well, that also great pedigree. and as you mentioned, margaret ,

pedigree. and as you mentioned, margaret, each founding margaret, each of the founding presidents and how away do you think has the conservative party gone from her original vision? well i think we're in difficult, different from those that prevailed when she came into office in 1979. of course , office in 1979. of course, britain was in terminal decline post—war. we had become a socialist country. even conservative governments and. of course, she she revolutionised that partly with the help of the no turning back group. we were bunch of young , young members of bunch of young, young members of parliament who just come in in 83, swept in on the back . the 83, swept in on the back. the extraordinary falklands campaign and the popularity of thatcher. so who were the no turning back group and what was the philosophy ? well, it was people philosophy? well, it was people like michael fallon, michael forsyth , who's now in the house forsyth, who's now in the house of lords as chairman of the association of conservative peers, neil hamilton edward lee . angela rumbold is no longer with us, and i wanted people and

people like that . and angus. so people like that. and angus. so in ranks his son francis maude, who is now in the house of lords. but i think there is a need for a vision today. obviously we've had two very big hits. first, it was covered and caused by this plague and that in lockdowns around the world, which meant a loss of production so that the cost of that which was being produced and is today being produced is so much more expensive and is also, i think , expensive and is also, i think, had a quite an adverse effect on people's way of life. people now want to work from home. we have young people about work life balance . when i was leaving balance. when i was leaving university and looking for a job, i did not understand the expression work life balance . expression work life balance. you just went out and did some work . yeah. so there's all that work. yeah. so there's all that . and the second thing, of course, is the ukraine war, which has resulted in the extraordinary increase in fuel prices, which affects everything else. and that is what's fed into the cost of living crisis. and i do think it's unfortunate.

ministers not setting to ministers are not setting out to the people, particularly the british people, particularly those seeking go those who are seeking to go on strike because want more strike because they want more money. they more money. understandably, they more money. understandably, they more money. but the cost living crisis is not within the control of the government because it is these external which have driven up prices . and the good news , of up prices. and the good news, of course, boris johnson led the way in the west dealing with putin's brutal invasion of ukraine, because that's got to be resolved . ukraine produces 60 be resolved. ukraine produces 60 million tonnes of grain per annum. and i was talking a ukrainian member of parliament a couple of months ago and she was telling me that this year it's reduced by half. so we've had those adverse factors. but what i think we've got to do is to look back at what margaret thatcher did and what she did was to encourage enterprise . and was to encourage enterprise. and i that there's too much in i fear that there's too much in the treasury which is saying, yes, we've got to balance the budget, understand that we came into government in 2010 with david cameron and we inherited a budget deficit of 160 billion patterns that year. budget deficit of 160 billion patterns that year . and george

patterns that year. and george osborne knew charles exchequer had to deal with . but i think we had to deal with. but i think we do need an enterprise economy , do need an enterprise economy, we need a growth economy and i think putting up a capital that taxes is not the way to which i said to liz truss the then jeremy hunt, when, when, when it comes to how to navigate way forward for the economy, let's yeahi forward for the economy, let's yeah i did feel that we should we should seize that opportunity of course there are risks but then everybody said these tax cuts were unfunded . well, tell cuts were unfunded. well, tell me about where the cost of covid came from. that was me about where the cost of covid came from. that wa s £440 billion came from. that was £440 billion pretty well, three times. what the budget deficit that we inherited from brown, i pointed out on this show in one or two debates with all the other other guests, is that and actually the imf have admitted this, that because we are now going to be raising taxes, we will have a longer and deeper recession. well it looks like that to me. and i think we've got get away

from treasury orthodoxies . a from treasury orthodoxies. a very interesting story in the paper , i think yesterday, which paper, i think yesterday, which was that our young people who want to pursue careers in medicine cannot get places at medical schools. three new medical schools. three new medical schools. three new medical schools have been set up with the express purpose of foreigners, not british people. and the reason is apparently because the treasury will not fund places for our young people to study medicine in this country. we're short of doctors, we're short of nurses . jeremy we're short of nurses. jeremy hunt understood that when he was health secretary, he more about it than we to have the treasury funding places , british people funding places, british people to careers in medicine . that's to careers in medicine. that's what the nation needs. can't argue with that. another headache for rishi sunak is the migrant crisis. yes illegal in. illegal crossings and. it's up to up to a thousand a day when the weather's good enough. how does he stop this from happening? because i think that

in a couple of years time when he to the polls, this could he goes to the polls, this could be deciding factor. you're be a deciding factor. you're absolutely this absolutely right, mark. is this absolutely right, mark. is this a factor? we have a critical factor? and we have added the population in this added to the population in this country something like seven between seven and 10 million people since since the millennium . and in the last 20 millennium. and in the last 20 years. well, it's unsustainable in the last decade and, half a million last year, which is a population the size of liverpool. absolutely and something like 700,000 incomers registering for gp surgeries . registering for gp surgeries. the system cannot cope and one new house has to be built every 5 minutes in order to accommodate the increase in population people. so in and we need to build new houses why. do we need to build new houses ? we need to build new houses? that's new migrants that's because the new migrants coming to this country have got to be housed. i talked to be housed. and i talked regulated. priti patel when she was home secretary she was beside herself with frustration at trying to get something done. european court of justice is not helpful. the european to human rights. i'm sorry, which of course was designed to stop a

repetition of the holocaust, wasn't designed to stop us deaung wasn't designed to stop us dealing our border dealing with our own border problems . we have we have the problems. we have we have the courts who are not helpful. we have a massive sort of migrants legal business acting to try help every single migrant coming to this country. and this is a major issue for britain and it's changing the nature of our country . and one of those on, country. and one of those on, i'm afraid to say we saw what happened to lady susan hussey, a lady of exception or character who had given 60 years of devoted service to our magnificent sovereign . and i magnificent sovereign. and i thought that her treatment by a woman who would appear certainly had no time for the royal family and may well have gone to buckingham palace in order to pay buckingham palace in order to pay to course some problems. and thatis pay to course some problems. and that is a sort of demonstration of what we're having in our country. and then we see, you know, people coming here and telling us to pull down our statues and rewrite our history and not acceptable. what do we

do? well first of the do? well first of all, the illegal migrants we them back in the channel we don't have the border force escorting them into dover. border force escorting them into dover . we send them back to dover. we send them back to france, whence came a safe country . secondly something like country. secondly something like 1.4 million visas were issued last year. we can't keep doing that. yes of course we need some help . but we've got 5 million help. but we've got 5 million people in this country who are on our work benefits . they need on our work benefits. they need to be put to work . and my son in to be put to work. and my son in law , james cartlidge, who is now law, james cartlidge, who is now exchequer secretary at the treasury, understands these matters and if he's watching tonight, james, get on with it. unless some of those 5 million people out of work benefits , people out of work benefits, let's get them back into the economy . i tell you what, the economy. i tell you what, the spirit of thatcher lives on through your wise words and yours. certainly a loss to parliament, but i do hope that you'll us again on mark you'll join us again on mark dolan we have a on dolan tonight. we have a on fridays and it's eight till 11 and i have the range friends in the first hour. when you come

back, i'd certainly love to look forward to it. sir gerald howard, thank you very much. amazing conversation. your reaction to sir gerald has reaction to what sir gerald has had say. mark at news uk had to say. mark at gb news uk the papers .

next it's just gone 1030. it's time now for the papers out always as always at 1030, every friday, saturday and, sunday. and let us start with the guardian. they are leading with the following , are leading with the following, sir. sicker and poorer report reveals . britain's sir. sicker and poorer report reveals. britain's widening health divide in britain are getting sicker and poorer with a gaping health and wealth divide between regions that's getting worse . economic inactivity , worse. economic inactivity, because of sickness, is at its highest since records began , highest since records began, with two and a half million working age inactive because of their poor health . the their poor health. the government's levelling up agenda is being critically undermined.

the report says. as the new data shows , is twice as likely to shows, is twice as likely to force people out of work in the north—east england, wales and northern ireland , as in london northern ireland, as in london and the south east of england, labour said the report's findings were devastating anger at tory claim that strikes aid putin to. tory party chairman nadhim zahawi has been accused of insulting nhs workers with a ludicrous suggestion that it's the wrong time to strike over low pay because it would help vladimir putin divide the west, zahawi told broadcasters that nurses should call off their strikes and abandon their pay demands because it risked playing into the hands of the russian president, who he said wanted to fuel inflation in the west . three in wanted to fuel inflation in the west. three in england see senegalin west. three in england see senegal in a world cup that is teased and confounded expectation as england march mercilessly on a familiar blend of the sky, that kind of eights and the sublime saw off senegal all the champions of . there you

all the champions of. there you go. that's a report from the guardian that very fond of the stuck hand of writes, i believe , is the embodiment of a sort of russian stoic efforts. if my history degree taught me anything was it politics. the metro . here we go . three lions metro. here we go. three lions are set for a world cup quarter final clash with france. england roared into the world cup qualifying polls with a three nil win over senegal and now face a thrilling clash with reigning champions france . after reigning champions france. after a nervy 30 minutes, jordan henderson and captain harry kane home twice in 6 minutes before half time with teenage sensation bellingham, who is only 19 when playing a crucial part in both goals . that's always good. isn't goals. that's always good. isn't when you got a tournament, when there's a new fresh face, when bnng there's a new fresh face, when bring new talent? that's always a good sign . top scorers say a good sign. top scorers say eye. england face france in battle for the final four. energy firms meanwhile target

homes in fuel poverty. half million households are so deeply in debt over their energy bills that gas and electricity giants were granted the right to force them onto controversial prepaid payment metres in the past year . an eye investigation reveals increases in this contentious utility warrants policy being issued against the uk's poorest families as a cost of living crisis deepens . magistrates in crisis deepens. magistrates in one court granted almost 500 orders in under 4 minutes as a debt agent representing energy firms dialled by phone and insisted no one on the debt list was vulnerable. the sun next valley, three kings now bring on france and. ace races home from qatar . a story we told france and. ace races home from qatar. a story we told you about earlier. raheem matt raid terror . raheem sterling's family have been would appear to have been the victims of an armed burglary at home. whilst, of course he was abroad in qatar he's on his

way back and we wish the family well. financial times brussels promises help for companies to offset impact of us green subsidies and sunak's offset impact of us green subsidies and sunak' s £1.4 subsidies and sunak's £1.4 billion brexit opportunities fund for business rebel existing cash. fund for business rebel existing cash . they go a negative cash. they go a negative headune cash. they go a negative headline about brexit which is very much the theme of my big opinion monologue, which i'm delighted to say call from all digital team has crafted into a very excellent video which is now going viral as we speak. this is mark dolan tonight the home of viral videos, right? said fred. we're on the programme. last night they went viral our opinion monologue viral our big opinion monologue about woke group trying to cancel christmas that went viral. is where it's viral. this is where it's happening folks we tackle the big stories with big angles big opinions of course i couldn't do of it without you . let's get the of it without you. let's get the views now of . my panel to those views now of. my panel to those big newspapers stories. we have adrian hayes. big newspapers stories. we have adrian hayes . we also have adrian hayes. we also have hilary freeman and linda jubilee

. they all esteemed journalists and commentators in, their own right, properly commenting , i right, properly commenting, i should say, qualified to comment on big stories today. right. let's talk about this interesting story. anger at tory claims that strikes aid putin. nadhim zahawi has told nhs workers not to strike because that helps russia. linda an interesting angle and not a very obvious one to take. no, i think it's as i've got a lot of time from the zaha way and i met him fairly recently at a dinner. i think he's a very admirable man. i think that his life story as well is a brilliant guy arrived in the country, in this country, aged nine or ten as an iraqi refugee . no english spoke. no he refugee. no english spoke. no he didn't speak any english when he got to school and he learned within eight months is highly impressive, highly organised, man. but i think this kind of thing manipulative. he should thing so manipulative. he should never done i don't know never have done it. i don't know why hasn't he a point ? if why hasn't he got a point? if everyone pay rise, we everyone gets a pay rise, we will. inflation. good will. inflation. that's good news russia. i think it's

news for russia. i think it's emotional blackmail, though, to tell how service workers that they're actually feeding stuff into into putin agenda is a stretch and it's manipulative. you don't have to talk that way to make your point. and he shouldn't have done it. however, hilary, these pay rises are inflationary and is bad for the country. so it's not in the national interest, is it? well, no, but you know, this is not something that's happened. you know , this is this predates the know, this is this predates the ukraine war, the way that nurses, nurses should have been paid a lot more a long time ago. and things have happened. i mean, i remember a few years ago that when you've trained to be a nurse. you got paid 30 grand to do this training money to just keep your training. now you have to into in order to to get into debt in order to train be a nurse. so, you train to be a nurse. so, you know, like have made know, things like have made the situation it's really it's situation and it's really it's a real pay cut over the last real terms pay cut over the last decade, isn't it? yeah. yeah exactly. even if if exactly. even even if even if they sort of five or 6, they're down on where they own where. they might be. yeah. and we've

got foodbanks got nurses going to foodbanks and should not and that's that should not be. but this message land mean. but will this message land mean. could register with the could that register with the public. that that public. what is saying that that you know, essentially get public opinion anyone going on strike pointing out that it threatens britain's national security almost. i think he might have more luck he tries to get more luck if he tries to get people against the train drivers or the nurses. or the postmen, the nurses. yeah. people support nurses . you yeah. people support nurses. you know, we are all clapping for nurses a couple years ago and nurses a couple of years ago and suddenly we're there that they're supposed to be enemy they're supposed to be the enemy because want bit more because they want bit more money. think that. that's money. i do think that. that's going it's just going to work at all. it's just naked politics, adrian. yeah. look, it's causing a straws. in fact, there's a part the putin anger , public support for this anger, public support for this war is reducing. and i think they're getting a little bit desperate thinking how the desperate now thinking how the money we talk the money we talk about the government needs money and i we've before this shout we've spoken before this shout out zero and about two h as to but the ukraine is costing but the ukraine war is costing a lot of money public sports leaving but so it's trying to get support but on the that get some support but on the that the key about strikes look look

i'm a first responder the south central ambulance so i'm part of the nhs but don't get me speak about the nhs because you know , about the nhs because you know, again, i keep saying it so many times being on here, we need politicians with courage and we have they just too have them. they are just too cowardly to do the reforms it's needed to make a call out where the nhs is failing. we the frontline workers, the nurses , frontline workers, the nurses, doctors. yeah, great job we do. but i wouldn't see the get all the praise i think. but there's radiographer, nurses, porters is the data . there is lots of, you the data. there is lots of, you know, workers cleaners, of course. so let's not just sort of just nurses. i mean, they of just the nurses. i mean, they do a great we know this and do a great job. we know this and they are overworked. this they are overworked. but this whole institution it's been whole institution and it's been spoken news so many spoken and gb news so many times, a complete times, it needs a complete radical radical what radical change. radical what would look like, you would that look like, do you think ? well, it's got to stop think? well, it's got to stop looking american. look at the german model. german model of french model. there's means mixed there's ways and means mixed private national asset. private mix, national asset. i would personally even paying to see a doctor look coffee shops

up you know to pay to see a doctor it was stable the waste the time wasting on actually get doctors back to same it's a very little sum that's that's a fair point and certainly worth the debates sicker and poorer report reveals britain's widening health divide this in the guardian hilary and economic activity because of sickness is at its highest level since records began so this is a real worry right ? records began so this is a real worry right? here's the records began so this is a real worry right ? here's the stat. worry right? here's the stat. two and a half million brits inactive because of their poor health, but all working age. so they could work but can't, as it were. you know, this is very worrying. i mean , i think and i worrying. i mean, i think and i think some of this is probably down to long—covid as well . i down to long—covid as well. i know several people who've got long covid and who can't work as a result of that. but yes, people people are so poor they can't see doctors , they can't can't see doctors, they can't afford healthy food , they can't afford healthy food, they can't heat homes. and we are heat their homes. and we are poorer, poor , poor are getting poorer, poor, poor are getting a lot poorer . and it poorer, poor, poor are getting a lot poorer. and it is a really, really scary thing. we were talking before about clothes . talking before about clothes.

think where the think it's glasgow where the average life span of a man is like 50, 68, chichester. it's three. and they in these you have identified want to live 83 years in chichester i don't have there. i'll go with you . i want there. i'll go with you. i want to go straight to glasgow and go out with a bang . no, no, no, no, out with a bang. no, no, no, no, no, no. i'd like a quiet life. i feel very bad if i. but i think this. this health divide is really, really important . and really, really important. and the problem is that as we get become an older population , the become an older population, the situation becomes more and more serious because we've made enormous strides in the care of cancer patients and heart patients. we're now dealing with a load of degenerative diseases that go on for decades after we used to we used to retire at 60 and 65. now we've got dark shades where we have to manage everybody's and it's looking pitiful look after them, pay their pensions, but it's someone who's obsessed with health, fitness and nutrition . it's such fitness and nutrition. it's such a travesty . and i agree. there's

a travesty. and i agree. there's a travesty. and i agree. there's a huge divide between north and south, but we've got to get back to teaching kids in schools, home economics , cooking, cooking home economics, cooking, cooking . we were speaking about cooking out , you know, we know instead out, you know, we know instead of diversity, inequality and eqtu of diversity, inequality and equity and all these work issues. let's get back to some of the fantastic. the reason why that matters is because so much of this illness and by the way, i sympathise with anyone that is struggling health struggling with ill health because end, even it's because in the end, even if it's lifestyle think lifestyle related, i think you're the victim a very toxic food environment in which we exist. you at type two exist. but you look at type two diabetes i think diabetes now, i think approximately million people have this . and that's have that in this. and that's a disease does not need to exist . disease does not need to exist. it's predominantly lifestyle related, not type one. but type two is because it's the processed fast food . you tend to processed fast food. you tend to get the high bmi and that's when you get the type two, the overdose of carbohydrates. i know you're passionate about this as well, but we have type two in the fifties. didn't know it the food fda, the it was the food fda, the demonising making and

demonising of fat and making and sugan demonising of fat and making and sugar. big the power of big sugar. the big the power of big food corporations. there's another so we another angle story. and so we let feed now let food companies feed us now rather yeah so rather than farm. yeah so everything's a box and in everything's in a box and in a package or delivered feeding and just life. piece of meat, some eggs cheese. i've to make eggs cheese. i've got to make i mean, most people know what a real chicken looks like. it's wrapped in clingfilm, but but no, this. but there's no, this, this. but there's a lot sickness. a lot lot of sickness. there's a lot there's issue on which i there's another issue on which i know gb news of covered quite the arguments which the excess death arguments which we probably won't go into tonight. this is tonight. but this on this is very at the moment. they very high at the moment. they are higher. i think, than they were during the pandemic. we are. are. and i know mark are. we are. and i know mark steyn dan's covering steyn is covering dan's covering it. covered as it. you've covered as well. there's things that are there's hidden things that are behind that as well. what do you think? there's things. oh, well, behind that as well. what do you tithinkthere's things. oh, well, behind that as well. what do you tithink there's. things. oh, well, behind that as well. what do you tithink there's. you1s. oh, well, behind that as well. what do you tithink there's. you1s. oh myzll, i think there's. you want my opinion. yeah no one gets cancelled not watch cancelled not on my watch doctor. dr. malhotra will actually say it more than anyone. i mean, we've got, anyone. i mean, we've we've got, in opinion , looking at all in my opinion, looking at all the data i read everything, the data and i read everything, the data and i read everything, the damages, injuries is the vaccine damages, injuries is maiming is huge. and i think we're only the tip of the

iceberg. very sadly, i hope wrong, but diabetes, heart circulation , diabetes. ricky circulation, diabetes. ricky ponting just collapsed with the heart failure the other day of just a cpr issue . you know it's just a cpr issue. you know it's prevalent , it's everywhere and prevalent, it's everywhere and you can't go one can't say definitively what it means, but it raises a question mark. and there are top medics, including there are top medics, including the chief medical officer of florida, who has said don't vaccinate your kids. right. this guy not some quack the guy is not some quack on the internet. chief medical internet. is the chief medical officer florida who's spoken officer of florida who's spoken out? i think the whole point about the vaccine is that if we hadnt about the vaccine is that if we hadn't had the tyranny, the coercive and it wouldn't be a problem. but because so many people were forced or guilt tripped into having it or for fear of losing their income had to it. and i think there'll to have it. and i think there'll be day of reckoning. but be a day of reckoning. but i should add that the government are very confident that the vaccines 100, all of vaccines are 100, all of extremely tested the extremely safe tested with the rest i guess, i guess rest of it. so i guess, i guess it's open for debate hillary. well we be like china well we could be like china that couldn't people couldn't wait where people haven't vaccinated then haven't been vaccinated and then they're stuck. so you know ,

they're stuck. so so you know, that is, there isn't a simple answer but i think with vaccinate and i know we've kind of didn't hear that that's okay. you know, that's nice and there was no we flu in that all covid in that too absolutely . yeah in that too absolutely. yeah like what was it pete ? pete. like what was it pete? pete. that guy from from the baby shambles. pete doherty yeah. no i've had more flattering things said about me, i must say. i take it anyway . yeah, but yeah, take it anyway. yeah, but yeah, with vaccination , you know, with vaccination, you know, there were always been side effects of vaccinations but there has never been vaccination on such a huge scale. so of course it's going to be more side effects because that's there's more people being vaccinated the same time. so i think i very, very wary of conspiracy theories here. so well i'd say i what i do i defer to all of your opinions and i think that's what would have been so lovely for two and a half years is for adrian to say what he thinks you to say what

you think, hillary you just say what think. linda what you think. linda and wouldn't world better wouldn't the world a better place that we can sort of have all different views and then make judgement our own, but make a judgement of our own, but and that's will and that's what will always happen watch here on mark happen on my watch here on mark dolan so fascinating dolan tonight so fascinating conversation. we'll get to more of next hour of the papers that next hour after break. i've got the daily telegraph, the mirror and the times don't anywhere .

welcome back to mark dolan tonight. now folks, have we got the papers ready and up? can we do this? holly yes, we can. let's a look at the daily telegraph rail refuse to save christmas rmt rejects an 8% offer and presses with walkouts that threaten to wreck the houday that threaten to wreck the holiday plans of million cards. albanians could be banned from making modern slavery claims to stay in britain and force tech giants to give us access to our children's accounts, say

bereaved families. the times now met office braced for lightning strikes as pay storm gathers lion's roar through to the quarter final and midlife health checks go digital patients will answer a questionnaire and a blood sample at home instead visiting the gp . and last but visiting the gp. and last but not least , the daily mirror. now not least, the daily mirror. now for the french dream world. england in quarterfinals, but star sterling flies home after. family's burglary, terror . there family's burglary, terror. there you go. brilliant brilliant stories across across the paper and of course, that part of that very sad story, raheem sterling, we wish his family well. great news for england . and of course, news for england. and of course, we'll bring you plenty of reaction. the next game reaction. so the next game against france in a few days time . let's react to some of time. now let's react to some of the other big stories of day. and we all love particular tale. so get straight into it and it is all about school and toilets because let me tell you about

children and human rights. a bristol school will not allow students to use a toilet during class . and some have said it's a class. and some have said it's a breach of human rights. this ban has left parents outraged and kids are only able to the loo at break or at lunchtime or at the end of day. the school has taken measures response to students and parents requests. but should they tell the school to bug off is going to the toilets are human rights or is the school taking the pay or do you think, linda? i think when i read this story , i couldn't actually story, i couldn't actually believe it personally when can remember back to when i was at primary school. i never used to leave the classroom to go to the toilet. i mean, it just didn't happen. so i don't understand what the fuss about. if a child wants to the toilet, you wants to go to the toilet, you let out and they go to the let them out and they go to the toilet in the school, in is one of them reception don't use toilet come back the toilet come back in the classroom open others at regular intervals see what intervals i can't see what the argument well, my argument is all about well, my suspicion, that this suspicion, linda, is that this is very good school with high

is a very good school with high standards they might standards and what they might have reading the have noticed reading between the lines sometimes lines is that sometimes the kids, as an excuse to kids, the toilet as an excuse to have a bit a break, they're have a bit of a break, they're probably for ages. they probably gone for ages. they disturb students, disturb the other students, then they come, then someone else has to off to the loo. and it's to go off to the loo. and it's like a bloody piccadilly circus. that guess. well, that would be my guess. well, then think if it's a good then i, think if it's a good school, they should. institutions and institutions structures and discipline that discipline and stop that happening. perhaps. discipline and stop that hapjisn't g. perhaps. discipline and stop that hapjisn't that perhaps. discipline and stop that hapjisn't that what perhaps. discipline and stop that hapjisn't that what they're haps. but isn't that what they're doing rule denying doing with this rule by denying young loo during class, young loo breaks during class, they're look, sort they're saying, look, sort yourself you yourself out before. i think you need that far. i think you need to go that far. i think you need to go that far. i think you need to go that far. i think you need to understand need to get kids to understand what structure is all about, what structure is all about, what disciplines or if what disciplines or about. if one them to go to the one of them wants to go to the toilet, let go to the toilet, let them go to the toilet. can one in toilet. they can one in reception. can i go the toilet now? what could easily what? but yeah don't think this is yeah my. i don't think this is that uncommon. it's pretty much the same at my daughter's school and she ended up with a uti because really looked at the kids don't drink enough because they're worried they're not going to able to use the going to be able to use the toilet when they need go. and toilet when they need to go. and when school worry when a primary school worry about accidents

about having accidents for some of still accidents of them still have accidents when they're sick. so i think primary school is understandable. but doing secondary, you not secondary, i mean, do you not find that these young adults, when the cinema to when they go to the cinema to watch movie, they've watch marvel movie, they've normally wee normally sorted out their wee wee beforehand. sex. wee beforehand. the best sex. but they have but i, they they have a secondary school for girls example you know if they're having a period they might have been might need change their tampon something might tampon or something they might have kinds of have flooding all those kinds of issues for you as a former military you must have read into some very unusual devices. right. very personal right. i'm very personal question . i haven't seen question. i haven't seen particularly on the trekking to the north pole. that's minus six. so that was pretty well, how did you have a wee in the nonh how did you have a wee in the north pole. it freezes you snuck it off and there's a spear to kill a polar bear. she said, oh, you're trying to use one of the gb news what by the way? gb news mugs. what by the way? michael be using that michael portillo be using that next to thank gb next week. i want to thank gb news for making this like a katara i am burning katara desert. here i am burning up. is. but yes, up. here it is. tony but yes, going on. the issue has come back to the issue in question. look as you said, right, you say

cinemas 2 hours, two and half cinemas 2 hours, two and a half hours, these films, hours, some of these films, top gun, but with gun, two particularly, but with with with the adverts. i with with all the adverts. i don't it's too much to ask kids to have a toilet break. let me give you two in two. now producer holly doesn't think it's we it's possible, but i think we can squeeze two stories in before we go. first of all, great discussion long an great discussion about long an engagement of course, engagement should be of course, it's isn't it's quite traditional, isn't it, engaged before it, to get engaged before you actually married? actually get married? bobby devereaux the with devereaux tied the knot with vicky. right. we wish every vicky. right. we wish him every happiness . they've been together happiness. they've been together for 12 but the question for 12 years. but the question is. do you need to bite the bullet and get married a year after engagement? what's the right not going right length? you're not going to and i think there is a to answer and i think there is a right length, but i think, you know, engaged is very know, getting engaged is very nice. ring. nice. give someone a ring. so we're getting it's we're getting but really it's just a statement of intent to get isn't and if get married, isn't it? and if you're going be engaged for you're going to be engaged for years and years and years, what are you saying? you saying you don't i think it don't really want. i think it could ring. i mean could be a big ring. i mean vanessa has engaged vanessa feltz has been engaged 15 riddick. yes. come on, 15 that's riddick. yes. come on, ben, get cracking. don't you think this is fun, ladies? the

clock is ticking . absolutely. clock is ticking. absolutely. you to put foot down you need to put your foot down with of these men. and the fact of the matter, i think a year is a reasonable length time. but yeah, i think yeah, yeah, absolutely. i think engagements value engagements lost its value and nowadays what it used nowadays it's not what it used to it's become a media to mean. it's become a media look. we just got engaged on i pubuchy look. we just got engaged on i publicity stunt right finally indiana jones is here number five harrison ford brilliant. yeah he still looks great. he is 80 he looks and mccartney's . it 80 he looks and mccartney's. it turns out it gives all of us hopeit turns out it gives all of us hope it you don't stop when you get old you get old when you stop. one of my favourite quotes all time. but i look at film sequels are going to ask the best ones. i always like the ones where the second the follow up was better than the first. and there's two examples i'll give you terminator two was better terminator and better than terminator and i think top gun maverick is actually than first actually better than the first one. desert storm. the one. i love desert storm. the godfather two didn't see that one. but yes also, i think toy one. but yes i also, i think toy story two, my toy story as story two, my edge, toy story as well. yeah. that's emotion. well. yeah. so that's emotion. that's of

that's a good ingredient of a good sequel. brilliant stuff. briefly, your favourite franchise cup . 2 seconds. oh, franchise cup. 2 seconds. oh, god. i got a bond . plus god. oh, god, i got a bond. plus james bond . thanks for your james bond. thanks for your company i'm back on friday at 9:00 was .

okay i'm addison in the gb news room. england have beaten senegal three nil in their world cup knockout in qatar, cooking themselves a place into the quarter finals. themselves a place into the quarter finals . jordan henderson quarter finals. jordan henderson scored . the first goal in the scored. the first goal in the 38th minutes with an assist from jude bellingham. captain harry kane made it two. now just before half time. it was his first goal of the tournament, and bukayo saka got the third in the 57th minute. the victory means gareth southgate's men move into the last eight and will take on defending champions france on saturday. former