good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez. this is the latest from the gb news ring. the rmt has announced further strikes across network rail over the christmas penod. network rail over the christmas period . the union says rail period. the union says rail staff will walk out from 6 pm. on christmas eve until 6 am. on the 27th of december. with next week's strikes going ahead as planned, it said it will the latest offer from network rail to its members with a recommended option to reject, claiming the deal will lead to unsafe practises transport secretary mark harper says it's very disappointing the rmt hasn't played its part in continuing talks. instead of holding strikes we made sure

there was a new improved pay offer, which i think is fair to rmt. then what is disappointing is the fact that the rmt not only have not cool off strikes , only have not cool off strikes, they've actually caught more strikes for the christmas period. and i would urge them to call those strikes both put this pay call those strikes both put this pay deal to their members with a recommendation that it be accepted . gb news understands an accepted. gb news understands an eighth child has died after contracting strep a . it follows contracting strep a. it follows a 12 year old child being the first secondary school student to have died after contracting the eton face of infection. the uk health security agency confirmed a single case was identified at cough school in south london . downing street is south london. downing street is urging parents to be on the lookout for symptoms and says there are no shortages. antibiotics more than 850 cases were reported in the week starting the 14th of november, compared to over 180 for the same period last year.

compared to over 180 for the same period last year . the same period last year. the government says changes to the levelling up and regeneration bill will place local communities at the heart of the planning system further amend means will be set out by the levelling up department tomorrow. the government is also set to abolish compulsory housebuilding targets following requests from conservative mp aiming to protect the environment . supporters of the environment. supporters of the proposal say this would also ensure local communities is forced to accept unwelcome alongside new measures in the bill. the government will also give councils the power to refuse further planning permission . labour is warning permission. labour is warning millions of people are missing out on getting serious medical conditions diagnosed because they're struggling to get a gp appointment . the party has appointment. the party has estimated figures from a recent survey which shows 13.8% of patients in england couldn't book to see a doctor. the last time they tried. it said the latest gp patient survey data shows more than 5 million people couldn't get a gp appointment when they tried to make one in

october and the government, it has declared christmas has officially begun at westminster as the house of commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle announced the christmas tree light on outside parliament mp peers and parliamentary staff are joined by a choir who sung an array of christmas carols. tv online and dab+ radio . this is gb news now dab+ radio. this is gb news now a sign of a deadline . a sign of a deadline. hello. welcome to headliners . i hello. welcome to headliners. i am simon evans joining me tonight . we have comedians josh tonight. we have comedians josh howie and nick dickson . good howie and nick dickson. good evening, gentlemen. so let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages. we start with tuesdays mail, i believe furious sussex is netflix's claim of war on meghan the telegraph tuesdays

has sunak abandons housing target catch up . there is target catch up. there is another picture of the sussex season in a typically emotive pose, but the sooner story is the headline. tuesday's i paper leads with antibiotics en masse for children in strep a schools , a bewildering headline move will be having a probe into that front page very shortly and also a uk health warning on very cold weather . tues a uk health warning on very cold weather. tues guardian the prime minister backs down on housing rolls in face of pressure from tory mps. picture there however, a couple of lads who are not backing down on their goals . backing down on their goals. hopefully their saturday tues times one in seven denied gp appointment and there is that familiar image of meghan there fighting back tears at all the injustice she has had to confront tuesday star finally get the popcorn in folks at that is once again on those two

privacy loving individuals in the united states those we all from pages. let's have a look at them in some more detail. oh, josh, i think you're kicking off this one with an in—depth look into the guardian front. this one with an in—depth look into the guardian front . yeah. into the guardian front. yeah. so they have their i think that the only paper to not have a photo of meghan and harry on the front. so if you just if you if you squint you could mistake those two couldn't you possibly just about you have to be like half blind. but harry maguire, maybe ginger wig. two guys here pointed other. i'm not sure who they are . anyway, earlier on in they are. anyway, earlier on in their romance that harry as they may be future royals but the main story that going is pm backs down on housing goals in face of pressure from tory mps, this is meant to be the bill where they were going to be pushing to build 300,000 homes a year. pushing to build 300,000 homes a year . now they're basically

year. now they're basically watering it down a bit and saying that is an aspiration. yeah, oh yeah. maybe and this was part of what this government needs to be do what any government who's in power needs to be doing. we need more homes built in this country. this was seen as the main tool that would make that happen. and make that happen. yeah and there's a danger now there's obviously a danger now by as you say, by making it, as you say, aspirational, target aspirational, that that target is way off. so it's is going to be way off. so it's and is it presumably this is a sap. it a surprise, if i can sap. is it a surprise, if i can ever to remember so it's just up to the tory mp to have nice , to the tory mp to have nice, comfortable rural and suburban because about tory employees because about 100 tory employees who rebel against bill. who were rebel against the bill. so they were hoping to make some sort of compromise. but now basically sunak has blinked first and as criticism here that he's putting the party unity over the national interest. but argue that that's all tories been doing for 12 years now. what do you think? we've been around housing block a few around this housing block a few times, does seem to that times, but it does seem to that there is a confusion the there is a confusion between the quantity and the quantity of housing and the quality housing, and that's quality of housing, and that's one always one thing i always find slightly. think awful lot

slightly. i think an awful lot of think, oh my god, of people think, oh my god, don't want hideous housing don't want some hideous housing development edge of development on. the edge of town, those loads town, you know, those loads of like matchbox houses remain the kind of that even kind of ones that don't even look out of look as if they're made out of proper bricks. they look as if they're probably concrete with some type. i think some sort of brick type. i think i in one of those. yeah. i live in one of those. yeah. i honestly think if they would just like kind of just be a little bit more creative and put it bit better quality. it in little bit better quality. yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. you know, people would be a lot less hostile to the expansion of their village. why? beauty matters is. yeah, i would say they've made everything very ugly. everything very, very ugly. yeah, yeah. i mean, but yeah, exactly. yeah. i mean, but yeah, of course nimbyism. yeah, of course it's nimbyism. their houses their constituents have houses and don't want ugly and they don't want houses, ugly houses built around them and they prices to go they don't want the prices to go down. obviously it's down. obviously but it's changing labour would changing as well. labour would the votes i hear so obviously sunak worried about the sunak is worried about unite the party about party and he's worried about getting re—elected. there getting re—elected. and there is a though the a thing actually though the other to other argument i've tried to make before of course, make before is, is of course, about immigration. there is a i you may have seen this meme where someone is talking about the wages. we're roughly in parity prices 1997. parity with housing prices 1997. and happened. the and then something happened. the x—files in a

x—files music comes in and a classical comes because in classical comes in because in 1997 was a huge spike in 1997 there was a huge spike in immigration the in the blair immigration in the in the blair is you know that is one is so you know that is one argument 97 and now we're now yeah yes it's even worse if we have but we need houses absolutely we need houses. and so we need to build as well. i agree. we clearly have plan for any immigrants backs, so we're going to have to find somewhere for them to live. it does seem to mean, i'm my parents to me i mean, i'm my parents live in norfolk whenever live up in in norfolk whenever visit them. there is a new housing along side of the housing along the side of the a11 i haven't seen a11 something i haven't seen before. know sprout a before. you know they sprout a lot. it does depend lot. i think it does depend where live. you in london where you live. if you in london you get the impression it's just, you know, an insoluble mess. know, that there's mess. you know, that there's nothing going there are nothing going on. there are there more here going. what there are more here going. what else that london else have you heard that london is near as is actually nowhere near as dense paris, for example. dense as paris, for example. so i think we even it feels i think we could even it feels dense when you're walking around and cheap and it and you're on the cheap and it could be a lot more. nick and i live there's a lot of new developments. there is. but what we is a lot of two storey we have is a lot of two storey developments where as france

build them higher. so for some reason, storey reason, my dream is to storey thing. think that would thing. i think that would be a really good thing if instead of people regular people thinking regular two storey massive tower storey houses or massive tower blocks, if were to think blocks, if they were to think in terms five storey, you terms of or five storey, you know, style to see know, the parisian style to see something fantastic. something exactly fantastic. well i feel have got well done. i feel i have got a i've got a handle on that now. hopefully the phone will be ringing the time we get off ringing by the time we get off here. what have we got? here. what else have we got? your with is. your next with the times is. yeah the times is focusing on the your union the strike. it's your union delivers misery a delivers more misery with a christmas eve strike. so there was already to strikes was already going to be strikes on the 17th. and on the 13, 14, 16, the 17th. and in january third, fourth, sixth and seventh. now there's and seventh. but now there's also to be 1:06 pm. also going to be 1:06 pm. christmas a.m. also going to be 1:06 pm. christmas am. on christmas eve till 6 am. on december which is a december 27th, which is a it's a nasty time, isn't it? and of course, they've been accused of ruining people's christmas. i do think look think it is a bad look especially we had the especially after we had the lockdown christmas is when christmas in christmas was banned. and in future we've got people future we've already got people talking christmas talking about banning christmas because now christians a minority country so minority in the country so christmas cancelled christmas are be cancelled next yeah been christmas are be cancelled next year. been our year. this could have been our last yeah right. this last clearance. yeah right. this is lot christmas stuff. is a lot of christmas stuff. i right next i'm bothered by this

i'm by fact they've i'm bothered by the fact they've been 8% they've turned been offered 8% they've turned down is huge more than nurses down 8% is huge more than nurses are being you know already on the from 44,000 i think the stall from 44,000 i think the stall from 44,000 i think the drive are on 57 or the drive is are on 57 or something and then on top of that the fact is that every household the railways to £600 dunng household the railways to £600 during covid that's all money and now the time of year we need it. yeah. and what they're saying 8. that is fair. it. yeah. and what they're saying 8. that is fair . we are saying 8. that is fair. we are a fair country as over fair. saying 8. that is fair. we are a fair country as over fair . yeah. fair country as over fair. yeah. and inflation is going to go down they want to 11. it's not going to be 11% in six months time. so i think this is disgusting. i think we got that rant for me, but i actually just meant your last part christmas because you're working christmas day, means can't be as day, which means you can't be as bothered. wanted get bothered. but i wanted to get training. the thing that i'm genuinely upset about is now is i've got book as soon as it's i've got a book as soon as it's we're off air, i'm going to put my airport because that was my deal christmas deal for doing christmas was i get away on boxing day. so get to go away on boxing day. so ineed get to go away on boxing day. so i need to book airport parking for that's going to fill for boxing that's going to fill up. so that's my tip if anyone's going airport

going away, get an airport parking would love to parking book now i would love to work nothing work christmas day. nothing my mum would forgive me because you know, it's the one you know, it's the one day you should probably family should probably see your family anyway. derail. no, i. anyway. sorry to derail. no, i. everybody. think everybody. very good. i think the thing roadshows the funny thing about roadshows and usually and all that, there's usually one half of the calculation that's secretly relieved, isn't there? that's the trouble. you know, there'll be half the people thinking, god, people thinking, oh, god, we don't have to leave the house. you know, that is the trouble at christmas. you need forced christmas. you need to be forced to get there and. then you to get out there and. then you create memories and optics. so you look at you want to look at the magazine. go with that. no magazine. we'll go with that. no one would go with that one should we would go with that from the daily mail. but because the in seven, we want to the one in seven, we want to have look at the eye. we want have a look at the eye. we want to i'm sorry. you to have a look. i'm sorry. you want to have else? want to have something else? what that? no, not. not what was that? no, not. not massive, an it. they've massive, just an it. they've also with in seven also gone with one in seven denied appointments it's the 5 million to million people unable to get them month. won't them this month. it won't surprise, but that's the other story. it is finding story. yeah it has is finding out okay. so the out of control. okay. so the antibiotic with health on antibiotic same with health on mass children of this mass children because of this strep which has taken strep outbreak which has taken some very young, tragic lives, has have died. has eight children, have died. now in now one of those children is in this, the first child in

secondary this is four secondary school. this is four times as much normal built times as much as normal built up.and times as much as normal built up. and there's some people that might because, of course, might be because, of course, people weren't intermingling dunng people weren't intermingling during covid lockdown. so it's sort of that when to start lows and now it's build up and sort of overcompensating for that. so you there have one you think there would have one or spread out? all of that or two spread out? all of that would have had not we would have developed you know, would have had not we would have devjusted you know, would have had not we would have devjusted some you know, would have had not we would have devjusted some of'ou know, would have had not we would have devjusted some of kids now, not just well, some of kids would have developed immunity. it's like i don't how it's not like i don't know how it's sadly, it's not it's spreading. sadly, it's not like diseases that, like a kissing diseases that, you i, i think it's just you know, i, i think it's just spread like a like but it's bacterial. yeah but this sounds like a very idea. i mean, there's always course this balance between overseas grazing, subscribing antibiotics , but they had already done this in a school where people did die and think any steps necessary to protect the safety of this is , protect the safety of this is, just the kind of troop surge where they get them and get the business in and out there is a bit it's slightly confusing. they talk about they want to give it to proof on a prophylactic basis. so i was

like, is that via or. yeah it is an old word that is meant prophylactic. is it really just means preventative , you know, means preventative, you know, but it such a strong resonance . but it such a strong resonance. yeah. that preventing something. yeah. that preventing something. yeah. it's also a nice little thing you here in the front page of the i saying young christians where counter culture now and i want to give nick when i saw the legends of you raving away dropping pills yeah was that in front of you and saying if this is the new rock roll courageous . well, duran duran , uk health . well, duran duran, uk health warning is aunty blunt not not a huge story, but you will tell it we it is it is kind of bleakly cold actually walking around today i felt it suddenly i felt my chair draining away . oh not my chair draining away. oh not very good. yeah, i think endurance. i took a perverse pleasure in going for a run the other day. shorts t's are just to prove i'm from the north, looking all the pansies fully clothed know well we got to we've made commitment to go into

the christmas eve you're the sea on christmas eve you're running the sea. wasn't running into the sea. it wasn't . is that close? the fan base up. so finally from the front pages, we're going to the daily mail, the story, the only show that anyone really interested in. fury fury is sussexes. in. yes. fury fury is sussexes. netflix claim of war on meghan . netflix claim of war on meghan. so of course, there's been these trailers about harry and meghan's new netflix bonanza. and there's this the great where they talk about how great it was, was a rock star. everyone loved her. and then everything changed and it like dark. changed and it goes like dark. and it's now everything just bad and funny thing about it is they claim someone it's claim someone saying it's racism, it's like , racism, it's hate. it's like, well, really work well, that doesn't really work with and the with the constants and the variables unless you variables because unless you suddenly race what suddenly changed race what really that got really changed that people got to she was like it to know what she was like it turned out very nice and turned out not very nice and that's basically happened and also if we're being very the media to tell people down media likes to tell people down of and build them back up of course and build them back up it's to do yeah but it's media loves to do yeah but the was suddenly was the idea that was suddenly was racist when everyone wanted desperately love and desperately to love meghan and all was we learned all that happened was we learned what like went, what she was like and we went, nah, it funny. that is now

nah, it is funny. that is now i remember a lot of people like the mail coming at her and creating the sort of impression that was a nightmare. and that she was a nightmare. and then saying, then other people were saying, oh i can't believe it. oh my god, i can't believe it. so racist. loads of so racist. there were loads of example every previous example of every previous person, know, diana, most person, you know, diana, most famously, you famously, but even himself, you know, close me. lampoon know, was close to me. lampoon yeah, well, diana was actually hounded so doesn't hounded to death, so it doesn't get and i think get much worse. and i think that when showing those when they were showing those articles them, they articles do remember them, they put the, the two put them like the, the two princesses each other . princesses next to each other. and, you know, one was wearing a dress. and the way they were basically selling it basically selling them and it was was little bit was there was a little bit between her. yeah. but between kate and her. yeah. but i whether was down to i mean whether that was down to racism just like these other racism or just like these other factors, i'm sure it's picnic negotiating , political minefield negotiating, political minefield of the royal family that's of the royal family and that's obviously she came obviously another area she came unstuck as many us probably unstuck as many of us probably would. it's good question would. it's a good question whether intended to be whether she ever intended to be stuck, though, or whether it's always mean, that's the always i mean, that's the question, it, whether she question, isn't it, whether she was just throwing a grappling hook we know the hook in. right. we know the answer definitely i answer definitely was. well, i wonder the reality of wonder if it was the reality of it wasn't what thought it it wasn't what she thought it would no in terms it. but

would be. no in terms of it. but i mean, i argue that when she first sort of emerged on the scene, i'd say maybe this is just a puzzle . people just a puzzle. people were somewhat by her heritage somewhat excited by her heritage by how to be a bit of hollywood a bit of yeah a bit of glamour. and also i think her ethnicity was seen as a positive thing, a sort of silhouette. and so this idea that to the extent rejected because of her ethnicity, i think think might go with you. i think think might go with you. i think it's funny as well you say it didn't meet her expectations probably she'd be probably thought she'd be queen within months. was within about 12 months. i was surprised. that's how it surprised. that's not how it works. i mean, so works. i mean, she's so self—involved. anyway, self—involved. anyway. anyway, coming have braverman coming up, we have braverman one's albanians band. will. one's albanians band. we will. starmer agrees with brexit basics and why young people are taking more risks online. that's all in a couple of minutes. we'll see you shortly .

and welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans , still with me, simon evans, still joined by josh howie and nick dixon . so let's take a look at dixon. so let's take a look at take a look inside these newspapers. tuesdays times has suella braverman who don't albanians or well pretty much yeah all about maybe plans this island band for migrants from albania and it's this new list of safe countries and it's called the white list as a coincidence no racial element intended but that was an that was an existing home office wireless but they've sort of changed it slightly and they're going to have this other list of countries where allowed countries where you're allowed to man. you can come in if to be a man. you can come in if you're woman, a child, but not you're a woman, a child, but not a man because you're deemed safe is place ghana, is like a place like ghana, nigeria, etc. nigeria, gambia, kenya, etc. liberia wrong. liberia they're wrong. no, they're they were they're not. well, they were molested mali, molested here. malawi, mali, sierra on the surface. sierra leona was on the surface. ukraine ukraine. did they do they? they update the they? they need to update the same because it has same things because it has ukraine it. and is this ukraine on it. and this is this is nick timothy is drafted is a nick timothy is co drafted with a little bit with he was a little bit controversial during theresa may yeah some policies go yeah some policies didn't go down interesting guy

down that well interesting guy and obviously do and we have to obviously do something saying something david davis was saying the that we are the other day that we are actually terms of we've actually in terms of the we've had fewer complaints against us in european court of human in the european court of human rights albania. so albania rights than albania. so albania are deemed country. so are deemed a safe country. so technically should be going there. you're right. it's there. right. you're right. it's a technical definition. so there's reason to take this there's no reason to take this many critics many albanians. now, the critics of have well, what of this have said, well, what about 51 refugee about the 90, 51 refugee convention? counter convention? and i would counter that kind of that this is a kind of a emergency. so we do need to actually do something about it. and think this is, you know, and i think this is, you know, is it's a decent start, is a decent it's a decent start, you know, lieu of putting you know, in lieu of putting immigration zero. yes. immigration to zero. yes. obviously want. but we obviously we all want. but we can know, is this is a can you know, this is this is a thesis, i mean, sweden of doing they're taking lots of they're not taking lots of albanian people because they say it's so it's it's a safe country. so it's quite think it's quite reasonable. i think it's reasonable. think an reasonable. i think there's an awful lot of public disquiet on this particular aspect of it and it be very if they're not it be very long if they're not careful before donald trump character comes along and start characterising the characterising albanians in the way characterised way that he characterised mexicans. know and you start mexicans. you know and you start to a little of to whip up a little bit of actual antipathy the moment. actual antipathy at the moment.

i grumbling, i think there's grumbling, you know, is definitely a know, but there is definitely a sense people are sense that some people are playing it's not going playing the and it's not going to it won't go away. absolutely. playing the system. but the other is that there is other thing is that there is a hypocrisy and i got a piece when i said this last time, is that coming here? most not to sell coming here? most of not to sell drugs. they here because drugs. they come here because they they're getting they have work. they're getting paid want to paid cash. if you want to have your loft on cheap, you want to get your buildings done cheap. that's they're that's why they're here. they're here for the work. albanians, albanians. yeah. and the building trade. so they're coming to sponge coming here not to sponge off, but they're coming here to work because are being given because they are being given opportunities. i'm not saying. that's i'm saying that's right. i'm just saying that's reality it. right. that's the reality of it. right. and by other albanians or and what by other albanians or by people who want by by british people who want their built for all their lofts built for nearly all that work. i by companies there's obviously some of there's obviously some kind of into interims here isn't it. well i mean you've got well yeah. i mean you've got people have building companies and albanians people have building companies and getting albanians people have building companies and getting whyilbanians people have building companies and getting why are nians people have building companies and getting why are they and they're getting why are they employing they're employing it? because they're cheapen employing it? because they're cheaper. going cheaper. well, they're not going to iraqis or to be cheaper than iraqis or syrians. well, no, but they have they do a lot of building stuff. and it's harder iraqis and and it's harder for iraqis and syrians those. and those and it's harder for iraqis and syrinow those. and those and it's harder for iraqis and syrinow iraqis. those. and those and it's harder for iraqis and syrinow iraqis. ande. and those and it's harder for iraqis and syrinow iraqis. and syriansiose and it's harder for iraqis and syrinow iraqis. and syrians are are now iraqis. and syrians are arguably actual seekers

arguably actual asylum seekers as opposed. are little as opposed. these are little builders oh, you builders coming over. oh, you see mean? actual see what i mean? with actual i mean, i know for a fact that there are certain other less savoury, know. i'm savoury, but i know. but i'm saying i'm sure. but they are. a lot of them coming over for lot of them are coming over for work. not saying that work. yeah. i'm not saying that makes it right, i'm just that a lot them are coming because lot of them are coming because they jobs or, you know, they have got jobs or, you know, illegal but they illegal jobs in hand, but they are money who abused are earning money who abused you for that last time, i just got a bunch of bunch of this bunch of email, a bunch of this fan the list date back to fan base. the list date back to labour though in 2002. so labour which this the interesting which this is the interesting thing very it. thing at the very end of it. well no what they're saying is that there is a danger here. okay. and agree something. okay. and i agree something. absolutely. are playing the absolutely. they are playing the system be system. something should be done. the danger is, is that done. but the danger is, is that by just that, anybody on this white list should now just automatically be kicked out. they are still accepting people on that white list as genuine and asylum seekers. so just because those countries themselves might be seen as, oh, like, okay and whatever, there are political there might be

people seeking political asylum . so there are reasons why people, even if they're on these safe countries, still might seek asylum and are still being asylum. that's the danger. so i just don't want to throw the baby out the bathwater because , baby out the bathwater because, you know, when they talk about like rejecting leaving the european human rights cause, that affects us also. josh tues independent has starmer's evolving views on the single market and if you don't like them, he and others yeah yeah well exactly keir starmer here basically saying whatever it takes to win back the red wall he agrees with leave voters bafic he agrees with leave voters basic case for brexit despite backing remain so he's basically arguing that he sees the point about this the idea of essentially what it is control i would argue building meaningful communities. i think building it yeah yeah. but, but take back control. take back control. i would argue that we're not in control. we are on our second unelected prime minister. so

where's this control also ? where's this control also? that's not just pretend that we won or the country wasn't sold. this idea of financial have been proven. now to be just a load of cold wash . but yes, it's a good cold wash. but yes, it's a good thing that i think that he at least is showing an understanding of why a lot of people did vote to leave of i was going to say almost the exact same thing is josh but yeah he's saying that he's finally at least showing and you can cynically he wants to win the election which course he the election which of course he yeah least his rhetoric yeah but at least his rhetoric is showing empathy with leavers for want because obviously they've a way to they've worked out it's a way to get wall it's get the red wall back it's social conservatism. the weird thing brown he thing is that gordon brown he wasn't the first wasn't elected in the first time, seems behind all of time, seems to be behind all of this he's pushing thing this and he's pushing this thing to abolish the house of lords. he's actually radical than starmer want of give starmer and want to sort of give power back to people and they say the transfer of say it's the biggest transfer of power westminster to the power from westminster to the british question british people, which i question will i'll be locked in will still be. i'll be locked in our homes a moment's notice. it's servants it's about taking civil servants out westminster sending them out westminster and sending them to whatever. 50,000 out westminster and sending them to service, whatever. 50,000 out westminster and sending them to service, which ver. 50,000 out westminster and sending them to service, which is r. 50,000 out westminster and sending them to service, which is fine, 000

civil service, which is fine, but think he'll do that but i don't think he'll do that much. i'm bit. but gordon much. so i'm a bit. but gordon brown is the sort of dick brown then is the sort of dick cheney of the this coming. yeah, yeah. the power behind the yeah. he's the power behind the throne. around and he throne. yeah, he's around and he there was argument there was, there was an argument between starmer's aides between him and starmer's aides on of specifically and on the house of specifically and starmer's aides were basically saying, down bit, gordon. saying, calm down a bit, gordon. we need to scrap we don't need to scrap everything quite everything because it's quite radical. brown wants radical. whereas brown wants the house gone in within house of lords gone in within five of a labour five years of a labour government. mean i, it's government. and i mean i, it's ridiculous. i do think there does need to be change, but i think the idea of spending this political capital squandering it as people have commentators as some people have commentators said, a bit a bit said, i do think is a bit a bit silly and a shortsighted silly and a bit shortsighted because there's a lot of other stuff going the good stuff to be going on. the good news that people have said news is that people have said for years that where starmer's policy is oh, well, he's got policy is, is oh, well, he's got some policies can some policies now. so can criticise them not. at least criticise them or not. at least he's something. head is he's got something. his head is above tuesday's above the parapet. tuesday's guardian some guardian now making some extraordinarily weasel words here, to discuss the here, employed to discuss the spectrum of online from the criminal to the morally risky . criminal to the morally risky. well, a slightly loaded question this well statement but it is

the guardian and it is the eu. so yes, risky online behaviour almost normalised among young people's know no one people's studies know no one knows what any of this means, but this is the eu. so is a study done. it's the us university of east london but funded by the based which says well spain is a big boot. i mean it's basic explains why people do bad things online but it ends up including virtually everything looking at everything like looking at material, speech. material, posting hate speech. i mean , trolling very loose. mean, trolling very loose. that's what monday morning is actually tuesday is the hate speech. but yeah, it's i mean , speech. but yeah, it's i mean, so and by the way , we still won so and by the way, we still won this the uk one they did they went through criminal and non—criminal risky behaviour with no one knows what it means. but the uk was the bottom at 58% and spain was the worst of 75. so whatever this is we still i'm we still won. but here's my problem the eu recently tried to ban threaten twitter. ban or threaten to ban twitter. they're threatening elon musk already. hate free speech. already. they hate free speech. they obviously don't use studies like justify it. they like this to justify it. they justify it in terms safety, justify it in terms of safety,

but it's about banning free speech being an speech and, being an authoritarian dictatorship . but authoritarian dictatorship. but and just briefly, they and also, just briefly, they mentioned the online safety bill, saying a bill, someone here saying it's a good but safety good thing, but online safety bill well. it's bill is flawed as well. it's still going to be a big fan. they've left section 127, which allows people like daniel to be prosecuted. very prosecuted. so i'm very sceptical the online safety sceptical of the online safety bill, very i person bill, but i was very i person was sceptical. headline was sceptical. the headline stuff as you say, stuff that they were as you say, there were things that were think normal think perfectly normal if slightly of laddish behaviour. i think looking online, i suspect they've massively underestimated they've massively underestimated the to do that. the amount of people to do that. yeah. they is 8. yeah. yeah. when they said is 8. yeah. right just same men boy you talking about teenage . i can't talking about teenage. i can't imagine. i mean i, you know the lengths we used to have, to go to and were prepared to go to in order to get to, you let's travel. he's travelling to france. yeah going to french exchange . well that's a service exchange. well that's a service station . there's satellite. he station. there's satellite. he finished with that sir. but also

the, this whole thing, i mean i don't know what they mean by trolling. i mean, that's one of those words that means different things. think of it as just being they is being as i think they is a serious as a teenage , as serious as a teenage, as a parent of a teenager. yeah. who doesn't participate in but there is a lot of issues at their which is what undermining confidence. yeah people like with whatsapp groups and sort with a whatsapp groups and sort of so what we would call of talking so what we would call trolling. yeah which is what you get in a bit when the get in a bit when i'm on the taxi home is that you know that there is bullying this online bullying sensitive and bullying and your sensitive and youn bullying and your sensitive and your. yeah but at the root of it is war for the internet. we've is a war for the internet. we've got a war for inside the eu wants to control it. you know people the democrats, people like the democrats, whoever, people whoever, whereas people elon musk to free. and musk want it to be free. and this is this is the coming war. yes. the coming war. you radio service. we won't get it. josh tuesdays a million tuesdays i now half a million kids neither in work nor education needs it. that's education that needs it. that's neat. that's neat. that's neat . neat. that's neat. that's neat. yeah. the highest number in five years. data show so it's up to 630,000. yeah which is what it

was . which is. yeah. but even was. which is. yeah. but even before covid and yeah. it's, i never sort of understood this concept before but yeah. they're basically what they i didn't realise the terminology was economically inactive. yes. so it's not just the news. yeah they're neither in education or employment or training. that's what the is. so what are they doing though. yeah. they're all bullying other online. yeah i guess. know it's weird isn't it. but it's a funny thing i think when you get to our age, you look back, you know, even possibly look possibly nick's age, you look and go, this is the this is and you go, this is the this is the crucible. this is the crucial years. these the crucial years. these are the times start making some sort times to start making some sort of and mapping what of progress and mapping out what you with your life. you want to do with your life. but when actually at that but when you're actually at that age, it's, it's straight age, it's, it's, it's straight largely plausible isn't largely easy and plausible isn't to a couple. to just sort waste a couple. yeah, should look look at the yeah, we should look look at the monitor. it's nice looking at nick cuttings. nick. and he thought this is like thought to me yeah this is like the and then christmas the ageing and then christmas finishing could see running finishing i could see running well i like transforming to him

because he's older than i feel bad for these kids. yeah, yeah i think so. but you've got a government taking virtually all their potential pay in tax. you've got the fact that benefits pays more than work. you've got the fact that they're going to own a house and the country's in general decline. why they out work why would they go out and work in a way and they've got to make it pay to work and they've got to make sure it's by competent people as says people because as it says here, the chaotic the scheme has a chaotic delivery. that's big problem delivery. that's a big problem that take delivery. that can't take delivery. i think would the think that would be the inscription tombstone of inscription on the tombstone of this tombstone of this government, i'll take delivery. no there was a tweet no first, if there was a tweet the day, yesterday the other day, fact yesterday i posting just musing on the posting or just musing on the possibility start possibility that we soon start seeing the of a sort new seeing the effects of a sort new kind of a flavour of kind of a new flavour of illness, the deep illness, which is the deep motivation . the lack of what you motivation. the lack of what you see as an illness that emerged from a recognition that as soon as you train for something ai is invented , can do it better, and invented, can do it better, and that the people are seeing quite a lot of chat bots and artists

and commercial illustrators, that kind of thing. i wonder if this is part of it. i don't know. this is actually one of the work that we're going to talk about later. the most popular word of the year or whatever ties into that. yeah. yeah. so yeah, stick around. let's you for nick let's thank you for that nick tues telegraph in tues telegraph the latest in irish separatism yeah it seems to be swinging at it maybe it's time to tell this about half is it . this is my favourite topic. it. this is my favourite topic. i grew up in the era when i'm still a bit to comment on irish politics, but basically twice many voters would many northern irish voters would stay in the uk rather than choose ireland. this is choose a united ireland. this is an poll. it's a boon for an ipsos poll. it's a boon for the a bit of a blow the dup. it's a bit of a blow for sinn fein who was thought it was quite like this. was going to be quite like this. they put they wanted unity referendums by 2030 and because now a catholic now there's also a catholic majority the first time. majority for the first time. and so thought great for us, so they thought is great for us, but they're this proves but they're saying this proves we're the boycott we're right to keep the boycott going the northern ireland going over the northern ireland protocol to protocol and they still want to be. that someone wants be. it's nice that someone wants to stay with us. scotland does anyone else does this one though? is despite

though? and that is despite a catholic vigil that's 1% of catholic vigil that's 2020 1% of voters catholic background voters a catholic background would just is would choose just that is surprising isn't for two reasons. the traditional reasons. one, the traditional loyalty also the south loyalty but also the south whatever you want to call it, ireland where as i mean are some suspicion that they cook the books a bit but their gdp per capha books a bit but their gdp per capita very, very high in some some they may have to pay to go to see a gp. so they have to pay i think they pay eight times more for prescriptions there are good things about being part of the yeah. well i mean the uk. yeah, yeah. well i mean i'm, i'm maybe yes. to be they do want to stick around do they want to stick around it's really quite hard for me we've through so many years we've been through so many years of you know of bad tempered you know misandry from the scots you know just endlessly they sort of look at them fable like they're the one i feel the way you do you think they were they sort of attractive girl but you know you were friends with at school if nothing i think if you ever go to the edinburgh festival was comedian you do recognise that the regard ireland as like the

farmer you know and they regard us as the english comedians is considerably less welcome generally speaking you start from a lower stage. have you done the edinburgh festival. yeah but i never will again, which is a great thing. you know, i've moved into commentary. so now when commentary. so now with when people online, i say people insult me online, i say i'm a comedian, beautiful, i'm a comedian, my beautiful, i'm a comedian, my beautiful, i'm anymore. i'm i'm not a captain anymore. i'm a serious commentator. called serious commentator. once called . up, republicans may . coming up, republicans may support ditching the us constitution . soon, more young constitution. soon, more young people are taking drugs and britain is about to lose its marbles. or is it? we'll find out in a couple of minutes.

welcome back to headline as i'm simon evans. let's jump right back into it with josh and josh we have today's guardian now on republican moderates are tying themselves in knots over donald trump's perfectly reasonable

demand that the constitution be suspended and he'd installed suspended and he'd be installed as lifetime . yeah, fine for as a lifetime. yeah, fine for republican moderate refuses to disown him over constitutional threat . this disown him over constitutional threat. this is dave disown him over constitutional threat . this is dave joyce of threat. this is dave joyce of ohio who now the chair of the republican governance group. right. was basically an interview and just continually about whether and he kept on sort of being like, well, i'll vote for whoever is i don't think they'd like but said there's no like yeah well i don't think he would implement i said well if gets in would you. he's like no, i'll vote for whoever. so essentially that's they finished the interview with them believe the them say i can't believe the interview. like i can't interview. just like i can't believe you're actually saying you would willingly vote for someone based on someone who wants to based on the very it's the person and very it's very clever. mean, not say it's clever. i mean, i not say it's entirely illegitimate, but starting from 6th of january, a low point onward from that low point is onward from that they kind of been to they have kind of been able to present being essentially present as being essentially like incarnate, you like the devil incarnate, you know, threat democracy, know, and a threat democracy, which there some which obviously there is some evidence, you want evidence, you know, if you want to say that, that he might well represent. but it does kind of

create danger of the create the danger of the alternative, of sort of alternative, danger of a sort of one party state mentality where they if, you they can go listen, if, you know, going to follow know, if you're going to follow that mean, that that be. no, i mean, i understand. agree with you a healthy democracy needs strong counterpoints to each other which why think this which is why i think this which is why i thiso this which is why i think this which is why i thiso far; which is why i think this which is why i thi so far down country has gone so far down the toilet four years toilet and lost four years because had such a terrible because we had such a terrible labour opposition. yes. now we've republicans being we've got republicans being cowards. to cowards. i know nick's going to do counterpoint to and do a counterpoint to this and that's fine. but the fact is that's fine. but the fact is that they're, you know, they're afraid for their own but afraid for their own fight, but they're that whole they're afraid of that whole maga very few maga community, whereas very few them standing them are actually standing up and what, this and going, you know what, this is i'm putting that is wrong. i'm putting that country first. yeah and it is moodiness. who do you think? well very different. well something very different. so, clumsy so, thomas trump made a clumsy point. i've got the truth here from know truth, he said so with the revelation massive and the revelation of massive and widespread deception, widespread fraud and deception, working tech working closely with big tech companies, dnc and democrat companies, the dnc and democrat party. do you throw the presidential election of presidential election results of 2020 out and declare the rightful do you have rightful winner? or do you have a election, massive fraud a new election, a massive fraud of of magnitude allows of this type of magnitude allows for termination. all rules, for the termination. all rules, regulations and articles, even

those constitution those found in the constitution . did not . our great founders did not want would not condone false want and would not condone false and elections. so and fraudulent elections. so it's point is it's not great. but his point is his point is once but he's his point is once we but he's clarified it today, he said, obviously, meant the obviously, i just meant with the fraud election. yeah. so fraud and the election. yeah. so he's broken down he's saying broken down what i've with fraud . i agree i've seen with fraud. i agree with you. i do. i do. but when he put founders very common, he put founders in very common, such had such as trump, we had punctuation, he doesn't disrespect that's disrespect the founders that's just but so just him being weird. but so updated said, look, i'm updated and said, look, i'm talking about fraud. no firstly, the democrats, they the democrats, the idea they care constitution is care about the constitution is laughable. they're against laughable. mean they're against the amendment. the first and second amendment. we against the we proved they were against the pro—gun also they pro—gun control and also they said were going an said they were going to keep an eye on wanted to bring eye on twitter, wanted to bring something light of china something up. light of china changing adapting to is a changing and adapting it to is a disingenuous attack disingenuous form of attack because democrats, because the modern democrats, the old, the biden admin, not the old, don't hate constitution and don't hate the constitution and hate you're saying hate america. but you're saying that they've that the other thing they've said one point. the said aloud, one more point. the it's trump his point about interfere with elections. there's the actual fraud in terms the vote machine and so on. but now it's very to say there interference there was no interference because seen twitter because we've seen the twitter files did suppress files that they did suppress stories, legitimate stories from

the post the the new york post about the laptop. that the fbi laptop. and we know that the fbi contacting zuckerberg about it to on by now. we to suppress on the by now. we also know he had 7 million more votes, overwhelming lead votes, an overwhelming lead on the show. you familiar the electoral show. you familiar with the that if with the polls that say if people had known about the hunter story story, hunter biden laptop story story, they switched to they would have switched to trump about that trump had they known about that and therefore that would have switched and could have switched it and trump could have potentially is that potentially won. so that is that is election interference. and it may not little vote efforts may not be little vote efforts may not be little vote efforts may may not also may or may not have also happened, a it's a happened, but there is a it's a type fraud or i think what it type of fraud or i think what it is. that's not what saying, is. that's not what i'm saying, though what he mentions the dnc is is very much is point is a it is very much him sitting out stool him sitting out his stool i don't think has any don't think he has any legitimate that there would you know that it would any kind of revisit election is revisit of the election which is likely but he is strongly asserting there as he had asserting that there as he had said time, there was said at the time, that there was you it's following it's you know, it's following it's malarkey, terrifying to a malarkey, it's terrifying to a twitter release because he says in closely with big tech in working closely with big tech companies dnc, so it was the companies, dnc, so it was the dnc that proven to have dnc that were proven to have been manipulating twitter. that's said. also, that's what he said. also, trump's were trump's government who were in power time, also

power at the time, also contacting and say, contacting twitter and say, could please take these could you please take these tweets ways . tweets off? it goes both ways. to extent. there was to a lesser extent. there was a some that have to see is some of that we have to see is apparently unproven as well. but the thing is, josh, there were they both parties were they were both both parties were contacting twitter appeals . contacting twitter and appeals. but this came from within twitter. this this decision and it was it was completely obviously unacceptable and wrong. it was unjustified by own terms of service. and there was a massive panic about it because they knew that they couldn't possibly justify it if they were told to carry on with it. so it isn't like. there's this constant special pleading that would happen in any of would happen in any kind of normal system, that would be normal system, and that would be like you like lobbying or whatever. you have learn to live have to sort of learn to live with that. to some, the bias within twitter itself was and i agree was an issue, but they did then that. but i would then change that. but i would say some emails that say that some those emails that everyone's look at this, everyone's going look at this, they talking about pictures they are talking about pictures of underpants, about of him in his underpants, about some oh, that's nonsense. no, that's not myself . some of those

that's not myself. some of those links, all of them all. but that some of them. that's not what they were arguing about. that is not that people know they are talking about. josh they are talking about. josh they are talking about. josh they are talking about hunter biden committing serious drug and sexual abuse. but saw the link to, a link to his undercover rep. extraordinary levels of corruption , ukraine with which corruption, ukraine with which now the us has a war that is not and that what you've just repeated a calumny which is quite popular on the left at the moment, on the side of it was just him in his underpants and nonsense. well that's nonsense. well i'm slamming that down. okay, well, you know, what about the killings rates? are these what the issue was for the issues? what issue are ? well, issues? what issue are? well, ones don't raise it. well, no, no, don't raise it. it's these emails that we're talking about, the released were all about his on it's been true as well it's been said about to take him seriously but not literally i think that's a good point i him talking of lifetime incumbents tues express jest that biden might have a crack at that by a

single expedient of having a second term. yeah would probably see him off. democrats look to ditch modernise party, ditch biden and modernise party, says pollster. this is says clinton pollster. this is stan greenberg, who's previously senior with bill senior pollster with bill clinton al gore our very own clinton al gore and our very own beloved tony. he's saying beloved tony. so and he's saying that he doesn't think it will be biden next time. and he said the democrats a vulnerable on borders and crime but just in general he doesn't meet biden . general he doesn't meet biden. and of course this brings up the question who will it be? biden's eight years old. who will it be? gavin himself out, gavin newsom ruled himself out, apparently be harris? apparently. will it be harris? aoc disturbingly would be just about old enough for much of that terrifying vision . mean, that terrifying vision. mean, who else have got on? who else have they got on? clearly isn't running. clearly isn't in the running. she is. no, no. i just threw she is. no, no, no. i just threw it in for joe. she is. no, no, no. i just threw it in forjoe. but but really, it in for joe. but but really, the question what i would say is the question what i would say is the question what i would say is the question more broadly is who's to decide the who's going to decide the election the election campaign, how the election's because if you election's a run because if you look at it, it's all about absentee ballots harvesting. this about rejected this thing about rejected ballots where the dems have accepted way of spoilt ballots than have been in the

than would have been in the past. look arizona past. look at arizona republicans lost and dodgy voting . look at florida voting machines. look at florida where fix that system where they fix that system and they miles. i would on they won by miles. i would on that i was republicans i'd that if i was republicans i'd just well they say you just purely on well they say you need to sort out their need they need to sort out their election there needs to be reforms and they need to speed it make a lot more it up and make it a lot more watertight. but in terms the watertight. but in terms of the democratically leadership, i do find and this is find it extruding and this is not isolated. not just isolated. the democrats, seems be democrats, it seems to be a problem across the west, to be honest, they'd never to be honest, that they'd never to be any like natural or any kind of like natural or cultural or institutional for like developing obvious next leaders. i mean, they let you travel around, they get on with hillary again. i mean, who else is it? who else there there might be someone coming through that we don't know. i mean, if i miss someone. no but. but we don't live there. we're not, as, you decent is the obvious you know, decent is the obvious replacement for trump and i think i have a fairly clear idea of his strengths and weaknesses and if was them, i would and if i was them, i would absolutely back desantis over over don't know over trump. i just don't know who is. i guess what they who that is. i guess what they have their process it's

have in their process and it's you that's what they do is you know, that's what they do is they go out there and they say, we're going to provide an inch. everyone feels like a complete, you know, sham , because you know, sham, because obviously had you've had obviously you'd had you've had all cared about was beating all they cared about was beating trump. that he was trump. they thought that he was the person it. he the best person for it. and he did it. whether he's the best person to the country that didn't do it, did they? they gave him. means gave it to him. and that means stop campaigning weeks stop campaigning two weeks before election. well, he's before the election. well, he's still 50 it still been basically 50 over. it was legitimate. trump was totally legitimate. trump the trump . that's the democrats took trump. that's my point. well, my view. that's my point. well, that kind they kind of created a shell. well, i would argue he beat trump. well because he is now the he is the president. but is he the president? i think i would argue no, he's not he's i mean, obviously, he's titular office is president. but you look at him, you can barely finish. he's all these running that a total hologram . that he's a total hologram. exactly. so just me my own. now what you say. i thought he's a hologram. yeah that's what i. well, i you know, i don't know if you were you being like that is virtually what he is. he has

no substance at all. certainly male. sounds like there is a new product on the black market child marijuana that yeah the best kind of marijuana yes child marijuana use a saw 250% in the last 20 years replacing alcohol as the drug of choice for under 18. you have to read about a page before you finally figure out that in america, which i sort of slow , they'll drop in sort of slow, they'll drop in like the words stay federal, but federal yeah, we change something. yeah, exactly so and they finally yeah they oh this is an america and they seem to be drawing connection obviously between the increase in legalised marijuana over there . legalised marijuana over there. yeah children taking it the is replacing is different from i'd more worried if it was superseding i alcohol is a very bad drug for children as well ideally they wouldn't be doing alcohol or marijuana. so what are you saying they're doing so marijuana they haven't stopped doing alcohol but. well no no in the they are doing less alcohol . right. and they're now taking more . both them

more marijuana. both of them have effects . children have negative effects. children shouldn't either of no. shouldn't be doing either of no. and but i guess it's about what's readily available and easier to get. it's because of the wave of legalisation. so they've legalised and this is one of the grotesque side effects of it because government shouldn't legalising serious shouldn't be legalising serious drugs like weed. you know, i find some people is you find that some people is you know, it is. well know, i mean, it is. well i mean, alcohol's a serious drug in comparison. mean, alcohol's a serious drug in comparison . they found that in comparison. they found that was okay. when that well was okay. well, when that well certainly we do for under anyway which great we news from the which is great we news from the independent now the british museum is not actually about to lose marbles just yet. oh yeah. no plans to change law over sculptures. rule says number ten. so. so this is the marbles. we're going to hand them back to greece now. maybe not, but george osborne, another blast from the past. we've got gordon brown. what? george osborne. he's chairman of the british museum been holding museum and he's been holding secret prime secret talks with greek prime minister possible minister about the possible return to so he's still up return to them. so he's still up to his shenanigans. let's talk about they've been about that. as they've been doing here in london and you

think, well, at hold the think, well, at least hold the talks he could get a talks in greece. he could get a houday talks in greece. he could get a holiday of it because it's a holiday out of it because it's a good anyway. they so good point anyway. so they so we're sure if happening we're not sure if happening on osborne's something osborne's to something secret and i mean look if we i mean you know what if we give everything back have nothing left. back we'll have nothing left. well know, you well we people you know, you know i just thought what know what if i just thought what if is just stealing if our culture is just stealing stuff, then it's not fair. it's not seem to be not museums. there seem to be sort crushes of confidence in sort of crushes of confidence in museums. number museums. there's a number of stories coming through stories have been coming through the foundation the wellcome foundation collection recently, which they've closed they've just completely closed down. it's just irredeemably tainted the colonial tainted with the colonial mindset something . i think we mindset or something. i think we have to understand all of have to understand that all of all artefacts, when they're placed in a building with with labels that labels on them explaining that there is always going to be a sort of frame, there? sort of frame, isn't there? there's going to be a there's always going to be a kind about they kind of story about how they ended this place. you ended up in this place. you can't just things neutrally and say, well, i don't know how we got here, but this is this is got to here, but this is this is it's story. i mean, it is it's bank story. i mean, it is plunder. yeah. well, to some plunder. oh, yeah. well, to some of them, although if we get actually interestingly there wasn't talk about actually interestingly there wasn�*well talk about actually interestingly there wasn�*well the talk about actually interestingly there wasn�*well the totem lk about actually interestingly there wasn�*well the totem pole.yut actually interestingly there wasn�*well the totem pole. no, that. well the totem pole. no, the totem is fine but they

the totem pole is fine but they are talking. what's are actually talking. what's really stuff really interesting is this stuff you the bronzes you know, about the bronzes being the to being sent back, the benin to binney. turns out the binney. well, it turns out the church said the archbishop church was said the archbishop of canterbury was sending back to two of that they had it to two of them that they had it turns out. they were actually made 1980s and they were made in the 1980s and they were they to the they were prisoners to the church they've sort said, church and they've sort of said, oh, we're them back. oh, no, we're sending them back. it's that's got it's like, well, that's got nothing with anything. nothing to do with anything. well, it's quite a good way of getting of unwanted getting rid of unwanted souvenirs, anyway, souvenirs, i suppose anyway, coming talking why coming up, we'll be talking why don't problem with don't have a problem with polygamy means to go polygamy what it means to go gobun polygamy what it means to go goblin way to goblin mode the correct way to use think kind. that's all use and i think kind. that's all after the break .

welcome back to the final section of headliners. i'm simon evans. get straight back into it. we have polyamorous relationships now. they're growing in popularity . according growing in popularity. according to tuesdays, male poly amorous. i should just say nothing do

with although it may with parrots although it may involve cockatoo. wow this involve a cockatoo. wow this show what i met when i was very pleased with that it's a good so a third of men are open to having more than one partner but just 11% of women think multiple lovers is a good idea. so it's a study. they asked about polygamy and they asked about polyandry , and they asked about polyandry, which of very different which of course, very different from polyamory, which is just cheating . but obviously polygamy cheating. but obviously polygamy when more when a man marries more than a woman and polyandry opposite woman and polyandry the opposite . but, you know, it's interesting . it's not really interesting. it's not really it's not an equal playing . i was it's not an equal playing. i was listening interesting listening to an interesting philosopher andrew tate, philosopher called andrew tate, and had point that men and he had a good point that men have always like men in kings. i think i've always had sort of multiple in history, it's multiple in history, but it's always frowned upon for always been frowned upon for women the same. suppose women to do the same. i suppose the to do with the obvious reasons to do with child and the different child rearing and the different reproductive strategies you might happen does might say happen in nature does it talked of it right? we've talked of strategies versus women, it right? we've talked of stra injies versus women, it right? we've talked of strain societal versus women, it right? we've talked of strain societal reasons,s women, it right? we've talked of strain societal reasons, butymen, but in societal reasons, but basically this difference between being a legend or a baiter , i mean, it's like you baiter, i mean, it's like you either got multiple you're a man

with multiple women or you're a woman multiple men. but that's stranger and more rare. and turns out even women are not interested in it. when you actually the statistics actually look at the statistics it's percentage of it's a very small percentage of women they're like that women say they're like that and a slightly percentage of a slightly higher percentage of men would want to men say they would want to do it. i think it needs it. i think the it needs addressing well. there's kind addressing as well. there's kind of version isn't of fantasy version of it isn't there like ursula andress surrounded you know, surrounded by sort of, you know, glistening or whatever an glistening sex or whatever an age like the hagfish. the truth is of people, when you see is most of people, when you see them involved in polyamory them are involved in polyamory relationships. of relationships. you're kind of like to back away like you, just want to back away a little . also think that a little. but also i think that the idea of the woman is like , the idea of the woman is like, you know, there's a few comics on the circuit who are like in polyamorous oh, polyamorous relation. oh, they're trying to sort of be like, oh yeah, she's and like, oh yeah, she's cheeses and she's much as me. and she's got as much as me. and then meet the, the, the then when i meet the, the, the partner, she's like partner, yeah, she's always like very meek and sort of put upon really. yeah. always. so every single time it's never you're like not this is his choice of these on the comedy set. yes. i always thought it was she just i just thought they were kind of weak. wants to what

weak. and she wants to do what she they pretend that she wants. and they pretend that it's open relationship when it's an open relationship when really she just. oh, no, it's wrong. always like, oh, wrong. it's always like, oh, he wants to cheat. he's like, wants to cheat. but he's like, no, talk about it. we're all, no, we talk about it. we're all, you we certainly you know, well, we certainly seem be in agreement that seem to be in agreement that it's really entirely it's really an entirely arrangement. the arrangement. i mean, that's the fact relationships, isn't it? fact in relationships, isn't it? they always say somebody always has one who has power and is the one who cares. josh tuesday now has cares. the josh tuesday now has banned your bad news, banned you for. your bad news, bad for your crisp pizza bad news for your crisp pizza sandwich. thank you. just been eating pieces the way eating some pieces on the way and eating highly processed food. your risk dementia food. could your risk dementia signs as well? and this is a terrifying article because that is essentially my diet. i expect this is america well yeah well there is there's they've they've studied 19 nearly a million people. i know a million people that have dementia already in the uk . but essentially this is the uk. but essentially this is actually quite a hard article to read and it's not just because i've also been a terrible food. research has found that for every 10% increase in someone's daily of ultra processed daily intake of ultra processed foods, had a 25% higher foods, they had a 25% higher risk of dementia and actually

took photo of this because i'm going to look at this every time. i'm going to actually need to very end to stuff. then at the very end of article it goes another doctor comes. there's not actually strong actually that much strong evidence well, you evidence and you lie. well, you just for three pages, mate. just me for three pages, mate. i've a lot of well, you'll i've made a lot of well, you'll be healthier generally anyway. you're staying. so are you you're staying. so what are you clearer advice. may i just think eat eat more? eat more nuts and you eat more? not anymore. not unhealthy food. that's why i'm trying to make tuesdays mirror. now the oxford engush tuesdays mirror. now the oxford english dictionary announces this year's annual that this year's annual reminder that we a illiterate and we live in a illiterate and unfettered and on we live in a illiterate and unf

ever used have you know it's an onune ever used have you know it's an online it's terminology online type it's terminology onune online type it's terminology online a lot. i'm in twitter. well yes, i heard a bit much. i heard of it a few times. and merriam webster, i'm with gaslighting and it's quite funny. then the mirror says funny. and then the mirror says here word the day here that the word of the day was vax because of misinformation , the anti—vaxxers misinformation, the anti —vaxxers your misinformation, the anti—vaxxers your gaslighting us now but anyway. yeah go mode it just basically means the total degeneration make degeneration of it doesn't make any it's 94 3% of any sense because it's 94 3% of 340,000 people voted for this. and saying this is the big one. well, if they're all about gobun well, if they're all about goblin mode, surely they're not going motivated enough to going to be motivated enough to fill form and vote how fill in a form and vote how adults . i fill in a form and vote how adults. i do see fill in a form and vote how adults . i do see evidence of it. adults. i do see evidence of it. i understand the proposition does not hurt, you know, does not hurt, but you know, it's living in athleisure wear, isn't i think that's the isn't it? but i think that's the dream mean. that literally dream mean. that is literally the kids our hands the dream kids moving our hands down pants some of which down the pants some of which i did which was in show. did see which was in the show. this metaverse. point like this was metaverse. i point like massive and i stand massive metaverse and i stand with stand with all words with i stand with all words i know, but it's all as well. and a declining our next story i think this might be our final straw for the evening this is

from the daily mail. it is a bit of a blue dress, gold dress moment, but it's in reading advent calendars. oh, yeah. parents divided over which parents are divided over which way they should open the advent . is annoying. so basic . . this is annoying. so basic. there's some of long debate there's some sort of long debate it i mean it's in australia so let's all come now but it's and isuppose let's all come now but it's and i suppose they do everything upside down because it's a debate between you with one debate between do you with one or i mean there's no debate or 24. i mean there's no debate it's calendar you start it's a calendar you start with one. apparently being one. but apparently the being what they're sort of flat what it is, they're sort of flat earth type saying i never thought of that before, but it does make sense. i think they're definitely to end definitely designed for to end up so yeah a calendar i up with 24. so yeah a calendar i love but that's kids though is it says here is better for kids because it's building down log five days together people are saying is just so kids are so annoying all time and you can say just look here i've been calendar there's 12 left or whatever it is i think it's a great what if we have a one now with dog in it as well with dog treats in it as well and i don't think cares and i don't think he cares either way saying they don't either way of saying they don't propose a new idea that's saying how have always done

how you should have always done it. that's we it. they're just that's all we have for. i hope we settle have time for. i hope we settle that. that's the end of the show. thank you to my i'll be back tomorrow joined by louis schaefer yes hooray simon finish a will a a wonderful this will be a tremendous show .

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