hello there. it's just on 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs & co show where we'll get dewbs& co show where we'll get into the things that got you talking today and now the latest death toll is nine children that have died of strep a . health have died of strep a. health experts are saying that locked downs did indeed play a part . downs did indeed play a part. all of this. goodness me , i all of this. goodness me, i can't help but ponder. have we

basically sacrificed the health of our young, our youngest children in order to save elderly the vulnerable in this country from covid was . that the country from covid was. that the right approach and 15 minute cities i like the idea of that quite frankly. you've got everything you need on the doorstep. but how far do you go in your quest? enforce that? one council is basically saying you can have permits, you can have a certain amount of numbers of times . you can leave your own times. you can leave your own district a bit weird to me. all in favour of saving the planet. would you be up for it or not? and the king charles is going to meet the lady that says that she was a victim of racism. is that the right or is it the role of royals bowing to public pressure and strikes after years of having our christmases restricted? finally, we're allowed to come and do as we please ? those pesky strikers ? please? those pesky strikers? other ideas? is it right that basically across the christmas penod basically across the christmas period the strikes will be taking place. do you support it

or not? blah, blah. lots of fun. but first, let's put up to speed with tonight's latest . thanks, with tonight's latest. thanks, michelle. i'm radisson in the gb newsroom downing street has declined to reveal if the prime is worried about patients dying due to nhs strikes . it's after due to nhs strikes. it's after three unions announced that thousands ambulance workers and other nhs will walk out across england and wales on the 21st and 28th of december. in a joint statement . unison and 28th of december. in a joint statement. unison and unite unions accused the government of pleas for a decent pay rise. however, health secretary steve barclay responded, saying unions demands are not affordable . owen demands are not affordable. owen saabis demands are not affordable. owen saab is the national lead officer at unite. he says patients lives are at risk. only 25% of chefs have the planned staff are actually on that

shift. there are 133,000 vacancies across the nhs in england alone . what our members england alone. what our members are telling us is that lives are being put at risk now and that people are dying now because of the state of the service . a man the state of the service. a man has been on suspicion of common assault during a walkabout by king in luton, bedfordshire police say the suspect, aged in his twenties was arrested in st george's square after an egg was thrown in the direction the monarch king charles seen being guided away from crowds by his security team . following the security team. following the incident, the king had been in luton to meet community leaders and voluntary organisations organisations. baroness mona is to take a leave absence from the house of lords following allegations that she benefited from a covid ppe deal. it's alleged that michele and her children received millions pounds after she recommended , a pounds after she recommended, a company to government ministers

the height of the pandemic. baroness mona has denied the allegations . the decision means allegations. the decision means she will longer attend the sittings of the house and won't be able to claim any allowance. deputy labour leader angela rayner says the pm should remove whip from the baroness, but is too weak. she saw the writing on the wall and did what she feels she needs to. but it shows also that the prime minister is still not tackling the problems we face. it was around this bp illegal track lane that he put in his procurement strategy on how receive goods and that's a problem to this day the prime minister still not dealing with the health secretary has told the health secretary has told the house of commons we are seeing earlier peak in strep a than usual, but is no new strain . at least nine children have died from the bacteria infection in the uk since september. the latest is a five year old from belfast. the government says antibiotics could be given to children at schools by strep a

as a preventative measure . nhs as a preventative measure. nhs gp dr. veena babu is urging parents to be on the for symptoms. if you're a parent with a young child look up, the symptoms have , a look at google symptoms have, a look at google images of what the skin rashes look like. have the information at your fingertips. if you can't hold of your gp there's one, one, one. most practises have either console text messages telephone , calls. worst case telephone, calls. worst case scenario and your child is unwell. of course. take them, aimee. and the paediatric department will help. so i think as parents you need to empower yourself with the information and act quickly . seven more and act quickly. seven more cases of diphtheria have been recorded among migrants england, bringing the total for the year to 57. the uk health security agency published the figures following reports of fresh cases at ftx processing centre in kent. the cases discovered between november 28 and december 4th, marking an increase from the previous week were only five new cases were diagnosed last week. the immigration minister

mps that asylum seekers with diphtheria symptoms would put into isolation . england's head into isolation. england's head coach eddie jones has been sacked after seven years in the job. under his leadership, the engush job. under his leadership, the english team took three six nafions english team took three six nations titles and to the final of the 2019 world cup in japan . of the 2019 world cup in japan. however, this season has been england's worst performance since 2008. his former number two, leicester's director of rugby steve buick, has been tipped to replace him on tv onune tipped to replace him on tv online and on disney plus radio. this is the people's channel gb news. back now, the chiefs have come . come. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry keeping you company through till 7:00 tonight alongside me. i've got dominique , the writer and broadcaster and

the journalist and political commentator, joe phillips. good evening, ladies. ladies night. i like it. you the drill. so it goes well. it's not just about us here tonight. it's about you at home as well. what's on your mind tonight? i want all of your thoughts to just i want to talk about strappy. i want to talk about strappy. i want to talk about post—covid lockdown. some people calling them 15 minutes cities. great idea if you ask me in a little bit way when it comes to how are you going to enforce them, should someone be able to tell you often you can leave your own zone and go? that was a tough from my accent. anyway, i have is the short anyway, i have no is the short answer to you shouldn't answer to me. no, you shouldn't be do that. i want to be able to do that. i want to talk about royals meeting talk about the royals meeting with lady. they claim is with the lady. they claim is that the kind of the future now or is that kind of the royals bowing pressure and, bowing public pressure and, striking over christmas ? man, we striking over christmas? man, we had enough of our christmas plans being interrupted last time by the government this time by strikers . are you still on by strikers. are you still on the side of the striker? you

think it is all just a fight, actually, because a lot of people struggling in this day and give me all your thoughts. do you view that gbnews.uk. you can tweet as well at gb news. many of you pointing out, by the way, it's not just that doing these of 50 minute cities, someone else has been in touch with their city as well is doing something similar as a trial is yours. tell me what your thoughts on that. but first of all, i've got to say one of the most important stories certainly to personally a mum, to to personally as a mum, to a young and i suspect if you have a young child yourself or a young granddaughter this will a young child yourself or a yothigh randdaughter this will a young child yourself or a yothigh on ddaughter this will a young child yourself or a yothigh on yourghter this will a young child yourself or a yothigh on your agenda his will a young child yourself or a yothigh on your agenda as will a young child yourself or a yothigh on your agenda as well, be high on your agenda as well, of course, because children a confirmed to have died from strep a in recent weeks. the latest one in just been hearing the news that a five year old who sadly passed away belfast. i mean, can you imagine what these parents must be going through? the health secretary, steve barclay , believes the rise in barclay, believes the rise in infections is a consequence of covid lockdowns . let's have covid lockdowns. let's have a listen. we are seeing an earlier

peak than usual in terms of cases these cases . and we cases these cases. and we believe this is due to lower exposure during the pandemic which is that meant to lower immunity? the reasons new strain , interesting stuff . dominic, , interesting stuff. dominic, your thoughts on of the i think it's unforgiving and despicable the people will sold this lie about the effectiveness of lockdowns and those that were opposed this and warned that it would lead excess deaths it would lead excess deaths it would lead excess deaths it would lead to people being more susceptible to actually more serious illnesses. we were shut down as conspiracy theorists as granny killers . but as we're granny killers. but as we're seeing now , we've got children seeing now, we've got children dying of a when we know that they wouldn't have been as susceptible to such illnesses , susceptible to such illnesses, they were actually allowed to mix with other children. we've got the likes of chris whitty admitting now that excess deaths are as result of our covid

pandemic response , aka lockdowns pandemic response, aka lockdowns that more people are going to be dying of cancer, for example. so feel like people like me not to score , but we were sort of right score, but we were sort of right in a way, and it's just that people have to die excessive for that point to. be proven. yeah. and i've had someone, i must say i've lost a name because lots of emails fly in and it gets mushed around. but i've someone that's going to my inbox saying, oh, michelle, are you talking anti—lockdown and stuff yet again? i've got to be honest. yeah, i am. quite frankly, the i think this is such an important topic because going forward we're , going to have other we're, going to have other ailments, we're going to have other situations and i think is so crucial to have these kind of conversations because i don't think should ever ever think we should ever sleep ever again these whole blanket again into these whole blanket lockdowns with pretty much zero consideration for the consequences. unintended course. i don't think anyone would intend for this to, but the

unintended consequence is and the knock on effects these things. where do you stand on it? joe well, i don't want to go.the it? joe well, i don't want to go. the houses again on lockdown or not, because i think, you know, with we would perhaps all that things might have been different and i think you know the covid inquiry when it publishes its full will show properly one hopes the true effects of it and yes it is inevitable that people were going to not be able to see doctors not able to get treatment during lockdown . i treatment during lockdown. i think just to put it into context the thing that worries me most about, context the thing that worries me most about , this strep and me most about, this strep and these tragic deaths of these children is strep a is the health expert was saying earlier in the news bulletin , you know, in the news bulletin, you know, it's not unusual, but it is unusual for it to become fatal. but what's really worrying is that there is a shortage of penicillin and. there is an idea that's been around today by health ministers that . perhaps

health ministers that. perhaps there would be a of a blanket antibiotic treatment of whole year groups in schools. well coming up to the end of the school term for the christmas holidays. so whether or not that happens remains to be seen. but if you've got shortage of penicillin and you then using amoxicillin and i'm sure there'll be somebody out there who's medical expert who will correct me , i'm wrong on this correct me, i'm wrong on this that also used to treat things like bronchial pneumonia. what is worrying is that if we have a problem and, you know, not again to go back through lockdown, but where is the planning for events like this where you need suppues like this where you need supplies of medicine and you need to react quickly ? and the need to react quickly? and the other problem, of course, is know, can people and you know, my children are grown now, but as any parent with , young kids, as any parent with, young kids, you worry about the slightly thing whether it's going to turn into something deadly you know do you go straight to do you call the doctor do you go back

home? well, everything's backlogged though and so you can't you can't talk about this issue without talking the issue of lockdown. it take hindsight for many people, including my medical professionals, to say that this actually wasn't the right approach , knowing now, as right approach, knowing now, as you've said, we've got a shortage of penicillin. if people want to take the kids to go see a gp, they're going to unless they decide to private. so actually think we do have so i actually think we do have to about it's not rehashing to talk about it's not rehashing it, but it's making sure that those such dangerous and those that such a dangerous and harmful policy held and we must make sure it doesn't happen again because it didn't take a genius to work out what collateral damage would be. you don't have to be an expert, you just have to be so myself. but also you don't have to be a genius to be. it's to work out the all local authorities and government, including all the emergency services, regular have crisis management planning, training and all that was talked about you know whether was a

terror attack. nobody saw covid coming until it was sort of there in china and then coming over across to europe. well but nobody has ever bothered successive governments have not implemented the recommendations that have come out of those exercises. we've heard kate bingham head of the vaccine taskforce was last week giving evidence in parliament saying why are they now dismantled saying the one thing that we did get right which was get the vaccines and get them out quickly, whether or not you agree with the vaccines. but we did it quickly and we managed to get something that was working a better than other countries in the world and i just think you know we've a government that's selling stuff they've sold off that oxford centre , they've sold that oxford centre, they've sold it to the americans that , it to the americans that, dismantling it. they're dismantling it. they're dismantling, dismantling it. they're dismantling , talking about dismantling, talking about dismantling, talking about dismantling the covid fraud taskforce . we've got a shortage taskforce. we've got a shortage of penicillin . we knew that we of penicillin. we knew that we were going to have shortages of just nothing. has been done to

try and prevent those . yeah, i try and prevent those. yeah, i would agree with that . yeah. i would agree with that. yeah. i mean, it is if we agree, that's awful. we've got to go now. yeah well, that's obsolete . i well, that's obsolete. i wouldn't, i wouldn't to that but now it is it's worrying because as a mom , you know, it's awful. as a mom, you know, it's awful. yeah. you've got to trust your mother's instincts . you've got mother's instincts. you've got to trust your mother's instinct. and it used to be the if your kid was ill, you could pick up the phone. you know, let's hope we never need to. but you could pick up the phone. you could get an ambulance get your an ambulance and could get your child hospital. hopefully child to a hospital. hopefully treated. even that now , you treated. but even that now, you cannot that for granted . cannot take that for granted. service is going to be available. you know, of the available. you know, one of the one of the children who has is, i believe, still intensive care was taken to hospital, was admitted to hospital. but having been sent home from hospital with steroids . so, you know, with steroids. so, you know, there's no guarantee , you know, there's no guarantee, you know, when you're a parent, there is nothing nothing that churns you

up more than thinking, is this sniffle going to turn something else? is this rush men enjoy it. is this going to you know, it's awful. you know, i understand about this whole kind of ambulance backlog and the bed space. i'm sure someone somewhere will tell me why this is not happening. but to me, the most sense approach here, a lot of people are turning out. they can't offload patients because there's bed space. of the there's no bed space. one of the reasons there's bed space reasons there's no bed space because an awful lot of because there's an awful lot of it across town, but i'll it sounds across town, but i'll use blockers people use anyway blockers the people that medically well enough that are medically well enough to be discharged but they're not able to discharged . so then able to be discharged. so then i can't help think , why can't help but think, why haven't a situation where haven't we got a situation where we've effectively replicated so called nightingale hospital? you've built you built these nightingale hospitals. you don't need intensely medical staff because a lot of these people are not medically, desperately . are not medically, desperately. you need something like the old fashioned cottage where people you need something like the old fashiare d cottage where people you need something like the old fashiare not,:tage where people you need something like the old fashiare not, you�* where people you need something like the old fashiare not, you know,e people you need something like the old fashiare not, you know, maybe; who are not, you know, maybe need a little bit of help, parts of their personal care are a bit unsteady on their feet or

they've got limbs in plaster or whatever you need that house place, but you need the staff. michel and we haven't got the staff. yeah. yes you can recruit. this is what i'm not getting. well, you help recruit. if somebody is not unwell, i.e. you don't to be in hospitals. and i'm talking about sick people, i'm talking about people that need to be in that don't need to be in hospital be hospital. they cannot be discharged services discharged because the services are not available to them. if those can be relocated to those people can be relocated to say, let's call it the nightingale hospital, say, let's call it the nightingale hospital , they're nightingale hospital, they're not desperately unwell. so the staff you need, they're not, you know, intensely medical there's a shortage of people working in care homes and, you know, the care homes and, you know, the care that goes out there's also an awful lot of unemployed people. so what are they doing? what they having? so we didn't suck thousands for not taking the vaccine. so think you've also got, you know, people who are their carers going into people's homes they're on minimum wage very often in many, many cases they're having drive from place to place to have got

very short time to see people. they might be the only person that elderly or vulnerable person sees throughout day. they're having to do . they're they're having to do. they're getting paid $0.25 a mile to drive their own car . getting paid $0.25 a mile to drive their own car. and i mean, would you do that? no go and work in ten ways. why so ? why work in ten ways. why so? why don't why do we treat the people that we need so much, so and then why are we surprised when people like firefighters and nurses and rail staff go on? you make a very good point, nurses and rail staff go on? you make a very good point , joe make a very good point, joe phillips. and i'll be coming to the strikes by the at the end of the strikes by the at the end of the programme. i want your thoughts on some of these strikes. your christmas is potentially be impacted potentially going to be impacted now are someone that now if you are someone that wants to travel to see your loved ones you struggle the loved ones you struggle if the strikes are you okay strikes go ahead as are you okay with you on the side of the with that you on the side of the strikers the reasons we've strikers for the reasons we've just been discussing. me just been discussing. tell me your thoughts. going your thoughts. i'm going to take a break. come back, a quick break. when i come back, i some of your feedback on i love some of your feedback on that first topic and also over in they're going in oxford, they're going to they've 15 minute city they've got this 15 minute city concept. fine, not problem.

concept. fine, not a problem. sounds everything sounds i have everything you need on the doorstep, but should they go to restrict you from leaving 15 minutes city? leaving said 15 minutes city? tell me thoughts and i'll see you in a couple of minutes.

hello there. welcome back to with me michelle dewberry. keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening alongside dominique samuels, the writer and the broadcaster and political commentator . phillips political commentator. phillips welcome back, everybody . lots of welcome back, everybody. lots of you are in contact about that first topic, which says, yes, michelle lockdowns are responsible for strep. if lockdowns weaken people's immunity, they should never have happened , he says. i am one of happened, he says. i am one of the vulnerable. the lockdown was meant save. i'm 69 years old now . oh, this is it. you say would rather have died rather than

just have a lockdown because you feel you would have preferred to save young children. you say you've had life, your life and the children's are just beginning goodness me delia has just in saying michelle my views of oh 35 year old granddaughter daughter died of strep a yesterday leaving three children aged two four and six. we are devastated a family, she says. please can you make it known to people, to adults as well as children can can contract this goodness ? i'm sorry to hear goodness? i'm sorry to hear that. and i have to say i haven't even entered my thoughts about adults . so of course about adults. so of course thoughts with anyone that is affected by this . right. let's affected by this. right. let's move on to oxford do you live there? have you been there? i have this beautiful place about to get less beautiful, perhaps you live there because they've approved trial scheme now basically to divide city open to six what they call 15 minute neighbourhoods . six what they call 15 minute neighbourhoods. i have six what they call 15 minute neighbourhoods . i have to say neighbourhoods. i have to say i the concepts of a 15 minute neighbourhood because basically

what means is anything that you need will be 15 minutes away. a brilliant you can get into it anyway but yeah great concept but how do you kind of control this places should you even be attempting to police and control 7 attempting to police and control ? when start talking like ? when you start talking like that, cross the line for me, that, you cross the line for me, i've to say anyway, these i've got to say anyway, these zones, if want to cross zones, you're going to be restricted to a hundred trips per year your car is going to be have know the registration number attention to monitored by cameras and you could find if indeed you do breach the 100 trips per year. beware to me, i wouldn't be happy with that. but jeff phillips, it's got a bit of a whiff of big brother about it. a bit just a bit. i mean, this seems to 15 minute cities have been talked about for a long time and they are a brilliant idea, as you say, if you can in fact make them work. and that popular in continental europe where they have a much better approach to generally that trying to do the same thing in canterbury, near where i live . canterbury, near where i live. and it's frankly not as extreme

as this in oxford, but it's quite ridiculous because to get from one side of the city to another to school, say all to railway station, you're going to go three zones. the thing about oxford that i saw something about , they want to have some about, they want to have some sort of electronic gates. i think point well, i've got to say , in fairness, i was looking say, in fairness, i was looking at one of the councils involved in and she was actually saying the on places like twitter that that has all been misrepresented. and these would these electric gates are for not cars it's more about buses and things like that. so you know that well, if that's them, that's what she was saying. dominate. where are you on it? i just think these sorts of control address stop in control tactics address stop in the name environmentalism. but i think it's authoritarianism if being honest it's about controlling it's about tracking . we know that people's number plates are going to be tracked to make sure that they're taking these specific of trips a year .

these specific of trips a year. and unless people actually start saying, no, hang on a minute , i saying, no, hang on a minute, i don't want to be in a form of lockdown to save the planet then these things are going to continue to happen. the travel chief oxford council said it's going to happen whether people like it or not, but to me it doesn't sound very democratic at all. yeah, because the point you're making now, they had a vote on this. i think it's only 20, from and then 20, not from november. and then an before that's the an interview before that's the president referring did president were referring to did say something along. the lines of going to happen, of this is going to happen, which not, as you say very which is not, as you say very democrat this is. i just democrat and this is. can i just just last point and this just one last point and this isn't just, you know, one thing about the, quote, 15 minute city people referring referring people are referring referring to as a climate lockdown . i to it as a climate lockdown. i think what it is. but think that's what it is. but there are people that are far more . there's one more extreme. there's one company arup and it's company called arup and it's being praised . the world being praised. the world economic forum's website . economic forum's website. they've even they've suggested things like this, but they've even suggested things like people being allowed to people only being allowed to purchase a limited amount of clothes per year . all of

purchase a limited amount of clothes per year. all of this is dropped in this idea that we need to save the planet, you'd be stupid if you think that billionaires the super rich suddenly care about the planet. well, they really want is control and they want to line their own pockets and we are going to suffer as a result. well, i won't be suffering as a result because i wouldn't actually let dictate to me how many clothes i and can't buy many clothes i can and can't buy and where and can't go. and where i can and can't go. and i this quite interesting, but i almost feel like we slept walked inch by inch by inch by inch, things that we would ordinarily throw have been about like rejected straight up. we've almost become kind of i don't know how, i use the frog in the in the water analogy when you're boiling it up and obviously don't realise dying. and just don't realise dying. and i just think how it got to the point where somebody a councillor, whoever can say to you if you want to leave your zone you've got to apply for a penny. i mean thatis got to apply for a penny. i mean that is it's and i think the point that dominique just made about how are trying to monetise

this in the name greenwashing or whatever it is you know yes of course lots of people buy too much stuff , but the way to stop much stuff, but the way to stop thatis much stuff, but the way to stop that is through and say, actually, you know, it would be much better to use second hand or recycle. make sure that you close it. you don't want go to charity shops or get repurpose. there are other ways around it the same of course we need the same this of course we need to our cities much less to make our cities much less polluted and much more car free. i mean, we've talking about children's and you know, children's health and you know, we know very from the inquest in the little girl who lived in london that, you know, the traffic pollution, the road where she lived was directly for her death. but know there are ways of doing it. you actually. alright, well we're going to ban cars completely but all public within the city centre . so within the city centre. so you're going to find cop. will you're going to find cop. will you put that is no more extreme . you can say we're going to ban residents having cars . let's see residents having cars. let's see this is the thing this is the

thing and this why i think people that to the sort of labour green agenda genuinely kind of dangerous i'm being honest because you sort of project your idea of what's moral and what's right the people and users an excuse to take away their rights throughout history that's never ended well it's ended with authority in regimes where millions of people have died. if i to use a car, millions of people have died. if ito use a car, i think i should be able to use a car and i and i understand, you know . this is understand, you know. this is the thing genuine . issues get the thing genuine. issues get wrapped up and like sort of manipulated and then they are used to justify extreme measures. i agree the pollution isn't the best thing and we should be making efforts to reduce it. but i do not agree with assigning to zones controlling where they can shop, controlling where they can shop, controlling where they can shop, controlling where their kids go to school, banning them from using car are ways to using car are other ways to think it . i using car are other ways to think it. i mean, this, i think about it. i mean, this, i think about it. i mean, this, i

think too authoritarian . but think is too authoritarian. but then said you could cars then you said you could ban cars . well, i'm just saying, look at things. are city centres . things. there are city centres. i just come back from i mean, i've just come back from florence a little while ago, there are private cars in the there are no private cars in the city. and you know, the roads an absolute delight to walk down delivery vehicles, get in and out people can drive , you know, out people can drive, you know, dunng out people can drive, you know, during certain periods of the day. but during the daytime, it's , you know, it's pedestrian. it's, you know, it's pedestrian. i don't mind these pedestrianised zones. well, the nice but they are not someone telling me. no, you can't have a car. i would literally tell on your bike i that's one of the problems in society there's the people are so called in charge of a step in your mark a little bit quite frankly. but then you get the people who park on pavements and you say, well, did you see what? well, did you see what happened? some of those guys it want to say it's guys was it i want to say it's in manchester. i do not condone this. the way, i but this. by the way, i but i understand. yes. few pavement park as you know park as if you don't know what we're talking about. a lot of people along to set cars

people went along to set cars smashed windows spray smashed their windows and spray painted move on their bonnets and i not condone that of course it be chuckle tastic trick for people tell me trick in tell me you know no shopping i want to share this with everybody all right what they this definitely cannot go away now i'm going to come back in 2 minutes, but for nothing else. joe has got a trick she wants to unveil and share with nation. also alongside joe's. want share with nation. also alongside joe's . want talk alongside joe's. i want to talk about family i should about the royal family i should say charles meeting the say king charles b, meeting the lady claims racism. i'm not lady that claims racism. i'm not either just bowing to public pressure also the strikes where do you stand on them over the christmas period. see you in a couple of minutes .

hello welcome back to dewbs & co hello welcome back to dewbs& co me michelle dewberry until 7:00. i do chuckle sometimes it's me

or emails i have to say, but some of them i can't. it's only satan anyway, i'm with you till 7:00 tonight alongside dominic samuels, the writer and the broadcaster and the political commentator, phillips , who commentator, joe phillips, who before the break was just talking about these 50 minute cities, climate lockdowns, all the rest of it, whatever you want to call it. joe said she's got a trick that she wants to share with the nation. cassandra this is about people were this is about people who we were talking oh talking about pavement. paul oh yeah. talking about pavement. paul oh yeah . so where live outside my yeah. so where i live outside my house, along road there house, all along the road there are to be a short trek, are it's got to be a short trek, by the way. okay yeah. parking. no parking. no parking, no parking. yeah. every again you get every now and again you get somebody, they stop their 5 minutes. it's okay. it's sometimes find people parked sometimes you find people parked there day so there all day long. so i discovered that the best thing to is your very best to do is in your very best handwrite on a large piece handwrite write on a large piece papen handwrite write on a large piece paper. there some very paper. there are some very opticians locally as you clearly can't read and it on the windscreen that i'll tell you is marmalade that oh not criminal damage or something that to do any damage but not make them cross well so they did that is a

trick they do deal with a little bit harsher as i've just been saying i think it was in manchester but just don't mess around gets a large piece of paper right on it and you can see basically sticks it with marmalade some of marmalade marmalade some of it marmalade well anything will do. i mean you can use golden syrup, you can chutneys are can use chutney, chutneys are a bit chunky. you can say who's middle class this? but it's not me, darling chutney. me, darling you can use chutney. got some available? yeah. i'll just go into my pantry, help my chutney and i'll smear it all over that windscreen . i will over that windscreen. i will tell my pockets. right. so tell them my pockets. right. so that was a good thanks for sharing . anyway, let's move on, sharing. anyway, let's move on, shall we? king charles and queen camilla have invited the charity . it's good to meet them at buckingham. this is, of course, all about that . you know, the all about that. you know, the whole racism row where she was asked where she was from and all the rest of it anyway. dominic samuels, is this what king charles should be doing with his time one of the time or is this one of the royals bowing down to pressure? it feel , like the royal it is. i feel, like the royal

family, really desperate family, is just really desperate to go woke and think that's why they've ultimately bowed down they've ultimately bowed down the mainstream media pressure so quickly by having lady josie resign the lady who is accused of being racist to goes the fulani, the charity worker who was attending an event without so much an investigation, by the way , this sort of thing is way, this sort of thing is sinister. it's concerning and what's sort of ironic is that the royal family under charles so desperate to sort of pander to these left wing groups, that would be very to see the royal family not exist. those that ardent supporters of the royal family the ones i've spoken to anyway, feel really uncomfortable with the way lady hussey been treated. i personally think that she's this bigoted , that she's been painted bigoted, that she's been painted out to , and i don't think that out to, and i don't think that she should have been tossed to the wolves like that. at least have an investigation. but was just a puppy and now these are in talks with the woman who calls the whole issue and

basically had the media set upon this old woman. i think is bizarre and cruel actually thinks it's bizarre and cruel. do you agree? no i think they were if they did and if they didn't. i mean the whole thing. unfortunate is overshadowed. i mean, talk woke with harry and meghan and this ridicule this netflix series your newborn . are netflix series your newborn. are you going to watch it, though? no probably not. i mean, i i'm so bored with this self—indulgent meme me. pull me, pull me, pull me. and i think it's deeply insulting not to just his father, his brother , just his father, his brother, his sister in law, his late grandmother. it's also to quite a lot of people in this country. i was in lambeth when they were engaged and they came down to brixton and the crowds were out , you know, 7:00 in the morning queuing . see meghan and the queuing. see meghan and the welcome that she got could have

been warmer and, kinder and full of love . i just think that the of love. i just think that the way they've and the way they run this double life of hypocrisy on their climate . but we're taking their climate. but we're taking private jets . you know, we live private jets. you know, we live in this great big mansion, but we're going to do this and the other for charity, you know, all of this guff about empowering . of this guff about empowering. she could have had a role in doing some really good stuff and the idea that she didn't know what she was marrying into is a boxes as letting this mog read the news . do you think they the news. do you think they should keep the titles. no i don't think they should keep the titles, but i wrote in a column for the express, it's in the paper today . and i was saying paper today. and i was saying similar to you i think they're actually hypocrites because they claim to be about truth , love, claim to be about truth, love, about inclusivity you know harry and meghan on on bothered all the royal pomp and ceremony but the royal pomp and ceremony but the reality is that need the titles in order to remain

interesting to likes of spotify and netflix and in order for them to survive additionally they need the division they need they need the division they need the anger. you can see that with the anger. you can see that with the sort of race inspired screeching debates that constantly taking place at home. these two are concerned they are contradictions . and i think the contradictions. and i think the royal family do sort of need grow a backbone in this sense, because unless they actually start saying something back, they're going to keep tearing chunks . they're going to chunks. they're going to continue and continue. don't continue and continue. i don't think harry and meghan are finished the royal family finished with the royal family in sense of word. isn't in any sense of the word. isn't that the point, though, dominic, with dealt with with way that they dealt with lady in a way is lady susan hussey in a way is because if they said we'll have an investigation there would have been people saying, oh, the royal is racist and you're going to get with meghan harry to get netflix with meghan harry claiming that apparently so they had to do something and condemn it so do you think she was a scapegoat then ? she definitely i scapegoat then? she definitely i don't. i mean i wasn't there. you weren't there. you weren't

there. all i know is i have heard from people who were there ngozi fulani as well and the people that would then bury all that you can transcribe word for word, even . but even in the word, even. but even in the conversation given that she posted the transcripts, it sounded like when lady hussey was asking the questions, it sounded and goes. it was literally on the defence from the get go. i've been in i've seen it where asks where you from and a lot of ethnic minorities instinctively feel they're under attack so they feel the need to sort be on the offence . i think from what she offence. i think from what she said, i think probably sensed it and was probably with a bit about sort of the impression i have. and the trouble is unless you can hear it and unless you witness. so i'm not quite sure why we keep saying thing out of us. all right good humour or whatever, but lady susan hussy is your average 83 year old. she has been around the royal family

many, many decades. she knows how to behave and. she you know, if you thought somebody was uncomfortable with the way you were talking to them, even if you didn't mean any offence , you you didn't mean any offence, you should have had enough. grace manners to go back. we even heard from lady hussey, by the way . but i should heard from lady hussey, by the way. but i should imagine she's got a bit more and she's going to keep her mouth shut. yeah, right. so i find that real right. so i find that a real shame because kind of shame because people kind of come make these come out and make these allegations world turns allegations the world turns against them and then don't against them and then they don't really opportunity , really get the opportunity, nancy, be able to put their nancy, to be able to put their side story. so it's this side of the story. so it's this whole harry and meghan thing . i whole harry and meghan thing. i mean, you guys hate the royal mean, if you guys hate the royal so why don't you volunteer so much, why don't you volunteer to give up your own title and finally get volunteering to go get on with your life and move on.and get on with your life and move on. and then the travesty of it is, people these say harry and meghan, they their things saying they're things then thing they're saying things then thing and then the royal because they dignified them the position that the that the dirt respond and so that's what i mean so they're if

they do and they're if they don't. and you know, what was the queen's never complain, never explain i just think, you never explain. i just think, you know, i think charles will do an interview there off the back of this netflix thing? no i shouldn't think so. right well, maybe i would imagine he'll refer to it in his christmas to you. yes but then today, what did he say, his last message when he was saying said, i love it. he loves these songs . he it. he loves these songs. he wishes them all. i mean, i'm yeah, he i mean, he did talk about it and i think he said something families and something but i'm sure when he does his king's christmas message , he king's christmas message, he will refer to families. the trouble is, you know, we've got problems. every families got problems. every families got problems and schisms and things. but this is public. and as dominic says, they're making so much out of it. that's so distasteful . and why don't you distasteful. and why don't you know and they're only because they're not any longer . and know and they're only because they're not any longer. and i think i mean, i'm sure we would

have a completely different conversation if we were sitting in america , you know. oh, that in america, you know. oh, that fans are insane and robin ricans do thing you know we're in appalling country and we're completely racist and that's the thing that's what they've actually cultivate and they know they've helped cultivate that because fuels their desire for revenge . you know, if you are revenge. you know, if you are truly about, you know, the work, the goodness, the truth , the the goodness, the truth, the piece. then your actions should inspire certain kind of response. what inspire the opposite? what do want apart from money? well i think you've hit the nail on the head that. what? i mean, i hate my family so much that i'm going to make a fortune talking about their. i mean. it's all very odd to me if you don't the family disown change your name get rid your titles, crack on with your life you know you could always get a job you don't have to die you go make chutney and smear it on the windscreens of the pavement packers you to take a quick packers near you to take a quick break when i come back talk

break when i come back and talk to you about strikes now of course room the course there's room at the christmas be disrupted christmas could be disrupted because strikes you know i've got to say we've had disrupted a couple times now haven't we? surely it's time to move on from all of that, it. or do all of that, isn't it. or do back the strike. do you side them that what they're them and think that what they're doing loosely justified? doing is up loosely justified? tell thoughts and i'll tell me your thoughts and i'll see in a couple of minutes .

coming up on dan wootton tonight all rail unions, heartless for trying to destroy our first christmas of freedom after the pandemic plus danielle meet the man on a mission to overhaul our broken immigration nick timothy there's opinion galore from kelvin mackenzie and reform uk's richard tice and top columnist sarah vine battles ex—royal butler, paul burrow over harry and meghan misinformation that's dan wootton tonight 9 pm. to 11 pm. on gb news news. hello

there. welcome back to dewbs& co. there. welcome back to dewbs& c0. with there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me michelle dewberry. lots of you writing in about that story. the army that prince william should a response interview charge a couple of million pounds for internet to charity . but really is that what charity. but really is that what you want to say i don't want to see that. i think actually thought of two brothers well two siblings anyway i think fighting and arguing and being separate that makes me incredibly sad actually and i think that sometimes i said it but when they go low you go high all laughs i'm sure i could bite my tongue so much if people saying that stuff about me but celia is going to be better. i tell you what dignity a rare thing and it seems to be getting even rarer in today's societies. celia says , michelle. all the media should ignore . and then maybe then they ignore. and then maybe then they would stop . i don't see that would stop. i don't see that happening, though, do you ? you happening, though, do you? you see media ignoring them, see the media ignoring them, although way we see the

although the way we see the netflix trade off the media shots they there, shots that they put in there, it's not media focusing it's not even the media focusing them. you see that's a them. did you see that's a little you ask me, little bit where if you ask me, alan says , michelle, have you or alan says, michelle, have you or any of your read 1984 by george orwell love coming true is it coming true ? yeah alan reckons coming true? yeah alan reckons it is 1984. yes, some of it, you know, brave new world, all of those things. they were very prescient, brave new world, stupid new world. anyway move on, shall we? dominic. samuel sorry, the rise from broadcaster is alongside and the political commentator joe phillips is alongside and the political commentatorjoe phillips in commentator joe phillips in you've just tuned in you wondering who you can hear. that's who it is. right. let's ambulance so we will ambulance strike. so we will general. generally because we've touched on this we there's lots of strikes pretty much strike in these days anyway it's all started to be a lot more coordinated . but now that we're coordinated. but now that we're heanng coordinated. but now that we're hearing rmt union, we'll walk potentially at 6:00 on christmas eve until the 27th of december, disrupt the travel plans of , disrupt the travel plans of, many over christmas . jeff

many over christmas. jeff phillips, some opinions on this, but i know you have got well, they're going to be disrupting that many travel plans because the trains have always stopped about christmas eve. about 6:00 on christmas eve. there never any trains there are never any trains running christmas day and, running on christmas day and, very, few on boxing day . very, very few on boxing day. what disrupted is the what might be disrupted is the engineer work that place engineer work that takes place over the period i mean, if we look at the people who are going on strike , people who work on on strike, people who work on the railways , postmen and women, the railways, postmen and women, nurse , ambulance workers , bus nurse, ambulance workers, bus drivers and bus staff, highway workers, teachers and baggage handlers, most of these people are the people that some people were out clapping for during covid. they're the people who kept going and most of them have been offered an absolutely appalling pay deal. they've working for less money . they've working for less money. they've seen their real wages , rather seen their real wages, rather real pay decrease since 2014. the government are trying to pitch this as something into the

19705 pitch this as something into the 1970s because they know that their core audience of the conservative party love to go back to the 1970s and the lazy reporting about union barons and holding the country to ransom . holding the country to ransom. so what do you think this should give then, joe? i think they should sit down and talk to them, but i've done that and they've offered them 8% over two years. so that's 4. that isn't even half the rate of inflation . but what do you think they should give them? that's my i think they should talk to them about an inflation about looking at an inflation unked about looking at an inflation linked pay offer with no redundant or no forced redundancy. so ten plus percent if necessary and no false redundancies . so you think it's redundancies. so you think it's fair for an organisation to be able to evolve with the times if they need to know , not saying they need to know, not saying that at all. but if you look at profits that the private there have been deals done, michel. there have been deals done . the there have been deals done. the government is putting the blame on the unions because they're not willing. i mean, up until

now , this is the first time that now, this is the first time that anybody's actually sat down and to the rmt this is the first time in 106 years of its history that the royal college of nursing has voted to go on strike paramount national strike workers . my son's strike paramount national strike workers. my son's a paramedic. these do not take this action lightly. so when you or other people say this is about disrupting christmas, these have kept going for years and years and years and the reason part of the is that the organisation that they work for particularly the national health are broken and they're striking not just pay and they're striking not just pay it's about working conditions. well fair play to you because time i ask someone what do you think they should get the don't seem to be able to give me an so you're saying inflation every pay rise so you think that every public sector worker much knows this worker pretty much knows this private well a public private sector as well a public worker that can worker you think that we can afford 10% plus pay rises for every public sector companies. the royal mail, a number you

mentioned, you sold the paramedic. so i'm saying let's part private company can do what they want. i'm asking public sector 10% plus do you think little over let's have a think about how money we spend on and trace £39 billion. yeah appalling . not a penny of it. appalling. not a penny of it. come back. how many billions spent and given to cronies and mates on the vvip ? fast track mates on the vvip? fast track for dodgy ppe and other deals that have not been clawed back. we found the money for that when we needed it, we need pay these what we found for a lot but we need to dominate the to be honest i, i kind of dislike talking about strikes because why the thing sort of makes me suspicious because feel as though strikes have been sort of conveniently as this really polarise housing debate where you know the left and the right attack each other. you know you're shirkers want to bring down the government versus this you know you're cruel people

that don't believe in one's rights strike. well i do think a middle ground in all of this and i think is where i stunned the i acknowledge that some of the pay rises that are being asked for example, i think nurses are for 15. i mean, i don't think that is necessarily reasonable into consideration. the economic outlook. but at the same , i do outlook. but at the same, i do think that our services and the people that work for things , people that work for things, royal mail, i don't think they have actually been treated very well and it's just the fact that their pay hasn't risen enough and in recent years which is why at a time of high inflation they're saying actually is enough now because they can't so do that that strikers are inconvenient ordinary people. they are ordinary people with the coordinated nature of a lot of this union is talking to each other, coordinating a lot of these strikes to bring maximum

pay these strikes to bring maximum pay to in people that are not involved, not cops. so you know anyway , i heard that nobody anyway, i heard that nobody wants to go on strike, michel. nobody wants to on strike. they lose money for start. they have to go through sorts of hoops. in fact, one my way here through fact, one on my way here through westminster, rally westminster, there was a rally of fire brigades union and of the fire brigades union and the speaker i don't know who he was because i wasn't there for the whole. but talking about the hoops that they have to go through order to get a ballot through in order to get a ballot that meets, i think, you know, they're not allowed to vote for a ballot electronically, even though. that's we've ended though. that's how we've ended up prime minister we up with a prime minister we didn't electronic didn't vote for electronic voting something me voting. well, something tells me this whole strike conversation will rumble on and on and on because because let's face it, whatever side of the argument you're on. no one can deny that. actually, this is a very sad situation of is to situation that all of this is to this and that the countries in the state that it's in, because ultimately everyone just wants to work, earn living, to go to work, earn a living, and to able to provide for and to be able to provide for their family so their family that day. so i suspect is not the last suspect this is not the last time talking about it,

time we'll be talking about it, but is the last time for but it is the last time for tonight, because look at the time. joe, dominic, thank you very much for your company. you to laurence fox is to you at home. laurence fox is up in place of nigel. good up next in place of nigel. good evening, have you evening, lawrence. what have you got evening, james? i do got for us evening, james? i do have for actually went have strikes for i actually went to the fire brigade protest today bumped into couple of today and bumped into couple of firemen life. so firemen who saved my life. so we're going to be talking strike strikes strike strike strike strikes strike strike strike strikes then to hollywood, strikes and then to hollywood, oscar nominated . hello again. oscar nominated. hello again. i'm aidan mcgivern from the met office northerly winds are now arriving bringing colder weather but also actually over the next few days plenty of crisp winter sunshine , frosty nights, some sunshine, frosty nights, some ice and in a few spots some snow mostly at the moment that snow is going to be across northern scotland. that's where the strongest the winds are and that's where the coldest of the air is. so heading into the evening. some spells developing across western parts of the uk as well as the south a of a cloud floating about . but we do cloud floating about. but we do get the clear spells

temperatures will fall widely , a temperatures will fall widely, a touch of frost and temperatures a few degrees below . and it's a few degrees below. and it's going to be feeling cold everywhere as we begin wednesday. but it's across northern scotland where we're going to see the risk of snow, some disruption due to that snow through wednesday with it building up at lower levels, 2 to 5 centimetres is 5 to 10 centimetres. if not more. over the hills , there will be some the hills, there will be some showers rolling down the east of england and affecting northern ireland. these are mostly rain with hills, though mixed in elsewhere across the uk. maybe chilly, but bright blue skies , chilly, but bright blue skies, winter sunshine and temperatures that around five or six in the south, three or four further north over high parts of scotland . that snow setting in, scotland. that snow setting in, it's going to be very and through thursday hours temperatures in some spots dipping into the minus double digits, but a widespread frost nevertheless across the uk, around western coast where we keep showers going as well as the east coast, some icy to

start off thursday and in sheltered spots, temperatures is getting down to minus six, minus seven celsius if not lower . then seven celsius if not lower. then as we begin thursday , there are as we begin thursday, there are some areas of rain, sleet and snow around one pushing into parts of north into northern england and. the north midlands could bring some settling for a time and the showers continue for the north of scotland . well, for the north of scotland. well, in between, plenty of sunshine , in between, plenty of sunshine, but staying cold into the weekend .

good evening . tonight on for us good evening. tonight on for us with me, laurence fox . i'm in with me, laurence fox. i'm in a bit of a conundrum . usually i bit of a conundrum. usually i have a pretty solid on fairly much everything tonight. i am