headliners is on the way. but first, here's the latest news with me, right, addison .7 downing with me, right, addison? downing street has declined to reveal if the prime minister is worried about patients dying due to nhs strikes . that's after gmb unison strikes. that's after gmb unison unite unions announced that thousands of ambulance workers and other nhs staff will walk out across england and wales on the 21st and 28th of this month . they say the government is ignonng . they say the government is ignoring workers pleas for a decent pay rise . however, the decent pay rise. however, the health secretary says unions demands are not affordable . demands are not affordable. baroness mon is taking a leave of absence from the house of lords following allegations that she benefits financially from a covered ppe deal. it's alleged that michelle mone and her

children received millions of pounds after. she recommended a company to ministers at the height of the covid 19 pandemic. baroness mone has denied those allegations . stephen flynn has allegations. stephen flynn has been elected as the snp's in westminster. the aberdeen south mp ian blackford with effect. he'll appear at pmqs tomorrow afternoon , questioning rishi afternoon, questioning rishi sunak for the first time. the health secretary has told the house of commons we are seeing an early peak in stress cases than usual, but there is no new strain . at least nine children strain. at least nine children have died from the bacterial infection in the uk since since september. the latest , a five september. the latest, a five year old from belfast . the year old from belfast. the government says antibiotics could be given to children at schools affected strep a as a preventive measure. meanwhile investigation is being carried out into the death of a four year old child in ireland to see if it could be linked to strep a

. seven more cases of diphtheria have been recorded among migrants in england, taking the total for the year to 57. the uk health security agency says they discovered between november 28th and december the fourth. it marks an increase from the previous week when only five new cases were diagnosed. last week the immigration minister told mps that asylum seekers deep, serious symptoms would be put into isolation and in other news. donald trump's real estate company has been found guilty on all counts in a new york fraud trial . the former president's trial. the former president's organisation out a 15 year long criminal scheme of defrauding tax authorities . the judge will tax authorities. the judge will now determine the exact that the company will be fined . however, company will be fined. however, it could be as high as £13 million. on tv, online and on dab plus radio. this is the people's channel. gb news. time now for those headliners .

now for those headliners. hello, welcome to headliners . i'm simon welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans, joining me tonight to harvest wednesdays newspapers the dynamic duo simon fanshawe and louis schaefer. the dynamic duo simon fanshawe and louis schaefer . good and louis schaefer. good evening, gentlemen . so let's evening, gentlemen. so let's charge through the front pages. first of all, we can kick with wednesday's male labour in hock to unions, crippling britain. there's a picture of king charles there, who is very nearly in hock to an egg today. and the sussexes at the top keeping their little narrative ticking over wednesdays. telegraph ambulance unlikely if you fool, elderly told . well, you fool, elderly told. well, that should at least be some sort of deterrent. and the picture there concerning , picture there concerning, revenge, i believe we will see if we can. and pick that one later. wednesday's garden in baroness mone pictured there in her fine ermine robes. she

lobbied for a second firm with secret links to her husband. she is in a whole mess of trouble. financial times sunak pressed to speed up anti strike legislation as industrial action surges and what looks like the sort of info graphic, there is actually an aerial view of some solar panels, i believe stage times, paramedics urged not to risk lives with strike other people's lives. of course , although their lives. of course, although their own might, i suppose, be contingent upon the public not rising up. wednesday's express ambulance strike to put lives at risk continuing on that theme , risk continuing on that theme, king charles is egged again on walkabout and wednesday staff finally are oh so cold. amanda holden has put a coat on but unnecessary those were your front pages . take a look at them front pages. take a look at them in some detail detail. front pages. take a look at them in some detail detail . so we in some detail detail. so we begin with the guardian and a

rags to rose story that has turned rather sour . well, rags to rose story that has turned rather sour. well, this is amazing story. turned rather sour. well, this is amazing story . yes. so, is amazing story. yes. so, baroness mon, you will as a member , the house of lords and member, the house of lords and she is a husband and a husband is called douglas berryman , and is called douglas berryman, and she is already known for lobbying pretty hard for. government ministers for this company called p p metro . but company called p p metro. but she claims all the time that she just lobbied on behalf and then went away and everybody says that's just a bit legitimate. now, what the guardian is saying they've discovered is that there's another called there's another company called elf diagnostics, signifier elf diagnostics, the signifier cancer of this is that she and her husband are both themselves from these two companies and said there's no private benefit it is alleged now the guardian have got a document written by the guy who runs the private office of her husband. yeah. and he guardian alleging he, the guardian is alleging that that document shows that, in fact , they personally in fact, they personally benefited from the profits that came from these companies, which would disgraceful, would be pretty disgraceful, which . i they which it would. i mean, they

because didn't declare because she didn't declare anything second they just because of the way she behaved but thirdly because they keep on saying there's no no and now she is stood down, believe and is attempting to sort of use some parliamentary privilege, essentially house of essentially a sort of house of lords. right. see, lords. that's right. you see, i won't i the next won't do this. so i did the next thing i'm going to have to ask to answer questions. exactly. no, i mean, is pretty no, i mean, it is pretty disgusting. thing that you disgusting. the thing that you could me with on could also help me out with on the page of the the the front page of the at the bottom is this plea to cop 15? yeah, think which is to 27. yeah, i think which is to 27. yeah, i think which is to 27. yeah, that's back a bit. so what's happening there is that the or something? the inner sanctum or something? don't don't don't know. don't i really don't understand. i've made understand. i've i've made a decision i'm not going to decision that i'm not going to talk about climate change because i think completely because i think it's completely irrelevant. it's not important to i don't it to me because i don't think it really i don't think it exists in a major way we need to in a major way that we need to worry about it. we've other problems. and i think that we're just into their hands by just playing into their hands by actually illegitimate. just playing into their hands by actua do illegitimate. just playing into their hands by actua do you illegitimate. just playing into their hands by actua do you think.legitimate. just playing into their hands by actua do you think.legitinthe. what do you think about the government having allowed a certain amount of corruption? it does that pay does seem as that the pay scandal seems to scandal is rumbling. it seems to me extraordinary that johnson scandal is rumbling. it seems to

me eoverrdinary that johnson scandal is rumbling. it seems to me eover party,' that johnson scandal is rumbling. it seems to me eover party, which ohnson scandal is rumbling. it seems to me eover party, which ihnson scandal is rumbling. it seems to me eover party, which i did. n went over party, which i did. i'm afraid i still it was quite trivial, but this kind of stuff this really stinks. well i don't think i think it totally stinks, obviously. but i mean, they brought it on themselves. the the tories brought her on themselves by into a full blown panic over , the panic over this panic over, the panic over this pandemic panic and, and here's the guardian who was promoting the panic full and of course people going to take a vote. of course they're going to be profiteers. it's like war. they make it to wartime is what's interesting about this is that the company the second company that now uncovered was that they've now uncovered was registered a has in february 2021. wow so she took a bit of time to get into it. well, i mean, but the point being is that the first one was was was a bit earlier. but my point being is that these companies are they're it's not like they've had a tradition of testing and ppe. this couple they've invented these companies. ppe. this couple they've inveargumente companies. ppe. this couple they've inveargument is:ompanies. ppe. this couple they've inveargument is thatanies. ppe. this couple they've inveargument is that shell the argument is that shell companies didn't was companies within didn't she was able her background there able to her background there were diet pills

were various diet pills cryptocurrency i mean the usual like usual site of yes who hasn't had problems breathing into a bra . well i suppose well into a bra. well i suppose well maybe she thought maybe she thought the shape of that people to that sort of quality to stop things like i know it's only common mistake is under the times from there you to the times from there you to the times well this is the times and of course you can expect this from the times, which the times is focusing on. i mean, paramount, it's the paramedics on strike and not delivering . on strike and not delivering. and i've actually amused the paramedics in this country. and i had a fantastic experience not with, you know, obviously the very bad circumstances . and they very bad circumstances. and they were amazing . so i'm loathe use were amazing. so i'm loathe use one of your big words i'm love i'm low it's too bad mouthing a big word it's it but do you think that gives you a kind of literary edge if you say loathe. yeah, maybe it's an english thing. i was selfishness. i was i was too fo posh guys. the two

of you guys take what they just take. just fun. he become station hand i'm not so you are not posh posh thank you very much . we can't focus please on much. we can't focus please on the paramedics. she had a good experience when they were working to strike and working rights to strike and denied that again. do you want to. you want to know to. do you want to know something my about something my feeling about striking it's what? striking this? it's like, what? what? me musk did with the strikers when a woman came into him assistant came of him and his assistant came in of 12 a fantastic job 12 years, did a fantastic job and said, you know i'd and said, you know what, i'd like some more money. i'd like to like executive. and to be like an executive. and elon. you remember what elon. musk if you remember what happened, elon musk, he to happened, elon musk, he said to her, he you know what? you her, he said, you know what? you deserve been deserve the money you've been fantastic. we've for 12 fantastic. i mean, we've for 12 years, why you a break years, but why don't you a break of two weeks and then we'll come and. see if i get along and. i'll see if i can get along without you. and he. she came back two weeks later and said, you i don't need you. you know what? i don't need you. and fired her. this and basically fired her. this i make you think this is remotely germane to the situation with paramedics remember this. yeah this i think seems to me to rather an extraordinarily polar opposite case . what's it opposite sort of case. what's it to paramedics? no, i don't think

it i think i think you think it is. i think i think you think they should take two weeks off when we see if we manage when we see if we can manage with ambulance and with our ambulance and paramedics? that you're paramedics? is that what you're saying well, thank saying. yeah. yeah. well, thank you contribution . i you for your contribution. i think problem i, i feel think the problem i, i feel sorry to argue it, it kind of i feel mixed about this because i think the problem if you're an ambulance driver, a paramedic or something, and it really will matter will die. matter because people will die. and and then and so therefore and then everybody it's outrageous. everybody goes, it's outrageous. you're we're you're on strike. we're all going suffer. and think, going to suffer. and you think, yeah, the of a yeah, but that's the of a strike. the point strike. yeah. the point of a strike. yeah. the point of a strike is to withdraw your laboun strike is to withdraw your labour. that is true . i'm not labour. so that is true. i'm not sure. but how many paramedics do we need? basically probably 90% are use by little old ladies are too lazy to take the bus to the well. okay, fine. so to fit back to the real world. what actually need health care? yeah, i think what i'm trying to say is that the problem people who've got these kind of jobs is the moment they go on strike everyday or so. they're not the angels. they're this. they're not they're not this. they're not that. know, people

that. whereas, you know, people you about on you don't care about go on strike. the civil society on strike. the civil society are on strike. the civil society are on strike we hate strike and come by. we hate them, already them them, but we already them because you know, trains are annoying best as annoying even at the best as well. love trains. so a huge well. i love trains. so a huge fan of trains. train strikes fan of trains. the train strikes me a train service. can't me as a train service. can't believe we have to have we both come from brighton station to very kinds people. very different kinds of people. so mostly so i remember, yes, mostly keeping eye first keeping an eye on the first class mccarthyism. are. class anti mccarthyism. you are. can i just can you do the brakes until you hear it turns out? the first class carriages at the first class carriages go at the same at the exact the same same rate at the exact the same time. just don't have time. but you just don't have time. but you just don't have time suspicious. the time in the suspicious. the other i never other people never do. i never do. know i do. i don't have do. i know i do. i don't have enough hair type of class if i'm going long distances of london because it, because because that's worth it, because i'm now southern i'm also old enough now southern don't any wider seats don't even have any wider seats or . no difference or anything. no difference all that. i'm old enough now to have an old person's car and you book it advance. you get it in advance. you get first class. it's and it's get class. it's tricky and it's get a like an ordinary, a chauffeur like an ordinary, like a real person. like, like a real person. yes. like, yeah, supposed to be mr. yeah, we supposed to be mr. posh. even a chauffeur. posh. i am not even a chauffeur. go. know something about an go. you know something about an ambulance? we're moving ambulance? i know. we're moving on. move on. think

on. we have to move on. think and spend too much and i think we spend too much money the on the health care. okay you for that. the daily telegraph. i'm sorry. i got completely lost and so we're back to ambulance is that's the thing the thing here thing i mean the thing here there's on the front there's a woman on the front cover as me. yes, the cover dressed as me. yes, the woman i cover as you. that woman i coverjust as you. that is quite interesting. so the reason front cover reason she's on the front cover is because it is that the person that with who is that she went out with who is some reality whose name some tv reality star whose name i not know and do not want, i do not know and do not want, is stephen bear. it is bear. is not stephen bear. it is bear. but i mean, i don't know who he is on the page anyway but yeah but read because my but i read that because my glasses good enough and glasses aren't good enough and anyway. he sent nude anyway. frankly, he sent a nude picture waived picture of her, waived anonymity. has it baked in. anonymity. she has it baked in. he but thing is to he's he has. but the thing is to he's called bear. isn't this i mean, he's going send the nude, but he's going to send the nude, but the underneath the the one underneath is the interesting thing. us doubles gas is and gas supplies to uk is free and thatis gas supplies to uk is free and that is significant because what's happened obviously the what's happened is obviously the us trying to help us have been trying to help britain with europe britain out with in europe because been cut from because supply has been cut from russia. actually that's russia. so actually that's important just important because it just makes a supply. i got a wee bit more supply. i got a thing from my energy company today. we aren't

today. edf saying we aren't going how much money going to say how much money you're to save on your gas you're going to save on your gas bill because of the energy, whatever it's called. so over the year , yeah, $0.17. well, the year, yeah, $0.17. well, well done . and it's almost as well done. and it's almost as much as we get residuals for repeat . this is one story repeat. this is one story i think lewis might be interested in. this is like the column, i think. but in the bottom left hand corner did lockdown lower our immunity? this is a conversation have people are talking about the kids have been dying of the throat thing strep thing and there's a general suspicion that we may have may have done. i think i think there's some truth to that. well, actually, in the us, do you remember we had that chicken recession very early on in this and i, i said the whole thing. i mean, i'll still talk about covid. will talk about climate covid. i will talk about climate change. exactly the change. but covid is exactly the same thing. i know people die that 4000 for the people who died, it's the damage. died, but it's the net damage. net way worse than net damage is way worse than anything that happened and they knew believe. i agree , knew this, i believe. i agree, my friends. i knew, funnily enough, that when we were

talking before in terms talking about before in in terms of 57 he had of football, it's 57 he had covered for about a week we went up to the lake district. he told us he'd got it. but, you know, he he said it was weird he wasn't. he said it was weird and was horrible and he felt really exhausted for a week. yeah, like wasn't like yeah, like it wasn't like a cold. it was worse than that. i'm not saying this is like what we don't know is. yeah but you don't counterfactual. don't have the counterfactual. you you don't what you don't you don't know what would have happened we would have happened had we not done there's ups done an. okay, there's ups in arguments again, arguments about lockdown. again, it's economy versus it's not lockdown economy versus health. and so i think we've thrown under the bus. thrown people under the bus. that's worried about. that's what i'm worried about. but worried fact but i'm more worried the fact that are around that people are going around restaurants cleaning restaurants in homes, cleaning everything with bleach and now it got it turns out everybody's got anaphylactic from anaphylactic shock from not from when i i a kid, we used when i when i was a kid, we used to have walnut cake at my birthday. i don't remember a birthday. but i don't remember a child's right they child's diet right now. they pass chickens in kitchen pass the chickens in the kitchen and louis. and nobody had louis. when you've the star, which you've got the daily star, which i thought we were, we were more like your grade. we used to we used people with with used to let people with with leprosy say with the big double kisses . every laugh leprosy say with the big double kisses. every laugh was yeah ,

kisses. every laugh was yeah, hey, who is ? my parents used to hey, who is? my parents used to go out looking for the boots, make them just blow the bell. didn't bring out your dad. louis comes running into leper. pick him up. i get it. i get the daily star. well, it may go. you think i've ever read this my entire life . but you know what? entire life. but you know what? i'm going through the most important subject on the thing which is kirstie alley. oh, that is. she was is. yeah and she was she was like a total love interest of mine when i was back was pretty fruity in cheers, wasn't she? she was absolutely. well, she referred to him well as something like that. she was in like i didn't want that. but back when i was about back in the day when i was about 15 years old, i thought she the most, which was what that was to know for that which is like eighties 83. no 52 eighties to nineties, 83. no 52 years old. no, no, no. i was 15 in 1972. well, what did you discover in there, which is maybe it wasn't dawn. when was it? i think it was when you say 21, we had in the late eighties, early now you, me, a liar. is that what you told us? yeah telling you was definitely the

true to love interest. sydney the other one, diane, was the first one which i did not like at all, so i didn't find that we weren't supposed to like her. but she, she didn't, didn't dislike her in an enjoyable way. i oh, you're just an average baseline best one. it's just one of the sitcom you of the best sitcom lines. you remember. yeah. big fat guy remember. yeah. the big fat guy said and sam system. hey what are up to? and he goes on my are you up to? and he goes on my ideal if i was my ideal height. if i was in my ideal height. if i was in my ideal weight, if was 11 feet ideal weight, if i was 11 feet andifs ideal weight, if i was 11 feet and it's the best set. that's you, coach well, it's funny. you have to know the build up was, but. yeah i did get it. but the point is. but. yeah i did get it. but the point is . but the point is this point is. but the point is this what makes this thing so what makes this page so horrible is that it makes this page so horrible is thatitis makes this page so horrible is that it is kirstie and it has exactly a picture of what killed it plus the painted she didn't really know she she died of colon cancer she wasn't she involved in various kind of like claims counterclaims about some diet pills she got very large and then she got very, you know, some pretty crazy fad diets. and

then she got involved in a that was selling fad diets and then she voted for trump. yeah, yeah. but that's all over the place. is that what they say? because that because i personally believe that carbs cause of all of that was of all. okay, guys that was a fabulous first half first quarter. for break quarter. we will go for a break now. us in 2 minutes to now. join us in 2 minutes to meet a playing favourites writing students no naughtiness in see in writing students no naughtiness inmoment see in writing students no naughtiness in moment . see in

welcome back to headliners . and welcome back to headliners. and it turns out the grouchy barmaid is dead as well as it's a terrible night, we think. we thank simon evans. simon fanshawe to my left, lewis schaefer, who's not really even on the political spectrum, as we understand , is. but you could understand, is. but you could say in other states, you say that these are what you was thinking of was when states got to in tea party donors are ungrateful swine. louis after everything they've done for us,

they're starting yeah, hold they're starting to. yeah, hold up. according the up. well. well, according to the guardian people are not guardian that the people are not giving to tories giving money to the tories anymore, probably anymore, which is probably making very happy that making them very happy that they've down over the they've gone down 40% over the last months. yeah and that last three months. yeah and that labour the first time in labour for the first time in years has more money years is has made more money than, than the tories. is that right. oh that is big news. so it's not part of a general slump in party donations. it's actually. no it's very big slump. but then you find out how much is involved, which is much money is involved, which is the labour think the tories. the labour i think made points for labour, made five points for labour, went to £4.7 million in a year. meanwhile, some criminal in america donated $1,000,000,000 to the democrat and that was just before you're talking about the times. i have the bank. bank, bank right after. take a look . well, some of these names look. well, some of these names are extraordinary, aren't they? really so what do you think? is this a good sign for labour? well, my because this is my favourite thing about this whole story is that the so it is it's a minute a quarter, 4.7

a three minute a quarter, 4.7 minute quote. it is significant and conservative spokesman and the conservative spokesman said conservative party only said the conservative party only accepts donations from permissible namely permissible sources, namely individuals registered the uk individuals registered in the uk who pick defence, lie down, off, go for what is essentially the banks, why they are now broke because i think giving up let's see, are they giving up on the oligarchs so who russia who is who is giving money to the do you it was maybe he'd you think it was maybe he'd actually the russians. oh actually stop the russians. oh no russian woman still no there's a russian woman still giving. there's a russian giving. no, there's a russian roman that 4.74 the roman so that 4.74 for the quarter. so conservatives are just under 3 million from july to september. donations to labour nearly labour dumped by nearly a quarter. oh, i met the quarter wrongly. it's look it's obvious it's a tiny amount of money to be within his company. i agree with you. absolutely. but it is something we should be we should celebrate that to an extent. now small political parties are much unsupported like i still think that the political parties be. i think we should fund them through the state. yeah, i really do. so you just can't buy them for they have a certain

amount of influence in order to get a bit breaks for a threshold. then you and threshold. and then you get and then you something like then you get something like that. when there is sky, that. but when there is sky, when you get in the premier league, you know, you can just let me finish just like i do. it's just touch me . go ahead. it's just touch me. go ahead. lewis and i meant that every issue, you know, issue, inch of it, you know, what subject going what can we on the subject going always one of the jewish that always one of the jewish is that is that what makes this you don't have to you don't have to it cost much money to buy a political party this country. no, because all you've got to do is buy the top five guys. yeah because those are the only people. those are the people who make decisions everybody make decisions for everybody else. there must make decisions for everybody elssome there must make decisions for everybody els some other there must make decisions for everybody els some other mechanism must make decisions for everybody els some other mechanism byrst make decisions for everybody els some other mechanism by which be some other mechanism by which that it is not that corrupt. but it is not quite naked as it is in quite as naked as it is in america, at least under wednesday's metros. simon it sounds like indonesia is aggressively positioning itself as destination . as a honeymoon destination. indonesia approved indonesia has approved a strictly that potentially makes it legal . strictly that potentially makes it legal. it's illegal to have sex outside marriage. i mean, good luck with it . forcing not good luck with it. forcing not one, but the thing that's extraordinary is that it then says, which made me laugh. it

said. the rules come into said. the new rules come into effect december 15th. anyone effect on december 15th. anyone flouting them could face up to a yearin flouting them could face up to a year in prison. well, you can have a lot of sex outside marriage . but the thing this an marriage. but the thing this an islamic. what what if there's an interest in the human if actually go to law and human rights minister called it a lowly and she told parliament it's not easy for a multi—ethnic country to make a criminal code accommodate that can accommodate all interests by which and she's right it is difficult. right the way. it is difficult. but think it isn't difficult but you think it isn't difficult it difficult . do that but it is difficult. do that but don't go lowest common don't go to the lowest common denominator. is like saying denominator. that is like saying is because i'm a vegan. you are a vegan. the obvious thing to do in situation is to say you in that situation is to say you are to follow the dictates are free to follow the dictates of dictates of own religious of the dictates of own religious faith, like you faith, something like that. you know. course, what it's know. and of course, what it's going will kill off going to do is it will kill off the tourist trade. but know the tourist trade. but we know a boost to the bolster bolster what's boot up? you must have had a bolster what was that sort of . so all hotels now you won't

of. so all hotels now you won't have you have to have to either twin beds or a double bed with a like an old sitcom. it'd be like a terrier and jude. yes. well, like those old movies, the 19405, like those old movies, the 1940s, where they had like a double bed, the hays code and the used to give you the ones they used to give you a foot. like you had to get your foot. like you had to get your foot floor. that's foot the floor. yes, that's right. snooker player. right. like a snooker player. i mean, wednesdays mirror mean, thing wednesdays mirror lewis. sorry. i'm moving on lewis. oh, sorry. i'm moving on though. nobody claims over though. nobody he claims over mostly peaceful race riot in a bristol. can't get my bristol. you know i can't get my head that didn't see head around that i didn't see the video. no, i tried to find there's no video. video and if there's no video. video and if there's video, it never there's no video, it never happens. because happens. but you know, because it's rioted at it's so 200 students rioted at redland green school in bristol. but the rioting to the news article in the mirror took place between 1105 and 1205, according to them , and they were all back to them, and they were all back in there. but, you know, double rioting , just a single parent, rioting, just a single parent, right then and they say overturned have been acquitted. so it doesn't seem like it's that big. every kid has a phone, every videotaped. every kid videotaped. yeah, yeah. they're telling yeah. and yeah, they're telling me was video. there's me there was no video. there's a story about teachers barricading themselves in these in the

staffroom. video for staffroom. there's no video for that have found it. that teachers have found it. there description. there is description. they rioted, sprayed graffiti on rioted, they sprayed graffiti on the wall. they smashed toilets that if that tipped over bins. but if you read the end of the you then read the end of the story, it says there was one bed knocked over. yeah as they ran out of the school and they were back, say, by i think back, as you say, by i think this i think if there this is i mean, i think if there was a riot, a bad. yeah was a riot, that's a bad. yeah but if they were just protesting because it's unfair because they feel it's unfair that this it was because a teacher claimed she'd been racially then racially discriminated then there right and there resigned right and resigned frankly people resigned and frankly if people are protest about well, are going to protest about well, what i saying? absolutely for what am i saying? absolutely for the one bit, i think is the protest one bit, i think is okay be where you draw them. okay to be where you draw them. i don't know what is depends whether it's mixed recycling or whether it's mixed recycling or whether it's mixed recycling or whether it's food waste is and a massive difference between bristol will have seagulls say well seen a lot reason well i've seen a lot of reason of course used to pulling of course they used to pulling things in bristol. there things down in bristol. so there is going on. anyway, is a tradition going on. anyway, let's a look at the mail let's have a look at the mail now. simon in the form of marlene hedley restraining her cup bitter dregs. cup of bile to bitter dregs. that's take on it. you that's my take on it. but you may have own. you talking may have your own. you talking about so you remember.

about me so you will remember. people watching this week people watching that this week or last week, somebody's going to forlani, runs to go see forlani, who runs a domestic violence was and this is he was at an event is the this he was at an event by the queen do we go to the queen or the queen consort? i don't whatever camilla was don't know. whatever camilla was running this thing on raising the temperature around against women, which the queen called a global pandemic. women, which the queen called a global pandemic . and in fact, global pandemic. and in fact, i should just i was going to wear my orange ribbon today because it to november the 25th of december, the 10th of the 16 days of action globally for the united nations declared against the violence against women anyway this woman. so you remember that lady, susan hussey , who was a friend of this channel for the last ten days, tell you so you won't need to remind people. okay, so all the here's my thing is that i'm there's a way of asking this question. so if you look at the population of britain, most people who are not white have come here their families have come here their families have come here their families have come here since 1945. so there

is always a story and that's a fair enough of curiosity. but to ask or seven times play with somebody there and all that, why does she change name wearing traditional tribal go , go. so traditional tribal go, go. so that's not my point. my point is that's not my point. my point is that there is a sensitive way. so so classically, so, so , you so so classically, so, so, you know, people say to gay people who listen, some people say to boy scouts, this isn't the story . the story is that she's suffered horrific abuse because otherwise you're addressing a story that happened . okay. she's story that happened. okay. she's she suffered abuse because that's what people do these days . if you if you stick your head above the parapet and if black people said they had a proud parents, it actually that parents, it actually turns. that felt me . now then felt racist to me. now then we have have process where we have to have a process where we decide whether it is. i feel in my very formal thing, though, that does controversial that somebody does controversial and god, i've been and goes, oh my god, i've been horrific i've been horrific abuse, i've been following, twitter following, i've been on twitter all i've seen is all the time. all i've seen is people kind of going you've got an sacked. i don't an old woman sacked. i don't think was necessary. no, it think that was necessary. no, it wasn't. no, i the more important the important lesson from

the more important lesson from this the central idea this is just the central idea that you ask people that when you ask people questions, to be questions, you need to be sensitive what mean, sensitive about what they mean, your your effect. your intention and your effect. there be gap between there can be a gap between you're old lady, you you're an 83 year old lady, you know. no, don't you say know. no, no, don't you say people. no, no, no . friend people. no, no, no. my friend to this going to lunch with this i'm going out to lunch with next week is 94 years old. we're celebrating a 94th birthday. she doesn't things like that. doesn't do things like that. she's sensitive because she's been enough stuff to been around enough stuff to understand actually these understand that actually these questions are sensitive. that's you're asking this woman, she may be 84, but she's a lady in waiting. she should have manners. she didn't have something. comes to, you something. when it comes to, you know, think simon is know, something i think simon is right. you right. what used whatever you said, that people have said, which is that people have people a story and people people have a story and people want the story. and the fact is that this woman, lady that this woman, this lady whatever, she she was whatever, susan, she she was interested in racist, are not interested. if i see somebody that i'm a racist. she was telling being presented by a woman who was performance the african not only did they can i say yeah but then when say hello, what can i say? sorry let no let lewis speak. he hasn't

had to go from nothing to sorry like that's going say your truth. now my truth is, is that is that if she were racist, she wouldn't have been there. it's a great anti—racist thing . she great anti—racist thing. she wouldn't have touched the woman supposedly, touched supposedly, she touched the person. this time person. she spent all this time talking she was talking to her. she was interested. hang on, hang on, interested. no hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. let's take the word racist because it's incendiary. i'm saying it's deeply insensitive when you say to somebody, but you would never say a white person, where do say to a white person, where do you from? and if they said to you, they say, i'm, but you, would they say, i'm, but no, it's not from you. i'm just saying i would. words i know. you mean what i'm saying, simon is just listen to what i'm saying and criticise that. yeah okay. you know, if what i'm saying is where they were from, what i'm saying is the way which you ask the question. yeah that has an intense and does not match the of fact if you say a white person to a black person, where do you come from. the implication is they don't belong here. she is the way she was.

simon she has an extraordinary this is this. simon is right. it's right in america. it's perfectly acceptable . ask where perfectly acceptable. ask where you're from. it means something. maybe she's been watching american thought, american tv and just thought, i'm me. you just to i'm to be me. you just have to be careful finishing the section. metronews in section. lewis the metronews in the and it turns out when the times. and it turns out when the times. and it turns out when the money the honey. the money flows, the honey. lewis exactly. is lewis yes, exactly. well is about which now about facebook, which is now meta they have separate meta and they have separate rules, vips, treat vips rules, vips, they treat vips differently . and basically if differently. and basically if you're a vip you can put up new pictures that you can say going to start shooting people, you can that's what can promote. and that's what happened with trump, it's been exposed that that matter that matter that facebook was treating there was two classes of people. now there's two classes of people. but what what examples are there of things that they got away with that they have been able to get away with? well, they mentioned that name or had they nomar post name or had they let nomar post pictures of which thought pictures of which i thought was a but since i think a girl but i've since i think she's been accused of some kind of not sure i know. of gay, i'm not sure i know. right. | of gay, i'm not sure i know. right. i thought i thought he was of rape and in order

was accused of rape and in order to kind undermine that to kind of undermine that accusation, came the accusation, never came to the courts. posted basically courts. he posted basically a picture woman naked and picture of this woman naked and saying thought the fantasy saying so i thought the fantasy like is you know i don't know like is you know i don't know like a hussy is basically was it was it a is that's wrong was it a woman though? i'm not sure really. okay. because i googled it and i'm not i'm not exactly sure myself. i googled it. so that was one thing. and then trump's when he trump's thing was that when he starts shooting , the starts the shooting, the shooting which is shooting starts, which is basically the president, basically is the president, united basically united states, he's basically telling should telling people we should shoot you, shoot, you, but they never did shoot, which maybe it's a it's a which they maybe it's a it's a well—known quotation america well—known quotation in america not this is not but everybody comes from riots . and in the comes from riots. and in the sixties in florida, i think the chief of police there, they said it so it's a well—known sort of phrase. i think the point about this, though, is there's a there's an algorithm or there's a thing called the cross check . a thing called the cross check. and the argument is some of this independent is that the independent panel is that the cross—check is people cross—check decide is people who, for instance, a journalist or human rights people or whatever, who put things on that would cross the

would otherwise cross the violation. so they get violation. yeah. so they get off. but the vips don't and people have got business relationship with metro or facebook or whatever it's called. these days. yeah. don't get taken off. that's the point. it's inconsistency between it's the inconsistency between the two groups of people that seems to me to the when seems to me to be the age when you think it inevitable. i mean , is a private business. i guess they said that was about politics. why do we ever think it a private business and can it as a private business and can do they do? what's do what they want to do? what's surprising is, is the people who work there were, offended work there were, like offended that. treated that. people were treated fairly, work there. and fairly, but they work there. and facebook unfair. facebook is completely unfair. yeah, 0h, yeah, but also they claim, oh, we're the bait we're the great town hall where the where the defenders of speech and defenders of free speech and blah blah. you can't have blah blah blah. you can't have it guys say we're it both ways. you guys say we're private do private companies, so we'll do what want also say what we want and also say actually we're a public service we're at the town hall. and it just happened, of course. i mean, with elon musk and. mean, again, with elon musk and. yeah. twitter it's yeah. and twitter is an it's same of course a long same debate of course for a long time, on the right time, people on the right were complaining that twitter was treating not handedly. treating them not even handedly. and everyone would go, and then everyone would go, well, a private company.

well, it's a private company. you do what they you know, they can do what they want, it. and want, they must buy it. and suddenly, like elizabeth warren are saying, don't think it's are saying, i don't think it's a goodidea are saying, i don't think it's a good idea company like good idea that a company like twitter be in hands twitter should be in the hands of reckless billionaire, which of a reckless billionaire, which is true, probably, is kind of also true, probably, you know. i kept you know, i don't know. i kept my up. yeah, it's tricky, my mind up. yeah, it's tricky, isn't it? why don't we for? just stop it remains the only safe bastion debate. bastion of free debate. screaming. screaming we've reached point. we're reached the halfway point. we're just join the just warming. join us after the break for guardian's backing break for the guardian's backing of journalists into of its journalists into a corner, murdering a bunch corner, musk murdering a bunch of really starring in of kids is really starring in the show . and is this the most the show. and is this the most racist thing ever seen? i've seen ? i think it might be anyone seen? i think it might be anyone we'll see in a couple of minutes . it's .

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know, it's me. i always history. simon. you'd think horrible histories actors would have some perspective about retrospectives , spiral . , self—loathing, shame, spiral. that story is my story. that is my story is my story. yes, this about, you know, it's like this has nothing to do with today. it's 29 to 20 and 14. there was a programme on tv about called horrible histories . horrible histories. yeah. and they have again who was one of they have again who was one of the writer is just the guy who was it was one of the one of the actors and they said they used a spray tan. they used a spray tan really white and to make them look egyptian extraordinary and extraordinary . hoo hoo hoo hoo. extraordinary. hoo hoo hoo hoo. you would think they'd put a makeup on actors who would think that they'd make other actors and the guys the guys appearing in front of the oxford union and says that it says that that's a bad thing. well, to be fair, he says this. he says the idea is worthy of considering. i mean it it it's one of those tricky subjects isn't it i mean what i find is that when you do something in the horrible

histories is a bunch of histories which is a bunch of sketches really kind just invention. i mean, did you invention. i mean, why did you need spray i do you need to spray i mean, do you just pretend be egyptian and just pretend to be egyptian and put that hat that you just put on that hat that you just like egyptian just but you like an egyptian just but you know, it's like it's always amazes me this thing this is when people go and they go, well mean you know they if he'd been black and she'd been why they couldn't a white child couldn't have had a white child and you go it's theatre when he went to see any of the faith where they actually horses what is it dangerous horses. you don't know but there are there are ways that certain are are some ways that certain are coded and you see them in a certain and you register certain way and you register them you what's them and you tell you what's really there's a really really in. there's a really interesting example at the moment. it'sjust if interesting example at the moment. it's just if you're in london, you can go and see the west end. but if you're not sorry because it's another but it's best of it's a play called best of enemies and it's about gore vidal and william buckley. oh, yes. william buckley yes. hello. william buckley and gore vidal, i say on the famous 1968 really 1968 thing, and it's a really amazing play. william buckley, famous conservative. yeah, is played by david, a very known

black actor. i was like, okay, what's interesting about it is you watch it and it's peculiar for about three or 4 minutes. yeah he's a wonderful actor , so yeah he's a wonderful actor, so that has something to do with it. but the way it's written and the fact that it just stops . the fact that it just stops. interesting and important. it's him and the points the first time i've ever seen the point is kind of tell you something. you're wrong. wrong wrong. yes. you're wrong. wrong wrong. yes. you can have this . it's acting. you can have this. it's acting. but you try make it as realistic looking as passive . so, you looking as passive. so, you know. yeah, no, you don't. you don't stop talking . it's oh i don't stop talking. it's oh i wouldn't let him speak on interrupting him an awful lot i have seen myself directing him. i'm not a go ahead and on and on he's just happy to be out of brightness. i'm somebody to speak to. speech speak. your line is that is that is that it's like omar sharif who was egyptian he was put in to look white, to be a russian in zhivago. yeah, exactly. so we're going to go and say that that's

unacceptable. yeah i thought it was weird that casting was a bit weird, but but that worked because he looked. he looked rough. thing is some rough. the funny thing is some things mystical, things become mystical, like henry fifth. enough, henry the fifth. funnily enough, you can not play black, you can play you can not play black, you can play as a woman. now mean play it as a woman. now mean there kinds of like there are all kinds of like performances do it in performances you could do it in all of ways. you could all kinds of ways. you could conceivably greek conceivably take any greek tragedy shakespearean even tragedy or shakespearean or even possibly archetypes of possibly like the archetypes of george so george bernard shaw and so on. things are little bit more things are a little bit more difficult . think, for instance, difficult. think, for instance, when copperfield , when we had david copperfield, which brilliant, dev patel which was brilliant, dev patel played perfect but played the part perfect me but there was opening scene there was that opening scene where aunts comes where one of the aunts comes along convinced that along absolutely convinced that her new and his own nephew is going to be a daughter and storms off in disgust when he's born as a boy. yeah it doesn't seem to notice he's also been born which you help born as an indian which you help think he would been more think he would have been more newsworthy. i newsworthy. victorian england. i think think it's i think think it's i think it's i think it's changed. i think there's not a single rule. i think it's about whether works in terms about whether it works in terms of actor in the story and if of the actor in the story and if it the story because. it disturbs the story because. there are moments when it doesn't. time doesn't. but the first time i saw david had we're doing this

twice now, i amazed by the twice now, i was amazed by the fact that it distort story, fact that it distort the story, which we're roughly in which we're talking roughly in the same territory here. funnily enough, wednesdays telegraph, we're one we we're going back to the one we thought were very. yes. then thought we were very. yes. then and this is right in your warehouse. in an atmosphere. warehouse. i'm in an atmosphere. fear for fraser is i fear clumsy for fraser is i can't help thinking there was can't help thinking so there was drugs had the freeman she wrote for guardian for 20 years for the guardian for 20 years and she for 15 years it was and she said for 15 years it was and she said for 15 years it was a fantastic. and she a fantastic. and then she thought the her partner was thought that the her partner was become theorist was become a conspiracy theorist was sort on it. sort of her line on it. it's actually happened was actually what happened was this that she wrote this called short column business news and she wanted to write about feminism she wanted to write about the questions gender which are so common at the she wanted to interview j.k. rowling she wanted interview martina wanted to interview martina navratilova , but wanted it navratilova, but she wanted it in first step to run in to be my first step to run the case. she wanted to into alison. told by the alison. but she was told by the guardian couldn't interview guardian she couldn't interview any of those people and that those stories were too controversial best written by the writers of whom the health writers all of whom are by the she was also are men by the way, she was also not to follow up the not allowed to follow up the investigation. that kind of

started into and started into mermaids and eventually she got the stage eventually she got to the stage that actually i'm she's going that actually i'm so she's going to times i think to the sunday times i think what's the that distresses me about this all the way through this debate and you know i'm started stonewall and the way we managed to do what we did i was there at the beginning other people took it on was debated discussed finding common ground with about stuff which would make life decent and easy for gay people . what don't gay people. what i don't understand no culture. i understand is the no culture. i don't understand idea that the guardian will simply say , no, guardian will simply say, no, we're clamping down on it. guardian will simply say, no, we're clamping down on it . just we're clamping down on it. just think it's authoritarian and i think it's authoritarian and i think it's authoritarian and i think it's hideous. it happens on the right and it happens on the left. and of us in the left. and the those of us in the left. and the those of us in the centre, i've just been marginalised by neil francis owen yes owen as well. suzanne moore yes , left as well, but you , she also left as well, but you know, i just find this notion you don't discuss stuff with people with, i find people don't agree with, i find that totally . louis it's the that totally. louis it's the guardian what do you expecting ? guardian what do you expecting? guardian what do you expecting? guardian it's not a newspaper a it's a political propaganda vehicle for the wokeism so you

didn't to be that didn't used to be it didn't use it. it was a solid left wing paper with a very, you know, profoundly important history. and in the of left wing ideas and to be the first story we talk about tonight is a solid of tonight is a solid bit of journalistic investigative it's not it's a lovely title a no i think it's like the anti tory is fine because if hadley freeman was trying to write about the transition from the perspective of does infringe on women's rights and not this is what she was what she was trying to do the guardian should be solidly behind i mean that should be absolutely anything absolutely if anything the proposition an proposition that trans is an attempt by men to shut down women is you one of women which is you know one of the arguments that kind of feels women which is you know one of the it's|ments that kind of feels women which is you know one of the it's|menit'shat kind of feels women which is you know one of the it's|menit's at kind of feels women which is you know one of the it's|menit's a right! of feels like it's like it's a right wing, you know , you do what you wing, you know, you do what you want. i mean, it's like an injunction. it's like the patriarchy trying to reassert itself through the backdoor what they. has taken they. but the guardian has taken on cause of, trans on the cause of, the trans community. so the rules. the rules is what does the guardian believe the guardian believes that women should about that women should be quiet about , so she just , the trans issue. so she just didn't play along. she was

working for the wrong and she went over there. she was on 15 years. mean, the point. years. i mean, that's the point. that's though it is that's right. though it is interesting how the gay debate and i know andrew sullivan has said thing in said the same thing in in america as the gay was america as well. the gay was advanced , like patiently advanced slowly, like patiently through like reasoned discussion , debate. and a lot of people who , maybe 20 years ago were not who, maybe 20 years ago were not in favour . gay marriage have now in favour. gay marriage have now seen the enormous success been and many hear a murmur against it. the trans thing began immediately. our existence not up for debate. one figure for you 9026 on the question was asked in the british attitude survey do you think people should have to change the sex on their birth certificate right 52% of people said yes. 2022. same question . 39% of people same question. 39% of people said yes and the people said no went up by 70. that not on any level a successful campaign. that's a very interesting observation to the times now. simon this one threatens to put

the tobacco master settlement agreement into the which well , agreement into the which well, was the world's most expensive class action lawsuit in which the tobacco industry ended up paying the tobacco industry ended up paying about hundred billion to doctors. and so on who live there for their time and effort, cunng there for their time and effort, curing lung cancer. well, this is oh, yeah. you see , did you is oh, yeah. you see, did you write that down? i don't know. there's going to be a test at the end. it wasn't me. i was. i was listening to it. i didn't really. the dogs barking outside the window, but i was like i'm always impressed with. so i bet intelligence you had to look it up. had remembered it was up. i had remembered it was expensive. have had expensive. i wouldn't have had the go . okay, well, the nerve to go. okay, well, the thing will all the thing that will pay all the what's it going to restore it? he got to is basically poland claiming that it wants he got to is basically poland claiming that it want s ,13 claiming that it wants ,1.3 trillion from germany as reparations and then you read through it and you go well actually germany said that it's one of my favourite things is that the germans government declared that they regarded the matter closed . i mean it's not matter closed. i mean it's not like that old show joke, isn't it. knock. who's there

it. knock knock. who's there adolf. who do not it adolf. adolf who do not it doesn't work but anyway. they read through the story and he's hang on motivation and hang on i on motivation and timing what's going on there and then you terms the further down then you terms the further down the story and you feel you find donald tusk a man to be trusted. i would say it was once the poush i would say it was once the polish prime minister made the point that actually this is part of there's election coming up of there's an election coming up and this is the this is the law and this is the this is the law and justice party. and there's two here. one is two things going on here. one is they want anti they an they want an anti jews. they an outside they want to outside enemy. they want to anti german. mean, other thing german. i mean, the other thing they to do is enabled they want to do is enabled themselves distance from themselves to distance from germany nato , the germany in relation to nato, the eu and ukraine. and you know, it's just electioneering and i would say also just before i louis in i feel personally that poland has a fairly ignoble in the last 20 years or so especially of trying to distance from its own activities and behaviour the which behaviour during the war, which is acceptable . think is far from acceptable. think there are a lot of jews in country still regard poland as very dubious this. know, very dubious for this. you know, there was not enormous there was there was not enormous amount of resistance. well, the

side is that half the side of it is, is that half the germans actually massive germans actually gave massive amounts gave some amounts money and they gave some money jews would be money to jews who would be killed in poland. so they ask for is too much money because. the money's already been given to the people that died and which that and the other thing is, if was a pole, i'd be is, is if i was a pole, i'd be very nice the germans very nice to the germans because. poles. poles right. because. the poles. poles right. i think history is not a good history . you don't want to make history. you don't want to make an enemy of the germans. and then the other side of the russians. so especially not after the last 12 months. yeah. you yeah no i would tend you know. yeah no i would tend to but yes. let's fire to agree but yes. let's fire that under cynical will gathering you wednesday gathering when you wednesday guardian factory farming guardian lewis factory farming meets farmer well this meets factory farmer well this has turned factory animals animals are being killed for pharmaceutical rather than industrial. oh okay i you switched off again, didn't you? i don't know. just. you could just glaze over forever for that. i thought for a few minutes with you guys. you just got to to the tusk because got to get to the tusk because they know elon musk key line is,

is his other projects is is one of his other projects is got company neuralink got company called neuralink which putting implants which is about putting implants in the body, which i think lots of companies have done of other companies have done before. then big before. and then there's a big big cause celeb because they've killed 1500 animals. now, just to be clear these are these implants the idea is that they will restore the connection between the brain and certain limbs that don't anymore due to nerve damage that kind of right. yeah i don't i think it'll and to not the limbs. i don't think i don't i'm not sure what to so i don't i'm not sure what to so i think when you get one of these things you know your arm starts working depending on what was to become paralysed. was going to become paralysed. i was going to become paralysed. i was like it could was thinking more like it could attach maybe some sort of attach just maybe some sort of prosthetic device which could move that okay, maybe. move oh, is it that okay, maybe. is then? that's what i was is that then? that's what i was thinking. i didn't read the article now, but that just make sense i did read it. i sense to me. i did read it. i did it. but he killed a lot did read it. but he killed a lot of pigs and of sheep, sheep, pigs and monkeys people today don't monkeys and people today don't like idea killing animals. like the idea killing animals. no. unless we get no. you know, they unless we get to them, that seems to be to eat them, that seems to be the one exception to the rule. no, exception that

no, not even the exception that they want killing animals they don't want killing animals at all. people complain at all. the people complain about is nobody about that, but nobody is nobody would comply. i mean, 1500 like mammals in development mammals the in the development of literally of something that literally change . well change people's lives. well who would it's would complain about that it's what data stick showing it to me when wave it when we basically wave it through it is you know through when it is you know you get slightly you burger get a slightly taste you burger right that's to me meat eaters a lot more to explain. i am a meat eater, but i think, you know, to kill 1500 farms, you know i mean, it's not like dogs is you know but they're not killing favourite pets. i i have the same rule about this as do obsess about meeting meat i eat meat so i have to accept. so i think the only thing i would say is that i try to eat meat that i find out has been added all to life. well, that's the annoying thing these days. you go to a restaurant and they up and restaurant and they turn up and they oh, you know, the they say, oh, you know, the chicken about to eat chicken that you're about to eat was up in a loving it was brought up in a loving it went to hen school you boarding fee paying all you know fee paying you all that you know views across views across all

yeah so you know but i think yeah so you know but i think yeahi yeah so you know but i think yeah i mean, it seems to me the argument here which is the underlying argument is as i understand it because i did read the is this that , that the article is this that, that what's happening is that musk is saying i want results quick results because this is results quicker because this is a competitive field and a very competitive field and arguably what the arguably what that what the whistle blowers inside the company is saying is these experiences being done to quickly and instead of being donein quickly and instead of being done in series and learning from them then to the next one, the bidding too quickly. and bidding can too quickly. and that's animals. the that's why the animals. the animals say there's kind animals would say there's a kind of argument about about of ethical argument about about are rushing the research so are you rushing the research so slower number slower even than a same number of it was just of animals died it was just follow a movement. they have slow they . yes. slow meat don't they. yes. correct. yeah. slowly big. correct. yeah. yeah. slowly big. so it's like kind of like with that chewing. they're chewing the 1800. things are slowly the 1800. but things are slowly and i think yeah, slaughter happens slowly . well i'm not happens slowly. well i'm not sure connect , connect. we're sure connect, connect. we're going go think i've got so going to go think i've got so little things say when i want to say something let me let me say something let me say let me say something let me say let me say ahead. is that is that say go ahead. is that is that

what what said about what said what you said about how you go to a restaurant and they talk about the provenance of and. yeah of the chicken and. yeah they don't kfc. well no don't do that at kfc. well no it's in the name you kentucky. yeah. okay how do you know they would try. and put underfoot by secretariat know you secretariat and you know you break into minutes we'll break now into minutes we'll have papua new new have papua new guinea new guineans should never guineans why you should never take a pink chair to church on my scientific clean. this is one of the great christmas holidays . i guess see. in a couple . oh, i guess see. in a couple of minutes .

welcome back to the part of headliners. we find we've overrun slightly with the previous section fascinating discussions throughout the of course so we're going to drop that story about the christmas films, which terribly films, which is not terribly interesting come interesting anyway. and come with guinea's with papua new guinea's population. they've doubled overnight . they're dying hear overnight. they're dying to hear about that's i mean,

about this. that's i mean, people don't know what papua new guinea is. i was on david ashton was this is a life. what? oh, is that right? yeah. it's just a beautiful place. it used to be it probably is too many people there now. the population, what they're saying, the daily mail, that population doubled that the population doubled overnight because the united nafions overnight because the united nations there and did aerial nations in there and did aerial photographs basically the photographs and basically the government you got twice government that you got twice as many this many as you think this information usually comes from the i remember the supermarkets. i remember about ago supermarkets about ten years ago supermarkets going we have 60 million going we don't have 60 million people britain. have people in britain. we have at least million britain. least million people in britain. just know and it was kind just so you know and it was kind of hushed but it run in the of hushed up, but it run in the fta and stuff. there's always information the information that contradicts the government, the government, yeah. the most yeah. yeah. but the most interesting thing about this is, is the prime minister, is that the prime minister, instead cow , got instead of saying, holy cow, got more thank yeah, more people, thank god. yeah, he's this it he's saying this is bad. it means we've got fewer doctors per resident . yeah. which is an per resident. yeah. which is an imbalance. have already the imbalance. must have already the people what love people but that's what i love about because about that is suddenly because the change you know the figures change you know they've not been to see a they've always not been to see a doctor. yeah, but always doctor. yeah, but there's always been the, the same culture apparently to see a gp average

the average salary has been by half. what if you poor you knew that. yeah. i think part of it is, is possibly a pr stunt because get significant financial aid from australia. right. they do , which is where right. they do, which is where they're now. so you're saying they're now. so you're saying the guys pretend not to be happy about like really about it, but it's like really rubbing high level papua rubbing as high level papua new guinea on my somebody. know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave1 my somebody. know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave to 1y somebody. know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave to give mebody. know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave to give themjy. know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave to give them my know rubbing as high level papua new guirhave to give them my money you have to give them my money than so somebody than indonesia now so somebody used be somebody i know used to be somebody i know wonderful director used to collect penis gourds papua new guinea things can guinea the fabulous things can collect. yeah that's. fun to go the full way. to the the full way. moving to the times and it turns out times simon and it turns out universal language love universal language is not love or esperanto . so well, they're or esperanto. so well, they're clucking, swearing , mother clucking, swearing, mother cluck. what they did was these people, did what their people, they did what their argument is that the great aggressive ks and cs and t's are the words that are aggressive. they give you that sort of big thing. and what did was quite interesting. they took native speakers of hebrew, hungarian russian, they russian, hindi, korean. they found swear words in those languages and they asked people to identify whether or not they

were swear words. but them were swear words. but some them were swear words. but some them were weren't right. were some of them weren't right. and identified words that and still identified words that britain meant. s dash, dash, dash f dash , dash be dust, dash f dash, dash be dust, asbestos , dash, dash and one asbestos, dash, dash and one which is d plus seven. and i did which is d plus seven. and i did which is d plus seven. and i did which is richard the number teacher. oh, okay. very you go just little anecdote was this exceptionally good in scouse. that one isn't it. yeah but the best one i know but this is make me laugh is that the argument that l and n m soften these words ? yeah. and you may words? yeah. and you may remember the film star, diana dors. yeah she was, in fact, born dame diana. mary flock. wow. she well, to escape that that was once introduced by vicar's diana clement. that was once introduced by vicar's diana clement . what do vicar's diana clement. what do you think about that ? that that you think about that? that that kind of foreign phonetic implication , lewis? i mean, implication, lewis? i mean, you're pretty good swearing. well, i think maybe that's why you the best curses are yiddish curses because they got the hood become the thing i. always do it

like the arabic ones. it sounded like the arabic ones. it sounded like you're coughing up a bit of phlegm. let's get on to phlegm. anyway, let's get on to the tetris. our last the tetris. that's our last story of the evening. tetris is a video game. it was a scientist called vladimir puck hilco . called vladimir puck hilco. there guy called there was another guy called paget an off . paget kind of paget an off. paget kind of invented this idea pocket saw the potential as a video game. they started this company the russians sat on. it took , it russians sat on. it took, it back. but when they got back from the research, they found a murder scene in which two mother and child were dead and he was dead.i and child were dead and he was dead. i mean, any sort his own head off and they said, oh, it's a murder suicide. not only that to hammers used to kill the a note that was written in the third person and also referred to the devil he wasn't religious handi to the devil he wasn't religious hand i we have to get off editing story that it's taken over 20 years to come out that's it for wednesdays. thanks for sticking around to the end of the night. i've been simon evans thank my lovely colleagues thank to my lovely colleagues from the financial and schaefer . tomorrow doyle takes

. tomorrow andrew doyle takes over. . tomorrow andrew doyle takes over . it's gorgeous. how are over. it's gorgeous. how are you? kearse thank you very you? leo kearse thank you very much. it's to .

a the prime minister is under pressure fast track strike busting as britain faces the biggest of industrial action since the thatcher era . well, a since the thatcher era. well, a very good morning. it is 6:00 on wednesday, the 7th of december. this is breakfast gb news today with . monsanto and the roosevelt with. monsanto and the roosevelt hazel seed in the news this morning rishi sunak is being urged to expedite anti strike legislation as ambulance workers become the latest group to announce and distort action. this month, more than 10,000 staff walking