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can very good morning. well, bev turner today on gb news the pubuc turner today on gb news the public are being warned to be extra vigilant at large gatherings throughout the christmas period as the threat from terrorism apparently remains very real . home affairs remains very real. home affairs editor mark white will bring up to date on yesterday to my horror, the covid vaccine was given the green light to be administered to babies from six months of age. i'm going to have to get it right. why and to guess to go throughout the most interesting stories of the day with me. right to lower doses and lord jonathan marland will be here as well. coming up after a look at the latest news with rosie wright . a very good rosie wright. a very good morning. 10:02 m. rosie wright. let's get you up to date . the let's get you up to date. the health secretary has insisted the government is open to talks with health unions but that their pay demands are not reasonable. it's after the gmb unison and unite unions announced . coordinated strike
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announced. coordinated strike action for thousands of ambulance staff on the 21st of december. the gmb union, which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, also planning a further day of action on the 28. members say the strike isn't just over their pay, but also to save the nhs. they say the staffing crisis is putting patients lives at risk. steve barclay acknowledged there are pressures and that he's willing to negotiate. it's not reasonable to expect a further £28 billion in pay uplifts in line with inflation. and it's because, as you say , there are because, as you say, there are many other pressures within nhs that we need to address to get those patient backlogs down to address the operations that people are waiting for, to address the pressures on primary care. when people are trying to phone a gp and also to support ambulances and paramedics . ambulances and paramedics. meanwhile, steve barclay also insisted there's no shortage of antibodies or ticks after a pharmaceutical group warned there were blips in the supply of penicillin used to treat
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strep a. the national pharmacy association warned there was an issue in the supply chain of liquid penicillin, which is often given children. the often given to children. the health secretary insisted it was not concern and that supplies not a concern and that supplies could be to areas of could be moved to areas of greater demand if needed. at least nine young children are known to died from the known to have died from the infection september . the infection since september. the pubuc infection since september. the public being warned to be extra vigilant while cup events and crowded places throughout the festive counter—terror festive period. counter—terror police say the threat from terrorism remains very real. authorities say the run up to christmas is always a higher risk when it comes to security threats, although is no threats, although there is no specific intelligence of a planned attack . the democrats planned attack. the democrats have secured an outright majority in the us senate after winning a hard fought in the state of georgia. raphael warnock won re—election against the trump endorsed candidate herschel walker. president joe biden's party now holds a 51 seat majority in the upper chamber of congress, which could make it easier to advance democratic nominees for judicial and administrative posts . the and administrative posts. the republican party holds a slight
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majority house of majority in the house of representatives . in germany, 25 representatives. in germany, 25 members of a far right terrorist group have been detained on suspicion of aiming to overthrow the government . of those the government. of those arrested, one is this act of soldier with the special forces command and several others. a reservists. suspects are reservists. the suspects are accused of carrying out actions based their ideology, including procuring equipment, recruiting new members and holding shooting lessons. it's after a series of raids across german states involving 3000 police officers and security officials . house and security officials. house pnces and security officials. house prices have fallen for biggest monthly drop since 2008. the banking group halifax say prices fell by 2.3% in november, making the third consecutive full month on month . it said whales in the on month. it said whales in the south—west of saw particularly sharp slowdowns in house price growth as demand for rural living slowed after the pandemic . a new 24 hour helpline is being offered to victims of rape in england and wales. trained specialists will be on hand any time to offer emotional support
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and information on what other services are available. the ministry of justice says the service can be used by anyone aged 16 and over whose experience sexual violence and abuse at any point in their life . people are being advised to warn their homes to at least 18 degrees as a cold snap begins overnight from this evening, the met office has issued a yellow warning across parts of wales, northern england, northern scotland and england's east coast forecasters arctic coast. forecasters say arctic air move in with air will move in with temperatures predicted to drop to ten degrees to lows of minus ten degrees overnight . warnings will remain overnight. warnings will remain in until tomorrow in place until tomorrow afternoon . today on gb news afternoon. today on gb news offering. you always happens. now back to beth . now back to beth. hey, good morning. welcome to bev turner . hey, good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on tv news, i'm here to get you over the midweek slump with the biggest
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stories and the smartest debates. counter—terrorism police say that the threat of terrorism remains real and the pubuc terrorism remains real and the public must be extra vigilant throughout the festive period. the police say there is no specific intelligence of a planned attacks . so let's find planned attacks. so let's find out what the right threats might be. from mark white and the and healthcare products regulatory agency has authorised the pfizer vaccine to be given to children from six months old in the uk. they say that it meets standards of safety, quality and effectiveness with no concerns identified . let's discuss how identified. let's discuss how they can make such a claim . and they can make such a claim. and as we head into a winter of strikes from trained staff, nurses and ambulance workers, i'm going to be discussing the possible solutions with my panel . former conservative minister lord marland and the author laura dodsworth . and of course, laura dodsworth. and of course, the show is nothing without you and your views. don't forget to vote. in our poll on twitter today, we're asking you with the news that more than 10,000 ambulance drivers will go on
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strike over the christmas period. do you support are period. do you support or are they and putting they being selfish and putting lives at risk? please do, amy also news. gb news dot uk or also gb news. gb news dot uk or tweet me at gb news to give me your opinion on anything that we're discussing . now, if i had we're discussing. now, if i had a pound for every time i said the word strike and could distribute it to our workers, no one would need to go on strike. but there are more ambulance staff. yesterday became the latest group to announce strike days with 10,000 workers walking out on the 21st and the 28th of december. it follows news of further rail strikes with members of the rmt union now planning industrial action for 12 days over the christmas period. joining us now is our political reporter, catherine force , too, at downing street. force, too, at downing street. good morning, catherine . please good morning, catherine. please bnng good morning, catherine. please bring us up to date with the pressure that rishi sunak is facing . strikes in multiple facing. strikes in multiple industries now . yes, really
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industries now. yes, really a lot of pressure now on the government and the prime minister, who's only six weeks into the job. now the anti strike legislation that we keep heanng strike legislation that we keep hearing being talked about was actually promised by boris johnson in the run up to the conservative victory back in 2019. but although we keep heanng 2019. but although we keep hearing about its progress , it hearing about its progress, it is really rather slow. it was only introduced to parliament back in october. it hasn't even had its second reading. and there is concern that it's going to at the moment antagonise the rail unions specifically even further at a time when relations between them and the government are already strained. so all the although the government are planning to bring in legislation to ensure a minimum service , to ensure a minimum service, say, of like 30% of trains to run that not going to happen in time to deal with any of the strikes that we're currently facing. so in the meantime, they are in damage limitation mode at that. obviously training up
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people in the army to potentially drive ambulances. and as these strikes widen, it feels like every day doesn't sit more and more sectors are announcing strikes . it's announcing strikes. it's estimated that a million people will be going on strike in december. now, mark harper, who is transport secretary, is appearing in front of the transport select committee as we speak. transport select committee as we speak . obviously, the government speak. obviously, the government is extremely disappointed that the offer of 9% over two years was rejected . he is saying to was rejected. he is saying to the union, please put it before your do not recommend , just put your do not recommend, just put it before neutral . and also it before neutral. and also steve barclay , the health steve barclay, the health secretary, he is stressing if the government were to pay every pubuc the government were to pay every public sector worker an inflation level pay rise, it would cost the government, by extension, taxpayers 28 billion, which they say they simply cannot afford. okay thank you, catherine. catherine. force there outside of downing street.
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it just feels , doesn't it, it just feels, doesn't it, particularly perilous that the ambulance workers are thinking of striking working when the christmas period is often so busy for them? let me know what you think. gb news actually when you think. gb news actually when you start uk. okay, the public are being warned that us to be extra vigilant at world cup events, at gatherings and in pubs and so on in this country and in crowded places throughout the festive period as counter—terrorist say counter—terrorist police say that the threat from terrorism remains very real. so a home security editor , white, has been security editor, white, has been speaking to one of the country's most senior counter—terrorism officers . officers. across the nation , many across the nation, many thousands are currently packing into venues to enjoy the delights of the world's premier football tournament . the last football tournament. the last thing anyone here wants to be thinking about is the threat of
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attack . but terrorists often attack. but terrorists often seek out crowded places to cause maximum harm. the festive period is traditionally higher risk , is traditionally higher risk, too. that's a massive programme of events like the world cup. and authorities say everyone should be alert to the potential dangers . we know that since 2017 dangers. we know that since 2017 the intelligence service is and policing have foiled 37 attack plots in the uk and i don't say that to alarm people, but i say that to alarm people, but i say that to alarm people, but i say that to show people how hard policing and the intelligence services are working in the background to keep them safe. many terrorists investigations rely on information coming into the system, and i'm here to , try the system, and i'm here to, try and encourage the public to remain really vigilant and alert . media here in birmingham, the city's chairman market has fully reopened for the first time since the pandemic. reopened for the first time since the pandemic . annual since the pandemic. annual events like these are a key part
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of security planning. ever since islamist terrorists targeted christmas markets in multiple european cities in recent years , all around this christmas market are the discreet , not so market are the discreet, not so discreet signs of security. the most obvious of these vehicle barriers is the position that all the entrances to the market, in fact , these barriers are so in fact, these barriers are so commonplace now in centres of population right across . the population right across. the country they're almost part of the street scenery. it's nice . the street scenery. it's nice. see people out. it's nice to get out and be able to do this again. after lockdown, andrew lawson is just glad to see a bit of normal city and security concerns are not, he says, going to stop his enjoyment. we all have to live our lives state by state, home away for something to happen. you just have to live it. andy and kelly had their first date here three years ago, back for the first time since then. they say the obvious security presence doesn't concern them quite the opposite.
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and we've seen all the security barriers up for years now. it's not a it's not an unusual thing to say. and i don't know of anything that's happened. i think if you come anywhere where there's going to be a maximum of people, you need to plan for anything, really. and so having security, you feel a bit safer. come in. authorities say they don't public. don't want to alarm the public. indeed, terror groups like al—qaeda isis have been al—qaeda and isis have been severely degraded by western military activity in recent years. but the security services warn they are attempting to regroup and they've never lost the capacity to radicalise and influence others over the internet . so while the public internet. so while the public enjoy the world cup on christmas festivities ahead , they're also festivities ahead, they're also being asked to remain vigilant. mark white gb news birmingham . mark white gb news birmingham. well, mark white joins me now this morning in the studio . you this morning in the studio. you know, mark, we've had so much going on, haven't we, with
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pandemics and the political situation in this country . situation in this country. terrorist threats are very much supped terrorist threats are very much slipped off the news agenda, haven't. yeah. i mean, they threat level has gone from severe meaning an attack is highly likely done to substantial which still means an attack is likely . that's the attack is likely. that's the assessment from . the joint assessment from. the joint terrorism analysis centre . terrorism analysis centre. rogen terrorism analysis centre. roger, talk about the current threat picture out there. but it's still very real and we heard that from the senior countries terrorism police officer there in that report. now, the last terrorist attack we had was the maternity hospital in liverpool in november of last year , a failed november of last year, a failed bomb attack. it exploded in the vehicle , not fully killed. the vehicle, not fully killed. the bomber . vehicle, not fully killed. the bomber. thankfully, no one else. who was he? if you remember? who was he working for? he was an islamist extremist . and this is islamist extremist. and this is the issue. and they are the main threat still out there. we hear, of course, about the far right being the fastest growing terror
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threat that the country faces. well, that may be true, but it's all relative are still a very small proportion of the work thatis small proportion of the work that is tied up between the police and security services deaung police and security services dealing with the far right . the dealing with the far right. the main threat is still islam extremists. and that's where we've attacks to cause the most potential harm. that's why they go for the likes of crowded places and that's why they are particularly concerned. as always, heightened concern that the authorities have in the run up to the festive period because we've seen that this tends to be a time with the year that you'll get extremist around the globe who will look for christian festivals like christmas to try and attack crowded places christmas markets and the like ? christmas markets and the like? if you combine that with the fact that many people are going to be out celebrate missing the world cup, then clearly there is potential. now that's not, say, bev, that they have had any specific intelligence of an impending attack. they haven't ,
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impending attack. they haven't, but they want to keep it uppermost people's mind. but yeah , of course, you've got to yeah, of course, you've got to go out and enjoy yourself and live your life, but just be aware the fact that you know, aware of the fact that you know, there are people out there that seek to do us harm and just, you know, be sort of cognisant of that fact when you're out and about. i was i thought that the guy in your report there that very british spirits we're just going to carry on he's got mulled in his dog in the mulled wine in his dog in the christmas you know that christmas market. you know that is the beauty of this country , is the beauty of this country, isn't it, that people do just keep calm and carry i was in keep calm and carry on. i was in manchester weekend where manchester last weekend where there is literally there's not a street in manchester sense that doesn't christmas doesn't have a christmas market on fantastic. and of on it. it's a fantastic. and of course, was just in mind course, i was just in my mind back to era the attack at back to the era the attack at the arndale centre of manchester. you must be 25 years ago, something that . but in ago, something like that. but in terms cities do we still feel terms of cities do we still feel that london is the target? not more. no. we've seen in recent years that other cities , years that other cities, liverpool and manchester reading
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you know, there have been multiple attacks in multiple locations outside of london. so, yes , london remains yes, london remains a predominant area, but actually it's wider than that. no and that's why you will see when you go to city centres across the country, these vehicle mitigation barriers, they call them barriers specifically designed to stop vehicles being used in a vehicle borne attack . used in a vehicle borne attack. and they're actually now because we've got to get used to them over a lot of years, the designing them as part of the street . so they're built in and street. so they're built in and they look like, you know, like concrete. yeah. but some of them actually look really quite nice. but what you don't see are the, you know, eight feet of metal struts that go right into the ground that would stop a truck coming in and trying to get on that particular street . so it's that particular street. so it's just part and parcel of the thinking and the way we've had to adopt it is a shame, but it's better that the authorities and
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the planners do that to try . the planners do that to try. think of ways of cutting down on the potential for those that want to cause cause much mass casualty events. all right. thank you, mark rice. don't forget to vote in our poll we got going this morning. this is about the strikes. we've got more than 10,000 ambulance workers are going to go on strike over christmas strike over the christmas period. do support them or strike over the christmas pe|you do support them or strike over the christmas pe|you think support them or strike over the christmas pe|you think they jport them or strike over the christmas pe|you think they aret them or strike over the christmas pe|you think they are being| or do you think they are being selfish to put it lives at risk? so 73% you say. no, they so far, 73% of you say. no, they are not. i i don't know. i think it's 73% of you are saying that you do not support the strike so far. we will get you that graphic of our twitter poll in just a moment. and let me know what you think about what i was just discussing with mark as well. do you feel that the threat of terrorism, of the terrorist threat doesn't feel particularly pertinent? would it change the go about your change the way you go about your business christmas? you business this christmas? you tweet gb news or gb news. tweet me at gb news or gb news. vaiews@gbnews.uk now, off the
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break, i'm going to introduce you to my guest this evening. get this morning, we're going to go through the big stories of the day. it's been long day the day. it's been a long day and some light hearted ones, of course, jonathan ireland course, to lord jonathan ireland and elspeth will be and author lord elspeth will be here studio here with me in the studio tonight for a quick.
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break very good morning. it is 1023. you are watching and listening to tennis today on gb news. now, let me introduce you to my guests this morning. i am delighted to be joined by former conservative minister lord jonathan marland , author and jonathan marland, author and journalist laura dodsworth. now, jonathan , let me come to you jonathan, let me come to you first. passengers will be told this is nothing you can't cope with a man of your experience . with a man of your experience. passengers are being told basically just just avoid the railways, whether or not unions
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call off strikes at the 11th houn call off strikes at the 11th hour, you're just not going to be able to travel anywhere. what a mess. it is a mess. i find the behaviour of the rail absolutely extraordinary . they're very well extraordinary. they're very well paid train drivers somewhat with 59 plus thousand a year, which is good salary . people are just is good salary. people are just not going to use the trains. it's going to force more people to work from home. i don't think it's necessarily a good thing it's necessarily a good thing it's going to create misery for a lot of people who go and see family , which they sometimes family, which they sometimes only once or twice a year , you only once or twice a year, you see. and there hasn't been enough of that in the last couple of years. exactly. so i think that behaviour is appalling and the whole thing about these strikes, beverley , about these strikes, beverley, that no one seems to have linked up with who the biggest funders, the labour party . the unions. the labour party. the unions. the unions they are. and you know, i was involved in raising money for a conservative party. you know who the biggest funder the labour party is, the unions. and this orchestrated of
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strikes, this happening at this particular time and a if you like, of the labour party because of the self—inflicted wounds the conservative party have had is something that people have. the conservative party should associate and link to educate the voters. so i it's really bad. obviously there are a number of people who write. they're striking because they're badly paid and have had to work through incredibly tough time. but i'm afraid i don't think there's a lot of sympathy . so there's a lot of sympathy. so rail unions, i'm just wondering how that would play out. so if rishi came today and rishi sunak came out today and he i blame labour for the he said, i blame labour for the strike , it's because you are in strike, it's because you are in cahoots with the unions and therefore this works for you politically. the backlash from the public though . i'm just the public though. i'm just thinking lower. they would say this is not the fault of labour. you have been government for you have been in government for 12 how can you blame 12 years. how can you blame labour for this? well i don't i
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don't think labour could be blamed i just want to blamed for it. i just want to pick up on a point you made before, which is that we've had a of christmases. i a bad couple of christmases. i think public is going to think the public is going to have no sympathy with this at all. know, we had christmas all. you know, we had christmas cancelled. coming the back cancelled. coming off the back of covid lockdowns . i of covid and lockdowns. i believe the year we were believe this is the year we were promised. 1920 still ahead. and it's proper christmas. so it's been a proper christmas. so the that people aren't the idea that people aren't going be able to take the going to be able to take the train home is just awful. i had to get a car in today because in general, the trains are so unreliable that cannot unreliable that you cannot guarantee you will be able to get a work destination on get to a work destination on a train. only going to train. i mean, only going to play train. i mean, only going to play advocate because play devil's advocate because i've none of i've got a feeling none of us will hear . i've got a feeling none of us will hear. this could be will will hear. this could be seen as a rise of working class power. yes. mean, i have my power. yes. i mean, i have my three strike strike days have plummeted years over the plummeted in years over the years . and i think there was years. and i think there was something like 13 million trade union members , as you . a decade union members, as you. a decade ago. and now we've got half a million. so this isn't really we're not really winter discontent levels but with
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trains ambulances and teachers it does feel like we're getting for christmas. this is the 1970s back and i think it's really depressing. look strikes and trade unions shouldn't just be about solidarity. there should be a wider sense of collectivism in the nation what we really need to do is get back on our feet, get to work. let see their families. and i don't think the pubuc families. and i don't think the public are going to have any sympathy with this at all. absolutely. and think the absolutely. and i think the pubuc absolutely. and i think the public sympathy. but public have had sympathy. but i think it's going too fast. think that it's going too fast. run out over christmas ambulances. lord marland, that seems be a tipping point. i seems to be a tipping point. i think that will be severe because will affect because that will affect people's families, will people's families, that will affect . yes, but it affect lives. yes, but it already is. i have just been i've just been phone by a friend of mine's wife. he tragically he died over the weekend . he had to died over the weekend. he had to wait 8 hours for an ambulance. come and pick him up when he was really ill. so already that service is not is not fit for
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purpose . and you can imagine the purpose. and you can imagine the frustration for ambulance drivers . there's not enough drivers. there's not enough support for them . that is smacks support for them. that is smacks of bad management and within that service. so i feel great sympathy, obviously, for the ambulance drivers. they do a great job and the vital to people's a&e. but this this is this this whole thing is this country is crumbling . it has country is crumbling. it has failed to the levers of power have failed to respond to the cnses have failed to respond to the crises that covid created . they crises that covid created. they didn't respond well at the initial phases of the crisis . initial phases of the crisis. they towards the end, when the vaccine rollout happened, they did that magnificently, but they failed to respond to the civil service of working from home. they're not back at their desk working full time . they have working full time. they have recognised i mean, i've just chaired a conference in the mansion house for the commonwealth uk government scandal be represented at that
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conference because they don't get the change, for example, from from leaving europe . this, from from leaving europe. this, this sort of adjustment and lack of energy and drive that's in that. do you find the government is a terrible because you can pick up the phone to most of these people do you find they will blaming each other is it that so everything is somebody else's no, don't think else's fault? no, i don't think they're blaming each other. i just think that and bingham just think that and kate bingham said this so well when she made her report on on what it was like trying to implement this vaccine programme that the civil service were completely obsessed by process, not by delivery . and by process, not by delivery. and i find that whenever i come up against the civil service , that against the civil service, that it's process and it's the failure of that process on passport courts, i mean, on, on visas, dvla , everything. i mean, visas, dvla, everything. i mean, we're talking about government ministers not be able to get from international countries not being able to get visas to come to this country for events.
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we're talking about individuals in this country not being able to get their passports renewed. that dvla licence is done there . but this is this is a sort of at the at the base level of the sort of government running of the country level. the whole thing is collapsing and fear this country is going really south very quickly. now, what i'm thinking , laura, when i'm i'm thinking, laura, when i'm listening to jonathan talk steps that are going on within these offices, within these systems . what's going wrong? i systems. what's going wrong? i feel like we have gone through this period time. we've got a great reliance on tech, but the tech working somehow it tech not working somehow it fails a level, on our fails on a micro level, on our everyday life, but also on a on a larger level, perhaps on a government level in a transition period. so we just got to expect it. no, don't think we should it. no, i don't think we should assume a transition assume we're in a transition penod assume we're in a transition period to some mythical future. we're going to do everything for us. i think it's i think the claims for i really overstate it. and, you know, frankly, if the if the gp i apps were
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working i wouldn't have been on the phone all the way here in the phone all the way here in the call this morning trying to get an appointment for my son with the gp. i never moved from number 15, no text, with the gp. i never moved from number 15, no text , text. not with the gp. i never moved from nunproblem|o text , text. not with the gp. i never moved from nunproblem yet. (t , text. not with the gp. i never moved from nunproblem yet. i , text. not with the gp. i never moved from nunproblem yet. i think. not with the gp. i never moved from nunproblem yet. i think thet the problem yet. i think the problem actually is something that's a lot more quality, active where the active and human based where the ambulance drivers and the nhs staff are now burnt out , staff are now burnt out, underpaid and understaffed is exactly where it was predicted they would be by disaster. recovery specialists who would not rely upon, for instance, in the delivery of the pandemic plans. unfortunately you know, in the rooms where what are made the boys with the graphs, you know, the models the hard numbers, maybe not that hard. more like chicken entrails being chucked around. but, you know, the models get a lot more weight than the qualitative experience from who've seen from people who've seen disasters for staff disasters before for nhs staff to burnt out now. and that to be burnt out now. and that also involves , you know, also involves, you know, illnesses and being tired and demotivated is entirely predictable. i have so much sympathy for the ambulance drivers , but it is frightening
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drivers, but it is frightening that people can't get the service that they need . one good service that they need. one good thing is i actually believe it or not, and any call outs, ambulance call out. so people being admitted through a&e is not actually much higher right now than was pre—pandemic now than it was pre—pandemic levels . the big hold ups now than it was pre—pandemic levels. the big hold ups is people being admitted following a diagnosis. it's that 7 million waiting list and the fact that's 400,000 you've been on it for over a year. yeah. and also the elderly that cannot be discharged into the social care system, causing a blockage at the end of that system . cheering the end of that system. cheering so it goes , yeah, happy so it goes, yeah, happy christmas, everyone . just be christmas, everyone. just be careful. just stay at home. don't leave the house. no, that's not what we want. not how we want to live right. we're going to have some slightly more cheerful stories for in the next section. after this quick section. but after this quick break, isn't cheering the break, this isn't cheering the pfizer covid 19 jab has been given green for use in given the green light for use in infants and children from six months age up to four years. months of age up to four years. this was the one age group that hadnt this was the one age group that hadn't been given the
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authorisation, the medicines and healthcare products regulatory agency . the mhra healthcare products regulatory agency. the mhra has said it does meet the standards. i'm going be talking to a couple going to be talking to a couple of people about that after the news . a very good morning. 10:33 news. a very good morning. 10:33 am. rosie wright let's get you a.m. rosie wright let's get you up to date now . secretary has up to date now. secretary has insisted the government's open to talks with health unions, but that their pay demands are not reasonable . it's after the gmb reasonable. it's after the gmb unison and unite unions announced co—ordinated strike action for thousands of ambulance staff on the 21st of december. the gmb union, which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, is also planning a further day of action on the 28th. members say the strike isn't just over their pay but to save the nhs as lives. they say a risk due to staffing . meanwhile, steve barclay's also made clear there is no shortage of antibiotics after a pharmaceutical group warned there were blips in the supply of penicillin that's used to
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treat strep a , the national treat strep a, the national pharmacy association warned there was an issue in the supply of liquid penicillin, which is often given to children, at least nine young children are known died from the known to have died from the infection since september , house infection since september, house pnces infection since september, house prices fallen the biggest prices have fallen the biggest monthly drop since 2008. banking group halifax , as prices fell by group halifax, as prices fell by 2.3% in november, marking the third consecutive month prices dropped. is it wales and the south—west of england? sure. particularly sharp slowdowns in house price growth as demand for rural living slowed after the pandemic . people are being pandemic. people are being advised to warm their homes to at least eight degrees as a cold snap begins overnight from this evening , the met office has evening, the met office has issued a yellow weather warning across parts of wales, northern ireland , northern scotland and ireland, northern scotland and england's coast. england's east coast. forecasters arctic air will forecasters say arctic air will move in with temperatures predicted to drop lows of predicted to drop to lows of minus degrees overnight. minus ten degrees overnight. warnings remain place warnings will remain in place until tomorrow afternoon . but on until tomorrow afternoon. but on your tv, online and dab plus radio, you're up today on .
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gb news. welcome back to tennis today here on gb news. thank you much for joining me. you have been forjoining me. you have been getting especially we're talking about strikes just before with lord moreland and dodsworth and george has , i believe the nhs is george has, i believe the nhs is plagued bad management too many are employed to manage wages, they are on top wages and are essentially getting paid for doing very many. moll simon has said a million people going on strike in the current financial climate. how can they afford to lose so much they can lose so much money? they can never back and somebody never get that back and somebody is saying have 100% support is saying i have 100% support for workers striking . i go for nhs workers striking. i go to hospital today and i see to any hospital today and i see long lines of ambulances trying to drop patients off. people in this country are selfish. it seems they to get drunk on seems they want to get drunk on christmas eve and christmas and new year's eve and subsequently the to subsequently push the nhs to that well, that's been a
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that limits. well, that's been a time you get sense that time when you get the sense that really responsibility for your own probably most own health is probably the most important we could do important thing we could do because. you're not sure that anyone's going be to anyone's going to be there to pick up off the road if you pick you up off the road if you get right. keep get into trouble, right. keep your gp views. gbnews.uk your coming gp views. gbnews.uk another health story. now the pfizer biontech covid 19 jab has been given the green light for use infants children aged six use in infants children aged six months to four years old. the mhra or a has authorised vaccine in this new age group after they said it was found to the uk's regulator standard of safety quality and effectiveness with no new safety concerns identified now nobody's been forced to the jab at the moment, so don't panic. but let's find out quite what is going on here. i'm joined by investigative journalist sonia elijah and dr. chris smith, virologist and consultant at cambridge . sonia, consultant at cambridge. sonia, let me start with you. you followed this story incredibly closely. as one of, i would say, the country's top investigative journalists. and you have
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watched the permissions being given to every age group getting younger and younger and younger. and you've been asking why? what is your conclusion today to why this particular age group is now has been given the green light ? has been given the green light? i just would like to say mhra is , far from an independent regulator, 100% of their funding for regulating medicines comes from directly from the pharmacy to industry . using the exact to industry. using the exact words this is stopped in rain. we said the mhra has moved from watchdog to enabler and they have this is their decision. the decision we made yesterday is the epitome of that. they have enabled the pharmaceutical industry immense profits from really what i would say financially the successful up to ever and clearly the standards have been so . at own research. i
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have been so. at own research. i know looking the pfizer documents released by four european no genome toxicity studies were done no carcinogenicity studies done no safety pharma studies were done . we know that they looked at travel all around the body. they go to the spleen , the liver, the go to the spleen, the liver, the ovaries, the it alarming what you find . you're digging through you find. you're digging through the data . the mercury has failed the data. the mercury has failed in their duty in promoting and protecting the public health. i believe the public have been lied to when it to the safety and ethics efficacy of these things. i've also failed to point the quality as well , which point the quality as well, which i can talk about later , all of i can talk about later, all of which i think is very little pick holes. and i think 85% of the funding of the mhra comes from pharmaceutical companies is
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very well documented. now chris, if i can come to you , if this if i can come to you, if this was an illness which was perilously dangerous to babies, we might , on perilously dangerous to babies, we might, on the balance of probability , look, we don't have probability, look, we don't have the long term yet. we don't know that all signals that are injuries , which are very well injuries, which are very well documented . but the children documented. but the children need this. these new born babies effectively. six months, your tiny need this because they need to be protected . they don't need to be protected. they don't need to be protected. they don't need to be protected more. do to be protected any more. do they, and possibly never they, chris, and possibly never did in my role as a doctor, we don't do anything to anybody unless absolutely in their best interests . and there are interests. and there are patients of a number of ages, including babies as young as six months, that if they catch this new coronavirus that causes covid 19, it could be serious for them . and so what this for them. and so what this legislation effectively does is it says that doctors like myself and, my colleagues who care for paediatric cases in hospital can , if they feel it's in the
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patient's interest legitimately use this agent in those children in order to protect them from infection . it's not mandating infection. it's not mandating that everybody gets this infection or this vaccination. rather, it's not saying you have to do this. what it's saying is that you can legitimately , in that you can legitimately, in a licenced capacity , give this licenced capacity, give this agent if you think it's in the patient's best interest using your independent , impartial your independent, impartial expert go role as a doctor. so if do so imitating that everyone has to have something or this is what we're mandating the public. the role of the mhra is merely to appraise evidence and then to say whether or not on the basis of the evidence presented them that they feel some course of treatment is safe and therefore under circumstances might be used . so have you seen evidence used. so have you seen evidence chris where you would say ? there chris where you would say? there is sufficient numbers of . babies is sufficient numbers of. babies between the age of six month and four who are dying from covid 19
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that a parent came into your surgery and asked that you'd give it them . i'm not a gp. i'm give it them. i'm not a gp. i'm a hospital virologist, and so i go on boardrooms on a weekly bafis go on boardrooms on a weekly basis and i visit the intensive care unit . and over the course care unit. and over the course of the last two years, we have sadly lost children to this infection. now don't know if they've been vaccinated beforehand, it would have changed the outcome for them. but it's possible that it could have done well. but just to be really clear, i think what's really clear, i think what's really important i mean, you hang on. hang on. the other lady went for on ages. so you've given me precise a fraction of the she if my the time she had. if my colleagues who in that colleagues who were in that paediatric unit paediatric intensive care unit or are caring for patients who have inherited immune problems orissues have inherited immune problems or issues that that mean that they can't fight off infections very well if they feel it's in the best interest of child to the best interest of a child to be against a range of be protected against a range of infections, including this one, then i think it's reasonable that evidence that on the balance of evidence that on the balance of evidence that to that that they're allowed to do that in a way that means that they're doing it and not in an off licence might
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licence way which might leave them exposed. absolutely. but i think that statistically, chris, i the children that you're talking about, because we watching will be very watching this, who will be very by just said and, by what you've just said and, statistically zero healthy children have died from covid 19. the children who were in icu will have had pre—existing medical conditions. and i think thatis medical conditions. and i think that is a very different consideration. sonia elijah, let me come back you. i yes, i me come back to you. i yes, i just wanted to say that professor spiegelhalter of cambridge university stated that the risk of a young child dying of covid is lower than actually getting hit by lightning . so getting hit by lightning. so this is an incredibly low risk. they have very innate immunity. young children, i would say the risks of these vaccines and we know that on precedent unprecedented levels of adverse events being reported internationally on vaers on yellow card the risks are overwhelming highly outweigh any benefit a young child would get these vaccines. we know that
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there's waning we know between doses one and two dose to all of the trial that the mhra relied upon went into negative equities, efficacy, negative 2, which means the child is more likely to get covid bites by taking the vaccine when it goes into negative vaccine efficacy. the trial data that this trial was flawed, that a large volume of children did not receive their first third dose because this is a three dose regimen . this is a three dose regimen. and you have to ask yourself why these participants in the trial received their first dose also . received their first dose also. we know that these are based vaccine efficacy on third dose. the fda themselves said it was i'm imprecise and unstable and that this was based on tiny numbers . you're talking about numbers. you're talking about one covid event in the vaccine group and two covid events in the placebo group. this is for
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the placebo group. this is for the age group of six months to 23 months and 2 to 4 year olds to the covid in the vaccine group on five from the placebo group on five from the placebo group . these are saying it is. group. these are saying it is. i'm going to i want to give the last word to you, dr. chris smith. isn't the problem here as well that doctors are busy doctors are so busy looking after people, saving lives, keeping healthy fact , keeping healthy that in fact, there isn't the time and the part of doctors to do the investigations into the pfizer findings, into the trials. and that's why doctors rely people like the mhra to do the research properly . the role of the mhra properly. the role of the mhra is to appraise the evidence to and present it, saying they are on satisfied that the evidence presented justifies the safe use of an agent. but policy comes from the different committee called the cv , the joint called the cv, the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation who decide what we do and don't do with these particular agents . and just to particular agents. and just to pick up on one point that was made, i know david spiegelhalter very he's a friend of very well. he's a friend of mine. the point made was
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mine. and the point he made was was right. which the child at risk of being hit by covid about on par with being by on par with being hit by lightning but that's considering all including healthy all children including healthy children children we're children the children we're considering possibly vaccinating here is not all children. we're talking about a subgroup of children who might be at very high risk if they catch covid. chris, just me add. chris, chris, just let me add. this legitimately, can this means legitimately, you can use those if you use the agent in those if you feel it would be in their best interest. chris it is. it is extraordinary. there isn't it, because to 15 age because in the 12 to 15 age group, the jcb said they could not give a categorical cost benefit conclusion that these injections should be given to that that age group. they handed it over cmo's and the chief it over the cmo's and the chief medical will give medical officer we will give this children both their this to children both their mental and so they don't mental health and so they don't miss school . what do you expect miss school. what do you expect them to say this time with? this age group? well, you're conflating two things, which is the policy of giving a vaccine to an entire population and or offering it as part of a vaccine programme . and that's quite
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programme. and that's quite different from saying you can legitimately and safely use an agent if you decide on a case by case basis . it's agent if you decide on a case by case basis. it's in agent if you decide on a case by case basis . it's in the interest case basis. it's in the interest of a patient to , do that. and of a patient to, do that. and that's the difference what the mhra is saying is on a case by case basis, a hospital doctor or gp could advise the patient and on licence give the vaccine to that age . then let's hope the ai that age. then let's hope the ai were doing earlier in the year and during the during the pandemic was coming up with policy about who to give vaccines to in what age groups and that was all children not a subgroup children. well let's hope therefore that parents fully understand the cost benefit risk and that when they read the headlines that say six month old babies can get the covid month old babies can get the covm jab, month old babies can get the covid jab, that they don't turn up at their gp morning thinking this is something that they should do because they're trying to right and think to do the right thing and think between we the new between us. we got the new cross. i appreciate your time much sonia elijah much this morning. sonia elijah , investigative journalist and dr. chris smith, a virologist. let me know you think jb views
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at gb news scott uk. okay. the uk government will make a decision on whether open decision on whether to open britain's first coal mine britain's first deep coal mine in 30 years. yes, you heard that correctly. the decision has been pushed back the pushed back times by the government. not surprised . government. i'm not surprised. it was supposed to be made in july, was then back to july, but was then put back to august november , then august and november, then december national reporter december on national reporter paul found more paul hawkins has found out more everywhere here there's a nod to what some say is a golden age for the wellington pit chimney. one of 70 mines dug over a three year period . this railway, which year period. this railway, which brought coal to harbour to be ferried away for steel making memorials . and plaques to those memorials. and plaques to those lost their lives underground . lost their lives underground. right the work was dirty and sometimes dangerous, but thousands people had jobs. it gave them purpose . supporting gave them purpose. supporting communities and families . it's
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communities and families. it's nice that it's safer work you get on and not get in and it not to be back again at work after 18 months right up to the taoiseach when everyone was back to work again but cheaper foreign coal shift to foreign coal and a shift to cleaner renewable energy meant that the last mine in, that by 1986, the last mine in, whitehaven shots and is in the hague colliery . yeah that that's hague colliery. yeah that that's called the headgear where the wheels are former miner messenger remembers it well best job you can have it i've got to visit town when i was 14 and never want to do work anywhere else. it was hard manual labour. there was a lot of machinery at that time, you know, it wasn't just and shovels anymore. just pick and shovels anymore. it you made it wasn't a job. right? you made friends there, colleagues. there was a whole community built around it fantastic , was around it. it was fantastic, was just family . around it. it was fantastic, was just family. do you around it. it was fantastic, was just family . do you fancy just like family. do you fancy a job in the new mine if it is opened up my name down on the list since since it was first mentioned. yeah my mine was. probably the first name on the list briefly. a museum . it's now list briefly. a museum. it's now the office of the west cumbria
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mining company. the people that want to build the new a four minute drive away from the old colliery is the site of the new proposed mine called the woodhouse colliery. now it sits on the site of an old abandoned chemical works. the and chemical works that were knocked down in 2012. now the site needs to be cleaned up. a west cumbria mining company say the once up and running it would create up to 500 jobs directly and many more indirectly . it would use more indirectly. it would use old tunnels that run underneath that were used to mine and hydrate to fetch the coal from up to four miles out to sea. and that would ferried away by that would be ferried away by rail wherever needs go. rail to wherever it needs to go. and this is what it will look like costing hundred an d £60 like costing hundred and £60 million. its owners call their mine modern, safe, efficient and green designed to blend into the landscape, diversifying our energy supplies by investing renewables is precisely the way to ensure ourselves the risks of energy . it is
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to ensure ourselves the risks of energy. it is also a to ensure ourselves the risks of energy . it is also a fantastic energy. it is also a fantastic source of new jobs and growth . source of new jobs and growth. that was in november 2022. and it's why lord devin, the chair of the uk's climate change committee, which advises is, the government says, opening the mine is indefensible and would create example of britain saying one thing and doing another. opponents like local resident stephens say there's no economic arguments for the mine , let arguments for the mine, let alone the obvious environmental opposition. i think that we need to see whitehaven its long term future going into green in just and into sustainable jobs because the whole area deserves better . we're only at the start better. we're only at the start of the green revolution . this is of the green revolution. this is going to produce such a tiny fraction of the carbon emissions that contribute to global warming that . it's not going to warming that. it's not going to make a difference either way. i just think it's a totally spunous just think it's a totally spurious argument. i think is the argument of, you know , a
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the argument of, you know, a desperate position . it's 2022 desperate position. it's 2022 and we're standing here having this conversation about reopening a coal mine . reopening a coal mine. supporters of the mine . they supporters of the mine. they argue the coking could end up at one of the uk's steel production plants like this one in wales, meaning no need for green, more expensive foreign imports from places like the usa , australia places like the usa, australia and poland . but the steel and poland. but the steel industry is making no comment about this new mine , instead about this new mine, instead focusing on efforts decarbonise by switching to furnaces that rely on electricity instead of coal. say yes to the mine and the conservative party can sticking to the 2019 manifesto commitment to level up say no , commitment to level up say no, and the promise to lead the global fight against climate change.in global fight against climate change. in the same manifesto. becomes harder to argue difficult choices for a new government. paul hawkins . difficult choices for a new government. paul hawkins. gb
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news we are back here with the papers with my guest to see this . keep calling it evening. why am i calling it evening, lord doddie weir? because there's no daylight because it's daylight in here. because it's so it's we're not so dark. it's like we're not some of underground some kind of underground bunkers, light. bunkers, that natural light. we've no what time of day we've no idea what time of day it is. we're we're in the it is. we're in. we're in the news laboratory down here. jonathan moreland. where jonathan moreland. this is where all happens at all the hard thinking happens at this . thinking this desk right. i was thinking about you . you're flattering us. about you. you're flattering us. i was thinking you when . keir i was thinking you when. keir starmer was talking in leeds a couple of days ago . his starmer was talking in leeds a couple of days ago. his big announcement was that he's going to put a big pen through the house laws and i thought, you're not going have any boozy lunches. well, i don't have boozy you know, boozy anyway. as you know, that's you and your. 800 of you just, you know, sponging off the state. what did you think? well as i. as i was, i think i was in there for 10 hours last week i thought that one lunch when at £3.20 an hour that worked out that i thought i'm actually quite cheap but the bigger point is it's a slightly farcical
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suggestion. yes house of lords has been very complacent with changing itself. there are far many people. it's been brought into disrepute by sort of endless spans and retreads being put into it by successive prime ministers who put you in that? oh, i'm i don't want to get into spats and, retreads. you know, i'm very lucky to be that. of course, i was put in there by michael howard something like 17 years ago, but that's what got into that. but you had working you well, i was you were you were. well, i was a minister for years and i, i did that free of charge. i give my house of lords . £320 to charity. house of lords. £320 to charity. so but i don't see any reason why people shouldn't be paid for it. and rightly so . you know, we it. and rightly so. you know, we spend a lot of time looking at legislation changing, improving it, etc, the frustration for the government is that there's always an imbalance. so there are more labour and liberal
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democrat peers can vote against as we've rarely win votes as a conservative government. so obviously governments get frustrated and i'm sure gordon brown, when he was prime minister, would get frustrated that the lords would not support all their legislation which shows that the lords is an independent place. we've got also got a lot of crossbenchers but there is an imbalance it needed looking for looking at i put a paper to the previous prime minister's of what should happen. prime minister's of what should happen . i did research into for happen. i did research into for example, an age limit which i think the public can understand and recognise of what's what the initial 179 that got rid of 250 by the way , or 250 would have by the way, or 250 would have had to retire that have brought us down to the age just. it is a just i grant you but i said how old how you. yes i'm nearly 70. i know that's very unkind. my age . you'd have another 20 years age. you'd have another 20 years in there. thank you very much . i in there. thank you very much. i wouldn't have another 20 years. do we need, i think in a reform
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course we need them. when you think that the lord, the lords have the law lords in it, they've got former head of the police, they've got the head of the defence defence chief of defence staff, they've got eminent business people who bnng eminent business people who bring successful. that's true. big landowners , etc. there is a big landowners, etc. there is a very solid justification that there is a very eclectic bunch of people , of course, and of of people, of course, and of course there are too . and there course there are too. and there are one or two bad apples . there are one or two bad apples. there are one or two bad apples. there are in every organisation they need.i are in every organisation they need. i think in a nutshell we need. i think in a nutshell we need the house of lords. i'm on the fence as to how much should be elected or not elected. the balance power in this country is ancient and it's unusual. you know, we have the executive, we had the house of commons, we had the of lords. i'd say the the house of lords. i'd say the executive much at the executive has too much at the moment. how hundreds moment. look how many hundreds of instruments of statutory instruments go through . they just get waved through. they just get waved through. they just get waved through commons the through by the commons in the lords. the house lords. i'd like to see the house way through in the lords. i'd like see the house of lords ask for rethinking, do more
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for more rethinking, do more vetoing. they should be difficult. should difficult. they should be obstructed. point obstructed. that's the point that's their that's where they add their check power . now check and balance power. now it's all about busy lunches. i completely disagree with any catering being subsidised. and if go back a few years if you go back a few years i looked at figures and the you know amount of per lord is know the amount of per lord is more what somebody on jobseeker's allowance gets. i'm not arguing for more jobseeker's at either, by the way , just at all either, by the way, just saying disgusting that saying it's disgusting that people mainly are people who are mainly are getting subsidised lunches . the getting subsidised lunches. the other is that while house other thing is that while house of lords is full of expertise because of all the political appointments know you've mentioned there some mentioned spuds. there are some people that who probably shouldn't you think shouldn't be there. if you think about somebody who's i think about it, somebody who's i think commonly known lino. he's commonly known is lino. he's a hairdresser. it's funny, hairdresser. but it's funny, there hairdresser exactly. there is hairdresser. exactly. so was getting an for so he was getting an for services hairdressing but services to hairdressing but basically david cameron's hairdresser is in the house of lords. so i think that it's gone a little bit out of control. it's almost like grace and favour. it's almost like royalty is favour. people is grace and favour. people shouldn't just think shouldn't be there. i just think that on a couple of things firstly we've i think
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firstly we've got to i think it's unlikely we're very it's highly unlikely we're very subsidised. i think you would pay subsidised. i think you would pa y £3.50 for a cup of coffee. pay £3.50 for a cup of coffee. that's a subsidy in my view. i don't consider i go to the lords to have a subsidy meal. i don't it's , it's perfectly price and it's, it's perfectly price and think that's law needs to be corrected on that she writes on laura you're right i'll come back with something on that. can i just finish what know we do have to go to the news because rosie wright is waiting but we will get back to this actually i think in the next. rosie, i'm sorry we're late to the sorry that we're late to the news and here's weather .
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good morning. it's coming up to 11:04. i'm gracie bryant, keeping you up to date . the
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keeping you up to date. the health secretary has insisted the government is open to talks with health unions, but that their pay demands are not reasonable. it's after gmb, unison and unions announced coordinated strike action for thousands of ambulance staff on the 21st of december. the gmb union, which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, is also planning a further day of action on the 28th. members say the strike isn't just over their pay the strike isn't just over their pay but also to save the nhs . i pay but also to save the nhs. i say the staffing crisis is putting lives at risk . steve putting lives at risk. steve barclay acknowledged there are pressures , said he's willing to pressures, said he's willing to negotiate . it's not reasonable negotiate. it's not reasonable to expect a further negotiate. it's not reasonable to expect a furthe r £28 billion to expect a further £28 billion in pay uplifts in line with inflation. and it's because , as inflation. and it's because, as you say, there are many other pressures within the nhs that we need to address to get those patient backlogs down, to address the operations that people are waiting for , to people are waiting for, to address the pressures at on primary care when are trying to phone a gp and also to support ambulances and paramedics .
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ambulances and paramedics. meanwhile, steve barclay's also insisted there's no shortage of antibiotics after a pharmaceutical group warned there blips in the supply of penicillin used to treat strep a. the national pharmacy association had warned there was an issue in the supply chain of liquid penicillin, which is often given to children. the health secretary insisted it was not a concern and that supplies could be moved to areas of greater demand if needed. at least nine young children and two have died from the infection. september the public are being warned to be extra vigilant at world cup events and in crowded places throughout the festive periods . counter—terror festive periods. counter—terror police threat from police say the threat from terrorism very real . terrorism remains very real. authorities say the run up to christmas is always high risk when it comes to security threats, there's no threats, although there's no intelligence a planned attack intelligence of a planned attack . in the us, the democrats have secured an outright majority in the senate after winning a hard fought seat in the state of georgia. raphael warnock, re—election against the trump candidate. president joe biden's
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party now holds a 51 seat majority in the upper chamber congress. that could make it easier . advance democrat easier. advance democrat nominees for judicial and administrative posts. the republican party holds a slight majority in the house of representatives . china has representatives. china has announced the most sweeping changes to its covid rules since the pandemic began three years ago, after protests against the measures broke out across the country . the nationwide easing country. the nationwide easing of rules is the strongest sign yet that china's preparing to live with the virus . the ten new live with the virus. the ten new measures include an end to testing for those travelling within the country and people within the country and people with or mild with asymptomatic or mild symptoms will be able now to recover than recover at home rather than having go to a quarantine having to go to a quarantine centre in germany. 25 members of a far right terrorist group have been detained on suspicion of aiming to overthrow the government . of those arrested government. of those arrested one is an active soldier with the special forces command. several others are reservists. the suspects are accused of carrying actions based on their ideology , including procuring ideology, including procuring equipment , ideology, including procuring equipment, recruiting new
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members and holding shooting lessons. it's after a series of raids across 11 german states involving 3000 police officers and security officials . house and security officials. house pnces and security officials. house prices have fallen for the biggest monthly drop since 2008. the banking group halifax says pnces the banking group halifax says prices fell 2.3% in november, marking the third consecutive full month on month. it said wells in the south west of england saw particularly sharp slowdowns in house price growth as demand for rural living slowed the pandemic . slowed after the pandemic. people are being advised to warm their homes to at least 18 degrees as a cold begins overnight from evening. the met office has issued a yellow warning across parts of wales northern northern scotland and england's coast. forecasters arctic air will move in with temperatures predicted to drop to lows of minus ten degrees overnight. warnings remain in place until tomorrow afternoon , place until tomorrow afternoon, up to date on gb news. i'll bnng up to date on gb news. i'll bring you more as it happens . bring you more as it happens. now back to beth .
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now back to beth. very good morning . back to bev very good morning. back to bev turner today on gb news tv. debbie radio and online. the prime minister is under significant pressure to fast track a strike busting legislation , even as britain legislation, even as britain faces the biggest wave of industrial action in decades follows news of further rail strikes and now ambulance staff announcing to strike. could this be a crisis of chaos ? the be a crisis of chaos? the government is set to fall short to full. the three 32,000 homes short in their aims for the 2016 and 2021 affordable housing building . so should the building. so should the government revise its plans for affordable housing, or will they continue fall short of the mark? i'm going to be joined by our economics and business editor, liam halligan in just a moment. and also my panel will be back. laura dodsworth , author,
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laura dodsworth, author, thinker, commentator . and lord thinker, commentator. and lord jonathan marlin , armed with his jonathan marlin, armed with his wealth of experience in the conservative party, is going to be looking at some of the biggest big stories of day. so do not go anywhere . they are do not go anywhere. they are going to be here in about 20 minutes time. of course. the show is nothing without you and your a twitter poll show is nothing without you and your on a twitter poll show is nothing without you and your on this a twitter poll show is nothing without you and your on this this twitter poll show is nothing without you and your on this this isitter poll show is nothing without you and your on this this is aboutoll show is nothing without you and your on this this is about the going on this this is about the strikes. the biggest story in town as more than 10,000 ambulance drivers are set to go on over the christmas on strike over the christmas penod. on strike over the christmas period . asking whether you period. i am asking whether you support or they being support them or are they being selfish and putting people's lives at risk ? 73% of you at the lives at risk? 73% of you at the moment are not supporting the paramedics and the ambulance teams . their intentions to teams. their intentions to strike , keep your boats coming . strike, keep your boats coming. in now . now, who would want to in now. now, who would want to be in charge ? the country at the be in charge? the country at the moment, while arguably the man who is there has caused a lot of these problems in the first place, under pressure now
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place, but is under pressure now to through some strike to get through some strike busting . what that busting legislation. what that could look like, only could look like, i can only dread as britain faces biggest wave industrial action since wave of industrial action since thatcher era, the ambulance workers have become the latest groups announce industrial action month than action this month more than 100,000 expected to 100,000 staff are expected to walk out over the christmas period. and joining me now is political correspondent tom harwood tom. what are we expecting to hear from downing street today about the strikes as this pressure builds builds ? as this pressure builds builds? well, there's certainly huge amount of pressure building, building, asking the government to do really what it said it would be doing for the last, gosh, seven years for the first time, it was in 2015 manifesto that the conservative party promised to bring in. what's called minimum service requirements on essential services such as the railways. now these rules would mean that a minimum of service would have to be delivered, no matter whether or not a strike was voted out for that would be a
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legal requirement. this is legislation that is in place in several european countries that lower level of strike disruption than we see in the uk and yet has been reported the last few days that david cameron did a grubby deal with some of the unions to not implement this promise legislation back in 2016 in return for these unions support saying the remain campaign some supporting a vote for the uk to remain within the european union. of course, some unions had been more eurosceptic the past and cameron wanted to bnng the past and cameron wanted to bring onside in that campaign. well, after that the conservative leaves did then promise it again when it was brought forward in a private member's bill by. chris philp, who was briefly and liz truss, his cabinet, now is a junior minister at home office. but of course, private member's bills go nowhere without the backing of the government and really the government has said that it would be willing bringing through this sort of legislation
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time and time again. it's yet, however, to there's been much of rishi sunak for moving slowly on this . it was expected that this this. it was expected that this sort of legislation would be part of liz truss, his big package of supply side reform andindeed package of supply side reform and indeed we were expecting that to be brought forward in the before. liz truss down as prime minister. however, this administration has taken really some might say that foot off the pedal if liz truss was criticised for going quickly, too quickly, perhaps in some areas, if anything rishi sunak may well be criticised for going too slowly . there's certainly too slowly. there's certainly now pressure building up from his own backbenches to get this sort of legislation on the statute books as quickly as possible. thank you, tom tom harwood there down at westminster for gb news. now the pubuc westminster for gb news. now the public accounts committee says that the government will miss its target of providing 180,000
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affordable uk homes between 2016 and 2021. the affordable house programme was allocated over and 2021. the affordable house programme was allocated ove r £11 programme was allocated over £11 billion of funding over five years, but it's still come up short by some 32,000 new builds. earlier, the chair of the public accounts committee, meg hillier , spoke to gb news. have a listen . look, this is a piece of listen. look, this is a piece of plague on all the houses. really? not in every case. there are some some very good local authorities some excellent authorities doing some excellent work true that there work. but it is true that there are that reluctant are councils that are reluctant to but we know that to see homes. but we know that that's partly why there's been a conservative party rebellion on this. was also we this. but there was also we think the government centrally, you to keep proper track of you to keep a proper track of the numbers and you need to have a bit more of an aspiration on socially rented. we really socially rented. what we really need mature conversation need is a mature conversation between local and national government see is government, but what we see is all screaming warfare which all this screaming warfare which isn't delivering homes for the people desperately them people who desperately need them . she's looking for . okay, well, she's looking for mature conversation and the absence that you email absence that would you email liam halligan . help me liam halligan. help me understand again. what's going on? this your i know that your
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economics and business editor but you're also a bit of a specialist when it comes the specialist when it comes to the housing market, aren't you? it's been said. yes, has been housing market, aren't you? it's beenyour. yes, has been housing market, aren't you? it's beenyour. yes,but has been housing market, aren't you? it's beenyour. yes,but you'veeen housing market, aren't you? it's beenyour. yes,but you've at said your your but you've at least one book on this topic haven't you. what's going haven't you. so what's going wrong are we not going wrong here. why are we not going to get the that we so to get the houses that we so desperately. it's it's long desperately. it's a it's long standing problem . there's a lack standing problem. there's a lack of permission in a lot of planning, permission in a lot of planning, permission in a lot of the planning permissions that aren't are given on used aren't given are given on used so—called phantom homes because big developers don't want to use them they want to sit on them, prevents more businesses getting them talking about them what talking about specifically affordable specifically is affordable homes, which are usually 6 to 70% of the local market. rent which developers are obliged to when they build other houses for commercial. that's a relatively new kind of law in the last 20 years. and then there's social housing, what we would call a council housing and money, council housing and of money, and there's massive shortage and there's a massive shortage of too. now, we just heard of that, too. now, we just heard from she's a labour mp from my kelly, she's a labour mp , shouldn't think of her , but we shouldn't think of her as a labour mp in this context because she is chair the
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because she is the chair of the pubuc because she is the chair of the public committee that public accounts committee that is the important committee is the most important committee in commons. it in the of commons. it scrutinises its government finances and the treasury and it's always chaired by a widely respected opposition mp. so when labourin respected opposition mp. so when labour in the tories chair vice versa. i don't think she's making a party political point because there's a lack of affordable housing and social housing rights across the board. there are 1.2 million people on the waiting list for council houses , as we saw last week, houses, as we saw last week, just the tip of the iceberg when we hear of young children dying in council houses. unfortunately because of mould and other infections , because those infections, because those council houses. so badly maintained . and then there's maintained. and then there's a lot of people living in social housing that's provided by the private sector , but the state private sector, but the state pays for it with housing benefit. our housing benefit bill is up abov e £30 billion, bill is up above £30 billion, absolutely huge amount of money because there is a lack of social housing. it's an interesting little problem. it's partly down to planning
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commission. it's partly because people don't want homes often built in their areas. people don't want homes often built in their areas . and those built in their areas. and those so—called nimby , as some people so—called nimby, as some people would call them, a pejorative term, clearly they would disagree , but they tend to be disagree, but they tend to be very, very powerful, particularly in conservative, but elsewhere too . you know, we but elsewhere too. you know, we have this news from keir starmer earlier in the week. it didn't wait. i think it was on monday talking about the fact that he would like to devolve a lot of powers into local areas and take them out westminster, saying them out of westminster, saying this that lens this situation through that lens would beneficial. do you would be beneficial. do you think with the housing market? because the locals have because in a way the locals have too power sometimes too much power sometimes in those the those areas. that's why the building happening. building isn't happening. it's very, to make very, very difficult to make that just i was on that happen. look, just i was on gb news is talking about the fact that michael gove a pretty determined he is community housing and levelling up secretary he again he had to climb down he had to tell 60 of his own mps that were about to rebel on the government's levelling up bill that housing targets for local authorities
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would quote not be mandate tree but would be guidance only. and it was only on that basis that these 50 or 60 tory mpps decided to rebel, and he did that even though his labour number, lisa nandy, said, we will vote for this levelling up bill so you can trounce your rebels we can we can help you beat your rebels michael gove and get these housing mandatory targets through . but the government through. but the government rishi said i can michael gove didn't go for that because they know how unpopular it is, particularly in where it's sort of, you know , tory versus lib of, you know, tory versus lib dem seats like we saw in chesham and amersham . yeah. and the and amersham. yeah. and the outskirts of affluent northwest london. so these are really, really difficult problem. meanwhile you know, youngsters can't buy a home. meanwhile, fertility in this country is falling because women of child, you know, when they have their first child on average is , 27, first child on average is, 27, 28, almost half of women of those age living in rented accommodation, it's difficult in many people's minds to start a
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family if you are in rented accommodation, living with your mates from university or your mates from university or your mates from university or your mates from work and this is a major, major problem. i wouldn't be surprised if keir starmer tackled housing when it comes to prime minister's questions later this afternoon at midday, of course, not least because as i said labour did offer to put this tory legislation through with labour votes in order to embarrass the government. an easy goal, doesn't it? it does feel like an easy go and of course keir starmer is not going to want to talk about the strikes is he. because of course labour always ambivalent on the strikes lot of strikes because get a lot of money we're being open and money if we're being open and honest, on gb news honest, which we are on gb news from the trade union movement just does tories get lots of money those property money from those property developers who too developers who don't want too many built because they many houses built because they like to keep their market power? and the one bit of good news on the housing this week is the housing market this week is that gove, while that michael gove, while announcing that climbdown, he also he would also announced that he would like to see a competition and markets authority inquiry into
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the housebuilding and the cma have agreed that they're certainly minded to. consider that in the new year in january because feels rightly in my because he feels rightly in my view. i've written about it for many the property many years that the big property companies , they're too powerful, companies, they're too powerful, they're dominant they're an they're too dominant they're an oligopoly, if you like . they oligopoly, if you like. they dominate the market and there's not enough competition. and that's reason, in my view, that's a big reason, in my view, why house prices stay high and why house prices stay high and why so many people get a raw deal why so many people get a raw deal. yeah. thank you, liam. brilliant, as always . right. brilliant, as always. right. there's touch. there's a poll there's a touch. there's a poll going on. get in touch. getting touches about on twitter. touches about that on twitter. i'm you, than 10,000 i'm asking you, more than 10,000 ambulance drivers go ambulance drivers will go on strike christmas strike over the christmas period. them or period. do you support them or are being selfish and are they being selfish and putting lives at risk? 73% of you are not in support at the moment. do get in touch with me if you are a paramedic, if you are an ambulance driver , should are an ambulance driver, should we should probably say paramedics rather than ambulance drivers. do you know specific difference? an ambulance difference? you're an ambulance driver a paramedic. you driver, you're a paramedic. you might be the ambulance. might not be the ambulance. you might not be the ambulance. you
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might back. well, might be in the back. well, that's okay. well, you can clarify. you have the answers to everything right after the break. i'm going to have my guest to through guest back here to go through some the headlines of the some of the headlines of the morning, including possibly some news trump and all news about donald trump and all sorts of fantastic stories. we're going to through them we're going to go through them in moment. see you in a in just a moment. see you in a minute .
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welcome back to gb news. it is 1123. this is bev turner today. thank you very much for joining me. my panel are back here this morning. can you call it a panel when that's only two of you? you don't really don't re panel, are you you just you just my a gobs they're here. i saw that said you had said we were sitting on a with you was sitting on a sofa with you was sitting on the uncomfortable a the most uncomfortable form a conservative minister, a troublemaker jonathan troublemaker lord jonathan moreland, journalist moreland, author and journalist at right at laura dodsworth. right jonathan, you know , headmistress
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jonathan, you know, headmistress calling me a troublemaker you are a little bit you all you know lady hussey you saying who's been the subject of this terrible furore all this way? i wouldn't say i know well, but when they was that attack on the house of commons and the whole house of commons and the whole house of commons and the whole house of lords and commons were actually happen to be having lunch and we were driven into the basement and saw two or 3 hours. we had to sit in a basement waiting for the lords of commons to be cleared and she's a remarkable woman . she, she's a remarkable woman. she, you know, she had said on a wastepaper basket for about 3 hours, upton wastepaper basket with no chairs and, you know , with no chairs and, you know, that woman's had served the queen would be horrified by all this service. the queen for 40 years unpaid, almost dedicate it to meeting people , being nice to to meeting people, being nice to them, introducing them and to end up having done to her is i think , a shocking thing to have think, a shocking thing to have the whole conversation reported by the person who should have
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the conversation with no right of reply, with no right of reply. and so i feel deeply upset. reply. and so i feel deeply upset . for lady hussey . she has upset. for lady hussey. she has done great to this country and actually i think the reaction of the royal family to the twitter storm was wrong . i agree. it was storm was wrong. i agree. it was weak. and you think and in your view that if the queen was here, she have handled it necessarily in that way. well, i can't we can't say her, but i just think this is this is this is madness. it says i think that the reaction from the royal family is such a shame. but also petsmart is just the age we live in. lady susan has she's been trialled media and by social media is this is a mob rule reaction and i mean first of all i think that we should treat elderly with respect . she may elderly with respect. she may have handled the question it's hard to know without her rights reply, but still make allowances for elderly people . and it's not for elderly people. and it's not really a terrible , unreasonable really a terrible, unreasonable question . it may not have been
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question. it may not have been phrased as diplomatically as it could be. we don't know. we weren't there, but i think that weren't there, but i think that we should show and give allowances to people. i think the problem with this trial by social media is this is us very fast. we don't even have a 24 hour news cycle. it's not even an hourly cycle. it's faster, faster, faster. and people think, think they need to appease reactions almost . yeah. appease reactions almost. yeah. can i just have to shorten this due process as well as as well as calming down letting ten. can i give you an example two quick examples. i've just chaired a big commonwealth conference where from black where we've people from black africa, the far east , etc, africa, from the far east, etc, attending the conference, the running was i'll tell you where i'm from before you need to ask me. yeah, and that's that's how some said to me this is this is put you know race racism back long time just bring this to a point so i think that's one example. the other thing is i had wonderful taxi driver here and i said to him because i
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didn't want to ask him. he's from i said, you're from ghana. said, how did you guess? i because i go to ghana, i meet lots ghana and through my commonwealth work was so commonwealth work he was so pleased me he was going pleased to tell me he was going back to accra for six weeks and that he'd loved working over here a good exchange here and we had a good exchange about i think the balance about it. i think the balance was needs to be was wrong and this needs to be redressed and i want to see a turning point in this of this plague of locusts attack via social media that gives people the right to say, i hadn't thought of it as being more than just story as opposed to a racist one necessarily write story. no, no, no. i'm interested to hear your points. quarter of a million unemployed young planning young britons laura are planning on job. what i. this is on never a job. what i. this is such a tragic story . now, i want such a tragic story. now, i want to be really careful, though, that we frame all of these young people work shy . i think people just as work shy. i think thatis people just as work shy. i think that is one reaction that's going to potentially from this story. i actually have a huge amount of sympathy for young people. have teenagers . i know people. i have teenagers. i know you do. i do want to go on about lockdown to cover the whole time. but the fact is that right
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now are thoroughly now they are thoroughly disaffected education, are really let them down. and i think that some of them don't have great deal of hope in the have a great deal of hope in the future. has been quite future. gosh this has been quite a show. been on a gloomy show. we've been on synthetic gloomy news topics. so welcome to my new job. yeah, hi. thanks me. you thanks for happy me. but you know is any wonder know what's is it any wonder young people think there's not much aim much point or nothing to aim for? i think that's a much bigger issue here . i mean, you bigger issue here. i mean, you can point things , say can point out small things, say we might need a short, sharp shock and sanctions to the shock and some sanctions to the benefit yeah, it benefit system. yeah, it shouldn't be a choice. shouldn't even be a choice. ooh, i don't work because can i don't wanna work because i can have however, there's have benefits. however, there's something bigger as a society. i'm sure that we're really i'm not sure that we're really that clear on our values and on who we are , you know, where's who we are, you know, where's that? where's our ambition? where are that goals and what are they aiming for? you know, when i bought a house, the salary to property ratio was something like five times and now it's nine times. so i think they're ladder and they're looking the ladder and wondering going wondering how they're ever going to get on. and there's another issue but it's issue to bring up, but it's marijuana now because been
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marijuana use now because been legalised in other countries and in some states there are lots of tv shows that really normalise it. marijuana use has soared in the last couple of decades . it's the last couple of decades. it's overtaken alcohol . young people overtaken alcohol. young people in this country , and it saps in this country, and it saps ambition , saps energy. it's a ambition, saps energy. it's a depressed move. and i think there are just so big picture issues that feed this story. i think you're right. i think there is a silent pandemic amongst teenage years of marijuana use in this country that we all are this story about nobody wanting to go or how many of them don't want to go to work might be part of it. you've got grown up. kids are not qualified to well, when you to answer this. well, when you are, i'm guessing what to answer this. well, when you are, thinking i'm guessing what to answer this. well, when you are, thinking isn guessing what to answer this. well, when you are, thinking is yourzssing what to answer this. well, when you are, thinking is your children1at i'm thinking is your children have grown up, presumably have careers jobs, and make a careers and jobs, and make a living themselves. what do living for themselves. what do you changed ? i'm just you think has changed? i'm just so out of touch with what your children are thinking and doing ? because i've lost it through covid i lost period. yeah. so i i'm absolutely fascinating to hear what you two have say.
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yeah, i really can't, but i can . all i can say is it's odd that people really don't understand that there is a need to work, that there is a need to work, that you have to earn a living to survive and maybe they feel that the state should be satisfying them. and they'd say if that's attitude, then there's, there's a serious problem, a serious conflict. can i say something about the state satisfying them. i this bodes very, very badly for our country. we keep up i trials the idea of basic income you so sorry so the idea of hundreds of thousands of millions of young people not working are receiving or state benefits , whatever you or state benefits, whatever you want to call it. where do they go? what do they fill the time with it is at times like this that society is really at risk. extreme political movements, totalitarian people totalitarian ism. young people do energy . they do they do have an energy. they do they do have an energy. they do they do have an energy. they do they do have do something with their time. if it's not, what will time. and if it's not, what will fill lives . i time. and if it's not, what will fill lives. i think fill their lives. i think actually there's way which actually there's a way in which want a kind of societal precipice. this is a huge india run on our barometer of size so
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that if hundreds of thousands young don't want to get a job, we have massive problems . and we have massive problems. and it's the facts. i think also know what they doing. is it just to to just tap you in what are teenagers do me my son's working full time. he's doing all right. but him but then don't give him a choice. right 19 years old. i wouldn't. him just wouldn't. i wouldn't him just sit at home watching netflix all day. that's what i'd really like to know, that's the to do. you know, that's the thing, isn't they to thing, isn't it? they want to look at tech. some them look at their tech. some of them say smoking it's quite say we smoking weed. it's quite fun. like it. no purpose. fun. they like it. no purpose. you your so much to you raised your kids so much to have a genuine, strong of have a genuine, strong sense of purpose. think now . but in purpose. well, think now. but in the morning we all try. oh, you'll try do that. it's, you'll try to do that. but it's, you'll try to do that. but it's, you i can't as i said, i you know, i can't as i said, i can't really comment on this. i just think it's a different generation what i'm. yeah generation to what i'm. yeah going through, you know, i'm going through grandchildren. okay. right most come in a moment. but this quick moment. but after this quick break, approach 12:00 break, as we approach 12:00 with pmqs course, i'm pmqs starting of course, i'm asking my panel what they would like the prime minister like to ask the prime minister but importantly, would but more importantly, what would you like to ask them, too? that's after your morning
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that's all after your morning news . you know, i know . good news. you know, i know. good morning. it's 1132. news. you know, i know. good morning. it's1132. i'm gracie, right . let's get you up to date right. let's get you up to date . i'm afraid we're back. right. let's get you up to date . i'm afraid we're back . you in . i'm afraid we're back. you in the news for the news? straight after this .
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break welcome back to tennis today. my guests are still here. a lot done at the moment. and laura dodsworth , now it's prime dodsworth, now it's prime minister's questions, of course, at midday, 1135. now and i like to ask my guests on this day what you would ask the prime minister doubts with what minister lower doubts with what would say would you ask prime minister say if the joy of standing if you had the joy of standing there as independent an there as an independent an independent. to be independent. i'd have to be independent. i'd have to be independent . i independent right now. i couldn't vote for any of them. okay. so talking about okay. so are we talking about me? one with room in a
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me? one on one with a room in a spotlight on the prime minister, chained to a chair. is one chained to a chair. is this one question? long have i got? question? how long have i got? so one question. if i was just fun sizing about the first one and wonderful would and how wonderful that would be. but one question. but no, you've got one question. all my question all right. my one question would be plan growth is. be what the plan growth is. i think we've obviously we've had all these different fiscal many budgets. vacillating all these different fiscal many bu know vacillating all these different fiscal many bu know going vacillating all these different fiscal many bu know going to cillating all these different fiscal many bu know going to be ating . i know we're going to be talking the high talking about the high street later show. i think this later in the show. i think this is just a huge concern. i personally think putting up corporation tax from 19% to 25% was a kick in the knees to small businesses . and one of the most businesses. and one of the most urgent questions for the country, for our medium and long term future is what's the plan for growth? yeah i don't see a plan for growth . i think if you plan for growth. i think if you did that and pmqs liz truss would stand up and say, i've already tried that one, ms. dodsworth, not going to dodsworth, it's not going to wash. what do you think? what would i would totally would you. well, i would totally if able i would ask if i was able to, i would ask the same question as was worrying, just worrying, isn't it? but just amplify on what laura said. you know people haven't know what? people haven't realised this is an investment strike. going to invest
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strike. i'm not going to invest in new business. i'm not in any new business. i'm not going to. and as harold wilson actually said and one of my friends told me about this as we were on the show, is that, you know, one person striking is another person losing their job. so that strikes would be so that's that strikes would be my are you going to do my what are you going to do about how's it linked about strikes how's it linked to growth. been no growth growth. there has been no growth in country. that won't in this country. that won't be because have they're because shell have said they're not this totally not invest in this totally pulling people the a pulling out people the same a lot of people i know are not going to invest any more with these tax rates and so we need to have a plan of where this country is going as set out, what the brexit dividend is going to be and until we have that , well, if we get in going to be and until we have that, well, if we get in a terrible mess, if you fix growth, ultimately fixed rates because of course straight strikes chaos and uncertainty accompany high inflation and low economic growth. the strikes we're having now are totally predicted when. we started printing money, cutting down moneyfacts response, shot the
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economy. nice surprise. economy. it's nice surprise. we've got strikes now lost most of eight in rishi sunak and jeremy hunt's. think they jeremy hunt's. well i think they they are motivated to balance they are motivated to balance the books to stockpile money that they have a good run by the way because energy prices are falling quite dramatically . so falling quite dramatically. so it won't be as bad as they thought it was going to be . so thought it was going to be. so maybe they're doing this, too. and i don't know. i wish i did. maybe they're doing this to say in 6 to 12 months time. okay. we've recouped the loss and the cost of covid. and here now is tax reductions. and here the post brexit future. so this country which everyone is dying to hear. yeah but they just just strikes will prevent this growth from happening because the cost of strike is so huge. the cost of strike is so huge. the cost of rail strike is so huge to the taxpayer, it's horrendous. the heavens, the railways is talking about law. this story in the papers today are urged to heat
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their main rooms as the cold snap begins. well, oh , my snap begins. well, oh, my goodness. our thermostats are supposed to be going up and down in line with constantly vacillating and down advice from authorities. the first point to make is, i don't need the government to tell me what to do with heating in my house. it's my house as well. what we've got save the planet law. it's all about the green agenda. we've all this sense of social, all got this sense of social, responsible to well, you responsible to say, well, you know, after know, this one nudge after another to reduce our another to get to reduce our energy if you put age of abundance into google you will find plethora of stories. it's very long ago that macron told his pitiful nation at the age of abundance is over. how awful when you lead, it tells you that the age of abundance is over. what a measuring . so either the what a measuring. so either the biggest nudge of course is price people do want to turn the heating down because they can't afford it. i've already turned my thermostat to 19 degrees because my energy bills are staggering . all these nudges, staggering. all these nudges, you report that's you know, this report that's come out to the house of lords
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on change to people to net on change to get people to net zero what their constant trying to influence xi below the to do is influence xi below the level consciousness conform level of consciousness conform to policies. net policies, to these policies. net policies, which is just one set of hair shirts after another . if the age shirts after another. if the age of abundance is over, we're going into an age of immiseration where we're just shivering in some kind of really hideous neo feudal world. anyway, here we are. the story is telling us to turn heating up because it's no great surprise. but if your house is a freezing die of cold home, winter deaths two a little boy. two years ago, a little boy. a two years ago, a little boy. a two years ago, a little boy. a two year died from black two year old boy died from black mould his house. his was not mould in his house. his was not fit for human habitation in a modern prosper risk happy society needs heat so i think last month it was turn your heating down to fight putin and save the planet. now it's turn your heating up because otherwise you might die when that story was out, this this one, and then there was something last week, something similar last week, i think, about, you think, jonathan, about, you know, hunt know, the government jeremy hunt saying to we'll turn saying we've got to we'll turn up . you imagine up boilers. can you imagine margaret telling margaret thatcher ever telling people your boil down?
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people turn your boil down? wouldn't she have said this is none my business? well, none of my business? well, i can't imagine anyone wants can't imagine why anyone wants treat children. you treat us like children. you know, so well but know, as laura so well put. but you know, we kind of know when it's too cold and we are put on the jumper or the heating the jumper or turn the heating up. obviously there are up. but obviously there are there is a section of the population that hasn't got that opportunity and of course, there should be ways of telling we don't need to tell the whole nafion don't need to tell the whole nation to turn your heating up or down and course, this isn't saving planet , turning your saving the planet, turning your heating we heating up. whereas we were saving planet we week ago. so i, l, saving planet we week ago. so i, i, i totally agree with what laura has said so well . yeah, it laura has said so well. yeah, it baffles me. it really does. i mean, we like to say we're not stupid to live in this paternalistic world where every nanny state it is, which is a nanny state it is, which is a nanny state, she's telling you what you're supposed to be looking at. sadiq khan is planning to direct a statue to a girl who died from chronic , girl who died from chronic, which it turns out revised coroner report said may also
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been contributed to by air pollution. so sadiq is putting a statue . yeah, the funds have statue. yeah, the funds have been raised from from different sources, including public funds. so, you know, that statue tells environment, environment, environments on the pedestal there's no statue to the two year old who died of black. there's no statues to the many thousands of old people die from cold every year. know right talking of our society the landscape in we live the high streets are infested by the changing face of our high street. and anybody who goes out to the shops today we will see shops are boarded up. there are more charity shops. what is replacement banks and department stores on high streets? stores on our high streets? laura, this is this is the most one of the most depressing stories i've so far. and there have of depressing have been a lot of depressing stories, let's be honest, absolute my local high absolute me, my local high street, can't really street, i can't really go clothes shopping more. let's clothes shopping any more. let's just personal just bring it down to personal realism. . where realism. escapism is no. where do you go shopping? look online. at there's an awful lot of at this. there's an awful lot of barbers on my high street places
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my coffee pawn shops, vape shops and barbers now i was wondering why there are so many barbers compared to hairdressers. we don't have many hairdressers in my town. awful lot of barbers . my town. awful lot of barbers. so my sons, who, of so i asked my sons, who, of course frequented barbers and they said they're friends . yeah, they said they're friends. yeah, for money laundering and drugs. tony this great secret, tony this is no great secret, but i also get that this is partly do with illegal immigration and setting up drugs and crime behind shop fronts . so and crime behind shop fronts. so that's what our high streets are into. this is so bleak. that's what our high streets are into. this is so bleak . and into. this is so bleak. and also, jonathan, i don't know whether you have a tattoo but apparently our budget being closed. i'm being replaced by tattoo's vape barbers . i tattoo's vape barbers. i despair. so you're not going to any of those shops. no well, i don't mind going there a lot and there are lots of other things and of course the high street does have a dynamic, but i blame the councils. i mean, it's the local councils. i mean, it's absolute. you can go and shop at
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tesco's or some big probably say a brand but one of the big supermarket. yeah. and all the shops first round you shops the first right round you can can get in for can park for you can get in for free. it's very acceptable free. it's a very acceptable experience. can try to experience. you can try to go to that in the middle of a town you have to find somewhere to park. they will reduce parking because it's friendly no one it's got to be friendly no one can park. so you're forced a park and ride much and coming home christmas home with the christmas shopping, waiting for park and ride, carrying on and off. i mean, the thing is nonsense, but just absolute nonsense and i blame entirely the local councils for not having free parking in the central towns , parking in the central towns, for not supporting the shops . for not supporting the shops. clearly the high streets are going to reduce , as laura says, going to reduce, as laura says, you online, you're doing much more online. and so the shops have got become much more destination and therefore there will be a reduction of the high street. oxford street will reduce in but they've got to provide a destination. they've to provide a neat ,
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provide a destination. they've to provide a neat, you provide a destination. they've to provide a neat , you know, to provide a neat, you know, something for you to go and shop at, but an experience you to have. but they've also it's also got to easy to do and that's why free parking is so great. and you know what else brings us around to thing before about around to the thing before about it's elton he laura that it's the elton he laura that suffer. don't know too many suffer. i don't know too many octogenarians a tattoo when octogenarians who a tattoo when they wake up the morning. they wake up in the morning. yeah definitely it does take away community and the things that people used go to high that people used to go to high street it should street for of course it should be destination like jonathan be a destination like jonathan saying in fact they're going, you even worse you know, in an even worse direction. not just direction. it's not just question that hard question of fact that it's hard to which not just to park, which affects not just the elderly, but the disabled people, children, people shopping bikes. but in fact, some streets are putting some high streets are putting these planters each these weird planters at each end. if you've seen end. i don't if you've seen famously oxford city of famously in oxford city of oxford, they have put planters on high streets to make the areas simply pedestrian nice. they there's a demand for they think there's a demand for this. it's going to this. i think what it's going to do ghettos with do is create empty ghettos with some sad, pitiful plants some rather sad, pitiful plants at end and that can't at each end and shops that can't do in the middle. at each end and shops that can't do in the middle . so do business in the middle. so i think people have forgotten the high street is about it's about
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getting it's about going getting there. it's about going into community, into shops. it's community, and it's everything it's about having everything need place. i mean, need in one place. i mean, great. you want to get a tattoo, your nails done and a coffee on a van . if you your nails done and a coffee on a van. if you if your nails done and a coffee on a van . if you if you want to buy a van. if you if you want to buy some shoes, go to a butchers and pick up a school uniform. it's oven pick up a school uniform. it's over. and so is the show, over. well and so is the show, though . oh, that was brilliant . though. oh, that was brilliant. thank you. we didn't set up a pharmacy , lord jonathan. and pharmacy, lord jonathan. and thank you so much lord dealt with. thank you very much. it has flown by again. i will be back tomorrow morning ten. back tomorrow morning at ten. but up next with gb news but coming up next with gb news day is mark longhurst have a great destiny to mark. hello i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office it has turned colder and this cold spell is going last many places sunny last a while. many places sunny spells today but there are some wintry showers around as well . wintry showers around as well. why the cold failed? follow the ice was pointing all the way up to arctic. that is where our air coming from. cold air in and of course, northern scotland beanng course, northern scotland bearing the brunt of those northerly winds. that's what we're seeing most of the snow
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showers through today could see more than ten centimetres over hills and a few centimetres down lower levels elsewhere. a few showers, but many places simply having a bright day with sunny spells a bit cloud. of course, east anglia in the everywhere it is cold temperatures below average , two or three degrees in average, two or three degrees in some spots , five or six further some spots, five or six further south. but add on wind further north and it really will feel quite bitter now through this evening. a few more of these showers drifting in initially the then further west, the east, but then further west, of northern ireland, of course, northern ireland, wales, south—west, england may they turn have they allow things to turn have met ice warnings in place met office ice warnings in place slippery conditions of those showers come in temperatures again below freezing widely well below in towns and cities we could be down to minus eight or minus nine in some rural spots , minus nine in some rural spots, potentially icy starts to thursday. still some snow showers . northern scotland, the showers. northern scotland, the showers. northern scotland, the showers because the east will be a mixture of rain, sleet and some snow. snow coming into parts of north—east england, south scotland, perhaps later in the day, showers west. again,
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that wintry mix , sleet and rain that wintry mix, sleet and rain mostly at low levels, but some snow in the hills for many a sunny day. but if anything, colder still on thursday afternoon with temperatures struggling one or two degrees for quite a now. this little weather feature bringing more wet weather into north eastern parts may well have a bit more about it in terms of snowfall as we through thursday evening. we go through thursday evening. so to watch bit more so that's to watch a bit more snow possible , plenty more snow possible, plenty more sunshine the forecast, but sunshine in the forecast, but stays may turn foggy stays cold. it may turn foggy through the weekend. check out the met website the warnings .
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