busy show tonight . it's marked busy show tonight. it's marked down an end for mark steyn in my big opinion monologue whilst those going on strike may have a claim for a pay rise by denying brits access to rail services over christmas. their methods are downright cruel and will backfire badly . reacting to that backfire badly. reacting to that and all the big stories of the

day, the brilliant journalist patrick o'flynn, also is climate change race host. so says hollywood millionaire actress jane fonda . we'll get reaction jane fonda. we'll get reaction from the spectator , says alex from the spectator, says alex marshall . can donald from the spectator, says alex marshall. can donald trump fix america if he wins in 2024.7 i'll put that to you. he's a former right hand man, mick mulvaney, live in the studio . oh, high live in the studio. oh, high energy bills here to stay. we'll speak to statistics guru jamie jenkins , who has crunched the jenkins, who has crunched the numbers so you don't have to. plus a worrying new paper published in the bmj suggesting boosters are likely to cause a net clinical harm to young adults. we'll speak to one of the authors of that paper. do drop me a line throughout the show. gb views and gb news dot uk lots to get through include that big opinion monologue. i'm not pulling my punches. but first the headlines which to be honest, nhs . thank you very

honest, nhs. thank you very much mark. this is the latest from the gb newsroom levelling up. secretary michael gove has agreed planning permission for a new coal mine in the uk in cumbria. new coal mine in the uk in cumbria . the plan was cumbria. the plan was recommended by the independent planning inspector. it's the first coal mine in the country for 30 years. the government's says the coal will be used for the production of steel and not for power generation . but shadow for power generation. but shadow climate secretary ed miliband said this was a terrible decision . owning a new coal mine decision. owning a new coal mine marks the death knell for any claims this government has. the climate leadership and it won't provide the sustainable jobs we need. we should be going full pelt for the clean , green jobs pelt for the clean, green jobs of the future. but rishi sunak is so weak being pushed around by his backbenchers that you just can't deliver. the home office says military personnel

and volunteers are being trained to support services , including to support services, including border force at airports and ports. as further strikes are announced, the public and commercial services union says around 2000 border force workers will walk out over the festive penod. will walk out over the festive period . members working at period. members working at gatwick , heathrow, manchester, gatwick, heathrow, manchester, birmingham and cardiff airports all strike for eight days from december the 23rd until new year's eve in a row. overpaid jobs and conditions. minister for immigration robert jenrick says the decisions unjustifiable and will ruin the plans of thousands of families and businesses across the country . businesses across the country. the rmt union says a resolution to the ongoing strike so further away due to what it calls a late intervention by the government. the comments come amid a wave of strikes across a number of pubuc strikes across a number of public sectors. ambulance staff will strike in a dispute over pay will strike in a dispute over pay and conditions. nurses teachers and rail workers are due to take action in the coming weeks as well . labour leader sir

weeks as well. labour leader sir keir starmer has accused mr. sunak of not doing enough to resolve the industrial action this morning. his transport secretary said that his flagship legislation on strikes , this is legislation on strikes, this is what he said this morning his transport secretary might want to listen to this is clearly is clearly not going to help with the industrial action we're faced . he should stop faced. he should stop grandstanding or stop sitting on his hands, get round the table and resolve these issues. the government has been reasonable . government has been reasonable. it's accepted the recommendations of an independent paper body giving pay independent paper body giving pay rises in many cases higher than the private sector . pay rises in many cases higher than the private sector. but pay rises in many cases higher than the private sector . but if than the private sector. but if the union leaders to continue to be unreasonable , then it is my be unreasonable, then it is my duty to take action to protect the lives and livelihood of the british public . and that's why, british public. and that's why, mr. speaker, since i became prime minister, i have been working for new, tough laws to protect people from this disruption . former health disruption. former health secretary matt hancock has announced he will not stand

again at the next general election. in a letter to the prime minister, he said he was proud of his nine years in government . making reference to government. making reference to the uk having the first covid vaccine in the world, tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. now it's back to mark steyn with mark dolan . mark dolan. good evening. the problem with this whole woke thing is that these illiberal, hard left bullies who are seeking to destroy free speech and peddling toxic ideas like critical race theory and gender ideology, claim to wear the cloak of kindness , the fig leaf behind kindness, the fig leaf behind which they hide . is being nice . which they hide. is being nice. amazingly, these vicious thugs have managed to monopolise the moral high ground. but be clear

that the bekind crowd are anything but. i that the bekind crowd are anything but . i tweeted this out anything but. i tweeted this out on monday and it went viral. i think it touched a nerve . i think it touched a nerve. i tweeted the following woke people on very nice . are they people on very nice. are they now.7 i people on very nice. are they now? i loved putting this tweet out because it brought the most delicious , ironic responses . in delicious, ironic responses. in other words, a stream of shocking personal and threatening abuse from the aforementioned bekind community. it's started gently with this beauty . do you really enjoy beauty. do you really enjoy being a total jerk? or is it just for the money? this wag came back with weird, lovely mark. just not towards. and then a horrific swear word . but a horrific swear word. but another tweeter drily points out the irony of this attack by saying point proven right there. i love the internet . i guess i love the internet. i guess it's pretty woke to support the rmt and the nurses as they go on

strike . it makes you a nice strike. it makes you a nice person, even though the economy is shot to pieces after the bonkers experiments of lockdowns which cost us north of half a trillion quid. i don't recall any of those backing public sector pay rises , criticising sector pay rises, criticising lockdowns at the time. now, i'm sure the rail workers deserve some thing the government have offered 8, which sounds generous , but it's been rejected. how quickly they forget that they were bankrolled during the pandemic when trains didn't run at a cost to every household of £600. and the nurses deserve something too. but 19% is having a laugh . so in both cases, the a laugh. so in both cases, the cause may be worthy , but the cause may be worthy, but the actions far from it. there's nothing vocal kind about the rmt deliberately striking over christmas . don't forget the last christmas. don't forget the last two christmases people haven't been able to properly meet up with their families because of

those wretched covid measures. this is the first chance for people to travel the country, hug granny, and indulge in some much needed seasonal cheer . much needed seasonal cheer. surprising, therefore , that the surprising, therefore, that the bekind woke crowd aren't condemning the cruel timing of these strikes , which is these strikes, which is devastating for families and hard working brits. desperate it for christmas break. not to mention the impact on our already punch drunk economy. it's the same with the. i admire what they do day in day out. who doesn't? and they've been through hell during the pandemic . but to down tools for the first time in 106 years, adding to the nhs is traditional winter crisis made worse of course, by a self—inflicted waiting list of 7 million is pretty unkind too. we're told nurses will not man a&e departments , intensive care a&e departments, intensive care units and other so—called non—urgent departments on the

10th and 15th of december. i believe that this tone deaf strike the worst possible time of the year will be very damaging to the reputation of our nurses, especially if patients suffer , which they patients suffer, which they will. and if patients die, which tragically they will not. very nice. that is it. not very woke. hashtag bekind . any fiscal hashtag bekind. any fiscal concessions squeezed out of the government by nurses or train drivers after what amounts to blackmail won't be forgotten quickly , especially by brits who quickly, especially by brits who have the temerity to get ill or have the temerity to get ill or have an accident on the 10th or 15th of december, when hospitals are running a skeleton service . are running a skeleton service. no pun intended , these strikes no pun intended, these strikes will stick in the craw of those on low pay in the private sector too, who, unlike those striking, didn't have a secure job, sick pay didn't have a secure job, sick pay or a go plated pension in

the first place. the strikes will hurt ordinary people . they will hurt ordinary people. they will hurt ordinary people. they will hurt ordinary people. they will hurt families. they will hurt the economy , and they will hurt the economy, and they will cost lives . no one hurt the economy, and they will cost lives. no one denies hurt the economy, and they will cost lives . no one denies the cost lives. no one denies the nurses or the train drivers a fair deal , nurses or the train drivers a fair deal, but what they eventually gain in their pay packets, they risk losing in pubuc packets, they risk losing in public support. packets, they risk losing in public support . and that's not public support. and that's not very nice either, isn't . very nice either, isn't. reacting to that is the prolific journalist and former mep patrick o'flynn. hi patrick. welcome to the show . good welcome to the show. good evening, mark. have i been too hard on these nurses? well, far be it from me to sound like the house leftist. but on this occasion i think there are some other points to bear in mind. first of all, it's not the trade unions or the public sector workers who've produced inflation of 10. when i say that they were cheerleaders for lockdowns and it was really

furlough and other such schemes that have stoked inflation, isn't it? well i seem to remember the man who is currently prime minister was the main driving force behind those schemes. now, if you are a working person, you see people who don't work for a living having 10% increase is the benefits . most benefits are benefits. most benefits are going up 10. the state pensioners are having 10. why wouldn't she want 10? you've already going to have big tax rises because rishi sunak and jeremy hunt have frozen tax thresholds for the foreseeable future . if your in a trade union future. if your in a trade union and you think you're in a strong position, then you are going to be tempted to cause inconvenience in order to get more money. and, you know, no one should pretend strikes are a nice thing . it's not nice thing. it's not a coincidence that the rmt in particular is going on strike at the most inconvenient time for people . that's the whole point people. that's the whole point of those horrible things called strikes. there's no point in

going on strike if you're on the workers side of things . when the workers side of things. when the service you provide isn't in high demand right. so whenever you have a strike , it's going to you have a strike, it's going to be at the worst possible time for people. and again, if you're these workers , you know, in this these workers, you know, in this inflationary environment , seeing inflationary environment, seeing your living standards eroded , your living standards eroded, your living standards eroded, you might look and say, well, hang on, boris johnson, he's living standards haven't been eroded. he went to fill his loft with, hey on the us speaking circuit . you look at matt circuit. you look at matt hancock money teasing the brand of his own. no to rioting and yeah you're going to have a go . yeah you're going to have a go. i think. and when you get high inflation, you do tend to get waves of strikes in the final point in condemnation of the clown show tory government we found out in the last couple of days that there were proposals to bring in new laws, to make it harder to shut down public services. but david cameron showed them in return for the trade unions supporting his. he's remained campaign and that

didn't work out very well ehhen didn't work out very well either. so i don't think rishi sunak and the rest of the government ministers are going to succeed. pinning everything on villainous trade unions. still less a labour party that hasn't been in power for 12 years. however the rmt are deliberately destroying christmas for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of brits who are desperate for a break and the nurses are downing tools when the nhs is already in trouble. if a crisis emerges from that which is likely the pubuc from that which is likely the public won't forget . i from that which is likely the public won't forget. i think , of public won't forget. i think, of course they won't forget. but but let's face it, the nhs is in a state of pretty close to collapse as it is , you know, collapse as it is, you know, accident, emergency waiting times. you know, the government's announced a target that people should be able to see a gp within two weeks. that's target, you will, that's the target, if you will, for anyone's dad or for raising anyone's dad or sister or brother in law. has you know, a coronary thrombosis on the 10th of december or the 15th and doesn't get seen

attending quickly enough. hmm you won't you know, you won't take kindly to the fact that staff are on strike, which is bound put pressure on the bound to put pressure on the service. indeed. you will service. no, indeed. you will want blame just as want to blame somebody just as much as love nurses is much as we love the nurses is not really not, you know, digging them out. but i just i blame the unions who have walked the nurses into and the nurses into this and replaced nurses who don't want to strike. and that to go on strike. yes. and that sort hippocratic oath first, sort of hippocratic oath first, do . i just wonder do no harm. i just wonder whether looking at a quite whether we're looking at a quite a precedent for nurses a damaging precedent for nurses to on strike at this time . to go on strike at this time. well, i think it is well, you know, i think it is damaging and tends to damaging. and what tends to happenin damaging. and what tends to happen in these disputes is there's a wave of public sympathising at the very start. and then the second time you look at the polling and it's falling away. and the third time it's rock bottom . and you can it's rock bottom. and you can see that in the polling about the with, you know, mick the rmt with, you know, mick lynch or two others lynch and one or two others reviving the i'm all right, jack eaung reviving the i'm all right, jack ealing comedy smart, wise cracking working class trade unionists that was quite charming to some people for a few weeks. it's not so funny

anymore . so but but they can anymore. so but but they can look at the basic facts. the rmt is much more militant than the nursing union or the ambulance drivers. train drivers roughly twice as well—paid . but, you twice as well—paid. but, you know, they certainly don't have to be, as it were, twice well qualified. so we're presiding over a system that seems to incentive militancy. yeah, over a system that seems to in seems militancy. yeah, over a system that seems to in seems so. militancy. yeah, over a system that seems to in seems so. youilitancy. yeah, over a system that seems to in seems so. you mentionedah, over a system that seems to in seems so. you mentioned the it seems so. you mentioned the ambulance drivers . they're ambulance drivers. they're threatening to go on strike as well you're well. you'd better hope you're uber drivers. got a medical degree. yes. or share a house with someone with. you know that driving licence and a car. i mean , again, if you look at mean, again, if you look at ambulance response times that they're frankly terrifying . they're frankly terrifying. anyway, do the unions risk overplaying their hands? because at the moment, i think it's clear that this this industrial action is damaging to the government threatened sequel to the winter of discontent, which of course, is very much the intellectual property of a labour government in the seventies the tories now seventies and the tories now going to have their dna all over the incarnate version of the second incarnate version of the second incarnate version of the of discontent. labour the winter of discontent. labour will remind them of that. but do the unions risk overplaying

their hands and delivering perhaps early next year? rishi sunak with an opportunity to have his thatcher moment and basically take them on only if he has it in him to be that determined to face them down, to go through, you know, a short term, unpopular guarantee and tough it out. would it be his falklands moment? no i personally don't see in him and i would take you back to an even earlier precedent than the winter of discontent. five years before that, edward heath was prime minister and trying to grapple with the national union of mineworkers . he couldn't beat of mineworkers. he couldn't beat them. he called a general election on who governs britain . the electorate looked at him and well, if you and thought, well, if you need to it's obviously not you. to ask, it's obviously not you. and i think i see rishi sunak more going down path than more going down that path than the thatcher one. patrick great to see you in the flesh. always enjoy your brilliant journalism. patrick . coming your patrick o'flynn. coming up, your thoughts next. also is climate change caused by racism or even misogyny? i hadn't thought so, but that's what hollywood legend

jane fonda seems to think. we'll get into all of that and more with our down under correspond alex marshall. don't touch that doll .

yes welcome back to the show. it's marked down an end for mark steyn tonight and tomorrow night, all high energy prices here to stay and is that the plan by those who lead us? donald trump's right hand man live in the studio tonight . can live in the studio tonight. can donald save america and help britain if he get back, gets back into the into the white house and a worrying new paper published in the bmj about vaccine safety for young people. we speak to the author. lots to get through. but first, your feedback. gbviews@gbnews.uk and my big opening monologue was all about the strikes which i consider profoundly immoral,

particularly in relation to that timing. both the nurses and the rmt . this from moon head who rmt. this from moon head who says mainly i support aspects from unions as they played a major role in workers rights in the past. but i'm afraid that this guy , i think he means mick this guy, i think he means mick lynch is becoming another arthur scargill, stopping his own members earning whilst he sits back on his 150 k salary . back on his 150 k salary. another poor socialist , another another poor socialist, another person messages the programme. i used to trust the unions, but now i realise that they are as corrupt as everything else. union leaders talk the talk but are generally in it for the money . my views are based are generally in it for the money. my views are based on my own experiences , and last but own experiences, and last but not least at this stage, let's get our last tweet up if we can, andifs get our last tweet up if we can, and it's this fully back. the strikes . the government has strikes. the government has failed everyone . okay, i'll get failed everyone. okay, i'll get to more of your thoughts. shortly. layla, can you jump ahead, please ? because it's time ahead, please? because it's time for our next disco session. yes,

folks . let's take a look at this folks. let's take a look at this amazing news from hollywood. jay funder thinks that climate change is racist. take a look . change is racist. take a look. yes indeed, folks. a little technical issue there, but we know this woman, famous for wearing a leotard. jane fonda. well, look , she's jumped the well, look, she's jumped the shark on this one. here it is. we got it. if there were no races, there'd be no climate crisis. so if there was no misogyny , there would be no misogyny, there would be no climate crisis . it's part of climate crisis. it's part of a mindset . climate crisis. it's part of a mindset. it's the mindset that looks at a woman and says, nice , 0h, looks at a woman and says, nice , oh, dear , they're in la la , oh, dear, they're in la la land. you couldn't be surprised. let's head to australia and the spectators . brilliant columnist spectators. brilliant columnist alex marshall. hi, alex. good morning. i could have acted to that boy if you needed me to.

please i don't want to see it again. this is typical, though, of woke hollywood, isn't it ? of woke hollywood, isn't it? i'll look. when i was researching this, i couldn't believe what i was watching. but i figured that she's an actress right? so she probably didn't call up this whole climate change is caused by racism and misogyny on her own. so this is actually coming out of the united nations . and a lot of united nations. and a lot of so—called theory reports on the issue . you yes, indeed. i mean, issue. you yes, indeed. i mean, the bottom line is that it's an ideology . it's a the bottom line is that it's an ideology. it's a religion the bottom line is that it's an ideology . it's a religion now, ideology. it's a religion now, isn't it? climate change ? of isn't it? climate change? of course it's but it's actually become more than a religion. so the plebs, the peasants, mark, they think it's a religion. they're buying into this idea that if they just be nicer, the climate will fix itself. but all of the bureaucrats and all the activists have worked out that they a lot of money out they can make a lot of money out of this. so by pretending that this whole climate change is about and past about racism and past oppression, they can oppression, well, then they can basically blackmail the west to pay basically blackmail the west to pay them a fortune . reparations.

pay them a fortune. reparations. now, when you read through all these not about these reports, it's not about saving climate. it's about saving the climate. it's about how of dollars how many billions of dollars every they can cite that of every year they can cite that of western nations and poor into these desperate regimes . yes. these desperate regimes. yes. how persuaded, though, the pubuc how persuaded, though, the public , like by rich celebrities public, like by rich celebrities wagging their fingers about climate change, because i think it's counterproductive . oh look, it's counterproductive. oh look, iused it's counterproductive. oh look, i used the photograph for my article with her lounging back amongst all of her supporters, getting instagram photos. i mean, she look like some kind of white saviour complex, but there was nobody there to say but i reckon people would be less convinced if they could actually read what the un reports say. and just want to quote this and i just want to quote this new that got going around. new idea that got going around. they global sacrifice they call it global sacrifice zones. also known as racial and ethnic sacrifice zones. that's the new ideology . that's a new the new ideology. that's a new way of saying, well, the climate's killing people because you're white. therefore, these celebrities are saying, we have to stop oil . and as i point, to stop oil. and as i point, i mean, it never does make sense.

don't try and understand it. so as i say with jane fonda's saying, if she stopped oil, which is her main goal, medicine is 95% dependent oil. so is 95% dependent on oil. so she'll basically end modern medicine gets her wish. medicine if she gets her wish. yes. and what about all the oil in that makeup of hers that makes her look so perennially young ? i love that her outfit young? i love that her outfit she's talking about poor women in the third world or her outfits probably worth more than one of those women will make in their life. but instead their entire life. but instead of that to the third of donating that to the third world, she's they're getting selfies for facebook and selfies for her facebook and twitter accounts. i also wonder, alex, where whether whether or not chucking the word racist around in relation to everything , including climate change, diminishes the power of the word and therefore is quite racist in itself . i'm actually a little itself. i'm actually a little bit worried that australia is going to be declared a racial sacrifice zone because we've got a new reference to coming up where racism has been monetised and weaponise in australia for the purpose of creating a new

layer of bureaucracy and enshrining quite literally racial supremacy into our constitution . now that kind of constitution. now that kind of thing is playing into this un reparations deal where they want australians , citizens to no australians, citizens to no longer have access to the natural resources. so i don't know if you saw, but a cartoonist was literally warned that he's not allowed to draw is walk or uluru as you may know it. this stuff is getting out of control and that's racist. and to say you're white, you can't draw a geological feature that's famous around the world in every avatar as a campaign is completely mental. and it makes me wonder what version of reality that we're currently living in because australia has lost the plot. you yeah, i'm afraid it's happened to the western world now , alex, i'm western world now, alex, i'm assuming i know it's 20, 22, but i assume you still identify me as a woman. let's call you a woman. that's the latest fashion. do you think jane fonda's got a point that climate change is because of a misogynist mindset? is it all

our fault? us blokes ? i have to our fault? us blokes? i have to say that as a blonde. and don't forget, technically, blondes get a lot more help than most other women. i have not met nicer people than normal, straight, white men. they are by far the nicest people in this industry. the really nasty ones, they're the woke ones, especially woke women. they are the they are horrifically sexist . i get told horrifically sexist. i get told you go back in the kitchen and make dinner for a farmer husband that i don't have . this is a that i don't have. this is a sort of rhetoric that they go on with and of. jane fonda wants to fix problem, misogyny. she fix this problem, misogyny. she should her own should really look at her own kind , her followers, the left. kind, her followers, the left. they are the ones that are horrific women . yes. you horrific to women. yes. you mention woke women. you're missing an extra w it's woke white women. they're the worst . white women. they're the worst. and it's actually essentially politically correct. white people are behind so much of this race baiting . oh, look, we this race baiting. oh, look, we call them the tales because in australia we have a new

political movement funded by renewables billionaires made up of predominantly white, extremely wealthy women from the nonh extremely wealthy women from the north shore suburbs of sydney. and these are the ones who are leaning really heavily into race politics. they think it's somehow virtuous to divide little kids at school and tell the one to you know, that they're guilty of past historical racism because of the colour of their skin. this is truly sinister stuff. and i mean, we can laugh about it because we escaped this education system that's now gone off a cliff into nowhere. but the kids that are growing up these days growing up with these days are growing up with a warped of their identity warped sense of their identity and they're becoming hyper racist because they're told to focus their race. so we've focus on their race. so we've got bureaucrat bureaucracies internationally making money off it, and then we've got another generation up who are generation coming up who are going to be able to behave normally in society . check out normally in society. check out alex marshall's brilliant article in the spectator. alex, we'll see you in a week's time. coming up, all high energy pnces coming up, all high energy prices here to stay. and why are

so many people dying at the moment ? they shouldn't be. and moment? they shouldn't be. and why don't the media care more vaccine concerns? plus, can donald trump save america if he wins in 2024? and would it mean good news for britain ? we'll be good news for britain? we'll be joined in the studio by his former right hand man, mick mulvaney . lots to get through. mulvaney. lots to get through. see you shortly .

another quick bit of feedback. this from anonymous fully back the strikes, the government has failed everyone . well, on that failed everyone. well, on that we can agree . welcome back to we can agree. welcome back to the mark steyn show marked at an end for the boss today and tomorrow before the end of the show, can donald trump save america if he wins in 2024? and would it be good news for britain? we'll be joined live in the studio by his former top adviser. but first, here's a chilling thought . all high

chilling thought. all high energy prices here to stay is the cost of heating our homes, offices and filling our cars pay to part of a wider government plan to change how we live. happy accident, if you like, you might think so given the fact that former top statistician at the owner , jamie jenkins points the owner, jamie jenkins points out in his excellent twitter feed that 75% of the rise is in gas happened before the russian invasion of ukraine. what's going on? well, i'm delighted to say that jamie jenkins joins me now. hi, jamie. say that jamie jenkins joins me now. hi, jamie . marky, good . say that jamie jenkins joins me now. hi, jamie . marky, good. i'm now. hi, jamie. marky, good. i'm really well. great to have you back on the show. so it's an easy narrative to paint that it's vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine which is making heating our homes and offices so expensive . not so say that . say expensive. not so say that. say the statistics . no. and part of the statistics. no. and part of the statistics. no. and part of the narrative obviously is always said , obviously, putin is always said, obviously, putin is to blame for all of this kind of

gas prices going through the roof. but you start breaking it down more. what we've become in the uk is become overreliant now on kind of gas from abroad. if you go back to the 1980s, just nought point 6% of all the electricity in the country came from gas and now it's up to 40% in 2021. now what that means is you've got a double whammy for kind of consumers. you've got to pay kind of consumers. you've got to pay to heat your home, and that's gas. and then the that's using gas. and then the electricity we use that comes from gas and consistently now over ten or 20 years, over the last ten or 20 years, we are importing and more we are importing more and more gas, some north gas, though some of the north sea producers have been incentivised reduce the incentivised to reduce the amount they produce . now, amount of gas they produce. now, today the bite in the today we've seen the bite in the us and sunak and we're doing this to import gas this deal to import more gas from but these are from the us. but these are reliance on foreign gas. is what the problem. so you take 20 now this is a kind of a chilling number. this is mark. you take 2019, the uk as a whole. so that's all the households, all the business, all our public services. we spen d £40 billion services. we spend £40 billion now, big number on our energy now, a big number on our energy . in 2022, it's going to go up

t 0 £190 . in 2022, it's going to go up to £190 billion. . in 2022, it's going to go up t 0 £190 billion. that's . in 2022, it's going to go up to £190 billion. that' s £150 to £190 billion. that's £150 billion. i'm calling it the great energy robbery . this is great energy robbery. this is literally great energy robbery. this is literall y £150 great energy robbery. this is literally £150 billion being taken from household government. basically the taxpayer generally , because the government is supporting a lot of this going to energy companies, mainly abroad. and the chilling thought, mark, if you look at the recent, that will be our data. they look at of the data. they look at kind of the outlook the coming years outlook over the coming years and prices never going and gas prices are never going to what we're paying to fall below what we're paying now. so are baking this now. so we are baking this saying for a long term in saying now for a long term in terms of what we got to pay and does feel like a theme which ties with night's show , ties in with last night's show, which is behavioural change and a nudge. we know, don't we? jamie that the public were persuaded to give up cigarettes by the million when they got so expensive. are they trying to do the same with energy ? well, it the same with energy? well, it looks that way. you had jeremy hunt in parliament recently saying that we need to change our behaviour, we need to cut our behaviour, we need to cut our energy use by 15. now, think

of a world in the future where 100% of electricity is coming from renewables . well, you don't from renewables. well, you don't introduce anything because it's no, it's not any no, it's not causing any problem. why do we need to problem. so why do we need to reduce energy reduce our energy use, especially he saying especially when he was saying this parliament, mark, this sat in parliament, mark, wearing a, you know, a shirt, you must be warm enough for him. do richard? now coach this do i, richard? now i coach this evening absolutely freezing out there. people are going to be cheering the heating up. when i left with zero degrees in the car. and the thing is, it's just going to be causing a lot of anguish. i think i would like to say to people is, especially if, you we people die you know, we that people die tomorrow access deaths. know tomorrow access deaths. we know that excess that people die from excess deaths due to deaths during the winter due to the so if people are cold the cold. so if people are cold now put the heating on, worry about the money later. you're about the money later. if you're worried do not kind worried about that, do not kind of save and put your at of kind of save and put your at risk. important to keep risk. it's important to keep the help warm this winter. quick word on excess deaths. you've done great public service done a great public service drawing attention to the shocking number of deaths shocking number of excess deaths at moment higher than during at the moment higher than during the pandemic. but if it's not covid, the pandemic. but if it's not covm, they the pandemic. but if it's not covid, they don't care , do they?

covid, they don't care, do they? how are things ? yeah, well, how bad are things? yeah, well, it is being considered that we've had 29 weeks of higher than expected deaths and a lot of our time to talk about it tonight. but a factor in tonight. but a main factor in all this is the performance all of this is the performance of the nhs. so these strikes that are forthcoming, you said in and in monologue the in year and in monologue at the start show, is adamant start of the show, is adamant that and that you that i might have and that you will deaths will be caused will see deaths will be caused by ambulance services being kind of by nurses going on of cut back by nurses going on strike. we can put the strike. you know, we can put the right wrongs the strike right to wrongs about the strike to but it will have an to one side, but it will have an impact. sunak what she sunak impact. and sunak what she sunak today he leave no today saying he will leave no stone unturned tackle the nhs stone unturned to tackle the nhs waiting but we're seeing waiting lists, but we're seeing more heart more people dying of heart issues. what kind of issues. mark that's what kind of a factor in of this. and a big factor in all of this. and we've seen a 50% increase in the number of people on waiting lists heart treatment in lists for heart treatment in over country and over a first world country and we seeing people waiting we are seeing people waiting 400,000 over a year 400,000 people over a year waiting on waiting lists and putting targets in their mouth is trying to rid of waiting is trying to get rid of waiting lists over 18 months. in 12 lists for over 18 months. in 12 months, they me using months, they told me of using the sector . the ironic the private sector. the ironic thing of all of this, marcus, it

might better to send some might be better to send some patients abroad to kind of get looked at. and we're a first world country. is great world country. this is not great britain the the current britain the way the current health system is. jamie jenkin is a colossal resource , crunches is a colossal resource, crunches the numbers so you don't have to give him a follow on twitter at jamie stats. jamie, thanks and we'll see in a week's time. jamie stats. jamie, thanks and we'll see in a week's time . a we'll see in a week's time. a worrying new paper published in the british medical journal suggests the covid 19 booster pose is more of a risk to young people than getting the disease itself . if the co—author of the itself. if the co—author of the paper and medical and apologist dr. kevin bada, joins me now . dr. kevin bada, joins me now. hi, doc, how are you doing tonight ? hi, doc, how are you doing tonight? good. nice to be with you, mark. thank you very much for joining us. what are the key forjoining us. what are the key themes of your paper ? because themes of your paper? because they don't make for good reading for young people over the age of 19, do they ? yeah no, they 19, do they? yeah no, they don't. and so the motivation

behind this paper is specific to nonh behind this paper is specific to north american vaccine mandates . right. so this is different then you have across the pond in europe and especially in the uk, you haven't had vaccine mandates for covid in north america. we started rolling out our covid vaccine mandates in september 2021 based on 4040 arguments that were clear from israeli and uk data right. the vaccines don't durably stop transmission , prior infection is transmission, prior infection is equally protective to vaccines . equally protective to vaccines. the age distribution, of course, the idea that the vaccines we're going to end the pandemic, unfortunately, wishful thinking , right? so we've north america has followed this sort of path of exceptionalism where we've kind of blinded ourselves to scientific findings from other countries and indeed our own experts . and this involves the experts. and this involves the cdc fda and also the white house, who have continued to advocate for vaccine mandates or at least make the regulatory environment, you know, and favourable for that. and so what's happened , you have what's happened, you have universities who are mandating

booster shots for 8 to 29 year olds. so if you're 18 to 29 and you've had two doses of covid vaccine and you've had covid once, maybe twice, right. what's the actual added value of a booster shot? right. and yet , if booster shot? right. and yet, if you go ahead and go get you don't go ahead and go get those that booster, you're those at that booster, you're just enrolled . you're just enrolled. you're essentially it out of the essentially cast it out of the of the system of higher education that you depend on for your future earnings. so, i mean, it's just a profound lack of on the one hand proportion reality. so weighing benefits and costs , it's also just and costs, it's also just continuing this very heavy handed emergency exceptionalism where we just essentially a follow like a covid ization of the world. everything is evaluated through covid scientists rather than the larger social and political context. and we've also further just degraded trust in our scientific institutes shines through these policies. so this paper was motivated just to, on the one hand, make an ethical argument. but then when we looked at the actual data that's

publicly available , and that's publicly available, and that's where the risk benefit study from or component of the paper we were also we were quite alarmed . i mean, essentially alarmed. i mean, essentially what we did we took the cdc what we did is we took the cdc number needed vaccine needed number needed to vaccine needed a needed to vaccinate and a number needed to vaccinate and we adjusted it for omicron because the only available data is from pre delta, right . and we is from pre delta, right. and we know we is a lot less virulent and deadly. so we adjusted that number and then we went to the pfizer booster, a randomised controlled trial and we said how many severe adverse events were reported how many were reported and how many were determined by blind investigators to be attribute, attribute to both to the vaccine. and that was three out of 5000 people. right. and so we put those numbers together and we included estimates on we also included estimates on myocarditis . and then said, myocarditis. and then we said, okay, so prevent one covid okay, so to prevent one covid hospitalisation for 18 to 29 year olds, right? for this university population , how many university population, how many people do you need to vaccinate 7 people do you need to vaccinate ? and it turns out about 30 to 40000 people. so to prevent one covid hospitalisation and there's a lot of uncertainty and

limitations to what we're deaung limitations to what we're dealing with. but this is the publicly available right ? publicly available data, right? and then so how many people are going severe adverse going to have a severe adverse event which is defined as needing hospitalised at least right . so you're going to have right. so you're going to have 18.5 people that are going to have that experience. right. and sure, maybe they're there short duration . you go to the hospital duration. you go to the hospital for a day or two days, whatnot, but that doesn't that doesn't still the risks and benefits don't even wait we up proportionally if you're taking a more like favourable view of what those severe adverse events are right and there's a lot of complexity there. but then when you look at just myocarditis cases, how does that one covid hospitalisation averted you're going between one point, going to have between one point, i think 6 to 4 cases of myocardial itis for young for young young men. right. 18 to 29 years old. and you know, the narrative that this is mild and it's just self—limiting and it's fine , don't worry about it . fine, don't worry about it. that's wishful thinking, right? like for some people. sure. but we don't know. and it's better

to be to use the precautionary principle which you over in the uk have done with your vaccine policies. the nordic countries have followed that route have also followed that route and unfortunate we and america has unfortunate we lost its way where we continue this sort of very excessive policy response to covid in some areas which are predominantly blue and blue universities versus republican states and republican universities. so there's a cultural element to this, too . well, that's right this, too. well, that's right bizarrely, it seems to become political , doesn't it, kevin? political, doesn't it, kevin? the clock's against us. but but you mentioned the nordic countries . i think it's denmark countries. i think it's denmark and norway who aren't even offering boosterjabs and norway who aren't even offering booster jabs to. and norway who aren't even offering boosterjabs to. young offering booster jabs to. young people briefly , if you can, in people briefly, if you can, in the uk don't have mandates, but we still have pressure on young people to get when will this tyranny end, do you think ? well, tyranny end, do you think? well, you know, in the us 50% of people get an influenza vaccine every year . so people get an influenza vaccine every year. so i would imagine that people are going to

normalise covid vaccination in the same way in terms of tyranny, like mandate pressure and corporate coercion . i think and corporate coercion. i think it's stopped for most part. you know , already. i think that know, already. i think that there is a worrying trend that dunng there is a worrying trend that during a future health emergency, this machine array of vaccine, passports and mandates and lockdowns will come back . and lockdowns will come back. i'm very sceptical of the effect of this of these strategies. i follow a much more, you know , follow a much more, you know, what i would call traditional pubuc what i would call traditional public health ethics of voluntary behaviour , change and voluntary behaviour, change and guidance, rather than using sticks and carrots to manipulate people. but that's because i think that the public is fundamental, intelligent and people are able to make wise life choices . and of course they life choices. and of course they need to have some guidance. and, you know , from from others that you know, from from others that they trust. but yeah, i think we need to return to that now . need to return to that now. kevin that's almost word for word. what i said last night in my big opinion monologue, a privilege to have the privilege to have you on the show congratulations on the show and congratulations on the publication of paper. it publication of that paper. it makes for fascinating and

important reading coming up can donald trump save america ? would donald trump save america? would a victory for the orange one be good for britain ? his right hand good for britain? his right hand man , mick mulvaney, who's been man, mick mulvaney, who's been at the heart of power with donald trump in the oval office, joins next in the studio .

welcome back to the show. it's mark dolan in for mark steyn tonight and tomorrow as well, i should say as well. but look, it's official, donald trump has confirmed he will run for the republican nomination to contest the presidential election in just two years time, running on a promise to save america . a promise to save america. having previously made it great again, can he win the nomination 7 again, can he win the nomination ? and if so, can he get back into the white house in 2024? and if so , what would a trump

and if so, what would a trump victory mean for britain? i'm delighted to welcome a man that knows better than most. knows him better than most. a former chief staff to donald former chief of staff to donald trump , mick mulvaney. trump himself, mick mulvaney. hi. good to see mark. it's good to see you again. listen you've been the heart of in been at the heart of power in washington in the trump administration . you work administration. you work and you're in uk with the you're here in the uk with the acton global consultancy, you know, uranium's , what's your know, uranium's, what's your verdict as to trump's decision to join the race? not surprising . i think he was looking for a way to sort of get back in the middle of things and he is the prohibitive favourite. i in the republican primary as we learned last night in georgia, there was a huge defeat for the republicans last night in the state georgia special state of georgia in a special election the senate, trump election for the senate, trump has way go to sort of has a long way to go to sort of regain the magic nationwide. he can primary, can win a republican primary, which republican voters, which is just republican voters, but going to have prove but he's going to have to prove he can independent voters in he can win independent voters in general again, because general elections again, because he's very well, he's not doing very well. well, that's party faithful that's right. the party faithful may the guy, but it's may love the guy, but it's a question of can they choose the candidate? can they find a

candidate? can they find a candidate that the people will get behind? and that's a dilemma for tories when they were for the tories when they were choosing you know, replacement choosing, you know, replacement to boris and in the to boris johnson and back in the day labour replaced jeremy day when labour replaced jeremy corbyn, just wonder whether corbyn, i just wonder whether donald trump's past his sell by date, what's your view is getting there? it's starting to wear people. really is. he wear on people. it really is. he had dinner with a white nationalist week mar a. nationalist last week in mar a. this a type of thing that this is a type of thing that people of explaining people get tired of explaining to friends . they used to to their friends. they used to be saying, well, like donald be saying, well, i like donald trump. don't like his style, trump. i don't like his style, but his policies. and but i like his policies. and that them a long in the that got them a long way in the conversation. now it's like, conversation. but now it's like, why explain? he's why do i have to explain? he's having with a white having dinner with a white nationalist. why do i have to explain why taking all these documents? i have documents? why do i have to explain why? business jones explain why? his business jones was convicted crimes was convicted of crimes yesterday court. yesterday in your court. so people are getting tired having to why they're to explain why they're supporting donald and supporting donald trump and they're look they're starting to look for someone that someone else and might that someone else and might that someone else. desantis, the someone else. ron desantis, the governor could be. governor of florida could be. and that and ron has earned that discussion. ron been a good discussion. ron has been a good governor a big state. he's governor in a big state. he's state of florida. he's a very talented man. he's an ivy league

former lawyer, a military man. he's he's an all around good candidate. and he seems politically brave, given the fact that he was called ron death sentence for a while for approaching pandemic approaching the pandemic a similar way to sweden. but of course, he's been vindicated. he has been and he has a way to cut through that, to sort of cut through that, to sort of cut through that, to sort of cut through that that chatter, through that that that chatter, to to the issues that to get down to the issues that people so he has people really like. so he has sort drain the swamp sort of that drain the swamp type of attitude the trump type of attitude that the trump has. don't you think that the has. so don't you think that the pandemic was an acid test for people's values, including politicians because, know, politicians? because, you know, bofis politicians? because, you know, boris mentioned on the boris johnson i mentioned on the show last night, he achieved many things. ended the many great things. he ended the brexit kept jeremy brexit deadlock. he kept jeremy corbyn power, out corbyn out of out of power, out of number which would have of number ten, which would have been national security been a national security and economic disaster for the country. equivocated when country. but he equivocated when it to the pandemic , and he it came to the pandemic, and he listened to sage and shut the listened to sage and he shut the country down, which was a very conservative thing to but conservative thing to do. but that's something desantis that's something that desantis did to. no. and he did not yield to. no. and he actually did. he did the right thing he did the math thing is that he did the math and said, we have enough hospital take care of

hospital beds to take care of people. we think that our state will be destroyed if we shut down stay down economically. we can stay open and take care of people. yes, they a very high death yes, they had a very high death rate . but you stop and take a rate. but if you stop and take a look it, reason they had look at it, the reason they had a very high death rate is they have of the oldest popular have one of the oldest popular prisons so they prisons in the country. so they were able to see to their folks and keep the economy open. and that's what's earned. ron desantis, discussion. desantis, this discussion. i doubt that could the doubt that trump could win the next election, but can he be stopped run the for stopped in his run for the for the primary? he can be one on one. to get 35% of one. he's going to get 35% of the republican i run the republican base. if i run against and i get 35, against you and i get 35, i lose. if i run against you and everybody else in this building and i get 35, i win most of our republican primaries are winner take so you could with take all. so you could win with that plurality, though you that plurality, even though you you'd majority. you'd never get a majority. so, yeah, of it depends on the yeah, a lot of it depends on the dynamic. do it will be dynamic. i do think it will be a multi—person race. mike pence is probably run. mike probably going to run. mike pompeo is probably going to run. nikki haley probably to run. nikki haley is probably to run. there's list folks who there's a long list of folks who will donald trump, will run against donald trump, which him which increases chances of him being republican nominee. which increases chances of him beinwhy republican nominee.

which increases chances of him beinwhy will)ublican nominee. which increases chances of him beinwhy will they:an nominee. which increases chances of him beinwhy will they run?ominee. which increases chances of him beinwhy will they run? ininee. which increases chances of him beinwhy will they run? i mean, and why will they run? i mean, what's in it for mike? because they want be president. they want to be president. i mean, if i told you had a chance, would you think would you take i'd have you would you take it? i'd have a exactly so. a guy. that's exactly so. i think they said they this think they said they they this is time. right. and by is their time. right. and by the way, desantis can afford to wait. he's one of the few who can afford to wait. he's still a very young man. he's won very young man. he's just won re—election. he'll be in office in until least in florida until at least 20, 26. he be relevant four 26. so he will be relevant four years from now start years from now when we start talking the 2028 race, talking about the 2028 race, a lot the other people mike lot of the other people mike pence, mike pompeo, nikki haley, be would argue that last be i would argue that the last few democrats administrations have the have been bad news for the special barack special relationship. barack obama if brits voted obama said that if brits voted for they'd the for brexit, they'd be at the back of queue for a trade back of the queue for a trade deal back of the queue for a trade deal, which i think was a very insulting say the insulting thing to say to the british and i can't british people. and i can't imagine any british politician dictating americans dictating to the americans like that policy . that in terms of their policy. so i don't think it's been great. i wonder whether the next president will be republican president will be a republican come. what may. what's your view? so . i think donald view? i think so. i think donald trump republican most trump is the republican most likely to lose because if a

republic is anybody else, other than donald trump, they'll get to that person. let's say it's ron desantis will run against the democrat. could be joe could be at time right . be anybody at that time right. so a binary choice so then it's a binary choice between republican policies and democrat policies . and the democrat policies. and the republicans fairly republicans stand to do fairly well trump is the well if donald trump is the nominee, it'll be a repeat of 2020 where the election was just a referendum on him. yeah. you like him or you don't? nobody voted for biden. you either voted for joe biden. you either voted for joe biden. you either voted donald trump voted for donald trump or against trump. i against donald trump. and i don't changing in 2024. don't see that changing in 2024. he in 2020. i think he he lost in 2020. i think he would likely lose in 2024 for the he does . donald the same reason he does. donald trump really wants another run at white house or is this at the white house or is this just part of the mythmaking, mark? is that is best mark? that is that is the best question. few americans question. and very few americans are asking it. it's a great question. i he announced three weeks ago that he's running for office he hasn't done office again and he hasn't done a single event then. it's a single event then. so it's a wonderful question. i don't have any insight into it as to whether as passionate now whether really as passionate now as 2016. yes. he as he was in 2016. yes. he announced he's going to run. but if you don't sink your teeth

into it, you have to wonder how committed is it's a great committed he is to. it's a great question, i don't think question, and i don't think anybody answer, anybody knows the answer, including best including him. what's your best guess what happens in guess as to what happens in 2024? guess, smart 2024? the best guess, the smart money would be that donald trump runs a republican, wins the runs as a republican, wins the republican nomination, and loses in election . there's in a general election. there's 15 permutations on that, 15 other permutations on that, but poor old but that's smart money. poor old joe biden hasn't got much breath in his body. i mean, can we serious that he would have another run at this? would the democratic let him? yes, democratic party let him? yes, because think he'd be the because they think he'd be the best choice against trump because he's already beaten him one time. even they know one time. but even they know he's starting to slip. i don't know if you've covered him or not, had an episode not, but biden had an episode about and a half ago about a month and a half ago where he started asking for a person at a meeting, whereas jackie right, person at a meeting, whereas jackie is right, person at a meeting, whereas jackie is she? right, person at a meeting, whereas jackie is she? and right, person at a meeting, whereas jackie is she? and ihad , person at a meeting, whereas jackie is she? and ihad she where is she? and she had she died he'd actually spoken died and he'd actually spoken about that previously. so they know problem and it's know he's got a problem and it's really to be president. really hard to be president. it's president and it's even to be president and run president. guess run for president. my guess is they very quietly, very professionally looking for a replacement. yes we have a weekly item my show. mark weekly item on my show. mark dayton is biden's

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