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be on the side of the trying to be on the side of the people. but we know they are still funded by the unions. yes. it's mark dolan in for the big man mark steyn in my big opinion. in just a moment, i'll be dealing with harry and meghan and that documentary . forget and that documentary. forget about stripping harry of his titles . take away his bloody titles. take away his bloody passport as well. as far as i'm concerned, treason doesn't even go there. and how will the press react to this story? and was it wrong for harry to invoke the memory of diana? we'll speak to the man who made diana a star. former national newspaper editor kelvin mackenzie . all day, the kelvin mackenzie. all day, the wokeist couple on earth now is
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their popularity a victory for their popularity a victory for the woke movement? i'll ask the voice of common sense. britain's fiercest journalist, the spectator's toby young. and how is this documentary going to go down in the states? we'll head to hollywood , california. and to hollywood, california. and the queen of us , showbiz, royal the queen of us, showbiz, royal and political reporting , kinsey and political reporting, kinsey schofield . the first lady is my schofield. the first lady is my big opinion. i'm not pulling my punches. and we'll get reaction from top royal historian andrew downie . could harry and meghan downie. could harry and meghan bnng downie. could harry and meghan bring down the british royal family? i'll be asking him that following the headlines with rae addison . thanks, mark. is the addison. thanks, mark. is the latest from the gb news room, the mother of harry dunn says her promise to get justice for her promise to get justice for her son is now well and truly complete. following the sentencing of anne sacoolas for causing his death by careless driving . the wife of a us driving. the wife of a us diplomats received eight months
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in prison, suspended for 12 months . in 2019, she was driving months. in 2019, she was driving on the wrong side of the road when she hit the 19 year old. later pleaded guilty to causing his death. mrs. sacoolas says she's deeply sorry for the pain she's deeply sorry for the pain she caused . speaking outside the she caused. speaking outside the court, harry's mum, charlotte charles, praised the verdict and a warning for those watching on television. this clip contains flashing images you know, and skill sets. a criminal record for the rest of the life. that was something that you know, they never she never thought she'd see the us government never thought that they'd see. and worked tirelessly and and we've worked tirelessly and relentlessly to make sure that she, in the end , still have to she, in the end, still have to do what you and i would have had to have so, yeah , harry, to have done. so, yeah, harry, we that and we get we get 15 we do that and we get we get 15 children under the age of 15 have now died from strep a , the have now died from strep a, the uk health security agency says 13 have died in england since september, whilst northern ireland and wales recorded one death each. health officials say there is currently no evidence
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of the new strain and the rise in cases is due to bacterial transfer during increased social mixing . waiting lists for mixing. waiting lists for routine nhs treatment in england have hit a record high and a&e performances are now at a record low, according to the nhs. 7.2 million people are waiting to start routine treatment at the end of october and . just 67% of end of october and. just 67% of a&e patients were seen within 4 hours of being admitted. ambulance response times have improved, but a still more than 40 minutes behind the 18 minute target the government has defended its decision to open the first uk coal mine for 30 years, saying it will create hundreds of jobs. years, saying it will create hundreds of jobs . the levelling hundreds of jobs. the levelling up secretary has given planning permission for the new mine in cumbria , despite a government cumbria, despite a government commitment to phase out coal . commitment to phase out coal. cop26 president alok sharma called the decision a backward step for uk climate action .
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step for uk climate action. speaking to gb news shadow chancellor rachel reeves refused to say if a future labour government would close the pit. we want to create jobs in the north of england, including in cumbria, but we will be doing that by investing in the jobs and the industries of the future. we've got today a fossil fuel prime minister in the age of renewables, investing in the industries of the past rather than those of the future and senior palace sources are denying claims that the royal family declined to comment on allegations made in the duke and duchess of sussex's netflix series. now it's understood that kensington palace did receive an email from a third party production company , but attempts production company, but attempts to verify it received no response. now that contradicts a statement made at the start of the programme . in the series, the programme. in the series, harry accuses the royal family of a huge level of unconscious bias . on tv , online and on dab+ bias. on tv, online and on dab+ radio . this is gb news the radio. this is gb news the people's channel. back now to .
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mark good evening. well, that's 3 hours of my life. i won't get back. it made the recent root canal surgery that i had pleasant by comparison , i'd be pleasant by comparison, i'd be quite happy if my psychotic dentist to tear out a couple more teeth with no anaesthetic than to have a go through that again. take a look . i than to have a go through that again. take a look. i think it's safe to say that i come from a very different background than my incredible wife. yet our lives were brought together for a reason. we share a commitment to a life of service . yes, to a life of service. yes, indeed. and a life of self service. these two may see themselves as leading lady and leading man. but be clear , this leading man. but be clear, this is no cinema classic. just a third rate horror film meets romance comedy. it was scarier
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than the shining, more vomit inducing than the exorcist and more laughable than the hangover. three. a 120 minute hangover. three. a120 minute car crash in slow motion . this car crash in slow motion. this self—congratulatory , indulgent, self—congratulatory, indulgent, self—pitying ego marathon may fill the coffers of this young couple, but the price they'll pay couple, but the price they'll pay is a huge one. this film is a suicide note in celluloid and marks the end of britain's relationship with harry. once its proudest son, of course. and don't forget , this is a man don't forget, this is a man whose popularity pm pre making was second only to the queen herself. in this film , the herself. in this film, the couple complain about the hierarchy of the royal family. yes, guys , it's a monarchy. they yes, guys, it's a monarchy. they tend to be quite hierarchical things . i'm tend to be quite hierarchical things. i'm so sorry that no one warned you. just be glad they don't behead people any more. never say never. this hierarchy thing is such a novel idea , thing is such a novel idea, isn't it? it must have been a shock to harry when he was in the military and to answer the military and had to answer to sergeant major. did that to a sergeant major. did that impact his mental health as
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well? i wonder when he was flying aeroplanes over afghanistan. when it comes to the alleged poor treatment by the alleged poor treatment by the palace when serving as active royals, harry and meghan have become the boy that cried wolf too many times . we've had wolf too many times. we've had two years now of hearing how tough it's been for a couple. now rattling around a montecito mansion , which we're told boasts mansion, which we're told boasts six toilets. well, this couple are stuffed up to the oesophagus with enough b.s. to fill all of them. and it's all me, me, me. this couple are so narcissistic, they make donald trump look like a shrinking violet. so they're up themselves as this film. devon's traits. but they're stupid to . yes, they're making stupid to. yes, they're making a lot of money , but they haven't lot of money, but they haven't read the room as they rant about how terrible their lives are jetting around the world in private jets being handed, bizarre human rights awards . bizarre human rights awards. brits at home are struggling with the cost of living for some , switching on just one radiator in one room might break the
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bank, whilst harry and meghan laugh all the way to their ears by trashing an institution, the pubuc by trashing an institution, the public paid for handsomely and which made these two famous. meghan was quite happy to dump britain and dump the royal family. she has a long history of ghosting people she did it to. piers morgan , who introduced to. piers morgan, who introduced her to the uk media scene when she met harry. the calls stopped . my good friend, showbiz queen lizzie cundy puts an arm around this mediocre actress when she came to britain and made her welcome. lizzie cundy there added to the list of people who have ceased to be useful to this ambitious young social climber. and she showed the ultimate ruthlessness in dumping her own father, thomas markle , a man father, thomas markle, a man who, it's well reported, supported and loved her as a father and helped facilitate her dream of becoming an actress, even paying for acting lessons . even paying for acting lessons. i've got to say, if i was thomas
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markle, i'd go to the acting teacher and ask for my money back. have you seen suits in this documentary? the race card is played big time with a tedious lecture about british colonial history, forgetting that, unlike us, america imported slaves to their own country and had effective apartheid until the 1960s. it's hinted that the royal family and the british media and maybe even the british media and maybe even the british media and maybe even the british people were so horribly racist . that's why the horribly racist. that's why the couple had to move on. i don't remember any racism. when markle was welcomed into the bosom of the royal family, particularly by the queen herself . markle has by the queen herself. markle has admitted the queen was always a very loving and supportive figure . i don't remember any figure. i don't remember any racism towards the couple when thousands lined the streets for their wedding , and thousands lined the streets for their wedding, and i thousands lined the streets for their wedding , and i don't their wedding, and i don't remember any racism when all of the press put the couple on every front cover for months on end.the every front cover for months on end. the look of love . what end. the look of love. what a great headline . well, how about great headline. well, how about this from the daily mail as
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meghan's beautiful mum , doria meghan's beautiful mum, doria gives her away . they write gives her away. they write a magical , gives her away. they write a magical, modern royal wedding . magical, modern royal wedding. i've got plenty of friends in fleet street . let me tell you, fleet street. let me tell you, when meghan markle came along, the response was overwhelmingly , resoundingly positive . far , resoundingly positive. far from seeking to demonise or castigate this woman, they were celebrating. they thought they'd found the new diana . now, far be found the new diana. now, far be it from me to say definitively whether that has or has not been a racist undertone to the treatment of meghan markle in some quarters, both here and abroad, by a nasty section of the press, potentially the pubuc the press, potentially the public or even the royal family themselves . and if that is the themselves. and if that is the case , then it is truly horrific case, then it is truly horrific . but i do have one question. was sarah ferguson or fergie, as she's known , the victim of she's known, the victim of racism when the press ripped her a second backside every 10 minutes when she was married to prince andrew? she got dogs abuse. what about prince edward,
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who has been merciless , mocked who has been merciless, mocked for his whole adult life? and what about harry? is he the victim? victim of racism, too? can you be racist about harry? a privileged white british man . so privileged white british man. so let's just clarify this. he's getting all of this invective and these attacks, and it's not racism , but meghan markle is and racism, but meghan markle is and it is. perhaps harry is a victim of racism towards red—headed people. yeah, maybe. maybe that's what it is. not for me, of course. some of my favourite people are redheads . what people are redheads. what a dreamboat. don't knock a bit of ginger till you've tried it. ginger is a side i think the pubuc ginger is a side i think the public will see red when they watch this rubbish. this couple have burned their bridges and have burned their bridges and have reached the point of no return. so my review for this film is a simple one. i'm giving it one star. even though meghan should get an oscar for her performance, i almost believed she was real. rest assured , i
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she was real. rest assured, i won't be watching the next instalment . they don't pay me instalment. they don't pay me enough to go through that. and anyway, i've got an appointment with my dentist . drill, baby, with my dentist. drill, baby, drill . now, reacting to that is drill. now, reacting to that is a very, very clever man. it is the author of the best selling book, traitor king the scandalous exile of the duke and duchess of windsor. and he joins me now. andrew downie, welcome to the program. very nice to be on it at the title of your book, a duke and duchess in exile . a duke and duchess in exile. very topical. yes first thing to see the parallels, i mean, this is the charismatic prince who marries an american divorcee , marries an american divorcee, breaks off with his family , breaks off with his family, blames bad parenting for the problems, has blamed them for cutting him off financially , has cutting him off financially, has debates over the security , tries debates over the security, tries to correct the story with team biographies and journalists , biographies and journalists, gives rather embarrassing interviews to the press , interviews to the press, indulges in lawsuits against various people , exploits the various people, exploits the royal brand , promoting
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royal brand, promoting everything from cutlery to furniture . and that was the duke furniture. and that was the duke of windsor. so it's in the playbook. i mean , whether the it playbook. i mean, whether the it is not, it's just history repeating itself. do you think this couple have the potential to bring down the british monarchy because it's quite clear that their campaign against the family won't against the royal family won't end with this documentary series and won't end with the and it won't end with the forthcoming book . no, i think it forthcoming book. no, i think it is a dangerous moment. you know, it's moment . we had it's a vulnerable moment. we had a long standing queen who commanded respect and affection . it's a slightly it's changed now. people are more prepared to criticise the monarchy and, you know, it went well for several weeks, months. but i think they they are very dangerous. she's a very manipulative and ambitious woman who's used harry to leverage her own personal ambitions. but it's vindictive and vicious, and we saw incident in swinson's today with with the programme, you know, comments about , for example, the princess
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about, for example, the princess of wales being married only because she's sort of dutiful, you know, really nasty comments . and this is what they're doing, this drip, drip feed of stuff that they're hinting at. but you're right. stuff that they're hinting at. but you're right . and i mean, but you're right. and i mean, who knows what will be in the book? yes. i mean , you know, is book? yes. i mean, you know, is there i guess , you know, the there i guess, you know, the essence of your book is that there are historic parallels and it has the british monarchy ever faced from one faced such peril from one individual couple? because individual or a couple? because we last time with edward and mrs. it was scandal, mrs. simpson, it was scandal, wasn't went pretty wasn't it? yes. he went pretty quietly . i mean, he was quietly. i mean, he was embarrassing, actually. the worst stories about these associations with, were associations with, which were covered up and only really come out the last few years. so out in the last few years. so that story killed and he was that story was killed and he was sent into exile. but we now have social we less social media. we have a less deferential press. have deferential press. we have people questioning the monarchy. and think is much, much and so i think it is much, much more dangerous. and of course, as andrew in the wings and who who what i mean, who knows what else i mean, prince charles king charles, prince charles of king charles, rather and dumfries and rather and dumfries house and the cash for honours. you know, there are lots and lots of
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things which the press are looking at at the moment. however, i wonder whether global pubuc however, i wonder whether global public opinion is less of an issue for the ongoing existence of monarchy. it's about what of the monarchy. it's about what brits at home feel, and i wonder whether given the fact that meghan markle polls consistently, negatively in this country british country, whether the british pubuc country, whether the british public quite sanguine about public are quite sanguine about the being thrown at us the brickbats being thrown at us from want to see california, when in some ways it is helping the monarchy. i think there's a great deal of sympathy. you know, royal family are know, the royal family are deaung know, the royal family are dealing with dignified dealing with this with dignified silence. know , very, silence. i mean, you know, very, very beautiful and i think, you know, everyone here can see through them. but the problem is, there is a narrative is, is there is a narrative being created elsewhere and that narrative come to this narrative may come to this country. begin believe country. people begin to believe it. had olusoga it. you know, we had olusoga talking about racism here a ridiculous argument that he was making, you know, talking about the commonwealth being being empire to . but these things, you empire to. but these things, you know, do do seep into people's consciousness. and i think there is a real danger that people begin to believe some of this stuff. why was he wrong to
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characterise the commonwealth as empire too? well, because i think many members , the think many members, the commonwealth supportive commonwealth are very supportive , very grateful to in , you know, very grateful to in some ways being part of the empire and the links and the role families work in the commonwealth. i i thought it was a very nasty dig at the queen. you know, they, they made various comments and then cut to pictures of her. you know, they, they just seem to have no sense. she well have been alive she could well have been alive when this programme came out. there seems be sense of there seems to be no sense of any decorum at all about the way they behaved and you were an esteemed historian and royal biographer. just wonder biographer. and i just wonder whether cheap whether this couple in a cheap us documentary are trying to rewrite british history . this rewrite british history. this isn't a very partisan way. we isn't in a very partisan way. we know that there are huge problems and horrors within problems and huge horrors within the empire story, but it feels very slanted how they've characterised yes and characterised it. yes and i mean, trying to equate to mix it with brexit, you know, i think that whole tone is set by that the whole tone is set by the at the front the disclaimer at the front saying we ask for comment from the royal family and they didn't
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declined comment. declined to comment. well, they're saying won't they're now saying they won't even and even approached. and time and time again, this is a very partial, one sided view of what has been happening . and it's has been happening. and it's a shame that that we can't get some sort of balance . the media some sort of balance. the media are doing their best, but to respond deal with some of the respond to deal with some of the allegations that have been thrown about. andrew downie i've already sorted out my christmas reading and it's your book on wallace and simpson. thank you so much. forward to so much. look forward to catching in the near future. catching up in the near future. coming and meghan coming up, are harry and meghan the couple in the the most woke couple in the world? is there massive global media footprint a victory for progressive lefties everywhere? i'll ask the associate editor of the spectator , toby young. how the spectator, toby young. how will the press react to this story in the weeks and months ahead? is it the beginning of the end for harry and meghan as a brand in britain? i'll be asking x sun editor kelvin mackenzie live in the studio. but next, how is this story playing out in america? we'll speak the queen of speak to the queen of us, showbiz, and political showbiz, royal and political reporting see reporting, kinsey schofield. see you in two shakes of a lansdale .
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wanting to protect his family and he did go to his family, he claims, and they didn't help . he claims, and they didn't help. he then begged the british media to back off meghan and they didn't . so then they did away. but what she i just want to come in there was more generally on calm actually and there was more generally on calm fined £820,000 by the atp for its ban on male russian and belarussian players . the lta say belarussian players. the lta say the ban was imposed due to the russian invasion on ukraine. the governing body has also been warned it could lose its atp membership if it makes a similar
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decision next year . okay well, we've been running a text poll based upon a simple question, which is, could harry and meghan bring down the british monarchy ? and i believe british monarchy? and i believe we got the results. so let's take a look. and here we are . take a look. and here we are. well, it's a resounding a landslide victory for no. 87.8% say no. they cannot bring down the royal family and 12.2% say they are a threat . let's get to they are a threat. let's get to your views right now, and we shall start with peter. and i could , harry and meghan bring could, harry and meghan bring down the british royals. peter says the people are fed up with this panel . charles should strip this panel. charles should strip them of their titles and let them of their titles and let them be mr. and mrs. see how
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much money that will generate for them. i hear what you're saying. pizza my concern is that if you strip them of that titles, they're still among two of the most famous people in the world now. peak has tweeted this one, and he says, i think the royal family are quite capable of bringing down the monarchy all by themselves without any help meghan and her help from meghan and her husband. says, could we stop husband. ave says, could we stop caring and figure out what they're meant to be distracting us from? instead and neil says it will be the royal family itself that will bring down the monarchy. charles and wills, especially if they continue to go down the net zero climate change garbage route. the politicians and establishment figures espousing thanks for figures are espousing thanks for those emails. i do appreciate it. now the harry and meghan royal documentary dropped at 8 am. this morning. uk time. let's get some global reaction. how is this bombshell series being received in the united states? let's speak to the queen of us, showbiz, royal and
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political reporting, kinsey schofield . hi, kinsey . mark, i schofield. hi, kinsey. mark, i wish we could have watched this thing together. it was the most bizarre , the roller coaster . i bizarre, the roller coaster. i mean it while being kind of boring. i mean , just a roller boring. i mean, just a roller coaster of contradictions . and coaster of contradictions. and meghan stressing to us that she wasn't the pretty girl. she was the smart girl. she's the smart girl. the smart girl that doesn't know anything about protocol, doesn't know to open a book to know how to curtsy, doesn't know the national anthem. you can't be all of anthem. you can't be lost all of the time and also be the smart girl. meghan it's called google . yeah, it most certainly is . . yeah, it most certainly is. we've got the receipts, haven't we? kinsey first of all, how does this documentary work as a piece of television? is it entertaining ? is it engaging? entertaining? is it engaging? what's your your appraisal of? is it as a tv critic ? yeah. i is it as a tv critic? yeah. i mean , i think that i think that mean, i think that i think that it was less entertaining because it was less entertaining because it felt like we were just exaggerating. the oprah winfrey
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interview. i mean, there was not a lot of new content. i mean, visually , it was stunning. visually, it was stunning. i thought harry came off much more authentic than meghan did. and i don't know. i mean, for the most part, it was just kind of like where when are we going to get to the good stuff? we're in, we're 3 hours in, mark, and they're not married yet . are they're not married yet. are they're not married yet. are they running out of material as a couple? how many more tv series can we have? how many more books ? how many more more books? how many more podcasts ? well, you just made podcasts? well, you just made a really good point when somebody said, let's strip them of their titles right now . if we strip titles right now. if we strip them of their titles right now and of course, i would love, you know, nothing more. but the reality is, if they are stripped of their titles and they're here comes another season of this, it's victimhood. you know, this is they need. this is the is all they need. this is the fuel chris rock is fuel they need. chris rock is going over the country right going all over the country right now meghan as an now, using meghan markle as an example . all of the three ways example. all of the three ways to get famous in this country and becoming a victim is one of
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them and he uses meghan as an example. so if you do strip them of their titles, you hand them a whole new storyline . i do think, whole new storyline. i do think, you know, i've had people message me that said they went ahead and cancelled their pre—order of spare because they're saying what's left for you to say? i'm hearing everything in. i've heard it on oprah. i'm hearing it in this in the docu series. so i do think that they're running out of content and how is this documentary series going down in america? what's the reaction ? i america? what's the reaction? i know it's a big story, but are they being received favourably ? they being received favourably? mark i'm sorry. i hate to tell you this, but i am saying a lot of positive press about this. but but keep in mind, harry and meghan have friends in high places . you turn on cbs and places. you turn on cbs and there's gayle king, oprah winfrey's best friend, forever giving a glowing review about how brave they are and how incredible this documentary is. i think that there are two things happening here. it's that
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they do have very powerful friends, but i also think that they are no longer royalty. they are celebrity . that means are celebrity. that means they're attainable and they're they're attainable and they're the american media is going to cater to them in the hopes that one day they'll sit on their couch or they'll get that exclusive interview with them . exclusive interview with them. you are one of america's most revered royal journalists. you've dedicated most of your life to the royal family, even though you're an american. i think you fell in love with diana when you were a little girl and your wonderful website is called to die for daily , and is called to die for daily, and it's full of royal exclusives , it's full of royal exclusives, but it's dedicated to the memory of william and harry's mother. what are your emotions at this point as you watch this documentary ? to see a family documentary? to see a family that i think you love being attacked so consistently ? well, attacked so consistently? well, i mean, also, it feels like they're high jacking diana's story . they're hijacking that story. they're hijacking that grief . there's story. they're hijacking that grief. there's this story. they're hijacking that grief . there's this video of grief. there's this video of archie and meghan kind of dancing in front of this
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portrait of diana and meghan saying , that's your grandmother. saying, that's your grandmother. that feels intimate. it feels it feels vulgar . it feels feels vulgar. it feels i shouldn't have access to that, especially knowing that harry's family hasn't even been in that room , seeing that portrait room, seeing that portrait barely , barely knows archie . and barely, barely knows archie. and it feels like harry and meghan are trying to take ownership of diana's legacy because she is so loved by the entire world. you know, harry, forcing us to compare meghan and diana. diana was so gracious, kind, fun , was so gracious, kind, fun, flirty, just such a fun character when it came to staff. meghan we're hearing, is a bully verbally abusive, unkind, made people cry. i mean, you know, i think it's i feel like they're trying to hijack the diana brand to elevate themselves and i think that's really unfair to william and his children . now of william and his children. now of course, as you know, they're quite a legit litigious couple, kinsey. and i guess we don't have any clear evidence that meghan is a bully, but it's
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certainly been speculated that staff have been treated badly . staff have been treated badly. what we can say is that they get through more assistance than you and i put together. and that's saying something. ask you saying something. can i ask you finally about william and kate ? finally about william and kate? because harry and meghan are throwing them quite a lot of shade in this documentary, aren't they ? absolutely. yes, aren't they? absolutely. yes, sir. and there's a specific part . i know andrew went into one part where he talked about how catherine was just you know, she played by the rules . and that played by the rules. and that was why she is in the position she's in. but there's another part where harry kind of says that meghan should have special privilege, although despite the fact that catherine was harassed , stalked, you know, spit on kirstie at harry insists that meghan should have special treatment and should be protected even though catherine went through the same thing he's arguing that meghan should have that special treatment. so and then meghan also comments about how she felt like they were too
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formal. she's barefoot and torn jeans and she was angry that nobody wanted to hug and, nobody wanted to hug her. and, you maybe they just didn't you know, maybe they just didn't know you. i mean, i've literally seen william and catherine hug her, hug people hug mike. mike in the on the polo field and katherine's nurse, she stumbled upon the woman that helped her give birth to her baby. she was surprised, threw her arms around her. these are lovable people, huggable people they just didn't know. meghan it's been reported. finally, kinsey , that they've finally, kinsey, that they've been paid in the region of $100 million by netflix for these this episode particular episodic documentary, the six parter. this episode particular episodic documentary, the six parter . 6 documentary, the six parter. 6 hours of material. $100 million. they're already rich beyond their wildest dreams . how much their wildest dreams. how much more more money can they make ? more more money can they make? well, keep in mind, i know that that sounds like a lot of money for a six episodes, but this is supposed to be a production , you supposed to be a production, you know, collaboration . and meghan know, collaboration. and meghan was supposed to create pearl,
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the cartoon. they cancel it. so, you know, they they could create additional content for netflix that's not related . they are that's not related. they are going to continue to make money , marc. they're going to continue to make loads of money. i mean, just look at the amount of people through to sit of money people through to sit in the same room with them. and alec baldwin. mean, i don't alec baldwin. i mean, i don't know these people are. know who these people are. they're not my people. but there are people there that are are people out there that are throwing at the sussexes , throwing money at the sussexes, the brilliant kinsey schofield fantastic coverage. i've got to say on breakfast this morning, kinsey, and you'll be back with me on saturday mark dolan me on saturday night. mark dolan tonight for more reaction to the fallout from harry and meghan's documentary series, do check out kinsey's website to die for daily. coming up, how will the press react to this story in the weeks and months ahead? is it the beginning of the end of harry and meghan as a brand in this country? i'll be asking x sun editor kelvin mackenzie. but next, all harry and meghan, the most woke couple in the world. is there massive global media
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actually and i you might say that. so i actually want to play something to you. so let's have a watch of this because people have said for a long time and people have accused me of caring about meghan and harry than i have prince andrew. it's completely untrue. i've speaking about prince andrew completely untrue. i've speaking decision next year. the atp allows russians and belarusians to compete on tour events, but not under the national flags . tv
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not under the national flags. tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. now it's over to headliners a welcome back. it's mark dolan in for the big man. mark steyn . as for the big man. mark steyn. as the world processes, harry and meghan's bombshell new documentary series is their massive global media footprint . massive global media footprint. a victory for woke culture as high profile members of the global elite, this couple are not afraid to wag their fingers about equality races or even climate change as they dart around the world in a private jet. are they guilty of hypocrisy and just how much of an influence on western culture will this couple potentially have in the years to come to discuss this? i am delighted to
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welcome the brilliant political commentator, founder of the daily sceptic website, which i read every day, and the free speech union well as being associate editor of the spectator, he's got more gigs . i spectator, he's got more gigs. i have. it's toby young. hi toby. hi, mark. is this a victory for woke progressives everywhere? i'm not sure it is , actually. i i'm not sure it is, actually. i mean, we have to see what kind of ratings it gets. some obviously hoping it'll tank , but obviously hoping it'll tank, but in a way, it's almost like a parody of woke race, you know, to present themselves as victims that this is the name of the game. if you're in the woke business, you need to present as a poor, beleaguered , put upon a poor, beleaguered, put upon victim and hear harry and meghan throughout this documentary essentially whingeing about being victimised . you know, being victimised. you know, they're the victims of the royal family, which is institutionally racist, that the victims of the voracious tabloid press, which is constant invading their privacy , though it's a bit odd, privacy, though it's a bit odd, you know, they've basically made their version of keeping up with their version of keeping up with
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the kardashians. complaining the kardashians. so complaining about privacy seems about invasion of privacy seems about invasion of privacy seems a but nonetheless, a little rich, but nonetheless, they maintain a kind of poker face and claim to be victims . face and claim to be victims. they claim in this documentary to be oppressed by the forces of patriarchal, racist , to be oppressed by the forces of patriarchal, racist, colonial, etc. and, you know, here they are. they're net worth is probably approaching $100 million. they're going to get another hundred million for this documentary. they get around the place in private jets, as you said , they have homes all over said, they have homes all over the world. they live in this fabulous spread in california to present themselves as oppressed victims, sort of to claim woke points in the oppression olympics seems almost like a parody of the culture of victimhood . you know, how victimhood. you know, how seriously will take the claims of people to be victims? and meghan, of all people , you know, meghan, of all people, you know, this international glamorous royal couple with titles up the wazoo can claim to be victims then. surely from now on, no one's going to take this kind of whingeing claim to victimhood
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seriously. again, has support for meghan and harry or antipathy towards them become a left versus right issue in the way that lockdowns were ? i'm not way that lockdowns were? i'm not sure it is. i mean, i think they have become a kind of talismanic couple. i mean , the guardian. couple. i mean, the guardian. the guardian, all over meghan markle like a rash, aren't they? and you know, i rather i feel almost a bit sorry for those progressive publications choosing meghan as their champion. i mean , she's going to champion. i mean, she's going to disappoint them , you know, she's disappoint them, you know, she's about the least credit bull champion of kind of woke career that you could find because she's led a life of such extraordinary privilege. i mean , the problem, i think with with taking them seriously, taking them moral seriously and taking them moral seriously and taking the condor emanations of british society in the royal family seriously is that is that, you know, they kind of lack credibility. you know, they sort of complain that they had all these responsibilities that they needed to discharge. they had to
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go on walkabout. she had to learn how to weigh and how to curtsy. she never had a moment to herself. she had to think about she wearing , about what she was wearing, didn't want to clash colours with the was wearing. with what the queen was wearing. it's woe is me. all it's like, oh, woe is me. all the terrible . to paraphrase the terrible. to paraphrase spider—man , with great privilege spider—man, with great privilege comes great responsibility. you know, if you cannot live this extraordinary life, be given hundreds of thousands of pounds. grace and favour cottages, you know, paid to get out of bed in the morning. well, yeah. to have to do a couple of these things now and then they might not find particularly convenient. with great privilege comes great responsibility. she knew that going complain? it going in, why she complain? it definitely not like she definitely. it's not like she wasn't under pressure terms wasn't under pressure in terms of appearance she was of her appearance when she was in of course, in hollywood because of course, that's all that's what hollywood is all about. accustomed being about. well, accustomed to being in what some in the spotlight and what some of the sort of mood music around the interview. so, for example , the interview. so, for example, this sort of rewriting of history is britain having this appalling race , this colonial appalling race, this colonial past glossing over the fact that we were far quicker to act on slavery than the americans who
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who, unlike us, imported into america and who had effective apartheid until the 1960s. i mean, it's the narrative now that we hear on an almost daily bafis that we hear on an almost daily basis pumped out by the kind of liberal, mainstream legacy media, britain's this terrible, racist country, its economy is dependent on illegal gains from the slave trade. the slave trade was at the heart of the british empire. we are an evil empire. and we need to do penance. we need to pay reparations to the rest of the until now, until the end of time. and it's all nonsense, you know, and then they claim that no one's ever taught this. is concealed taught this. this is concealed from in schools. we're told from us in schools. we're told this about, you know this fairy tale about, you know , all children are , this is all children are taught. taught be taught. now you're taught to be ashamed your country ashamed of your heritage and your history. what they neglect mention is what they neglect to mention is what distinguished the british empire not that profited empire was not that it profited it from slavery. every empire in human history has enslaved people virtually every dating back to ancient egypt . what
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back to ancient egypt. what makes the british empire exceptional is that we abolished slavery and we devoted blood and treasure to ending the slave trade. that's what makes us exceptional . the fact that we exceptional. the fact that we enslaved people. it neglects to mention also that more white europeans were enslaved by north african pirates and slaves before britain got involved in the transatlantic slave trade than black people were enslaved in the caribbean . traffic to the in the caribbean. traffic to the various colonies of america, something like 2 million white europe peons were enslaved. before the british empire came along. we didn't invent slavery . we just stopped it. along. we didn't invent slavery . we just stopped it . they're . we just stopped it. they're doing their bit. it would seem to destroy the british monarchy and they're certainly hurting the royal family and the brand they're in. but could they damage the special relationship as well? because we know that william and kate to america william and kate went to america and were largely well and they were largely well received. were boos in received. but there were boos in some . so is this some quarters. so is this damaging for uk and anglo—american relations? you know, i spent some time at an
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american university in the late eighties and i was very interested in the state of the special relationship . and i special relationship. and i asked my various professors in the government department, you know , what did they think? the know, what did they think? the fate of a special relationship was going to be? and they looked at me with complete mystification they'd never heard. professors heard. and these were professors of international of politics, international relations. they didn't know what i talking about. and i felt i was talking about. and i felt like a kind of fan of tom cruise, who's got a picture back from him after sending a fan from him after sending him a fan letter. i think me and tom letter. now i think me and tom have special relationship, i'm have a special relationship, i'm afraid. know, afraid. mark, you know, the americans regard americans don't regard it as a special relationship. that's a that's a figment of our imagination. and imagination. but this and i'm sure right, they are sure you're right, but they are the couple are defaming the country, aren't they? they're libelling basis. libelling us on a daily basis. they defaming the country they are defaming the country and is actually shocking that and it is actually shocking that they're profiting from running down brexit when britain has given harry and indeed meghan so much. i mean, it's disgraceful. and i hope they i hope they suffer for it. well, i'm counting my blessings because i
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just got to hear here from kelvin mackenzie joined us in the studio. my thanks to the brilliant toby young. check out the daily website , which the daily sceptic website, which is the best piece of journalism since sun newspaper the since sun newspaper in the eighties . and how will the press eighties. and how will the press . thanks very much , peggy. how . thanks very much, peggy. how will the press react to this story in the weeks and months ahead? is it the beginning of the end for harry and meghan in this ? i'll be asking. x this country? i'll be asking. x sun editor kelvin mackenzie, who, heard, live in who, as you've heard, is live in the but he needs the studio, but he needs make up. so can we sort that out? so you can see coming up on time, what's in tonight's as harry and meghan accuse crown and country of racism even tearing down the late queen's legacy by condemning the commonwealth. dan gives his unflinching take with royal insider is at the heart of the saga, including tom bower, lady colin campbell and phil dampier , plus meghan's sister dampier, plus meghan's sister samantha markle, reacts to being cast as the villain of her story, joined down 9 pm. to 11
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about prince andrew and the terrible deeds of prince . terrible deeds of prince. actually, since 2009, it was the british press who exposed andrew's relationship with jeffrey epstein. it was this coverage , the british press, coverage, the british press, that actually result in prince coverage, the british press, headliners.
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andrew doyle. and tonight i'm welcome back. it's mark dolan in for mark steyn . the emails are for mark steyn. the emails are coming in thick and fast. vaiews@gbnews.uk okay, this from charlotte and charlotte has sent in this message. she says the queen's legacy will live forever . the queen's legacy will live forever. this the queen's legacy will live forever . this tawdry little forever. this tawdry little z list race card carrying narcissa out will never be or amount to anything other than a lesson in superficial, wannabe culture and daisy chick is not pulling her punches either. don't be so utterly stupid. a thousand year old monarchy versus a zed list actress. neva, thanks for those. keep them coming. welcome back to the show. how will the media react ? harry and meghan's react? harry and meghan's bombshell documentary series, is this the beginning of the end
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for the couple here in britain? if you're the editor of a best selling tabloid newspaper , where selling tabloid newspaper, where do you take this story in, the weeks and months ahead? joining me now to answer that is a man who did just that with charles and diana when he was the editor of the sun newspaper, where he broke circulation records broke all circulation records for the paper, entrepreneur, journalist and co—founder of talksport radio kelvin mackenzie. blimey, kelvin , mackenzie. blimey, kelvin, you've done quite a lot. the dnnks you've done quite a lot. the drinks are on you, aren't they? at my age, you have to have done something. i mean, you can't just exist. you. no. so this is a serious thing right now. so it's a shocking advert. i've watched two of the episodes in full . it's shocking advert for full. it's a shocking advert for there's 200 million subscribers to netflix . so if anybody to netflix. so if anybody happens to look on it around the world, the only impression they're going to get is that is that the royal family black people, black people hate white people. and what people are terrible is beyond shocking . and terrible is beyond shocking. and the man who swallowed the book
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on this is harry. he pie . was it on this is harry. he pie. was it on? oh, i used to be . i used to on? oh, i used to be. i used to be a racist. i used to be there. so i used to be that i'm much better having married woman better having married this woman there. re—educated . there. how she'd re—educated. re—educated. and she then goes, well done , harry. well done. now well done, harry. well done. now think that funny. but then they get on the couple of guardian guards and by the way, race baiters on their a professor and some lady i can't say i've ever heard of basically piling it all on. why? so why aren't there any other people, for instance , this other people, for instance, this is going to be a big row about this. the pressure on the royal family is going to be enormous. they should come out and bank. they should come out and bank. they should come out and bank. they should them. they they should give them. they shouldn't complain , shouldn't say never complain, never express. no one likes us. we don't care . all that's over. we don't care. all that's over. this is a very dangerous area. they should get in and say x, y and z. they should produce the bullying report on meghan. just put it out there . there'll be put it out there. there'll be lots of newspapers that will be there should be a there and there should be a campaign think it's campaign and i think it's already started. so there's two
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kinds of campaigns. is take kinds of campaigns. one is take the titles away from. i think they have said we've they basically have said we've done you know, we're we've done now, you know, we're we've made 60, 70, 50 million made our 60, 70, 50 million whatever it is from netflix , whatever it is from netflix, who've allowed us to have 6 hours of pr fantastic. we've done that now actually take take away the titles almost because we don't need them anymore we've made our money. the other thing we should think about is making basically make it clear that they're not welcome in our land. they simply not welcome . and they are simply not welcome. and the. that's what i said the. well, that's what i said earlier. forget taking earlier. forget about taking away titles . take the away the titles. take the passports . well, i know the best passports. well, i know the best excuse. that is why you're running a tv show, i suspect. but i may be of this. i mean, that was a joke but the sentiment of it is the same, which is i don't think they're welcome here anymore. they will not be welcome. now, the issue then, course, because of the then, of course, because of the way the schism has now been way that the schism has now been created, it's a pr schism. i mean, honestly, we'd all like to have been half meghan to know
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what the war was towards meghan in this country when she announced when he announced that they were going to get married, was for i will never forget , was for i will never forget, meghan's mum sitting in that carriage, sitting in the car and being driven along. she must have been thinking, how did this all happen ? how did this all all happen? how did this all happen? well, everybody felt it. and clear is that she and what's clear is that she comes from meghan , comes from an comes from meghan, comes from an actress background . it hasn't actress background. it hasn't worked out great. you know, she's not she's not a great big star on netflix. there's been no rush to hire for some major movie or anything . so she's movie or anything. so she's become chippy along comes harry. slightly dim . former army slightly dim. former army officer . i'd slightly dim. former army officer. i'd like to know slightly dim. former army officer . i'd like to know how officer. i'd like to know how much of a great leader he was. right. and suddenly it's all started. it's great news for her, right? she stays at the front of it. she can start a career. she can say everybody's a racist. she can come to a foreign country and say, oh, look, it's much better in the united states . i've lived in the
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united states. i've lived in the united states. i've lived in the united states. i've lived in the united states . it is not much united states. it is not much better . there is shock. shock in better. there is shock. shock in areas where minority communities live altogether in in a lot of degrees of difficulty . that is degrees of difficulty. that is not the same as over here. over here i am proud of the brown people from the caribbean. i am proud of these people and there was no sense of that. there was no sense that the white community want to embrace everybody and that, yeah, there will be racist out there. you charlie may , there are brown charlie may, there are brown people, black people , all kinds people, black people, all kinds of people, chinese people who don't like each other . of people, chinese people who don't like each other. i tell you what, i urge anybody, who feels like they are in this country. go to india right now. find out how the hindus and the muslim , ms. how is everybody muslim, ms. how is everybody getting on over there? there is nowhere in the world where there are difficulties between people of different colours, different creeds , different religions. creeds, different religions. this is a very difficult area. women and what she has done once you start calling somebody a
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racist . how do you respond to racist. how do you respond to that? you say , no, i'm not a that? you say, no, i'm not a racist. what kind of response to that ? they know that's a bear that? they know that's a bear trap, isn't it it is. so you try not to get involved in it. i remember i remember one lady saying to me, i think your racist. i said, that is absolutely ridiculous. what makes you say that ? she said, makes you say that? she said, you look like one now. i presume what you mean was i was i was kind of getting old and i was a white head and i was white, you know. so but look, this is a serious thing for our country i want to see charles. i want to see william. i want to see somebody actually push back and say, boom boom, boom and boom . say, boom boom, boom and boom. this is not true. well, this is charles , his first great test, charles, his first great test, isn't it ? which is it is a test isn't it? which is it is a test for charles. what would you do? well, that's the dilemma. he's been through a couple of prime ministers, but british politics and creaking are and a creaking economy are the least it's his least of his worries. it's his own family got to be concerned about. i don't think you win about. i don't think you can win with couple the with this couple because the problem we mentioned problem is, as we mentioned earlier kinsey schofield,
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problem is, as we mentioned ear reporter kinsey schofield, problem is, as we mentioned ear reporter on|sey schofield, problem is, as we mentioned ear reporter on this schofield, problem is, as we mentioned ear reporter on this subject,i, us reporter on this subject, if you strip them of the titles plays into that narrative of being so wonder being victims. so i wonder whether have just ignore whether you have to just ignore this and wait for them to this couple and wait for them to run material with racism, run out of material with racism, there is no end of rhetoric , so there is no end of rhetoric, so there's always something out there's always something out there . there was always some there. there was always some idiot out there or something has gone it's been gone wrong or it's been misconstrued i think misconstrued. no, i don't think so. i think you've got to stand up for your family in in the up for your family in the in the day. is his son. is day. this is his son. this is his basically saying about his son. basically saying about his son. basically saying about his brother and b, charles , this his brother and b, charles, this dad, you know, look , you're dad, you know, look, you're a racist enterprise now. i picture you back. back at the helm at the sun. you never. good idea, by the way, that's a bad idea, rupert. if you watch it by the way, it give us give us a hundred million. i'll take it off your hands. well, listen, you could probably transform it as but where would you as a brand, but where would you take in the next few take the story in the next few days? would you come with days? would you come out with that belligerent saying, that belligerent tone saying, come it's time to come on, charles, it's time to be this their be tough with this guy, their audience their will audience their audience will want this is their want that. right. this is their problem their management not
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problem their management may not feel like that because because then you get some some media bias and we are a bit aggressive. but you're towards making you're poor. meghan just trousered 80 million quid by getting a getting a stupid company to pay. this is a man with daring criticise meghan markle, i considered to be markle, who i considered to be yoko right. she's the woman yoko ono. right. she's the woman that up the royal beatles. that broke up the royal beatles. she split family the she split the family down the middle you criticise middle. and yet if you criticise her, either you're racist or you're just a bad person, and possibly it you right wing possibly it makes you right wing nose. thing, i nose. latest thing, because i was about that as a was asking toby about that as a support couple. support for this couple. it's nearly versus right nearly a left versus right issue.i nearly a left versus right issue. i totally get it. but but what about this, which is diana invoking memory of their invoking the memory of their mother? of course, made mother? you of course, made diana a cultural figure when you were editor of the sun were the editor of the sun newspaper, when knocked on newspaper, when she knocked on the page that she did the from front page that she did it for years, didn't she actually think about what she was strangely , she was both was strangely, she was both popular and unpopular at the same time, but she was. so if you had nothing else to put on page one and the world hadn't
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imploded and, you know, boom, you stock that picture of diana on page one, the circulation would go through the so it would go through the roof. so it wasn't this was led by the consumer . wasn't this was led by the consumer. the consumer wanted the mum . and thought it was the mum. and i thought it was quite unfair to suggest that his wife, meghan was the same as a vertical . well, look at look at vertical. well, look at look at the rest of the family, you know. what about kate? she came from a perfectly ordinary middle class family. right? right. that was a pretty successful business quy- was a pretty successful business guy.she was a pretty successful business guy. she has been a fantastic model . but guy. she has been a fantastic model. but meghan wanted and i don't blame her for this wanted voice and she couldn't get a voice and she couldn't get a voice in the under the under the royal family. so she went 6000 miles away and now she's got a voice and she's trousered 80000002 seconds. by the way, these attacks on meghan apparently racist, but what about the dogs abuse that fergie got years? sarah ferguson got for years? sarah ferguson yeah, toe sucking, yeah, every toe sucking, all that nonsense. yeah that all that nonsense. yeah yeah. don't go for that, yeah. well, i don't go for that, kelvin. been kelvin. not anymore. i've been married time since i've married a long time since i've been the europa. i go been to the europa. this i go more often. glad to hear it. the
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brilliant kelvin mackenzie look forward return shortly. forward to his return shortly. dan is live at nine and dan wootton is live at nine and this is going to be must see television hi dad. well that was must television honestly must see television honestly what kinsey schofield what a show kinsey schofield kelvin i was kelvin mackenzie i was absolutely gripped but yes we're going blockbuster on this tonight. obviously it's the biggest story in the world. harry and meghan trying to bring down the british royal family. of course, she also trashed her own , especially her own family, especially her sister, samantha markle. she's going to hit back live tonight in a world exclusive interview , in a world exclusive interview, mark. plus, we've got tom bower, lady victoria , harvey, lady lady victoria, harvey, lady colin campbell and bob seely. he is the tory mp who is about to table a private member's to bill strip harry and meghan of their title. so it's all going on tonight. mark the incredible dan wootton is next. and don't miss a second. of course, i'm back tomorrow night at the earlier time of 8:00 for mark dolan tonight. that's tomorrow, saturday and sunday. so join me
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then. my thanks to the brilliant kelvin mackenzie also toby young and also kinsey schofield. you check out her website to die for daily dance . month where, you know, certainly for me sometimes you catch up on bills and suppliers and, you know, it's a family summit left for you, you know, and you you're mindful that you're going
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into january and february , which into january and february, which are really bad months. so december is crucial for our sector for and them to do these strikes . and they've been told strikes. and they've been told how much it's going to, i think it was 40. kate nicholls quoted. you know it's so damaging it will cost jobs , people won't be will cost jobs, people won't be getting their shifts . businesses getting their shifts. businesses might have been
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. so can we just please, please is ashley still has that security next watson tonight the monarchy is under attack and it's an inside job. and the opening salvo of their netflix funded hate campaign . and prince harry and campaign. and prince harry and meghan have declared war on britain herself , accusing crown britain herself, accusing crown and country of racism and even tearing down the late queen elizabeth's legacy. but condemning the commonwealth as the empire by name, they say. now, people are very aware of my race because . they made it such race because. they made it such an issue when i went to the uk, but i'll deliver my blistering review in my digest next before
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