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supporter. i mean if we've got a game like that tonight i'm going to be all over place. but if to be all over the place. but if we can if we can do what we've been yeah, we've been doing, yeah, i reckon we've got a around hundred got a chance around hundred migrants been intercepted. migrants have been intercepted. the morning , migrants have been intercepted. the morning, one the channel this morning, one group managed to land on beach group managed to land on a beach , some fire hoe near dover. they've now been taken to the ftx centre karma . conditions of ftx centre karma. conditions of reportedly making journey easier today. over 44,000 people have crossed the channel so far this year. crossed the channel so far this year . a domestic based has year. a domestic based has paused operations over safety fears after the royal race row. it comes after spoke about her treatment by prince william's lady susan hussey , who lady susan hussey, who repeatedly asked her where she really from. during a reception buckingham palace, the sister space charity found, it says she and her received horrific abuse on social media. the charity says it will reinstate services as soon as it is safe to do so. and the king says they reassure ring presence of ancient trees .

ring presence of ancient trees. woodlands is a fitting tribute to his late mother, the monarch's words are part of a foreword for a book called the queen's green canopy . it queen's green canopy. it features photos of , 70 age old features photos of, 70 age old trees and 70 historic woodlands , which were dedicated to queen elizabeth to mark her platinum jubilee. the book will be published in june, but its images are currently on display . a public exhibition in london london . this is gb news will london. this is gb news will bnng london. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to nana akua. good afternoon . is fast good afternoon. is fast approaching 7 minutes after 4:00. this is this on tv and on digital right here . i'm not a digital right here. i'm not a square . what can i say at the square. what can i say at the start of this docu , i was start of this docu, i was getting all gushy , loved up getting all gushy, loved up feelings, watching the first bit

harry and meghan, the story you almost got me. you too. but what followed they'd soft me up was subliminal onslaught. the onslaught digs at just how racist this is. the one that gave them both their titles and them the platform to systematically it off. yeah. good old soft touch uk having lived in this country for all of i think it was what 18 months at our expense and most of which she spent in the palace while jetting around the world and doing a handful of engagements where she received by was received british public received the british public pretty . meghan appears to pretty well. meghan appears to be pointing out that this backlash she is receiving is because of her race or very different to be a minority, but not be treated as a minority. right the bat. obviously now people are very aware of my race because they made it such an issue when i went to the uk. but before that most people didn't

treat me like a black woman . so treat me like a black woman. so that talk didn't have to happen for me . i'm black. how can you for me. i'm black. how can you possibly know how that i can no more know how it feels to be a mixed race woman that looks practically white. then you can to be black . what a ridiculous to be black. what a ridiculous and frankly insulting to say, especially given that she feels she's been treated badly , her she's been treated badly, her mum, when actually . i she's been treated badly, her mum, when actually. i can she's been treated badly, her mum, when actually . i can see mum, when actually. i can see why she kept a all this time. she appeared to confirm that meghan's treatment was all about race. i said to her, i remember this very clearly . race. i said to her, i remember this very clearly. this is about race and makes it mommy me. i don't want to hear that as well. you may not want to hear it, but this is what's coming down the pike? have you talks about how the other royal were treated badly. but with there is a race element more talk about race than a story about how her mum

was called the n—word in america . although what that has to do with racism, the uk is beyond me. same if you want to escape racism , move there. one of the racism, move there. one of the most racially divided countries the world. it was almost laughable if they actually appeared to be taking themselves seriously . and with two woke seriously. and with two woke warriors . give us the historical warriors. give us the historical context . the british empire. we context. the british empire. we have clips , slave images in the have clips, slave images in the story of a racist brooch worn by princess michael of kent. maybe in the next, we'll see. meghan wearing the gifts from the dodgy saudi prince. we got a lesson about the evil british empire . about the evil british empire. we see artwork depicting black people as slaves which the voice save. it seems to imply the power in palaces. none of these images , by the way, the whole images, by the way, the whole narrative seemed to point towards the views the monarchy is institutionally races . meghan is institutionally races. meghan then mocks kurt, saying to our dearly departed queen . was like dearly departed queen. was like that like i curtsy as i was like. pl

majesty . so was that okay . well, majesty. so was that okay. well, no, it it's actually pretty disrespectful . these two really disrespectful. these two really believed that their treatment was down to the fact that meghan is biracial. although if you hadnt is biracial. although if you hadn't told me, i wouldn't have guessed. none of could possibly be down to the climate preaching their treatment staff, the ugly self—pitying that awful tom bradby face when they visited people who'd had limbs off by landmines. nobody so i am the oprah interview was already prepared. philip was dying. the rift between the two brothers and the fact. apart from doria, both them don't speak to any members of their families at all. and now, three months after the death of our queen, they're pumping out this bilge . none of pumping out this bilge. none of this, it would seem , they this, it would seem, they believe, is their fault at all. look not saying that they

haven't experienced racism , but haven't experienced racism, but my view of them has nothing to do with meghan's skin colour. to be honest, we should have known even the trailer felt pretty disingenuous where they claimed they would unveil full truth about the dirt media tactics which they said forced them to leave their roles as working royals. a press feeding frenzy. harry targeted at his wife with a montage of paparazzi shots . a montage of paparazzi shots. only it out that one of the pictures was taken from price's court appearance. crawley magistrates court is in the background , another where background, another where photographers surrounding a limousine taken from archive footage of donald trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, leaving his new york apartment for prison after he was jailed for tax fraud and lying. you mean you couldn't make up even in the teaser? the press shots were actually from a harry potter premiere before they met. there was, of course, no suggestion that they are trying to deceive us. they so they could use their own staff. after all, they did

sneak a photographer. the palace the next three episodes out on thursday. i think after that, frankly, it's curtains for this path. i think we've all seen enough. path. i think we've all seen enough . so before we get stuck enough. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today at the great british debate this hour. i'll you should harry and meghan be stripped of their titles. mp for sussex constituency tim has called for harry meghan's titles to be stripped. he's expressed frustration that the couple have shown to monarchy and the british people. so it time for them to get rid . then we'll talk them to get rid. then we'll talk strikes . it seems everyone wants strikes. it seems everyone wants to go on one with the predictions. it actually to 15,000 cancelled appointments and a real strike that will devastate many venues who are badly affected during the pandemic . have the british pandemic. have the british pubuc pandemic. have the british public sympathy for public lost sympathy for striking then for 50 striking workers then for 50 years? royal roundup time, royal angela levin will be in the studio. give us all the latest from behind palace walls.

camilla, queen consort , camilla, the queen consort, hosted evening the see of the hosted an evening the see of the ill children at clarence house to open festive season. she ianed to open festive season. she invited , the youngsters invited, the youngsters alongside their families help alongside their families to help decorate tree as decorate the christmas tree as part of annual tradition. part of an annual tradition. then at 5:00, stay tuned. it's this week's difficult. artist matt will be live in the studio now. matt was part of the band eb 40, but during the covid pandemic , matt refused to take pandemic, matt refused to take the job due to medical issues and.he the job due to medical issues and. he claims he was then dismissed from the band. he's now released a single called strong to help people keep people spirits up. during his time. stay tuned. that's on the way. tell me what you think as ever on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news news . gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news news. right. let's gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news news . right. let's get gb news news. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broad cast columnist lizzie cundy and also consultant editor of the daily mail, andrew pesce , where andrew, though

pesce, where andrew, though there is . yeah, he's a st there is. yeah, he's a st andrew. lovely to see. i got to see as well too. so i'll just start with you andrew. okay. did you get to see footage? you did. okay what? what did you think? what was your initial impression? another great. long shelf , indulgent whinge fest shelf, indulgent whinge fest from an incredibly privileged couple. speaking from the luxury of their couple. speaking from the luxury of thei r £15 million california of their £15 million california home at terrible wicked world they live in. but the only reason netflix is paying them $100 million or pounds is because she married into the royal family, which clearly despises and. i thought the probably then lowest point in the 3 hours. and then quite a few to choose from was she mocked the queen's curtsy . mocked the queen's curtsy. curtsy to the queen. what hell. and harry looks thunderstruck. you can see on his face clearly they've got no control over what netflix do and don't use. because bet you he tried to get that whole . i would imagine him that whole. i would imagine him and netflix would have just. i'm

terribly sorry but we're paying you we can use you hundred million we can use what they are what we like. they are just beyond evidence to beyond the pale. no evidence to substantiate these allegations of racism. we still don't know which family said, which member of the family said, well, be more black or well, your be more black or white and i'm so glad you make the point. she looks white. look what i mean. and that's not you know, that's just a fact. this is how i see it. if she was stood next to you, people would say, you're the black woman, she's the white one. yeah. and she's the white one. yeah. and she's milked this thing ever since. came into lives . and since. came into our lives. and for it's got nothing to do for me, it's got nothing to do with his skin. i don't with the of his skin. i don't care what colleges. i don't like the way she's behaved. that's that's think, could be that's it. i think, she could be green ten yellow spots on. green with ten yellow spots on. it difference to me it makes no no difference to me it makes no no difference to me i she's disrespectfully. i think she's disrespectfully. i think they've committed treason actually they're to bring down the monarchy and. i think their behaviour is disgusting as. you said that bit where she said andrew that bit where she did thought did curtsy. i actually thought harry looked as if to say you're lying. he looked embarrassed me. but i think he can't control her. and i think it shows an

absolute disrespect to the royal family traditions. it's an assault on our late queen. and don't forget this , is a family don't forget this, is a family still in grief know we only lost the queen just three months ago. you know how disrespectful . you you know how disrespectful. you know, harry, you know, talks about grief and we're all so you know, sad that he lost his mother at such a young age. my father was just lost his mother. you know what , william, who also you know what, william, who also lost his mother and has lost his grandmother, his it's utterly selfish . and i really do feel selfish. and i really do feel they're trying to bring down the whole institution . he also whole institution. he also virtually wrote his father of the narrative. but you've talked you talked the awesomeness you talked about the awesomeness of mother. was a huge fan of his mother. i was a huge fan of his mother. i was a huge fan of the princess diana and it was a terrible tragedy what happened ? it was it fractured the ultimate price of getting in a car with a drunk driver not wearing a seatbelt. forget all the conspiracy theories, but he virtually wrote his father out of script. and how dare he of that script. and how dare he suggest he and, meghan, are the

only royals to marry terrible for love thought that was a must , an absolute dig at william and kate and another thing which i. i really dislike throughout the sort of grim of kate who's always is a smiling and also does hug because there was that big that she wasn't like another thing that i really i hated the hugging as well because i'm a hugger but british people don't talk what do you only play for 18 months or so you didn't speak to anybody to get anyone this country. how dare you insult and william , william and kate from william, william and kate from i've told that they've got a fantastic marriage. they look pretty good. the queen and prince were married for 73 years. it's it was a fantastic marriage . this these guys are marriage. this these guys are the ones who've been together the ones who've been together the least before. got married? yeah. catherine and william were together through university . together through university. through everything. together these two broke up, got back together , went through it all. together, went through it all. camilla and charles, they have had a love story going on for

decades. what do you think? it's right. wrong. they have. yeah. then you've got the prince. prince and the. yeah. what is it . oh how can he think that after being with this woman. for what. how many years. not even six years or whatever. that it's . years or whatever. that it's. everything's perfect. we're better than others . i found better than the others. i found it disgusting . that was it really disgusting. that was kind of critical, i guess . it's kind of critical, i guess. it's countess wessex. she's not countess to wessex. she's not from a royal moat . the mould of from a royal moat. the mould of father have something do with tyas? this. this mix tyas? exactly this. this mix should be called liar, liar, pants on fire. because the beginning, as you said, nana, from trailer, the paparazzi shots, they weren't even for katie price is still you can drive that scrolling magistrates court won't this going straight to prison because he's going to see that they had to use these clips because there were no clips because there were no clips of the media stalking meghan in the way they wanted us to believe that's point because it's not like it was five years ago and princess diana denied who was a worldwide icon . she

who was a worldwide icon. she was sued relentlessly too much. it didn't happen like to meghan. yeah well what worries me is this is people think this their true their truth. well you know what was you saying charles please get gloves off. you'll stick up for your family because they're saying all these allegations without any substance, i think slightly for the worst bit was all the colonial stuff. i found that deeply disingenuous because one of the things they didn't mention with all the cloning stuff is that actually the african people did sell their people slaves. know people to become slaves. so know saying, english people saying, oh, the english people they as though you they made sound as though you know, black people were just simply ripped away from their place maybe of them place and maybe some of them were, the end of the day, you were, at the end of the day, you going tell the story, the going to tell the story, the truth? it was a it was a trade. it was business. it was wrong. it was business. it was wrong. it was business. it was wrong. it was bad. but people of those countries to suggest countries and also to suggest that that right that that that that right the racist artwork imagery racist of artwork and imagery was in the palaces. why isn't that not true just small that not true just one small basically because thing at basically because one thing at her a brilliant her show she's a brilliant actress because has

actress because the whole has been and from beginning been an act and from beginning to they started filming to end and they started filming this a time ago got good 22 this a long time ago got good 22 months ago. so well, anyway, listen, if you haven't seen , listen, if you haven't seen, maybe you don't need to see it. maybe see it. but maybe you want to see it. but i think once you've seen it, i don't know what you'll up for don't know what you'll be up for the day. so what do you the next day. so what do you think? get in touch. would love to hear your thoughts, the monologue, the place. monologue, you know, the place. but me, welcome but if you just join me, welcome on i'm away. this is on board. i'm not away. this is a news where long tv a gb news where long on tv onune a gb news where long on tv online and digital video. after the great british the break, the great british this is to carry on this hour is going to carry on with this theme. harry and meghan, should they be stripped of titles? mp for one of their titles? the mp for one of their titles? the mp for one of constituencies in sussex, of the constituencies in sussex, lawson, the king lawson, has called upon the king to and meghan's to remove harry and meghan's royal. the right royal. but is this the right decision after all, they might end prince and end up being prince and princess. me princess. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk. tell me what you me gbviews@gbnews.uk. tell me what you me news. you think. tweet me at gb news. got a pull up asking you that very question. should and very question. should harry and meghan of their. meghan be stripped of their. cast now. we'll cast your vote now. we'll be back after . cast your vote now. we'll be herself and a perpetual liar.

king charles needs get a grip and do something before harry and do something before harry and destroy the monarchy . i'm and destroy the monarchy. i'm not watching their documentary. i'm not interested in fiction . i'm not interested in fiction. that's jackie's view. that's her. what's yours? drop me a line if you disagree and you'd like to speak . line if you disagree and you'd like to speak. up for meghan markle . in the end, she is just markle. in the end, she is just a human . she's a young woman. it a human. she's a young woman. it can't be easy to be in the spotlight. so there are two sides to every story later in show. does sex stop 60 should wolf whistling

we've this, we go and take them out the french coast, but actually bringing proposals our hotel and we fast track them become british citizens . that become british citizens. that isn't the answer to our immigration. isn't the answer to our immigration . all right. that's immigration. all right. that's not the and of course , richard not the and of course, richard tice is on record as saying he's going to go with the paris

wolf whistling become a crime? and is it too old? and don't forget, at ten, nick at least, and the man that literally broke the bank but we'll talk whistling next are you as one of my female viewers flattered when a bloke does the right or do you find it a slap in the face? we'll discuss that .

good afternoon. if you just join me, where have you paid? well, i want gb news. i've done a query live on tv, online and on digital. we are the people's channel. now, before the break, we are discussing harry and new documentary or docu soap calling it. what been it. let's see what you've been saying. mocking queen. saying. says yes. mocking queen. it was a disgrace, especially when she was suffering during the late years of her life. that hideous curtsy . awful, wasn't hideous curtsy. awful, wasn't it? just makes sense. if they want privacy, fine but then create an entire drama series about it. harry not be criticising the very that brought him up. lillian meghan has won the war. she married into royalty, then dragged harry away to and isolated him from his family . the man who was one his family. the man who was one of the most, most popular royals at one point. it's sad. yeah, i think it is quite . but he think it is quite. but he doesn't seem to mind it. it is quite happy about it. it we are. but let's carry on with the

theme in our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, what you think? should they what do you think? should they have that stripped back that champions, including lee, champions, including foxy lee, have harry and meghan have called for harry and meghan to their royal to be stripped of their royal titles. that's following titles. now, that's following release of their controversial documentary . now, the couple documentary. now, the couple have been accused of have actually been accused of attacking royal family the attacking the royal family the press and the great british pubuc. press and the great british public . if press and the great british public. if you've a press and the great british public . if you've a look at public. if you've had a look at that, you might actually with that. think did. the isle that. i think they did. the isle wight has said that. this has wight mp has said that. this has now become political issue and now become a political issue and is looking to bring legislation that could their titles that could see their titles removed but minister removed. but prime minister weeks seen and did not back weeks has seen and did not back this. meanwhile an mp of, one of the sussex constituencies, tim , the sussex constituencies, tim, claims it's time to take the titles back due to the lack of respect and that is all his employment minister, guy opperman, said that he would the next series. that reportedly going to earn the couple more than million quid. so what do than 80 million quid. so what do you think. should we remove that? do deserve to lose that? do they deserve to lose them or should they be just left to their own devices? so the to their own devices? so for the great this out, that is great debate, this out, that is the question. what do you think?

joined by a royal butler, joined now by a royal butler, grant harrold, political commentator reality tv commentator, abraham, reality tv star and commentator in the car and royal insider and socialite lady victoria hervey. right. so lady victoria, i want to start with you. i mean i'm presuming everyone here watched thing. we all watched it. yeah lady victoria, do you say? what victoria, what do you say? what was first thought to so? was your first thought to so? well, my thought. i mean. yes, completely disrespect for obviously. as as taking obviously. i think as as taking the titles away . look what the titles away. look what prince harry. he was born prince harry. i think you can take that that title away from him. i think you can take that . can think you can take that. can duchess title from them because ever since they've married, obviously, like it's just complete disrespect for like every single thing they've but for him being prince that is his name that he was born. so i don't think they could ever possibly strip him of that. but take the duke and duchess away and they should not be able to use their name in public for any engagements , any like anything. engagements, any like anything. but then there'll be prince and

princess. what what do you think? no, she's never think? no, no, no. she's never going she'll never be going be. she'll never be a princess. away the princess. if so, take away the titles. then prince harry will remain prince harry, and she'll just be meghan markle. yeah, but he able any of what he won't be able do any of what he's now with his name. he's doing now with his name. okay that's not. okay okay. well, that's not. i mean, i feel for the mean, i feel bad for the children, though, because i think kids, you know, his think the kids, you know, his children , when grow up, you children, when they grow up, you know, to probably know, they're going to probably lose whichever titles that they were actually going to inherit, i imagine. so but meghan did that. she wants them to be normal people . she doesn't want normal people. she doesn't want them to have to bribe, but she, of course. but she said that and that's because she wanted that . that's because she wanted that. right. say, oh , they right. didn't she say, oh, they weren't given prince and princess, they were little. and that's because of, know, i'm that's because of, you know, i'm half and that whole. so half black. and that whole. so let let bring in here let me play let me bring in here in the car, in the window. what was hey, nana . was your thoughts. hey, nana. hey, victoria. think everyone hey, victoria. i think everyone , andrew and lizzy. sorry andrew, lizzy. you all sound positively mad at you all sort of deluded . i don't know which of deluded. i don't know which part that document you watch and

didn't see what i saw, which was a tormented couple experience. so which is why the hell should that titles be off them? if you're going to take this please that take prince andrew's title of them as well because i think prince andrew does that up and no one to really talk no one seems to really talk about. actually actually about. well, actually actually totally innocent. that's not what is going . on with him. what is going. on with him. yeah, but he's none of it. you don't know what i know. so these allegations have . no, hold up allegations have. no, hold up knowing that. but these allegations haven't been verified so they carry different spelling out have met them being caught out . let's bring it let's caught out. let's bring it let's let's bring in got our. caught out. let's bring it let's let's bring in got our . what do let's bring in got our. what do you think. i think it's a difficult one because obviously the title was given by the queen and as victoria mentioned, you can't just take the title. can't just taken away. they can't. i mean, of course it specific to conduct its way but she would still to manage she's still princess henry of wales and

she'll probably use that as the title it came to it. so i don't think it's going to really resolve the issue, but i agree the document. i've watched it and it is not great. i mean , i and it is not great. i mean, i feel i'm really so obviously i'm glad the queen's not here to see that document, but the probably break her heart. that document, but the probably break her heart . and who knows? break her heart. and who knows? i mean, i just don't think she would have if she was here today. i don't think she would take those titles away. but it's a tricky one. i just. sorry for the family. well it's been in abraham. i mean, what you think. what's your thoughts on this ? what's your thoughts on this? no, i mean, i am sick to the death of hearing about unconscious bias and this idea that we have to continue to look back into the past. and meghan's conversation and think about colonialism and her entire point about sorry, blacks, the positive , the unconscious. we positive, the unconscious. we know happened. we've moved on. creation thinks that importing the american political dialogue around racism uk is just not acceptable. she's accused people

of racism. none of those seem to be founded on i think it's quite frankly, stupid . well, linda, frankly, stupid. well, linda, you're shaking your head for. me and you accuse the media she didn't accuse the royal family at all of racial . you need to be at all of racial. you need to be clear. you are the. no, no, no, no, no , not me. you can no, no, not me. you can undermine narinder. she did actually say that somebody in the royal household made comments about archie's skin. i mean , that she's accusing the mean, that she's accusing the oprah theory. that was in the oprah theory. that was in the oprah interview. there it was, harry. that's meghan agreed. and she and need to be exposed . she and need to be exposed. yeah, but it won't so deluded . yeah, but it won't so deluded. well, you know, you may say that , but i didn't see it. you what they're saying. i don't think there's anything particularly nice about . there's anything particularly nice about. so i can i finish this . i nice about. so i can i finish this. i don't think there's anything i don't think there's anything i don't think there's anything particularly racist about i'm talking about one thing i'm talking darker will be my son is darker skin will be my son is called ivory and we all called ivory and we were all laughing thought, laughing because we thought, god, what if turns out really dark ivory is like light dark ivory is like very light colour. have to change it 20

colour. we have to change it 20 times . so colour. we have to change it 20 times. so what do you think , times. so what do you think, lady victoria? what is that? what? lady victoria do you think, paul? well, you know what what they're saying, i mean she's that there was she's saying that there was nothing racist in there, you know. mean look there was know. i mean look there was definitely connotations of racism that both harry and meghan talking about. i think it will be interesting . the second will be interesting. the second part of this, i feel like we're to get we're going to get more than we did in the first one. yes, it could have been almost a little bit worse, but the way meghan makes fun of the queen it's just like very unsafe victoria. well, what about one of the queen? she didn't make you watch the show than i did, obviously. could just. it's just silly . she's just saying it's silly. she's just saying it's silly. she's just saying it's silly about herself she didn't she didn't mock the great one. well, a lot of people she mocked she she did into her a lot of people are taking that very badly. grant what do you think?

i mean, you saw the curtsy. would you say that was? pretty distasteful. yeah. when distasteful. yeah. i mean, when i when i distasteful. yeah. i mean, when iwhen i saw distasteful. yeah. i mean, when i when i saw at the time and she brought up, i just thought, i can't believe what i'm to hear and see. and, know the whole and see. and, you know the whole thing, i just don't understand why the documentary why they've done the documentary i i get that they've got i mean, i get that they've got a story to want to tell. i just, i just don't get that. it's just not a that royals do never not a thing that royals do never have done it. they shouldn't do . i mean, i think when they were going to, when they're going to step do these, i just step back, do these, i just assumed do wrong assumed they would do wrong thing. think they thing. i don't think they were going things media going to things in the media because obviously are non—working royal celebrity royals, as i call but royals, as i call them. but think these kind of things they're doing. i feel sorry because it's such good because it's such a good relationship with family and relationship with the family and i see how going i just don't see how going to get back. really don't. get that back. i really don't. it's good to all them of doing interviews. yeah, but without meghan doing an interview issue here is that sort of we can't get rid of the title. the less we try not to parliament on the issues. so maybe behind their

entire idea around yeah we want our private line, we want to have our children to have a normal life the us may come out with a documentary. that's not how your private life can come out. like what we do with my life to stop some the family trying to get things. yeah, well, hate that . well, it's well, i hate that. well, it's not going to thank you for all the lovely talk to you. grant howard, lady victoria harvey and nannder howard, lady victoria harvey and narinder carr. good to talk to you.thank narinder carr. good to talk to you. thank you for that. so what do think what your thoughts do think what are your thoughts then? this is gb news. well, live on tv, and on live on tv, online and on digital . live on tv, online and on digital. thank you . this is so digital. thank you. this is so what do you think, your thoughts? i mean after the break we'll be discussing that i've done quote. we'll continue with the should harry the debate asking should harry and stripped of that and meghan be stripped of that title to hit the thoughts my title to hit the thoughts of my panel columnist panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie consultant lizzie cundy and also consultant at andrew pesce. at the daily mail, andrew pesce. then don't forget 5:00 this week. difficult conversation. reggae from top ub40 reggae artist from that top ub40 featuring campbell and astro will be live in the studio talking about how is a decision to refuse the vaccine to medical

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beginning say look just a minute this climate thing not real it's signs it's a bit of a gb news. welcome back . this gb news. welcome back. this is dvd is on tv online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm not a quitter. now it's time for our great british debate this houn our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should harry and meghan be stripped their and meghan be stripped of their titles release of titles following the release of their documentary? their controversial documentary? movies called for harry and movies have called for harry and meghan have their titles meghan to have their titles removed. couple have removed. now the couple have been attacking the royal been accused attacking the royal family, press and the great family, the press and the great british public. isle of wight mp bob seely has said that this has now become a political issue and wants to bring in legislation that could see their titles removed. thai prime minster rishi sunak didn't really back the idea . so did harry and

the idea. so did harry and meghan to lose their titles . i meghan to lose their titles. i mean, will it be? will it actually be a positive thing? will it have any effect or should they ? should they be left should they? should they be left to their own devices? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm should they be stripped of those titles? what my those titles? let's see what my panel i'm joined panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie also a consultant lizzie cundy, also a consultant editor mail. andrew editor at the daily mail. andrew pearce. so, lizzie, pearce. right so, lizzie, i'm going start you . going to start with you. stripping titles written stripping at the titles written scripts in a way they're not. anybody get a word in edgewise . anybody get a word in edgewise. but she seemed to think that a lot like her her soul is . what lot like her her soul is. what would you say? yeah, no, i think they should lose their titles because they're making money out the royal family. and they the royal family. and if they hate much and i think hate it that much and i think it's got there's a there's this race ism in the royal family that they don't have the title making money out of it. how they get their own identity and stop bleating and whinge and moaning in. they just they do something goodin in. they just they do something good in life instead of this. i

mean, imagine trashing your family like that. how much of that and their family and they're still grieving . it's they're still grieving. it's almost like evil. look at that. we've got look what we've done to this all a bit. i'm thinking , why would you do that? why would you do that? and they're hurting the royal family. and they're the tradition, they're hurting the tradition, they're hurting the tradition, the monarchy , all of the amazing the monarchy, all of the amazing 70 years hard work of all late queen. and my only saving grace is that our queen isn't there to see this and witness it. i agree with what lucy saying, but i have to problem i have about this. if we strip them of duke and of sussex, which was and duchess of sussex, which was and duchess of sussex, which was a the queen on their a gift from the queen on their wedding , a gift from the queen on their wedding, harry is still prince. he a prince and the he was born a prince and the ultimate his wife. the dread meghan becomes , princess harry. meghan becomes, princess harry. so she would then become a princess . she's behaving like a princess. she's behaving like a princess. she's behaving like a princess. if you get my drift. anyway so if we could find a way that they could only be mr. and mrs. playing windsor, then yes.

take it. but i don't mind you if those titles are taken away , those titles are taken away, that will have a massive emotional merit. but what i'm saying is that that can't be done because it's almost like a birthright. can we remove. i don't know that. you can remove it. it's almost like if you if you can remove prince as . well, you can remove prince as. well, i would not. but if you can't then i think they'd be much more insufferable if she's called princess meghan, she would be known as princess harry, but she would not, but she would call herself princess meghan and. and as the male, i've done brilliantly in my paper today, i'm mocking the queen. how she curtsy to the queen how many times people curtsy to her? i wouldn't go. well, if that's all about what harry is about, stand in her eyes. yes, well, i'll take that back. the titles were taken. she lose her credibility, and let's not forget she. she wants to political career in america . let's be honest we know america. let's be honest we know she wants that and it will take away all of that. and my friends

in america watching i applaud they are quite with what's going on. they really and i am for why she did that curtsy i think she will have to probably wanted that out of that meeting see if we see any of the black glitterati in the united still supporting the obamas for instance. i don't think the obamas will. no, i think i think they're gone. but i don't think judgement that gayle king's at all that i think they're still on board. let's see what. the viewers this is nothing viewers think this is nothing without know says without you know if she says welcome a british voice on welcome a great british voice on your opportunity to be on this show and tell us what you think about the topics we're discussing. over to discussing. let's head over to bristol. let's to our bristol. let's speak to our regular british voice, regular great british voice, leigh lovely leigh harris. leigh lovely right. think did right. what you think you did you thing . i haven't no you watch thing. i haven't no idea . tempted to. i've i'm idea. tempted to. i've i'm tempted but i don't know whether i want to waste parts of my life watching it, to be honest. well, you won't get those 3 hours back just to find out what's going on. but in short. yes absolutely, they should . absolutely, they should. stripped of their royal titles,

the serious possible. i'm really glad tyrone have pulled up in can be picked up in the house of commons and i'm very disappointed to hear that she doesn't it he he needs read through . you know they've abused through. you know they've abused their royal status sorry for their royal status sorry for their own self—promotion financial gain and actively campaigned to undermine the british monarchy and pretty much everything we stand for and hold dean everything we stand for and hold dear. yeah you know, i complete understand why king charles has kept a dignified silence , know kept a dignified silence, know he loves harry. and this must be immensely difficult for him after all, this happened recently . but i believe the time recently. but i believe the time come for him to stand up for this country, you know, defend our culture and our monarchy against these slurs . it needs to against these slurs. it needs to show some leadership and then strip them of their titles. i think. yeah well, i think listen. well i think most people

think that. but i'd go actually remove the prince thing as well. listen, leigh it's really good to talk to you. thank you so much for joining to talk to you. thank you so much forjoining me as ever. much for joining me as ever. leigh harris are great writers voice, lovely speak you. so voice, lovely speak to you. so we'll keep your thoughts coming. keep those messages coming. we've but we've read all these emails, but at the moment, you know what, it strikes we've mass strikes city. we've got mass strikes city. we've got mass strikes over country. strikes all over country. they're paralyse the they're set to paralyse the nafion they're set to paralyse the nation winter period. they're set to paralyse the neyou winter period. they're set to paralyse the neyou look winter period. they're set to paralyse the neyou look at winter period. they're set to paralyse the neyou look at vwe're period. they're set to paralyse the neyou look at vwe're going. if you look at it, we're going through coats, cold and through coats, cold spell and thousands workers thousands of postal workers striking over problems with pay which prevent members of which could prevent members of the parcels the public receiving parcels dunng the public receiving parcels during period . during the christmas period. although i people have got although i think people have got alternatives to you know alternatives to do you know we've got and there's dhl and of them and these and all the other that can deliver so . i don't that can deliver so. i don't know whether we're going to miss them and that says the strike and well these people is and well we miss these people is expected cause 15,000 expected to cause 15,000 operations to be cancelled which will to backlog that will add to the backlog that already due to pandemic. already exists due to pandemic. and workers and meanwhile, railway workers now are to strike and walk now are set to strike and walk out during season that out during festive season that will nasties disruption in will cause nasties disruption in the to come. so is the

the weeks to come. so is the pubuc the weeks to come. so is the public losing sympathy for the strikers. after all the will ultimately pick up the. let's see what my panel make of i've got consultant editor at the daily pesce lizzie daily mail pesce and also lizzie cundy broadcast, star journalist. do you think ? journalist. what do you think? is it losing sympathy , these is it losing sympathy, these people? well, i haven't got any anyway , absolutely none that the anyway, absolutely none that the postal workers literally turkeys voting for christmas this is the busiest time of year for the post. there was an ad in all the newspapers this week from the head the post office pointing head of the post office pointing out office was already out the post office was already losing the royal mail was losing £1,000,000 a day. that's before these workers these postal workers committed harry. on strike harry. carey i went on strike for five during the busiest for five days during the busiest penod for five days during the busiest period year. people period of the year. so people bother to anything or just bother to post anything or just some suggestions. today you'll get christmas cards in february and go back to it and we're and they go back to it and we're already sending 60% less mail. it'll a lot more. what are they thinking of? it is completely that it self—destructed. exactly same i think for the rail workers . so many people now work workers. so many people now work from . they will continue to work from. they will continue to work

from. they will continue to work from home fewer people will be on the trains and it's really destructive talk. now i'm going to in bob crowe the head of rmt lynch wants to meet the prime minister. i think he knows this strike is on. i think he knows it's not working. i think he realises it's been a terrible miscalculation to inflict four days of strikes right over the christmas break when he promised in various media interviews he was not going to take christmas. mick lynch , the grinch, he's in mick lynch, the grinch, he's in trouble and other thing is, it wasn't just about saying that we don't want the idea of you being able to make us redundant. so we're going to remove that. but that really thing suggest that is really thing to suggest that is really thing to suggest that will not have that the employer will not have that the employer will not have that to that. do you that ability to that. do you think the rmt president gordon it is this is an echo of one for him. why? why his interest? is it in his own ego really? and in doing all this because it's cruel. we've we've been locked down. you know, for two years, you know, christmas haven't been quite the same, have they ? and quite the same, have they? and

to take away, you know, some going to your work parties, going to your work parties, going christmas shopping, not being able to get and travel and the rest of it, i think it is totally disgusting and cruel and it is toxic timing when a lot of these people were supported through pandemic as well. obviously not the nurses worked very hard. but you know it just seems a little bit absurd now because actually we, the taxpayer will actually have to pay taxpayer will actually have to pay for that. so if we see this through to its natural conclusion means taxes conclusion, it means that taxes will up. so that's all of us, will go up. so that's all of us, including who get higher including those who get higher pay, including those who get higher pay, of those on higher pay, a lot of those on higher will then go into a higher tax bracket. so all doing is bracket. so all they're doing is robbing to pay and robbing peter to pay paul and they're have pay for they're going have to pay for it. it's not what is it. so it's not what is coordinated is coordinated this yeah, this is a deliberate attempt to bring down the government so that this war that's going well well that interior what they're interior that's what they're doing said keir doing because you said keir starmer couldn't if was starmer couldn't if he was playing shooting for playing piano shooting for england tonight against france he he missed at the corner he he missed it at the corner flag now he keeps missing flag now he just keeps missing so the unions are doing it

forward. i think she must stand on this because he won't go on the picket lines. will give us a say any time sense any time he's uncomfortable with it sooner it's making him because he's got a pressure on at moment a lot of pressure on at moment but when he goes to him over the strikes, what's your position? do support rmt support do you support rmt do support the won't say the health workers. he won't say you on bench the health workers. he won't say you sitting on the benc the health workers. he won't say you sittingtradeie benc the health workers. he won't say you sittingtrade unions have million to trade unions have given labour since given to the labour party since sir starmer became the sir keir starmer became the labour leader. that's why he won't say, because they pay the labour party's bills. well, listen, if you're watching, welcome. listening on welcome. voters are listening on the radio for your company. the radio. you for your company. great to have you on board. tell me thoughts you me your thoughts as ever. you can the can use the email gbviews@gbnews.uk or me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at cv news where long live on tv onune cv news where long live on tv online and on digital radio . online and on digital radio. nana away after the break. it's time our royal round up royal biographer levin will be live in the studio to give us the controversial harry and meghan documents we've down all of documents we've run down all of thatis documents we've run down all of that is on way after this .

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it's just come out to 53 minutes after 4:00. if you just join me. welcome on board this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. don't forget, you can also the gb news app and as ever there is always going on in the royal household and this week has definitely been no different . consort, camilla , . the queen consort, camilla, hosted her regular christmas party, seriously ill children and their parents , clarence and their parents, clarence house this week . and of house earlier this week. and of course, we'll be talking to harry and meghan. their new documentary , as we love to give documentary, as we love to give you rundown so i'm joined now you a rundown so i'm joined now by royal biographer angela levin. angela hello. hello. where do you want to start ? you where do you want to start? you want start? your blood is want to start? your blood is boiling let's to start let's call out to start that. call it out to start with that. yes. well, i bloody boiling because thought they would in the language that i thought they were disgraceful i checked very carefully that there was not one

word of gratitude throughout 3 hours or nothing . meghan would hours or nothing. meghan would be if she hadn't a prince and been looked after and encouraged by the royal , and yet she takes by the royal, and yet she takes that so much for granted that she couldn't even at that word in she wants to it all off absolutely crush it to pieces and i think we've got to have a big fight back to protect our royal family and our own kingdom. you it's just beyond really of harry when he actually shows a glimmer of being not pleased with her because most of it he was looking at her adoringly that's okay but when she did that phoney curtsy and then with the squeaky voice i'm so pleased to see your majesty. you know . and he looked you know. and he looked horrified. but didn't have the guts to say something about it,

even on air. he could have done it quite and said, you know , it quite and said, you know, leave my it's all sort of clenched his his jaw. so the question then he swallowed it yeah no and it showed actually how much he's under her spell and under her control that he actually dare say about that his grandmother who he loves so much that he flew over to see that she was being looked properly . she was being looked properly. none of that came through . he none of that came through. he just accepted it because . what just accepted it because. what meghan says meghan's always right. we mustn't criticise . so right. we mustn't criticise. so do you know what though? i also think though, that he is culpable too, because he is not doing himself any favours ehhen doing himself any favours either. whilst i know he's under a spell that the two of them together i think are quite a toxic combination and i. yes, i won't. oh i won't go back to her because i he should be because i know he should be doing a lot if he really doing a lot more if he really that was disrespectful, he should have put her in the place. i'm not excusing him. i'm

just i thought that just saying that i thought that was where he was the only time where he looked if he didn't approve, looked as if he didn't approve, but have the but he still didn't have the guts it. no, he's a guts to do it. no, he's a completely different man from the when i was the one i knew when i was writing his biography. there's almost can is almost nothing that you can is similar . and almost nothing that you can is similar. and i think in a way he's very frightened because meghan at once said that diana's inside and i think because she believed meghan said that because she because he believed his mother is still looking down on him, that if he didn't along with her, he might too. i think it's of an extraordinary feeling, but that to me that is what she's got the grip that if he feels that he would upset his mother, then he will stay with her and go with her. and it's tragedy . tragic. absolutely but tragedy. tragic. absolutely but he doesn't think it's tragic. he looks he's in the lap , love in looks he's in the lap, love in the best place ever . and he the best place ever. and he succeeds on this one together. i don't think they even see how

disrespect they are, because from my view, watching it felt like they believed that this was all down to her race and that's why people were treating our way and listen , if you blindfolded and listen, if you blindfolded me, i never saw what you looked like. and i heard how she was behaving. i would still come up with the same conclusion. it's got nothing do with the got nothing to do with the way she looks it hasn't got she looks now. it hasn't got anything with race. anything to do with the race. she looks actually. they use that if you disagree with them or, in at any or, criticise them in any at any level, then you are a racist which is not actually the correct explanation of what a racist is. so i'm not think she's included that in her brain that you can actually criticise or doubt them , say anything or doubt them, say anything about them because they jump on it. i think she's a very good sales point and this is how she captures so people following her because they sorry that she is suffering from racism but actually you to be one step aware and she isn't we're not at

all racist but we just don't like her or how she behaves . i like her or how she behaves. i feel sorry for multimillionaire privileged princess meghan fix angela , we need to move on. angela, we need to move on. let's get on to something else. camilla she's amazing, really, isn't she. i know she had a rocky road at the beginning. but she did prove herself, you know she did prove herself, you know she went through of that and she went through all of that and it on the day. was it was on the same day. was this. it was a shame because this. yes it was a shame because it got almost publicity. but it got almost no publicity. but it got almost no publicity. but it of her top and every it is one of her top and every year since 2006, she makes a party for who probably won't see the following year. they're all extremely ill and the parents come along and she does this party and she serves the food she , serves the drinks. she sits she, serves the drinks. she sits on the floor and chats to them and she does it as a father. christmas has come along and she gets animals to come along and to stroke them and reindeer and the kids just love it. and she

feels that's when belongs to her. it's tremendously good thing the families are so unhappy and but to come . to see unhappy and but to come. to see the queen and before that they duchess and have those things. and there's loads for to eat and they sausages of mashed potato and sometimes a name is done in mashed potato. it's a really brilliant thing and it's very happy and there's a good girl who has a big and a sword and all the children are allowed to try hat on, which they would always love to. and the sword is used to put each light and decoration on the christmas tree, a huge christmas tree , and tree, a huge christmas tree, and the children are there with their mouths open looking at this overshadowed it is completely overshadowed . i'm completely overshadowed. i'm pleased to talk about it because it happens every year apart from the covid year when it was done but it's a very , very kind,

but it's a very, very kind, thoughtful and warm thing to do and that's what we really want to see. i want to do exactly that's how we would like them to behave. not saying their story and behaving in a manner that is not really becoming. angela levin, thank you so much. as i care now this royal care to join me now this royal biographer, angela levin. right if you tuned welcome on if you just tuned in, welcome on board. more to come in the next hour. houn so it's just going to 5:00. we're live on tv online and on digital radio. this is gb news. over the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of these big topics, hitting headunes these big topics, hitting headlines right now. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . thank you nana. the headlines. thank you nana. the latest from the gb newsroom. breaking news this hour, the number of people killed in an explosion. the jersey capitals

of helier has risen to three. the blast happened a block of flats in the early hours of the morning and several people are reported as missing . earlier, reported as missing. earlier, jersey police chief officer smith told a news conference the fire service had been called to the area the previous night after residents reported the smell of gas. he warned the number of casualties could climb . we have a three storey building that that has completely collapsed . described completely collapsed. described from a demolition point of view as a pancake that has just dropped almost sort of straight down. it is considerable destruction. destruction and there are also to a nearby building as well. another another set a block of flats which is we need to sort of make safe for the fire service, need to make space. so it is it is it is a pretty devastating scene, i regret to say say . energy regret to say say. energy regulator ofgem . it's extremely regulator ofgem. it's extremely concerned. the vulnerable people in sheffield have been without

gas for a week. hundreds of customers were left without heating . a water main burst last heating. a water main burst last friday saturating the network. ofgem has described the situation as extremely made worse by the sudden cold snap distribution company. cadent says all homes and commercial properties will be automatically compensate it . meanwhile, compensate it. meanwhile, freezing temperatures been causing travel problems across the. manchester airport was forced to close both runways after snow affecting dozens of flights . the one has now been flights. the one has now been reopened . yellow warnings are in reopened. yellow warnings are in place across scotland, northern ireland wales, the south—west and south—east of england this weekend with expected to drop to as as minus ten degrees in some areas . rmt general secretary areas. rmt general secretary mick lynch has called for an urgent meeting with the prime minister is to try to resolve the long running dispute over pay the long running dispute over pay and conditions for rail

workers. union are due to stage 248 hour strikes next week following . months of industrial following. months of industrial action over the deadlocked rail . travel expert simon calder told gb news. most people by train have nothing to worry about train operators. the government everybody else is saying don't try and travel, please stay away, stay away. ignore there are i've surveyed all of this there's more trains running during strikes than they have during any of the previous national strikes which have been on since june . okay. so as on since june. okay. so as always, you're wanted to go on one of the main intercity lines . you live in one of the big cities. then there's going to be trains between about eight in the morning and six in the evening . the prime minister evening. the prime minister french president, are both getting jibes in early as england and, france prepare to play england and, france prepare to play each other in world cup quarter finals. emmanuel macron tweeted that he was looking

forward to the game and all she would would he wish the blues like if the team makes it through to the semis. the prime minister responded, hopefully i won't have to . asked if the won't have to. asked if the sentiment would be reciprocated . what millions of people expected to watch that game tonight kicks off in just under 2 hours time. gareth southgate says they're better prepared for success than four years ago. but this be the team's toughest test. so far the tournament . at test. so far the tournament. at home supporters dare to dream south—east london at the kirby estate in bermondsey, residents are cautiously optimistic . i are cautiously optimistic. i feel we're going to win. i think, as i said before, strong today. we're going to win two nil. i'm very confident after yesterday. i don't know what to think any more. some of some of the games actually the games that we're actually i mean, be a neutral them is mean, to be a neutral them is amazing. but to actually be a supporter i mean, got supporter i mean, if we've got a game like that tonight, i'm going to be all over the place. but we can if we can do what but if we can if we can do what we've been doing, yeah, i reckon we've been doing, yeah, i reckon we've chance and 200

we've got a chance and 200 migrants have been intercepted crossing the channel this morning. managed to morning. one group managed to land beach at near land on a beach at hoe near dover. land on a beach at hoe near dover . they've now been taken to dover. they've now been taken to the ftx centre kama are reportedly making the journey easier today. over 44,000 people have crossed the channel so far this year . have crossed the channel so far this year. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now it's back to nina nina . nina. allegra and this is gb news where live on tv online and on digital radio . i'm nana away and digital radio. i'm nana away and for the next hour, me and my panel will be on some of the big topics hitting the right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs . of it's mine. it's theirs. of course it's yours. we'll be debating , discussing, and at debating, discussing, and at times we disagree . but no times we will disagree. but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining today is broadcaster joining me today is broadcaster columnist lizzie cundy and also

editor at daily mail, andrew editor at the daily mail, andrew . still to come, this might difficult conversation . reggae difficult conversation. reggae musician matt hoy , now he was musician matt hoy, now he was part of the musician group ub40 . now that featured ali campbell astro. you'll be long live in the studio. matt refused to get the studio. matt refused to get the covid vaccine. medical complications , and he claims complications, and he claims that he was subsequently go from the band. he's now released a single called strong to inspire others who have gone through similar situations on the way as well. our great british debate this i'm is cold this hour. i'm asking is cold the right way or now the government's plan to build a new coal mine in cumbria worth government's plan to build a new coal mine in cumbria wort h £165 coal mine in cumbria worth £165 million, been met with million, has been met with widespread support widespread. those who support the suggest . the mine would the move suggest. the mine would provide employment and provide local employment and it's to be net zero in it's aiming to be net zero in its operations. but critics it would undermine the country's climate change targets. so i'm asking coal the right way forward. and later on, of course, the football is on tonight. so we've got a fever. football fever as it gripped the nation. we'll be speaking to

some of our journalists across the england preparing the uk, england are preparing face two big rivals france later this evening in the quarterfinals of world cup. quarterfinals of the world cup. can the semis guys ? can they reach the semis guys? are getting live reaction are we getting live reaction from email from qatar? email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb this week's conversation? it's just 7 minutes after 5:00. engush just 7 minutes after 5:00. english reggae musician matt hoy is part of the music group ub40 . do you remember them? featuring ali campbell, he suffered from an adverse reaction to the play during first time in the band. and i can tell you i've had a bad reaction to one time and it wasn't great. not also, has the attitude fibrillation which causes him to an irregular heartbeat . and during the heartbeat. and during the pandemic, matt refused get the covid pandemic, matt refused get the covm jab pandemic, matt refused get the covid jab due to his medical concerns hkt was subsequently dismissed . the band now dismissed. the band now following on from his ordeal, matt wrote the song strong to raise awareness about climate .

raise awareness about climate. and unity to push us through the dark guidance , understanding and dark guidance, understanding and to our paths not down ever will you comfort dance? not now , not you comfort dance? not now, not even you comfort dance? not now, not ever. will you us feel the band ? sorry now matt wishes to help others he's find themselves in a similar situation. his main focus now is to continue creating music as a solo artist and inspire others to stand up for medical and amenity. i'm now pleased to say . for medical and amenity. i'm now pleased to say. i'm joined in the studio by reggae artist matt, who i love . thank you. matt, who i love. thank you. thank you . i'm going to do yes, thank you. i'm going to do yes, of course. i'll give you the next one. you're the star of it. i've got a clip of me dancing. can i be the star to give you some of that? i'll send you the first. yeah. and can check it out as well. it's on instagram.

better than me though. if it's not about me, it's not about me. but you. so. so then but all about you. so. so then you a vocalist? yes yeah. you are a vocalist? yes yeah. ub40, has been going ub40, which has been going for years. weren't at the years. you weren't there at the beginning. no, no no, no, no. when did join band? how did when did join the band? how did that about? in that come about? i joined in 2010. what? basically what it was ali campbell left the was when ali campbell left the original of ub40. was when ali campbell left the original of ub40 . he original line—up of ub40. he went solo kind of around 2000 and end of 2010. i joined as a vocalist to be part of his band and was with him for 12 years just carrying on. we toured the world together and you know, it was a nice little blend. but were you a vocalist then there when you were joining? i'd done various vocals with different people, years, and that was people, the years, and that was always in vocalist, you always a job in vocalist, you know, been bands, my own know, i'd been in bands, my own bands, a songwriter. so bands, i was a songwriter. so yeah, of involved in yeah, i was kind of involved in the industry from from way , you the industry from from way, you know. was that your big know. so, so was that your big break? you said you're break? because you said you're dropping seen you dropping in. i've seen you before is a pretty huge band. it was break in sense for me was a break in the sense for me because from birmingham. so because i'm from birmingham. so anybody from birmingham

anybody who's from birmingham will i like will know that you be 40. i like beatles birmingham, you know. beatles of birmingham, you know. so to be part of that and also so to be a part of that and also be a part of something that you followed you when followed from, you know, when i was school was in school leaving school the last years, it was all home to girl and you know kingston time so a part of that and so to be a part of that and singing red wine every night singing red red wine every night was you so it was such a privilege you so it was such a privilege you so it was yeah you're saying was amazing yeah you're saying that you see thing is i used to see ub40 and i didn't really know the band members know any of the band members looked that song looked like yeah that one song red was like, oh god, that red but i was like, oh god, that song again. yeah. but as you get older you realise what classic gene i mean that gene that is. i mean that a classic, so. oh it's amazing, really amazing. i mean the really is amazing. i mean the thing i've been to thing is i taught, i've been to places i didn't even know places that i didn't even know existed. what's the existed. you singing what's the weirdest place you've that you. well done papua guinea. well we've done papua guinea. we did guinea. we did the did papua new guinea. we did the solomon . did you guys go solomon islands. did you guys go out much and see the things whether you were was whether you were there was it just depends we had just depends on whether we had a few off or not but just few days off or not but just experience those different cultures was something special but red wine that the main song as soon as you went stage that's

what i think people would have been happy just on an hour and a half of singing red red wine because that's all i want to really say. yeah, it was a privilege and, your time in the band, if you had to describe it a nutshell, what would you say it was like? it's kind of split then the middle east was a wonderful thing because it was an experience. nobody could ever have. you know, me touring , the have. you know, me touring, the world going to places, like i said, that i've never dreamed of going hawaii and japan and new zealand, all these beautiful places . but on the other hand places. but on the other hand was very cheap in a sense . it was very cheap in a sense. it was very cheap in a sense. it was very cheap in a sense. it was very hong together, very loosely. and wasn't really the band wasn't really looked after in a sense, in that way. i really didn't get stay in five star hotels. we stayed in hotels. i think what it stemmed originally we ali, when we first left the original line—up it was more that he he couldn't really of soul like a mecca bingo you

know he was on his own he was struggle and the musicians that had in the band, they're world class musicians and they played with world artists and we kind of stuck by and we he said, you know, i'm going to get back on my feet as soon as i'm back on my feet as soon as i'm back on my feet. you i'll look after you. that never really happen and unfortunately , from going and unfortunately, from going from that point in two thousand and seven open. so more or less when i left before the pandemic in 2009, team , we were doing the in 2009, team, we were doing the o2 arena really on the same kind of money that we were doing, crappy little fuses . and yeah, crappy little fuses. and yeah, i'm fortunately the people doing these things got paid a fortune. so in the end , talk to me about so in the end, talk to me about leaving band and why that all came about. because i mean , came about. because i mean, we've alluded to it that it was something to do with the vaccine, but what was the situation? describe happened? it came about . situation? describe happened? it came about. in 2021 march. we would have been i'd already had

a flu vaccine which i had a reaction to for me going through the pandemic. so you had to be actually i had to jump had a reaction which i think for brought on an autoimmune condition. know, it was condition. and, you know, it was literally within three or four weeks thing. yeah then, weeks of this thing. yeah then, you since then i've you know, ever since then i've never i actually never been the same. i actually have to make sure things have to make sure now things like have to have them like covid, i have to have them otherwise, kind can otherwise, but what kind of can you say what the know. absolutely. i had the flu basically, i have a condition called which my called atrial, which means my heartbeat a procedure heartbeat is i had a procedure called a cardioversion shocks your heart back into rhythm . the your heart back into rhythm. the consultant at time said to me, i'll advise you that you get flu jab because you're considered as being vulnerable after having such a procedure. so listen to doctor. absolutely fine. i had the flu jab within 36 hours i had a huge growth in my lymph glands on my armpit. had a huge growth in my lymph glands on my armpit . yeah and as glands on my armpit. yeah and as it started to decrease and go down, it threw my heart back at rhythm. it was a quite a severe reaction to this vaccination .

reaction to this vaccination. did they say it was definitely a reaction to that? yes yeah, yeah . so i knew from that point on was saw has been the same kind of virus i was the kind the vaccine was not for me . so at vaccine was not for me. so at that point with you before he came across that we were it looked like we were going to go ahead and start doing log work again. and the management was saying, look, you know, the prospect is there, we're going to put things in place. one thing will stipulate, though, thing we will stipulate, though, is that each band member has got to the vaccine so we can to have the vaccine so we can continue to work work . continue to work work. unfortunately, obviously i couldn't have it, so i kind of put that across the band saying, look, you know, this is i've had these side effects. i knew the condition with the fibrillation . anyway, a couple of months went forward and ijust . anyway, a couple of months went forward and i just said, went on forward and i just said, look, unless i have vaccine, am i still permitted to be part this unit and perform? and i said no, you need to have the covid vaccine. so they actually said that you in your face. no, no, they know that. not

no, they did not know that. not at i wish they it on at all. i wish they had it on that. would have been wonderful. it a text it was all done by a text message. oh really? what you have is written that i'm saying? no have this vaccine. no unless you have this vaccine. yeah my other yeah was actually my other half's getting in half's idea. it's a getting in writing so you need to speak to these people and get it in writing. i have all that. writing. so i have all that. yeah, actually they've yeah, it's actually they've actually they're actually said obviously they're not defend themselves. not here to defend themselves. no, of course not. but no, no, no, of course not. but he's in writing so is he's in writing so this is specifically because that, specifically so because of that, you to go on tour you were not able to go on tour with the band. no. no. and the first show they had back was in leeds at millennium. millennium square. sorry and i had cancel anyhow because two of the band members tested positive covid and they'd all been . so i could and they'd all been. so i could have gone through a procedure and been seriously damaged. so the first show to be cancelled maybe, but maybe not. but the other thing is actually if they were going abroad to other countries, those countries, lots of those countries, lots of those countries their own countries had their own vaccination well. so vaccination deals as well. so some got an some countries you've got an absolute there could absolute that there could have been could have been procedures they could have gone say, well, we will gone down to say, well, we will

do the pcr route. we'll do you know there was nothing. was know there was nothing. it was just no that's it. just like dead. no that's it. you're out, you know so you're out, you know that. so that so talk to me that was that. so talk to me about how that how that's been for and what the for you and what the implications had for eight seats had implications me had a lot of implications on me i've health i've suffered from mental health since my mother passed away in 1999. i've had depression . the 1999. i've had depression. the thing with touring when you it all you kind of go into own little lockdown anyway that's you do because you've been touring for so long travelling you just want to go home. but when the pandemic hit we did when the pandemic hit and we did the thing, it kind of the lockdown thing, it kind of went bit longer than you went on a bit longer than you were to it. the mental were used to it. and the mental health side things did kick in it was you know and everybody's who we it was you know and everybody's wh

everything. for me, you know, we can i didn't know where to go. i didn't know what do myself, you know, because that was the goal. get back to work. what about in terms of support and is there anybody who's sort of fighting your god. your corner? there's oh, god. and you've mentioned that that the wonderful england the wonderful workers of england union, supported union, they've supported endlessly through whole of this . do they call their reunion their base up north they're in a manchester and they've basically looked after they've kind of stood by me in the sense where there's been so many people that have, you know, because of the was mandates, especially in the health sector that were into having the vaccine . and you having the vaccine. and you know, unfortunately, this thousands , thousands of people thousands, thousands of people that are injured from , this that are injured from, this vaccine that and they don't know where to go. they don't who to talk to. and these people have lost their livelihoods they've lost their livelihoods they've lost their livelihoods they've lost their homes. they've got no money. and don't know who money. and they don't know who to to. what to do to talk to. so what trying to do is my situation, you be 40 is with my situation, you be 40 is with my situation, you be 40 is help that mean all their

stuff. the workers of england is posted my media is it's on posted over my media is it's on my website it's easy to join and i can help you know there is somebody out there to talk to, you know, obviously in a way so some say they weren't forced, but if they didn't do it then they couldn't do something else because have because obviously you do have your to weigh. your own choices to weigh. absolutely. i mean, that's absolutely. yeah. i mean, that's the key. i think it's choice more anything. choice would more anything. the choice would mean couldn't the mean that you couldn't do the job if you the job you were doing. if you the choice not doing yeah choice of not doing it. yeah that that's know that that that that's you know that that is tough. it's tough. so too. now where are you? you're in the situation got situation where you've got somebody corner somebody writing your corner now. don't know whether somebody writing your corner nowcan don't know whether somebody writing your corner now can talk don't know whether somebody writing your corner nowcan talk aboutknow whether somebody writing your corner nowcan talk about where/hether somebody writing your corner nowcan talk about where you1er somebody writing your corner nowcan talk about where you are you can talk about where you are with it and you know what your next step that well obviously we to proceedings to take legal proceedings obviously towards you before featuring and use this as precedent for other people that have been in that situation especially now i mean i kind of tend to see money in the health care sector that people are forced into doing and not so much force. i think give know. so that was almost like an

ultimatum and some ultimatum i suppose and some people into you know people felt pushed into you know so they're on their own. and like i've said, you know, they've lost a lot , their homes, they've lost a lot, their homes, their livelihoods. i mean, and their livelihoods. i mean, and the health of these the mental health of these people as well, you know, they don't know it. it's on and people are struggling. so if i can be that person to help or guide and you know pushing through then so be it. you know i really want to help you're doing that what if you if want to sort of you know in touch are you doing anything for people to find more about what is the find out more about what is the track. that the minute that track. that said the minute that you played time. yeah yeah strong me was a self—help strong for me it was a self—help situation that it was you know, when you don't know where to turn and you feel that you need to empower and empower others to not be bullied, to not be pushed around to do the right thing that's. what it was to me, get in there . but yeah, like i said, in there. but yeah, like i said, with the workers, the england union of all their links all over my social media my way official so if we can help

anybody the same position, then please get into what people will. look, i know your crowdfunding as well. oh, god, we're doing the crowdfunding thing. this is the thing. this is. this is the beginning . if we can get push beginning of. if we can get push this through, we can get the support it definitely set support it will definitely set a precedent. well, listen, i say good talk to you'll good to talk to you. you'll strong. out now ? it is strong. is it out now? it is that nice all over youtube . that nice all over youtube. yeah. and just doing well done like he's doing really, really well. surprised he would well. i'm so surprised he would have better if you were have done better if you were dancing well you know i dancing on. yeah well you know i wish you tell me beforehand but you is that so you're you know is that so you're saying there's video out saying there's a video out there. you can have clip there. yeah you can have my clip and. have to put and. i'll say i'll have to put and. i'll say i'll have to put an extra 30 seconds on. and when i just my really because it's a pleasure. thank you nana . thank pleasure. thank you nana. thank you. he was a man member of ub40. now he's doing his own . ub40. now he's doing his own. it's called strong. you need to checkit it's called strong. you need to check it out. he's a reggae artist. must say, artist. well, i must say, although some cases, people although in some cases, people do adverse reactions , do have adverse reactions, vaccines, proven to be vaccines, they are proven to be safe and effective for the vast majority people. we also majority of people. we also requested a response from. you we heard back. however we haven't heard back. however ub40 said that

ub40 have previously said that whilst accept that whilst we accept that everybody's freedom choice everybody's freedom of choice and regarding taking and decision regarding taking the vaccine on the you and many other countries of quarantine penods other countries of quarantine periods and legislation in place that makes touring and performing incredibly difficult for us to be able to plan for obligated dates. the is backing everybody into a corner and nobody should be forced to it. but this was not a decision to leave. we would like to wish back all best in his future endeavours, and thank you once again this is gb news on the again. this is a gb news on the it is time for the great british debate this hour asking is cole the right way forward now? opposition after opposition is growing after levelling secretary michael levelling up secretary michael gove to a coal mine gove plans to build a coal mine in cumbria. critics argue it will threaten the country's climate change , whilst others climate change, whilst others say that it's beneficial for the economy. so is coal actually the right forward? we'll be discussing that after this . it should be saying the

government is can you sack at least 400 thousands of these freeloaders , get rid of them, freeloaders, get rid of them, and there'll be a lot go money for nurses and new hospitals that we need. but then not saying that just saying give me,

good afternoon. it's approaching 24 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. all of the people's channel on nana akua. now it's time for our great british debate this hour. i'm asking is coal the right way forward? now protesters have taken to the streets to demonstrate against the decision to approve plans for a new coal mine in cumbria. now it's worth for a new coal mine in cumbria. now it's wort h £165 million and now it's worth £165 million and this will actually be the first in the country for more than three decades. community secretary michael gove gave the project go as he project the go ahead as he claims that it would have new claims that it would have a new effect on climate change the effect on climate change on the whole. he that whole. and he also said that green technologies won't be able to replace fossil fuels in production many years production still for many years to come , would otherwise to to come, would otherwise need to be imported proponents the be imported. proponents of the move argue the mine would provide local employment aid with the wider community and economy all whilst aiming to be

net zero in its operations . but net zero in its operations. but critics have hit out at the government stating that it would threaten the climate change targets. dubbing retrograde retrograde decision. it's been estimated that over the next 50 years the mine would release hundred and 20 million tonnes of c02 hundred and 20 million tonnes of co2 in. hundred and 20 million tonnes of c02 in. a hundred and 20 million tonnes of co2 in. a roughly equates to what the uk as a whole emits each year . so what the uk as a whole emits each year. so what do you think? the great british this hour i'm asking, is coal the right way forward? i'm joined now by director of coal 26. lois perry. lois thank you so much for joining me. you're going to be in the studio. oh, she's out there. so what do you think? i know i'm sorry. there. so what do you think? i know i'm sorry . yeah, i couldn't know i'm sorry. yeah, i couldn't i couldn't get in, but here i am. well, next. at least at least that at. least you say those carbon emissions. now i'm going to ask you then. so do you support you support the opening of the first coal mine for 30 years? yes finally. you know , years? yes finally. you know, clever, expedient and a fantastic from the government. we need we need steel. steel

what makes you know, we build things without steel . we can't things without steel. we can't have any infrastructure . we have any infrastructure. we can't make things we can't make nuclear reactors. we do anything without steel . and coking coal without steel. and coking coal is a key process in terms making do. in fact, it's an ingredient in, the steel process. so fantastic that we're actually doing this and we're not importing it some. even if you believe that co2 is an issue which . i don't and my which. i don't and my organisation doesn't . it's organisation doesn't. it's reducing emission at extraordinarily because we're not importing. extraordinarily because we're not importing . it's fantastic . not importing. it's fantastic. now do you think it's a bit ironic ? everyone criticised ironic? everyone criticised thatcher for closing coal and steel mines and is actually the left who are opposing the opening of a coal mine which actually set to create hundreds ofjobs. actually set to create hundreds of jobs . it's unbelievable the of jobs. it's unbelievable the know the same people with the same you know you imagine ideologies as they are the

extreme left are opposing the mines closed down in the eighties now saying that we shouldn't have them open . it's shouldn't have them open. it's absolutely extraordinary where you've got the labour opposing jobs being created for working class people . i mean, you really class people. i mean, you really couldn't make it up. so it's absolute insanity . and as i say, absolute insanity. and as i say, even if you believe that co2 is a problem , this is actually a problem, this is actually reducing emissions. a problem, this is actually reducing emissions . we're not reducing emissions. we're not importing which would cause more c02 importing which would cause more co2 emissions is absolutely fantastic. but what i think is why should we have one industry being supported why aren't we fracking? and cheap and abundant energy for everybody? hospitality of the industries, you know . i hospitality of the industries, you know. i think this is wonderful , fantastic forward wonderful, fantastic forward step. well well, that's the that is the question. stay right there. and we're also joined by just spokesperson james. james, thank you very much for joining me. james, i want to ask you. what do you make of the independent report's findings that the neutral impact that

this could have? so this could be a neutral impact in terms of net zero targets solely . this is net zero targets solely. this is a good thing if we are opening a coal mine in this way. none of that. that's a complete lie. that that report actually about the action emissions. it's actually talking about the emissions would come about from burning coal . this decision burning coal. this decision shows that this government is entirely stuck in the past. they have no vision of the. they have no answer to the cost living climate crises affecting this country . this decision country. this decision is a betrayal of child in this country. and shows everyone country. and it shows everyone that we're led by a criminally inept government must be inept government who must be immediately removed from power before any more damage. before they do any more damage. but can i just ask then, how do you propose we make steel then if we use coal i mean, if we don't use coal i mean, this is the thing that we need. another one is also we'll be importing. therefore there will be emissions in to be carbon emissions in order to get stuff to and it'll only get the stuff to and it'll only be well where else? to your first point, none . actually. the first point, none. actually. the world is moving towards production for steel . in fact,

production for steel. in fact, the former director for british steel is advocating for us moving towards hydrogen . and moving towards hydrogen. and also with regards to your point about import emissions , actually about import emissions, actually 83% of the coal extracted from this will be exported. it's no good our steel production , it's good our steel production, it's going to be sold in the international markets and therefore it's only going be for therefore it's only going be for the purpose of enriching millionaires and billionaires that this government for they don't care about british people, they don't care about energy or security. it's a lie . well, i security. it's a lie. well, i think the operative word there is , you said moving towards is, you said moving towards hydrogen production. we're there that while we said this would be an interim let me bring an interim passage, let me bring lois from call lois perry back in on from call 26, because want to pose the 26, because i want to pose the same question. lois, could you respond to james for me, please 7 respond to james for me, please ? no, i mean, what he's talking with hydrogen is absolute nonsense . i was talking to the nonsense. i was talking to the claim physicist an engineer that's been on your program many times, brian, about arago about this, and he said that actually

the coking coal and, the coal itself is actually ingredient in steel and it's not just been used to create the energy to, make the steel. it's a component of the steel itself . so saying of the steel itself. so saying that can be a hydrogen and other things can be used is actually wrong. but it's so funny. i'm talking about millionaires and billionaires when mega—rich billionaires when mega—rich billionaires that are just. guilfoyle who have massive oil interests in the us. and the rays and the reason why they want to just stop oil the new contract is to keep the price of their own higher. contract is to keep the price of their own higher . well, what their own higher. well, what change? well, james, i need you to respond to that because, you know, we do know that just oil does have some very big backers who are extremely wealthy. yeah i believe i'll leave that . so, i believe i'll leave that. so, lois, i'll get actually inherit a lot of headlines from

billionaires other so yeah i mean like you know we'll take money from anyone if they want sort of undo the damages of what. well i was able to stop my . oh that's fantastic. did you say that again. that's brilliant . and with regards to what you said before, actually does actually diminish or how can you that we're speaking about? so actually what will happen is that that coal is probably just going be ended ended up burning for energy production elsewhere in the world it's not going to benefit it was for energy security . now, lois, you and security. now, lois, you and i would probably on a great deal of things. we need energy independence. we need energy security the best of doing that is to invest in green green jobs, green renewables . in fact, jobs, green renewables. in fact, if we invested in cumbria, we could 4500 jobs as could have 4500 green jobs as opposed the 500 that have not already come, the current 500 jobs that will finish that

lowest, lowest, lowest . him lowest, lowest, lowest. him finish. let him finish. so right . the transition to renewables would give us the energy security that we need on offshore wind is nine times cheapen offshore wind is nine times cheaper. all right. than than fossil fuels this time , right? fossil fuels this time, right? imagine cutting your energy costs by nine times. what reason? that the want us to do this is because it would result in a decentralised energy grid. okay. so on the energy bill. okay. so on the energy bill. okay okay. so you think. okay, well let's let the last word to respond on that . okay anything respond on that. okay anything can be nine times cheaper if it subsidise by the government to the tune of nine times cheaper. and it really isn't cheap and needs. and it really isn't cheap and needs . we need lowest finish needs. we need lowest finish times to give you a chance when i'm actually really delighted that just don't put this admitted that it's funded by oil companies. thank you. well i think that's it. thank you very much . jane jencks get your. and

much. jane jencks get your. and she spent her. i mean, you can google as she spent the last decades investing environmental organising it's not secret that's fine . well, no, it that's fine. well, no, it certainly is. and james, listen , we're running out of time, but thank so much for that. james, thank so much for that. james, thank much for talking. thank you so much for talking. me lois perry, good me and lois perry, really good to you as well. director to talk to you as well. director of cop26. very good to talk sense, is gb news sense, right? this is gb news but tv online and on but live on tv online and on digital radio on we'll digital radio on the way we'll that great british debate hour i'm asking is coal the right forward the thoughts of forward but in the thoughts of my panel of broadcaster and columnist cundy and also columnist lizzie cundy and also consultant editor daily consultant editor at the daily mail andrew pearce. but first, let's your latest headlines . the let's get your latest headlines. the sanchez in the gb newsroom. at least three people have been killed in an explosion on the island of jersey. the blast happened at a block of flats in the early hours of the morning . the early hours of the morning. st helier. fair the of st helier. it's fair the of casualties could still climb with around a dozen people

thought to be missing. chief fire paul brown says the search and operation could take days is and operation could take days is a total collapse . and so the a total collapse. and so the primary challenge is that one of these dangerous to operate in and around the area but secondly anything that we do or don't do in the wrong way might then jeopardise the chances of survival for somebody who might yet be able to be , you know, yet be able to be, you know, sort of rescued. so we have to do everything in a slow methodical way and have to make sure that all of the right equipment, the right expertise is in place in order to do that . regulator ofgem says extremely concerned that vulnerable people in sheffield have been without gas for a week. hundreds of customers lost their heating after a water main burst last friday, saturating the gas network. ofgem has described the situation as extremely difficult, made worse by the sudden cold snap . meanwhile, sudden cold snap. meanwhile, freezing temperatures have been

causing travel problems across the country. manchester was forced to temporarily close both runways after heavy snow affecting thousands of flights . affecting thousands of flights. yellow warnings are in place across . scotland, northern across. scotland, northern ireland. wales the south—west and south—east of england this weekend with temperatures expected to drop to as low as minus ten degrees in some isolated areas , excitement is isolated areas, excitement is building with world cup quarter final between england and defending champions france due to kick off in around an hour and a half time. the winner will face morocco, which has become the african nation to make through to the semis after beating portugal one nil. tv onune beating portugal one nil. tv online and plus radio. this. and at vice people what was happening and managed to conceal

a loss that was growing and growing about a three and a half year period so essentially there was this issue the business within the bank that were these massive losses that they were not readily , readily available . not readily, readily available. the senior management, it wasn't clear how bad things were . were clear how bad things were. were you doing this for personal gain ? no, absolutely . i mean, i ? no, absolutely. i mean, i think through throughout the, you know, near three year period that i was in singapore, i was just trying to get the losses

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gb news it is fast approaching 40 minutes after 5:00. welcome on board. this is news on tv online and. on digital radio. i'm nana. acquit. now it's time for our great british debate this hour. i'm asking is cole the right way forward . opposition is growing. forward. opposition is growing. that's following the government's decision to approve plans for a coal mine in cumbria worth 165 million. now will be the first in the country for more than 30 years. communities secretary . michael gove gave the secretary. michael gove gave the product the go ahead as he claimed that it would have a new effect on climate change , on effect on climate change, on a hole, whatever that means . and hole, whatever that means. and those who support the move argue mine would create jobs and benefit the wider economy. but critics hit out at the government stating that it would threaten the country's climate change targets, dubbing it a retrograde decision . so for the retrograde decision. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking is coal the right way forward? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by

andrew pearce and lizzie cundy. lizzie is coal the right way forward? no, not andy cole or michael , whether it's forward? no, not andy cole or michael, whether it's all going to yet. yes yes. at last. gove, you've done something i agree with. yes, indeed look, we've got to be energy independent and look what's happened this year with the war. ukraine and else. and we need to be independent . and we need to be independent. and we need to be independent. and i can't bear this ray for net zero because it's ridiculous. it's not going to make any any sense for us. we're only 1% carbon emissions. we know we can't even get china to 27 who are the hugest you know ones with us in the thirties i think now and india and usa it's just it's just pointless. well, that's obviously because of exactly that. the coal that we look for any country of the three strategic resources we is defence, food and energy . and defence, food and energy. and this is such a good thing and

this is such a good thing and this is such a good thing and this is what we need to do. and the first order of any government is look after own people. and that's what we're doing while import other doing while import from other countries. well you heard what the of world, jason, about the rest of world, jason, about it. anyone. yes, it. take money from anyone. yes, i he landed himself in. it i did. he landed himself in. it has it? i think the world has spoken to them in the future. do you. because that's the gift going to keep gifts and the going to keep them gifts and the woman debating with the most lavish right before them. i think it's great irony about this. and i think lois, the point that it was your point, the labour party, which about mrs. and the miners mrs. thatcher and the miners strike in the 1980s, now opposing the opening of this coal mine, whether it should be pointed thatcher pointed out, mrs. thatcher closed fewer coal than closed, fewer coal mines than harold wilson's labour government. they don't like it when statistic spoke when that statistic spoke to that. but an absolute that. but that's an absolute fact. we we've got to get fact. but we we've got to get energy wherever we can. i think not only get this coal mine and running great, let's get back into the north sea. there's lots of still there and potential of oil still there and potential for about buy a load for fracking about to buy a load of from the fracked of liquefied from the fracked from fracking from united states which over on a

which comes over on a ship putting endless carbon emissions into the universe we should get on with it here that was what truss was going to but she's truss was going to do but she's put a stop to that and that's not objected to it's not because he objected to it's because it would in because often it would be in conservative marginal seats and he's the he's very worried about the general but i think general election. but i think this a really it's this is a really decision. it's taken months to get there now get on and start digging. but what the argument of what about the argument that of we going zero. this we are going to net zero. this won't help towards zero if won't help towards net zero if all emissions that , all this all the emissions that, all this coal out. mean, you coal will give out. i mean, you know, you remember that smog days. well you don't none of us are then maybe you are alive then maybe maybe you don't. you say, oh, i wish , but don't. you say, oh, i wish, but you know, we've to think about it. what about the. we'd to import a global we can't even get china to 20 well the import if we'd have to import coal which would come to britain on a some form of vessel which would be pumping stuff into the atmosphere. so that's why it's carbon neutral. we have a great job sources that are going to

create jobs. we'll have we we've got we've got we've got the natural resources and we've we've made stupid in we've made stupid mistakes in the past. how a long term decisions been awful like giving away the reserves 2017. still our resources to belgium netherlands you know come on this is the right move and i'm sorry it's not going to make a difference we haven't had an energy policy in this country for 30, 40 is perhaps and i'm beginning to well what about do you think it will have a positive effect on the prices of energy you think now if energy do you think that now if we do that it will bring the pnces we do that it will bring the prices down? do you actually prices down? and do you actually think will start even think that will start to even open i think open more coal mines? i think i think it will. i think it's potential and think it will be potential and i think it will be welcomed. people feel welcomed. i think people feel welcomed. i think people feel welcome because of the jobs will create. exactly. and we must not rely longer on the rely any longer on the bloodstained despots. bloodstained just despots. vladimir putin. exactly we cannot is a warning. cannot be this is a warning. we can't held ransom by anyone can't be held ransom by anyone or countries. need be or other countries. we need be energy but also for energy independent, but also for keir starmer oh my god, so hypocritical it just i cannot hypocritical. it just i cannot believe this man that you're now

it is like gives the advice on everything responsible for nothing . you know, that's the nothing. you know, that's the price of opposition . you don't price of opposition. you don't have to say anything, but this show nothing without you. and show is nothing without you. and your welcome, your view says, welcome, our great opportunity great voice is your opportunity to the show. tell me what to be on the show. tell me what you about the you really think about the topics discussing today got topics when discussing today got four of you oh go oh start with dr. ashley sessions she's there in milton keynes. you've got about seconds. i have to tell about 30 seconds. i have to tell you that otherwise called session evening then good session and evening then good evening thank you for the you be foxy interview. that was amazing but . getting back to the coal but. getting back to the coal story . yes, we do need coal nana story. yes, we do need coal nana nana of coal provide . 69% of the nana of coal provide. 69% of the electricity that need together with gas and, wind. i do understand that coal people are concerned about the here pollution and co2 emissions. but it is a cheaper form of energy andifs it is a cheaper form of energy and it's going to as you heard, it's going to provide a lot of jobs. so yes . it's going to provide a lot of jobs. so yes. is the way forward. i think it's way

forward. i think it's way forward. thank you, sir. and alan mcmillan, he's there in grimsby. alan do you say you're britons? you've seen the buy some that stuff . good some of that stuff. good afternoon. now on your i think it's absolutely news not a long overdue there's a lot of complaining about. we'll be exporting a lot of it. well that's absolutely brilliant because we'll be putting money into the echr. we'll creating some jobs . and i think that that some jobs. and i think that that becomes great to see which mines could be opened . it's a good, could be opened. it's a good, cheap source energy. i come by in the 40 odd years since they closed the coal mines that they can't produce clean coal. there must . beware of scrubbing the must. beware of scrubbing the emissions. so yeah, absolutely. cracking i hope there's more of them. get fracking . well, maybe them. get fracking. well, maybe that's the way forward. working out how you can make coal clean jonathan jones is there cornwall from ferguson to jonathan not now we've got to kick the can so

this always . okay you got some this always. okay you got some tea and your wi fi it sounds like drowning. we can't hear you, jonathan . track and it's a you, jonathan. track and it's a national security thing as well. nona we've got to keep tattoos on and no doubt about it, i think gove has got this right and we should do more still. look at, the renewables. but there's 100% right that we should be self—sufficient in energy and get that coal dug up as soon as we can before that nutters stop it being dug up. i think. right. well lovely well, you know, so far so good . you know, so far so good. everyone supporting it. let's a duty for in bedfordshire julie i it yeah and i'm in total agreement as well. i think it's agreement as well. i think it's a brilliant idea has really got this one right and i absolutely agree with what lizzie just said as well will make us an as well it will make us an independent source of energy as well it will make us an indepeisient source of energy as well it will make us an indepeis ant source of energy as well it will make us an indepeis an ireland of energy as well it will make us an indepeis an ireland we energy as well it will make us an indepeis an ireland we really which is an ireland we really should be. i'm 100% behind this wonderful that's a great as voices thank you so stephanie in milton added group milton keynes added in group jonathan cornwall and juliet

jonathan in cornwall and juliet in bedfordshire very in bedfordshire thank you very much. voice . much. great british voice. fabulous you. right. fabulous to hear you. right. let's our attention now to let's turn our attention now to the cup . morocco have been the world cup. morocco have been defeated. defeated defeated. they've defeated portugal, in their portugal, sorry, in their quarterfinal one nil this afternoon. england afternoon. it means england could be facing the moroccan side in the semi—final. that is, of course if the three lions of course, if the three lions can win against this evening. what do you think fans and qatar as well as up and down this country are gearing up for historic match . let's speak to historic match. let's speak to you to come back . who's there in you to come back. who's there in fanzone in wapping, theo. and also else. is there somebody else? french is that . oh, we else? french is that. oh, we don't know anything . sorry. don't know anything. sorry. there's another clip of somebody actually to you in an english chat at the what was going on there. talk to me . yeah, well, there. talk to me. yeah, well, good afternoon , slash. good good afternoon, slash. good evening. is strangers and they're having a world cup game in the dark in the middle of december. but we are here today and england have got this far and england have got this far and everyone's to be cheering them on tonight. here in east london, there's plenty of people

who are starting to arrive already. going to already. this place are going to be out. the game is be packed out. the game is kicking at 7 pm. and i'm kind of joined by the venue manager. manager you so much manager harry, thank you so much for time. so how have you for your time. so how have you been tonight? been preparing for tonight? well, a bit of a mad well, so it's a bit of a mad one, really. i mean, obviously christmas in swing world christmas in full swing world cup ever tucked cup sporting, i've ever tucked away a time of year for us so we kind to do both. but kind of had to do both. but we've the whole competition we've had the whole competition now to up to a big moment now to wind up to a big moment like tonight, playing like tonight, england playing france in france on saturday night in december. once a lifetime, december. it's once a lifetime, so to be a busy one. so it's going to be a busy one. isuppose so it's going to be a busy one. i suppose you and your team have know, lots of games in the know, seen lots of games in the last did you think last few weeks. did you think we'd this far? had an we'd get this far? i had an inkung we'd get this far? i had an inkling we. an inkling. so inkling we. had an inkling. so last cup, obviously last world cup, obviously semi—final euros the semi—final no euros got to the final. so i knew gareth would do well, i was hoping for well, but yeah, i was hoping for a easier game in the a slightly easier game in the quarter finals, but we'll see how we go. well, it's certainly not easy france not going to be easy france tonight, thank so for tonight, thank you so much for your time there's people your time there's lots people are here this are going to be here this evening we'll be giving you evening and we'll be giving you the live action here for fans as well over the few hours.

well over the next few hours. well, very much. the first well, thank very much. the first time as well, let's time we spoke and as well, let's get a paul hawkins. there get a paul hawkins. he's there in i've got some qatar. in qatar. i've got some qatar. sorry, how's it going? sorry, paul, how's it going? yeah, good. yes it's taken just a while to get just about to go into an england fan party, the intercontinental hotel, taking well to here because the well to get here because the traffic is unbelievable tens thousands of moroccan fans have moved onto the they're driving around honking their horns waving flags people are hanging out of sun because it's a huge moment morocco winning a portugal earlier one nil el—masri with that winning goal the first african country to qualify for the world cup semi—finals this arab country reach the world cup semi—finals and they have been flying the flag arab world. it's flag for the arab world. it's become like a focal for everyone in qatar and middle east. so in qatar and the middle east. so huge moment for morocco for huge moment for morocco and for africa arab football africa and for arab football that reaching the world cup semi—finals whether it's semi—finals yet whether it's going to be england or france we don't the favourites off don't know the favourites off france course you'd have france of course but you'd have to england have tools in to say england have the tools in their armoury to really france

work for that and we've got the starting up has just come through england until change from the team that played senegalin from the team that played senegal in the game it's senegal in the last game it's a it's all to play for really and it's all to play for really and it kicks off in just around about just over an hour's time wonderful. well we'll be watching from the pub at the christmas party. listen, you have a nice time, paul. thank you so that's paul hawkins live in, qatar. wonderful, wonderful. of course the football matches on but it's time for on later on. but it's time for our quickfire quiz. it's the part show where i test my part of the show where i test my panel on some of this, some of the stories hitting the headlines. joined by headlines. i'm joined by broadcaster lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. buzzer cundy. lizzie, press your buzzer , also consultant editor at the daily mail. andrew, first pressure buzzer . okay matt hoy pressure buzzer. okay matt hoy excuse 40 with his own thing strong pressure bells are very nice and the best really embarrassing got the biggest one i think one was the one we didn't want somebody nicked it here. now remember listen this

real matt, you've obviously not done this before. do not press your pulse before finished the your pulse before i finished the question. you be question. otherwise you be ejected seat and. ejected from your seat and. disqualified straight right. disqualified straight on right. let's begin. all right, we go. please along at home. question one potter 50 p coin has one a harry potter 50 p coin has been launched and it's the last to include a of our late queen. but what image can you see on the other side? is it a broomstick b ahead wig, harry potter owl or the hogwarts express . oh, that was matt. matt express. oh, that was matt. matt hogwarts express. what's express any any any other takers. i was to go for the owl. dl now is actually see the hogwarts . well actually see the hogwarts. well well done that was again. oh listen good good. these two got nothing last time. that's the royal mint. that's the point is part of a collection that celebrates 25 years after the harry potter series first published, harry potter and the philosopher's was j.k. rowling's first ever novel did any of you into harry potter ? anyway, i into harry potter? anyway, i read all about, you know, all the films. yeah, yeah. i loved all that. the paparazzi. what about son was into the about you? my son was into the film some . what mean? the

film some. what do you mean? the paparazzi that were you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse zi that were you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that that were you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that the that were you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that the for: were you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that the for there you? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that the for the up.ou? film some. what do you mean? the papuse that the for the up. well we use that the for the up. well rob's not just disingenuous at all. right question to the uk's longest serving santa has no plans give up his job but for how long he been handing out hits to the great british public each christmas places dealt witness press reports before you speak but 40 years is 5055. okay, let's see the answer is . okay, let's see the answer is. 60 oh was very good sir i've got a question right. yeah we hung up proudly of frightened children's christmases since 1962 and has never missed as raised over 55 grand. have any of you ever dressed up as father christmas or santa? yes, i knew it was i think i got real something. sexy santa. sexy santa , of course. of course. santa, of course. of course. right question mr. fielding questions about my we can do all five questions. the next question . thank you. the sun question. thank you. the sun newspaper has been doing the

best to antagonise the french this week ahead of tonight's massive quarter but what massive quarter match. but what do do ? do they send white do they do? do they send white flags to french newspaper flags to the french newspaper offices, recreate the offices, be recreate the infamous used clothes front page of the newspaper, see , i of the newspaper, see, i purchased billboard adverts across paris with images of england football players proclaimed saying it's proclaimed the king saying it's coming. i'm back. i think that was my was and he this is a guess i'm going to go for say you'll say do you think i'm saying see to what i say you say see she says it's about just the opposite. think it's coming home. that's that's exactly happened. right. let's go to your next question. i what you got rid the question . oh, let me got rid the question. oh, let me ask one. i think does a girl believe maybe that's going to be tonight? well, let's hope englewood tonight what good luck dog got on that one now my one dog got on that one now my one dog is going to be one that they're going to use. i never win anything. they're not going to win. they're going to crack.

they do. i can't watch it because i don't taste one. i won't be watching some attracted in with them in in it, but i'll be with them in spirit. come in. good. he's lucky. on. this is lucky. pants on. well, this is not really no. on today's show we've been asking and we've been asking harry and meghan be stripped the titles meghan be stripped of the titles putting with final putting up with the final two for say x percent of you for you say yes x percent of you say no you so my panel and say no thank you so my panel and broadcaster and columnist lizzie candy. thank you, lizzie, because editor the daily mail because editor at the daily mail andrew joining and andrew pass forjoining me and also thank you also joining me, matt, thank you so matt lovely say so much. matt lovely say absolutely. looking forward to heanng hearing your single it's an honour thank to you at honour huge thank you to you at as well for your company i'll be back 4 pm. tomorrow to back at 4 pm. tomorrow to discuss top stories. but discuss the top stories. but from christine from broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, i'll leave one. it's leave you with this one. it's strong . it's matt. stay fabulous strong. it's matt. stay fabulous champion unity to push us . third champion unity to push us. third dark guidance and i'm standing inside you our hearts . not now, inside you our hearts. not now, not here . when you take away not here. when you take away come dance . not now, not ever.

come dance. not now, not ever. will you make us feel the band . will you make us feel the band. looking ahead to this evening's weather in the uk is looking cold but mainly dry with some showers . northern and western showers. northern and western coast . let's take a look at the coast. let's take a look at the details across southwest england, showers ease for many inland, but will continue for northern coasts of devon , northern coasts of devon, cornwall, and may turn wintry in places. a cold evening , cornwall, and may turn wintry in places. a cold evening, a widespread frost , a mostly dry widespread frost, a mostly dry evening for southeast england, though maybe the odd for far southern coasts cold with a chance of freezing fog in places too southern wales showers will continue around the coast though any further may be wintry staying cold again with a frosty night to come across the midlands and mostly dry to come with maybe just the odd shower that may turn wintry over any higher ground cold once again with freezing fog developing in places the north—east england it

will be a dry end to saturday and we may see the odd light shower for coasts , some mist or shower for coasts, some mist or freezing developing through the evening and, feeling cold showers will persist southwards across southern scotland this evening and overnight. some of which will be of snow over ground and a mix of rain and snow to lower levels. a widely dry evening across northern ireland with some clear spells developing a chance of the odd shower mainly in the north—east. later which could be wintry over high ground. a cold and frosty night with some patches of freezing fog , some wintry freezing fog, some wintry continuing for northern and western coasts . and that's how western coasts. and that's how the weather's shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning .

until i read this article, but this of have this legacy of in and, out and not doing too well. well, i mean, it is a bit that people got carried away. i mean, you know, we know quite a thing said there was a mile got carried away there was no tactical certainty whatsoever we noticed. but i'm torn between having some for the you see with a lot of these stories you just think yourself deeper and deeper into the that you've started to create and you know failed some tests of my

bafic know failed some tests of my basic and honesty and integrity early on didn't do the thing that i was supposed to do as i said didn't