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good evening and welcome along to episode of neil oliver live gb news tv and on. tonight on the program discuss the row over traffic plans by oxfordshire county council, which have been likened a lockdown by critics . likened a lockdown by critics. new zealand has been gripped by case parents lost custody of a child after refusing to accept blood donations from unvaccinated donors. it's a tough time of year for households financially . we'll households financially. we'll ask what can be done to alleviate problems. a lot of families are obviously facing. plus, plenty of chat with my panellists emma sale, tom buick and liam halligan . all of that and liam halligan. all of that and liam halligan. all of that and more coming up. but first update in latest news on tatiana sanchez. update in latest news on tatiana sanchez . neal thank you. this is sanchez. neal thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. at least three people have been killed in explosion on the

island of jersey . the blast island of jersey. the blast happened at a block of flats in the early hours of the morning in st helier as feared the number casualties could still climb with around a dozen people thought to be missing. chief fire officer paul brown says the search rescue operation could take days . it search rescue operation could take days. it is a total collapse and so the primary is that one. it is dangerous operate in and around the area. but second, early , anything that but second, early, anything that we do or don't in the wrong way might then jeopardise the chances of survival for somebody who might yet be able to be, you know, sort of rescued. so we to do everything in a slow , do everything in a slow, methodical way and we have to make sure that all of the right equipment with the right is in place in. order to do that energy regulator. place in. order to do that energy regulator . ofgem says energy regulator. ofgem says it's extremely that vulnerable people sheffield have been without gas a week. hundreds of customers were left without heating after a main burst last

friday, saturating the gas network. ofgem has described the situation is extremely difficult made worse by the sudden cold snap distribution company kaden . all affected homes and commercial will be automatically compensated . meanwhile, freezing compensated. meanwhile, freezing temperatures have been causing travel problems across the country. manchester airport was forced to temporarily close both runways after heavy snow affecting dozens of flights . affecting dozens of flights. yellow warnings are in place across northern ireland. wales the south—west and south—east of england. this weekend with temperatures expected drop to as low as minus ten degrees in some isolated areas . momentum is isolated areas. momentum is building with the world cup quarter final between england and france kicking off just under an hour's time . millions under an hour's time. millions of people are expected to . watch of people are expected to. watch the game, hoping beyond hope, gareth southgate's team will outclass the defending champions. the winner will face morocco which has become first african nation to make through to the semi—finals after beating

portugal one nil. meanwhile, the prime minister and french president have been getting theirjibes president have been getting their jibes in. president have been getting theirjibes in. emmanuel macron tweeted that he was looking forward to the game and asked rishi sunak would he wish the blues luck. his team makes it through. while the minister responded, saying hopefully we won't have to, and asked the sentiment would be reciprocated . rmt general secretary mick lynch has called for an urgent meeting with the prime minister is to try to resolve the long running dispute over pay and conditions. rail workers, union members are due to stage 248 hour strikes next week next week following months of action over the deadlock . travel expert the deadlock. travel expert simon told gb news most people by train have nothing to worry . by train have nothing to worry. train operators the government, everybody else is saying don't try and travel . please don't try and travel. please don't stay away. stay ignore that there are and i've surveyed all

of this. there's more trains running during these strike than they have during any of the previous national strikes which have been going on since june. okay. so as long as you're wanting to go on one of the main intercity lines, you live in one of the big cities. then there's to be trains between about eight in the morning and six in the evening . around 200 migrants evening. around 200 migrants have been intercepted crossing the channel this morning . one the channel this morning. one group managed to land on a beach at samphire hoe near dover. they've now been taken to the ftx process centre. calmer conditions are reportedly making the journey easier. over conditions are reportedly making the journey easier . over 44,000 the journey easier. over 44,000 people have crossed the channel so far year tv, online and maybe plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to .

it's back to. neil thanks, tatiana winter arrived last week and with it a dose of reality . all that talk about reality. all that talk about wrapping warm in the house, putting on an extra jumper, hot water bottles , full size ones. water bottles, full size ones. it's dangerous . nonsense. it it's dangerous. nonsense. it might be fine for a if you're a healthy adult, but it's a tragedy in slow motion for babies. young children, the elderly, the sick . and it's only elderly, the sick. and it's only the second week in december. it's a long until spring, even if letting up and donning a hat well enough to keep a body going once called properly, gets a grip of house to start to die in its own way. the creep of dampness that takes its own toll on and health alike. frozen pipes followed by burst pipes and not enough plumbers to go . and not enough plumbers to go. people who can't afford to heat. their homes are likely struggling with spiking food bills as well. all this in a first world country that was home to the industrial revolution that changed the world the better and lifted world for the better and lifted out of poverty. now grannies saved by locking down the world

until its heart stopped beating are sitting down to die alone of cold and hunger. it's amazing, inventive. the establishment has proven be in coming up with ways to elderly die to invite elderly to die miserable . lonely deaths are so miserable. lonely deaths are so cold leaders tell us all of it is a price worth paying by which they mean worth paying by us the little people. all decisions are being made by those have no intention whatsoever of spending much as 5 minutes in an unheated home, turn up the thermostat and fill out the claim. that's the order of the day for our elected representative all around them. or those that can't afford to heat their own homes , but are heat their own homes, but are forced to subsidise the of the sociopaths . put us here with our sociopaths. put us here with our hubns sociopaths. put us here with our hubris and equal vanity regardless of what nonsense they spoke. regardless of what nonsense they spoke . the cosy putin claim spoke. the cosy putin claim whatever at least know that the misery now and that lies ahead for millions is entirely the consequence of wilful destruction in the name of saving the world a green agenda that absolutely not green .

that absolutely not green. remember a few months back when a few hot days in a row occasioned yet more about imminent climate catastrophe. now the temperature is below zero and all we hear is cheery total about clear blue skies . total about clear blue skies. hopes for a white christmas . for hopes for a white christmas. for anyone still concerned, i'm here . tell you, the polar bears are doing fine . untold numbers are doing fine. untold numbers are on the as before. and the ice on the up as before. and the ice in antarctica is getting thicker every day . and if one more tv every day. and if one more tv presenter waxes lyrical about the joys of one meals and watching telly while wrapped in a duvet , where the outrage on a duvet, where the outrage on behalf of millions who can't afford turn on one radiator in one room, in country where century's worth of energy lies beneath our feet . putin didn't beneath our feet. putin didn't order the west to , put him in order the west to, put him in control of the energy required to keep the lights on in europe , everyone used to go cap in hand to russia. europe's leaders outsourced energy production so they , by cutting they could claw, by cutting emissions home where we are emissions at home where we are now , is entirely the consequence now, is entirely the consequence of politicians competing with

one another to see which of them can take the title of world's most psychopathic hypocrite . we most psychopathic hypocrite. we are the energy are not allowed the energy available from a century of gas beneath our feet here in britain because not green but we're because it's not green but we're paying because it's not green but we're paying dollar for billion paying top dollar for billion cubic twice as much as cubic litres twice as much as last year's order of gas fracked out of the ground . the united out of the ground. the united states. no. what? dependent on uncle sam . say what you like uncle sam. say what you like about sippy cup. joe biden. but he's played a there well done. the big guy. i wonder about that subject charge of nord stream two. i really do. a report published lancet reminded the world around 5 million people die every year on account of climate extremes . of those climate extremes. of those deaths, 4.5 million are caused by cold compared . 500,000 by cold compared. 500,000 attributed to heat . in our by cold compared. 500,000 attributed to heat. in our time on this planet, an interglacial between ages. it's always the cold that is far more of a deadly threat to. human life ten or 20 times as deadly and yet still the priests of the new

religion of climate preach that we must cool the world. you've probably heard that 97% of scientists are agreed that humans are the cause of climate change. it comes from research carried out in 2013. do you know how that team obtained that ? how that team obtained that? they gathered . 12,000 scientific they gathered. 12,000 scientific papers dealing with global climate change. they didn't read the papers. evans knew that would have been proper research . instead, they looked at just the summary paragraphs on the front covers . on that basis, the front covers. on that basis, the grip into four piles 3896 papers agreed . humans were to blame for agreed. humans were to blame for climate change . 7930 took no climate change. 7930 took no position way. 78 rejected the idea of being humanity's fault and 40 were uncertain altogether . that initial pass gave figure of just 32% blaming humans climate change. obviously that wasn't nearly scary enough . so wasn't nearly scary enough. so then came the gross and clumsy

cheat. the 7930 papers that took no position on whether humans are to blame were removed from the final analysis with them gone.the the final analysis with them gone. the figure of 32% went up to 97% and the likes barack obama and al gore have cutting it ever since . if my it ever since. if my interpretation is correct this is the kind of deliberate tampering evidence that underpins the net zero madness that's being pursued by the zealots running our country or rather ruining our country's . in rather ruining our country's. in a book published in 1987, physicist carl sagan wrote the following we've arranged a global, civilised ocean in which most crucial elements transportation, communications and all other industries agriculture medicine, education, entertain , protecting the entertain, protecting the environment and even the key democratic institution of voting profoundly depend science and technology . we have also technology. we have also arranged things so almost no one understands science and technology . this is a

technology. this is a prescription for disaster. we might get away with it for while. but sooner or later. this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our. and this it's our leaders who either fail to understand science and just parrot whatever propaganda lines in their inbox each day. what do they do understand underlying ? either understand underlying? either way, it's the prescription for disaster , as predicted by sagan disaster, as predicted by sagan agenda 2030. next is a second titanic and this time whole world's being hounded aboard like cattle. the passengers , the like cattle. the passengers, the original titanic had no way of knowing lay ahead for them in the north atlantic. this time around , millions of people who around, millions of people who could , should know better. you could, should know better. you have no excuse now for not knowing who could and should have realised long ago that they were being lured and, lied towards disaster , and actually towards disaster, and actually buying tickets for the ride on agenda 2030. a ship of 1500 people were lost when titanic went to the bottom. this time

the lives of billions . i went to the bottom. this time the lives of billions. i said it before and i'll keep seeing it. what lies beneath all the madness that's keeping so many millions of people prepared annually on the edge, knowing just that something somewhere has very badly wrong is ? an has very badly wrong is? an attack on humanity itself . this attack on humanity itself. this fact, above all others, must be understood. we have described useless people. we need to accept smaller cold or hungry lives . we should swap beef and lives. we should swap beef and chicken for beetles worms. and if you're white. you're the product of original sin. but birth and creation itself, an apology just for being here last yearin apology just for being here last year in canada 10,000 people died by euthanasia . 3% of all died by euthanasia. 3% of all deaths in the country . a deaths in the country. a disabled veteran and former paralympian retired corporal christine cottier says she was offered euthanasia . instead of offered euthanasia. instead of waiting any longer to , have waiting any longer to, have a stairlift fitted in a. after years of asking, cottier was told a health worker quote madam , you're really so desperate we can give you medical assistance in dying . she also wanted

in dying. she also wanted stairlift. canada's euthanasia program is to grow wider. next there are plans to offer death to people who are mentally ill, which hardly bodes well for the clinically depressed . plans are clinically depressed. plans are underway to help 18 die too. if want to. human life being devalued as easily as our currencies . last week there was currencies. last week there was yet another variation on the theme of stripping us of more of what it has meant to be human and. also lurking. the darkening umbrella of agenda 30 as climate lockdown . it's here already in lockdown. it's here already in the form a 15 minute city. in britain, the scam scheme is rolled out first in oxford. everyone will be confined to one of six ghettos inside which might live out their lives on foot, or perhaps bike. the labour liberal green council responsible says it will go ahead. whether people like it or not. every resident must register their car with the council which will use number recognition cameras to monitor their movements around the clock . anyone driving out of a

designee to get more than 100 times a year will be fined. this is about agenda and one agenda only. keeping people apart increasingly atomisation of society. the division of people into smaller and smaller dependent units . this outrage dependent units. this outrage proposed in oxford is the tip of an iceberg . because we humans, an iceberg. because we humans, we useless people , hackable we useless people, hackable animals are so suboptimal, so contemptible in the eyes of our self—appointed superiors . we self—appointed superiors. we must be watched at all times . so must be watched at all times. so just an oxford in every city, there are cameras monitored , there are cameras monitored, everyone's. every news. forget nonsense of the 15 minute city. it's simply. and the bowels of the cage of climate covid run out steam. and so the next excuse for , total control, is excuse for, total control, is the weather here in britain starts oxford, but a 15 minute city nonsense is already over the world. plans are in place for london, for paris, for milan, for krakow and poland and in scores more places beside in melbourne. zero covid zealot don

andrews the premier recently re—elected by in favour of seeing fellow citizens brutalised in the street by black clad stormtroopers waxes lyrical about a 20 minute city. don't bother with the details. just remember the word lockdown . a word that came from prison parlance is now all around us. the excuse changing, but lockdown remains the same. what should do? for a start we can stay awake and not be distracted by bread and circuses. ignore the self—pitying of royal sisters for a start. pay attention instead to better examples by far. remember those who stood up against totalitarians against those who despised fellow human beings and would take away the rights and the lives. last week we lost squadron leader george johnny johnston , last surviving member johnston, last surviving member of the dambusters . he was born of the dambusters. he was born into poverty. he lost his mum when he was three. his dad was less than kind to him , put it less than kind to him, put it mildly. he was mostly raised by his big sister. he volunteered

for service in the second world war and eventually his way into 617 squadron, the dambusters . he 617 squadron, the dambusters. he was married and raised three children. after the war, he was a teacher in primary schools and helping patients at rampton psychiatric hospital. he served as a local councillor. he was a warrior, a teacher and a public. in that order, he was a husband and father. given a choice between multimillionaire, selfless self publicists and self—serving politicians . elect self—serving politicians. elect a self less man like george squadron . squadron leader george squadron. squadron leader george johnny johnston . the johnny johnston. the distinguished flying medal. i knew who i'd stand beside . knew who i'd stand beside. here's the thing. we're being constant . good to see our own constant. good to see our own species . constant. good to see our own species. human constant. good to see our own species . human race constant. good to see our own species. human race as constant. good to see our own species . human race as the species. human race as the source of . all else. i say we source of. all else. i say we are not the technocrats and authoritarians to treat us like lab rats. it's time we all go up on our hind and remember what we are truly of . that's my opinion.

are truly of. that's my opinion. of course . and you. you're free of course. and you. you're free to disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming throughout the show. you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk and you tweet me as well at gb news. i'll try to get to your comments later. the show . what do you think ? the show. what do you think? euthanasia in canada . what do euthanasia in canada. what do you make of that story about the paralympian? just astonishing the i've never seen that statistic on euthanasia . it's statistic on euthanasia. it's just one of a of a smorgasbord a feast of interesting in that monologue i thought what i'd like pick up on is the extent to which you now openly criticising the net zero agenda. you've always been quite sceptical you'll now deriding it. and i think what reflects neal, i may say so, is what we call the overton window public debate has shifted with respect of all opinions are seen lie this time

last year before russia invaded before most journalists of the political media class even knew what a megawatt hour was, or a billion cubic metre of gas. they now don't they when energy policy was for nerds and economists like me , it would economists like me, it would have been what you just said there would have been seen as way out there. with all due respect. now, what you're saying is increasingly mainstream because we can all see the importance of energy security , importance of energy security, we can all see how vulnerable we are when energy prices spike. we can all see us in the face. even the national grid is now saying that we do face the prospect not the possibility, but the prospect not a probability of black as the weather . and we black as the weather. and we have had a cold snap over the last week. i think what i'd say, is that i to see us use less fossil fuels. i know you do too, but like you, neal, i don't

believe in the catastrophes of the fear that you talked about. we a sensible discussion about how we are going to use dirty fuels how we're going to pollute this wonderful planet of ours less . and i know you want to do less. and i know you want to do that, too, but where do the costs of that transition fall? who pays for net zero? and until point? it seems to have been the working and woman that pays the ordinary . working and woman that pays the ordinary. having their vans and cars taken away. i think all that now has changed. politics is starting to shift and listening to lieberman. i'm the this dirty energy i'm it's for me the is the is the waste and the mess that we make you know it's , the it's the it's the it's, the it's the it's the throwing away it's the it's the it's the obsolescence of everything we buy. just goes into landfill, isn't it more an issue that we're a wasteful civilisation that that's the

challenge you really care. but yeah we have some mum friends of mine in school they do this thing called terracycle and that's having big collections of all waste and it is disgusting, it's outside the school gates and you know, even our kids, if we think are that level and the we think are that level and the we use out and you just get so and you look at it and you just go tell the amount of packaging and i think that i think that's part of it as were saying is everyone everyone is so conscious of it now and aware it and it and discuss and you can see it and discuss know every day. i'm disgusted by myself. don't you . i mean, myself. yeah. don't you. i mean, i don't look you are on that i don't look at you are on that tom it's it's the mass tom but it's that it's the mass production all this stuff that just ends up being thrown away is all consuming energy . you is all consuming energy. you know, it's two sides of the same equafion. know, it's two sides of the same equation . if we were less equation. if we were less wasteful , then surely the wasteful, then surely the consumer of energy would be less of a problem. yeah, we've got a political class of course that's traded away energy security over recent years . that's why we're recent years. that's why we're in the predicament that liam

rightly outlines . but just rightly outlines. but just coming back to your monologue , coming back to your monologue, neal coming back to your monologue, neal, because as ever, week in, week out, i think you, you know, you bring words , eloquence to you bring words, eloquence to how of people, i think how millions of people, i think out there feel about the state of politics and what you were saying and quoting sagan saying there. and quoting sagan science , technology. i mean, science, technology. i mean, it's nothing new is and you know this better than any as an historian back millennia the have always had an uneasy relationship with changes in science technology agriculture indeed those in power. i think the question for us today that we all need to ask is are those power actually serving the interests , the people that they interests, the people that they get elected , serve? and that's get elected, serve? and that's why i just picking up on this final point that hit me between the about your monologue the eyes about your monologue and the example i and we're going to talk about later in going to talk about it later in show oxfordshire county show about oxfordshire county council is in the city council. so a councillor in the so i've been a councillor in the past myself so i know a little bit about what on in local government think the there government and i think the there this a sense we've this is where in a sense we've got turn from potential got to turn from a potential council despair

council of despair into remembering that we are the demos. right and you know, we do still nominally still live nominally in a democracy we can change the people these decisions people that make these decisions over mean say to over so you know i mean say to those people live oxford those people who live in oxford they have to be with they don't have to be with electronic filters and the idea of 100 policies given out of 100 policies being given out here, mean, god who here, i mean, god knows who decides. that's a hall. is decides. that's a town hall. is of. have to get out of of. so you have to get out of that particular part of the city vote those out and vote people in even if it's on a single issue anti perma in oxford council those people into power and make the changes. i think we've got to have some positivism about as well. you know not victims of a know we're not victims of a technocratic , a danger technocratic class, a danger that we fall into that whole agency. got to a break now agency. we've got to a break now after which local leaders in have approved plans to pick traffic filters on some main roads so that australia council see move is needed to reduce congestion . critics have congestion. critics have compared the scheme to the continued containment measures will be asking this .

think that the public will at least be sympathetic the is going to arise if you then get one or two people dying and the health service as a result of the fact that people have been on strike. well, that's a concern now. it's not an accident that we've brought both

having some for the fact that they were trying to attempt growth versus the fact that they squandered the opportunity and have now plunged us into this socialist hell what we is absurdly high tax and we're just the country's just getting poorer. did you know i found out they were now poorer than every single us state.

welcome back to neil oliver live oxford county council in inestimable wisdom have decided their city should be split into 615 minute neighbourhood resident s will be allowed to drive out of the zone 100 times a year . any drive out of the zone 100 times a year. any subsequent trips will attract fine. a council spokesman said. it's about having all essential needs met within a 15 minute of home. critics, however, say it will hurt . joining me now to discuss hurt. joining me now to discuss the pros and cons is neil crowley, who has campaigned against measures . thanks for against measures. thanks for joining me, neil. of all, is this just another front ? the this just another front? the endless war on the car and indeed people's freedom movement 7 indeed people's freedom movement ? i think it's definitely an attack on what i see , people's attack on what i see, people's freedom of movement. but also people's living standards . i people's living standards. i grew up without a. my community.

there very few people had cars and that was only 30, 40 years ago. no central heating either. so i think it's a relatively short amount of time that ordinary people have been able to afford such things and now we're being told to give them up straight away , you know, because straight away, you know, because you because of the problems of the climate it's and you know, it's what's been in in oxford has really blown up i think they've they if you look at try and look at the article the first thing you get is that it's been fact checked and proves to been fact checked and proves to be false cite that facebook are actually stopping the article going up and the facts of the of the meat of the piece was announced in in october that they had as you say they're dividing open to dividing oxford up into zones that you can only leave a certain amount of times and canterbury have announced a

similar thing with five zones . similar thing with five zones. derbyshire council a and putting cameras across city to monitor people's movements gives them the right to operate like this . the right to operate like this. councillors, what gives them the authority to deem whether or not it's appropriate a private person to go about their business in the way in which they want to do. i think people have ignored that . the people have ignored that. the people have ignored that. the people have become very disaffected with local democracy. so become , you know, there's almost an attitude of letting them get on with it, you know, as long as they fix the and run local services, things have been really changing the last few years. they've learned to operate with very few , you know, operate with very few, you know, checks , balances and. i think checks, balances and. i think they've put the cart before , the they've put the cart before, the horse, if you like, you know, rather than them being elected representatives , answerable to representatives, answerable to us . you know, we are becoming

us. you know, we are becoming more and more to them and they're doing much, much more authoritarian things . and authoritarian things. and because it's not on a local level , i because it's not on a local level, i think it's going under the radar a little. so i was in tottenham this week where there's a lot of the traffic neighbourhoods coming in over the past few weeks and people that don't know what's going on in hackney. people in islington what don't know what's going in hackney. and it's, i think it's starting to now and starting to shift now and i think they probably done a survey we what people , i survey what we what people, i think the ltm pro road closure they call it active you know these presented in a very way it's about traffic neighbourhoods it's about making streets more friendly and safe but really the main thing is about climate . a really i've about climate. a really i've said from the start they're not really interested in, you know, safe neighbourhoods or anything. it's carbon and climate it's about carbon and climate and are just numbers to be and we are just numbers to be moved on on a graph and that's really, really frightening , but

really, really frightening, but just on moments like this when, when a politician let's slip what they're really doing and people take a bit of a step and say you know wow you know that what this is about, you know, and the idea of zoning cities really frightens people. we can you know, eastern europe , you you know, eastern europe, you there's something sci fi about islam and so it should absolutely in essence for thousands of years, you know the idea of living in a city was the connectedness of , you know, connectedness of, you know, everyone was whatever within the city boundaries and you could move , would have yes, you could move, would have yes, you could have your home and you would have your home and you would have your home and you would have you would have a local a local area. but it was the connective of and the connectedness of it to all of those people and all of that potential. that was the d'etre for there being a city. yeah. and to and beyond that as well and beyond that, you know i think about how a nation our nafion think about how a nation our nation i started out on this writing about what was going on

in islington to two years ago dunng in islington to two years ago during lockdown because . it was during lockdown because. it was one of the first places where it started and that the people of islington march from islington town hall along the a1 , islington march from islington town hall along the a1, i was when i was reading and writing it, the significance of the one really jumped out me. i mean it's, you know than me that it's a pre roman road and it's that on this road in britain and it goes , you know, technically it goes, you know, technically it goes, you know, technically it goes all the way from england to scotland and yeah, it's an incredible thing. and you think about the progress that has been made in bringing us together as a nation. what do we what do we do? i mean, increasingly ask me, what do we do and i, i all can do really with that is ask other people in this context what should do to persuade or to remind people like oxfordshire county council that we will not be told how to live our lives , be told how to live our lives, that that is not their remit . that that is not their remit. yeah, yeah . it's an interesting yeah, yeah. it's an interesting dilemma. i've been following and

working a little with the together that done a lot of work, really successful work with the fighting the lockdown , with the fighting the lockdown, the vaccine vaccine and had a lot of success there and what they want to do, which is something that really appealed to me, is really just find ways of putting the public back at the centre things because. the centre of things because. i think at moment think politicians at the moment know can ignore . know they can they can ignore. the public, you know , they're the public, you know, they're more interested in the views of a few cycling campaigns, but but the public is so kind of fragmented. i mean, we need a cohere and kind of vehicle really will push out of views into the centre of into the centre public life a little because the past generations past it would have it would have been the council, the town council or the parish council or whoever would have been that place to which people would have taken concerns and they taken their concerns and they would expected action . they would have expected action. they would have expected action. they would expected it be, would have expected it to be, you up the chain of

you know, moved up the chain of command they would command and they would have expected resolution, know, expected resolution, you know, that thing. the that it's a top down thing. the dictates just come from on high. and councillors in those themselves that yeah themselves in thinking that yeah i think they've it's kind of product the last 3040 years product of the last 3040 years of this engagement if of political this engagement if you remember before brexit was a lot of you know we need to the pubuc lot of you know we need to the public we need to get what we do get them to vote in safe markets. and as soon as you ask the public what they think they would you know they gave the wrong answers. think our wrong answers. so i think our political class, if you want to call it that of are adept now at being self sufficient and keeping the public at bay . and keeping the public at bay. and it's really interesting that the whenever the public out of the councils come into contact with the public over low traffic neighbourhoods and any these issues they react by accusing people racism xenophobia , people racism xenophobia, bigotry, violence . the leader of bigotry, violence. the leader of hanngey bigotry, violence. the leader of haringey council used all of those terms last week about a

small peaceful demo and also make comparisons with the capital hill general to the 16. they felt a bit like capital hill. you know this is the language they use against the public, you know, it does beg the question, who do they think they are. yeah. all the time. yeah, absolutely. you mentioned earlier whole thing earlier for me the whole thing is a is a smokescreen , a sleight is a is a smokescreen, a sleight of hand to distract us from climate lockdown. and i think this what this is i think this is what this is i think these types of and many more to come out because of this obsession with getting people pinned . atomised isolated , you pinned. atomised isolated, you know, locked off in smaller and smaller under the guise of, you know, i mean i think it is heading that way i don't think there's any grand plan. i think i just grappling around there's any grand plan. i think ijust grappling around in there's any grand plan. i think i just grappling around in the dark really . i just grappling around in the dark really. i think that kind of decline idea is probably where go and there is no vision

from our politicians excuse me. so really all they're doing is just managing decline and the idea of opening coal station or , you know, a coal plant or , a , you know, a coal plant or, a nuclear power station or anything like that is, you know, reacted to with . and all we can reacted to with. and all we can do is just buckle down, you know , so save what we've got. it's almost what's cool is like a put on war footing where we all just have to have rations. but i don't know, i might be wrong, but don't see any great. they seem to be sailing us. pessimism is telling. prepare for the worst all the time . but worst all the time. but everything you know to do with the war in ukraine, to do with disease, to do with climate. yeah, everything is just prepare for the worst. yeah, i know. and it's going get worse. it's. it's going to get worse. yeah, would say experience yeah, i would say my experience of working people, the public and campaigns , that is, is the, and campaigns, that is, is the, you know , enormous amounts of you know, enormous amounts of potential in a very small people . you know, i think we can you

address these things and so a lot of our problems you know people the public very, very resourceful and it's just shame that so such talent is just kind of pushed the side. i mean, doesn't want people forced again and again and again and direction civil disobedience direction of civil disobedience . you know, you live in . you know, if you live in a city that's being controlled in this way it's and it's a this way and it's and it's a it's your ability to earn a living your mental health or living and your mental health or whatever people, you know , ought whatever people, you know, ought to it or mass . yeah. to defy it or mass. yeah. ultimately, if you said that not going listening. going if no one's listening. yeah, but you wouldn't blame them really. i mean them would you. really. i mean in hackney and is linton where i've been working people working , kinds of , they're doing all kinds of things. hadn't , they hadn't things. they hadn't, they hadn't actually same actually done what at the same time a mayor supports , you know, time a mayor supports, you know, actively supports extinction rebellion and you know these organisations that are actually attacking arts and you know, causing havoc and civil civil disobedience think the british pubucis disobedience think the british public is actually probably a bit too well—behaved at the moment and we do need to find

ways of putting ourselves right at the centre of things and even even if even if it was about the city. what about people if you take a typical there will be poor places there will be under—resourced places the areas territories whatever you want to call them and there will be those that have all you know, have all the nice chichi bars and restaurants and the art galleries and whatever . so what galleries and whatever. so what becomes of people who ? the becomes of people who? the designated zone is , one of designated zone is, one of deprivation. and that's and they're told that they stay and that they can't even can't even go to your aspire . you know, go to your aspire. you know, ultimately reaching the better parts of the city. no, absolutely. psychologically is the impact. if you think about pubuc the impact. if you think about public and then, you know, we're looking in london boroughs in a couple of weeks back and i was reminded of my childhood by waiting for a bus , 45 minutes in waiting for a bus, 45 minutes in the cold and cold and rain. and, you know, the public transport is not great in, you know , many is not great in, you know, many parts of the country and

resources and the things as you said, the things that are available to people. so it's about forcing down our expectations. you know , it's not expectations. you know, it's not been that long since we were able to go abroad and travel and see all of those things you remember those days yeah and you know it's not about and i grew up central heating by up with no central heating by the way islington council are actually turning people's actually turning down people's communal , which is communal at the moment, which is pretty shocking, which is , you pretty shocking, which is, you know, i think is kind of part of that expect . you've got to that expect. you've got to expect less, you know i see again i see an idea that neil crowley thank you very much for your time this evening you very i should say have a statement from council which reads from the council which reads traffic filters have been part of oxford's transport strategy since 2015 and are a key tool reduce traffic congestion in oxford traffic filters are not designed to stop people from driving vehicles driving private vehicles everywhere . the city will still everywhere. the city will still be accessible by car. some private car drivers may need use a different route during the operate hours vehicles going . operate hours vehicles going. the traffic filters will be

monitored by automatic number plate recognition cameras, not by gates or any other barriers . by gates or any other barriers. it's under half an hour until take on reigning champions france in the world cup quarter finals . qatar gp news reporter finals. qatar gp news reporter paul has been in doha for us throughout the tournament. paul what is the mood there approaching the big match ? well, approaching the big match? well, the mood at the moment as you can tell by these horns , you'll can tell by these horns, you'll probably hear throughout my report honking continuously the fans here of thousands of them streaming out because morocco through to the world cup semi—final was the first african side to reach the semi—finals, first arab country to reach the semi—finals . big historic moment semi—finals. big historic moment for the country for the for the country and for the region. and they've become a kind of figurehead for the arab world, really a lot of partisan support . people are driving support. people are driving around, honking horns, hanging

out of car rooves , waving flags. out of car rooves, waving flags. these huge buildings that you see around qatar draped all kind of lit up in the moroccan flag. so there's a lot noise around at the moment, but in terms of the england and france atmosphere it's building. there's not to long go until kick off a lot of anticipate and i would say probably more on the french side there the favourites to win this marginals as another group of morocco fans the homeless the moroccans you go yeah yeah exactly and i say the france fans are finding a little bit anxious, to be honest, speaking to them today, their marginal favourites to win, but know the england tools their england have the tools in their armoury. have the players armoury. they have the players that the it's a that can win the game. it's a little of a similar matchup to croatia and brazil yesterday. brazil favourites but brazil the favourites to win but croatia right through to the croatia so right through to the end overcame the odds end and they overcame the odds and had enough there and they had enough in there trying to get them over the line. and so it's a little bit like one. so we're looking like that one. so we're looking to it. we've the england

to it. we've had the england team through unchanged from to it. we've had the england tearline through unchanged from to it. we've had the england tearline up through unchanged from to it. we've had the england tearline up the ugh unchanged from to it. we've had the england tearline up the face jnchanged from to it. we've had the england tearline up the face senegal,d from the line up the face senegal, france also unchanged as well. kylian mbappe matching up against you've got against kyle walker. you've got harry up against hugo harry kane up against hugo lloris , both of whom play for lloris, both of whom play for spurs. remember history is against in the sense against england in the sense that england and france only met seven times in competitive matches and. england haven't beenin matches and. england haven't been in france since the 1982 world cup, and they've only beaten in two competitive beaten them in two competitive matches ever. so france win when it matters and england are going to have to overturn if they want to have to overturn if they want to through to world cup to get through to that world cup semi—final against the horn honking excellent honking moroccans excellent stuff paul thank for that and enjoy whatever it is that lies ahead for you this evening. well, if it goes the way you want it to. that was paul hawkins, gb news, reporter in doha for . another hawkins, gb news, reporter in doha for. another break now . doha for. another break now. we'll be discussing the news . a we'll be discussing the news. a court in new zealand has taken temporary custody of a sick child whose parents locked life saving heart surgery because potential blood donors may have vaccinated against .

with it appropriately and for that reason it will always be the most embarrassing period of my life but one you know that i'm going to be constantly reminded about. i think there was a google alert this week that it was 27 years ago that i was sentenced six and a half

accident that we've brought both of you together because like to build bridges once i sorted out this drama, i'll head northern ireland and then the middle east because michael crick, i believe that you had something of a contretemps with godfrey bloom some time ago do you care to give your your side of the story what's your account

covid welcome back to neil oliver live . this next story makes , my . this next story makes, my blood run cold a court in new zealand has seized temporary custody of a sick baby after his requested that any blood used in his upcoming heart surgery should from people who had not been dropped . covid 19 baby w as been dropped. covid 19 baby w as he has been identified in court papers in urgent need of an operation to his life. but his parents want him to come in contact with from those who had taken the job. his parents testified that dozens of punjab donors had offered to give blood, but the health said such a provision was and unnecessary . molly kingsley of the us for them campaign group fighting for children's rights me now good evening molly. thanks for being with me. hi neal. this to the

heart, does it not? the rights of the parent versus , the state? of the parent versus, the state? absolutely. absolutely it does. and it raises, i think, the first thing to say about this particular case is it a very extreme and i don't actually there is an easy or clear answer here. so this child needed lifesaving treatment . he was lifesaving treatment. he was obviously very, very, very poorly . you know, the hospital poorly. you know, the hospital where adams meant that that wasn't an easy solution were , wasn't an easy solution were, unvaccinated blood would be made available . now, i know that has available. now, i know that has been disputed in some media reports. i think there's also been a degree of exaggeration so that's virus material things on media saying the child was kidnapped . i know that that's kidnapped. i know that that's not the case. the child wasn't kidnapped. the court temporarily sees guardianship with him now thatis sees guardianship with him now that is extreme but actually goes way hundreds of years back where have a history of the state be in all the country or

other countries is on occasion intervene in the private family life when it considers that children's welfare seriously at risk . but i totally take your risk. but i totally take your point . it risk. but i totally take your point. it raises some risk. but i totally take your point . it raises some really, point. it raises some really, really difficult questions about . the limits of parental autonomy, and i'm sure we would say the naturally parental autonomy ought to be pretty much absolute . and particularly what absolute. and particularly what happens as is going to happen more and more often when a child faced with an operation needing a blood transfusion , you know, a blood transfusion, you know, in any country actually this very, very similar case happened in italy recently as well , where in italy recently as well, where again, it was ruled operation for a two year old had to go ahead with blood from vaccinated when the parents were very against this. when the parents were very against this . and where are you against this. and where are you on this? you know what, what's your instinctive reaction to heanng your instinctive reaction to hearing that the state when it feels it takes over it's a tncky

feels it takes over it's a tricky because i can say where medically they they they say in the way the blood is used and not assisted but goes the process the bill goes is the vaccine is and it's not in it if that makes sense so you can medically go but it doesn't really matter it's not the effects of the vaccine is in in that in in vaccinated blood if you. but then to me i'm quite black and white and gone by if you've got people unvaccinated and blood for why can't they just line up and could get up by the knees. yeah molly, the medics in new zealand argued that to accede to the parents request which said called a dangerous but surely dangerous precedent. but surely the precedent the danger precedent that matters set when states matters here was set when states around world did all around the world did all but mandate vaccines the mandate vaccines for the citizens whether they wanted to or not. you know what? now, on the other side of that and so the other side of that and so the precedent was set by the state and if people have come up with a solution that to say a

blood bank or, whatever, then ought not be taken seriously and taken for those that want it, i mean, i would absolutely agree with that, particularly for children , i think and i don't children, i think and i don't know if you saw there was another story last week that i thought was quite interesting as well on related to this, which was the one about the case, juua was the one about the case, julia hicks, who was a 14 year old in an and she was refused again life lifesaving life saving kidney transplant she wasn't herself against covid. duke university hospital refused to treat her. and i think is exactly the thing that we set such a dangerous precedent here where we have a vaccine that has been , you know, forced in some been, you know, forced in some cases pressurised onto populations, including children on the basis of the most appalling missing affirmation from authorities . and we've got from authorities. and we've got ourselves a real, real matter haven't we were rightly in my

view. there are many, many who simply will give this vaccine at this point to their children. and i think, you know , included and i think, you know, included feel that it never should been rolled out at this point to children and we're seeing the real world implications that and you know i would absolutely agree that actually there is a medical need now to that we don't dig in with what many of us think has been one of the greatest ethnic crimes actually in history. and actually we children and parents make these decisions in on the basis of their best . i decisions in on the basis of their best. i was decisions in on the basis of their best . i was really decisions in on the basis of their best. i was really , by decisions in on the basis of their best . i was really , by the their best. i was really, by the way, in which the language that was being used in the coverage in this country as well in the daily mail, for example, the couple used discredited and fringe anti—vax to try to show the jobs were unsafe , quote, but the jobs were unsafe, quote, but there's plenty evidence that shows that many people have been killed or injured by these medical products. it's not

fringe to heartbreak that putting this medical product your baby's arm might be to the detriment. that's not that's just a reasonable stance . no, just a reasonable stance. no, it's an absolutely stance in the stands. actually that was the right stance. and that we all should have had . we have a duty should have had. we have a duty to children. and i we've talked about it before, haven't we? but there's this smearing of who disagreed as anti—vax or conspiracy theories is just a very blatant to de—legitimize serious and in fact essential debate. and the more we carry on doing that, the more we're going to bed in that mistake and actually i think, you know, once you have a vaccine rolled out to a population , including children a population, including children , the basis of wrong, false, misleading , that in some misleading, that in some jurisdictions has now been confirmed . we know that to be confirmed. we know that to be the case . and then you add the case. and then you add coercion into that i mean, that's a really serious failing that's a really serious failing that we're talking about here and actually many, many of us

are very well within our rights to say that she would feel deeply with this product being given to children. well it kingsley of us for them thank you so much for your insight evening and i'm sure we will talk again about related subjects. thanks for no . another subjects. thanks for no. another break is . come at me so fast break is. come at me so fast after . which christmas is a after. which christmas is a wonderful time of? for many, but a lot of people are facing great hardship at the moment as. a lot of people are facing great hardship at the moment as . well. hardship at the moment as. well. i'll to my panel i'll be talking to my panel about difficulties about the many difficulties facing this winter. about the many difficulties incompetent implementation of it. well, this guy, mark littlewood, the director of the iea , had a sort of funny analogy iea, had a sort of funny analogy about this. he said, you have the recipe for making the most perfect and delicious pizza. and the pizza here is high growth economic . but if the chef is

economic. but if the chef is hubristic or crazy was sentenced six and a half years in prison . so you can years in prison. so you can never ignore it . fortunate. was never ignore it. fortunate. was there any financial motivation ? there any financial motivation? i mean, what you chasing or protecting bonuses? or was it really predominantly about your

pnde?l really predominantly about your pride? i it was really predominantly about your what's your account of what happened michael. well it was at a ukip conference about ten years ago now and i went up to godfrey with conference brochure, which had lots of little photographs of all, i think the ukip councillors from the country and i think the ukip councillors from welcome back. once more to neil oliver live. i have to speak very quickly, though, because time is behind us all the time. for many around the world this will be the first since will be the first chance since the of covid properly to the advent of covid properly to celebrate christmas . i have to celebrate christmas. i have to say, me and my in chief ignored any restrictions, but any and all restrictions, but there just me. there you go. that's just me. but expectation and pressure of

it all prove too much for some too shopping to do. gifts to sort. food to cook. it can also be a time of loneliness for people with loved ones to share the this of the festival with. this year, of course, cost lockdown crisis course, the cost lockdown crisis is making impossibly hard for millions . is making impossibly hard for millions. energy bills and food bills already crippling far bills are already crippling far too many christmas . just an too many christmas. just an added burden . tom, we need added burden. tom, we need differently this year perhaps more than we have in a long time . we do because it's at one time a year when we do to reflect with family loved ones. but i think, as you were saying, neil, it's not like that for everybody. i'm very fortunate now to have a wonderful family. i can spend christmas, but i can tell, you know, growing up know before i went into foster care, you having salvation army you know, having salvation army coming gloves coming around with a pair gloves and i had for and that's all i had for christmas. you know, are people who are sort of position who are in that sort of position year year out, who are going year in, year out, who are going to make choice this christmas between eating between either eating or never mind christmas presents or will be able to afford a decent roast

dinner because frankly, you probably worry about whether or not you can afford to heat it. and that's the reality and i think, you know, we have to think, you know, we have to think here we are in 21st century britain that got words that have entered a lexicon like food bank bank you know this sort of notion that we've got to almost live in this enforced austerity just enjoy what you know even during the wartime penod know even during the wartime period people saw absolutely fundamental human . liam, i'm fundamental human. liam, i'm sure you're the economist among . what's being quoted in terms .what's being quoted in terms of the way prices are up. is we short of the. yes. i mean, we did we did a cupboard filling shop this week. and it was double at least what it cost us last this time last year. we the truth of it headline is 11.1. neal but many people the idea the of living is only gone up 11% since this time last year is . a sick joke. it's100 cent particularly for less well—off people. they're disproportionately spending their money , food and fuel and

their money, food and fuel and those necessities and energy bills they've up far more than 10, as you say. they've gone up 50, 80, 100% in some cases. this was meant to be the christmas . was meant to be the christmas. it was the first christmas free of covid or the imminent threat of covid or the imminent threat of covid or the imminent threat of covid restrictions since 2019. and yet it's turned out to be the cost of living crisis . be the cost of living crisis. you say the cost of lockdown crisis, christmas . and then on crisis, christmas. and then on top of that , we have all kinds top of that, we have all kinds transport strikes, bus strikes strikes, motorway strikes. just when people desperately need their . it's when people desperately need their. it's interesting, tom, you wartime at in wartime people would sit in the front room and have a singsong on these days solidarity or people are more likely to be staring into their screens and their devices . so screens and their devices. so i desperately want us to have a great christmas. wouldn't be great christmas. wouldn't be great if england won the world cup. you may think differently. it's no i'm all for. but my

concern is my concern is that the cost of living is squeezing so tight, so more than the headune so tight, so more than the headline numbers suggest that a lot of people they could find this christmas free of covid restrictions even more pressurising given that the intensity of the way that stuff is thrown in your face the last couple of christmases when we've had covid and it almost feels like a concerted effort to keep us on edge, doesn't it? it's everything. yeah. it's just one thing after another. i even christmas saying we're not, you know, we're not locked down. we have last years, have been the last two years, you was meant to be. you know it was meant to be. yes. first christmas yes. the first three christmas and so people's christmas and i know so people's christmas parties cancelled next parties have been cancelled next week because they can't get into london can't, you know, london and they can't, you know, it's again, once again, it's like so again, once again, hospitals city has been absolutely the next absolutely smashed in the next couple and that's couple of weeks. and that's because in. and because regions i'm not in. and out cities and you get out of cities and you can't get and you know postal and you're you know postal strikes are going strikes what are you going to get cards? it's just get cards? oh, no, it's just they'll just mess with us. yeah. coming up out the break. we'll

be meeting this week in great britain. cleans road britain. liam who cleans road signs of charge order signs free of charge order to make look nicer nicer.

hubristic or crazy or incompetent, you're not going end up with a particularly tasty pizza. does that mean shouldn't eat pizza again? no, it just means shouldn't eat pizza cooked by that chef. you when you're he's committed, you regret an analogy halfway through. yeah, he's got a good point i mean, he's got a good point i mean, he's saying there's nothing wrong with these kind of

welcome back. once more neil oliver live. still to come , the oliver live. still to come, the second hour of the program . i'm second hour of the program. i'm about to speak to this week's britain. liam wilder, a cleaner who also spruces up the signs in his community without charging a fee. more and more people are considering giving up the rat race to start own businesses. entrepreneur family will be here to talk us through the pros and cons etiquette. laura windsor will be here to tell us what she makes of harry and meghan's explosive netflix documentary. we'll also be discussing the endunng we'll also be discussing the enduring popularity of mariah carey's christmas song . the carey's christmas song. the finding out about my panel's

favourite festive tunes. but first, let's get the news headunes first, let's get the news headlines with sanchez . neal you headlines with sanchez. neal you very much. this is the latest from gb newsroom. at least three people have been killed in explosion on the island of jersey . the blast happened in jersey. the blast happened in a tower of flats in the early hours of the morning. in somalia is the number of casualties could still with around a dozen people thought to be missing. chief fire officer paul brown says the search rescue operation could take days . says the search rescue operation could take days. is a says the search rescue operation could take days . is a total could take days. is a total collapse and so the primary is that one of these dangerous to operate in and around area but secondly anything that we or don't do in the wrong might then jeopardise the chances of survival for somebody might yet be able to be know sort of rescued. so we have to do everything in a slow, methodical way. and have to make sure that

all of the right equipment with the right expertise is in place. in order to do that. while the much anticipated world cup quarter final between england and france has just kicked off with millions expected to be watching the winner of that match will morocco which has become the first african nation to make it through the semi—finals after , beating semi—finals after, beating portugal one nil energy regulator, ofgem says extremely concerned that vulnerable people in sheffield have been without for a week. hundreds of customers were left without heating after a water main burst last friday saturating the gas network. ofgem has described the situation as extremely difficult made worse by the sudden cold snap distribution company cayton says all affected homes and commercial properties will be automatically compensated . automatically compensated. meanwhile, freezing temperatures have been causing travel problems across the country. manchester airport was forced to temporarily closed both after

heavy snow affecting . dozens of heavy snow affecting. dozens of flights. yellow warnings are in place across scotland northern ireland, wales the south—west and south—east of england . and south—east of england. weekend with temperatures expected to drop to as low as minus ten degrees in some isolated areas . rmt general isolated areas. rmt general secretary mike has called for an urgent meeting . the prime urgent meeting. the prime minister is to try resolve the long running dispute , pay and long running dispute, pay and conditions for rail workers . conditions for rail workers. union members are due stage 248 hour strikes next week . hour strikes next week. following months of industrial over the deadlocked row . and over the deadlocked row. and around 200 migrants have been intercepted the channel today. one group managed to land on a beach at samphire home near dover. beach at samphire home near dover . they've now been taken to dover. they've now been taken to the ftx processing centre. com a are reportedly making the journey easier today. over 44,000 people have crossed the channel far this year. tv online

, dab plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to neil oliver live . oliver live. welcome back tonight, my great as a young entrepreneur is literally brightening his community. wilder issues 25 from clean window cleaning has been widely for taking time out from his round in maidstone in kent to clean road signs free of charge, making them easier for motorists to read while also improving the appearance of the area. liam joins me now. liam, welcome . all right. yeah. what welcome. all right. yeah. what what inspired you to set yourself extra work on top of everything else doing? i think it was more to give back. give back to the community. so if you at window cleaning as being quite a community oriented use of community orientated business where you know members of the community will sort of share

your with one another sober thing to neighbours, friends and stuff like that and. i thought that was really nice and that's what's helped this business up from in the early days. so a nice way of giving back to the community as well as giving a good report to the business would be to take care of the community in which you operate. so of course, road signs post office i like the idea . you office. i like the idea. you know most people would just drive along, see and almost obliterate it. filthy saying and just just ignore it, just drive on. but you saw it and thought that you could do. yeah, yeah. literally they're very to clean actually especially with the set i've got, you know. so you know even the biggest signs take just a couple of to clean up and i've actually been making little 40 seconds all sort of clean and satisfying videos of the roadsides now and posting them onune. roadsides now and posting them online . that's what's done the online. that's what's done the really well online and this is not the first time that you've embarked on this as. i know it's

not around yet. so i did this three years ago when i first set the business. so back in nottinghamshire, where i used to live and it just seems to perform really well for people , perform really well for people, the idea of how the business is sort of giving to the community and then just the obviously the satisfying side of the road signs. i mean , tom, these are signs. i mean, tom, these are always encouraging stories . always encouraging stories. listen to someone that that can see something within their world they can affect positively . oh, they can affect positively. oh, it's fantastic. so and i have to say, is one of those sort of middle aged that drives around often, gets frustrated when i see signs that i can't read or there's overgrown trees and growth that just sort prevent growth that just sort of prevent you from to you from getting to a destination time. so i think, you know, brilliant what doing but also this other but there's also this other element to which i think is element to it which i think is changing the nature of how businesses, particularly start—ups guys market themselves, success fully, you know, actually using social media. i mean, you talk a lot about some of the downsides of

big tech and you know i agree with you on a lot of these things but i think you know this story also shows you that as potentially upside as well. potentially some upside as well. you businesses going just a you know businesses going just a few think you know, few weeks and i think you know, in the green room, you were telling me how many tens of thousands likes clicks thousands of likes and clicks and referrals you've got and referrals that you've got as and referrals that you've got as a of going that a result of going down that track. tell a bit about that track. tell us a bit about that the impact it's hard the impact that it's hard because only been a because it's only been a short penod because it's only been a short period time yeah, it's period of time and yeah, it's already big reaction. already had this big reaction. yes, i've only been running for four weeks. it's the engagement was to be honest was almost instant to be honest like i posted on think it was like i posted on i think it was maidstone matters facebook page and got 16,000 members from and it's got 16,000 members from the same community on there put the same community on there put the videos on and straight away it was you know 100 likes within 10 minutes and stuff like that and of course then it'll catch and of course then it'll catch an algorithm then so it'll make it the most relevant at top of the page and then you've just got comment after comment after comment comment of in comment after comment of like in the obviously the difference and obviously they, see the they, they can see the difference themselves visually because much because you know, pretty much everybody and they everybody a motorist and they

will they see will drive around, they will see the they'll have the signs. they'll have seen that dirty and. then that the are dirty and. then they see that they're all clean. and the there's sort of and then the there's sort of that recognition side there. and then the business you then the business that, you know, of comes in off the know, sort of comes in off the back because obviously the back that because obviously the record a window record i was always a window in business. get quotes business. so then you get quotes and and stuff off and inquiries and stuff off the back so business is back that so the business is start to grow that's the genius element i think ethical marketing business marketing in you know business women these are this is the right way to think it because as we live a digital world and everything, everything we do is it's digital is the bane of our existence and trying to work out to , how as you said, are the to, how as you said, are the logarithms and the series and sort of get do something like guerilla is, you know, this is guerilla is, you know, this is guerilla marketing. this is sort of that stunt of impact get noficed of that stunt of impact get noticed , get some attention go noticed, get some attention go viral and you know it's also it's not that there's that sense it's not that there's that sense it you know people just sit around at the moment expecting the world to fall into their laps. the world to fall into their laps . everyone to do stuff you laps. everyone to do stuff you know it's victim mentality out there the moment of, well,

there at the moment of, well, someone else can do it for me. so just to see someone, you know, getting off their house and actually for free with that self respect and not wanting to fix the and something to look at you know make the effort is amazing that understanding that you've got you know if you give a little you know you get so yeah it's a warm fuzzy feeling necessarily the way you're doing. i'm not sure. no, of course. yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. you make that positive contribution. yeah. then it begins. you get, you can get a long doing something for for long way doing something for for free the so of course free the people. so of course obviously side in obviously side of market in every vision comes full circle it benefits the community they recognise you're doing and through recognising what you're doing they're recognising your business so it's also marketing and promoting your business through a thing. so the ripples that it builds for the biz, you just automatically recognise the good things and that has a positive impact on on the people, you know how is the window cleaning side of over we're overlooking completely. oh

basically people the people that do follow my social media will see that on facebook side of see that on the facebook side of things that you the things that, you know, the regularity of the post temporarily has a bit of a hold while i'm actually processing through all of the new clients so i'm i go in and work in at the moment still the content you know isn't just finished know this isn't just finished it's just a one time thing it's not just a one time thing you they've seen and you know they've seen it and it's this actually sort it's stop. this is actually sort of the little model of my business is that for as long as it's operating within these communities, to communities, i will endeavour to make that business is make sure that the business is giving so it's sort of the giving back. so it's sort of the structure, business in structure, the business in a sense. if i move a new sense. so if i move to a new area, i start building out new clients in the road and clients in the road signs and stuff that i'll stuff for nurture that i'll endeavour make sure that endeavour to make sure that they're maintained. yeah as you say, how to police that say, you know how to police that line between handing out freebies look at freebies which you could look at it. you know it. yeah yeah you know in traditional business because it. yeah yeah you know in tradileader3usiness because it. yeah yeah you know in tradileader3usirknowecause it. yeah yeah you know in tradileader3usirknowecalnot loss leader you know it's not usual for businesses to give product to services product away or to give services away but how do in your mind sort of just police that line between in any given area between in in in any given area going there giving you going out there and giving you labour free. and also you've

labour for free. and also you've got bills pay day. i think got bills pay every day. i think like think an like i think it's just an ongoing i've got to balance as i go to fair it's just an go along to be fair it's just an ongoing i'd say oh yeah ongoing i'd love to say oh yeah i can just do a set amount time of this and this, but it's an ever evolving thing. so i tend to spend day, i will go in to spend a day, i will go in a day and that's where i will go and do as much as i can in terms gaining or get it as much gaining this or get it as much effectively. been in as many effectively. so been in as many road i can get into road signs i can get into content and then i'll have three weeks where i'm working daily with the clients, dealing with the business. can also the business. and i can also then of trickle feed the then sort of trickle feed the content that i've got onto. the social problem you've made social media problem you've made a for your back people a rod for your back people obviously. yeah, the windows . obviously. yeah, the windows. fine. but have you seen the state of the st. i can't state of the st. yeah. i can't read the post time. yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. possibly. well that bndge yeah, yeah. possibly. well that bridge when they come to it but these are again again. so these are just the positive stories that to you know, going that we need to you know, going into winter or in the thick into the winter or in the thick of the winter. but when so much doom and gloom and there's so negativity this and you

negativity to hear this and you know, you'll be you'll be one of many people who are there many people who are out there doing. and it's just a doing. yeah. and it's just a reminder you have of reminder you have tonnes of these people your, you know, these people on your, you know, people who just go the extra mile you they show that they've got individual agency agency got individual agency of agency as well and that's what civic pride is all about. every time you every day they're not just at as they say yeah you keep up the good work brilliant . thank the good work brilliant. thank you. after break, have you ever quitting your job and starting quitting yourjob and starting your own business? we'll be to someone who has done exactly that. someone who has done exactly that . see you someone who has done exactly that. see you in a couple of minutes . that. see you in a couple of lot what i did during that time. i just couldn't let that status go and own up to. what was what was really happening . yes. what was really happening. yes. what you were a young and i guess,

you were a young and i guess, you know, young men always have bit of an ego, especially in world of finance. and you

wrong with these kind of principles, but they just didn't apply principles, but they just didn't apply them very well. yeah okay. and they're the times now and justin welby got locks on his doors in a big wall in his house. but he says that this should have open borders. nick this makes me angry. as a christian and as a person. justin welby

world of finance. and you becoming a bit of a legend , the becoming a bit of a legend, the golden boy. and you didn't want to that go. i can understand completely how that would be a trap . if you're a bit trap. if you're a bit emotionally immature , all young emotionally immature, all young people are . can you tell me people are. can you tell me about the day when it all came welcome back . now, have you ever welcome back. now, have you ever thought of being your own much like liam wilder , that we were like liam wilder, that we were just talking to the press in great britain. if so, you're not alone. many considering quitting

jobs to start up their own by themselves, and for who haven't quite had the confidence so far. 2023 could be the year to take the plunge. my next guest knows all about the challenge of starting a business from scratch and has learned many lessons the way. joel co—founder of chocolate green and blacks , chocolate green and blacks, joins me now. good evening, joe. thank you . evening, neal. lovely thank you. evening, neal. lovely to see you. patrick we hope to see that green and black's has quite well. i would . it's quite well. i would. it's a start up pretty well. i mean, i to say that i never imagined went on day one that it would become a kind of ethical brand. and to be honest, i if you told me that on day one, i might have been scared to start. but you know, we built some tiny beginnings in the middle of a recession. and i think that that's a real story of hope for the many, many people out who are looking to start their own

business, according to a survey by a t or commissioned by them , by a t or commissioned by them, the association of accounting technologists . one in three technologists. one in three people in the last has either started their own business seriously contemplate it and 18% of people it's honestly the only way that they can feel that they can progress in their work. so i think , i think that bodes really think, i think that bodes really well the future as you would just saying. there's a lot of doom gloom around but actually there's a lot of positivity to what experience did you have in business when started getting advice, you talk starting it you know with with very little and on a very small scale and i no experience as as a business person i was a journalist actually a magazine editor and my skill has been putting myself in my customers. my skill has been putting myself in my customers . and so that was

in my customers. and so that was what i brought to the business i was in with my husband. and he did have a lot of business experience . i took care of the experience. i took care of the pr and the marketing, the product development branding, the design , the sampling, etc. the design, the sampling, etc. so i really had a lot lessons to learn very quickly quickly . what learn very quickly quickly. what are the common mistakes made by start ups or is there such a thing as a common mistake? i think there is and. one is kind of not looking after money side of not looking after money side of it. i mean , know, i think as of it. i mean, know, i think as as a creative person , it really as a creative person, it really helps to have somebody either on your team or an accountant backing up who can tell you your financial position at any single because actually that's the make or break for any business it's cash flow . it's always making cash flow. it's always making a profit it's. have we filed a vat return time or whatever and i

don't think that anyone going into business should necessarily expect to have all the skill sets required for setting up their own business. so you might have you might be really, really creative , but on the other hand, creative, but on the other hand, you might not have the financial nous to kind of push the business forward or even write you business. so i think it doesn't work very often is when you have two creative people together and then nobody remembers invoice the customers . but i've seen that happen more than once. let me tell you . than once. let me tell you. emma, what's your experience as a working in private . business a working in private. business how do you find the confidence to? just start something that hasn't previously existed? i i think what's the right. hasn't previously existed? i i think what's the right . okay be think what's the right. okay be fit and fit . and i wasn't happy

fit and fit. and i wasn't happy with . oh sorry. i was i think with. oh sorry. i was i think a lot of people launches launch businesses because they get annoyed that what they're looking for is an out. annoyed that what they're looking for is an out . so they looking for is an out. so they see something missing and they want to fill that. and i said, you there's a fire in your belly too. they saw a lot of people. you know, when i say i see a lot bigger, i'm an entrepreneur and 90, bigger, i'm an entrepreneur and go, i've been doing it 17 years and i hate that that title. and i think most people do that want to start to fix something. they start something without really thinking of the label of i'm to be my own boss and launch my business it's like, no, i'm going to do this and then suddenly go, oh my god, suddenly sit and go, oh my god, i'm own business. how i'm running my own business. how did joe was this did that happen? joe was this does that resonate with you? that there seemed to be something absent from that there seemed to be son marketplace absent from that there seemed to be son marketplace and absent from that there seemed to be sonmarketplace and absefelt'om the marketplace and you felt that had the answer? well, that you had the answer? well, i as happens, i stumbled across as it happens, i stumbled across two squares of dark chocolate sitting my husband's desk, and i put them in my mouth. and this taste explosion went off and

it's like, oh, my god, this this is the darkest, yummiest, naughtiest chocolate i've ever eaten . i kind of didn't even eaten. i kind of didn't even know wanted it until i tasted . know wanted it until i tasted. and then we really got it. it was a very long story, but it was a very long story, but it was a very long story, but it was a sample that had crossed his his desk. he was in the natural food business with a brand called hold, but couldn't launch a chocolate bar because , launch a chocolate bar because, had sugar in. and this whole company ethos with no less, with no added sugar. and so that was it's like, i've got to do this. i've to share this with the world. and i remembered a postcard that i bought in carnaby street when . i was 16 of carnaby street when. i was 16 of a man on a diving board. it basically said , if you don't do basically said, if you don't do it, you'll never know would have happened you had it. it, you'll never know would have happened you had it . and happened if you had done it. and i went to the edge of the board because i really did. you know , because i really did. you know, i discovered something that wasn't there and i really wanted to share it. mm hmm .joe part of to share it. mm hmm. joe part of what attracts me to gb news

actually was that it was a start up. i mean, i wasn't i wasn't part of know putting together the structure of it. but i was attracted by the idea of it being something new, you know, with a back story and with a history and i wondered if people part you have an inclination about a business idea you know is the idea of starting something completely new and all of the opportunities that then present themselves because you have a you tabula rasa a blank slate i agree and i think you're much more likely to be successful if you're not just copying what somebody else does. you know, i've really got no time for businesses which go, oh, they're doing something really clever . let's do the same really clever. let's do the same thing. i think the really successful businesses are the ones that do something ones that just do something differently bring people something that they either didn't know they wanted or you know will for but couldn't find. and that's what i mean about putting yourself in the

customer's shoes, etc. but there is a brilliant do have to signpost anybody who's looking to start their own business to really fab website called in for me to talk which is it's basically got a for me dot code uk actually does a is actually e—book that you can download about how to start a business in 20 days and it's got every single bit of the roadmap you need to get from , you know, 0 to need to get from, you know, 0 to 16, 20 days. and i really, really wish that i'd had something like that because as you say, i had to learn it kind of going along. but i the amazing thing about going into now, you know is that you've got extraordinary resources at your literally on your and that's a great bonus for start now compared to even even ten years ago there was nearly so information out there and i say to people take all the free help

you can get you know there's loads there. this is not a lonely furrow that you to plough alone . tom, do you think that if alone. tom, do you think that if there is a drive more , people there is a drive more, people starting businesses are to something else ? i mean, we're something else? i mean, we're listening, you know, emma and jo saying that about having a fire, having an idea. but do you think maybe the environment out there is not forcing people , but is not forcing people, but persuading people to think, well, maybe i betterjust do it for myself? yeah. i mean look, we're all stuck in this kind of psychological, aren't we? do we take a do we make a job or take a or do we make a job or you a job for ourselves and for others? i mean, throughout my career, up two career, i've set up two successful businesses, one for profit, one non—profit. i've also respect secular failure with a business as well that just went completely nowhere . just went completely nowhere. cost me loads, loads of money of investment . what thought investment. what was thought upfront . well well it was back upfront. well well it was back in seen 16 i launched in i seen 16 i launched a marketing website called love apprenticeship . com and it was

apprenticeship. com and it was about trying to expand the number of friendship opportunities. the trouble is it happened at the time when the chance to change whole funding mechanism won't go into the technical , but for how technical, but for how apprenticeships in this country are all the work put are funded. so all the work put into the business model about, how to market the service was almost made redundant over night and i think this is often the challenge. so many entrepreneurs is you can have the basic idea, but the end if you don't have all the tools at your disposal to execute that business plan then it won't go anywhere . i do then it won't go anywhere. i do think, you know, i mean, it's really interesting that in this country we're very good actually at start up businesses. the number of businesses that get set by companies house ltd set up by companies house ltd companies is in the hundreds of thousands every year is. just a bare fact . half of all bare fact. half of all businesses that are set fail within the first year. and actually when you look at britain's challenges compared to the united and other countries around the world really good around the world are really good at entrepreneurship thing at the entrepreneurship thing it's how do get take it's really how do get take start—ups to what is also called

scale ups. you know we don't have these big unicorn businesses they're called, you know, these sort of billion plus businesses this country businesses in this country because we sort of fail at that important point between setting out some might call lifestyle businesses , just about just businesses, just about just making a forjob yourself and a few others around you and actually those business actually taking those business on on to be world leaders. well beating companies. that's a real challenge britain due . do challenge for britain due. do you agree with that is there is there something missing in the system where people have the system where people can have the best get it to a certain best idea get it to a certain point and the framework or the or the support and backup isn't there to create that next step to greatness. yes. i mean think you know it's pretty sad a few years ago that the government withdrew the sort of enterprise agencies , the uk which offered agencies, the uk which offered a lot of hand—holding to people and scaling up is really important mean after nine years we took investment from equity into green and blacks then it was sold to companies 2005. craig and i my husband and i are

still involved . green black's still involved. green black's now , but at a certain point you now, but at a certain point you have to go you know what i'm i help with this and in fact when we when took investment from private equity some guys came in we had new financial director new new marketing director who came burger king who was you know that a bit upsetting for a couple of vegetarian but it turned out to be the exact be the perfect guy to kind of move the perfect guy to kind of move the business forward and i think you know, if when you've got that financial picture of your business, it will get to a certain point and you'll in our it was all stockholding i mean if you've got a physical product and your sales are growing and growing and growing, you're going to have terrible cashflow challenges and not that carefully found accountant from 80 is going to come in and say look we can't pay the bills this week. and so i think at some point i might husband turned to me and said, well, i'd rather a

smaller percentage of something than 100% of nothing. you know , than 100% of nothing. you know, the reality is that many, many businesses go through that terribly scary moment of thinking that it's all going to be lost and, you know, as we just heard, half businesses do fail in the first year. but but half succeed so far still there . and i think that that's, you know , glass half full for me and know, glass half full for me and i look around and i see all kinds of incredible start ups . kinds of incredible start ups. so i feel really positive at the actually and i would just add to the point about are people looking to start their own businesses at the moment? yeah, we've heard a lot about how many employers now are to push people back into workplace. actually, bums on seats in the office . and bums on seats in the office. and i think a lot of people are going, you know, i actually work much better on my own steam. i can work to my body clock. i

mean , in my case, you know, i'm mean, in my case, you know, i'm a lock up at 5:00 in the morning. other people my husband works really well at 11:00 at night. and the kind of average 9 to 5 absolutely doesn't take that into account at all. know, i find it just i find it just exciting and inspirational. i'm always i'm always taken in by people who who have an idea . and people who who have an idea. and i've actually been able to do something with a find that , you something with a find that, you know, truly life affirming when people able to a business up people able to get a business up off ground wherever is, you off the ground wherever is, you know, it could be it could be anything at all. always i'm anything at all. i'm always i'm always encouraged by listening anything at all. i'm always i'm al\that encouraged by listening anything at all. i'm always i'm al\that kind uraged by listening anything at all. i'm always i'm al\that kind of ged by listening anything at all. i'm always i'm al\that kind of findby listening anything at all. i'm always i'm al\that kind of findby li�*it's ing to that kind of find and it's really simple i can't tell my really simple to i can't tell my camera, but you would see that there's a sign on my wall that things only get done when you do. and i think that that's the key difference you'll know lots and lots people who kind of talk about got mates about doing and we've got mates who on about what they're who go on about what they're going do . but actually the going to do. but actually at the end day, it's about up end of the day, it's about up your sleeves, it's about, you know, following that 20 day road plan, the 20 to start your

plan, the 20 days to start your business from. and for me to the uk and putting one foot in front of the other because the end of the day that's the only you start a business is stop talking about it and you start doing it. inspiration stuff you fairly entrepreneur . thank you so much entrepreneur. thank you so much for your time this evening. coming after the break, netflix released , the documentary this released, the documentary this week you might have noticed about harry and meghan , which about harry and meghan, which got a bit of press coverage dunng got a bit of press coverage during their etiquette expert. lot of wins of will be here to tell us what she made of the programme so far. tell us what she made of the well michael you have probably faced worse adversaries than godfrey bloom but i can't imagine it was fun to be clubbed over the head or neck , my neck over the head or neck, my neck and face. to be honest, it was

pretty many television reporters suffered much worse than any of the ink from suffered much worse than any of justin welby condemns cruelty of uk's asylum policy. he's saying that he's talking about the harmful rhetoric of invading i want to be very concerned about his rhetoric. so this is the church once again sticking its war into politics and it's always a lefty or always what the labour party would say really it's these liberals have infiltrated the church they should really stick to christianity but they've ditched that in favour of left wing politics and. we've had it's a

very bad time because down here we've had a there was a priest on today saying that he about the day when it all came crashing down? your emotions ? crashing down? your emotions? yeah. well, look mean. that's the first time that i've really had to confront it. somebody come into the office . i

come into the office. i performed a very simple reconciliation that should have been done single day for reconciliation that should have the ink from the ukip brochure. go onto your face, onto your skin before any of the. not that i'm aware of. in fact the next day i went to immigration. no, the next day i went to the pound . the next day i went into the ukip conference welcome back to the for a man who has said he wanted his family to have a life. prince harry has a funny way of going about it. he and his missus, not to mention their kids, are once

again talk of the town following the release of netflix the release of a netflix documentary reveal documentary in which reveal intimate details the relationship family life . it relationship and family life. it must tricky when your m.o. relationship and family life. it must tricky when your mo. is must be tricky when your mo. is complaining about. press intrusion and the behaviour of the media and how sad it's made you feel. yet your business model predicated flogging model is predicated flogging your to. the highest your privacy to. the highest bidder any . joining me now to bidder any. joining me now to unpack thinking of the shrinking of sussex is etiquette laura windsor. good evening and welcome laura. thank it's great to be here against all of my better instincts. i have been into this after say and i did watch it. i thought i'm going to end up to talk about it. what did you make of what has been put out there so far? well i can only speak about royal etiquette . and there's two major royal etiquette breaches. i wouldn't actually call it royal etiquette is etiquette of everyday living , because what who wants to hang their dirty laundry for the

whole world to see? no one. everyone likes to . their private everyone likes to. their private life. private. that's it's called private life. another breach would be this never , breach would be this never, never explain . first coined by never explain. first coined by abraham . sorry. abraham abraham. sorry. abraham disraeli. benjamin benjamin disraeli. benjamin benjamin disraeli. yes during the victoria era. and it's it sounds rather archaic, but if you think about it, there is timeless wisdom . because if i were to wisdom. because if i were to come up to and start and, greet, greet you and then start whining and complaining and saying, oh, you don't know what my life is like, it's terrible and everyone's treating me badly and that you become a victim and you become very selfish . emma, are become very selfish. emma, are we should be held to that kind of etiquette. how do you make and give them. well hypothetically, at least have stepped away from firm. are they still bound by the don't expect

i think more as you said it's genuine etiquette and i, i can't stand it . i see people on social stand it. i see people on social oversharing and sharing their personal life and complaining about and you just think that's support that's your private life that's and i just think what they're doing so disrespectful and that's not that's not just a royal thing it is the for his family i mean the queen hasn't even been dead three months sort of their they're still grieving that family charles's his mom and they go on about you know they talk diana and as mum you hang on a minute you've got a whole family here grieving their mum and just the boy i just it the clips i haven't seen it because i just can't bring myself to watch it but you know i've seen the trailer clips and that's enough for me, one to want to vomit quite. frankly, tom i find anthropologically fascinating . i do, what? fascinating. i do, too. what? i'm not anthropology . yes, i'm not an anthropology. yes, nor but know that kind of

nor am i. but know that kind of kind of people watching and watching what's going on in people's heads. and i was in terms of the first episode, the fact started these fact that they started these video talking video diaries. yes. talking sadly into the phones of, well , sadly into the phones of, well, you know, ostensibly . right, you know, ostensibly. right, right. back at the beginning , you know, ostensibly. right, right. back at the beginning, as soon as he stepped away from the royal duties, they must have been thinking there's a buck to been thinking there's a buck to be made here and we better start putting down groundwork. putting down the groundwork. well, key, isn't it? well, that's the key, isn't it? i you is not as it i mean, you is not as it netflix. you also see very on in the by—line it's arch well productions you know this is production, isn't reality production, this isn't reality tv. this isn't even a serious document . this is a couple who document. this is a couple who until they made the decision to in it, in a sense quit the royal family. they made decision to come off the civil less , which, come off the civil less, which, of course, we as taxpayers pay into that list in to pay for their every need in terms of their every need in terms of their security, to pay for their to pay for their welfare in return, for a part of an institution that's a thousand years old. but in modern times, it's been a institution that's

about public service. now, what find fascinating about the whole thing in terms of what's really going on is that meghan clearly didn't know what she was marrying into. i think it's clear when you even at her, well, you know how could you know what exactly. but it's clear it's clear to me that she felt she marrying into some disney princess fairytale. even this throwaway line about, oh, there was no manual, there was no protocol like you see in the movies . i mean, i do think that movies. i mean, i do think that raises questions actually for the institution the firm as call it in terms of how we do bring, you know, people into the royal family but it's ultimately me. it's a whole narcissistic episode. and that's what's also quite fascinating from a from etiquette point of view , how etiquette point of view, how much of this the family to put up with , you know, do they have up with, you know, do they have in terms of don't complain don't explain is that is there a statute of limitations on that are they just supposed to absorb

attacks on character without response . well they have response. well they have responded in a way. it's been very it's been full of empathy and conciliatory . they haven't and conciliatory. they haven't come back with an because that way would be putting themselves on same level as meghan and harry it has for a retort to be poignant has be short to the point and conciliatory and. i think they've done that very . do think they've done that very. do you think that's that there must surely be a shelf life in what meghan and harry are doing? yes you know, they've stepped away and this is presumably the video they kept for a couple of years before going to netflix on netflix, coming to them . you netflix, coming to them. you can't keep reheating this or can you? well, i think they're finished in a way. people aren't stupid . they know what's going stupid. they know what's going on and it's pretty. so i stupid. they know what's going on and it's pretty . so i after on and it's pretty. so i after this, they will really well, they should . leading a private ,

they should. leading a private, quiet life. i don't have an opfion quiet life. i don't have an option because they weren't going to any other office or anything so. we're not encouraged to think that they actually go over rather well in america the that they're american passive. well what i'm saying actually been saying having have actually been quite anti it and said this is sort of just air this isn't there's nothing exciting in it when actually watch you want when you actually watch you want to it and think it's going to try it and think it's going to try it and think it's going to be gripping with them when you watch and full away. so you watch it and full away. so there's there's big there's nothing there's no big revelations it's revelations and some of it's either diary if it works in netflix and is the response has been a bit of a flop and already we would have been hearing about a sequel if it was if it was taking well then they would hear now that the possibility of it's going to carry on and i just think is it's going to it's going to run it's in the moment just because of that of wondering you the hype around that and then that's it i think it's going to fall flat in size i mean i've been around documentary television of a sort

for a long time and i can attend to watch television and in a different way. and it looked very contrived to me, you know, the set up , you know, things the set up, you know, things were supposed look hoc and were supposed to look hoc and spontaneous , absolutely nothing spontaneous, absolutely nothing like that. to they looked set up styled , staged. yeah. even styled, staged. yeah. even there's a scene where they're just driving along. i think it's in toronto and they're talking about the paps that are following behind . you know, following behind. but you know, you see the paps you never actually see the paps that following behind you that are following behind you just looking just harry's are looking nervously shoulder and nervously over his shoulder and you she's in the with you know, she's in the car with her sunglasses is on it it does look very, very contrived and i think to try and get this message across to audience, i think this is what they're intending , that these people are intending, that these people are innocent victims of celebrity culture. there's obviously the underpinning narrative as well. certainly of the first couple of episodes i watched, this all harks back to the way in which harry and william's mother treated, you know, she was hounded by the press to a death in many ways. so there's that

element . but this in many ways. so there's that element. but this is all in many ways. so there's that element . but this is all about, element. but this is all about, i think, seeking and trying to seek empathy and forgiveness from us. the british, for them deciding to turn their back on the royal institution. laura do you think about the way meghan makes fun of the british, you know , she seems to have an know, she seems to have an endless stock trade about, you know, how were unemotional and all and yes but that has to do with culture, doesn't it? we're huggers, or at least not in the beginning. we need time to know people. and that's because where we love to keep very respectful of people's privacy and. so we're not sort of very forceful . i have i hug everyone on the hook, but a lot of people i know a lot of that. i grew up abroad. i've gone. yes, yes. that helped. so it's. yeah, but not have not everybody is like that. and politeness is subjective. what is polite in our culture is . we may not be polite in another . so yeah,

. we may not be polite in another. so yeah, we're seeing what is known what just want to draw reference actually what's been going on with hancock and that affair is we are that whole affair is we are seeing increasing i think these these so—called public servants , public who you know , public figures who you know for whatever reason fall into a calamity but then seek to leverage that public service that they've been able to serve at our gift as it were and make obscene amounts of money out of it. you know we saw this with matt hancock ring it. you know we saw this with matt hancock rin g £400,000 to go matt hancock ring £400,000 to go off into the jungle. i think we're going to see it now with arch well productions i'm contractually that we've seen the last of them that this is just the one off make or break documentary think who do you think that intended audiences laura you know given that you know the british people know the, the british people presumably like the presumably wouldn't like the running ness about the running snide ness about the british way and the way the british way and the way the british press doesn't feel as if it's been made for a consumption. is it just is it just an american confection ? who

just an american confection? who else who's to watch it? well, i think the whole world will watch it. but i mean, i would i've seen it. i've seen all i need to say. i just wanted to see it. i just to see the shape and the outline of it. it probably is targeted at americans. she lives in america. she american, and therefore thinks she has the right to make fun of us. but there'll be other cultures probably will think that she's completely out of order because their culture may be similar to their culture may be similar to the culture that really , really the culture that really, really depends.i the culture that really, really depends. i think it's just that. i think it's just sad statement of where we are and across a broad range of you , the social broad range of you, the social spectrum the moment i think it's just a sad , sad, very spectacle just a sad, sad, very spectacle . a lot of windsor royal etiquette expert. thank you very much. thank you . i have to go to much. thank you. i have to go to another break now after mariah carey is back at number one in the charts. once again, we'll discuss enduring popularity of a festive favourite and see which christmas tunes send my

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been done single day for the three years prior to that. but this the first time that it's been done, there's no way to it away. there's a huge in terms of the positions that we run in in singapore . and it becomes very

singapore. and it becomes very much fight or flight. so i'm in singapore i that i'm going to be punished quite excessively in singapore i don't know quite what that's going to be . and i what that's going to be. and i tried to get away from singapore and to a location where i start to work that out and to a location where i start ukip conference and. people wanted to, you know , they with wanted to, you know, they with the brochure and they wanted me to autograph their brochures and they wanted to autograph my brochure and it was, it would quite a stir actually. it caused the star and it was a big story

for both of you i'm godfrey i'm the star and it was a big story welcome back . and finally , all i welcome back. and finally, all i want for christmas is . a bit of want for christmas is. a bit of peace and quiet, actually . but peace and quiet, actually. but for millions out there, it appears christmas isn't christmas with a bit mariah carey, her omnipresent christmas standard . all i want for standard. all i want for christmas is you . released in christmas is you. released in 1994 a number one first time around in 2020. not surprised me. i thought it would be number much earlier has topped the charts once more after being streamed 10.8 million times, even taylor swift off top spot . even taylor swift off top spot. it's back in the news. so i suppose we ought to have a quick listen .

listen. i'm all for it. i'm all for a christmas song. i'm all for everything . do with christmas. everything. do with christmas. really? well, whatever people confident it. i think we have my final guest as showbiz commentator sarah robinson and she is roberts. and she's here to tell us what it is about carey that her coming back and back and back . hi, danny. good back and back. hi, danny. good evening to you. well, mariah , evening to you. well, mariah, the undisputed, unofficial queen of christmas . once mariah of christmas. once mariah officially that christmas is upon us . that's when you know upon us. that's when you know the christmas spirit is here. she just has inherited or created this moniker for herself . i think it's because of this song, because it is just universally loved by all. you're a child of the eighties . do you a child of the eighties. do you really, really just adore this song and appreciate it. really, really just adore this song and appreciate it . and i song and appreciate it. and i think as well it universal appeal and why it's such a

christmas chestnut and such a universally popular song because it has word you in it it gives you the sort sense of eternal optimism that just brings unheralded joy . everyone just unheralded joy. everyone just joins it. it feels it feels very past all a song. and i think why it's just has this really reception in just universally loved and sung ages in popularity every festive season it's always once you hear you know the opening bit to it that is start of christmas. christmas is start of christmas. christmas is upon once you get, you know, the festive season is beginning i'm fascinated with the fact it's almost it almost retrospectively made career into a one hit wonder you know whole that whole the you know , that whole the you know, catalogue of work and yet the constant playing of , that song constant playing of, that song is almost as if it's the only song she ever sang sang . no, i song she ever sang sang. no, i just agree with that because i think true mariah fans she she

has a repertoire of and her voice is just one of the best we've ever had . modern music, i we've ever had. modern music, i think just the popularity of the song mariah does not complain at all. she loves it christmas for her is such a special time. i mean, she's spoken herself and her past. she had quite a hard start , quite a difficult start, quite a difficult upbringing. and have christmas is a very important time if she wants to sort of create childlike joy wonder that she missed on so she likes that people associate her with christmas she she lives up to it you know that's how people see her she is this bit of a i don't want to say the word diva because that's not a phantom , because that's not a phantom, because that's not a phantom, because i just adore her. but just associate her with with christmas. and i know big extravagant just as she says herself just for christmas and a house she goes out to make a thing for her family and i love that i think that's wonderful so

i don't she minds that people associate in that way but i think true fans of mariah music fans know she she is more than that but the other thing as she's not going to dispute and i'm sure she's very happy with the songs generate tape $5 million every year once it starts by no amount of is nine in all the only talk of 59 minutes to pay right to in all the only talk of 59 minutes to pay right t 0 £5 minutes to pay right to £5 million. wow i don't suppose i really need to ask them imagining this as you are favourite christmas song of. all christmas songs . would that be christmas songs. would that be true ? mariah herself? no yours. true? mariah herself? no yours. your own favourite christmas . i your own favourite christmas. i say . i think your own favourite christmas. i say. i think mariah your own favourite christmas. i say . i think mariah probably say. i think mariah probably would be that actually. i mean i, i like my traditional carols i, i like my traditional carols ihave i, i like my traditional carols i have to say. so first and foremost, i'm always going to pick a traditional carols . but pick a traditional carols. but if i were to pick a modern piece

of music, i would say. if i were to pick a modern piece of music, i would say . yeah, of music, i would say. yeah, because i'm a child of the eighties so it would be it would it would be mariah carey. eighties so it would be it would it would be mariah carey . as it would be mariah carey. as soon as i hear i just get the festive christmas spirit upon . festive christmas spirit upon. may i have to be loyal to mariah and i've been fortunate enough to see her concert at the o2 academy ago? and it was winter time and where she sang that song, the crowd erupted , just song, the crowd erupted, just went wild and she loved it. she came out in the red and everything and you can see she she just adores it. she loves the reception and how universally loved it is. so i don't think mariah mindset will be associated with son. who would it be just. i would not love to have to be number one twice with the song your passion for mariah and that song kind of icannot for mariah and that song kind of i cannot argue with it's lovely to hear love it to see so thank you sarah robertson for joining us this evening lovely stuff emma where are you on christmas is there something that your

soul this time of year you know , i'm a bit of a cause. i started beginning of november with heart christmas and i. i just relate to this the songs christmas carol and songs just me that this christmas always get to you early on is it is it i refuse to buy presents anything until later i don't do that in november but i just had the music on in the car because i just needed that. yeah, i think driving for christmas. chris yeah , i love that . that chris yeah, i love that. that sort of feelgood that is , it's sort of feelgood that is, it's a really good song. but then i've got on it. but at the moment i'm in the middle of nativity with three little kids. they're all doing definitive things. i've doing definitive things. so i've got technique that it's got that technique that it's described we're trying described nativity. we're trying to which one is doing to work out which one is doing what, and they what, and then they will be modernise. just modernise. so i'm like, ijust want a classic nativity play. and who's playing? mary in it? but it sort of is no, not mary and joseph. so again, now i've got of songs i'm got sort of songs like i'm riding donkey bumper bum riding on the donkey bumper bum bum . i'm going round and bum bum bum. i'm going round and round my head 24 seven at the

moment christmas song . oh, moment christmas song. oh, christmas song. i mean there's a couple i mean one that probably wouldn't pass the offence archaeology that's the archaeology test and that's the pogues in the classic tale of not from new york again senator you know why do we listen to music it's because it brings out emotion connection and that's what christmas is all about and that's what makes it so special. so, you know, i've played that song endless times every single christmas . there song endless times every single christmas. there is a song endless times every single christmas . there is a lyrical christmas. there is a lyrical genius about the it's so you don't always expect a christmas song to tell a story. yeah. fairytale of new york. absolutely does. it does yeah. but not played on radio to bbc outlets i'm told because of some comments , you know, seem to be comments, you know, seem to be beyond pale. and you said that was one of two. it was one of two. what does it look, sarah? i'm also. yeah, i've got a bit or a very common one. it's like sarah mean i'm also a child of the eighties, so i still remember fondly, perhaps not so fondly those school discos wham!

and last christmas , careless and last christmas, careless whispers . and the heartbreak of whispers. and the heartbreak of that time. yeah. so yes, when i hear that song on the radio, i think back to some of those failed romances, i feel as i get older , become more and more older, become more and more sentimental about all of it. i know it. white christmas bing crosby and all of that you know that i fought against it for most of my adult life and a process of attrition i've just given in and those know what white christmas like little drummer so i don't know oh that's all from on neil oliver live tonight my . thanks as live tonight my. thanks as always to my panel and to tom. thank you all. my guest this evening. next up, it's . looking evening. next up, it's. looking ahead to this evening's weather and the is looking cold but may dry with some showers for . dry with some showers for. northern and western coast . northern and western coast. let's take a look at the details across southwest england. showers ease for many inland, but will continue for northern

coasts of devon , cornwall, and coasts of devon, cornwall, and may turn wintry places. a cold evening with a widespread frost . a mostly dry evening for southeast england, though maybe the odd shower for far southern cold with a chance freezing fog in places too southern wales showers will continue around the coast, though any further inland may be wintry staying cold again with a frosty night to come across the midlands and, mostly dry evening to come , maybe just dry evening to come, maybe just the odd shower that may turn wintry over any higher ground cold once again with some freezing fog developing in places the north—east england. it will be a dry end to saturday though, and we may see the odd light shower for coasts . some light shower for coasts. some mist or freezing fog developing through the evening and feeling showers will persist across southern scotland this evening and overnight, some of which be of snow over high and a mix of rain and snow to lower levels. a

widely dry evening across northern ireland with clear spells developing a chance of the odd shower, mainly in the north—east later, which could be wintry over high ground. the cold frosty night with some patches of freezing showers, some wintry continues for northern and western coast . and northern and western coast. and that's how the weather's shaping up overnight tomorrow morning .

to work that out. you know, some people a question i often get asked is, was there a sense of relief when you got caught and, you know , i think the you know, you know, i think the you know, the usual answer that people would give is that, yes, there was there was always another battle that you for both of you i'm godfrey i'm to reserve judgement but would like to offer