this hey, welcome along to monday's edition of the mark steyn show. and for those of you who sat through those gruelling 3 hours from three till 6 pm, but simply have not quite enough of me worry, not for i am back to fill in for the great matt mark steyn himself . remember the steyn himself. remember the trojan horse affair .7 that trojan horse affair? that controversy surrounding islamism , schools? well, michael , british schools? well, michael gove has come out all guns blazing in a new policy exchange, rapport which challenges the narratives , but challenges the narratives, but which basically go along the likes of the brit bashing new york times. i mean absolute classic , isn't it, man? tuesday

classic, isn't it, man? tuesday is for in the i sound. when will we learn the lessons of rotherham rochdale oldham telford. i could go on the list does go on forever. gb news is very own charlie peters joins us to share the latest controversial decision from the labour party on. yes in case you're wondering, it does involve grooming gangs. plus we take a deep dive very much needed deep dive into ngozi fulani charity sisters face as calls for the charity commission to investigate emerge from an onune to investigate emerge from an online investigation. andy now will be here for the article. don't forget, you'll have your chance to pummel the patrick. mm hmm. yeah. and i just have to take it for the many of you who tried this last time . i promise tried this last time. i promise you, i'll do a few more this time around. gbs gb news uk. but first let's get the latest. had no one appalling middle mid—last. first let's get the latest. had no one appalling middle mid—last . pa no one appalling middle mid—last. pa evening to you nurse is are set

to go on strike from thursday after talks between the union and the health secretary failed this evening the roll college of nursing chief claims steve barclay refused to discuss pay with her. pat cullen has said she explained to ministers, nurses needed a serious offer to call off the industrial action, but that regrettably they're now not getting an extra penny. that's after mr. barclay insisted last week that he was willing to negotiate and rail strikes will also go ahead this week after members of the rmt union rejected their latest pay offer , 63% of the union's offer, 63% of the union's members turned down a deal offer by network rail of a 5% pay rise this year and a 4% rise in 2023. and mp oliver dowden says all strikes should be called off . i strikes should be called off. i think it's only fair and reasonable that at a when people are struggling both with the consequence of the situation in russia, ukraine as we emerge from covid and indeed this

winter weather, i don't think most people it's fair and reasonable to undertake these strikes. so my message to them would be even now, please call them off. well, in news from the channel islands police have seven people still missing following an explosion at a block of flats in jersey over the weekend . they are peter the weekend. they are peter bowler , raymond brown and luis bowler, raymond brown and luis almeida . derek and sylvia ellis almeida. derek and sylvia ellis and billy marsden , the jersey and billy marsden, the jersey police chief, said their families agreed to their names being released, adding other missing islanders will be named at a later date . five are at a later date. five are confirmed to have died in the blast. people gathered for a minute's silence this morning and the jersey government said flags ought to be flown at half mast until the 23rd of december . or mast until the 23rd of december. or news today has been the tragedy of three boys who died after falling through an icy lake in solihull yesterday. police say the children who were eight, ten

and ii the children who were eight, ten and 11 years old were in cardiac arrest when they were pulled from the icy water in kingshurst, a force little boy , kingshurst, a force little boy, aged six, remains in a critical condition in hospital . condition in hospital. meanwhile, yellow warnings for snow and ice are still in place for much of the uk as conditions continue to cause widespread travel, disrupt and those warnings will remain in place until 10:00 tomorrow morning. last night was the coldest night of the year so far, reaching below —15 degrees in aberdeenshire . however, most of aberdeenshire. however, most of the difficulties caused by plummeting temperatures have been felt in the east and the south of england. there are still significant delays across and rail networks with southeastern trains advising passengers not travel at all. you up to date on tv , online and you up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio with gb news. and now it's time. not for mark steyn, but .

steyn, but. patrick what is the definition of islamophobia ? it is the dislike islamophobia? it is the dislike or prejudice against islam. all muslims , especially as a muslims, especially as a political force . it's pretty political force. it's pretty easy, not to be islamophobic. just don't be really. just don't be a massive racist . but it just don't be really. just don't be a massive racist. but it is the fear of being called islamophobic that stops people from discussing certain issues that happen to at times involve the muslim community. and when this fear of being called islamophobic infiltrates politics, the education system and law enforcement, politics, the education system and law enforcement , then it and law enforcement, then it becomes a massive problem. but one a society. let's take two big issues extremely ideology being taught to children in schools and grooming gangs. being taught to children in schools and grooming gangs . just schools and grooming gangs. just today, michael gove said that britain has a problem with islamist extremists trying to indoctrinate kids with their warped ideology . in 2014, that warped ideology. in 2014, that was the trojan horse scandal. to hear alarm . former chairman of hear alarm. former chairman of the parkview educational trust, which runs three schools in birmingham, was alleged to have

written a 72 page document for the muslim council of britain in two thousand and seven, detailing a blooper and for the islamization of secular state schools . a report into this schools. a report into this allegedly found the imposition of segregated the reduction of un—islamic subjects like biology. by the way , and the biology. by the way, and the promotion of children to extremist views . but ever since extremist views. but ever since then , there has been a concerted then, there has been a concerted effort to play down the problem, to label anyone who dares suggest that there is an issue with islamist radicals in schools. attempted schools. all attempted radicalised kids is just a frothing racist and an attempt to rewrite history. as the new york times did by calling it, you guessed it, an islamophobe , you guessed it, an islamophobe, a big hoax. i'm going to quote michael gove now because i think he says it best. the notion that the events in birmingham had nothing to do with extremism is his dangerous as it is false , his dangerous as it is false, since it conceals an ugly truth that too many prefer not to acknowledge . we have a problem acknowledge. we have a problem in britain with islamist ideology and its adherents who

seek to impose their intolerant values . muslim communities, values. muslim communities, including through including children through non—violent including the non—violent means, including the capture of important institutions such as schools. the fear of being branded islamophobic has only made it more difficult to speak up about such extremism. islamophobe phobia is a problem , but so is phobia is a problem, but so is the unnecessary fear of being labelled islamophobic . and it labelled islamophobic. and it shouldn't exist because as long as you're not actually being islamophobic , then people should islamophobic, then people should have the bottle to speak out about. what they can see is . i about. what they can see is. i am sick and tired of people using the racism label to block discussion and debate and in some cases to hide acts of criminality like , grooming criminality like, grooming gangs, grooming gangs are left to rape their way across britain , seemingly because police forces were more concerned about being called racist than they were about stopping the scale gang rape of mostly class white girls. by mostly british pakistani or south asian men . pakistani or south asian men. don't just take my word for it .

don't just take my word for it. take the findings of the independent into child sexual abuse. in fact , report found the abuse. in fact, report found the fight against grooming gangs is still being hampered by fears of being called racist . and the being called racist. and the report also found that abuse is still happening in all parts of england and wales. so here we have the prime example of a very real problem being identified with that being widespread grooming gangs of mostly british pakistani men and a lack of a desire to deal that problem because of fears of being called racist . well, here's another racist. well, here's another one.the racist. well, here's another one. the child of crisis people can see the drain of resources that this is causing. people can see the fact that many of these are not genuine asylum seekers. and yet people don't want to talk about it because they're afraid of being called racist. there's nothing racist about a genuine concern . having genuine concern. having a genuine concern. having a genuine concern. having a genuine concern . britain may not genuine concern. britain may not have the infrastructure to cope with the sheer number of people coming across their small boats or not wanting your local village hotel to commandeered village hotel to be commandeered and, house people who

and, used to house people who may about be told that may be about to be told that they'll deport it. these are they'll be deport it. these are legitimate concerns that people are afraid raising with their are afraid of raising with their friends or their colleagues for fear called racist . fear of being called racist. something has gone seriously wrong somewhere along the way because currently live in a country where people willing to turn a blind to. eye islamist extremism in schools and simply tries to pretend it never happened. tries to pretend it never happened . actually, where police happened. actually, where police were to bring a serial were afraid to bring a serial child rapist . just as an child rapist. just as an ordinary people don't speak up about security concerns in their own back yard because they are scared of being a bigot . the scared of being a bigot. the fear of being called islamophobic or racist is used to stop dealing with problems that they see in society . the that they see in society. the irony is, of course that if those problems remain , it may those problems remain, it may actually to more genuine and racism in the long run . well, racism in the long run. well, there we go . we've got loads there we go. we've got loads coming up on all of this and is just a staff tranquiliser.

gentlemen very pleased to be joined by mahyar tousi lee, who will be with very, very will be with you very, very shortly, way. there we shortly, by the way. there we go. what were your views on go. but what were your views on this gbviews@gbnews.uk i've made mine it mine fundamentally clear. it it's only issue i'm it's not the only issue that i'm going discussing that i going to be discussing that i think a bit more think warrants a little bit more investigation. terms the investigation. terms of the ngozi particularly ngozi fulani, yes, particularly due to get a member of the royal household sacked or at least pushed for a while anyway . well, pushed for a while anyway. well, i remember thinking at the time there's something quite there's something not quite right this. i know a right about this. as i know a lot you did, there was lot of you did, and there was a fabulous online that took place in soho. we're going to be discussing all that discussing all of that later potentially, maybe, just maybe, all quite as it seems all is not quite as it seems when it to one goes. if when it comes to one goes. if melanie herself or indeed whatever that she may be whatever name that she may be using and as the charity sisters, we have sisters, because we have approached space for approached sister space for comment, we have approached the charities commission for comment. so we're to be discussing of make sure discussing all of make sure you've got those years coming and gives gb news dot you i'm going to be talking a about those issues that i've outlined . i do understand that many he is now actually here which is good stuff. better late than

neverin good stuff. better late than never in a way, whether that's not your fault, of course, men, thank you very much. this is a massively, massively important issue. that can issue. and i'm glad that we can now because gove now have this chat because gove made very pertinent point made the very pertinent point that appears not only that it appears that not only was the extent of the islamist extremist infiltrate of our education system potentially deau education system potentially dealt with at the time, but it is also still a concern to attempt to cover up the fact that it ever happened at all. as i know i. mean, that's the key point. and in your monologue, you you talked about the word islamophobia and people like christopher hitchens started warning this to towards the warning this to us towards the end of the day, too late. 2000s about the fact that certain like islamophobia are going to be created and they're going to be used to shut down debate as . used to shut down debate as. well, as to in a hidden way promote the dark side of the ideal and the any of you say anything bad it then you're in trouble. you've already mentioned that important issues there comes to you know there when it comes to you know

there when it comes to you know the scandals of 20 1415 and everything else it goes beyond that it goes beyond just the infiltration to push for the ideology because it exposes the nofion ideology because it exposes the notion that those people would say every single who comes from the middle east or north africa and running away from extremism so they want to come here but if that were the case, then why would they? and again some of them come here to actually still promote the ideology, but again, not just promote. they are implementing things . implementing certain things. shana implementing certain things. sharia courts like forced marriages inside the united kingdom remain scandalously going on. and that's the biggest problem . yeah. we're going to be problem. yeah. we're going to be discussing a little bit later on, actually, with our very own charlie peters, really charlie peters, a really concerning issue which involves the labour party and grooming guysis the labour party and grooming guys is not the first time that we've ever heard of. certainly won't last we have a won't be the last time we have a say. unfortunately as when say. unfortunately as well when it comes to policy on it comes to labour policy on that this issue. now that mayor, on this issue. now i'm to down and get i'm keen to drill down and get your views. do think that your views. do you think that

people islamophobic or people the term islamophobic or racist as a way of actually covering things up, frankly, stopping discuss? stopping people to discuss? yeah. shut down debate yeah. i mean to shut down debate but the same time to turn but at the same time to turn a blind eye, the actual risks they the ones are mostly pushing for this. and this is a narrative they know, oh, you're islamophobic, your race is you this and some of them are actually they're useful idiots. and from that the liberal left bnngs and from that the liberal left brings light and some know exactly what they're doing. the hard ideology, whatever you want to call cultural marxism or whatever they are all leftists. they've been doing it for years. they've been doing it for years. they are being also utilising any marginalised groups. they create marginalised groups basically they don't really like islamism, but are using and they're turning a blind eye to they're turning a blind eye to the dangers of islamism as long as it brings down the western society. and i think the phrase useful idiots there , absolutely useful idiots there, absolutely vital as a huge utility is going around when it comes to what's happening in the channel as well. but yeah, i can't seem to get my head around really the

true extent of this because cannot be underestimated what happened what was happened in 2014 and what was revealed 2014. the revealed in 2014. the segregation of classes segregation of in classes by gender , the stopping of teaching gender, the stopping of teaching of topics that were deemed un—islamic in biology. okay. when schools libraries were as its use was raided but investigated it really, really disgusting and distasteful stuff and a 72 page dossier allegedly written to the muslim council of britain by a particular chap who was actually in charge of no less than three school trusts. that was essentially talking about the infiltration of various schools and an various different schools and an attempt to infiltrate the british education system and pump radical islamist into it. and are you afraid that this stuff is still happening? yes, i. different angles, different versions . and it proves the versions. and it proves the point that . and if you're point that. and if you're complacent as secular society or just western democracies, and you could lose your freedoms in any of so slowly, i mean, you wouldn't even know what it is. and the problem we have had for

a long time is that a lot of these, just because they happen a, lot of the useful ideas, high level of it, and then liberal friends and all the others that we it would say, oh, you're just exaggerating. nobody wants to plant the flag of islam on top of downing street only because minute were prevented last minute they were prevented last minute they were prevented last minute at someone's stop that maybe you in the intelligence community m15 on may six did something just just very last thing this, just very thing on this, matt, just very lightly on this. am concerned lightly on this. i am concerned . and that if we don't address these problems now and if they are stifled because people don't want to be called racist and people do want to be called islamophobic, that is going to lead to genuine islamophobia and genuine racism down the line. unforgivable so we know that the far right elements of it, although they're starting from a lower base, are the fastest growing group in the uk. we know and there's no justification for it whatsoever. but my concern is that unless issues like are that unless issues like this are deau that unless issues like this are dealt with . it's only going to dealt with. it's only going to breed that . are breed more of that. we are sleepwalking disaster .

sleepwalking into disaster. absolutely and because of the complacency of the establishment in places like the uk and germany and that these people need to learn from the proofread them iranians right now doing them iranians right now doing the uprising against an islamic republic . they are literally republic. they are literally doing a libertarian revolution to bring down islamism. they are against the ideology of it and islamism and they could us a lesson because this could be a wake up call the west if the iranians succeed. matt, thank you very, very much as ever. menzies political commentator it's real fascinating standalone voice when it comes this kind of stuff right coming up people the stain on this country's past and indeed unfortunate its presence as well. we'll local authorities ever learn the lessons from the grooming gangs, the plagues this country that continue to plague this country. our very own charlie here and asked charlie peters is here and asked some viewers to share with us andindeed some viewers to share with us and indeed some news as we've got all of that coming your way . we're also going to be talking .we're also going to be talking about , some .we're also going to be talking about, some would a much about, some would say, a much

needed , long overdue needed, long overdue investigation into ngozi fulani . better than i do. you cried racism at the palace don't even have any thought .

near me some years ago i can almost now i've got a daughter. i can hardly even read this story. it'sjust i can hardly even read this story. it's just absolute , story. it's just absolute, really horrific. but yes , you're really horrific. but yes, you're absolutely right. you have to stay away from them. then you have to keep. may you neil if you had any any mishaps in the that, oh, they didn't really want to take the knee. maybe they did . well, they're much they did. well, they're much more interested in taking the money, i think, than taking off. but i don't not know. that's okay. it's time for the bike

shop. we got very good . i've got shop. we got very good. i've got the case on my phone, so i can't let it actually fall. we do need. we to or our people atypically chaotic style . but you love to say we're style. but you love to say we're firing on all cylinders. the labour party, they plonk their handsin labour party, they plonk their hands in the sand yet again and the just don't seem to the doors just don't seem to connect for them. eight years after the rotherham child exploit found that exploit report found that council and police service failed, those get this 4000 miners. a member of that very same cabinet as being propped by laboun same cabinet as being propped by labour, just done them in their next general election. you could not make this up. i wish i was making it up. actually councillor dominic back. remember the nine people was part of the labour that rejected this report and at the time labour keir starmer

labour leader keir starmer restructured the crown prosecution service . the victims prosecution service. the victims from this report have been quite failed. we reached out to labour and a spokesperson said they took the necessary action at the time against officials. i'm not sure about you , but the message sure about you, but the message doesn't seem to be drumming through to those politicians. well, here this is someone who is dedicated much of his time and resources and effort to this very topic with a documentary coming out soon, investigating, grooming and not before time. broadcaster commentator charlie peters . charlie, thank you very peters. charlie, thank you very much. not just being on this show, but for the work that you're doing grooming as because this frankly by the vast majority of mainstream media will silenced or in the news will be silenced or in the news one and out the news the one day and out the news the other and we can all have the fill us in initially before we have broader discussion on have a broader discussion on what is going on what the living heck is going on with the labour party. okay so dominic back. councillor dominic back. this councillor has the next has been selected as the next candidate the labour candidate for the labour party in river seat for in the river valley seat for next general election. it's currently a tory mp has currently owned by a tory mp has

been reported by the been is being reported by the conservatives last conservatives since the last year and the labour year an election and the labour party have selected dominic back who councillor in who been a councillor in rotherham 2011. he joined rotherham since 2011. he joined the in after the the council in 2014 after the alexis jay report found that 1400 girls at a conservative estimate go to remember that's that's the bottom end of the limit yeah girls had been exploited tortured and exploited raped tortured and abused for decades now. mr. beck soon found himself actually in the labour cabinet, the council in charge as a council leader seven months before the case , seven months before the case, reports a review into the council released in february 2015. in those seven months, the case report found a culture of denial on the cabinet, refused to accept the findings of the report, which found that councillors were ignoring all of the evidence, were ignoring girls , that councillors were girls, that councillors were telling young girls that if they'd been , if they found they'd been, if they found themselves falling pregnant at themselves falling pregnant at the hands of their abusers, that they were no longer worthy, that they were no longer worthy, that the social services and the children services account. sorry, just to drill down on

that point. this the council members of the council , the members of the council, the labour council there saying that this report is essentially not worth the paper it's written on, that these or some of these 4000 child victims who suffered the most horrific abuse at hands of a grooming gang were just costs. they were totally cast aside. and then an extraordinary quote that out during this period between the original report that found the abuse and the casey report, which exposed the council's failure found that plenty of the cabinet stood up and said that they were lies of the murdoch press we know the murdoch press. we now know that absolutely the that they were absolutely the truth. now there's no suggestion that dominic back this that that dominic back this would candidate would be labour candidate was involved much of the cover up involved in much of the cover up but we do know for sure that dominic back stood by said nothing silent has never nothing was silent has never apologised has never stood up and been counted, has never rich himself of this moment because to turn around to these girls and say that their claims are lies the times . other lies at the times. other newspapers girls were

newspapers these girls were making up. their is making up. their abuse is a shocking and shameful thing. and if have been that if people have been doing that and i would and my workplace, i would certainly to say that's unacceptable . quit, i resign. unacceptable. quit, i resign. but dominic beck did nothing . but dominic beck did nothing. the have passed. he's the years have passed. he's continued campaign of silence and now chance to labour and now have a chance to labour in parliament. important in parliament. it's an important point distinction, is point of distinction, which is that he actually help try to that he actually help to try to cover this up. or did he simply stumbles? i simply really stumbled . he stood by. it's stumbled. he stood by. it's clear that he stood, but councillors have been involved in this cover up for absolute . in this cover up for absolute. we know in 2005 for example there was a seminar into child sexual exploitation which a home office researcher to rotherham borough council no longer. they say that they didn't know members of that meeting who attended that day in 2005 are still serving in the council, are still in are still in the cabinet clash . i can make it cabinet clash. i can make it make an introduction. i'm on camera eight members of that cabinet who are still serving okay the pot is boiling and the lid is beginning to chatter. we are coming for you . not even the

are coming for you. not even the fastest cannot run truth . fastest cannot run the truth. and we that those meetings and we know that those meetings and we know that you've ignored all the warnings all these all the warnings for all these years you've escaped years and you've escaped attention media. but attention from the media. but that coming a close very that is coming to a close very soon powerful stuff . absolutely soon powerful stuff. absolutely powerful say, powerful stuff. and i must say, i brought goosebumps me, i brought goosebumps to me, unfortunately wrong unfortunately for the wrong reasons sentence, but reasons in that sentence, but seriously stuff. i seriously powerful stuff. and i don't about but i'm don't know about you, but i'm sick tired of hearing police sick and tired of hearing police force police force or force up to police force or inquiry . force up to police force or inquiry. inquiry just force up to police force or inquiry . inquiry just basically inquiry. inquiry just basically skirts around a massive issue, which is the were too afraid of being called racists or islamophobia back to actually tackle it. and for me there's a clear distinction has made here time and time again take your pick throw a dance at the map of britain and you will a great quy- britain and you will a great guy. and that distinction has been this, which is that police would rather the of would rather have the abuse of an industrial scale of mostly vulnerable young working class white as opposed white girls as opposed to running even the slightest risk that despite all the evidence about who a lot of these perpetrators were, that they might be called a racist. and it's going today.

it's still going on today. i mean, the judge on the case reports into rotherham just reports into rotherham and just brother found brother in particular found instances council leaders instances where council leaders were refer to grooming were told to refer to grooming gangs as men of a certain ethnicity , engaged in a certain ethnicity, engaged in a certain occupation , not as a verbatim occupation, not as a verbatim quote from the j reports. one quote from thej reports. one home office researcher who brought her to rotherham borough council describing patterns of abuse among predominantly pakistani men, was told to never mention it again. and get this she was booked a two day a out and diversity course. and this is this is stuff that's not in the national conversation but this has been going for on decades that that incident i just referred to in 2004. and there's still hasn't been justice that the justice for that woman. the still been taking still hasn't been anyone taking responsibility sitting responsibility. we are sitting here in 2022 talking about over two decades of abuse. my body has been for it. why not, in your view was going to get your view was i'm going to get your view was i'm going to get you in the end anyway you to finish in the end anyway with a little bit of a preview about what we can expect to hean about what we can expect to hear, the nation can hear, what the nation can expect. in view , expect. but why, in your view, is an endemic problem is this such an endemic problem that repeatedly fails to get

deau that repeatedly fails to get dealt ? are major dealt? there are two major issues, i firstly the issues, i think. firstly the victims themselves , survivors, victims themselves, survivors, they're often the white working class girls . on average, that's class girls. on average, that's generally the case . but the view generally the case. but the view of the authorities trusted to care these girls is often they're they're underclass they're they're underclass they're not worthy of anything. one police officer in rochdale in greater manchester. i have a verbatim quote from a trusted source who told me that they were describing these victims as girls who would not amount to anything in society. and it was better it was better off that they would drowned at birth. this police officer in this is a police officer in greater manchester. the girls are treated as just trash unworthy . they were considered unworthy. they were considered in quote from case report in his quote from case report that were making that they were making a lifestyle choice. this their lifestyle choice. this was their choice. was if it's a choice. that was if it's a lifestyle that was to be systematically gang. so, yes, an older asian were passed as older asian were passed off as a fashion. these are verbatim quotes from the reports. nobody has been punished . and the has been punished. and the second second reason second thing, the second reason why for on long why this has gone for on long is, you've already mentioned is, as you've already mentioned , of ethnicity.

, is the issue of ethnicity. this people very, very this makes people very, very nervous. have a very nervous. we have had a very successful decades long political correctness industry , political correctness industry, which is worked up into such a threat that anybody even of standing up for girls, they are pushed into silence. they find themselves being very nervous, even some of the bravest , even some of the bravest, bolded, boldest people i've spoken across the country rotherham, rochdale and beyond. all very still. i really wonder . and this is a really terrifying thing to say, and i hope that people take in the right way because this has been not dealt with. you have a rise of different, let's be honest, mostly working class communities. i can't help but wonder only way wonder that the only way depressingly the agreement depressingly, that the agreement gang nation will gang issue as a nation will be deau gang issue as a nation will be dealt is if something dealt with is if something happens. like upper happens. some kind of like upper class girls, only boarding school or something when it affects elite. i think affects the elite. i think that's when we'll start to see people taking this very, very seriously, course, would seriously, of course, we would never anything that. never wish anything like that. i'm i think i fear i'm just saying, i think i fear that's the way we'll get that's the only way we'll get deau that's the only way we'll get dealt now, you been dealt with. now, you been working us right working diligently for us right

here to produce here at gb news to produce something that i think going something that i think is going to important . what to be immensely important. what is been producing is it? i've been producing documentary on the national grooming gangs scandal. i've been working it for over been working on it for over a year now and i am focusing on three areas. rotherham pinnacle, really. equally really. rochdale equally scandalous. and then telford now only rotherham and telford . but only rotherham and telford. but reports into the situation the but we've identified up to 48 other towns and cities across the country where there have been credible reports of grooming gangs. myself and my team of gb news, we've been to many them. so we've been many of them. so we've been meeting with survivors and people involved , i think people who are involved, i think in cover up and the mission, in the cover up and the mission, the organising principle of this documentary is to start national conversation, which we never really had when the scandal appeared and hopefully we can finally some justice to those who need it. charlie page, thank you very much . it won't you very, very much. it won't just be me thanking you as well. i when this is released. i expect, when this is released. right. contact the right. okay we did contact the labour naturally and labour party naturally and a labour party naturally and a labour party naturally and a labour party spokesperson said the party takes the the labour party takes the findings the jay and casey

findings of the jay and casey reports incredibly seriously. the took necessary action at the nsc took necessary action at the time officials implicated and that was our response. okay coming up, the royal row rumbles . we will be talking harry meghan's part to trailer. expect more royal thunder announce , more royal thunder announce, right. cultural shaming . royal right. cultural shaming. royal commentator and biographer angela levin will be diving into this unending now is here to help us understand the confusion john and then penny was rather a lot of confusion, wasn't there, surrounding the royal rabble rouser ngozi fulani. you will not to miss that. i'll be back in a sec.

you had any any mishaps in the cold weather as a child. no, but i did fall into a river once, so that wasn't frozen. and i suppose i could have drowned . suppose i could have drowned. yeah, i did manage to send you swim. let well, i couldn't then

that i swim. let well, i couldn't then thati can swim. let well, i couldn't then that i can not. but i'm afraid these things do happen. that i can not. but i'm afraid need. we need it at some point. we need to bring a microphone. it there you go. that will do it. look, folks, we do have lots more to get through in the program. i'm looking forward to my conversation with tim farron next. he's the former leader of the lib dems. he'll talk about his political journey, what the lib dems could do aof a of things don't add up about the ngozi fulani story . they she the ngozi fulani story. they she was born marlene hadley, but she's changed her name more

times than i've had. hot dennis . despite objecting so publicly to being asked about her origin , she doesn't exactly make it too clear , does she? ngozi too clear, does she? ngozi fulani a name that may sound all very diverse and modern fulani a name that may sound all very diverse and modem to the casual observer , it's actually a casual observer, it's actually a mish mash, apparently. apparently of two distinct african groups, some would say . african groups, some would say. that's cultural appropriation . that's cultural appropriation. it's at least possibly a little bit distasteful, aside from unashamed bleep ruining the reputation of the 83 year old woman named dedicated her entire to service of this great country , questions are now starting to be asked of the charity that ngozi fulani was a part of and the rather generous salary she may have paid herself . one man may have paid herself. one man who knows the danger of such racial politics in the states is journalist well, famous journalist well, famous journalist andino, and i'm very pleased to say here he is. you just got a cheeky glimpse before ieven just got a cheeky glimpse before i even got the chance to actually introducing that. and look, thank you very much for coming now have gone. coming here. now we have gone. it's important me to say

it's important for me to say we have gone to fulani on have gone to ngozi fulani on charity space. we've also charity to space. we've also gone the charity commission gone to the charity commission because wanted to get that response . now on the before response. now on the before i throw to you, i want out a little bit more context to for this our viewers, for our listeners and anyone can freely look at twitter thread that look at a twitter thread that was posted out yesterday. was was posted out yesterday. it was and it with a lot of and i read it with a lot of interest that was a very long twitter people twitter thread. people can go find want, but i've find it if they want, but i've got little summary of it here on november the 30th. obviously, forlani published an account of meeting as we know, meeting lady hussey as we know, we all know how that went. i don't to give that, ladies don't need to give that, ladies and but when and gentlemen, do we? but when you don't see this. you really don't even see this. and aren't and these aren't just allegations , we have put these allegations, we have put these to fulani. apparently to ngozi fulani. apparently she's term ally diane she's a long term ally of diane abbott. i and of course with it jeremy corbyn, claudia webb. we all remember them and they are serious questions about the income of the charity sisters based on maybe where that money gone. their income in 2017 was £9,460. reportedly . 2018

£9,460. reportedly. 2018 £14,780. pretty modest well. it rose to a whopping 357,000 by 2021. but and this is the interesting bit, despite the large sums at play here, the accounts are all very, very spunous accounts are all very, very spurious and there are serious question marks as to where some of that money may or may not have gone and under. you've been obviously having a little look at this as well. your views and your take on the ngozi fulani situation. a lot of people at the time that was more the time thought that was more them eye. i think them at the eye. well, i think she is extremely skilled at playing the media. the story now is still being about for the second week now on both sides of the atlantic. she's been all over the british press, as you viewers would know, but she's also been on a lot of mainstream american media as well . and this american media as well. and this claim about racism from , white claim about racism from, white supremacy see plays very, very well to liberal media. but what

people really need to are is scepticism actually because now i'm not impugning the motives of this this woman however , i this this woman however, i thought it immediately was very that a such a detailed transcript was produced of alleged conversation . and nobody alleged conversation. and nobody has a photographic like that now i wonder was there was a recording device and i watched these interviews that this fulani has been in and journalists haven't been asking her that. instead ask her about her that. instead ask her about her feelings and then, of course, they tie it to attacks on the monarchy and all that regarding the twitter. yes, red well, this is now the questions that should have been asked from the it is and just just before i get you to elaborate on that

again i just want to emphasise as people we have gone ngozi as people we have gone to ngozi fulani because we have gone to the sister space for comment. we've commission we've got the charity commission for common ancestor space, a charity it wasn't charity although it wasn't actually always actually interestingly always registered and registered as a charity and there numerous different there are numerous different things long us to go things is too long for us to go into the exact graphic into and the exact graphic detail this twitter is detail of this twitter thread is a long twitter thread, but a very long twitter thread, but basically raises serious basically it raises serious questions the questions about some of the emails that were emails and money that were raised sister space, some raised by our sister space, some of for example, from of which, for example, from comic and exactly what comic relief and exactly what money on or crucially money was spent on or crucially wasn't spent on. where that money may or may not have gone, and exactly who have pocketed that money . and i think, as you that money. and i think, as you rightly said, there are serious questions being asked about that . so just from my i guess, . yeah. so just from my i guess, the american experience of similar type of stories , we have similar type of stories, we have a longer of activists and figures in the public who make claims and whenever they that individual or organisation that they represent stands to benefit

from all the media attention, all the sisters for space. now you go on the website, the first thing you see is donate . one thing you see is donate. one should question motives and ask secondary questions . and secondary questions. and regarding these accusations from from the twitter things , this is from the twitter things, this is what we should have been talking about two weeks ago. so some of them include donations to help set up like a sewing class for survivors of domestic abuse. but when it looked into, it apparently reported lee, the sewing provided , sewing machines were provided, but had to pay sewing machines were provided, butto had to pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually had to pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually be had to pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually be a had to pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually be a part to pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually be a part of pay sewing machines were provided, butto actually be a part of the £5 to actually be a part of the seven class and bring their own fabnc seven class and bring their own fabric report. so there was a huge amount of money that was brought try to create brought in to try to create some form website. the form of website. well, the allegations was already a website actually the website website and actually the website that in a refer that was made in like a refer aboveit that was made in like a refer above it cost would have cost. no near the amount of money that they're that did cost they're saying that it did cost as well . and also claim as well. and also they claim they got this changing venues between 2019 and 2020 led to a

300% rise in their client base , 300% rise in their client base, which seems very, very unlikely, unless they had a very small client base to begin. and when it comes to them actually producing some of these facts and figures in, inverted quotation marks like the size that client base and like the amount that are amount of people that they are seeing walking their seeing walking through their doon seeing walking through their door, be little door, there appears to be little to evidence. how they to no evidence. see how they reach those and of reach those figures. and of course, figures all used course, those figures all used to funding all that and to to gain funding all that and to gain charitable donations . gain charitable donations. people have got question marks about , well, it seems like about, well, it seems like charity commission probably take a look in without speaking specifically these specifically to these allegations, which i haven't been able to independently verify . i would just speak to verify. i would just speak to the larger point , which is that . i w the larger point, which is that. i w british to look at the lessons that many americans have learnt, particularly from many large activist like black lives matter receive so much money on people

thinking that they they people give money on based on goodwill and wanting this to actually fighting against racism . what is fighting against racism. what is interesting is you mentioned money because as well, it does appear there are links to sister spaces . well, as the black spaces. well, as the black liberation and eye movement, which of is a kind of offshoot, as it were , to black lives as it were, to black lives matter, you k and also again, another that have emerged in this, which is 20, 20, 2060 space claim that that stuff is undertaken i.t. security cost is. however same year they admitted that their staff didn't know how to download a video from the internet again support to we have to both the to say we have gone to both the charity commission and we've gone sisters for gone to sisters base for comments on these allegations which raised serious questions fundamentally , yes, the charity fundamentally, yes, the charity itself , the way that the money itself, the way that the money may or may not have been used and everything may well be above board, maybe it's just little board, maybe it's just a little bit of interesting saying, well, i'll and we'll i'll have to wait and see. we'll have that comments on have to await that comments on that. also well, the

that. but also as well, the potential motive of ngozi fulani or name or indeed whatever name she's decided be called these days. decided to be called these days. and exactly what those motives might she walked might have been when she walked into palace and into buckingham palace and i think overarching point , think your overarching point, from can gather, is if from what i can gather, is if something doesn't smell quite right, people have a right, be a little bit suspicious over it . little bit suspicious over it. maybe the mainstream media shouldn't just fall into people's laps that easily. shouldn't just fall into people's laps that easily . yes, people's laps that easily. yes, i look to the example of black lives in america, where $90 million is poured in and it's was spent on buying expensive properties as well as paying for the salaries of family members, of people who are co—found of the organisation. so i'm not making that accusation here about this specific one button. there are many lessons to learn from america. you know , don't be from america. you know, don't be naive and think that unfortunately there are people out there willing to exploit people's right for sentiments

about racism by pushing back against it, too . and so there against it, too. and so there are people out there, obviously, whether or not ngozi fulani is one of them remains a matter for discussion and debate. no doubt she would vehemently deny all of that and thank very, very much as ever. and know that filling you in on these fascinating , you in on these fascinating, fascinating marks when fascinating question marks when it comes to ngozi fulani questions i need questions that i think need answering exactly the answering about exactly the charitable were taken charitable donations were taken from where they went and what the intentions were. and i think , like a lot of people now onune , like a lot of people now online calling for the charity commission to maybe step up and just a little look. it may just have a little look. it may well . everything is well emerge. everything is completely above board. why not have there is have a little look? there is more than whiff of suspicion that coming up we got a few issues angela levin. issues reaching angela levin. unfortunately let's say unfortunately so let's just say she can actually make it. i believe she is that. yes, i'm sure 11 is that fantasy royal correspondent extraordinaire andrea levin joins us believe we're going to go to her next on the latest of the harry and meghan netflix docu drama. we'll

be back very, very shortly . nice. the thing with extremist, they're not that logical. someone to triggers them and then all of a sudden they're blowing up a pop concert or whatever. yeah, exactly. and i don't know, there's the next maths and trivia. i've said it

again twice now on telly. that's what this is all about. it there

these things do happen. they're very tragic when they do . and very tragic when they do. and particularly this time of year just for christmas. obviously that makes it much more poignant when you imagine so. and it's a horrific . well, neil, a reminder horrific. well, neil, a reminder of the power and the peril of

nature. right, exactly . we're nature. right, exactly. we're surrounded nature. right, exactly. we're well, it never ends, does it? once upon a time, an errant, charismatic prince would have raised an army and marched on the capital. bonnie, prince, charlie and all of that. well anyway, these days, though , anyway, these days, though, we've just got the debates spectacle of watching the once much loved harry sell out his country and his culture and his family and stand idly by as his failed actress wife mocks our late, great queen elizabeth second and the institution which lies at the centre of political life in this country, and that in the week in which the last of the legendary dambusters sadly passed away. more netflix or all the meg flicks episodes are to come. unfortunately what have we got to expect ? and actually i am got to expect? and actually i am fearing the worst . royal

fearing the worst. royal biographer andrew 11 is here to discuss this with his knowledge. and i believe that we're on the precipice, frankly, of what may come to be known as for want of a better phrase, one of the longest suicide notes in history when to harry and when it comes to harry and meghan, because think meghan, because i think we're about enter territory here about to enter territory here where openly where they are just openly slagging queen. yeah slagging off our queen. yeah it's i mean, i agree with you. i knew harry very well because in 2017, i wrote a biography with him and i was with him for 15 months. and this is just a crumpled, angry harry that doesn't know which way to turn, really. i mean , he does what really. i mean, he does what he's told by meghan, but he actually can't work out whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. and he wonders to please. that's what it's about. yeah but it is a indictment. i mean, it's a indictment, it is a indictment. i mean, it's a indictment , though, i think a indictment, though, i think with all the calibre of the british public school system, because it apparently it doesn't matter how much money you throw at if love them into at someone if you love them into pubuc at someone if you love them into public over here, you public school over here, you assume they're going to get a

great education. clearly, prince harry no . one of my big harry has no. one of my big concerns with it is that it seems be out war on his seems to be all out war on his brother william as well including them of institution . including them of institution. no gaslighting. i can't help but feel though them feel as though is them gaslighting us. angela yeah. i read institutional. gaslighting is a ludicrous phrase, isn't it 7 is a ludicrous phrase, isn't it ? it's very, very rude. and it means nothing. you just want to stop people talking . i'm not stop people talking. i'm not full . i feel incredibly angry full. i feel incredibly angry and fearful for him because he's walking a tightrope and he's decided that that tightrope is for meghan and not for his family . but he can't just keep family. but he can't just keep on being extremely rude and making things like hang up. things are lies and the intensity that he feels . why intensity that he feels. why didn't they know they wanted to have a lovely time? meghan says , you know, wanted last . we've , you know, wanted last. we've got a home that we were longing for. well, it doesn't seem that

to me they're getting more and more aggressive. and the last appearance and they weren't. we're not because they're eating themselves up inside and prince charles's weight . he has to wait charles's weight. he has to wait until after this next series and then after the book comes . and then after the book comes. and then after the book comes. and then i'm quite sure we will see change . but you can't i think change. but you can't i think it's ridiculous of ordinary people like me to say to him, do this, get rid of him, because it's not our job. you know, he's it's not ourjob. you know, he's a king. he's also the father to harry. so he's only sorry. is anyone. harry. so he's only sorry. is anyone . so basically, prince anyone. so basically, prince harry had a very similar upbringing to prince william , upbringing to prince william, whose mother they shot him, though she tragically died. they shed a father as well . no, no shed a father as well. no, no drugs. they they shot a father as well. once they turned out so differently, because at some point , prince differently, because at some point, prince harry is going to have to hold his hands and go have to hold his hands up and go maybe. no, everybody else can be the william out the problem. william turned out all right. yeah, but i think you

know that brothers can have very, very different personalities . harry wears his personalities. harry wears his heart on sleeve . i mean , heart on his sleeve. i mean, besides that, he wouldn't let this bring him down and he would learn from it and move on. so you've got two very different people. but harry's been told what to do. now, that's the problem . and his god with problem. and his god with a woman who brings out the worst in him , where as william's gone in him, where as william's gone with someone who brings out the best with him, encourages them to be a father, encourages to be a good husband . so him a normal a good husband. so him a normal life . whereas yeah, but i think life. whereas yeah, but i think , and i think this is the bit now though where i suspect this is the, this is the regret element coming from harry mechanism state which is this was recorded before the queen's death. the queen suddenly passes away . rumours are that they away. rumours are that they wanted to get some of it redacted from netflix or change from said from netflix. netflix said no, you to was to the you sold your soul to was to the tune of have many million pounds you're to to you're just going to have to swallow now. look like swallow this now. you look like wow, it looks pretty

wow, frankly it looks pretty grim and it's going down grim and it's not going down well america either, is it? well in america either, is it? it's pretty , pretty shocking it's pretty, pretty shocking stuff. angela i think particularly that pseudo curtsy, i'm sure they would take that out because it lutely hideous. it was ridiculed as a meghan's squeaky voice after is pretending she's a little girl disney meghan do you think just to show she's sorry do you think meghan markle's got psychological problems? well, i don't want to be taken to court because she'll be bullying me . because she'll be bullying me. but neither of them think straight. let's leave it at that . it's very extraordinary when you've got so many opportunities to be happy, a son and a daughter, because 16 bathrooms, you can and she goes through the past saying nothing and she's like an ex—girlfriend. you've got a restraining order taken out against seriously. it's just, why are you so obsessed with me? move on with your life anyway. angela thank you very, very much. angela loving the royal commentator. extra

tonight. i'm probably. we should get through the end. right. let's a quick of the let's have a quick pummel of the old we hand over old project before we hand over to dan. and we've got them. yes. so we got what was just as well was nick kristof has been on why does and the telegraph then does swab and the telegraph then they have a mandate to tell the world what to do. well you go, christopher. yes. well, they certainly don't have a mandate to do that. but i mean, it's a commonly held view they commonly held view that they think do anyway. right. dan think they do anyway. right. dan watson massage you on watson is here to massage you on monday. right. down the monday. that's right. down the legend you legend himself. how could you chuckle in a way that when i ask whether meghan markle's chuckle in a way that when i ask whepsychology meghan markle's chuckle in a way that when i ask whepsychology problems, arkle's chuckle in a way that when i ask whepsychology problems, what s got psychology problems, what are you going to coming on are you going to coming up on your yes. i love that your show? oh, yes. i love that interview, with interview, actually, with angela levin. were naughty, levin. you were very naughty, but illuminating. patrick but it was illuminating. patrick we've actually got meghan mccain stateside on this tonight. plus, david mellor here because he believes that harry and meghan should actually be banned from attending king charles's coronation . so that's in the coronation. so that's in the clash. i'm very excited , though. clash. i'm very excited, though. patrick and robinson is in the

studio tonight. the original queen of maine. and she's going to be here to explain why she said no to the bbc, because she didn't want the weakest link to become the wokeist link, which really has now has a net plus. we've got a huge who do we have? nigel nigel farage. he's back. neil oliver too. and a brilliant superstore panel. malone benjamin butterworth and susanna evans. so you really don't want to go anyway, right? for the next 2 hours, it's freezing outside. stay with us. indoors 100. absolutely batten down the hatches. ladies and gentlemen , hatches. ladies and gentlemen, get mulled wine on the go get the mulled wine on the go and wonderful dan and just watch the wonderful dan watson himself, the king of gb news downloads. we will be with you very, very tall and say very quick. thank you to obviously everybody who's tuned in is listen, is a show that listen, this is a show that i love covering for the great man himself, steyn wise, himself, mark steyn wise, because to about because we get to talk about issues everybody seems issues that everybody else seems to from. we've the to shy away from. we've done the opposite. it really, opposite. a lot of it really, haven't we? how actually the fear of being called a racist is stifling debate when it comes to

the radicalisation place the radicalisation taking place in comes to the in schools when it comes to the grooming scandal. we also grooming guns scandal. we also did into ngozi did a deep dive into ngozi fulani is something that frankly pretty every other pretty much every other media outlet from and outlet is shying away from and we a rather different angle we took a rather different angle on and meghan on the old harry and meghan stuff as all this stuff as well. all of this coming way the coming your way after the weather. don't you dare touch that because dan watson that dog because dan watson will be with you very, very shortly. good i'm alex deakin good evening. i'm alex deakin and your weather and this is your latest weather update from met office. the update from the met office. the cold continue cold weather will continue through frost through this week. ice and frost will be prevalent and the potential for a bit more snow in some area as the uk is kind of surrounded by low pressure systems. but no , really having systems. but no, really having a direct hit on the uk, we just staying in the cold conditions with snow showers around the edges. but some heavy snow falling at the moment because shetland and snow showers shetland and the snow showers will work into the mainland of northern scotland overnight across southeast where we across the southeast where we had last night could be had the snow last night could be really icy here. elsewhere really quite icy here. elsewhere most places dry, some misty , most places dry, some misty, murky conditions persisting over central areas, but many places clear. and that will lead it to

turn cold, minus five, minus six, even in some towns and cities, negative double figures across scotland, perhaps as low as —20. in some locations, more snow showers coming in here as well. so ice and snow is a risk in the morning over northern scotland. still potentially icy across the southeast first thing and a few just and then a few showers just drift southeast scotland, drift into southeast scotland, northeast they northeast england later on. they could snow mixed could have some snow mixed in. otherwise, dry day, otherwise, a largely dry day, reasonably bright, but temperatures again struggling to get much above freezing. it will feel cold, particularly the winds the south—west. winds pick up in the south—west. now, here we are looking some now, here we are looking at some wet weather just pushing in dunng wet weather just pushing in during course of tuesday during the course of tuesday evening this will be a mix of rain, sleet and snow. difficult to how rain it's going to say how far rain it's going to say how far rain it's going to and therefore much to get and therefore how much snow going to see. but snow we are going to see. but there across the there could be some across the southwest tuesday night southwest during tuesday night and morning, and into wednesday morning, potentially again. then potentially icy here again. then on morning , further on wednesday morning, further snow in across snow showers coming in across northern scotland and a few more just the east coast just coming down the east coast of england as well. at low of england as well. snow at low levels . we could a few levels. we could see a few centimetres of snow . and more

centimetres of snow. and more than over hills . but than that, over the hills. but they be very hit and miss they will be very hit and miss again. most places, it's dry again. for most places, it's dry on wednesday, largely sunny conditions, but cold with the wind accentuating the cold, particularly across northern parts of scotland, staying cold this week. we do have warnings in . see the met office in place. see the met office website for more details on those . think about face tattoos? mark@gbnews.uk lin mei i just think it's a bit of a non—story,

to be honest. there's so many laser treatments you can get that can be gone in a week. really? yeah like i've got a lot of tattoos myself, but i like the flexibility of no of tattoos myself, but i like is that, this is, this is a nothing burger. yeah. anyway sticking with the royal siblings, this story in the star shows the royal family weaponizing christmas presents. paul oh yes. archie and lilibet will receive royal gifts . royal will receive royal gifts. royal christmas gifts. but harry and meghan,

no spin, no bias, no censorship. i'm dan wootton. tonight, britain is battling a general strike by stealth militant unions have ground the country to a halt and put lives at risk because their petty politics forces hard working brits into lockdown for a third painful year. lockdown for a third painful year . i'll lockdown for a third painful year. i'll unleash on the selfish recklessness of union barons in my digest next in my superstar panel weigh in tonight i'm joined by carole malone, benjamin butterworth and