very good morning. welcomes best tennis today on gb news. we're going to have the latest from our home security editor mark white on this unfolding story about a people smuggling boat of around 47 people that has capsized in the channel. also, it's the second day of royal strikes on the first day of the royal mail strikes, we'll be speaking to leader live speaking to a union leader live on picket line in warrington . on a picket line in warrington. i'm also going to be talking to the organiser protest the organiser of a protest against a county council's against such a county council's proposed traffic restrictions, also known as climate lockdowns, and find out why the council are rejecting any criticism. and of course, i'll be joined by my guest this morning to discuss all of today's stories. that's all of today's stories. that's all coming up after a look at the news with right . the latest news with right. thanks, pat . good morning. it's thanks, pat. good morning. it's 10:01. here is the latest from the gb newsroom gb news is understands at least three people have died after a migrant

boat capsized in the english channel. dozens of people were on board. border force lifeboats and a royal navy patrol vessel are now actively involved in a rescue operation off the coast . rescue operation off the coast. we also understand a number of people have been airlifted by helicopter. the incident comes less than 24 hours after the prime minister announced renewed plans to tackle illegal migration . inflation has fallen migration. inflation has fallen to 10.7, down from 11.1% in october. the chancellor jeremy hunt, says getting inflation down is his top priority and plans are in place to reduce it by half despite the fall. labour says the figure is still too high and shows the weakness of the uk economy . around half of the uk economy. around half of britain's rail lines are closed today as rmt members staged a sick day of strikes across the country. thousands of workers at network rail and 14 train companies have walked out, leaving some parts of the uk with no train service at all.

it's part of a long running dispute over pay, jobs and conditions . it comes after the conditions. it comes after the rmt reject it and offer of a 5% pay rmt reject it and offer of a 5% pay rise this year, with another 4% in 2023 . royal mail is 4% in 2023. royal mail is accusing the postal workers union of holding christmas to ransom as its members stage fresh industrial action over pay and conditions. it's after postal staff reject it. what royal mail says is their best and final offer of a 9% pay rise of 18 months. general. secretary of 18 months. general. secretary of the communication workers union, dave ward, told us the pay union, dave ward, told us the pay offer is not genuine . we pay offer is not genuine. we would accept 9% if it was truly 9% and that means the full value of 9% on basic pay, the company and not offering 9% if they were. i'm saying live on air now. we would settle that part of the dispute . we've made that of the dispute. we've made that clear to him. we put that in writing and also as part of

that, by the way, we asked them if they were to confirm that along with some job security committee notes that we've spoken about. then we would have suspended to destroy it. well, the government is holding another cobra meeting over the countrywide strike action taking place in the lead up to christmas. it's the second time that ministers , officials and that ministers, officials and military chiefs have met this week to discuss contingencies. plans include using armed forces and civil servants to cover border force staff . several border force staff. several industries plan to walk out over the festive period, including teachers, nurses and bus drivers . the snp has announced plans to introduce a bill to allow scotland to hold its own referendum on independence . the referendum on independence. the party aims to amend the 1998 scotland act, which details what hollyrood can and cannot legislate on. it comes almost a month after the supreme court ruled that scotland cannot hold a second independence referendum without approval from

westminster . a man who killed westminster. a man who killed and sexually assaulted law graduate at zarah elena in east london will be sentenced today . london will be sentenced today. jordan mcsweeney had targeted more than one woman before he attacked the 35 year old as she walked home from a night out in ilford in june. he'd been released from prison just days before her murder and had been ordered to be returned by the probation service . ukraine's air probation service. ukraine's air defence systems shot down 13 iranian made drones overnight as explosions were heard in the centre of kyiv. the mayor of ukraine's capital, vitali klitschko , says universities and klitschko, says universities and restaurants were struck along with two office buildings. there's no information yet on whether anyone was killed in the attack . festive shoppers are at attack. festive shoppers are at greater risk of loan fee fraud to this christmas, according to the financial conduct authority. loan fee fraud happens when a consumer pays a fee for a loan that they never receive. the

financial watchdog says they've seen a 21% increase in such scams compared to the previous year. scams compared to the previous year . and the prince and year. and the prince and princess of wales have released their official christmas card for radio listeners. the image shows william and kate walking along a path in norfolk hand—in—hand with their children. prince george , children. prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis. it comes after the king and queen consort released their own christmas card image last weekend . you're watching tv. weekend. you're watching tv. news will bring you more as it happens. now let's get straight back to beth . back to beth. good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news. here's what's coming up on the show this morning nigel farage will be with me in the studio for the

very latest on the migrant boat that has capsized in the channel. gb news understands that were board and that 47 people were on board and at least three people now at least three people are now known to have died. a high security editor, mark white, will us up to date and will bring us up to date and conservative peer lord moylan and the former labour mp steven pound will join me in the studio to give us their take on the biggest news stories of the day. of course i want your views on is uk or tweet me at gb news with your opinions on anything else we're discussing this morning now a migrant boat has capsized in the english channel overnight, throwing dozens of people into the water. gb news understands that there were 47 people on board and at least three are now known to have died. let's go to our home security editor, mark white for an from dover. good an update from dover. good morning, mark. thank you very much for joining morning, mark. thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this morning. what do we know .7 do we morning. what do we know? do we know what time this incident happened and what is the latest ? well this is still very much

an active search and rescue operation . and now more than operation. and now more than 6 hours after the drama began, it was just before 3:00. we understand this morning when the coast guard started receiving reports that a small boat had capsize . now we understand that capsize. now we understand that almost 50 people were on board that small boat in the middle of the channel just off don. janice, we're told that there are at least three fatalities. those fatalities have been brought , we understand, to dover brought, we understand, to dover harbour . but brought, we understand, to dover harbour. but search and rescue is a sea still under way. coast guard helicopters are up looking over the channel as are border force vessels , lifeboats and the force vessels, lifeboats and the royal navy. within the last houn royal navy. within the last hour, we understand that another couple of people have been spotted in the water . what we spotted in the water. what we don't know of course, is the condition of those individuals.

but given the temperatures in the english channel at the moment and the fact that they will have been in the water for more than 6 hours, it's not good. so that search and rescue operation still under way. we know, of course , that know, of course, that a significant number of people have been taken on board the border force vessels on board the lifeboats and on board french fishing vessels , which french fishing vessels, which were there as well. we understand they were quite quickly on the scene. it will of taken by the very nature of any sort of search and rescue operation longer for the border force vessels , the lifeboats and force vessels, the lifeboats and other vessels to get to the scene. but those fishing boats helped out in the first instance and will have no doubt saved lives from those that capsized . lives from those that capsized. why this higher boat capsized? we don't know . the conditions we don't know. the conditions are not too bad in the channel. this morning. we've had two days

of weather conditions where it's pretty impossible for small boats. we had about 500 odd who came across over the weekend when conditions were a bit better . but at this when conditions were a bit better. but at this time of the year of the weather conditions in the channel are always very unpredictable . but what we do unpredictable. but what we do know, of course , is any time know, of course, is any time that they are almost impossible, then the people smugglers will shop these boats out into the channel. but if it's not the waves caused from bad weather that capsizes these boats . that capsizes these boats. there's also the weeks that are created by these huge vessels that ply up and down one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. the container ships and the oil tankers that create very hazardous waves that for a small boat can easily capsize these vessels . that will have to be vessels. that will have to be determined in the fullness of time. what we have, of course, at the moment is this very active search and rescue operation and coming less than a day after the prime minister announced a multi—pronged

approach to trying to get to grips. get on the front foot to deal with these small boats that have come across endeavour , have come across endeavour, increasing numbers with some 45,000 people have now crossed the english channel so far this year. the english channel so far this year . okay. thank you, mark. year. okay. thank you, mark. mark white there at down in kent, nigel farage has joined me in the studio this morning with some breaking news. nigel the home secretary has said that her heartfelt thoughts are with those who are in volved. your reaction , first of all, this reaction, first of all, this morning? no surprise. you know, we can be shocked when we hear that three people have died and we have no idea what that number might climb to if it's an active search and rescue mission now. the is the number could be the fear is the number could be quite higher, but we can't quite a lot higher, but we can't be surprised. mean , you know, be surprised. i mean, you know, i've seen those boats at first hand, both at sea and on land. there made for one trip only. there made for one trip only. the plywood bottoms are

literally glued in and they can deflate very, very easily. so we don't yet know whether it was a collision, a deflation. but we can't be surprised . i mean, the can't be surprised. i mean, the real surprise is we haven't had a major incident like this since november of last year. so obviously on a human level, absolutely horrid. this this issue, which has been going very much to the top of british politics, i just wonder what when we reflect on the loss of life , perhaps that should make life, perhaps that should make us even more determined to stop these crossings from happening. and you add to this story what we learnt late last night that 70 children have gone missing from hotels in hove in sussex, 70 under 18 that have come into the country, have gone missing. and one shudders to think where some of those children have been taken to. so i think there is actually a moral imperative to stop these crossings . there is stop these crossings. there is this it's a terrible , tragic this it's a terrible, tragic irony. and i mean that in the true sense of the word , that

true sense of the word, that this comes a day after rishi sunak set out his plan yesterday . let's just go back to yesterday . what were your yesterday. what were your thoughts on his ambitions? because from where i was sitting , we already have a lot of these particular methods, do we not, to stop this thing. so was it just a lot of words yesterday? you know what, rishi sunak said, you can just one the clock back. yeah. to boris johnson saying that you could wipe it back even further. to david cameron saying if you come here illegally , you if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay and that's what the public want to heat that's what the public want to hear. the hear. and that's what the conservative supporting newspaper to hear in newspaper was want to hear in terms of substance. well, much of it was hopeless, you know. oh, there'll be no more hotels. we're going to put you in butlins well, big deal butlins instead. well, big deal . we've got two offices at tirana airport and albania. well but they're coming across the channelin but they're coming across the channel in boats . that's not channel in boats. that's not going to help . the big news was, going to help. the big news was, you know, he did say that there

would be deportations back to albania because it's a safe country and that would happen very quickly. well, that's all. well and good. but the problem is this. we have the modern slavery act of 2015. so you've come from albania. you claim to have been trafficked , even have been trafficked, even though you probably haven't , but though you probably haven't, but you've got a legal problem there . you've got the human rights act 1998, which incorporates act of 1998, which incorporates the european on human the european convention on human rights into uk law . i do not rights into uk law. i do not believe we have any chance of stopping this unless we change the legislation that is there on the legislation that is there on the statute books. and thus far , you know, priti patel suella braverman the occasionally hint at this. but until they do that this isn't going to change and we're going to finish up this yeah we're going to finish up this year. by the end of this year, perhaps towards 50,000 people that have crossed. and next year the numbers could higher. that have crossed. and next year the numbers could higher . why that have crossed. and next year the nlthey rs could higher . why that have crossed. and next year the nlthey do :ould higher . why that have crossed. and next year the nlthey do that? higher . why that have crossed. and next year the nlthey do that? nigelher . why that have crossed. and next year the nlthey do that? nigel farage hy won't they do that? nigel farage well, tell you why . if you don't well, tell you why. if you don't know the answer that, nobody know the answer to that, nobody no understands this better no one understands this better than you. i do. it's the than you. oh, i do. it's the same reason they never wanted to

leave the european union. the conservative did want conservative party did not want to the european union. to leave the european union. they had to be kicked into it. if the eastgate job, if they leave the eastgate job, there'll be condemnation from every body we're like every body that we're like 19305, every body that we're like 1930s, germany, with a wicked, evil, dreadful country . if we evil, dreadful country. if we attempt to redefine the 1951 under venetian of what a refugee, as i remember, that was for a yeah. a world in which a refugee was seen as somebody who might be killed because of who they were, what their religion was, race was. they want was, their race was. they want to be popular on the international there international stage. now there is one way of solving this. the aussies did it in 2012, tony abbott as prime minister, they tried offshore processing, they abbott as prime minister, they tried all;hore processing, they abbott as prime minister, they tried all these)rocessing, they abbott as prime minister, they tried all these thingsing, they abbott as prime minister, they tried all these things that:hey tried all these things that we're talking about in the end, you know what they did? they took they tied them took the boats, they tied them back indonesia. they were back to indonesia. they were condemned the european union, condemned by the european union, condemned by the european union, condemned by the united nations. the whole world said how beastly australia . but you know what australia was. but you know what happened ? global bodies went happened? global bodies went absolutely by escape. so we're going to have to do something.

it would in changing our law . it would in changing our law. enacting that is going to make us unpopular for a period of time among us. i'll be the president of france, won't like it, etc. but that's the only way we're going solve this. do we're going to solve this. do you think these these tragic events today, we still we don't know. reports are saying know. latest reports are saying that are 43 people that perhaps there are 43 people who been rescued alive but who have been rescued alive but are hospital at the moment. are in hospital at the moment. as you say, that death counts may rise. let's hope not. does this change that conversation today? well, it probably does. she does this now. give her permission, is what i'm saying in a sense, to change the rhetoric and to say we have to make this a less appealing opfion make this a less appealing option to people. yes. and we're going to get prime minister's questions today, of course. and this will be the main part of i mean, he was going to be a big part of pmqs anyway, after the pm's statement yesterday. look, you know so well i can say what she likes when she said i can say what he likes. i repeat the point. unless we get to grips

with legislation that is on our statute book , which is being statute book, which is being used lawyers and through the used by lawyers and through the courts to prevent deportations, let's be let's we grasp that nettle this one stop. no absolutely. well we will, of course, bring you all the information as it as this unfolds today. a really sad story , 3:00 this morning, it story, 3:00 this morning, it looks like what possibly one do we know, one or two boats went into one boat. we think which had i think of at least 30 people on it . a 43 have been people on it. a 43 have been rescued and in hospital. and we know that three have already lost their lives. then who knows how many people were on that boat and the rescue services still that town cairns still that town in cairns deaung still that town in cairns dealing with this emergency now off the break. thank you . thank off the break. thank you. thank you. coming in off the break, i'm going to be joined in the studio by conservative peer lord daniel moylan and the former labour mp stephen power to discuss rishi sunak five point migrant to see in few migrant plan to see in a few

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good morning. this is bev turner today on gb news. it is 1021. now let me introduce is my guest this morning. i'm delighted be joined by former labour mp steven pound and conservative peerin steven pound and conservative peer in the house of lords. lord moylan okay , there's one big moylan okay, there's one big news story this morning. let's start with this. this story about the capsized boats in the channel. lots of our viewers have been getting in touch and that has said tragic , though. that has said tragic, though. this is we are not to blame the responsibility must lie with those who put themselves at risk as a matter of urgency. we must let be known that anybody let it be known that anybody trying country trying to enter our country illegally be deported illegally will be deported immediately with no right of appeal. has loss appeal. and danny has said loss of dreadful for anyone of life is dreadful for anyone concerned. tragedy concerned. the tragedy that unfolded channel is the

unfolded in the channel is the fault inept so—called fault of our inept so—called government . don't up in government. don't put them up in four accommodation. the four star accommodation. the only coming is only reason they're coming is because making it too because we are making it too welcoming the government. no one else to blame. stephen, your else is to blame. stephen, your response think it's response to that? i think it's very difficult to be objective in such a horrible in terms of such a horrible story. you think of story. when you think of somebody dying in freezing water, think it actually it water, i think it actually it takes bring brings you up short from what you have to think is this push from they this push factor from they actually driven from their actually being driven from their home was a pool factor because it's attractive to this country home was a pool factor because itthe:tractive to this country home was a pool factor because itthe:tracti\that this country home was a pool factor because itthe:tracti\that certainly|try . the thing that certainly worries that at the moment worries me is that at the moment people are paying three or four, £5,000 come across what the £5,000 to come across what the people those people smugglers of those vicious, bloodsucking vicious, evil, bloodsucking scumbags the world's ever known, what will do is to say, what they will now do is to say, oh, reason they died is oh, the reason why they died is because wasn't top of the because it wasn't the top of the range and they'll just range job and they'll just increase the money. look, we've got to actually do rishi got to actually finally do rishi sunak just simply rehashed sunak is just simply rehashed the it's just the old one. it's like it's just like just brought up he like he just brought up what he said week and the week said last week and the week before. we need. firstly before. what we need. firstly we've actually connect we've got to actually connect the together, fingerprint the people together, fingerprint them, identity them, issue them with identity cards, would

cards, i think would be a marvellous start. so least we marvellous start. so at least we know they are and if someone know who they are and if someone is be deported, is going to be deported, somebody albania or somebody from albania or from a safe country, shouldn't be safe country, they shouldn't be wandering the streets, working a car and doing those car washes and doing those things. should be things. they should actually be detained necessarily the detained and not necessarily the highly camp highly high holiday camp in pontins or something. but, you know, actually got the know, we've actually got the areas to so to areas to hold them. so to actually come up with these specious is not doing specious rehashes is not doing anybody favour and it's not anybody any favour and it's not doing poor souls who died doing those poor souls who died in the freezing water south of dungeness any favours. well, lord moylan, know, lord moylan, you know, three years ago when we promised the tories promised to control immigration after winning the election, their resolute they failed to do so . do you see failed to do so. do you see today as a consequence of that failure of policy? well the conservative party said we put a new immigration system in place that would take back control of immigration, that was talking about legal immigration into this country and that has been put in place. and people want to see it adjusted in different ways. but it's not a great scandal. there's an argument about whether you a few

about whether you need a few more this type of work or, more of this type of work or, you know, whatever. so that's the normal sort of argument you'd to happen you'd expect to happen and disagreement, and that can work itself is something itself out. this is something totally is totally different. this is a massive movement, very large numbers, movements of people across the continent and across continents with a view always to coming to the uk. and we have to ask ourselves, does anybody come out of this with any credit? no the government hasn't handled it well and in some ways we've continued to make it too attractive a destination, in my view . secondly, you've got the view. secondly, you've got the record of people traffickers. they call themselves travel agents . basically, they're agents. basically, they're offering a service, will get you there. you pay the money and we get you that. you've got these people. but stephen described them much better, very correctly as scumbags . and they have as evil scumbags. and they have as evil scumbags. and they have a business. this is a this is a business. and we're not even it seems to be putting a finger on disrupting that business model, which to do. and then which we need to do. and then you've got other countries on

the continent through which they pass, which have to succeed morally. it seems to me , in morally. it seems to me, in washing their hands. i don't know whether i don't know whether heard nigel whether you heard what nigel farage saying about the farage was just saying about the fact well, was fact that. well, nigel was saying unless come out saying that unless we come out of european court of human of the european court of human rights, we will never have the muscle powerfully turn people muscle to powerfully turn people away and turn them back . and the away and turn them back. and the reason the tory government won't do they want to do that is because they want to be with other on be popular with other leaders on the stage and they don't the global stage and they don't like that would like the fact that that would cast them as some sort of an anarchic , mystic government . anarchic, mystic government. what what's response to what what's your response to that? it's it remains a bit of a vanhy that? it's it remains a bit of a vanity project stopping the uk taking firmer issue. i don't think you need to come out the european convention on human rights . we do not have to follow rights. we do not have to follow the judgement of the european court of human rights if we choose not to. and there's the well—known case of for well—known case of votes for prisoners. we've been told by well—known case of votes for priseuropean've been told by well—known case of votes for pris european court en told by well—known case of votes for priseuropean court of told by well—known case of votes for priseuropean court of human the european court of human rights in prison are rights that people in prison are entitled to a vote. we have an act of parliament which takes no

nofice act of parliament which takes no notice of that, and there's no popular wish to give people in prison vote we no prison to vote. and we take no nofice prison to vote. and we take no notice and nothing happens. and if to take measures here if we want to take measures here that say people coming from that say that people coming from certain countries, of course, it's easy to establish it's always easy to establish where from. we say, where they come from. we say, oh, got so many oh, we've got so many from albania, many iraq, albania, so many from iraq, whatever by whatever they're all told by their travel to throw the their travel agents to throw the passports before they land passports away before they land . so always know where . so we don't always know where they're actually coming from. these exact figures. but if we know people coming from a know people are coming from a country has agreed, country that has been agreed, a safe country, and there's a good question whether they should be coming france at all coming here from france at all in context. but let's say in that context. but let's say it's an albanian. we have it's an albanian. yeah, we have a take them back a system to take them back without process without a judicial process because they're because we know they're albanian. we're confident of that. then and the european court human rights doesn't court of human rights doesn't like we're perfectly like it. we're perfectly entitled say, heard entitled to say, we've heard what you but we're what you say, but we're a democratic, independent country . we're in the convention, . we're still in the convention, but not they're not but we're not they're not complying with that judgement. we've this we've done it before, but this is loophole that's being is the loophole that's being used, steve? in terms used, isn't it, steve? in terms of the modern slavery so

of the modern slavery act, so the is a very the people's rights is a very good i think. how good thing. i think. how disgusting that a piece disgusting is it that a piece of legislation in the legislation brought in for the best reasons actually crack best reasons to actually crack down on people is now being used by these people in those devious, dubious way. no, look, by these people in those deviofs, dubious way. no, look, by these people in those devi of theibious way. no, look, by these people in those devi of the problems'. no, look, by these people in those devi of the problems i no, look, by these people in those devi of the problems i mean,»k, one of the problems i mean, i used to deal with hundreds of immigration cases. and one of the had was the the problems we had was the proving somebody from as proving that somebody from as daniel rightly said, daniel just quite rightly said, people they were people would say they were kosovo they were kosovo albanians, they were serbian albanians, ellie costello what costello albanians. and what they're at they're doing in sweden at the present saying not present time is saying it's not up us to prove, are you from up to us to prove, are you from it's for you to prove that to us. you prove it by speaking a local dialect or having some documentation. sweden is deporting south deporting people to the south balkans hours. the one balkans within 24 hours. the one thing drove to thing that drove me to distraction . can't do distraction. why can't we do what the office is? i mean, what the home office is? i mean, every home secretary known every home secretary i've known i've few of them have i've known a few of them have said thing. this is not said the same thing. this is not fit purpose. home fit for purpose. the home office. i mean, office. the home office, i mean, john reid said it, first of all, and i think everybody knows that if make asylum if you make an asylum application and application in this country and keep down for five keep your head down for five years, then apply for years, you then apply for something the regular something under the regular

regularisation of overstayers legislation and next thing you know, you've been granted citizenship. absolute citizenship. it's an absolute open here. what we should open door here. what we should be doing today when no good be doing today when it's no good rishi saying going rishi sunak saying we're going to number to double the number of immigration officers. you know, we've servants. why on we've got civil servants. why on earth we not have a system earth do we not have a system that let's look at that works? well, let's look at the point plan rishi the five point plan that rishi sunak announced yesterday. he plans small boats operational plans a small boats operational command duniya, which use command duniya, which will use all available technology, including drones , and then including drones, and then prosecute more gang led boats, pilots . this is already done in pilots. this is already done in some shape or form, isn't it? i can't see the significance. well, i'm not sure . i mean, well, i'm not sure. i mean, let's call them the travel agents , the people traffickers. agents, the people traffickers. yeah. do they actually have a rep on the boats that you could actually arrest? i mean , i don't actually arrest? i mean, i don't know who it is. you know, they send pilots. i mean, do they send pilots. i mean, do they send do you say there's a. yeah well, they just they just point and say carry on. you see a big ship and wave. yeah. so more and more led boats pilots with his quote. yeah well i don't know who's doing this piloting and maybe he knows more than i do is

perfect possible he knows more than i do. but i mean i don't see that as making huge see that as making a huge difference. what are you difference. and what are you prosecuting we prosecuting them for? do we have a clear law? where is the legislation that says you are committing an offence, an offence by being a gang led boat pilot? yeah that exists. do we have to do it? yes. yes, we do. we actually have maritime law now. the way it works at the moment is that they're using rebels. richard to inflatable boats. and these are being manufactured fill manufactured in china to fill the the present time. the market at the present time. because thing they because one thing that they flick french do is flick the french plod do is actually things and actually pierce these things and deflate there's a big deflate them. but there's a big market to provide them. so what happened? is happened? the way it works is you're on you're on the beach, a paddock or somewhere like that. the who, whoever it the guide, the who, whoever it heritage will fill heritage is in charge will fill the diesel fuel and the boat with diesel fuel and will be taken off as they approach the british shores. however, under maritime law, for a commander of a vessel to actually endanger his or her crew is a crime . it's an crew is a crime. it's an international crime. you could use that. you could use that

legislation. but we don't use it. we don't always do. is this a ring our when something a ring our hands when something like happens, the like this happens, it's on the front pages couple of front pages for a couple of days. well, i think this issue is on the front is going to be on the front pages for a long time because it is is now so bad. and the is it is now so bad. and the people in the street just say, what are we utterly incompetent? the whitehall doesn't the person in whitehall doesn't know any more. know best any more. there was a time when the civil service was expert and efficient and professional. they professional. nowadays they just wandering headless wandering around like headless chickens, it's just chickens, you know? it's just embarrassing . well, as our nigel embarrassing. well, as our nigel farage really, it's a farage just said, really, it's a miracle hasn't happened miracle this hasn't happened soonen miracle this hasn't happened sooner, happened sooner, but it has happened before, it . last before, as we know it. last november, think we said, you november, i think we said, you know, miracle given that know, it's a miracle given that we've nearly people we've got nearly 45,000 people have look the weather have no one. look at the weather today channel. yeah, yeah today on the channel. yeah, yeah . and it might change the . so and it might change the conversation, but will it make any actual difference ? i think any actual difference? i think there's very little faith from people that that it will let me bnng people that that it will let me bring this point that mrs. rishi sunak made to you, lord , erm on sunak made to you, lord, erm on early next day will introduce a new legislation to make unambiguously clear that if you

enter the uk illegally you should not be able to remain here. there's also speculation that the government wants to resurrect the detained fast track the d f t that if track sister the d f t that if i do you know much about the dft . do you know much about the dft. i don't that didn't do you know . yes, i do. yes, i get that didn't that got thrown out as well as being illegal didn't know what it is. it's subject to a challenge at the moment. it's still, you know, some current change, but it's simply doesn't work that way. that's real work that way. that's the real the difficulty. what the real difficulty. what they're that if you they're saying is that if you enter country illegally, you enter the country illegally, you will british will never be granted british citizenship. however, will citizenship. however, you will not to the country not be sent back to the country you from. therefore you are you came from. therefore you are stateless wandering stateless person wandering around about around the country. talk about having like having a big sign. i would like to be criminal. having a big sign. i would like to be criminal . give having a big sign. i would like to be criminal. give me a job to be a criminal. give me a job thatis to be a criminal. give me a job that is absolutely pandering to criminality. yeah and the rwanda deal criminality. yeah and the rwanda deal, course, is all in deal, of course, that is all in the that looks like a joke the court that looks like a joke now, doesn't it, daniel ? i don't now, doesn't it, daniel? i don't know it's a joke, but it is know if it's a joke, but it is in courts and we will find in the courts and we will find out where that goes. but what you have to remember on all of

this, as far as the british courts are concerned, any judgement british can judgement of a british court can be overridden by a act of be overridden by a an act of parliament. so it's perfectly reasonable for government reasonable for the government say disagree with that say we disagree with that judgement we agree with it, judgement or we agree with it, but we don't want to see it implemented . we can introduce implemented. we can introduce legislation to change it and it's open them to do that. it's open to them to do that. and we're looking for is and what we're looking for is a bit heft putting the bit more heft in putting the right laws in place that allow them to take action, plus implementation. but while stephen go the civil stephen has a go at the civil servants the servants about the implementation and that's fair dues, agree there is the home dues, i agree there is the home office is not totally fit for purpose. i think you need to look at the government as well and well, where the and say, well, where is the legislative framework that allows things that allows you do the things that you you're going do? and you say you're going to do? and stephen with maritime stephen comes up with maritime law used be in the law because he used to be in the navy. understands all navy. he understands all of that. you know, those that. but you know, maybe those two factors aren't necessarily connected. they may not. they may connected. but you do may not be connected. but you do know about those. and that's fine . but where that package fine. but where is that package that allows fast tracking through the courts to bring

people out the other side and say, not ready for say, you're not ready for deportation? thank you, deportation? okay thank you, gentlemen. moylan , stephen gentlemen. lord moylan, stephen pound, for you in just pound, more for you in just a moment. also we're going to be talking in just a moment about a traffic filter system being introduced in oxfordshire next yeah introduced in oxfordshire next year. it's being dubbed as a climate lockdown, a phrase that the council rejects protests against it are going ahead in february. i'm going to be talking to one of the organisers after your morning's news. 10:33 unrealised and in the gb newsroom gb news understands that at least three people have died after a migrant boat capsized in the english channel. dozens of people were on board with border force lifeboats and a royal navy patrol vessel all involved in the rescue operation out of the kent coast. the home secretary has called the incidents distressing and said she's being kept constantly updated . incident comes less

updated. incident comes less than 24 hours after the prime minister announced renewed plans to tackle illegal migration in inflation has fallen to 10.7, down from 11.1% in october . the down from 11.1% in october. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says getting inflation down is his top priority and plans are now in place to reduce it by half . in place to reduce it by half. despite the fall food inflation is still rising, hitting a 45 year high last month of 16.4% around half of britain's rail lines are closed today as rmt members staged their second day of strikes over pay , jobs and of strikes over pay, jobs and conditions. thousands of workers at network rail and 14 train companies have walked out, leaving some parts of the uk with no train service at all. it comes after the rmt rejected an offer of a 5% pay rise this year , with another 4% next year . , with another 4% next year. royal mail is accusing the postal workers union of holding christmas to ransom as its

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good morning. it's 1038. good morning. it's1038. this is bev turner today on gb news. thank you for joining bev turner today on gb news. thank you forjoining me . just thank you for joining me. just an update on this breaking story in the channel. a government source has said that three people have died after a small boat incident in english channel and have been rescued. and 43 others have been rescued. a government source has said now after oxfordshire county council approved plans to lock residents into one of six zones to save the planet from global warming , the planet from global warming, protests against the decision are being organised to take place in february. the council will introduce green light traffic filters in the city. they will ban private vehicles from six areas at certain times and are set to be introduced next day. well, ben pyle is an independent researcher and writer and exactly the kind of

person we need in this country at the moment. person we need in this country at the moment . good person we need in this country at the moment. good morning, ben. are you there? i believe that you are one of the people. good morning. you're one of the people helping to galvin eyes pubuc people helping to galvin eyes public to this plan. public opposition to this plan. why yeah well together direct declaration is has many thousands many many thousands of members and signatories and people with expertise. and we believe that the scheme in oxford and elsewhere in the country simply isn't democratic, hasn't passed any democrat test. and people aren't being listened to. if you look at the consultation and the consultation and the consultation process , it seems consultation process, it seems oxfordshire county council and oxford, oxford county council are quite intransigent . oxford, oxford county council are quite intransigent. in their in their approach to the, to the pubuc in their approach to the, to the public and this is a problem that stems from all parties that are involved in those government. so recently the

conservative lost over overall control, but they were quite keen on these traffic fees , this keen on these traffic fees, this kind of traffic management system. and now there is a coalition of liberal democrats, labour and greens and they're all identical, it seems to us so there hasn't been a debate at there hasn't been a debate at the political level in oxfordshire or oxford which reflects what's happening at the national level. but i would say with the net zero agenda, sorry now. so ben, i'm just going to say, isn't it the case that when it comes to net zero, there doesn't need to be any sort of democratic process, it just feels like this decision has been just made for us and we all have to buy even if have to buy into it, even if that means small, a small yet huge change is our life and huge change is to our life and the decisions and choices the decisions and the choices that allowed make about that we're allowed to make about where move around. help where we move around. why help us to understand this in terms of even if you believe that we should be saving planet, should be saving the planet, that like a crazy that doesn't seem like a crazy idea buy into. but why does idea to buy into. but why does it concern you and the together declaration that these change

are in the pipeline ? what are we are in the pipeline? what are we at risk of losing ? well, i think at risk of losing? well, i think democracy is the best way of determining policy , and that determining policy, and that means a frank conversation often about about the problems , either about about the problems, either about about the problems, either a town like oxford or the whole country face. so, you know, it might be that the people of oxford ultimately want more draconian management of traffic. and it might be that the country as a whole wants well , frankly, as a whole wants well, frankly, he wants expensive energy , but he wants expensive energy, but and is always or at least is willing to pay the costs for what what what it believes is important . you know, the important. you know, the emissions reduction . but emissions reduction. but actually, it turns out that climate policies might be worse than climate change itself . if than climate change itself. if you're if you're going to if you're if you're going to if you're going to lose your income, you may and you may lose your house and you may join many thousands of other people in using your income or your house. then then it's hard to say that

that's that's a problem. that's that's that's a problem. that's that's preferable to slightly different weather. and we need to have a debate about the science, whether whether that's really as well. but to really happening as well. but to bnng really happening as well. but to bring back to oxford, i think bring it back to oxford, i think it would simple to have it would be very simple to have have that conversation. but it requires the political requires that the political parties listen to their constituents and it means it means they can't form a consensusis means they can't form a consensus is between themselves about what they're going to do to us. it means that they must remember that they are public servants , and that's that's the servants, and that's that's the principle that together declaration, which is organising a lot of events in oxford next year , hopes to raise a research year, hopes to raise a research ban.the year, hopes to raise a research ban. the council will say that traffic filters have been part of oxford's transport strategy since 2015. they are just a key tool to reduce traffic congestion in oxfordshire. they said that the traffic filters are not designed to stop people from driving private vehicle tolls. do you do you agree with

that assessment of this potential policy . and . the potential policy. and. the oxford the oxford, a complex . oxford the oxford, a complex. it's a small city. and there are there are you know, it meets in there are you know, it meets in the middle at a crossroads of full. right. so there's a lot of potential for people. and most people probably do walk or cycle to get around . right. so you to get around. right. so you require some some management if everyone wants to go to the city, it's always, always face problems of congestion and it's andifs problems of congestion and it's and it's politicians have always sort of been very keen on on reducing people's usage of cars across the city in and around the city. but but again, i returned to point and there has to be a conversation. right. and with with the public about how that that that goes ahead because what's happened , it's

because what's happened, it's almost as if like a quiet cabal has developed within local governments of all kinds , not governments of all kinds, not just in oxford, which has been allowed to justice, make decisions on the public's behalf. without that being tested. right. so and if you look at and if you look at the number of people who vote for vote in local elections , it's vote in local elections, it's actually very small. it's sort of it doesn't certainly doesn't exceed 40, 45, 40 or 50. right and in some places, it's as low as 12% within within, within the county and within the city. so if you if there's a winning party or even a winning coalition, it's only got the support of a fraction of the number of people that would sort of not typically qualify as a majority . right. so oxford sort majority. right. so oxford sort of, it has been quite a green place . it's produced at mep's place. it's produced at mep's like caroline lucas and writers like caroline lucas and writers like george mumba. and so there is, there is quite a green core to the city, but i would say

people as people have been people as people have been people have been pushed out of politics at the local and national level and that's allowed this green ideology to fester within local civil service and local government and, you know, and so now we're facing a situation where there is an antagonism , a growing is an antagonism, a growing antagonism, which has maybe reached something of a tipping point between the public and the local authority. and that's not for the good. that's not just just just last word, then . can just just last word, then. can you tell us when the protest is planned for? and if people want to join you, what they need to join you, what do they need to join you, what do they need to where can i out? to do? where can i find out? information so i don't know information so i, i don't know to together organise it. so i don't know if the two together declaration is organising a protest. we are organising events . so i protest. we are organising events. so i think it's probably for the people of oxford to organise protests . we're going organise protests. we're going to be holding debates and talks and so on and so forth. in oxford and in other places because we a national because we are a national organisation and so people can

find out what's going to be happening by looking on the together declaration website or the or the twitter feed. okay thank you ben. ben pile of the i'm going to ask you, lord moylan, because you you kind of know quite a lot about this. don't you? how how is it going to work and what's the logic behind it? because i think you can apply if you are resident, you can apply for permit. so you can apply for a permit. so you can apply for a permit. so you use your car these you can use your car in these zones for more than 100 days a yean zones for more than 100 days a year, which is what you limit, i think will be i the i like ben. i'm interested in where these policies come from. and i chair the select committee the the select committee in the house lords includes house of lords that includes transport remit. so transport in its remit. so i have actually spent some time looking it's looking at this and it's actually up and down the country towns and cities, up and down the country setting the country are setting themselves to themselves targets to reduce private vehicular traffic mileage by between 25 and 30. so where's that number come from? so i asked the minister , is this so i asked the minister, is this coming from a government of own to do with the government? it's nothing to do with the

government. all these are all local decisions. if dig local decisions. if you dig further into what you further into it and what you actually find is that there are academics studies showing that academics, studies showing that if you're going to hit the government's into them, net zero target for 2030, you're going to have to reduce private vehicular traffic by between 25 and 30. and these academic studies, the one or two that have been done, get picked up by the professional organisation ons that represent highways engineers and they get into the policymaking apparatus by that route . and suddenly councillors route. and suddenly councillors are being told this is what you've got to do to meet net zero targets. and some of them are very open to that because they're actually they're very proactive actually not them are and not all, many of them are and all of a you find you've all of a sudden you find you've got these really very draconian policies because to make that reduction, people reduction, even if people are switching say switching to it, because i say to but people switch to to them, but if people switch to electric would electric vehicles, you would have zero effect, wouldn't have a net zero effect, wouldn't you wouldn't need to do this. you and they switching you see. and they are switching many to electric many of them to electric vehicles. this yeah. you vehicles. this oh yeah. but you know the tyres, the tyres have, you tyres make noise

you know the tyres make noise and so on. so it's, it's an ideology which is driven by the fact that the net zero target is in law for 2050 to change that and you have to change law. but the government has set interim targets for 2013, 2035, and they don't make sense in the context of the switch to electric vehicles. they also don't make sense in terms of keeping our cruel art to people . yeah, cruel art to people. yeah, that's what they're cruel to. that's right. and that's it for our town centres where we practise it, just have free parking and encourage to parking and encourage people to drive keep shops open. drive so we can keep shops open. stephen was listening to that stephen i was listening to that and thinking about how keir starmer his statement starmer was making his statement last he was last week in leeds when he was saying wants to devolve more saying he wants to devolve more power to local councils. well, as we can see in oxford, when they've got more powers, they make a mess of it. i horrible dumbing diamond today that labour on track for 314 seat majority at the next general election. good news for you. terrible news. i'll take that with a shovel full of salt. but i we're talking about

i think we're talking about that. i look, the that. and i mean, look, the thing there is local thing is, there is local democracy. in ealing, we democracy. and in ealing, we brought all local brought in all these local traffic. had okay. traffic. you had elton's okay. and we then consulted on it. we agree that in cases people agree that in some cases people actually to keep them and actually wanted to keep them and they well up in they have in south well up in lady margaret, actually lady margaret, they've actually kept places. kept them other places. they didn't. may, labour won didn't. and last may, labour won every along that. every single seat along that. that actually drove the tories in the third party in 80. so you can consult . in the third party in 80. so you can consult. but i think what ben powell something i ben powell said something that i think very, dangerous. think is very, very dangerous. what i just bring what he said. can i just bring a jury what he said. can i just bring a jury attention to this graphic, stephen? so these are the red seats that labour are likely to win in the next election . but win in the next election. but hang on a second. that's ritchie sunak seat up. yes, yeah. but according to this particular poll , this is by savanta, an poll, this is by savanta, an electoral calculus , labour will electoral calculus, labour will have a 20 point voting intention lead which, when converts to seats, would more than double the of mp that courtney the number of mp that courtney has and taking has in westminster and taking which it looks which is it looks it looks like liz truss though so it's liz truss is okay though so it's not all good news is it? but go on, you're going to make it. said something ben said. yeah. i

think he said was actually think what he said was actually very he said is very dangerous. what he said is sometimes mitigation can sometimes that mitigation can actually climate actually be worse than climate change. said that if change. and he said that if i think he was expression for think he was the expression for different weather and he said about could their about people could lose their jobs, their lose jobs, lose their homes, lose their livelihood, you lose their livelihood, if you lose your you lose your home, your job and you lose your home, your job and you lose your home, you another job and you you can get anotherjob and you can get another home. if the weather changes a revocable t, which possible. which is entirely possible. you know, we can the toss know, we can argue the toss about this, but i mean, all the evidence me seems to evidence around me seems to suggest in a suggest that we're in a different of whether not different era of whether or not then irrevocable. you then that's irrevocable. you can't back. it can't turn it back. but is it always not arrogant or always not being arrogant or just can change, you just that we can change, you know, natural cycles? of course, the natural you know, the thames froze in the century, froze over in the 17th century, but you of course but that, you know, of course the weather 300 years ago, only 300 years of course, the 300 years ago and of course, the weather changes through natural cycle, whether you've got manmade not manmade climate change, i'm not denying manmade denying that might be manmade climate there climate change. but there is going to be change and we will have to adapt. even if you got rid the carbon in the rid of all the carbon in the atmosphere back to atmosphere and you went back to where were, there was still where you were, there was still change in in weather. the change in in the weather. the thames over. that wasn't

thames froze over. that wasn't because man made climate because of man made climate change. pre—industrial. change. that was pre—industrial. okay, you do, okay, so you and what you do, you adapt, see? what i've you adapt, see? yeah. what i've always is that if if always thought is that if i if i lived on a beach and i thought the sea was going to rise, i could do a couple of things. i could do a couple of things. i could i could move inland. i could i could move inland. i could i could move inland. i could i put the house on could i could put the house on stilts. could build a sea stilts. i could build a sea wall. what? i wouldn't do wall. okay, what? i wouldn't do is to beach and say is go down to the beach and say to the sea, oh, see if i give up the motor and stop the house party. will you leave me alone? what a of that. that's what does a lot of that. that's what. that's the approach we're taking be taking taking when we should be taking the the dutch. the approach by the dutch. the dutch us you can dutch just shown us you can build out into the sea and build land out into the sea and make new land and it's permanent. you keep to the people a of the people saying a lot of the people saying a lot of the people got to force people we've got to force massive on people with massive changes on people with no explanation what we is we no explanation what we do is we wave climate alarmism at wave this climate alarmism at them say, you're going them and say, you're all going to and no explanation and to die and no explanation and it's good and they're it's good for you. and they're not it. and i think not accepting it. and i think it's that challenge, it's good that the challenge, you about the you know, you talk about the natural one of the natural cycle. one of the reasons lot people are reasons a lot of the people are coming to this country from mauritania, from gabon, from

west africa, is because of desertification, because they can lifestyle, can no longer have a lifestyle, they can longer, you know, they can no longer, you know, jump they can no longer, you know, jump sudan. who jump the janjaweed in sudan. who would, you know, slaughter libya. to do with libya. that was all to do with farming rights. and, you know, where you could actually have your this climate your cattle fed. so this climate change don't think change is real. i don't think i don't think anyone can deny that. and actually that. well, and it's actually driving immigration. these driving immigration. so these two isn't two stories come together, isn't it? some those it? actually, some of those displaced are displaced people are also victims corrupt governments, victims of corrupt governments, of credit, argument. yeah of no credit, no argument. yeah not more rain. not necessarily. just more rain. africa is a fascinating and wonderful place . there's huge wonderful place. there's huge urbanisation in africa, increasing numbers of the population are not dependent on moving there. you know, you see the david attenborough type films of africa and it's all sort of natural and tribal movements and everything . that's movements and everything. that's a very, very small part of african life. now, the people who are coming here are not being i'm not saying there isn't desert ification. it's been going on for decades, but they're not coming here because of an argument a few sheep of an argument about a few sheep and they might graze. and where they might graze. they're often here they're very often coming here

from a degree from urban centres with a degree of education and they see themselves as an opportunity . themselves as an opportunity. they opportunity to they see an opportunity to make a and will travel a life here and they will travel agent at the end of the road is saying, give bucks and saying, give me 3000 bucks and we'll sort it for you. we'll will sort it for you. we've got a pilot lined up. that's the sort of thing that's actually going on. and it is true some countries , people true that some countries, people in suffer when there are in africa suffer when there are wars and violent movements like that left themselves in peace. actually people get on fine and they have a life and they've been moving over the decades from a rural life into an urban life. and we mustn't think of it all like it's all david attenborough where you're fighting with the elephants they've got. well, thank you, gentlemen. i just want to bring in some of your views as well on this this morning of the this tragedy this morning of the boat overturning channel boat overturning in the channel we don't have the latest figures. it looks like at least three people are feared dead as the migrant boat carrying more than 40 people capsized. this at three a and hospital locally

we're told to make way for casualties in a&e . la lisa has casualties in a&e. la lisa has said will we ever wake up to the government having strong goes along effectively deceived us for years now about dealing with the crisis. either the immigration crisis. either our has always our government has always overtly covertly wanted high levels of immigration or that will been an implicit, undeclared understanding with the including france, that the eu, including france, that our remain our borders would remain open probably end the probably until the end of the current parliament. 2024. key messages coming gbviews@gbnews.uk to uk. at the end of the first hour. we'll be right with off the right back with more off the weather . alex deakin here with weather. alex deakin here with your latest weather update. it is another cold one today. many places , plenty of bright winter places, plenty of bright winter sunshine , but we do still have sunshine, but we do still have some snow showers . and ice is some snow showers. and ice is a continued risk of it. still very windy in shetland. it's the low pressure, the ice about squeeze in together, very windy conditions in shetlands blustery right across northern scotland. further showers here mile further snow showers here mile that try to get into the southwest through the night. and there's some rain from these weather across weather fronts across the channel but otherwise

channel islands. but otherwise it is dry quite cloudy at it is mostly dry quite cloudy at times because parts of eastern england and showers coming england and snow showers coming in northern scotland with in across northern scotland with that gusty winds and a few wintry showers just affecting eastern parts of england and northern of northern northern parts of northern ireland. could here as ireland. so it could icy here as temperatures stumble to get up to three or four celsius and many places staying at one or two degrees quite quickly those temperatures will drop back below this evening as below freezing this evening as well. we'll snow well. we'll see more snow showers across showers coming in across northern scotland . yellow northern scotland. yellow warning place here. warning remains in place here. it remains windy as. warning remains in place here. it remains windy as . well, it remains windy as. well, although the winds perhaps not quite strong for many. again, quite as strong for many. again, it's clear , cold night. it's just a clear, cold night. there could be some mist and fog and temperatures will tumble evenin and temperatures will tumble even in towns and cities. look at that. birmingham, minus five celsius, negative double figures where there's snow lying on where there's any snow lying on the and we've got the ground and well, we've got showers. it could icy showers. again, it could be icy parts northern ireland, parts of northern ireland, northeast along northeast england, along with these continuing across these showers continuing across northern scotland. that continues through thursday. so we could i say, we could see, as i say, a further covering of snow over north—east parts north—east england, parts of northern and especially

northern ireland, and especially northern but for most northern scotland. but for most it will be another sunny but cold day with temperatures struggling to one or two degrees in most places again likely to icy as things freeze up during thursday evening as the map turns blue once more, it is staying cold into friday but some side of a change over the coming days . we'll see some more coming days. we'll see some more snow perhaps coming into scotland and northern ireland on friday. and then things turn wetter the weekend, but also milder .

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we'll have the latest from our homeland security editor and an immigration lawyer on this unfolding story this morning about a people smuggling boat of around 47 people that has capsized in the channel ofsted have also released a new report this morning is our second topic but has the quality of children's education and social care recovered post—pandemic ? care recovered post—pandemic? and what about the needs of special education? students two that's all coming up after. look at the latest news with right . at the latest news with right. thanks, beth. 11:01. here's the latest . three people have died latest. three people have died and 43 have been rescued after a small boat incident in the engush small boat incident in the english channel. border force, lifeboats and a royal navy patrol vessel are now actively involved in a rescue operation off the coast. we also understand that a number of people have been airlifted by helicopter . the incident comes helicopter. the incident comes less than 24 hours after the prime minister announced renewed plans to tackle illegal

migration . and secretary suella migration. and secretary suella braverman will make a statement in the commons on the issue at around half past 12. former brexit secretary david davis told us the big deterrent for migrants would be for them to pursue their own claim from their own home. the people who have got a claim , let's say an have got a claim, let's say an afghan who's maybe been a translator for the british army in afghanistan during the war, there are now of course, will be a subject of oppression by the taliban government, where he and his family got, in my view, almost an absolute right to come here. similarly, we might choose to offer not asylum but succour and support to ukrainians. we can't do any of those things if our resource is are completely mopped up by people basically abusing the system . inflation abusing the system. inflation has fallen to 10.7, down from 11.1% in october. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says inflation down is his top priority and plans are in place

to reduce it by half despite the full labour says the figure is still too high and shows the weakness of the uk economy . weakness of the uk economy. around half of britain's rail lines are closed today as rmt members staged their second day of strikes across the country . of strikes across the country. thousands of workers at network rail and 14 train companies have walked out , leaving some rail and 14 train companies have walked out, leaving some parts of the uk with no train service at all. it's part of a long running dispute over pay, jobs and conditions. it comes after the rmt rejected an offer of a 5% pay rise this year with another 4% next year . royal 5% pay rise this year with another 4% next year. royal mail is accusing the postal workers union of holding christmas to ransom as members staged fresh industrial action over pay and conditions . it's after postal conditions. it's after postal staff rejected what royal mail says is their best and final offer . the 9% pay rise over 18 offer. the 9% pay rise over 18 months. general secretary of the communication workers union, dave ward told us the pay offer

is not genuine . we would accept is not genuine. we would accept 9% if it was truly % and that 9% if it was truly% and that means the full value of 9% on bafic means the full value of 9% on basic pay. the company are not offering 9% if they were. i'm saying live on air now. we would that part of the dispute . we've that part of the dispute. we've made that clear to them. we put that in writing and also part that. by the way, we asked them if they were to confirm that along with some jobs commitments that we've spoken about , then we that we've spoken about, then we would have suspended today's strike . the snp has announced strike. the snp has announced plans to introduce a to bill allow scotland to hold its own referendum on independence . the referendum on independence. the party aims to amend the 1998 scotland act, which details what holyrood can and cannot legislate on. it comes almost a month after . the legislate on. it comes almost a month after. the supreme court ruled the scotland cannot hold a second independ dence referendum without approval from west westminster . a man who killed

westminster. a man who killed and sexually assaulted law graduate zara elina in east london will be sentenced today. jordan mcsweeney had targeted more than one woman before he attacked the 35 year old as she walked home from a night out in ilford in june. he had been released from prison just days before her murder and had been ordered to be returned by the probation service . people living probation service. people living in shetland could be without power until the end of the week as freezing weather conditions worsen . around 70 extra worsen. around 70 extra engineers have arrived on the island to help restore electric city. some airlifted in after almost 3000 homes lost power. yesterday, the scottish government declared a major incident as heavy snow brought down electricity lines. meanwhile, the met office has extended a yellow warning for snow and ice around the country is now in place until friday. ukraine's air defence systems shot down 30 iranian made drones this morning as explosions were

heard in the centre of kyiv. the mayor of ukraine's capital, vitaly klitschko, says universities and restaurant nuts were struck along with two office buildings. they said that no one appeared to have been wounded . the prince and princess wounded. the prince and princess of wales have released their official christmas card for our radio listeners. the image shows william and kate walking along a path in norfolk, hand in hand with their children prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis. it comes after the king and queen consort released their own christmas card image last weekend . you're watching gb last weekend. you're watching gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. so let's get back to beth . beth. break a morning. beth. break a morning . welcome back to break a morning. welcome back to bev turner. today on gb news. if you're just joining us, three

people have died and 43 have been rescued after a boat carrying migrants overturned . carrying migrants overturned. and in the channel, we'll be bringing you the very latest news from dover and talking about how the government can get on top of this issue once for and all before more people tragically lose their lives. also, our schools in crisis . also, our schools in crisis. this comes as ofsted released their annual report warning recruitment still remains a frustration for schools . but how frustration for schools. but how is children's education being impacted? post—pandemic i'm going to be joined by my two guests this morning in about 30 minutes. take a look at the days biggest stories. is mick lynch losing support as it's emerged? railway scores are losing up to £5,000 for his strikes . and of £5,000 for his strikes. and of course, this show is nothing without you and your viewers to do. email me, gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to give me your opinion on everything that we discussing this morning . so

that we discussing this morning. so a migrant boats carrying around 47 people capsized in the engush 47 people capsized in the english channel overnight, throwing dozens into the water. a government source has confirmed that three people have sadly died and 43 have now been rescued following a joint operation involving the coastguard , the royal navy and coastguard, the royal navy and french military vessels . so french military vessels. so let's go to our home and security editor mark white for an update from as the sun continues to brighten a little down there, mark, but a very bleak day . yes and that search bleak day. yes and that search and rescue operation is still under way. it began before 3 am. with reports the people had gone into the water. either board heard or partially deflated. rescue rushed to the scene, as did local french fishing boats that were closer in. now those french fishing

fishing vessels, we understand , fishing vessels, we understand, were able to pull some people to safety. then of course, border force, the lifeboats , a royal force, the lifeboats, a royal navy patrol , hms severn, all navy patrol, hms severn, all managed to get to the area along with two coast guard helicopters . and we're told that some people were transferred from the small boat itself, which was still at least partially inflated . others were in the inflated. others were in the water and were pulled from the water. now, the latest information that we have at this stage is that there are three people who have died . but as people who have died. but as i say, that search and rescue operation is still . there were operation is still. there were reports of another two people being spotted in the water a couple of hours ago. we don't know how that particular operation to recover those individuals has gone. but given the temperatures in the water in the temperatures in the water in the channel at the moment, anybody in the water for that length of time, clearly it's not

good news all. we know that a number of people have been taken to hospital. the area ambulance of coast guard helicopter have been seen flying , ferrying been seen flying, ferrying patients to a local hospital. the trauma unit in ashford , the trauma unit in ashford, london, ambulances were seen here at dover harbour as well to await those who were brought in earlier today. and of course, as the search and rescue operation gets under way, there will be the inevitable questions about what happened here. clearly these small, flimsy boats out in these small, flimsy boats out in the middle of this very busy shipping lane is , a very shipping lane is, a very dangerous enterprise. at the best of times, but exactly what went wrong, we don't know yet. we are told that the home secretary suella will be making a statement on this tragedy. 1230 today in the commons. so hopefully we'll get a bit more information from her. but as i

say, still an active search and rescue operation. a number of asset there from border force from the coast guard, from the lifeboat service and local fishing boats and other traffic that out there in the channel being asked to keep an eye out for anyone else that may be in the water and to compound all of this bav throughout the morning. there have been more reports of small boats coming across the channel. we understand that at least four small boats have been spotted in the water and into supported by british maritime assets. and of course, in doing that and then having to pick them up and bring them here. that's border force vessels, lifeboat boats that are not involved in the active search for those in the water here. so very complicated, messy search creation there. one that the prime minister said he was determined to get on the front

foot with announcing a raft of measures in the commons yesterday, including, of course , the setting up of this small boats, operational command to better bring together border force and the maritime rescue services as well as the military and the national crime , with and the national crime, with a view to being much more joined up in the way that they deal with what is just a growing, growing crisis . 45,000 people growing crisis. 45,000 people have crossed this year close to double the number who crossed in the whole of last year. mark, i was discussing with my guests this morning lord moylan and former labour mp stephen pound . former labour mp stephen pound. one of the statements that rishi sunak made yesterday and his five point plan about being able to arrest or prosecute out more gang led boats pilot than we were discussing. what does that look like? the pilots of these boats , do they then hop to boats, do they then hop to another boat as they near the

coast? why is it not easier to arrest some of these individuals who are leading these groups over the water ? well, they have over the water? well, they have to identify , first of all, who to identify, first of all, who is actually driving the boat and not saints. so the person who is minding the motor and steering that boat towards the kent coast. now, what happens is that you will get those who want to come across the english channel and who maybe don't have the £3,000 or whatever it is that the people smugglers are asking for . so a deal the people smugglers are asking for. so a deal is done and they are given a reduced ticket price or they are allowed to cross for free if they become the pilot . free if they become the pilot. but of course, in becoming the pilot you leave yourself open to prosecute. and there have been about 100 people who have been arrested since a change in the law earlier this year to make it an offence to cross channel illegally . and so the not

illegally. and so the not arresting everyone that's coming across but those that they can identify by that are actually driving the boats and coming across in the pay, if you like, of the people they are being arrested . so that's what's arrested. so that's what's happening in terms of the pilot . interesting. thank you for clarifying that, mark. thank you. we'll be back to you no doubt this morning as this story unfolds. mark white there down in kent. so joining me now to discuss this a little further is uk immigration lawyer hijab, singh . and from migration singh bangle. and from migration watch, uk limits. welcome gentlemen. morning. just your responses first from both of you on on this news hijab, if i can start with you . it's very tragic start with you. it's very tragic . i mean, if it was waiting to happen, we've seen it before . happen, we've seen it before. the amount of crossings there doesn't seem to be a way to stop them. and we're ineffective at stopping the gangs. and that's why all the talk yesterday , why all the talk yesterday, there was no mention of how to stop the gangs and how we're

going to stop people from making money out of this. i mean, to them, each boat, money out of this. i mean, to them, each boat , unfortunately, them, each boat, unfortunately, is sum of money . and just as is a sum of money. and just as we've heard , there's another we've heard, there's another four on the way today that have been intercepted . so it's been intercepted. so it's necessary to stop the gangs and the people who are profiting from misery essentially . thank from misery essentially. thank you. our view is been getting in touch to matt and nick has said what ? this is what happens when what? this is what happens when governments wake opportunistic and faff about. it's a sad thing . assessment. i think a lot of people feel that way. i yeah. i mean, it's tragic . one human mean, it's tragic. one human life. but really is something thatis life. but really is something that is always going to happen for so long as the boats keep coming . and why it's imperative coming. and why it's imperative that the government does everything possible to make sure that they stop. sold for so long as people think that having arrived in this way they can get

to stay . i'm arrived in this way they can get to stay. i'm afraid arrived in this way they can get to stay . i'm afraid that they to stay. i'm afraid that they will continue to come . it's got will continue to come. it's got to stop. as a as a lawyer , hijab to stop. as a as a lawyer, hijab , how well how do you think this will change the thoughts of people looking to come over here this morning? you know , from this morning? you know, from from now on, we know that there's a lot of really the. our policy here is not sufficient deterrent. do stories like this do tragedies like this feed through to those people wanting to come over and act as a deterrent? or is the determination and such to come here that as you say, they will still be jumping on boats today? i think there will be this this won't act as a deterrent. it might do a few to a handful of rather to the majority won't because they're sold such a story by the people, trafficking them. and they're told actually, you get to any visas in the uk, you get to any visas in the uk, you can't get to any safety in the uk until you land there. and they're the only ones providing they're the only ones providing the service of doing that, of

sending the people over. so the people who want to get to the uk will come regardless and are using the services we have to cut off the gangs and these gangs of well organised, the sophisticated , but they're using sophisticated, but they're using the same routes for the last 20 years. they get on at the same place, they send the boat to the same place, they're using the same place, they're using the same methods . same place, they're using the same methods. earlier on same place, they're using the same methods . earlier on they same methods. earlier on they used lorries , you know, used to use lorries, you know, the 2000s era and now they're using the boats and it's quite astounding that the fact that interpol , the uk armed forces, interpol, the uk armed forces, the sars uk intelligence and mi5 of the french intelligence and in fact all of the europe's intelligence and security forces put together , including the put together, including the border force, cannot catch these people or stop these people . so, people or stop these people. so, i mean , is there an i mean, is there an unwillingness there or are they just incompetent enough? what is the purpose of our security at border forces , our armed forces? border forces, our armed forces? surely we can go and pick up a

fugitive like bin laden from a village in pakistan. we can go and find saddam hussein holed up in his stronghold and destabilise an area we can't catch. a handful of gangs who are trafficking people over who are trafficking people over who are using the same method. it's like someone using the same bathroom. but the last 20 years with the same driver catching it every day and we're saying, sorry, mate, you all about sorry, mate, what you all about can't him. don't know who can't catch him. don't know who does it. and it's quite astound him for that fact. where are the resources out. but it resources going? out. but it does doesn't this was does seem, doesn't it? this was a omission from rishi a glaring omission from rishi sunak statement yesterday in his five point plan , most of which five point plan, most of which it seems we can already do anyway. it seems like lot of hot air. would you like to see him focus on on plans to crack focus more on on plans to crack down on the on the trafficking gangs ? i think that there's gangs? i think that there's plenty of work going on with our agencies working with with the french, working with other countries as well in cracking

down on them. but there's only so much you can do if there are literally thousands of them who are engaged in this business. but look what rishi sunak announced yesterday . i think announced yesterday. i think everyone should say great, we welcome it . it's only everyone should say great, we welcome it. it's only a start. i would have liked to have heard a lot of what he said yesterday , lot of what he said yesterday, four years ago, frankly, when this whole boat business start it and i just saw it that it has been going on a long time. they were coming in the backs of lorries. they were coming in in the backs of lorries when i was an immigration officer, 50 is ago. it's nothing new. is ago. so it's nothing new. is different, though , are the different, though, are the numbers that are now coming across and for so long as it proves successful , proves successful, notwithstanding what's happened today , i'm afraid people will today, i'm afraid people will still prepared to pay money to traffickers to get them over

here. and while that is going on, the traffickers won't hold back at the charity . refugee back at the charity. refugee action have said that it's hostile government policies which make child deaths more likely. what to make of that? i i think that's nonsense . it's i think that's nonsense. it's also a wicked thing to say , also a wicked thing to say, frankly, because other people would argue it's precisely the ngos and this sort of group saying that of thing that actually encourages people to come here. so let's not get into that futile debate . okay. all that futile debate. okay. all right. thank you , gentlemen. right. thank you, gentlemen. that was immigration lawyer, thing fangirl and out moment from immigration watch now after the break, ofsted have released their annual report . a staffing their annual report. a staffing shortage is still impact the sector but has the quality of children's education and social care. we covered post pandemic i'm thinking not of i'll tell you all about it. official .

break very good morning. it's 1124. very good morning. it's1124. this is bev turner today on gb news. now they've gone largely unnoticed. but i wanted to put some attention on them this ofsted latest report says, arguing that staffing shortages in the education sector have compounded the problem of children's delayed development dunng children's delayed development during the pandemic. over a million children have special educational needs in england . so educational needs in england. so what impact has the pandemic had on their educational journey? well, i've got a viewer here, annie simpson , a parent who annie simpson, a parent who cares for her daughter , special cares for her daughter, special educational needs . thank you for educational needs. thank you for joining me so i think these numbers on a page always look very interesting, don't they? when you see these sorts of reports from ofsted , over reports from ofsted, over a million children in england

receive and support includes state funded primary secondary special schools non—maintained special schools non—maintained special schools non—maintained special schools for . but i special schools non—maintained special schools for. but i think where this comes to life is when you hear actual human stories of what this is like for parents. so what is it? what is the situation like now in schools for kids with extra needs and how does that compare to, say, when your daughter was? how old is your daughter now? 11. so she's 11. so is your daughter now? 11. so she's11. so when is your daughter now? 11. so she's 11. so when she first started a school in reception, she got better. no, it's got significantly worse . i think significantly worse. i think what happens is i think firstly, my story is the same as many parents . and so it is parents. and so it is representative of what's on. but you know what is that? children start reception and as the demand increases, they become less able to cope within those mainstream environments. less able to cope within those mainstream environments . and mainstream environments. and schools are reluctant to apply for gp's because it takes up a

lot of work and then they do so begrudgingly . and keep is or an begrudgingly. and keep is or an see needs assess meant is a legally binding document and you know what should happen is that anyone who's looking after that child should be able to pick up this document be completely aware of their needs and how they need to be supported. but they need to be supported. but the reality is that children aren't getting that support. right. so is that an educational health care plan? yeah. and that will be determined by who ? who will be determined by who? who does the assessments? who decides what? that children with what that child requires? well, it's multi—disciplinary , so. but it's multi—disciplinary, so. but if ultimately it's the local authorities who are supposed to do this. right so during lockdown , there have been all lockdown, there have been all sorts of obstacles. and they've been saying , well, we don't have been saying, well, we don't have speech and language therapists or, you know , we don't have we

or, you know, we don't have we don't have psychologists . you don't have psychologists. you know, if you have a child who has mental health needs and they require a camhs referral, there's a two year waiting list. yeah. and so what does that mean in real time? what that means is that the child becomes less able to cope , they deteriorate . the to cope, they deteriorate. the schools aren't able to cope and send children a crash and burning out of education all the time . there are thousands and time. there are thousands and thousands of children out of education. so that special needs children. i was doing a story yesterday on the show about children who were on a limited time tables because teachers are having to factor in discipline issues. post—lockdown i guess you would say. i imagine quite a few of those children have either undiagnosed educational needs or diagnosed, but they're not getting the support that they need. yeah, they could be. that absolutely could be a factor. and i think you know, if we look at, you know, what we term as bad behaviour , you know,

term as bad behaviour, you know, it's often a sign of distress . it's often a sign of distress. it's why these children behaving this way and why is there no support and that you know, that firmly at the feet of the local authorities and they know that they have a legal obligation to do this and they are routinely the board breaking the law. and that's what this ofsted report showed. and so what's one of the reasons for you that they've given us why they can't offer your daughter the help that she needs? your daughter's autistic? yeah. and but highly functioning child , i believe. and so, yeah child, i believe. and so, yeah what about that? what do they tell you is the way what are the barriers to support? they just say, got enough say, we haven't got enough money. no. because they money. no no, no. because they do the money. because what do have the money. because what happens is they just run the clock just the clock . so clock. it just run the clock. so they're not having to spend it . they're not having to spend it. they will drag out these things . i get the. yeah. and then they see i spoke to a sancho of a secondary school and she basically said that what happens

is that the, the primary school system will drag the clock , drag system will drag the clock, drag the clock, drag the clock. and then these children go to secondary school without the support . and you need to terms support. and you need to terms of evidence . so then they start of evidence. so then they start off secondary school with no support until year eight. and then if been referred to camhs , then if been referred to camhs, well they're not going to do the gcses with any support are they. and this is the problem. we know that prisons are full of adults with adhd. so there is a huge impact you know, if you fail the children , you know, we want all children, you know, we want all of our to grow up to be fully functioning members of society . functioning members of society. we want them to contribute and we know they contribute, you know, a huge companies are, you know, a huge companies are, you know, putting big programmes in place swiftly for diverse individuals because we how much they can contribute but if you setting them up to fail what does that look like what's the impact like on a family when you

have a child that you're fighting for? because i get the impression that you're probably pretty good in these meetings and with your and you go in with your information. you're to sit information. you're able to sit here on tv and talk about it some parents won't have that toolkit. absolutely. toolkit. yeah, absolutely. i think i really worry. you know, i think that, you know, parents are ghastly that, you know, are so ghastly that, you know, they'll say it's not a problem or it's okay . and, you know, or it's okay. and, you know, i think there's a language barrier or sometimes just a cultural barrier and your the type of person that believes when someone in authority tells you to do something that's as it should be. if you don't have the capacity to question it. and also the emotional capacity , you also the emotional capacity, you know, because you are looking after your child with special needs. do you feel like this ofsted report it will make any difference difference ? i have difference difference? i have a big question . i'm very cynical big question. i'm very cynical because . ofsted have been aware because. ofsted have been aware for a long time that this is a problem . what needs to happen is

problem. what needs to happen is authorities need to be held accountable . if you and i broke accountable. if you and i broke the law , there would be the law, there would be a consequence . these local consequence. these local authorities are ripping , authorities are ripping, heatedly breaking the law and it's costing them thousands and thousands of pounds, taking parents have send children tribunal. so there is the money. yeah, but you know, we know that at the sort of assessment point parents have a 90% success rate fighting local authorities and tribunal. so they're losing. yeah so really it just needs to. yeah so really it just needs to. yeah there needs to be a world awareness, there needs to be awareness. but i think that doesn't need to be more , you doesn't need to be more, you know, poor training . and there's know, poor training. and there's that this new idea parents will if they can't get their children into schools, they'll be fined yeah they're already having a hard enough time. can you imagine trying to get a 15 year old having an autistic meltdown

school? how are you going to do that? yeah, like physically , that? yeah, like physically, yeah, absolutely. but their support to be that we're all responsible for this. you know, the at the bottom of the mountain doesn't work . okay, mountain doesn't work. okay, arnie. thank you, arnie . right arnie. thank you, arnie. right after the break, i'm going to be joined back by my panel in just a moment to discuss the top stories of the day, including they would like to ask the prime minister, as we get closer to pmqs at 12:00. lots to discuss after your morning's news with ray . thanks it's 1132. after your morning's news with ray . thanks it's1132. here's ray. thanks it's 1132. here's the latest from the gb newsroom. three people have died and 43 have been rescued after a small boat capsized in the english channel. border force lifeboats sunday. royal navy patrol vessel has been actively involved in the rescue operation off the coast . the incident comes less coast. the incident comes less than 24 hours after the prime minister announced renewed to

tackle illegal migration . the tackle illegal migration. the home secretary suella braverman will make a statement in the commons at around 12:30. inflation fallen to 10.7, down from 11.1% in october. the chancellor jeremy from 11.1% in october. the chancellorjeremy hunt says chancellor jeremy hunt says getting inflation down is his top priority and plans are now in place to reduce it by half. despite the fall , food inflation despite the fall, food inflation is still rising. hitting a 45 year high last month of 16.4. around of britons, rail lines are today as rmt members staged their second day of strikes across the country over pay, jobs and conditions. thousands of workers at network and 14 train companies have walked out , leaving some parts of the uk with no service at all. it comes after the rmt rejected an offer of a 5% pay rise this year with another % next year . royal of a 5% pay rise this year with another % next year. royal mail another% next year. royal mail is accusing the postal workers union of holding to ransom as

its members staged fresh industri action over pay and conditions . it's after postal conditions. it's after postal staff rejected it. what royal mail says is their and final offer of 9% pay rise over 18 months. general secretary of the communication workers union, dave ward told gb news the pay is simply not genuine and the number of people who died in an explosion a block of flats in jersey has now risen to eight. the islands police says formal identification has yet to take place and one resident is still missing . the cause of the blast missing. the cause of the blast which happened in the early hours of saturday morning , st hours of saturday morning, st heuer hours of saturday morning, st helier is still under investigation . on tv online , on investigation. on tv online, on disney plus radio. you're watching the people's channel gb news bath . we'll be back in just news bath. we'll be back in just a moment .

very good morning. it's 1137. very good morning. it's1137. this is bev turner today on news. my guests are back here with me a former labour mp stephen pound and conservative peer the house of lords. lord moylan now stephen mick lynch, is he going to lose support? he is he going to lose support? he is loving it today. is loving it. is it looks like such a happy man on the telly, you know, beating his fist, his flat cap and telling us how we need rail strikes and he's going to if you wanted somebody fight in your corner he's kind of the man to likeable easy. well to do not so likeable easy. well i thought that he lost it yesterday i know we don't like to talk about mine a news outlets but there's one call to be oh rather my be something oh rather my interview the morning yeah be something oh rather my inter\and the morning yeah be something oh rather my inter\and it the morning yeah be something oh rather my inter\ and it ended orning yeah be something oh rather my inter\ and it ended withg yeah be something oh rather my inter\ and it ended with hiseah yeah and it ended with his people piling on saying mr. hussain's father was the head of the pakistan security. so it was pretty awful. look, i would have thought i mean, mick lynch everybody said he's a very very

canny operator. was dreadful canny operator. he was dreadful on news for you. on have i got news for you. and as someone dreadful on have as someone was dreadful on have i you i recognise that i got for you i recognise that but look if he was really clever what he would is look, i've what he would say is look, i've listened to what people have listened to what the people have said, call off the said, i'm going to call off the strikes give christmas strikes to give you christmas and have a deal. then and we can't have a deal. then we'll be back on in the new yeah we'll be back on in the new year. that would have been really, really good deal. instead with it's instead of which going with it's good be back oil flat good to be back with oil flat cap the brazier it's like cap around the brazier it's like arthur died. arthur scargill never died. well oh no we didn't. okay, fair enough. and that's the sad thing. did lose his thing. he did lose his co—ordinate. well, mess co—ordinate. well, it's a mess obviously £84,000 a year obviously he's on £84,000 a year and workers are and yet the rail workers are losing up to £5,000 a day for the strikes . he wants to happen. the strikes. he wants to happen. i don't really understand . you i don't really understand. you know, nobody knows . £5,000 a day know, nobody knows. £5,000 a day losing know, nobody knows. £5,000 a day losin g £5,000 a day. but the losing £5,000 a day. but the truth is that rail workers are i used to be deputy chairman of transport for london. i used to have a take account of the unions and the rmt and aslef were doing. though i never negotiate them directly because you need professional

negotiators for that. the rmt , a negotiators for that. the rmt, a very successful union and they get a lot of what they want and but the truth is that as a result of that, rail workers are generally pretty well paid compared to much the workforce . compared to much the workforce. they're pretty well paid and they lose money when . they go on they lose money when. they go on strike and way to see off an rmt strike and way to see off an rmt strike is you have to stick it out . yeah. one of the reasons out. yeah. one of the reasons that they go on strike tuesday and thursday, of course, is they and thursday, of course, is they and then they turn for work on a wednesday when the trains are all the wrong places. they get they get three days disruption. but then you lose two days pay. one thing i do i but the government as i'd say we're going means of docking going to find a means of docking the for the day in the pay for the for the day in the pay for the for the day in the middle because it's when it huns the middle because it's when it hurts in pocket. so they hurts in their pocket. so they start drifting back to work. so it's quite hard for the rmt to sustain very strikes . and sustain very long strikes. and they've it this with they've played it this way with . disruption disruption . disruption here, disruption there , maximum disruption there, maximum disruption for minimum loss of pay.

there, maximum disruption for minimum loss of pay . but there minimum loss of pay. but there will come a point quite soon, even if they got there. every demand on pay, they would still worse off as a result of the strike. well, they're still getting two thirds in strike pay- getting two thirds in strike pay. i mean, the rmt has a massive war chest in a number of the unions have a amount of the unions have a huge amount of money to and don't get money put to and you don't get 100% your pay when you're on 100% of your pay when you're on strike, because in strike, mostly because in transport you've got your basic salary overtime . and salary plus your overtime. and don't know, you get don't forget, you know, you get pretty good money for somebody working, on the other hand, working, but on the other hand, they are actually getting that i seeing it it didn't work seeing it out it didn't work with miners and i just don't with the miners and i just don't see it working. he was very aggressive yesterday in these interviews and there is some speculation is because speculation that this is because he he's losing the support he knows he's losing the support of of his members. he's of some of his members. he's also going to lose the support of the public , isn't he? because of the public, isn't he? because this time of the year we've had two bizarre disrupted semi remote zoom christmas thanks to covid decisions and now we're all looking forward to a to a christmas together and genuinely the impacts of this on families

that will not be to travel is real it is real but i think you overestimate the effect of pubuc overestimate the effect of public opinion on the rmt even if mick lynch is sounding aggressive it's much more likely because they're very factionalised . the people who factionalised. the people who run it, they're not united. i mean, they all hate each other at the top of, the rmt and they're all disagreement on fine points of doctrine . and points of marxist doctrine. and if he's sounding aggressive one day, it's because he's about some faction on whatever he's got to appeal to inside the union. he is not thinking about the on he's not worried about the on he's not worried about the effect on public opinion. these are the guys who like to be hated. they like to be unpopular. this is the one union that you know it's that actually you know it's hallmark is you know, we're the bad guys and we don't mind being the bad guys. so i don't think he's that worried about that. the members eventually will decide and they will be affected by how much money they lose. bob crow, of course, made a big thing about being a bill wolff. and, you know, yeah, nobody

likes us, but we don't care. that's right. i think it's the myth that they're the myth that the. they're the millwall yeah it millwall union. yeah it that that insult to millwall that accident insult to millwall ready to be attributed. it is true it is a bit of why is this going to go though if you know we've got mark harper transposing actually telling you news outlets yesterday we don't have bottomless of money. have a bottomless of money. you've mick lynch becoming you've got mick lynch becoming more and more and belligerent on every interview we go into christmas is more disruption. what does this look like in the new year? well, look, kuttner comes a point where either the government says we can't bear the pain anymore, so we'll give them everything. they've nearly everything they want. and then we pretend we haven't or you come a point the unions come a point where the unions say can't bear the loss of say we can't bear the loss of income and we'll we'll we'll we'll give up you will claim we've total victory because whenever the rmt do anything at the end of it, they would claim it was a total victory. that's their standard phrase. so they claim total victory, but they're settle something less, right?

and you just see who's now and you could just see who's now have that's out. have cracks first. that's out. just quick question. it just one last quick question. it is, wednesday, so we is, of course, wednesday, so we have a slightly truncated show on a wednesday. you in pmqs today, do you today, steven pound, what do you get rishi sunak you got get to ask rishi sunak you got question wouldn't do what question what i wouldn't do what everybody this of everybody does at this time of year know, what year and ask, you know, what would like for your would you like for your christmas present? i'd say morocco, france, would you support? morocco why support? morocco if not, why not? lord moylan , i'm afraid not? lord moylan, i'm afraid mine's a bit more serious. i'd it's mine's a bit more serious. i'd wsfime mine's a bit more serious. i'd it's time now you've been prime minister for a while . is it this minister for a while. is it this side of christmas or the other side of christmas or the other side of christmas they're going to set out your vision for the country and what you see , where country and what you see, where you see, where you see yourself . us. yeah. the next two . us. yeah. over the next two years and beyond . well, i'm very years and beyond. well, i'm very reassured that as a conservative lord you don't know the answer to that question either, because none of do. well i, i'm none of us do. well i, i, i'm a conservative lord, yes, but i'm also just an ordinary party member. i happen to vote for liz truss. i did so at this date that when. well on your network that when. well on your network that went well. yeah and i won i

know but i haven't got i've got somebody else and i wasn't asked second time round so i'd like to know the answer. i'd have asked them if they'd been hustings. okay. fine. thank gentlemen okay. fine. thank you, gentlemen . don't see before, have a . if i don't see before, have a very you to say to very. would you like to say to you. well, say stephen you. well, can i say stephen pound me box of pound brought me box of chocolates today, but we box the house commons so house of commons chocolates so you and you know, you can come back and you know, well , i was at you can come back and you know, well, i was at the house of lords so you can bring me the house of lords chocolates next time , right? must move on it time, right? we must move on it has flown by. coming up next is tv news day with mark longhurst . i'm bev turner see tomorrow morning at ten alex deakin here with your latest weather. it is another cold one today. many places seeing , plenty of bright places seeing, plenty of bright winter sunshine . but we do still winter sunshine. but we do still have some snow showers . ice is have some snow showers. ice is a continued risk . it's still very continued risk. it's still very windy in shetland. it's low pressure. ice about squeeze pressure. the ice about squeeze coming together, very windy conditions in shetlands, blustery right across northern scotland. further snow showers here, mild that try to get into the southwest through the night

. and some rain from . and there's some rain from these fronts across the these weather fronts across the channels. otherwise it is channels. but otherwise it is mostly dry quite at times across parts of eastern england and snow coming in across snow showers coming in across scotland with that gusty wind and a few wintry showers just affecting eastern parts of england and parts of northern ireland. so it could be icy here as temperatures stumble to get up to three or four celsius and many places staying at one or two degrees quite quickly . those two degrees quite quickly. those temperatures will drop back below freezing this as below freezing this evening as well. see snow well. we'll see more snow showers coming in across northern scotland. yellow warning place here. warning remains in place here. it windy as well, it remains windy as well, although the winds perhaps not quite as strong for many. again, it's just a cold that be it's just a cold night that be some mist and fog and temperatures will tumble even in towns and cities. look at that. birmingham minus celsius, negative double where there's any snow lying on the ground well. we've got showers again , well. we've got showers again, it could be icy parts of northern england, along northern ireland. england, along with showers continuing with these showers continuing across northern scottish . that across northern scottish. that continues thursday. so

continues through thursday. so we could see, as i say, a further covering of snow over north—east england, parts of northern especially northern ireland and especially northern scotland. for most northern scotland. but for most it will another sunny, but cold day with temperatures struggling to one or two degrees in most places again likely to turn icy . things freeze up during thursday evening as the map turns blue once more. it is staying cold into friday but some signs of a change over the coming days we'll see some more snow perhaps coming into and northern ireland on friday and then things turn wetter through then things turn wetter through the weekend, but also milder here on gb news live, we'll be keeping you in the picture, finding out what's happening across the country, finding out why it matters to you. we'll have facts fast with our have the facts fast with our team of reporters and specialist correspondents wherever it's happening , be there in 12 noon happening, be there in 12 noon on tv, radio online gb news peoples channel. britain's news .