good evening we'll tonight can harry and meghan sink any lower as they launch all out against the royal family will speak to the royal family will speak to the skipper first exclusive interview of the boat picked up 31 people in the english channel yesterday asked why hsbc withdrawing all funding for nonh withdrawing all funding for north sea oil and gas exploration will look at ron desantis. question knowing some of the vaccine manufacturers . i of the vaccine manufacturers. i don't talking pints i'll be joined by tominey, formerly sunday express. now daily telegraph shortly to be a

presenter on gb news, but all of that comes after the news with tamsin roberts . nigel, thank and tamsin roberts. nigel, thank and good evening from the gb newsroom tens of thousands of nurses are taking part in the biggest strike in nhs history. picket lines have been set up and. england, wales and northern ireland in the first of 212 hour walkout over pay . staff are walkout over pay. staff are providing some urgent care, but surgery and other planned treatment is disrupted . health treatment is disrupted. health secretary steve barclay says the union's call for a 19% pay rise is unaffordable . we also is unaffordable. we also recognise the huge contribution we saw from nurses during the pandemic . that's why last year pandemic. that's why last year we made a special case where nurses got an extra 3% when others in the public sector did not. but we've got to balance that against what is laudable to the wider economy and. asking

for a 19% pay rise way above , for a 19% pay rise way above, what most viewers themselves are receiving is not affordable given the many other economic that we face. network rail workers have voted overwhelmingly to accept pay offer. it affects two and a half thousand members of the tsa. the rmt remains in a separate dispute with network rail after its members rejected offer earlier this week . meanwhile, earlier this week. meanwhile, ground baggage at heathrow airport have suspended planned strike action after , receiving strike action after, receiving an improved pay offer. more than 400 staff members had been set to a 72 hour walk out tomorrow morning. the unite union says , morning. the unite union says, it will now ballot its members and other planned industrial action in place pending outcome . the prime minister making his first trip to northern ireland since taking office tonight. he's expected to host in formal

talks with political leaders in an attempt to end stormont suspension. sunak will also use trip to promote the government's investor in shipbuilding in belfast . he says the deal to belfast. he says the deal to build royal navy support vessels create thousands of value jobs . create thousands of value jobs. the four boys who died after falling into a frozen lake in solihull have been named by west midlands police. eight year old finley butler , his six year old finley butler, his six year old brother, samuel , their cousin, brother, samuel, their cousin, 11 year old thomas stewart, were taken to hospital where they died on monday. the fourth child who reportedly to save the others has been named as jack johnson, age . the families say johnson, age. the families say are devastated by the loss . the are devastated by the loss. the boys in such tragic . the royal boys in such tragic. the royal family gathered at westminster abbey this evening . a christmas abbey this evening. a christmas carol service hosted by the princess of wales and attended

by the king. the together at christmas concert being attended by nearly 2000 people and a service to recognise selfless efforts of individuals families. the royal put on a united just hours after the second instalment of harry meghan's controversial netflix docu series was released . by tv series was released. by tv online radio. this is gb news. now it's back to . nigel. now it's back to. nigel. good evening . i don't expect you good evening. i don't expect you to sit through another 3 hours of netflix of harry and meghan. i mean, that's too much to ask of. but i do think and i know some people have e—mailed me to say goodness, but why do they keep talking these people? but i

do think important because actually, as far as the royal family is concerned, it's reputation going on from here. i think what has today might just be quite significant. let give you a little taster what prince harry had to say in this document so called documentary about his own brother and relations with the press. i would far rather get destroy horrid in the press than play along with this game or this of trading and to see brother's office copy . very same thing office copy. very same thing that we promised the two of us would never, ever do . that was would never, ever do. that was heartbreaking . oh, dear, oh, heartbreaking. oh, dear, oh, dear odette, let's just have one more, if you can bear it. just one more clip. this is harry talking . their relations with talking. their relations with the daily mail and meghan's miscarriage . i believe my wife miscarriage. i believe my wife suffered a miscarriage because of what? the mail that i watched

the whole thing . now do we the whole thing. now do we absolutely know that the miscarriage was caused by that. of course we don't . but bearing of course we don't. but bearing in mind the stress that caused the lack of sleep and the timing of the timing pregnancy, how many weeks since she was i can say what i saw that miscarriage was created by what they were trying do to her. what i think they're truly dreadful people? i think the absolute disrespect they showed to harry's grandfather when . they did the grandfather when. they did the big interview with oprah winfrey . they knew he was on his deathbed . think in the deathbed. i think making in the last couple of years of the queen's life as difficult as they did, alone trashing his they did, let alone trashing his father, brother , the father, his brother, the institution, the commonwealth i think that ghastly . but i'm think that ghastly. but i'm asking you, do you think they can sink any lower. give me your thoughts farage at gb news top you. well somebody may have a more informed opinion than me, but i don't know what he's going

to say is former bbc royal correspondent michael cole that attack on his own brother is quite extraordinary . a lot of it quite extraordinary. a lot of it is . nigel quite extraordinary. a lot of it is. nigel goodness it's over. we've seen the last parts. it hasn't been the sermon on the mount . it's been six sermons mount. it's been six sermons from montecito in california . from montecito in california. and each one of them has been 60 minutes long of self—justification and self—pity. it's not a good look . and when it comes down to it, it's glossy , it's well—made , it's glossy, it's well—made, it's glossy, it's well—made, it's slick. the two main protagonists , very polished protagonists, very polished performances . but really, what's performances. but really, what's the message . the message is the message. the message is we're right. they're wrong . we're right. they're wrong. we're wonderful and they're horrid. and as intimated, it's not really documentary. it's

more a lifestyle of the rich and famous and woke. it is. it is a six part advertisement for them. there's a of talk about love. but a lot of things are not mention . and it. looking at it, mention. and it. looking at it, i thought, well , what happened i thought, well, what happened to the happy prince? where's he gone? the jack, the lad who was the most popular royal? i mean there's almost never been. wasn't he ? he was. he was hugely wasn't he? he was. he was hugely popular and so were both of they were both in this country. they couldn't have a greater and warm welcome . so when you see this , welcome. so when you see this, you slightly and think, well what really have they got to complain about? what was so difficult ? what was so awful difficult? what was so awful aboutin difficult? what was so awful about in a palace . at stage? about in a palace. at stage? harry says that he , for his own harry says that he, for his own survival . now, this harry says that he, for his own survival. now, this is a guy who gallantly served his country two tours in afghanistan as a

forward artillery and as the front seat in an apache attack helicopter. he could have been shot down by the taliban. he could have come back in a body bag. that is pressure . what are bag. that is pressure. what are we talking about here ? this is a we talking about here? this is a this is well, this is family feud. but but all this, you know, doing this peace and love, this is very west coast american. this thing where everyone's got a therapist. there's an awful lot of that in this. but he is attacked. i mean, michael, he's attacked his brother today in the most way. he's basically said his father was absent . you know, he was was absent. you know, he was brought up by people in different parts the world. i mean , have their roots all mean, have their roots all families have their difficulties . but this has been done. soap publicly and surely if you are the king or you're the prince of wales , you've got to think to wales, you've got to think to yourself. this has been done actually to damage the institution itself. it's a terrible to see brothers , one of terrible to see brothers, one of the worst things you can ever

see. but these brothers are princes they're princes of the blood royal and all of this behaviour over matters which are relative really trivial. it's all very eastenders. not buckingham palace . and i don't buckingham palace. and i don't think it dignify this anybody involved . i think it's highly . involved. i think it's highly. but actually at the end of the day, of course, there are some nasty. it's done by innuendo . nasty. it's done by innuendo. there's never any direct accusation and certainly fact or facts and had there been an attack on kate princess of wales or the queen camilla. i think that there would have been a stronger reaction on that, wasn't there ? and so you have to wasn't there? and so you have to say to yourself , is wasn't there? and so you have to say to yourself, is this all about ? they've shut out about so about? they've shut out about so on on the basis they played they had the cards. but i think that's a reasonable assumption to make. but you know, they've gone for gold with this. should the palace respond or and

the palace respond or ignore and move well, had they come move on. well, had they come with some really specific effec? alex nations who said what when it happened what the consequence was. but we don't get that we innuendo we get suggestion . i innuendo we get suggestion. i would have said that they should have responded line line and rebutted it. and i understand the palace is has a dossier of things that they think are wrong or straightforward and misstate bits of fact and maybe they will respond. but think they can safely ignore , do you? yes, i do safely ignore, do you? yes, i do . of course. what we don't know what's going to be in his book called spare, which is going to be published in january, although my wife saw it on a discount in woodbridge, the other day. so we know much about it, about how how of an impact this book is going to have. but if he wants to rattle a few royal skeletons , then maybe the royal skeletons, then maybe the king will consider removing

their titles. king will consider removing theirtitles. hrh his and her royal highness. why not it now? well, because i. think we have to go a little bit further this road. of to us a title doesn't matter but in royal circles that's big medicine that that . that's big medicine that that. and if was said that would be a very strong of disapproval. and can't say it's not merited but the fact is they've burned their by an now and body and so by netflix . and they want to live netflix. and they want to live in california . in a way of in california. in a way of course prince harry is fulfilling destiny of his mother because at the time of her death she was actively considering moving to california. she always felt the americans give her a break and there was a possible issue that she would live with. dodi at former julian dodi fired at the former julian cruise and blake edwards mansion on the beach at malibu. so and i think he refers to that in one of the one of these episodes that we've lived through

gruelling we've lived through every sitcom, and most of our audience have heard . you hear audience have heard. you hear that? what was that? well, i think if they do look at it, what i'm very encouraged by is fact that women usually get it. and i think 60% of the audience will be women . they will judge will be women. they will judge her and. they will judge whether meghan is the most wonderful kind , compassionate . liberal kind, compassionate. liberal person that ever lived and a wonderful or whether she is actually the becky sharp of our age know in vanity fair that wonderful about a go ahead . so wonderful about a go ahead. so we have to find out but this this exercise i'm not quite sure what it was for apart from the fact that netflix have got a hugeinit fact that netflix have got a huge in it they want they're trying to make money it's a commercial undertaking of course and getting they're getting the they're very pleased about that . but if it's just a one note

sussex samba and all they've got to offer is the royal family. well after a while, that gets a little tedious, like nicole, thank you for joining little tedious, like nicole, thank you forjoining me. and i that actually rather reassuring because i think they were out to do a lot more that. thank you for joining us this evening. now before 3:00 yesterday morning, about eight miles south of dungeness in the english channel of dungeness in the english channel, there were some pretty dramatic events. and right at the very middle of all of it was the very middle of all of it was the of a scalloping the skipper of a scalloping boat, our tourists and. raymond strachan joins me on line now. he's still out at sea still working hard, still fishing . working hard, still fishing. raymond thank you very much indeed for joining raymond thank you very much indeed forjoining us. we've indeed for joining us. we've heard all sorts of stories . just heard all sorts of stories. just tell us, please, exactly what happened and how dangerous it was yesterday morning for those

people people . how do you manage people people. how do you manage all? yes, i just i left it up over that 12 year. and more than that was on my bed and they wouldn't keep of my cabin door shut, would make it? so i got cabins went both pillows and i looked over the sides of my window and it was amazing how. i got off my throwaway of fishing boats. that's when i knew it wasn't a situation was going be difficult . yeah. i mean it must difficult. yeah. i mean it must have been awful that you right. when you managed to get one of them onto your vessel. i know some of them you'd brought out of water. and i understand you were putting them in hot showers and fighting them dry clothes and fighting them dry clothes and all the rest of it. and fighting them dry clothes and all the rest of it . that's and all the rest of it. that's correct, yes. when we've seen a guy, correct, yes. when we've seen a guy, one of them making, it's hot enough to throw away. one of

my crew went on deck and threw him a lifeline and we pulled him alongside the boat. then i started home fishing . i we've started home fishing. i we've lost the line . yeah, we have lost the line. yeah, we have lost the line. yeah, we have lost . sorry, we lost the. the lost. sorry, we lost the. the last time spoke to raymond. he was 20 miles south of the east coast. but look , we got him on coast. but look, we got him on the line for a bit. he explained. he did. now, you know the politics of this , and nobody the politics of this, and nobody has been more outspoken about, all these young males coming into our country, you know, with dubious motives in some cases and of course, without passports , id. but i myself involved in a rescue two years ago. there were there were two young men in the water i hope one of them by the hands and trying to drag it by with the goggles. i couldn't do it because. he was limp. he was he was getting hypothermic. and so whatever the politics of it, these were human beings with many . and many kids, among them. and actually it was a miracle. i

think a miracle that scalloping boat just happened to be as close to that boat. i have little doubt that if our sheriffs had not been there, the toll and we think it's eight, but there are still people missing. the death would have been 40 or more. a lot longer after raymond did what he did . after raymond did what he did. the lifeboats were launched . one the lifeboats were launched. one of our name. which one? but one of our name. which one? but one of them reached the same . a of them reached the same. a pretty grim scene , an pretty grim scene, an extraordinary early part of the rnli crew dived over the side to save somebody. i mean quite extraordinary . again, their job. extraordinary. again, their job. their job is to save lives, not theirjob is to save lives, not to make political judgements. yes, i've been critical of the bigger taxi service in the past . i have to say what they did yesterday morning was above and beyond the call of duty . and beyond the call of duty. and isn't it great that we have people in this country prepared to things in return for to do those things in return for no money? what so ever in. in a

moment i'll discuss hsbc his decision to withdraw all funding for future north sea and gas and just how mad i think that is.

i asked you can and meghan sink any lower some of your responses coming . ryan says almost coming. ryan says almost certainly . they really are certainly. they really are hideous people. king charles needs to them of their titles and money and excommunicate them from royal family. they have betrayed both the royal family and whole united kingdom . ron and whole united kingdom. ron i'd like to try and argue you on that, but i'm afraid i simply. daryl says i would like this . daryl says i would like this. i'm waiting for harry and meghan the season two, the divorce . i

the season two, the divorce. i want you as it is. yes for the money. they will sink lower and lower . well, maybe they will. lower. well, maybe they will. but i think the important point about today is they've got no more cards to play. they've pretty much said all they've got to say they're spent. there's nothing more they can do. you know, for the of millions of dollars they've from netflix they would had to mean you know they would had to mean you know they can't now to say more things about the royal family all the last few years and maybe michael cole was right maybe actually the palace can just safely ignore this and move on knowing there were levels of pubuc knowing there were levels of public respect in this country. both of them are very low. only prince andrew is lower than now. first thing this morning on the bbc website, where else could it possibly have been ? we saw the possibly have been? we saw the news that banking giant hsbc is to cease all future and

involvement, oil exploration and extraction projects in, the nonh extraction projects in, the north sea. they're doing it. they have a commitment to net zero. well, isn't that absolutely wonderful . but i absolutely wonderful. but i wonder what their actions actually reduce levels of global c02? and actually reduce levels of global co2? and what does it mean for british economy, given that since the excess taxes i see them anyway have been put on nonh them anyway have been put on north sea oil and gas already? are many companies talking themselves about perhaps not going to projects? joining me is knight, former ceo of energy uk . angela this hsbc decision a surprise or not? not entirely because the major banks, the plc sees those with shareholders who have to put out their annual reports, those who have to show what they're doing about the call it esg. you know, the environment social governance issues of, which net zero is one

are under huge pressure from all sorts of quarters not to finance new oil and gas. now it's a foolish thing to pressurise these in this way. it's foolish because we've got to have a plan is it their own shareholders pressure? whether they hear it from a lot of people of their shareholders, yes . because of shareholders, yes. because of course, the shareholders in major places in this country and indeed elsewhere , a big indeed elsewhere, a big investment funds and pension . investment funds and pension. and they are putting on the pressure now to have net zero as far as their own investment are concerned. so they're looking through those who they invest to see, you know, are they going to meet with standards that they say that they have to set. so we're on we're on a road at the moment to which many of us of which one say absolutely do think that we should aim for a low carbon environment here and elsewhere and make sure that we

do things and as appropriate manner as possible but to chop off financing oil and gas means that in effect you're prepared to say well my mum and dad or my grandparents going to end up without power at some time because we haven't got the fuel in place to go through this transition period and that has never been thought through properly. and it's also never been thought through properly. what the actual cost of net zero is. and so i say let's put it out on the table and. let's all be sensible and not, you know , be sensible and not, you know, stick on the one hand which says today and has got to be the same today and has got to be the same today but no take that really view which say you know i'm going to do this but. it's still going to do this but. it's still going to do this but. it's still going to be 25 or not going to reduce global emissions. so we'll just imported and gas which we will. but actually what ihope which we will. but actually what i hope will happen is that the finance which actually is the case of much this oil and gas exploration and certainly the smaller end does not necessarily

have to use the major and therefore it will be financed by different means. now, all this puts an added complexity in it. and actually i don't it's easy to criticise hsbc. i do actually the bind that they have been in and that's why it has to be taken at a far more sensible level than has been the case for e56 level than has been the case for esg investing, despite fact that last year in the stock market it was coal stocks and oil stocks that did remarkably well, not esg investing. well, you can actually argue things like investor in nuclear power is actually very esg. you can argue that invest in in gas for the transition purpose is also very esg because right now because we haven't actually managed our energy security as well as we should have done, we're going to have to light up the coal fired stations that we've got left. do you know, i think that's a good thing because in favour of i think thing but you've got a country having no you're country having power. no you're , not having power. you're going

to our futures. us, you're to steal our futures. us, you're going destroy planet . and going to destroy the planet. and i to myself in i was going to lock myself in a country on the m25. yeah. i mean these arguments that get these are the arguments that get put but emotional doesn't put and but an emotional doesn't put and but an emotional doesn't put the table doesn't put food on the table doesn't put food on the table doesn't put on feet and it put shoes on your feet and it doesn't keep your house warm having plan properly having a decent plan properly costed of how you're getting from where you are to where you would like be is what is required . and that means required. and that means pragmatism , and i'm afraid i'm pragmatism, and i'm afraid i'm a bonng pragmatism, and i'm afraid i'm a boring old, pragmatic . no, i boring old, pragmatic. no, i really am. clearly be. i'm sure grasser will be most upset you. i'm sure she will quicksort do end with on monday. i talked about the fact that renewables were to 3% big as that big were to 3% as big as that big high pressure side over the country there was an country. there was an extraordinary moment when electricity traded electricity prices traded per megawatt at 100 times the megawatt hour at 100 times the average for the last three years. steel plant in the years. every steel plant in the country closed production for that didn't that that day. i didn't see that being mentioned the bbc. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe mentioned the bbc. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe getitioned the bbc. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe get a)ned the bbc. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe get a proper the bbc. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe get a proper debateic. how that day. i didn't see that beiwe get a proper debate about? do we get a proper debate about? and that is exactly what should be know, be mentioned. because, you know, how think that we manage how do you think that we manage on days the renewables aren't

the because the wind doesn't blow, the sun doesn't shine and we've the coal down to we've got the coal down to cyclone just hanging over us. but hanging europe. and the answer moment is shut answer at the moment is you shut down the major electricity users, which are big industrial plants is that coal rationing and that is called in one stage in one way and the other way. of course, these are contracts that they have to in the past, but the reality of this needs to go out there to british people out there to the british people because. all about jobs. because. this is all about jobs. it's about keeping it's all about keeping production uk . so production here in the uk. so put in the round and i never, put it in the round and i never, neven put it in the round and i never, never, never favour anybody who just goes out and says i want and i want this thing and i want this thing only that doesn't work. what you do when you're a child, when a grown up, you have to have your plan. you have to have pragmatism. you have to work how from a to b and work out how get from a to b and you have to include in that sometimes uncomfortable and sometimes very uncomfortable and right to the green right out to the to the green lobby, very thing is lobby, the very thing is renewables work in renewables doesn't work in winter . i renewables doesn't work in winter. i like that. very good. well here on gb news we are

having these debates and of havingrt’hese debates and of we havingrt’hese debates and ef we allow havinqtbese debates and at we allow all of the course we allow all of the argument to go by. you know, i've had just up oil in my studio with all these people. we allow that to happen, but it an astonishing thing that the broadcast act but tony broadcast sting act but tony blair in says blair brought in in 2001 says that on around carbon that on issues around carbon emissions climate change, emissions and climate change, global warming, the science settled. therefore, there is no need for broadcasters to provide impartiality, which they have to do every other subject. it is a remarkable thing. we have five. angela, thank thank you for joining me in the studio last night. rhonda sanders the governor of florida , made, i governor of florida, made, i think, a pretty extraordinary press statement in which he said in florida, it is a crime to misspell products and. the vaccine manufacturers told people , take these vaccines and people, take these vaccines and you will not catch, but many did. he's calling for a grand jury did. he's calling for a grand jury to investigate . i think jury to investigate. i think that's rather interesting . we'll that's rather interesting. we'll deal with that in a couple of minutes .

back in october a keen viewer of gb news decided write to uk visas immigration and to ask a very simple question which was how many hotels are being taken up in the united kingdom by asylum seekers . the response asylum seekers. the response that this person got was 269 hotels were being taken and that was back in early october and i was back in early october and i was able to muse on air with you that i thought by now it must be over 300. well i apologise for misleading you. i should never do that because a letter dated the 28th of november from uk visas and immigration has said that as of the 11th of november there are 499 hotels being used

temporarily accommodate asylum seekers. well see just how temporary that is. but i mean that actually an astonishing , that actually an astonishing, truly astonishing rate of change and just complete the picture of what is happening in the channel. of course, we focus on what happened yesterday the deflation of that boat the saving of lives the eight we believe for certain died four more missing perhaps more 401 was the official figure for those that crossed the channel and went into the reception centre at the port of dover. and i promise this saturday it looks calm the numbers once will be enormous and that's more more hotels, more butlins, more pontins, whatever may be. and the government keeps talking, but doing very little . now, last but doing very little. now, last night, the governor of florida, ron desantis gave a very press conference and this is he had to say about vaccine and vaccine

manufacturers day i'm a petition with the supreme court of florida to empanel a statewide grand jury to invest any and all wrongdoing in florida with respect to covid 19 vaccines and we anticipate that we will get the approval for that and that will come with legal processes . will come with legal processes. we'll be able to get more information and to bring legal accountability for those who committed misconduct misconduct . well, carol kilgore is london based american lawyer. welcome the program. desantis does go for it, doesn't he? thought from from what knowledge i have of american law that manufacturers of all kinds of vaccines were basically. well i mean from prosecution . that's correct prosecution. that's correct nigel manufacturers distributors administrators which would even

include your school nurse who administers a vaccine to a child without the parent's consent still enjoy very broad immunity under a law that was actually originally under george w bush in 2005. and it's since then in 2020 and 2021 been used for the covid pandemic. so what 2020 and 2021 been used for the covid pandemic . so what desantis covid pandemic. so what desantis is doing is quite actually because he's the vaccine immunity statute by bringing the possibility of criminal action under florida law. i see. because this is for british audiences . they don't understand audiences. they don't understand just how much autonomy the individual states have. so do you think what desantis is doing what he's basically saying is you told us when you sold us this product that if we got this double vaccine, we couldn't catch covid. and yet we found actually, we catch covid. does he have some chance of a grand

jury he have some chance of a grand jury fighting against companies? well, first of all, grand juries almost always follow the prosecute order. so they're going to be 18. people will be chosen at random and prosecutor will nudge those 18 people to try and find enough evidence to indict whoever is responsible. now holds, as you mentioned, to the actual deceit , the lies, if the actual deceit, the lies, if it can be shown and there's enough evidence and they find probable cause that the people responsible at the vaccine manufacturers , especially if manufacturers, especially if they lied about or even if they didn't check sufficiently enough, if they didn't confirm. and would that be perhaps part this is whether the trials were fully that could also play into it. unfortunately we be able to hear any of the witnesses testimony that goes before the grand jury because that's kept secret . but what will come out

secret. but what will come out of it within 18 to 36 months will potentially be an indictment . and if that happens indictment. and if that happens , then florida becomes the test grounds and other states can do similar their criminal codes. wow this could be a very big deal wow this could be a very big deal. governor yes, this could be a very fascinating carol. thank you for coming in and explaining that to us. the trouble with all of things is we'd all like to know which way doesit we'd all like to know which way does it go in the next fortnight . but as carol explained, it's going to be best part of a couple of years before we know where this guy is in the moment. be joined on talking sides by camilla tominey , a long time camilla tominey, a long time journalist, broadcaster to start her own show on gb news and a well known royal commentator . to

the it's that time of the day. yes, it really it's talking pints my favourite part of the day. i should see by camilla . camilla, should see by camilla. camilla, welcome. lovely to talking pints very much . so the first time we very much. so the first time we met you were on a sunday express 7 met you were on a sunday express ? yes. place to pick up the sunday express and you'd see reporter camilla tominey royal. reporter camilla . i would reporter camilla. i would happily . jobs that you have had happily. jobs that you have had for because i was political editor royal editor a columnist and i wrote the leaders and that was the kind of lead lead machine that the sunday express was called love it. and we came into contact, didn't we? because i think we can pretty much say that 100% of sunday express readers were brexiteers . i think readers were brexiteers. i think my editor at the time martin townsend said they'd never had a letter from a remainer in all of the time. he was after about 17 years himself so we sort of saw brexit coming ahead of a lot of the and journalists right actually it was the express

newspaper group that came out for britain to leave the european year in 2014. yes. way before the rest of the press . before the rest of the press. how was it like working for richard desmond ? an interesting richard desmond? an interesting experience. i mean, had this reputation that preceded him we didn't see him all that much, actually on the newsroom floor. there lots of about, there was lots of talk about, you know, always talk is you know, there's always talk is there about ownership, interference editorial. there about ownership, interference editorial . and interference in editorial. and actually, i never really saw that. i had to interview him once he gave load of once because he gave a load of money. moorfields and so i was sent with my notebook down and was intimidated as was slightly intimidated as a quite reporter sort of quite rookie reporter sort of take and take notes. and i think i started him and he said, you don't to call that. it don't need to call me that. it be also. i just thought be richard also. i just thought i show respect . well i should show some respect. well you know, he was extraordinary bloke. extraordinary bloke, obviously . hugely successful obviously. hugely successful bloke, not necessarily in a journalistic terms. you know, that's sometimes we had struggles over pay and things which i nigel i even which i believe. nigel i even with and got picketed i with the nuj and got picketed i went to strike. it wasn't very successful most people didn't go on strike they just work for.

but it was interesting times it was just get big on a newspaper the readership was extremely engagedin the readership was extremely engaged in what we were . the engaged in what we were. the paper meant everything to on bse. our standard reader was of, you know, a brexit voting woman in her sixties living in blackpool. and i felt we were reaching parts that others didn't . brexit required us to didn't. brexit required us to travel the length and breadth the country actually find out like you do and gb news does, of actually finding out what is being in outer of the being fought in outer of the westminster bubble, which is well, that of course got well, since that of course got onto the telegraph. but you've done radio done television and lbc radio and of things and i your job and all of things and i yourjob at the telegraph again is quite broad a way isn't it. yeah broad in a way isn't it. yeah write a lot of different write about a lot of different subjects. do the subjects. i mean, i do the column i could write about column which i could write about anything, go to decide what i'm going write it paper going to write it on paper tomorrow then politics tomorrow and then i'm politics and and actually i'm and royals and actually i'm exhausted . what. yeah. what are exhausted. what. yeah. what are you what's it? five years? i mean, when consider everything that's gone on. we were marvelling today because marvelling it today because i had get up at the

had to obviously get up at the crack dawn binge all of the crack of dawn binge all of the remainder of the netflix documentaries i'd some sympathy for that we'll come to that someone's do it well well someone's got to do it well well i did say earlier on that i very much hope that our viewers and listeners didn't have to put themselves through it because we ask who had ask experts who had telly watchers my commentary? watchers read my commentary? the telegraph. watch telegraph. you could even watch a i sum all up. a video when i sum it all up. but so politics and royals, if something going the something isn't going in the building something's building behind us, something's on over there. so on in the palace over there. so there's never a dull moment and actually engage actually both beats they engage readership they're interesting has happened you know and troughs obviously covering the queen's probably the biggest story i've ever covered in my whole and been doing it whole career and been doing it for more than 20 years having started out on local nuclear. but clearly not busy but clearly you're not busy enough. no, no, no enough. i'm because no, no, no because on sunday the 8th of january sitting in this very chair in the studio , what are chair in the studio, what are you going to be doing, camilla? so we're going to be doing a very punchy and full, we hope politics show over 90 minutes on

a sunday morning, taking on competition for you . oh, oh, competition for you. oh, oh, there we are . we all know that there we are. we all know that you chose to advertise show. so i thought that was a given. we're having a fight with you. precisely so you're joining of the sunday morning programme and we just want it to be informative and entertaining we want it to be politics that a punch but not necessarily full of strange gotcha moments where it's all about the presenter not about the guests . there's some about the guests. there's some very serious issues for the politicians of this country to answer and we them to do answer and we want them to do that. we don't want to do it that. we don't we want to do it openly debate and with openly with debate and with audience participation. okay this people's channel. so this is the people's channel. so we want the people to be involved in the questions we're answering some answering and also analyse some of answers. so it's going to of the answers. so it's going to be jam packed because we want it be jam packed because we want it be pacey we want to take on the competition, far competition, you know, for far too long had this assumption this default that people this kind of default that people will bbc or and will watch the bbc or sky and why should they when we could perhaps even perhaps produce something even more that's more interesting. well, that's no what channel's no absolutely what the channel's to do. i'm sure you'll add

to do. and i'm sure you'll add to do. and i'm sure you'll add to it greatly. and no wonder do you the multimedia award you want the multimedia award for because you do all for 2021 because you do all sorts different but sorts of different media. but here's other thought on this. here's my other thought on this. you busy , you're you know, you're busy, you're ambitious, you're quite driven . ambitious, you're quite driven. you've got three kids. yeah, everyone talk about work life balance, how it all work. what's that ? well, work life balance , i that? well, work life balance, i think i am a bit of a workaholic but most journalists at the top of the game all you have to be you can't off stuff keeps on happening all the time that you need to react to. but obviously my primary is a mother and my primary is as a mother and that's important. but i think that's important. but i think that kind of gives me a bit a real life perspective. i always about the netflix documentary, just discussing it with a few women office and. you women in the office and. you know, perception meghan know, this perception of meghan and, the world and, i feel like the world is divided two of women, divided into two types of women, women need to helped women that need to be helped into gown and women who into a ball gown and women who put the bins out. i'm probably in the latter category and proudly i just there's proudly so i just there's a sense a pretty sense to which live a pretty real life, you know running sense to which live a pretty real lif

writing stories about prime minister the minister resignations the afternoon. kind of afternoon. but that kind of keeps me grounded i think and no boozing no . and would you boozing no. and would you believe it? i know you frown on this because i wonder i watch lunch with you it's easy to imagine i. i don't frown it. no because actually the truth is that it suits some and it's disastrous for us. exactly i think i've written before that drinking makes some people unwind and others unravel. yeah, i would say i was in the latter category very sadly, i've written about this as well. my mother chronic alcoholic mother was a chronic alcoholic and, drank herself to death in 2001, aged only 54. so i kind of felt that i needed to break that cycle. i felt the apple perhaps didn't far from the tree i wasn't good drinker but like you yeah can't hold my pints . i yeah can't hold my pints. i decided to just stop entirely . decided to just stop entirely. and in a way you say about kind of work life balance. that helps because . i haven't really got because. i haven't really got time to be drunk or hung over and i find that i'm more productive without the i don't mind, by way, wants to mind, by the way, if wants to get slaughtered me, i don't have

an objection. i going out. i love socialising. i just i don't love socialising. ijust i don't want to be drunk . final thought want to be drunk. final thought from you . you know, you've from you. you know, you've worked for a conservative with big c or small c newspapers , so big c or small c newspapers, so you hold opinions yourself . you hold opinions yourself. where's the conservative party going ? nowhere at the moment, i going? nowhere at the moment, i think. i mean, i'll be intrigued as to what you are planning actually with my hat tonight as to whether what direction you might be going in, in terms of trying to hold their feet to the tory flame because we're sort of in this situation all readers hated jeremy budget. i mean they loved liz truss budget but they didn't like the execution. yeah i don't think they want those ideas to die. i think they're worried brexit and whether it has done , whether it has has been done, whether it has been rather than been half baked rather than a fully deal and think they fully baked deal and think they worry about the future direction of the moment they're of the at the moment they're facing a kind hobson's choice because think that there's because they think that there's only a paper between sunak only a fact paper between sunak and starmer and you know i don't

necessarily think it's labour's election to win i think it's the tories to lose because nobody's on their doorstep cheering for labour right now . people are labour right now. people are totally disaffected . it may be totally disaffected. it may be as well . just people want as well. just people want change. they've had 12 years of tories and they've had enough . tories and they've had enough. and that pattern, that cycle does , repeat doesn't it quite does, repeat doesn't it quite regularly. but are going to mount opposition it . don't mount an opposition to it. don't know. i know i've know. i mean i you know i've talked it openly many talked about it openly many times. bruised by the times. i'm very bruised by the 2015 general election, very bruised by 4 million votes and one seat. yes, very bruised. that the seat in which i stood, they just cheated wholesale, broke the law without on what happens gets a suspended sentence . the result stands so sentence. the result stands so for it's a big decision to take on the first past the post system. but i, i think whatever happens here whatever i decide to do or not do i think we're crying out for a party that does actually believe in smaller government, believes in the individual entrepreneurship. and we're way it at the we're a long, long way it at the moment. do think you can

moment. but do you think you can take over the edge without the kind of promise brexit? because i know you've about i know you've talked about people not. i is people but it's just not. i is it. i think you i've got to ask myself , are we it. i think you i've got to ask myself, are we on it. i think you i've got to ask myself , are we on the verge of a myself, are we on the verge of a political revolution or this political revolution or is this just a in which the just a moment in which the people a disenchanted. people are a bit disenchanted. i don't know the answer. you don't know the answer but we're going to and the fact that to find out. and the fact that you're going us find you're going be helping us find out here on, gb i take it out here on, gb news, i take it as a huge positive. thank you. coming on. talking pints thank you very much. cheers . you very much. cheers. okay, it's time for barrage the barrage. i have no idea what you've sent me today, but i've kept another in case questions are too difficult for me mary asks the hard left tried and failed to take political control . do you think that they have moved into the unions to try to destabilise the country as scargill once ? well, scargill is

scargill once? well, scargill is a long time . you've got to be a long time. you've got to be sort of pushing a little bit to remember scargill , the miners remember scargill, the miners strike in 84. look, there's always a hard left element within the trade unions and. there is a hard left element still within. but i don't think it's got any more anymore, which i think is a good thing. i mean, what? i think is a good thing. i mean, what? starmer i think is a good thing. i mean, what? starmer frightened. he was prime really. prime minister. not really. i don't think frightens anybody necessarily. so i think momentum's of money and momentum's run out of money and activists you know, they haven't got a competitive kind of cheer behind. so the point ? behind. so what's the point? they shot at it it they had their shot at it and it didn't work. i with you. what do you time the you asks isn't it time the parties respond to these serious allegations made by harry and meghan. michael cole earlier thought that actually there was nothing here that was specific or damaging or fact based, and it was best ignored to move. camilla, what say you? i think it's just general, kind of like there truth over actual proof . there truth over actual proof. and what are they going to do ? and what are they going to do? provide a running commentary. they might as well maintain a dignified. they're at westminster this evening. the

princess of wales has put on a concert for the whole of the family and apparently people were cheering. we love kate. we love you, william. good good. if i said same, mick asks i have said the same, mick asks , is gary lineker becoming an embarrassed brits? look, i'm it's it is tragic that a man of this talent knowledge , wisdom, this talent knowledge, wisdom, courage why on earth is he doing ? he should be bbc politics. he should be chairing question time . he should be actually a university professor at oxford or cambridge . university professor at oxford or cambridge. he is the university professor at oxford or cambridge . he is the fault of or cambridge. he is the fault of all great political wisdom . do all great political wisdom. do you agree? i feel that a degree of sarcasm in that comment i mean i think he's a good was good footballer. i think he's a great football pundit. but i think he sometimes strays into the territory. bbc bias and it's not necessarily a great thing. well, i thought whole thing was a complete embarrassment. very quickly, seconds, can boris johnson a serious political comeback is tainted comeback or is tainted forever? asks . i can't see him

asks robert. i can't see him coming back . never say never , coming back. never say never, although apparently he's made a million quid since he stepped down from office. that's probably more enticing than going by that, gary laughs. that right. he thank you very much indeed.thank right. he thank you very much indeed. thank you for all your questions i will be back with you it'll be it'll be next tuesday now that i'm with you on the way on monday. but i've got to hand you ever now into the capable hands mark dolan capable hands of mark dolan tonight . the programme ahead . tonight. the programme ahead. i've got a brilliant solution , i've got a brilliant solution, the nurses and i've got a way of getting them their pay rise. got to axe nhs and get rid of woke job titles. i believe that the pay job titles. i believe that the pay rises should come out the current nhs budget . all the nhs current nhs budget. all the nhs costs everybod y £200 billion. costs everybody £200 billion. surely enough is the vaccines safe and effective? no top cardiologist aseem malhotra, he joins exclusively on the show and explains why he's partnering

with tory mp andrew bridgen , with tory mp andrew bridgen, plus kelvin mackenzie on harry and meghan and my big opinion monologue . first up the weather monologue. first up the weather i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office the weather is on the way but it's going to be a frosty friday with some snow likely cause could be heavy in places as well and may cause some disruption particularly on friday mornings hour the friday mornings rush hour the central belt. this is the culprit it doesn't look much does fairly weak area of does it a fairly weak area of low pressure these weather low pressure but these weather fronts will be some fronts moving in will be some wet hitting that cold wet weather hitting that cold air. it could provide some heavy snow later tonight. still a few wintry showers over northern scotland, eastern england, where things be quite icy and things could be quite icy and some mr. faux patches reforming this evening, which be quite dense. but for most it's clear and very cold, especially and it is very cold, especially in the south, as you won't be quite as cold across the north compared to recent nights because here that wet weather is moving in some heavy snow over the highlands and then through the highlands and then through the morning well slip

the morning could well slip through belt of through the central belt of scotland, especially for that rush we see if you rush hour we could see if you said two metres of snow for a time before it starts to turn to rain as we go into the afternoon with potential for some with the potential for some disruption wintry disruption as that wintry weather hits scotland during tomorrow , a few showers for tomorrow, a few showers for northern ireland. most of wales dry and sunny. what's the focus cleared but still cold, struggling to get much above freezing friday freezing. and quickly on friday evening, temperatures drop back below bear that below freezing. bear that in mind you're heading with mind, you're heading out with showers parts . north showers across parts. the north could icy on night and into could be icy on night and into saturday morning . at this stage saturday morning. at this stage the showers will most leave of right at low levels, but some snow is possible. sunny snow is still possible. sunny over hills northern over the hills of northern england saturday and more england during saturday and more snow showers could be gained the highlands of scotland a few showers getting parts showers getting into parts of wales . again of this wales. well again most of this these will be right at low levels . much of the south and levels. much of the south and the east will be bright on the east will be dry bright on saturday at this 45 degrees. most of us haven't seen that for a few days , it's going to a good few days, it's going to turn milder. still on sunday. this area of low pressure moving

in. it's bringing milder air, but it's also bringing strong winds out for a time on sunday, some heavy snow .

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