opinion i'll be telling you big opinion i'll be telling you about a music band called slaves they're very talented but they've changed their for fear of offending people you couldn't make it up it might take it ten a posit his message about everyone getting along that we all agree on my mark mates guest is one of the most experienced and known politicians in the country former conservative home secretary and tory party leader lord michael howard live in the studio but kicking off the show we have the conservatives mp, the one and only michael fabncant the one and only michael fabricant with rishi sunak having seemingly a breakthrough in the illegal migrant crisis and signs of hope for the economy , have they turned the economy, have they turned the corner.7 also are meghan and harry now in britain? we'll corner? also are meghan and harry now in britain? we'll hear from both sides that one. and looking at the other big stories of the day , big personality, of the day, big personality, nightclub owner and entrepreneur. what character this guy is, wayne lineker you

heard me right. this guy is, wayne lineker you heard me right . lots to get heard me right. lots to get through. michael fabricant next. and those are clips of the week. it is friday night. so i want to stimulate you and inform in equal measure. but first, the headunes equal measure. but first, the headlines with bethany elsey elsey . mark, thank you. i am elsey. mark, thank you. i am bethany with your top stories from the gb news room. eurostar says it's been forced to cancel its services to london on boxing day because the rmt strikes will the uk's high speed line. it says more than 40,000 union members strike for third time this week following an ongoing dispute over pay conditions. rmt leader mick lynch says little progress been made during negotiations , but he believes negotiations, but he believes the compromise is achievable. more industrial action is planned for tomorrow . a man from planned for tomorrow. a man from leicestershire who murdered his partner . his leicestershire who murdered his partner. his parents home has been sentenced to life in prison

with a minimum term of 23 years. ross mccullum dating his colleague make a newborough when he strangled cut her throat last yeah he strangled cut her throat last year. the court heard how he tried to cover up her death by hiding her clothes nearby bins and leaving a voicemail on her phone. her family described him as the definition of a monster. i know how difficult it's been for parents and sister to the court day listening to the web of lies by someone making the only move whom she trusted, someone who clearly had no look forward to . we're the ones now forward to. we're the ones now serving the life sentence. no amount of time prison can bring them back. we have to carry on with our lives as best as can. but megan will never leave our thoughts . a man and woman have thoughts. a man and woman have been arrested after two young boys were found at a residential address in east london. the met police and london ambulance were called cornwallis road in tottenham this afternoon. the boys, aged two and five, were

pronounced dead at. the scene. it's understood the man woman were both known to the children and they remain in police custody and police are also investigating a suspected triple murder in northamptonshire. the victims have been named as andrew isaak . he was an nhs andrew isaak. he was an nhs nurse and. her two young children, jeeva jan versace. they were found at a house in kettering yesterday morning. a 52 year old man is being questioned in connection with the deaths . three people are in the deaths. three people are in a critical condition . one person a critical condition. one person has been arrested after a suspected crowd crush a music venuein suspected crowd crush a music venue in south london has just gone missing missing . the met gone missing missing. the met police has launched an investigation and after officers were called to the brixton o2 academy last night . video academy last night. video footage shows a large crowd of people trying to force their way into the concert. police say there viewing social media and

cctv video . and a former lady in cctv video. and a former lady in waiting , susan hussey, has waiting, susan hussey, has apologised for repeatedly asking apologised for repeatedly asking a charity where she was from dunng a charity where she was from during a royal reception. buckingham palace says she met ngozi fulani person and pledged to deepen her awareness of the sensitive liberties involved. ms. accepted the apology and says she appreciates no malice was intended on tv online and did . plus radio. this is gb news did. plus radio. this is gb news now let's get back to . now let's get back to. mark my now let's get back to. mark my thanks to bethany elsey , who my thanks to bethany elsey, who is really from the northeast . is really from the northeast. pull your teeth in as your clip for next week. the northeast of england. isn't she brilliant bethany? look back in an hour's time we kick off as on mark dolan tonight with the legendary

clips of the week. my highlights from days of gb news the good the bad and the ugly at o'clock. in my big opinion, i'll telling you about a music band called slaves who have changed name for fear of offending people. you couldn't make it up in my take it ten a positive message about everyone along that we can all agree on and my mark meets guest is, one of the most experienced and best known politicians in the country, former home secretary and tory party leader lord michael howard is live in the studio . a mock meets special the studio. a mock meets special also on meghan and harry now unwelcome in britain. we'll hear from both sides on that one and looking at the other big stories of the day. another big personality nightclub owner and entrepreneur wayne lineker, you , me, right. so is friday nights and the trains cancelled. so you're stuck indoors . therefore you're stuck indoors. therefore i suggest you grab something cold and fizzy from the fridge or fire up the kettle and let's

have a brilliant night in what better way to start than my gb news clips the week . it's been news clips the week. it's been lively week on gb news, but one topic has been dominating the news agenda. let's take a listen . rishi sunak is being accused of treating asylum seekers like criminals after he also excuse me, i've sneezed during a news bulletin before, but i do apologise . as i was saying apologise. as i was saying poorly that . clearly back on the poorly that. clearly back on the marching powder. i mean strong tea of meanwhile michelle dewberry can always counted on to tackle the really big topics hitting the headlines and luckily she was on hand to give us her take on kate. thanks for that. us her take on kate. thanks for that . says he's just tuned us her take on kate. thanks for that. says he's just tuned in and what i what he says was that noise the news bulletins it was i want to clear that up so i am

i want to clear that up so i am i didn't have the joy though of seeing her i just hate so i have noidea seeing her i just hate so i have no idea if she pulled that weird phrase before and you know we need desperately trying to stop yourself sneezing. well i don't think that really weird faces when you're sneezing. meanwhile sticking with our news bulletins and rhiannon jones has a new power source take a listen comes after the secured power source take a listen comes after the secure d £1 million after the secured £1 million worth of government funding to a plane from london heathrow to new using sustainable aviation flew . oh my god not another flew flew. oh my god not another flew . what the hell is aviation flew ? have i got to wear a mask? meanwhile it's the world cup. of course, we covered it. it was massive. it's going on. england found out last weekend our man paul hawkins was in qatar capturing . all of the colour capturing. all of the colour passion and pageantry. take a look . passion and pageantry. take a look. similar story. i'm afraid one of heartache and drama .

one of heartache and drama. england were very conservative in the first half. not really moving the ball with much urgency . paul couldn't find urgency. paul couldn't find a park or shopping ? where the hell park or shopping? where the hell are you ? you're on a dual are you? you're on a dual carriageway . gb news hasn't got carriageway. gb news hasn't got that kind of insurance. there's going to an hgv behind you if you're not careful . so let's you're not careful. so let's take another look at that . an take another look at that. an accident waiting happen . hiya, accident waiting happen. hiya, civil story, i'm afraid. one of heartache and drama. really england. very conservative in the first half. not really the ball with much urgency . next ball with much urgency. next time you broadcast the motorway, big guy, this is equipment you'll need. can't too safe . you'll need. can't too safe. what a helmet helmet of course it's easy to make fun of others when you're a polished media who

makes it look effortless . apart makes it look effortless. apart from looking at the wrong camera, the mic dropping out , camera, the mic dropping out, wires everywhere . my link here wires everywhere. my link here with nigel farage was seamless . with nigel farage was seamless. i'm done for today. back with you at seven tomorrow. i'm going to hand you over now to mark daly . what well, nigel, a really daly. what well, nigel, a really busy show migrant, so it needs to be sorted out within days . to be sorted out within days. thanks, nigel. nigel nigel, nigel . oh there you are. luckily nigel. oh there you are. luckily now got the hang of this broadcasting . the brilliant broadcasting. the brilliant patrick likes appearing in this segment so much, he started suggesting clips his own. and why not? when get a wonderful gb news viewers producing content like this are their management then they are at the government yeah we've got a family member that owns a really good salary national al khor. i've no idea

what she does she would me it's the most important job in the world but i've no idea there must be loads you funny? i do it whilst i do appreciate you coming on national television in a loving and anonymous family member under bus. i mean is that is that not a concern that you don't know what they do ? i've don't know what they do? i've got no idea what she does none that she works for the nhs sometimes committee writes itself what a ringing endorsement for our health service. talk about value for money . staying with patrick and, money. staying with patrick and, we can't just take the mic out in this section. we need some serious content as well. political charlie peters has been doing important work reporting on the abuse scandal in rotherham and he had a chilling message for council members who he claims have been too silent . the issue and he's too silent. the issue and he's not sure i can make it making a profit. so i'm on camera. members of that cabinet who are still okay. the pot boiling and

the lid is beginning to chatter. we are coming for you . okay. not we are coming for you. okay. not even the fastest can outrun truth. and we know that others meetings and we know that you've ignored the warnings all ignored the warnings for all these and you've escaped these years and you've escaped attention from the media. but that to a very soon that coming to a close very soon you get handle the truth . by the you get handle the truth. by the way, what the hell does the lady is beginning to chat to me? is this what's going on or not? is a chatter . many thanks to the a chatter. many thanks to the breakfast show their expensive crockery by the way well it was now crack on we've got more for you this is my favourite part of charlie peters is rather sly turn take a look across i'm on camera members that cabinet who are still serving okay i'm on camera fair play at least he knows which camera to look at another week of vanilla neutrality from dan watson sitting on the fence as always regards to the meghan and harry

story. remember the golden rule of the show? no spin , no bias, of the show? no spin, no bias, no . i hope it was worth the no. i hope it was worth the money. harry today for the netflix millions and to impress your delusion as to wife and her sycophantic fake hollywood celebrity pals , you have celebrity pals, you have destroyed any of ever having a relationship again with your brother . yeah, relationship again with your brother. yeah, but dan, what do you really think? do you like the couple do you not like the couple? i'm so confused used . i couple? i'm so confused used. i hopeit couple? i'm so confused used. i hope it was worth the money, harry, because today for the netflix millions and to impress your narcissistic delusional wife and her sycophantic fake hollywood celebrity pals , you hollywood celebrity pals, you have destroyed any chance of ever having a relationship with your brother . sorry. still no your brother. sorry. still no idea . guessing they're besties . idea. guessing they're besties. where else could we finish with headliners every night?

where else could we finish with headliners every night ? 11:00, headliners every night? 11:00, the gang get some of the most serious news lines hitting the next morning's papers very quickly with the daily star have got a different take on day's events. yeah so a border collie who has crashed car it was never . well, it was an english border collie so it was an open border post open border policy. you can't follow that. and those are your clips of the week . well your clips of the week. well done to the team for compiling those. if you see any of the output during the week or a few here it's on dab plus on the radio do me a line and just label your email of the week. it could be something serious , could be something serious, something fun, a technical fail, a presenter fail. something fun, a technical fail, a presenter fail . anything that a presenter fail. anything that catches your eye or do send it over clips of the week. we'll do it. of course, next week. look lots coming up. tory recovery

with michael fabricant have the conservatives turned the corner? we'll speak to one of the most colourful members of parliament in house of commons, michael fabncant. in house of commons, michael fabricant . in the studio, meghan fabricant. in the studio, meghan and harry, are they still welcome in britain? and wayne lineker live on the show covering the week's big stories. lots to get through . see you .

in three, stephanie emailed to show clips . the week is fast becoming my highly night on gb news. thank stephanie. how about this from david to mark. that will be a new helmet coming out of your wages. it's use to anyone after hitting the floor like that. let me assure you as a motorcyclist. well dave absolutely right i'm a biker as well luckily this is a naked broken old helmet that i don't use anymore , which works don't use anymore, which works

perfect as a bit of a prop . perfect as a bit of a prop. we'll keep those clips going if you see or hear anything on the channel that you think worthy of clips of the week, do let me know. market gb news dot uk very excited about tonight's show. my mark meets guest after ten is lord michael howard live the studio class my big opinion monologue and my take it on the panel with tomorrow's but first having outlined a five point plan to tackle illegal immigration including deal with the albanian government, send back albanians and potentially positive news the economy with inflation possibly having peaked and with a shallower recession once feared all the conserver showing signs of life , well, showing signs of life, well, someone that's full life, he's got it in abundance , is the got it in abundance, is the fearless and charismatic mp for litchfield fabricantes. hi, michael hi, mark. i remember that hell bit because you gave a lift once back to the house of

commons on the back of your scooter. and i think that was a very help mate. i wore . i passed very help mate. i wore. i passed my helmet to you and took it readily . i'm my helmet to you and took it readily. i'm yes. my helmet to you and took it readily . i'm yes. well, we readily. i'm yes. well, we weren't going to that, will we? but it's legal nowadays michael. it's great to have you back on the show and i see you're wearing a sheep tonight . yeah wearing a sheep tonight. yeah well, it's very comfortable and it's a bit cold here in litchfield, so it's keeping me nice and warm. but a pink sheep like , it suits you very well. like, it suits you very well. let me warm you with, i think what is positive political news for the government . i know that for the government. i know that labour being predicted to achieve a 300 seat majority at the next. i think that's wide of the next. i think that's wide of the mark inflation has like peaked. at least we can hope it has the recession potentially shallower than once feared . it's shallower than once feared. it's all to play for, isn't it ? shallower than once feared. it's all to play for, isn't it? i think that's right. mean, as i tell colleagues and journalists who do agree with me, you know what , keir starmer is tony

what, keir starmer is tony blair. he doesn't inspire people andifs blair. he doesn't inspire people and it's when you look at the polling , it's actually very weak polling, it's actually very weak . the support for the labour party in summer personally. but the conservative party's got to deliver . people will just vote deliver. people will just vote for labour on the basis well, they can't be any worse than the conservative if we don't deliver. i mean, you is this the burden of recovery? i'm going to do my winston churchill impersonation here . i'll read it impersonation here. i'll read it . but like winston churchill now , this is not the end . it's not , this is not the end. it's not even the beginning of the end. but it is perhaps the end of the beginning . and that's what i beginning. and that's what i think. but we've got to sort out the borders as you we've got this multiple plan to stop people from crossing the channel and dissuading people from using people traffic . but it's all people traffic. but it's all very well about it. but we've

got to deliver. we've got to get the straight. now, the governor of the bank of england, as you said, is saying that inflation has peaked. and now, look know the germany , the european union the germany, the european union have higher inflation than we have higher inflation than we have. have higher inflation than we have . and germany has been in have. and germany has been in recession the last six months. but that doesn't cut in the eyes with the electorate because. they're saying we're interested . what's happening here . so .what's happening here. so we've got a hold on nerve because. i think the third thing that we've got to is unity and. you know, sometimes i hear one or two colleagues of mine , look, or two colleagues of mine, look, i didn't back rishi sunak , he i didn't back rishi sunak, he knows that, but he is the prime minister. and i think conservative mps have to support . now, how that five point plan go down. tory backbenchers , how go down. tory backbenchers, how is it going down in lichfield . is it going down in lichfield. well it's going down. well as i say we, can deliver. look what at the moment on al—bayda

albanians. but you know there are somalis and others too . and are somalis and others too. and it's a different question there because do come from difficult countries . so the question is, countries. so the question is, can we send them back to somalia? probably not. but there is, of course, a point in international law. but actually, if you're in a safe country , if you're in a safe country, you're not escaping from france . france is not a country that people have fear their lives in. and this is the whole issue about where we get to. can we send them to rwanda ? are people send them to rwanda? are people going to say this is in breach of human rights and do we need a change? the human rights act and i think we do. this doesn't our pulling out of the european court a court which incidentally we helped set up but it does having the same structure that they have. for example, in sweden where they expel immigrants . and i don't think immigrants. and i don't think anybody's going to say sweden is anybody's going to say sweden is a particularly right wing or evil country . if michael, the an

evil country. if michael, the an election in for example may october of 2024. where do think we will be numbers wise terms of those illegal crossings . we know those illegal crossings. we know that they've peaked at around 1000 today in the height summer. where do you anticipate those numbers will be in a couple of years time and is the right figure in terms of your constituents and what they would expect? well, i don't know what they will be, but what i do is this. they've got to come down or we will get a labour government . and if we get government. and if we get a labour government, i'm pretty those numbers will go up because even when keir starmer okays he talks tough about illegal immigration. i there in the house of commons and i look behind keir and i see all those ranks of labour mps shaking their heads. oh no keir you're not going to get this through under our . and that's the

under our. and that's the problem with the party of course and that's why you don't actually hear keir starmer coming up with any plans because he's not frightened about the concern . party shooting ideas concern. party shooting ideas down. he's frightened of his own backbench just shooting those ideas down. so once deliver once we get the economy straight and we get the economy straight and we can have unity i still think given that there isn't this huge support for keir starmer in the country i actually we could win another term but we've got to deserve it first. why do you think are so far ahead. because you know many viewers the i receive emails from say well labour couldn't a worse job than the tories we've got industrial strife we've got illegal migrant crossings and we've got an economic crisis. it's not a good look for the incumbent at the moment. no not i mean, look

would have kept boris johnson actually think boris johnson was doing a good job. we know where things went with him, but actually he was getting things done. actually he was getting things done . we got brexit done, we got done. we got brexit done, we got done, you know that already. and you know, if keir starmer had his way, we'd probably still be in lockdown . but i can in lockdown. but i can understand why people feel the way they do. we rid of boris. liz truss came in how long becky last about weeks. then rishi came in and a lot of conservative hibbs who are members of the party, said well, hang on for a minute. we actually vote for rishi and you know , feel very, very know, feel very, very disenfranchised . but actually , disenfranchised. but actually, you know, when push comes to shove in a year, 18 months time, we all know could be two years. so i mean legally then i'm not

going to say i'm not saying got to be then, but legally needn't be a general election . january be a general election. january 2025 and i think it was harold wilson who said a week is a long time in politics. great labour politician. well, you know can tell you a couple of years is longer. so let's just see how the economy goes but if we don't get it straight , we won't win. get it straight, we won't win. and won't deserve to win . and won't deserve to win. michael, the problem the government at the moment is that it's not rishi sunak running country. it's mick lynch of the rmt union. i think it's the civil servants running the country that's problem at the moment. we've got to make sure that actually the government, the brothers, the country and not the civil servants, all that goes back and i probably they'll get all the civil servants coming out on strike to know mick lynch an interesting character sir and a number people have been saying on what

his background and his love for marxism and international overthrow of elected governments and all the rest of it. but we've got to stand firm . at the we've got to stand firm. at the end of the day, it's costing the train drivers a lot money being constantly on strike . i'm always constantly on strike. i'm always one for compromise, but i think at the time, you know, we've we've got to have modern ways of running the train system. you know the days of having multiple guards and all the rest of it are long gone. steam trains. but of course, mick lynch would have it that you know, we've got stay exactly as we were 100 years ago . nobody wants to lose jobs and it is the job of a trade union, i suppose, to keep jobs. i'm sure it will be resolved and people will that we have to what we have to do. but i think if we decide to give in completely to mick lynch, then people say, well, in that case , you know, well, in that case, you know, all the sacrifice wasn't worth

it . finally, michael are it. finally, michael are a popular and dedicated member of parliament very, very focussed on your constituents . you will on your constituents. you will get a break over christmas . what get a break over christmas. what are your plans for the 25th? oh i'm going walking in the mountains with a friend of mine in spain . mountains with a friend of mine in spain. it's mountains with a friend of mine in spain . it's going to be in spain. it's going to be freezing . i won't be getting freezing. i won't be getting short , but normally i've short, but normally i've actually the uk in in on christmas day but i'm going to be i'm flying malaga and then going up into the mountains beyond that and friends said to me if you come back with tax and a wicker donkey you'll never speak to me again. enjoy the on that donkey . enjoy the sangria . that donkey. enjoy the sangria. enjoy the patatas bravas and look forward to catching up in the new year. my thanks to you, michael fabricant mp. coming up, lord michael howard live in the studio for a mark meet special at ten. later this we'll speak

to wayne lineker entrepreneur and nightclub owner about, to wayne lineker entrepreneur and nightclub owner about , the and nightclub owner about, the big stories of the week. but next up are harry and meghan. unwelcome in britain. we'll debate that with muir and rafe hydro nine to see you .

in three. welcome back to mark dolan tonight which begins at 8 pm. every friday and saturday through until 11 tonight. lord howard is with me in the studio. he's my mark meets guest. lord michael howard talking about his career and what he thinks of rishi. also, we're going to get to revelations now about and meghan and their netflix documentary series the question we're posing is a simple one all the couple unwelcome in britain above and beyond whether they've

fallen out with the royal family have they completely lost the goodwill the british people what kind of reception would they get if they returned to debate this. i'm delighted to welcome television personality . precious television personality. precious muir and the royal historian and broadcaster rafe heidel . man, broadcaster rafe heidel. man, a precious all harry and meghan, unwelcome in britain. no, absolutely not. i mean, they are more than welcome they are going to be somebody in the country thatis to be somebody in the country that is going to be able to be relatable to the younger generation . and they're going to generation. and they're going to carry themselves in a way that everyone of colour is going to embrace them. harry even in the documentary that they are missing , the royal family are missing, the royal family are missing, the royal family are missing in having meghan a part of the family. now, you relatable this is a millionaire couple living in a montecito mansion in california with 16 bathrooms and they fly everywhere , a private jet. it everywhere, a private jet. it doesn't sound very relatable. it is relatable because they've changed the course in history in the uk for the worse, for the better . for someone who is

better. for someone who is a woman of colour who can actually look somebody else , been look at somebody else, been a part something that's an part of something that's an historical movement . so it's historical movement. so it's changed the course of history for the better has influenced so many young women. so many , so many young women. so many, so many young women. so many, so many things that she's done that's influence across nation across the world when she's gone and met with people she's greeted them and people are just embracing and overwhelmed by her like jen. like her personality . like jen. like her personality. there is nothing fake . there is there is nothing fake. there is nothing fake about genuine there is nothing fake about genuine . is nothing fake about genuine. there's a no she is so genuine. so sincere she's so sincere as . so sincere she's so sincere as. she comes across in a way. so this is why people are looking to her as somewhat of an inspiration i mean this things that's happened in the history in it obviously through the documentary they explain about the uk history this covered so it wasn't just about harry and

meghan it was about a love story but it also was about shining the light on what's happened in the light on what's happened in the uk history moments that have gone past generations that haven't actually seen . so this haven't actually seen. so this documentary covered all of that all amongst history. i'll give you that history should be subjected to scrutiny and debate. i mean the fact that we pays the slave owners to get to release the slaves. i mean things like that some younger generation they don't know this this is something that the documentary covers what many would argue including historians. it was a rather partisan or one sided interpretive session of british history. of course, it's a part history. of course, it's a part history we don't history that we don't necessarily in schools, education, things that are happening during all time at school. we don't learn this kind of stuff. and i but we do. we want children learning. and meghan's version of how it is going to say that the last people i would to teach in history in our schools are people who were consulted for this of propaganda rather

this piece of propaganda rather than after than a documentary series after somebody who wants to see nelson's column removed because he's a symbol white supremacy, according to andrews, one of the most notorious in this country, tried to stoke racial division . tried to stoke racial division. they would also get these reputable these not really historians at. i mean what we have to understand is there's a myth that's been created here. one of the great propaganda rules is tell a big lie long enough and it will be believed . enough and it will be believed. and that is the agenda behind this propaganda project. there's no documentary. it's biased. it's throughout there's no sense to try to apply any patterns , to try to apply any patterns, any of the arguments being made and just seems to be that we're losing the plot by trying to or by buying into the agenda that's being put in. one of which, of course, is at one award. i should say, for best fantasy series, because essentially what they've is sort of facts, none of that lot of fact. i mean, to be honest to be a woman who's come into society where they have not accepted her from the beginning because didn't

beginning because they didn't give her the tools they thought were her the were the biggest, give her the tools able to manage tools to be able to manage the rocks deal with the royal rocks and deal with the royal like you know that things that she had to attend she wasn't ready for this she did not understand the next point. she was not. but she was more prepared anybody else because she was already citizen of the world. she see love interest groups . i world. she see love interest groups. i mean, every single day she was in the press corps. miller had far worse coverage and every single day they saw something , something in what something, something in what she's been able to do really bnngs she's been able to do really brings out her character to her mental stability like she was just not able to deal this. what she's done this is like this where she's seen this alternatively obviously where the royal family racist. the media is racist. have everyone who votes biased, everyone who voted for brexit. let me just finish the point. finish

everyone who voted brexit is racist. this is the this is the agenda. and then they're trying to portray harry and meghan as these victimised social justice who are bravely battling oppression and racism as. who are bravely battling oppression and racism as . they oppression and racism as. they fight for freedom. i mean, sorry , she's no rosa parks. she's much like justice, but it's another actor who cries racism . another actor who cries racism. but there is none. i feel really bad well. harry and meghan, this rubbish you know. no, she doesn't . racism. she is of doesn't. racism. she is of colour. she can't change that . colour. she can't change that. she wakes up and she is colour. she wakes up and she is colour. she can't play the role. she's do you don't play race card. what doing. she's bringing six you know what colour she she can't deny who she is to i to if what marries a white woman had children. do you know what uk look like right now things have progressed in this country for the better i'm telling you now that's where america actually marrying harry has made the uk better . it has marrying harry has made the uk better. it has as a woman you

would never understand as a woman of colour what it feels like, never be accepted. but i loyalty in certain ways of life in. the uk and the fact that you now seeing a meghan in the royal family has changed history beyond what you can understand from what you can understand. i'm telling you as a child of the empire. i the biggest supporter of meghan when she married and that was you precious i do the monologues on the show now i call to the heineken princess able to reach parts of the commonwealth the princesses couldn't reach. unfortunately, ever since then we've that actually there was no terrible motive to her becoming a princess that she didn't she wasn't ready to compromise on any issues. she wanted have her cake and eat it too you know, we had we had that terrific trio of harry and kate and william and the idea was we could have a fab for the new that unfortunately they wouldn't be she's not the

extras she's not the yoko she's the yoko ono the royal family. but she wants to maintain extras. they didn't want harry and meghan to shine. they wanted them to be mostly because great for the royal family, much love and embrace by the well. we all know we love. that's what evidence do to media. no, this is why some of them headlines. i mean drama queen. that's something meghan ruins birthday. where do you think that comes from ? that comes from within from? that comes from within knight from that's something i mean and they have something they make the most of those magazines think they're all american no they're not so they express talks about how she's had to change face to be somebody is exactly same as she was when she was born you don't think the sarah ferguson was subjected to scrutiny when she married prince she received dogs abuse whatever you want. the level interest in everyone on to

go to was diana was was obviously she was was she was in the position but she was also a lover. she had to know but was also alone when she had to deal leaving the royal family and that traumatic. so the only person could relate is diana princess went through the same thing don't think is she didn't have harry to support her the reasons the both of them now are very relates is the fact that they were shining brighter than they were shining brighter than the one they i have never seen more once and they tried to cut her by doing the same with meghan. meghan and harry because they wanted and kate to shine hence stories . harry they wanted and kate to shine hence stories. harry said absolutely true. i mean this whole i just nonsense. for example, it was the royal family that suppressed public of the report into making the alleged bullying because they knew it would damage reputation. why was that? once on this show, all these allegations , the royal these allegations, the royal family briefing against meghan ,

family briefing against meghan, if he was pure evidence , those if he was pure evidence, those of us who work in this field know full well how often the palace trying to suppress negative stories about me. you know that although when they said is the documentary and said this is the documentary and they stated that there was on social evidence assault precious cream , a lot hot air with no cream, a lot of hot air with no substance . the they were doing substance. the they were doing surveillance they funded the bots were coming from some precious meal it has to be fresh and suspicious less is meal isn't cow can i suggest to you i'm going to throw you a bone right. which is i think made a brilliant point, which is that when meghan became the duchess of that was amazing of sussex. that was amazing moment. was . you say moment. it was it was. you say that as a young woman. yes. and i completely understand that. and i think it an amazing and i think it was an amazing moment. country and even the moment. the country and even the mail, think on wedding day mail, i think on wedding day pointed it was a doria pointed out that it was a doria meghan's beautiful mother for away who gave her away and they just did a sort of a magically modern wedding is how the mail described it. yeah i think where

it went wrong is when began to reject her royal duties and when she realised she couldn't be a hollywood star and serve the pubuc hollywood star and serve the public a serving member of the royal family . and that was the royal family. and that was the conflict that she wants to a cake and eat it in the end she's taken harry right and she's turned him against him she hasn't turned him anything against. harry was on his own journey. he on his own journey. and he was trying to hide to begin it. it have happened begin with it. it have happened because was africa trying because he was in africa trying to find himself without meghan. he tried to facilitate . he was he tried to facilitate. he was trying to find himself before meghan came into the picture . meghan came into the picture. she fits in perfectly with change. he decided to change because he knew that he was being raised in an institution , being raised in an institution, you know, situation where it was had some form of racism and unconscious bias and was trying to change as an individual he saw that this wasn't right move for him briefly separated way before meghan he was in the

picture in meghan markle let harry announce the new book the forthcoming book whilst the queen was grieving over prince philip and battling her own issues. why did meghan let that happen ? nice person. no, no, no. happen? nice person. no, no, no. so why dump her? but this is. why didn't she visit him when? he had a heart attack. this is the problem that you have. most of all, the these are the this is the problem what you just stated, meghan doesn't allow harry do anything . harry is harry to do anything. harry is his man . in harry to do anything. harry is his man. in fact, in the his own man. in fact, in the documentary he clearly states he wants to do and what he wants say and he doesn't have permission from meghan or anybody else he wanted to release the book . that's his own release the book. that's his own that's his own choice . if you that's his own choice. if you want if he wants this, he doesn't have to ask permission to meghan to get this piece of property. and it's always everyone's fault . it's harry's everyone's fault. it's harry's family's . it's meghan's family's fault. it's meghan's family's fault. it's meghan's family's fault. it's the media's fault. everyone who watches brexit, it's their fault. you know, once a turn around is the end , maybe it's us. maybe where end, maybe it's us. maybe where the problem then i'm actually

just glad that her majesty the queen around to all queen wasn't around to see all of this. her grandson of this. to see her grandson betray her legacy, betray family, and traduced the institution that actually gave him and his wife everything that they and upon which their they have and upon which their fame and success meghan has to be foolish to continue to milk meghan had way more to tell . now meghan had way more to tell. now she's on the verge of trying to rise up okay it's time it's time out. yes the clock against us. but what an illuminating debate. my but what an illuminating debate. my deep thanks to television . my deep thanks to television. very good friend of the show, precious mule and the royal historian and broadcaster and gb news regular rafe heydel—mankoo . what's your reaction, mark gbnews.uk lord michael howard live in the studio after ten in a mock meets special. but next up with the big of the week, wayne lineker go anywhere .

welcome back to the show lord . welcome back to the show lord. michael howard is in the studio after ten to tell his incredible story. he's been home secretary and of course leader of the conservative. and in my opinion, a band called slave have changed their name for fear of offending people. the world has gone mad i'll be dealing that shortly . i'll be dealing that shortly. let's take a look at some of the week's other big now in the company of a very interesting and entertaining guy. the highly successful entrepreneur , successful entrepreneur, nightclub owner and international playboy wayne lineker . hi international playboy wayne lineker. hi way. how are you doing? i'm good , alison. great doing? i'm good, alison. great to have you on the show. lovely to have you on the show. lovely to meet you. for the first time, we new on a very successful bar in ibiza has trade since . covid in ibiza has trade since. covid it's been a miraculous turnaround. yeah from from dire straits to severe to having the

most successful year of our lives. yeah it's been amazing . lives. yeah it's been amazing. i'm really pleased to hear that you must look on what's happening in the uk with these rails and how it's impacting hospitality with great sympathy sympathy . yeah, i mean we've got sympathy. yeah, i mean we've got several in the uk skiing a kitchen for example are really suffering at the moment from from all the train strikes you know we're normally a very vibrant right now but you know it's sporadic sporadic at the moment and you know we're taking a bit of a hit in the uk at the minute. yes. and this will see bars and restaurants go to the wall, won't it, because this is when you guys make your money the christmas season . yeah. it's the christmas season. yeah. it's a very , very good time for us, a very, very good time for us, you know. i mean , know we are so you know. i mean, know we are so profit wise . it's very big for profit wise. it's very big for us. december, january , well up us. december, january, well up to new year's eve and the unfortunately, it's very difficult planning events, etc.

when this was just going and you've got an set up because you've got an set up because you've got an set up because you've got businesses , you've got businesses, businesses here , what's your businesses here, what's your outlook for the uk economy for and uk hospitality? how you think we're going to do in the next couple of years ? i don't next couple of years? i don't know. but i'll tell you one thing. it's a struggle at the moment and as with the way people are forecasted , because people are forecasted, because fortunes, as it were, so it's a struggle to the little bit but got lucky used to be everyone still goes abroad on holidays there's any spare cash got the sense of what to spend it on holidays so as far as a business abroad are concerned we're not too worried . but in the uk it's too worried. but in the uk it's is it's going to take a hit for you know about wayne you know about management across all of your venues . what do you make of your venues. what do you make of the leadership skills of rishi

sunak.i the leadership skills of rishi sunak . i know, but is a god like sunak. i know, but is a god like him. he's kind of like guy and i don't know if you the video of lookalike appears it went viral down to the ocean beach so i got the is in a weird way i kind of like the guy because yeah i think i think the is just something about i like i mean i'm not so politically clever i don't i don't really want to go too far into that but yeah, as a as a personal club kind of like him. yeah i think your instincts , a leader are just as important as their policies actually, i think every voter has a gut feeling about someone don't they . yeah, absolutely. that's i've always all my life i've come with gut feeling sometimes i'm wrong, i'm right. but in general feel if you go completely about as a woman, it's good to then just go with it. you're tribute

to the queen got . a lot of to the queen got. a lot of attention, i think . got a short attention, i think. got a short clip. let's take a look. if you got this marquee and i know harry come up your place . on harry come up your place. on where a lot of money is in day today but myself i'm lying i'm of these partners fellow british businessmen and we could likely stay go by without speaking about yesterday's events in the uk . well, that was wonderful and uk. well, that was wonderful and i'm very impressed by your backing dancers . yeah. i mean . backing dancers. yeah. i mean. the viral and i think it all went wrong was send in the dancers are dressed as gods in thongs. i think that's where it all wrong . liz said it was all wrong. liz said it was a tribute. it was a tribute. and i know it came from a good place, didn't it? it was in serbia. i

beat those staff. so yeah we were happy with it . i beat those staff. so yeah we were happy with it. i mean, beat those staff. so yeah we were happy with it . i mean, the were happy with it. i mean, the people in the crowd of the day they were, they were really appreciative it. and everyone got in mood. but on twitter, there was a difference or they didn't like it. but yeah, i mean, they had mixed but it went went pretty viral. but it was controversy sure i sat said the statement that we got for it but it was it was dumb from from a good place to very way and you've got a colourful life you got businesses your won't still motivates you what drives . oh to motivates you what drives. oh to go motivates you what drives. oh to 9° up motivates you what drives. oh to go up in a nutshell when i joined corbridge i walked into the bar at 7:00am, just up on a tuesday night, just after boris and co quarantine and we've got. we normally have 1500 people in there on a tuesday. i was in at 7 pm. at night and there was

there was 40 people in there. we've got hundred 60 tables and beds and there was two beds taken. it was a quarter. the venue alone scrabble was up. you know it was it it was a repeat moment and then it as it is now this summer, i just stood back and at the people i'm amazing and at the people i'm amazing and that's what motivates me to see that people have done since marlene happy and you know just just so it was so amazing to just so it was so amazing to just see that and feel , you just see that and feel, you know, that's that's what we've brought the table here and know that's that's a special thing for me. i completely agree. i hosted an event earlier this week and people are just so happy to get together briefly if you can what are your plans for christmas ? i'm going back to the christmas? i'm going back to the big three to see my granddaughters margaret aria because my son lives with my partner , ocean beach and yeah, partner, ocean beach and yeah, we would love a nice family ,

we would love a nice family, last family christmas and yeah i'm not no pardon for me i'll do all that in the summer i'll try and relax a little bit in the winter. i mean my dad's is globally medical marvel, cyber lab testing every, every summer i get back from a visa and they just it's remarkable and how you even alive let alone a good health . well i'm pleased to hear health. well i'm pleased to hear it everyone's going to spain this christmas . mp michael this christmas. mp michael fabncant this christmas. mp michael fabricant wayne lineker. wayne have a great christmas. look forward to catching up the new yeah forward to catching up the new year. really nice chatting with you. wayne lineker, entrepreneur socialite entrepreneur , socialite entrepreneur, nightclub owner, you name it . nightclub owner, you name it. what a guy coming up in big opinion, a band called slaves have changed their name because . people are offended i'll be deaung . people are offended i'll be dealing that shortly and my morning meets guest is lord michael howard's live in the studio for a mock meets special and in the big question should we ditch your pets to the planet ihope we ditch your pets to the planet i hope my harry's not watching see you .

in three. it's 9:00 on mark dolan tonight . my big opinion. i'll be telling you about a music band called sleigh leaves who are changing their name for fear of offending people. you couldn't make it up . my mark meet guest make it up. my mark meet guest is michael howard's a tory big hitter who was leader the party and of course an icon tonic home secretary he'll tell me how the conservatives can try and win back some of their support in the big question as people try to come up with ways to reduce their carbon footprint . should their carbon footprint. should we give up our pets to save the planet ? and in the news agenda planet? and in the news agenda with my panel words like fat and ugly, offensive , or a statement

ugly, offensive, or a statement of fact . also, is it wrong to of fact. also, is it wrong to wear make up in the workplace? and should we? christmas presents early last to get through. i'll see off the headunes through. i'll see off the headlines with bethany . mark headlines with bethany. mark thank you. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from . the with your top stories from. the gb newsroom eurostar . it's been gb newsroom eurostar. it's been forced to cancel its service to london on boxing day because the rmt strikes will the uk's high speed. rmt strikes will the uk's high speed . it says more than 40,000 speed. it says more than 40,000 union members strike for third time this week following an ongoing dispute over pay conditions. rmt leader mick lynch says little progress been made during negotiations but he believes a compromise is achievable. more industrial is planned for tomorrow . a man from planned for tomorrow. a man from , leicestershire, who murdered his partner in his parents home has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of 23 years. ross mccollam was dating

his colleague megan newborough when he strangled cut her throat last year. the court heard how he tried to cover up her death by hiding her clothes in nearby bins and leaving voicemail on a phone. family described him as the definition of a monster. i know how difficult has been for my parents sister to the court every day, listening to the web of lies spun by someone megan not only knew whom she trusted, someone clearly had no look forward to we. we're the ones now serving the life sentence. no amount of prison can bring them back . we have to carry on them back. we have to carry on with our lives as as we can. but megan will never leave our thoughts . a man and woman have thoughts. a man and woman have been arrested after two young boys were found dead . a boys were found dead. a residential address in eastland , the met police, sunderland and ambulance were called to cornwallis in dagenham this afternoon . the boys, aged two afternoon. the boys, aged two and five, were dead at the scene. understood. the man and woman were both known to the children and. they remain in

police custody . police police custody. police investigating a suspected triple murder in northamptonshire . the murder in northamptonshire. the victims have been named as angie assault, who was an nhs nurse and her two young children. jeeva and jan sachi. they found at the house in kettering yesterday morning. a 52 year old man is being questioned connection with their deaths . connection with their deaths. three people are in a critical condition and person has been arrested after a suspected crowd crush a music venue in south london has just returned . the london has just returned. the met police has launched an investigate after officers were called to the brixton o2 academy last night . video footage shows last night. video footage shows a large crowd of people trying to force their way into the concert. police say they are reviewing social media and, cctv video and a former lady in waiting lady susan hussey has apologised for repeatedly asking apologised for repeatedly asking

a charity boss where she was from during a royal reception . from during a royal reception. she met with ngozi fulani at buckingham palace today and pledged deepen her awareness of the sensitive cities involved. ms. villani accepted the apology and says she appreciates no malice was intended . you're up malice was intended. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio. this is now let's go back to . mark my thanks to bethany elsey who returns in an hour's time. welcome mark dolan tonight in my opinion in just a moment, i'll be telling you about some music band called slaves who have changed their name for fear of offending people. you couldn't make it up in the big question as people try to come up with more ways, reduce their carbon footprints . should we give up footprints. should we give up our pets to the planet? my mark

guest is tori big hits. lord michael howard. he was leader of the conservative party and of course legendary home secretary. he'll tell us what they can do to win next election. and in the news agenda, all words like fat and ugly , offensive or and ugly, offensive or a statement of fact. and is it wrong ? wear makeup in the wrong? wear makeup in the workplace . what about this one? workplace. what about this one? just in time for , christmas. just in time for, christmas. should we open presents early? i've noticed more and more people doing it. is that naughty? a 30 shot will bring you tomorrow's front pages were full of reaction from my panel tonight author, lawyer and deputy leader of ukip, rebecca jane. deputy leader of ukip, rebecca jane . fleet street's longest jane. fleet street's longest serving political editor from the sunday and the sunday mirror. nigel nelson. and historian and journalist david oldroyd, both . now we want to oldroyd, both. now we want to hear from you throughout the show market. the best bit of my show market. the best bit of my show is when you get in touch and this programme has a golden page, you know what that is . are

page, you know what that is. are you ready ? we do. boring. not on you ready? we do. boring. not on my . i just you ready? we do. boring. not on my. i just won't have . so there my. i just won't have. so there you go. for the next 2 hours, big debates , big guests and big debates, big guests and always big opinions. let's start with this . one the rock band with this. one the rock band have had to change name for fear of offending people. welcome to bonkers 22, where the woke mob will stop at nothing to cancel art and to police our language , art and to police our language, rendering much of it off limits and sucking any remaining joy out of our lives. and sucking any remaining joy out of our lives . of course, out of our lives. of course, these these woke bullies don't understand context . this understand context. this talented young of musicians came up with their name because they'd stumbled from one low paid, unfulfilling job to another . after all, word slave

another. after all, word slave has multiple or it did before became highly politicised like so many words by groups seeking to leverage language for their own ends , being terrified of own ends, being terrified of you're going to say next and what the consequences might be. play straight into the hands of these in tolerant bullies. they've got all of us running even the wrong joke will get you cancelled. now as hard left progressives . and not just progressives. and not just ruthless, unthinking and cruel, but famously and humourless too. the great joy of the english language is just how layered it is and the word slave can refer to the literal meaning. the sale and purchase of human . one of and purchase of human. one of the worst crimes in history. or it can refer to someone that's subservient to a senior an authoritative figure , a boss, authoritative figure, a boss, perhaps, or a controlling friend or spouse . that's right. a slave or spouse. that's right. a slave is flexible and complex word .

is flexible and complex word. the best words are it's a crying shame that this band felt the need to rename themselves and as showbusiness all about branding, i fear it's unlikely they'll gain the same traction under their new title of soft play . their new title of soft play. they've been robbed of a perfectly sensible and reasonable name and one that relates to their own humble story and personal struggles. but none of is allowed in the church of . just like the church of. just like the incredible song fairytale of new york. you know that song? it's christmas . it involves an christmas. it involves an imagined conversation between two absolute scumbag in which the slang word used to refer to a gay person which rhymes with maggot is yelled by one of the characters . it's in character. characters. it's in character. it has context. this is how art works . and all of us enjoying works. and all of us enjoying song for the last 30 years. gay people straight bisexual people.

there isn't anyone around christmas time , especially after christmas time, especially after a few drinks that won't be singing along to that great chorus . except that chorus has chorus. except that chorus has now been edited for radio play and christmas parties so that it augns and christmas parties so that it aligns with politically correct scripture . it reminds me of scripture. it reminds me of a classic of fawlty towers, in which basil is uncomfortable in the company of a black doctor . the company of a black doctor. the channel carrying the episode it from their platform because . it from their platform because. it was offensive. except the whole message was an anti—racist one.the whole message was an anti—racist one. the storyline was mocking bafil one. the storyline was mocking basil fawlty is innate xenophobia . i've had of this xenophobia. i've had of this censorship this extreme political correctness and this assault on our art. we now live in an era where 1984 the book comes with a trigger warning and yet no one can see the irony . yet no one can see the irony. all great authors comedic and some musicians are self writing

creating with one hand tied behind their for fear that they could feel the wrath of the woke warriors next. we in an era where incredible like brown sugar by the stones has effectively been banned because of reference is to slavery and. the stones have vowed never play that song again . that's that song again. that's progress. is it ? all of this progress. is it? all of this cancellation of art would make chairman mao . our world is chairman mao. our world is becoming less joyful , less becoming less joyful, less spontaneous, less fun because of the moral police or the new puritans . you could call them , puritans. you could call them, as pointed out by the excellent in his new book of the same name i. i've read it. it's an instant classic , the perfect christmas classic, the perfect christmas gift. i would suggest. i've had enough of seeing creative people crushed like this . and i think crushed like this. and i think that we the public , should push

that we the public, should push back.i that we the public, should push back. i think that 2023 should be the year of wilde's political incorrectness . and we should be incorrectness. and we should be as outrageous as we possibly can be . it's time as outrageous as we possibly can be. it's time to as outrageous as we possibly can be . it's time to overcorrect the be. it's time to overcorrect the other way. and once again , the other way. and once again, the full freedom of . all great full freedom of. all great language. and let artists express themselves again without fear of the constant . if we fear of the constant. if we don't push back against these bullies, we will be their slaves forever . bullies, we will be their slaves forever. your bullies, we will be their slaves forever . your view, bullies, we will be their slaves forever. your view, mark at gb news uk. i'll get to your thoughts shortly. brilliant panel here tonight reacting to all of the big stories of the day and, my big opinion monologue author, lawyer and deputy of . she's getting deputy leader of. she's getting closer power by the day. it closer to power by the day. it is rebecca , jane. someone that's is rebecca, jane. someone that's already powerful . it's nigel already powerful. it's nigel nelson, fleet street's serving political editor. he and breaks careers, let me tell you. and the cleverest man in the room,

his story. and journalist david oldroyd ed bolt. great to have all three if you with me. let me start with you if i can. rebecca, jane, this band are called slaves. they up with that name because they'd been a really tough time. dead jobs, minimum wage. really tough time. dead jobs, minimum wage . their lives were minimum wage. their lives were going nowhere. they were slaves. mm yeah, i know. this is your day . again, you know, it keeps day. again, you know, it keeps on happening. every single which that we look. people are pandenng that we look. people are pandering to the woke agenda and it just to stop. we keep on going around being of what we say. i'm sick to death of seeing older generations terrified of asking a very question. and you know there's a certain situation in the that probably we won't bnng in the that probably we won't bring up because they'll start ranting and but it has to stop. we have be allowed to express ourselves . if we get it wrong, ourselves. if we get it wrong, have a discussion have a conversation about it. but pandenng conversation about it. but pandering to this war agenda. think you're referring to lady

susan hussy who has apologised to the woman who she asked, where do you really come from? we'll cover that in the papers. tend to pop in tomorrow's front pages already. tend to pop in tomorrow's front pages already . what do you think pages already. what do you think about this, nigel nelson? are we overreacting ? many people think overreacting? many people think that this idea of wokeism is very overstated . well, i mean, very overstated. well, i mean, in this particular that i found found this item rather like reading one of those obscure obituary in the newspaper , which obituary in the newspaper, which was somebody who has died, who you didn't actually know was alive in the first place. and i'm afraid that slate was completely pass me by. i would imagine that soft play equally pass me by although it sounds more cuddly. i do think things actually change. i noticed that you didn't use the word that rhyme with muggers and you pick a opinion yet and when it comes to things like basil fawlty i found that scene you're talking about the extreme be funny. i understand why it's pulled in the same way that you'd never

show a benny hill programme again because it was far too sex and of its time till death till death do you part used to mock racism but in such a way that the words they use could not be used . i just think we've moved used. i just think we've moved on. so there's a lot of words we can't use here on gb news. yes. well, i'm really glad that you mentioned that and it shows your keen editorial. i nigel it's almost like you've done this before. myself and greg grimes and james gibson , the production and james gibson, the production team we were debating whether or not i should use the which rhymes with with maggots and i originally wrote the monologue and had it in and you we were 5050 on it. do you think i should have said that word in my monologue to prove the point, given the subject matter? yes. you should have done. i, by the way, wouldn't use that word in the newspaper right . okay. well, the newspaper right. okay. well, look, let's let's bring david oldroyd bolte into this. have we have this kind of puritanism in

the past has as history had , or the past has as history had, or is this new david? history goes and pendulums with this think if you look from from the certainly from 17th century onwards when had the original puritans and then through the restoration which is an entirely libertine time and then back through the 18th, 19th, 20th century, i think you're getting sort of 30 year pendulums where things open up, they become extremely libertine, they become very relaxed change. and there is a greater licence. and then there is a reaction to that which bnngs is a reaction to that which brings greater puritanism, greater censor censorship and a less tolerant idea culture. and i think it's two things here that are really important culture and context, slave is a band. they were making a point about the background from which they came and the fact that they to break free of it. i think and you have to take into context what separates us from the animals is that we act instinctively , that we have this instinctively, that we have this ability to be subtle and to think of things in different

contexts depending on that . know contexts depending on that. know nobody thought that when the black grace jones sang slave to the rhythm, she was , you know, the rhythm, she was, you know, making any point about abhorrent history of the transatlantic slavery trade. nobody thinks that band wants to advocate that the band wants to advocate . people should go out there on mass murdering sprees. so let's think punk itself. this is think that punk itself. this is a punk band. punk was kicking back was to be back against what was to be a stultifying and an old fashioned cultural with the sex pistols at the forefront of that with their song god save the queen in the silver jubilee. so please , we silverjubilee. so please, we try and be like , i think so much try and be like, i think so much of this comes from what. i would essentially the avant or the intolerant the bored and the under occupied online. they have nothing better to do than look for things by they can be confected outraged and if cultural art is cultural institutions were less worried about how they perceived by that minority who is not in any case

or is not in any case their audience . and if they were more audience. and if they were more concerned about their artistic integrity and whether what they saying what they were representing had some i think the whole problem of wokeism in affecting the cultural sphere would be a great deal less . and would be a great deal less. and you know, these are just people with too much time their hands who like to rant on internet who like to rant on the internet paying who like to rant on the internet paying attention them coming. paying attention to them coming. up paying attention to them coming. up agenda my up in the news agenda with my panel up in the news agenda with my panel. be we be working panel. be will we be working from home? you feel about from home? how do you feel about the being in gym jobs the idea being in your gym jobs until , retirement? my art meets until, retirement? my art meets guest political icon lord howard. it's a mark meet special . we're doing it over two parts .we're doing it over two parts and he's in the studio from ten. but next in the big question , we but next in the big question, we give our pets to save planet. give up our pets to save planet. see you .

in three. big reaction to my big opinion monologue. a band called slaves

have changed their name because apparently it's offensive, even though were referring to their own time as a struggling low , own time as a struggling low, workers . i can tell you that workers. i can tell you that it's already twitter because lovely page and ben from all digital team have crafted the big opinion monologue into a video clip. it's on twitter now at gb news as all clips of the week from earlier in the show at 8:00, the highs and lows of a week of gb news is to check both of those videos at gb news or at mr. mark dolan couple of emails before we get to the big question, benny hill is so funny. the woke brigade, a two intense wonder there's so intense no wonder there's so many mental health issues. lighten up enjoy life, says lighten up and enjoy life, says liz . don't forget and tide liz. don't forget time and tide waits for no one and you only have one time earth. great have one time on earth. great liz. you for that , for the liz. thank you for that, for the kind words and thanks for being part of the family of viewers that are gb news. how about this from tim. hi, mark. i agree with your monologue. this woke agenda is dreadful. however think as normal people are far weak and

bow to its and terri says bow down to its and terri says nigel says we've moved on your. i say we've been moved on. thanks for that keep those emails coming market gb news dot uk. it's time now for this. emails coming market gb news dot uk. it's time now for this . yes uk. it's time now for this. yes it's uk. it's time now for this. yes wsfime uk. it's time now for this. yes it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major story of the day and a fascinating story in the independent by owning a pet , story in the independent by owning a pet, doing more damage to the environment than you might realise . climate columnist might realise. climate columnist for the indy donna mccarthy writes in the paper telling the truth about can be a painful process . but cats and dogs process. but cats and dogs particularly are having a devastating impact on the planet . so should we ditch our pets to save the planet? could you live your moggie or your hound . to your moggie or your hound. to debate this? i'm delighted to say that donna mccarthy has made time to join us as well as gogglebox star and famous

celebrity dog lover sandi bogle. hi hi . great to have you on the hi hi. great to have you on the show . listen, would you be show. listen, would you be willing to give up your dog , willing to give up your dog, save the planet ? you crazy? save the planet? you crazy? i know where that came . honestly know where that came. honestly as i said, i'm a true believer that god brought humans and animals this planet for a reason . and that is to be a companion to us . they do so much. are to us. they do so much. are loving companion. animal that's what. that's what. that's what i believe . that they are here for believe. that they are here for us . i believe. that they are here for us. i mean, look at the believe. that they are here for us . i mean, look at the lonely, us. i mean, look at the lonely, lonely people. peop hot in hospitals and the blind . come hospitals and the blind. come on, now. they're even dogs. they rescue us. come on. we have to . rescue us. come on. we have to. on the bigger scale of why they really here, they are here to . really here, they are here to. help us. we when we are unable to get through certain situation

or as i said, they rescue us from mountains, places that as humans we can't find us. but find us. however, sandi, they a lot of food, don't they? and a lot of food, don't they? and a lot of food, don't they? and a lot of that is, is meat, of course , and fish and poultry. course, and fish and poultry. and they do a lot of takes. they do a few poos as well but don't we eat lot of food and we waste it ? and then what do we do it? and then what do we do hungry to do? we hand it off and give it to the animal to dog to get rid of it. but we consume so food and waste so much food . food and waste so much food. this planet sandy dropped a few truth bombs and i think actually you've earned the first mike drop of the show because you've raised the point and that's the issue on her. i know you're coming from the right place with your suggestion. the few pets will good for the planet , but will be good for the planet, but we pets pets . the lady we need our pets pets. the lady makes a valid point. we need our pets pets. the lady makes a valid point . there are makes a valid point. there are some situations where we're animals do make a significant such as guide dogs and dogs. the

fact with with 8 billion people on the planet can we afford nearly a billion pets? the fact is what i wrote in the articles that we reach consider those of us who can think about us should consider seriously not replacing our planet , our pets when they our planet, our pets when they pass on. the figures are staggering . a recent study staggering. a recent study university said that the average dog can emit as much as tonnes of carbon . that's around ten of carbon. that's around ten years worth of electricity . the years worth of electricity. the normal value . i'd add that an normal value. i'd add that an estimated 100 million wild animals , frogs and birds are animals, frogs and birds are killed every year in britain by cat. so if you love animals we have to understand that the impact of pets staggering on the wild world on the wild are world natural which . i think the lady natural which. i think the lady here and i pneumophila agree we should and protect sandy . i should and protect sandy. i believe i truly believe. i

understand what you're saying, but who are breeding animals? who are breeding cats? who are breeding the dogs who are holding all these and breeding them in these factories and stuff like that? who's human beings? germans we as the humans are doing , most of these animals are doing, most of these animals are doing, most of these animals are being from where their habitat , all of forests, other habitat, all of forests, other things being cut down. even foxes. you see more foxes here than you do cats and dogs. why we are destroying our planet. our planet if we live, we structure how it was supposed to be and how are we supposed to be on this planet. all this what we are happening right now, we destroying planet. i'm destroying our own planet. i'm what's happening now is down us what's happening now is down us what we are creating . this is what we are creating. this is why it is happening . you were to why it is happening. you were to become even don if you were to become even don if you were to become prime minister what would the all perhaps even a benevolent dictator? i'm sure you've got it in you . what would you've got it in you. what would your rules be? what if you ruled

the world? what sort of what sort of legislation you would you would you would you draw up to tackle this ? would it be like to tackle this? would it be like the sort of chinese one child, one family policy? could it be like a cat three households. how many pets. could we have . i many pets. could we have. i think the lady made some very good points there. we the idea that we actually as many as possible our domestic pet cats should be spayed so they're not producing unwanted kittens. secondly, we have to deal with the puppy factories. they should be closed down. we agree on that. but the and finally, i would think if you once you have a pet, because until they passed away, we should certainly consider reducing the amount of wet meat that dogs eat. the between a dry diet and a wet guide for dogs enormous. it's point eight of a tonne for a dry diet and six tonnes for a wet diet and six tonnes for a wet diet . so those are the

diet and six tonnes for a wet diet. so those are the things that we should looking at with our current pet. but the lady make a point about us locking down forests , destroying the down forests, destroying the natural world. well, a huge amount of forests has been demolished for meat and a quarter of the world's is being fed to pets . there is a direct fed to pets. there is a direct link . the fed to pets. there is a direct link. the number of dogs and cats we have and the destruction of forests . so this is all of forests. so this is all cutting is it so then isn't this all about us educating and doing more and doing better. this is all about educating and that's why i wrote the column . however, why i wrote the column. however, sandy , sandy, i just wonder sandy, sandy, i just wonder actually, because mean i'm a pet lover like you. i've a cat called harry and he's quite carnivorous . got to say he's got carnivorous. got to say he's got a big appetite he's a bit of a fat lump, i'm honest with you. we'll talk about whether the word fat is offensive later in the program . but if it's a if the program. but if it's a if it's a choice between him getting and me, i choose me what

about you. well, well, well. i mean i mean, you would. but then at same time, are you looking at them in the long run? i mean a pet is for life? i mean so why would you. why why are we deciding to have a pet if we're not going to be looking after it for life? this is why they always end up in bins and drowned and stuff like that. because we're not responsible on on what doing with these live with animals with cats with dogs if you're going if in the long run you know that you can't you can't look after it, then it's like having pet for christmas. why you can you you see how much animals get put into all these places battersea dogs home and stuff like that because people get them because they think it's cute is but they're not looking in the long run so there's educating again donna can't just buy a pet for fun and think, oh, you're so lovely and, cuddly. and then when it grows to be massive, everybody wants to rid of it or is eating too much food or whatever. so yeah, you know,

it's society. it's a cycle isn't it? donna i hope you're not a hypocrite, are you hiding a secret somewhere . no, they secret somewhere. no, they didn't really making my for me that so many people are having animals who don't know how to care for them and learn from them properly and they are neglected. but one thing i would ask just one small thing, i would say as prime minister, hopefully democratically, that every should have every path of least should have a bell. that actually warns a bell. so that actually warns the that they're coming the wildlife that they're coming . i the wildlife that they're coming .i dunng the wildlife that they're coming . i during lockdown, i, i . i had during lockdown, i, i had i was asked stuck at home and i'm to have a lovely garden. and one of the things that gave me great joy was my, the frogs in my garden, in my garden pond and a pair of dinosaur were nesting and, i have to say, halfway through lockdown i was really enjoying that gave me a bit of love and a came along it's the frogs the dulux and i was absolutely heartbreaking i love wildlife and the amount of cats have is devastating. i was so least put bells on them. if

the one thing that came out of today's programme, i think bell is a good idea and we've debated the programme in the past, whether should spend more whether cats should spend more time so that don't time indoors so that they don't kill birds because i it's a billion birds a year in alone that are killed by cats. i don't know how. the clock's against me. you didn't answer my question . the if you ruled the question. the if you ruled the world, what would our pet allowance be , would it be? allowance be, would it be? i don't know , dog. every three don't know, dog. every three houses. i think the big cat every round every thousand houses. to be frank with you now you look at what we need to be looking at, reflecting the natural population and in the in the in the wild, if look in the wild, the motor cats would be tiny compared to the magic cats that we have in our in our in our own houses. i must have it wrong. 20 cats within ten houses of my house and they are cons sitting waiting on my tree and by my pond to the birds and eat my frogs . there's too many of my frogs. there's too many of them , i tell you. they are. they

them, i tell you. they are. they very lucky to be eating your frogs . donna, how lovely to have frogs. donna, how lovely to have you on the program again, a fascinating article in the independent sandy, i let independent. sandy, before i let you go , what is your dog called you go, what is your dog called and why do you love him so much ? teddy teddy and he's a rescue . he's actually rescued rescue dog from a fact erm one of the factories , one of those places factories, one of those places where they actually like a farm is. yeah, yeah i've got one of those so. yeah and he, he knows where my nephew , when my nephew where my nephew, when my nephew was actually taken away from us he was , when he was murdered and he was, when he was murdered and he was, when he was murdered and he is like i was sitting on the sofa and he's like he knows it. he knew i, i was, i was so upset and he'd just come over , put it, and he'd just come over, put it, pull his . and me. now if that is

pull his. and me. now if that is not saying that they , they not saying that they, they understand how, we feel and can give us comfort i don't know what what, what else, what else i can say, what animals do for us, for disabled, disabled as i said, i'm for the blind they comfort, they give us joy that they're companions to human beings. and we have do better. we have to do better and responsible be responsible for the animals that we that we have here and stop destroying sandy. sandy love you. and we love sandy love you. and we love sandy bhogle . join us again soon sandy bhogle. join us again soon and lovely danika. my gosh , you and lovely danika. my gosh, you know, he's up and down like a bright let me tell you as cool of nature he thought it was walkies did you don't you like a bike life . i did i did say. bike life. i did i did say. goodbye. it was i gave you a bum stare. thank you to both of you. lovely we've asked you, the viewers on twitter , we ditch our

viewers on twitter, we ditch our pets to save the planet's 8.2% say yes. 91.8 say no. coming up, lord michael howard in the studio and papers. but next, will we be working from home forever. how you feel about that? see you .

in three. well lynn has answered a following question, which is, should we ditch pets to save the planet ? lynn says, mark, i agree planet? lynn says, mark, i agree . your guest, doniger, about cats. they predators, not pets. and destroy wildlife. they are hateful . goodness gracious. ken hateful. goodness gracious. ken says mark, i have two cats with plenty of used cat litter . your plenty of used cat litter. your debate. i think i'll send the used cat litter to your . donna used cat litter to your. donna there was talk about the cats wasn't there in your neighbourhood. i'd neuter a few

of the locals as well but that's another story. lots more to get through before o'clock. i'm going to debate with my panel an interesting topic all. words like fat and ugly , offensive or like fat and ugly, offensive or just a statement fact. we'll get to that shortly . but let's start to that shortly. but let's start with this. back in 20, which feels a lifetime ago, former prime minister boris johnson asked of us to start working from home where we possibly can . years of remote working has now to a new legislation where workers can request working from day of their employment . they day of their employment. they can demand work from home on day one, which leads me to ask, will we be working from home forever 7 we be working from home forever ? is that a good or a bad thing? speak to naveed sohail, former east and star of the apprentice . and celebs go dating. hi navid. hi how are you done in youn navid. hi how are you done in your. i very well, indeed. great to have you on the show. i've watched you on the apprentice. and you're a team player. you

like to be around your colleagues creative your collaborative . that doesn't collaborative. that doesn't happen at home, does it? no be honest. no standing at home to. goodness is kind of like a mess. but obviously, as a form says know when it comes to the health care profession trying to be collaborative work as a group. so, yes, it kind of really depends from , you know, on a day depends from, you know, on a day to day basis, really . well, to day basis, really. well, there you go. what do you think it does to businesses? i what is the future? is it a hybrid half? or do you think some businesses work from home all the time? you what? i personally think i mean, working home has become this new fashion. i just think are like getting more like not be rude. but i think people are starting to get bit maybe lazy if they start working home. i mean, i mean positive and negative. i mean, with the positive , that mean, with the positive, that could be like less transmission of covid or any, you know , you of covid or any, you know, you know, cold and flu and

know, the cold and flu and influenza. but i just like people were just kind of take that for granted. so i just feel people need to be strong enough and just actually to the and just actually go to the workplace and work rather than just working from that's just working from home. that's my opinion . navid, my personal opinion. navid, let's my fantastic panel, let's bring my fantastic panel, if i can . we've got rebecca and if i can. we've got rebecca and jane, we'll bring them in in just a moment. rebecca rebecca jane, nigel nelson , david jane, nigel nelson, david oldroyd balls . let me ask you oldroyd balls. let me ask you about that . you're in about that. you're in journalism, which is a people business. it what's your view about the idea of from home forever ? i probably split it up forever? i probably split it up . so what i do is that politics is a contact sport. so i have to go into the house of commons , go into the house of commons, certainly two days a week, maybe three, if i've two days writing in old days that have struggled into into work, sat in my office not talked to anybody and written away. now i can do that from home when trade strikes are going on and i would have always felt empowered to try and get to

work. now don't have to because i can work from home. and in a sense this is the great of covid reset . we can start looking at reset. we can start looking at what our working practises are and broadly what works best. obviously if you're in a building you can already do that from home. if you're a journalist you can do a substantial part of that sitting at your desk . navid, what do you at your desk. navid, what do you think productivity from people who work from home and can the economy afford it. it's bad news for cafes and bars, isn't it. yes is there and i actually think in of productivity i feel like if people at home there'll be more destruction for them. so that could be maybe family, you know, family dilemmas or having the television on on just not being really focussed on what they do. i feel like just, you know, i just feel like with especially the economy, such as people need go there, go to people need to go there, go to the actual jobs just, you the actual jobs and just, you know, and just not find this know, and just not to find this as way of an stay at home

as a way of an to stay at home and, kind of be lazy. but, you know, not to be rude in any way, but that's how i think that people can make many excuses . people can make many excuses. they just work from home. david oldroyd both the message from top navid sole get back to the office or . you're fired. well, i office or. you're fired. well, i disagree , mr. so i don't think disagree, mr. so i don't think it is a case of working home, being lazy. in fact, i it's precisely the opposite . those precisely the opposite. those working from home have fewer boundanes working from home have fewer boundaries between working time and personal time. i think they're often encouraged to work far longer than they would for the money. it's often way i think therefore of people getting more out of their employees without having to pay for that extra time. and think nigel makes an interesting point that in the old days you would have struggled the office. you would worked harder would have worked harder when you there. think you you were there. then i think you would felt more comfortable would have felt more comfortable saying when you finished whatever was. 6:00. whatever that was. five, 6:00. that's it. i'm done for the day. i'm now spending time on my own life. sort of american life. and this sort of american idea presenteeism, time idea presenteeism, a face time now gone from being that you be

in the office at all times, being seen to work. and now it's that you must known to be working times by emails working at all times by emails about work subjects in unholy and by really saying my work is my life rather i work so that i may live . i think there is an may live. i think there is an argument that you're in the creative industries. you can actually, you know, if you're writing, if your working on a script, if you're writing a piece of musical painting, a picture, can work picture, then you can work equally wherever , you are. equally well wherever, you are. and if don't have to and indeed, if you don't have to get schlepping an office , get up schlepping to an office, you that's going you know, whatever that's going to take an hour, an hour and to take you an hour, an hour and a half, you get work done a half, you may get work done there, but if you're working in a collegiate way, if you're working of people working with a group of people and the quality of your work depends that collaborative , depends on that collaborative, then i the office is the then i think the office is the place rebecca jane place to it. rebecca jane briefly , you can i know you an briefly, you can i know you an entrepreneur as well as an entrepreneur as well as now an emerging budding . i've got so emerging budding. i've got so viewers the email the show telling me that they work from and they love it they might have pets even kids that they can

pick up from school at 3:00. good for them . hate it. i think good for them. hate it. i think it's absolutely terrible . it's absolutely terrible. absolutely sick of it. i think that people are hiding behind it. i think that it's incredibly sad a lot of lazy who are abusing the privilege of working from home and having flexible living and i think that it has stop now okay listeners may not be . it's great to have you on be. it's great to have you on the show. two quick, quick, quick. first, how's business? how's your career going business is going really well, don't it. i myself, i'm in the pharmaceutical world, so managed to pharmacy businesses as you can imagine right now with pharmacy we're kind of struggling with a shortage of antibiotics children for strep so it kind of going through that dilemma in a way. you know we're trying to basically become patients and do our to best help. but as usual, farmers he's busy, you know, patient need our so it's very fast operating business be honest well i'm really pleased hear that listen

you're a pharmacist . you sold me you're a pharmacist. you sold me out with some amoxicillin . oh out with some amoxicillin. oh definitely. i just need to make sure it's in stock because right now, like, literally sorts of amoxicillin, it's all a they've run out and. i don't know what the government is doing and there's no support for us . a as there's no support for us. a as a community pharmacy. there's no support for us. a as a community pharmacy . there you a community pharmacy. there you go. well, i'm sorry to . hear go. well, i'm sorry to. hear that? i'm thrilled to have you on the show. love it. and you join us again. enough. it's sole is pharmacist star of the is a pharmacist star of the apprentice. was apprentice. of course. he was brilliant programme and brilliant on that programme and celebs lots more to celebs go dating lots more to come forget michael howard come forget lord michael howard live in the studio for a mark needs meets special what needs meets special ten what does think of this current does he think of this current conservative government but next in news agenda with panel in the news agenda with my panel are like fat and ugly are words like fat and ugly offensive or just a statement of fact? see you shortly .

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michael howard is in the studio at 10:00. plus, we've got my take at ten as well with a message around which can all unite, let's all be friends in 2023. tomorrow's a really special we start at eight of course every friday and saturday andifs course every friday and saturday and it's the people's hour in which i'm taking your video calls from eight till nine looking forward to that . look, looking forward to that. look, let's get back to the big stories of the day and reacting to all those are author, to all of those are author, lawyer and deputy leader of ukip , rebecca jane , fleet street, , rebecca jane, fleet street, longest serving political nigel to jobs nelson and historian journalist and professional brain boss david oldroyd bolt dashing as well. he's a triple threat folks now a gym owner has defended a controversial billboard he put up to promote business after it was vandalised olly lawrence, who runs the factory in denton, manchester, paid for an advert which read , paid for an advert which read, tired of being fat and ugly . now tired of being fat and ugly. now just be ugly . so it begs the

just be ugly. so it begs the question , are words like fat and question, are words like fat and ugly offensive or just a statement of fact ? david, you're statement of fact? david, you're neither . but what do you think? neither. but what do you think? well, i won't make a judgement on that. i think back to that funny little word context. if you went up to , someone in the you went up to, someone in the street said you're fat and ugly, i think they'd be perfectly justified in the justified in smacking in the face. someone putting that face. if someone putting that billboard up when the picture of the woman is clearly fat nor ugly. think it's perfectly ugly. i think it's perfectly obvious to all concerned are not going back to what we're saying earlier into the earlier getting into the professional defence. it's a joke. it's trying to get someone into the gym and isn't it tedious isn't it unutterably tedious isn't it unutterably tedious that people consistently fail with their sense of humour? everybody's a brain knows that that was a joke and everybody knows that it was not meant to make anybody feel bad about themselves. that's right. i mean, when was at school mean, when i was at school for nigel, full disclosure, i known as a lanky streak piss ego on as a lanky streak of piss ego on not much has .

as a lanky streak of piss ego on not much has. changed i do think that it's okay i can handle the truth. yeah it is quite it's quite that that that billboard was a joke and it should have been taken as such. so i agree with there. on the other hand you would you say that ugly is a statement when can't be cannot really beauty's in the eye of the beholder , old chestnut. the beholder, old chestnut. therefore therefore, ugliness must be in the of the beholder, too. there is no kind of absolute for ugliness. well, i think there is. it's called brutalist. nobody looks at the barbican and says, that's wonderful. look at that work , wonderful. look at that work, beauty. some people might like how the architect i clearly met. yeah, i mean, this is the issue, isn't it? but we're getting so sensitive now. i mean, the bottom example, nigel, bottom line, for example, nigel, is have a high bmi, you is if you have a high bmi, you are . is if you have a high bmi, you are. but we use is if you have a high bmi, you are . but we use that word . it's are. but we use that word. it's the new f word . it. yeah. i the new f word. it. yeah. i mean, obviously , if you accuse mean, obviously, if you accuse someone of being fat is offensive , but i mean at least offensive, but i mean at least with compared to ugliness if you are a beast there is a bmi

judgement that i mean that can actually be an absolute and i wonder if it's being conceived as being offensive nowadays compared with how offensive it was considered when we were younger is because so many more people fact obese that is people are in fact obese that is become such a general that what could been a particular could have been a particular thinking and maybe two thinking and maybe one or two children in year with fat children in the year with fat and andit children in the year with fat and and it was what it was and so and it was what it was now two thirds of adults now went two thirds of adults are obese to see that are clinically obese to see that is to most is to perhaps to demonise most of adult population. and so people are sensitive . it's people are more sensitive. it's always offensive, wasn't it? i mean, it's always been if you call an ugly. well, call someone fat, an ugly. well, you fatty arbuckle you had fatty, fatty arbuckle a and the fat, fat kid and and you had the fat, fat kid and the beano. was it was the beano. it was it was considered less so, i think, because it was just know there was one or two people i think were rebecca and david too were rebecca jane and david too young references. young to remember references. but comics in but i grew up with comics in which were described which characters were described as were ugly as ugly. they were just the ugly caricature, the bash street kids don't exactly why is ugly is such a problem people are such a problem some people are ugly. that's okay. know what ugly. that's okay. you know what they they cure and they do? they go and cure and write great and stuff.

write great books and stuff. well, who's that singer ? well, yeah. who's that singer? that singer? not exactly that singer? that's not exactly an painting . lewis capaldi . an oil painting. lewis capaldi. that him? oh, he's no painting, is he? he's not. but he's a talented guy, but art director faye, he's got the hots him face problem. i be honest. i've seen her at the gb news christmas. she ain't fussy. oh well, you know what they used to say? politics is show business for ugly people. and so really, 649 people in parliament clearly are not definitively ugly . and it's not definitively ugly. and it's just it's someone on the tube. what i like about you you say it like it is right? no, there are ugly people out there . get over ugly people out there. get over it. yeah i'm mean, i'm not exactly brad pitt. listen listen. no. well, you know, you watch them. i'm the pits. you are . oh, boy. you haven't asked are. oh, boy. you haven't asked us the bread for gb news. what weekends. she's trying to get rid of me. oh, no. knock it off. and stop. we don't anymore. but anyway . but do what is the anyway. but do what is the problem. how much information what's the problem with ? the what's the problem with? the word ugly. i think it's just

honest. there are ugly out there. it is. it honest to a degree . but yes, i'm all for degree. but yes, i'm all for free. so say whatever you want to an extent. i think it depends on the intention behind it. and you are intending to insult then . it's a different matter and let's not be nasty. it's not a nice . what i will say is that nice. what i will say is that since position in ukip , i have since position in ukip, i have now become extreme aware of how many awful people there are on twitter. i thought seen it all and now i constantly, constantly amount of conversations that i have to have about my appearance all ludicrous. yeah you know i get called those names all the time and it just goes over my head. no, but it very much alive in society and it's very much a whole load of people who say such horrible intention. and that has got to stop this was a joke and it's gone too far and we have to keep on standing up against the war agenda because it just got to stop. now how about this, though, which is

that i think i will agree i'm being deliberately provocative i think the word ugly is it's not a nice word. it's a loaded word . it is opinion. as you said, it's to whereas i guess it's subject to whereas i guess fat is simply bmi, isn't it? that's just like the scales don't lie . whereas i think the don't lie. whereas i think the ugly thing is for. do you think, david, that people in society ought aim to be attractive ? do ought aim to be attractive? do you think that's something that people because, you know, carol sikora tweeted today, the top cancer expert and professor of oncology, he that actually most people are fat can do something about it and he's like sort it out. i don't think the case of seeking to be attractive , i seeking to be attractive, i think that's the case of him seeking to be healthy. well, yeah. and to take pressure off the nhs a time when it's on the message. so can message. right. right. so we can agree fat thing which is agree on the fat thing which is i try to have a good diet and take exercise but but should we to more attractive too. to get more attractive too. i mean good to their hair mean good people to their hair and after that that's and look after that that's a different that's not about different thing that's not about attractiveness that's attractiveness i think that's

about about about neatness. that's about depending , that's depending on the context, that's about respecting. make about respecting. if they make an be less ugly. an effort, they'll be less ugly. but say, well, should but i would say, well, should people try to more attractive? should they to be more should they try to be more intelligent, gifted? intelligent, musically gifted? it's you conceive it's about what you conceive to be important priorities of be the important priorities of life. with on life. but i agree with you on bafic life. but i agree with you on basic standards turnout we basic standards of turnout we seem a very slovenly seem to be a very slovenly nafion seem to be a very slovenly nation now if you compare photographs of general crowds you 20 years people you with 20 years ago, people are less careful their are much less careful their sunday best use of the sun . i sunday best use of the sun. i should bought a tie when . i should have bought a tie when. i came what exactly were came in here. what exactly were you dressed down friday? listen, i'm going to get back to my panel we got lots more panel because we got lots more to after. in the to come after. live in the studio. lord michael howard tells amazing story . it's studio. lord michael howard tells amazing story. it's in tells his amazing story. it's in two parts it's a mark meets special. looking forward to that one. and in my take it ten, i've got a positive message for this country. it's time for all of us to be friends again and message around unite around which we can all unite it. don't forget, we got the papers exactly 1030 sharp. papers at exactly 1030 sharp. you can say you watch to it with full panel reaction. those full panel reaction. keep those emails coming at gbnews.uk. see

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tomorrow's papers at exactly 30 lots to get through including that take at ten. but first, the headunes that take at ten. but first, the headlines with bethany elsey elsey . mark thank you. i am elsey. mark thank you. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. eurostar says it's being forced to cancel its services to london on boxing day because . the rmt on boxing day because. the rmt strikes will close the uk's high speed line . it's asked more than speed line. it's asked more than 40,000 union members strike for a third time this week following an ongoing dispute over pay and condition . rmt leader mick lynch condition. rmt leader mick lynch says little progress has been made during negotiations , but he made during negotiations, but he believes a compromise is achievable more industrial action is planned for tomorrow . action is planned for tomorrow. new data . at least action is planned for tomorrow. new data. at least £4.1 million in tax payers money was handed avanti west coast last year despite being the worst train operator for delays . the office

operator for delays. the office for rail and road says only around 60% of its stops were on time between . april and june 20, time between. april and june 20, 21. but the government says they signed off on the bonuses based on operational performance and customer experience . labour has customer experience. labour has called the payments scandalous waste of money . a man from waste of money. a man from leicestershire who murdered his partner in his parent's home has been sentenced to life prison with a minimum term of 23 years. ross mccollam was dating his colleague megan when he strangled her and cut throat last year . the court heard how last year. the court heard how he tried to cover up her death by hiding a clothes in nearby bins and leaving a voicemail on her phone . her family described her phone. her family described him as the definition of a monster . i him as the definition of a monster. i know him as the definition of a monster . i know how difficult monster. i know how difficult has been my parents and sister to the court every day listening to the court every day listening to the court every day listening to the web of spun by someone making the only knew whom she trusted someone who clearly had no look forward to . we're the

no look forward to. we're the ones now serving the life sentence. no amount of time can bnng sentence. no amount of time can bring them back. we have to carry on with our lives as best as we can. but megan will never leave our thoughts . a man and a leave our thoughts. a man and a woman have been arrested after two young children were found in east london. emergency services were called to cornwallis road in dagenham. this afternoon. the boys, aged and five, were pronounced at the scene. it's understood. the man and woman were known to both children and they remain police custody . they remain police custody. police are investigate a suspected triple murder in northamptonshire and assault. he was an nhs nurse and her two young children, jeeva , gyamfi, young children, jeeva, gyamfi, sachi were at a house in kettering yesterday . a 52 year kettering yesterday. a 52 year old man is being questioned connection with their deaths . connection with their deaths. and three people are in critical condition . one person has been condition. one person has been arrested after a suspected crowd crush at a venue in south london

has . just died . the met police has. just died. the met police has. just died. the met police has launched an investigation after officers called to the brixton o2 academy last night. video shows a large crowd of people trying to force their way into the concert. say they are reviewing videos , social media reviewing videos, social media and cctv europe today on tv onune and cctv europe today on tv online and dub plus the radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to . back to. mark my thanks to bethany elsey returns at 11. to mark dolan tonight , big returns at 11. to mark dolan tonight, big stories, big guests and big opinions in. the news agenda with my panel. is it to wear makeup in the office and should we be opening presents early? plus papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full panel reaction . my mark meade's guest

reaction. my mark meade's guest is a tory big hitter who is leader of the party and an iconic home secretary , lord iconic home secretary, lord michael howard live in the studio for a mock meets special. but first, my take it . studio for a mock meets special. but first, my take it. ten i think this for tweet of the if not of this century . the not of this century. the commentator andrew yang posted you remember when a friend could do or say something you disagree with and still be your friend. let's get to that wonderful everything thing has become so tribal back in the day it was religion nationality , politics. religion nationality, politics. but everything seems to be an issue over which we can fall out . covid pandemic measures masks and vaccines . it's meat eaters and vaccines. it's meat eaters versus and vegetarians . people

versus and vegetarians. people that, like harry and meghan and others that would see them forevermore. and of course, the b word brexit around which we've seen more division than in any general . america become horribly general. america become horribly split over its leaders, with half country loving trump and half country loving trump and half loving joe biden, even though the painful truth is that they're both pretty dreadful . they're both pretty dreadful. our terribly divided society is not an accident. it's work of software engineers , california software engineers, california and beyond , creating algorithms and beyond, creating algorithms that accelerate hatred and serve as a catalyst to conflict, triggering and making the main angry is now a business as we tear ourselves apart. hoodie wearing billionaires in the united states are laughing the way to the bank. it's time for a ceasefire. we need to be friends

again to get along. i can honestly say back in the day, i can't remember what my friend's politics were . and if i did, politics were. and if i did, i couldn't care less . back in the couldn't care less. back in the day, supporting labour or conservative or lib dem was like spurs , manchester united or spurs, manchester united or liverpool before social media accepted a diversity views. we had a concept of otherness where you think something your which is different to what i think and that's okay or even normal perhaps desirable we've got to get out of these tribes because if we don't come together and accept each other for who we are and what we are, then i worry for the of our society . we for the of our society. we should embrace who are different from us , who think different from us, who think different things that would be fun and who knows, we might even learn something here in the united kingdom . a bruising two and kingdom. a bruising two and a half years with politically motivated sections of our society to leverage gender race

and god knows what else to create division. it's time to. stop fighting to stop shouting and start talking and listening . if britain can come together , . if britain can come together, will achieve so much as we have in the past , will achieve so much as we have in the past, but carry on like this and. all of that will be lost forever . let's try to have lost forever. let's try to have a nice new year year. a it's time now for mark mates in, which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics, sport, showbiz beyond. tonight, one of the best known and most respected and experienced politicians of generation, the former home secretary and leader of the conservative party who held cabinet positions under john major and margaret thatcher. lord michael howard. the right honourable, the lord howard of lime. welcome to the

show, sir. lynne lynne. i knew i'd fall at the last hurdle in practising all day, but not well enough. quite a fancy title, isn't it ? well, it means the isn't it? well, it means the village we live in, in kent . and village we live in, in kent. and part of my constituency . and so part of my constituency. and so it seemed the obvious of place . it seemed the obvious of place. and i'm now never safe visiting . liam, let's be clear about that. not with without armed security . you have had quite the security. you have had quite the career. why politics, michael? because you could have made a fortune in industry. i'm not sure i could have an industry. i might been able to make a bit of money if i'd stayed at the bar because politics gives you greatest opportunity to make difference, to help create a better society . and better society. and i desperately wanted to try give something back to this wonderful country, which been so good to me and my family. country, which been so good to me and my family . and what was me and my family. and what was it about your upbringing made

you a conservative? well my parents ran a small business and. i could see the connection between , the hard work and between, the hard work and enterprise and the need for reward . i was never i was never reward. i was never i was never tempted by by socialism . so at tempted by by socialism. so at all they never conservatives, actually. and until i got active in conservative politics. but i think the values which they lived by were conservative values . and therefore, whether values. and therefore, whether any formative experiences that shaped your politics. i mean, why didn't you fancy at that time ? because never it never time? because never it never really worked has it. it's been tried and it's never really worked . and it seems to me that worked. and it seems to me that the real difference to how a society works springs from the effort enterprise of individuals and we have to encourage that effort and enterprise and that's

that's absolutely crucial . you that's absolutely crucial. you became an iconic secretary, which was, i guess, a career high points at a very important for the history of this country . well, we've had many, many high . and so high points. . well, we've had many, many high . and so high points . and i high. and so high points. and i was very privileged to have that opportunity. a tough, no nonsense home secretary . well, nonsense home secretary. well, it was quite interesting . i'd it was quite interesting. i'd never expected to be home secretary and. so i went in to the job with a completely open mind and spent the first few weeks, months really listening, especially listening to police officers. i spent a lot of time in police canteens because they're the people are in front line of maintain law and order and. a lot of what i did over the next four years and was result of what i learned during that period of listening 93 to

97. what kind of a what kind of a prime minister was john major 7 a prime minister was john major ? john. major let me get on with things . i ? john. major let me get on with things. i i could count on fingers of one hand the number of times he might have asked a question or asked chat to me about something or other. he was in my area at least he was hands off. he let me get on things and i no problem. i hope he didn't any problem with that. and it was it was bumpy time for that administration, wasn't it, economically and the rest was. and it was a bumpy time for me in the home office because i was trying change them many things which been there for quite a while . and if you try and change while. and if you try and change things you meet resistance because there are a lot of vested and people who think things should carry on being done as , they've always been done as, they've always been done. and so was a it was a tough time, but i was i determined to do what i could to

start bringing crime down. i was when i went there, that was something that was impossible that they me a graph which showed the crime had gone up at an average of about 5% a year for the last 50 years. and they said to me the first thing you must realise home secretary, is that nothing can do that there's nothing you can do about and i didn't take that about it. and i didn't take that and determined to try and i were determined to try change things that crime come change things so that crime come down and it did and useful that you were lawyer, that you had experience and of the criminal justice system . it helped . and justice system. it helped. and what what about those forces of resistance against you was that an early example of the blob . it an early example of the blob. it certainly wasn't called that then. certainly wasn't called that then . i never heard that word then. i never heard that word until decades later . and it until decades later. and it wasn't it wasn't so much the civil servants , to be fair, civil servants, to be fair, because i think if a minister is clear about what he wants to do, i don't determine it to do it and set about it in the right.

the civil service will do their best to do what the minister wants . so i wouldn't i wouldn't wants. so i wouldn't i wouldn't cast the civil service except at the beginning . at the beginning the beginning. at the beginning it was difficult . but after a it was difficult. but after a while the of resistance were outside the civil service. you became secretary of state for employment in 1990. and of course, margaret thatcher was the outgoing prime minister we'll never see the like of her again, will we? we went she was not going when . i became not going when. i became secretary of state for employment. but she did she did leave ten or 11 months later. i a great supporter of hers . leave ten or 11 months later. i a great supporter of hers. i was very privileged serve in her cabinet and i think she was a great prime minister. now, obviously views vary on that on that divisive topic recollection recollection. very recollection . recollections vary too. yes, but i she was a great prime minister clearly a

transformative figure . landslide transform ative figure. landslide election transformative figure. landslide election victories , an economic election victories, an economic success story, and of course, a war that she in the falklands . war that she in the falklands. did she lose her golden towards the end would you say . yes. to the end would you say. yes. to some extent. did you see that did you witness that at first hand. you could see it. i think a lot of people thought would retire after ten years. and i think that's what dennis wanted her to do. and i think that would have been the wise thing to do. and if she'd done that , to do. and if she'd done that, her reputation would, i think, have been enhanced . i think when have been enhanced. i think when you've been prime minister for that of time , it becomes more that of time, it becomes more difficult perhaps to listen to the views of which she'd always been rather good at having to temper your own instincts by, testing them against the arguments of others again, which she'd been very good , less good

she'd been very good, less good at in the last period. i don't want to be disrespect for to her memory but was there an to which she lost her marbles slightly towards the end. i don't think so. i wouldn't say that towards the end of her life, of course, she did suffer from that sort of thing, but not when she was prime. not that i saw. no, no . prime. not that i saw. no, no. and a colossal work ethic, even the end. amazing. yes yeah. and. and is it true that she head of every department that she knew everyone's brief inside out ? everyone's brief inside out? pretty much , yes. i remember pretty much, yes. i remember once she me around for a drink in private his office in the house of and i was about to take responsibility for that a bill that she had me to take through parliament and we produced a document and she i tried to mug it up as best i could. but she to me now michael, it up as best i could. but she to me now michael , this footnote to me now michael, this footnote on page 58 what exactly that mean and i'm afraid i didn't

have the first idea you would know what meant you were nonplussed. well eedris didn't mispronounce . the name of lynne mispronounce. the name of lynne the right honourable the lord howe would have. liam is with lord michael howe. it's a mark meet special. no one gets to parts except somebody of michael's stature , so why don't michael's stature, so why don't you get your questions in now to howard market gb news dot uk we'll talk illegal immigration what would lord howard do. also brexit it working and michael howard's of our new prime minister rishi sunak plus the papers at 1030 sharp. don't go anywhere .

we've got the papers exactly 1030 sharp with full panel reaction . it's a mark meet reaction. it's a mark meet special . i'm delighted to special. i'm delighted to welcome the former leader of , welcome the former leader of, the conservative party, former home secretary as well. the

right , the lord howard of right, the lord howard of michael howard . michael, an michael howard. michael, an email has come in and this is lots of emails. email has come in and this is lots of emails . they want you to lots of emails. they want you to be prime minister. you did have a crack at it to that you did reverse labour's lead . we mean reverse labour's lead. we mean 97 halved labour's majority in 2005. 2005. that was it. that was, that was the election. yeah. you may didn't do enough paved the way for david cameron to the election to halve the other side's you fight an election to win fisher didn't know we did make progress you enjoy being leader of the conservative party was very hard work i'm very very demanding i'm full 24 hours a day but i very lucky in one respect. we didn't really have social that and i'm i'm very pleased we didn't. do you think you took one for the team being leader of the tories because i just think that was a time the conservatives were always going to be out power. and as i've mentioned, you did

that decline what. i didn't think i'd put quite that way. think i'd put it quite that way. i was that i came in a quite a low ebb for the party but i was there to try and bring things together and put us in a place where even if we couldn't win my we might be able to win the one after that, which is of course happened. yeah. you paved the way for. david cameron, did you advise david cameron when he became leader of the party. i don't think needed my advice. david david knew what he had to do and have to do it and did very well . i've got an do and have to do it and did very well. i've got an email here and. it's from let have a look at who has asked this . i'll look at who has asked this. i'll get the name shortly, but a couple of people are asking what , was your appraisal of boris johnson as prime minister ? johnson as prime minister? boris's most remarkable man with phenomenal gifts and abilities . phenomenal gifts and abilities. and achieved some great things when he prime minister, he got

brexit done. he he was prime minister. i think rishi sunak a lot of the credit for, the furlough scheme and the way we got the pandemic. but boris was prime minister was it title to credit that he was absolutely first in line to support. credit that he was absolutely first in line to support . and first in line to support. and enormous credit for that a lot things he did deserves a lot of credit for but as we he had his his flaws and his faults in the end they were his undoing . was end they were his undoing. was he dishonest with you when he under you as party leader ? not under you as party leader? not with me , no . so as a straight with me, no. so as a straight back to straight answer to straight question, what about the current incumbent, then rishi sunak is now the prime minister. what's view of him? i am a huge supporter of rishi sunak. i think we're very lucky to have him as prime minister. we're in a we're in a tough as a country . the pandemic war in

country. the pandemic war in ukraine, all things present, really formidable challenges us. and i think rishi is absolutely the best person to navigate through those challenges. and i think he's a brilliant man very conscientious and hard working and really do think we're very lucky to have him and what needs to happen , the conservatives, in to happen, the conservatives, in order to reverse that labour lead , can it be done? is it lead, can it be done? is it insuperable ? no, it's not insuperable? no, it's not insuperable? no, it's not insuperable and it can be done. let me let me paint a picture what might happen , what i hope what might happen, what i hope will happen. obviously in a year's time . it's highly likely year's time. it's highly likely that inflation will be coming pretty significantly . i hope pretty significantly. i hope that interest rates would be coming down. i hope the economy be recovering and. i think rishi will be able to say to people that we've been through a very tough time, we've all had to make sacrifices, but we've been

we're coming through it and now the time to reap the rewards . the time to reap the rewards. those sacrifices don't throw it away and take labour ruin . now, away and take labour ruin. now, whether whether that pitch will succeed . in 2024 or whenever it succeed. in 2024 or whenever it will be , i don't know. but will be, i don't know. but i think there's a reasonable prospect that that may the case. smart money might be on a may 2024 poll or perhaps october. it's unlikely they'll stretch it to january 25, do you think? i have no idea . to january 25, do you think? i have no idea. i to january 25, do you think? i have no idea . i mean, you have no idea. i mean, you wouldn't you wouldn't want to be a hostage to fortune if you were a hostage to fortune if you were a leader at that point. would you. no, wouldn't. know, you. no, you wouldn't. you know, you've lot of things to you've got a lot of things to wait. nice to the option, wait. nice to have the option, isn't yes. yes. i mean, john isn't it? yes. yes. i mean, john major it to the to the major did take it to the to the why pretty well in 1997 and what abouts ? immigration sometimes in abouts? immigration sometimes in the summer when the water is upwards of a thousand people entering the country illegally via the channel it's a big job

of workforce to get. this week rishi, sunak has announced his five point plan, including a deal albania to return albanians . is that enough? what would you be ? i hope that would be enough. be? i hope that would be enough. i think it's a good. i hope it would be enough . the one way in would be enough. the one way in which could put an end to this traffic is to have agreement with france that they take everyone back and actually , we everyone back and actually, we had such an agreement with france when i was home secretary and they did take everyone back . it may be a bit of a challenge to put that in place. i think it is actually still in place nationally , but i obviously not nationally, but i obviously not being enforced. and if you could if you could do that , then it's if you could do that, then it's different and says advantage because once once the people who go france in order to get into

the uk realise that is not a route they might stop going into france and it's not really in france and it's not really in france is interest to have the camps in calais and the rest of it, but whether that can revived, i don't know . you're revived, i don't know. you're a top lawyer. the clock's against . what about chucking the european convention ? human european convention? human rights? would that help? is it possible. is it a good look for britain. it's possible. it's not necessary . really. a good look necessary. really. a good look and not necessarily a good thing. it is. it has been overstated by someone the tory right. do you think has a solution? it's very difficult . solution? it's very difficult. we at it when we were government and under john major and, it was and underjohn major and, it was pointed out to us that only people at that stage, at any rate who left the european convention on, human rights, were the greek current, which wasn't entirely a precedent that we wanted to follow. can brexit be a success. will it be? oh, i

think so. you have to take account the we've encountered in the last couple of years since brexit. i've already mentioned the pandemic, the war in ukraine. these would have presented us with formidable problems whether we were in the european union or not. but given time, we would be in control of our own affairs. that's bottom line. and of course , can make line. and of course, can make a success of it. we're a great country. i think we've got a future. a profound privilege to have you on the program. thank you. i wish you a merry christmas and a lovely wife and family. and i do hope we get to reconnect in new year. fount of all knowledge. a fascinating individual, of the most individual, one of the most experienced respected and best known politicians in the country, michael howard. we've the papers don't go the papers next. don't go anywhere .

it's just gone 1030. so it's time for headlines. the front pages , as always. friday, pages, as always. friday, saturday, sunday 1030. set your watch to brackets. 1031. let's have a look at telegraph and have a look at telegraph and have the following . the sussexes have the following. the sussexes will receive to coronation far being cancelled. the royal family will not respond . calls family will not respond. calls for titles to be stripped in to retain dignity. the duke , retain dignity. the duke, duchess of sussex will at the coronation of king charles , coronation of king charles, despite their public criticism of, the royal family. this according the daily telegraph lovely photograph of the king on the front page . the telegraph. the front page. the telegraph. the king dances holocaust survivors at, a jewish community centre in north london , and centre in north london, and praised the work of the charity that runs it as wonderful . that runs it as wonderful. ambulance strikes will put at risk the public faces bigger from ambulance strikes next week , according to oliver dowden as

hospitals are told to empty as many beds as possible . the many beds as possible. the office minister oliver dowden is in charge of contingency planning for the strikes, said despite the government's best efforts , significant dangers lie efforts, significant dangers lie ahead. efforts, significant dangers lie ahead . interest rate rise could ahead. interest rate rise could crash house prices across this there will expose buy to let of 365,000 property as to could trigger a wave of sales that risks driving down house prices. while that's a good or a bad story depending on where you're standing and also a brixton crush woman down steps across at a london music venue in which people were critically injured is expected to be investigated after were accused of pushing a woman down a flight of stairs . a woman down a flight of stairs. a devastating story that won the daily express next hurt still seeks peace with forgiving father king . will overlook father king. will overlook prince harry's hurtful outburst

and strive to reunite his warring family. and strive to reunite his warring family . charles loves warring family. charles loves his son dearly, but hopes he can put the past behind him . the put the past behind him. the times now sunak needs get a grip. thousands of hospital will be sent home early as the prepares for next week's walk outs with the head of the nursing union. action will escalate in the new year. the daily mail now as ambulance walk out a stark warning, hospitals empty beds before nine, nine, nine strike the action . nine strike the action. paramedics is threatening chaos with the sick even more risk than usual . walkouts by nurses than usual. walkouts by nurses this week . also why meghan is this week. also why meghan is still invited to the coronation the sun now glitter free in weeks pop gary glitter will be released from within weeks after serving half of his 16 year term. he 78 guilty of sex attacks on three girls aged 8 to

13. he's likely to be tagged he still has millions in the bank and could live in his london apartment a, source has confirmed. he is free to walk the guardian found after parties at trust his government home. exclusive of white powder found events at evening house and ten downing street say staff the weekend britain hit by a triple whammy of flu colds and covid royals follow queen's keep mum as in keep still my supposed king and wills dignity first and will not hit out at harry and daily star. oh the toilet coppers warned dodgy perfume bottle down the boozer more likely contains human pee hook bottles of designer perfume flooding the market this christmas actually contains cyanide and urine how very rare . and those are your front pages pages and look let's get reaction now from rebecca jane

nelson and dave oldroyd. bolt as nigel stated that you go look thrilled he does he said delighted to be here. and let me tell you, we do have lots of stories, interesting and interesting story there across several papers actually in the mail. nelson, why still mail. nigel nelson, why still ianed mail. nigel nelson, why still invited to the correlation . it's invited to the correlation. it's very clear that palace is media people are letting it be known the there will be no civil there will be no cancellation. they'll their titles and they'll be at their titles and they'll be at the coronation . yes. the palace the coronation. yes. the palace has been obviously briefing all day on the last bombing. the couple. yes but they. but what will happen behind closed doors be much more interesting. but, yes, they've been briefing the fact that there won't be a rift of. the they can come to coronation. everything's going to be lovely . they'll all be to be lovely. they'll all be smiles out in public. but as i

say behind closed doors i think they're for in real pasting. do you think the cons traditional crisis is now over if they don't get stripped of their titles? what's strategy? is king charles thinking to himself? look, they will eventually out of material. this story will eventually run out of steam. we just wait for that to happen the way i mean, over the constitutional crisis, is it i mean, that the. i mean, it's not that important , to be it's not that important, to be honest. i think that probably charles feels that that's the way to treated that if you if the palace thought reacting that they really few what is going on and make run and run. so at the i mean if i was advising king charles at the moment say do nothing make some some nice noises towards them. that's all you have to do to strip them of their titles would have mild constitute implications, wouldn't it? perhaps optically ? wouldn't it? perhaps optically? theidea wouldn't it? perhaps optically? the idea of just ripping their titles off them, i mean, it

feels like that set a precedent. well, i mean, he's already away. we're not taking it away, but he's done things like . hrh, he's done things like. hrh, i think hrh has gone it. yeah, but the what i thinking was the council of state which is a much more important constitutional position because if the king is available or if he's sick, then the, then somebody else stands in and, and under the system we have before prince harry, one of those people was his line to the throne that actually did stand in for the king now, he has not been of. but they've princess on and somebody else and the idea would that harry would never get to do it that has a constitutional implication. i think the rest is just cosmetic. what does history tell us about this situation, the strategy of the royals, which is softly, softly to look the other way, is this has this got good historical is it the right thing to do? david let me start with the last bit. first, i think

it's exactly the right thing to do to say that the duke duchess of sussex weren't going to be ianed of sussex weren't going to be invited to the to the coronation. when i be disastrous, churlish . well, it disastrous, churlish. well, it would be churlish in the first instance. it would disastrous instance. it would be disastrous for monarchy it for the monarchy because it would show them be affected by such that they're not such things that they're not supposed affected such supposed to be affected by, such as opinion and as public opinion and particularly american public opinion, cares what opinion, frankly, who cares what the think? they're not the americans think? they're not part constitutional part of our constitutional settlement. have absolutely settlement. they have absolutely no impact not. we retain a no impact on or not. we retain a monarchy or whether we go republican. it's the historical precedent. well, i suppose the most recent one is the duke and duchess of windsor they were not ianed duchess of windsor they were not invited to. i don't think they were invited anyway to the coronation in 1953. it was not he was certainly was not invited to the coronation of king george six in 1937. so i think the idea is that once you've backed out of the system you don't get to opt in and choose when you come back. except of course that the if the sovereign decides that you should there the basic you should be there the basic

point the sussexes is i think that at the they're riding the crest of a wave of their own design that has you know they have set a particularly effective in some quarters idea that they were mistreated that the duchess of sussex was not given correct initiation . her given correct initiation. her royal duties, which i think is incorrect. but this narrative has some purchase and the royal strategy. the pr strategy from the palace seems be to let that wave die the sands and then carry on. and then we hope that in years to come, the sussexes will be able be brought back into the fold. whether or not they allow that through is entirely a question for them, because it will be their actions entirely a question for them, beca decide vill be their actions entirely a question for them, beca decide this. e their actions entirely a question for them, beca decide this. e their think s that decide this. i don't think that decide this. i don't think that the and the prince of that the king and the prince of wales have any other design other than to hope that the duke of perhaps duchess, of sussex, perhaps his duchess, can be back in the can one day be back in in the royal family jane is royal family rebecca jane is king right to look other king charles right to look other way seeing this way after seeing this institution and his family attacked so readily? yeah you would look the other way. no,

but you know i'm not right and. i know that i'm a bull in a china shop . i don't think it's china shop. i don't think it's for everybody. certainly what a royal would do . no, i think that royal would do. no, i think that the handling it pretty well because the narrative , the harry because the narrative, the harry and meghan of spawn is exactly that they attacks the press is terrible . and when you say terrible. and when you say they've done it by their own design i couldn't agree more they crossed that they're writing designed it they've calculated it and they know exactly what they're doing. so the palace and the royals can't argue back because then they would go, oh, see, we were right , they are abusive. they have done this to us and they have done this to us and they have done that. so of course, they're going to set the moral high ground and well done them. but, you know, it's time they went. they want a private life clear off the problem with off and have it the problem with stripping of their titles or uninviting them from the coronation is . it plays into coronation is. it plays into their narrative of being victims, doesn't it? so that's

why charles is right not to give them pleasure and not to give them pleasure and not to give them yeah, because that's them that. yeah, because that's documentary. if they don't go to the coronation. i know. and it's like, know, what's another like, you know, what's another book? 6 hours of a documentary, get a that was about a 45 get a grip. that was about a 45 minute segment at best. it was absolutely ludicrous. it two people's not artistic trail of nonsense . nigel, you've been nonsense. nigel, you've been reporting on the vagaries of british politics for a decade now. you know , a story is now. you know, a story is running out of steam . when will running out of steam. when will this one run out of steam? will it ever ? well, i mean, i think it ever? well, i mean, i think that that after the book's come after prince prince harry's book, not the stop, which is a full at the moment, this is obviously what the king is doing at the moment, is trying to bnng at the moment, is trying to bring a full stop to it. and we've got the book to go . i we've got the book to go. i don't think they'll ever, ever come back out into the never be allowed back here . what i what i allowed back here. what i what i think will happen when you have these major family events which these major family events which the coronation is for that then yes they will be there because

you won't want to snub them . but you won't want to snub them. but in a sense that they will out of material after a while at moment they've got themselves to they've only got themselves to sell. think i can agree with sell. i think i can agree with partially won't be partially that they won't be allowed in, but i think allowed back in, but i think there is every possibility that if the duke and duchess of sussex the of sussex divorce, the duke of sussex, allowed back in sussex, will be allowed back in given to go to a different. yes. but and i think part of but i and i think that part of the strategy because as a the palace strategy because as a friend of mine said she's friend of mine once said she's going a university term going to be a university term wife. she'll be there for three or when she gets or five years when she gets bored and when the momentum runs out, i'm sure will decide out, i'm sure she will decide that she wants to do something like at which like run for president, at which point stage i think is point the stage is, i think is a very good, careful from the palace. are ensuring that palace. they are ensuring that the door always remains open for prince to his family, prince to return to his family, whether the duchess is whether meghan the duchess is allowed back, i think a very, allowed back, i think is a very, very different question would the harry back if the public welcome harry back if things were not to work out with meghan i suppose we hope they do work but if they were to work out but if they were to a divorce. well being polite i suppose, but i, i mean, i

wouldn't it's not great for the case.i wouldn't it's not great for the case. i think i think if prince harry were to be and i think if he were to perhaps recount of some of the wild accusations he's made his family and he's made against his family and against nation, therefore, i think there would be sense think there would be a sense that he be welcome back that he would be welcome back because there's residual affection hugely affection for him, he was hugely popular prodigal son, hugely popular the prodigal son, hugely popular the prodigal son, hugely popular army officer , as popular as an army officer, as a progenitor of charity and, you know, as a really good media performer. the public performer. i think the public had his had affection for turned his back his yes he back on his duties. yes he didn't on the nation, didn't turn back on the nation, but part of the christian but surely part of the christian ethic for which royal family sticks is that a forgiveness. sticks by is that a forgiveness. but public with but what about the public with pubuc but what about the public with public forgive nigel. well, i'm sure these the sure i'm sure that these the royal family can forgive. i just don't see there's a way back for . i just once you burn your you burn your bridges quite so much as as prince has that how do you come back and fulfil some kind of royal. what about this prince harry single harry back in the palace in ten years time? boris back in number ten. anything's

possible and donald trump back in the white house. i think i'll go and join meghan in america i'm last word i don't have i'm rj last word i don't have one now i but in the end it's, i think a personal tragedy i love that picture of prince charles on the front page of the express. hurt king still seeks peace . paris with harry. excuse peace. paris with harry. excuse me still seeks peace with harry. and i think we wish that upon family. many more great stories to come. we'll talk about the right time is to open christmas presents a colleague who i saw this week was wearing christmas present for her partner , like in present for her partner, like in mid—set what's that all about? we'll talk about the etiquette of when you open your christmas presents and also what to make up in the workplace. is it outdated socially .

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of david oldroyd. both rebecca jane and. nigel nelson. three brilliant commentators and good friends of mine. i'm delighted and honoured to say let's have a look at a couple more papers, stories, big . this hospital's stories, big. this hospital's told beds before nine, nine, nine strike a crisis the nhs and this time self which is not only striking nurses but striking ambulance drivers . do they enjoy ambulance drivers. do they enjoy your support? rebecca jane no , your support? rebecca jane no, sorry . this is a matter of life sorry. this is a matter of life or death for people. what on earth is you doing? this is absolutely ridiculous. every man and his dog is striking. absolutely ridiculous. every man and his dog is striking . and and his dog is striking. and something has to be done about. because whole, everybody in because as a whole, everybody in this country is affected by what is going on. and they have the luxury of employment certain luxury of employment of certain types and those seeking a 19, 19 or 17, 19, 90% pay rise almost in place person couldn't ask for that a million years. my client is a clara so no i think it's

absolutely atrocious and they need to it. yeah i mean could, could this action backfire . the could this action backfire. the unions is public support for these strikes waning, in your estimation ? at the moment? not estimation? at the moment? not no. i mean , public support is no. i mean, public support is still quite strong for all of them. i mean, including the rail workers, i mean, rmt still enjoying public support. workers, i mean, rmt still enjoying public support . the enjoying public support. the nurses certainly are . i think i nurses certainly are. i think i think on the on the nurses front , probably there is a deal to be done. , probably there is a deal to be done . the government will enter done. the government will enter pay done. the government will enter pay talks because 19% may be reasonable all, but it's not realistic. right david. it's the winter of discontent . it i mean, winter of discontent. it i mean, we've got union strife you can't send a card to your granny all by last minute gift. send a card to your granny all by last minute gift . the send a card to your granny all by last minute gift. the pubs are empty because of the rail strikes, which is a disaster for hospitality inflation's raging. we're not an a place, are we? we are not. and i don't agree that they are this deal or this demand is realistic. and i certainly don't think it's in

any way reasonable whenever . i any way reasonable whenever. i see a story like this. i wonder how long it's to be before britain wakes up and realises that we're held by the that we're being held by the health . single thing health service. single thing thatis health service. single thing that is wrong with public budgeting comes to the fact that the nhs is taking 42 and a half % of day to spending. if we did not have system like an anchor around our necks dragging us down, we wouldn't be able to have better public services in other areas. but because people have a sentimental attachment often a reasonable attachment based on the treatment over the years but nowadays and unfound attachment to the nhs, we'd be able to have a more sensible, a better and more grown up discussion about this country discussion about in this country as , long support as it is, long as people support the health in its unreformed way and, its way of gobbling up more and, its way of gobbling up more and more of the public and more and of the public resources, frankly we as resources, frankly we might as well bother about well not bother talking about anything. let's do three in anything. else let's do three in three. can't done . gary three. it can't be done. gary glitter weeks a lawyer. glitter free in weeks a lawyer. what's your view on this? rebecca jane absolutely disgusting. lock up for life. yeah. 60 years he served. half

of it is multi—millionaire. he's laughing the to the bank laughing all the to the bank drugs found off parties at trusts government home we don't know any individuals involved it's not surprising cocaine is all over house. i think it is everywhere . yeah. and so it everywhere. yeah. and so it would be young researchers i don't think we're accusing liz truss it herself just truss of doing it herself just know some she would guess know some night she would guess there might done. nigel, there might have done. nigel, you lively tonight. you seem pretty lively tonight. i'm i'm thank you very good strong in the green room. that's what it is. nigel nigel is high on life. what it is. nigel nigel is high on life . controversial canadian on life. controversial canadian media personality jordan peterson has said that women shouldn't wear makeup . the shouldn't wear makeup. the workplace as it seems to sexual take a look. we don't know what the rules are like. what? here's a rule. don't talk about no makeup in the workplace. why that? why should you wear makeup in the workplace? isn't that sexually provocative? what's purpose of makeup? it's 74. we would like to just put on makeup. why to i don't know why do you make your lips red? because they turn red during

sexual arousal that's why rebecca jane to you. i'm upset lately why are you covering your lips . in they've just taken it lips. in they've just taken it back to 100 years the comment that he says if a professional doesn't want sexual harassment in the workplace she's making a critical mistake by wearing makeup you absolute disgusting human does terrible terrible it's like saying that somebody actually deserves sexual harassment just because we wear makeup we don't makeup for men or for other people or for them to attracted to us. we do it for ourselves in our own confidence. if i go glance of myself going past the mirror and look like a dog that affects my sex, my confidence for the rest of the day is the existence makeup sexist in itself? the fact men don't wear it and women do? does that show women are under that show that women are under more to. look a certain more pressure to. look a certain way. we are under a lot pressure to look as though he's got a point. and he look, point. and if he says, look,

don't wear makeup, he liberating women. absolutely women. no absolutely not. people are whatever are allowed. do whatever they want they should be want to do and they should be that choice and we shouldn't be judged by lunatics saying that we by the way, to be we deserve, by the way, to be ford's dry boat caked ford's david all dry boat caked make up tonight. well my dear as i think you might as well make up in the workplace i think must be little careful here because be a little careful here because it me from that clip it seemed to me from that clip as dr. peterson being as though dr. peterson being provocative to the person he was discussing with. was discussing this with. he was trying the person trying to get the other person to which is to bring something, which is what quickly people opening what does quickly people opening their christmas presents early. what does quickly people opening th seems stmas presents early. what does quickly people opening th seems to nas presents early. what does quickly people opening thseems to be presents early. what does quickly people opening th seems to be a resents early. what does quickly people opening th seems to be a new ils early. what does quickly people opening thseems to be a new disease. my it seems to be a new disease. my son trainers in. and son needed trainers in. and i said, well, that's your christmas . so, know, i don't christmas. so, you know, i don't know he's going to get on know what he's going to get on the 25th when's the correct time to when do to open your presents? when do you do it? well, on christmas eve. then the rest after eve. and then the rest after church on christmas morning. i was on christmas like was at one on christmas eve like palette cleanser. think when palette cleanser. i think when you midnight you get back from midnight mails, one just to mails, you can open one just to say, and then nigel, say, well done. and then nigel, briefly, that christmas present is only present if it's not is only a present if it's not opened at christmas. nicely opened at christmas. oh, nicely done. answer done. and rebecca. quick answer . day. there

. percent christmas day. there you . we're tomorrow day. you. we're back tomorrow day. thanks to my panel and to you for watching headlines is next. good i'm alex deakin and this is your weather update from your latest weather update from the office. the weekend the met office. the weekend promises changes. it is promises big changes. it is going to steadily be turning milder. and as it does so, some wet sunday could lead wet weather on sunday could lead to spell snow for time. to a spell of snow for time. that's going to come from low pressure systems lurking behind me atlantic . the me way out in the atlantic. the time we've got high time being we've got high pressure across the south making for another very frosty night further telling bit further north. it is telling bit milder, still cold enough . milder, but still cold enough. some we continue see some problems as we continue see some hill snow and low levels, rain and sleet, showers potentially turning things quite icy from wales coast, north—west england and into parts of scotland for much of the south, as i said, it is very cold again in rural spots , negative double in rural spots, negative double figures and similar temperatures across north east scotland, perhaps where there's some lying on the ground. so potentially icy on saturday morning, we've still got these showers coming in. quite a lot of cloud tomorrow compared to today

across. northwest england and nonh across. northwest england and north wales at low levels, north wales rain at low levels, but snow continue. but some snow will continue. certainly snow in the showers across highlands of , across the highlands of, scotland. though, it's scotland. for many, though, it's a and a bright saturday. a dry and a bright saturday. still cold, but not quite as cold temperatures are just starting to lift as the switch round to a south westerly that means we'll see a few more showers across north wales northern england during saturday evening with some snow in the hills and therefore icy there be another widespread frost on saturday evening. but actually temperatures through the night as start to see this change. wet weather just edging as start to see this change. wet weatherjust edging into weather just edging into southwest means that, yes it will be frosty through the evening, but temperatures will be picking up through the night as weather arrives, as this wet weather arrives, though, hits cold there though, and hits cold air. there could snow for could be some heavy snow for a time sunday. wales, time on sunday. wales, particularly the high ground into parts of the midlands and then into england scotland. then into england and scotland. that snow could cause some problems, but even further south, hitting frozen south, the rain hitting frozen surfaces may things very . surfaces may make things very. so we do have warnings in place still cold across the

north—east, but is turning milder through .

sunday welcome back. you're watching . welcome back. you're watching. i'm bethany elsey with your stories. eurostar says it's being forced to cancel its to london on boxing day because the rmt strikes close the uk's high speed line. it's asked more than 40,000 union members strike for a time this week following an dispute over pay and conditions. rmt leader mick lynch says little progress has been made dunng little progress has been made during negotiations , but he during negotiations, but he believes a compromise achievable. more industrial action is planned for tomorrow . action is planned for tomorrow. three women remain in a critical condition tonight after a suspected crush at a concert venue , south london. their age ,