good afternoon. welcome. this is real britain with me.7 emily carver on tv, radio and online . carver on tv, radio and online. now today we'll be discussing the very latest on the winter strikes . some workers are strikes. some workers are refusing to walk out and the cost of the industrial action rising by the could mick rising by the day. could mick lynch about to back down.7 i hope so. i'll be revealing my special plea to the rmt boss. just a moment. plus, we know that union leaders want inflation pay rises

for their members . so i'll be for their members. so i'll be getting the latest on where actually are with price rises , actually are with price rises, inflation be coming down. and we'll be getting the very latest on all the royal drama with the fabulous royal commentator michael including apology michael cole, including apology from lady susan and a good ngozi fulani . all that and more coming fulani. all that and more coming up. but first, it's your latest news headlines headlines . news headlines headlines. exactly one minute passed to here's the latest nhs bosses are urging hospitals to free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by crews in england . they action by crews in england. they say it's vital that government and unions talk urgently resolve the pay dispute for. and unions talk urgently resolve the pay dispute for . the first the pay dispute for. the first day of action on the 21st of december. comes after nhs data showed that one in six patients are now waiting more than an hour to be transferred . hour to be transferred. ambulances to a&e . former ambulances to a&e. former cabinet minister dr. liam fox also worked as a gp told gb news they need to over haul how long

patients remain in critical care. and one of our problems is that we have so many occupying acute beds in acute hospitals, which very expensive, very intensive for staff , and they intensive for staff, and they really don't need to be there . really don't need to be there. we need, in my view, to go back to concept of convalescent hospital . and i think that we hospital. and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting a appropriate care because if you've got people occupying those acute beds who don't need to be there, it doesn't matter how money doesn't matter how much money you the system, you're you pour into the system, you're not to the output not going to get the output that's appropriate that . the that's appropriate for that. the nurses union is warning that the health secretary's negotiating style is hindering efforts to resolve their pay . rcn general resolve their pay. rcn general pat cullen says steve barclay undervalues the work of nurses because it's a 90% female profession . she's urging the profession. she's urging the prime minister to step in before the dispute engulfs nhs. the union has been for a 19% pay rise, but says they would consider any new offer .

consider any new offer. meanwhile, a second walk out is planned for tuesday . beaches planned for tuesday. beaches chiefs are facing more travel delays as members of the rmt union continue their 48 hour strike. trains starting later than usual and finishing earlier with some parts of the country having no service at all. bus drivers in london are also continue their 48 hour strike, adding to the disruption. former conservative adviser claire pearsall told gb news. there's no end in sight irregularly whenever there are negotiations , especially with the rail unions . it never comes out in a unions. it never comes out in a good way. whatever is offered by the government is sneered at as derisory and isn't going to hit the mark. so you do wonder what is the number that mick lynch has in mind .7 what would he has in mind? what would he accept and what the country can afford? but is quite clear that something needs to because the country is pretty much ground to a halt . a woman was critically

a halt. a woman was critically injured in a crush at the 02 academy . brixton has now injured in a crush at the 02 academy. brixton has now died . academy. brixton has now died. the met police has named her 33 year old rebecca khumalo of newham. specialist officers are continuing to provide support her family. two other women aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical condition . thousands of homes condition. thousands of homes are without in north london after a mains pipe burst, causing multiple homes to be flooded. london fire brigade was called to in camden last night after flooding half a metre high affected. more than 100 homes. thames water says some homes remain without water as they continue to assess the damage . continue to assess the damage. more than a quarter of people expect to start the new year in debt, according to research by tesco bank. most believe it will take around 21 months to pay back what they owe. those surveyed say . they've borrowed surveyed say. they've borrowed money from family , friends and money from family, friends and used overdraft , cover energy

used overdraft, cover energy bills and rent. police used overdraft, cover energy bills and rent . police say used overdraft, cover energy bills and rent. police say a man and a woman arrested after two young boys were found dead in london were known the children. emergency services were called to, called wallace road in dagenham yesterday. where discovered the boys aged two and five, both already deceased. the man and woman were arrested separately in nearby locations and remain in custody . the met and remain in custody. the met office has issued yellow weather warnings and, is expecting ice for much scotland, the north and, southwest and wales today . and, southwest and wales today. it comes as blizzards are set to sweep across the north of the country this weekend. temperatures temporarily rise on sunday. however, frost is expected create difficult road conditions as the committee investigating the january capitol riots is reported . capitol riots is reported. preparing to vote on three criminal charges against donald trump. if passed they'll urge the us justice department to indict the former president with

including insurrection , including insurrection, discussions are also set to take place over what to do with donald trump's tax returns, which were obtained last month month . harry and meghan will be month. harry and meghan will be ianed month. harry and meghan will be invited to the king's coronation invited to the king's coronation in may next year, according to the daily telegraph. that's despite the pair making damaging claims levelled at the royal family in their documentary. the newspaper says the guest list yet to be decided, but all members are welcome . if you're members are welcome. if you're watching gb news. we'll bring you more . it happens now. let's you more. it happens now. let's get back to real britain with emily carver . emily carver. welcome back . real britain with welcome back. real britain with me emily carver. so what's coming up on the show today? rmt leader mick lynch has said there are no new proposals on table

after talks with the government. so is hope of christmas miracle deal dwindling or could it be on the horizon? i think so. the bank of england has raised uk interest rates to their highest level for 14 years it battles level for 14 years as it battles to stem soaring prices and, increase the base rate to 3.5, marking ninth time in a row. it has hiked interest rates. but what does this mean for the pennies in your pocket and all these rate rises actually slowing down inflation? we'll have a look at that. and of course, we're talking about it. the duke of sussex has described how it was to have how terrifying it was to have his brother, the prince of wales, shout and scream at him at the sandringham summit in front the queen during the front of the queen during the makes it we'll discuss makes it crisis. we'll discuss that the very latest on that and the very latest on that apology charity ngozi fulani. apology to charity ngozi fulani. that's what we're talking about for the next hour. love to know your thoughts. do you think it's game over for mick lynch? have we hit inflation? and was we hit peak inflation? and was lady right apology to lady hussey right to apology to ngozi fulani or you like me? think the apology should have been the other way round? tweet me gb news. get in touch. you

can email me on gbviews@gbnews.uk . you can watch gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can watch us online too on youtube. so no excuses. please stay tuned . now, excuses. please stay tuned. now, this weekend will be sitting down across the country , write down across the country, write their letters to santa . i their letters to santa. i thought i'd take it upon myself . write one to the grinch. i must start by saying you've let yourself down this week. you're a mean one, mr. lynch. it was all going so well, wasn't . you all going so well, wasn't. you had your media cheerleaders of the political class on your side . you even had a majority of the pubuc . you even had a majority of the public supporting your endeavours. but then the true mick lynch came out , endeavours. but then the true mick lynch came out, didn't he? the mask slipped . you said you the mask slipped. you said you weren't christmas with your strike action . but you are, strike action. but you are, aren't you ? you say you're not aren't you? you say you're not holding the country ransom. but look around the country . and look around the country. and what do you see? i'll tell . what do you see? i'll tell. people unable to get to work. small businesses suffering the cost of what i would call your

scott scargill in. spite intransigence. bars, pubs and restaurants. standing at what should be the busiest time of the year. the real life impact. people losing shifts, losing their tips . potentially losing their tips. potentially losing their tips. potentially losing their jobs. and their tips. potentially losing theirjobs. and businesses . their tips. potentially losing their jobs. and businesses . all their jobs. and businesses. all in the run up to christmas . and in the run up to christmas. and after all the cancellation over the past two years due to covid, people are now calling off christmas parties left, right and centre . parties often make and centre. parties often make your cancelling fun. if you ask me not fooling anyone. you want a general strike . you stop just a general strike. you stop just short of saying it out loud. you've also revealed a rather sharp temper , haven't you, mick? sharp temper, haven't you, mick? here you are taking a radio presenter to for asking you what was a simple question? question was a simple question? question was about the average amount of pay was about the average amount of pay lost by your members through strike action, which in the summer estimated it would contribute to hardship fund. thatis contribute to hardship fund. that is there an amount that in the summer it was estimated it as being an average amount ?

as being an average amount? because you've said pursuing this because because you've said it because you've said your members are making a sacrifice. and i've this stuff in the sun and the daily mail. what's wrong with the change? 0h, now you've changed your mind from the average. members have average. all members have x numbers of mick. you must keep that petulant temper of yours under control. don't let the mosque slip . so, mr. lynch , how mosque slip. so, mr. lynch, how much are your members losing because of the. it's reported that you're 84 k salary and total remuneration of over £120,000 a year. at the same time, rail revenues are down and you ask me you're pushing more and more away. you can no longer rely trains for that commute, can they . i know because i'm one can they. i know because i'm one of them. hospitality shift workers, small businesses suffering the cost of an unwillingness to settle. so this christmas , all the unions have christmas, all the unions have settled. why can't you? why not on the heartstrings? a little ? on the heartstrings? a little? think of the single mum who's just had her shift cancelled because the restaurant works at

has had all their christmas cancelled this year. she get paid. you call off the strikes and still negotiate . that would and still negotiate. that would keep the public onside . and it keep the public onside. and it would mean no staff get paid over christmas as well. the country has been through a terrible time . covid and war in terrible time. covid and war in eastern europe . we've seen eastern europe. we've seen massive inflation as a result. we poured billions into the railways . no one was travelling. railways. no one was travelling. dare i say it? but i think you're starting to look a little bit selfish now. you've got excellent deals in the past for your members. the packages they've received may come as a shock to people. was the average salary for many of your members well over salary for many of your members well ove and well over £50,000 a year and some over 100 k, you've been some on over 100 k, you've been 9% and more for the lowest paid . but we also know you're not really a mean one. deep down mr. lynch, don't be the lynch who stole christmas. just off the strikes. it would be nice thing to do . now we've got the gb news

to do. now we've got the gb news people's poll, which shows a plurality of the public still support striking work . let's support striking work. let's have a look. 44% of you say yes, you would support. the strikes while 29% oppose them and 14% say they neither support nor now for member rightly far more of you far more of the great public supported the strikes before the last few . it seems like the mood last few. it seems like the mood is shifting. members of the transport staffs association or tsc , a union at network rail, tsc, a union at network rail, have voted to accept a paid pay deal have voted to accept a paid pay deal, but a compromise yet to be reached with the rmt . meanwhile, reached with the rmt. meanwhile, nurses and ambulance workers are preparing for more industrial action next. so you may agree with what i had to say to mr. lynch. maybe you don't. maybe you think i'm being a little bit harsh and that he has every right stand up there deny right to stand up there and deny a at this time . let a settlement at this time. let me know what you think. of

course are open. please do course are open. and please do tweet at gb news. now we're going to kick things off with a punchy should unions punchy debate. should the unions have called a christmas trees? and health care workers and should health care workers be to strike all? let's be allowed to strike all? let's give their thoughts . my give their thoughts. my favourite trade unionist socialist party industrial 0rganiser and trade unionist rob williams . and in the studio with williams. and in the studio with me, director 0rthodox conservatives joseph robertson. i think we're going to have a little bit of a battle here. hopefully joseph. support for striking workers to still be quite high. is that even a case for christmas ? well not sure for christmas? well not sure that there is . we're talking that there is. we're talking about a nation is not necessarily happy with pay across the board . and what we're across the board. and what we're seeing is , what i'd say is a seeing is, what i'd say is a sense of entitlement. people who are earning well above the national average. sort of shutting down christmas for people . if you're going to people. if you're going to strike, do it at time when pressure can actually be taken off . don't do it at a pressure can actually be taken off. don't do it at a time when people are trying to get to families. when trying

families. when people trying to get places to do urgent get urgent places to do urgent things time when people are things at a time when people are trying to celebrate after two years misery and more and years of misery and more and don't want see disruption to don't want to see disruption to their , to their their livelihoods, to their lives in general . their livelihoods, to their lives in general. rob. you heard my monologue . i think mick lynch my monologue. i think mick lynch may have overplayed his hand here a bit. i think public support is dwindling, here a bit. i think public support is dwindling , that support is dwindling, that people are seeing the real life consequences of these strikes and people are looking into the salaries that rail workers have and thinking, actually, you know what may support the nurses, what, i may support the nurses, but i've enough mick lynch in but i've enough of mick lynch in his his gang . this is funny. his and his gang. this is funny. and it you know, the all propaganda and yet a majority still or a majority of people i think still still support the strike. even your poll is in favour of the strikes . and favour of the strikes. and that's because the cost living squeeze is cut geostrophic to working people. and that's why they still support the action being taken and manto. may i just interject . may i just

just interject. may i just interject there quickly . interject there quickly. wouldn't you agree that the collateral of this strike action is ordinary workers just workers who don't happen to work on the railways but does not make it even interesting that the majority the agenda. listen i mick lynch represent today's members fantastically well . this members fantastically well. this is a dispute that's lasted well over six months. they've just won every ballot. they just put the vote which is being complained about. they put it to a members vote and the members voted against the deal. a members vote and the members voted against the deal . the voted against the deal. the reason why the strikes are taking place is because the attacks of the employers is taking place now . no one wants taking place now. no one wants to take action. everyone of those rail workers to take action . nurses, postal workers , action. nurses, postal workers, they don't get paid. the reason they don't get paid. the reason they take action now is because they take action now is because the employers behind them and the employers behind them and the tories themselves are an employer of the public sector workers because they responsible for the pay squeeze and it is

affecting those workers , those affecting those workers, those nurses at a pay deal imposed on them, which alone means a 10% pay them, which alone means a 10% pay cut. what are they to do now, josie ? i mean, he makes now, josie? i mean, he makes a point there, of course. and it's something that you also said in your opening gambit, the idea that everyone is being squeezed and therefore a trade union. a trade union boss, well, it's his job to try and get the best deal that can . but it does seem to me that can. but it does seem to me that can. but it does seem to me that with that, he has denied that with that, he has denied that he's focusing christmas. he said, you know, christmas start till christmas eve . said, you know, christmas start till christmas eve. i'm said, you know, christmas start till christmas eve . i'm not till christmas eve. i'm not attacking christmas. i'm not i'm not using that as something for leverage . but let's look around leverage. but let's look around the country as said in my monologue, it is people's parties being cancelled and that has a massive impact on people's lives . let's look at the real lives. let's look at the real world implications of those actions. and it's not just about parties. it's not just even about jobs that you and i hold

or commuting. it's to do with the army here, we're looking at army being being put under serious amount of pressure. you you know, a wage force that earns at least three and a half k less on average than the rail workers . you know, very often workers. you know, very often having already been on a tour somewhere , probably not having somewhere, probably not having spent much time their families for the last couple of years now being forced by virtue of these strikes to go into and save christmas is not very work orientated, is it? if we're actually asking, you know , our actually asking, you know, our servicemen and women to bear the brunt of actions purely so we can try and guess a few extra k the pocket. i don't think that's that's a very good way to go about doing well. that's a very good point. i do feel for our military who seem to be first point of whenever there's point of call whenever there's an emergency or a crisis that's brought on by incidents as brought on by such incidents as these rob you said these strikes rob you said something very interesting you said that most no one wants to go on strike. well know that to be true, actually, because a

fifth of rmt members apparently refuse strike and refuse to go on strike and decided to go into work . do you decided to go into work. do you think there's a lot of think that there's a lot of pressure likes of mick pressure from the likes of mick lynch people when lynch for people to strike when actually prefer just take actually they prefer just take the that's on the table . the deal that's on the table. well all, i'm not sure well first of all, i'm not sure i believe those figures when it went to a vote , you know, two went to a vote, you know, two thirds of members voted on a massive 83% turnout. then we have a by—election the other day where barely 30% voted, we've got the most restrictive anti—union laws in this country. if they related to parliament, we would never come to elected and this country. if they had to do what trade unions have to do. but look on the issue of you why people are acting, you know, the pressures on army, etc. it's pressures on the army, etc. it's not the union is forcing the army to do anything. this is a tory that is not prepared to negotiate with the nurses. it the tory government that is behind the rail and the royal mail disputes. so when you talk

about the pressures this region is all of this, isn't it, to get from the table and negotiate was interesting is can i just make this point more and more now the tories themselves we love informative tory ministers come out and say you know that the tories should negotiate with the nurses that you know they can't being the pay i being the pay body that everyone knows is an independent whatsoever . so the independent whatsoever. so the tories have got a choice here andifs tories have got a choice here and it's only what is going to happenis and it's only what is going to happen is a working class people are going to unite together against the policies of this tory government. i was on a picket line morning of bus workers. i with rail workers yesterday and the day before nurses and postal workers as well . i tell nurses and postal workers as well. i tell you nurses and postal workers as well . i tell you what, if the well. i tell you what, if the tories maintain this position where they and their class are okay into this crisis , the okay into this crisis, the working class people be the pay , the price. and i tell you what , in the new year we are going to see massive strike action

against this government. and rob these pay off as is so unfair. and i'll come to you quickly , and i'll come to you quickly, joseph, to finish. but if these if these pay off, this is so unfair, why is the tsa and all the unions accepted those ? the the unions accepted those? the tsa saying except it members it when the tsa say overwhelmingly the train operating companies are out on strike today. do you do your viewers know, by the way, the boris johnson , this way, the boris johnson, this reflects the reality of class society in britain since . boris society in britain since. boris johnson stood down or was stood down, prime minister. isn't . down, prime minister. isn't. $1,000,000 on the after dinner on the free and on average $1,000,000 on the after dinner on the free and on average £4 million a year. that's the reality of class society in britain. and that's why workers support the are taking place just very quickly, joseph, what's the government needs to sort this out? well, for me, the government needs to tackle it head on. many offer negotiations . i'm not here to defend the government's. i'm here to say that the strikes are completely wrong. the reality is the

wrong. but the reality is the government does need to tackle this challenge head on. it needs to down a pedestal and to come down from a pedestal and actually engage proper actually engage in proper conversation they conversation about how they can save i think that save christmas. and i think that government can do itself a lot of good if it so. but of good if it does so. but i think it would do well to start looking at to how make tax cuts for a start and actually start working a better bottom line for all of us. well, that would go very very different well very to very different well views represented on views they're represented on real britain this afternoon. it's what we to see that it's what we like to see that socialist industrial socialist party industrial organises organiser trade . organises organiser and trade. what a mouthful rob williams and the director of 0rthodox conservative joseph roberts. and here studio me thank you here in the studio me thank you very for time now. plenty very much for time now. plenty more to this afternoon on more to come this afternoon on real the bank of real britain. the bank of england raised interest rates once again to their highest level for 14 years. i'll find out . these level for 14 years. i'll find out. these hikes are having the effect yet. but first, let's have a look at the weather a bit cold outside . now. looking ahead . lo

cold outside. now. looking ahead. lo evening's weather and the uk will be cold and frosty with a few wintry showers in the north. let's take a look at the details . skies will be clear this evening across. southwest england where it'll turn and frosty once again. ice may also form over the high ground . form over the high ground. temperatures will also plummet across the south—east of england with frosty night. it'll stay , with frosty night. it'll stay, but there could be a few mist and fog patches this evening. south wales will be dry and cold this evening with clear skies . this evening with clear skies. however, showers will continue in the north, mostly falling as a mixture , rain and sleet. a a mixture, rain and sleet. a dry, cold and frosty across the midlands this evening as temperatures fall widely . temperatures fall widely. freezing, freezing. any in the north will gradually move northern england, leaving some icy patches behind. skies will be cloudy across northern england this evening with a rain and sleet. showers around manchester drier , towards manchester drier, towards newcastle and quickly frosty again. temperatures tumble

across scotland this evening to bnng across scotland this evening to bring another frosty night. we could see lows of —12 celsius over any snowy ground. it'll stay dry in northern ireland this evening, but mist, stay dry in northern ireland this evening, but mist , fog this evening, but mist, fog patches will spread quickly dark. now most parts of the uk will stay very cold tonight with a widespread frost but milder air will start to arrive in the southwest towards that dawn . southwest towards that dawn. that's how the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning .

now i've had mixed reviews. my monologue, which i kicked off the show with, which was a letter to mick lynch, who i call mr. grinch . someone said, mr. grinch. someone said, grinning like a loon doesn't make you funny. grinning like a loon doesn't make you funny . also, that clip make you funny. also, that clip of lynch was hardly that of a raving demagogue. yes be fair.

there are probably worse clips out there, but i thought it did show his perhaps misogyny with his accusations that this radio presenter on the bbc, however , presenter on the bbc, however, someone else has said, great break down today by emily carver on mic. the grinch lynch thank you very much. i haven't got your name here, but i appreciate the support in these trying times anyway. emily carver you're watching britain . gb you're watching real britain. gb news online on your news on tv online on your digital radio. so let's dig into the economics . what's happening the economics. what's happening in this economy . this week, the in this economy. this week, the bank of england introduced its ninth consecutive interest rate rise , hiking the base rate to rise, hiking the base rate to 3.5. 0fficials at the bank made the decision in a bid to control spiralling inflation which fell to 10.7% this week. good news perhaps that drop has led experts to believe inflation has peaked and will continue to fall next year. but chancellor jeremy , always the optimist, struck a more cautious tone warning inflation remains the country's number one enemy. so exactly are we on all this to break this all

down? i'm joined by the co—founder investment service regionally , justin urquhart regionally, justin urquhart stewart . did i pronounce that stewart. did i pronounce that right? you did indeed. thank you. excellent. now, justin, interest rates going up again . interest rates going up again. yep. are we starting to see the benefit of this? because it's quite painful for people with mortgages. extremely mortgages. it's extremely painful . a mortgages. it's extremely painful. a combination of painful. and a combination of issues, not just in terms of interest but also other interest rates, but also other expenses, the power expenses expenses, all the power expenses and it's a very, very and like that. it's a very, very painful time adding a few strikes that as it makes strikes that as well. it makes it a pretty time for many it really a pretty time for many , particularly with weather like this, as well. so actually what you have seeing is the action being the states and here being taken. the states and here to inflation , which is to address inflation, which is the most the biggest danger we're facing the moment, we're facing at the moment, because we haven't really seen double digit inflation in all horrors since the 1970s. when you saw it at one point at 25. and i remember seeing my father, his fixed pension, you suddenly find, you know, 25% inflation, just money disappear , just being just money disappear, just being destroyed. and you can't get it back. so you need to get done. inflation is going to down. you

look at the futures for market next we can already see it next year. we can already see it happening. news. so it happening. that's news. so it may mean that interest may well mean that interest rates may well have in the states and start coming down again. but one of the problems been interest have so been interest rates have been so low long because, the low for so long because, the banking that you just banking crisis that you just them the emergency level up them off the emergency level up to a reasonable level. so when we do see a slowdown, you can cut rates again. the problem is, if you can't nought. yes that's one of the issues. i mean, tried to edge up and doesn't to edge them up and doesn't consider for being. but consider for the time being. but there some light on down and there is some light on down and so it will be that actually inflation starts coming again. then needing actually then we start needing actually see proper confidence see some proper confidence coming back in from business to start investing again because at the moment that vital word confidence has disappeared . confidence has disappeared. well, there's a lot to get stuck into . 0ne well, there's a lot to get stuck into . one thing i would like to into. one thing i would like to ask, because i get a little bit confused about this, and i'm sure people at do as well. is there a chance raising interest rates? although it's important in terms of keeping inflation down, recessionary?

down, could it be recessionary? no, problem where you no, that's the problem where you are to avoid we had are trying to just avoid we had the the mini budget the problem, the mini budget that disastrously wrong. that went so disastrously wrong. yes. that actually we're going to economy and get to grow the economy and get it all going. therefore all going. so therefore encourage which actually will be inflationary. meanwhile, the bank dynamite bank of england doing dynamite the they wonder why the opposite and they wonder why people thought was a rather people thought this was a rather odd ifs odd budget tricky act. it's really really did which which is the evil one. it is both will be dangerous and the answer is you have to be very careful you balance it. the global economy is still growing. good is still growing. that's good news. economy is flatlining. news. our economy is flatlining. might be slightly in recession. don't get caught up over the sort tiny figures. sort of the tiny figures. 0verall, low and slow 0verall, it's to be low and slow for time being. but what you for the time being. but what you will start seeing next year, though you'll see though i think you'll see inflation inflation to inflation. inflation starting to come interest ease off a come down. interest ease off a bit. and that's when you need the government. not much the government. not so much should money it should be spending money it hasn't any but actually hasn't got any but actually making are right making sure there are the right incentives be incentives so people to be investing. let me just individuals but companies and also investors coming also external investors coming into britain to invest those areas economy which are positive new technology. now this may

sound like a of a silly question, but i have a little account and why is it stuck at about 2? 0h, because find the wonderful interest rates when the cost of them and they're going up now they go up like an hour and come down like a feather and say, well, fine. actually will it ever get up to 3.5% on my savings ? unlikely. 3.5% on my savings? unlikely. and is what will get on my and it is what will get on my mortgage if i get a mortgage you will be charged as mortgages. there you will now actually find a position where mortgages and that's for most that's the biggest pain for most of british middle with of the british middle class with mortgages it's mortgages at the moment. it's not matter of just going not just a matter of just going up a little bit. it's going very poorly. and of course, this whole of been whole generation of people been encouraged out encouraged to take out mortgages, property wrong mortgages, to buy property wrong with used to idea with that are used to the idea how much costs. not going how much it costs. not going up by more double and that's by more than double and that's when economy. yes, when you're economy. yes, i think people are a little bit callous when they're talking about about to about this about the need to raise interest when they raise interest rates when they say, you know, you say, oh, well, you know, you should interest should have known that interest rates and down. well rates can go up and down. well yes. knows theory yes. everyone knows in theory they can. but when they haven't

been going for, what, been going up for, what, 14 years it does come as years or or so, it does come as a bit of a bit of a shock. now, what are the chances of us getting back to 2% inflation, that's that the bank that's the target that the bank of wants and answer of england wants and answer is we get something we probably will get something close because you look at close to it because you look at the month by month, the new figures in and they figures come in and they roll off every for four months. off every day for four months. so year we some big months so last year we some big months particularly power particularly down to power pnces particularly down to power prices commodity prices prices and commodity prices going this going up dramatically over this year 12 month will year that 12 month figure will drop you'll drop off again and you'll suddenly see much lower. so suddenly see it's much lower. so yes, coming. whether yes, it will be coming. whether it 2% immediately. i'm it gets to 2% immediately. i'm not too sure on that one. so we've got a little to wait, but things may a bit brighter. things may be a bit brighter. thank much joining thank you very much for joining us studio. that was us in the studio. that was justin urquhart of justin urquhart stewart of regionally. much regionally. thank very much for your time this now you're with gb news on and dab radio after the the duke of sussex the break. the duke of sussex described terrifying described how terrifying a scene, quote, it was to have his brother, the prince of wales, shout and scream him at the sandringham summit front the sandringham summit in front the queen. we'll discuss that with royal michael cole royal commentator michael cole and get view on that apology and get his view on that apology over ngozi race row. now

over ngozi fulani race row. now it's time to check on the news headunes. it's time to check on the news headlines . 232. let's get headlines. 232. let's get latest. nhs bosses are urging hospitals to free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by ambulance crews in england. they say it's vital the government and unions talk urgently to resolve pay dispute before the first day of action on the 21st of this month. it comes after nhs data showed one in six patients are now waiting more than an hour to be transferred from ambulances to a&e . the from ambulances to a&e. the union is warning that the health macho negotiate eating style is hindering efforts resolve their pay hindering efforts resolve their pay dispute. rcn general secretary pat cullen says steve barclay undervalues the work of nurses because it's a% female profession . she's urging the pm profession. she's urging the pm to step before the dispute engulfs . the nhs , a woman who engulfs. the nhs, a woman who

was critically injured in a crowd crush at the 02 academy, brixton has now died. the met has named her as 33 year old rebecca khumalo of newham. two other women aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical condition . remain in a critical condition. more than a quarter of people expect to start the new year in debt , expect to start the new year in debt, according to research by tesco bank. most believe it will take around one months to pay back what they those surveyed say they , borrowed money from say they, borrowed money from family and friends and used overdrafts to cover energy bills and rent . the overdrafts to cover energy bills and rent. the duke and duchess of sussex will be invited to the king's coronation in may next yean king's coronation in may next year, according to the telegraph. that's despite harry and meghan making damaging claims levelled at the royal family in their netflix series. the newspaper the guest list is yet to be decided, but all family members welcome . we're on family members welcome. we're on tv online and on dab plus radio. you're watching gb news. don't

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welcome back. i'm emily carver. you're watching on gb news on tv, online and on your digital radio. now the duke and duchess of sussex or montecito have turned up the heat in this seemingly never ending war with . the rest of the royal family, as they got touch personal in part two of their netflix docu series, accusing prince william of shouting and screaming at prince harry. i mean , many times prince harry. i mean, many times have i shouted and screamed at my siblings. i mean, i couldn't count definitely. count on two hands. definitely. but prince harry was very upset. and king charles was accused of lying from netflix. we've lying away from netflix. we've had susan hussey, the late queen's in waiting meat to queen's lady in waiting meat to apologise fulani after apologise to ngozi fulani after accusations of racism. well she right to say sorry and what does

all mean for king charles? 0nly all mean for king charles? only 100 days into the job. now to give us his take, i'm joined by royal commentator michael cole. michael, good afternoon, thank you for joining michael, good afternoon, thank you forjoining us. now, michael, good afternoon, thank you for joining us. now, you've been very busy putting all sorts on the royals over recent weeks. what's your general take on this netflix documentary ? i mean, netflix documentary? i mean, everyone has seen the clips if they haven't watched the whole thing. but it was. well, what can i say? it was rather rude. i found a yes indeed. it shall we say a little eastenders. behave exactly what you might expect from princes. but as you so rightly say in families things can become heated and this family feud is being played out pubuc family feud is being played out public now. of course, prince harry, this happened. his brother shout it at him. of course, i believe absolutely that prince harry is telling the truth. this all happened before they.

truth. this all happened before they . went to canada. that was they. went to canada. that was they. went to canada. that was the sandringham summit. and prince harry made it clear to other members of his family that he and meghan will now go to hightail it to canada with. their newly born son, prince archie , that upset prince archie, that upset prince william. it seems , would speak william. it seems, would speak of brotherly love, wouldn't it? and i, as we're on that subject of brothers i mean , the person of brothers i mean, the person who i know would be so, so upset to see all this is mother the late and much missed dear diana princess of wales. she was felt her would be there for each other covering each other's backs but , not at other covering each other's backs but, not at daggers drawn as they are. well, it's very interesting . sorry to interrupt interesting. sorry to interrupt you, michael. that's very interesting you say that because it's not very subtle in the docu series it that they're trying to compare meghan's experience with that of the late princess diana . so you think that actually

that's a load of nonsense and that's a load of nonsense and that she would be hurt by what's going on not proud of them for doing what they've done terribly hard and this is all absurd these over claims . for instance these over claims. for instance when prince harry is on his private jet he refers to it at his flight for freedom press freedom flights . if he was on freedom flights. if he was on the last helicopter out of saigon in 1975, he was heading british columbia. 0ne saigon in 1975, he was heading british columbia. one of the most beautiful places on, earth to a private with a lovely view of the pacific ocean. mean my goodness, what are these people worrying about ? want to worrying about? want to timezones over from where you're sitting now? a terrible, terrible war going on. people are being bombed . people are are being bombed. people are being women being raped. children don't where they're going to look for their next meal. there's no power that's real . and there are enough real. and there are enough problems . real. and there are enough problems. this country, for goodness sake , without worrying goodness sake, without worrying about these . essentially, it's

about these. essentially, it's trivia but it's blown up into a six part each hour long episode. and it's long loop. it's one long complaint. it's we're right there. wrong we are wonderful. and they're horrid and i would say that i had i must say that i'm not cold hearted. i did feel a little bit of sympathy when it came to particularly the press intrusion. i mean i can't what thatis intrusion. i mean i can't what that is like and it must be quite harmful for your mental health i can certainly see but the rest of it was just a narcissist stick royal sob story essentially just for the money. i mean we know they were paid huge sums for this. now i want to ask you about that apology that we've just seen. lady hussey had a public apology. well, she met with ngozi fulani who of course, was the charity rep of that domestic violence charity. now i'm going to say

something very un—pc. i think the apology should have been the other way around. what do you think? well that is a point of view. and i you're readily entitled it. i knew susan hussey when i was royal reporter on the road . i met her around the road. i met her around the world. her around the world was on good terms with her. she was always polite , charming and always polite, charming and very, very kind . everybody. and very, very kind. everybody. and i think someone would say that's because you were a white man while . don't think that's true. while. don't think that's true. i saw in all sorts of societies i saw in all sorts of societies i mean the queen was visiting her overseas realms, was interacting with everybody and getting on well with them and smoothing the path of the monarchy and absolute lady in waiting . and this apology is in waiting. and this apology is in tune with her. it's in tune with her decent say and her sense of duty wants to put as much distance between the royal family and this toxic charge of racism . it's an easy charge to racism. it's an easy charge to make . it's an awful allegation make. it's an awful allegation to make . but it's very, very

to make. but it's very, very difficult to refute because it's hard to prove another step. but lady susan has done the decent and mrs. forlani appears to have accepted the apology. i'm perhaps we can draw a line that but it is very, very regrettable because . she's 83 now. she's because. she's 83 now. she's a widow and this was a shadow the remainder of her life, which i don't was deserved because dunng don't was deserved because during those 63 years she served her majesty the queen was an honorary position . that means honorary position. that means she wasn't paid a penny. and i think she's served the crown the queen in particular, a brilliant night . so a nasty little episode night. so a nasty little episode and perhaps has been tucked away as tidily as possible . and what as tidily as possible. and what does this mean just to just finish? finish that, michael. what this mean for king charles, he hasn't been in the job for very long. would he have been

involved in apology in one way or another. would he have potentially encouraged to be made and also just on king charles as well, is a royal family cull on the cards in terms of plenty of demotions when it comes to making that royal family smaller. yes well, i think the king would have been fully informed . but lady susan fully informed. but lady susan says , that she volunteered. she says, that she volunteered. she wasn't pushed in other words, she jumped rather than pushed. and i think we can we leave it at that . i think it's100 days at that. i think it's100 days now . the new reign of at that. i think it's100 days now. the new reign of king charles. i think he's done very well. he hasn't made any mistake . my goodness. he's had enough problems. first of all, we had ten parts of the crown and now we've had six parts of this meghan and harry show a glossy, gleaming thing showing them in the best light as they spread their word. most of it and

negative about the family from which he is sprung . so i think which he is sprung. so i think he's made a good start. another clever move today , of course, to clever move today, of course, to make it clear that as a member of the family , the duke and of the family, the duke and duchess of sussex be welcome at the coronation because if the if the coronation because if the if the invitation had been withheld, people would have said and it would take them 10 seconds to say it, oh, they're being snubbed, being cut out, they're being banned . well, they're being banned. well, that's not the case. it's up to the duke and duchess of sussex on their hilltop fortress in montecito , california , to decide montecito, california, to decide whether to come or not. that, of course, is a decision for. whether to come or not. that, of course, is a decision for . them course, is a decision for. them it depends to be it will remain to be seen. what how they'll be treated here and the british people are far too polite to their disapproval by bullying. but might get the silent treatment . and there is one very

treatment. and there is one very important constitutional and also religious element to this because the coronation all the present do kneel down and given oath of fealty to the new monarch. i king charles. the third and the terminology of that sacred oath after the king has been anointed and crown is very specific . michael, i'm very specific. michael, i'm going to have to you very, very quickly, because have to move on, because i'm really interested what you have to say. so can you wrap it up very quickly? very, very interesting times ahead. the coronation on may the sixth, but we'll be speaking before then, emily. yes please. thank you very much. i love talking you. that was, of course, royal commentator michael cole. thank you very much for your time. i do think it's all little bit sad. it's just all a little bit sad. they have created little they have created a little fortress themselves and, fortress around themselves and, you their family. fortress around themselves and, you their family . family you know, their family. family is what matters anyway , was the is what matters anyway, was the royal commentator michael cole.

now going to be moving on, now we're going to be moving on, i believe, to the weather . yes. i believe, to the weather. yes. the office has issued a the met office has issued a yellow weather warning snow yellow weather warning with snow and expected to the and ice expected to blanket the uk weekend southwest of uk this weekend southwest of england. reporter geoff moody has been out on the with a snow warden in devon and he sent us this report . loki it's always this report. loki it's always a great moment when we first see snow the snowman to build snowball to throw, but we've seen it now. time to move on here in north devon we've only had an inch or two of snow. but the trouble is it's not going. the sun is too this time of year to melt it. and during the evenings and at night it gets icy and icy . and this snow has icy and icy. and this snow has here a week. it's not going fast. and the met say it's wrong type of snow . 0ften fast. and the met say it's wrong type of snow . often when we get type of snow. often when we get snow it's do with mild or the atlantic it's what we call

transient snow. so it snows heavily, but then it clears away or it doesn't certainly last too long. but because we've in the cold air, it's not going to shift. temperatures have been struggling above freezing shift. temperatures have been stridaying above freezing shift. temperatures have been striday and above freezing shift. temperatures have been striday and well above freezing shift. temperatures have been striday and well below freezing shift. temperatures have been striday and well below ataezing shift. temperatures have been striday and well below at night. by day and well below at night. so it sticks around it, may melt a little bit through the day and then that just makes things really really really icy and really treacherous. has been an treacherous. so it has been an unusually of unusually long cold spell of weather. it the weather. they're calling it the fall trondheim and it's got a fall of trondheim and it's got a sting in its tail. fall of trondheim and it's got a sting in its tail . dozens of sting in its tail. dozens of flights out of glasgow have been cancelled or delayed . similar cancelled or delayed. similar scenes at other airports . scenes at other airports. passengers stranded long waits on the tarmac in parts of scotland have been without power for nearly a week and train services have been cancelled or delayed , piling more misery onto delayed, piling more misery onto commuter already battling against strikes last in a single day, the rac responded to eight call outs a minute monday the busiest day ever 12,000 call outs as motorists struggle to get a grip. it's not so much the

main roads it's , the b—roads, main roads it's, the b—roads, the small lanes , the winding the small lanes, the winding hills and valleys , the driveways hills and valleys, the driveways . that's what's causing the problem . and it's that that's problem. and it's that that's causing thousands of people to trapped in their own homes. again bill gane is a parish councillor in north molton, devon . he's the council's devon. he's the council's designated warden. the council , designated warden. the council, the main roads , smaller routes the main roads, smaller routes are left to the community we're are left to the community we're a close community and we do what we can to help ourselves. would like the county council to do more on some of the main roads and use routes. but we're going to lobby for but we do what we can . this weekend the met office can. this weekend the met office says brace yourselves for more . says brace yourselves for more. it'll get worse before it gets better the advice for drivers stay at home this weekend till the rain comes next week. the snow should melt just in time for more strikes , geoff moody gb

for more strikes, geoff moody gb news news . now for more strikes, geoff moody gb news news. now a for more strikes, geoff moody gb news news . now a lot of you have news news. now a lot of you have been getting in touch today about today's topics on brian says i simply believe your poll findings that so many people still support the strikes . i still support the strikes. i work in a factory and i guarantee you no one agrees with these strikes none of my friends agree with them. the working class all want better pay and conditions, stopping conditions, but stopping us getting pay getting to work and losing pay is the way to do it. the only people the unions are hurting is the working man. well, that's the working man. well, that's the reality. it is rather pitting one group workers pitting one group of workers against other. many people pitting one group of workers ag'rely other. many people pitting one group of workers ag'rely on other. many people pitting one group of workers ag'rely on the 1er . many people pitting one group of workers ag'rely on the trains,any people pitting one group of workers ag'rely on the trains, of' people pitting one group of workers ag'rely on the trains, of course; do rely on the trains, of course . get work. alan says, will . get to work. alan says, will businesses who have to cancel christmas events and struggle to pay christmas events and struggle to pay staff due to the travel strikes be able to claim the money back from the unions. well, that's right. unions well, that's right. the unions do hardship to those do pay hardship funds to those who work because of strike who miss work because of strike action. hardship action. should they pay hardship funds ? those who use the funds? those who can't use the trains . well, that would be a trains. well, that would be a certain way for to become certain way for them to become bankrupt. tony given the reduction rail usage, is

reduction in rail usage, is there any danger of any of the rail operators going into bankruptcy? well, there may well be rail revenues. well, ticket are still very much down on where they were pre—pandemic. and it's those is those crucial commuter routes that people aren't paying for anymore. it seems that people have given up a little bit or they're only using trains three days a week. and so on. i can definitely vouch for that. being outside london we're moving on london now we're to be moving on to strange story, but to a rather strange story, but one that seems to reoccur a lot in country. it's been in this country. it's been reported that yorkshire reported that west yorkshire police turning potential police is turning potential recruits because they don't happen to be women or ethnic minorities. the reports after a white man applied for a job. how did he at the force was told his application not be processed as he didn't belong a minority group and it would be held until recruiting and opened to everyone. the mayor of west yorkshire, tracy brabin, has defended the police's recruitment process, saying trust was built by represent and

she would not apologise . trying she would not apologise. trying to get a police force that the people it serves to give his thoughts on this . you know thoughts on this. you know i said before that rob williams was my favourite trade unionist, but actually think it's paul embery who is a firefighter and trade unionist. thank you very much, paul. what do you make of this? it does seem to me that there a lot jobs now, there are a lot jobs now, particularly public particularly in the public sector, where can be sector, where you can be discriminated because discriminated against because you're . yeah it's you're a white man. yeah it's simply wrong. i mean, i always check these stories when i see the headline just to make sure that the media hasn't exaggerated them and it does seem in this case that the story is genuine. now i start from the point of view of saying, look, there should never a barrier to anybody their background from entering into the public services, whether it's the police force or anything else. but it seems to that what this what this move does is creates a kind of reverse racism. and for me, i don't really see why that is any more acceptable in society than any other form of

racism. and i think this ultimately shows where an obsession with think politics ends up. i think in the interests of fighting , overcome interests of fighting, overcome prejudice is, you know, very laudable virtue aside. and we've gone down this road where we are obsessing about things like race and actually in doing so, in enacting policies like this, our pubuc enacting policies like this, our public services are just creating a separateness and difference between people and it just breeds . so i think west just breeds. so i think west yorkshire police have got it completely wrong . stories like completely wrong. stories like this usually people ask, how is this usually people ask, how is this allowed ? how is it allowed this allowed? how is it allowed that ? you can prioritise one that? you can prioritise one ethnic group over another when comes to hiring. this down to the equalities act, is it not the equalities act, is it not the 2010 legislation . well, the 2010 legislation. well, pubuc the 2010 legislation. well, public said i mean as to whether or not it's this type of thing is illegal. i'm not lawyer of course i suspect not instruments like the equality act do give pubuc like the equality act do give public services and other employers the right to attract

people from minority backgrounds and to fire those certain applicants certain situations. as far as as far as i understand. but let's, you know, it's one thing, say, in that there are people, groups , there are people, groups, society who are on the represented in our public services and other spheres of our public . and we want to our public. and we want to overcome that fine. i think most decent people can agree on that. but to say people who might form part of the majority like this white person who applied for a role within yorkshire police that actually you can't come in at the moment because the wrong colour seems me to be just as bad. and then there are some people say, no, it's not just as bad because you know, we've got to be full on in terms of recruiting people from minority backgrounds types backgrounds and therefore types of people. the guy who applied for role should be prepared for this role should be prepared to hit. i don't think to take the hit. i don't think that's a convincing argument. actually walk of actually i think in any walk of life, discriminated life, if you are discriminated against colour of against because of the colour of your skin as this guy was, we should stand against it and say

it's also, what's it's wrong. also, what's interesting, this this interesting, i'm sure this this with you is that we're so constantly weighted on ethnic groups or gender we forget class perhaps . and should we be perhaps. and should we be focusing more different social socio economic groups , making it socio economic groups, making it into jobs, not necessarily this one, but in general? into jobs, not necessarily this one, but in general ? well, one, but in general? well, absolutely . i one, but in general? well, absolutely. i always one, but in general? well, absolutely . i always argue that absolutely. i always argue that the two diversity is that our elites are usually obsessed diversity. the two diversities i don't care about diversity of thought and diversity of class we see in social mobility in our country going , we see fewer and country going, we see fewer and fewer people from working class backgrounds and into the upper echelons of . 0ur public life and echelons of. our public life and industry and the and the media and so on. nobody's to bother about that because they're so obsessed with other forms of diversity or as i describe it, hyper diversity . that's the hyper diversity. that's the agenda for a lot of people . so agenda for a lot of people. so it's true. we need it's absolutely true. we need to concentrate other diversity. concentrate on other diversity. diversity thought, diversity of class, those are some of the barriers we should be looking to

overcome. you much. overcome. thank you very much. that over by that was pulled over by a regular on gb news firefighter and trade . thank you very much and trade. thank you very much for your time . does seem quite for your time. does seem quite extraordinary you're a extraordinary that if you're a white man, you can actually be now against when it comes to i'm sure you've got experiences of that too. so please do let me know now i have to give know if do now i have to give the from yorkshire the response from yorkshire police. said we are police. they've said we are committed improving equality committed to improving equality , diversity inclusion within , diversity and inclusion within organisation. the force remains that we have underrepresented groups who are currently people from , ethnic minority from, ethnic minority backgrounds and females. from, ethnic minority backgrounds and females . we do from, ethnic minority use positive action allowed under the equality act 2010. there you go. that's the legal justification for targeted advertise for pc recruitment to groups from these underrepresented groups . to be underrepresented groups. to be clear though, this does not apply in the selection interview process for available west yorkshire police always employ the best person for the job who gives the best interview on the day or performs the best in an assessment regardless of how they them describe themselves

on.the they them describe themselves on. the application form. there is no advantage because it goes on. there is no advantage or preference on the basis ethnicity gender. but there ethnicity or gender. but there a focus helping people be the focus on helping people be the best be to change the best they can be to change the make workforce. make up of our workforce. i don't know about you, but that sounded ever so slightly contradicts. sheree. let contradicts. sheree. anyway, let me you're me know what you think you're watching britain do watching real britain please do keep coming in, as always. keep your coming in, as always. do you think it's now a disadvantage to white in disadvantage to a white man in some areas? do you? lady some areas? and do you? lady susan right . susan hussey was right. apologise to fulani that apologise to ngozi fulani that rather awkward interaction at the palace. let me know in the meantime, let's get your latest weather forecast. i've heard it might t weather before might be t shirt weather before long. looking ahead to this evening's and the uk will be cold and frosty with a few wintry showers in the north. let's take a look at the details . skies will be clear this evening across england where it'll turn chilean frosty once again, ice also form over the high ground temperatures will also plummet across the south—east of england with another frosty night it'll stay dry but that could a few mist

and fog patches this evening south wales will be dry and cold this evening with clear skies however shall hours will continue in the north mostly as a mixture of rain and sleet. a dry, cold and frosty picture across the midlands this evening as temperatures fall widely below friday freezing. any showers in the norfolk gradually move into northern england , move into northern england, leaving some icy patches behind . the skies will be cloudy northern england this evening with a few rain and sleet showers around manchester, drier towards newcastle and quickly turning frosty. again, temperatures will across scotland this evening bring another frosty night. we could see lows of —12 cells. yes, over any snowy ground. it'll stay dry in northern ireland this evening . mist and fog patches will spread quickly after dark . now spread quickly after dark. now most parts of the uk will stay very cold again tonight . a very cold again tonight. a widespread frost that , milder widespread frost that, milder air will start to arrive in the southwest towards that dawn .

southwest towards that dawn. that's how the weather is shaping up overnight tomorrow morning .

welcome back. this is real britain with emily carver on your tv radio and online. now, coming up , 70 backbench your tv radio and online. now, coming up, 70 backbench tory mps or close to it have backed a bill that would push through the deportation of asylum seekers to rwanda and. ignore rulings from the european of human rights . the european of human rights. also, universities have been warned by the office for students that the independ regulator of higher education in to stop using a laws to restrict free speech and angry constituents to berate their local mp taking maternity leave? 0r local mp taking maternity leave? or is that sexism? i'll be debating with feminist and new

mother rebecca reid . but first, mother rebecca reid. but first, let's get you up to date with the latest news headlines . good the latest news headlines. good afternoon. 3:03. let's get the latest nhs bosses are urging hospitals to free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by ambulance crews in england . they ambulance crews in england. they say it's vital that the government and unions talk urgently resolve the pay dispute before . the first day of action before. the first day of action on the 21st of december comes after nhs data showed that one in six patients are now waiting. more than an hour to be transferred from ambulances to a&e . former cabinet minister dr. a&e. former cabinet minister dr. liam fox, who worked as a gp , liam fox, who worked as a gp, told gb news they need to overhaul how long patients remain in critical care . and one remain in critical care. and one of our problems is that we have so many people occupying acute bedsin so many people occupying acute beds in acute hospitals are very expensive, very intensive for staff and they really don't need to be . we need, in my view, to

to be. we need, in my view, to go back to our concept of convalescent hospitals. and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting appropriate care because if you've got occupying those acute beds , don't need to be there. it beds, don't need to be there. it doesn't matter how much money you pour into the system you're not to get the output. not going to get the output. that's that . the nurses that's for that. the nurses union warning that the health secretary's macho negotiating style is hindering efforts to resolve their pay . i'll see it resolve their pay. i'll see it in general , resolve their pay. i'll see it in general, pat cullen, resolve their pay. i'll see it in general , pat cullen, says in general, pat cullen, says steve undervalues the work of nurses because it's a 90% female profession . she's urging the profession. she's urging the prime minister to step in before the dispute engulfs nhs. the union has asking for a 19% pay rise, but says they would consider any new offer. meanwhile, a second walkout is planned for tuesday . the say planned for tuesday. the say with strikes and travellers are facing more delays on the railway as members of the rmt union walked out on day two of their 48 hour strike. trains are

starting than usual the finishing earlier. starting than usual the finishing earlier . some parts of finishing earlier. some parts of the country having no service at all. bus drivers in london are also continuing their eight hour strike, which is adding to travel disruption. former conservative adviser claire pearsall told there's no in sight as . we've seen all too sight as. we've seen all too regularly whenever there are negotiations with the rail unions . it never comes out in a unions. it never comes out in a good way. whatever is offered by, the government is sneered at, says derisory and isn't going to hit the mark. so you do wonder what is the number that mick lynch has in mind? what would accepts and what the country can afford ? but it is country can afford? but it is quite clear that something needs to happen because the country is pretty much now ground to a halt . a woman who was critically in a crowd crush at the academy brixton , now died. the met brixton, now died. the met police has named her as 33 year old rebecca khumalo of newham specialist 0fficers

old rebecca khumalo of newham specialist officers are continuing to provide support to her family. two other women, aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical. thousands of homes are without water in north london after a mains pipe burst causing multiple to be flooded. london fire brigade was called to properties and thames last night after water reaching half a metre high affected. more than 100 homes. thames water . some 100 homes. thames water. some homes remain without running water as they continue to assess the damage . finney gael leader the damage. finney gael leader leo varadkar has become irish tea for the second time. he's replacing finn a foil leader micheal martin, as of the rotating tea shock agreement with within ireland's coalition government. mr. varadkar previously held the office . from previously held the office. from 2017 to 2020. police say man and a woman arrested after two young boys were found dead in. east london were known to the children. emergency services

recalled to cornwallis road in yesterday, where they the boys aged two and five. both were deceased. the man woman were arrested separately in nearby locations and remain in custody . the met office has issued yellow weather warnings and is expecting from much of scotland. the north and south. west and wales today. it comes as blizzards are set to sweep across the north of the country this weekend. temperatures could temporarily rise on sunday. however, frost is expected create difficult road conditions . yo create difficult road conditions. yo bnng create difficult road conditions. yo bring you more . it happens now. bring you more. it happens now. let's get back to with . let's get back to with. emily welcome back to real britain with me, emily carver. so here's what's coming on the show this houn what's coming on the show this hour. it turns out almost 70

tory mps, including priti , tory mps, including priti, backed a bill that would have forced rishi sunak to ignore rulings from . the european court rulings from. the european court of human rights over the deportation of asylum seekers to rwanda. the bill put forward by jonathan gunness was rejected . jonathan gunness was rejected. it would have changed the law to explicit simply ignore the call for meddling on this specific matter. is it game over for the rwanda? plan will be debating that then . the chief executive that then. the chief executive of the office for students, susan longworth , says susan longworth, says universities must stop using a quantity laws as an excuse to , quantity laws as an excuse to, restrict free speech. she says that too often universities curtail free speech by leaning more fully into the equality dufies more fully into the equality duties than the law supports. i'll speaking to the free speech union's toby young that and later on a conservative mp has revealed she's received dozens of phone calls from angry constituents berating her for taking time off after the birth of her child. she says she's working, attending events and voting by while caring for her baby home. but as an mp , she be baby home. but as an mp, she be able to take the normal 52

weeks, leave . what should we be weeks, leave. what should we be saying about that now? that's what we're talking about for the next hour. i'd love to know your thoughts. please do tweet me at gb news or you can email me on gbv at gb news dot uk. remember, you watch us online too on you can watch us online too on youtube i'll be youtube. stay tuned. i'll be back tick . now 69 back in a tick. now 69 conservative mp is back to bill this week. that would have forced rishi sunak to ignore rulings by the r on the deportation of migrants to rwanda. the asylum seekers bill, which was introduced by conservative mp jonathan goddess and backed by several senior tories , including priti patel tories, including priti patel and simon , was ultimately and simon, was ultimately defeated in the house of commons. however sizeable rebellion against the prime minister demonstrates an ever present frustration amongst some backbench conservatives and the government seeming on an inability to get a grip on migrant crisis. to give thoughts this story, i am joined by the political of the sunday mirror

and people. nigel nelson and executive editor of , the critic executive editor of, the critic sebastian melber . nigel, this is sebastian melber. nigel, this is a it's quite significant that this bill was voted down. you would have thought with the ever growing seems crossing the channel that more m.p.s would want something to be done and would be willing to back such a bill. well, apart from the fact that most mp is quite sensibly don't want to vote for breaking international law now we'll find out this coming week whether or not rwanda plan does actually break break international law because the high court will their verdict on whether it's legal and whether rwanda go ahead. but i don't think it's a good place for britain to for its parliament be voting on measures that would ignore . the measures that would ignore. the european court of human rights orindeed european court of human rights or indeed the refugee convention

. but nigel, one might say that, you know, we're stuck in this situation where we don't seem to have control of our borders. the british public were promised that after all. is it time then , perhaps, that politicians sat around and thought, well, you know, if we can't have national sovereignty, parliamentary because of the european court of , human rights, we just , human rights, should we just leave ? well, the answer is do leave it? well, the answer is do something about it. and the biggest problem it comes down to, to cross—channel migrants is they've got to be in order to make an asylum claim. if we a system whereby there were safe and legal routes abroad where they could apply for asylum , they could apply for asylum, then they wouldn't needs across then they wouldn't needs across the channel to get here . so what the channel to get here. so what you're not addressing the core issue.i you're not addressing the core issue. i mean, rishi saying that's going some way towards by saying, oh, well what we'll do , saying, oh, well what we'll do, we will process albanians coming over much more quickly . but the over much more quickly. but the backlog there is 20,000 albania

ins who are waiting for an asylum claim to be processed . asylum claim to be processed. 0nly asylum claim to be processed. only 650 of those have been decided . and it's worth bearing decided. and it's worth bearing in mind when they do make a claim. 50% actually are accepted . yes. well, we'll get stuck into the government's plans when it comes to albania. but we hear this often more legal and safe . this often more legal and safe. and this problem will be solved, surely, when are millions, if not of millions of people around the world who would quite like to live in the uk of various reasons economic social, cultural and so that, you know, we have be a little bit choosy when comes to this and that we've set up legal routes very specifically . yes. i mean are specifically. yes. i mean are safe and legal routes into the uk. the simple problem is there are there are fewer for refugees than some people like. and that's probably reflecting what british people want . i also british people want. i also think the issue with the idea that some oppose that we simply process we simply legally

process we simply legally process asylum claims in calais. well the problem is at that point you create a considerable pull effect into calais, which is as we know, a launching point and a gathering point for refugees seeking to cross the channel illegally . and that's channel illegally. and that's a huge problem not not simply from the perspective of controlling our borders or that matters , but our borders or that matters, but also from a humanitarian standpoint , also from a humanitarian standpoint, because we're saying people risk their lives for subject to people traffickers . subject to people traffickers. so it's an incredibly risky crossing . do need to find a crossing. we do need to find a way to deter it. now, sebastian and nigel, about one and nigel, we've got about one minute have to say minute before i have to say goodbye you both. you goodbye to, you both. could you give thoughts just give me your thoughts just quickly one question? do quickly on this one question? do you think there's flights will actually off the actually ever take off the ground? no , i think that's ground? nigel no, i think that's it because of the legal challenges . yes, i just that challenges. yes, i just that said. and if it and they do, it's not going to deter migrants or cross channel already talking about sending 200 to rwanda in the first place. and sebastian, very, very quickly , i'd be

very, very quickly, i'd be surprised if they ever took off. 0kay. so it's not looking great. thank you very much for joining us. there's afternoon on real britain political editor, the sunday mirror and sunday people. nigel sebastian nigel nelson and sebastian millbank studio. the millbank in the studio. he's the executive of critic. now executive editor of critic. now we're going be moving on to another debate of buckingham palace has a statement palace has released a statement explaining that a meeting filled with warmth and understanding took place between william's godmother , lady susan hussey and godmother, lady susan hussey and ngozi fulani , the ceo of sister ngozi fulani, the ceo of sister charity in meeting meeting lady susan hussey , her sincere susan hussey, her sincere apologies to ngozi fulani for her comments and the distress that they caused her but should lady susan hussey have offered an apology. and what does this mean for the royal family still with me? i forgot you were with me. political editor of the sunday mirror. nigel nelson and executive editor of the critic joseph millbank nigel. i'll start with you again . do you start with you again. do you think lady susan should have made this ? it seems to me that

made this? it seems to me that quite a bit been revealed about about ngozi fulani journey. and it seems that perhaps her charity isn't so squeaky clean and after all of these media performance is. it seems a bit weak from the palace. well, i mean , on the charity front, just mean, on the charity front, just up to the charity commission to completely investigation, which is a completely separate issue from this . what i'm yes, i mean, from this. what i'm yes, i mean, it is obviously up susan hussey, whether she chose to apologise or not. and i do appreciate that for an 83 year old who's given 60 years service to the queen losing her job quite so losing herjob quite so peremptorily , was actually seems peremptorily, was actually seems a bit harsh. however the palace has a zero tolerance to racism and i'm not quite sure what else they could really have done . and they could really have done. and what they want has happened now is they facilitated chance for susan hussey to apologise. she's

done she's agreed that you actually look at the sensitivities of around this and learn the experience and that really should be and should an end to it. now this learning from an experience that people always need to be taught it sounds very re—education style and but i mean of course sebastian there many accusations of racism in that netflix docu series . perhaps this apology was series. perhaps this apology was neededin series. perhaps this apology was needed in order to try and, you know, not tarnish the entire of the royal family who nigel says have a zero policy when it comes to zero tolerance policy when it comes to racism. yes. i mean, i think she definitely on her sword for the sake of the royal family this is after, you know, many decades of service to the royal family as well. i think deeply unfortunate. i think ngozi fulani created a situation in which this to happen. and in which this had to happen. and as turned what was clearly as she turned what was clearly a private grievance into public scandal and, you know, she's

we've seen her say, oh , faced we've seen her say, oh, faced abusive comments online. and that's the unfortunate. but on other end, it's worth saying the person who publicised the situation the first place all situation the first place in all of completely needless . of this is completely needless. and we've also got a situation where, she's someone where, you know, she's someone who dressing in who is, you know, dressing in the the african the colours of the african union. know, she was not union. you know, she was not appearing at this event, you know , i think, you know, she's know, i think, you know, she's someone was invited. was someone who was invited. she was happy heritage to be happy for her heritage to be shown demonstrated it of shown and demonstrated it of course and then she was very in assaulted apparently that she was asked although of course the interaction was rather awkward to say the least. and nigel, do you think that perhaps we're we're not too forgiving this day and age, this lady ngozi fulani could have dealt with the issue there. and then and said, you know, i'm not too sure this line of questioning or said that she was a bit offended at the time. she didn't have to go on good morning britain and come on gb news and on the bbc to say how racist this all was . seems a bit

racist this all was. seems a bit mean . i mean. racist this all was. seems a bit mean. i mean. right. you're absolutely right. i mean. she she could have handled it that way. and obviously, everyone has different about whether she should . certainly she milked the should. certainly she milked the whole thing for what it was worth. i do appreciate it. trouble is, the i think that one has to actually respect someone's if they feel that they've been a the victim of racism , whether it's an goza or racism, whether it's an goza or meghan frankly you've got to listen to that . now, again, listen to that. now, again, people will come to their own judgement about whether that thatis judgement about whether that that is valid. but once they've made the complaint that . made the complaint that. complaint must be taken seriously fully. and if you like , this is the problem with zero tolerance. it doesn't actually any room for manoeuvre . but i any room for manoeuvre. but i think the press is right as organisations are have that zero tolerance even when it seems a bit harsh was the result of that . yes. well, sebastian, to just do you think it was right for the royal family to have taken

away her role so quickly immediately after the accusation 7 immediately after the accusation ? well, i mean, i think it's very difficult because her role involves being completely about, you know, she has to have a higher standard than people because she's representing the royal family. so i think even the appearance of racism, something they can't afford and it's something they shouldn't have to deal with. so understand why resigned . but i also why she resigned. but i also think it's very sad that someone who's you know she's she's in that age he's now is having to end her service in this way. and i think it's also a pity that the media has added so much fuel , this particular fire. it's quite extraordinary . a small quite extraordinary. a small conversation turn into such an eruption and a scandal in the press but i guess we're used to that now thank you very much. political editor of the sunday mirror and sunday people nigel and millbank in the and sebastian millbank in the with me executive editor of the critic thank you very much both for your now. plenty more

for your time now. plenty more to afternoon on bill burton to come afternoon on bill burton feature. let me what you think about but the higher about that. but after the higher education watchdog universities must using equality laws as must stop using equality laws as an excuse restrict free speech. all asking is free speech still alive , kicking at universities? alive, kicking at universities? what can be done ? it's not. but what can be done? it's not. but first, let's have a look at the weather . looking first, let's have a look at the weather. looking ahead to this evening's weather. and the uk will be cold, frosty with a few wintry showers in the north. let's take a look at the details . skies will be clear this evening . southwest england, evening. southwest england, where it'll turn chilly and frosty once again . ice may also frosty once again. ice may also form over the ground. temperatures will also plummet across the south—east of england with another frosty night. it'll stay , but there could be a few stay, but there could be a few mist and fog patches this evening. south wales will be dry and this evening with clear skies . however, showers will skies. however, showers will continue in the north, mostly falling as a mixture , rain and falling as a mixture, rain and sleet. a dry, cold and frosty picture across the midlands this evening as temperatures fall

widely below freezing. any showers and also gradually move into northern england leaving some icy patches behind. skies be cloudy across northern england this evening with a few rain and sleet showers around manchester to dry air towards newcastle quickly turning frosty again . temperatures will tumble again. temperatures will tumble across scotland this evening to bnng across scotland this evening to bring another frosty . we could bring another frosty. we could see lows of minus celsius over any snowy ground. it'll stay dry in northern ireland this evening, but mist and fog patches will spread quickly after dark . now patches will spread quickly after dark. now most parts of the uk will stay very cold again tonight , the uk will stay very cold again tonight, with a widespread frost , but milder air will start to arrive in the southwest towards dawn. that's how the weather is shaping up overnight into morning .

welcome back to real britain. i'm emily colville watching , i'm emily colville watching, listening to real britain on gb news on tv, online and on your digital radio now. the chief executive of the office for students warns universities must stop using equality laws as a way to stifle free speech on campuses. universities have a legal obligation to , eliminate legal obligation to, eliminate discrimination on the basis of certain characteristics. but higher education watchdog says policies , which promote a policies, which promote a particular protected character , particular protected character, stick to the detriment of others may have the effect of curtailing speech. we'll find out what that means. they also warned of the insidious of self—censorship amongst wing academics after a third of them admitted to hiding their views on campus. joining is the general secretary of the free union, toby young . this union, toby young. this watchdog, it doesn't seem to have been captured by the same anti free speech mentality that other institutions in our country have . no, i think that's country have. no, i think that's right, emily. and that's partly because i think the chief is

pretty sound and understands the extent of free speech crisis in our universities , partly because our universities, partly because lord wharton , the chair of the lord wharton, the chair of the office for students , he's an office for students, he's an ally, a longstanding ally of bofis ally, a longstanding ally of boris johnson's. and understands the problem, too. so, yeah , the the problem, too. so, yeah, the free speech union really welcome this new guidance. i heard of the office of the student. so are you familiar with it? yeah, i'm familiar with it because i was appointed to the board of the office for students at the beginning 2018, when it was first set up. and i had to resign shortly afterwards when the offence archaeologists uncovered various unsuitable things i'd said on twitter late at night after a couple of glasses of wine and i was essentially forced to step down. so i do know that it's oh dear, you cancelled . and so to what you cancelled. and so to what extent ? i mean, you cancelled. and so to what extent? i mean, i gave you cancelled. and so to what extent ? i mean, i gave that extent? i mean, i gave that spiel opening this up about how characteristic are used in order to others. what do they mean by

this. break it down well so the way in which the equality act the 2010 equality act is often invoked by woke activists is to say if you allow a particular speaker who says something that we disagreeable says, for instance , that trans women instance, that trans women shouldn't be able to compete . shouldn't be able to compete. biological women in sports like rugby and weightlifting , that rugby and weightlifting, that that will constitute harassment . but of people with protected the protected characteristic of gender reassignment on campus and they interpret that as meaning anyone who identifies as trans or and they say that the act effectively prohibits allowing this person this gender critical feminist to come and speak on our campus because allowing her to speak constitutes harassed but of trans students and staff. now a misinterpretation of the equality act. the equality act was interpreted in something like that way by university

about three years ago to just defy no platforming to feminist at gender critical law professors and distinguished equality . t's barrister called equality. t's barrister called a reinsdorf was asked to conduct a review of what had wrong by essex university , and she essex university, and she concluded that the equality act was being interpreted as stonewall would like it to be interpreted , but not as it interpreted, but not as it should be interpreted in. law and why this was so welcome as it's essentially saying to universities, you mustn't interpret the equality act in this way. it wasn't designed to shut down free speech on campus people hearing they might find disagreeable. does not under the equality act constitute harassment and where are we legislation when it comes to free speech and free speech in university is because the government has had various attempts have they not, to sort of bring in more legislation and laws that will protect freedom speech do you think that we're at risk of sort of layering on top each other sort of more and more laws ? fundamentally, it's more laws? fundamentally, it's the equality act that's issue .

the equality act that's issue. well, i don't think it would be a bad idea to reform the equality act just to make it crystal that it cannot be should not be invoked to shut down speech on campus, but the government has essentially tried a few times, as you say, to try and increase the protections for free speech on campus. it did it in 1986 in the form of the education number two act, which imposed a legal duty on universities to uphold free speech on campus, where practicably but the problem was that duty was often honoured in the breach than the observance because there was no enforcement mechanism. so the good thing the new bill, the higher education of speech bill, which is currently in lords about to come back to the house commons is it introduces not only slightly more robust protections for free speech on campus in english universities anyway, but it also a couple of enforcement mechanisms . a couple of enforcement mechanisms. it's going to create a role on the office for

a new role on the office for students at the over for students of a free speech essentially. and if you if think your speech has been your free speech has been breached campus you can breached on campus you can complain speech complain to the free speech champion. an champion. he'll have an investigative staff and he'll be investigative staff and he'll be in a position to levy fines on universities he upholds those universities if he upholds those complaints. and in addition it's going this new sort going to create this new sort whereby it should be possible for students and staff who think that free speech has been breached take their breached to take their university to court in the court. that, we think, will court. and that, we think, will be effective probably be a very effective probably a effective of the two enforcement mechanisms and one worry about the higher education is that the government tried to watered down the talked a little bit, only enabung the talked a little bit, only enabling to sue in the county court as an absolute last resort . and that was intended as a compromise to try critical compromise to try get critical lords side rejected the bill lords on side rejected the bill anyway . so i hope the house of anyway. so i hope the house of commons is going to that commons is going to put that back when returns to the back when it returns to the commons. very for commons. thank you very much for talking all of that talking us through. all of that was secretary the was general secretary of the free union young. free speech union toby young. thank you much for your time this afternoon now you're with gb and your dab radio

gb news on tv and your dab radio after the break. a tory mp is being berated by her constituents for taking time off after the birth of her child. so should not be to take the normal 52 weeks maternity leave . we'll 52 weeks maternity leave. we'll discuss that shortly. now it's time for a check on the news headunes. time for a check on the news headlines . 0h, time for a check on the news headlines . oh, well i'm .

not welcome back. you're watching listening to real britain on gb news on tv, online and on your digital radio. i'm emily carver. so mp theo has spoken out after she received abuse for going on maternity leave after the birth of daughter. the mp for stafford , who gave birth in august, says she's continued to attend constituency events and votes in parliament proxy, but some

constituents have demanded that she return to full work immediately . maternity leave immediately. maternity leave does not to mps because they are classed as office holders, not but should employees get the regular 52 weeks? joining me to discuss is author and journalist rebecca reid, a mother herself, a new. how is the baby sleeping which is my favourite state for her. fantastic. so i think the crux of the issue apart from the horrible abuse this mp has has received clearly is whether mps should be considered employees and therefore have an entitlement to statutory maternity leave . you think they maternity leave. you think they should do? i think they should, but i think the state of maternity leave is fairly woeful in this country. so you get 39 weeks paid and i can't remember exactly how much it is, but it's yeah, it's something like £50 a week. so it's really not enough to live on in any sense but the problem is if a female who have babies on table to take

maternity leave , your options maternity leave, your options are women a childbearing age which is pretty broad sort of 18 through 45 can't be imposed if they want to have a family and that's not a workable system. you can't say the entire sector of humanity is unable to do a specific job, so you have to have a around . but i think the have a around. but i think the problem at the moment is, they don't seem to have a robust system where when somebody has a baby. they could take a year, nine months, they're nine months, and they're replaced temporarily by somebody. and i understand, given it's given their elected, it's complicated got to complicated, but there's got to be to get through this be a way to get through this problem . can't say problem. you can't just say sorry essentially at work sorry them essentially at work after just staying . after two weeks, just staying. it there's a there's a bit it seems there's a there's a bit of a hierarchy here . so in last of a hierarchy here. so in last year , boris johnson passed a law year, boris johnson passed a law which unlocked it, which introduced formal paid leave for senior ministers , whereas a senior ministers, whereas a backbench mp don't have the same entitlement. but i do wonder, would it be a bit tricky? i mean who would come and replace you for six, nine months, a year? just some random person from the

from the community, from the conservative association or , the conservative association or, the labour association . i think it's labour association. i think it's really complicated and i think you probably have to have some kind of i programme where you'd have a number of like substitute teachers. right. it's not ideal for teachers to be off. you want the teacher who is your class teacher, but women have babies and that's unavoidable and wonderful as well as inconvenient that's where you have facilitate. i think have to facilitate. so i think probably have to have a team of sort of substitute employees who work government maybe work for the government maybe have more have been elected in a more general sense to a to cover general sense to a into to cover . and, you know, i can't remember exactly how many employees there are at any one time, but number of who time, but the number of them who are totally at any are all totally tiny at any time. this isn't a massive ongoing issue. you're not going to be suddenly of the to be suddenly half of the employees the country because employees in the country because they're babies. it's they're all having babies. it's probably like two probably going to be like two maximum at any one time. so it's not the massive issue that some might would be if you were might think would be if you were suddenly them 52 weeks suddenly to give them 52 weeks off of the of

off the whole of the of parliament wouldn't walk out. no. i do wonder what we no. but i do wonder what we about maternity leave in this country. i mean, you said that you think it's a bit measly . how you think it's a bit measly. how much do you think we should be paying much do you think we should be paying women when they take time off? it's tricky . businesses off? it's tricky. businesses there's multiple problems. one of the problems is that it's not weighted to cost of living. so you get the same if you live somewhere where rent is average £500 a month. if do well, you live somewhere where the average is pounds month ? i think is 1500 pounds a month? i think so. would be lot of stuff so. it would be a lot of stuff that you could do that wasn't hanging around out cash. so could more free activity. could have more free activity. baby classes cost about £10 on average, you want to take average, so if you want to take your week to your child twice a week to something there's singing something where there's singing or any of the things or music or any of the things that babies enjoy doing. also leaving house, very leaving the house, very important. have a baby important. when you have a baby all those things are very all of those things are very expensive . baby food is expensive. baby food is expensive, formula is expensive . if you're unable to, well, choose not to breastfeed. so you as well as giving people cash, you also try and create you could also try and create

better infrastructures so that people spending all people can not be spending all their money small their money on. very small bafics their money on. very small basics. i think. also you could try to encourage systems where it's easier to have flexible working part time working. c0 working . my dream would be to working. my dream would be to find some other women babies my age who also journalists and trade looking after each trade off looking after each other's . but there's other's babies. but there's no help or support for any of that. it seems to that you basically all are expected to nothing. you can't claim maternity if you are earning. you're working, earning. so if you're working, you any maternity you cannot have any maternity benefit . so it penalises you if benefit. so it penalises you if you wanted to work, let's say 12 hours a week doing a shift in a bar in the evening when you're partners with baby you'd be partners with the baby you'd be penalised doing that because penalised for doing that because you'd therefore you'd be earning money therefore you couldn't have maternity income. so broadly speaking, the system at the moment is gave you not enough money off and not enough money to live off and then allow you to earn any then not allow you to earn any money. top it off. 0kay. money. to top it off. 0kay. well that make sense that does not make sense economically at but in economically at all, but in terms of the house of commons , i terms of the house of commons, i mean, i don't know if you've ever considered running for parliament, but you definitely

put yourself there in the media. do you think miss jenny from constituents is turnoff ? i mean, constituents is turnoff? i mean, there's a lot of reasons why i wouldn't to be an mp. first and foremost, i think i started my career a sex writer. i don't think that's a particularly good bafis think that's a particularly good basis for me to become one. i think that's i think you got i think that's i think you got i think one of the major issues is that i think misogyny is a strong and we probably should only use when we actually only use it when we actually mean like actual hatred of women. i think sexism is more common misogyny. think common than misogyny. i think most women, most people don't hate women, but all old but i think they're all old fashioned about what fashioned ideals about what women what they should women are and what they should be. and i think there are still women are and what they should b

impossible securely in impossible to live securely in major on one salary. so major cities on one salary. so even lot of a lot of even though a lot of a lot of personally i couldn't of not work i have a vocational job work but i have a vocational job that if i a job that that i adore if i a job that i didn't enjoy i would have been delighted it a year just delighted to take it a year just with however the amount that with my however the amount that my mortgage costs would have to be earning extra normal some to live on a single income. and this is the problem is that capitalism actually secretly quite likes aspect of quite likes the aspect of feminism says all have jobs feminism that says all have jobs because money pumped because it's more money pumped out. but ultimately the victim of that is that i personally believe in a perfect world one parent would be at home with the children at all times . i think children at all times. i think it should be switched between because think particularly for boys to be around the boys need to be around the fathers. i think male role models very important, but models are very important, but it's possible for most it's not possible for most people live one income. people to live off one income. so have that option. so you don't have that option. may just say very quickly may i just say very quickly before we before we wrap this up, you coming on and, up, thank you for coming on and, you some women and this you know, some women and this may sound harsh, but may sound a bit harsh, but anecdotal is there for anecdotal evidence is there for some women time then some women do time then maternity leave in awkward ways

for their employers for example some teachers will choose time their pregnancy so they maximise that amount of time off and of course everyone pays for it. the taxpayer pays for it. i feel a small business. it can be extremely difficult. do you think we risk if we give too much to women who on maternity leave we actually risk employers saying, oh, you've got you've got an engagement ring, i'm not going to hire you? i'm worried. going to shell out for going to have to shell out for your i mean, your maternity leave. i mean, i certainly would never wear an engagement or wedding ring engagement ring or wedding ring to interview when used to a job interview when i used to a job interview when i used to be ten rings off every single time. i they the issue is time. i think they the issue is there's a misconception when your employer only pays you for the first six weeks after that, you're straight statutory unless you're straight statutory unless you have an hospitality . big you have an hospitality. big companies like the iwc and the deloittes, they add to it to attract a calibre women that they wouldn't otherwise be able get. and you know, a lot of the top graduates in this country are will have are people who will have children the next 7 to 15

children within the next 7 to 15 years and you will that talent on the table because you can't compete the of good compete on the basis of good maternity . i compete on the basis of good maternity. i absolutely compete on the basis of good maternity . i absolutely have got maternity. i absolutely have got i mean choosing when you get pregnant is tricky. it's quite difficult. get pregnant deliberately in a specific if you can manage it because, your fertility allows it . i think you fertility allows it. i think you did it not to time it to get the best possible amount of time of work be with work because you want to be with your child and i think i know but grumble who when but others will grumble who when they're forced to pick up the. thank you very much for having babies in this country. we have an ageing population because women have kids women don't want to have kids and can see. why? that's and you can see. why? that's true. women to true. we want career women to have too. thank you very have kids too. thank you very much, rebecca. author and broadcast of a broadcast and of course, a regular on channel. thank regular on this channel. thank very lots have very much. now, lots of you have been getting today about been getting in today about today's strikes. today's topics on strikes. gordon let's see if the gordon says, let's see if the delusional public support strikes are in power delusional public support strikthe are in power delusional public support strikthe unions are in power delusional public support strikthe unions really re in power delusional public support strikthe unions really to in power delusional public support strikthe unions really to turn»wer and the unions really to turn the screw tighter . colin says the screw tighter. colin says save christmas it should be made a criminal offence . criminal a criminal offence. criminal offence to take industrial or cause similar disruption during the month of december. you know,

i do think that this sentiment is echoed quite a bit. i think people were a little bit to begin you know, cost begin with, you know, cost of living, inflation so on. but living, inflation and so on. but now they're being hit by now that they're being hit by the the real life the consequences, the real life experience of these these strikes , they're starting to strikes, they're starting to sour a bit, perhaps. greg says , sour a bit, perhaps. greg says, amazes me how people try pull on the heartstrings about christmas and grinch. these people seem to forget that the government destroyed the economy through its lockdown policies. but what i is the unions back those its lockdown policies. but what lockdowns on they wanted more particularly the teachers unions .john particularly the teachers unions . john says if people actually do support the strikes, they haven't made the between the strikers getting more money and the fact that it's them who be paying the fact that it's them who be paying people wake up realise paying as people wake up realise and feel the hit in their pockets support for the strikes will through the i do will go through the floor. i do anticipate that we'll be looking at our gdp figures for december, which we'll see in january and there will be a bit of a nosedive or not the expected rise during the december month. people simply aren't going out

to spending money they can't get anywhere anyway. moving on. i'll get . today marks get off my soapbox. today marks 100 days since queen elizabeth, the passed away at balmoral and it's troublesome hundred it's been a troublesome hundred days the king days for. the new king especially with the from harry and meghan's controversial netflix documentary. despite the harsh criticism, the couple levelled at the royal family. it's the duke and it's reported the duke and duchess sussex will still be duchess of sussex will still be ianed duchess of sussex will still be invited to his official coronation may. 0ur reporter karen walker reflects on the king's reign far. buckingham palace has confirmed that her majesty the has died . god save majesty the has died. god save the . queen king charles ascended the. queen king charles ascended the. queen king charles ascended the throne during troubled times for great britain. families forced to choose between heating and eating. there's disagreement about how to handle migrants landing our shores. even the king's own son and his wife polarising opinions. he's dealt quite well with revelations . the

quite well with revelations. the accusations contained the meghan and harry sex part on netflix because he hasn't responded. there's very little of substance to respond , but he's kept his to respond, but he's kept his cool and he believes that ship of state will weather this storm as it's weathered many in the past . in his as it's weathered many in the past. in his first 100 as it's weathered many in the past . in his first 100 days, as it's weathered many in the past. in his first 100 days, his majesty's a point of visiting all four corners of the united kingdom just days into the role. the king promised religious leaders to protect the space for faith itself . defender of the faith itself. defender of the faith, perhaps turning into a defender of all religions, signalling his commitments to christianity , islam, judaism and christianity, islam, judaism and other faiths . new $0.50 coins other faiths. new $0.50 coins beanng other faiths. new $0.50 coins bearing the effigy king charles are now being spent in our shops . they went into circulation this month and other coins will follow soon, keeping with tradition. the king's portrait faces to the left in the opposite direction . to the late

opposite direction. to the late queen. his effigy created by sculpture. martin jennings and was personally approved . charles was personally approved. charles all those those weeks, those months of work so great collaboration you have with the designers , the royal mint. all designers, the royal mint. all of that goes into producing . of that goes into producing. just one piece of metal. if you think of it in those terms, even though there are a millions of them. they reproduce again and again. exactly that one piece. king charles has spent a lot of time on engagements with people. many believe , the monarchy many believe, the monarchy survives by staying relevant to the next generation, as well as meeting young business leaders in bradford. he talked trainee silversmiths in london to eggan since that scrambled place protection officers to king site has raised some concerns security. but the king to tackle challenges head on deciding on an unplanned walkabout , showing an unplanned walkabout, showing he is not afraid to meet greet strangers . king charles, the strangers. king charles, the third, has benefited from a huge

increase in popularity since the start of his . insiders hope it start of his. insiders hope it only ahead of his coronation next. cameron walker . gb news. next. cameron walker. gb news. that was a rather lovely package from. cameron walker of royal reporter now moving on to something rather different, but links what we were links in with what we were talking with young talking about with toby young about speech and, about free speech and, universities, trans rights activists have stormed a lecture theatre at edinburgh university earlier this week. they forced the cancellation of the screening a film how brave screening of a film how brave adult human female, a documentary which challenges transgender ideology and examines opposition to it in. the uk was due to be screened by the universities, academics , the universities, academics, academic freedom group , but it academic freedom group, but it had to be cancelled after. ten activists occupied the venue where it was scheduled to be shown to give her thoughts on. this is the communications officer, edf uk lois mcclatchey mcclatchey . lois hello lois, are mcclatchey. lois hello lois, are you there ? yeah, she's there. oh

you there? yeah, she's there. oh great. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. now, do you know was going to be in this film did it end up being shown ? well, i to know, is this shown? well, i to know, is this even the activists knew what was it going to be in this film? it was billed as talking point for those who believe that women's rights are being erased in countries like scotland , where countries like scotland, where obviously this issue of gender and gender reform , a very hot and gender reform, a very hot topic politically . 0bviously, topic politically. obviously, it's a good time for university students to be engaging in this . the point of university is for students to be challenging thoughts of the engaging in in these and ideas. these are going to be our leaders of the future . so it's just about the right time for them to be thinking about these things and arguments on all sides . and unfortunately, on all sides. and unfortunately, the students and university weren't able to do that this time it was deemed so in time because it was deemed so in appropriate to be to be talking and thinking about these ideas that were not allowed that they were not allowed to even about them. so the

university of edinburgh, they allowed to hear them that night. ihope allowed to hear them that night. i hope that they went home and looked at the film themselves. they make their own they could make up their own minds about what was being shown about. about the irony is about. yeah, about the irony is that it adds to the intrigue it not. i'm sure some of the student who were planning to or who heard about this incident at edinburgh went and tried edinburgh went home and tried watch it themselves because it seems this there's a lot of peer pressure be outraged by such things when actually the number of people who are actually outraged is pretty small . that outraged is pretty small. that was certainly the feedback and places like twitter a lot of and students across the countries that they would be tuning into the film it does call into question the arguments of the other side if they feel that they cannot hold a real debate on these issues that they to shut down films events. we had a uk we did polling last year find out about censorship at university and we found that a third of students in the last

few years noticed an increase in cancellation of events and. speakers, de—platforming of speakers who have come to speak to them about important but perhaps controversial issues . perhaps controversial issues. and so it's important people are engaging on these things . yeah, engaging on these things. yeah, as you say, hopefully this is only up to the intrigue and students learned that they have to come up with their own arguments on the topic. they are told that they can't even debate these things . then those these things. then those arguments simply going arguments simply aren't going to be their side sound be heard. makes their side sound a . so it's quite a lot weaker. so it's quite extraordinary. i you have women like j.k. rolling thinking about these issues long and hard campaigning on the right for women to be able to stand for their sex based rights, which to most people, i believe people think this common sense but even when you have the likes of j.k. rowling or ricky gervais pointing out the inconsistencies in this particular ideology , in this particular ideology, these students still think that they can just suppress free speech of something that's clearly been talked about elsewhere . unfortunately,

elsewhere. unfortunately, i think this the consequence of a long, long time of censorship . long, long time of censorship. scotland, a couple of years ago, there were the government introduced the hate crime act which made very chilled free speech and made it difficult to have conversations even around the family dinner table about important things like gender, sexuality and how that fits into the politics of . 0ur day. and as the politics of. our day. and as these incidents have grown, we've seen j.k. rowling. i heart j.k. rowling posters torn down at railway stations and free speech facing freeze. and it's not only on this issue , the not only on this issue, the university of edinburgh only few months ago we heard about an incident where a pro—life speaker had come to share her views about coerced abortion in our country . views about coerced abortion in our country. it was views about coerced abortion in our country . it was obviously our country. it was obviously a very important topic for women. and that event was shouted out, drowned out and forced to end by protesters as well . so this is protesters as well. so this is a very unfortunate trend that we're seeing. and i hope that the government are paying attention . and this gives attention. and this gives impetus to how long other free

speech higher education bill that we've been waiting for a long time. and that will hopefully strengthen the rights of students and encourage universities to be protecting their speech and their their free speech and their ability to in important ability to engage in important conversations . half scottish, conversations. half scottish, myself i am a bit worried of what's been going on in terms free speech and women's rights north the border. thank you north of the border. thank you very this very much. joining us this afternoon, that lewis afternoon, that was lewis mcclatchey, communications afternoon, that was lewis mcclatch

event allows for debate. right. that's all we've got time for. now was a great show. we've got through so you've been watching real britain with me. i'm emily carver. much . i carver. thank you very much. i think may be back week . think i may be back next week. cheering for michelle dewberry when thank when she takes a holiday. thank you much for your company you very much for your company and please do keep your views coming i'll leave you with coming in. i'll leave you with the ahead to. the weather looking ahead to. this evening's weather and the uk will be and frosty with a few wintry in the north. let's take a look at the details skies will be clear this evening across southwest england where it'll turn chilli and frosty again. ice also form over the high ice may also form over the high ground temperatures will also plummet across the south of england with another frosty night. it'll stay dry, but there could be few mist and fog patches this evening south wales will be dry and cold this evening with clear skies . evening with clear skies. however, showers will continue in the north, mostly falling as a mixture of rain and sleet, a dry, cold and, frosty picture across the midlands this evening as temperatures fall widely below freezing . any showers in

below freezing. any showers in the norfolk gradually move into northern england leaving icy patches behind . skies will be patches behind. skies will be cloudy across england this evening with a few rain and sleet showers around manchester. dher sleet showers around manchester. drier towards newcastle and quickly turning frosty again. temperatures will tumble across scotland this evening to bring another frosty night we could lows of —12 celsius over any snowy ground. it'll stay dry northern ireland this evening but mist fog patches will spread quickly after dark. now most parts of the uk will stay very cold again tonight with a widespread frost but milder air will start to arrive in the southwest towards dawn . that's southwest towards dawn. that's how the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning. i'm michael portillo join me on on a sunday morning for topical discussion debate eight arts and culture and even the ethical dilemmas . i culture and even the ethical dilemmas. i don't always agree with you michael but michael portillo sundays on gb news the people's channel, britain's news.

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