good evening . it's me again good evening. it's me again neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio in a few minutes discuss the comments from a tory who wants the government to suspend the use of covid vaccines . we the use of covid vaccines. we will discuss whether we should a totally different approach fighting world hunger, poverty , fighting world hunger, poverty, climate change. i'll be by one of the country's most famous weatherman to find out if we're going to get a white christmas and with the big day just a week away, i'll be joined in the studio. santa claus , but only studio. santa claus, but only a few good boys and girls , of few good boys and girls, of course. of that and more

course. all of that and more coming first, update on coming. but first, an update on the latest news from stephanie. elsie . neill thank you. i am elsie. neill thank you. i am bethany elsie with , your top bethany elsie with, your top stories at 6:00. a woman who injured in a crowd crash the 02 academy in injured in a crowd crash the o2 academy in brixton has now died. the met police has named as 33 year old rebecca kumalo of newham. the nigerian issac, who was performing that night, said he's devastated and overwhelmed with grief . two other women, with grief. two other women, aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical condition . nhs bosses critical condition. nhs bosses urging hospitals to free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by crews in england . they action by crews in england. they say it's vital the government and unions talk urgently to resolve the paid dispute before the first day of action on the 21st of december. it comes after nhs data shows one in six patients are now waiting more an hour to be transferred from

ambulance staff to an 18. while cabinet minister dr. liam , who cabinet minister dr. liam, who worked as a gp , told gb news worked as a gp, told gb news they need to overhaul how long patients in critical care . and patients in critical care. and one of our problems is that we have so many people occupying acute in acute hospitals which are very expensive, very intensive for staff they really don't need to be there . we need, don't need to be there. we need, in my view, to go back to concept of convalescent hospital . and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting a appropriate care, because if you've got people occupying those acute beds who don't need to be there, it doesn't matter how much money you pour into the system to get system, you're not going to get the that's appropriate the output that's appropriate for . the nurses union is for that. the nurses union is warning that the health secretary's macho negotiating style is hindering efforts to resolve their pay dispute . rcn resolve their pay dispute. rcn general secretary pat collins has steve barclay undervalue the work of nurses because a 90% female profession , she's urging female profession, she's urging the prime minister to step in

ahead of further action planned on tuesday. the union has been asking for a 19% pay rise but says they would consider any new offer . while says they would consider any new offer. while former medical director and chief medical officer dr. andrew vallance owen said nurses should be paid fairly . i said nurses should be paid fairly. i think the said nurses should be paid fairly . i think the government fairly. i think the government has a moral duty to look after its nurses who have done so much work for us over the last three years through covid the body award they were awarded by this so—called independent review body. what was it, four, 4% or something which was morally wrong as well. if they took more notice, if the government evidence than they did at the nurses evidence and they should come back to the table when we've seen this level of inflation with and them back to the table . travellers are facing the table. travellers are facing more delays on the railway as of the rmt union canteen knew a fourth day of strikes this . fourth day of strikes this. trains are starting later than usual and finishing earlier with some parts of the country having

service at all. bus drivers in london also continuing their 48 hour strike, adding to the travel disruption. former conservative adviser claire pearsall told gb news currently no end in sight. pearsall told gb news currently no end in sight . as we've seen no end in sight. as we've seen too regularly. whatever are negotiations, especially with the rail unions , it never comes the rail unions, it never comes out in a good way. whatever is offered by the government is sneered at as derisory and isn't going to hit the mark. so you do wonder what is the that mick lynch has in mind? what would he accept and what the country can afford? but it is quite clear that something needs happen because the country is pretty now ground to a halt and thousands of are without water. in north london , a mains pipe in north london, a mains pipe burst . london fire in north london, a mains pipe burst. london fire brigade was called properties in camden last night after water reaching half a metre flooded. more than 100 homes. thames water says some homes. thames water says some homes remain without water as they continue to assess damage .

they continue to assess damage. the met office has issued a yellow weather warnings and is expecting ice for much of scotland, wales and southwest england . it comes as blizzards england. it comes as blizzards are set to sweep across the north of the country weekend. temperatures could temporarily rise on sunday. frost is expected to create difficult road conditions and croatia finished third in the world cup after a two one victory over . after a two one victory over. mislav orsic or stitches late . mislav orsic or stitches late. first half strike was enough to set the contest after two early goals inside the first 9 minutes of the match. france play against argentina in final tomorrow . you're up to date on tomorrow. you're up to date on tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. let's get back to . neil thanks, bethany . there was a

thanks, bethany. there was a moment worth remembering last when for the big book of history it was a matter of a few minutes duration in the house of commons when conservative mp for north—west leicestershire, andrew bridgen spoke about harms caused by the products marketed as covid vaccines and called for the complete suspension because of and i quote clear and robust data of significant harms and little ongoing benefit . he little ongoing benefit. he referred to peer reviewed research by cardiologist asim malhotra, who has described the rollout of the biontech product as, quote perhaps the greatest miscarriage of medical science attacking democracy , damage to attacking democracy, damage to population health , and the population health, and the erosion of trust in medicine that we will in our lifetime . that we will in our lifetime. strong stuff, indeed . as i say, strong stuff, indeed. as i say, it was quite a moment. he said a great deal , it was quite a moment. he said a great deal, about half a million yellow card reports of adverse effects . a journalist from a effects. a journalist from a major news who told him about being bombarded with calls from

people hurt by the jobs. how that journalist thought it biggest scandal in medical history in this country but feared that if he were to say as much in his newsroom he would lose his job. he spoke about how reanalysis pfizer's own data published peer reviewed journal vaccine showed one serious adverse effect for every hundred jobs given about how other medical products have been completely withdrawn . of the far completely withdrawn. of the far lower incidence of harm he mentioned the withdrawal of the swine flu jab in 1976 after guillain—barre swine flu jab in 1976 after guillain—barré syndrome was caused by it in just one in every 100,000, and the rotavirus job taken off the market after causing a form of bowel obstruction in one in every 10,000 children. he said the benefits of the vaccine were close to non—existent . he talked close to non—existent. he talked to members of the jcb having huge financial links to the bill and melinda gates foundation, running into billions pounds. he quoted the former editor of the

bmj richard smith, who said in 2016 that medical research misconduct rife. could something is rotten in british medicine and has been for a long time , and has been for a long time, said. he quoted richard houghton, editor in of the lancet, who said 2015, quote, science has taken turn towards darkness . britain concluded. we darkness. britain concluded. we have already sacrificed far too many our citizens on the altar of ignorance , unfettered of ignorance, unfettered corporate greed . mr. britain's corporate greed. mr. britain's was memorable. what made feel like history in the making, though ? in the response by maria though? in the response by maria kofi old parliamentary under—secretary of state at the department of health and social care. she didn't speak for as long, but her words were every bit as unequivocal . there is no bit as unequivocal. there is no doubt my mind that the thing that made the biggest difference in combating was the introduction of the vaccine , she introduction of the vaccine, she said. it's important put on the record that all the vaccines used in the uk are safe , she used in the uk are safe, she said. i completely the

conspiracy theories about whole group of people benefiting financial from the roll out of the vaccine. she said it seems reasonable to me to see that not possible that . the two entirely possible that. the two entirely different realities described last week in the house of by britain and coalfield respectively can both exist at the same time in an honest and universe . what was exposed in universe. what was exposed in that chamber was not a difference of opinion, but two mutually exclusive worlds . in mutually exclusive worlds. in short, one of them has got it badly wrong since they were each and often described in decisions and often described in decisions and policies relating to the lives and deaths of billions people. the stakes could hardly higher. i see again of them has got it badly. badly it's the same story on the other side of the atlantic . last week, florida the atlantic. last week, florida governor ron desantis announced his plan to set up a statewide grand jury to investigate any wrongdoing regarding the roll out of the so—called vaccines a chief medical adviser. out of the so—called vaccines a chief medical adviser . the chief medical adviser. the

president, dr. anthony fauci , president, dr. anthony fauci, responded to the desantis statements . don't have a clue statements. don't have a clue what he's asking for. we have a vaccine that unequivocally is highly effective and safe and has saved literally millions of again, as is the case here in the uk. one of them has got it badly badly wrong. what have been wondering for a while do and which was neatly illustrated those exchanges in parliament and in the us is whether the stakes actually so high regarding . what was done during regarding. what was done during the past two years. that was an intense action to deny the people the truth many years to come. i wonder, in fact, if what has happened in the name of covid 19 the vast scale of it all, the necessary consacre is in the event of britain's side of the argument being proved correct drives an attempt to, in case the covid event, with an impending terrible denial until every last person involved is dead. every last person involved is dead . what is being alleged dead. what is being alleged about the so—called vaccines is of monumental importance. what

britain and malhotra have claimed ought to be the biggest story in the country in the world. and yet anyone interested in familiarising themselves . in familiarising themselves. most of what was said has to be looking for it. only britain withdrawals of those other medical when the safety was credibly questioned. that's the world thought we lived in without voiced in the face of credible research leads to the pausing of a course of action and a rethink. and yet we are with peer reviewed demonstrating one in every one people receiving pfizer jab suffers receiving pfizerjab suffers a serious reaction and medical professionals of unimpeachable credentials , urging at least a credentials, urging at least a pause in roll out, if not a full and final stop. and still, the government sponsored are everywhere in the and online inviting people of all ages to take even more of the same product . dr. malhotra said on product. dr. malhotra said on this last week in relation the pfizer jab this last week in relation the pfizerjab quote this last week in relation the pfizer jab quote the this last week in relation the pfizerjab quote the original pfizer jab quote the original trial data which was reanalysed suggested one was more likely to

get serious effects from the vaccine than one was to be hospitalised with covid. what does mean? it means if that is correct, which it seems to be , correct, which it seems to be, it should never have been approved in the first place. questions have been asked all over the world about blood and any possible connection with the astrazeneca product. countries across europe have stopped it andifs across europe have stopped it and it's no longer being given to people under 30. in the uk . to people under 30. in the uk. it's worth noting that awareness day. pascal soriot, chief executive officer of astrazeneca, was knighted by king charles for services to life sciences in a ceremony at windsor castle . all around the windsor castle. all around the world, there is mounting evidence of deaths and injuries caused by the so—called vaccines that are more and more excess deaths . people of all ages dying deaths. people of all ages dying every deaths unrelated to. pause for a to consider the following . in the united states in the second half of 2021, 61,000 americans between the ages of 25

and 44 died of causes unrelated to covid, the death toll of the same group during the decade long vietnam war was 58,000. here in the uk at the start of the lockdown in 2020. in the week ending 23rd of march, there were 1317 nine excess deaths . in were 1317 nine excess deaths. in the week ending 21st october this year. the figure was 1822. there are more people dying every week now of causes unrelated to covid than at the height of the. daily. we would to look on in horror at covid death toll. we rise outrage about these latest deaths. the round the clock coverage . dr. round the clock coverage. dr. john campbell, a regular contributor to this channel, said last month in relation to the un's data regarding excess deaths . there is something deaths. there is something pretty horrible going . over 1800 pretty horrible going. over 1800 deaths a week, more than , we deaths a week, more than, we would expect. and it's been going on for a long time now. and we an explanation . what we

and we an explanation. what we get instead is the relentless continuation of the roll out, the push get boosted in the us others here in the uk. see we're still a pandemic. if that's true, it's the longest lasting pandemic in modern history. much longer than the spanish flu pandemic . at the end of the pandemic. at the end of the first world war, the concern being voiced, though, by britain malhotra has been being shouted from the rooftops by many, many others years. for as long as we've had the products marketed as vaccine that have been voices asking questions and those were silenced, derided ridiculed, reputations ruined . back in reputations ruined. back in 1995, us physicist sagan demanded restless inquiry from all scientists . science requires all scientists. science requires an complete openness to all ideas , said. on the other hand, ideas, said. on the other hand, it requires the most rigorous and uncompromising and so how did we get to where we are now? when did we set aside and scepticism and decide to live in a world in which we must all of

us do precisely what we told by our governments and the preferred experts without ever raising much as a questioning voice the chamber in which bndgen voice the chamber in which bridgen his speech was all but empty because, with a few exceptions , none of the rest exceptions, none of the rest cared to listen to what he had to say about a course of action affecting tens of millions of lives here in the uk and billion around the world. let's give the devotees due. let's many are daily in receipt of messages raising the alarm. but find of survival in the world of politics means. they keep steam rather than rock the boat. i hear from other journalists saying they in contact with employees with medical professional or with high profile media types all of whom have decided to stay well clear of the so—called vaccines . some of the so—called vaccines. some of the so—called vaccines. some of those people have taken some jobs, some none . but the fear of jobs, some none. but the fear of speaking a culture of silence in the face of what so many to be an egregious, wrong is enabling the narrative to persist unchallenged . the behaviour of unchallenged. the behaviour of governments and in the last two

or three years has changed the world. it might still look the same morally , but in all the same morally, but in all the ways that much of it been altered. those are awake to it all. perceive a new reality and wonder how enough they missed the signs as long as they did. but all but empty house of commons said loud and clear that the powers that the allied the powers that be, the allied powers governments and powers of governments and corporations feel the corporations no longer feel the to be answerable in any meaningful way to the people . meaningful way to the people. paradoxically, their from the chamber only made them more glaringly visible. the wilful blindness about the vaccines just the tip of the iceberg. soaring excess deaths in all age groups . the complicated truth of groups. the complicated truth of the war in. ukraine still not openly discussed the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. the wholesale of our rights, the nudge away from cash and towards central bank digital currencies. people freezing in their homes and turning to food banks in what has been a world country. here's thing the emptiness . that here's thing the emptiness. that chamber was a moment of history , a warning about the future . if

, a warning about the future. if i ran, please don't care . enough i ran, please don't care. enough about harms to populations the world to turn up and listen to one of our own. then it's time we reminded the whole lot of them that we are still here . them that we are still here. they might have our hands over their eyes , but we can see them. their eyes, but we can see them. they their mouths shut. but the silence is deafening . all of silence is deafening. all of thatis silence is deafening. all of that is my opinion , of course. that is my opinion, of course. and you're free to disagree . and you're free to disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming all through the show. you can email gov.uk at gbnews.uk. you can tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll try to get some of your comments later in the. after the break, i'll speak to the author who says the global approach to climate change poverty and disease is wrong . poverty and disease is wrong. see you in 2 minutes.

welcome back , neil oliver live. welcome back, neil oliver live. i'm in the studio for the duration of the rest of the show by lord taylor of warwick and also by greg swensen , the also by greg swensen, the chairman of republicans overseas uk. welcome to you both. greg, coming you first when my monologue there was about the vaccines obviously. what you make of florida governor ron desantis announcing his plans to empanel grand jury. yeah good for him. and thank you. thank that. there's someone out there that. there's someone out there that that is going to ask these questions . it doesn't mean that questions. it doesn't mean that ron desantis anti—vax. he's he was very much anti—vaxx mandate . but he just won't tolerate big brother or big corporates or big government telling his citizens to do. and so, you know good for him that he's investigating this . it doesn't sound like he's taken firm view but he knows there has to be you know, these questions need to be asked and, you know, i think the here will

be fauci and the rest of them that not only they mislead people but they withheld information. and that's pretty obvious now there's no argument about that that that he did withhold and they just they decided that they were so powerful that they could decide what people should hear or not hear. what people should hear or not hear . and that's really hear. and that's really troublesome . look, taylor, in troublesome. look, taylor, in the house of commons, an almost empty chamber when andrew bridgen was speaking about and drawing attention to the many people hurt or dead as a result of the vaccines . no one there. of the vaccines. no one there. what does that say about the state of palm ? well, in life, if state of palm? well, in life, if we fail plan, then we plan to fail . and looking back now, we fail. and looking back now, we can that that plan , the pandemic can that that plan, the pandemic plan was imperfect. it was an overreach action. we have to have a proper inquiry. let's see what comes out of this. i am really concerned about the leadership during that time. it was a panic . leadership during that time. it was a panic. it was leadership during that time. it

was a panic . it was overreaction was a panic. it was overreaction . and what about specifically the burgeoning evidence now of people hurt people who have died as a result of taking vaccines ? as a result of taking vaccines? in many cases? for many people in the circumstances were but mandatory? well you know, more people died from abortion than covid. covid, by definition, is a virus is it doesn't want to kill you. it wants to live inside you. so many the deaths that were put down to covid had nothing to do with covid. it was heart problems dementia. strokes. what about the vaccines? i mean , i understand vaccines? i mean, i understand we are long overdue live. we are seriously and properly and attentively at what was done to people . there is a public people. there is a public inquiry and i hope it gets to the truth . i hope that matt the truth. i hope that matt hancock turns and tells the truth . greg. well, i've got truth. greg. well, i've got i cannot resist bring up with you the fact that on a fox news carlson a raised again the

allegation that the cia assassinated john f kennedy . how assassinated john f kennedy. how do you react to i'm hearing that thatis do you react to i'm hearing that that is back in circulation. if he'd said that five or ten years ago. i think you know, most of us would just shake our heads and say, oh, it's just another so—called theory. but but look look at what's happened in the last three years. and you know, we're talking about the withholding information. you know, i actually got the vaccine. i it because i clearly needit vaccine. i it because i clearly need it and but was told that this would prevent me from spreading the virus. i was going to see my in a long time and did i felt like maybe i should get it you know just to protect them as it turns as millions as millions did that would have been good information for to been good information for me to and so my children were forced to or couldn't go to to get it or they couldn't go to work to university. work or return to university. it's pretty outrageous what the government has done. so back to tucker bring this up, it would have really outrageous a while back, but if you just look at,

you know what, brennan, the former chief, you know, former cia chief, you know, talking about fauci as a national hero when here's the guy who to the american people and misled you know perhaps not only the people but misled people in the government who were making these kind of decisions . so good for ron decisions. so good for ron desantis for but it shouldn't be for an individual governor do this. it should be on a national you know it very should be so good for tucker carlson . i mean, good for tucker carlson. i mean, it was it's still outrageous. take an honest to really touch television in the way that he did. and yet and yet as you say we, live in a different world now in which surely have to be more sceptical to see he can about all aspects of government . yeah. and if we knew they hide certain things then we not assume that there's more besides that we don't know and there's so much less trust in and the institutions especially , institutions especially, unelected bureaucrats like people in the fbi and the cia and the fbi guilty as charged

for censoring information. and the twin june 20 election in the us the cia is has got some real credibility issues but also why is the jfk come out now? well, why seems to be perhaps only because something because they were this document. so the documents circulating again have to move. the fascinating topic . to move. the fascinating topic. we are as a global population failing successfully tackle the most important challenges the world. that's the view of my next guest this evening. he says our global to climate change, poverty and disease, endemic war and other threats to life and well—being . so back to front, he well—being. so back to front, he says. well—being. so back to front, he says . if our efforts were better says. if our efforts were better focussed . bjorn lomborg, author focussed. bjorn lomborg, author and president of the think tank copenhagen consensus centre, we would do much better. bjorn i think joins me now. neil, would do much better. bjorn i think joins me now . neil, thank think joins me now. neil, thank you for joining think joins me now. neil, thank you forjoining me. think joins me now. neil, thank you for joining me. joining us think joins me now. neil, thank you forjoining me. joining us , you for joining me. joining us, joan, why are we failing to achieve our goals ? these achieve our goals? these important goals are in poverty ,

important goals are in poverty, war, education. well for one reason at least, because we've just set way too many goals . so just set way too many goals. so the world decided it was going to go with what's called the sustained development goals back in 2016 and up to 2030. so we basically promised a 169 things and not just small things. we promised to eradicate poverty , promised to eradicate poverty, disease , eradicate global disease, eradicate global warming, eradicate war, get rid of bad and all other things and a lot of smaller things . well, a lot of smaller things. well, we should have more recycling . we should have more recycling. we should have, you know, parks in urban cities. these are all things. i mean, we'd love have them all, but we can't . we can't them all, but we can't. we can't have all it. and if we can't, i'm simply trying to say, let's focus where we can spend a pound and do the most good. first, i think you've said that aiming at 169 targets is no better than aiming at none except which

which resonates with me. so how do we persuade these? i would see vision and often narcissistic leaders who are vying with one another in a constant signal popularity contest . how do we persuade them contest. how do we persuade them to focus on what can actually achieved ? well, at the end of achieved? well, at the end of the day, politicians do what we applaud them to do. so if we stop applauding them every time they , make these grandiose but they, make these grandiose but almost impossible arguments like we're going to stop war everywhere , we're going to end everywhere, we're going to end poverty or , we're going to end poverty or, we're going to end climate change. look, all you can do realistically is make some effort to cut poverty or make better education, cut co2 emissions to deal with climate change and truth is, some of these efforts will be very costly and do fairly little like, for instance, what we do on climate where we can spend hundreds of billions and even

trillions and have virtually no impact even in 100 years, whereas on, for instance, on educate nation and on nutrition , we can make very targeted policies that have low cost and could have huge impacts. i'm simply saying, could have huge impacts. i'm simply saying , why don't we do simply saying, why don't we do the huge stuff first, the stuff that really that's very cheap first. so we should applaud our politicians for making the effort to policies first. what would be an example of something that's affordable that would make up a real time, real world difference for the starving millers . and that would thereby millers. and that would thereby ripple out to the wider population . what? so if you look population. what? so if you look , for instance, on education, there's about a billion kids in school, right now of 650 million of them are in developing world. so basically the lower 4 billion in terms of poverty is in the low and lower middle income countries. unfortunately about 80% of them go to schools that

are so bad, that they learn virtually . now that is one of virtually. now that is one of the requirements of making sure that can get on the ladder and they can actually start developing so that they can tackle all the problems. tackle all the other problems. and course , eventually also and of course, eventually also get fich and of course, eventually also get rich that stop worrying get so rich that stop worrying about environment and about the environment and climate , everything we climate, everything else. so we need get better education. need to get better education. there is a very proven technology which is really focusing the fact that right now and this is true in all classes and this is true in all classes and all around world but especially in the developing world, kids are fast different. so all the 12 year olds are in the same grade but they are vastly different. prosper some of them are really bored. lots them have no idea what's going on. if you put these kids in front of a tablet one hour a day, you put that tablet can adjust its learning to exactly your level and it's so cheap it'll cost about your level and it's so cheap it'll cost abou t £21 your level and it's so cheap it'll cost about £21 per year because these tablets can be shared among many kids. and what will do is basically make sure

that these kids will not just learn one year. every year they go school, but three years this for every pound spent . will for every pound spent. will deliver £54 of social good. that's an incredible investment probably about, you know, 500 times better than much of the money that we spend, for instance, on climate policy. listening to bjorn, it seems so sensible . why on earth would our sensible. why on earth would our leaders signed up to something with 169 targets on it that they have to hit between now and 2030? i mean, it's the massive amount of purchasing lying, first of all. and above bjorn's research and the pieces that the wall street journal had a series of pieces that that he wrote around cop26 last year. and it just proves the point that you know there needs to be as as both of you pointed out there needs to be focus. there absolutely needs to be focus . absolutely needs to be focus. these things are fixable. 600 million people in africa still don't have reliable electricity.

and we're about, you know, spending trillions on the climate panic. it spending trillions on the climate panic . it doesn't spending trillions on the climate panic. it doesn't make bjorn or anyone else climate. and i are their climate thinkers . but, you know, that kind of spending cost, it hurts the poor mostly. and there are so many things that we can do with money that would, you know , whether that would, you know, whether it's nutrition or , education, it's nutrition or, education, you know , only less than 20% of you know, only less than 20% of the people in malawi have internet right now. that's fixable . that's fixable with fixable. that's fixable with less than 100, $100 million in infrastructure . so, you know, infrastructure. so, you know, there are so many things that we can do. and i think that's a great point to. just to focus rather than waste . lord taylor, rather than waste. lord taylor, that that know so cheaply, that idea that know so cheaply, so affordably could alter the educational prospects of millions , millions of human millions, millions of human beings . and they would then buy beings. and they would then buy by being better educated would benefit everyone around them. well, governments try to do too many things badly. they need to focus hunger and education

should be the focus , the should be the focus, the priority. but it's the fear failure. they fear losing office. that's why they have all these and they miss most of them beyond obviously of getting , you beyond obviously of getting, you know, round agreement here . you know, round agreement here. you read your approach , you know, read your approach, you know, the nourishment children, which sounds like most fundamental object of that. we as a species could have. and again you see that a targeted approach is within our reach. yes again, remember what we work with lots of economists , several nobel of economists, several nobel laureates in economics to try to find the very best investments. and so if you just try to give food to everyone , that actually food to everyone, that actually turns out to be pretty expensive and hard to do , because you and hard to do, because you actually have to have a huge network, it's still a pretty good. network, it's still a pretty good . but what a really good good. but what is a really good idea is to make sure that you get better nutrition to pregnant

women. remember, pregnant women carrying the next generation within them and they they already get pills with acid and vitamin a sink. but we could do so much more if we replace that pill every day with a better pill every day with a better pill that has about 15 different vitamins , minerals. it'll cost vitamins, minerals. it'll cost just a fraction more, about 140, sorry , don't know. in pounds, sorry, don't know. in pounds, $140 million, not billions . $140 $140 million, not billions. $140 million every year. and you could basically help 50 million pregnant women. this would help about million of their kids. and again not only would they be better fed when they when they're born, but their brains develop more so when they go to school , they will learn more. school, they will learn more. and then when they come out in real life or afterwards in adulthood, they will be more productive and be part of this . productive and be part of this. that'll actually create more wealth, more opportunity . so wealth, more opportunity. so again, this just £1 will deliver £38 of social good. the point

that i'm trying to make is simply we're making this project together with we're funded by the gates foundation to basically focus where can you spendin basically focus where can you spend in the most effective manner. and if we can help get more realised let's do the smartest things first. that would be amazing. it seems so obvious that the and what has been what we've lost sight of our leaders have lost sight of is that we should be taking care of the people who had a life on the planet. rather than so the planet. no rather than so many objectives, these many of their objectives, these fanciful projects without fanciful vanity projects without imagining utopia for people not yet born 50 years and a hundred years to know why. why aren't there on the here and now and there on the here and now and the people who are struggling to hold onto life as we speak ? it's hold onto life as we speak? it's a good question and. again, i think you need better. we have this to paint pictures , this to paint pictures, wonderful worlds of all great things that we want. but we try to do a little boring, but important is have the economists say, well, i'm sorry , how much

say, well, i'm sorry, how much is this going to cost? how much goodisit is this going to cost? how much good is it going to do? and then what i mean, we should also be thinking future. and, you thinking the future. and, you know, education know, for instance, in education is not that's going to help today. it's going to help the future those kids will future because those kids will only out and be employed to only get out and be employed to be part of democracy , perhaps be part of democracy, perhaps ten, 20 years later. but the truth we need to start asking those very important questions. i'm sorry, how much the cost. how much good will it do? and that will help politicians not to promise everything to everyone , but to promise the everyone, but to promise the smartest things first. is it realistic to think that we can get our politicians to clean down from their vanity projects and do , you know, just do the and do, you know, just do the hard the hard yards? no so i'm a realist. i love for the world to be rational . that's not our be rational. that's not our game. we're simply to say, instead of making the world, we're just trying to make it slightly less wrong. imagine we could get politicians to at least pick one or two. we're going to come out with about 12 smart, smartest ideas for the

world. and if they will just pick or two, that would be amazing. bjorn lomborg , author amazing. bjorn lomborg, author and thinker. thank you so much for your time and your insight this evening evening . after the this evening evening. after the break, i'll discuss this decision to increase interest rates and what it means to the millions of people who have a mortgage like me . see you mortgage like me. see you shortly .

welcome back to new all a life. so scary topic coming real world stuff again . around 4 million stuff again. around 4 million mortgage holders are facing higher rates next year. last week, the bank of england raised rates from 3 to 3 and a half% the ninth increase since december 2021. half britain's homeowners coming to the end of fixed rate deals will be hit with the kind of hikes that could leave unable to cope. joining me now to discuss the

situation is estate agent jeremy leaf. thank you for that. good to see you, neil. good to see, too. what is imam ? i'm a too. what is imam? i'm a mortgage holder. is the reality for people like myself? well, it's tough out there . you're it's tough out there. you're going to remortgage this year , going to remortgage this year, that's for sure. but i it's not as tough as it have been a few months ago . and do you think months ago. and do you think what we're told, are they being realistic . are what's happening? realistic. are what's happening? is it short term and will it will ameliorate in the months ahead? or are just going to see ahead? or are just going to see a steady increase in rates like this to the point where more and more people fall off the edge of the spending wheel? well, of course, it's always very difficult predict exactly difficult to predict exactly what's to happen now. of course. but signs are that it's but the signs are that it's probably going to get little probably going to get a little bit before it gets better. bit worse before it gets better. as namesake said last week. as my namesake said last week. and i don't think that it's going to be easy a while. it's certainly not we're not going to get one to the and two percents

that we saw a year or so ago. it's more likely for the fixed rate, two and five year rates, which a lot of people are more like between four and 5. it's going to settle. but what we need to see the market to get need to see in the market to get it again that it going again is that stability, brings stability, which brings confidence but is to push confidence but is going to push a lot of people over the edge, isn't it? i mean, most people because money , free because of the cheap money, free money being lent and money that was being lent and years you know , taken as years past, you know, taken as much as they can . but even a lot much as they can. but even a lot of people are on the edge of oblivion . i mean, this is no oblivion. i mean, this is no this no gentle comedown for people, is it? it's very sad . a people, is it? it's very sad. a lot of people do spend most sometimes of what they earn or have very little . and obviously, have very little. and obviously, those people are vulnerable. on the other hand , a lot of poor the other hand, a lot of poor people did manage to save a lot. and of course, the lenders did stress a lot of the loans they gave out. so in other words, they were working on much higher rates of interest than people were actually paying. so they factored in at least two or

three percentage points beyond the rate was on offer. so hopefully will make it a little bit easier than it might have beenif bit easier than it might have been if it was just immediate change. but it's not going to be easy for a lot of people. you say. look, tale of this is real stuff. literally close to home, isn't it? i mean, it is. okay to talk about climate change. it's okay to frighten people. war okay to frighten people. but war in ukraine, life is this is in ukraine, real life is this is happening people daily. my happening to people daily. my concern this will also concern is that this will also affect let home who are affect buy to let home who are selling their houses because it's not worth you know, renting out and rents are going to go up as i understand. rents as i understand. well, rents aren't up . they aren't aren't going up. they aren't going this part the going up. and this is part the problem because course for aspiring time buyers who may have been looking forward to buy the rates going up and think oh my goodness, i can't afford to get to that level. they're renting for longer, not up the space, the spaces for other people who want to rent, which is just up rents even more,

making harder to afford to save for that deposit or even becoming later on. and this the landlords have been clobbered you're referring to. and maybe a little bit too much because a lot of leaving and that's pushing rents even more. and what frustrates me neil is that i asked a parliamentary question a few months ago but the number of empty houses and flats in britain and, it's in the thousands of empty. britain and, it's in the thousands of empty . yeah. owned thousands of empty. yeah. owned by people who don't even live here now that empty is a disgrace . we do have disgrace. we do have a fundamental problem . correct. fundamental problem. correct. only thing in this country. full stop is in a parlous state. you know, there's not enough housing. the housing that is there is not affordable for too many people. you it seems there feels like a situation that only ever gets worse. it's lot of over promising by polity for sure. i mean it seems like year they promise to build x number of homes in in the united and

continue to fail. i think planning laws are a trick tory andifs planning laws are a trick tory and it's and this is. look at california . that's that's why california. that's that's why people are moving out of california. it's not just the egregious taxation and overregulation on many other issues, but it's the housing. and you can't build homes there without, you know, going through the hell of planning. and so , the hell of planning. and so, yeah, it's probably to be worse, you know, get worse before it better. and remember, i hate to bad more bad news, but, you know, rates are still the lowest oracle average level . right so oracle average level. right so and with continued hostile city to the supply side to the private to job creators which you have here in the uk from from so—called conservative government you have it in the us that's, they're not going to liberate the supply side . all of liberate the supply side. all of all they really have is interest rates and higher interest rates to, you know, really to contract the economy. and so i think rates are going before they go lower. there any indications

that that lenders will do anything to help . well, they do anything to help. well, they do anything to help. well, they do anything they are. it's a good point , because what we anything they are. it's a good point, because what we are seeing is we're not expecting to seeing is we're not expecting to see the mass repossessions . see the mass repossessions. lenders are very much engaging with their customers and they're extending the periods for loans from maybe 20, 25 or 30 years to try and work with the mortgage the mortgage holders to ensure that they're not displace because that will only create what we don't want to see . and what we don't want to see. and that's a big change in the market, a big correction in price and prices generally. so they are they are working towards it, but as you say , towards it, but as you say, we're not building enough homes . the big problem in the housing market asked for, number one, there's not enough affordable housing to rent or to buy. and we just need to make sure that all the policies pass those tests. but i want to emphasise there are thousands of empty houses and flats in london

around the country . empty. what around the country. empty. what would you do with those ? what's would you do with those? what's your proposal? i would the taxes of the people that own them they that the russian they're live abroad and it's an for them they're happy see it empty and that's a disgrace that has to stop so the taxation on people has to go sky high. stop so the taxation on people has to go sky high . what is the has to go sky high. what is the state of the housing market beyond what you've already said you know what are estate agents what are the you know, what are the people who make their livings, marketplace seeing livings, the marketplace seeing about situation? about this burgeoning situation? well, what's happening is that transactions are going down. they're taking longer because there's hesitance . you there's more hesitance. you know, the budget , it felt know, the mini budget, it felt like someone pulled the plugs out the computers and the phones . it went really quiet . existing . it went really quiet. existing business, state owned business become became more challenging for those in the industry it's been it's been tough from that point view as well but now new business slowly coming back as a

bit more confidence builds. but we can see a longer term return to stability . not going to to stability. not going to happen. i just if it doesn't reach a point , people are face reach a point, people are face to face with what's the reality of the situation that putin by the system, you know , i mean to the system, you know, i mean to buy a house in this country, you're effectively by five houses, you know, when it comes to repaying your mortgage , what to repaying your mortgage, what point do people say hold on a minute? the whole thing , the way minute? the whole thing, the way money is governed , this country, money is governed, this country, you know, with fractional reserve banking, with the way in which laid the way in which money laid out, the way in which money laid out, the way in which created of which money is created out of thin you know , the thin air, you know, the borrowing inverted of money borrowing in inverted of money to buy a house is just a part of a much bigger, would say, rotten situation . yeah, but you just situation. yeah, but you just have to look back on history, would you rather pay your mortgage than your landlord's people would rather do that . and people would rather do that. and they can see the history of pnces they can see the history of prices and values rising, consistent over time. may maybe not so rapidly as in the past,

but certainly it's a better bet. generally, we, a small country, we don't have many and the government are not particularly keen to, build rapidly with successive governments been. so that means that prices seem to go just one way and that's why people want to continue a situation that you would see in short is going to get worse. it gets any better. i think we need to sometimes when things do happen badly as they are in lots of areas and places and types of property , that's sometimes a way property, that's sometimes a way for people to say, hey, we can't keep the same thing again. we have to find another way. jeremy we you so much for your contribution . it was coming on contribution. it was coming on to another break after i'll meet this week's great britain , a this week's great britain, a woman with a spinal cord injury who's aiming swim more than 20 miles for a charity. i'll be back in 2 minutes

welcome to neil oliver live . my welcome to neil oliver live. my great britain this week has herself the challenge of swimming. the of the english channel. impressive enough for most . jenny hudson from lawford most. jenny hudson from lawford in essex is swimming a distance of 22 miles, despite a spinal injury that can her to a wheelchair. all of the will raise funds and help support others who've suffered injuries her own. and jenny , me now, i her own. and jenny, me now, i hope. good evening . hello hello. hope. good evening. hello hello. thank you for being with us. tell me, first of all, about your own . thank you. tell me, your own. thank you. tell me, first of all, about own injury. what happened when i say this happened seven years ago and i fell off a horse and broke my back in several places in my neck and various bits and damage my spine, a t5 which is sort of chest level and first of all, what was it like ? has it been what was it like? has it been

like adjusting life since your accent? i can only imagine an injury like yours effectively . injury like yours effectively. area of life . oh unbelievably area of life. oh unbelievably more so than could possibly imagine . and it's easy. you imagine. and it's easy. you start off thinking it's . you'll start off thinking it's. you'll be the one that will defy odds and walk . you'll be the one that and walk. you'll be the one that will be able to get out of this chair and then you start you realise that you're not. and it's incredibly frustrating and you know, there's , there's a you know, there's, there's a lot. everything takes so much going to the loo take so time you know all the, all the everyday things take so much time but you know, you just got to get on and do it. there's a lot of people out there far lot of people out there with far worse off than i. i've got great thoughts. my husband, i got married month before accident, married a month before accident, so that was a bit of a blow. and but, you know, i've been i'm really lucky because i got great support from friends, my husband and he took over my mortgage , and he took over my mortgage, supported me all the way. so i'm

lucky. and that's why as far as i good. and i want to support them because they support people who don't have sort of structures i've got and they provide and support with substitute subsidies you can get and allowances you can get so yeah there's all that and yes your life changes an overnight was swimming has swimming been part you know as a broader therapy was that part of you coming back to the world your injury . and if i didn't know injury. and if i didn't know swimming i've always i've always been quite fit . i've been swimming i've always i've always been quite fit. i've been riding so i've always been fit. and because swimming is always such a good, especially women of a certain you know, you want certain age, you know, you want low impact exercise. so i was determined keep fit. did a determined to keep fit. i did a bit of and rehab and i tried to find swimming around . i lived find swimming around. i lived but there was nothing it all the pools were too cold. the was really difficult the changing were impossible. so my husband

luckily is a builder. so we did the from the back of the backpack and go actually can make this work if we build a facility that we can rent out i can use it will pay for itself and we'll get others using it. so we did just that . so that's so we did just that. so that's why i did the swimming challenge . it was on my doorstep and. you know, it's and it's is easy for me to do . and it's that's the me to do. and it's that's the thing . take it is that where thing. take it is that where you're doing your 22 mile as it were cross—channel swim in that that you and your husband have not done it you know we've done it oh you're starting you've just completed it. yeah we're in france on our way back now according j who i did it with who helps you run the pool says she thinks we ought to back . so she thinks we ought to back. so we're on our way back . but no, we're on our way back. but no, we're on our way back. but no, we did it in the pool. 120 lengths in the pool is a mile so it a sort of we had to be concentrate and it but and good

i mean people in the pool really support it there's a lot of children with disabilities who use the pool but they swim with their siblings and they're on a level playing field so . it's level playing field so. it's a great atmosphere there and a great atmosphere there and a great swimming's a great bringing together and a leveller for many people and we've got lots more ladies who swim . you lots more ladies who swim. you know, they've had separate operations , don't want to go to operations, don't want to go to pubuc operations, don't want to go to public because they're public pool because they're embarrassed. up and embarrassed. so they walk up and down and it's a safe environment they did fear of falling in. they did no fear of falling in. you know, it's safe and it's and dignified . the charity i think dignified. the charity i think is aspire channel swim . how many is aspire channel swim. how many people take on the challenge like that you have no completed i think i think this year there were over 50 across the country doing it and this is an annual challenge it's first time i came across it was this year but an annual challenge that they do and i think they raise a lot of money doing it. i first started

doing i did a challenge when the marathon at the beginning of covid because the marathon be run so lot of charities were doing it can you do 22 something so i did 22 lengths for one charity 22 it's another i've always quite a strong swimmer. so swimming's, you know, it's something i can do . so it's something i can do. so it's a good, good way of getting awareness to swimming and getting awareness and raising money. so charities and how much your virtual channel swim have raised for aspire channel swim respond we've raised, i think three and a half thousand pounds this way. but now we're on way back and i think we've got to fee wages for the return journey .jenny fee wages for the return journey . jenny hudson you're definitely a great britain. i'm always amazed and impressed and uplifted people who go through something like that, which you have gone through and yet , something like that, which you have gone through and yet, apart from thinking about themselves , from thinking about themselves, you've gone on and thought about the bigger picture. so that

always me personally a great deal of cheer . thank you, jenny deal of cheer. thank you, jenny hudson. and best of luck with the that with swimming from the with that with swimming from france as it were thank you very much and thank you for raising for this fire and a great always always and doing our pleasure great uplifting . yeah. i mean great uplifting. yeah. i mean i mean all very well to i as a strong swimmer but when something like that happens to you . you have to learn to swim you. you have to learn to swim again. know , swim with it. again. you know, swim with it. you learn to walk again and, you know, her turn know, good for her to turn it into positive raise some into a positive and raise some money good. so, you know, money for a good. so, you know, that's great that's that's fantastic great story swimming know story but yeah swimming you know i myself for health i do it myself for health reasons and it's pleasant you know and she mentioned you know, the some of the challenges especially if you're older but you know so good for her and her husband for building the building the infrastructure that's required and it just goes to show it's not only happens to you in life it's how you to it and is a great and she's and jenny's is a great and she's so modest about chief i know

just so matter fact as so many of the great britain's that we talk to are you they describe in such simple ways sometimes life changing events and then i got that out of the way . yeah that out of the way. yeah i know. then i was able to contribute back to society i find it you know i find astonishing is the power of the human that's why i'm optimistic about the future of . this about the future of. this nation, despite governments , nation, despite governments, despite government. you get that printed on a t—shirt. it's time for another break. but there's lots on the way between now and 8:00. i'll the uk continues to be hit by low temperatures. i'll talk about whether we could have the christmas the fabled white christmas this year we'll out about year and we'll find out about the tragedy that helped to the tragedy that helped lead to the tragedy that helped lead to the of royal national the creation of royal national lifeboat institution . and if lifeboat institution. and if you're very good girls and boys we might be joined in the studio santa very exciting scene santa a very exciting scene a few minutes .

welcome back to neil oliver live on the way in the next hour one of the country's favourite will tell me whether we're for in a white christmas or not. find out about the children's charity in the midlands that could soon be homeless. and will santa be joining us in the studio? and you'll have to tuned to find out. all coming up before 8:00. but now it's time for latest news headlines with bethenny . news headlines with bethenny. neal news headlines with bethenny. neal. thank you. you evening. i am bethenny lc with your top from the gb newsroom. police have released the first pictures of a woman who died being injured in a crowd crash at the brixton o2 academy . 33 year old brixton o2 academy. 33 year old rebecca akumu from newham in east london was injured when

ticket the fans tried to force their way into the music venue. two of the women, aged 21 and 23, remain a critical condition in hospital . the nigerian in hospital. the nigerian artist, ishak. he was performing that night, says he's devastated by the incident and overwhelmed with grief . nhs are warning with grief. nhs are warning hospitals must free up beds ahead of planned industry action by ambulance crews in england that urging the government and unions to resolve the pay dispute . the first day of action dispute. the first day of action on wednesday . nhs data shows one on wednesday. nhs data shows one in six patients are waiting more an hour to be transferred from to a&e . while former cabinet to a&e. while former cabinet minister dr. liam fox, who worked as a gp , says the system worked as a gp, says the system needs an overhaul . and one of needs an overhaul. and one of our problems is that we have so many occupying acute beds in acute hospitals which are expensive very intensive for staff and they really don't need to be there. we need, in my view, to go back to our colleagues, sets of convalescent

hospitals . and i think that we hospitals. and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting the appropriate care because got people because if you've got people occupying those acute beds who don't there , it don't need to be there, it doesn't how much money don't need to be there, it doezpour how much money don't need to be there, it doezpour the how much money don't need to be there, it doezpour the system,1uch money don't need to be there, it doezpour the system, you're oney don't need to be there, it doezpour the system, you're not( you pour the system, you're not going output that's going to get the output that's appropriate for that . the nurses appropriate for that. the nurses union is the health secretary's macho negotiating style is hindering efforts to resolve their pay dispute . the royal their pay dispute. the royal college of nursing is accusing steve barclay of undervaluing nurses because the profession is 90% female, while general secretary is urging the prime minister to step in ahead of further action planned on tuesday . the union has been tuesday. the union has been asking for a 19% pay rise but says they would consider any new offer travellers a facing more delays on the railways of the rmt rail union. the fourth day of strikes this week. trains are starting later than usual and finishing earlier with some parts of the country having no service all. bus drivers in london also continuing their 48 hour strike, adding to the

travel disruption . the met travel disruption. the met office has issued yellow weather warnings and is expecting ice for much of scotland, wales, north and southwest england. it as blizzards are set to sweep the north of the country this weekend. temperatures could rise on sunday, but frost is expected to create difficult road conditions . on tv, online and db conditions. on tv, online and db plus radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to . let's get back to. neil welcome back . in our wonderful welcome back. in our wonderful northern allotted , we tend to be northern allotted, we tend to be a bit obsessed with. the idea of a bit obsessed with. the idea of a white christmas . bing crosby a white christmas. bing crosby famously dreamt of it. and christmas cards advent calendars. and one christmas movie after another persuade us that snow is a synonym with the season. however, since 1960,

according to the met official definition but has only been a white christmas four times 1981, 1985, 2009 and 2010. find it hard . believe myself. even hard. believe myself. even though i look at those numbers. my though i look at those numbers. my next should offer a better guess. my next should offer a better guess . most weatherman and guess. most weatherman and legend john ketley . hello, john legend john ketley. hello, john ketley . good evening to you, ketley. good evening to you, neil. thanks building up my part. oh it's one. every time i hear your voice , it just. it hear your voice, it just. it just it. it takes me. it takes me places , time. i hear you me places, time. i hear you speak. john, it's great to see. so what do you reckon what are the chances for a 2022 adding to the chances for a 2022 adding to the tally of white? well, i suppose i should get my excuses in early, shouldn't i really ? in early, shouldn't i really? it's very much up in the air still. you know, we've got to say after what, three weeks of tumbling temperatures and now extremely icy everywhere , extremely icy everywhere, there's worse weather to come in there's worse weather to come in

the next 24 hours. that really is going to be bad tomorrow. in many parts of uk, there's many parts of the uk, there's going be freezing rain, ice, going to be freezing rain, ice, heavy before it heavy snowfall before it eventually turns to rain. and then it milder later the day. then it milder later in the day. so some pretty nasty weather coming up in the 24 hours, coming up in the next 24 hours, but cold now for quite a but it's cold now for quite a long time . and the bookies got long time. and the bookies got wind of this and started a dropping the odds to about 2 to 1. and that's where it stands the moment, i think even for glasgow edinburgh 2 to 1 on glasgow and edinburgh 2 to 1 on a white christmas. of course a white christmas. but of course there's weird than there's nothing more weird than there's nothing more weird than the british weather . you the british weather. and you know, soon day follows know, as soon as day follows night, we're going to find night, then we're going to find that in, that the milder comes back in, everything turns back rain. everything turns back to rain. there's flooding of there's going to be flooding of more heavy rain coming in from the south and the likelihood is now, it's probably now, neil, that it's probably not be white christmas now, neil, that it's probably not from be white christmas now, neil, that it's probably not from on e white christmas now, neil, that it's probably not from on the 1ite christmas now, neil, that it's probably not from on the trossachs mas apart from on the trossachs parts of northern scotland. maybe the tops of the pennines and, the cumbrian fells. so i think we're for in green christmas parts the christmas over most parts of the country say, i've got country but as i say, i've got my excuses early. it's still eight days away for the for the met what is nowadays the

definition of a white christmas would enable a person to collect at the bookies . well of course at the bookies. well of course originally historically it was one flake of snow or bit of sleet, even bit of snow in with some rain on the am industry in london. and that's what that's what qualified as a white quite obtuse really quite weird and of course that doesn't a white christmas over scotland it could be absolutely deep and crisp and even but these days you can't actually do a bet. have a bet . actually do a bet. have a bet. the different airports around the country ranging from aberdeen in north, right the way down to cardiff and southampton probably in the south, it's got to have a little bit of sleet or snow falling within that 24 hour period. midnight to midnight. and observer has got to be and the observer has got to be out watching for it . what, out there watching for it. what, in are scientific factors in fact, are scientific factors that need to come together to make it happen . well, make it happen. well, temperatures are certainly to be below about one or two degrees c , and that's where they feel to

have been for about the past ten days. you know, it's not surprising had snow recently, but a heavy fall of snow in the south—east england just a week or so ago . but south—east england just a week or so ago. but it has to be very cold, obviously we've got to cold, obviously, we've got to get sleet or but having get sleet or snow, but having said actually see said that, you can actually see hail forming and developing from temperatures of about degrees. if conditions were right, even in parts of the late summer into the autumn or springtime, you get hail that would probably get hail and that would probably qualify as a christmas as qualify as a white christmas as well if it actually fell on the upper articular vantage point . upper articular vantage point. but on the whole, it's really got to be something one or two degrees above freezing at the very and more likely just freezing with some snow actually falling on the ground ground . falling on the ground ground. greg, as an observer of britain, as much i could expect in this time and place, what do you make of our obsession with a white christmas. it's a good obsession to have because a white christmas is a great it's just it looks better and feels

better. you know, we my wife and i met mary ellen snow for sure, and specially around christmas time. but having lived in chicago for most my adult life, i don't miss the cold. so, you know, we might be one of the few that moved to london because of the weather not in spite of it. so look it would be nice but i'm not optimistic . i've looked at not optimistic. i've looked at the weather report just like our guest and it's not good lord taylor text and wife what what does she make what does she in this preoccupation we have with the snow. i think she likes the snow but it's not isn't it someone once said that in this country we have two seasons this and next winter . some ways i'm and next winter. some ways i'm hoping we don't have a white christmas because it mean it'll be colder and people are concerned about their heating bills and energy bills. it's nice to look out . we have to pay nice to look out. we have to pay for it by putting the heat on. john it's a point, isn't it? you know, when you when you away from what it looks like , you from what it looks like, you know, as real world for people ,

know, as real world for people, you know, especially now with with the lockdown a post lockdown crisis and the other challenges that people are facing , it's maybe a better look facing, it's maybe a better look at and experience, the white christmas, but having said that, climate change obviously is on everybody's lips . our white everybody's lips. our white christmas is more or less now in our part of the world than in the past . my our part of the world than in the past. my lips our part of the world than in the past . my lips obviously need the past. my lips obviously need i don't like this phrase climate change. i've always believed that the climate's always changing of a certain period of time. it might be weeks, months, years decades . as far as i'm years or decades. as far as i'm concerned. what we've got at the is of global warming is a period of global warming which may not be natural which may or may not be natural . but yes you'd expect that the chance of a white, however bizarre it might be out of a romantic notion it might is much less these days. and it was even 20 odd years ago. i think all this kicked in really about 1998 when we suddenly started getting some warmer weather and we these stories about how the ten warmest years have all occurred

in the past decade or 20 years, should we say? which is absolutely as as got absolutely true as far as got the figures but they only the figures for. but they only back about 150 years so it's not really a very lengthy period, is it, neil? sure you agree it, neil? i'm sure you agree with well i do, absolutely with that? well i do, absolutely . i mean, since you since you raised the subject on the spot, i don't believe there's a climate crisis at all. i said climate crisis at all. i said climate change and i accept that climate change and i accept that climate has been changing, you know, since since the you know, since the beginning the beginning of the was having an atmosphere. i think it's just in the nature it and you know, as i've always it we are in a we're in interglacial deal between in an interglacial deal between ice at moment . oh in an interglacial deal between ice at moment. oh yeah. ice ages at the moment. oh yeah. you know when you back to the ice age which would be a few too few thousand years before that happens again. and let's face it, neil, the 2010 december, which actually was the most severely cold and snowy that we've had in records going back in england until 1659 that wasn't more than about a week or so earlier came out the blue a

lot of people would think it was most unlikely ever happen and it's probably this or this three week spell that we've got now is a little bit of a bolt from the blue and many people would think that we're just on a warming curve, which certainly not curve, which we're certainly not 40 we had during 40 degrees that we had during the which was extremely the summer, which was extremely high and hot weather may not be repeated now for several. who knows? we can't predict it . so knows? we can't predict it. so it isn't a one trick pony. i've said before many times on gb news isn't a one trick pony for every hot spell we're going to get a cold spell, maybe fewer cold spells than we've seen recently , but you know the recently, but you know the weather is a wonderful thing. i'll deal with the weather and not the climate is too complicated. look i think you had something you wanted to answer the song white christmas song by bing crosby was written irving berlin in, the middle of a heatwave in california yeah. no, it's not. yes, but i have to say, as the years have gone on, ihave say, as the years have gone on, i have become more more drawn to

white christmas . the movie of my white christmas. the movie of my wife has been watching it two or three times every christmas season for all the time known her, and gradually, by a process a smooth this just to have absorbed an affection that movie. and when bing. and when bing sings white christmas , it bing sings white christmas, it definitely works for me . but definitely works for me. but greg, i was going to say what , greg, i was going to say what, do you make of the climate crisis debate? where do you sit that broad scale? yeah, i'm more with are in your earlier bjorn on you know the obviously there's you know for conservation i'm for you know doing the right thing around pollution but this climate alarmism is costing would crisis the media loves the word crisis yeah look you know if solar if solar energy is cheaper than, you know, whatever they're using now, for example, we're looking at a project in puerto rico where they're using diesel. well yeah we'd rather use solar than

diesel but we would not you know if solar is more expensive than natural gas mean natural gas just in general has liberated the world from poverty and, you know, we need more of it, not less. less of it . and if it's less. less of it. and if it's plant food. exactly mean and look at what's you know in the last few because of the climate alarmism you've seen massive increase in energy prices know the debacle in germany obviously but but here in the uk as and real hostility to the energy sector in in the us who suffers from that it's poor people it's poor and working people you know whether you know petrol a you know higher 60% higher than it was two years ago, which it is in the us and it's the same here. is that going to change my life. not really. whole covid thing in the war in ukraine has forced to look to the future forced us to look to the future and we'll come through the

strong. no doubt about strong. i've got no doubt about this, it is interesting, this, john it is interesting, isn't it, that as you mentioned the hot days in the summertime and there was wall to wall coverage of it so much alarmism around it and. you know, this is around it and. you know, this is a portent doom and all the a portent of doom and all the rest it. now going rest of it. we're now going through intense cold through some pretty intense cold happening you happening to people and you i think 500,000 people die every year of the heat and. four and a half million people die every year of the cold. it's interesting isn't, to say the least, that the headlines aren't really paying attention to fact that it's very, very cold at the moment . it's strange how some go moment. it's strange how some go very quiet as soon as we have cold spell, but they're out there all the time there when we get hotter and, that's the end of the world as we knew it. you know, i'm a little sceptical know, i'm a little bit sceptical that well, i'm all for that we're well, i'm all for i was quoting carl sagan earlier, he , i've always kept it as a he, i've always kept it as a mantra that he insists on on you know aggressive enthusiastic scepticism at all times relation

to science because that's how we get by remaining to new ideas the time and sceptical and is the time and sceptical and is the order of the day john weatherman and legend thank you so much for me this evening. my pleasure . great stuff . after the pleasure. great stuff. after the break, i'll find out about the charity that helps children with complex and learning disabilities that could soon be left homeless . come back in left homeless. come back in 3 minutes, please .

welcome back to new all our life. a staffordshire charity providing a vital lifeline for 400 children and young adults is to lose its whole liberty jamboree supports youngsters with complex physical and learning disabilities. but the forced closure of its staff watcher base has left them in urgent need . a new property. urgent need. a new property. maggie is the ceo and she joins

me now along her daughter lucy and. we'll also hear from sarah and. we'll also hear from sarah and page, whose child, shelby is also presently making this of liberty jamboree. hello maggie and lucy , do you work ? yes, i'm and lucy, do you work? yes, i'm very well. thank you for. making time for us this evening. maggie, just tell me, first of all, about work of liberty jamboree . okay. so liberty jamboree. okay. so liberty formed itself . just over seven formed itself. just over seven years ago as , a response to the years ago as, a response to the closure youth services across staffordshire . and we set up staffordshire. and we set up liberty to support those youth clubs that were opened for young people with special educational needs and. since it has. people with special educational needs and. since it has . just. needs and. since it has. just. we've run four days a week and. seven nights a week. and we work at weekends offering over 18 provisions. and throughout week, we work from the of eight up to

35, offering a variety different projects. sports arts and outings . and presumably that outings. and presumably that explosion of youth and need only indicative of how many people there are in need of the services . the sort that liberty services. the sort that liberty can offer . absolutely i mean, can offer. absolutely i mean, for me , you know, young people for me, you know, young people who don't have any sort of barriers through learning or physical barriers are able to go out and socialise independently in a community and is the difference for many of our members is they don't have opportunity to go out they have the opportunity to go to a local club or to go to down a local park independently . and that's park independently. and that's why our services so vital because offers the young people a place to go with qualified experienced that will support them but . our experienced that will support them but. our aim is then to grow them, to teach them the skills to support them so that

events they may have more independence . but until they get independence. but until they get that unity to practise, they learn those skills. so this is why it's so vital . we have an why it's so vital. we have an opportunity that we do with to be able to sort of support young people, little lucy. what does liberty mean to . what have you liberty mean to. what have you been able to gain and how have you from its existence . lucy's you from its existence. lucy's not my daughter, so she's going to be explained . but she is only to be explained. but she is only hoping i've been given i've been given a slightly . steve and given a slightly. steve and lucy. sorry i'm sorry. hear lucy. sorry i'm sorry. hear lucy. what does what has what's been your experience . liberty been your experience. liberty jamboree then . well i sort of jamboree then. well i sort of came to it and i didn't it to and i then the men became my and trying use that to but it's been something you've benefited from . in

something you've benefited from. in property that the charity has using and how come to pass that you're no longer going be able to take advantage of . okay so to take advantage of. okay so where we are at the moment is the statue county council building is an excuse. the club actually and where it's based it's actually and where it's based wsfime actually and where it's based it's time for a redevelopment so they are building a health centre and you know and i'm totally in support of that . but totally in support of that. but isuppose totally in support of that. but i suppose for me i believe that every young person deserves to have this space too. and i believe that young people with disabilities deserve even greater because of risk and the vulnerability that they have within their communities. it's a really sad that it's going and i understand that the county council have got to , but we just council have got to, but we just need a space to go somewhere so that we continue and grow . we that we continue and grow. we offer over 57 hours. sorry we offer over 57 hours. sorry we

offer over 57 hours. sorry we offer over 57 hours of youth work and a week to over hundred and 50 young people a week so it's vital that we do continue . it's vital that we do continue. so presumably you very much want to hear from anybody in the in the, in the general area that has access and could and could under some circumstances be to accommodate liberty . absolutely accommodate liberty. absolutely absolutely. i mean, liberty , absolutely. i mean, liberty, myself and my colleague obama . myself and my colleague obama. great. sort of getting funding bids in work can we though the sponsors and so i'm not afraid work hard to get the funding to build a new building or to a redevelopment opportune to say it's just where we've looked so far with the restrictions of covid and with looming sort of recession that's come in everything we look at although with of quite healthy for a small charity it would actually within six months it would probably take all our reserves

our funding away because of the of the increase of everything this just about to happen really . look, taylor, it's frustrating to hear, isn't it? you know , to hear, isn't it? you know, we're constantly told about how many millions and billions are spent on sprayed on the wall and overseas for, you know one project after another. and there's you 400 young people obviously benefiting from whole families upon something that is, you know, has modest needs when you know, has modest needs when you get right down to it. and yet it it's facing this kind of existential threat. what i like, first of all, is the name liberty . so positive . but you liberty. so positive. but you see the mistake. i think you're making is always looking to government for solutions. the solutions come from people like these, these are real heroes and heroines and is a partnership because government tries do too much badly . because government tries do too much badly. it needs to have a partnership with . the community partnership with. the community nowadays . honestly, lord taylor nowadays. honestly, lord taylor i don't to government for anything i look to the government to look the other way

and let me go on my life. but what i'm saying is we need clear. but the whole structure of, our community, our nation, it's between it's partnership between government people. not government and people. it's not just government, you know, government can't just be if you like a sticking plaster , you like a sticking plaster, you know, absolutely. government needs get everybody's way and let people get on with it. but maggie and lucy thank you for being with us so far evening. and i'm now going to see sarah and rob are there at the moment. hello, sarah and rob. thank you. this working seamlessly so far. what does liberty jamboree to you . try to it's a lifeline you. try to it's a lifeline really she has all her social activities there she has she she has activities that with life skills sporting activities all friendships are there and she's just able to it gives you the opportunity to be with people

who are who similar to her and she can be herself there who are her showbiz needs? what is it that she gets from liberty, that she is otherwise unavailable to hold on to you as a family so you shall has a learning disability and she doesn't have any she she just has a learning . so she's a very social young lady and really to socialise and independence but obviously she's very vulnerable as well . so very vulnerable as well. so liberty gives us that security and that safety that she can go and that safety that she can go and socialise be a young person about 18 but in a very safe and that's the same for a lot of our family. it's very safe. it's of an extended family and as you can appreciate, as parents , you can appreciate, as parents, you know, you very particular love who you trust your child because

of that vulnerability aspect. so beyond your your very close family , it's quite difficult family, it's quite difficult then to allow your child to be independent, but they shall be craves that independence . and craves that independence. and she's quite in from the age of 11 actually when . we moved into 11 actually when. we moved into the area. she's grown with liberty and she's now 18. so she's just moved into the liberty jamboree . they go on liberty jamboree. they go on cooking , they go to festivals, cooking, they go to festivals, it go we to i and i really can't explain to you what that means to us as a family and actually shall be we'll openly say mum and dad and of you. but i love being with my friends and friends are liberty and her extended social life is limited liberty . and that's the thing . liberty. and that's the thing. know in my introduction i mentioned 400 or more than 400 children and young people , but children and young people, but it's 400 plus families because the contribution that liberty is

able to make is affecting of your lives is an actually you know to go into an environment to meet families in a likewise to meet families in a likewise to meet families in a likewise to me situation you do gain support from each other. so whilst our young people have that peer support, we that family support and maggie and i team next that family support you know it's sort of the next steps for my team where they go from college, where do they go from college, where do they go from , you know, when they finish from, you know, when they finish college or the projects around liberty type provision. so need work so to create those integrated partnerships that then lead on to voluntary opportun niches, they lead on to, you know, employment all young guys this year were of the commonwealth opening then now you know auditioning for britain's got talent opportunities don't come with a lot of provisions out and liberty a very unique in in

promoting that normality within safe environment for our people and what is the is that a ticking clock on this i mean of course is how how long has liberty got where is the moment before another premises becomes a vital need . and so at the a vital need. and so at the minute they're asking us to be out by april so we have as a parents group we formed a parent's group whom we have been asking the local county councillors , you know, come and councillors, you know, come and talk to us i think are our feeling is they've really dehumanise the situation, they're talking about a building actually . this isn't about actually. this isn't about a building, this is 400 families who , you know, need this who, you know, need this provision every day. they need this respite . young people are this respite. young people are worthy of more than a build so actually the people that we to the local who are responsible

for send the education, health and care the local are not responding that they're thinking about a building actually we as parents to know how are you going to provide our young people if liberty stop talking a building we're talking young people here who deserve more you know they're already underserved within our if there are if there's anyone out there who's listening to this and, you know, and has part of the whole to what you're looking for, how best to get in touch with you. you yeah. so if they can get in touch with this fire. maggie, you know at liberty there's you know at liberty if there's that because the other thing that because the other thing that we're facing is we have been on a peppercorn rent . we been on a peppercorn rent. we are very grateful for that. but if we have to move to commercial property . is if we have to move to commercial property. is our finances a great day to day, week to week, but then we put in in, you know , more financial sort

constraints. if there's anybody out there who's willing to work with us and don't no, please, please get . in touch. we we're please get. in touch. we we're a wonderful organisation to work with and we give so much back. you ten fold. i young people are soup. you ten fold. i young people are soup . that's that's wonderful soup. that's that's wonderful wonderful pitch you've made there. they're just .com for such little tea jamboree it's there on the street light on the screen and i wish you the very best of luck. it seems inconceivable that an organisation making such a positive contribution can be allowed to do anything but go from to strength rather from strength to strength rather than say thank you very much for your time of luck. thanks a lot. thank chairs another is upon us. and after that i'll, find out about the tragedy 200 years ago that helped lead to the creation of the royal lifeboat institution . back in 3 minutes, institution. back in 3 minutes, please please .

welcome back once more to neil oliver live tomorrow when gb news bring you an exclusive interview with jacob rees—mogg, the man who once branded the member of parliament for the 18th century, opened up to gloria de p&o. what does rees—mogg do to relax ? well, how rees—mogg do to relax? well, how do you do on a pair of jeans, a pair of joggers when i'm bored. relax. i gatehouse comes and i lie down on the front bench. well, what else would you do do ? funny. do you have a pair of jeans or a pericles. i did. what would i do with them ? you can would i do with them? you can watch the full interview with jacob rees—mogg on gloria meets from 6 pm. tomorrow and there will also be interviews with the former conservative chief whip, wendy morton . the former tory wendy morton. the former tory minister liam , fox. it is 200 minister liam, fox. it is 200 years since each racehorse , a years since each racehorse, a british ship of war sign off the isle of man . she was en route

isle of man. she was en route from holyhead douglas when she struck reef of rocks to rescue attempt that followed in which nine lives were lost is credited as part of the for the creation of royal national lifeboat institution . now a new institution. now a new exhibition will tell the story of that night and of the life saving instance that emerged from the tragedy. for my chief minister for the isle of man, tony brown, has been closely involved with the effort and he joins me now. hello, tony. hi, neal joins me now. hello, tony. hi, neal. hi. this is a this is a story that's that's close to me for lots of reasons, not because i'm such a i've always been a huge admirer of the unique creation that is the rnli. but tell me, first of all, what happened what happened on that night of the 14th of december 18, 22? well, the brink of war racehorse was sailing to and it from the size of the island going past castle and of course,

it was dark. it was in wind. and unfortunately , the pilot misread unfortunately, the pilot misread light and they ended up running aground off lyness point, which is just on the peninsula of castletown . and the ship started castletown. and the ship started to say the fault from castletown men on board castletown men sailed out in the rough seas. try and save those on board and the 98 of the crew and marines on board survived the loss. but unfortunately on the last roll, one of the boats turned over and. there was a loss of nine lives. three of whom were castletown men. is this a well known story on the isle? actually, it isn't. it's one of those stories that sort of with time over 200 years. there's not really a lot about it. it came to light because some local divers in the sixties, early seventies , started looking for seventies, started looking for the wreck. and they found and

they then raised items from the wreck. they bought the wreck of the admiralty. and the stuff was all brought . the bits that they all brought. the bits that they got and all the guns . and that got and all the guns. and that gave it some publicity . but it's gave it some publicity. but it's one of those things that's never been much highlighted. but course, the incident was a tragedy. naturally the implications and what followed actually had a major implications for the british isles and in fact further afield . now the british and the british have always had a very strong affection , the rnli and strong affection, the rnli and in point of fact, it's actually hard to imagine a time when it did exist , hard to imagine a time when it did exist, but of course it had to come from somewhere. so in what we did the loss of racehorse inspired or led to the creation of the royal national lifeboat institution. well the isle of man is an island located in the middle of the irish sea between england and wales and

what happened was to william hillery , who you may well know hillery, who you may well know was a resident there , he had was a resident there, he had been trying to promote some of life saving organisation for mariners and he built what we call the tower refuge, which was a place for people to go when the ships ran aground, which they did. don't forget, sailboats in those days didn't necessarily control where they would because of wind . would go because of the wind. and when this incident happened, he was aware of and he then he was aware of it and he then petitioned the british parliament for a organise session to be set up, called a of well, it became their own national lifeboat institution. but he called a maritime life saving organised asian bridge to say if needed to be put in place. and he was eventually successful on that and that then evolved into what we call the rnli, who will be their 200 years in 2024 .

rnli, who will be their 200 years in 2024. no. what will visitors encounter ? the visitors encounter? the exhibition ? well, the exhibition exhibition? well, the exhibition there are stories of the racehorse. there's a model of the racehorse which is only recently been made. there are a number of artefacts that are there. bits of gordon's cannonballs . there's even an cannonballs. there's even an elephant tusk which found on the wreck, and they don't really why that was there on the ship. and there's all of items that they used to use and some of them very similar to what we use today in certain areas of our business. so there's lots of little bits. i mean, we've only got a portion of it's our exhibition, the items that are many, many items are held by our museum . but the museum national, museum. but the museum national, in fact, the, the, the portraits and most of this reaching for.

0h and most of this reaching for. oh i think we've lost we've lost 22. i get it's this is a great example isn't it, of a, of an organisation came spontaneously from people . yeah. no government from people. yeah. no government recognise in a neat and persuade the powers that be to a great story helping but you know it started with tragedy either . yes started with tragedy either. yes but and not it's not big government it's as you know edmund burke , you know called it edmund burke, you know called it the platoons know life's little platoons. it's family it's your civic organisations , your local civic organisations, your local sports teams or whatever look at the things in common with with , the things in common with with, you know, rnli and you know, which we talked about earlier. i mean, these are both fantastic organisations born, you know , organisations born, you know, locally and developed locally and funded privately or funded with yes. and also charitable or that was painful . became that was painful. became powerful. sure yes. turned the negative into a positive i appreciate the need for a

partnership not to get me wrong but i think what's really important is the recognition that people the ground are the ones who actually know what's needed. of course the rnli came from some right or from the red going people on the coast who who lived that life and knew the that was regularly being charged by the sea for lives lived it and it was not it was that grassroots on the ground bottom up kind of organising that mattered . what the point i'm mattered. what the point i'm trying to make the stone age didn't end because we run out of stone . it ended because man stone. it ended because man developed new ideas and inventions . developed new ideas and inventions. but you do need developed new ideas and inventions . but you do need the inventions. but you do need the partnership , the people. yes and partnership, the people. yes and government. you need leaders at national level. but it can't be run from number 10 downing street. and there's no dating the rnli as evolved is another treasure that's envied around the world. you imagine other places have an on an ally, but they don't . you get a lifesaving

they don't. you get a lifesaving organisations, but the rnli is particularly special and acutely a tweaked to the needs of this part of the world. and it's i mean it's a perfect organisation for an island nation course but you know, talk about brave . i you know, talk about brave. i mean these these sailors are really brave. i mean, they lost nine people just, you know , from nine people just, you know, from the rescue. but i'm sure been a lot since i have written at length over the years and saw a great deal about the pain, the lifeboat disaster happened at christmas time and affected the community of mosul and whole crew were lost. yeah and the and the people that they had successful got into the boat were all lost. it was a complete tragedy . and the very next day , tragedy. and the very next day, even before the bodies have been recovered , volunteers stepped recovered, volunteers stepped forward from the community that had lost all those main to take their place whenever they could organise a replacement. and that is the that's the monument to the solutions often come from desperation a need that needs to

be met. that's where the solutions come from. indeed indeed. well, on top of another break, after which we could have a real treat . i'm making no a real treat. i'm making no promises, but i'll my best. promises, but i'll do my best. we be joined in studio we might be joined in the studio , no figure than santa , no less a figure than santa claus . find , no less a figure than santa claus. find out if big man claus. find out if the big man is going to be here in 3 minutes.

welcome back for. welcome back for . the last time welcome back for. the last time this evening to neil oliver live five. now christmas approaching fast. given the schedule being contemplated by one of very few delivery . not contemplating delivery. not contemplating stray action in the weeks ahead . it made sense to us here at gb news to book a slot with claus sooner rather later. santa father christmas . saint nicholas father christmas. saint nicholas joins me now . and i have to say, joins me now. and i have to say, santa looking even better than last. santa looking even better than last . well, thank you. i think last. well, thank you. i think like a good wine. do you think

i'm mature with age, son? santa, you simply never get old. well, tell me what ? how's the list tell me what? how's the list looking? i mean, i can't imagine. many employees are making it onto the make it onto the nice side of the ledger. well, when you say not many. yes, perhaps a huge exaggeration. almost but you did . course you did. and so this is your official certificate, which failed to give you last year. so some of the might be out of date. it's thank you for your work as president of the national trust for scotland. obviously, that's now finished, but did still there but you did still work there and fire patron , the fire services patron, the association of lighthouse keepers and your son took you . keepers and your son took you. you've be terrific. i've got a got a signed document from santa as proof now if anyone says you're not the list, you can you're not on the list, you can prove this this is an prove you are. this this is an absolute first. what about how are things at the north pole? anyone strikes up there else ? anyone strikes up there else? reindeer? no, no . there was a reindeer? no, no. there was a bit of kerfuffle with some of the stable elves because this is

like work anywhere, sort of some of the elves think there a bit special, a bit above it all. you so the elves in the wrapping department of look down on everyone else and the stable elves tend to be the bottom of the but if you didn't have the heap. but if you didn't have , reindeer , you know, the reindeer wouldn't be ready to deliver. so are key. so they were key workers . a hierarchy assumed by workers. a hierarchy assumed by the elves . yes. it's not really the elves. yes. it's not really very fair because the wrapping elves no better than the stable elf. so they just think they are. yeah they don't get to go on strike . oh, that would be not on strike. oh, that would be not welcome. no. what what about broken supply chains and all the rest we hear so much about? is any the having any problems, you getting any shortfall in what you need do to make you need to do to make everything? yeah, i think i think some with think the some issues with electronics, i don't get very involved this. let give involved in this. let you give me a of would make a train make go you know electronics you go you know but electronics you know over to the know that's over to the technical elves but i they technical elves but i think they had issues but i think we're okay for the most part. were okay for the most part. we were talking show

talking earlier in the show about possibility, about the possibility, the likelihood of a white christmas. no, i'm guessing that you have a better inside track, that kind of information of meteorological information most. yes. but when i get back on christmas day, i can guarantee i'll have white guarantee i'll have a white christmas because i'm at the nonh christmas because i'm at the north pole. but that's obviously icy all weather because i'm going around the whole world. so it will be a white christmas for me is the population of me is what is the population of the pole ? you when the north pole? you know, when you about of you talk about the elves of various demarcations and rest. yeah. what's your what's your living working population? i don't know exactly, but it's in thousands because we've got a lot of elves doing a lot of work . one of the i think one of the best jobs as an elf is being of the reindeer herders, which used to be obviously, they to use icelandic horses , but now it's icelandic horses, but now it's mainly snowmobiles. this is why i think the stable elves are some of the best, because they're technicians can they're the technicians can maintain . maintain the snowmobiles as. well, as looking after the bigger population of reindeer up there, just dash and the main

inverts and the being the front guys. yes, yes. so you have you have a you have a b team at least we have many, many teams if we wanted . but it the problem if we wanted. but it the problem the thing is reindeer they're a herd animal if you only four or five or six or seven or even nine. but they kind of get a bit chuey nine. but they kind of get a bit cliquey if you like but with a big herd . and is rudolph in big herd. and is rudolph in shape?i big herd. and is rudolph in shape? i mean, with all these respiratory viruses , it must be respiratory viruses, it must be hard to check them with a throbbing red nose and all the rest the thing with rest of. it the thing with rudolph is he did have a bit of reindeer flu a while ago. a lot of, you know, reindeer, but it's worse than man flu. if you can imagine something man imagine something worse than man flu reindeer flu . flu rudolph had reindeer flu. and got the flu, his and when he got the flu, his nose being it's nose stopped being red. but it's full red again. so we he's full red again. so we know he's okay. look taylor is a legendary figure sitting among us. i how doesit figure sitting among us. i how does it make you feel to be in presence? because i stopped believing santa claus when i was 15. and now i believe again.

sorry to hear that you apologise. i haven't we haven't bumped into each other since my children were young. no. and that a while ago now . yeah. but that a while ago now. yeah. but now your grandchildren are coming along and we will be meeting up again. i hope. now we'll get together. well there are any spare houses on the nonh are any spare houses on the north because we have north pole because we have accommodate problems here. accommodate problems down here. i'm wondering, you accommodate problems down here. i'm wondering , you know, i'm just wondering, you know, maybe an opportunity snowball slide we're fine up there but they are fine but what you find is these empty flats that just been used in for property . yeah, been used in for property. yeah, they really disappoint me because . that means there isn't because. that means there isn't a child there for me to take a present to. but in a way it perhaps helps because course every year there's another plus houses for us to deliver to and another clause is the main but you call it a logistician and so she has to make every year gets harder harder to make sure we can do every house in the limited time at our disposal what would be your for children

watching this because obviously you know it's been a difficult year for . a lot of moms and year for. a lot of moms and dads. it's been a difficult couple years for families generally . yes. do you have some generally. yes. do you have some comfort and reassuring words for people watching who need this year perhaps more ever before? yeah, i would say things are hard this year. things are very and we don't have a government that's make it any easier. but it will get better. it will get easier and the children should know that the grown ups love them . what do you think people them. what do you think people remember christmas is really all about, obviously every time people see you, they think of the big budget gifts and all the rest of it . the big budget gifts and all the rest of it. but the big budget gifts and all the rest of it . but what really rest of it. but what really people be paying attention to maybe especially children . what maybe especially children. what is the meaning of christmas ? is the meaning of christmas? well, i think for me it's kindness being kind to another that's for children and for grown ups. but for the grown ups, grown ups. but for the grown upsifs grown ups. but for the grown ups, it's looking at what their

children do and being proud of their . children do and being proud of their. because if you think your children, you must be proud of them all the time. you know , the them all the time. you know, the way they're coping with their teenage years and it's you know they and it's really hard isn't it being child i mean we all think that children god easy they don't have to go work they don't have to go to work but is really hard a child but it is really hard a child yeah especially the last years. yeah. and so i'd say you know be kind to one another and just recognise how wonderful children are. it's a very i feel very strongly right this year every yeah strongly right this year every year. but think this year there's a real need for christmas and that it doesn't need to be about great moments of presents. it's about the fundamentals . yeah yeah. and fundamentals. yeah yeah. and look remember a year ago we were still lockdown light. i mean we weren't really out of the you know over the hump yet with with these lockdowns which were particularly cruel to children children you know in us where in

some states the us where they weren't allowed to school and they had to you know, three year olds wearing masks. it's obscene now and a ago at this time, you know, we were still dealing with all of ridiculous policies, both here and in the where, you know, where children were the ones who suffered the most. it's about not so. yeah. what's really christmas mean to you, lord taylor ? it's about jesus christ taylor? it's about jesus christ and the christian religion. so it is about faith, not fear, because the media not gb news is about fear. christ we're all doomed and when you see jesus christ through and we're victors, not victims , you see victors, not victims, you see it's about jesus christ and it's about that simple message of the family, the holy . but it's about family, the holy. but it's about a mother and a father yes transformed into a family yes by the presence of a baby boy. thank you, santa milk, shake your hand. thank you so it's really to see you. that's good. 0h really to see you. that's good. oh tonight. thank you to my

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