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channel it's 8:00 and this is marked tonight we kick off with the people's hour in which take your video calls tonight be asking after 100 days as our monarch is charles proving be a good king also do you trust the nhs to look after you this winter and can christmas be done on a budget and would it be any fun after all of your favourite items .7 papers with full panel items? papers with full panel reaction big opinion monologue. my reaction big opinion monologue. my take it ten and much much more . so lots to get through. more. so lots to get through. but first, the headlines with bethany elsie . mark, thank you. bethany elsie. mark, thank you. i am lc with your top stories from gb newsroom police have released the first pictures of a woman who died being injured in a crowd crush at the brixton 02
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academy . a crowd crush at the brixton o2 academy . 33 year old rebecca academy. 33 year old rebecca kumalo newham in east london was injured when ticketless fans tried to force their way into the music venue . two other the music venue. two other women, aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical condition in hospital. the artist ishak , he hospital. the artist ishak, he was performing that night, said he's by the incident and overwhelmed with grief . nhs overwhelmed with grief. nhs bosses are warning hospitals must free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by ambulance crews in england. that urging government and unions to resolve pay dispute before the first day of action on wednesday . nhs data shows in six patients are waiting than an hour to be transferred from ambulance to a&e care . former cabinet a&e care. former cabinet minister dr. fox, who worked as a gp , says the system needs an a gp, says the system needs an overhaul . we need, in my view to overhaul. we need, in my view to go back to our concept of convalescent hospitals and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting
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appropriate care because if you've got people occupying those acute beds, you need to be there. it doesn't matter how much money you pour into the system you're going to get system you're not going to get the output. that's the nurses union is warning the health secretary's macho negotiating style is hindering to resolve their pay dispute . the royal their pay dispute. the royal college of nursing accusing steve barclay of under valuing nurses because the profession 90% female. secretary pat cullen is urging the prime minister to step in ahead . further action step in ahead. further action planned on tuesday . the step in ahead. further action planned on tuesday. the union has been asking for a 19% pay rise but says they would any new offer . the rmt is accusing offer. the rmt is accusing westminster of being the odd one out in the long running pay dispute with rail workers after deals have been agreed in both wales and. scotland. in wales for, rail unions have agreed to a pay for, rail unions have agreed to a pay rise 4.5% over nine months. it says thousand staff in england with a fourth day of
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strike action this week . strike action this week. crippling network rail services , 14 other rail operator's the department for transport is the rmt union to reconsider their position . the met office has position. the met office has issued yellow weather warnings and is expecting for much of scotland. wales and the north and south—west of england. it comes as blizzard are set to sweep across the north of the this weekend. temperatures could temporarily rise on sunday. frost is expected to create difficult road conditions . difficult road conditions. europe on tv, online and radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to . back to. mark welcome to mark dolan tonight. very busy. 3 hours. we start with the people's hour in which i'll be taking video calls on the big of the day tonight . the
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the big of the day tonight. the stars of the show are sue in cheshire , andy in witness , cheshire, andy in witness, frances in salisbury , alan in frances in salisbury, alan in west hampshire and amanda in, east sussex. we'll be hearing from them throughout the course of the next. the topics we will be debating do concentrate amanda goodness sake she can't get the callers these days. the topics are as follows. after 100 days as our monarch is charles proving to be a good king also do you the nhs to look after you this winter and can christmas be on a budget saturday sidekick for the first hour is a good friend of mine former tory mp neil parish after nine in my big opinion rishi sunak must show that he's running britain, not the unions in the big question as people order the turkey and spuds and the cranberry sauce . spuds and the cranberry sauce. is christmas dinner overrated . is christmas dinner overrated. we'll hear from two top chefs
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who have opposing views . all the who have opposing views. all the american public turning their back on harry and meghan in. the light of the documentary series on netflix. we'll get the views of the queen us showbiz royal and political reporting. kinsey schofield and in the news agenda with panel as grant shapps makes a wacky video about saving our government information and films patronising, are they a waste of money. also britain a crap destination for tourism and. what are your christmas present fails ? let me know when your fails? let me know when your family or friend has really you down. do let me know about that gb news that gbv issues at gbnews.uk. we've also got tomorrow's papers from 1020 right through until 11. and in my take at pop scumbag, gary glitter has only half his sentence. and now walks free. i say him up and throw away the key. this is martin tonight on a
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saturday. so put something cold and fizzy in fridge or fire up the kettle and let's have a night to . remember you will night to. remember you will video calls in a moment. but first, dolans . another busy first, dolans. another busy dominated by the world's least happy millionaire , prince harry, happy millionaire, prince harry, the ginger himself having used podcasts . 6 hours of a podcasts. 6 hours of a documentary series and a fourth coming book to rant how terrible his life is . you do wonder his life is. you do wonder whether he's to run out of material . i whether he's to run out of material. i think it's time for the british public to use the ultimate against this couple silence by ignoring them. we're depriving of what they crave most attention. my new year's resolution is to give up harry and meghan. but before i do. the couple have a christmas card featuring , a photo of them at,
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featuring, a photo of them at, an awards bash, but it fails to christmas simply friends and family, a joyful holiday season . so they've cancelled the monarchy. they've their family and. now they're trying to cancel christmas . ebenezer cancel christmas. ebenezer scrooge would , be proud of . scrooge would, be proud of. meanwhile, drama in the art those the police officers broke down the doors a london art gallery to save a woman slumped unconscious over a table only to discover she was made of packing tape and foam filler. discover she was made of packing tape and foam filler . she was an tape and foam filler. she was an art installation , however the art installation, however the police still took her in for questioning . i'm told they questioning. i'm told they knocked the stuffing out of her as struggled with the low temperatures . there is one group temperatures. there is one group who are loving every minute of it. the gorillas at london zoo who have their own snowman and frozen bowls at each other as they embraced the cold snap .
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they embraced the cold snap. well, there you go. mick lynch might be the country to ransom , might be the country to ransom, but at least the hairy silverbacks gone on strike if they did, i'd go absolutely ape. and finally , john is to headline and finally, john is to headline the glass festival next year. although not clear how this iconic pop superstar will handle rough and ready conditions of what is essentially a party a field the diamond encrusted piano legend needs special glastonbury playlist . so here glastonbury playlist. so here are a few suggestions . i'm still are a few suggestions. i'm still camping. yeah yeah, yeah . candle camping. yeah yeah, yeah. candle in the tent . the lion stinking . in the tent. the lion stinking. how about sad songs? say so. mud . ci how about sad songs? say so. mud. ci jets of excrement . and my jets of excrement. and my favourite slurry to be the hardest word . and that was my
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hardest word. and that was my diary of the week. sad songs say so mad welcome that took hours with me for the next hour reacting the big stories of the day chipping in alongside the callers to the people's hour is former conservative neil parish. hi, neil great to have you on the show. great to be back. can we talk about the unions briefly? yes, this is a do or die moment for rishi sunak it not? i think it is because . you not? i think it is because. you know, it's almost taking us back to the seventies, wasn't it, when there was a big challenge? who's actually running country? and think also , i mean, i can and i think also, i mean, i can understand the public sector more pay, of course, they're more pay, but of course, they're also the private also affecting the private sector badly . you know, sector so badly. you know, you've got the rail unions , you've got the rail unions, you've got the rail unions, you've got the rail unions, you've got hospitality sector which really have had a bad time. you know, last christmas overcoat it because, you know, christmas is cancelled for them and they want to make it up this
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time and i think we have all got to work together and i think it's how we get to the sort of situation where because the rail union not about pay, it? union is not about pay, is it? they actually want to modernise their practise. and if you sort of listened to network rail and others, they sort of various gangs of workers to actually go in same van to arrive to do the work. now if you are, you know, if you're a farmer or, a private sector company or whatever, you wouldn't expect various derive all the same organisation in different vans. so i think all of these things have got to be sorted and i really think that rail unions will need to actually modern because you know, we want a great network then i believe they can have more money . but what they can't more money. but what they can't have is same old practises and money and i think that seems to be the problem and they've got short memories haven't they, because the rail industry was to the tune of around because the rail industry was to the tune of aroun d £600 per the tune of around £600 per household during the pandemic and the business model of has
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changed with so many people working home. so it is not business as usual, it's not and i think the problem i think you are getting people back on to the rail , are getting people back on to the rail, people were coming in to work more often . now, of to work more often. now, of course, they will find it very i mean, i came from somerset tonight and of course , had to tonight and of course, had to drive. there are no and of course not fully the trains are very good for the environment and yet we can't actually on them if they're not. so you've if you've missed out because if you take in the train you would have had a nice cup of yorkshire on the way wouldn't you. would have cress sandwich. yes. have taken cress sandwich. yes. and cheeky stella on the and perhaps cheeky stella on the way back. knows. i can't way back. who knows. but i can't have if i'm driving that's. have it if i'm driving that's. let's how roads by let's know how have the roads by the is how the snow the way how is how is the snow and ice? is it all and how's the ice? is it all right? yeah. snow in right? yeah. the snow is in wiltshire much in the wiltshire not much in the somerset more devon and somerset a bit more in devon and cornwall somerset more or cornwall in somerset more or less out . but a very less missed out. but it's a very slippery and of course what we've had the last few days is this sort of where you get a
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sleet of the ice . and sleet on top of the ice. and thatis sleet on top of the ice. and that is absolutely so. yeah, i mean and i love it. you know, we're looking out of a window now, but when you go out and work in, you think, well, i've had nearly enough of this some guys environment were guys from the environment were going the river going down in the river to do a sluice and they were in a crate and they went down right in the river. parrett i looked down at them you be cold. i them and i said, you be cold. i won't , they said, but so won't repeat, they said, but so they're not on television anyway. but you know, they were very cold and. i think that's the trouble that you have go out and work but we'll definitely and work but we'll definitely and i salute anyone there are so many, you know, tough men and women out in all women do go out there in all weathers roofers. and of course, people working on roads overnight, roadworks the rest of it, is it my imagination or have the gritters dropped the ball this year though i think they slow getting going. i mean , slow getting going. i mean, driving up to night or this afternoon they were gritters out. but if you notice when the when the hard weather hit, you see we sun sunday night. i mean was in was in the diary for a
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was in it was in the diary for a week. we knew it was coming. yeah.i week. we knew it was coming. yeah. i think trouble was we'd had the mildest had sort of one of the mildest autumn sort of on record, one of the hottest summers and, i think we dispense with we thought we'd dispense with winter. sudden winter. and all of a sudden i mean my father used to say the wet back, dry and the wet pay back, the dry and the cold , you know, the war cold payback, you know, the war will the cold and the will pay back the cold and the cold in warm and is cold way back in the warm and is what's now think what's happening now and i think not nation because you not we're a nation because you know we don't have all the snow blowers. we have all that blowers. we don't have all that equipment because we keep equipment because we can't keep it because the capital costs. but are very slow at getting but we are very slow at getting going when the frost gets going. that's you want. indeed that wouldn't happen in australia for example , bavaria in example switzerland, bavaria in germany because they're used to the snow and they're expecting when all also. yes we naturally and would it several days a and would have it several days a year if you've got year very often if you've got a snow very low of the snow ploughs are on the farms ploughs that are on the farms they away and when finally they rust away and when finally they rust away and when finally the snow comes they can't even find you that , the snow comes they can't even find you that, is find them. but you know that, is the see and how many the trouble you see and how many , it really that , many years is it really that we've serious quite
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we've had serious snow? quite a number you see. and that's our problem but that doesn't make an excuse us especially when excuse for us especially when it's in advance. i was it's forecast in advance. i was in a chain of eight. let's eat outlets a food chain and there were around the country leon very good quality lovely stuff at nice company but i couldn't find any beef on the menu now you your farmer. do you think there's a campaign to stop us beef? because i think it's the best of all it is, especially if you get some nice grass fed devon beef. our you some of like some of that because we keep some of that because we keep some devon cattle but it is it's grazed on grass it fattens it have a little of marling in the meat because you need a little bit of fat in the meat to cook it even you could cut some of that fat off afterwards but i think you people people i think sometimes realise the benefit of for grassland aid and holding the carbon as as eating the cycle . that's a complete cycle. cycle. that's a complete cycle. and i think that's what we miss
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out on and think we need to promote that more . i think you promote that more. i think you and i should do our bit. promote that more. i think you and i should do our bit . yeah. and i should do our bit. yeah. making sure that there's plenty of beef and it's good quality grass beef well . yeah, grass fed beef as well. yeah, well, i'm pleased to hear that you're speaking just you're speaking up for that just a brief word on harry and are they going to run out of material some point, do you think? i do hope so. i mean, i think, you know, i mean, i think what telling remember when what was telling i remember when the was on and there was a problems with meghan and harry said , meghan wants meghan gets said, meghan wants meghan gets them wrong . this sums up meghan them wrong. this sums up meghan and i rather fear that meghan's whole idea is to self—promote and dare i say it and, i think poor old harry and, i do say poor old harry and, i do say poor old harry because i think he gets dragged along there and i think it's time he stood up and was himself because in one minute he complains you know the press are intruding the next minute and they're all over and everything else actually encouraging, all of the media. do you think the public have embraced this story because it's like soap opera and it's like
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relief from all of our economic woes and the bad weather? yeah. i mean, i, we can be entertaining but i think i think it's quite, you know, with royal family actually trying to do a good job and i think, you know kate and william and charles and camilla all doing a good job. it must be a bit inferior, too. and of course, the problem is royalty can't really answer back and i think they're finding it quite difficult to with harry and meghan because , you know, and meghan because, you know, you would just answer back , you would just answer back, wouldn't you, if you were a politician and you'd say. right. okay. that's case. it's okay. that's not the case. it's this exactly . but royalty this is exactly. but royalty can't do that. and they have to sort of remain silent while they are one sided. what i believe is are one sided. what i believe is a very much on one side is story is put out there will turning other cheek work for king charles . i think it will work in charles. i think it will work in this country . charles. i think it will work in this country. i'm not sure it'll work in america because i think the americans like , the the americans like, the razzmatazz, of course, even though, they haven't got the monarchy and they rebelled
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against the crown a few hundred years ago. now they they still fascinate by our monarchy , even fascinate by our monarchy, even though they haven't got one themselves, although of late as you say, our monarchy has been badly across the pond. and we know why . coming up, following know why. coming up, following the break after , 100 days as our the break after, 100 days as our monarch is the good king . what's monarch is the good king. what's the report card looking like? also, do you trust the nhs to look after you this winter ? and look after you this winter? and can christmas be done ? a budget? can christmas be done? a budget? all of that to come. don't go anywhere .
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welcome back to mark dolan tonight and the people's hour in which i'm taking your video calls coming up. do you trust the nhs to look after you this winter and christmas be done on a budget and is it any fun if do. but first after 100 days as
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king is charles doing a good job. let's speak to sue. hi sue. good evening. great to have you back on the show. what's your what's your early verdict of king charles? i think he'll make a good king. i've always thought you'd make a good king . i think you'd make a good king. i think he's very sort . you'd make a good king. i think he's very sort. for he's kindly, sincere he's intelligent , he's very sort. for he's kindly, sincere he's intelligent, his has a long story with camilla. it is an enduring one. and always be very supportive of him. in a lot of ways. he's his dad. he's got a lot of interests . an dad. he's got a lot of interests. an . she's not sort of a11 . well . she's not sort of a11. well i think, tony, you know , i think, tony, you know, i completely agree with you, sue, because thing about being a royal, you're if do and if you don't. so if you're very passive , you're considered sort of useless really and you're just
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taking taxpayer's money. but if you're proactive like king charles was when he was prince of wales, then you're micromanaging you're meddling. you're interfering . i mean, i you're interfering. i mean, i think he's the first royal in history to have run a successful business with the duchy originals . also, he was a big originals. also, he was a big supporter and a big believer in organic farming, and people laughed about that at the time. but he's been proved right. yeah. is ahead of his time in a lot of and of course he's actually being trained by the best and most experienced diplomat in the world, which is his mother and i think a he will he's always trained for what is to come and always accepted his duty . he loves these people and duty. he loves these people and he loves these country and he's a devout christian as well, which , you know, in my view, i'm which, you know, in my view, i'm not a christian myself, but i think that gives you a good qualifications in my . well, i
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qualifications in my. well, i agree with you because . he is agree with you because. he is the head of state of , the the head of state of, the christian country. let's bring amanda in as well, if i can. because we've got so many callers on tonight's very excited so there's amanda amanda to have you back on the show. we'll bring will bring sue back in in a moment. and my brilliant presenter's friend neil. but what do you think about charles? he wasn't everyone's cup of tea before taking the crown, but i wonder whether all of the attacks from harry and meghan have cemented his popularity here in the uk. i have cemented his popularity here in the uk . i definitely here in the uk. i definitely think that the people of britain fully behind the king after the attacks you from his son and his wife . i think anyone that wasn't wife. i think anyone that wasn't too sure about charles before is probably more pro charles now after the attacks you know which i think have been so tacky and very, very narcissistic . yeah.
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very, very narcissistic. yeah. i mean , think that's i think mean, think that's i think that's the point it. it's early days but he's got off to a strong start don't you think . strong start don't you think. yes he he has definitely got off to a strong start and i think, you know, he make a good king as long as he can stay out of politics like mother did. yeah. and as as long as he remains as neutral sort of everything really , which i think he's going really, which i think he's going to find a little bit difficult, but i think overall he be a good thing. the one thing i don't agree with with regards to harry and meghan is i don't agree with . charles staying completely silent . the issue. i do think it silent. the issue. i do think it would be to his benefit to actually at least make some kind of a statement. i mean , you of a statement. i mean, you remember when they left the country after it , the queen did country after it, the queen did come out a statement and she was
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very diplomatic about it. she along the lines of, you very diplomatic about it. she along the lines of , you know, along the lines of, you know, recollections vary . and i recollections vary. and i thought that was very, very clever and very, very classy . clever and very, very classy. and the thing is to stay silent. king is almost giving a lot of people in america, especially the idea that maybe he's hiding some kind of guilt, you know, maybe that he has some something to hide . so i feel that really to hide. so i feel that really should make a statement. and i don't agree with them coming to the coronation next year. i really don't think they should beianed really don't think they should be invited , but i can understand be invited, but i can understand because his son. i understand why he feels the need to invite them because he wants to rise above all the attacks and it's you know it's his son. so i think you raise a good point about the queen she was not a soft touch at all. in fact, she was probably an iron fist in a
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velvet glove, really. and she did drop a few truth bombs in very elegant and discreet way as said. i remember during the scottish referenda them, she said, i hope that the scottish people will think very careful before they before vote and then also relation to the vaccine, she said. i hope people do the right thing. i mean, i don't that sort of mild vaccine tyranny but it was characteristic of the queen to subtly make point and be heard. let's bring neil parish in. let's bring neil parish in. let's get sue back as well to join a in east sussex. let's get sue back as well to join a in east sussex . sue, do join a in east sussex. sue, do you think that charles is a bit too much of a soft when it comes too much of a soft when it comes to harry and meghan ? their to harry and meghan? their relentless attacks ? no, i think relentless attacks? no, i think he's best keeping his powder dry until he sees what's in this book that's coming in january. thenis book that's coming in january. then is the time to start use decisions on what he says and doesn't say. but i think the royal are very subtle in their kickbacks because if notice that
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jim the carol all the women will back and jake which was something that meghan said you just couldn't pass simply do you have to have a different colour than everyone . and i think that than everyone. and i think that sort of diplomacy will come through with him . neil paris, through with him. neil paris, what's your verdict ? did you what's your verdict? did you meet the queen? yes i did on several occasions, a very young councillor when i first met her in in bridgwater , i was about 27 in in bridgwater, i was about 27 and then met her two or three times and she had quite a quirky sense of humour. when you met her actually, and almost of quite giggly, which you didn't actually sort of seen actually when she did her state television and what you. indeed therefore a hard act to follow. what's your verdict on charles so far? i think he's done very because he was prince wales for over 40 years. he he could actually have so great opinions on the environment, as you say he did a lot with the duchy and
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farming and organic farming but of course as the monarch you have really got to try and largely keep out of politics and i think he's managed to succeed in doing that. people still want him to take a role. i think on the environment but it's more for him now the monarch and i think that's probably prince william and kate will sort of step up to the plate so i think so far so good i think very sure hands and because none of us have of our generation have ever god save the king, have we we've always sang god save the queen. so, you know, i think we're getting used to it. and i think he's a good job because it's not an easy job being monarch, because you said whatever you do gets criticised. and i think he should actually invite and harry to the coronation . if he doesn't to the coronation. if he doesn't they will use it on next fleet against him . so therefore against him. so therefore i think you know he he probably needs to invite that briefly neil as a man to, i think rightly hinted he must stay out
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of that eco agenda. and the reason why is because the eco agenda zero has political . it agenda zero has political. it does and i think what we've got to remember too it's very much an international thing to make sure that global emissions is everywhere its way across the world. and i think you know, it is right the king when he was prince wales had had a had had a platform but has to be much more careful now he's king and like i said let us take the whole world with us not just britain when it comes to you know doing everybody doing their part. amanda amanda apologies now amanda amanda apologies now amanda . with the clock against amanda. with the clock against us . charles waited decades us. charles waited decades didn't for that for the opportunity to become a monarch but . he got there just in the but. he got there just in the nick of time he's 74 years of age but he's a young 74, isn't he? he looks like he's got energy and. he can make the most of this role. yes mean he's certainly earned his place
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becoming king next year. certainly earned his place becoming king next year . and, becoming king next year. and, you know, we all need to get behind . and i really do think, behind. and i really do think, you know, he deserves and to make the best of it. so i think it's just been the longest wait for any previous heir to the throne. i'm sure that charles probably up there with the longest waiting to become monarch ever. let's let's hope he really enjoys it. and he certainly has had the training, as you said , from the queen. so as you said, from the queen. so sue, you are the last word . you sue, you are the last word. you get the last word on this. well i think people don't listen , i think people don't listen, king charles, because if you remember, and i'm sure as journalist you will, that quite a few years ago when he was being quizzed about, being king, they asked him then if you would carry on campaigning just things and he said quite plainly no i'm
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not that stupid . yeah yeah. so not that stupid. yeah yeah. so think he's already marked his card on that one. sue and amanda . well, i'm pleased to hear it. sue amanda will be back very shortly. two of my absolute favourites on the people's hour have got lots more to come , have got lots more to come, including can you christmas on a budget ? if so, how? i'll get the budget? if so, how? i'll get the views all of my guests on that one. but next, do you trust the nhs to look after you this winter ? see, shortly .
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welcome back to and the people's in which i'm taking your video calls with ambulance drivers and going on strike. do you trust the nhs to care of you this winter ? what happens if you fall winter? what happens if you fall ? let's get the views of andy
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now. hi, andy . hello mark. good now. hi, andy. hello mark. good evening, viewers first off, thank you for the great programme of all those on screen and behind screen. thank you. that's really kind of you. and we are nothing without you and our amazing army of viewers . and our amazing army of viewers. and although we about to tackle a very serious and quite depressing subject, you've cheered me right up with santa hat and those reindeer shirts on and other reindeer shirts. you've even got the suggestion of a beard . can i just say that of a beard. can i just say that you're far too slim and far too young to be father christmas ? young to be father christmas? yes, i am. i could put a few more pounds on over christmas, though. well, i hope so that's a sign of a christmas well—lived . sign of a christmas well—lived. listen, andy, let's talk about the over the winter . i mean, woe the over the winter. i mean, woe betide anyone that gets ill this side of christmas . well side of christmas. well actually, i feel that the national health will take good care of everybody . i think the care of everybody. i think the main problem is that the ill
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prepared backlog which i was in hospital , a prepared backlog which i was in hospital, a child and, the nurses nurse , they came up and nurses nurse, they came up and held my hand and asked me was okay and things like that. and i think a lot of nurses now that is too much administration and they haven't got the time to actually to care for the people. so what's now with them being on strike and in winter when more people become hospitalised is the paring back of, you people become hospitalised is the paring back of , you know, the paring back of, you know, excuse me, can you go make me a piece of cells? can you get me a cup of tea ? something like that. cup of tea? something like that. that will be pared back and that's what is really needed in hospitals. not just the hospitals. it's not just the medical the mental. medical care, it's the mental. and you know the actual caring of the. i completely agree. it's the discretionary that they play. i'll be talking about that in my bigger opinion. monologues, surely i can give you a little early taster . we've you a little early taster. we've benefited from their labour and love in the past and we'll doubt
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call upon their expertise and compassion in the future . but compassion in the future. but andy, devil's advocate , not very andy, devil's advocate, not very compassionate. downing tools with 7 million people waiting for treatment . we love the for treatment. we love the nurses. i think the majority think they deserve something . think they deserve something. but don't you think the strike itself a mistake ? they do a pay itself a mistake? they do a pay rise now. my of view on this is that the nurses are , the that the nurses are, the frontline . the nhs built like a frontline. the nhs built like a full cheer wedding . but now it's full cheer wedding. but now it's a 20 layer wedding cake . but a 20 layer wedding cake. but it's upside down. you shop the bosses, the doctors, the nurses , the matrons, the nurses and the counting staff. what now ? it the counting staff. what now? it seems just to be too much administrator and not enough nurses . diversity officers . the nurses. diversity officers. the nhs is most diverse organisation in the world. i should think. it's 40% is from minorities. so
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why do they need diversity managers ? it makes sense. i managers? it makes sense. i think your. your. your wedding cake, your birthday cake analogy is abso lutely fitting. do there andy because we've got france as well. he's going to share his thoughts . this one and the thoughts. this one and the chaos, the dog both decorated for christmas . yes. we thought for christmas. yes. we thought mark, your producer asked i was going to have where jumper and giving them all the way to charity. so we've done our best and we were on of course on the 5th of november the fireworks and were on with you for 2nd of december and you criticised me slightly for not having a festive sort of . but so we've festive sort of. but so we've tried to do our and so here are. well listen you encouraged
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chris. i will say that chaos is a fantastic i'm sure as a farmer, as was in my younger but you'll appreciate sort of trying colour terrier that treats rats very unkindly as has chaos caught any rats in current accommodation not in my current but basically the rats do not like him around the large communal gardens. like him around the large communal gardens . yeah. because communal gardens. yeah. because they know he'll them. oh he's such an angelic face. but clearly has a darker soul and he's very good at catching these rodents and good luck to him. can we talk the nhs this winter frances? would you be worried about getting ill in the next few weeks ? yes very worried . i i few weeks? yes very worried. i i started off actually because the dying that i was given was about
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nurses . yeah. luckily luckily nurses. yeah. luckily luckily i expanded my replies to include food the nhs generally but i just make the one point to about most most nurses and against the strikes or not enough of a mandate to strike only 40 trusts out about 160 that's 25% got enough support to go on strike so only the most militant to more major in the individual balance of trusts held, which is the reply and they are seen as taking a i do slightly take against pat cullen if they are seen. i think she's very and insults health secretary accusing of sexism and macho style and not helpful i think then i broaden out into the nhs which is it should remember that
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the employers are the nhs trust boards have been conspicuously quiet despite having highly remunerate it roles not just see all health secretary, all the direct employers. and i think that's a point that's often missed 48% of jobs are front facing 52% of jobs in the nhs are administration of management . there's never been shortage funding in the nhs but. clearly management has not used it wisely . expanding management as wisely. expanding management as your other contributor mentioned into administration roles including retention of recruitment , the brief, the rcn recruitment, the brief, the rcn the nurses should be with the individual trusts , management individual trusts, management a point that also has been missed is the independent pay board offered 4% in february on universal credit and benefits in april was given not offered 3.2% so many unable to work as to be
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chronically ill and or disabled were worse than the nurses offer . but don't say we shouldn't pay more . so those on benefits and more. so those on benefits and pensioners actually taken inflation on the chin. nurses not alone on that regard . nurses not alone on that regard. nurses sadly because tony blair's mistake can idea that most should have university degrees as insured, the majority of nurses now needed to create qualify with all the associated debt. qualify with all the associated debt . not qualify with all the associated debt. not enough nurses are qualify going out to the university model. i would like to see more apprentice supported by technical colleges and practical hands on learning . why practical hands on learning. why was renditions? i'm sceptical about the stories of food banks not as is nausea and story without evidence nurses commence on 27,000 after graduation there are egregious increases . senior are egregious increases. senior nurses are all over 60,000 or
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more . i've been and this is more more. i've been and this is more particular now to the point i've been on wards for months at a time including christmas . so time including christmas. so i've seen firsthand what christmas cover looks like . christmas cover looks like. acute ward one consultant covering hundred and 25 beds shocking few doctors by day and none at night with a pool of five covering 425 beds. at best locums , as they have to study locums, as they have to study patient files , new costs. we can patient files, new costs. we can write day lunchtime a da all consultants go for the weekend back to my if something went wrong over the weekend then tissue concluded five day week it was down two surgical wards plastics , alcohol . well, let me plastics, alcohol. well, let me let me jump in there . i think let me jump in there. i think your points are so well made, francis and think for the nhs it is a case of reform or die given the fact neil parish that , the
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the fact neil parish that, the annual budget for the nhs now almos t £200 annual budget for the nhs now almost £200 billion, annual budget for the nhs now almost £200 billion , £30,000 per almost £200 billion, £30,000 per household per year. it's not about cash anymore, is it ? not about cash anymore, is it? not entirely at all, no i think that nurses need more, but 90% cannot be afforded and i think , you be afforded and i think, you know, the point just made in france is that 52% now is spent on managed . i france is that 52% now is spent on managed. i mean, france is that 52% now is spent on managed . i mean, before on managed. i mean, before i became an 12 years ago, there was too much being spent on it and all time i was an mp . you and all time i was an mp. you actually saw more and more in ministry and you got less and less answer is from the trusts and everybody running the various hospitals and right down to the doctors surgery. and how do the doctors surgery link in to the hospitals ? why have we to the hospitals? why have we got so many people, you know, in accidents, emergency is ? because accidents, emergency is? because very often they can't necessarily get into the surgery. so every body has got to pull hard on it. i think the nurses need more , but they nurses will need more, but they will not get the 90% because we can't afford i do think can't afford it. but i do think and know every every time we and i know every every time we try to reform the nhs, we seem
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to it worse as far as administration concerned. but i think really that does need to be sorted. i started my in local government at an early age and that's where we to cut administrative costs and it seems almost impossible because in the nhs it's your managers that are the decisions and sometimes they will dare. i say cut the frontline service before they cut their management service. and i think that's where governments really are going to have to step up the plate because we want to make sure that you see operations going to be the problem, aren't they?i going to be the problem, aren't they? i think we will manage through crisis of actually through the crisis of actually getting emergency care. yeah, but you know, my wife has had to have a skin operation for skin cancer that's already been postponed twice . there's not a postponed twice. there's not a date for it yet, you know. so everybody's the same boat there and. i think, you know, we must get these operations done as well as dealing with emergent system. look at lots more to
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come from neil parish also and francis we'll be back chaos the dog who we're told is a very efficient rat to at 9:00 it's my big opinion rishi sunak demonstrate that he's running the not the unions but next. can christmas be done on a budget we'll hear from of the callers to people's hour. i'm neal pansh to people's hour. i'm neal parish didn't go anywhere .
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welcome to the people's hour. with me, mark dolan which i'm taking your video calls now amid a cost of crisis with spiralling inflation and as people prepare for the can christmas be done on a budget and if will it be as much fun . what really matters on much fun. what really matters on the 25th. let's speak now to who if we got next next it's alan.
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let's speak to alan. hi mark. warm back to the show . what do warm back to the show. what do you think about christmas on budget? can it work ? i think you budget? can it work? i think you really should be speaking to make grinch about that, not me , make grinch about that, not me, because i'm sure he'll be able to do it very well well . no, it to do it very well well. no, it can't done. if you're doing something like a secret santa. yes, that would work. it always worked. but if you're doing it, family members , it's impossible family members, it's impossible because you certainly think i need to get them. that i need to get them that. oh, i forgot. so and so and before, you know , you and so and before, you know, you spend four times the amount of money you want to spend anyway . money you want to spend anyway. so doing christmas on a budget is not easy. there are people who do a family secret santa , who do a family secret santa, put a price on and that's fine if they're with that, then that's fine . get away with doing that's fine. get away with doing it on a budget .
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that's fine. get away with doing it on a budget. but that's fine. get away with doing it on a budget . but generally it on a budget. but generally speaking , i've never been able speaking, i've never been able to do christmas on a budget. no mean this is the issue. if you buy one gift for one relative like a niece or granddaughter, well then you've got to give all of their siblings gifts as well. it's a bit like wedding invitations, isn't it? oh, very, very much so. it just escalates. it carries on. you've always forgotten somebody and then you've got to go back. oh, quickly rush down the shop because i've got to get something for so—and—so and. christmas ends up being a nightmare . so can i quickly say nightmare. so can i quickly say something . go for it just something. go for it just slightly away . you will. you're . so slightly away. you will. you're. so yes there's been so much between you and dan wootton against harry and meghan i think they're all sick of it the only person
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who hasn't got involved in all this is michelle dewberry who's made her show a harry and meghan free show , full marks to her. free show, full marks to her. well, listen, the feedback is welcome and duly noted . let me welcome and duly noted. let me tell you, i can take on the chin. i do agree with you a contradiction because we're sick , this couple, but we're only feeding monster by talking about them non—stop . quite right. and them non—stop. quite right. and thatis them non—stop. quite right. and that is that it's a dilemma for us whenever we put the show together, we're certainly off harry and meghan. but i take points. i'm just going back to christmas. i'm choosing family. it could consider something like a gift amnesty where brothers and sisters just say look let's not do presents year let's get together let's have an amazing turkey let's rivers of wine delicious beer, whatever aperitif you like but skip the presents. would that work yes provided everybody stuck it and they're not going to hit
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somebody together say oh, i'm going to get a present this christmas and you just ruined the whole situation . so yes, the whole situation. so yes, it's a great idea, but my work not in practise so we're back . not in practise so we're back. the good old fashioned let's get the gifted and black the and enjoy it . well, i've got an idea enjoy it. well, i've got an idea as . we bring everyone into this as. we bring everyone into this conversation . we can. daryl, i'm conversation. we can. daryl, i'm going to send young young man , going to send young young man, young, young . i'm going to send young, young. i'm going to send him a signed ad, and i should say a signed harry and meghan markle that so let's get you let's get you back in on this. will you be having expensive christmas ? no, i think you can christmas? no, i think you can have a christmas on a budget but it's only the last years the show but it's gone off because of the job i've had. what generally speaking, we've always spent generally speaking, we've always spen t £30 on this day. so £50 spent £30 on this day. so £50
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presents for and a little bit more for kiddies. it's always worked and i don't see why it shouldn't i think you need to teach that you can't have everything they want, you know that life has its limitation and you've got to make sure you can afford what you're doing and all people who go into debt over , in people who go into debt over, in my opinion, need the head licking because it takes them 12 months and multiply it off. and that's your ancient debt. again, you know you've got you've got to put foot down with the kids in my view and. what about you? i mean, it's to economise though in some areas it for example, the is massively expensive . 30 the is massively expensive. 30 o r £40 . where do you buy your or £40. where do you buy your turkeys from waitrose? how is that your place? not much. but to put it like make is that when you start presents for lots of people you put pressure on them to buy sell that for you . now to buy sell that for you. now some of these people might as well officiate and they've got
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massive energy bills to pay this christmas. so this christmas, our family decided to do a very small presence at christmas going to call it that we've also a new grandson called jasper we're having him round for the first time obviously and we're just pat and get back and that's all you need to do is if you start buying presents people it's the same when you're raising christmas . you send raising christmas. you send a thousand and you got a thousand book are just spending book people are just spending a fortune on sending christmas cards to people they probably never see in year. you just send a christmas card , but if you a christmas card, but if you stop doing it, a christmas card, but if you stop doing it , then they don't stop doing it, then they don't have to send one. so they're saving money and you're not putting them into that's a success well, listen , i tell you success well, listen, i tell you what, you're all very wise and very sensible, very parsimonious . but amanda in east sussex, i whether we're sucking the life out of christmas and the joy . out of christmas and the joy. yes i mean, you know, it's what once a year and we really should
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just make the most of especially after the last update of christmases, which were effectively cancelled because of covid last year. not so much, but definitely one before that. and i just think it's the most joyful time of the year when it comes to being able to celebrate all together . obviously, all together. obviously, spending on the weather but i love christmas because i love all the christmas songs and getting out the sparkly tops and you know just drinking and eating not having to worry about the waistline for a few days . so the waistline for a few days. so i do think that people should really make the most of the christmas because it's a wonderful time of the year and on that on that we can all agree. my thanks to andy and also to amanda and to all of my brilliant callers. neil parish will regroup week and next up it's my big opinion monologue. don't go anywhere anywhere .
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it's 9:00. this is markdown lyn tonight. in my big opinion , tonight. in my big opinion, sunak must show that he's running britain , not the unions running britain, not the unions in the question is christmas dinner ? i'll ask two top chefs dinner? i'll ask two top chefs who have opposed views and all of news that stateside from the queen of showbiz, royal and political reporting, kinsey schofield is in the news agenda with my panel. after the latest effort, grant shapps all government information films patronising. do we need any information from the government and is britain a crap destination for tourism and as
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perfume made of urine hits the high streets ? who'll be asking high streets? who'll be asking what are you all present fails? tomorrow's papers live . and 10 tomorrow's papers live. and 10 minutes earlier than everyone else at 1020 right through until . and it might take a ten pop scumbag . gary glitter has only scumbag. gary glitter has only served half his sentence and now walks free. i say lock him up and chuck away the key lost . get and chuck away the key lost. get through, including my big opinion . but first, the opinion. but first, the headunes opinion. but first, the headlines with bethany elsey elsey . thank you. i am bethany elsey. thank you. i am bethany elsey. thank you. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb news room. a woman who was injured , a crowd crash at was injured, a crowd crash at the brixton o2 academy has now died . 33 year old rebecca akuma died. 33 year old rebecca akuma from newham in east london , was from newham in east london, was injured when ticketless fans tried force their way into the music venue . two other women, music venue. two other women, aged 21 and 23, remain in a critical condition in hospital.
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nigerian artist ashok, he was performing that night, says he's devasted by the incident and overwhelmed grief . the rmt union overwhelmed grief. the rmt union accusing westminster of being the odd one out in the long running paid dispute with rail workers. deals have been agreed in both wales and scotland . in in both wales and scotland. in wales, full rail unions agreed to pay a rise, with 4.5% overnight in months. it has 40,000 staff in england continue with a fourth day of strike action. this crippling network rail and 14 other rail operator's . the department for operator's. the department for transport is urging the rmt union to reconsider its position . nhs bosses are warning hospitals must free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by ambulance crews in england. there urging the government and unions to resolve the dispute before the day of action on wednesday nhs data shows one in six patients are waiting more an hour to be
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transferred from ambulance to a&e care , while former cabinet a&e care, while former cabinet minister dr. liam fox, who worked as a gp , says the system worked as a gp, says the system needs an overhaul . we need, in needs an overhaul. we need, in my view, to go back to our concept of convalescent and i think that we need to ensure that people are getting appropriate care because if you've got people occupying those acute beds don't need to be there, it doesn't matter much money you pour into the system you're not going to get the output. that's and police and avon and somerset to issued a safety warning after several calls about children on frozen lakes. calls about children on frozen lakes . the warning follows the lakes. the warning follows the deaths of four boys who fell into a lake at smith park in solihull. nearly week ago. hundreds of people turned up for a vigil this afternoon in memory of them . you're up to date on of them. you're up to date on gibney celebrity more news as it happens. now, let's back to .
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mark my . thanks to bethany, who's my. thanks to bethany, who's back in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, rishi sunak must show that he's running britain, not the unions . that he's running britain, not the unions. in the big question is christmas overrated? what do you think about? the is christmas overrated? what do you think about ? the turkey, the you think about? the turkey, the cranberries , potatoes? we'll cranberries, potatoes? we'll speak to two top chefs who disagree while glee on that. how do you have your christmas dinner? is it a turkey ? is it a dinner? is it a turkey? is it a goose? is it a not roast? also, all the americans turning their back on, harry and meghan, a i'm excited to say we'll be joined by the queen of us , showbiz by the queen of us, showbiz royal and political reporting. the one and only kinsey schofield . we'll also get to schofield. we'll also get to some other big in the news agenda with my grant. shapps has made a wacky video about saving energy , but our government energy, but our government information films. energy, but our government information films . do we want information films. do we want education from the government? i'm not sure . do. also, is
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i'm not sure. do. also, is britain crap destination for tourism . and that's what experts tourism. and that's what experts are saying . do you agree and are saying. do you agree and what your christmas present fails. do get in touch. let me know. plus tomorrow's papers live and uninterrupted. 10 minutes earlier than everyone else at 20, right through until 11. but he might take a ten pop scumbag gary has only served half his sentence and now walks free. i say lock him up and throw away the key and make sure, by the way he never sings again. with throughout the show is my brilliant piano panel, i should say piano. my lovely panel ashlin horgan—wallace is a columnist and actress , political columnist and actress, political commentator and of conservatives against racism. albie amankona and radio tv legend neil fox . i and radio tv legend neil fox. i want to hear from me throughout the show. mark at gb news dot uk. you know how much i love your emails and this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not watch. i just won't
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not on my watch. i just won't have. not on my watch. i just won't have . so for the next 2 hours, have. so for the next 2 hours, big debates, big and always big opinions . big debates, big and always big opinions. let's start with this . one opinions. let's start with this. one rishi to be fair, being prime minister at the moment is a tough gig than david walliams is pubuchy. tough gig than david walliams is publicity . but tough gig than david walliams is publicity. but as britain tough gig than david walliams is publicity . but as britain stares publicity. but as britain stares down barrel of a winter of discontent with industrial strife , multiple sectors , this strife, multiple sectors, this chaos provides our talented new prime minister with an historic . opp prime minister with an historic. opp sympathy for the nurses in terms of their claim for a better package. we've benefited from their love and labour the past. and we will no doubt upon their expertise and compassion in future. a society that can't reward those who look after us at all weakest moments isn't . a
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at all weakest moments isn't. a society at all. but as with the rmt union decimating the hospitality sector by having strikes before and after christmas , the decision by the christmas, the decision by the nurses unions , many nurses nurses unions, many nurses themselves object to down tools , the usual nhs winter pressures and with 7 million people waiting for treatment. well, it's cruel timing and in my view strategic mistake . anyone who strategic mistake. anyone who can't get seen the next couple of weeks and can't get to hospital quickly . the ambulance hospital quickly. the ambulance staff are on strike , will not staff are on strike, will not forget what they've done. in the end, i'm sure, a sensible package is in the offing for the nurses . package is in the offing for the nurses. number ten will rightly judge that whilst 19% is wide of the mark, denying nurses something not a political hill to die on. the rest of it, however , is rishi sunak must however, is rishi sunak must stand firm with the rmt the civil servants and all the sectors who are working such a
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coordinated way that it almost feels part of a wider plan to bnng feels part of a wider plan to bring down this . of course, bring down this. of course, everyone could get a bumper pay rise. if we hadn't shut country down for two and a half years, wilfully the economy. but we are where we are. inflation in double digits and. people are struggling. but seek to tackle inflation by people. pay rises will add to the problem . it's will add to the problem. it's like curtailing a flood by turning the taps on a wages spiral in what is an effective arms with inflation. we'll just lead two years more of economic pain . we could ultimately become pain. we could ultimately become , like zimbabwe or argentine , , like zimbabwe or argentine, with people using briefs of cash to pay for a loaf of bread. now might be exaggerating slightly, but you get my point. the country is broke, running a deficit , a 2 trillion national deficit, a 2 trillion national debt. there's no more money for
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these pay rises . how do you these pay rises. how do you think the international bond markets and rolex speculators would take us borrowing more billions ? to keep the unions billions? to keep the unions quiet , which billions? to keep the unions quiet, which of course they won't give them an inch and they'll take a mile and they'll take the country down with them . if rishi sunak gives into the unions will want a piece of the cake. it will be a doom loop of rising wages and, rampant inflation, a race the bottom. if sooner stands firm, its a virtue circle wage means that inflation will fall which boosts the value wages and sees a drop in the cost of living that sounds like a win win to me. cost of living that sounds like a win win to me . a stable and a win win to me. a stable and lower inflation economy is the ultimate prize for ashes in 2023. it's within grasp, but he's going to have to demonstrate political will and a
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backbone. demonstrate political will and a backbone . can he do it ? you tell backbone. can he do it? you tell me . but if he does, i believe it me. but if he does, i believe it be his falklands moment. tangible progress with the illegal migrant crisis a better economic outlook and mick lynch back in his box offers the chance of another five years at number ten, where he can really show what he's made of. sunak has to demonstrate that he's britain, not the unions. has to demonstrate that he's britain, not the unions . what's britain, not the unions. what's your view? market gb news dot uk. i'll get to your opinions shortly. but first reacting to my big opinion and all of the big stories of the day, we have actress and columnist ashley ann horgan—wallace. political and co—founder of conservatives against racism albie amankona. and radio and television legend neil fox. i'll be let me start you. i think the nurses receive
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a settlement but rishi sunak must down and face down all of the other unions. yes think rishi sunak is in really difficult position at moment because of course you've got the nurses is on strike. i think it's the first strike that the royal college of nursing have ever done in their 106 year history , asking for a pay rise history, asking for a pay rise of 19, which at the moment just isn't affordable given . the isn't affordable given. the hundreds of billions of pounds being on energy support being on the energy support scheme, the hundreds of billions of was spent covid of pounds that was spent covid support. the over support. and of course, the over trillion pounds in national debt that we have, it's just simply unaffordable. but equally, i think settlement that has think the settlement that has been reached in scotland, which think the settlement that has bee|actuallyj in scotland, which think the settlement that has bee|actually prevented nd, which think the settlement that has bee|actually prevented the which has actually prevented the strike, think agreed on strike, i think they agreed on 7.5% pay increase means that i think the prime minister is now under a lot of to get the health secretary around the table with the college nurses and in the royal college nurses and in particular to negotiate a settlement, not 19, but something which is affordable, which is more than they're getting now. i mean, yes. what's stake here potentially albie
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amankona is a decade inflation. that's why there must be wage restraints . yes, absolutely . restraints. yes, absolutely. don't want another situation like we saw in the 1970s where we had a wage price spiral. essentially, if we if everyone an increase in wages, which you'll want it will bake in inflation into the economy, which means that the inflation will last much longer. at the moment, inflation is the enemy of everyone and the government's goal of everyone and the government's goal. goal should be doing everything they can to bring inflation down with the bank of england. ashley hogan wallace this is a question political will and political . and we don't will and political. and we don't yet , do we, if this new prime yet, do we, if this new prime minister has it, we don't. but i think it's high time that he put his thatcher hat on, just said no to the rise. the pay rises apart from with the. i think that my starting point is that they more money and without like you said a monologue. it's not necessary if we can't after those looking after us. so there
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needs to be money found from somewhere. for example, benefit system. there's millions being fraudulently taken from the benefit system. so get some money from there . know, reassess money from there. know, reassess everything and give them pay rise. the rest of them know . rise. the rest of them know. pick your thatcher hat on and. show us you've got some both your you're a good judge of . your you're a good judge of. yeah i'm hoping and guessing got a pair of balls but actually morgan wallace that's the great imponderable it's a challenge for sunak the few months, but a great opportunity as well. what do you think he's going to do? what do you think will happen? i think will put his stature on. and i think he will stick to his guns. think he needs to do something for the nurses? maybe not, but the rest of them. i think he's going to i think he's going to i think we're going to be impressed. the challenge, though, neil fox, you can't though, neil fox, is you can't really who deserves really cherry pick who deserves the because you've the pay rise because you've pubuc the pay rise because you've public sector across public sector workers across multiple including teachers and
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servants who are using . yeah servants who are using. yeah it's a really tough winter isn't it. let's honest with all the factors seem to have contributed to this moment and us all having this very tough time and a spiralling inflation . of course, spiralling inflation. of course, what that means if had 10% inflation, it means people people's money is worth 10% less effectively. you know, right now so those wages are effectively down all the time and. there are people that needed a pay rise a year ago and two years ago maybe were promised during covid when we're all out clapping, the nurses and now, you know, a couple of years later, it's all come a head now. i think the pubuc come a head now. i think the public obviously have massive sympathy for the nurses i think there are other people who are striking obviously like the transport workers who equally would say well look we need more money and our money is worth less now than it was two years ago. like the same as everyone else. but of course when you can't to and, can't can't get to work and, you can't get know , you can't get to, you know, you can't be doing it's ruining
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doing business and it's ruining on and it it's a real problem because that really affect people. but obviously if someone's going to try and get a hospital in the next couple of weeks or an to the end of the year and they can't you know, that's something they will never forget just seems forget either. but it just seems that i don't know that some sensible i don't know whether is thatcher on whether it needs is thatcher on you i think we're you know i think we're a different world now and i think we need people we just need to get people around a table try and talk around a table and try and talk sensible with people be fair so they have to come up they but they have to come up with solution this it just with a solution to this it just be to be the be who's going to be the toughest in front it out that doesn't seem to be the solution to me i have to say i was surprised at figure you gave surprised at the figure you gave out that equated to out earlier that equated to £13,000 per household in britain. now that's effectively what the nhs is getting from us all. so it doesn't necessarily mean that there's not enough money going into the it just may be that it needs be worked out where it's getting spent and, maybe spent better. there does seem be heard awful seem to be we've heard an awful lot they're not how they lot that they're not how they buy their different goods . the
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buy their different goods. the nhs isn't necessarily well done. they could save an money there. and so you have to find places, maybe you can save it . and so maybe you can save it. and so that the people who are doing the job can get paid properly . the job can get paid properly. costing. what were you going to say? i was to had an say? i was going to say had an interesting come to in interesting tweet come to in saying that is somebody that worked saying there worked in nhs saying that there excuse were a lot of excuse me, there were a lot of jobs in the nhs are actually sort of not needed . there were sort of not needed. there were a lot of people doing jobs that took every easy and could be done by one person. but the done by five for example, and that's just that's an inside you information of perhaps there's been too much money spent in the wrong places. as neil said you're completely right we've heard so many five quid for a packet of paracetamol . i think packet of paracetamol. i think you can get paracetamol. i think 16 capsules morrisons for three pay 16 capsules morrisons for three pay the nhs pays fiver 50 quid for a contractor or two to change a light bulb. i hurt my
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back a couple of years ago . back a couple of years ago. great service amazing doctors and nurses however they gave me and nurses however they gave me a back brace and used it for a few days and i went back the hospital with it, said, no, we can't take it back. it's not clean anymore. it's not hygienic. you've been using it. either keep it or chuck it . now, either keep it or chuck it. now, this brace, that must have this back brace, that must have been quids worth of kit. been hundred quids worth of kit. just that is not just away. that is not justifiable. i've got another story for . you. i'm full of story for. you. i'm full of stories. i'll be which is a family friend whose kid is gluten intolerant they're coeliac and is still getting pasta on the nhs gluten free pasta. i mean this where we're going wrong isn't it. but shouldn't some on the have is coeliac condition be getting gluten free pastas . if so what gluten free pastas. if so what would be the problem with that? well, if have to if they can prove that they're on a low income definitely. but was not means this just means tested this was just a regular class family who regular middle class family who were getting free pasta . that's were getting free pasta. that's how the nhs works . they get how the nhs works. they get pasta prescriptions and pasta on prescriptions and pasta. yeah, well, i mean that
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is a pretty funny that's a pretty startling i think example people sometimes in where actually sometimes they say can go a little bit too in helping people and i do think means more broadly for the nhs and for the health service be something which we do see in the longer term whether or not it is sustainable for this health service model of free at the of use for everyone is that going to be something which is going to be something which is going to sustain the 100 to sustain for the next 100 years? i think that's up in the air. brilliant question. don't you my panel by the you love my panel tonight by the way, legend neil way, broadcasting legend neil fox is looking after mark dolan tonight this christmas. i'm deeply honoured . one of the best deeply honoured. one of the best broadcasters in the so neil thank you so much for doing that and i'll watching rather and i'll be watching rather jealously thinking look what a great job he's doing. lots more to in the news agenda with to come in the news agenda with my as grant shapps , a my panel as grant shapps, a wacky video about saving energy, all government information patronising. do we need to be educated by the government about power? walden to have the house also, is britain a crap
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destination for tourism and what are your christmas present fails? let me know . it's market fails? let me know. it's market gb news uk. but next in the big question and this is a big one folks. turkey gravy , brussels folks. turkey gravy, brussels sprouts, mince pies . folks. turkey gravy, brussels sprouts, mince pies. is christmas dinner overrated ? christmas dinner overrated? we'll debate that. we've got jean—christophe novelli from the novelli academy and they're a top tv . don't go anywhere .
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well, a big reaction . my big well, a big reaction. my big opinion monologue emails are coming in thick and fast at gb news dot uk. ben has now crafted that big opinion. news dot uk. ben has now crafted that big opinion . a digital that big opinion. a digital video you can watch it back on twitter gb news. well how about this regarding ? the strikes from this regarding? the strikes from jackie . hi, jackie, how are you
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jackie. hi, jackie, how are you tonight? jackie mark. i agree that if the nurses were saving lives and were essential would have some support. but the trouble is they do not save lives and earn enough as it is. and the fact that they are using food banks, taking away from desperate people is obscene . desperate people is obscene. they obviously need budget lessons. no support from me . and lessons. no support from me. and how about this from . we all know how about this from. we all know sunak got with a coup. he's the lowest pm we've ever had. he seems to just show his for face minister's questions. he's out of his depth. he does not care about the uk . he'll be off to about the uk. he'll be off to the us when dump him. i'm hoping reform uk takes off a tory mp on the nsa and media got sunak into . the next move is for the unions to ruin him as much weaker than boris. then starmer gets in. that's rob. not happy about the current situation. last but not least emily on this one. emily thank you for your
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email. hi. rishi needs to start showing true leadership by not being afraid to stand up to the trade unions he needs to put on his thatcher hat and not let unions ruin christmas and important operations for here. i saw a shocking headline in the evening standard yesterday by emily and this just related to the capital london . it said the the capital london. it said the train strikes will london alone 7 train strikes will london alone ? £2 billion. us be clear that is money that cannot afford replicated the country. it's time now for this . yes, it's time now for this. yes, it's time now for this. yes, it's time for the big in which i tackle a major news story of the day tonight as order their christmas turkey or debate whether it should be lamb or goose is christmas dinner overrated after ? why do we only overrated after? why do we only eat it once a year? and what about mince pies and christmas pudding? does anyone like those things ? to debate this, i'm things? to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome
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restaurateur, author and tv and radio presenter barry vieira and star chef jean—christophe novelli from the internet famous novelli from the internet famous novelli academy school. gentlemen, great have you on the show. jean—christophe let's start with you. is the traditional christmas overrated . it' traditional christmas overrated. it' single year of your return . i single year of your return. i mean formal side . no, i don't mean formal side. no, i don't think so. i think it's is something do once again is the piece for me most exclusive roast that you do in a year. we're having a bit of trouble. we're having a bit of trouble. we're trouble with jean—christophe line the recipe isn't quite working at the moment you need to 500 grams of
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laptop and 200 grams of internet broadband which is not available at the but we'll get jean—christophe back fully baked is barry vera who's an author , is barry vera who's an author, tv presenter and restauranteur . tv presenter and restauranteur. barry, you got a better line . barry, you got a better line. what do you think about the christmas dinner? we only eat it once a year . actually, the truth once a year. actually, the truth is, we don't like turkey that much. well is much. do doing well is ironically turkey's now sold in the supermarket like everything else all year round. and you know i see it the year and for me i think it is quite overrated when i think it. and as a chef probably shouldn't be saying this but you know before for me growing up in the and you know, in my younger years , the great in my younger years, the great family meal, the sun roast we all gathered at grandmas as a family, we all gathered around the table. we had two courses. well, if you're from yorkshire, the yorkshire pudding was a of course, you kind of did have three courses and. it was all part of family life. the shops
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were and families came were closed and families came together. and i'm i'm together. and i that and i'm i'm seeing lot on social media at seeing a lot on social media at the moment it's people often refer old days that refer to the old days with that but go for christmas dinner but we go for christmas dinner everybody's stressing it. people overcook turkeys. quite a number of people do because i think it takes six, 8 hours to cook a turkey. they buy all of these items that they don't really need and overbuy you know you're going into supermarkets and you see things that you see see things that you don't see any of the year and any other time of the year and i will have that and have that and i'll have that. and how money do we spend and we waste and how much food is wasted at christmas and then , you know, as quick as and then, you know, as quick as you finish christmas dinner, you mentioned earlier about the christmas pudding. we've all eaten because not only eaten too, because it's not only just turkey , you've got just the turkey, you've got nibbles arrives nibbles when everybody arrives people are having champagne or a cocktail beer, then somebody cocktail, a beer, then somebody is made the starter in the family and. then you get to the turkey by that point. people are too full they no, no, too full and they go, no, no, don't worry, we'll have the christmas later and as christmas pudding later and as the christmas pudding ends up
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being next year's christmas pudding. you need to buy pudding. so you need to buy one. how actually are how many people actually are using year's christmas using last year's christmas pudding? use it last pudding? so didn't use it last year and how much is wasted. yeah, mean , do you enjoy yeah, but i mean, do you enjoy a good stuffing on christmas night though. very yes i look absolutely i mean, i love the christmas meal. i do , i love christmas meal. i do, i love i actually do enjoy turkey i don't dry my turkey and i keep i'm a bit old fashioned. my stuffing is done separately a racing tray i don't stuff the bird why is that why why did you do it separately barry because i like the crust that goes a bit because when you've got the opening of the turkey you just get that you know the opening then it will get nice and crusty and picks it. that and everybody picks it. that piece everything else piece and then everything else is wet on the inside. so i is quite wet on the inside. so i do it in a racing tray. i get a nice crusty top you can nice crusty top and you can portion it accordingly. see, nice crusty top and you can pdon't it accordingly. see, nice crusty top and you can pdon't mind accordingly. see, nice crusty top and you can pdon't mind gettingigly. see, nice crusty top and you can pdon't mind getting my. see, nice crusty top and you can pdon't mind getting my hand the i don't mind getting my hand the bird christmas dinner, but bird on christmas dinner, but i think the truth the truth is barry , it has become a barry, it has become a tradition. i mean some people go
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for alternative meats, some people have goose some people have duck. some people have beef . my mum actually always actually on christmas eve she would roast a piece beef, be it a sirloin or , a rib could be a sirloin or, a rib could be used on christmas day. if not, then it's used towards boxing day for your cold cuts and your own sandwiches , whatever you own sandwiches, whatever you want it for. but yeah, goose is an interesting one. i actually had an interesting conversation with somebody a couple of days ago goose and she said, ago about goose and she said, you year going to you know, next year i'm going to try a goose very try a goose, a goose is very fatty. to cook it to fatty. you've got to cook it to render the fat but it is a render the fat out. but it is a beautiful meat. if it's done properly. i actually have never done christmas . i'm done a goose for christmas. i'm a bit traditional and i go always go with the turkey you always go with the turkey if you could if you if you could allow all of us to chat so myself barry the panellists but whilst do that let's have a quick a follow up question if i can barry , if you're going to have barry, if you're going to have that traditional christmas dinner, what's the best way to
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it? a bit more imaginative, a bit more fun. if you're having turkey with and brussel brussel sprouts , how can we dress it up sprouts, how can we dress it up a bit to make more palatable ? a bit to make more palatable? well, i my turkey i put my hands or . you can well, i my turkey i put my hands or. you can use the back of a spoon through , the skin of the spoon through, the skin of the bird and the actual flesh push it right back. and then i pack with butter. wow. herbs like i am and sage and that really nicely. slowly cooks into the actual bird itself . and then you actual bird itself. and then you get a really nice moist breast. pardon me ? can i just say, pardon me? can i just say, barry, i didn't realise how rude you were. i mean , you're very you were. i mean, you're very you're a very talented chef, but you're very x—rated as well . so you're very x—rated as well. so are you are you explaining to me that you lift the skin of the raw turkey and you put butter underneath and then you pull the skin ? okay you cannot you can't skin? okay you cannot you can't pull it back all if you slice the butter while it's cold and
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hard, you can push that in. but then normally what i do is i've mixed the butter with some finely chopped shallots , finely finely chopped shallots, finely chopped finely chopped chopped thyme, finely chopped sage. chopped thyme, finely chopped sage . then put it in sage. and then i put it in a tray into a container set square and then it back in and and then put it back in the and then it thinly while then just slice it thinly while it's or fridge it it's ice cold or fridge cold. it can then just push it underneath the so that then the skin. so all of that then just goes the meat and has just goes into the meat and has flavour and more moisture for the bird. then i think the the bird. and then i think the other as well mean, other thing as well is i mean, i did turkey for a friend last did a turkey for a friend last saturday and we it on, you know , one of those he had the green so like the barbecue outside beautiful stone it only took . beautiful stone it only took. 3 hours and that's you know quite a big like a six, seven kilo turkey . so yeah, this this a big like a six, seven kilo turkey. so yeah, this this is priceless stuff. you know, you're world renowned chef and i'm definitely going to try the butter trick. it sounds brilliant. i had other questions about turkey. i to about the turkey. i want you to know were going to get know if you were going to get leg over. but i just know, leg over. but i just you know, it to it was going to it was going to it was going to end badly. barry, please stay
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with let's my panel in, with us. let's get my panel in, if i can. we've albie if i can. we've got albie amankona who going to be talking about whether whether he likes a christmas dinner and actually horgan—wallace fox . so horgan—wallace and neil fox. so i'll be what will you be eating on the 25th so i imagine i'll be having some turkey actually, which slightly disappointed about because i actually do goose at noon and i would just have a no conversation behind the scenes , which i know we're the scenes, which i know we're not supposed to do about what goose like. and i was actually think goose is one of my favourite bird mates . yes. favourite bird mates. yes. what's better about goose ? i what's better about goose? i think it's because it's got a higher fat content and it's just a lot moist . and i think a lot more moist. and i think one of the common with one of the common problems with is be quite although is that it can be quite although the chef's recipe that he just gave might, might as a resolution for that problem . resolution for that problem. although i've seen horgan—wallace there's mince pies as well . then this pies as well. then this christmas pudding mean this is very palatable, is it? we don't eat mince all year round because they're not that nice they're
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disgusting. horrible love them. oh i don't like them but it's a tradition . you can't change it. tradition. you can't change it. it's like with the turkey don't overcomplicate it and change it too much because it's tradition. you've got to have dry chicken. i mean sorry turkey. you've got to have dry meat on christmas . to have dry meat on christmas. yeah. who does the cooking . your yeah. who does the cooking. your household, neil. whose responsible for handling the bird on the 25th. my wife's good at handling the both as this as . there ever been a more innuendo feed here on your show can i ask before i? don't know what you're talking about, but now traditional in our now it'll be traditional in our household have actually done our in—laws the country but it will be turkey it'll be all the trimmings. mean, someone did trimmings. i mean, someone did say, though, a lot of say, though, there's a lot of panic christmas they panic about. christmas day, they go. just roast effectively. go. it's just roast effectively. it's roast . just roast it's a roast. just roast a turkey or something and have some roast potatoes , veg. you some roast potatoes, veg. you don't have to get over about it. it's just a roast but when it's done beautifully. i love you
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know someone did give me a good tip the other day, by the way, and know what your and i don't know what your guest, thinks this and i don't know what your guerthis thinks this and i don't know what your guerthis is thinks this and i don't know what your guerthis is an hinks this and i don't know what your guerthis is an alternative this one this is an alternative version of pigs in blankets cut the sausage, put a bit of cranberry in there, then some brie, then wrap it up in the bacon. very nice praying. cranberry pigs in blankets to add the delicious ness of add to the delicious ness of your meal raises . a good point. your meal raises. a good point. and i think there's a tv cookery in the offing for you . but but in the offing for you. but but we can all agree the pigs in buying blankets is the one thing we love about christmas dinner, isn't it ? it it is. and i think isn't it? it it is. and i think every household probably does over and above on the pigs in blankets and how many get eaten before they actually get to the get to the table. there is another option that i'm of actually with what you just said is obviously do the pigs in blankets but this is something that i discovered on a trip to spain many years ago served in one of our restaurants. it's actually dates because you mentioned brie inside the sausage meat is dates filled a
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blue cheese like a peacock blue cheese and if you don't like blue cheese normally this works really well because you get the sweetness, the date, and then you it in bacon, fry you wrap it in bacon, you fry them and that's really nice touch. them and that's really nice touch . but quite often how can touch. but quite often how can people find out more about your amazing cooking ? go to my amazing cooking? go to my website, the real barry ferrer .com our our instagram page as well the real barry bear as well anyone's got any questions as well free to ask and i'll help you out through christmas if you need you've reignited my for the christmas dinner but i'm going to do it vera style because it sounds amazing barry vera thank you much. do check out his website. merry christmas as well . we've been asking you on on .we've been asking you on on the show actually . we'll get to the show actually. we'll get to that very shortly. so we do the text poll now would you that we'll do that we'll do later, folks. lots more to get through before the end of the show . is before the end of the show. is britain a destination for tourism? but next, the new james
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bond. we may have the. plus more from the harry and meghan fallouts and much much . kinsey fallouts and much much. kinsey schofield from america is .
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next well eric's lamb this christmas and again this year it will be yum because i think eric has lamb quite often norma is having pork for christmas dinner. i would imagine norma with a bit of crackling as well . good on of crackling as well. good on you. will you stuff the pork ? you. will you stuff the pork? how will you do that? i do think pork is a delicious meat. well, there you go. i'm all for reinventing wheel . lots more reinventing the wheel. lots more to through , including my to get through, including my take at ten at the top of the hour. take at ten at the top of the hour . and the take at ten at the top of the hour. and the dreadful, awful p0p hour. and the dreadful, awful pop star gary glitter is leaving prison halfway through sentence. my views on that surely. but first, it's for us news with the queen of american showbiz political and royal kinsey
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schofield. hi kinsey . gary schofield. hi kinsey. gary glitter news. i even in the states, we can't believe it. it's an absolute and it's an injustice to victims and i'll be deaung injustice to victims and i'll be dealing with at ten. i could probably do with your help kinsey. but let's have a slightly happier topic to start with and a possible new name in the running to be james bond . the running to be james bond. that's right. this is actually really good news for henry cavill because we heard over the last that he was fired as superman . another shocked not superman. another shocked not only us but him because as of october, the studio asked him to announce that he was to become superman or he was going to continue his role as superman. and then recently was terminated that franchise. but guess what ? that franchise. but guess what? james bond is calling now. henry actually tells that he was up for this role previously. it was up against and daniel craig. that's how close got. but now they're saying the two to watch
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are henry aaron taylor—johnson who is another fabulous actor who is another fabulous actor who i'm sure you're familiar with. now gq , we need a new face with. now gq, we need a new face bond, but i think henry could just be the perfect option . he just be the perfect option. he is super handsome. forgive my outrageous ignorance kinsey, but is he a brit or is he american? he's a brit. yeah, right. so he's a brit. he's good looking , he's a brit. he's good looking, got presence, a great body. he ticks all the boxes . and he is ticks all the boxes. and he is you know, the reason don't know thatis you know, the reason don't know that is because he's so notoriously private with his . notoriously private with his. it's cute because millie bobby brown recently said that whenever she does movies with they have an agreement where he does they don't about their personal lives because he is just very and doesn't just very private and doesn't want anybody to maybe repeat something himself that he something about himself that he doesn't want anybody to know . i doesn't want anybody to know. i think henry i think think henry r henry i think harry and meghan take note harry and meghan could take note . you can super famous and. . you can be super famous and. there can be secrets about you. it's there can be mystery is actually it's actually really good your in your good for your brand in your
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career. now don't to spend too career. now i don't to spend too long on harry and meghan because that make some of my that will make some of my viewers the lovely very viewers the lovely andrew very cross but how has the latest instalment of that documentary gone down? the final three episode is , you know, i think episode is, you know, i think they made a huge mistake. they should have flip flop. those episodes love story last that that venom first because people are really taking a hard look at them saying you know you're hanging out at tyler perry's house for free when we were all losing our and getting ticketed by the cops for not wearing a mask outside of our you know you are you are you know crying to the wrong people right now because your idea of a fair life is very unrealistic . liz hurley is very unrealistic. liz hurley in the news in relation to prince harry. tell me more. paul liz hurley oh my gosh . so liz hurley oh my gosh. so apparently one of the big revelation oceans in spare because he had to save something for the bookmark otherwise the check wasn't going to cash is
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that lost virginity to a that harry lost virginity to a much older in the countryside in had the audacity to ask hurley if it was her and she said no, no, absolutely . she wanted to no, absolutely. she wanted to squash that rumour as quickly as it started . so liz hurley is not it started. so liz hurley is not beautiful. older woman that took prince harry's virginity for 57 year old liz hurley. just leave her alone. well, listen let me tell you that my team have hard at work all afternoon doing some investigative journalism to identify who this woman was , identify who this woman was, kinsey, that stole harry's virginity . kinsey, that stole harry's virginity. here are kinsey, that stole harry's virginity . here are the runners virginity. here are the runners and riders . virginity. here are the runners and riders. it could have virginity. here are the runners and riders . it could have been and riders. it could have been cressida bonas . it could have cressida bonas. it could have been chelsea davy . was meghan been chelsea davy. was meghan markle his first? you couldn't rule out. he's been linked to rihanna. was the lady. or if it's somebody . what about dame it's somebody. what about dame judi dench ? experienced she
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judi dench? experienced she knows what she's doing . popular knows what she's doing. popular scottish double the krankies. we know that they very very sexually . twice the fun and but sexually. twice the fun and but not least kinsey schofield . not least kinsey schofield. we've got the smoking gun . she we've got the smoking gun. she did it. please know. i'd rather die in a fire. that pretty definitive answer. look we'll never we'll never know who it was that stole his virginity . was that stole his virginity. and we also don't know who stole his sense of humour either. let's get to some other stories we can. and let's talk about bobby. we can. and let's talk about bobby . the doll we can. and let's talk about bobby. the doll is now a franchise . i mean, i wore the franchise. i mean, i wore the right colour. franchise. i mean, i wore the right colour . right? this is right colour. right? this is greta gerwig's barbie with margot robbie starring in it. she could not have been more perfect cast. did you know that in 2016, amy was actually to lead this movie? what a
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different movie that would have been.thank different movie that would have been. thank god. margot, robbie in with ryan gosling. we also have will ferrell starring in this is coming out this summer but they just dropped trailer. it looks incredible is so excited and the actual theme of movie the storyline top secret so we don't know how that's going to go yet but will ferrell did accidentally that he plays a really bad boss and mattel so that's a lot to look forward to. yeah i mean, obviously the characters are based on barbie and ken and the sexy scenes are going to be rubbish because they don't have private parts. did you know that ? i did. i am not you know that? i did. i am not forward to those scenes. i mean, that's you're exactly right. let's end on a really, really happy story . jane fonda, who is happy story. jane fonda, who is an acting and also a keep fit legend, has had some good news medically. what's what's what's come to light here ? that's come to light here? that's right. in september she told us that she had cancer and this is three months after that admission , learning that she's
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admission, learning that she's in remission. she's absolutely thrilled. couldn't be more thankful with the universe. and you're exactly this is great news. we're happy to hear. there you kinsey , this is you go. listen, kinsey, this is my last saturday, january. and you are , the jewel in this crown you are, the jewel in this crown of , the show. we love you loads. of, the show. we love you loads. you are an amazing broadcaster. fabulous human being and i can't wait for another 12 months of the schofield . oh, i can't wait the schofield. oh, i can't wait to see you in january too. happy holidays . merry christmas. and holidays. merry christmas. and that's a great way to lock you into another year's contracts . into another year's contracts. fabulous. schofield , i'm fabulous. kinsey schofield, i'm sure, will be popping up on the channel great channel christmas. have a great christmas and new year and much love to your to your family and your other half as well. kinsey coming up next in the news agenda with my panel as grant makes a wacky video about energy saving, which we're going to watch our government information films patronising after covid. are you sick of being educated by the. don't go anywhere .
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coming up take at ten i'll be deaung coming up take at ten i'll be dealing with gathering who is getting of his jail term halfway through absolute disgrace. my thoughts on that shortly don't forget the papers 10 minutes earlier than everyone else 1020. but the right honourable grant shapps , the business secretary, shapps, the business secretary, has a rather eccentric video designed to educate the british pubuc designed to educate the british public on how to be more energy efficient this winter . but our efficient this winter. but our government information adds becoming too patronising. take listen. if you're listening to the radio , a watch of this one the radio, a watch of this one and look out for the elf . and look out for the elf. definitely turn that off . what? definitely turn that off. what? i unplug . now, the other thing i unplug. now, the other thing is turn the boiler flow temperature to down 60 degrees.
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it doesn't affect temperature of your house as i did it the other day look what . my day look what. my i put you there just keep out the draft . there just keep out the draft. you again again knock this and the oscar goes to grant shapps for acting secretary of state. i'm going make myself unpopular here , neil. not for the first here, neil. not for the first time like that. actually it was quite sweet, quite funny . we quite sweet, quite funny. we were saying if the point of these information commercial was hs2 to bring awareness to a problem. oh god, he's done a brilliant job because . all we brilliant job because. all we were talking about before we on air was this advert and yeah, you didn't mind it sir, but i just thought it was a bit cringeworthy. i'll tell you what . i don't see the adverts couldn't she. i just think crunchy doing it so. so the crunchy him doing it so. so the advert is quite sweet there
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advert is quite sweet and there some things in it about the 60 degrees turning down turn degrees turning it down and turn the lights unplug them the lights off and unplug them know things on know don't have things on standby all of that good the obviously thing the front obviously the thing the front door got one of those door we've got one of those brilliant. it'sjust door we've got one of those brilliant. it's just him. door we've got one of those brilliant. it'sjust him. this brilliant. it's just him. this is the minister. i don't think how we do we take them how we how do we take them seriously they're making city seriously if they're making city commercials. i them just commercials. i think i them just to be serious and i think with everything we've been through in the years, i mean, the last few years, i mean, certainly you know, the certainly like, you know, the worst obviously worst example is obviously having in the having matt hancock in the jungle you kind of go, i don't want my politicians as celebrities. sort celebrities. i think they sort of blurring the of becoming that blurring the lines what is an mp and yes lines of what is an mp and yes they have to try and talk to people in the way that people are used to receiving motion. so whether whatsapp , twitter whether it's whatsapp, twitter or instagram or watching youtube video, so how people video, so that's how people consume information. now but when they do it like it just felt a bit cheesy . me, you, you felt a bit cheesy. me, you, you are the king of media presentation and it does feel like chic. rishi you know it's true, isn't it? you know, you've made a career out of it and you know how to communicate with
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audiences. this is i think part of the new school politics, the instagram generation you've seen rishi sunak do little video at the start , the world cup, the start, the world cup, getting his stickers ready , getting his stickers ready, putting the wall planner up. yeah. number ten again with little music going on. so i mean this is not an accident. this is a new approach from the government i suppose to humanise the politicians and one thing i would say in defence of the video, i'd rather we'd had that dunng video, i'd rather we'd had that during pandemic which is a during the pandemic which is a government minister look government minister going look here's are here's what covid is, here are the act accordingly. and the facts, act accordingly. and that actually this is what it feels like. i feel like feels like. i don't feel like i'm lectured in this i'm bullied or lectured in this advert. more just are some advert. it's more just are some tips i would feel it in any way. it's patronising saying i think it's actually good information and common sense. obviously a lot of it, but that people will just about hopefully today or whenever they watch it and turn stuff and pull the plugs out and save those little bits. pennies here, pennies there. but it's all i just for me and all important. i just for me and this is we might disagree on this is we might disagree on this one, but maybe i want my
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minutes just to be a little bit more because these are serious subjects. there's serious stuff going and. it's difficult going on and. it's difficult when you've done that. you've got the elf on the shelf to then turn around. if you've got a massive transport problem we have too, then have with the unions too, then also address also try and address that in a serious because can imagine serious because you can imagine , you know, actually on twitter and social they've they've and on social they've they've given him hard time to given him a really hard time to be think they'd give him be fair i think they'd give him a anyway about it but a hard time anyway about it but hey about i'll tell hey we're about it. so i'll tell you what people will. all those things that i you, have things that i seen you, i have been quite when it comes been quite allied when it comes to of the i think to of the i mean, i think probably have the probably all of us have the covid were covid measures which were completely under completely autocratic and under macrotech and were debated. the three national lockdowns for which paying price three national lockdowns for whi(strikes paying price three national lockdowns for whi(strikes asaying price three national lockdowns for whi(strikes as aing price three national lockdowns for whi(strikes as a slightly)rice this strikes as a slightly different tone. this is just a government minister saying, well, look there's an energy crisis. here's how you can save a few save a bit of a few quid and save a bit of energy . yeah, i really energy. yeah, i don't really have lot of people have a problem. a lot of people on twitter, a cool on twitter, i know it's a cool and patronising, but there are a lot stupid , dumb people out lot of stupid, dumb people out there that might know those tips. , myself
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tips. for example, myself included, i didn't know about the turning down of the boiler. the boiler thing . so learned the boiler thing. so learned something. and there are other people out there that don't think to put draft, you know, extract. they call excluded , go extract. they call excluded, go to our eco you know but and as neil said we all talking about it so like or low that it's done the job. yeah i mean neil's point is that he's not the right to do that video do we really want politicians being comedians or actors . well i think what or actors. well i think what i would say about shapps is he's a very effective performer when it comes to the media. he's of the people that was always wheeled out when boris johnson had done something on something naughty. be on the airwaves morning . and airwaves next morning. and actually has got actually grant shapps has got form with this. i don't know if any but he any of you remember, but he actually similar small actually did a similar small about , how about railway announcements, how annoying they were and about how were going to get rid of some of the trade announcements. i if we look at it in the broader spectrum government
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spectrum of what the government are trying to bring down are trying to do to bring down energy it into a broader energy usage, it into a broader strategy down usage strategy to down energy usage of fit end of the fit by 50% by the end of the decade. fit by 50% by the end of the decade . if you think the decade. if you think the government is spending about decade. if you think the government is spending abou decade. if you think the governmymonth pending abou decade. if you think the governmymonth on|ding abou decade. if you think the governmymonth on energyiou billion a month on energy support , if they can save 15% support, if they can save 15% through support, if they can save 15% throug h £20 million campaign, through £20 million campaign, that's a pretty hefty saving of everybody in pounds about yeah to right well there you go if only we'd had grant shapps his witty video for the last two and a half years. i know government by dictator ship i think we'd be in a better place but there you go look . coming up in the next go look. coming up in the next houn go look. coming up in the next hour, full coverage of sunday's papers, including a sneak preview david mannix the preview, david mannix from the express online . exactly. 1020. express online. exactly. 1020. that's 10 minutes earlier that everyone before that might take ten pop scum by gary glitter is only served half his sentence and now walks free. my .
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next it's 10:00. next it's10:00. welcome to mark dolan tonight it might take a ten in just a moment. pop a scumbag gary glitter has only half of his sentence and now he walks free. should throw away the key . we'll catch up with the key. we'll catch up with some of the other big stories of day in the news agenda with my panel. day in the news agenda with my panel . now, here's a shocker, panel. now, here's a shocker, not my words , but a recent not my words, but a recent survey that britain is a crap destination for tourism. what do you think? is britain a good place to visit . and what's your place to visit. and what's your christmas fails? do get in touch and let me know. market gb news uk plus tomorrow's papers live and uninterrupted. 10 minutes earlier than everyone else at. 1020 but not take it turn is on its way and i'm not pulling my punches. but first, the headunes punches. but first, the headlines with the brilliant bethany elsey . thanks,
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bethany elsey. thanks, magnificent mark am. bethany elsey from the gb newsroom. amber weather warnings have been issued for the north of england tomorrow . icy conditions could tomorrow. icy conditions could be risk to life. the met office is expecting rain, snow and, ice to cause dangerous driving conditions as disruption to pubuc conditions as disruption to public transport and possibly air travel . yellow weather air travel. yellow weather warnings are in place for. most of the uk with winter conditions expected to cause further travel disruption . a woman who was disruption. a woman who was injured in a crowd crush at the brixton o2 injured in a crowd crush at the brixton 02 has now died . 33 year brixton 02 has now died. 33 year old rebecca akumu from new in london , newham in east london, london, newham in east london, surrey was injured when ticketless fans to force their way into the music venue. two other women aged 21 and 23, remain in a condition in hospital . the nigerian remain in a condition in hospital. the nigerian artist ishak , he was performing that ishak, he was performing that night, says he's devastated by the incident and overwhelmed with grief . the rmt is accusing
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with grief. the rmt is accusing westminster of being the odd one out in the long running pay dispute , with rail workers after dispute, with rail workers after deals have been agreed in both wales and in wales for rail unions have agreed to a pay rise with 4.5% over nine months. it says 40,000 staff in england continued with a day of strike action this week . crippling action this week. crippling network rail services and 14 other rail operator's . the other rail operator's. the department for transport is the rmt union to reconsider their position . nhs bosses are warning position. nhs bosses are warning hospitals must free up beds ahead of planned industrial action by crews in england , action by crews in england, urging the government and unions to resolve the dispute before . to resolve the dispute before. the first day of action on wednesday , nhs data shows one in wednesday, nhs data shows one in six patients are waiting more than an hour to be transferred . than an hour to be transferred. ambulance to a&e care . former ambulance to a&e care. former cabinet minister dr. fox, who worked as a gp , says the system worked as a gp, says the system needs an overhaul . we need in my
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worked as a gp, says the system needs an to go back to our concept of convalescent hospitals and think that we need to ensure that people are getting the appropriate care because if you've got people occupying those beds who don't need to be there, it matter how much money you pour into the system, you're not to get that's not going to get the that's appropriate police and evidence have issued a safety warning after several calls about playing on frozen lakes . the playing on frozen lakes. the warning follows the deaths . four warning follows the deaths. four boys who fell into a lake at bob smale park and nearly a week ago , hundreds of people turned up for a vigil this afternoon in memory of them on tv, online and tv plus radio. this is gb news now let's get back to . now let's get back to. mark thanks, bethany. we'll see you in an hour. still to come on mark dolan tonight in the news
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agenda with my panel is britain agenda with my panel is britain a crap destination tourism and your christmas present fails all of those stories tonight and many more. oh actress commentator ashley hall can wallace political broad caster and writer albie amankona and deejay and tv presenter broadcasting legend neil fox. plus, tomorrow's papers and uninterrupted. 10 minutes earlier than everyone else . earlier than everyone else. 1020, right through 11. i want to hear you throughout mark at gb news dot uk. lots to through don't forget the papers at 1020. but first my take . at ten. but first my take. at ten. serial psycho gary glitter is making an unwelcome comeback . making an unwelcome comeback. this convicted has served a measly half of his sentence and gets to walk out of prison scot
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free whilst his victims spend the rest of their lives imprisoned in the legacy of his abuse. imprisoned in the legacy of his abuse . to add insult to injury abuse. to add insult to injury glitter has accrued hundreds thousands of pounds whilst in cancer off the back of music royalties so he's laughing the criminal justice system he's at his victims and he's laughing all the way the bank. it's time country got serious about crime. rapeis country got serious about crime. rape is so diabolically underreported . it's not too much underreported. it's not too much of a stretch to say it's been effectively decriminalised to sexually attack another human being is the most agreed types of crimes. second only to murder except if you've been murdered at least you don't have to live with the memory of what happened to you . and for an adults to to you. and for an adults to assault a child or minor is something to which must show .
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something to which must show. zero tolerance. if you get 60 years, you serve 16 years, you don't out halfway through because you are an orderly . how because you are an orderly. how can you possibly good behaviour and in the same sentence as to assault a child to rob them of their innocence and to leave them with devasted eating emotional and physical scars is the lowest the low so sentence is must be the highest of the high. it'sjust unimaginably high. it's just unimaginably appalling crime. anyone that does , in my view, leaves their does, in my view, leaves their rights at the door . lock them rights at the door. lock them up, throw away key. anything that means they can't hurt anyone else again. must be the priority . gary glitter is known priority. gary glitter is known as a glam rock star, but there's nothing glamorous about his crimes quite opposite. his a pop comeback. i never want to see .
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comeback. i never want to see. let's get reaction now to my take your ten from my all star panel take your ten from my all star panel. ashley horgan—wallace. i'll be among conor and neil fox . let me start with you, alby. if can this man walks free having served half his sentence and ruined several young lives . and ruined several young lives. i just think some of the decisions that get taken on these parole are interesting to say the least. how someone who has been a convicted who actually has a criminal offences in a variety of different countries. the united kingdom , countries. the united kingdom, vietnam dating all the way back to 2002 say 20 years ago can walk after being a convicted after just serving half of his sentence is pretty unbelievable to me. i do think that full sentences should be served . i sentences should be served. i think that should be the toughest possible sanctions and penalties for people who are .
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penalties for people who are. yes. ashley hogan , what's your yes. ashley hogan, what's your view on this? i know if he actually i think he skipped go in towards the parole board i might be wrong that but that's i think that's what happened . i think that's what happened. i think that's what happened. i think it's an absolute it's i was getting teary i was listening to your monologue . listening to your monologue. it's just disgusting . he was it's just disgusting. he was sent to prison for four months before any of actual sexual offences for child on his computer . offences for child on his computer. now four months for what must have been the start . what must have been the start. well, who knows how far back it went , but well, who knows how far back it went, but that's well, who knows how far back it went , but that's where he got went, but that's where he got caught. if he'd have had a longer sentence that moment, perhaps other poor children wouldn't have their lives devastated by him and his disgusting acts . and you see disgusting acts. and you see time and again, people get longer sentences for, i don't know, robbing a bank. longer sentences for, i don't know, robbing a bank . you know, know, robbing a bank. you know, if you if you've damaged a child, a defenceless child
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physically. mentally scarred them for life , i'm going to get them for life, i'm going to get upset. so i'm feel so strongly about it. you need to be tough and find ways case. so i'm sorry to get emotional, but it's something something for him to get out on poor children's lives and never going to be the same again . it'sjust and never going to be the same again . it's just abhorrent and again. it's just abhorrent and yeah, it makes me feel sick and like i say, i'm repeating myself out of court longer. like i say, i'm repeating myself out of court longer . the like i say, i'm repeating myself out of court longer. the first time he was caught. out of court longer. the first time he was caught . and none of time he was caught. and none of this is he sees out his days. ashley as a very wealthy man , ashley as a very wealthy man, that's that disgusting. take his money and give it to the victims. you know it's disgusting. why? why mean you know, his crimes are truly horrific. why has it touched for you?i horrific. why has it touched for you? i don't know . you know, you? i don't know. you know, i've experienced something not quite as horrific , but when quite as horrific, but when i was younger and i've known friends that have experienced the same and, it's just i saw no
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justice and a lot of my friends saw no justice. as you said in your monologue , rape is so to your monologue, rape is so to convict people with and children so defenceless they can't for themselves. we need to fight for them, well , to try to write to them, well, to try to write to write an amen . everything you write an amen. everything you said you speak for a nation, i think, doesn't she, neil? she does. and actually, while were doing your monologue, which was very forceful and strong, i know really could literally not agree with every word you said i could sense. ashley her body language and energy oh, no, no, no please i saw you have no need to apologise. it's horrible. horrible topic isn't . but you horrible topic isn't. but you could sense about it don't we neil. yeah. and you know obviously bring it up , you know obviously bring it up, you know the word rape we it a lot and obviously the conviction rate is very, very low as know and how that be improved , i don't know
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that be improved, i don't know because i'm not in policing, but it's obviously something that needs to be talked and needs to be a that isn't brushed under the carpet . there are a lot of the carpet. there are a lot of people clearly affected by this and. obviously, one of our panel is as well. and it's an emotional topic. clearly, it really is. neil, you've been in music broadcasting for a long, long time, even though you do look about 36. does doesn't it? doesn't it? the peter pan of radio. but but probably encounter this guy and course no one had a clue what he was up to in the seventies in the a huge star yeah and this time of year it's strange of course because you know his was one of the perennial christmas songs that people used to play not any longer clearly . i people used to play not any longer clearly. i mean it's interesting that said obviously while he's been what he's been in jail for eight years, he's accruing a lot of royalties from the songs that are not played in this country at all, but obviously all played around the world still . surprisingly, i
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world still. surprisingly, i have to. and so i guess he does come out probably to a royalty check. but yeah . suppose you check. but yeah. suppose you ever interview him? have you ever interview him? have you ever encountered the guy because i'm sure he was a very a very conniving and two faced man who who could probably anybody. i have to say , never did know. have to say, never did know. i ended up on a tv show when i was a kid with his band, but never him. no, i didn't know. an awful story . parallels of jemmy, story. parallels of jemmy, savile look a tough conversation . emails are coming in thick and fast on this one, andrew says hi, mark. the problem is that we don't have justice system. we have a legal system .judges have have a legal system. judges have to work within the law. the law , the problem. we'd love to talk about this, too. that's andy and do have a one. if i got to. yeah there's a couple of there's one supporter of email of gary glitter and i apologise because i don't have your name to hand but did get an email earlier
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from a lady who said that his crimes are very bad, that he's served his time. crimes are very bad, that he's served his time . so thank you served his time. so thank you for your views are for your view. all views are welcome. everything welcome. we debate everything and no one way track on and there's no one way track on any conversation . lots more to any conversation. lots more to come . next up, a sneak preview come. next up, a sneak preview of tomorrow's papers. see you shortly .
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the papers just a second, but we have a problem . many amazing have a problem. many amazing emails . thank you so much. it is emails. thank you so much. it is the highlight of show when you get in touch market gb news dot uk. shall i just try to through these glitter . patrick in these gary glitter. patrick in nottinghamshire . hello patrick. nottinghamshire. hello patrick. how are you. what a fine name . how are you. what a fine name. did you know was born on st did you know i was born on st patrick's day and everyone asks why are you not called patrick? and i think my mum said it's too irish because she's irish. so she's allowed to say that she didn't want me to get called all
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the time. dolan is an irish, a very irish heritage . yeah, very proud irish heritage. yeah, that's where really from. by that's where i'm really from. by the ireland. do love the way, ireland. but i do love this country. i'm a as. as this country. i'm a brit as. as are all us. anyway, enough waffling for me. let's get to patrick's mark. gary has been abusing children since the and he should have been locked up for the of his life. there's no words to describe how disgusting that man is and the fact that he's walking free after eight years beggars belief. alternatively put a room alternatively put him in a room with members of the with family members of the children that will children abused. and that will be justice to adrian, your sentiments towards glitter. i understand double. but why don't you say the same about the trans community who talk little boys into chemically castrating themselves and removing their genitals and little girls into slicing off their breasts? well, adrian, you're right an idea, but you're absolutely right to point that out. and of course it's a it's just kind of a few really, isn't it, like the tavistock centre who have been unked tavistock centre who have been linked to this sort of madness, the mermaids charity , teenagers,
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the mermaids charity, teenagers, chest flattening devices to stop them developing breasts. the world's gone mad . andy says. the world's gone mad. andy says. the problem is, we don't have a justice system. we have a legal system. and it's all failing on grant shapps. so grant shapps business secretary has done an advert telling us , turn down the advert telling us, turn down the boiler. i it's quite charming. i'm not cross about. boiler. i it's quite charming. i'm not cross about . however, i'm not cross about. however, adrian says hi mark. i recently turned my boiler flo temperature up from 70 to 77. it didn't alter how long it took to heat up the room so. i turned it back down. now, after seeing the shop's video, i'll try it at 60, but do i need to buy a gun to sort out the elf and says right there, i'm right there with grant shapps as a visiting for the dwp can assure you that visiting when i visit people on low incomes in their they waste energy left right and centre as adverts about taking water on the tube. sometimes the obvious is necessary. another quick one on gary glitter. hi, mark from jacqueline. it's disgusting that
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gary glitter has only done half prison sentence. forgive the language but that sack of should have done every day of its . have done every day of its. there you go. well, look, jackie's not her punches and jackie's not her punches and jackie , you won't be edited. not jackie, you won't be edited. not on my watch . well, there you go. on my watch. well, there you go. i could one day i want to do a show. why? i only read your emails because it's always brilliant if you a couple of christmas dinner ones i was asking or the big question is christmas dinner over rated and so we have got some cracking responses to that let us get them that we just didn't fire up emails here deborah all traditional christmas lunch is goose the americans introduce turkey these mark i made 64 pigs in blankets last forjust turkey these mark i made 64 pigs in blankets last for just five meat eaters and they were all gone by boxing they would they just they jump in your mouth their they they absolutely and how about this a note on kinsey schofield he's a brilliant us
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correspondent on the world of us politics. showbiz royalty. david says hi mark. i don't know if mrs. dolan watches your show, but she must a little jealous when you say hi kinsey. every night you're playing a dangerous game. david, let me clear. full disclosure, i've been trying to have an affair with kinsey's for years now and. i've completely failed. okay it's that time and early sneak peek at tomorrow's papers. 10 minutes earlier than everyone . and i'm delighted to everyone. and i'm delighted to get to the first of those stories. now, what have we got? the independent. okay, let's have a look at indie well done team for getting this one ready at speed . and here it comes at warp speed. and here it comes now. courtesy of fe in the gallery . awful, awful story , gallery. awful, awful story, appalling tragedy, tributes for victim of consett crush nursing graduate rebecca echo melo , a graduate rebecca echo melo, a mother of two, was killed outside the o2 academy in brixton. this was a concert in south london at ended in tragedy
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a beautiful woman leaves behind two children. rebecca acquavella there no words really. i've got to say . also patients on mental to say. also patients on mental health wards dying from neglect , a systemic failure to, provide bafic , a systemic failure to, provide basic physical care on the nhs mental wards , killing patients mental wards, killing patients across the country . scores of across the country. scores of warnings from coroners over the last decade , great journalism last decade, great journalism there from the and the . sunday there from the and the. sunday home secretary. no more channel tragedies. home secretary a problem and pledges to bring an end to migrant tragedies as she sets out her battle plan to take back control of britain's borders . also, prince william borders. also, prince william drops in his country wedding. those are a couple of pages. let's get reaction now from . one let's get reaction now from. one of my favourite journalists in the country, he is the political editor , the express , david editor, the express, david maddox. hi, david hi, mark. how are . i'm very well. and maddox. hi, david hi, mark. how are. i'm very well. and a maddox. hi, david hi, mark. how are . i'm very well. and a very, are. i'm very well. and a very, very strong a robust and
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important story on the front page of paper tomorrow, which i know you've just put to bed. home secretary . no more channel home secretary. no more channel tragedies because there is the point that the illegal crossings are an economic and national security headache. but they are also a humanitarian . yes, they also a humanitarian. yes, they are. and i think this side of the whole channel crossing is often , especially by those want often, especially by those want us to keep borders and the happy for all these people to be landing our beaches. you know behind these crossings are some particularly malicious criminal gangs are actually when they bnng gangs are actually when they bring people over quite often put them into slave labour women into prostitution and that's and of course putting these people's at risk in the channel but actually earlier in process crossing over often libya to
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italy . and we've had tragedies italy. and we've had tragedies there too. so really i think suella braverman again is focusing on the rights issue . focusing on the rights issue. has she got the chops as home secretary to deliver do you think? does she have the conviction? does she have the intellect? does she have the work ethic? what's what's your appraisal of suella braverman . appraisal of suella braverman. because i think she's got the second most important job in the country the moment. yes to the prime minister. she has. and a i've always been a fan of suella braverman. i think she certainly has got the intellect she's certainly got the courage go through with things and the conviction. i mean this somebody on a slightly different issue but some of the from brexit was one of the spartans who refused to compromise and she's you know she's not somebody who backs down all. the issue for her as as is true with her predecessor priti is whether the home office
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civil servants whether downing and the others who to support her will give of a proper support. i'm convinced footprint pretty would have done a lot of these things had she have for proper support. indeed so i've got no doubt that's true including the rwanda plan. david maddox in my big opinion monologue , i've suggested that monologue, i've suggested that it's do or die for rishi sunak in the next couple of months. britain in the grip of a winter of discontent. he's got to stand up to the trade unions. i've suggested that should give the nurses something. and i know that's your view at the express as well . but think he's as well. but but i think he's got to say to the rmt union and of course the civil servants . of course the civil servants. god knows who else. i'm so sorry . country's broke and we can't ramp up inflation . so he's got ramp up inflation. so he's got to get tough with the unions and he's got to get tough with do. good and the blob who will try to allow those illegal crossings to allow those illegal crossings to happen across channel. what about the prime. can he have his
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falklands moment? can he be tough? because it will define his premiership, won't it? it certainly will. and i don't think he's got any choice, even if he steps back on these things with the nurses. i mean where the express is supporting nurses to a certain degree, but, you know, if he starts handing out 20% pay increase this he's going to get himself into enormous trouble. he's got to firm. but, you know , week i weekly tracker you know, week i weekly tracker poll show that there'd been a big narrowing of the gap between conservatives and labour and the main reason for that seems to be the strikes and actually the fact that the government is standing up to the strikes and of course labour inevitably they're all the place on the issue . so i think actually issue. so i think actually working for him so he should just look at the data and just see where he is he's got two years that he's got to prove himself. you're right. in the next two or three months and
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shove, there's a real prime minister. yeah. briefly, what's shove, there's a real prime mini:view(eah. briefly, what's shove, there's a real prime mini:view(eah. bcharacter?t's your view of his character? i mean, he's only been in the commons since 2015. you commons since 2015. but, you know, he a guy? is he know, is he a guy? is he a conviction politician ? could he conviction politician? could he be margaret . thatcher 2.0 or be margaret. thatcher 2.0 or a be margaret. thatcher 2.0 or a be very surprised if it is margaret thatcher point zero. i think he's a very amenable man. i think he's more of a kind of side of the party. but then again, this a guy who postponed his own kind of career political career by supporting brexit. going back to that, i first met him an hour after he told david cameron to get on supporting and same ideas supporting leave . so same ideas supporting leave. so i've always had a high regard for him as a conviction politician . the issue for him is politician. the issue for him is whether he's willing do stuff now where he's willing kind of push ahead and do what's and has the strength to you know, to see through like the strikes and perhaps look again some of these
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economic measures his chancellor has brought in. but we'll see. it's do or die for dishy rishi. it's do or die for dishy rishi. it looks like a cracking paper tomorrow. the sun express, of course, it's 24 seven online. you are you are it's political editor of . before you go just editor of. before you go just a few seconds this is a really tough question and i do want compromise at all compromise you at all professionally or within your social but it's christmas overrated . certainly not not in overrated. certainly not not in my house i do the cooking in my house my . my first job was house my. my first job was actually running kitchen up in scotland. so i never cooked definitely not overrated and i have to say that completely with deborah through duva about goose we always have goose in romantic household every christmas day for traditional english and none of your thank you very much leave that to the americans in that case send your address and i'll be round with a bottle of plonk. happy christmas and happy new year to david. i can't wait
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to see you in 2023. what david maddox there. next up, we've got all of sunday's papers with panel reaction . see you shortly .
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all the big names speak to mark tonight. just a few weeks ago, jacob last night. lord michael howard, former leader of the conservative party. we had hayley huff the other day, tim farron , leader of the lib dems. farron, leader of the lib dems. all the big names, well, we've got a mic drop you tomorrow night mart meets father christmas. oh life in the studio and. and let me tell you, it will be no holds barred i'm not pulling my punches and it will be child friendly. so you are welcome to keep the kids up for that because we are going to a proper chat with the most famous man in the world, father christmas live on show from christmas live on the show from mark meet special at 10:00 be
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there or be square and you can there or be square and you can the kids watch do not worry they're safe in my hands okay it's they're safe in my hands okay wsfime they're safe in my hands okay it's time for this. they're safe in my hands okay it's time for this . it's just it's time for this. it's just gone 1030. so we've got all the papers and where shall we? kurlansky okay, the observer and at what they're leading with nurses pledge new strikes as nhs crisis deepens union leaders threatened last night to order a fresh wave of severe strikes in the new year in which nurses would offer less generous support inside hospitals . would offer less generous support inside hospitals. in a dramatic escalation , their pay dramatic escalation, their pay dispute with the government's also tories at risk of right wing insurgency donor warns the conservative party is under threat from a right insurgency after dragging to the left under rishi sunak peter grosz. the pair has given the party more tha n £3 million, said the
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than £3 million, said the conservatives . no longer a conservatives. no longer a centre right party sunak, adding that he refused back it financially until it changed course . also, massie's moment, course. also, massie's moment, by the way, one of football's greatest stars, lionel messi of argentina gets ready for the world cup final and it's france versus i'll be asking the panel who they but i think it's argentina for because i think who they but i think it's that would be the final piece in the jigsaw for the greatest player of all time. this sunday telegraph now forces are not speck for strikes . the armed speck for strikes. the armed forces are not spare at capacity forces are not spare at capacity for striking workers . the chief for striking workers. the chief of the defence staff said, cautioning against relying on the military as the ultimate backstop in industrial action . backstop in industrial action. admiral sir tony rudkin, head of britain's armed forces , said it britain's armed forces, said it would be slightly perilous . would be slightly perilous. expect them to be used routes keenly in the event of strikes by. public sector workers. police chiefs want to stop first time coke offenders . sighs of
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time coke offenders. sighs of relief from my production team . relief from my production team. and what they you a good long shift out of them. i love to private school but well mobility and the story in the telegraph and the story in the telegraph and sunak takes all netflix amid harry and mcenroe . oh, my harry and mcenroe. oh, my goodness. well, let's look at that rishi sunak sunak give the broadcast watchdog the power to take netflix for the first time amid a row about accuracy in the harry and meghan documentary series are planning to pass a new law that would bring all streaming services under the jurisdiction of ofcom and hand it the power to impose of up to £250,000. we discussed shortly . £250,000. we discussed shortly. next, it's the sun on sunday here we go. britney's dad my legal saved her life. well that's spin, isn't it? and harry and meg shock. we a royal apology . prince harry and meg shock. we a royal apology. prince harry and and meg shock. we a royal apology . prince harry and wife apology. prince harry and wife meghan wants a royal apology
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after insulted charity . boss. after insulted charity. boss. ngozi fulani received one at the palace. they're said to be furious after royal aides set up a reconciliation meeting with ms. fulani but have not done the same with . the sussexes. the same with. the sussexes. the time's next. and let's have a look at what they are leading with . sussexes want royal with. sussexes want royal summits to address grievances. interesting interesting story there. and get to another story from , the sunday times. guys, if from, the sunday times. guys, if you could do me a little cheeky print out of the sunday times , print out of the sunday times, get a couple of other of get to a couple of other of those . next up , wish we those stories. next up, wish we go next. the daily star sunday. it's a world exclusive . got to it's a world exclusive. got to have faith. psychic reveals george michael's ended bitter feud with barry manilow from beyond the grave . the late great beyond the grave. the late great george michael been in touch from the other side as a psychic to tell the world he's no longer feuding with barry manilow. it be magic. and those are your
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front pages reacting to them. are actress and columnist ashley horgan—wallace should also entrepreneur and reality star done everything. we also have political commentator and co—founder of against racism albie amankona broadcasting legend neil fox . lots of stories legend neil fox. lots of stories to get through . a juicy to get through. a juicy political one for you, alby . political one for you, alby. tories at risk of a right wing insurgency . well, the headline insurgency. well, the headline is at risk there are plenty of conservative supporters this who could only dare dream of a right wing insurgency at this very woke tory party. oh well i. have an issue with the way that peter cruddas actually posed this question , because if we look at question, because if we look at the polls the moment and we actually look at where the 2019 vote is have gone to in terms the polling, they haven't gone to reform uk . they've gone to reform uk. they've gone straight to the labour party . so straight to the labour party. so i actually think quite often there is just this discussion about a threat to the
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conservative party from the right. but actually when we look at the polling, it seems the threat to conservative party is from and i think from the centre and i think policy a lot of conservative party policy has been driven by what some argue is this image , what some argue is this image, every threat from the right. and yes, it was a very problem, but nigel farage frontline politics. he's no longer frontline politics. so i it would be wise for the conservative party really to focus on that, on centrist wing of voters who have gone left. the conservative and gone left. the conservative and gone straight to labour rather than be too concerned about right insurgency. the tory has not been very concerned services in the last few years, though. i mean, look at pandemic measures which pretty much follow the pattern of the communist party . pattern of the communist party. china lockdowns mask mandates , china lockdowns mask mandates, vaccine tyranny . and of course vaccine tyranny. and of course we've seen the government splashed the cash effects of communism in relation to furlough paying people to stay at home. some think of the modern party the tory party as
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quite woke and, very left wing, big tax and big spend, which of course we know the case following the latest mini budget. the conservative is undoubtedly in a difficult position at the moment. it's fighting this the secular trend that we see in the developed world of an ageing population and a lower and a shrinking force. yeah, which essentially means that over time governments have to kick out a tax, a workforce more and more and more in order to pay for an ageing population. that's not an easy antidote for that and that leads to perpetual high taxes and perpetually high spending. the party that is able solve that we will be winning general elections throughout the next century . so you don't feel that century. so you don't feel that the tory party has drifted too much the left . i would say much to the left. i would say the secular trend of an ageing population , a shrinking labour population, a shrinking labour force, is pushing politics. but but but but what about sort of weak delivering the potential advantages and benefits of brexit. what about weak on policing our borders ? of policing our borders? of a thousand people landing on our
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shores illegally day. again, it doesn't sound very conservative doesn't sound very conservative doesn't there are definitely things this conservative party needs to do to get control of things obviously very important need needs back under control. what's happening the english channel that's a relatively problem. we've got to remember that this problem exists. exit came into force because essentially theresa may's government and indeed the home secretary at the time was so successful at closing the lorry route. so then people crossing the channel now trying to go through all of these matters , through all of these matters, try and stop people from crossing the channel. actually, i think this is a which is i don't think this is a which is insurmountable for the government . think they can government. think if they can potentially leave the channel, for example and get that rwanda plan going properly and also cooperate better with the french, perhaps as something which could be something potentially successful with the i mean, forgive me for grilling you about this, but you are a prominent member of the conservative movement movement, the of conservatives
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the founder of the conservatives racism just in terms of so we've talked about tax burden. we talked about the tax burden. we talked about the tax burden. we talked about the borders. talked about about the borders. why richard tice and why why is richard tice and why aren't reform uk having such an impact? i think i read today that they're now the third biggest by but again, i biggest party by but again, i come back to my initial point, which that this from the right if actually look at 2019 voters are moving their votes through the polling it is to the party it's not necessarily to or ukip will reclaim . it is they are will reclaim. it is they are going mostly , but it's not going mostly, but it's not filling a gap in the market that should fulfilled and filled by the tories. i think there is an argument to say that richard tice, his the reform party up friends lots of people in the reform party are a gap of a certain wing of conservatism . certain wing of conservatism. you don't think it's critical conservative party is a broad church . i do not think this this church. i do not think this this threat from the right is critical as it was during brexit
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years. i don't think it is as critical. it was in 2009 when actually we literally would have won that election had . the won that election had. the brexit party stood in the 2019 general election. that election have been won. now the situation is different. brexit has happened and essentially people voting based on. they want this government to be gone. so essentially the votes have gone straight from the labour party in the polls. so it's right for the conservative in the polls to the conservative in the polls to the labour party actually need to get lot of emails saying why can't we have a conservative government again ? and they don't government again? and they don't feel rishi sunak's feel that. rishi sunak's conservatives those . conservatives represent those. what's your view ? i don't know. what's your view? i don't know. i was glad that you asked him because i wasn't lost . but he's because i wasn't lost. but he's not using the word lost . so many not using the word lost. so many people feel politically lost. and that is something that both labour and tories need to address . i'm labour and tories need to address. i'm surprised that you said that, that the and going straight to the party that be a different , you know, a middle different, you know, a middle ground to go straight over to the labour party . quite. it is.
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the labour party. quite. it is. it is. i'll be before i come. certainly it is all in flux now, isn't it. because you know, life long voters supported long labour voters supported bofis in long labour voters supported boris in 2019. i think boris johnson in 2019. i think of them are not that fond of keir starmer won't forgive him for trying to reverse brexit. so the traditional political spectrum does not come into play . no, i think left divide . no, i think the left divide actually broke down brexit. and actually broke down brexit. and actually i think one of the things that we saw after brexit really was this divide very much along brexit lines . we see along brexit lines. we see a similar divide when it comes to a lot of culture war debates. you have got this whole narrative around globalists anti—globalist really falling on the same lines as that. brexit debates. i really do think that will be the dividing line through british in the future. and of course we've the labour party a much more brexiteer party take a much more brexiteer approach to things . they want to approach to things. they want to rejoin the european single , they rejoin the european single, they want economy off want to wean the economy off immigration sounding just nigel farage nigel farage is actually had a huge impact on british politics and i think a lot of
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people don't necessarily take that into account when they're heanng that into account when they're hearing keir starmer talking today. hearing keir starmer talking today . it sounds like nigel hearing keir starmer talking today. it sounds like nigel in 2010. neil? what you 2010. right, neil? what you think? well, look, it's think? yeah. well, look, it's very i think sort of what very i think the sort of what i normal politics stop it when brexit happened because very true the brexit people think now the brexit was the conservatives the brexit was the conservatives the conservatives offered people the conservatives offered people the vote right the vote as you can see was the nation literally it wasn't about party politics it wasn't about party politics it them over that vote and i don't ever recovered it was just beginning after boris had come in and right. he managed to get us out . brexit happened then of us out. brexit happened then of covid happened. and then . and covid happened. and then. and then actually to start with were i think he was dealing it in what i would say quite a conservative way. then of course that felt like there was a backlash from around the world we can't actually in a way just act this. no, we've got to lock people down that's what people down because. that's what everyone's , we everyone's doing. so we felt, we so and that's literally so and said and that's literally where we are. that hasn't ended that long that's causing
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that long ago. that's causing problems. then we've got a war in ukraine, all these things. it's like normal service has not been resumed yet and i think it'll be now. we've got a winter of discontent. this like when of discontent. this is like when i in the i a teenager back in the seventies doing homework seventies doing my homework by candlelight , my god, candlelight it's like, my god, please need to move please no. because need to move on the what is it? 50 years ago. we need to on. please from we need to move on. please from that and i'm hoping and what rishi done he got back in rishi has done he got back in was or since he took over was actually made it slightly i can i say slightly boring again slightly calm things down so that it wasn't insane headlines single day it was yes things have a lot calmer but we have to sort this out now. this is a problem and will normal politics be into 2023 and 24? i think everything moves. i think what people of as conservatives and labour the world's changing people changing and i think parties will have to change and adapt most certainly quick one in the sunday times ashlin . i am in the sunday times ashlin. i am not permitted to publish
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anything, says hans covid. teller will ever actually get the truth about the source of this pandemic the origins of it. will we get the truth about lockdowns about vaccines, about mask mandates ? don't think so, mask mandates? don't think so, because then now ban public outrage and riots and. god knows what else. because a lot of it, i feel, was just for control and for other reasons, and not because i mean, obviously, it was a it's covid is bad, but it was a it's covid is bad, but it was just too stringent . and i was just too stringent. and i don't think the truth will ever come out now. and the scandal is that those who speculated the origins of the virus were ostracised. sometimes even fired from their jobs at taken off twitter, had their merits yet and you'll do conspiracy theories not that they said . theories not that they said. well it's just possible that covid came the wuhan coronavirus laboratory in wuhan could be one
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line of inquiry, and that was enough to get you cancelled two years ago? yeah then open. let's, let's have an open inquiry and get to the root of it. but i don't as i say i don't it. but i don't as i say i don't it will ever the truth will never surface, i don't know neil, i don't, i don't think the society, the truth will ever officially out because i don't think if we my personal is if we found out the truth, i think we'd all be too annoyed. i think would be irritated . do you think would be irritated. do you think the mistakes were made and a lot of it has been a misjudgement? yeah, i think so. and i think we're already beginning. find that out. i don't think that's too controversial. and i think the reaction we've had to, the reaction that we've had to, you , to being lockdown, to you know, to being lockdown, to being controlled in that way, i, i think it was unnecessary. i think was unnecessary. we found that out now we know who sadly got by it and who didn't. that out now we know who sadly got by it and who didn't . and got by it and who didn't. and obviously we didn't all need to be down really . but it's be down really. but it's happened and we all know where we are. right. as that wonderful expression goes. so we have to
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find way of moving on. well said. an to lots more to said. an to that. lots more to come before the end of the show britain a crap tourism and we'll be discussing present fails when have family or friends let you down. plus a couple more big from the papers. don't go anywhere .
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very well he's is coming in and what's great about my panellists that half of you agree with them half of you don't. a bit of pushback to what some of some of i'll be comments this pamela i do not agree with alby regarding the conservatives i don't want as our prime minister, i don't trust him . i really like suella trust him. i really like suella braverman and hope she leaves the ec and i will be voting for uk . couple more emails on that. uk. couple more emails on that. elaine mark, you've been so cheeky tonight , but alby has it
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cheeky tonight, but alby has it wrong? reform red wants a new party. typical conservative member. okay. well, there go. thank you very much for those emails. let's crack on now because the clocks against us in britain, we've got scarborough's and 1's and skegness beautiful places to go on holiday. but according to the telegraph , uk according to the telegraph, uk is the sick man of europe when it comes to tourism is the army . you know i love going on a cornish holiday, but it number one on my list when we got out of lockdown and if were being completely honest of all the destinations around the world why would we want to go after covid number one probably wasn't the uk so not surprised to see these results have come out that say that are saying the uk is struggling when it comes to tourism. just hope it recovers tourism. i just hope it recovers very quickly with obviously tourists in a lot money tourists bring in a lot of money for the economy. well ago for the economy. well a few ago i in cumbria, neil, one of i was in cumbria, neil, one of the most beautiful on the most beautiful places on earth. i do have earth. yeah however, i do have one criticism country
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one criticism of the country i love. expensive . yeah, love. it's so expensive. yeah, we have become very expensive and although well, it depends where you come from. so for americans or anyone from at the moment we are cheap. let's be honest we are much better value at the moment of exchange at the moment of the exchange rate. never seen the rate. i have never seen the central london as busy ever as it is now. so that's good. i'll tell you what, the tourists definitely in now for christmas, which is great. we're a beautiful country just we literally today booked a holiday to devon. we can't wait next summer. i love going in this country. amazing place. country. we're an amazing place. but they with a but i think what they with a sick of europe just we sick man of europe it's just we haven't figures are haven't what the figures are saying great headline but saying it's great headline but they haven't recovered they just haven't recovered quite to pre 2019 quite as quickly to pre 2019 levels as other european nations perhaps has that's your favourite place to in the uk . favourite place to in the uk. wow. oh gosh you like me do you. seaside or do you go big cities. yeah, i don't go anywhere in the uk if . i'm yeah, i don't go anywhere in the uk if. i'm honest. i prefer to get on a plane and be someone's dubaior get on a plane and be someone's dubai or nothing for. you know, icannot
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dubai or nothing for. you know, i cannot stand dubai. i can. you can't even me to go there. so call comes from i like to tell it but no but britain's amazing for tourists from america for example or china you know we've got royal family we've got the architecture of . it's beautiful. architecture of. it's beautiful. i've got a shocking shocking story for you in the daily star to finish on. and this is knock off perfume being sold as christmas across the country found to contain which is a poison human urine . so it begs poison human urine. so it begs the question christmas present fails have you either bought a terrible present or received one. i bought you this aftershave i'm gutted that this is i actually bought i've got up yeah i've got you . you got me yeah i've got you. you got me a jar of this. yeah literally. oh, the talking . that is, if i the talking. that is, if i decide to end old is plenty of cyanide in there . there you go . cyanide in there. there you go. but i mean, it's a bit of a dark heart presents, right? isn't it the worst thing? i think you can do, neil, is with with your lady
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which is to buy the outfit which is wrong because if is the wrong size because if it's too small you make her feel fat. yeah. if it's too big telling her is fat. yeah. telling her she is fat. yeah. well it's okay. no. when really it's the at i do know my it's the at least i do know my wife's size is good so i wife's shoe size is good so i can buy shoes which i did remember by mum when i was a remember by my mum when i was a little kid, you know, washing gloves, thinking that was a really nice when really nice present. when you get it's such get older you realise it's such a great gift. is it really? i know will. you know, i can know she will. you know, i can see pair of washing up see you in. a pair of washing up gloves else , gloves and nothing else else, just milliseconds. gloves and nothing else else, just milliseconds . but it's just milliseconds. but it's like. well, i was once bought a burka how to woo girls, which is something, you know, i've no interest in girls whatsoever. i've for friends. that's fair enough. i've for friends. that's fair enough . really quickly, bob in enough. really quickly, bob in spain since wife had everything i kindly bought her a roof rack for our car approximately 30 years ago. she never let forget it but we're still together after 41 years. well done, bob. she's a lucky lady, steve and alan is next. stevie hello there. well tonight we will be going through tomorrow's top, some serious ones and stupid
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ones as well, i can promise . ones as well, i can promise. we'll talk about royal mail workers to bring family members to work, to help out nepotism grant shapps does what dads have always been doing telling us to keep the heating down shakespeare being made more offensive. why one play's already got a bottom in it . already got a bottom in it. total legend steve alan in the hot seat for headline is a thank you to my wonderful my brilliant production team and most importantly to you , this importantly to you, this programme is nothing without and i can't wait to see you for my last show of the year. tomorrow at nine. see you then . looking at nine. see you then. looking ahead to tomorrow's and the uk is looking wet , windy and icy in is looking wet, windy and icy in as a band of rain and snow sweeps in from the west . let's sweeps in from the west. let's take a look at the details . take a look at the details. sunday morning will bring a cold and frosty start across scotland with temperatures as low as minus ten in some places. it will be a dry morning with some sunshine. it will be a cloudy and foggy start in northern ireland with some icy patches,
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although it will be dry at first. heavy rain and strong winds will arise from mid—morning. winds will arise from mid—morning . any mist and fault mid—morning. any mist and fault patches in northern england will gradually clear sunday morning. it will be dry and frosty at first, but rains and ice will arrive in after a cold and start in wales. that will quickly turn wet and windy. in wales. that will quickly turn wet and windy . a band of rain wet and windy. a band of rain and hills snow arrives . the rain and hills snow arrives. the rain could bring icy surfaces for a short time , but it will turn short time, but it will turn milder. heat also a very cold start in the midlands. the sharp frost , a band start in the midlands. the sharp frost, a band of heavy rain will pushin frost, a band of heavy rain will push in from the west during the morning , perhaps giving a risk morning, perhaps giving a risk of icy patches for time. staying dry across east anglia on sunday morning, it will be a very cold and frosty start with a few mist and. heavy rain will quickly spread across southern counties of england through sunday morning with strong winds. it will be mild in the southwest . will be mild in the southwest. an amber weather warning is in force for ice across parts of england tomorrow. it become
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tncky england tomorrow. it become tricky travelling conditions in the area throughout the day .
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hello back i'm bethany lc here to bring you up to date from the gb newsroom amber weather warnings have been issued the north of england tomorrow meaning. icy conditions could be a risk to life. the met office expecting rain, snow and to cause dangerous driving conditions. disruption to public and possibly air. yellow weather warnings in place for most of the uk . winter conditions the uk. winter conditions expected to further travel disruption with border staff and ambulance drivers set to strike in a few days . ambulance drivers set to strike in a few days. the ambulance drivers set to strike in a few days . the government in a few days. the government has been forced to the military to vital public services . to vital public services. officials say they're preparing . 120
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