tv Mark Dolan Tonight GB News December 18, 2022 9:00pm-11:00pm GMT
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it's my last mark dolan tonight of the year and going out in style . in my big opinion, my style. in my big opinion, my hopes for 2023. we'll have challenges . yes, but there's challenges. yes, but there's a lot to look forward to as well. my lot to look forward to as well. my mark meets guest is the most famous man in the world and arguably the most important in a world. exclusive father is live in the studio from ten and yes keep the kids up. we'll play it back to them tomorrow. they won't want to miss it. father christmas live in the studio ten. this is not drill in the
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big question . should it be big question. should it be impossible for certain professions to go on strike and in news agenda? with my panel, should families keep politics out of christmas and wealth if a right to snub vladimir zelenskyy. also do , brits take zelenskyy. also do, brits take the armed forces for granted. lots of topics to get through in my take attend jeremy clarkson has joked that he hates markle on a cellular level. his latest column , the sun newspaper, is column, the sun newspaper, is annoying all of the right people. my reaction in the next houn people. my reaction in the next hour. so much to get through. but first, the headline ends with bethany elsey . mark, thank with bethany elsey. mark, thank you. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. the health secretary says it's up to the nurses to ensure there's sufficient cover place for emergencies during strikes this week . steve barclay strikes this week. steve barclay warned patient safety would be affected if striking nhs staff
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chose to answer calls from the picket line . the rcn has already picket line. the rcn has already threatened further industrial action in new year if ministers don't respond within 48 hours of tuesday's walkout . barclay also tuesday's walkout. barclay also refused to rule out a one off payment for nhs workers to break the strike deadlock . it's the strike deadlock. it's important that the trade unions honour the commitments that they've given to, safeguard life threatening responses and emergency responses. now we haven't had that confirmed in the practical arrangements that the practical arrangements that the trade unions put in place with each trust. i'm calling on them . do so. i'm very keen. them. do so. i'm very keen. continue talking with them because all of us should be focussed on that patient safety . meanwhile, a cabinet minister says it's not fair that military personnel are having to cover for public sector workers on strike over the festive period. oliver dowden urging unions to call off the industrial action warning signify weakens pay rises would end up everyone
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poorer. more than 1000 troops are expected to cover paramedics and border force officials . a and border force officials. a teenager has been charged with facilitating attempted illegal entry into the uk after four people died while trying to cross the english channel. a major operation was under way earlier this week after a migrant boat capsized. 39 people were rescued 19 year old ibrahim abah. were rescued 19 year old ibrahim abah . no fixed address has been abah. no fixed address has been remanded custody and will appear at folks in magistrates court tomorrow . police searching tomorrow. police searching a property in birmingham say they found what is believed to be the remains of a child. west midlands police have been searching the garden of a house in handsworth following information about a possible burial. a post—mortem examination will be carried out to establish the cause of death . arg to establish the cause of death. arg world cup after beating france in a thrilling match which saw extra and a penalty shoot out .
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extra and a penalty shoot out. fans in argentina, celebrated their captain, lionel messi, who has finally won the biggest prize football. messi scored twice in a33 draw that featured a hat trick for france's kilian mbappe . the game ended in mbappe. the game ended in a penalty shootout where argentina's keeper saved one while another shot . france went while another shot. france went wide. many are already considering the match to be of the greatest finals in tournament history. you're up to date on tv, online , indy plus date on tv, online, indy plus radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to . let's get back to. mark thanks, bethany . we'll see you thanks, bethany. we'll see you at ten. welcome the last mark dolan tonight of the year. and we are out in style . dolan tonight of the year. and we are out in style. in my big opinion monologue, my for 2023.
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yes, we will face challenges, but there's a lot to look forward to as well . in the big forward to as well. in the big question, should it be impossible for certain to go on strike? i'll be joined by former conservative minister widdecombe and shadow secretary of state for international trade and labour for brent north. barry gardiner it might take a ten. jeremy clarkson has joked that he hates meghan markle , a he hates meghan markle, a cellular level. he said he prefers rows west to meghan markle , his latest column for markle, his latest column for the sun newspaper is annoying all of the right people . my mock all of the right people. my mock meets guest is the most man in the world and the most important in a world exclusive father christmas joins us live . the christmas joins us live. the studio from ten. keep the kids up. oh, play back to them tomorrow. they won't want to miss it and in the news agenda with my panel should families go politics on christmas day as the
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military shiver in unheated homes this winter , do brits take homes this winter, do brits take the armed forces granted? and how about this for controversy following ? an almighty row at following? an almighty row at amnesty . is following? an almighty row at amnesty. is it following? an almighty row at amnesty . is it wrong to eat amnesty. is it wrong to eat teacakes after 11 am. reacting to all of those stories is my all star panel , bestselling all star panel, bestselling author and columnist wolff, legendary journalist and broadcaster nina mish got that's not nina . nina. there she is , not nina. nina. there she is, the blonde goddess . and last but the blonde goddess. and last but not least , brawn and brains , not least, brawn and brains, businessman and political commentator ali maraj . now commentator ali maraj. now i want to hear from you throughout the show mark@gbnews.uk and this programme has a golden rule . programme has a golden rule. after a year and a half here at gb news, do you think you know what that golden rule is? we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just won't have it. so for the next hours, big debates, big guests and always big opinions
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for the last time this year. let's start with this . now let's start with this. now nothing was ever achieve without optimism , without positive optimism, without positive energy , and without imbibing energy, and without imbibing a glass half full , which is why glass half full, which is why i'm looking forward to 20, 23 as we reach the tail end of almost three years to forget war, pandemic and, economic strife, the signs are hardly auspicious that half full glass is looking a bit empty . inflation that half full glass is looking a bit empty. inflation is destroying the value wages and spiking the cost of goods and energy of interest rates are up. increasing the cost of mortgages and credit cards and large parts of the workforce have stopped working altogether as . part of working altogether as. part of strike action to get a better deal strike action to get a better deal. but our problems though
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serious. all temporary take inflation example which most economists , including the bank economists, including the bank of england, consider may have peaked. the one positive thing about a recession. yes really am about a recession. yes really am a positive thinker is that it reduces the demand for goods which reduces inflation . so which reduces inflation. so a downturn whilst an issue for our national income is a welcome remedy to the greatest enemy of all inflation. with likely falling next year barring a disaster, we will see the reversal of what we suffered in 2022 with prices coming down and the value wages going up . so in the value wages going up. so in 2022 we are leaving a circle and in 2023 entering a virtuous one only. of course if our new prime minister, rishi sunak stands his ground and does not yield the trade unions who have the country in recent weeks . now the
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country in recent weeks. now the us is clearly to get something but two handouts unaffordable pay but two handouts unaffordable pay rises across the board would further inflate the debt which is already on as the international bond markets have demonstrated and pay rises would bake inflation. the source of all of our problems into the system potentially for decade . system potentially for decade. there's more good news unemployment historically low which is miraculous there are now 1.2 million jobs vacancies available and with a healthier outlook inflation next year opportune to teach for the workforce may grow rather than shnnk. workforce may grow rather than shrink . and as the brilliant shrink. and as the brilliant economist julian jessop points out this week, there's growing evidence the recession itself will be shorter and shallower than once feared. thanks to the fundamental strengths of the british economy , the euro area, british economy, the euro area, by the way , doing markedly worse by the way, doing markedly worse . that's a shame . plus, the
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. that's a shame. plus, the poundis . that's a shame. plus, the pound is robustly strong against the dollar, having bounced back and the cost of government borrowing. that's all important is heading south to. a next year provides brexit opportunities as well , provides brexit opportunities as well, including cutting bureaucracy for business and further trade deals in the offing, including with india and its population . a billion people its population. a billion people and the mood music between london and brussels is getting better too, when it comes to that wretched ireland protocol, which places a border down the irish sea. there now expectations of a deal the spnng expectations of a deal the spring in advance of the 25 year anniversary of the belfast good friday agreements. if that issue which needlessly divides our country is resolved, i believe it will detoxify our relations ship with the eu and will open the door to more collaboration in the years ahead and a happier, smoother trading
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relationship . more good news for relationship. more good news for next year. our new prime minister, who looks set to last more than the 44 days of liz truss , outlined a five point truss, outlined a five point plan to tackle illegal immigration. one which will have an instant impact on numbers. a deal with the albanian government to return nationals to this safe country . that to this safe country. that illegal migration issue will not be solved overnight . but it's be solved overnight. but it's very clear that this current administration sees it as an absolute priority and, an opportunity to those x labour red wall voters don't think much of rishi sunak at the moment. but if he sets in motion policies to properly police our borders, i believe it will be his get brexit done moment and bofis his get brexit done moment and boris votes from 2019 could go the new incumbent at number. illegal will be rishi sunak's brexit and we'll find out next
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year whether this young has the vision , the political will and vision, the political will and the backbone to tackle it . but i the backbone to tackle it. but i suspect he might . there's more suspect he might. there's more good news. it keeps on. the pandemic is over with many if not more people struggling with the flu. it's starting to feel like the good old days again. society is getting back to normal with people dragging themselves into the office, coughing in, wheezing. and with pubs , restaurants, jam packed pubs, restaurants, jam packed full of people spreading germs . full of people spreading germs. isn't it wonderful? it's pretty clear the british people have called time on covid uptake of the booster has dwindled with mainly the vulnerable groups going for the jab, which is in my how it should have been in first place. only a few are still going around wearing masks and. there's a growing consensus that the lockdowns were an
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absolute disaster and a colossal historic mistake with the pandemic over, business confidence will come back. many people's lockdown savings will be spent , and people's lockdown savings will be spent, and perhaps next year will be the first time that our beloved hospitality industry can begin to recover . economic begin to recover. economic activity and people living their lives to the full . working hard. lives to the full. working hard. and playing is the name of the game for 2023. go to the office. go to the pub and go shopping. your country needs you . even your country needs you. even energy prices is turning into a good news story . they're coming good news story. they're coming down and we'll to fall next year as countries seek alternate sources of oil and gas to those from russia . and the smart money from russia. and the smart money is on a conclusion to the illegal invasion of ukraine. russia is losing that war. yes, it could go . to a very dark
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it could go. to a very dark place. and we pray doesn't. but at some point, vladimir putin will be handed a diamond encrusted golden ladder to climb down, which i believe will. our recovery won't happen overnight , but it begins next year. circumstances should start to shift in our favour, but it's important that our mentality does as well . it's time for does as well. it's time for britain to think big, think positive and move forward. country is bloodied , but not country is bloodied, but not broken. torn but not scarred . broken. torn but not scarred. we're still standing . yeah, we're still standing. yeah, yeah, yeah . forget about doom yeah, yeah. forget about doom and gloom . i'm not having that and gloom. i'm not having that in time. if we get this right, i'm predicting boom and boom . i'm predicting boom and boom. now it's my last of the year. it is the greatest privilege to broadcast on the national and radio airwaves . and this show is radio airwaves. and this show is nothing without you . i love your nothing without you. i love your emails . i nothing without you. i love your emails. i love nothing without you. i love your emails . i love your opinions and
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emails. i love your opinions and i love your company. emails. i love your opinions and i love your company . let's do it i love your company. let's do it all again in january. i wish , all again in january. i wish, you, your friends and family, a very happy . yeah, that's right. very happy. yeah, that's right. i called it christmas. how brave am i? and i wish all of you a healthy and prosperous new year. we can do this. see you in 2023. now, where's that? mistletoe . now, where's that? mistletoe. not quite the snow guy was anticipating . but i'll be over anticipating. but i'll be over to see nina in a minute. oh, god. your reaction all as optimistic as i am. i think it's to be really hard next year, but i think that the future's if we adopt a positive mentality. mark gb news uk. let me know your thoughts. i'm delighted. say. with me for the whole evening. hand—picked absolute favourites is why they have the last year
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of the best author and columnist emma wolfe , legendary journalist emma wolfe, legendary journalist and broadcaster nina mitch goff, and broadcaster nina mitch goff, and businessman and political commentator al maraj . emma, let commentator al maraj. emma, let me start with you . what are your me start with you. what are your hopes and dreams 2023? well, hopes and dreams for 2023? well, firstly, i'm massively insulted that you didn't want to come over and snog me, but that's fine. i'll hand the mistletoe over to nina . fine. i'll hand the mistletoe over to nina. i fine. i'll hand the mistletoe over to nina . i don't know. over to nina. i don't know. planet you're living on, mark. i don't what you have on your don't know what you have on your cornflakes every morning this weird bouncy optimism that you have is just completely bizarre. you've been for months. inflation is falling energy pnces inflation is falling energy prices are falling. the in ukraine is coming. it's all happened all this stuff. have you ever been outside london? have you ever been up north? high streets closed. people high streets are closed. people are shops are empty . are depressed. shops are empty. is darkness. everything is shuttered and closing down a genuine . i feel like the country genuine. i feel like the country is on its knees. i feel like we're at the lowest . everybody i we're at the lowest. everybody i know is either clinically depressed or , is dying of the depressed or, is dying of the flu . i really think i mean, flu. i really think i mean, i agree you that we need to we
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need to hope for the best in 2023. but i don't feel the same optimism as you do. well, i completely agree with you that we're in a bad place now. and, of course, we've we've we've both shared the that both shared the view that lockdowns terrible lockdowns been a terrible mistake. we are. but mistake. and we are we are. but the bottom line is even the the bottom line is that even the bank of england, who are the most pessimistic people on earth, i'll predicting that inflation fall possibly inflation will fall possibly quite sharply energy prices . quite sharply energy prices. predictions for the bank of england those gilt yields are looking great as well. that's the cost of government. so in the cost of government. so in the end, you know, the data is moving in right direction moving in the right direction and think we've got to go at and i think we've got to go at it year. i'm surprised at it next year. i'm surprised at you, you're the most you, emma. you're the most proactive am proactive i know. i am absolutely. we no choice absolutely. we have no choice except to keep but except to keep going. but i think this country is broken , is think this country is broken, is working, and as predictions for the bank of england. well, you know, you can put them politely , nina , do you share my optimism , nina, do you share my optimism for the future . well, i wish for the future. well, i wish i could . i mean, i'm not by a very could. i mean, i'm not by a very optimistic person , but but i'm optimistic person, but but i'm with emma on. we are absolutely
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on our knees that's come after 12 years of a tory government and woefully mismanaged particularly in the last three years and everything it has just stopped. you can't rely on anything anybody we've got to you know, strikes up and i support strikers but you know they are only doing what they have to do to make people here what they need to carry on you know because everyone has the right to strike to withdraw their labour and. people only do that when are at their wits end , when they has no other recourse for and to have the country come to this sort of state is dreadful and i just don't see how we're going to get out the misery that the people have got. you know, we just we need a new government. we need a new government. ali mirage , new government. ali mirage, you're big on economics . me you're big on economics. me a bone here. the bottom line is that numbers will move in the
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right direction next year, whether it's inflation or unemployment, the cost of borrowing , even the interest borrowing, even the interest rates could down quite soon. well i don't expect interest rates come down that soon. mark, i'm sorry to burst your bubble of optimism because inflation is going to remain persistently high for some time. going to remain persistently high for sometime. i mean, going to remain persistently high for some time . i mean, the high for some time. i mean, the bank of england may be projecting that it may come down, but the most severe it's going to come down is if there is a peace agreement in ukraine and the war ends. that's the that's the quickest way. this is to come to a conclusion at. the moment is looking highly moment that is looking highly unlikely . both sides are bedding unlikely. both sides are bedding in. any sign of any in. there's no any sign of any sort peace sort, armistice or peace negotiation taking place at all. i mean, that may change if both sides exhaust themselves, but they're bedding in for a long, hard winter at the moment. so until that's resolved then, yes. i understand that european countries are diversifying their energy sources a way we're trying to do the same as well, but that takes a long time we're trying to bring natural trying to bring in natural gas from countries well , a from other countries as well, a lot less dependent on russian
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gas than some of our european partners, all particularly germany , was reliant on up to germany, was reliant on up to 40% of its energy needs from russia and has actually been trying manage the demand side , trying manage the demand side, its energy, something that we haven't been doing because liz truss assured there'd be no blackouts. well, thankfully there been but we there haven't been yet. but we should try and start should also try and start looking at our own energy security over long term. so security over the long term. so i'm don't share your i'm afraid don't share your sense of optimism completely. i do things improve, but do hope that things improve, but i in a really i think we're in for a really really tough time and i think the this war was framed was the way this war was framed was absolutely, patently , absolutely, patently, ludicrously done by the government that wasn't honest with people, that it would cost us economically to do it. i'm not saying it's the wrong thing to but they should an open to do, but they should an open and transparent it was going and transparent and it was going to economic hardship to cause economic hardship and pain reality is, mark, pain and the reality is, mark, you've three now you've got three issues now that are us problems. you've are causing us problems. you've got overhang from got brexit, the overhang from brexit, waiting brexit, still waiting for dividend yet. i'm dividend hasn't arrived yet. i'm still see where it's still waiting to see where it's going come from. you've had going to come from. you've had covid. you write to mention the
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overhang of that. i was not lockdowns, you're dealing lockdowns, but you're dealing with list. with 7 million waiting list. you're dealing excess you're dealing with excess deaths, other deaths, all sorts of other issues . and also got the issues. and you've also got the ongoing in, which is the ongoing war in, which is the third factor. so of these things are creating the problems we've got now. well, i do think that i've offered tangible examples got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy ered tangible examples got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy erercanrgible examples got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy erercan forward (amples got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy erercan forward to 1ples got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy erercan forward to the s got now. well, i do think that i'vwhy erercan forward to the new of why we can forward to the new yeah of why we can forward to the new year. it be an easy year, year. it won't be an easy year, but it will far better. but it will be far better. infinite it'll be better than 2022. panel don't 2022. my panel don't agree. that's magic this show that's the magic of this show it's a broadchurch let's be honest let me know your honest so let me know your thoughts mark@gbnews.uk father thoughts mark@gb news.uk father christmas thoughts mark@gbnews.uk father christmas live in the studio in a mark meet special and i'll be asking tough questions have asking him tough questions have the gone on strike he's the elves gone on strike he's rudolph going to be replaced with a tesla . we'll put that to with a tesla. we'll put that to father christmas by. the way the kids can watch. they're safe in my keep my hands, folks. so keep the kids up. it'll be worth it all. so we've got my take at ten and i'll be dealing with jeremy clarkson. should , it be clarkson. but next should, it be impossible for certain professions on strike. see professions. go on strike. see you .
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in three. well, a big reaction to my big opinion monologue 23 is going to be a hard year, but much better 2022 and plenty to look forward. joanne says . let's have a look. joanne says. let's have a look. hi, mark. how refreshing to hear your views. i was around in 1978 and 1979 and remember the winter of we got through it then and we will get through this because we british keep up the good work and ignore the doomsayers. jacqui. hi mark. emma, your panellist is not, but i'm with you. let's be positive . happy you. let's be positive. happy christmas. and thanks for the shows this year. well, thank you jacqueline. says mark, you jacqueline. peter says mark, you really love me as you claim in your big opinion monologue , your big opinion monologue, bnng your big opinion monologue, bring back bowls of stale . you bring back bowls of stale. you are now a person of influence and so have the power. i you what if there was a good channel to screen and carry balls of steel? it would surely be gb news. we got that in abundance.
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lots more emails to come. but first this . it's for the big first this. it's for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the tonight with firefighters and ambulance drivers planning industrial action and with nursing unions threatening to withdraw even more services in an escalation of their strike action . should of their strike action. should it be impossible for certain to down tools to debate this? i'm to welcome former government minister and bestselling author ann widdecombe , ann's first time ann widdecombe, ann's first time on mark dolan tonight a delight to welcome former shadow secretary of state for energy and international trade . labour and international trade. labour mp barry gardiner. hello, barry. hello mark, how are you? i'm really well . great to have you really well. great to have you on the show. what do you think about this? should be rules around certain groups, certain professional categories that don't allow those individuals to go on strike , whether it's
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go on strike, whether it's nurses or firefighters or, of course, police officers. but we have the situation where the police officers are not allowed to go on strike . but police officers are not allowed to go on strike. but i think police officers are not allowed to go on strike . but i think the to go on strike. but i think the key thing here is to realise that nobody goes on, you know, because have just it's better to spend their on a picket line in the freezing without any pay drinking a cup of tea. they go on strike because they don't enough money to see their way through this winter because they don't have enough money to pay to feed their children or to pay their rent and when they've seen their rent and when they've seen their pay and not only just not getting bigger, but actually losing money over the past decade , it's understandable that decade, it's understandable that faced with the sort of food that we see of , 16.4, that double we see of, 16.4, that double digit inflation, that there is that people who are in that
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situation . look, i have no other situation. look, i have no other opfion situation. look, i have no other option . so i would call them the option. so i would call them the government is, not about, you know, mobilising the army. it's calling on the government to do the sensible but decent to recognise that all these people, whether they are bus drivers, whether they are bus drivers, whether they're trained railway workers , whether they are the workers, whether they are the postal workers, all the who we clap to during covid two, we said they were the ones protecting us coming out on the front line . these are the ones front line. these are the ones that the government must now say, look at you protected us , say, look at you protected us, we will now protect you. we've a mess of the economy. we blown 60 million in the past three months through our incompetence. you should not have to pay for that . and i think if the government came out said, look, we will negotiate in good faith, we will allow the train companies to negotiate in good faith and not be bound by the as they are at
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the moment . then be bound by the as they are at the moment. then i think we could see a resolution these strikes . but unfortunately the strikes. but unfortunately the government's trying to turn them into a political football. and i think a great disservice to the pubuc think a great disservice to the public and it's actually callous for all those workers who gave so much to all of us during the pandemic . very briefly, if you pandemic. very briefly, if you can because to keep ann widdecombe waiting a dangerous game to play i just ask you you mentioned that police police officers kind of go on strike the military as well. but is it not morally wrong for nurses, doctors , drivers or firefighters doctors, drivers or firefighters go on strike as well, given the fact that inevitably lives could be lost. well, you know very well that the ambulance drivers and the nurses have done everything in their power to ensure that emergency services are kept running and that critical care will be . what the critical care will be. what the nurses have tried to do is to make sure that talking about
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those habitual, chronic ses, those habitual, chronic ses, those visits about outpatient that happen week after week , that happen week after week, those will be affected , but not those will be affected, but not in such a way that they're wanting to put lives in danger. they've done in their power to stop that , and they're appealing stop that, and they're appealing to the government. look ministers come forward let's let's resolve these . they can be let's resolve these. they can be resolved, but it needs goodwill on. both sides and, that sounds reasonable, doesn't it doesn't sound at all reasonable. i mean the very simple fact of life is that if you have pay rises , that if you have pay rises, either match or exceed inflation , you end up with what we have through the seventies and barry can remember this just as well as i do. we had the infamous wage spiral whereby go up you have to increase prices to pay for it. therefore people want their wages to go up again and thatis their wages to go up again and that is what this government has got to avoid. and i claim by the
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nurses from 19% is cloud cuckoo land, quite honestly, and they only way we're going to get on top of inflation is if the wage rises kept very, very reasonable . and of course, that does mean that does mean that we're all poorer because it means that what you've got will buy less and less units. that is inflation and that is the evil which we've got to counter . now, which we've got to counter. now, having said all of that , i having said all of that, i remember 78, 79, the winter discontent and then remember how just a few years later we were booming literally booming . and booming literally booming. and that was because mrs. thatcher got on top . the problem now got on top. the problem now i the government is not being mean . i think the government is trying to make sure that the is stabilised . that is going to stabilised. that is going to mean some very very tough decisions. and finally it is not only irresponsible , it's a moral
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only irresponsible, it's a moral strike when you're actually looking after people's lives and, welfare. now already , and, welfare. now already, already people are waiting too long for ambulances. already people are waiting too long for ambulances . already the long for ambulances. already the waiting lists are growing for operations . already we've got operations. already we've got the pile up from covid, but we haven't managed to get rid of naturally enough. we haven't got on so the idea that you just add to that with further complications is so in answer to your question i think that justice would with the army so the emergency services which is the emergency services which is the fire and the nhs the emergency services should be allowed to strike and i feel that very strongly and i can't imagine why anybody would want a strike. bearing in mind what the result could be, that is what , i result could be, that is what, i grapple with barry before we go. you a debutant on the programme. so i'm going to give you the last word. i've only got a few seconds. i'll get in trouble
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with producer cal. but to give people pay rises when prices are going up is an arms race within place. and that's ann's point . place. and that's ann's point. how would you counter that ? it how would you counter that? it look it's a that's been well made many times i would simply say this and the people who are causing problems for our are not the nurses they're the bus drivers testing trace cost us 37 billion of wasted money useless 8.7 billion of wasted money . 8.7 billion of wasted money. brexit alone has cost 40 billion in tax receipts . the chancellor, in tax receipts. the chancellor, when he was chancellor overpaid 11 billion in interest over uk national debt . so what is national debt. so what is causing inflation is the income two way in which this government has run the economy. waste money on things it should not have been doing usually to profit its friends in the process. look at baroness moan and all this has
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been revealed okay so let's get it right. the people who are holding this country to ransom are the people have been making billions off the back of working people through covid barry gardiner , lovely to have you on gardiner, lovely to have you on the show and shaking her head. do come see us again soon. barry. i enjoyed first appearance on the programme. fascinating set of points you've had to make. anderson i agree and can i thank you for your weekly it's weekly contributions. it's always the of the show when you are and look to many are on and look forward to many more encounters in new year more encounters in the new year and to we come and barry gardiner that we asked you on twitter whether should be twitter whether it should be impossible professions impossible certain professions to . 69% said yes, to go on strike. 69% said yes, 31% said no. mark meats christmas that's after ten. keep the kids up because it's going to be great chat the papers 1030 and lots more to come see you shortly .
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well, a strong response to . our well, a strong response to. our big questions should certain professions be banned from going on strike ? mike says the public on strike? mike says the public at large not hold any credence to the calls . strikes from to the calls. strikes from leaders like the grinch. mick lynch if they own their six figure salaries also have their stopped with every strike call. and of course , it would end. and of course, it would end. thank you for. that mike. antonio barry gardiner is my mp. i think he's talking rubbish as usual. him where the money's coming from to pay for the daydream pay rises and carro in response to my big opinion monologue says mark what planets are you on? we with emma your panellist. we have no trust in this nor a labour one. they're all puppets bought and paid for by the world economic forum. new world mob, 15 minute citizen, no cars to go into town, etc, etc. kara, thank you for your thoughts. keep them coming. market gb news. dot uk very excited about next guest. he
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calls himself christmas and he celebrates christmas. wait for it every day of the year. that's right. i'm delighted to say that mr. christmas joins now. good evening, sir. good egg denmark and a very christmas to you. oh, yes , of course. that would have yes, of course. that would have a novelty value. but you've been saying merry christmas all year, haven't you ? i have every single haven't you? i have every single day , every week of the year , day, every week of the year, because it is christmas, every day in my everything you do christmas day, i do it every day in my arms, every single day . in my arms, every single day. it's really good fun as well. right. so could be february. it could be august. it could be october. but wake up in the morning and you've got what have you got? you've got a christmas tree. describe the house. describe the setting . my house describe the setting. my house is full decorations, lights . is full decorations, lights. i've got two really nice christmas trees. they stay on all year round and, you know, looking at the tree and it makes feel good and i sort of having
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breakfast, which consists the mince pies, the glasses , sherry mince pies, the glasses, sherry and then i just plod on with my work to various work every day. and then i prepare my christmas dinner , which is obviously full dinner, which is obviously full christmas dinner completely . and christmas dinner completely. and i just enjoy it, sit down and let 5 to 3 and sit down after dinner, watch the queen's speech and still watch the queen's speech. although she's passed over and i think this year i'll probably watch the king's speech on the queen's speech . so, you on the queen's speech. so, you know, it's all good for like royals or presents for myself every day. and you like the right it to myself . and people right it to myself. and people laugh at me . i don't care, laugh at me. i don't care, ma'am. i don't care is good for you.so ma'am. i don't care is good for you. so you presents for yourself every day . it's an yourself every day. it's an expensive business. turkey is not cheap . presents are not not cheap. presents are not cheap. and of course , lighting cheap. and of course, lighting your home whilst energy bills are big is not cheap. the well
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it can it be dear but in summer i don't put the lights on so that's because you can't see them. but you know, this time , them. but you know, this time, yeah. i've always got the lights on and christmas time i'll keep the lights until that march—april time and then you click in and use the so much. but what i try and save as much money as i can because one or two bills are going up. but i've been away. but you know i've got to do it anyway . those media. to do it anyway. those media. oh, well got to do it. absolutely. it's not going to be for everyone. of course. mr. christmas, when did this start ? christmas, when did this start? it started in 98, 1993. i love christmas i thought, you know , christmas i thought, you know, decorations up. it was a sunny . decorations up. it was a sunny. i do remember that . and the i do remember that. and the decorations . got a vhs video at decorations. got a vhs video at the loft. you probably don't remember what vhs video is , but remember what vhs video is, but with the queen's speech on it
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and put it on and you know, it's it is christmas day in june. it was fantastic . i thought, i'm was fantastic. i thought, i'm going to do this tomorrow. then the next day, then the next day, 30 years on, i'm still doing still having a great time . and, still having a great time. and, you know, people do not like i said, but i just do it. i think you come to my house keeping yourself and you'll get much christmas dinner. oh, yeah, i might round to yours for a good stuffing . oh you're welcome. stuffing. oh you're welcome. absolutely welcome . anyone's absolutely welcome. anyone's welcome for a little bit of stuffing and turkey, you know over the years i've eaten 13 and a half thousand turkeys to a quarter million brussel sprouts, soft drink, 15 bottles of champagne goes on and on. i'm just having a great time. i think it's wonderful and mr. christmas, do you have a job as well? do you have a day job that pays for all of this? i'm an electrician. i work on domestic appliances and, you know, like
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get set up for that. so celebrating christmas every day is a much betterjob, but does it spoil christmas for you, though ? no, not all the real though? no, not all the real christmas day on the 25th of december. you know , people come december. you know, people come around and i leave the doors open that, come on, come in. you're welcome . you know, we you're welcome. you know, we have mince pies christmas cake with cream and present under the tray covered, say, or a glass of sherry, whatever you know, i just just i'm real laid back and i do get a lot of takers . i do i do get a lot of takers. i do got to say that you had me at sherry for breakfast. i'm in. i'm with you on this one. all you mr. christmas personal question . are you married or are question. are you married or are you in a long term? no, i'm not married. nobody seems to want me. but i mean, that's that's fine. but you know, i've got a lady friend. of course am. but she's not really into christmas . so, you know, i've just got to
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do it myself. i see okay. well, yeah, you you having to do it yourself might be too much information, but i take your mr. christmas. listen, you're very talented musical artist as well and i believe that. well you've got a christmas song is that right ? yeah, i release right? yeah, i release a christmas song every christmas and make a video and. it all seems to get played on and on radio. and it's good. it's great. it's fantastic. well, listen , mr. christmas, i think listen, mr. christmas, i think a hero you're doing that makes you feel good. it's not hurting anyone else . it's put a big old anyone else. it's put a big old smile on my . so may i be the smile on my. so may i be the first or maybe the last to wish you a very merry christmas, mr. christmas . oh, you've got to christmas. oh, you've got to watch at 10:00, because do you know who my mock meets guest is? i think it's father christmas. it is father christmas . so it is father christmas. so you'll be watching that and you need to video record that on the vhs. what should i ask father christmas ? and just ask him to
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christmas? and just ask him to bnng christmas? and just ask him to bring me something nice in his son? yeah, i've got no doubt he will. mr. christmas a joy to have you on the show . let's play have you on the show. let's play out with you a wonderful christmas song. here it is. let's make this. number one. when i hear santa sleigh on a trip to holiday stornoway . well trip to holiday stornoway. well we're staying in the christmas mood next. should christmas be a politics free zone especially with a family and friends will that next 10:00 i'll be dealing with outrage a scandal that relates to jeremy clarkson as my it's head you won't want to miss that at ten i'll be dealing with
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well back to the show it's the last mark dolan tonight of the wonderful to have your company and thank you for your company all year long and we'll do it all year long and we'll do it all again next year. the theme of my big opinion monologue is very much about next year. it will be hard, but it will be much better and easier than the year i'm determined year we've had. i'm determined to optimistic. do share to be optimistic. do you share optimism? to twitter at optimism? pop over to twitter at gb and you'll see a version gb news and you'll see a version of that monologue that's up there now. let me know your there now. and let me know your thoughts christmas, man thoughts. mr. christmas, a man that celebrates christmas every day on the show. just day was on the show. just a moment. says if he's happy moment. rick says if he's happy and content having christmas every day, all that every day, that's all that matters. he like very kind matters. he like a very kind man. all who mock him are
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judgemental, those with miserable lives, good on him, says rick , absolutely writes says rick, absolutely writes fantastic . although let's get to fantastic. although let's get to more of your emails shortly . but more of your emails shortly. but first, what's going on in the world and oh yes , forgive me, world and oh yes, forgive me, i've just lost the power of speech. it's the end of the yeah speech. it's the end of the year. that's it. the brains come. yes, indeed. with all that's going on in the world and the political divides stronger than people fight about everything . should families go? everything. should families go? politics free on christmas day ? politics free on christmas day? let's ask my wonderful panel of , emma wolf, nina minskoff , ali , emma wolf, nina minskoff, ali mirage, ali, what do you think about that? should we keep politics out of christmas? yes, i think we should i think we have far too much politics all year round. day without year round. one day without politics fine by me. but politics is just fine by me. but when to having family when it comes to having family members have very strong opinions around the table, i do to speak to my nieces and nephews a little politics nephews a little bit politics and happening in and about what's happening in parliament do take an parliament and they do take an interest that to interest in that i like to educate them but i think look
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stick board games charades other things enjoy the turkey, enjoy the fun festivity . but i the fun and the festivity. but i think we can talk politics just for a day. isn't there some aristocratic tradition ? no aristocratic tradition? no politics at the dinner table isn't isn't that this was not nice politics? no religion , no nice politics? no religion, no money. i thought it was nice . i money. i thought it was nice. i know, as i said, plenty of sex. speak for yourself, nina. by way. nina, here's the mistletoe . you can keep it over there. thank you very go. i'm ready. popova. popova. when you are entirely flattered. can i just say i'll be dangling my mistletoe for the next hour and a half and let's see where it gets. oh nina, the big problem . gets. oh nina, the big problem. politics at christmas is it's mixed with booze . so people are mixed with booze. so people are drinking sometimes from quite early in the day. quite right, too. absolutely. that's that's part of the fun it. yeah. but therefore politics and drinking and families. it doesn't work because it doesn't work at all. and the thing is that kind of the the sort of sibling the all the sort of sibling rivalry been suppressed rivalry that's been suppressed or terrible old family arguments that nobody's faced up , they all
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that nobody's faced up, they all out and this is this is when it all goes terribly, terribly wrong and it can take politics just to kick that off. and that's the worse. but this is why i have avoid it. christmas with family, because i don't have family here i've got family in new zealand and that's it. and my other half grant has family in australia and. for the last 30 odd years since we've been together, we just we just leave , we just get on a plane leave, we just get on a plane and go somewhere else and it's just literally the two that i've not had family christmas forever . it'sjust not had family christmas forever . it's just the two of us, which is it's made me seem terribly selfish. but we've had fabulous christmases in, i don't know, istanbul, paris , sydney, istanbul, paris, sydney, barcelona , barcelona, lanzarote barcelona, barcelona, lanzarote wherever we can find place to go. all la we've spent ice, which is really nice so that doesn't arise i quite fancy playing gooseberry with you too this christmas where you off to this christmas where you off to this year? my lips sealed. well,
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i tell you what i might follow you home and jump in that cab with you to heathrow. because it does sound quite good. and it raises an interesting question, emma, about why more people don't prioritise christmas for themselves to, have a christmas they'd actually like is what nina does. but not many people do that. yeah, the best christmas i had was on a beach in cape town was just amazing. but, you know the outrage of my family for the fact that i wasn't there . i don't think it wasn't there. i don't think it specifically with my family it's this thing you avert the minute i'm in the childhood home the family home. yeah we just to being about ten years old and i can feel myself i've got a lot of siblings we trigger each other, we all i don't know, i just feel i'm so i've always felt incredibly grateful that i live in london and that most of my family are in london don't have to do that thing where people have pack grown ups have to a and go home to to pack up a and go home to their mum and dad for like ten days over christmas because you
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can't escape . the one thing i can't escape. the one thing i can't escape. the one thing i can do, the i can do is sort of an extended lunch, maybe a brisk walk around regent's park and i can leave and go home, whereas people have to when they escape, how they can't get now because of the rail strikes . because of the rail strikes. because they can't escape. i've got a who's driving up with it. you know, he's a grown up he's in his forties. he's driving up with family to wherever, somewhere up north. and then he's basically stuck there about, know, six or about, i don't know, six or seven days he'll out of his seven days he'll be out of his childhood bedroom window. all of that. can't all you can do that. you can't all you can do is walk to the village pub. i honestly, i don't know how people and it's love my people do it and it's love my family. them all family. i'm very close them all individually something individually with something about gathering together it's not it's just not even the booze, it's just the everybody each the way that everybody each other and even though it's happy overall, look and it's overall, you look back and it's happy. don't know. there's happy. i don't know. there's something about you suddenly become a child again and yeah, yeah. become a child again and yeah, yeah . i think i've always said yeah. i think i've always said it . young couple getting married it. young couple getting married for the first time and you hear
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a discussion about all. should we go to his parents or her? his parents? and i always say, start now, make own christmas. just somewhere, just go and maybe break political precedent. set a precedent set a precedent because once you've got that habit of we'll go to your family on christmas day and mine on boxing and then the other or the other way round, you're stuck. you're stuck for decades. diplomatic protocols, you it's really like trying to finesse thatis really like trying to finesse that is very difficult. yeah. but if you early so any young couples who are thinking about that start now your own christmas just put foot down but it isn't christmas the whole point about christmas getting together with families is not what should what it's about. but you should be as well as think remembering that was there was some that there was there was some uncle his birth. uncle jesus christ of his birth. we're to celebrate here, we're trying to celebrate here, right? talk right? catholics together talk like cancelled. so like will get you cancelled. so that point please that was the point. please don't use word. mean, i went use the j word. i mean, i went to the church during the school year said christmas is a year and i said christmas is a year and i said christmas is a year and i said christmas is a year and exactly the major year and break exactly the major me main thing was we were me the main thing was we were trying to rememberjesus me the main thing was we were trying to remember jesus christ coming world also
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coming into the world and also getting with family . getting together with family. however could however much families could be annoying another on annoying one another y on december y i find it i personally love christmas because . i do find i mean, i do because. i do find i mean, i do a lot of travelling and running around all over the place. oh yes. so one time in the year when you actually in one place, you know, i enjoy making food, i enjoy cooking. it's fun i think it's a time to get it's a great time to get together some sometimes will come over depends on the year sometimes quieter, sometimes come over depends on the year someti|i es quieter, sometimes come over depends on the year someti|i justuieter, sometimes come over depends on the year someti|i just really sometimes come over depends on the year someti|i just really enjoytimes come over depends on the year someti|i just really enjoy it. es busier. i just really enjoy it. personally, i think that i think that's great and i understand that. is we take that. but the trouble is we take it too, far this country. it far too, far in this country. it's not just day and say boxing day. it goes on forever. so like if you go to france or something , you have you have a lovely dinner on christmas eve, you have date, know, where you have a date, you know, where you can to restaurant, you can go to a nice restaurant, you go the ballet or whatever. so go to the ballet or whatever. so lately, breaking news for back to me please, they for my to me please, they go for my family actually if you're watching which i'm afraid it won't with you this christmas won't be with you this christmas i'm going bahamas , me to i'm going to the bahamas, me to moscow . and i'm taking i'm
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well done. direct matthew. we hit the junction on it's 10:00 hit the junction on it's10:00 and this is mark dolan's night it's the last mark dolan tonight of the year and we're going out with a bang in my take it ten in just a moment. and jeremy clarkson has joked that he hates markle on a cell level. his latest column for the sun newspaper is annoying all of the right people. my meets guest is the most man in the world and arguably the most important in a
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world exclusive father is live in the studio from just after 10:10. keep the kids up all play it back to them they won't want to miss it in news agenda with my panel as they military shiver in unheated homes this winter, do brits take to the armed forces for granted and following almighty roar at minus. is it wrong to eat cakes after an oven it's an explosive story . what do it's an explosive story. what do you think about those rules about when you eat, when you don't eat? we'll discuss shortly . plus, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030. lots to get through for the christmas in the studio . this is not a drill. studio. this is not a drill. first, the headlines with bethany, elsie . mark thank you. bethany, elsie. mark thank you. i am bethany. elsie in the gb news room. the health secretary. it's up to the nurses to . union it's up to the nurses to. union ensure there's sufficient cover in place for emergencies during strikes this week, steve barclay
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warned patient safety would be affected . striking nhs staff affected. striking nhs staff chose to only answer calls from the picket line. the rcn has already threatened further industrial action in the new yearif industrial action in the new year if ministers don't respond within 48 hours of tuesday's walkout . barclay also refused to walkout. barclay also refused to out a one off payment for nhs workers to break the strike deadlock . it's important that deadlock. it's important that the trade unions honour the commitments that they've given to safeguard personal, life threatening responses and emergency responses . now, we emergency responses. now, we haven't actually had that confirmed in the practical that the trade unions put place with each trust . i'm calling on them each trust. i'm calling on them to do so . i'm each trust. i'm calling on them to do so. i'm very keen to continue talking with them because all of us should be focussed on that. patients safety and cabinet minister says it's not fair that military are having to cover for public sector workers on strike over the period. oliver dowden urging unions to call off the
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industrial action warning significant pay rises would up making everyone poorer. more than 1000 troops are expected to paramedics and border force . paramedics and border force. a teenager has been charged with facilitating attempted illegal into the uk after people died while trying to the english channel a rescue operation was underway earlier this week after a migrant boat capsized. 39 people were rescued 19 year old ibrahim abah of no fixed address has been remanded in custody and will appear ahead of magistrates tomorrow . police searching tomorrow. police searching a property in birmingham say found what is believed to be the remains of a child. west midlands police have been searching the garden of a house in handsworth following information about a possible burial . a post—mortem burial. a post—mortem examination will be carried out to establish the cause of death . argentina have won the qatar world cup after beating france
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in a thrilling match saw extra time and a penalty shoot out . time and a penalty shoot out. fansin time and a penalty shoot out. fans in argentina celebrated their captain lionel, fans in argentina celebrated their captain lionel , who fans in argentina celebrated their captain lionel, who has finally won the biggest prize in football. messi scored twice in a33 draw that featured a hat trick for france's kylian mbappe. the game ended a shootout where argentina's saved one while another shot from france wide. many are already the match to be one of the greatest finals in the world history . you're up to date on tv history. you're up to date on tv , imdb plus radio. this is tv news. now let's get back to mark . news. now let's get back to mark. ma thanks, bethany. we'll see you in an hour's time. welcome to the final mark dolan tonight of the final mark dolan tonight of
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the year . big the final mark dolan tonight of the year. big stories, big guests and big opinions. we going out with a bang in the news agenda with my panel . as news agenda with my panel. as the military shiver in unheated poorly maintained this winter. do brits take the armed forces for granted. following an almighty round at m.a. is it wrong to eat tea after 11? and what about the all day breakfast? what are your eating rules when it comes to a timetable and the clock plus we've got tomorrow's papers at exactly 30 sharp with full panel and my mark meets guest. it's the booking of the year. and my mark meets guest. it's the booking of the year . the the booking of the year. the most famous man in the world and arguably the most important since in a world exclusive . since in a world exclusive. father christmas is in the studio at 10:15. keep the kids up. they will love it if they're in bed. play it back to them tomorrow. they won't want to miss it. lots to get through first. might take . a ten. jeremy
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first. might take. a ten. jeremy clarkson is annoying . all of the clarkson is annoying. all of the right people . there's been right people. there's been a huge backlash following his remarks about markle in his sun column yesterday . he said he column yesterday. he said he hated meghan on a cellular. he said she's worse than rose west, the mass murderer. said she's worse than rose west, the mass murderer . and he went the mass murderer. and he went on to say he was dreaming of the day when she's made to parade naked through the streets of every town in britain. whilst the crowds chant shame him and throw lumps excrement at her. he added, everyone who's my age thinks the same . whilst i'm thinks the same. whilst i'm meghan markle fan boy, i don't share his views. but he's entitled to them . i wouldn't use entitled to them. i wouldn't use that language and paraded naked and throwing eggs. that language and paraded naked and throwing eggs . drummond is a and throwing eggs. drummond is a bit strong my tastes, but this guy is paid to have an opinion
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and he's paid to be outrageous. he's of the country's best known and, most engaging journalists and, most engaging journalists and, tv presenters and it's not and, tv presenters and it's not an accident. why he's spent a career as a highly disruptive and, entertaining commentator. whether it's his un—pc in his motoring programmes or his spicy books and newspaper columns , books and newspaper columns, he's spent a career being naughty and may it continue. but predictably, the blue tick on twitter around for his blood with guru carol vorderman saying the following . no, jeremy the following. no, jeremy clarkson . not on any level . any clarkson. not on any level. any circumstance is it okay to write this stuff ? any woman and? this stuff? any woman and? absolutely no. to everyone my age thinks the same . no, no, no. age thinks the same. no, no, no. we absolutely do not think the same . she goes on. listen the same. she goes on. listen the noise. jeremy the crowds are
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chanting shame on you . now the chanting shame on you. now the problem that the former countdown star's don't add up. she hasn't done her homework . she hasn't done her homework. she's put two and two together and come up five. clarkson is clearly not saying that he wants to publicly flog this young woman. he doesn't her to walk down the street naked . and he down the street naked. and he doesn't really prefer the mass murderer. rose west . it's murderer. rose west. it's provocative journalism . and it's provocative journalism. and it's that other thing that the woke elite haven't picked on and never will. that he's joking. it is deliberately outrageous language . so absurdly language. so absurdly over—the—top as to be satirical and comic rather than literal free speech. it's not always pretty. it's not always comfortable . sometimes it comfortable. sometimes it provides a platform for individuals that or i may find unpalatable . well, that's unpalatable. well, that's a price worth paying. and it
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always has been . keep motoring always has been. keep motoring along. jeremy this famous car fanatic not hit the emergency on his provoked without provocative journalism. absolutely not. and jeremy, no u—turns . the fact jeremy, no u—turns. the fact that it's offended as many people as it's entertained proves that, as always clarkson's work is top gear. what's your view, marc . what's your view, marc. gbnews.uk let's get the reaction now of my brilliant panel, bestselling author and columnist emma wolff, legendary journalist and broadcaster nina minskoff , and broadcaster nina minskoff, who spends her christmases with me and her husband and businessman and political commentator ali mirage. ali, what do you of jeremy clarkson's exploits massive column in yesterday's sun . oh look i'm yesterday's sun. oh look i'm a jeremy clarkson fan. i don't agree with his words. i think that they're in very poor taste. i don't think he should have
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used such colourful language at all. i you need to be all. i think you need to be temperate these matters. temperate in these matters. i think he clearly is one of meghan markle fan. i'm not particularly a great fan myself. i watch the 6 hours i mean, i did watch the 6 hours of the and meghan of the harry and meghan documentary 6 hours of documentary that 6 hours of my life i will get back. life that i will not get back. i love that they call themselves h&m, was a high h&m, which i thought was a high street retail, apparently street retail, but apparently is their affectionate one their affectionate term for one another. i also discovered that they great taste in home they have great taste in home furnishings. don't furnishings. but look, i don't that harry and meghan should be particularly harry should be selling down the selling his family down the river in way. i'm sure that they have some legitimate grievances, but she think but meghan, what did she think she getting herself she was getting herself into? i mean , did harry, miss sell the mean, did harry, miss sell the whole thing ? i mean, if you are whole thing? i mean, if you are a royal, it's a pretty boring life in many, many ways. you can't are restricted . what can't you are restricted. what you can't express your you say, you can't express your opinion be the opinion and you can't be the belle the ball you belle of the ball all the you are going play second fiddle are going to play second fiddle to and that's just to william and kate. that's just the it is. so i know what the way it is. so i know what the way it is. so i know what the expectations were. maybe it was always to fail. i think that they have added of they could have added a lot of value. royal family.
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value. the royal family. i understand there, were some understand that there, were some gnpes understand that there, were some gripes grievances, was gripes and some grievances, was hoping have been hoping that they could have been ironed the thing ironed out. but the thing i could understand about the could never understand about the two of them is that when they announced vancouver that announced vancouver island that they a life, they they wanted a quiet life, they wanted they wanted to wanted to retire, they wanted to be glare. the be away from the glare. the doing exactly the doing exactly, exactly the opposite signing and agreeing opposite by signing and agreeing with now going to get the with is now going to get the book coming next year by harry. you interview . i you had the oprah interview. i think going to law think there's going to be a law of diminishing returns for them at but there's at the moment, but there's a business built around business model is built around monetising grievance and that can last long. so can only last so long. so i disagree. clarkson but the substance the substance of the issue have sympathy in issue i have some sympathy in terms of i just don't think they should behaving way. should be behaving this way. i think deeply unedifying . think it's deeply unedifying. yes, i mean, emma wolf, i found a from a very influential a tweet from a very influential pr expert , a publicity relations pr expert, a publicity relations person who said, good grief, that it's awful in relation to jeremy clarkson's article . i'm jeremy clarkson's article. i'm not a harry or meghan fan . that not a harry or meghan fan. that is disgraceful. and it's a editor who allowed that to go out in do we not have freedom
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speech?i out in do we not have freedom speech? i support of speech, but i had exactly same thought which i had exactly same thought which i think we i think jeremy clarkson has made a complete fool of himself and where was his editor to let that go out? but you said allowed to go. yeah. now we shouldn't. this is a mean, i'm a free country. i mean, i'm going stop burning books. going to stop burning books. emma the current emma wolff in the current climate of threats and violence against you know, has against which, as you know, has always been but the always been around, but in the current heightened awareness around threats and violence against , this not against women, this should not have written . you say he's have been written. you say he's edgy, he's terrible, he's funny. i don't mind . i like clever i don't mind. i like clever satire. i like funny humour. this wasn't funny. it wasn't clever. it was actually really to talk about, you clever. it was actually really to talk about , you know, to talk about, you know, fantasising about a woman parading naked with excrement and i'm no meghan fan agree with everything that allie has said about meghan and harry. in fact, i would go even further than that in my criticism of them . that in my criticism of them. but you know, the silly thing is jeremy clarkson is just feeding into the harry and hysteria. the best thing that he could have
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done was to ignore them instead which he's feeding this this this fantasy they've got this fantasy that the whole media is against them and that everybody is threatening them and treating them badly, frankly , they wanted them badly, frankly, they wanted privacy. they should have got on with having privacy about signing all these deals. i appreciate that you don't enjoy the article and the comments made but we in a society a world that has values where you just have to accept those, you have to put up with them, there has to put up with them, there has to be stuff out there irresponsible, outrageous as long as it's within the law . long as it's within the law. fair game. i don't mind it when it's clever or when it's humorous or when it's the who decides clever. who decides if it's clever, some people might think very clever because think it's very clever because he's satirical. he's he's being satirical. he's satirical. a clever man satirical. he's not a clever man . i'm no fan of jeremy clarkson, unlike yeah , just think unlike ali. and yeah, just think that i think that his editor was clocked off early for christmas . nina, you've been in fleet for so many years . you've published so many years. you've published
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global significant stories. you how journalism works. jeremy's doing his job and he's doing it brilliant . doing his job and he's doing it brilliant. he's crossed a line . brilliant. he's crossed a line. i am a i like ali. i'm huge jeremy clarkson fan. i do like the sort of the blokey side of things. too much . but i actually things. too much. but i actually read his sunday column this morning and really enjoyed it. i was thinking to myself, you know, that's great because he he an ability to communicate . and an ability to communicate. and he's quite self—deprecating and he's quite self—deprecating and he's he's he's very , very he's he's he's very, very astute. however with this. he has crossed a line he has absolutely cross the line because because of the misogyny, the you know i'm carol vorderman . absolutely right . this the you know i'm carol vorderman . absolutely right. this has taken it to a level that nobody should sink to you and you can try and get away with it by saying it's satirical you can try and make it a joke but it's not funny. and i'll tell i'll tell you why it's not funny because when this i heard this being broadcast when you were trailing this , there were two trailing this, there were two men in the green . we were all
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men in the green. we were all sitting who was about it, who, as soon as it was read out, were laughing about it and laughing about it. now to me, says it hasn't landed, right? they weren't thinking this is satirical this is jeremy telling a joke. they laughing it because they were laughing at image and thatis they were laughing at image and that is the dangerous thing. i know i am for freedom of speech, but when it's incitement to violence, which it can be, you can well, who knows going to do that? there going to be some that? there is going to be some out are not there are not us out there i mean look at it. look at across in america, know, across in america, you know, where more heightened where it's far more heightened than is here. the who attacked nancy pelosi's husband. you know i mean , nina, i hear you. but i mean, nina, i hear you. but you know, i don't i won't defend the comments because i've said they're not my cup of tea just as jemmy carr's joke about the holocaust and is was also not my cup of tea but in both cases i defend their rights to in jimmy's case tell that joke and in clarkson's case to write that
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article because the alternative is rather troubling. the idea that somehow this sort of material can not be available to the public. we must be not not exposed to this stuff. that's that's that's the argument for twitter for social media that people can say anything. but in fact, that's where social media has gone wrong because there are people views that actually people with views that actually are dangerous, tough luck. well, i mean. no, no, no, it's not that tough luck because the attempt to police those views leads of twitter to leads in the case of twitter to leading doctors getting cancelled twitter because cancelled from twitter because they're about they're government data about vaccines or covid. the bottom line is it's no body's job to police what is acceptable or not acceptable. nina, you've got law and everything else is all game as as as as a society have a certain we have certain standard and we maintain those standards . it's not like we're not i'm not saying we should be like communist china where, you know, all personal views subject to some kind of or iran or wherever
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. it's not like that. well, that's where going. but then incitement to violence is very different , mark. very, very different, mark. very, very different, mark. very, very different . you have children. different. you have children. you have children who are growing up. do you want them growing up. do you want them growing up. do you want them growing up in a world reading that kind of that kind of nastiness about women? is that what you want. there are, what you want. yeah. there are, as mentioned, unpalatable as i've mentioned, unpalatable in the and there's no in the world and there's no point cancelling them or silence them because that is a centrally you have people, your children . you have people, your children. thatis you have people, your children. that is terrible. you have to you to an environment where people use platforms like a national newspaper or the internet or twitter or facebook and they put their stuff out there . so the line, emma, you there. so the line, emma, you have your children to be reading that kind of stuff. what's it look. i said it's not my cup of tea. not defending the tea. i'm not defending the sentiment or the words. his right to say them. that's the point it. what he what's point isn't it. what he what's he against law. i oh he written against the law. i oh no law. that law is the incitement to violence. i keep repeating this because that is the actual crux of it. it's the
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it's the it's the putting the inmates all the naked woman being dragged through the streets and having extra excrement thrown at her that is not an image to put in people's minds. no, i mean, i mentioned i mentioned my big opening monologue. it's a bit strong. i'll give you that. beyonce however, it is the line . anyway, however, it is the line. anyway, where was the editor, all of the inquiry, her, her. you know, this guy's paid to i can't find you know what he's written is profoundly distasteful . agree profoundly distasteful. agree with you, emma. i don't really want my kids reading it. you've got boys. you want reading stuff about women and girls. there's enough trouble with and young boys growing up, you nina is available to young men and therefore women are being disrespected are not they are not seen as human individuals look to at look at the messages amongst police officers that were recently uncovered. yeah it's that kind violence, casual misogyny . just a really, really misogyny. just a really, really offensive look. we can't create a perfect world, but do we
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really want that? do we need this of stuff? no, we don't. it's not even casual misogyny. this is absolute direct misogyny. it is. absolutely. yeah i look at what what he's written not pleasant. and written is not pleasant. and i wouldn't write it, but i can't see how broken the law. and i think rather the court of public opinion should step in. i think stop, stop the sun newspaper. can i offer some context. by the way, two things, ali. first of all, he also said that the she's worse at meghan markle is worse than rose west . okay. now, rose than rose west. okay. now, rose west is someone that was complicit in the murder of several women. their bodies were buned several women. their bodies were buried the patio of their buried in the patio of their property . and he says meghan property. and he says meghan markle's so wildly exaggerated it. he's clearly joking at altar briefly with the clock lying there's a lawyer this this walking down the street naked, having excrement thrown at you is a reference to game of thrones, which is why you watch guys try and look. i've heard that i haven't watched game of thrones i've had very good but
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yes i've heard that but the thing is there are there are enough i'm not that you enough i'm not saying that you should you should use your language to just try and placate, may go off placate, not as you may go off and do strange ridiculous and do strange and ridiculous things. think it's an things. but i do think it's an editorial question taste editorial question. taste particularly dealing with particularly you're dealing with someone this manner. someone in this in this manner. i could have been i think you could have been equally robust i mean, i've been robust both harry and robust about both harry and meghan the fact meghan in the fact that i totally what they totally disagree with what they do. think it's in really do. and i think it's in really poor taste what they doing. okay. i'm saying not okay. but i'm not saying i'm not going to language like that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthinko language like that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthink it's language like that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthink it's i language like that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthink it's i don'tjage like that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthink it's i don't thinkike that. okay. but i'm not saying i'm not gthink it's i don't think it; that. i think it's i don't think it was the right thing to do by. jeremy clarkson, what a really fascinating debate. and look, my panel interesting what panel are so interesting in what they said. your view? they said. what's your view? mark@gbnews.uk this is not a drill. live the studio drill. next live in the studio the most important man the the most important man in the world. hope kids are still world. i hope the kids are still up. him, out bed. up. if not him, out of bed. father christmas is .
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we've got the papers at 1030 sharp, but i am starstruck. it's time this . yes, it's time time this. yes, it's time for mark meets in which i speak to the biggest names in the world politics, sport, showbiz and beyond. tonight's in a world exclusive. i'm delighted to be joined by the most famous in the world and arguably the most important all the way from lapland, father christmas , lapland, father christmas, welcome to gb news. thank you, mark. privilege to you. i was going to ask how you got here. not a tax . i would have thought not a tax. i would have thought not. not a boris bike. how did you get here? well i came in the way i normally do, which is the reindeer came into our pensarn and i had a cab to run me from vince. and because i get very shy and this time of night, there's still people around . so there's still people around. so they're up at benson and just they're up at benson and just the taxi driver, does he charge or does he know that when you
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follow the christmas that's got to ? no, i pay my to be a freebie? no, i pay my way . it's not something can way. it's not something can i ask you? because it's a very modern building here at gb news world class 21st century studio. but we have a chimney. was it big ? i was all right. i didn't big? i was all right. i didn't even need use the chimney. i love not using chimney, as you can imagine. i mean , you're can imagine. i mean, you're built for a chimney better than i am. and so when i can come. in through a door. yes, please. i even ask parents sometimes when i see with their children. i see them with their children. do think i use the do you think i could use the magic key, though i know do you think i could use the maga: key, though i know do you think i could use the maga chimney? though i know do you think i could use the maga chimney? isiough i know do you think i could use the maga chimney? isthat1 i know do you think i could use the maga chimney? is that wonderful got a chimney? is that wonderful i'm sure do the old chimney i'm sure you do the old chimney for times do you. yeah for. old times sake do you. yeah i maintain a certain and i do my gymnastics to trying to keep a chimney fit . yeah. can i ask you chimney fit. yeah. can i ask you lots of really important questions that we need to out. first of all, do you actually like to have mince pies on arrival. should and dad and the kids, should they leave out a little drop of scotch ? what is little drop of scotch? what is your preferred reward ? what is a your preferred reward? what is a little treat? they should leave
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. well, my absolute favourite is a mince pie or biscuit, but i really it with milk and my favourite is flavoured milk . i favourite is flavoured milk. i love a c say one or two mince pies and some chocolate milk. not too many houses i have to go to. yeah. your chimney days will be behind you. they it's been really hard couple of years . so really hard couple of years. so many people, most people have suffered as a result of the pandemic. has it affected father christmas ? not very much . one of christmas? not very much. one of the few effects is that i do love to go and visit children who have been really good and really kind at home in the run up to christmas while, the elves are taking care of all the security work. yeah, and for a little while. i couldn't actually go the homes to actually go into the homes to visit i had to just do visit them. i had to just do doorstep visits. i or even visits through zoom zoom. you call on say father christmas has done zoom yes. yes. teams, meetings that sort of thing. zoom i've done zoom. you want to go easy because you got the
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sleigh, haven't you? if i sit around, it's an so i remember that from last of years that you leave stuff the door and then and then the family parents could bring it in and of course that was fantastic. but you basically like lots of people, you kept going during the pandemic, basically. oh, yeah. i mean, carry on being mean, children carry on being kind to carry on being good. yeah we can't ignore them and not give them a christmas or board . would never drag board. now, i would never drag you the world politics. you into the world of politics. well, i'm glad . yeah, although well, i'm glad. yeah, although i would a lib , but would suspect you're a lib, but we won't speculate. i have keir starmer and rishi sunak being good boys this year. starmer and rishi sunak being good boys this year . they will good boys this year. they will be getting a visit. good luck . be getting a visit. good luck. and we shall say more than that . no more than that. right. and tell me this. let's talk about your up in lapland . of all you your up in lapland. of all you know, we've got industrial action in the uk. have the elves gone on? no, no. my have never struck . they they're happy . i struck. they they're happy. i think basically we're good employers and the are formed
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guilds so you know the elves and i we're working together it's not a case of you can't have anything i've got to have it all we just work together. sounds a bit like the john lewis partnership everyone's invest a bit like that yeah nicely done i'm how is riddle ? thank you for i'm how is riddle? thank you for asking. i didn't know what had leaked out. it hasn't at all. well, he had reindeer flu, which is like man flu. you know how bad man flu is. yes, reindeer flu is even worse. but now his nose right back to red and glowing. so everything is well. that's good . he's he's pulling that's good. he's he's pulling that sleigh . the other the other that sleigh. the other the other reindeer. they're not cruel to him any more. no no, that was mainly olive . yeah. you know, mainly olive. yeah. you know, only if they have the reindeer. let him play. she's a bit feisty . she. wow yes , but that's why . she. wow yes, but that's why we love it, too. yeah yeah. and listen this could be a little awkward, but i've heard rumours that you're going to replace rudolph with a tesla. is that
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true? no that's nonsense . true? no that's nonsense. there's nothing like a reindeer for bringing sleigh. i mean, a tesla . well, as things are, we'd tesla. well, as things are, we'd have to keep rachel ageing and it hasn't got the speed that the reindeer have. i imagine trying to get all around the world in one night in car it just wouldn't work your work op is something to behold . how are you something to behold. how are you coping with those energy bills. because got machines lighting course the elves busy at work as well. i mean your electricity bill must be through the roof. no we. we have our own developed by elf engineers. no we. we have our own developed by elf engineers . and i think by elf engineers. and i think you call it geothermal because it's so much hotter down below than our frozen top that we generate our own power our own heat, our own, you know , hot heat, our own, you know, hot water and everything without having to be on a grid. because imagine if the poor companies are trying to lay a grid out to
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the pole. it wouldn't the north pole. it just wouldn't work. well, i'm work. no, for sure. well, i'm glad to that father christmas is eco friendly. another tough for you to answer. and i'll be eyeballing you for this one. is that beard . why on earth does that beard. why on earth does anyone want to mean that's not real? that would be ridiculous . real? that would be ridiculous. of course it's real. you've just given it a tug. we have. we have definitive proof. and i look what motivates you, what drives every year, because you have delivering gifts to children and, good people year in year out. will there come a time when you hang up your sleigh , when you hang up your sleigh, when you hang up your sleigh, when you rest your weary bones and you rest your weary bones and you retire ? i think if it ever you retire? i think if it ever came around that there were no good , no good grown ups , then good, no good grown ups, then that might be . but as you say, that might be. but as you say, there always good people and always want to give them the gift in fact, look, i have a little present for you because you've been a good person and
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that's for you i. i'm not going and moving too far forward because i don't know how well i am set on this the cool off next christmas we'd like some new please use a couple of microphones if you've got them spare well keep being good and we can just say that this the most profound honour to a gift and the book is santa and the gingerbread . is this your book ? gingerbread. is this your book? yes. yes, i wrote that book . yes. yes, i wrote that book. haven't actually obviously put my own name it but yes i had wonderful thing a little close up of that. what a charming, charming book . can santa claus charming book. can santa claus help the gingerbread man stay safe from everyone who to eat him? it might need a miracle but miracles can happen father christmas they say you , should christmas they say you, should never meet your heroes. well, that's nonsense. it's been an absolute thrill. do you have message for the little boys and the little girls out there? because i know that a few of them have stayed up this interview. what was your . interview. what was your. there'll be a few watching back tomorrow. what you like to say
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tomorrow. what you like to say to the boys and girls about? about what should do on christmas and night christmas day and the night before? what the rules here? before? what are the rules here? what they to know? okay. what do they need to know? okay. there are no rules, but there are no specific rules, but i like see children and adults being kind. i would say to children, please be kind to one another. be kind to your grown ups and grown ups. be kind to your children, be kind to each other and look at what your children do. and proud of them because do think of your because they do think of your girls. you must be so proud of them. i right? of and every them. am i right? of and every up should be proud of their children because being a child. if when a grown up child like yours . but being if when a grown up child like yours. but being a child is hard work , isn't it? it's such a hard work, isn't it? it's such a hard work, isn't it? it's such a hard work , correct? it most certainly work, correct? it most certainly is. but not as hard work as being father christmas, who travels the world in december distributing gifts and spreading j'oy distributing gifts and spreading joy and, glee and pleasure and happiness . love, of course . happiness. love, of course. well, look, it was great to see father christmas. you'll be seeing him again on the 25th of
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december. thank you so much for that. brilliant, brilliant britain. let it be a sleep well , that's it. they shouldn't see me. they should be right. right. so that is wonderful. by the way, sorry about we should get to the break, but do the kids the children need to be in bed on the 24th, which is christmas eve? yes. do you come on the 25th? in the early hours or did it start on the 24th? when did the deliveries begin? it starts once dark on the 24th, the reindeer to shine in the daytime. right. and it rolls around because, of course, it goes dark different times goes dark at different times around we actually around world. so we actually have than see. so have more than 12 hours, see. so it's as of twilight hours off to 2014. so the 25th and light, light hermes, do you do like an hour slot or anything ? oh, no, hour slot or anything? oh, no, no no, no, no. mother christmas is far organised to say you're going to do it in an hour. she, she does all the logistics to get us. exactly the right place at the right time when the children are going to be asleep, when the grown ups aren't going to be looking for us, the
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clanking the fighting? welcome back to the show wasn't it wonderful to meet father christmas? it's time now for the papers and here they are hot off the press. we've got the daily mail outrage at neville's world cup rant over uk strikes. gary neville sparked by comparing striking workers with migrant labourers in qatar. the football pundh labourers in qatar. the football pundit launched a bizarre rant dunng pundit launched a bizarre rant during itv's of the world cup final, saying that british ministers were demonising public sector staff. he claimed the conditions for striking nurses and railway workers were like those faced by qatar's huge foreign labour force. the gulf states has been criticised over allegedly employment practises
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and for the number of deaths construction projects . hardly construction projects. hardly the parallel surely , the agony the parallel surely, the agony and the ecstasy , the agony of and the ecstasy, the agony of a loser's hug from emmanuel macron. i mean, your days going bad, you've been knocked out of the world cup, then you've got to hug emmanuel macron and the ecstasy as little maestro messi lifts the world cup at last, you see the greatest of all time the daily telegraph . now, messi daily telegraph. now, messi cemented his place as the world's greatest player in the world cup's best final strikes , world cup's best final strikes, elderly in hospitals, walkouts likely to leave some patients unable to be discharged for christmas . also, festive traffic christmas. also, festive traffic , busiest ever as drivers shun unreliable trains and planes. the times now bullying claims could prevent period for johnson's ex , dan rosenfeld was johnson's ex, dan rosenfeld was nominated by boris johnson. but he may not get the gong cup epic endsin he may not get the gong cup epic ends in victory. he may not get the gong cup epic ends in victory . marvel, messi, ends in victory. marvel, messi,
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air force strikes to wreak havoc . border force strikes threaten misery for millions of passengers arriving at uk airports during the first restriction free christmas three years under . contingency plans years under. contingency plans being drawn up, passengers will being drawn up, passengers will be held on aircraft to prevent overcrowding in. airport arrival halls during strikes. welcome to britain oh that sounds dreadful it just the guardian next especially if it's ryanair i'm only i love ryanair. we'll talk about that in a minute. champions messi's crowning glory and workers who made genes for tesco trapped ineffective or forced labour? burmese workers who f and f genes for tesco in thailand report being trapped in forced labour and working nine hour weeks for illegally low pay in appalling conditions. hour weeks for illegally low pay in appalling conditions . this, in appalling conditions. this, according to an exclusive guardian investigation. the daily express . surely the daily express. surely the greatest final ever. messi inspires argentina to world cup glory. nurses do a deal to end
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the strikes . nursing unions are the strikes. nursing unions are willing to compromise over their pay willing to compromise over their pay demands raising fresh hopes of a deal to end dispute before christmas . more good news, christmas. more good news, though, is that big a pity? a monologue not far off the daily mirror now. cold heart tories putting lives at risk. the tories are risking lives in failing to avert this week's strikes by nhs staff have warned. health secretary barclay is still refusing to hold talks on nurses pay. that could stop the walkouts tomorrow . the the walkouts tomorrow. the independent's message moment. the greatest player. the greatest final. the greatest prize and christmas warning over rising covid 19 cases. britain's going home for christmas have been warned the dangers of covid for vulnerable family. as more than 10,000 people could be in hospital with the virus by the end of the year, said. if they are not in my in my world, it's not. we'll discuss that shortly . the sun newspaper greatest world cup final since 96. in the
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hand god at last messi wins the holy grail. the i the greatest messi edges mbappe in epic final shootout and delayed 999 cool response times are costing lives warn paramedic. no sugar sherlock the metro next. this is not our battle as troops go in force is chief warns over strikes . the head of britain's strikes. the head of britain's armed forces has warned the government his personnel are not spare capacity to use during strikes as fears grow over soldiers driving ambulances in this week's 999 walkouts. and last but not least, the daily star don't share duvet with pooch move rover fido . hot dogs pooch move rover fido. hot dogs overheat the covers. no more duvet days . vets say that dogs duvet days. vets say that dogs can overheat if they share your bed and snuggle up under the covers , for crying out loud. covers, for crying out loud. that's right. crying out loud . that's right. crying out loud. have they ever tried to get a £75 labrador to sleep in its basket? what a basket case. those are your front pages .
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those are your front pages. look, lots of stories to get through . how about this fresh through. how about this fresh material here ? nina minkoff from material here? nina minkoff from the daily . outrage at neville's the daily. outrage at neville's world cup rant over strikes , world cup rant over strikes, drawing parallels with those going on strike in this country. the rmt . the nurse is, of the rmt. the nurse is, of course, with qatari slaves who built stadia. is that a parallel you can make? i don't think it's a parallel. you can if you if you're a sensible person . but on you're a sensible person. but on the other hand, i haven't actually seen or heard what he's what he said. but i imagine what he's saying is that if you do not have the right to strike , not have the right to strike, then this is where it can end up . and what i'm saying. . and that's what i'm saying. yeah. mean, let me get to you. yeah. i mean, let me get to you. the qatar, the qatari workers had absolutely no rights at all it a 5000. it's supposed to it was a 5000. it's supposed to 5000, 6000, 6000 casualties. exactly so he's what i'm hoping he's doing is to is to highlight why the strikers are absolutely the right to have the right to
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have the rights to do it. but also, he's saying, just to give you a little context, according to david churchill in the mail, he's great journalist to neville, has said that the conditions for striking nurses and railway workers were like those faced by qatar's huge labour force . why? why is going labour force. why? why is going to the football punditry that he was meant to be doing him? i mean, why is even talking about watching the bbc , is he watching the bbc, is he assuaging his for taking the qatari dollar ? well, maybe he qatari dollar? well, maybe he is. i don't know. but mean i wish that pundits football punst wish that pundits football pundits would stick to analysis of the game which was which wasn't a amazing game but they got a lot of stick for saying look i think that that that should never have been in qatar. there's a lot of dirty you know, past for qatar to host. having said that. yeah but it was there so when they would just before it started there was a lot of stink thrown at people who were
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enabung stink thrown at people who were enabling it to continue, if you like. and so i think gary lineker said he would speak out and everybody else said they would they would use it to highlight rights, human rights and rainbow armbands , all this and rainbow armbands, all this stuff which never came to pass . stuff which never came to pass. meaning the one thing. right. we keep saying it shouldn't have been held in qatar. what utter nonsense. time this is nonsense. next time this is going be in the us going to be held in the us a country which has got death country which has got the death penalty ban abortion. penalty is to ban abortion. certain is going to go certain states. is going to go around wearing armbands next time this is in the time when this is held in the uk. but they do. did they. did they ban the in china? they ban the winter in china? people have. i what people do have. i what they should debate china. rather should debate in china. rather i mean it be in us next mean should it be in the us next time. well they do have but they will be have rights and laws and you know, though with the you know, even though with the things also the things that we also have the death which don't death penalty which we don't agree inhumane and agree with what inhumane and utterly what absolutely agree with what inhumane and uttethat what absolutely agree with what inhumane and uttethat it's what absolutely agree with what inhumane and uttethat it's not hat absolutely agree with what inhumane and uttethat it's not likeabsolutely agree with what inhumane and uttethat it's not like with utely agree with what inhumane and uttethat it's not like with they but that it's not like with the death penalty that that's going to affect world for to affect the world cup, for heaven's . well, i mean, heaven's sake. well, i mean, over here were saying that they treated their work as bad. shouldn't should shouldn't have actually should
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it is it shouldn't. what i'm saying is because have the death. no, because they have the death. no, i'm saying at all. what i'm not saying that at all. what i'm not saying that at all. what i'm saying is let's be even handed down treatment when people about lgbtq. people are going on about lgbtq. plus have our own in plus we have our own views in this country, which are very well and established. well founded and established. we're and we're very inclusive. and the whole the catholic divided whole of the catholic is divided on so let's put on gay marriage. so let's put this perspective, this in some perspective, please. know, why please. you know, this is why i think people just doing down think the people just doing down on qatar all the time, they have different set of values. have different set of values. we have our are absolutely our own values are absolutely right values. to right to express values. but to say they have been held in say that they have been held in qatar virtue is utter. no, it's not. no, it's might be lgbtq people. yes, you can be put to death there. well, hang on a second. right. there is a view amongst qataris, but lgbt, lgbtq+ people. right. we they have a completely different view to the view that we have in this country that we should we should all be we should express it. but you shouldn't go there. you should not go there. but what about about about? about what about what about? china well, we china and the weakness? well, we let you draw the line on this, because, look chat about abortion, wade
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abortion, roe versus wade overturned mutilation. overturned for mutilation. of course, africa. absolutely. there's but this affected there's all of but this affected the fans who who were plus that affected them, did it not? yeah so what the tories is going to wear armbands if we're having an event here because because some people in the country believe in polyamory. i mean he's not going to next guy that's been to be the next guy that's been seriously this like this is seriously this is like this is like neo colonialist mindset like a neo colonialist mindset that go around imposing our that we go around imposing our values. we have . we should we values. we have. we should we should be proud of being cultural imperialism. no we want to say we should show . i think to say we should show. i think we don't have to agree with the qataris on their views. and i personally, i think should be personally, i think we should be very the way we conduct very proud the way we conduct ourselves in this country. but other different other people have a different view, catholic church, view, including catholic church, including the anglican including the even the anglican church in africa for sake. i understand exactly what you're saying . but i'm not saying we saying. but i'm not saying we should impose our views or our or our beliefs on them. let them have that that's their country. that's their. but then we
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shouldn't be going there and playing football and pretending it's all i'm saying is we should be going to the us and playing football it wasn't a football if it wasn't a fascinating debate, a brief word on this, you. i'm obviously, on this, if you. i'm obviously, as know, a speech as you know, a free speech absolutist so entitled to absolutist. so he's entitled to make comments. neville make these comments. neville however , is a great look for. however, is a great look for. someone that's there to talk about football, as ali mentioned . no, mean, but i think . no, i mean, but i think everything has just said, everything ali has just said, i'm surprised to myself. i'm surprised to find myself. i think that's the same as thing anyone about and anyone said about qatar and unfashionable yeah, unfashionable as well. yeah, really really really unfashionable. i'm really interesting, we don't interesting, ali. well, we don't have with them. don't agree have to with them. i don't agree with anyway ali. i honestly but that's literally the first time ali's been interesting . so ali's been interesting. so i think and i just enjoy the moment in the home in ali's home. ali is an a—list panellist. he's always bothered to listen to. we love ali. we love nina. and love emma. and they're back in just a couple of minutes. more from the papers. don't go anywhere .
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we've been going through papers and emma, nina , ali and myself and emma, nina, ali and myself have agreed that there's much to add to the striking story, except that basically the country's not working at the moment, the nurses are on strike the greatest out when the snow happened and if you notice that one and then of course we've got rail and i think you can get a bus the other day bus and the bus the other day bus and the bus as it were and then everyone's in the car business is interesting. one of the one of the papers pointing out that the festive traffic the telegraph festive traffic busiest as drivers shun busiest ever as drivers shun unreliable trains and planes . it unreliable trains and planes. it goes to show nina you kind you can't completely give up the car can't completely give up the car can use the ultimate insurance policy because you if can't policy because you if you can't get lucky get somewhere, if you're lucky enough to have a car and be able to afford to put petrol in it, which you know, a while this which you know, for a while this year was dodgy then god sake year it was dodgy then god sake do all we need the binmen to do it all we need the binmen to go out on strike . this country
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go out on strike. this country will sink into a sea of rubbish that's. did you not notice that the snow effect mortuary are going out? well, then we're dead and left . dead and buried reads and left. dead and buried reads and left. dead and buried reads a quick story in the guardian folks worrying story workers who made jeans for tesco in effective forced . ali on that effective forced. ali on that one i would say well that's a surprise . i mean, i think it's surprise. i mean, i think it's impossible, sadly, live in the west and buy clothing that isn't in some way or another the product of exploitation. well, look, this be look, this should be investigated thoroughly . and if investigated thoroughly. and if that found the case, that is found to be the case, then look at their supply then should look at their supply chains. i think it to me is it feeds into a bigger issue. mark about fashion and about about false fashion and about the that there is this the fact that there is this relentless to consuming relentless to keep consuming constantly this treadmill of consumption . and more and more consumption. and more and more and more i just we should look it so not going to dictate to people what they should how people what they should or how they their lives. they should live their lives. right but i just think it would be nice. we just got back to some spent with people. we some time spent with people. we actually and actually
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actually care about and actually buy less but buy better quality stuff that lasts longer. that would advice. i think would be my advice. i think that's brilliant idea i like, that's a brilliant idea i like, man lovely shot, but man. it's a lovely shot, but i went in there recently and actually was just after england got out the world cup got knocked out of the world cup selling jumpers with selling christmas jumpers with footballs there's a football footballs on. there's a football world cup christmas jumper thousands minute thousands of those the minute are out the world cup. are out of the world cup. they're going into landfill. they're going into landfill. they exactly. and who's to they exactly. and who's going to wear cup christmas jumper wear the cup christmas jumper next be next year? there'll be new christmas does christmas jumpers. it does bother doesn't it's bother you, doesn't it? it's quite who reported quite at the times who reported the military barracks are lacking heating and that all soldiers are being housed in substandard conditions . do brits substandard conditions. do brits take the armed forces for granted? emma well, i'm a pacifist, so i would prefer not to have and it's ludicrous for not to have an armed force at all. but given that we have them, we need to look after them because they their lives on the line and we even put line and we can't even put a roof their head nina they roof over their head nina they put their on the line put they their lives on the line and they can't strike. yeah. so they are they have put up with they are they have put up with the conditions they're in the conditions that they're in and defence .
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and the ministry of defence. absolutely not doing it. i mean the last time we were actually in war they didn't have the right equipment, didn't have the right equipment, didn't have the right combat gear, were it right combat gear, they were it was was dreadful it was was just it was dreadful it was absolute dreadful and we don't if you take for granted, if you take them for granted, the takes them the government takes them for granted. drama at manus. granted. some drama at manus. okay. they get a little plugs tonight. only other supermarkets available. i like sainsbury's . available. i like sainsbury's. is that wrong? and waitrose. but anyway, let's not go that bit of aldi as well. when feeling dirty. marks and spencers have sparked fury following their decision to end the sale of teacakes 11 am. in their cafes . i believe it's led to the exile a boss who inflicted this rule across the country delighted to say m&s being a very sensible and brilliant company to reverse the decision and you can have tea cakes after 11 am. because customers were so what do we think folks . 11 am. because customers were so what do we think folks. is it okay to have a tea cake after 11 am? what are your eating rules in terms of times of the day, nina? well, i was going to say, first of all, define a tea cake.
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i don't think i've ever had one, but it's rather nice. but it's rather, rather nice. it's sort of so i it's got sort of fruit. so i then we've got some photos believe that faye has got a few images. you're not allowed to come last show of the year come on last show of the year and the tea cake it's and i think the tea cake it's a similar to tunnock's teacake similar to a tunnock's teacake isn't so you've got little isn't it. so you've got a little layer and then you've got the chocolate, too a chocolate, which too like a scarf. more like scarf. i think it's more like has uke scarf. i think it's more like has like a scone. yeah. has gone like a scone. yeah. well i thought it was a scone like a why what. did you like a why what. why did you think and i think you split think so. and i think you split it and butter on it. that's, it and put butter on it. that's, that's just my glove and you and i'm confused because i thought the was either the tea cake was either tunnock's tea. that's something different well, different or that. okay, well, in let's thanks in that case let's thanks to educating yes. okay educating me on that. yes. okay confused to me is confused because to me tea is for a of tea slice of toast. for a cup of tea slice of toast. that's how it was in the wolf. a tea cake, therefore would tea cake, therefore you would have at tea time. so are they doing selling them? even selling them a.m. doing selling them? even selling them am. it isn't them before 11 am. it isn't shocking. thing is shocking. i think the thing is anybody anything used anybody can eat anything used be, you know, you'd have breakfast, lunch, dinner but i mean actually graze . you mean actually people graze. you people go out for lunch at 3:00
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in the afternoon or 5:00. you know something neighbouring said also some people also english at 10:00 at night. yes now here's the interesting thing . nigella the interesting thing. nigella had recipe last for had a recipe last for a breakfast trifle. now there's a thought as well. yeah. that's going to back to sherry in the mornings and recurrent for the show then i think the sort of the sort of the healthy aspect she had a few pomegranate seeds scattered over the top. this sort you're fruit sort of you know, you're fruit and very inspiring someone and very, very inspiring someone that's a of cherries that's had a couple of cherries is presenting is leo kearse presenting headline. highlight. hi headline. his next highlight. hi mark. i can't wait for the show tonight . mark. i can't wait for the show tonight. more papers tonight. thanks to thanks to headliners and some big stories. thanks to thanks to headliners and some big stories . yeah. from and some big stories. yeah. from 11 pm. i'm going to be going through tomorrow's top stories and stupid stories with two top comedians. katie marks and frances foster . we're comedians. katie marks and frances foster. we're going to be talking about the there was the massive boot . a trans the massive boot. a trans teacher in ontario who's been making things a bit normcore kids. leo, you had me at trans teacher merry christmas , new
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hello. welcome back . i'm bethany hello. welcome back. i'm bethany elsie. here to bring you up to date from the gb newsroom, the health says he's open to talks. the nurses union, the head of strike this week but suggested the government will not budge on pay the government will not budge on pay the rcn has threatened further industrial action in the new year if ministers don't respond within 48 hours of tuesday's walkout . steve barclay tuesday's walkout. steve barclay also said up to the union to ensure there's sufficient cover in place for emergencies during the industrial action warning patient safety would be affected if striking staff chose to only answer calls from picket line it
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