tv Patrick Christys GB News December 19, 2022 3:00pm-6:01pm GMT
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now. i don't know about you, but i actually feel remarkably good today. i think i'm getting in that christmas spirit. but yes , that christmas spirit. but yes, crocombe, with the news showing off me coming up, rwanda off about me coming up, rwanda is back on table week is back on the table week another strike and does speech is back on the table week anotireallyike and does speech is back on the table week anotireally go and does speech is back on the table week anotireally go too does speech is back on the table week anotireally go too .7ioes speech is back on the table week anotireally go too .7 thisspeech ever really go too.7 this afternoon we will hear from the home secretary who says that she's committed to making the plan to migrants to rwanda. well, gets off the ground and she address in the house of she will address in the house of commons just to that point. this
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supposed to have already happened about half an ago but it's delayed. might be it's been delayed. it might be delayed, fingers crossed you delayed, but fingers crossed you and the pleasure of and i will have. the pleasure of suella dulcet at suella braverman dulcet tones at some in the next 3 hours. some point in the next 3 hours. and this is after the court ruled plans ruled the government plans deport asylum seekers to rwanda orindeed deport asylum seekers to rwanda or indeed lawful and dismissing several challenges brought against we'll against the proposals. we'll bhng against the proposals. we'll bring address live as bring you that address live as and it ever happens right. and when it ever happens right. we will also bring you a gb news as the skipper of fishing boat, which helped rescue dozens of on the english channel last week, has angrily hit out at uk policy for the tragedy for making the tragedy inevitable and we wish you a merry strike . made me say that merry strike. made me say that as mass industrial action continues in the run up to the big day, today is the turn of driving instructors. how on earth. will we survive later this week, rail workers will walk out again tomorrow will see nurses and building staff on wednesday, the list goes on and on and on. last night the prime minister accused union boss mick lynch of making workers and border officials foot soldiers in his class war time and
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increasing number of union members deal. but do you members want a deal. but do you agree? debate or agree? we'll debate whether or not speech in the uk ever not free speech in the uk ever goes too jeremy says that goes too far. jeremy says that he's horrified to caused he's horrified to have caused so much and be more much hurt and he'll be more careful future. after careful in future. after backlash he made backlash about that he made about meghan but did the former gear presenter actually go too far ? i'm sure you've all seen far? i'm sure you've all seen and heard get your thoughts coming in vaiews@gbnews.uk. tweet me gb news. do think that flight 312 will actually take off , but flight 312 will actually take off, but right flight 312 will actually take off , but right now flight 312 will actually take off, but right now , yard lines. off, but right now, yard lines. a very good afternoon to you . a very good afternoon to you. it's 3:10. i'm rosie wright. let's get you up to date. the prime minister has welcomed the high court's ruling that the rwanda migrant plan is lawful, saying he's pleased the decision the royal courts justice has ruled that the policy sending asylum seekers who come to the illegally to then claim asylum in rwanda is consistent with the international refugee . the international refugee. the
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governments face legal challenges which are so far prevented any flights from taking off . charities have vowed taking off. charities have vowed to appeal today's decision, claiming that the east african nafion claiming that the east african nation lacks a fair and efficient asylum system . where efficient asylum system. where she sunak says the rwanda plan is just one part of tackling illegal migration . what we all illegal migration. what we all want to see and what i want to deliver is a system whereby if you come to the uk illegally you will not have the to stay and we will not have the to stay and we will be able return you to your own country . it's safe or a safe own country. it's safe or a safe alternative like rwanda. that's alternative like rwanda. that's a common sense position, i think, of the vast majority, the british public. it's my position and. that's what i want to deliver as prime minister some charity oppose the decision . charity oppose the decision. steve simmons he's director of amnesty international uk told gb news he thinks it's disappointing more that is put into simply stopping people making rather providing them the means to not need make the journey either finding safety in
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france or , finding a safe way of france or, finding a safe way of getting to the uk. the more we just go down the way we're going at the moment, the more dangerous the journeys are going to the out of sight to get, the more out of sight are going to be attempted and the more lives that will be put risk. the skipper of the fishing boat, which helped dozens of migrants from the channel last week, has hit out uk immigration for making the tragedy , he says, for making the tragedy, he says, inevitable . the government says inevitable. the government says it has a legal duty to pick up anyone in distress in the channel or skip arrangements and told gb news british. authorities have been acting as a migrant service, encouraging increasing numbers of people to make the journey . the uk make the journey. the uk government should look at patrol boats to stop the process . well, boats to stop the process. well, i see the patrol boats . they i see the patrol boats. they are, but you see them like a fox ship. it is . the mother of a ship. it is. the mother of a three year old girl has criticised the health secretary on the eve of another nationwide nurses strike. the nurses union has threatened further industrial action in the new
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yearif industrial action in the new year if ministers don't respond to their demands within 48 hours of tomorrow's walkout. steve barclay he's open to talks barclay says he's open to talks ahead of strike action but suggested the government wouldn't budge pay. the mother told barclay at a hospital in south london it's unfair to blame resourcing issues on the pandemic. we have problems in the nhs before went into the pandemic. we were short of jobs. we were short of that going into the pandemic. so i think it's really wrong to blame it on the pandemic and actually the damage that you're doing to the families like myself is terrible . the health secretary says he's to work with the unions to address range of concerns that matter to staff , but says they matter to staff, but says they must provide sufficient emergency cover to protect patients . need to focus on patients. need to focus on patients. need to focus on patients and addressing the backlogs that we have particularly the waiting for operations as a result of the pandemic and that's why it's that we work together and i'm very keen to continue those talks with the and the trade
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unions so we can mitigate impact on patient safety . it has heard on patient safety. it has heard that the four boys who fell into a frozen lake in solihull died from drowning . the children, from drowning. the children, aged between six and 11, were taken to hospital in critical condition after being pulled the water just over a week ago condition after being pulled the waterjust over a week ago . a water just over a week ago. a number of vigils have been held over the past to pay over the past week to pay tribute . jeremy clarkson has tribute. jeremy clarkson has apologised for he made about the duchess of sussex . over 6000 duchess of sussex. over 6000 complaints were made to the press regulator over an article he wrote in a newspaper in which he wrote in a newspaper in which he said he hated the duchess on a cellular level . well, clarkson a cellular level. well, clarkson wrote on twitter this afternoon , i'm horrified to have caused so much and i shall be so much hurt, and i shall be more careful in the future . more careful in the future. network wales warning strikes railway workers will cause needless misery by severely disrupting services over the festive period. thousands of rmt members will walk out from 6 pm. on christmas eve until the 27th of december. the rac said traffic will be especially this
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friday and saturday, in light of the strikes . with 20 million the strikes. with 20 million cars estimated to hit the motorway this week . you're up to motorway this week. you're up to date now on gb news. i'll bring you more as it happens. now back to patrick . to patrick. patrick well welcome aboard. everybody is patrick christys here on gb news. as you can see, we're going to get stuck into the strikes. but remember to keep those coming in on rwanda deportation plan being . there deportation plan being. there you go. who'd have thunk ? you go. who'd have thunk? vaiews@gbnews.uk do you think? actually, though, it is going to be a deterrent? do you think it'll work? do you think? it will happen. do you think we need those views need more? all of those views get coming in. but let's get them coming in. but let's get them coming in. but let's get cracking. because downing get them coming in. but let's get crihaslg. because downing get them coming in. but let's get crihaslg. bithat.e downing get them coming in. but let's get crihaslg. bithat. it'siwning get them coming in. but let's get crihaslg. bithat. it's notng street has said that. it's not too for trade unions to off too late for trade unions to off strike action as the country faces of severe faces a week of severe disruption, the nhs and other pubuc disruption, the nhs and other public services today , i mean public services today, i mean this is hardly news is it? today
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driving instructors walked driving instructors have walked in over pay . later in in a dispute over pay. later in the week is once again turn of railway staff. more important . railway staff. more important. but tomorrow, wednesday will see one disruption the nhs . one such disruption to the nhs. the some would the most important, some would say prime minister, rishi say. the prime minister, rishi sunak's, defended government's approach. the approach. he said his the government's acts . government's always acts. earlier the health secretary, steve barclay, was by a mother of three year old girl with cystic fibrosis during a visit to a london hospital earlier . to a london hospital earlier. here's what she had to say. if you don't already that we have problems in the nhs before we went into the pandemic, we were short of doctors . we were short short of doctors. we were short of that going into the pandemic. so i think it's really wrong to blame it on the pandemic and actually the damage that you're doing to the families like myself is terrible . yes okay. so myself is terrible. yes okay. so she's had to say that. fair enough? she's perfectly entitled to it, of course. now, sarah paddington, old, was the lady that you just see now, and she's speaking the encounter. so speaking after the encounter. so a little bit of reaction to her
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initial comments the nhs initial comments if the nhs firefighting at the moment they're having deal with they're having to deal with the acute immediate that's acute and immediate that's coming through their door not on a whole that's very general you know but unless people my daughter with conditions that not treating them can have serious concerns and says that used to be a priority that would also be privatised and you know they're not getting through the door and unless there's lots negotiations and hard work going on so she did get through the door and so i was pleased that i was a voice, her and other members of the cystic fibrosis, fibrosis community. and i was pleased that i was able to reassure . right. just what an reassure. right. just what an incredible our nhs staff are doing because they are doing an incredible job under very tough circumstance . this is. yeah circumstance. this is. yeah i mean, i actually watched the full version of what she was saying to steve barclay not too long ago and i thought she was
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quite measured and. i think if my young daughter was there is struggling, i'd be incredibly emotional and outspoken about things i think was things and i don't think she was that that. i've spoken that emotional that. i've spoken to suppose it's to be fair, but i suppose it's bigger picture the round, bigger picture in the round, isn't one's saying isn't it? no one's saying that nurses don't do a great job, but it's whether or not we can afford to them the great afford to give them the great big pay rise need a major big pay rise that need a major party that we actually. party says that we can actually. but ministers held but this morning ministers held an meeting as an emergency cobra meeting as they respond to this they prepared to respond to this week's walk out our week's walk out now our political correspondent tom harwood the studio harwood joins me in the studio with latest this. just with the latest this. tom, just quickly talk about quickly before we talk about about and about railway about nurses and about railway workers, are workers, i believe you are learning to drive . do know learning to drive. do you know what ? just the driving what? just the driving instructions are on strike. i'm wondering whether or not that's really ruined your christmas. well, yet learning, so well, i haven't yet learning, so i know this is the ridiculous thing about about living in central metropolitan all the time. right the place i live doesn't even have spaces. so it's a bit of a way off. i know. what a way to the conversation. just on the i mean, my driving instructor was and the person
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who did my exam completely ignored the fact that i went down one way street and didn't pull over in safe area. when pull over in a safe area. when he told me to. i ask where he told me to. can i ask where you it? yeah. no, of course you did it? yeah. no, of course failed. make some calls, failed. i'll make some calls, but right on. since the strikes, what's the latest. well, this is going there is no the going ahead. there is no way the government what it government can say what it wants. they have been wants. and they have been saying, cool off last saying, please cool it off last minute. going to minute. they're not going to call going ahead. call it. it's going ahead. we are in a really bumpy are set in for a really bumpy over this week and indeed it could be it be that this stretches on into the new year as well . that's what i think the as well. that's what i think the government is focussed on. we've heard a lot about the potential legislation that may well be brought forward for minimum requirements, not just initially, as we thought on railways, but this could be to other areas as well . but there's other areas as well. but there's no way that legislation comes about this week. parliament sits today, tomorrow and then they're in recess until the 7th of january and then after that points there could be the process legislation, but it takes time . yeah, but the thing takes time. yeah, but the thing is as well, it doesn't solve the
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problem of recruitment and retention. some would retention. in fact, some would argue makes even argue that it makes it even worse. deciding that worse. nurses are deciding that they state at the they are such a state at the moment that they have to. it's also important to say that when people strike now, people look at the strike now, it it seem, though every it make it seem, though every single country has single nurse in the country has decided tools, that is decided down tools, that is simply not case. royal simply not case. the royal college nursing represents. i college of nursing represents. i think 100,000 nurses. think it's about 100,000 nurses. and the way that they calculate it, ballot it, the result of that ballot was essentially by was done essentially by district, hospital , and a district, by hospital, and not a straightforward 50 vote, more of an aggregated vote. so realistically, it's not like every single nurse wants to go on strike, but enough of them do. that's important to do. and that's important to know. just sitting there and know. but just sitting there and reducing their legal ability to strike make it any more strike doesn't make it any more any easier to the recruitment crisis, does it? no, it doesn't . and also, this is a this is a crisis that is really borne of so many different factors. we've got an ageing population. we've got an ageing population. we've got an ageing population. we've got a population that thankfully is living longer as. got a population that thankfully is living longer as . well, as is living longer as. well, as more people approaching , the age more people approaching, the age where they might require these services more, which means he's a remarkable set of
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a really remarkable set of statistics at the turn of the last decade . it's 2020 to be last decade. it's 2020 to be remarkable , 2010 to 2011. the remarkable, 2010 to 2011. the funding that the nhs received that the health service in the united kingdom received . £130.2 united kingdom received. £130.2 billion a year in 2010 alone. do you know what is this year? well, i do because i read your tweet. but carrie, our 180 points, tweet. but carrie, our 180 points , £2 billion inflation points, £2 billion inflation adjusted in real terms. that's for 80/% more money in real 40% more money going into the nhs than at the start of the last . than at the start of the last. and yet it doesn't feel like it. waiting times are up the number nurses and indeed number of doctors are up as well. but it feels like they're that much more stretched than before. and to that extent when we're looking at all of different questions of funding and much money is put into the thing , money is put into the thing, billions upon billions, tens of billions upon billions, tens of billions upon billions, tens of billions upon tens of billions pounds have been put into the nhs it's well above the oecd
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average health systems funding now. and that wasn't always the case in the past, but it certainly now so we have to certainly now and so we have to really start looking at the question how is this money being, for example, where it being, for example, where it being spent? this is the thing. and now we know we things like the charity commission are the charity commission and are looking different looking into various different things do look into things crossed they do look into this space is but i want to this the space is but i want to take us down that rabbit hole but look at them, but when you look at them, you know, actually really need know, do we actually really need no more analysis for to no more analysis easy for me to say of where this money say of exactly where this money is because when you look is going because when you look at 39% 40% real terms at it a 39% 40% real terms funding increase the nhs and then nurses have had a couple of pay then nurses have had a couple of pay rise a couple of years. i pay rise in a couple of years. i get that. i know one area like with inflation, but oh salary unfortunately opinion. so unfortunately in my opinion. so i've recently. now i've seen real recently. now though there are a lot of people hiding nhs knowing that hiding in the nhs knowing that they're money they're spending this money poorly it's been blamed on poorly and it's been blamed on the . well, it's the government. well, it's fascinating because sometimes some the least sort of public sellable things are of the
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things that may well fix it. now i could very easily sit here and say there are too many middle managers, the nhs directive, a live taxpayer princess. but to extent some people argue that it's precisely the opposite . you it's precisely the opposite. you couldn't run, for example , couldn't run, for example, supermarket without managers telling where they go, right? okay if you have an nhs that is overreliant on lots of and lots of doctors but no one telling them where their best suited to go.then them where their best suited to go. then you have the boards, you have doctors in forms rather than dealing with patients. so perhaps you do need some more backroom staff. another thing, since the capital budget since 2014, the capital budget of the nhs, this is investments in machinery and stuff that's been raided to fund extra nursing , he says. now that nursing, he says. now that doesn't make much if these nurses don't have the equipment that would their jobs that would make their jobs eafien that would make their jobs easier. lots different easier. there's lots different things way run things about the way it's run and that ties into and so often that ties into electoral side of things. the politicising of this organisation. yeah, obviously what we're to buckle tom, what we're to buckle up tom, thank you much. by the way, thank you very much. by the way, there political but
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there are political reports, but we're about to buckle up tomorrow get another nurses. tomorrow to get another nurses. i of this is i don't know if any of this is affected. you anyway. around 60,000 routine and 60,000 routine operations and appointments were cancelled dunng appointments were cancelled during the first one on the 15th of december. hard to. keep of december. it's hard to. keep up i suspect up business. i suspect the. bigger maybe the bigger one and maybe the more emotive going to emotive actually is not going to be the nurses going to be be about the nurses going to be about ambulance workers. so about the ambulance workers. so you up obviously you end up with obviously paramedic okay. call paramedic. yes. okay. but call handlers, etc. that i believe someone once told me that i believe is i think it's on the coast on wednesdays and say it's hard for me to keep up. sorry, on wednesday. that one. i don't think that was going to be even tncky think that was going to be even tricky because i think that's a direct one. if you're already in hospital and you the hospital and you think the quality victories may be already slightly that slightly on the turn, that is one thing. terrible, but one thing. it's terrible, but thatis one thing. it's terrible, but that is thing. but if you that is one thing. but if you are urgent agony and need or a relative yours, just relative of yours, they've just fallen and you fallen down the stairs and you can't fallen down the stairs and you cant an fallen down the stairs and you can't an ambulance. think can't get an ambulance. i think that's to more of an that's going to have more of an impact that we go gb news impact anyway that we go gb news gbnews.uk the gbnews.uk return to the but right. going to tackle a big right. i'm going to tackle a big topic, a big story that i know a lot of you care deeply around.
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people have been sitting people like me have been sitting here interviewing loads of people. been saying, here interviewing loads of peothis been saying, here interviewing loads of peothis one, been saying, here interviewing loads of peothis one, this been saying, here interviewing loads of peothis one, this game| saying, here interviewing loads of peothis one, this game isaying, oh, this one, this game is unlawful, it's illegal. well, have of that it's have a bit of that because it's not unlawful. about not unlawful. it's all about sounds of the home sounds of anyway, the home secretary saw the problem and says that committed to says that she is committed to making send making this plan to send migrants work. and it migrants to rwanda work. and it is the court ruled. is after the high court ruled. hey that the policy is indeed lawful it's all the lawful now. it's just all the practical implications. so we need ahead, sir. but the need to go ahead, sir. but the controversial has been labelled unworkable by shadow home secretary it secretary yvette cooper. it wasn't not wasn't lawful. now it's not unlawful. unworkable. unlawful. it's unworkable. anyway, that it was anyway, she claimed that it was unethical expected expensive. she's expected to speak very shortly in, the speak to mp very shortly in, the house of commons. we'll bring you over hour you that live just over an hour ago see that to the high ago you see that to the high court's ruling claiming. a court's ruling claiming. it's a common decision. well common sense decision. well welcome the decision of the court today . we've always court today. we've always maintained rwanda maintained that all rwanda policy is lawful , pleased that policy is lawful, pleased that was confirmed today. and this is just one part of our plan to tackle illegal migration . last tackle illegal migration. last week i set out a very approach to stopping the boats from coming to the uk. it's not going
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to be easy. we're not going to able to do it. but i'm confident with the steps i laid out last, we really can get to grips with illegal migration because i think what we all to see and what i want to deliver is a system whereby if you come to the illegally , you will not the uk illegally, you will not have the right to stay and we will able to return you to will be able to return you to own country if it's safe or a safe alternative like rwanda . safe alternative like rwanda. that's a sense position. that's a common sense position. i of the majority of i think of the vast majority of the public. it's the british public. it's position what i want the british public. it's po deliver what i want the british public. it's po deliver as what i want the british public. it's po deliver as prime what i want the british public. it's po deliver as prime ministerant the british public. it's po deliver as prime minister .1t to deliver as prime minister. yes. well, let's talk about this now, because the chair of migration watch uk joins me live in the studio thank you very, very much. the biggest question marks now about it being well they call me unlawful anymore . they call me unlawful anymore. it's being unethical it's about it being unethical and it too and it's about it being too expensive . your reaction to expensive. your reaction to those questions and the points the rest of us just made a nonsense, right? why why is this somehow a unethical to send people to a safe country, give them that fleeing war and give them that fleeing war and give them money in their pockets and
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help them on their way? it's a safe country and indeed has been taking thousands and thousands of others with the of the united nafions of others with the of the united nations high commissioner for refugees . so it's not something refugees. so it's not something out of the ordinary. and i think that the sooner the government in light of this decision today from the high court, the sooner the government gets going and revives the rwanda scheme, the better . yes, is there a slight better. yes, is there a slight which is that not that many people are going to be able to be sent to rwanda. now my thing with this is we have the tragic deaths of the migrants in the channel earlier on last week, we had one about a year ago as well and the possibility drowning in freezing cold waters in the busiest shipping line in the world is not enough of a deterrent clearly to stop people taking this journey. why would the possibility some of you might be sent rwanda ? well, might be sent to rwanda? well, i've said i've said to you,
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actually, patrick, i recall saying that rwanda was not the final wand. it isn't it's got to be part of the solution, though. and what is new, what we've just heard richie sunak say and that heard richie sunak say and that he has said that he's committed actually committed to dealing with this issue that's new and that's different and when boris johnson said in 2019, yes, if you arrive here illegally, you will be sent back, it didn't mean it, and not only that. but every time patel did something, bofis every time patel did something, boris johnson, frankly, was nowhere be seen for a final leaf for now, anyway number ten seems to be committed and that's it. and i suppose i suppose you could say as well. this paves the way for other schemes to be definitely lawful as. well, so we up with these we don't end up with these ridiculous protracted issues where things have been dragged through say
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through the courts. so let's say we up deal with another we struck up a deal with another country that was on a par with rwanda. then there will be next to with all these to no point with all these leftie trying to it leftie lawyers trying to drag it through the courts because it would already be deemed in principle lawful can principle to be lawful so we can crack on. rishi soon has got crack on. but rishi soon has got to asylum by to clear this asylum by basically next. basically this time next. otherwise, view he's out otherwise, in my view he's out of a job because said he do of a job because he said he do it. will this go some way it. okay, will this go some way to actually doing that because that's a lot of i don't that's a lot of planes i don't think makes blindness a bit think it makes blindness a bit of difference whether of difference frankly whether the rwanda scheme is revived or to whether that happens and we get the queue the backlog down. my get the queue the backlog down. my feeling is that that is a bit of a red herring, frankly. of course, we've got to deal with them quickly. and that is part them quickly. and that is part the deal. i think that deal with those people who are coming here illegally. quickly and then act that isn't happening. no. with regard to the 100 and 3040 thousand who are in the queue
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who are in the backlog frankly, it take as long as it needs to take in order to do it properly. i'm not in favour of a box ticking exercise simply because they've asked for asylum and they've asked for asylum and they've been waiting for a long thing. just say, okay, you can stay . which was very, very last stay. which was very, very last and very, very quickly. you think now though, that genuinely this government actually this government does actually really want to get this sorted because a long time i think they've been just moving the deck titanic . oh, we're deck on the titanic. oh, we're going use hotels. we're going to use hotels. oh, we're to get the amounts and to get clear the amounts and we're going to put them in houday we're going to put them in holiday camps. and just pay holiday camps. our and just pay lip to of lip service to the idea of conservative party actually gives down on gives to hosts cracking down on illegal no actually illegal immigration. no actually think i do think think that's changed. i do think that's change. the main reason is that an is only two years. well it'd be nice if i do actually believe rishi sunak when . he says he's committed to when. he says he's committed to deaung when. he says he's committed to dealing with this and suella braverman is also a different kettle of as well. but all in all things have changed. it's
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the solution. well yeah, we'll have to wait. well and then they can maybe crack on and deal with net migration. but then we go front. that's even more important. i'll come important. patrick but i'll come back you will. you back another than you will. you will? absolutely 100. and i can't enough you. thank can't get enough of you. thank you very much. out of the who is the of migration watch uk reacting that news we're reacting to that news and we're going be hopefully hearing going to be hopefully hearing suella presumably suella braverman and presumably our if keep our counterparts as well if keep alive this show . as i said it alive on this show. as i said it was supposed to be about half an hour ago, you know. oh well they delayed means that we delayed it. so it means that we the gold. so we'll be hearing from them a little bit later in the live in the house of the show, live in the house of they toe to toe on the fact they go toe to toe on the fact that rwanda is legal people that now rwanda is legal people right. comes as the right. but the news comes as the skipper the boat, which skipper of the boat, which helped rescue dozens migrants on the channel last week, helped rescue dozens migrants on the angrily channel last week, helped rescue dozens migrants on the angrily hitannel last week, helped rescue dozens migrants on the angrily hit outel last week, helped rescue dozens migrants on the angrily hit out at ast week, helped rescue dozens migrants on the angrily hit out at uk week, has angrily hit out at uk immigration for making immigration policy for making tragedy anyway tragedy and his views anyway inevitable. in his first inevitable. though in his first full that full interview since that tragedy told tragedy roman struck and told gb news british authorities news that british authorities have been acting as a migrant taxi encouraging increasing taxi encouraging ever increasing numbers of people to make the journey we've been saying longer
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emails and it's the time gbviews@gbnews.uk uk which is as long as we're essentially running an service for running an uber service for illegal immigrants , they will illegal immigrants, they will keep and enforcing . that keep coming and enforcing. that makes likely that people makes it more likely that people die. can all imagine die. what we can all imagine must in the must a horrible death in the channel but i'm in security and it's a mile as obtain it's a mile wide as also obtain more exclusive images of wednesday's rescue operation . wednesday's rescue operation. look at warning. clearly look at the warning. clearly this contain things that you would find difficult to watch but all grown ups here. but we're all grown ups here. let's . out in the pitch black of let's. out in the pitch black of the english channel the sound of panicked cries for help from the six man crew of the scallop boat. arcturus rushed to help as they come alongside the stricken migrant boat. they come alongside the stricken migrant boat . you remember. how migrant boat. you remember. how these images are deeply disturbing, but they highlight the very real dangers for these vessels and quick thinking and bravery . local fisherman turned bravery. local fisherman turned rescuer why . we wasn't there
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rescuer why. we wasn't there filming 45 people dead without any fish nobody's going to be safe. i looked over the five or six migrants off the safety for remains . it six migrants off the safety for remains. it was their training and instinct to help that kicked in. it's not easy. first of all a panic in the food court when the other a dinghy seen it was getting rescued the swim towards the boat there was raymond says huge relief when the lifeboats and coastguard helicopters reached scene . no longer allowed . reached scene. no longer allowed. th views. the places where you see people live or even show when
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begging for their life. if you can take a bus, that's all its human nature thing to do as rescue people . and that's what rescue people. and that's what we get on board. the tourists . we get on board. the tourists. although these survivors were rescue , they were clearly rescue, they were clearly hypothermic . the scallop boats hypothermic. the scallop boats crew got them out of their wet clothes and into warm showers before giving them their dry and some hot food . outside the fire some hot food. outside the fire rescue boat from the royal navy's offshore patrol vessel, hms severn and joined in the search for other survivors as on board the fishing boat . medics board the fishing boat. medics checked over those rescue food, searching . room struck and said searching. room struck and said the events of wednesday morning were inevitable . like all local were inevitable. like all local fishing crews , they regularly fishing crews, they regularly see migrant boats and often
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enough to help . out. like here enough to help. out. like here in january , when the tourists in january, when the tourists had to stand alongside two inflatable balls near dungeon s while they waited for uk authorities to arrive on. scene and that same month , this and that same month, this astonishing sight of five young men crammed in a tiny inflatable across the channel without an on board motor and not a single life jacket. among them, a scene five successful crossings last . five successful crossings last. the uk government said look at sea patrol boats out to stop the crossings. well, see the boats. they want to see them . i talked they want to see them. i talked to seven separate, although saw tragedy in the channel raymond says it won't act as a deterrent to these crossings. he and his crew expect see many more migrant boats out here in the months ahead . mark white gb news
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months ahead. mark white gb news is that. yes. well, there we go . that was a little hark back to the tragedy of last week, two days up day. i'm going to be getting a statement. the parliament in the commons supposedly minute, but we'll have to wait see about the have to wait and see about the true underpinning is law true underpinning is now law for but like stuart lot of you are but like stuart a lot of you are annoyed gbviews@gbnews.uk. look, why we wasting on this? why are we wasting time on this? says the end of the day says look at the end of the day it's the taxpayer for the it's still the taxpayer for the and say yeah our share but and say yeah i've our share but once they what we once they are here what we supposed to with them because once they are here what we still;ed to with them because once they are here what we still be to with them because once they are here what we still be the with them because once they are here what we still be the taxpayeriem because once they are here what we still be the taxpayer paying ause it will be the taxpayer paying for if they stay for them forever if they stay here, i suppose will be the argument to the look when we come rishi has come back, rishi sunak has allies trip to baltic sea allies on a trip to baltic sea to stand firm support for ukraine. wondering, the ukraine. i'm wondering, with the cost crisis going cost of living crisis going on, whether more you are whether or not more of you are feeling we've done enough for ukraine, where is of this ukraine, where is all of this money sure it's going money going? i'm sure it's going to the places, don't get to the wrong places, don't get me wrong. but now do you feel skin to the never and actually decent come home? decent money should come home? i don't do you think? don't know. what do you think? get coming did get emails coming in on did jeremy clarkson too far when he basically fantasises basically said he fantasises about stripped
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about markle being stripped naked and having excrement chucked out in streets? it was a reference to game of thrones. it was about impossible. happen was about impossible. i happen to quite funny, but to think it was quite funny, but a actually are a lot of people actually are very about this. we're very angry about this. we're going to talk about free speech. i'll be back in a sec.
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speaking of the stars of bilateral talks in riga soon on the latvian prime minister to have a group of partners and allies who think so alike on the easing of ? the importance of easing of? the importance of questions about collective security and then are backing up those action when it those sentiments action when it comes supporting ukraine comes to supporting ukraine i think is very heartening. so there you go. global britain rich you see now our own man in riga. how we to prop up ukraine even more but it's not the only thing commented as well. thing you commented on as well. we talking our we will be talking about our region, but also got a crack region, but you also got a crack back gary which you back at gary neville, which you love to see. so deal with both of those issues. now with our very correspondent very own political correspondent olivia in olivia utley joins me live in the let's deal the studio. olivia let's deal with some would argue is with what some would argue is the most important thing, the constant of your fine. constant military of your fine. i gary neville. whatever i prefer gary neville. whatever oh, what's doing abroad than oh, what's he doing abroad than spending money. yes. spending more of our money. yes. so meeting these leaders from the baltic states , he's showing the baltic states, he's showing himself to be the leader on this war in ukraine. behind the scenes, things might not be
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quite as they look . there was a quite as they look. there was a very interesting report, i think was bbc actually reporting that rishi sunak being a lot more cautious with support for ukraine than boris johnson was , ukraine than boris johnson was, and he's requested a goldman sachs style dashboard on how our money is being used in ukraine. oh yeah, very interesting. why is it conscious? i'm sorry is a goldman sachs style dashboard . goldman sachs style dashboard. well i haven't seen a photo but i was imagining something like you know how we doing what the schatzker graph dials that look important okay so looking forward to impressive and he wants to be constantly monitoring what we use how money is being how our money and how our missiles being used in ukraine to check we're getting value for money and apparently are some serious top level are some quite serious top level splits on this because there are some cabinet ministers who would rather go down the sort of boris johnson approach and just be big bold, magnanimous, generous and show that we are the leaders here. so rishi sunak now in riga
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being oh i'm well yeah this is interesting because i do think that that's possibly a good move from rishi. i think the support that britain has given to ukraine, no one anywhere in the world can possibly question that. whilst a lot of our friends are scratching their heads or sending rainbow coloured helmets or whatever , we coloured helmets or whatever, we were actually involved in the thick of it, sending over proper defence and now i think that people are sort hating on can't afford to maybe serious question marks as to whether or not even more stuff just a blank check approach to ukraine is the right thing so maybe it's good optics from from rishi sunak's yes. we have spent rather lot of money, haven't we? i'm being told i can now as we've passed enough time about now ask you about ukraine. i can now ask you about ukraine. i can now ask you about neville. so going piped up didn't say when it came to his demand for, workers rights, etc. use platform on the television as a football pundit to launch a political advertising campaign. but rishi sunak's hit back, hasn't he? yes, he says he should stick to the football
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punditry and not get into politics, which i think will be a sentiment that'll be quite popular , echoed among a large of popular, echoed among a large of the population who do get a bit of these sporting figures piping up with their eyes on every political matter. it's quite a good way for rishi sunak , he's good way for rishi sunak, he's sometimes has a reputation of not being that sort of down with the people getting into a row about gary neville. yeah, just the sort of thing he needs to be doing, all kind of thing. doing, all this kind of thing. so a way. yes. and look, listen to what gary neville said. he's not only ever said not the only time ever said things like and he has things like that. and he has literally nailed this colours to the mast. the labour party the mast. i was the labour party conference. gary up. conference. oh, gary rocks up. they didn't really to they didn't really seem to mingle people. of mingle with the people. of course but they go like a lot of millionaire why would course but they go like a lot of minant ire why would course but they go like a lot of minant to? why would course but they go like a lot of minant to? and why would course but they go like a lot of minant to? and why woitd course but they go like a lot of minant to? and why woit was he want to? and i thought it was interesting he's talking interesting that he's talking about workers rights and linking very tenuously workers very tenuously linking workers rights dozens of people rights in qatar dozens of people have died building stadiums in the desert. more than dozens . the desert. more than dozens. yeah. to nurses over here in the
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way that we're treason, despite the fact that the labour party who he's a member of and he's mates with of course the leader keir starmer have said that they there's no way they could meet there's no way they could meet the pay demands me the nurses pay demands either me do that gary neville do you think that gary neville needs bh do you think that gary neville needs bit careful what needs to be a bit careful what you is for when it comes you wish is for when it comes policy. i mean he was absolutely to shreds on embargo his to shreds on embargo on his view. yes was a it was a very view. yes it was a it was a very very cheap shot really. and as you say, member of the you say, he's member of the labour the labour party labour party. the labour party is pretty cautious. yeah, is being pretty cautious. yeah, joe, jonathan ashworth this morning get round morning saying that he get round the to talk the the table and to talk to the nurses notice wasn't actually nurses notice he wasn't actually saying , yes, would agree, of saying, yes, we would agree, of course, that he was saying course, to that he was saying that scrapping non—dom, that's labour's language , labour's favourite language, would difference . would make a huge difference. but he wasn't actually saying to his to would he his degree to that, would he actually on that what he actually just on that what he actually just on that what he actually huge difference actually a huge difference because a bit because you're saying it's a bit ambitious isn't to that ambitious isn't it to say that the billion that he the few billion pounds that he get status actually get from non—dom status actually yes. you believe that yes. even if you believe that it's absolute maximum they it's the absolute maximum they get from us is around three and a half billion, is a half billion, which is actually kind of a drop in the
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ocean to rise that ocean compared to pay rise that nurses for over the nurses are asking for over the actual over medium term not actual over the medium term not in term. the other in the short term. the other problem is it has been problem with that is it has been previous by other labour, previous times by other labour, right. were talking about right. people were talking about scrapping non—dom status and gordon day and he's never actually over the line because proved to be quite popular and actually doesn't raise quite as as they think so it's certainly not sort of silver bullet not a sort of silver bullet solution. to solution. it's not going to solve problem one fell solve the problem one fell swoop. so yeah. gary neville well it's easy for him as well. the thing is it is easy for him cause he's just sitting there. he's got roy keane next to him and with best way in the world, you know, roy keane is very much there about the football and so because that's his job and they love someone next to is love someone else next to him is probably, just about probably, you know, just about learning offside rule or so learning the offside rule or so the a very, the present is that's a very, very awkward gary neville very awkward lay. gary neville just banker, some just a woman banker, lord some kind of party political broadcast know it broadcast we know to it whatsoever. second he whatsoever. but the second he actually in with actually gets thrown in with journalists else journalists so with anyone else like on have i got news like you did on have i got news for they rip him up whole anyway
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they got that's my view on it thank you very much olivia olivia utley the whole political correspondent olivia utley the whole political corresjveryant olivia utley the whole political corresjvery ant stuff, about very important stuff, ukraine it into ukraine and then drag it into the with me discuss the gutter with me to discuss gary neville. you all gary neville. anyway you all remain christys on gb remain patrick christys on gb news up we wish you news on coming up we wish you a merry strike. yes. is mass industrial action continues in the the big day the run up to the big day there's loads of strikes going on very latest round is on the very latest round is tomorrow with nurses out on wednesday. will wednesday. ambulance will follow. ambulance follow. i suspect ambulance staff lot more staff was going to be a lot more emotive. the strike. why? emotive. the nurses strike. why? because we're going end because i think we're going end up audio recordings of up getting audio recordings of phone from phone calls desperately from people get an people trying to get an ambulance that ambulance being told that there aren't that will aren't enough. and that will hammer more than the hammer home a lot more than the people maybe in hospital people maybe already in hospital with nurses shortage. with a bit of a nurses shortage. anyway, are reports anyway, there are reports that elderly patients who all fit to be sent home could now christmas in hospital because striking in hospital because of striking workers that fair? no, i workers is that fair? no, i don't think so. i'm jeremy clarkson has faced a backlash for comments that he made about the of with his own the duchess of with his own daughter even speaking out against him although be fair i think this is the daughter that he massively threw under the bus
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in one of books earlier on. in one of his books earlier on. he something i think he said something i think a little bit about her little bit fruity about her weight, is a is weight, which is a father is a little bit mean jeremy, if you ask but this afternoon he's ask me. but this afternoon he's claimed more careful in claimed to be more careful in future. what does for future. what does he mean for free speech? personally, i read the column. i thought was tremendous was it tremendous value. it was me, it was nasty. i thought it was was nasty. but i thought it was funny that's i took it. funny and that's why i took it. i read it. closed the top. i i read it. i closed the top. i moved on. did call for it moved on. i did not call for it to be cancelled but that i'll be back a moment.
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okay. back to the strike action now. and we are set to. see this week out of christmas. on christmas a lot of nhs saying the nhs is facing getting incredibly challenging and disrupted weeks suffering. courtney has urged the government and unions come to an agreement on. she said that the nurses strike tuesday. i went by
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ambulance workers on wednesday would have a huge on patients obviously of course it would if it didn't you would question what they're all doing begin with wouldn't but the with wouldn't you but the warnings to justified warnings seem to justified too if in the telegraph if reports in the telegraph today actually transpire. they are from a senior nhs are saying from a senior nhs source, by the way , that elderly source, by the way, that elderly patients who are to be sent home could be stuck hospital over christmas. now we're talking about operations being cancelled to operations have had a lot of people get touch actually today one particular chap in the inbox so he's been waiting yonks and up months and months and months to some boundaries replaced to have some boundaries replaced or around whatever it or dragged around whatever it is. and now that's been cancelled about cancelled again, we talk about it nurses down but it in nurses down way, but actually again, maybe we actually yet again, maybe we forget about the elderly too much got to wonder, with much and you got to wonder, with a load people there, a load of old people there, i say if they were from care homes or, living who maybe or, assisted living who maybe were way a last were shuttered way for a last couple of christmases now they could been could be free that they've been in now the fit to in hospital and now the fit to go they be taken go and they can't be taken apparently anyway because of these nhs walkouts maybe these nhs walkouts but maybe that's are for. but that's what taxis are for. but you heard that right elderly .
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you heard that right elderly. patients fit to be in patients who are fit to be in their own homes this christmas could be stopped from spending the time year the most wonderful time year with their families because staff over their staff are striking over their pay, staff are striking over their pay, health incentive . as editor pay, health incentive. as editor at the sunday express, lucy johnson joins me now. lucy, lots let's let's focus on the elderly initially why would they not able to leave hospital. look just forgive me for playing devil's advocate here but like a son or daughter come and them up you know well they're not able to leave hospital because they have most of them a lot of them are very unwell they've got dementia or they're disabled they don't a package of care that's safe for them to go to in the community and this is not a problem that's happening now up to a third of patients in hospital are fit for discharge. but they can't leave because there's nowhere for them to go. that's deemed safe. and that's actually risen over the past or so by about % so the problem has
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so by about% so the problem has become even worse and it just by not to many gone. sorry, lucy but as you know by now i'm bit thick and i need things explained to me a few times. so did i hear you right? a third of patients in hospitals could go, but they haven't got anywhere to go. that like it's like go. that seems like it's like the is like a care home. the old nhs is like a care home. well, it's up to a third in certain hospitals . so some certain hospitals. so some hospitals less, some more . but hospitals less, some more. but that's the sort of top figure . that's the sort of top figure. yes, it is. tens of thousands of patients and it has got worse. and you know the staying in hospital is actually really debt mental to an older person . we mental to an older person. we know that you lose about 5% of body muscle of muscle for every day , spend immobile hospitals day, spend immobile hospitals obviously aren't places for they are places where you either next to your bed or lie in your your heart is affected . your lungs heart is affected. your lungs are affected. the whole body is affected. you're more at risk
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from infections. you're less likely to ever be independent again. if you were independent first. exactly. do you not can sleep quickly? do you know think is an added layer of utter lunacy to all of this? lucy is that the elderly are probably the people been paying into the nhs and paying their taxes longer than ever anybody else and they up maybe one and then they end up maybe one time they actually need it time that they actually need it may poor old may be, you know, poor old dorothy from number 42 as a clean bill of health she's in a mid eighties, tripped and mid eighties, she tripped and falls stairs, breaks if falls down the stairs, breaks if she the nhs wants. one she needs the nhs wants. one time in our life she's been paying time in our life she's been paying is she going to be paying into is she going to be able get an ambulance on? able to get an ambulance on? talk that. i feel talk to me about that. i feel like i've done nurses shot to death and we kind of know where we on because the we stand on that because the government going to government are going to really get negotiations with get back into negotiations with the major political the ni. the major political party saying 19.2% pay rise party is saying 19.2% pay rise is where are with is we kind of get where are with that with the ambulance that but with the ambulance drugs like the drugs it's kind of like the fresh one and that's going to take place wednesday. how much of not going to have of an impact not going to have more nurses do think ?
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more than the nurses do think? well, it's horrendous . and i well, it's horrendous. and i actually got a just been in touch with a paramedic now who that all the time they are saying arrive at hospital either the one just came through today i just got a message from a paramedic a son was cradling his dead father who had died en to hospital because he couldn't get through to 999. they've given up waiting. we know that half of one on one calls are now being abandoned. the system has crashed . people are about i the crashed. people are about i the royal college of emergency medicine says about 500 patients die every week because of collapse of emergency system. so we're already losing people with the ambulance strike . it is the ambulance strike. it is going to be i notice you said earlier, you know, we're going to hear these calls and they're now . yeah, i think so . and i now. yeah, i think so. and i actually think that the nurses should really be the nurses union. by the way, i don't want to demonise nurses at all. right. and i've kind of made
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that mistake in the past with my language. don't want fall language. i don't want to fall down that rabbit out again because people really let me know on twitter. know about on twitter. but i think comes to the think when it comes to the ambulance there's going ambulance workers, there's going to a graft because to be a lot more graft because there be more there either there will be more there either or definition could in or by definition could argue in need bangor care. right. need of like bangor care. right. and they it and it ends and if they can't it and it ends up i we're going to notice it more we're going to notice the ambulance drivers off ambulance drivers being off more. i'm not calling more. and then i'm not calling does because. i think it does more because. i think it will result short term will result in the short term being more deaths than someone who's or who's a chemo delayed or something as something like that. but as awful of those things awful as both of those things are, the way, thank you are, by the way, lucy, thank you very, much . i'm are, by the way, lucy, thank you very, much. i'm no are, by the way, lucy, thank you very, much . i'm no doubt very, very much. i'm no doubt we'll talking you again in we'll be talking to you again in the next couple of days as we pick through the bones, the of a better phrase what these better phrase of what these drugs really mean. that was health social affairs editor health and social affairs editor sunday johnson. sunday express, lucy johnson. right people, right keep it moving, people, because said because jeremy clarkson said that horrified to have that he is horrified to have caused so much her. yeah after he was criticised for comments caused so much her. yeah after he made 'iticised for comments caused so much her. yeah after he made to :ised for comments caused so much her. yeah after he made to aed for comments caused so much her. yeah after he made to a newspapernents caused so much her. yeah after he made to a newspaper column about duchess about how he hated the duchess of the former gear of sussex, the former top gear presenter would be more presenter said he would be more careful in future for the peace
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in his son attracted widespread condemnation own condemnation from his own daughter ryan . so his own daughter ryan. so his own daughter ryan. so his own daughter is just throwing him under bus in the clarkson under the bus in the clarkson wrote he dreamed of meghan wrote that he dreamed of meghan being british being paraded through british and publicly shamed , adding that and publicly shamed, adding that everyone is my thinks the same way . the independent press way. the independent press standards organisation said it received 6000 complaints. but is this just a case where free speech goes too far ? i am joined speech goes too far? i am joined now by the former editor of the sun, an added layer of relevance when it comes to this is kevin mackenzie and journalist and broadcaster some dowler. mackenzie and journalist and broadcaster some dowler . kevin, broadcaster some dowler. kevin, what was that about what jeremy clarkson said really ? i think clarkson said really? i think the problem that if you like clark and you like his schtick , clark and you like his schtick, you know that that is not a serious idea . parading anybody serious idea. parading anybody naked, nor is it serious to throw loads of excrement data. all it shows that he couldn't stand or in. he made it clear
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that he disliked even more than he disliked disliked rosie west and or or the leader in scotland , which i, by the way, agree with him about. but so as far as if you don't like clarkson's don't read it in the sun and don't read it in the sun and don't read it in the sunday times . well this is about all times. well this is about all he's vile about almost. now, times. well this is about all he's vile about almost . now, the he's vile about almost. now, the thing we about his own daughter going as far as i'm all about somehow i'll just oversee you. look, you know, i mean. it's interesting, isn't it? we've had a lot of left wing commentators saying, things about like people who brexit need to or who voted brexit need to die or , elderly relatives you , you know elderly relatives you should elderly relatives if should kill elderly relatives if they for brexit. so a they voted for brexit. so a little bit less attention to. jeremy clarkson a joke jeremy clarkson makes a joke about of thrones and he needs to be cancelled . well i mean jeremy be cancelled. well i mean jeremy clarkson that's done that rare thing of you people who don't like and people who do like meghan , which is incredible.
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meghan, which is incredible. he's gone obviously over to free for them to see in that game of thrones i don't know if you've watched it is to with you know degradation violence humiliation and i know obviously it's very tongue in cheek. it is jeremy but then saying that but then but then saying that hated on a cellular level . hated her on a cellular level. as your just said, like as your guest just said, like more more west or more more than rose west or nicholas sturgeon i mean, you know, there's violence , know, there's a violence, misogyny about that whether misogyny about it. that whether you like jeremy clarkson or his today normally that just doesn't wash. and also have to say like it really throws the queen consort the boss who hosts him on wednesday i was last week for this for this meal i mean it doesn't go unnoticed that she hosted piers morgan and jeremy clarkson who then comes out with this schtick on on friday in the sun and it plays into exactly what harry and meghan have always said. oh would . well yeah always said. oh would. well yeah i would already run. ba ba ba ba . i would argue kelvin. jeremy clarkson is been .honest about
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how we fell. okay yes. all right. some of it was tasteful . right. some of it was tasteful. and i do get that. i personally it and thought it was absolutely hilarious and i stand by that. but you it's not written about me but kelvin at least he's provided some kind evidence for it. so and that's it. i mean, meghan markle can go on oprah or go on netflix and a lot of baseless claims that can ruin people's lives. and she just gets paid millions for and gets paid millions for it. and she. yes i mean, the thing is that the other aspect i don't like about this is this is some suggestion there's racism involved in it. suggestion there's racism involved in it . honestly, if you involved in it. honestly, if you if you a look at it, i would have thought that no, not that particular item . but if you particular item. but if you looked at the royals generally , looked at the royals generally, harry, painted as stupid, harry, being painted as stupid, fake malingering kind of guy on the state payroll, he's not on the state payroll, he's not on the state payroll anymore. he certainly was then. actually is far more damaging than anything that, meghan has ever said. meghan a glamorous woman who actually taken to the i thought
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of the uk people and it worked out but as far as clarkson is concerned i know about overstepping the mark or being blamed for overstepping the mark. i mean i got fired from the sun for writing mccullough saying that ross barkley who of and chelsea and now basically not even in charlton reserves i might add. right. i had to was sick and that and i didn't i didn't know that he had a nigerian grandfather by the way. nobody knew nobody at chelsea knew. i don't even know how many everton knew, by the way, interview william with paul . interview william with paul. another load of tom harwood all over. another load of tom harwood all over . but that that's that's the over. but that that's that's the way free speech kind of work what's coming to it. there are two aspects that come into it . two aspects that come into it. misogyny has become the word of the moment. okay and i absolutely take take against . i absolutely take take against. i do not believe that my column is misogynist . they do write about
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misogynist. they do write about it. oh i got to welcome bill along would write about about men i mean it it is preposterous but it's a kind of it's a kind liberal thought process and i think it's very tough for columnist to write in in you can write what you like on on social media i mean if the tableau that i get poured on me honestly by kelvin going to put some shirts up but i mean it because i need to go over to sam. all right. thank you very much. stuff some some look i got the i got the i get this is playing meghan and harry's hands okay should the anger if there is any be directed at the commissioning editor of the sun for writing this so that is it and not jeremy clarkson. because i'm telling all a load of people read the article and they think i exactly the same way . i i feel exactly the same way. i mean, must mean i know mean, they must mean i know people the sun to win on the sun i mean there must you know people would have got this would have gone through numerous pairs of victoria a niece of eyes maybe victoria a niece and herself before it went actually so i mean, of
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actually out. so i mean, of course , but as just said, this course, but as i just said, this plays the narrative that the other the british press are against them because . like this against them because. like this is of course, this is one man's opinion. but what he said is really vile and it just and it just basically threatening to do to back in and that's what and that's what and that is what they they said it is the case and that we call so that people i mean whether you support meghan and harry or not like this it looks like exactly what they that documentary they said in that documentary merely week they're merely last week and they're correct . so i think one of the correct. so i think one of the biggest problems for this is meghan. they've still they still won this battle. thanks thanks to him. okay all right, look, both of you, thank you very much . i'm afraid we're going to have to knock it on the head, but thoroughly enjoy both of your company. that is former editor of sun, mackenzie and of the sun, kelvin mackenzie and journalist broadcaster sam journalist and broadcaster sam dowler. honest dowler. i've got to be honest with just don't think with you. i just don't think there be any apology in there should be any apology in this kind of stuff. prince thing and stand by it. don't just row
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back it. and i think it was back on it. and i think it was obviously a joke about of obviously a joke about game of thrones. was thrones. very much doubt it was going to incite anyone to strip meghan naked and meghan markle naked and throw a tabloid of do over. but there tabloid of do do over. but there we go. coming there's loads we go. coming up, there's loads more .
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on yeah. welcome back, everybody. this is patrick christys right here on gb news. and i've got absolutely loads coming your way between now and 6 pm. because the government has welcomed the high court's decision that rwanda migrant scheme is lawful . you go anyway. the prime minister said a little earlier that committed the that they were committed to the plan running a system plan and to running a system whereby you to the uk whereby if you to the uk illegally you not have the right to stay and won't be able to return to own country it's return to own country if it's safe as an alternative to
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rwanda, there's loads more coming. your way on that and much, much more. but believe we're going to get the latest from polly with your lawyers . from polly with your lawyers. you are gb news the latest news headunes you are gb news the latest news headlines this hour. and our top story this is in fact, some breaking news that's coming to us within the last few minutes. a 23 year old woman, gabriel hutchinson , has become the hutchinson, has become the second woman to die following a crowd crash outside . the o2 crowd crash outside. the o2 academy in brixton last week. so a third individual has died. the metropolitan police is in a statement saying she was working as part of the security team at, the venue at the time, the force also said three women who were critically injured were all in the foyer of the building at the time of the crash. a third woman , aged 21, remains in a critical in hospital so that news just coming to us within the last
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minutes here at gb news well, as you were just then from patrick, the other that is in our headunes the other that is in our headlines today is the prime minister has welcomed high court's ruling that government's rwanda plan is lawful saying he very pleased with the decision . very pleased with the decision. the royal courts of justice has said the planned policy to send seekers who come to the uk illegally to rwanda to claim asylum is consistent with the international refugee convention . the government has faced legal challenges which have prevented any flights taking off and charities have vowed to appeal on decision, claiming the east african nation lacks a fair , african nation lacks a fair, efficient asylum system . but efficient asylum system. but rishi sunak says the rwanda plan is just one part of tackling illegal migration . what we all illegal migration. what we all want to see and what i to deliver is a system whereby if you come to the uk illegally, you come to the uk illegally, you will not have right to stay and we will be able return you
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to your own country . it's safe to your own country. it's safe or a safe alternative . rwanda. or a safe alternative. rwanda. that's a common sense position, i think, of the vast majority , i think, of the vast majority, the british public. it's my position . that's what i want to position. that's what i want to deliver as prime minister rishi sunak now the skipper of a fishing which helped rescue dozens of migrants from the engush dozens of migrants from the english channel last week , has english channel last week, has hit out at the uk for making the tragedy inevitable. the government . it has a legal duty government. it has a legal duty to pick anyone in distress in the channel skipper raymond strahan told gb news. british authorities have been acting as authorities have been acting as a migrant taxi service, encouraging ever increasing numbers of people to make the journey. when get the uk government saying look at patrol boats out, just stop the process . well, i see the patrol , but . well, i see the patrol, but you see them like i talk to service operators . now, the service operators. now, the mother of a three year old girl has criticised the health on the eve of a nationwide nurses strike nurses union has threatened further action in the
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new year if . ministers don't new year if. ministers don't respond to their demands within 48 hours of tomorrow's walkout. steve barclay says he's open to talks . unite ahead of strike talks. unite ahead of strike action , but suggested the action, but suggested the government won't budge on pay. the mother told mr. barclay at a hospital in south london it's unfair to blame resourcing issues on the covid pandemic. we have problems in the nhs before we went into the pandemic we were short of jobs, she . we were were short of jobs, she. we were short of that going into the pandemic. so i think it's wrong to blame it on the pandemic and actually damage that you're doing to the families like myself is terrible . meanwhile, myself is terrible. meanwhile, the health secretary says he's keen work with the unions to address the range of concerns that matter to staff. but he says they must provide sufficient emergency cover to protect patients . you need to protect patients. you need to focus on patients and addressing the backlogs that have particularly the waiting for operations as a result of the
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pandemic and that's why it's that we work together and i'm very keen to continue those talks with the ocean and other unions so we can mitigate impact on patient safety . an inquest on patient safety. an inquest has heard the former who fell into a frozen lake , solihull, into a frozen lake, solihull, died from drowning. the children between six and 11 years old were taken to a hospital in a condition after being from the water just over a week ago. a number of vigils have been held over the past week to tribute to the little boys who died . now the little boys who died. now network rail is warning by railway workers will cause needless misery by severely disrupting services over the festive . thousands of rmt festive. thousands of rmt members walk out from 6:00 on christmas eve until the 27th of december. the rac has said traffic will be especially bad on friday and saturday in light of the strikes. with 20 million cars expected to hit the motorways this week, it predicts
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almost 8 million journeys will be made the two days before christmas day . that brings you christmas day. that brings you up to date on gb news mornings as it happens. now back to patrick . patrick. patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. right now, to on a story that i know is a topic for a lot of you watching and. listening right now is the rwanda plan. well, the government has welcomed the high not high court's decision that not rwanda game is lawful they rwanda plans game is lawful they go. so now criticism has to move on to whether or not it's effective or ethically right. but one thing at a time. the prime said a little prime minister said a little earlier that committed earlier that they were committed to running a system to plan and to running a system whereby come the uk whereby you come to the uk illegally, you will not have the right stay and we will be right to stay and we will be able to return your own able to return you to your own country safe or a safe country if it's safe or a safe alternative like rwanda. so basically let's be honest,
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having borders having control over our borders and down illegal, which having control over our borders athink down illegal, which having control over our borders athink is down illegal, which having control over our borders athink is too own illegal, which having control over our borders athink is too much legal, which having control over our borders athink is too much tolal, which having control over our borders athink is too much to ask. /hich having control over our borders athink is too much to ask. but| i think is too much to ask. but joining me now is crime. justice and commentator. it's and policing commentator. it's danny and known as an danny. and danny is known as an absolutely solid here because you have brought in, you wave it up. going you've up. we're going around. you've got so that says, what is got the so that says, what is that that i'm looking at now? this is actually the judgement. this is actually the judgement. this is actually the judgement. this is the by the to judge is lord justice louis justice swift that was delivered the court this morning it's 440 odd paragraphs go of legal text this is the that says right that the policy is lawful yep but in respect of eight people eight asylum seekers their individual claims have to be looked at have to be reconsidered by okay what is but the thrust of the policy is but the thrust of the policy is lawful could go ahead and so there were 12 points to my right in saying that were that the court had to decide on whether or not they were lawful and they've of gone through of they've kind of gone through of them methodically
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them quite methodically and decided every of decided that every single one of them is lawful that right. them is as lawful that right. yes. campaign groups and the yes. the campaign groups and the individual asylum seekers who brought through brought this claim through their lawyers of 12 lawyers made sort of 12 arguments to say that this home office policy was it was irrational , was not well put irrational, was not well put together . rwanda irrational, was not well put together. rwanda was unsafe , together. rwanda was unsafe, etc. and on every single of those points, the have gone through and disagree reid rejected all of those claims , rejected all of those claims, not even particularly close sometimes rulings. you can read between the lines and see the judges wrestled with. yeah a decision and come out. you know the balance is slightly this this side rather than this side this side rather than this side this isn't the case so this time they're ruling that the policy is lawful. well, that's interesting. now, do you mind. i'm sorry. i know you've had a heck of a lot of reading that, but some of these 12 points. so one of them you said about rwanda unsafe. they've obviously pooh idea that saying pooh poohed the idea that saying rwanda legally safe . so rwanda is legally a safe. so that whole human rights argument about rwanda is dead and buried
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as well as the idea of flights not being outside. well, what they've that claims they've said is that the claims that been put forward to that have been put forward to say it's that it's unsafe say that it's that it's unsafe or for example, that the or to say, for example, that the asylum seekers under this . yeah. asylum seekers under this. yeah. would be unsafe . that's not would be unsafe. that's not true. that's not correct. because in essence they're saying is the deal that has been struck between uk and the rwandan government . they believe rwandan government. they believe that that deal, you know, is a commitment by both parties that rights of the asylum seekers will be respected. that's the key they putting a lot of weight by deal that's been struck that's what we're a couple of the other key points and i know a lot of people saying well i think he's wrong so for another country to be processing it where outsourcing our processing etc. of the other etc. well, one of the other arguments was that process arguments was that the process that's used to decide who goes to rwanda is unfair. okay what the judges are saying is that procedurally it's sound, it's lawful. there's nothing unfair
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about the process in terms of the people. well, you know, it provides people to be represented to make representations, to argue against being sent there. there's nothing intrinsically about the process wrong, however, yet the eight individuals themselves is going to have to get those claims needs. can i ask a favour of your very on point? this stay right where you are. we're going live now to the house of commons with home secretary suella braverman is addressing mvp's after ruled after high court ruling ruled the rwanda plan was legal. let's take the commons for decades they were told that this was immoral and that their concerns and opinions didn't matter. immoral and that their concerns and opinions didn't matter . even and opinions didn't matter. even today we see from certain quarters an unhealthy contempt for anyone who wants control migration . such an attitude is , migration. such an attitude is, mr. speaker . moreover, it's mr. speaker. moreover, it's fanciful . we do not have fanciful. we do not have infinite capacity already. we
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struggling to accommodate new arrivals . meaning we spend arrivals. meaning we spend millions every day in hotel bills alone . we cannot . people bills alone. we cannot. people coming illegally . it is not coming illegally. it is not legitimate it to leave a safe country like france to seek asylum in. the united kingdom . asylum in. the united kingdom. and we have to break the business model of the people smuggling , gangs, their trade in smuggling, gangs, their trade in human cargo is evil and lethal. as we were tragically reminded very recently , there is a global very recently, there is a global crisis and it requires international solutions . in international solutions. in april , my international solutions. in april, my right honourable friend, the for witham backed by my right friend, the member for uxbndge my right friend, the member for uxbridge and south islip signed a ground breaking migration economic development partnership with rwanda and they deserve enormous credit for their work on this . we agreed people who
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on this. we agreed people who come to the uk via dangerous illegal and unnecessary means can be relocated to rwanda to have their asylum claims considered. that those in of protection will be given up to five years of support , including five years of support, including education and employment training along help with integration. a accommodation and health care being relocated to rwanda is a punishment but an end innovative way of addressing major problem. to redress the imbalance between illegal and legal migration routes , it will legal migration routes, it will also ensure that those in genuine need international protection are provided with it. in rwanda , it is a humane and in rwanda, it is a humane and practical alternative for those who come here through dangerous, illegal and unnecessary routes and by making it clear that they cannot expect to stay in the uk.
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we will deter more people from coming here and make such unviable . there has been a deal unviable. there has been a deal of misinformation . rwanda of misinformation. rwanda i visited rwanda myself several years ago. she's a state party to the 1951 united nations refugee and the seven core united nations human rights conventions . it is united nations human rights conventions. it is a united nations human rights conventions . it is a safe united nations human rights conventions. it is a safe and dynamic with a thriving economy. it has an excellent record of supporting refugees and vulnerable migrants . the un supporting refugees and vulnerable migrants. the un has used rwanda for the relocation of vulnerable migrants from libya . and this was first funded libya. and this was first funded by the . european. many migrants, by the. european. many migrants, including have already built lives in rwanda . and our lives in rwanda. and our partnership is significant investment in that country and further strengthens our relationship amidst still
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persists that the home office permanent secretary this agreement for the record he did nor did his that it is a desperate it is definitely poor value for money. he stated in his role as accounting officer that the policy's regular and feasible, but there is not currently sufficient evidence demonstrate value for money as he would be the first to agree its feminist has to take decisions having received official advice . and once the official advice. and once the partnership is up and running, he will continue to monitor its efficacy , including value for efficacy, including value for money . now, efficacy, including value for money. now, in june the efficacy, including value for money . now, in june the first money. now, in june the first plane was ready to relocate people to rwanda. our domestic courts, the high court. the courts, the high court. the court of appeal and the supreme upheld our right to send the flight . however following an flight. however following an order by an out—of—hours judge in the european court of human rights, the flight was cancelled so the european court of human rights did rule that the policy
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or relocations were unlawful , or relocations were unlawful, but it prohibited the removal of specific people believe this was a without notice order and the uk was not invited make representations to oppose . mr. representations to oppose. mr. speaker . as a representations to oppose. mr. speaker. as a result we've been unable to operate relocation flights pending ongoing legal proceedings. however we have continued to prepare by issuing notices of intent for those eligible for relocation . am eligible for relocation. am i right? number four and the prime minister recently outlined comprehensive new approach to illegal migration . now a illegal migration. now a judicial review brought against the rwanda partnership by a number of organisations and asylum seekers . the first part asylum seekers. the first part of proceedings considered a case that the partnership is unlawful . part two argued that uk domestic processes under the partnership were unfair. and part that the policy is , part that the policy is, contrary to data protection laws
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.today contrary to data protection laws . today the high court, in a judgement spanning over 130 pages as law justice lewes and mr. justice swift held that is indeed lawful for the government to make arrangement for relocating asylum seekers to rwanda and, for their asylum claims to be in rwanda, rather than in the united kingdom . the than in the united kingdom. the court held further the relocation of asylum seekers to london is consistent with the refugee convention and with the statutory and other legal obugafions statutory and other legal obligations upon the government including obligations imposed by the human rights act. mr. speaker , this judgement speaker, this judgement thoroughly vindicates the rwanda partnership . i earlier today partnership. i earlier today with my rwandan counterpart, the rwanda minister vincent bruton , rwanda minister vincent bruton, and we both confirmed our joint and we both confirmed our joint and steadfast to deliver this
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partnership at scale. as soon as possible . it's what the possible. it's what the overwhelming of the british people want to see happen. the sooner it is up and running, people want to see happen. the sooner it is up and running , the sooner it is up and running, the sooner it is up and running, the sooner we will break the business model of the evil gangs and bring end to these illegal unnecessary and channel crossings . now that our courts crossings. now that our courts have affirmed its legality , i have affirmed its legality, i invite the opposition to get behind this plan and i commend the statement to the house. i call the shadow home secretary in vancouver . call the shadow home secretary in vancouver. thank call the shadow home secretary in vancouver . thank you, mr. in vancouver. thank you, mr. speaken in vancouver. thank you, mr. speaker. the government has failed to stop criminal gangs putting lives at risk and proliferating along our borders. they failed to , prosecute or they failed to, prosecute or convict the gang members. and if failed to take basic asylum decisions which are down by 40%
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in the last six years, and instead of those problems out, they have put forward an unworkable, unethical , expensive unworkable, unethical, expensive plan which risks making trafficking worse . now, the home trafficking worse. now, the home secretary describes today's court judgement as a vindication option. i have to wonder whether she has read it because sets out evidence of problems in home office decision making, identify signal financial costs , this signal financial costs, this scheme and also very limited numbers of people who will be covered and certainly you know evidence that this will act as a deterrent or address the serious problems we face. the court concluded that the home office decision making in each of the eight cases considered was so flawed and that those individual have had to be quashed . have had to be quashed. literally, cases of mixing up evidence and names in individual cases. so they were making
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decisions on the wrong people. confusion teams in glasgow and in croydon about was deciding what and which information should be shared. of torture and traffic not considered . and we traffic not considered. and we know too that . the home office know too that. the home office attempted to send heavily pregnant women to rwanda. now, this is a indictment of the decision making process in the home office, which we know isn't working because 98% of the small boat arrivals in the last 12 months have had no decision . months have had no decision. all. and what government seem to have effectively decided . they have effectively decided. they are so incapable of getting a grip on the asylum system and taking asylum decisions effectively here in the uk . they effectively here in the uk. they want to pay a country halfway , want to pay a country halfway, the world to take those decisions. for us . now, on the decisions. for us. now, on the lawfulness of the decision , the lawfulness of the decision, the court accepted the rwanda doesn't asylum processing capacity , including interpreters capacity, including interpreters or legal support to take these decisions. but it's concluded the agreement is still lawful of
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two key things that the number of people rwanda takes will be very limited and there will be lots more money provided by the uk government. the home secretary . tell us about any of secretary. tell us about any of those things . so can she now those things. so can she now tell us how many people does she expect to send to rwanda next? year rwanda said it accommodate 200 people. that is 0.5% of this year's channel crossings. 200 people. that is 0.5% of this year's channel crossings . the year's channel crossings. the home office itself has said there's evidence it will act as a deterrent and that it is unenforceable and has a high risk of fraud. secondly country tell us the full cost . the court tell us the full cost. the court said there will be significant additional funding provided . the additional funding provided. the government's already written rwanda two cheques this year, one for £120 million, another this summer fo r £20 million. this summer for £20 million. millions more are promised. so how much more? and how much is this going to end up costing per? because it looks like over million pounds per person at moment. and third, the court judgement says no evidence the uk government sought to investigate either the terms of
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the rwanda israel agreement or the rwanda israel agreement or the way it had worked in practise on earth. not because that agreement was abandoned with , evidence that it had with, evidence that it had increased traffic and the activity of criminal gangs . activity of criminal gangs. convictions of people smuggling already dropped by 75% in the space of two years. convictions for , people trafficking are for, people trafficking are already pitifully low. and a former chief has warned the borders act will make that worse. time and the criminal the government is failing to tackle the criminal gangs who are driving this or to make them pay the price. so instead of this unworkable, unethically unethical , extortionate, unethical, extortionate, expensive and deeply damaging policy, the government should be using this investment to go after the gangs who are putting lives at risk. time and again, all they're doing is chasing . all they're doing is chasing. and these are distractions , and these are distractions, damaging distractions from the cv , hard work to tackle the and cv, hard work to tackle the and sort out the asylum system. the home secretary has said that the conservatives are in last chance
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saloon. it is their policies that have put them there and that have put them there and that have put them there and that have let the country down. four always ramping up the rhetoric , never doing the rhetoric, never doing the serious hard work common sense. britain deserves better than this. britain better than this. here yeah. okay. right. well a world of stuff to get sucked in. see, that's what the problem was in the commons. initially, they were addressing the court ruling that the rwanda plan is lawful yvette cooper, our counterpart, has hit and made a series of very interesting points , very interesting points, actually, essentially saying, right, well, the court ruling does say that it is lawful. however they are going in off the affordable kitty and the ethical are they that she's saying that it might make trafficking worse by pushing it further underground. okay or i says that there's no evidence it will act as a deterrent. okay fine. apparently the uk government wants it to heavily pregnant rwanda . she pregnant women to rwanda. she says that 98% of the small boat crossings have still been. crossings have still not been. and crucially , it's not and again, crucially, it's not value for money. we've already
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written checks rwanda. written sea checks to rwanda. all are salient, it all of these are salient, it must said. however optics of must be said. however optics of a flight taking off clearly the biggest thing, i think, for suella marks suella braverman question marks over or not rwanda plan over whether or not rwanda plan is enough funding. i still with me and he's been listening along diligently for that is a justice and policing commentator danny shaw and i'm very to say that barrister rebecca butler also joins me now. so we've got a two for one and rebecca oh, look, i'll go to before i go back i'll go to you before i go back . danny, your initial thoughts on and what we just on this ruling and what we just heard well , heard in parliament that, well, danny shaw and myself , evette danny shaw and myself, evette cooper doesn't seem have read the judgement because i don't agree with analysis of . what the agree with analysis of. what the high court ruled today , the high court ruled today, the issues that were were as danny has already, you know quite adequately summed up whether article three rights were going to be upheld by the rwandan government and whether it was unlawful or whether it was
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irrational . very interestingly , irrational. very interestingly, which yvette cooper refer to, but suella braverman did is actually the charities like care for calais and refugee and also by the way, the civil servants union who also brought the judicial review , they were judicial review, they were deemed to not have standing. so that's bit of a slap in the for face organisations like care for calais, who are highly and they will give people the lines to feed when they eventually get processed. now the processing has always been based in the rwanda policy , has always been rwanda policy, has always been based on january the first, 2022 policy that if you arrive into the uk, a by an unsafe safe or dangerous route , which means dangerous route, which means back of a or in a dinghy , your
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back of a or in a dinghy, your case is inadmissible , meaning case is inadmissible, meaning they're not to listen to your story about why you're seeking asylum in the uk because you have come through this third country and the third country unit then handed your case . and unit then handed your case. and the third country unit then you why did you leave france. now some the claimants in this case had been france for seven or eight months, as said to you the other day, patrick, turkey is one of the axis of problem here. people across europe . but if you people across europe. but if you search in for seven or eight months, why aren't you taking advantage of their asylum rules? so rwanda got choked so that we are about to because you want to
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bnng are about to because you want to bring danny in and then i'll go i'll go about you, about coming. i'll go about you, about coming. i think there's a series of really fascinating and points that danny i mean not one now so in theory so care for calais do not standing that's an interesting i do slightly to delve into that for me and our viewers and all this is what that means but also the idea now that means but also the idea now that if you are in france and you just want just prefer to be in the uk . you just want just prefer to be in the uk. danny, it you just want just prefer to be in the uk . danny, it sounds to in the uk. danny, it sounds to me like not good enough me like just not good enough anymore. well, that's the government's policy in the ruling has clearly backed their policy in respect of the rwanda agreement. so it's you know, this is a major as suella braverman said in the commons, this thoroughly vindicates the rwanda partnership. this is a massive victory for the government, no doubt about that. but have a problem in but they do have a problem in terms of the decision making. and i think yvette cooper has highlighted the one issue that in a sense is positive for the labouris in a sense is positive for the labour is positive for them, which is that eight people that the government was trying to remove who brought claim ,
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remove who brought this claim, the said you haven't made the judges said you haven't made the judges said you haven't made the decisions in the right way you didn't consider all the material, all the evidence you should have considered. there were two sets of people in the home office making, different decisions in some of those. that's a bit of a mess. so the government a problem because government has a problem because if to get lots of if they want to get lots of people these flights to rwanda, if the policies got the if the policies now got the green light and want to do green light and they want to do that. going to have to that. they're going to have to get these decisions correct and get these decisions correct and get them right and make sure they're because otherwise they're robust because otherwise there will be legal challenges brought individuals brought by these individuals that up the courts and that will clog up the courts and weeks and months to process. and thatis weeks and months to process. and that is the key challenge for them. now, there one other issue, patrick, as well , and issue, patrick, as well, and it's about this. there is there a bloc at the moment on flying to rwanda that was put put there by the european court of human rights in that interim order back in the summer. that still applies. there's a hint, suella braverman, that they tried to perhaps go around that if they can because she said we have a
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joint and steadfast to deliver this policy at scale as soon as possible , she said. so that possible, she said. so that could be the government would try to get some flights the ground regardless what the european court says . right. european court says. right. again, more fascinating things . again, more fascinating things. rebecca, i'll bring you back in. i was kind of looking for what the next hitch in this would be and potentially it might be now. if i understand danny correctly, the och we are now legally allowed have plane on the allowed to have a plane on the tarmac in this country and. in theory, have people on that plane century wanted to if processing. but unless we specifically can prove that we've handled their original claims properly and considered all properly then they can't be sent not really should be . i sent not really should be. i mean, that's fair enough. i mean, that's fair enough. i mean, otherwise it is a bit of a ropey deportation flight. it we should expect to have processes properly here. in that sense mean how difficult will this make now actually still make it now to actually still get people abroad ? well, look at get people abroad? well, look at who one of the parties were this judicial and it was the judicial review and it was the which is a trade union force the
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civil servant workers . and they civil servant workers. and they brought the judicial review on the grounds that their employer were upset over the policy by the high court. were upset over the policy by the high court . we had very the high court. we had very short shrift with the. so you haven't standing anyway and in legally said this isn't a claim that ought to be heard. the high court so you have to ask yourself to what extent the civil servants have ambushed or sabotaged the policy . the other sabotaged the policy. the other point that danny makes is, is the numbers of people needing to be deported . if you listen to be deported. if you listen to scott morris and when the australians had similar problems 20 odd years ago, a scott morrison's said you only need to for the business model to be smashed and that is exact what happenedin smashed and that is exact what happened in australia is they sent gun boats out twice and
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that was the end of people by boat on the northern of australia. so smashing the business has been achieved today . one thing that is accurate think is this point that we have shepherded people ashore or through the lifeboat rnli and we have shepherded them safely onto can beaches. now the problem with this is that it is an attempt to smash the business model. these guys have billions invested bringing over people who are genuine and asylum seekers and some who aren't, but they have a huge financial incentive to do it. so they now going to make sure the vessels are smaller , less amenable to be are smaller, less amenable to be picked up by radar. and are they going to be bringing more people overin going to be bringing more people over in the up the darkness , over in the up the darkness, which is for me, a really big
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worry. and as i said last week , worry. and as i said last week, this to you, patrick. it's quite important that we do keep working with the french to make sure that those beach is are not launch sites the dinghies. i do see that as a really big problem but we today smashed that business model and the fact that only eight were deemed to have had their claims improper fully assessed and it was only on the rights assessment for article three that they were criticised. guys really for a new policy. i don't think kate is actually anything to. yeah, i'm inclined agree with you on that. i'm inclined to go with you on that rebecca look thank you very, very much sally reaction that our to us piracy. rebecca but look danny i'll give the last word over to danny shore is still crime. in still here crime. justice in policing. saying policing. commentator saying that we smashed the business model. people might showing model. people might be showing that screens now going round that tv screens now going round gosh is there there another
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gosh is there is there another this could go through before is this could go through before is this relatively safe now as a as a as concept there one to a as a concept there one to thing? is anything else thing? is there anything else we're hear that could we're going to hear that could a spanner works? dan, spanner in the works? dan, i disagree rebecca that i don't think business has think the business model has been smashed also by the court. well it hasn't. this is a this is day for the is a good day for the government. there's no doubt about because their about that, because their policy has declared lawful. but has been declared lawful. but there inevitably an there will inevitably be an attempt to appeal against this. take to the court of appeal could then go to the supreme could then go to the uk supreme court could go to the european court could go to the european court human rights. still court of human rights. still a signatory that the moment. so signatory to that the moment. so this go trundling along the courts next year. i don't think the business model has been smashed yet. don't think the people smugglers in northern france waiting for their next trip to england are saying, oh goodness, high courts ruled goodness, the high courts ruled ruled in favour of this policy. that's it. i'm not taking my boats out. that hasn't happened yet. well, okay, very yet. okay well, okay, very interesting stuff. i'm being told that i've got to i've got told that i've got to i've got to move on, which is annoying because it just about get
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because it was just about get spicy actually. thank spicy that actually. but thank you the we have you very much the we have thoroughly enjoyed that reaction for you watching live and reacting breaking reacting to that breaking news of all right. the of course. yes. all right. the rwanda is now lawful. it's rwanda plan is now lawful. it's got speaking in got a problem. was speaking in the ? well, the commons? well, just outlining keep outlining it. keep it highlighted points well in highlighted points as well in return saying is it value for money and you think actually is ethically sound. so we talked about throughout course about this throughout the course of well got those of the show as well got those these you are with these coming in but you are with me patrick christys right here on gb news. and coming up, former top game presenter jeremy former top game presenterjeremy is in hot water after making comments about meghan markle. he gone i thought it gone too far. i just thought it was funny to me. it was was quite funny to me. it was the column by a chap, it the column written by a chap, it may or two drinks or may be one or two drinks or maybe one or drinks the maybe one or two drinks the night before i realised he had a son, colin knock out and he's just been vile. i didn't take it personally then again, i'm personally but then again, i'm not markle get not meghan markle but we'll get stuck all of this. i feel i stuck into all of this. i feel i just had lots. stuck into all of this. i feel i just had lots . patrick thank you just had lots. patrick thank you and good afternoon . you. the and good afternoon. you. the home secretary says she is to
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rwanda. deportees and plans after the high court ruled it is lawful speaking the commons a short time ago suella said the plan was humane and a practical alternative for . those who come alternative for. those who come to the uk through dangerous and illegal routes, that's after the royal courts of justice ruled the policy is consistent with the policy is consistent with the international refugee convention . but charities have convention. but charities have vowed to today's decision, claiming the east african nation lacks a fair and efficient asylum system . the 23 year old asylum system. the 23 year old gabriel hutchinson become the second woman to die following a crowd outside the o2 academy in brixton last week, the met police says she was working as part of the security team at the venue. part of the security team at the venue . the force also said three venue. the force also said three women who were critically injured were all in the foyer of the building a third woman aged 21 remains in a critical condition in hospital . and the condition in hospital. and the mother of a three year old girl has criticised the health secretary on the eve of the
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nationwide nurses strike. the nurses union has further industrial action . the new year. industrial action. the new year. if ministers don't respond to their demands within 48 hours of tomorrow's walkout , steve tomorrow's walkout, steve barclay says he's open to talks with unite ahead of strike action, but suggested the government won't budge on pay . government won't budge on pay. we have problems in the nhs before we went into the pandemic we short of jobs we were short of that going into the pandemic. so i think it's really wrong. blame it on the pandemic can actually the damage that you're doing to the families like myself terrible jeremy clarkson has responded to the backlash on comments he made about the duchess sussex . over 6000 duchess sussex. over 6000 complaints were made to the press regulator over an article he wrote in a newspaper column in which he said he , the duchess in which he said he, the duchess on a cell alert level. clarkson wrote twitter this afternoon. i'm horrified to have caused so much hurt, and i shall be more
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right. okay. welcome back, everybody. now a second woman sadly has died after being injured in a crush at a brixton concert. she's been named as 23 year old gabriel hutchinson , who year old gabriel hutchinson, who sadly died in hospital in the early hours of this morning. 33 year old rebecca khumalo from newham as well on. well, gb news is national reporter joins newham as well on. well, gb news is national reporterjoins me in the studio with the latest. what is the latest please? well, this is the latest please? well, this is really news. it's broken in the last 50 minutes or so. and it's the woman has died following incident at o2 academy
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last thursday. so we have just got some some information on her. we know that her name is gabrielle hutchinson , just 23, gabrielle hutchinson, just 23, and she died in in the early hours of this morning. we understand that she was working in security at the event on thursday night. this is a crowd crash which is believed to have happened at the event on thursday night. and gabrielle was working on the security . we was working on the security. we have a statement from the police and commander for lambeth and suffolk who says it is devastating news that a second person has lost life following the on thursday . i wish the events on thursday. i wish to express my heartfelt condolences to gabrielle's family at this unimaginably difficult time. now, patrick, this follows the death of 33 year old rebecca khumalo , who year old rebecca khumalo, who died on saturday. death was announced then. she was a mother of two. and it's believed that both these women, both gabrielle hutchinson , rebecca khumalo , hutchinson, rebecca khumalo, were in the foyer of building.
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and we as well that a third woman who is 21 does remain in hospital in critical condition. gosh okay. well, i mean, what what exact actually happened at that concert that on thursday, what happened? well, it's not exactly clear. and there is going to be a huge police investigation into what happened on thursday night. now, we do know that it was nigerian afrobeats artist called asha. now he is really popular. he sold out three nights at the russian academy . this was the russian academy. this was the third night that he sold out venue. it has a 5000 person campus city, but videos , social campus city, but videos, social media show hundreds people pushing and shoving at the doors which were close, which suggest that there were hundreds people inside and pushing outside of the venue as well. eyewitness say that many people have turned up without a ticket. they would chant saying that they were hoping that could be let in. other eyewitnesses saying there were no checks of tickets that were no checks of tickets that were just let into the were just being let into the venue. were just being let into the venue . none of those reports venue. none of those reports have been established just yet
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but eyewitness is saying that there was lots of pushing lots, of and people were of shoving and people were struggling ashoka struggling to breathe. ashoka was actually on stage when this had only been performing for about 10 minutes, when that concert came to an abrupt end, the police were called at about minutes past they were minutes past nine. they were called again about 9:30. and thankfully , the police station thankfully, the police station in was only a few in brixton was only a few hundred metres from the o2 academy. many people are saying . event have been a . this event could have been a lot if the police hadn't lot worse if the police hadn't reacted as quickly as they did. but that is the breaking news that we have in the last hour or so.the that we have in the last hour or so. the second woman has died and police investigation and a police investigation investigation will continue to find out exactly what happened thursday night. ali, thanks for bringing us the latest on that as ellie costello there on reporter gosh well there we are. well, we're just going to move away from that now kind of back to one of our main topics of the day before we go to our breaking news on the brics. an academy saw there, but lots of you
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saw desks there, but lots of you have been getting in touch. your thoughts rwanda because thoughts on rwanda because yes, in living the in case you've living on the moon your fingers in your moon with your fingers in your the court found that was the high court found that it was indeed a lawful plan to get people planes. obviously, people on planes. obviously, rwanda saw the problem in this column. brought that in column. we brought that live in moscow evacuee moscow moments ago. evacuee oprah she hit back oprah counterpart, she hit back and she's a little bit of a back and she's a little bit of a back and forth going there. and forth going on there. but i wanted what guys wanted to know what you guys were saying. and ladies, of course, nic. so here we are. here she man says come the here she is a man says come the rwanda day retrospective rwanda day will be retrospective to illegal to include all illegal immigrants have arrived immigrants that have arrived here last 5 to 7 years. here in the last 5 to 7 years. i'm know because i'm probably not know because are to go to rwanda for are supposed to go to rwanda for processing but get your processing but i get your sentiment nic. i get it. michael says be justice if the says it be poetic justice if the british pro eu pro—immigration in could in westminster quislings could be after . all be deported to rwanda after. all home the house so home is why the house so actually just just deporting people who voted remain. interesting dave says do you know which airport they will be flying the asylum from and on what day the first flight will be to rwanda . i just to turn up be to rwanda. i just to turn up and wave off that's strong dave
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so stuff what we can see that the vast majority of you guys there's a lot more in my inbox as well it's fair to say gbviews@gbnews.uk are pretty happy that this is now coming to fruition . it is a massive shot fruition. it is a massive shot in the arm and a big vindication for the government no longer can only kind of, you know, charity workers, etc. here and say, workers, etc. on here and say, well, a human abuse because well, it's a human abuse because in court case , the in this court case, the government won. right. to say that rwanda is a safe country that rwanda is a safe country that the deal itself sound and that the deal itself sound and that the deal itself sound and that the people that will be sent there will be looked after that it sent there will be looked after thatitis sent there will be looked after that it is ethical in that regard they were also basically to say, well, whether or not that this could happen. sean passion apparently it come but yes and also as well i thought was fascinating is that some of these like caf or calais these charity like caf or calais have to not have stun which have been to not have stun which actually is bad day for the likes of cat for calais but yeah so again the plan is that this will as a deterrent the plan is that this will smash the business model. there are
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serious concerns about this. so just quickly before we move on to breaking story to another breaking story actually, actually will actually, which is actually will add deterrent. and is it add to the deterrent. and is it add to the deterrent. and is it a massive massive a massive, massive massive expense? so to of those things, i it's questionable. it i think it's questionable. it a massive and you massive expense. and when you really down per illegal really break it down per illegal immigrant could the immigrant you could that the only way that it makes sense in terms of value for money thing is is a deterrent when you is if it is a deterrent when you do in the fact that do factor in the fact that people dying channel people have dying in the channel and stopped people and that actually stopped people going migrants will take going maybe migrants will take the odds and go, well, if only what? 0.5% of people. it's the figure who have come over in the last year would be sent everyone to. i mean, i'd probably take those , wouldn't you anyway? gb those, wouldn't you anyway? gb is it gbnews.uk lo's to pick that right now? you might have thought that seen the last of harry and meghan on your tv screens for a while. but yeah, you were wrong this you were wrong that this afternoon netflix have released the trailer a new the trailer for a new documentary series titled what is life to lead? great alive is it life to lead? great alive to lead live to lead off on a minute when i speak to cameron, which will be presented by the
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duke and duchess of sussex. i was inspired by know how nelson mandela. take at mandela. let's take a look at this trailer. mandela. let's take a look at this trailer . this was inspired this trailer. this was inspired by nelson mandela and once said what counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. it is what we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead what you . it's the life we lead what you. it's about people who have made brave choices to fight for change and to become leaders and giving inspiration to the rest of us to live , to lead . live, to lead. well i've been reliably informed it is in fact lived to lead and that i'm waiting for thinking he might be alive lead. but anyway, he knows that was like bingo for sopping wet, wasn't it? we've got
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jacinda ardern in there. we've got some democrat on the supreme court. we got granted i mean, the nelson mandela link, one would argue, is pretty years, although, course, meghan although, of course, meghan markle someone out markle did say that someone out of king once said that of the lion king once said that when she married prince harry and came into royal family, and came into the royal family, they felt exactly the same way. no apologies in the streets, like when nelson was like when nelson mandela was released , on released from prison anyway, on this now from gb news his role that cameron walker cameron. what hell is this? yes what fresh hell is this? yes patrick seven episodes we've got for you on new year's eve. will dropping on netflix. oh now i'm but i mean to be honest when i first heard that harry and meghan had done a deal with netflix this was the kind of series i was expecting them actually rather than actually to make, rather than what we saw last week with the six talking about their six episodes talking about their experience as members of the royal family. it's 725 minute royal family. so it's 725 minute episode is, as you said, inspired nelson inspired by nelson mandela. we've got gretta timberg. they've been speaking to jacinda ardern, the new zealand prime minister. i'm surprised by jacinda ardern actually, because
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. they talk about their experiences members of the royal family. we're still in that fallout, of course. now we're talking about this new netflix documentary coming new documentary coming out on new year's eve . documentary coming out on new year's eve. i'm glad it is new year's eve. i'm glad it is new year's eve. i'm glad it is new year's eve and i'm sure a lot of people will be as well, because it's going overshadow it's not going to overshadow another in the another events. this in the royal calendar, which another events. this in the roof calendar, which another events. this in the roof course, calendar, which another events. this in the roof course, the lendar, which another events. this in the roof course, the king's which another events. this in the roof course, the king's speech is, of course, the king's speech happening on christmas day. yes. well, and i would well, of course. and i would imagine this is just going to be a constant, like a little nat floating around. oh, we had one in the studio earlier on, but insomuch not that insomuch as while we're not that bright, know, this is bright, but, you know, this is not the royal not like this for the royal family you know, how are family now, you know, how are you going to just kind of occasionally off on netflix occasionally pop off on netflix and get off to whether and just get off to whether oprah? yeah, so we'll have to wait exact of it. wait and see the exact of it. but basically they want try but basically they want to try to speak who they to speak to people who they think changing world to speak to people who they thirthe changing world to speak to people who they thirthe better|anging world to speak to people who they thirthe better or ging world to speak to people who they thirthe better or have world to speak to people who they thirthe better or have changed for the better or have changed the world. so, i mean, in case of nelson mandela is pretty unequivocal, isn't but some unequivocal, isn't it? but some would for would argue about ardern for example. yeah, example. but yeah, people, people they think fluffy people that they think fluffy and broken the and lovely and have broken the mould align themselves
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and lovely and have broken the moul guess align themselves and lovely and have broken the moul guess what? align themselves and lovely and have broken the moul guess what? essentially;elves with, guess what? essentially they're people they're speaking to people who they're speaking to people who they see inspiration and see they see as inspiration and see on the world stage and speaking to the upbringing, on the world stage and speaking to they the upbringing, on the world stage and speaking to they to 1e upbringing, on the world stage and speaking to they to where ringing, on the world stage and speaking to they to where they|g, on the world stage and speaking to they to where they are how they got to where they are and what inspires them going for its courage. it's about showing messages compassion messages of courage, compassion , hope generosity , humility, hope and generosity . that's where it goes. well i mean, it is like bingo , isn't mean, it is like bingo, isn't it, with some of these things, some of the names involved and some of the names involved and some of the names involved and some of those things, you know, courage , all of this stuff. but courage, all of this stuff. but then go we'll come to thank then we go we'll come to thank you anyway. come walk you very much anyway. come walk that you that oh royal reporter there you 90, that oh royal reporter there you go, ladies and you have got a new fellow of netflix documentaries from meghan and harry coming your way left to lead. yes. this document series presented by them is going drop on the 31st of december. the jacinda ardern was interesting. they're saying they're going to be inspiration from nelson mandela stuff. yes. meghan markle is a lady who actually to try convince least herself try to convince at least herself some of the cast of the some member of the cast of the king said that they'd had king had said that they'd had parties, like when parties, the streets, like when mandela released from mandela was released from prison, actually prison, when she actually managed to well break free of
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the royal family marry into it, whatever way you want to look at it, which think is pretty shoddy, so i'm sure shoddy, isn't it? so i'm sure we'll with bated breath. we'll await with bated breath. the year old by the the ten year old down, by the way, is the lady decided to have one of the most dictatorial approaches to the growth virus. completely strip everyone of civil rights civil liberties and human rights and top of that, and of course, on top of that, managed ban people from managed now ban people from smoking on a certain age, smoking on beyond a certain age, you're end the you're going to end up the farcical situation in new zealand where a 49 year old man is in a car outside an off licence, desperately trying to find a 50 year old man to go buy him of camel blows. i him a deck of camel blows. i mean, for goodness sake, call that totalitarian. certainly mean, for goodness sake, call that totalita|of1. certainly mean, for goodness sake, call that totalita|of been�*rtainly mean, for goodness sake, call that totalita|of been getting in do but have of been getting in with your thoughts on the rwanda being declared polls says being declared lawful polls says if saw the if the tories saw out the migrant election will migrant the next election will be tasty . yes, but i was be very tasty. yes, but i was listening to the problem with interest and wondering what the opinion is going to go up because it is a win for the government. absolutely. as people said, actually people said, that actually there's ever get there's no way we'll ever get a flight taking. well, now it's lawful lot of the old lawful with it. a lot of the old tropes , the rwanda plan have
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tropes, the rwanda plan have gone pop because it is now deemed be a safe country . it deemed to be a safe country. it is to be safe. the asylum is deemed to be safe. the asylum seekers, illegal immigrants , you seekers, illegal immigrants, you want them actually go want to call them to actually go that and the ring fence deal with rwanda is deemed be with rwanda is deemed to be lawful. now labour have to go lawful. so now labour have to go off effective . and is it off on cost effective. and is it actually a deterrent ? and i can actually a deterrent? and i can understand all of that poll can understand all of that poll can understand of that. don't understand all of that. don't get wrong, because get me wrong, because look, those isolation is not those words in isolation is not cost it's because cost effective. it's not because going to cost a whopping great big cash to people big shadow cash to get people over there and all of stuff over there and all of that stuff and the and everything. and the flights and everything. i get that. but if it acts a deterrent, so therefore it stops load of people coming afterwards well cost effective well then it is cost effective isn't it. because costing isn't it. because it's costing us of money to get those us a load of money to get those people over here anyway. so right. the tories need to be smashed ballot box this smashed at the ballot box this poll but labour need be poll now. but labour need be kept from at all cost kept away from power at all cost bellies. think, bellies. bananas is i think, targeting smugglers one targeting the smugglers is one good what the good idea. but what the manufacture rubber boats manufacture of the rubber boats again i think it's there is a cracking point i actually genuinely do think they're going viewers more of you viewers should do more of you
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should politics because should go into politics because i for the of me and i cannot for the life of me and never been able to get a good answer on this. now busloads of people about it. about how people about it. it's about how the might of europol ends the full might of europol ends all special service and all all our special service and all of this stuff. i'm not able to stop small boats manufactured and brought into euro. so when you think about the checks and balances that people are having to do, just to get goods either to do, just to get goods either to ireland , you try and to northern ireland, you try and post over to rotterdam post something over to rotterdam or whatever or go through normal customs, but apparently if you happen to be the manufacturer of a rubber that a small rubber dinghy that you're to get out to calais you're able to get out to calais in yeah, i think in no time. but yeah, i think it's the absolutely unbelievable that to cross that we're not able to cross that. and steve says sending 200 asylum seekers he chose cross—channel boats rwanda as cross—channel boats to rwanda as a cost of millions is not sensible. it will just impress the right wing of the tory party and take money away from the nhs pay and take money away from the nhs pay rises soon. his brother, meant to save his job. yeah. no, i'm this. kind of i'm actually this. i do kind of agree with you steve, just agree with you steve, that just in isolation sending the 200 asylum seekers who chose to
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cross channel and i mean cross the channel and i mean it's absolutely not cost effective before it effective as i said before it will come down to whether or not it's a deterrent. and one thing that yvette said that that yvette cooper said that i think lot of people should be think a lot of people should be very about, indeed very concerned about, if indeed you to something you do want to see something donein you do want to see something done in the channel, is that only point people only nought point 5% of people who've come across the last year would conceivably be sent to rwanda on who rwanda if you were so on who wanted come to the uk and you wanted to come to the uk and you had rubber dinghy locked had your rubber dinghy locked and you would and loaded at calais, you would take those out, wouldn't you? and therefore me is and therefore part of me is wondering whether not this wondering whether or not this rwanda. optics of rwanda. well, the optics of a flight off in flight taking off good in practise is it going to have any impact and if it doesn't, and it's always outsourced. outsourced legal immigration and they will whopping they will get a whopping big kicking at the next general election . you are with me, election. you are with me, patrick christys jib and he's patrick christys on jib and he's coming on rwanda of coming up. more on the rwanda of your views coming in. i love to say you very say it. thank you very, very much all that your way, much with all of that your way, i'm much, much more for the weather. alex deakin your weather. alex deakin here your latest update from the latest weather update from the met probably noticed it's met office probably noticed it's a milder there. it's a lot milder out there. it's also and windier than it
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also wetter and windier than it has been wet and windy has been in wet and windy weather means a low is weather usually means a low is nearby. got big one here nearby. we've got a big one here and is spiralling round, and it is spiralling round, gusty and weather fronts bringing areas of rain across pretty much all parts. we'll certainly see some heavier overnight across parts of the south. we do have a met office yellow warning in place covering parts of southern, but much of the midlands eastern england also overcast through the also stay overcast through the night with rain at times. the same goes for south wales. further north, drier conditions, blustery showers in the far northwest, but we'll some northwest, but we'll see some clearer over northern clearer spells over northern england, that england, parts of scotland that will temperatures to drop will allow temperatures to drop actually be a touch actually could even be a touch of frost in rural areas. but with and the rain with all cloud and the rain across the southeast, a very mild here , a wet start mild night here, a wet start because parts of england to tomorrow , pretty quickly, that tomorrow, pretty quickly, that should be out of the way then most places looking dry , bright most places looking dry, bright on tuesday, a few showers north wales northwest england's plenty of showers across the highlands of showers across the highlands of the and of scotland in the hills and gusty here. but elsewhere the winds lighter than today but
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sunshine feeling pleasant enough . temperatures a touch above average lower than today, but obviously much higher than they were for most of last week. still getting up to 9 to 11 celsius through tuesday evening. i think we'll see one or two showers continuing. so the heavy ones across the northwest of scotland but then later on through night, we're looking at some more wet weather pushing in. of course, england , wales, in. of course, england, wales, perhaps southern scotland, too . perhaps southern scotland, too. some uncertainty about when that will air. but it should will clear air. but it should scoot away from parts of england dunng scoot away from parts of england during then brighter to the west. but more showers on wednesday, northern england, wales and certainly showers packing in across scott and northern ireland throughout the day with a blustery day here as well. temperatures again just dropping touch generally about 8 to 10 degrees celsius. that's all for me for now. goodbye. you're on gb news live. we'll be keeping you in the picture, finding out what's happening across the country and finding out why matters to you. we'll out why it matters to you. we'll have the fast with our have the facts fast with our team of reporters and specialist
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channel welcome back, everybody. you're with me. patrick christys on gb news. i'm coming up. the high court has spoken, ruled that the government's rwanda plan is legal. the home secretary it thoroughly vindicates the rwanda partnership. and this is what the prime minister has to say. i want it delivered is a system whereby if you come to the uk illegally you will not have the right to stay. and we be able to return you to your own country. if it's safe or a safe alternative like rwanda . well, alternative like rwanda. well, that was prime minister. she
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said that welcoming the ruling human campaigners say they'll keep on fighting. but will we be seeing lift off to rwanda any time soon? and that is a big question. also, yeah, it looks question. also, yeah, it looks question marks about whether or not it's cost effective or if it's a deterrent. well so far, all of this is coming out. get your views in. but also this hour as we face another week of strikes in, the nhs, a mother of a year old girl suffering a three year old girl suffering from criticised from cystic fibrosis, criticised the secretary steve the health secretary steve barclay staff working barclay over staff working conditions . we have problems in conditions. we have problems in the nhs before we went into the pandemic we were short of job search , we were short fed going search, we were short fed going into the pandemic. so i think it's really wrong to believe it . okay, well there you go. i mean, it does open the conversation even, doesn't it? downing street is that it's too not for the trade unions to call off strike tomorrow. we got nurses the day after we got ambulance workers. i think the ambulance workers. i think the ambulance workers. i think the ambulance workers one is really going off, by the going to kick right off, by the way, because there be audio way, because there will be audio recordings of unable to recordings of people unable to get in hour
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get at ambulance in their hour need dying. need and quite possibly dying. i think will really think that will really crystallise things for people and from jeremy and maybe away from jeremy clarkson horrified to clarkson that he's horrified to have hurt. have caused so much hurt. i shall be more careful in future he facing whopping over he is facing a whopping over comments a newspaper comments made at a newspaper column in the sun how he hated the duchess of sussex, meghan markle but did the former top gear presenter go too far. i have read the whole thing. i must say didn't. it was award must say i didn't. it was award winning but didn't winning prose, but i didn't think going to be think it was going to be cancelled let me know cancelled everyday. let me know your of that gbs your thoughts on all of that gbs or you can tweet me or gbnews.uk. you can tweet me as well gb news, but before as well on gb news, but before that actually like its headlines . pa that actually like its headlines. pa evening to you. the home says she's committed to the rwanda deportation plan after the high court in london . it was lawful . court in london. it was lawful. speaking in the house of commons earlier today, suella braverman said the plan is a humane and proactive alternative for those who've come the uk through dangerous and illegal routes. it
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comes the royal courts of justice ruled the policy consistent with international refugee conventions. charity is have vowed to appeal today's decision , claiming the east decision, claiming the east african nation lacks a fair and efficient asylum system. the home secretary says we cannot tolerate people coming here illegally being relocated to rwanda is not a punishment, but an innovative way of . addressing an innovative way of. addressing an innovative way of. addressing a major problem to redress the imbalance between , illegal and imbalance between, illegal and legal migration . it will ensure legal migration. it will ensure that those genuine need of international protection are provided with it . in rwanda . 23 provided with it. in rwanda. 23 year old gabrielle hutchinson become the second woman to die following crowd crash outside the o2 academy. brixton thursday. the met police says she was working as part of the team of security at the venue. the force also said the three women who were critically injured all in the foyer of the
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building at the time. a third woman remains in hospital in a critical condition . a student critical condition. a student has been charged with threatening behaviour after eggs were thrown at the king during . were thrown at the king during. a trip to york last month. king and queen consort. try a trip to unveil a statue in honour of the late queen when for were thrown in the direction the royals all of which narrowly missed. 23 year old patrick thelwell has been charged with threatening behaviour under public order act. mr. thelwell will appear at york, manchester court next month . the skipper of the month. the skipper of the fishing boat, which rescue dozens of migrants the channel last week has out at uk immigration , making the tragedy immigration, making the tragedy inevitable . the government says inevitable. the government says it has a legal to pick up anyone in distress the channel but skipper raymond strachan told gb news british have been acting as a migrant taxi service , a migrant taxi service, encouraging ever increasing numbers people to make the
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journey . the uk government journey. the uk government should look simple patrol boats to stop the process . well, as to stop the process. well, as the patrol boats have purchased see seem like a taxi service if it is the mother of a three year old girl has criticised the health secretary on the eve of a nationwide nurses strike. the nurses has threatened further industrial in the new year if. ministers don't respond to their demands . 48 hours of tomorrow's demands. 48 hours of tomorrow's walkout . steve barclay says he's walkout. steve barclay says he's to talks with unite of strike action . he suggested the action. he suggested the government won't be budging on pay- government won't be budging on pay. the mother told mr. barclay at a hospital in south london it's unfair to blame resourcing issues on the covid. we have in the nhs before we went into pandemic we were short of jobs , pandemic we were short of jobs, we were short of debt going into the pandemic. so think it's really wrong to blame it on the pandemic ? actually, the damage pandemic? actually, the damage that you're doing to the families like myself is terrible
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. well, the health secretary , . well, the health secretary, he's keen to work with the unions to address the range of concerns that matter to staff but says they must provide sufficient emergency cover to protect patients . need to focus protect patients. need to focus on patients and addressing the backlogs that we particularly the waiting for operations as a result of the pandemic and that's why it's important that we work together and i'm very keen to continue those talks with the ocean and other trade unions so we can mitigate any impact on patient safety safety . an inquest has the four boys who fell into a frozen lake in solihull died from drowning. the children aged between six and 11 years old, were taken hospital in a critical condition after being pulled from the water over a week ago. a number of vigils have been held over the past week to pay tribute to the little boys . now the american little boys. now the american actress heard has settled
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defamation case with former johnny depp. it comes after she was sued by mr. depp over 18 article which she wrote for the washington post about her experiences as a domestic abuse survivor . johnny depp lawyers survivor. johnny depp lawyers argued the article falsely accused him of an abuser in a social statement, ms. had called the decision settle with depp very difficult , saying the decision settle with depp very difficult, saying she'd lost faith in the american legal system . you're up to date lost faith in the american legal system .you're up to date gb system. you're up to date gb news. more news as it happens . news. more news as it happens. now back to . now back to. patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. in the last hour, suella braverman has spoken the house of commons. this follows the high court that it is lawful to relocate asylum seekers to . so anyone who was seekers to. so anyone who was piping seekers to. so anyone who was piping saying it's unlawful. well, you're wrong . she well, you're wrong. she emphasised that the rwanda
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partnership is up and running. the sooner the uk will break the business model of gangs and bnng business model of gangs and bring a stop to illegal channel crossings . joining me now to crossings. joining me now to give his views is the human rights lawyer, paul gilbert. paul right. it's not illegal. it's not unlawful . and it's not unlawful. and apparently, anyway, the debate on whether or not rwanda is a safe country and whether or not this deal actually is right by the people that potentially going to centre rwanda, apparently that appears to be settled now . so presumably the settled now. so presumably the question moves on whether or not it's value for money or whether ethical. is that right? well, i wouldn't say it is necessarily settled. it's settled the sense that this court has decided that the home secretary proposes to do the arrangements that one all lawful . but of course, there is lawful. but of course, there is a right of . the sort of case a right of. the sort of case that could end up in the supreme court for determine nation because of the seriousness of and certainly i anticipate there
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will be you say just before the break. are there going to be any flights taking off? so rwanda any time . and i think the answer any time. and i think the answer to that question is no, not anytime soon. there's another issue that seems to have got slightly got missed in the reporting of this, which that what the court did was that the individual applicants who had made the appeal their cases were considered properly by the home secretary . so although the home secretary. so although the home secretary. so although the home secretary has by this court is acting in a lawful way by sending people to rwanda , the sending people to rwanda, the home section now has to proper because the court decided that these cases were not considered properly reconsider the cases before making them a new decision about whether they should be sent to rwanda . yeah, should be sent to rwanda. yeah, exactly. now, this , i think a exactly. now, this, i think a real point of interest and certainly one for me, which is
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that whilst it might now be decided categorically that we can, in theory, have an aeroplane on a runway somewhere full of people who have it here across the channel islands that the country illegally and that perfectly acceptable for rwanda . take those people and process them so that in the round is legal. but actually does this do anything to stop the on board that plane getting one of these left you lawyers and piping up about the human rights . well you about the human rights. well you mean like me. yes. no, it doesn't stop them from doing that. and in a lot of ways, what this process has demonstrated it is that even though the principle of the sending people, rwanda has , been stated to be rwanda has, been stated to be lawful , the way in which these lawful, the way in which these applications were processed was not or wasn't done in a way that it should have been done . so it should have been done. so what the home the home office has got to be very careful about in dealing with these applications is that they look at eight each individual circumstance in respect of each
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applicant. consider and it's only once they have done that properly that they can then law if any if they made the decision to send to rwanda send them to rwanda . okay. okay. i now does. rwanda. okay. okay. i now does. that's fair enough. well, look, we should processing people properly, though. anyway, we should be looking at this properly i mean one properly anyway. i mean one of the yvette cooper the things that yvette cooper did about, well, did raise was about, well, whether or not, you know, they wanted to send a heavily pregnant woman to, rwanda, some would though, would argue, though, paul, i suspect quite lot . people suspect it's quite a lot. people would you're heavily would argue if you're heavily pregnant, shouldn't pregnant, you probably shouldn't have boat have got in a small boat and come channel, should come across the channel, should you? well, you could argue that point. ultimately, issue the point. ultimately, the issue the home secretary would have to deal with is example. and deal with is that example. and patrick, think that's good patrick, i think that's a good example is whether because got into a dinghy to get get get off the channel is pregnant when they're pregnant that therefore mean that that issue of their pregnancy shouldn't be by the home secretary taking decision about whether to put them on a
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plane to rwanda. and, in fact, it should . and that's exactly it should. and that's exactly what it that the court was addressing when . he said that in addressing when. he said that in this case the decisions to them, to rwanda will be set aside. so that actually . okay, so you've that actually. okay, so you've got this order that is lawful to do it . the actual got this order that is lawful to do it. the actual high court actually set these, but these these these applicants at moment that that order is . but i mean that that order is. but i mean it's a it's up because i mean hopefully they can just get resolved. right. and i think i think a lot of would tolerate a an amount of natural inaccuracies if you're dealing with a huge amount of people the night people are suppose you are maybe being dealt with correctly. and then on top of that, we managed to do. but can i ask you this does change something, it not? a something, does it not? i had a couple of legal gurus on couple of the legal gurus on earlier year saying was earlier this year saying was going to make it harder for people to say they are leaving france uk just france come to the uk just because want to come the because they want to come to the uk because not good uk because that's not good enough seek asylum. enough reason to seek asylum. i'll no war in
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i'll say there is no war in france. there was. the french would probably lost it, but that. no, that's right. and look, refugee convention has look, the refugee convention has always clear that if always been very clear that if you fleeing persecution you you are fleeing persecution you must apply asylum in the first place that you are arriving . and place that you are arriving. and thatis place that you are arriving. and that is clearly not the kingdom in relation to the people that come across the channel france is a safe place, but probably the countries that they go through in getting to france as well. so that does remain the case , though. i mean, to be case, though. i mean, to be honest with you, paul, i suspect that some of these people, when see certain parts of the uk that might plonked in in a hotel might be plonked in in a hotel or a holiday camp have been up to disrespect anyone who to you disrespect to anyone who does at or butlins or does holiday at or butlins or wherever else is somewhere around different coastal around various different coastal towns is going to but towns the uk is going to be. but i'm funny. but some of i'm not being funny. but some of the accommodation rwanda look the accommodation in rwanda look rather would the accommodation in rwanda look rathe thought would the accommodation in rwanda look rathethought there would the accommodation in rwanda look rathe thought there mightjld the accommodation in rwanda look rathe thought there might queuing the accommodation in rwanda look ratiforhought there might queuing the accommodation in rwanda look ratifor somet there might queuing the accommodation in rwanda look ratifor some of1ere might queuing the accommodation in rwanda look ratifor some of these|ight queuing the accommodation in rwanda look ratifor some of these flights|euing up for some of these flights eventually, but paul, i've got to like i've got a lot of air going. paul, we'll talk again soon. you much, paul
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soon. thank you very much, paul gilbert, rights lawyer gilbert, the human rights lawyer that well, mean, that we go. right. well, i mean, there's to talk about there's a lot to talk about here. so look, in practical the rwanda scheme now lawful. yes individuals well puts on individuals who well puts on that flight central 1 to 1 that flight and central 1 to 1 offs of that claims properly looked. well i think that's fair enough obviously otherwise that's to be fair that's pretty ropey to be fair so i don't think that's too much a strategy said less people's claims properly looked at claims to be properly looked at before rwanda. before they're said to rwanda. fair . i can't really be fair enough. i can't really be too happy about this, though, because i don't think it will act as a massive deterrent . i act as a massive deterrent. i just don't. i think if it is literally around nought point % literally around nought point% of people who come across the channel who could be sent to rwanda . you would take odds if rwanda. you would take odds if you're already looking at people dying in the channelling, you'll . well, i'm still going to my chances anyway. realistically are you going to be in that nought point% you know, it's not likely , is it by definition. so likely, is it by definition. so i'm not sure how much more deterrent this will be. unless it is a deterrent , deterrent this will be. unless it is a deterrent, right. then it's not cost effective . so it's not cost effective. so anyway, your views this though
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your views on the optics of , the your views on the optics of, the flight taking off i'm sure are a good thing. deterrent is a good thing and the fact that the government say that it government now can say that it is sound a good is legally sound is a good thing, but let's just play the tape forward of anyway the, news comes skipper of the comes as the skipper of the fishing without dozens of fishing boat without dozens of migrants channel migrants from english channel last angrily hit out uk last week has angrily hit out uk immigration policy for making the inevitable his the tragedy. inevitable in his first since the first full interview since the tragedy, raymond told tragedy, raymond and told gb news, a british. well, he's right, isn't he ? have been right, isn't he? have been acting as a migrant taxi . he's acting as a migrant taxi. he's been like uber for illegal immigrants, been taking place in the he is the channel. he says he is encouraging ever increasing numbers to make the numbers people to make the journey inclined agree journey. i'm inclined to agree with wholeheartedly i hope with him wholeheartedly i hope insecurity why has also insecurity and it's why has also obtained more exclusive images of rescue operation of wednesday's rescue operation . just little warning for you. . just a little warning for you. some you find some of these images you find a bit let's take it bit disturbing. let's take it away . out in the pitch black of away. out in the pitch black of the english channel, the sound of panicked cries for help . the of panicked cries for help. the six man crew of the scallop boat
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rushed to help as they come alongside the strict migrant boat dive. you remember how you know , these images are deeply know, these images are deeply disturbing , know, these images are deeply disturbing, but know, these images are deeply disturbing , but they know, these images are deeply disturbing, but they highlight the very real dangers for these flames vessels and the quick thinking and bravery of local turned rescuers while he was in there , 45 people dead without there, 45 people dead without any fish. nobody going to be safe . i looked over, saved about safe. i looked over, saved about five or six migrants. i got off the safety board for rehman's crew. it was their training and instinct to help that kicked in. it's not easy. first of all, i finally confess from the fully caught when the other dinghy seen it was getting rescued . you seen it was getting rescued. you start to swim towards the boat . start to swim towards the boat. there was raymond . huge relief
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there was raymond. huge relief when the lifeboat boats and coastguard helicopters reached the scene . this is more of the scene. this is more of your political views. debating the crisis . when you see people live crisis. when you see people live off screen , even children off screen, even children begging for their if you can take it. first of all, it human nature thing to do is people and that's what get . on board the that's what get. on board the tourists although these survivors were rescued they were clearly hypothermic . the scallop clearly hypothermic. the scallop boat's crew got them out of their wet clothes and into warm showers before giving them their clothes and some hot . outside clothes and some hot. outside the fire rescue boat from the royal navy's offshore patrol vessel hms severn joined in the for other survivors as on board
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the fishing boat, medics checked over rescued searching . for over rescued searching. for roman struck and said the of wednesday morning were like all local fishing crews they regularly see migrant boats and often after help . like here in often after help. like here in january when the tourists had to stand by alongside two inflatables near dungeness while they waited for uk authorities to arrive on scene , a and that to arrive on scene, a and that same month , astonishing sight of same month, astonishing sight of . five young men crammed in a tiny inflatable rope across the channel without on board motor and not a single lifejackets among a scene five successful crossings last the uk government said it sent patrol boats out to
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stop the process well see the patrol boats they are but you see them like i talk to ship it is all the weapons they saw tragedy in the channel, raymond says , won't act as a deterrent . says, won't act as a deterrent. these crossings he and his crew expect see many more migrant boats out here in the months ahead. boats out here in the months ahead . mark white . gb news. ahead. mark white. gb news. right. well, that was i really really alarming footage that's taking place there. just before we get stuck onto the strikes it's happening now i just want to ask you directly home or if you're any car radio you're listening any car radio onune you're listening any car radio online whatever you're doing online or whatever you're doing is all concerned that this is all you concerned that this rwanda today might rwanda ruling today might practically absolutely now practically mean. absolutely now for the number of boats coming across the channel cost us a of money unrealistically be used as that by the conservative party as the thing to go look you see we're actually doing something without them making without them actually making a blind difference the numbers people over here i can't people coming over here i can't help but as though for the help but feel as though for the vast majority watching or vast majority of you watching or listening now. just listening right now. just the
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fact ten people flew by fact that ten people flew by a private jet to rwanda is , not private jet to rwanda is, not enough really is. i think want to see a bit more than that, especially in light of the fact that we're about to have disused barracks, we're about to have disused halls, we're disused university halls, we're about holiday camps set about to have holiday camps set up these people as well about to have holiday camps set up hotels. these people as well about to have holiday camps set up hotels. i these people as well about to have holiday camps set up hotels. i suspecteople as well about to have holiday camps set up hotels. i suspect the le as well about to have holiday camps set up hotels. i suspect the numbers. as hotels. i suspect the numbers of people flying out to wonder if indeed it ever happens will not be enough. placate your concerns, but i'll have to wait and gives of gb news uk. and see. gives of gb news uk. i'm intrigued to get your views. that's breaking day for that's big breaking news day for this is lawful this rwanda plan is lawful and we plane taking off we might see a plane taking off at some point but more out of downing now. this on downing street now. and this on our story of the day our other top story of the day downing has out with downing street has hit out with the concerning clarity from the concerning of clarity from trade levels ahead the concerning of clarity from tra strike levels ahead the concerning of clarity from tra strike action levels ahead the concerning of clarity from tra strike action by levels ahead the concerning of clarity from trastrike action by ambulance ad of strike action by ambulance workers. this wednesday . my workers. this wednesday. my words, this ambulance workers strike on the wednesday is going to a visible impact to have more of a visible impact to have more of a visible impact to you than the nurses strike is happening again tomorrow. go round. see with the nurses strike tomorrow at my anyway the, prime minister's official spokesman comes to spokesman said when it comes to paramedics is still paramedics there is still a
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concerning of clarity concerning lack of clarity around they are around level of care they are willing provide . going on to willing to provide. going on to say we would urge the unions to come forward with these reassurances patients will understandably be worried . well understandably be worried. well earlier today ministers held a cobham as they prepared for mass walkouts . throughout the week walkouts. throughout the week the work pensions the department for work pensions officials striking today nurses on tuesday. i'm as workers on wednesday posts workers and border guards on friday staff on sunday. i driving examiners at today. sunday. i driving examiners at today . well. well we some today. well. well we some political commentator and strategist peter barnes joins now. peter, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. right. i'm more focussed the ambulance one. apparently they've known to tell the government . so what they're government. so what they're going to do to help keep patients safe? i mean, presumably the point is they're no. is this a deliberate attempt to target public health? is it evil. well think this is one of these things where you kind of have to realise that a lot of these strike action is a bit of
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a war of words at the minute. you know it's all about who will help first and given there's always a lot of public sympathy. paramedics and nurses and people like trade unions like that they the trade unions are still operating under the idea going get idea that they're going to get get they for . that get whatever they ask for. that used be one of old rules used to be one of the old rules in politics. give them what they want that want because they want that powerful. most powerful. what's most interesting look at interesting is when you look at the , a lot of people are the polling, a lot of people are really divided on. medical professionals going strike, particularly over christmas time . we're continually told the nhs is under complete breaking point. i mean, for as long as i can remember, every christmas has been the that's going to break the nhs and it will be very interesting if the one that does break the nhs is the one when everyone goes on strike. yeah well that's it. i mean maybe are breaking the nhs and one looks at amount of one one looks at the amount of funding 39% real terms funding a 39% real terms increase in funding since 2010 and need major political party willing to back down on any of this stuff or of the prices. i mean labour literally just
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saying well we talked you we told you which i mean it's nothing it means absolutely. now for and i think with the paramedic of things as well ambulance workers call in general peter you know it's one thing someone already being in hospital and may be taking a bit longer for a feeding tube to get replaced. that's terrible. don't get me wrong. a routine being cancelled. is cancelled. yeah, that is shocking. chemotherapy being delayed not shocking, delayed. not shocking, but someone lying at the bottom of that stairs in a pool of blood and an ambulance. being and an ambulance. not being able to that. think is more to get that. i think is more deadly. yeah, i couldn't agree more because i think it feeds into the kind of fear narrative because when you ring 999, eight, seven for good reasons, it's like something really great just suddenly just happened. you're suddenly you're situation where you you're in a situation where you need help you also need need help and you also need reassurance and you know reassurance and you don't know whether somebody going to turn up. i mean , i read report just up. i mean, i read a report just the day that there the other day that there was over at one point over 600 people at one point throughout manchester throughout greater manchester waiting . this is a waiting a paramedic. this is a real problem and i have to admit i do have some sympathy with the
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paramedics over this one, because this is about a long time coming. been an time coming. this has been an issue, kicked into the issue, has been kicked into the long politics long grass in british politics fashion, is huge problem fashion, which is huge problem that to stop getting act that we have to stop getting act we have to fix. but the one thing i will say though is when we start talking about money being spread the nhs, being spread to the nhs, whatever always whenever a whatever we always whenever a government says investing, that means, well, we never means, well, one thing we never ask is, well , means, well, one thing we never ask is, well, what means, well, one thing we never ask is, well , what spent the ask is, well, what we spent the money did actually work. money on, we did actually work. well, is theresa. yeah, well, this is theresa. yeah, this exactly it, peter, because it's that kind of thing. it's a little bit like, well, a lot of people saying about ukraine, which is like, okay we're lobbing a load of money to ukraine. know is ukraine. do we know where is actually going no so than actually going and no so than ever can justifiably say ever people can justifiably say that when you that about our nhs. when you look at the bottom of cash, look at the bottom bits of cash, there there is just there is no there is just credible evidence that if we love the load in money towards the it would solve of the that it would solve any of the that it would solve any of the issues. people are the issues. what people are saying now, peter, i too saying right now, peter, i too have sympathy with the striking of the workers just for me, i just really don't think it's
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morally right. but then people would question my morals about other stuff. so fair enough. we're all different people, all different yeah, what different people, but yeah, what is your point of sympathy ? it is your point of sympathy? it comes paramedics and comes to the paramedics and ambulance workers going on strike. think , i the one strike. i think, i think the one thing that have to remember thing that we have to remember is that paramedics also are subjected quite level subjected to quite serious level of and you know, there was of abuse and you know, there was a couple of cases a couple of years know, paramedics years ago, you know, paramedics being attacked the and being attacked, the streets and things and they got things like that. and they got very from the very little support from the government . and i just government there. and i just took on a real kind of personal level. i do think that paramedics are the first people that you see in a very and at a situation you need help in. and we be giving everything we can to support them. but i do agree with kind what you're saying, that it with kind what you're saying, thatitis with kind what you're saying, that it is a moral issue that. should they really be going on strike thing? i do expect to see after all of this is eventually endedis after all of this is eventually ended is will we allow paramedics or even nurses? well, this is the thing isn't strike any more . well, this is the any more. well, this is the other thing. and peter, this the natural this which
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natural conclusion to this which is actually, if you are is that actually, if you are demanding something unaffordable thatis demanding something unaffordable that is deemed to be on affordable anyway and people are dying, then does the not have the duty to ban from going on strike. i mean, we all wanted people to climb down quicker on extinction rebellion and just stop oil and all those things, insulate or whatever that called and maybe and i hate to say , but and maybe and i hate to say, but maybe nurses and other paramedics is a horrible thing to say should be in same bracket as was if people are dying should be allowed to do it. i think i completely agree with you because there was a great piece in the times today from the chief of staff of the army saying you can't keep calling on is time goes wrong, which is every time goes wrong, which is every time goes wrong, which is of everything is another aspect of everything that's on. it'sjust that's going on. it's just not being talked is, you know, being talked about is, you know, our are stretched our armed forces are stretched out pretty as they are out as pretty much as they are now, know, and then they now, you know, and then they said, stop doing this said, we have to stop doing this stuff. know, i a stuff. you know, i remember a couple years when we had the couple of years when we had the fire, the fire brigade went on strike and we had the goddesses,
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as it, that, you as they would call it, that, you know, this argument know, this this argument came off as say. now, off again, as you say. now, look, are first look, these are first responders, are people responders, these are people that need in a time crisis. that need in a time of crisis. is it is it right? and i do think that trade unions, if think that the trade unions, if they careful here, going they are careful here, are going to the debate . to price out of the debate. yeah, i think you're right. i think, you know, actually, seriously, there has to be some good looking when it comes to these unions as. well, they're talking day about. oh, the talking all day about. oh, the conservative policy. the ones conservative policy. be the ones who are demonising all people. i mean, i suppose. well, mean, finally, i suppose. well, people media demonising people in the media demonising the of stuff. but the nurses and all of stuff. but i would argue that i mean, i would argue that in some cases demonising some cases that demonising themselves allowing themselves by virtue of allowing people to die over christmas but they are facing thank you very much, peter barnes, who is a civil commentator, strategist and channel as well. and friend of channel as well. right. okay you are with me. patrick gb news coming right. okay you are with me. pat|richie gb news coming right. okay you are with me. pat|richie sunakib news coming right. okay you are with me. pat|richie sunak hasews coming right. okay you are with me. pat|richie sunak has told :oming right. okay you are with me. pat|richie sunak has told fellow up. richie sunak has told fellow leaders be no peace leaders there can be no peace talks russia it is talks with russia until it is withdrawn from conquered regions of urged them to of ukraine as he urged them to up supply of air defence up their supply of air defence systems . war nation talking systems. war torn nation talking up money . you you'd up money. if you think you'd like a bit of an audit as
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like a little bit of an audit as to where all of our money to ukraine is going good luck ukraine is going well good luck you might be getting in later this prime minister you might be getting in later this estonian prime minister and the estonian prime minister are set to meet nato troops serving the western flank. serving on the western flank. i'll be back in moment. don't i'll be back in a moment. don't go anywhere .
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the top stories from the gb newsroom this evening . the home newsroom this evening. the home secretary says she is committed to the rwanda deportation plan after the high court ruled today that it after the high court ruled today thatitis after the high court ruled today that it is lawful . speaking in that it is lawful. speaking in the house of commons suella , the house of commons suella, braverman said the plan is humane and a practical alternative . those who come to alternative. those who come to the uk through dangerous and illegal routes. that's after the royal courts of justice ruled . royal courts of justice ruled. the policy was consistent with the international refugee convention . charities have vowed convention. charities have vowed to appeal today's decision, claiming the east african lacks
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a fair and, efficient asylum system. the home secretary says we cannot tolerate people coming here illegally being relocated to rwanda is not a punishment . to rwanda is not a punishment. but in an innovative way of addressing a major problem to redress the imbalance between illegal and legal migration routes . it will also ensure that routes. it will also ensure that those in genuine need of international protection are with it. in rwanda . 23 year old with it. in rwanda. 23 year old gabriel hutchinson has become the second woman to die following a crowd crash outside the o2 brixton last thursday . the o2 brixton last thursday. the force also said three women who were critically injured were all in the foyer of the building . third woman remains in . a third woman remains in hospital in a critical condition and a student has been charged with threatening behaviour after eggs thrown at the king during a trip to york last month. 23 year old patrick thelwell has been charged with threatening behaviour under the public order
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act . he's behaviour under the public order act. he's going to behaviour under the public order act . he's going to appear at act. he's going to appear at york magistrates next month and the american actress amber has settled her defamation case with her former husband , johnny depp. her former husband, johnny depp. comes after she was sued by mr. depp over a 2018 article she wrote for the washington post about her experiences as domestic abuse survivor. in a social media statement , ms. domestic abuse survivor. in a social media statement, ms. had called the decision to settle debt very difficult, saying she'd lost faith in the american legal . those are your headlines. legal. those are your headlines. you're up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio with gb news. don't go anywhere. we'll be back in just a moment. welcome back, everybody . patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news right now . sunak christys here on gb news right now. sunak has landed in tallinn on his whistle stop store of the baltic states filled with baltic outside the village. but even
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more so now, for soon. he spent the morning at joint the morning at the joint expeditionary force , where he expeditionary force, where he said that this is very heartening to have a group of partners , allies who think so partners, allies who think so alike on matters connected to security, as war and, security, such as the war and, ukraine. now the prime minister's agenda. the afternoon includes meeting and nato troops serving on the alliance's eastern flank alongside his estonian counterpart , kaja estonian counterpart, kaja kallas. so offers good correspondence. olivia utley joins me live in the studio right now. so what's actually going on here? that is rishi sunak just posturing . the world sunak just posturing. the world stage, you know, being like a pawn shop. boris, how's it going? well, i think what he would say is that he's shoring up the northern european alliance here. and he is making sure that these baltic states take commitments to ukraine seriously . take commitments to ukraine seriously. he's trying to lead by example. he's promised another chunk of funding and missile aid to ukraine is sort
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of hoping that others will follow in his footsteps . follow in his footsteps. apparently behind the scenes is very interesting by networks of bbc news. nice, i think apparently the scenes all isn't quite how it looks and actually rishi sunak is a bit more cautious about britain, how ukraine is spending the money and aid to it by britain and allies . and he wants some sort allies. and he wants some sort of goldman sachs dashboard was the phrase he probably won't a when it comes to exactly how much money is being spent and where it's going. well, yeah. so there are two schools of thought in government and apparently there's a pretty high level split going on. those who believe that. yes, people who brits can't to turn the brits here who can't to turn the heating on don't just want blank checks to be written over over again to ukraine. on the hand, there are those who think that is the moment britain to is the moment for britain to take to lead from the take a stand to lead from the front and to show that we're serious about european defence and to show that you even outside the eu perhaps because
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we're outside the eu, britain can be a real global and to do that we have to be sort of very magnanimous. take a boris johnson, nothing's too much . so johnson, nothing's too much. so very high level splits here in scenes rishi sunak is in the more cautious as it were. yeah indeed hundred% and now i believe there's a little of other breaking going on. so this number ten, if confirmed, the government is suing a ppe , is government is suing a ppe, is that right? just talk to me about case. yes. so the government suing mediapro, which is the ppe firm, which michelle mone recommended to the government was used by the government's vip scheme for getting ppe in. right. and the contracts according to the government wasn't fulfilled as a quality was a lot of it was unusable. lots it was unusable is what the government is arguing med pro is saying that the government just massively over audit its ppe and couldn't it because they had far too much and if there wasn't enough covid
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we needed more covid. so the government is far left with the unleashes earlier. how do you it and in short basically the government is going on the offensive here it's been on the back foot for quite a long time about michelle mone but in saying hey no we weren't happy either with with the ppe that was provided via michelle mone it's sort of trying to mitigate against what are going to be continuous attacks by labour that know the chum ocracy ended in billions of pounds of waste of taxpayer money. so it's sort of taxpayer money. so it's sort of a getting off the back foot and onto the front foot for the government. well, it's going to be interesting to try to take legal action there. michelle mone although i believe mone although i don't believe she's maybe directly because this to be this legal action have to be very careful what i say, because no doubt would directly take no doubt she would directly take legal this. but legal action if i got this. but she seems like a bit of a bulldog and so i would imagine it's kick a little it's going to kick off a little bit of blue on blue may bit of blue on blue action. may ever go. you, olivia. as
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ever go. thank you, olivia. as a political reporter. right. okay. so now the rwanda so now back the rwanda partnership it is a partnership because is it is a human and practical alternative for those who come here through dangerous, illegal or necessary routes. not me routes. now, that's not me saying it's nigel farage say saying it's not nigel farage say now that's according to home secretary. so the president. and crucially now the high court. so the home secretary spoke in the house this afternoon house of commons this afternoon welcoming the high court decision policy is decision that the policy is lawful and arguing that being relocated to is not a punishment . can i just say, you know i've had a bit of time now to digest this. i mean, the problem was speaking literally live on this show about an hour and a half ago. and we heard what she had to though, that cooper to say, though, that cooper popped to say, though, that cooper popped we hear she popped as well. we hear what she had to say. i am increasingly becoming the mindset that the whole a bit of a whole rwanda is just a bit of a smokescreen we might smokescreen that, yeah, we might end sending a couple of end up sending a couple of hundred people rwanda and hundred people to rwanda and that that will look like a massive. am unconvinced massive. but i am unconvinced that it will make make a blind bit of difference when it comes to being a deterrent. and unless
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it is deterrent and it is not cost effective and some people would argue, well, actually, what's it doing? it just what's it doing? could it just be an white elephant? be kind of an white elephant? but would anyway . your but they would go anyway. your views be welcome this. views will be welcome on this. you make my mind up. you can help me make my mind up. i was speaking now to immigration lawyer luke immigration lawyerjawad luke miall. so much miall. joey, thank you so much for making time for us. okay. so look legal bit first, is look the legal bit first, it is now lawful. people on a now lawful. the people on a plane who've come illegally plane who've come here illegally and send interior wanted it for processing and it is also safe . processing and it is also safe. so we can put all of that to bed.can so we can put all of that to bed. can we? well, sort it's not completely put to bed because that may be a further appeal in relation the original decision but also the high accepted that the policy is not unlawful . the policy is not unlawful. however, the way in which operated could be unlawful, which is why of the claims that were brought, eight people have to have their cases read considered because the court that in those eight cases the home office had not acted
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properly . okay. and i think but properly. okay. and i think but i think that's absolutely fair enough. right. i mean, even most ardent person. well, that's true, actually. the vast majority , most ardent people who majority, most ardent people who are desperate see flights to rwanda to take off or other countries, say, desperate countries, may i say, desperate to across africa. to see people across africa. well, think know, vast well, i think you know, the vast majority people would make well, i think you know, the vast majcase. people would make well, i think you know, the vast majcase. well, ple would make well, i think you know, the vast majcase. well, ate would make well, i think you know, the vast majcase. well, at least.d make well, i think you know, the vast majcase. well, at least you ake the case. well, at least you hear the case properly or , look hear the case properly or, look into the individual probably before them plane. before you put them on a plane. right. so think that was right. so i think that was enough. you know, was enough. and, you know, it was a new that is being new policy that is being enacted. maybe can there enacted. maybe you can say there was wiggle room for was enough wiggle room that for that a of hours as that to a couple of hours as long as they got sorted. one thing that was interesting was i was and i'm hoping you can explain me. i was explain this to me. i was talking to a barrister earlier explain this to me. i was taland to a barrister earlier explain this to me. i was taland she| barrister earlier explain this to me. i was taland she said'ister earlier explain this to me. i was taland she said somethingr explain this to me. i was taland she said something to me on and she said something to me care now we're care for calais? now we're deemed not have standing. deemed to not have standing. what does that well, what does that mean? well, because this case that's because this a case that's challenging from the challenging policy from the government issue well, government, the issue is, well, who's entitled to challenge that policy? is it tom, dick, harry or calais or , anybody else for or calais or, anybody else for that matter? and the is no. if you're directly affected by the
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decision , then it's quite right decision, then it's quite right that you should have standing to bnng that you should have standing to bring a claim. but if you're an interested party, for example, a charitable organisation or indeed one of the civil service unions were also declared not to have standing you have to have a direct directly be affected by the outcome in order for you to be able to bring a challenge in court because bringing a challenging court is expensive and it takes a lot of time for the court judges do not want to be hearing hypothetical be hearing just hypothetical case. now this is interesting this is really interesting because so for example look there was a hotel near where i live holiday inn that's now of these hotels and my understanding is that careful calais were involved that one of the things that they will be doing is maybe giving a little bit of legal advice or whatever, we don't know. but now it would be that unless you are unless i am , who walks up here on a boat am, who walks up here on a boat across ? the channel. unless it's across? the channel. unless it's me . charity couldn't represent
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me. charity couldn't represent me. charity couldn't represent me in court on my behalf. it would have to be me. and then the argument would be, well, i haven't got the funds. the time for that. well i wouldn't be quite as absolute about as i certainly agree that probably a charitable organisation would be in difficulty saying that they had legal . in difficulty saying that they had legal. but for example, a family member who might be directly affected or more closely affected may well have standing a different charity thatis standing a different charity that is involved. for example , that is involved. for example, that is involved. for example, that person's day to day care or medical treatment might be to have legal standing , but it's have legal standing, but it's not so it's not an absolute right. yeah i think that's potentially quite big. i mean , potentially quite big. i mean, there are a few big chunks in this fact that, yes, it is overall on balance, it's a win for the government, i think. right, isn't it? because they're saying, yeah, it's definitely a win for the government. yeah definitely is. definitely win. right. | definitely is. definitely win. right. i mean, i suppose the one of the big things that people would is, i mean, which is would say is, i mean, which is what that group is going off,
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what if that group is going off, which it value for money which is, is it value for money and ed? and for me, if and is it ed? and for me, if just only becomes for just only becomes value for money, is indeed actually money, if it is indeed actually a deterrent and with the best in the as i understand it, the world, as i understand it, rwanda to take a couple rwanda is going to take a couple of hundred or maybe a couple of thousand people. i mean it equates like % or equates to something like% or 0.5% of the people coming across the channel not remain as the channel i'm not i remain as to how much of a deterrent it is. i don't know. what do you think? i'm not sure. it's much of a deterrent because individuals that are trying to come to the uk in order to claim asylum are probably not following news or the bbc or following gb news or the bbc or channel 4 or anybody else for that matter . so they're not that matter. so they're not going to be aware of the legal implications of this judgement, and probably going to and it's probably not going to affect strategy of affect the business strategy of trafficking gangs. they're probably not to be saying, well, by the way, here's a health warning, you might not make it because might be sent to rwanda. so i don't think i'll have that sort of deterrent effect. exactly. and really, rishi sunak's with line
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sunak's come out with a line about, the idea that by this time year were going to have time year we were going to have cleared asylum backlog. cleared the asylum backlog. well, apparently 98% of the small boat crossings far not small boat crossings so far not been will be been processed. he will be hoping this some way can hoping that this in some way can speed because. now, speed up because. now, potentially we might have somewhere send them. somewhere to send them. we'll have it all pans out. have to see how it all pans out. look to be the show. thank look to be on the show. thank you very much. we monica, you very much. we look monica, who is immigration lawyer who is an immigration lawyer reacting is reacting to how big news is broken which the broken today, which is the amount of deportations came is legal, think good legal, which i think is good stuff . whether one will be stuff. whether one will be a deterrent is another thing. i'll be bit later be getting stuck in a bit later on. but stay with us because far should free speech go should? i be say, example , be allowed to say, for example, that fantasise about meghan that i fantasise about meghan markle stripped naked and paraded through the streets and covered in human excrement. what is a good time? i didn't because if i that, i'd be in if i had that, i'd be in trouble. jeremy did though, and he is now in trouble. how do you feel about all of that? is it free speech? is gone too far? free speech? is he gone too far? but back in a moments .
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yes. welcome back everybody in true patrick christys fashion. i have massively screwed up my . have massively screwed up my. which means we're now going to do something . i was called do something. i was called killing two birds one stone killing two birds with one stone where seamlessly two stories where we seamlessly two stories into one and make it look like we planned it all along. the dust has only just settled on harry bombshell harry and meghan's bombshell series, back this series, but they're back this afternoon. a trailer has released for a new documentary series lead , series called live to lead, which to be presented which is going to be presented by the duke and duchess of sussex and apparently sussex and is apparently inspired mandela . of inspired by nelson mandela. of course, course, is course, is of course, is inspired by nelson mandela. we'll be going to be we'll also be going to be talking about jeremy clarkson's comments . but have a look comments. but let's have a look at sickening trailer this at this sickening trailer this inspired by nelson mandela who once said what counts in life is not the fact that we have lived . it is what difference we have made to the lives of others that
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will determine the significance of the life we lead . when you of the life we lead. when you it's people who have made brave choices to fight for change and to become leaders and giving inspiration to the rest of to live, to lead that . oh to live live, to lead that. oh to live lead. i mean, really just not in our lives to just be led on a short leash doesn't mean how can you say this is inspired by nelson and i make no reference to mandela. this is inspired by jfk . all right. meanwhile jeremy jfk. all right. meanwhile jeremy clarkson has said that he is horrified after causing so much hurt in a column that he wrote in the sun about meghan markle. more than 12,000 complaints were made to press regulator made to the press regulator after, wrote in after, clarkson wrote in friday's hated friday's newspaper that he hated meghan. on a cellular level . meghan. on a cellular level. let's get more on this now from
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entertainment. let's get more on this now from entertainment . rebecca twomey entertainment. rebecca twomey and columnist and writer josephine bartlett. thank you very much , rebecca. i believe very much, rebecca. i believe that you are more on the harry and meghan stuff, so i'm going to throw it your way first said. so harry and meghan have got name, the way, welcome to name, by the way, welcome to this inspired by this show, which was inspired by luther they are all doing luther king. they are all doing their own thing that's inspired by me by nelson mandela. saw me through it. oh just happy that this time they're not going to be slating the royals. isn't everyone just breathing a massive sigh relief that the massive sigh of relief that the royal relax a bit? royal family relax a little bit? i think brits can relax i think as brits can relax a little bit. and actually the focus finally good focus on finally some good causes. blame harry causes. you cannot blame harry and now for doing and meghan. now for doing something there's no something different. there's no they're doing something they're actually doing something positive they're celebrating they're actually doing something posthez they're celebrating they're actually doing something posthe people. re celebrating they're actually doing something posthe people. they're rating they're actually doing something posthe people. they're going to all the people. they're going to feature a whole series of interviews with characters who are history are changing history whatever you them is there. you think of them is there. you've got bader ginsburg, you've got a whole collection of people that i've interviewed and once the focus isn't on them and they're shifting the focus to other and where they other people and where they could think we wouldn't be talking this netflix
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talking about this netflix series maguire won talking about this netflix serso maguire won talking about this netflix serso that maguire won talking about this netflix serso that using aguire won talking about this netflix serso that using theire won talking about this netflix serso that using their fame,non it. so that using their fame, i think very good purpose. yeah i mean, some would say that they are know shamelessly trying are you know shamelessly trying to of to surround themselves a load of leftie gooders but well let leftie do gooders but well let them have it well let them have it rebecca and it all returns here rebecca and i'll just love over to josephine and josephine. meghan markle is in another reason in the news for another reason now, because jeremy now, and that's because jeremy clarkson he hates clarkson decided to say he hates on not in the on a cellular level, not in the same way hate nicholas same way they hate nicholas sturgeon was the sturgeon rose west was the comment and also essentially that he dreams of her being stripped naked and led through the streets of prison walls . the streets of prison walls. people throw faeces after your views . oh, it's hard to tell views. oh, it's hard to tell whether or not we've lost josephine there, but i think we frozen a position that made it look as though she was still there and. okay, rebecca i'll throw it back to you. the column is josephine brown. josephine you're back towards me about what you think about jeremy clarkson's column. can you hear me? no. okay this is a hard watch watch . okay. we're going
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watch watch. okay. we're going to go through again. sorry guys, but we appear to have lost you. rebecca help us out. you this college? i mean classes. call him. he's out to apologise. what's going on? don't really think much of apology . think it's much of an apology. think upset by the think he's more upset by the outcry and. has his hand outcry and. has had his hand twisted to because it's coming across incredibly such a mistake. and it just was a terrible, clumsy, awful use of wording. and you know, i slightly surprise that he's done that as a seasoned journalist. i do in the freedom of do believe in the freedom of speech. you're to speech. and if you're going to say something it and say something on it and i thought said otherwise, set thought you said otherwise, set it don't suddenly back it up but don't suddenly back and that what you did and realise that what you did wasn't offence wasn't going to cause offence because i he knew using because i think he knew using rose west even in sentence he knew what he was doing, you know what looked like . me and what that looked like. me and i read last now because i saw read it last now because i saw noficed read it last now because i saw noticed a bit of a kerfuffle on twitter and i was at dinner and i thought, you know, be i thought, you know, i'd be incredibly get my phone incredibly rude and get my phone out. the courses. out. joe enjoy the main courses. and i having look and and i was having look drive and that looked like a column that to me looked like a column written by a bloke that either maybe out a couple glasses or maybe out a couple of glasses or had maybe got couple of glasses
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of red the night before . it of red the night before. and it was draft. it was was like a first draft. it was something that you would knock out what you think and she's controversial and then maybe it'll be toned down a bit and then version would go out. it looked like a of looked to me like a bit of a rough copy and. i suspect that he wasn't expecting this amount of probably i can of backlash. probably i can see why think darcy maybe didn't why i think darcy maybe didn't give it much thought at the give it too much thought at the time. it should hit him, but that makes me well, is it that for me makes me well, is it not follow the editor not really the follow the editor not really the follow the editor not because because, not jeremy. because because, rightly or wrongly, a of rightly or wrongly, a lot of people do think exactly what jeremy actually wrote jeremy clarkson actually wrote down. the question mark is whether that should have whether or not that should have been i think think been published. i think i think the question is the people that seem to be offended . all of seem to be offended. all of these things he wrote harry these things he wrote like harry and don't watch their and meghan don't watch their netflix don't don't netflix series. don't in don't read article and, don't get read the article and, don't get wind of it. you were going to wind of it. if you were going to be offended by someone like clarkson, who has never denied of that he you know , of views that he has, you know, the news type that the sort of news type that that's like that's publish it. if you like that's publish it. if you like that newspaper, buy it, that newspaper, don't buy it, don't read it, don't react to it
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don't read it, don't react to it don't be offended by it. i think the problem you know if the problem is that you know if people like something, people don't like something, they be offended they always want to be offended before happened. they before it's even happened. they don't sun newspaper , so don't like the sun newspaper, so they decide that they're going to i to buy anything that. i read. i mean, joe brand yeah. joe brown did about pouring battery did talk about pouring battery acid over and we've had various different comedian like nish kumar, for example who i think at the time was still at the bbc, was talking about bbc, who was talking about whether or not elderly brexit voters essentially should be allowed to live . you know, it's allowed to live. you know, it's not it's not uncommon is it for people to maybe say some some rather fruity things. but yes when it comes to jeremy clarkson, i mean, i read it. i thought it was all right, but i suppose i'm not the moral bastion of goodness in this world. i'm love rebecca. thank world. i'm i love rebecca. thank you much. down you very, very much. try me down at correspondent reacting at simon correspondent reacting to about got about to the i've just about got about 20 to everything 20 seconds to get everything i need know from michelle that need to know from michelle that right. not got time right. oh no we're not got time for that. sorry, michelle, i've cancelled appear to have cancelled and i appear to have glitter face from lovely glitter on my face from lovely christmas card. i've just got to say thank you for sandra
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say thank you for from sandra bay sir patrick you so bay who said sir patrick you so much yes two can send me much so yes you two can send me nice things at news. anyway, nice things at gb news. anyway, there coming it is there we go. coming it is michelle dewberry with dewbs& co but it's your but before that it's your weather here with weather alex deakin. here with your latest weather update from the probably the met office, you've probably noficed the met office, you've probably noticed a milder out there. noticed it's a milder out there. it's also and windier than . it it's also and windier than. it has been in wet and windy weather usually the low pressure is nearby. we've got a big one here and it is spur spiralling round, gusty winds and fronts bringing areas of rain across pretty much all parts . certainly pretty much all parts. certainly see some heavier rain overnight across parts of the south. we do have office yellow warning have a met office yellow warning in covering parts of in place covering parts of southern but much the southern england, but much the midlands eastern england midlands and eastern england also stay overcast through the night with rain at times. the same goes south wales further north, drier conditions as blustery showers in the far northwest. but we'll see some clear over. northern clear spells over. northern england, that england, parts of scotland that will to drop will allow temperatures to drop actually could even a touch actually could even be a touch of frost in rural areas. but with cloud and the rain with all the cloud and the rain across to very mild across southeast to a very mild night here west coast parts of
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eastern england tomorrow, but pretty quickly that should be out of the way. and then most places looking dry and bright on tuesday, a few showers for north northwest england's plenty of showers across highlands of showers across the highlands of scotland. on the hills and scotland. snow on the hills and gusty here . elsewhere, the gusty winds here. elsewhere, the winds than today. but winds lighter than today. but a sunshine feeling pleasant enough. temperatures touch above average lower today, but obviously much than they were for most of last week , getting for most of last week, getting up to 9 to 11 celsius through tuesday evening. i think we'll see one or two showers continuing . so the heavy ones continuing. so the heavy ones across the northwest scotland. but then later on the night, we're looking at some more wet weather pushing in across england wales, perhaps southern scotland to uncertainty about when that will clear air. but it should scoot away eastern parts of england during then brightest guys to the west. but more showers on wednesday for, northern england, wales and certainly showers packing in across scotland and northern ireland throughout the day . a ireland throughout the day. a blustery here as well.
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