t0 gb news. now nurses are out on strike and ambulance workers are set to tomorrow as well. the latest lines on this so that heart attack patients might not get an ambulance, a military personnel driving those ambulances won't be able to break the speed limit or run red lights, apparently leaving some to what's the point .7 i've to argue what's the point.7 i've got employees, medical professionals and, viewers with sick relatives , all outlining sick relatives, all outlining own concerns and potentially some solutions as well.

yesterday there was little ray of that, the rwanda deportation flights might actually take off, but the european court still block it. should we just ignore foreign judges .7 64 rampage foreign judges? 64 rampage reports have now punch up over jeremy clarkson's column on meghan markle. shouldn't employees be more concerned ? employees be more concerned? just difficult trashing the monarchy than a slightly portly car enthusiast that he hates? someone that a lot of people anyway? i want your views today . you angry about ambulance strikes tv viewers . gbnews.uk strikes tv viewers. gbnews.uk and. why should we ignore foreign judges if they decide to block rwanda flies ? gb news. gb block rwanda flies? gb news. gb news dot uk. all that coming your way. i'm much, much better. but before the latest headlines . a v but before the latest headlines. a v it's coming up to 3:02. i'm rosie wright . let's get you up rosie wright. let's get you up to date on paye. we have an independent process . we have independent process. we have accepted that in full. and of

course that comes on top of the extra priorities ation of the nhs last year. but we also alongside that need focus on patients. we need to focus on those pandemic waiting lists , those pandemic waiting lists, get those waiting lists and why we've invested the extra point 6 billion over the next two years. so we priority sized the nhs and social in the autumn statement . social in the autumn statement. at a time of difficulty for the economy because we recognise we need to get those things down well , that's the health well, that's the health secretary steve barclay talking about strike action . portsmouth about strike action. portsmouth hospitals university trustees declared critical incident, saying it's emergency department is full of patients . it's got is full of patients. it's got limited space to treat those with life threatening conditions and it adds an injury story that does thousands of nurses in england, northern ireland and wales walk for the second time in under a week. the royal college of nursing has warned the action could go for on six months unless an agreement can reached. they've been calling for an above 5% inflation pay

rise. government said that is unaffordable. well, the nurses nursing associate victoria busk is at a picket line in birmingham. she nurses will continue to shout until they're heard. i to say to the prime minister this morning please step in now and do the decent thing on behalf of every patient and member of the public of this country and right across the united kingdom . but please do united kingdom. but please do the decent also for the nursing staff get right to table and start talk to me on their behalf . that's the only respectful and decent thing to do. and let's bnng decent thing to do. and let's bring these strikes to a conclusion by the end of this week . well, today's action by week. well, today's action by the nurses comes ahead of a strike by ambulance planned for tomorrow. north, east, south—east coast. and the of england feel like that's what's going to have to happen is that we are just to have to completely work out at the same time leave no staff to man the wards and force those above to do the care and do we have to do? he said, i see what it's

like and maybe then we'll get some attention . we'll get some some attention. we'll get some support . the gmb national support. the gmb national secretary, rachel harrison, says its members are pleading the government to do something in some other news now. the ukrainian president visited troops fighting russian forces on the front line. volodymyr zelenskyy met military personnel and handed out awards to soldiers. on his visit to back months in the east of the country. a city that seen some of the heaviest fighting in recent weeks. thanked his forces for their courage, resilience . for their courage, resilience. and now tens of thousands people in argentina are waiting to welcome their world cup winners home. i think we can show you some live from buenos aries where. local media is estimating a crowd of around 100,000 people has gathered to greet the team . has gathered to greet the team. the capital's been celebrating sunday's thrilling final against defending champions france . you defending champions france. you now up to date on gb news. we'll bnng now up to date on gb news. we'll bring you more across the hour

as it happens . now back to as it happens. now back to patrick . patrick. yes, hello . you are watching and yes, hello. you are watching and listening to me, patrick christys here on gb news, our top story, thousands of nurses in england, wales and northern ireland are staging a second day of strike action over . ireland are staging a second day of strike action over. nhs ireland are staging a second day of strike action over . nhs staff of strike action over. nhs staff are still providing urgent care but routine services are being disrupted due to the walkout. health secretary barclay's meeting unions this afternoon to discuss preparation for tomorrow's ambulance . now it's tomorrow's ambulance. now it's understood that he won't be discussing pay. earlier he did say that health care workers have been over above other workers with public sector pay a share when public sector workers face they fees and we prioritise the nhs with an extra 3% last yeah the nhs with an extra 3% last

year. in addition to accepting the recommendations full this yeah the recommendations full this year. but we also need to invest more in the services to patients. we recognise significant backlogs as consequence of the pandemic . lot consequence of the pandemic. lot of your viewers who will be waiting for operations is important we get the investment in the new diagnostics . we've in the new diagnostics. we've already announced another 19 on top of the 91 new diagnostics . top of the 91 new diagnostics. and so we're investing in new surgical hubs . so we have more surgical hubs. so we have more resilience in getting those operations a waiting list. we're happy to talk and we've been engaging. we've had some having a further meeting where we're having the further meeting with three today . i having the further meeting with three today. i had three trade unions today. i had discussions another union discussions with another union yesterday, so we're to talk, we're engaging with the trade unions on pay . we have an unions on pay. we have an independent process and we have accepted that in full and of course, that comes on top of the extra prioritisation of the nhs last year . okay. well it's last year. okay. well it's medical strikes as a whole that we're hanging show on today. we've got the nurses and we've

got ambulance workers well got ambulance workers as well throughout of this throughout the course of this show be having for show we'll be having debates for , people, , various different people, employees unions, members of the pubuc. employees unions, members of the public . well, people just like public. well, people just like you. and you can get touch with us email address that us on that email address that i keep but it's keep banging on about, but it's because love, to hear from you because i love, to hear from you gives a news don't uk as to gives a gb news don't uk as to whether not think they all whether not you think they all deserve rise. you deserve a pay rise. you concerned you've sick concerned maybe you've got sick relatives course of relatives over the course of this christmas and you're worried getting an worried about the not getting an ambulance. also the medical line on line as ? well, on the military line as? well, the military line is a big one because it out that the because it turns out that the military who going military personnel who are going to our to involved in driving our ambulances and slugging it out got won't be able to break the speed limit red lights. speed limit over on red lights. they put blue they might not even put blue lights. what's lights. so really, what's the point sunak is point on that? risky sunak is appearing mps appearing before senior mps right what's the liaison right now. what's the liaison committee? is expected is committee? what is expected is it a grilling. so we have a it gets a grilling. so we have a little listen listen and those are all concrete steps in just the last seven or eight weeks that we have taken, which i think demonstrates my commitment to stand up to china at all

countries to do so. so where that takes us back to a policy of robust. how does all on china, how much that keep you up at night when rolling your ability to be robust rather than pragmatic. yeah i mean that the actions that i just outlined were robust actions. we talked about resilience and that's why we did think it was appropriate for the newport and newport way for the newport and newport way for that transaction to go ahead planned. we've blocked it. so i went removed the surveillance technology from the hmg is that it's why do we cgi from the sci fi project those are examples of robust action to protect ourselves against economic and other threats . all i'd say is other threats. all i'd say is it's also important our approach to china is aligned. it's also important our approach to china is aligned . our closest to china is aligned. our closest allies, having discussed it with president biden and the prime minister's of japan and australia, i believe our policy is aligned and there will be many things that . we do have to many things that. we do have to have a dialogue with china, whether that's public whether that's global public health climate change the health climate change or the macro economy. it makes sense to

do that and the refined nature . do that and the refined nature. we seem to have a real issue tying down our policy and it comes to our relationship with turkey they've been important turkey they've been an important conduh and conduit between europe and russia the last months, russia over the last few months, but since 2019, erdogan has carried out attack after attack on the kurdish people , now on the kurdish people, now claiming going to in claiming he's going to roll in the tanks to eradicate them. this could jeopardise our success against daesh and be see atrocities prevention en masse. so what is hmg doing under your leadership ? step in to deter leadership? step in to deter turkey undertaking these heinous attacks ? i spoken to president attacks? i spoken to president both at the national summit we were both at, but also bilaterally as well. we'll continue to use our offices to encourage turkey to do the right thing and. most recently, we work constructively with them on ensuring that grains degrade black sea deal was renewed and that was something may help play a part in. thank you. a couple of questions cook of my . it is of questions cook of my. it is of questions cook of my. it is of course astonishing that we allowed china to carry on doing what they were doing for so long

and. we're certainly i'm with one pleased with the direction the government's taking but coming back to russia this is the defence secretary made a statement this pointing out this is the 300th day of the war that was meant to take few days and has been militarily disastrous for russia. but are we underestimating their will? what do you make of willpower? because they putting everything into the fight the russian doctrine of total and victory at any cost seems to be very apparent and that's why it's that we continue to maintain and increase our support to ukraine and make sure that that support is effective in deterring further aggression and pushing them back from territory that they've already seized . and they've already seized. and that's what we will continue to do. how much is that as shared deeply as you with our european allies ? and that's why i was at allies? and that's why i was at the jet yesterday. that's ten countries, very like minded values, but particularly with regard the threat that russia poses and again, very strong

consensus about what we need to do next year , whether it's do next year, whether it's a specific types of military support needed, those are the types of things we discussed yesterday and those conversations more broadly as well. and the chair, if he was here, would be asking what's happened lessons document happened to the lessons document in the minister of defence , in the minister of defence, lessons on the ukraine conflict , particularly about replenishing almunia , which the replenishing almunia, which the defence secretary said will be replenished or being replenished. and of course the resilience of our munitions supply chains, which have turned out to be very threadbare . are out to be very threadbare. are we doing about that? it needs money all repent money, yes. and we all repent pushing our munitions. i think the defence secretary acknowledge as just acknowledged as well. but at the issue is less money than it is supply chain capacity in the short term. that is the challenge . i term. that is the challenge. i mean, that is a gating or limiting factor in our ability . limiting factor in our ability. get some of the support we'd like flowing ukraine, like to see flowing to ukraine, happening . but one thing is happening. but one thing is a point right beginning. we need to make sure that we get them

what they need, the priorities at the moment are air defence armoured vehicles and artillery and munitions the contract that we've just signed, and munitions the contract that we've just signed , £250 million we've just signed, £250 million will ensure that there's a supply of artillery next year , supply of artillery next year, but also on a monthly basis so ukraine can plan with certainty, which they haven't always been able to do because of the supply chain action that we've put in place will give certainty place will give that certainty and next year, which and reliability next year, which will be helpful . thank you, will be helpful. thank you, clive. that's for levelling up committee . thank you, chair committee. thank you, chair anthony. prime minister, i going to talk about the situation with ukrainian refugees in this country. i'm sure our thoughts this christmas will be with ukrainian guests and with the children who are going to be spending christmas in a country thinking of their loved ones back in ukraine also thanks back in ukraine and also thanks to the wonderful hosts who hosted 100,000 ukrainian individuals in our country, unfortunately , 3000 ukrainian unfortunately, 3000 ukrainian families have presented themselves as homeless in the last six months, and many of

those families, including children, will spend christmas in temporary accommodation . so in temporary accommodation. so thatis in temporary accommodation. so that is the liaison now really seeing that is going to be sitting there for a long time. it's going to be asked all sorts out, all sorts basically, we did dip it that a particular dip into it that a particular moment he appeared moment when he appeared to be being asked about china and solutions to the threat that they and also, course when it they and also, of course when it comes to us arming the ukrainians in what is going to continue to happen there. and i think interestingly well, think interestingly as well, asking about replenishing our own just in own stocks, you know, just in case he was quite robust on case and he was quite robust on all of that we'll dip in and out of that for you course of of that for you the course of the because at some point the show because at some point he's about he's going to be talking about something many of something that i think many of you as being bit you would regard as being a bit current, which is the nurses strike taking place today and the workers strikes the ambition is workers strikes taking of taking place tomorrow. those of you touch on you already getting in touch on this, to go this, we're going to go throughout the show. okay. to picket okay. very short picket lines. okay. very short labour picket line in birmingham. going to birmingham. we're also going to be members , the be going to on this members, the health select committee. we're also going be to military also going to be to military experts because the military is

going to be drafted to help going to be drafted in to help with ambulance strikes. with the ambulance strikes. okay. but not going to okay. but they're not going to be allowed to the speed limit. they're be allowed they're not going to be allowed run they might run red lights. they might not be blue on. be allowed to put the blue on. they're defibrillator they're getting defibrillator training, have training, although i would have thought pick thought the military would pick that up rather quickly. and people well, what's people are asking, well, what's the because latest the point, because the latest line that i'm seeing is that heart heart heart attack patients, a heart attack say, attack victims, i should say, cannot to actually cannot be guaranteed to actually get it's massive get an ambulance it's a massive concern and. also now various different hospital trusts declared pre—emptively across ethical situations. so they're they're already full. they already can't guarantee patient care . meanwhile, supposedly care. meanwhile, supposedly anyway, there's some meeting taking place to try to prevent ambulance strikes. it's all a bit, but we'll do our best to pick crucially, pick through it. crucially, i want views underpinning ups want your views underpinning ups and it. gb is a gb news and a lot of it. gb is a gb news don't like johnny says think don't uk like johnny says think this absolutely terrible this this is absolutely terrible this is happening. it will affect everyone. will and everyone. people will and patients will as a result of this. he that he's fully of this. he says that he's fully of paddy strike is well—deserved but believes that on the but he also believes that on the bnnk but he also believes that on the brink disaster he them to brink of disaster he them to give nurses a pay rise it's a

bit late for that in a sense for the strike that's taking place today. maybe people will be coming down on that. so let's call seven out one of call seven out to one of the picket is birmingham. picket lines. is birmingham. and we west we are joined by our west midlands carson. midlands reporter john carson. he's elizabeth he's outside queen elizabeth hosphal he's outside queen elizabeth hospital. going on? hospital. john, what's going on? you are . well, patrick the you are. well, patrick the picket line seemed to kind of now. there's been hundreds of nurses here supporting , this nurses here supporting, this strike, although from eight in this morning, they all arrived here and they are very feeling from talking to them. united in this front that they want pay and better working conditions as well. the word that keeps coming up to me and has kept coming up to me while i've been here today, retention? today, has it been retention? and umbrella comes and under that umbrella comes better but staffing better pay, but also staffing levels. of here do this levels. a lot of here do this job because . they like caring job because. they like caring for people they're worried for people and they're worried that lower staffing levels that with lower staffing levels on the they can't give the best care patients best care to patients in the best care to patients in the best care people . and the other care to people. and the other thing agency a lot thing was agency and a lot nurses this nurses are leaving this profession leaving the nhs nurses are leaving this profegraduateszaving the nhs

nurses are leaving this profegraduates are 1g the nhs nurses are leaving this profegraduates are not1e nhs nurses are leaving this profegraduates are not goings nurses are leaving this profegraduates are not going into new graduates are not going into the nhs they're going into agencies because they can get paid more. i'm speaking paid so much more. i'm speaking to few nurses on the to a few nurses here on the picket line today. here's few to a few nurses here on the pi

and need to just come together and sit down and discuss and i am sure most nurses aren't expecting to get 19% so that's what some here on the picket line have been saying here today. it's been quite a different atmosphere. we've had some we've had some congas , some we've had some congas, we've had dancing. they certainly up after lunch where they had some food in them. but that's to united that's just to show the united front here. and front that they've here. and these are that if it these nurses are that if it means they walk continue striking, they've got the mandate six now mandate for up to six months now of striking and the government doesn't table , start doesn't come to the table, start a these nurses , as a negotiation. these nurses, as much as they don't want to strike, strike for those strike, will strike for those better for that better better pay and for that better working . jack, thank you very working. jack, thank you very much. john constantine gb news is west midlands reporter bringing you report from a picket line that i many of you now will be quite angry at the idea that on earth is doing congress and dancing and a pittance of a bet after they had a bit of food in them. i've just had an email in there from kelly

says kelly's at a hospital waiting for an outpatients appointment what appointment right now. what kelly way of kelly says is no way of verifying course, is verifying this, of course, is that stood talking that for stood around talking don't that for stood around talking dont be that for stood around talking don't be working too don't appear to be working too hard view course. and hard that's view of course. and tony says i have cancer, i'm waiting transplant yesterday waiting a transplant yesterday they to say i'm they rang me to say i'm temporarily taken the temporarily being taken off the transplant today i rang my transplant list. today i rang my council nurse only for the phone transplant list. today i rang my co be il nurse only for the phone transplant list. today i rang my co be answered 1ly for the phone transplant list. today i rang my co be answered by for the phone transplant list. today i rang my co be answered by secretary. one transplant list. today i rang my co be answered by secretary. ise to be answered by secretary. is this due to the strike in barrow in furness? i'm not sure. tony unfortunately, i can't find that out but would out for you, but one would assume strike certainly assume that a strike certainly aren't . there's going to aren't helping. there's going to be a very much mixed bag on this . yes. okay, fair enough. so think this should be getting a pay think this should be getting a pay some people saying think this should be getting a pay it some people saying think this should be getting a pay it so be people saying think this should be getting a pay it sobe peo maybe saying think this should be getting a pay it so be peo maybe the ng that it may be just maybe the royal college of nursing actually into. hi that 19% actually went into. hi that 19% pay actually went into. hi that 19% pay suggestion pay offer or pay suggestion i should say really demand other people might and that people might call it. and that has resulted maybe the has resulted maybe in the government to wash government being able to wash their it the big one that their hands. it the big one that tomorrow is the ambulance workers facing a strike and that's across england and wales. they are set to walk out and that's ahead of action by three ambulance services declared.

critical incidents north east, south—east coast and east of england. ambulance took the decision thanks to 999 call volumes . hospital handover volumes. hospital handover delays already a critical situation when it comes to the strike action means that conditions judged to be serious but not a immediately life threatening may not be attended urgently by emergency teams. now, last year i can remember reporting on an old lady who was freezing on the pavement outside our house after slipping on some ice in the ambulance that took and hours and hours, upwards of 10 hours. category three conditions such as late stages of labour won't be prioritised at all. so you're giving birth in your own house? well, we have to get an ambulance. apparently but fear not. some people say, because. just correct me. if i'm wrong on this one, i was under the impression that the main of these drugs. right. want more money , okay. want more money. money, okay. want more money. but crucially , a patient safety but crucially, a patient safety won't massively impacted. won't be massively impacted. don't will be massively don't worry, will be massively impacted. won't have that much impacted. i won't have that much of the opposite of an impact. well the opposite is now, it? is happening now, isn't it? because the thick it

because we're in the thick of it and told the and we're being told the ambulance hospital ambulance services and hospital are critical are already declaring critical incidents got here incidents. i've got people here like tony who's already having is taken off a transplant list. for we've got people for example, we've got people like sinai in a waiting like kelly sinai in a waiting room with no one able to take you know, we've got doing a conga and dancing outside of hospital, but soldiers being hospital, but soldiers are being drafted to in outpatients. oh, and emerged that when and it's emerged that when driving, be able to break driving, they be able to break the speed limit to use blue or even actually, as as even actually, as far as we're aware, really aware, any patients. so really you might as well just by a medical book online at the moment read as quick as you can and you don't get ill in the coming. joining me now to discuss this is major general cross. he's a retired army officer. thank you very officer. jim, thank you very and keen your on this. keen to get your take on this. are at the fact are you frustrated at the fact that army are being that the army whilst are being drafted it doesn't seem all drafted in it doesn't seem all that able to do that much to be able to do anything. well i don't get involved in the politics and the niceties of who's slanging who about what, but i think they will make a difference. we've been involved in these sort of strikes over the years, throughout my career. things

like prisoner strikes and fire strikes , fuel strikes and so on. strikes, fuel strikes and so on. and of course we were involved in the covid up the nightingale hospitals so on but the hospitals and so on but the ambulance drivers will drivers from the royal logistical from mostly the royal logistical they're very capable drivers and. i don't think anybody ever suggested that they would be with the equivalent of the private the nhs ambulance drivers and so on. but for accidents, if somebody's going about your job with a slip and about yourjob with a slip and break a leg so on, then getting an ambulance driven by an army guy or indeed navy air force to pick them up and take to the nearest a&e is a perfectly sensible to do and i think a helpful thing to do. i just. it has to be said, the numbers we have got will not replace the numbers of ambulances that normally driven day by day. no in the nhs, i mean that's the thing. i suspect that the vast majority of, the british public, myself included assume myself included, assume that if an did up and it was an ambulance did up and it was being driven by a member of military personnel and our heroes, that would be able

heroes, that they would be able to blues in twos and to put the blues in twos on and run a light and get me there run a red light and get me there rather quickly. i suspect it puts. members the army, in a puts. members of the army, in a deeply situation deeply unfortunate situation they they probably deeply unfortunate situation they capacity they probably deeply unfortunate situation they capacity to they probably deeply unfortunate situation they capacity to theand obably deeply unfortunate situation they capacity to theand they ly have capacity to help and they might able to. yeah, might not be able to. yeah, i only heard that the these restrictions had been earlier on today. restrictions had been earlier on today . and again, i don't to go today. and again, i don't to go and say what you're saying. i don't know they're true or not. i do find a peculiar that they're not able to use the light. but again i don't light. yeah, but again i don't know what ambulances they're driving. i'm assuming that they're ambulances they're driving the ambulances that being by the that are not being used by the normal ambulance drivers as opposed to military. so i personally see a reason why they shouldn't be able to use lights like any other ambulance. and as we do, you know , a military we do, you know, a military environment. but again, i stress these in theory. this is not being used . the sort of being used. the sort of emergencies that you've be referring to, that people with attacks and strokes and so on. my attacks and strokes and so on. my understanding is that the ambulance service has said they will deal with those. but how are you going to sort betwixt

and between the two of them? i haven't a the military haven't got a clue. the military guys will what they are asked to do and the possible job do and do. the best possible job they do to out, but they can do to help out, but ultimately, of course, this has to be resolved between the government the health government and the health service. i mean, look, i'm service. yeah, i mean, look, i'm absolutely dreading because i'm going sitting going to be sitting here tomorrow flood of emails tomorrow with a flood of emails and people in touch and reading news reports and probably heanng news reports and probably hearing coming hearing recordings in the coming of desperate people . the phone of desperate people. the phone desperately trying to get an ambulance unable to so, and ambulance unable to do so, and let's be honest, is well, it always seems to be the elderly who suffer most, or indeed who suffer the most, or indeed women i mean, the women in labour. i mean, the opfics women in labour. i mean, the optics absolutely terrible optics they absolutely terrible situation a woman in situation potentially a woman in labour her own house let's labour in her own house let's say a pregnancy condition say does a pregnancy condition worse. this is something like that and fingers crossed this obviously doesn't happen. but you lady and, a baby you know, a lady and, a baby dying because they can't get an ambulance because somebody may be who does be paid more than them who does a job is decided a public service job is decided to the day off. i'm not to take the day off. i'm not sure looks to, but tim, sure how that looks to, but tim, thanks told. thanks very much. being told. got there. tim got to leave you there. tim cross, major general cbe because

rosemary cross, major general cbe because rosemécommittee now and. she's liaison committee now and. she's taking a grilling from various different employees. just different employees. let's just see him on the see what the grilling him on the moment believe as moment migrants i believe as much credibility to your objective i will introduce legislation in the new which will achieve the aim that i set and the legislation is one part of an overall plan that i'd set out in parliament recently . and out in parliament recently. and i'm confident that we can deliver that plan and it will make a difference and reduce the number of votes that i think and on question of actual on the question of the actual i said will introduce legislation in the new year, which will deliver the system that i deliver on the system that i said would anybody else want said i would anybody else want to follow that one up philip dunn. to follow that one up philip dunn . thank you, prime minister. dunn. thank you, prime minister. i'm going to questions about your government's environmental commitments and how you're going to deliver them following the conclusion of the cop27 conference, which i was you attended, i asked you on the floor of the house how you were going to personally ensure that as the structures for cop26 would dismantle with the teams

and structures of government change, how were you going to deliver its own contributions ? deliver its own contributions? and you said you would personally drive it through government. you're not chairing one cabinet committee that had some direct for this. so how are you doing that ? i think a couple you doing that? i think a couple of things, philip. first of all, that that cabinet committee those decisions still come to me as part of the collective agreement process. so then ultimately on the ultimate decision maker and second thing, the number one team are intimately involved in aspects of it, whether that's the my office sitting on that committee, specifically the delivery unit process currently over all of the targets we have and the policy unit involved with departments. and i think probably the third thing i'd say is again i judge me by my actions and i've been doing it in seven or eight weeks. and in that time i've been working closely with cabinet ministers on various payments, whether that's on an offshore wind, nuclear indeed energy efficiency, where on i got involved as we've been

developing policy that we're making announcements that the government lost a case in the high court relation to this net zero strategy. are you involved in the review to refresh that strategy by the end of march. yes, i'll doing that over the christmas holidays because we intend obviously respond to the high court demand and indeed chris skidmore net zero review like to do that i do continuing is ending grilling at the hands of a variety different employees. that was initially a little bit on the migrant situation just in case you missed it because it kind of a blink and you missed it moment. now he was asked a question about the really relation to about the eci really relation to whether still whether or not they could still overrule our desire to get players to rwanda taking off. he was very tight lipped about that. he said that in the new year that we're bringing legislation would mean that that shouldn't will new shouldn't happen. will the new year nearly us, that year is nearly upon us, that we should hearing and should be hearing out and finding that is finding out exactly what that is very, but it ties finding out exactly what that is ve perfectly but it ties finding out exactly what that is ve perfectly seamlesslyt ties finding out exactly what that is ve perfectly seamlessly to es finding out exactly what that is ve perfectly seamlessly to a big in perfectly seamlessly to a big debate that we're going to be

having very this very having very shortly, this very channel, is whether channel, which is whether not we should ignore bcci if they should just ignore bcci if they decide to block it. i'll come to that. i'll come your emails, that. i'll come to your emails, i'll to all of that very, i'll come to all of that very, very on something very shortly. just on something else, viewers will else, eagle eyed viewers will be able at bottom of my able to see at the bottom of my screen the, bank of england has unveiled of new unveiled images of the new banknotes, featuring images king charles place late charles iii in place of her late majesty queen elizabeth ii with plans to be in circular action by mid 2024. these new images are set to appear on £5, by mid 2024. these new images are set to appear on £5 , £10, are set to appear on £5, £10, £20 an d £50 notes. i remember £20 and £50 notes. i remember the last saw a £50 now. joining me in the studio now cameron me in the studio now is cameron walker, has stranger to walker, who has stranger to a £50. now, of course tv news royal reporter. welcome then with us through the new notes i wish. yeah brand new notes . the wish. yeah brand new notes. the only thing that's changing is of course it's to king course, it's going to be king charles rather than the charles on them rather than the late so you've going to late queen. so you've going to have picture and that have the main picture and that little picture on the little security picture on the see through bits the notes. see through bits of the notes. those who are familiar, those of you who are familiar, you'll late on you'll notice, is quite late on 2024 that these notes coming in circulation that is following guidance from royal guidance from the royal households that to

households that they want to have environmental impacts have as environmental impacts and financial impacts as possible , which kind of echoes possible, which kind of echoes king charles's sustainability initiatives . of course, 50 years initiatives. of course, 50 years he's been champion in action on a sustainable future . so perhaps a sustainable future. so perhaps this is his of limiting the environmental . so the notes, environmental. so the notes, which currently queen elizabeth second on will not be taken out of circulation early. they will remain in circulation until they become worn and would be replaced anyway. so you have both okay, both in circulation. okay, that's. i wonder when i'll get my hands on. the very first one, this if i'm mid 20, 24, presumably middle of 2024, we don't have a date yet. as soon as we've one who says you're going somebody kind going to hear somebody kind of locally a a silly locally sounds a bit of a silly to it's just another to say, but it's just another thing makes even thing that makes it all even more isn't well , more real. isn't say, well, we'll just so used to seeing the queen's on currency and queen's face on our currency and now become thing now it's going to become thing of yeah, exactly. of the past. yeah, exactly. we're 50 with king we're already 50 coins with king charles head on in shops charles is head on in our shops very soon in the new year, we will all the other coins will expect all the other coins to minted with charles to be minted with king charles on but if you do have

on as well. but if you do have coins with queen elizabeth second on, you can still spend them. you still use them. them. you can still use them. and be they'll just and now just be they'll just naturally of our system will naturally out of our system will then exact be yeah mean it then exact would be yeah mean it was common before queen was very common before the queen came to throne that you came to the throne that you would monarchs would have multiple monarchs in circulation time but circulation at the same time but obviously the queen was you on the for 70 years. yes the throne for 70 years. yes that was any. she quite that was never any. she quite literally it but yeah yeah so i to thank you very much has ever come and will come role report come and will come a role report such filling you the such as filling you in on the latest. yes if do manage get latest. yes if you do manage get your hands on a £50 and good luck to you that you go. let's see what been in. see what you've been getting in. sir unsurprisingly, sir john know unsurprisingly, the the the nurses strike on the ambulance tomorrow all ambulance drivers tomorrow all the for you if the nhs the big ones for you if the nhs can pay for stuff they can pay our nhs workers a better wages is from joanna. i will say on the 23rd it'll be the fifth year anniversary of the loss of partner. sorry to hear about joanna. they had joanna. she says they had a massive at the age of 54. massive heart at the age of 54. now age that is it. let's be honest. paramedics, ambulance and firemen carry him down and firemen help carry him down the stairs. six foot five inches

is a big guy . the stairs. six foot five inches is a big guy. got the stairs. six foot five inches is a big guy . got to the stairs. six foot five inches is a big guy. got to them the stairs. six foot five inches is a big guy . got to them in 8 is a big guy. got to them in 8 minutes in fog to the absolute maximum himself they maximum to save himself they could look pay could and she says, look pay them wage. look them a better wage. janet, look , absolutely. agree , absolutely. i completely agree with they should be paid with you they should be paid more money is, course, and more money is, of course, and i hate to say this, joanna, there is, moral concern is, of course, the moral concern whether should go on whether or not they should go on strike, though , shouldn't they? strike, though, shouldn't they? and i think as well for a lot of people , myself included, i was people, myself included, i was very of the impression that there would be minimal disruption, minimal disruption. and i told, oh, well, you know, honestly there will be minimal disruption. but then i was kind of saying to people and nurses and professionals that, and medical professionals that, well, obviously there's going to be going be be this is going to be quite significant that significant disruption that has of be because what's of it has to be because what's the there's no no, no, the point? there's no no, no, don't be and don't worry. it'll be fine. and now the thick of it and now we're in the thick of it and there is, isn't there something like 60,000 routine operations cancelled. got the army supposedly coming in and other military personnel as well coming tomorrow the ambulances that apparently that that driving apparently won't able to put the blues won't be able to put the blues into or go red lights and into zone or go red lights and they won't be responding. what

is category three? apparently is a category three? apparently is a category three? apparently is warning. stages is a warning. the final stages of grief. good luck of labour. good grief. good luck to out there, ladies but to you out there, ladies but yes, they're yes, apparently they're not going to coming that. going to be coming to that. i feel sorry for our military personnel. this from martin patients the patients suffering because the strike workers strike action many nhs workers probably want strikes on all power to them i can understand a bit of a pay rise, but anything more is an exception. oh yeah. there's lots of that coming through and throughout through as well. and throughout the be speaking to the course they be speaking to mps. the course they be speaking to mp5. i the course they be speaking to mps. i was speaking to medical professionals i'll professionals and i'll be speaking are speaking to people who are viewers, viewers like viewers, normal viewers like normal and. normal listeners like you and. they have unfortunately sick relatives themselves and they've got variety of different got a variety of different concerns. and be speaking concerns. and i'll be speaking as well to a member of the house select on all this. select committee on all of this. so get some so hopefully we can get some answers. yes, essentially answers. but yes, essentially government has now issued advice, well, advice, which is well, i mean, it's they can do at this it's all they can do at this stage, really, isn't it? which is to look, please don't take any unnecessary a warning any unnecessary risks. a warning against contact against things like contact sports watch out sports and basically watch out because you get tomorrow. because you get ill tomorrow. think you bang in think you might be bang in trouble delayed all of that. trouble or delayed all of that. i'm also going to be talking about whether not we should be

ignonng about whether not we should be ignoring foreign courts if they decide to meddle with our rwanda deportation plan. and the other is apparently 64 mps, 64 have seen fit to get in touch about jeremy clarkson's piece in the sun , basically saying that he sun, basically saying that he hates malcolm . so i wonder how hates malcolm. so i wonder how many of them got in touch about the fact that she's trying to trash our monarchy? vaiews@gbnews.uk out of all of that coming your way. i'm much, much your latest much more after your latest headunes. much more after your latest headlines . good afternoon. it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 332 in rosie wright. let's you up to date portsmouth hospitals university brass has declared a critical incident saying it's department is full of patients and it has limited to space those with life threatening conditions . injuries, it says conditions. injuries, it says thousands of nurses in england, northern ireland and wales walk out for a second time in under a week today, the royal college of nursing has warned the action could go on months could go on for six months unless an agreement be reached. they're a 5% above

they're calling for a 5% above inflation pay rise. the government though says those demands are unaffordable . the demands are unaffordable. the health secretary, steve barclay, says the government has prioritised the nhs on pay , have prioritised the nhs on pay, have an independent process and we have accepted that in and of course that comes on of the extra privatisation of the nhs last year . we also alongside last year. we also alongside that need focus on patients. we need to focus on those pandemic waiting lists , get those waiting waiting lists, get those waiting lists and why we've invested the extra point 6 billion over the next two years. so we priority sized the nhs and social in the autumn statement at a time of difficulty for the economy because we recognise we need to get those things down. today's action , the nurses comes ahead action, the nurses comes ahead of a strike by ambulance workers tomorrow . thousands of tomorrow. thousands of paramedics, technicians and other staff are due to walk out . at least four ambulance services have declared critical incidents as they face pressure ahead of the walkout . scotland

ahead of the walkout. scotland yard is investigating an allegation of racial abuse after conservative mp bob stewart told activist to go back to bahrain . activist to go back to bahrain. the comments were made during a confrontation last week. the mp for beckenham has apologised but denies he was being racist. the met police says the case was opened following a complaint from syed. i met a lady . you're from syed. i met a lady. you're up to date on your tv, online on dab plus . thank you anyway. dab plus. thank you anyway. patrick be back in a moment.

yes welcome back. today, everybody. there is loads on the agendais everybody. there is loads on the agenda is the second day the nhs nurses are walking out pay and conditions . health secretary conditions. health secretary steve barclay standing by the recommendations of the independent pay body. now the dispute continues . as health dispute continues. as health leaders have suggested that rishi sunak must allow pay tolls

. go ahead with nurses and ambulance . all strikes and quote ambulance. all strikes and quote harm to patients will follow and lots of things really that i mostly about i'm sure a lot of you as well. joining me now to discuss the which nurses work underis discuss the which nurses work under is nhs practise naomi parry. naomi, thank you very much. now you are not going on strike. is that. yes. so it's a practise nurse. we're not on the same agenda for change. what? they are in secondary care. so i'm not actually going strike. but to support those that are going on strike at the present moment . okay. all right. now moment. okay. all right. now look, we had a report from jack carson, our reporter is outside queen elizabeth hospital in. i mean , i can't help but feel as mean, i can't help but feel as though the way looks to patients is in great. apparently nurses doing the conga and outside . doing the conga and outside. it's difficult to comment. it's really difficult to comment if you're not there as well . it's you're not there as well. it's yeah. you're not there as well. it's yeah . what can i say? suppose it

yeah. what can i say? suppose it is a long time coming in as well as the nurses strike pay. it's not just about pay . it's about not just about pay. it's about the condition between 13, 14 hour shifts, some days without breaks. well, and we have to ask how we sort of fare on the nursing staff. i was on anybody including the ambulances are going on strike to how can we continue working 1314 hour shifts without in the break without the support and how does that got worse because look you will know obviously loads better than i but i mean i've kind been all over the news for a good number of years as you can imagine. i always enjoyed the news right. even when i was a child. i can remember reading as a child similar stories about about this situation, seeing nurses not being able to take breaks or working long hours. i'm not diminishing what they're doing. i'm just asking how they actually worse . actually got that much worse. how's the amount of stuff that we need has gone down? we've lost staff members. we haven't got enough to cope with the capacity, the demand of patient

care . as practitioner, we care. as a practitioner, as we work i work from 8 to 4 every day. i ensure my staff get the breaks. i will that breaks if needed to ensure they get them. but on the wards it's just not that because anything can that simple because anything can pattern and it just is not protected if that makes sense is right now the good time to do it because i can't help but wonder you know. right i'm not going to drag into a discussion about pay because it doesn't affect your pay because it doesn't affect your pay band, etc. and that will be unfair and you're not striking up. but obviously pay is relevant on this in the sense that want supposedly about that they want supposedly about 19% and the government is not wiggling on the independent pay offer and i do get that side of things. but right now , things. but right now, christmas, there's always the flu and a cold and a new ammonia issue as well from people alone. the cold weather in general . do the cold weather in general. do you think if they want it more support, they could just do it in the is this not designed to deliver home patients as much as possible or you could you could

argue that any of the year you could argue any time of the yeah could argue any time of the year. the debate during covid people would have argued it's called late this people in hospital excluded during measles outbreaks. we would have still got the same backlash as we are getting now . so i don't think getting now. so i don't think any time is the right time for a nurse to this moment. right time. but there's not bad. naomi . an time. but there's not bad. naomi. an the stuff in the hospitals, the in gp practises we're trying to cover much as we can . we are cover much as we can. we are here to support colleagues as well, so the reason i would answer there's never a right time. unfortunate in no time would be the right time . yeah. would be the right time. yeah. okay. no, i, i understand that one of the big things is always wheeled out is about nurses going to food banks . and i going to food banks. and i always scratch my head on this one look i don't like to one because look i don't like to be too detached from know your average normal common man and woman on the street and

everything me. do find it everything but me. i do find it tncky everything but me. i do find it tricky to see how somebody may 26 thousands of pounds a year is going to a food bank. i mean , going to a food bank. i mean, are your colleagues telling you they're going to banks ? and my they're going to banks? and my colleagues in primary , i've not colleagues in primary, i've not heard anything from the myself. i'm fairly new to the practise they might not want to disclose that sort of information people will say a is on a band five and they're on this amount of money an hour a year. but then we have to think about some national insurance after that as well. if they're not working nights , they they're not working nights, they don't get the enhanced pay working. weekends that do get the enhanced substantial, the pay the enhanced substantial, the pay is minuscule it's not fantastic. it doesn't surprise me that people are going through banks. okay. and there is an issue, of course, when it comes to roping agency staff, which is essentially what's going to take place . now, this might sound place. now, this might sound like a stupid it won't be the first stupid question. i and it certainly won't the one.

certainly won't be the last one. anyone watching show anyone watching the show regularly but if regularly will, no doubt, but if you nursing , why you went into nursing, why didn't you just become an agency nurse ? so within the agency nurse? so within the agency nursing you don't get the same pay- nursing you don't get the same pay. you don't get the same holidays, you don't get the sick leave. that's the problem with agents. so when you go into you are you going self—employed are you are going self—employed . you haven't got the same advantages. i mean, in primary care, we don't get the same sick pay care, we don't get the same sick pay and holiday pay and pay. but i can understand why people don't want to do the agency side about yeah it's good money but they've still got to pay the tax itself employment. okay fair enough. now i mean, look, thank you very much enlightening stuff and good to you as well. and good luck to you as well. naomi barrie, there is an interest be going interest nurse will not be going on does support the on strike, but does support the nurses strikes. well only strike in ladies and in town is it. ladies and gentlemen like gentlemen drivers feels like groundhog this don't worry, you're only one train you're not the only one train drivers 15 rail companies you're not the only one train driv due 15 rail companies you're not the only one train driv due to 15 rail companies you're not the only one train driv due to stage rail companies you're not the only one train drivdue to stage ail companies you're not the only one train drivdue to stage a fresh|panies you're not the only one train driv due to stage a fresh strikes are due to stage a fresh strike . this is on the 5th of january. so it's a long running dispute over pay. now, this interesting

because it's different from the rmt sees aslef right and as i've just said now that is to do with train drivers which i know is of course very different when it comes to things train guards, signals, etc. so it adds to the major disruption already planned in the first week of the new year of rmt year, with members of the rmt union striking on the and union striking on the third and the fourth sixth, the 7th the fourth on the sixth, the 7th of january, aslef boss mick wheelan we want wheelan said, we don't want cars, which is what they always say don't go on say and we don't want go on strike. companies strike. but companies are pushing place. let's pushing into this place. let's break further. i'm told break it down further. i'm told by industrial correspondent. but the jones. now, the process is alan jones. now, alan, uncover these alan, every time i uncover these strikes about trains , i'm strikes about the trains, i'm always told i don't you dare bnngin always told i don't you dare bring in train drivers about this because they're the ones on the good money and they're not the good money and they're not the ones who are demanding about going on strike it's all the cards is here is the cleaners so . well it's just train drivers now there about 70 kale they will be striking over over the dispute isn't about how much they earn it's about when i last had a pay rise like three years ago. so you probably need to

have a different discussion about how how much people earn for kind of jobs they do. you know, i'm always happy when know, i'm always very happy when i train that the driver i go on a train that the driver is very well he's know is paid very well he's i know he's trained a year but he's been trained for a year but this they haven't had this is about they haven't had a pay this is about they haven't had a pay rise for three years. you know, and this disputes you're right it does feel a bit like right it it does feel a bit like groundhog day this dispute is like rail disputes like the other rail disputes started right at the beginning , started right at the beginning, the summer. and they are no nearer resolved. so right nearer resolved. so you're right , january the fifth, they've nearer resolved. so you're right announced strike. so that week, which the week after the week which is the week after the week back after the festival, back to work after the festival, the festive there will be virtually no or that okay all right and do we have any idea what that are they want a pay rise, you know, just a pay rise. encouraging nothing. they put a figure on it. no, they haven't. they haven't put a figure on it. and the problem is, you know every month we see in relation going up and up and up. so if they did put a figure on it, it

would be out of date by next week probably or the week after. i think we're at the stage where, they just want to have offer in writing that can probably to their members probably put to their members they've settled last week in wales they've already settled in scotland is very much now an engush scotland is very much now an english problem. okay deal in wales the deal in wales was worth about four and a half, but was over nine month 067 , was over nine month 067, probably similar in scotland. you know the deals are being done. it's not as if they don't want to make the deal they do you know the general secretary of aslef will always tell you if you have demand that if there's strike he has failed. you do not want to have a strike okay. all right. well, that's interesting . so we are expecting that take place. and that has left one relates to so i'm clear on this directly to train drivers so it's just the drivers that's left aslef just represent train drivers. yes but you know, that week there's also going to be strikes by signal and yeah and

cleaners it's more or less everybody who works on the ground. well that's it and that's the union. just very, very lastly , quite quickly, in very lastly, quite quickly, in your professional opinion , who's your professional opinion, who's been around this rather time? i mean, public sympathy does only stretch so far. do you think it 7 stretch so far. do you think it ? really is and it will stretch to the drivers who i they haven't rise in three haven't had a pay rise in three years a lot people out on years but a lot of people out on a rise in three years a a pay rise in three years and a lot of aren't drivers. lot of people aren't drivers. i think they will get support and because there people are in because there are people are in the a lot of the same positions. a lot of people rise in people have met a pay rise in all disputes you're talking all the disputes you're talking about, not having all the disputes you're talking abo a , not having all the disputes you're talking aboa decent not having all the disputes you're talking aboa decent pay not having all the disputes you're talking aboa decent pay rise. ot having all the disputes you're talking aboa decent pay rise. so 1aving all the disputes you're talking aboa decent pay rise. so yes,|g got a decent pay rise. so yes, i think sympathy will will help. all good stuff. thank you all right. good stuff. thank you very great you back very much great to have you back on fantastic on the show. that fantastic okay. news. on the show. that fantastic ok.course, news. on the show. that fantastic ok.course, it news. on the show. that fantastic ok.course, it ever news. on the show. that fantastic ok.course, it ever is news. on the show. that fantastic ok.course, it ever is these iews. of course, it ever is these days, isn't it? but that was industrial correspondence at the press jones press association. alan jones picking news picking through that latest news that drivers had that yes, train drivers you had right . and drivers now going right dry. and drivers now going on doubt, that inbox on strike, no doubt, that inbox in gbviews@gbnews.uk, there'll be views because be some strong views because train are the ones who train drivers are the ones who on the most although very on the most money although very enough they are on a pay rise in

three or it? i don't three years. or is it? i don't know, views. anyway, dozens of mps for jeremy mps are calling for jeremy clarkson to apologise to the duchess of sussex, meghan markle . that's for his use of the quote well is basically what's been called misogynistic in his latest piece for sun newspaper, the column in which clarkson he hated meghan markle on a cellular level attracted criticism from a number of high profile figures and no less. his own daughter , whose piece has own daughter, whose piece has become the independ and press standards organisations . most standards organisations. most complained about all too clever apparently more than 17 and a half thousand people writing in express their displeasure yesterday , following the yesterday, following the backlash. jeremy clarkson took to twitter and he oh dear, i'd rather put my foot in it. in a column i wrote about meghan, i made a clumsy to a scene in game of thrones and this has gone down badly with a many people i'm horrified to have caused much hurt and i shall be more in future. when i thought this sets it up. as far as aware. anyway,

around 64 employees have now take it upon themselves to write in about this get in about this try to get something arguments on something done. arguments on either side yes. okay. the either side look. yes. okay. the piece to me had the of a bloke who'd maybe got a couple of glasses of rads or certainly maybe had a couple of gas the other realise that he other night, realise that he had a to write not a seven column to write and not want to. and you know, maybe an editor waved it through. editor just waved it through. i get that it probably quite get that it was probably quite offensive. gather the language offensive. i gather the language is fruity personally is quite fruity i personally read on with my read it and just got on with my day, apparently day, but apparently people are not to that. joining me not able to do that. joining me live is columnist live now to discuss is columnist and joseph ebert's and writer joseph ebert's calls on executive the on chief executive of the freedom andrew freedom association, andrew allison. start with you. allison. andrew start with you. i look is this a clamp i mean, look is this a clamp down on free speech? it sets a worrying precedent here that if people don't like . i mean, people don't like. i mean, jeremy clarkson , he hated meghan jeremy clarkson, he hated meghan markle. loads of people. what's the problem ? jeremy clarkson is the problem? jeremy clarkson is a very opinionated man, as we all know . and also no one all know. and also no one believes that meghan markle is going to turn up on the streets of britain walking naked while people throw excrement at it. that wishes rise. it's

that she wishes to rise. it's not turn phrase that i would not a turn phrase that i would have used. would been have used. i would have been much language. but you much more language. but you if you go i mean, you want to go back, i mean, your brand was talking about throwing battery acid at nigel for and is for other politicians and is something that could happen on the britain. so i think the streets britain. so i think we need to keep a perspective. i think it's a bit of a storm in a teacup. josephine, teacup. okay, josephine, your views then ? i think it views on this then? i think it is absolutely right that that mp intervened me how this public i think it's their to job want to draw a line under these things and you know to me when it comes to opinion in some respects it's not as if they're putting through legislation to suggest that speech be that free speech should be clamped that clamped on. so i think that letter is so in opinion , a letter is so in my opinion, a bit toothless, which is. i mean, they talk about environmental . they talk about environmental. what would you like to see happen there? josephine, in an ideal world, would you like to see jeremy clarkson never work again. i mean . again. oh, god, no. i mean. that's sad to me. it seems like a side issue. my main problem would be with the letter is that

just such a non—issue , the grand just such a non—issue, the grand scheme of things that we're actually facing. so to complain about hostile environment for women and to complain about a bad influence on young men and boys, well, we live in world saturated by. and yet all of these employees who have the power do something about that have instead chosen to have a go to columnist who frankly, a bit of an idiot. it just like of an idiot. it just seems like such nonsense. okay well, that's it. suppose it. interesting. and i suppose not. i don't want to paraphrase you, josephine. to you, josephine. i will back to you, josephine. i will back to you, andrew mean, you, but i'll not. andrew mean, i it remarkable that i find it remarkable that employees have decided to really intervene on this massive issue. i mean, i can think of things that get mine a lot more. i mean, for example grooming gangs and uke mean, for example grooming gangs and like and the and stuff like this. and the seems to be too verging signalling about all of that stuff. do they? is this virtue signalling. andrew what cautious virtue what it is and virtue signals what it is and very wary when mp start demanding and i think the word demanding and i think the word demand was mentioned at least twice in that letter that was sent by four mps that mp have right to demand to do newspaper

right. so what going to put in their newspaper is a very slippery slope and they not be doing it. well, it is potentially happening more and more often. it's going on just hush, josephine. look i am. which may come as a shock to you. i am not a woman. i'm is. do you think that it was particularly threatening ? meghan particularly threatening? meghan markle i think the key point reference was that game of thrones roughest. oh, i got that because i've seen game of thrones. maybe you should been a bit more. they couldn't said it to be fair or it might have been a more on nose about a bit more on the nose about saying all remember that saying do we all remember that scene thrones was scene out of game of thrones was this through the this he paraded through the streets excrement pulled streets and had excrement pulled oveh streets and had excrement pulled over, but do do you over, etc. but do do you honestly think as woman that honestly think as a woman that it less safe on the it makes women less safe on the streets jeremy clarkson streets now this jeremy clarkson article . no, i mean, i think it article. no, i mean, i think it is an unpleasant thing to say and know i've managed to disagree with public school figures very strongly without you know, showing my fantasies about them. i do think was unpleasant. i do think something

misogynistic and personal about it. but at the same time, i don't it really represents any credible to her safety. one of the arguments, i suppose, andrew, and it perhaps an unfortunate one, is the timing of it, right. because meghan markle and prince harry markle and indeed prince harry have a lot to say have done rather a lot to say that press inciting , that the press was inciting, saying horrific stuff about them. and then this article and it can be used now quite easily. very easily by people to say, well, there you go . they were well, there you go. they were right all along. andrew well, it'll be used by harry and meghan as well to say that, you know, but i many people know, but i think many people don't , don't don't like myself, don't particularly like meghan markle because it's not because she's a woman , not because a person woman, not because such a person of colour it's because of the content of character it's what content of a character it's what she you know? mean been she say, you know? i mean been she'd been found guilty of telling porkies, such telling some porkies, such as the canterbury the archbishop in canterbury marrying them three days before the place . george's the wedding took place. george's chapel which calls chapel windsor which calls archbishop of canterbury to have to done that it to say, well, if done that it would have been illegal would have the so have been breaking the law. so we've of reasons maybe not

we've lots of reasons maybe not to particularly her and not trust her. do you how do do andrew, do you hate ? meghan andrew, do you hate? meghan markle at a cellular level, i don't. meghan markle i don't particularly like i don't particularly like i don't particularly trust i wouldn't use the sort language that the jeremy clarkson used in his column . but the idea that mps column. but the idea that mps are now to demands to the editor of the you must do this and you must do no. yeah, that sounds quite aggressive it frutti. all right, look both of you thank very much i thoroughly enjoyed the strong this out a lot longer but we then got shout out but if we do then got shout out cut so thank cut off by the weather so thank very that was of very much that was of course columnist writer josephine columnist and writer josephine bartlett chief executive of bartlett and chief executive of the freedom andrew the freedom association, andrew allison, strongly . that allison, as strongly. that is interesting i'm very, interesting stuff. i'm very, very of scared very very scared of scared straight. i am scared. so scared i could hardly say about i could hardly say it about the idea lot of mps getting in idea of a lot of mps getting in touch with a newspaper editor to say you run this kind of say you can't run this kind of thing. think it's little bit thing. i think it's a little bit dystopian ask me, but dystopian if you ask me, but i've loads coming up in i've got loads more coming up in the be the next hour, we'll be returning the strong returning to all the strong issues to mp, speaking issues speaking to mp, speaking to nurses, speaking to members

of just of the public. and it's not just nurses, of course, ambulance workers a bad time workers as well. it's a bad time to get ill. did you know that apparently the military personnel, they were going to be roped in to drive the ambulances won't be able to put blue won't even be able to put blue lights? greg lights? hello there. i'm greg chu our latest chu and welcome to our latest broadcast office. broadcast from the met office. sunny tuesday sunny spells for tuesday blustery and overall blustery showers and overall feeling fresher monday. and that's a sign of things to come . next days, the jet . the next few days, the jet stream to bringing stream close to the uk bringing in further weather but milder, always the south. colder always near the south. colder air near the north. and perhaps the colder air sinking little the colder air sinking a little further southwards uk we further southwards. the uk as we head into the christmas weekend for the rest of tuesday dry for much of england and wales, though later rumbles , showers though later rumbles, showers moving and become even more moving in and become even more frequently head into the early hours. blustery showers continue across scotland, northern ireland perhaps turning more ireland as perhaps turning more persistent into the early hours here . so overall, quite cloudy here. so overall, quite cloudy nights come breezy, so temperatures holding up around five or six degrees, perhaps under any spells, a touch of frost, southern of scotland, northern england . so a cloudy,

northern england. so a cloudy, wet start to wednesday morning. outbreaks of rain sweeping its way south and east with brighter skies across much of england and wales . but northern england, wales. but northern england, northern ireland and scotland holding to skies holding on to cloudy skies outbreaks of showery rain through . still fairly through the day. still fairly blustery light winds further south, temperatures in sunshine could reach around 11 celsius, but for most it will be between seven and nine. so feeling a little fresh but not too bad for the time year three for wednesday evening dry across england , wales and initially england, wales and initially showers across scotland and northern later , as northern ireland but later, as we head into the early hours thick of cloud, outbreaks of rain will move in from the rain will move back in from the atlantic. some could atlantic. some of this could be heavy times. overall with heavy at times. so overall with a around number for a lot of cloud around number for your night. for most of us, temperatures up temperatures holding up around mid to single figures , that mid to single figures, that means a cloudy start to thursday of rain across central and northern of the uk . but through northern of the uk. but through the day it should lift and break a little to allow a few glimmers of sunshine of further rain, trying to move in from the south—west. colder air also

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yeah. welcome back, everybody . yeah. welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. now, nurses out on strike and ambulance workers are set to walk tomorrow as well. walk out tomorrow as well. that's pay and conditions. interesting enough coming up very, very shortly . i have got very, very shortly. i have got an ambulance call handler on this show . she's an ambulance call handler on this show. she's going on strike tomorrow . i would like to put tomorrow. i would like to put some of your questions to her, if all right. people if that's all right. people are now minister to now urging the prime minister to allow pay talks, go ahead to allow pay talks, to go ahead to save . have got medical save. i have got medical professional , as i've said, that

professional, as i've said, that will be fascinating . hear the will be fascinating. hear the justification for taking justification for not taking calls as people die . the calls as all people die. the fact to their own stats tomorrow going to speaking to going to be speaking to employees to be employees are going to be speaking the speaking to members of the health loads health select committee. loads of getting of people that and getting your views yesterday there views on it as. yesterday there was ray of hope with the was a ray of hope with the rwanda deportation flights. will they be off? the government won a high court challenge in favour of the policy but classic the court could continue to block it . i'm asking whether or not it's time we just write our own laws and we ignore these foreign judges views today . judges i want your views today. oh, about these oh, you're angry about these ambulance and we ambulance strikes. and should we ignore foreign if they block rwanda flies gives our gb news. dog uk. but before that it's headunes. dog uk. but before that it's headlines . patrick thanks very headlines. patrick thanks very much indeed. the top story on gb news today. portsmouth university trust has a critical incident saying its emergency department now full of patients

and that it has limited space to treat with life threatening conditions or. treat with life threatening conditions or . meanwhile, conditions or. meanwhile, thousands of nurses in england, northern ireland wales are walking out for a second time in under week. the royal college of nursing has warned that action could go for on six months unless an agreement be reached. it's calling for a 5% above inflation pay rise , but the inflation pay rise, but the government says its demands are . the health secretary , steve . the health secretary, steve barclay, says the government has priorities . the barclay, says the government has priorities. the nhs on pay. we have an independent process and we have accepted that in full and of course that comes on top of the extra priorities ation of the nhs last year. but we also alongside need to focus on patients . we need to focus on patients. we need to focus on those pandemic waiting lists, get those waiting lists and that's why we've invested extra 6.6 billion over the next two years. so we prioritised the nhs and social care in the autumn statement at a time of difficult t for the economy because

recognise we need to get those things down. meanwhile secretary of the rcn, pat cullen has criticised the government for failing to even negotiate . i failing to even negotiate. i want to say to prime minister this morning please step in now and do the decent thing on behalf every patient and member of the of this country and right across united kingdom. but please the decent thing also for the nursing staff. get round to table and start to talk to me on their behalf. that's the only respect full and decent thing to do. and let bring these strikes to a conclusion . the end of this to a conclusion. the end of this week . well, trainee nursing week. well, trainee nursing associates victoria busk is at a picket in birmingham. she says nurses will continue to until they are heard, starting to feel that's what's going to have to happen. is that we are just going to have to completely walk out at the same time and leave no to man the wards and force those able to do the care and do

what we have to do . he said, what we have to do. he said, i see what it's like and maybe then we'll get attention and we'll get support . well, today's we'll get support. well, today's action comes ahead of a strike by ambulance workers. at least five ambulance trusts have declared critical incidents they face unprecedented ahead of the walkout . thousands of paramedics walkout. thousands of paramedics technicians and other staff are to walk out tomorrow. dr. john martin, who's the president of the college of paramedics, told the college of paramedics, told the health social care committee morale is at an all time low , morale is at an all time low, seeing a sicker population who are calling us more often . are calling us more often. paramedic members of the college and down the country are working extremely to meet the needs of patients . but we're extremely to meet the needs of patients. but we're seeing extremely to meet the needs of patients . but we're seeing less patients. but we're seeing less patients. but we're seeing less patients in a shift than we did previously. that causes problem. and actually for our members , and actually for our members, paramedics like myself working up and down the country that's having big on us and our having a big on us and our morale , our ability to care for morale, our ability to care for patients and our ability to do what we need to do to keep

patients safe. well gmb national secretary rachel harrison says it's are pleading with the government do something. it's absolutely having a devastating on our members and frustrate and stress burnout exhaustion low . stress burnout exhaustion low. our members went into this to become health care professionals to help the public and provide patient safety. they feel they are being physically prevented from being able to carry out their jobs . a coroner from being able to carry out theirjobs . a coroner has from being able to carry out their jobs . a coroner has ruled their jobs. a coroner has ruled their jobs. a coroner has ruled the 11 victims of the shoreham air show in 2015 were unlawfully killed. the 11 men died after their aircraft on the a27 during an aerial display at the event in west sussex. the coroner said the plane crash was a result of poor judgement made by one pilot poorjudgement made by one pilot when undertaking manoeuvre. the court also said the other victims played no part in causing their own deaths .

causing their own deaths. scotland yard is investigating allegation of racial abuse after concern mp bob stewart told an activist to go back to bahrain. the comments were made during a confrontation last week. the mp for beckenham apologised but denies that he was being racist. the metropolitan police says the case was opened following . a case was opened following. a complaint from sayeed ahmed al wadeye wadeye . 12 people have wadeye wadeye. 12 people have been charged with after five dogs were stolen from a centre that breeds animals for a search . cambridgeshire police says officers responded to reports of a burglary at acres in whitton , a burglary at acres in whitton, cambridgeshire early on sunday morning, then again on monday afternoon . 12 people aged afternoon. 12 people aged between 20 and 52 are due to appear at cambridge magistrates later today. the dogs have yet to be recovered up to date on gb news mornings as it happens back to .

to. patrick yeah, well loads for us to get stuck to in now because health leaders are suggesting that the prime minister must allow pep talks to go ahead nurses and ambulance workers or strike and crucially home to patients will follow. it comes as nurses as we all know have walked out today, all know have walked out today, a second day. and despite with the unions, the government said that they 19% pay rise. the nurses are asking is simply unaffordable, not the government's . the opposition is government's. the opposition is saying that most people has been done, are also saying that. but let's cross over to our west midlands reporterjohn, let's cross over to our west midlands reporter john, who's on a outside the queen a picket line outside the queen elizabeth birmingham elizabeth hospital in birmingham for good to have you for us. john, good to have you back show. last time we back the show. now, last time we spoke, reference to some spoke, you did reference to some nurses doing the congress taking. still taking. they're not still doing the conga . no. well, the picket the conga. no. well, the picket line is kind of now, now gone for the day essentially. they've

all they've all gone home now. they're all here from around am this there's a couple this morning. there's a couple of hundred nurses here. there was that rightly was chanting that was rightly said there was a bit of a congress, some music. but that was more to show the united front that the nurses have here and united together and the nurses united together against against the well for this for this increase in pay rise and this want for better working conditions . the word working conditions. the word that told to today that kept getting told to today was it was all about was was it was all about retention and retaining nurses in the system. what if those reasons was of course pay the asked asking for a 19% pay increase? 5% above inflation. but will quince the health minister saying that's just unreasonable and just unaffordable . that's not going unaffordable. that's not going to happen, which is why they want the government to come to the negotiation table for them. the was also about the other one was also about staffing levels. the chart been going is, is , is better going here is, is, is, is better staffing, you know, saving lives . have more staff on . if you have more staff on wards, more wards, you can help more patients a of nurses patients because a lot of nurses here job because they here do the job because they want care people. want to care people. and speaking here on the speaking to people here on the picket line today, that was one of the messages they were

of the messages that they were was telling me nurses was they were telling me nurses have been complaining and crying and begging and asking that we need fair pay , safe staffing. need fair pay, safe staffing. but we are working with skeletal staff. we all stretch ourselves 32 patients and we do the job of two, three people every day. only the other day i saw an advert for an agency that was offering between 30 an d £40 an offering between 30 and £40 an hour on that is where nurses are going to . why don't you just pay going to. why don't you just pay us more and we come to work rather than paying somebody from outside more? and i am here already. you pay me little . they already. you pay me little. they are sick and have made it very clear that they will sit down and talk back, pay and pat cullen has it quite clear that there is room for negotiation action. steve barclay and action. but steve barclay and rishi sunak have not and they need to just come together and sit down and discuss and i am sure most nurses aren't

expecting to get 19. so that's what people in birmingham are saying on the picket line earlier today. of course , one of earlier today. of course, one of the other things that was mentioned though was agency work has a lot of graduate students aren't into the nhs, aren't going into the nhs, they're going into agencies because much money they because how much more money they can . but strikes do have can get. but the strikes do have an impact on. people, have an impact on. people, they have an impact on. people, they have an wanting an impact on patients wanting care and the strikes last week 16,000 appointments and surgeries had to be suspended . i surgeries had to be suspended. i imagine there's been a similar impact here because of the second day of strike action today. the rnc , today. but pat cullen the rnc, rcn general secretary saying that this could all be wrapped up that this could all be wrapped ”p by that this could all be wrapped up by christmas if the government to the table . government come to the table. but is saying but the government is saying that have accepted now that that they have accepted now that independent for 4% pay independent pay body for 4% pay rise and so they're not going to come try to negotiate around come and try to negotiate around a pay come and try to negotiate around a pay increase, which is a 19% pay increase, which is what are demanding. but what the rcn are demanding. but this has had an impact on patients they've to patients as they've tried to get care . yeah, well of course care today. yeah, well of course it has has had an impact on patients for the second day the nurses taking place and nurses strike taking place and i believe potentially believe tomorrow potentially is going to have a more vivid

impact ambulancesfrankly impact as ambulances frankly aren't thank aren't dispatched. well thank you there you much, john carson there outside elizabeth hospital outside queen elizabeth hospital in very , shortly, in birmingham now very, shortly, ladies be ladies and gentlemen, i will be speaking someone who is, as speaking to someone who is, as i understand it anyway, an ambulance they ambulance call handler. they going will going on strike. it will be interesting. reasons interesting. see the reasons behind exactly what behind that and exactly what they they feel they wants and how they feel about thing. but about the whole thing. but speaking to senior mps at the liaison committee, rishi soon was about public sector was asked about public sector pay was asked about public sector pay amid strike action. pay amid this strike action. let's hear this always been let's just hear this always been very clear in expressing my gratitude and admiration for all nhs and indeed all public sector workers . the board for the job workers. the board for the job that they do. i've acknowledged that they do. i've acknowledged that it that they do. i've acknowledged thatitis that they do. i've acknowledged that it is difficult. it is difficult for everybody because inflation is where it is. and the best way to help them and to help everyone else in the country is for us to get a grip and reduce inflation as quickly as possible need to make as possible. and we need to make sure decisions that we sure that the decisions that we make can bring about that outcome. if get it outcome. because if we get it wrong and still dealing wrong and we're still dealing with inflation year's with high inflation a year's time, not to time, that's not going to help anybody i want to see anybody. i don't want to see that. want see things that. i want to see things get

back normal . and that's why back to normal. and that's why having independent pay process , having independent pay process, an important part of making those decisions and getting them correct, and that's what accepted those recommendations for. and okay, well, that's rishi sunak's response to it now nurses have out today tomorrow rishi sunak's response to it now nlthe; have out today tomorrow rishi sunak's response to it now nlthe turne out today tomorrow rishi sunak's response to it now nlthe turn of ut today tomorrow rishi sunak's response to it now nlthe turn of those ay tomorrow rishi sunak's response to it now nlthe turn of those ambulance/ is the turn of those ambulance workers. soldiers are being trained, drive ambulances at wellington in london. wellington barracks in london. apparently, colonel apparently, lieutenant colonel james shaw has outlined the soldiers will be expected help tomorrow, though its its support tomorrow, though its its support to the paramedics that will be driving the ambulance that will be assisting getting a casualty onto a stretcher them into the ambulance, perhaps getting them down some stairs. the ambulance , the non the non—clinical roles , allowing the ambulance technician to do the clinical roles itself . this isn't about roles itself. this isn't about us yet. we've been tasked to support the ambulance service and that saw focus we are heanng and that saw focus we are hearing rather concerning reports that they won't be able to turn the lights on. they won't be able to run red lights or break the speed limit. so

essentially would just be like normal driving an normal people driving an ambulance. have to ambulance. but we'll have to wait of course. unison wait and see. of course. unison as the as christina mckinney said, the government putting at government is putting public at risk taking ambulances off risk by taking ambulances off the roads to train military personnel, to drive them during wednesday strikes . it's all wednesday strikes. it's all a bit of a mess, isn't . well, bit of a mess, isn't. well, look, joining me now live is nicki mortimer, who is an ambulance taker from lincolnshire . and i understand lincolnshire. and i understand that you're going be striking tomorrow . is that right that you're going be striking tomorrow. is that right? that's right, yes. tomorrow's the first day of the strike . and why are day of the strike. and why are you striking ? it is after you you striking? it is after you deliver for an ambulance stop in line with the nhs , cost of line with the nhs, cost of living and everything, which is not a fair pay. mm. i i've got to ask what you paid paid . paid to ask what you paid paid. paid not far off. minimum to be honest with you. and we do it. people are saving lives over , people are saving lives over, the phone, doing cpr over phone, they're him. life saving information over the phone. they're delivering babies, they're stopping plates and they

get not far off minimum wage . so get not far off minimum wage. so we're just after four wage. they take tremendous job. and i ask, did you know what you would be paid when you decided to do the job? absolute labour. but we're not getting paid in line with inflation and everything. so we know in effect the pay rises that have got sort of been that we have got sort of been still pay in line with still been a pay in line with inflation and essentially because most people haven't got pay because most people haven't got pay rise in line with inflation, is it very much that because of the nature of what you do, he isuppose the nature of what you do, he i suppose you could say saving lives. you think that you deserve the pay rise in line with inflation whereas others maybe don't. yeah we're very stretched as these only the nhs is understaffed the very long hours, very stressful roles and we need more financial support to enable to keep staff and you know to keep them in their own to, to keep providing service that we want to provide . i am that we want to provide. i am getting a lot of emails saying this is holding people to

ransom. yvonne has been on. yvonne says if people die tomorrow it's down to the strikers . does that bother you ? strikers. does that bother you? usually but as i understand it, they they we categorise into the category ones, which is the life saver will still be responded to as far as we are able to. and also of the cat to that are more the more impressive ones. so it's more the less lifesaving ones that would be impacted if you're in a middle of a cardiac arrest, then that will be responded to. yeah i mean, i, i've heard now it's the latest reports that they can't guarantee people who are suffering a heart attack will get an ambulance to them. but apparently realise. apparently i didn't realise. apparently category three includes late includes women in the late stages and obviously stages of labour and obviously not just the women involved. there newborn and babies there is a newborn and babies and is very very very and that is very very very difficult is it not morally do you really think that you have the right to do to people if we would not be putting people's at risk wherever it avoidable as i

said could not everyone's category two you know where it is serious life threatening conditions such as or such as things that absolutely need us. there well, what we're asking for people to assist us with dunng for people to assist us with during this difficult time is , during this difficult time is, if they can't make their own way, it's a non threatening way, if it's a non threatening emergency, they can make their own to amy to speak to own way. to amy to speak to their gp or one on one for their gp or the one on one for advice, to help us during advice, to just help us during this then that's where advice, to just help us during this still then that's where advice, to just help us during this still geten that's where advice, to just help us during this still get the|at's where advice, to just help us during this still get the help where advice, to just help us during this still get the help that; they still get the help that they still get the help that they rise they require. what pay rise would compromise ? because would you compromise? because absolutely is saying that absolutely nobody is saying that they can afford a 19% pay rise . they can afford a 19% pay rise. it's not my position to say that that's for the trade unions to discuss. yeah well, then you could argue, well, it's our to job negotiate . and even if job negotiate. and even if you're going on strike, it that you're going on strike, it that you won't be taking a call tomorrow if i fell down the stairs. oh, my grandma got very ill, and ill, for example, and desperately an ambulance. desperately needed an ambulance. and let's be honest, you won't be and it over. so what be there and it is over. so what do want to be paid? what do you want to be paid? what could stop you from going off?

you can't just palm this off on the trade unions. you must have a view . i don't know how a piece a view. i don't know how a piece of strait islanders after a fair deal and being offered a 4% is not a fair deal. okay so what is to some somewhere in between 4% and what if we said 6% without do i don't know isn't my place to make that decision so it's up them to come up with a fair deal for us what we're all afterwards right . i for us what we're all afterwards right. i think i think a lot of people would think if you're making the decision to go on strike, that maybe you should have figure in mind . strike, that maybe you should have figure in mind. i'm sure have a figure in mind. i'm sure that the leaders i'm sure that they will come up with some negotiation. is that what we want him they wanting them to come the table make a fair come to the table to make a fair negotiation? what we've been offered fair offered is not a fair negotiation not a rise, negotiation and not a pay rise, not work that's being not for the work that's being done.the not for the work that's being done. the structure that the done. the structure that so the demands being put on us. we warrant pay rise is fair and warrant a pay rise is fair and just with line that we work just with the line that we work the way through, that's all we're asking the we're asking. not asking for the

world, asking for fair world, which is asking for fair pay- world, which is asking for fair pay. so you so i've pay. so if you you so you i've been offered is it roughly been offered what is it roughly a pay been offered what is it roughly a pay increase, that right a 4% pay increase, is that right 7 a 4% pay increase, is that right ? i so yeah . you don't know that ? i so yeah. you don't know that . i don't know the exact figures. no so you're so just to clarify you are going on strike but you actually don't know what pay but you actually don't know what pay rise you were offered, you just an absolutely adamant that that wasn't enough is an overall decision was made for a strike to you to be signed so it wasn't on everybody didn't you know that the but it was taken there when majority wanted that but you voted for it. yeah whether or not i voted or not, it's confidential but yes that's what the majority voted for. right. but you didn't know you were being offered . i didn't know being offered. i didn't know what was offered. we given all the facts and figures off the top of head. i do not have the facts and figures on the top. my head okay look, i would head just. okay look, i would have is pretty have thought this is pretty routine with respect, routine stuff with with respect, we of viewers, as you

we have a lot of viewers, as you can listeners, we can imagine and listeners, we will be very, very concerned about potential the about the potential draw, the definite strike tomorrow. definite strike action tomorrow. i would thought that you i would have thought that you would figures to about what would have figures to about what you now what were being you paid. now what were being offered why wasn't good offered and why that wasn't good enough but enough and what you want. but you any interview you haven't got any interview not in front of me. no. okay. alright very much. you got it . alright very much. you got it. nikki mortimer. it was. i'm going to school. take up from lincolnshire . will be striking lincolnshire. will be striking tomorrow. well the health steve barclay has been speaking on top story the day which the story of the day which is the nurses he's been nurses strikes. he's been highlighting government's highlighting the government's investment into the health service above other service over and above other parts public sector. we parts of the public sector. we have pay to look have an independent pay to look at that and to balance both the needs of . your viewers who are needs of. your viewers who are facing cost of living pressures at the moment, the affordability to the economy, but also the needs of the nhs and we're prioritising the nhs, that's in the autumn statement . the the autumn statement. the chancellor put an extra the autumn statement. the chancellor put an extr a £66 chancellor put an extra £66 billion of investment into , the billion of investment into, the nhs. that's in addition to the £7.5 billion over the next two

years into the care sector. and it's great to see the work that care staff are doing up and down the country such as here at morton house. we're investing more in the nhs, but also we have an independent process that at pay and balance that with the cost of living pressures that many of your viewers are facing. but ignored those recommendations before . the fact recommendations before. the fact that ambulances potentially may be turning up, potentially talking about people losing lives because of this. is this not a moment to potentially ignore those recommendations? but we've accepted recommendations in full. and, of course , that comes on top of course, that comes on top of last year when other public sector workers faced a pay freeze. and we prioritise the nhs with an extra 3% last year. in addition to accepting the recommendations in full this yeah recommendations in full this year. but also need to invest more in services to patients. we recognise significant backlogs as a consequence of the pandemic as a consequence of the pandemic a lot of your viewers who will be waiting for operations is

important get the investment in the new diagnostic centres and we've already announced another 19 on top of the 91 new diagnostics and to reinvest in in new surgical hubs so we have more resilience getting those operations waiting lists down so we're investing more in the nhs . but we also recognise that we need to invest more in care and that's why talking to care staff today who do a brilliant job up and down the country , and down the country, recognising how important they are in terms of getting people out of hospital into care settings because that one of the ways we leave a lot pressure on the nhs when , we've got 13 and a the nhs when, we've got 13 and a half thousand people in hospital who are ready to leave, who are medically ready to leave, but they need those care packages and that's we're investing and that's what we're investing . so you're investing in the nhs , why them? you talk about , why them? what you talk about pay , why them? what you talk about pay cullen says that won't pay? pat cullen says that won't dig in if you don't. it sounds like they're willing to compromise. why would you ? well, compromise. why would you? well, we're we've we're happy to talk and we've been engaging. i'm been engaging. in fact, i'm having a further meeting. while having a further meeting. while having meeting with

having the further meeting with three unions today. three trade unions today. i discussions with another trade union yesterday so we're keen talk we're engaging with the trade unions on pay we have an independent process and we have that in full and of course that comes on top the extra prioritisation of the nhs last year year . prioritisation of the nhs last year year. okay well that is steve barclay that health secretary of course just discussing the very latest when it comes to the various different actions taking place. crucially under his brief that all the wants. right, all of the health wants. right, you are we being patrick christys news coming up. christys on gb news coming up. we've hearing and we've been hearing bits and pieces liaise zone pieces from the liaise zone committee is committee of employees which is in questioning prime in session questioning the prime minister, we will minister, rishi sunak. we will hear from hear the latest from the committee political committee from our political editor mccaffrey is .

next well, welcome , everybody. now,

well, welcome, everybody. now, let's just say that it has been facing employees this afternoon , his first appearance in front of the liaison committee. he's been grilled over cost of living, ongoing strikes living, crisis, ongoing strikes and in ukraine an all and the war in ukraine an all round grilling. that also in westminster, tory mp andrew bridgen has been suspended from the house of commons for five days for a series apparently breaches of lobbying rules. hey, it's always absolutely everything easy everything is given easy political it's a darren mccaffrey darren. thank you very much. shall we start with the liaise committee and liaise on committee and a grilling rishi sunak grilling that rishi sunak got there work way there and we'll work our way through. bridget, what's the crock with the liaison committee yeah, well, i've been watching it last hour, patrick. it for the last hour, patrick. so you had two of the so you haven't had two of the last 90 minutes? last almost 90 minutes? actually, wrapping actually, it should be wrapping up in the next couple of minutes and you say, he the prime and as you say, he the prime minister's been asked by whole minister's been asked by a whole range war range of different from the war in ukraine through to those strikes and the things like child in scotland child poverty in scotland dependants. interestingly he say that he has got full support for ukraine having discussions the weekend about whether the uk was

carried out an audit essentially of contribution to the war of its contribution to the war effort in, ukraine. but the prime minister insisting was not really to be the case in really going to be the case in the review is not the that this review is not going change that commitment. going to change that commitment. it also asks about rwanda and whether there would be a commitment to continue to send essentially illegal migrants to rwanda. what those figures would be he would not commit himself on and interesting, on that. and really interesting, i for a of viewers i think for a lots of viewers particularly you might be driving at moment from driving home at the moment from there was no commitment to not taking up dual duty by 12 $0.12 in march. it's due to go up by that amount in march been suggesting the government should scrap that no real commitment to it. the big issue strikes did up it. the big issue strikes did up it didn't dominate by any estimation but again the prime minister reiterating that he wants see inflation down. he wants to see inflation down. he says if you give in to these pay demands of the unions that will push up inflation only things worse the government facing worse but the government facing a real real on this issue we're going to see paramedics on

strike tomorrow. we've had nurses strike today. you just nurses on strike today. you just heard oakley just heard from steve oakley just before on all of this before the break on all of this and many are quite annoyed. it wasn't even discussed cabinet wasn't even discussed a cabinet yet. was yet. the king's coronation was people saying , has the prime people saying, has the prime minister really got how this issue is ? yeah, i mean, it's issue is? yeah, i mean, it's a fair question . absolutely. i fair question. absolutely. i mean, it's just put both of it up. i did just have nhs call handler on an ambulance. call handler on their own. yeah okay. well she didn't appear to know exactly but exactly what they wanted, but the side of is, is that, exactly what they wanted, but the know, ie of is, is that, exactly what they wanted, but the know, thef is, is that, exactly what they wanted, but the know, the government appear you know, the government appear to particularly keen on to be particularly keen on negotiating with the media. i mean, there's no witness mean, there's no real witness there comes to that kind there when it comes to that kind of we were just playing of stuff. we were just playing a clip of rishi sunak's deliberately liaison deliberately locked the liaison committee latest committee darren was the latest with bridgen . he's been with andrew bridgen. he's been suspended for a breaches, suspended as for a breaches, something to do with lobbying. what's yeah so this is all what's going yeah so this is all around declaring essentially whether you've an interest or whether you've an interest or whether you've an interest or whether you've been contracted being paid to give gifts on behalf of someone. and if you have been as an mp, you meant to

properly declare it and particularly declare it. if you start raising questions in parliament, all lobbying ministers on certain issues. now it seems that andrew bridgen has fallen these rules we fallen foul of these rules we had of months we had a couple of months ago we had a couple of months ago we had appeal not we had launched an appeal not we learned that appeal he is learned that that appeal he is also lost and quite strong language it must be said from the parliamentary around this idea lobbying. he said , or the idea lobbying. he said, or the committee in charge said that andrew bridgen displayed a very cavalier attitude to these rules , that he had broken the rules on multiple occasions and in multiple ways . the standards multiple ways. the standards commissioner said it was unacceptable attack upon the integrity of parliament. now he's been or will be suspended for five days. parliament actually goes recess later on today for its parliamentary christmas . so today for its parliamentary christmas. so i today for its parliamentary christmas . so i suspect that christmas. so i suspect that suspension will in the new year and has denied any wrongdoing . and has denied any wrongdoing. but it is a reminder i think that the parliamentary authorities take this idea of lobbying pretty serious certainly that you need to be transparent you need to be clear

that if you write to a minister, if you ask a question in, you have to declare if you've got some type of interest in it. and it appears. andrew bridgen as the commission and the committee have found , broke those rules on have found, broke those rules on multiple occasions . well, it's multiple occasions. well, it's interesting stuff, darren thank you very much as ever. and thank you very much as ever. and thank you much for sitting through that liaison committee as well. as rightly said, on. as you rightly said, so on. didn't to. is our political didn't have to. is our political editor mccaffrey there editor darren mccaffrey there right. loads coming in loads. those coming in throughout the course of show having course of this show having various different well i suppose person questions i mean the strikes the big issue got the nurses today and we've got the ambulance workers we've got various military experts on as well because military personnel are going be drafted in and are going to be drafted in and of course as well, we're going to be talking about whether or not think it's justified. not you think it's justified. there case well, there is the case as well, massively. to this massively. and i'm to put this across know, the should across the you know, the should be more negotiate be doing a bit more to negotiate with people. that is with these people. and that is why. to call handler why. yes. okay to call handler on before and maybe up on before and maybe pick up a

bit a rough ride. fair bit of a rough ride. fair enough. but it will be equally pertinent to pertinent questions put to him for select committee for the health select committee very, very shortly. make sure for the health select committee very stayy shortly. make sure for the health select committee very stay tuned:ly. make sure for the health select committee verystay tuned for make sure for the health select committee very stay tuned for that. ake sure for the health select committee very stay tuned for that. theere you stay tuned for that. they should a bit more. should be doing a bit more. i would is job of a would argue it is the job of a government stop what is government to stop what is basically general in basically a general strike in name done. as name and they've not done. as i said, got thousands of said, we've got thousands of homes across, the south—east of england water, england all without water, though, well. is another though, as well. this is another one widespread one that thanks to widespread and get the and burst pipes. we'll get the very on that. first, very latest on that. but first, it of time for your it is, of course, time for your headunes. it is, of course, time for your headlines . patrick, thanks very headlines. patrick, thanks very much indeed. the top stories this hour portsmouth hospitals university trust has declared a critical incident saying its emergency department is full of patients and it has limited space to treat those with life threatening and injuries. that comes as thousands of nurses in england, northern ireland and wales walk out for the second time in under a week. the royal college of nursing has warned the action go on for six months and less. an agreement can be reached. it's calling for a 5% above inflation rise, but the

government says , its demands are government says, its demands are unaffordable. health secretary steve barclay saying the government has prioritised instead the entire nhs on pay. we have an independent and we have accepted that in full and of course that comes on top of the extra priorities ation of the extra priorities ation of the nhs last year. but we also, alongside need to focus on patients. we need to focus on those pandemic lists, get those waiting . and that's why we've waiting. and that's why we've invested the extra 6.6 billion over the next two years. so prioritised the nhs and social care in the statement at a time difficulty for the economy because we recognise we need to get those things down. well today's action comes of a strike by ambulance workers . thousands by ambulance workers. thousands of paramedics and other staff are due to walk out tomorrow at least ambulance trusts have declared critical incidents as they face unrest . pressures they face unrest. pressures ahead of the walkout . to

ahead of the walkout. to scotland yard is investing , scotland yard is investing, fighting an allegation of racial abuse after conservative mp bob stewart told an activist to go to bahrain. the were made during a confrontation last week. the mp for beckenham apologised but denies was being racist. the met says the case was opened following complaint from saeed ahmed al woody . that's how you ahmed al woody. that's how you up to date on online and dab+ radio with gb news. don't go anywhere . we're back in a moment.

welcome back, everybody. right now , thousands of homes across now, thousands of homes across kent and sussex are finally without water or of low pressure due to the cold spell. apparently has been followed by a sharp rise in temperatures which has led to burst pipes. jersey yesterday, southern water

confirmed total of 20,000 customers were affected whilst . customers were affected whilst. today, south—east water says around 50,000 only have intermittent supplies . a bit intermittent supplies. a bit more on those now. gb news national, the chikomba is national, the theo chikomba is it dane call grammar school in broad where they are handing out water to effective residents. those going on they are yes. i mean one of those days where you've seen lots people come to this part of broadstairs to get some water after the last 48 hours, they've had no water in their homes. this area in particular is run by southern water and they cater around 50,000 homes. and as you just mentioned there, south—east was the south—east water which looks after tunbridge wells and east grinstead. in another part of kent, around 15,000 homes have been affected now . people, of been affected now. people, of course, need water to their homes to drink tea and of course, to look after themselves, to have a shower. and so on. as a lot of people you've spoken here today have been concerned that it's not been concerned that it's not been a huge issue, but they just

say it's very inconvenient and especially when least expect especially when you least expect it. and here's some of what they had say earlier. they've had to say earlier. they've opened stations which they've said shared , but you have to said and shared, but you have to queue so long and obviously queue for so long and obviously some people had to come up more. i've just come up i've one i've just come up i've got one bottle just make we have bottle now just to make we have got something we've been making do the tiniest amounts do with the tiniest amounts of water teeth and water to brush our teeth and wash face. i went shopping yesterday get water because yesterday to get water because there's queues here , but i there's such queues here, but i didn't any water. still water anyway, so that's why i'm today spent a bit difficult an inconvenience really rather than a big problem . i think that if a big problem. i think that if it goes on much longer then it's going to become much more serious. but we've managed to cope in the last two days . well, cope in the last two days. well, there is some good for people who live in this area , in who live in this area, in particular southern water. i've just spoken a representative just spoken a representative just a few moments and is that most people should now have water back in their homes since

around 3 pm. in the now shutting this and the one around the corner as well people coming throughout the some people having luggages trolleys bags cause you name it and it's not just other parts of the uk as well in wales reports there that some schools have had to shut because they didn't have enough water there in the pembrokeshire area , of course in england as area, of course in england as well in, lancaster and over in scotland and glasgow and some of the areas in area have not had water over the last few days . water over the last few days. this is because the weather which we last week extremely cold and then it just turned into slightly warmer weather over the last few days of around 12 degrees. that's caused thaw and as well water bursting in pipes across the networks as well . yeah thank you very much. well. yeah thank you very much. theo chikomba gb news is national reporter. hopefully they get our issue sorted very, very right. so we're moving on from that now and just nurses have been on strike today in a bid for 19% pay rise. that's being demanded by the royal

college of nursing now. the prime minister, rishi sunak's, has insisted that he cannot prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron ed that he cannot prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron anthat he cannot prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron an nhs1e cannot prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron an nhs .5 cannot prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron an nhs . his1not prime minister, rishi sunak's, has inron an nhs . his reason? budge on an nhs. his reason? well, he doesn't want to make inflation which sounds inflation worse, which sounds relatively reasonable, although inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay reasonable, although inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay rise)nable, although inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay rise)nécoursethough inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay rise )nécourse ,|ough inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay rise)nécourse , iugh inflation worse, which sounds relati\pay rise)nécourse , i think some pay rise of course, i think be welcome . if it meant that be welcome. if it meant that negotiations could begin on them. patients were saved. frankly, the perennial issue of whether or not they're going to die tomorrow a mum of three die tomorrow. a mum of three who's been impacted the who's been impacted by the strikes hassan, new strikes is claire hassan, new paris sue sorry square. i think i probably mispronounced the surname there, but i'll let you set yourself for and sally set yourself for us and sally claire understand that you're claire i understand that you're down. somebody who's had appointments would down. somebody who's had appymindants would down. somebody who's had appymind filling would down. somebody who's had appymind filling me would down. somebody who's had appymind filling me in would down. somebody who's had appymind filling me in a would down. somebody who's had appymind filling me in a little uld you mind filling me in a little bit situation please? bit on your situation please? claire well, my dad's 77 years old and he has had a bit of a bad time through this whole crisis, and he's had a bypass and a hip replacement . and he and a hip replacement. and he actually suffered through bladder cancer as well and lucky . so far so good. everything's

been and it just managed to with a lot of waiting but we've there in the end for everything he was ready getting better then he's just had recently about a month ago i another another check for his bladder cancer and it looks like it's possibly backed and his biopsy was due on the 16th obviously didn't happen now it's rescheduled to the sixth. i was hoping on that time because i wanted to try did decide whether we were going to travel out the uk this year and obviously i wasn't. can i ask you can i ask you on that because i think she's actually really important because look for a lot of people they might thinking well that they're elderly relatives you know maybe they live close to them right . and worst case them right. and worst case scenario, worst case scenario, anthony ambulance tomorrow or

then he's taken to hospital today. then he's taken to hospital today . whatever they might be today. whatever they might be able to get the car and take the themselves or you know, god forbid something happens, anything that can happen to all trip and fall or whatever and you know, you can maybe get round, are in round, but you are not in a position to do that. you are relying most people relying more than most people would nhs . and are would expect on the nhs. and are you very, very concerned about the impact of these strikes tomorrow? because where are you on bus ? yeah, there's and on the bus? yeah, there's and the last thing is that i can tell you that my mum has just had a cataract corp and it was or it went wrong , they made a or it went wrong, they made a mistake. i got caught in her eye, her eye almost exploded and she's very , very little vision she's very, very little vision in that eye. so this, this time when everything was stressing , when everything was stressing, we were like, okay , so the we were like, okay, so the cancer might be back. let's just get on with it. let's just get the done and let's just see where we are. and now we're back in a point for christmas where we can't make any decisions . and

we can't make any decisions. and this this it's being far away , this this it's being far away, obviously. i've got two disabled children now . my three too young children now. my three too young to decide what it's real difficulty getting things done . difficulty getting things done. and this is where this is where we rely on the health service now look do you think that this could all be solved the government doing more to try to stop these strikes i.e. government doing more to try to stop these strikes he being more proactive when it comes to negotiating believe the whole nhs a complete work up from bottom to the top and i think nurses lives need to be made better and i think that's they need from this not the money because the money for of the of the lower peers the money is really important at this time because i see i'm i have three children only my husband works we live in a foreign country i mean really difficult but the real sense that the whole nhs needs to change so they don't

make the mistakes to stop causing themselves more. what would my family and they need to get a point where the people want to be nurse because my husband is our main in. yeah and he his is trying to be a nurse and she two years ago she moved to germany . right. well this and she two years ago she moved to germany. right. well this is this is probably going carol, i often talk to her over to the uk. i said hey we're full of nursing by why you come to the uk. she said no i don't want to go to the uk . the quality of is go to the uk. the quality of is not good enough . okay, so you not good enough. okay, so you think that obviously we should be doing a bit more to make their better and a lot of that will be around recruitment and retention is maybe the burden will be around recruitment and reteithe1 is maybe the burden will be around recruitment and reteithe pressure aybe the burden will be around recruitment and reteithe pressure offe the burden will be around recruitment and reteithe pressure off . the burden will be around recruitment and reteithe pressure off . i've burden will be around recruitment and reteithe pressure off . i've gotien and the pressure off. i've got i've got to ask you, do think morally it's right that they go on nurses, ambulance drivers , on nurses, ambulance drivers, ambulance workers in some places

. but i do think there are things that should be covered. i think ambulances shouldn't go on strike because . it's not working strike because. it's not working as a service anyway . you are as a service anyway. you are only getting to the very people only getting to the very people on second rate with the not with the council operations. okay you know, okay, someone's got handle it. put it off . there are it. put it off. there are certain operations that that emotionally will stunted and the entire family. i like and that is then is the knock on effect isn't it. and i, i hope it goes outside, i'll say i really wish you and your family all the best. know that all of our viewers know. listen as well. and luck to you. thank and good luck to you. and thank you for coming on you so, so much for coming on and up. you know and speaking up. you know what? and even worse, and this makes it even worse, actually, it actually, clive, it unfortunately just unfortunately won't just be people. just you in people. we'll just be you in this this is it. people. we'll just be you in tithink this is it. people. we'll just be you in tithink it's this is it. people. we'll just be you in tithink it's really this is it. people. we'll just be you in tithink it's really important. i think it's really important and tries to paint that picture just the on just to show the knock on effects it because families effects it because the families have been their hair out have been pulling their hair out over they all get

over this as they can't all get that for their elderly relatives or good luck to or whatever. but good luck to you as of a happy you and as much of a happy christmas as you can possibly have. wishing so . have. i'm wishing you that so. thank you do all thank you very much. you do all aspects you can say i will look after yourself. okay take care. well, that was clear. that of it was giving her views on the was just giving her views on the fact there. it strikes fact there. i mean, it strikes tomorrow she today, tomorrow unless she tries today, she's certainly she's guilty relative. certainly not the best of health. and not in the best of health. and i think people relate to think plenty of people relate to that, course. her that, of course. and just her reaction and what reaction to it, really, and what wants for rather a lot wants sorted for rather a lot of you sending in your you have been sending in your views nurses strike views on the nurses strike kevin's on. kevin says the government a disgrace. government is a disgrace. the majority support, majority of our people support, the and they do the nurses and think they do a fabulous them money pay fabulous job pay them money pay them that's them germany a safe and that's interesting think that's the interesting i think that's the key kevin, key distinction, though, kevin, isn't it's about paying them isn't it? it's about paying them the money. oh the pay the money. oh yeah. the pay demand the policy demand which need the policy says is feasible or just paying them money, which. them more money, which. yes. okay argue the okay you could argue the government doesn't get government doesn't even say get round and maybe have round the table and maybe have a bit more of a productive conversation raises conversation about raises emailed. and government have emailed. and the government have completely the completely miscalculated the level for the nurses completely miscalculated the leythis for the nurses completely miscalculated the leythis country for the nurses completely miscalculated the leythis country and the nurses completely miscalculated the leythis country and pays|urses completely miscalculated the leythis country and pays lawyers in this country and pays lawyers and bankers. i've no clue about

working people. strike all people, and have huge people, voters and have huge support. the need to change tack and listen to what nurses are saying or they be out. yeah again, absolutely mean if you look at most opinion polls and certainly we ran one i think on friday you see the majority of the british public are in favour of on strike. i just of nurse going on strike. i just can't but wonder whether of nurse going on strike. i just can realistically /onder whether of nurse going on strike. i just can realistically theyr whether of nurse going on strike. i just can realistically they would her not realistically they would like wiggle room there . so like more wiggle room there. so if this 19% pay offer or pay demand , i suppose you could say demand, i suppose you could say is the best that they can do, and yet that's unaffordable. maybe needs from both sides maybe more needs from both sides . russ sue says, used to a lot . russ sue says, i used to a lot of respect for the nhs . it is of respect for the nhs. it is ebbed she's my own ebbed away. she's my own experiences of the my experiences of the way my parents treated before they experiences of the way my pare|and treated before they experiences of the way my pare|and nowtreated before they experiences of the way my pare|and now the ed before they experiences of the way my pare|and now the nursesyre they experiences of the way my pare|and now the nurses go they experiences of the way my pare|and now the nurses go ony died and now the nurses go on strike, endangering lives too. many lives are already being lost by errors and, huge sums of compensation paid to deplete available service. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere service. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere a service. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere a kind service. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere a kind of service. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere a kind of neatrvice. compensation paid to deplete avaiithere a kind of neat little and there a kind of neat little it's a somewhat depressing snapshot. where i think the snapshot. it's where i think the nafions snapshot. it's where i think the nations are those two sides of it completely that no thank you very much everybody who has been getting touch course getting in touch over the course

of them coming, of this show, keep them coming, people, do to people, because i do want to hear you, vaiews@gbnews.uk people, because i do want to heabut you, vaiews@gbnews.uk people, because i do want to heabut yotmovingvs@gbnews.uk people, because i do want to heabut yotmovingvs@gbn(to;.uk uk. but we're moving on now to another issue know lots you another issue i know lots of you have about and have passionately about and that is rwanda because the high court ruled intention ruled the government intention to seekers to to relocate asylum seekers to rwanda . the home rwanda was lawful. the home secretary suella braverman went on say absolutely on say she was absolutely committed to making the plan work . but despite the court work. but despite the court declaring lawful, the policy has come under attack on a number of fronts are questions over its effectiveness as a deterrent? let's be honest the threat of death in the channel is not much of a deterrent. i'm not sure how much a floods in rwanda be, much a floods in rwanda will be, but you could argue but i suppose you could argue it's token effort. speaking in it's a token effort. speaking in front of the liaison earlier, rishi expects rishi sunak said he expects further challenges and further legal challenges and pledged that's pledged to pursue them. that's a big a lot of as well big for a lot of people as well . pesky foreign judges . of those pesky foreign judges will still get involved in our legal system me in the legal system joining me in the studio now is the former studio right now is the former immigration minister , timothy immigration minister, timothy kirkhope. you very much. kirkhope. thank you very much. great to have on the show. great to have you on the show. my great to have you on the show. my all right, let's just my hello. all right, let's just start the very beginning, i suppose the rwanda suppose your views on the rwanda deal court's ruling deal and the court's ruling yesterday . well, court

yesterday. yeah, well, the court actually up actually backed up the government, which i'm not surprised about, because they mostly that. but i think doing so it was a bit of a pyrrhic victory for the government really, because what we're going to is although they've to get now is although they've succeeded the court in that succeeded in the court in that instance and they will instance and they probably will be so on the be an appeal. and so on the court also said that yeah okay , court also said that yeah okay, you can do this legally . you're you can do this legally. you're going to have to first of all consider the cases of every asylum seeker before you can deport them to rwanda, which of course, is going to cost a vast of money. it's going to be extremely complicated. and of course, i'm a lawyer but loads of lawyers are going to on the scene pretty quick on this on that because my end. yeah is that because my end. yeah is that the whole point of being sent to rwanda is they sent to rwanda processing which rwanda for processing which implies their is implies to me that their case is going to be considered in rwanda. well, is the rwanda. yeah, well, this is the big really i mean with asylum. i was immigration minister as you rightly i'm not a softie. rightly say, i'm not a softie. and i made sure more people left this country who were here than

i think any minister before or since minister. but the truth of the matter is, when you're deaung the matter is, when you're dealing with asylum them, someone makes an asylum claim in a country , they choose to make a country, they choose to make it until they do . strictly it until they do. strictly speaking, they individually are not illegal. so got a problem straight away on the can? well, yeah, i know mr. ruddock confusing because like i've said, you know my interpretation of i think most people's was that the whole point being sent to was they be to rwanda was they would be processed i suppose processed there, which i suppose meant have to meant that we didn't have to consider but now consider guys here. but now the court saying do it of that court is saying we do it of that case. well, this is going case. yeah, well, this is going to be quite confusing, to say the the the least, because the government to send the least, because the goverrtoant to send the least, because the goverrto rwanda to send the least, because the goverrto rwanda straightend the least, because the goverrto rwanda straight away. them, to rwanda straight away. don't case rwanda don't consider case rwanda decides rwanda them decides. if rwanda gives them asylum , they stay in rwanda. asylum, they stay in rwanda. they come to britain. that they don't come to britain. that is i think the is the bit that i think the moral is here a little moral issue is here a little tncky moral issue is here a little tricky as to whether people actually can be forced to go and claim in a place they don't want to claim it. they have to claim it get if they it when they get there. if they don't it, when get don't claim it, when they get there, there's there, then there's a big international on i

international issue on this. i just think i just think we're wasting lot of money wasting an awful lot of money and this issue. so come and time on this issue. so come on, let's let's say, on, then. let's let's just say, look, what i'm not look, get what you said. i'm not the minister now, patrick, come on. oh, no, but i. but on. oh, no, no, but i. but you're a man in know you're a man in the know everybody. no, no. you see, you know, look, you know, more than look, i tell you off every day. what do you want to i would. would tell you to do? i would. i would tell you what i do this. what i would. i would do this. the thing would do, the first thing i would do, first of all, is to look and see whether clear signs whether there are clear signs of one for instance, one country. for instance, having of people to us who having a lot of people to us who are clearly going to be asylum candid . you desperately try not candid. you desperately try not to say the word albanian. i'll say the word albania. we talk to their government . maybe we're their government. maybe we're giving them aid in way or another. i would say, look , another. i would say, look, you're a country you're meant to be a country that safe. you're not meant that is safe. you're not meant to be a country. there's any danger such , human rights are danger as such, human rights are supposed respect and you supposed to be respect and you look as if you might apply to be an member. at some point. an eu member. at some point. you've to be human right. you've got to be human right. will you tackle this will you please tackle this issue? large numbers issue? because if large numbers of coming from of people are coming from albania country, i'm albania, this country, then i'm sorry we're not going to accept

that. and we give certain that. and we give a certain attitude towards their applications and that might well not be as sympathetic as it would be to people coming from some other country, such as the groups that have come. we've agreed take from ukraine, for agreed to take from ukraine, for instance, and afghanistan , instance, they and afghanistan, so on. so i would change that straightaway. the second thing i would do is to get to work more thoroughly with our european neighbours on this . since we neighbours on this. since we left the eu, i drafted the dubun left the eu, i drafted the dublin agreements which i know everybody says, i think the minister even she said that the home secretary said it was a hopeless thing. the dublin agreement, i don't agree. i spent a lot time on but spent a lot of time on it, but it doesn't perfectly . but it doesn't work perfectly. but at gave us right to at least it gave us the right to send people back over the channel. or just just us in channel. orjust just us in quietly our and quietly getting our viewers and listeners dublin listeners is. so this dublin agreement see agreement you would like to see used exactly well, used a bit more. exactly well, no, like to see it. no, i'd like to see it. redraughted happy redraughted again. i'll be happy to the european union a to give the european union a hand with this they're stuck. hand with this if they're stuck. but of the matter but the truth of the matter is, a share responsibilities and ensuring that you can send people back to another european

country. to somehow get country. we have to somehow get ourselves back to that ourselves attached back to that arrangement. and when we do that and when we get the french to take notice and work us, then we've half dealt a problem. because i wonder whether or not it was been there's been too much stock put the rwanda issue here because really it's not a silver bullet but a lot of people think that might be when you look at the amount of people that actually ultimately that might actually ultimately be there's be able to send, there's a drop in ocean, right? don't in the ocean, right? i don't think going to be a massive deterrent a lot of if deterrent for a lot of people if only 0.5% those people coming only 0.5% of those people coming across going to end up going anyway. take those anyway. you've got to take those also. sure you've also. yeah. you're sure you've got of crooks as who got a load of crooks as well who are actually taking money from? these people, wherever these poor people, wherever they're they're they're coming from, they're taking cash and we're taking a lot of cash and we're not tackling not actually tackling them sufficiently. going sufficiently. say we're going to, arrests. to, but i want to some arrests. i think guy has just been i think a guy has just been arrested, you may. well, arrested, as you may. well, yeah, there's a guy been arrested 24 hours. arrested in the last 24 hours. i'm not sure whether he's a citizen. could be . citizen. even he could well be. whatever is. i to see lots whatever he is. i to see lots more people like him and given serious prison sentence is the

big thing at the moment paraphrasing here really but i think is getting a proper deportation thing with albania so a lot tougher with the albanians and also smashing the human trafficking rings . those human trafficking rings. those are arguably the silver . every are arguably the silver. every one is a bit of a we've got it we've got to be calm collected about it it's an emotional area it's difficult people it's very difficult people everybody has a view on immigration right immigration and asylum right let's be calm let's be collected. but let's be determined. can get sorted determined. we can get it sorted . i'm sure can. look, thank . i'm sure we can. look, thank you . appreciate you you very much. appreciate you coming first coming in. i think it's first i've on the show, but i've had you on the show, but i would like not to be the last. delighted. delighted. right favourite on gb news loads favourite here on gb news loads more to come in the final hour of before that of programme. but before that i'm love you over. i'm going to love you over. okay. latest weather. hello there. i'm chu , host of there. i'm greg chu, host of welcome latest broadcast welcome to our latest broadcast . are sunny for . the met office are sunny for tuesday. blustery showers and overall feeling fresher than monday. and that's a sign of things to come over the next few days, the jet stream close, the uk bringing in further weather but milder always the south but milder always near the south colder near the north. and

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channel back everybody. how on earth is it 5:00 already anyway? rishi sunak's visit he won't budge on nhs pay amid nurses strike on just a day of the walkout by ambulance workers , troops are ambulance workers, troops are being drafted in to mount an ambulance tomorrow. mixed reviews exactly they'll be reviews also exactly they'll be able to do because apparently they're frantic they're undergoing frantic training and ministers training efforts and ministers are telling people basically , are telling people basically, just please, please, for just please, please, please, for the get injured the love of don't get injured tomorrow , the gb news inboxes tomorrow, the gb news inboxes bulging with on this and i will be hearing two viewers very very shortly and of course we'll be the political analyst. well, but

do nhs staff actually have a point? many have been saying the health service is underfunded for years. does it need more money or fund mental reform? we'll a debate between, an we'll have a debate between, an nhs taxpayers . and nhs doctor and a taxpayers. and that a big one. people does that is a big one. people does the actually gets money? it the nhs actually gets money? it just doesn't spend it well because not, some would argue , because not, some would argue, is the crux the matter. and is the crux of the matter. and merry christmas from british airways says if endless strikes aren't enough, be contended with by passengers been whacks now by delays after a computer glitch grounded flights for hours. we'll a travel expert on is great festive getaway a race strike going on there isn't there at heathrow and also anyway all your views today. are you angry the ambulance drugs did the nhs need reform? should we up on travel over we just give up on travel over the christmas period all gb news are gbnews.uk. oh, and we are having a bit a head to head on whether or not we should kowtow to judges . we to you by foreign judges. we just them when comes just ignore them when it comes to rwanda and gb is a gbnews.uk what's not to love people? we've

got a whopping great big idea coming lots . coming your way after lots. thank you and good evening to you.the thank you and good evening to you. the top story on gb news today, portsmouth hospitals university has declared a critical incident, saying its emergency department is now full patients and it has limited to treat those with life threatening conditions and injuries . meanwhile, thousands injuries. meanwhile, thousands of nurses in england, northern ireland and wales are walking out for a second time in under a week. royal college of nursing has warned that could go on for six months unless . an agreement six months unless. an agreement can be reached. it's for a 5% above inflation payroll . but the above inflation payroll. but the government says the demands are unaffordable . the health unaffordable. the health secretary, steve barclay . the secretary, steve barclay. the government has prioritised instead the entire nhs . on pay instead the entire nhs. on pay we have independent process and we have independent process and we have independent process and we have accepted that in full

and. of course that comes on top of extra privatisation of the nhs last year. but we also alongside that need to focus on patients, we need to focus on those pandemic waiting lists . those pandemic waiting lists. get those waiting lists and that's why we've invested the extra 6.6 billion over the next two years. so we prioritised the nhs social care in the autumn statement at a time of difficulty for the economy because we recognise we need to get those things down. well, the general secretary of the rcn , general secretary of the rcn, pat cullen, has the government for failing to even to the negotiating table . i want to say negotiating table. i want to say to the prime this morning, please step in now and do the decent thing on behalf of every and member of the public of, this country and right across the united . but please do the the united. but please do the decent thing also for the nursing staff , get decent thing also for the nursing staff, get round to table and start to me on their behalf . that's the only behalf. that's the only respectful and decent to do. and let's bring these strikes a conclusion by the end of this

week . meanwhile thousands of week. meanwhile thousands of ambulance workers and paramedics are still preparing to strike tomorrow after last minute talks between the government and unions failed to address the issue of pay . the health issue of pay. the health secretary met union this afternoon , but pay discussions afternoon, but pay discussions were off the table instead the government sought reassurance says over strike cover and safety. at least five of ambulance trusts declared critical incidents as . they face critical incidents as. they face unprecedented pressures ahead of the walk out. gmb secretary rachel harrison says its members are pleading with the government to do something . it's absolutely to do something. it's absolutely having a devastating impact on our members . frustration, stress our members. frustration, stress , burnout, exhaustion , low , burnout, exhaustion, low morale by our members into this profession to become health care professionals, to help public and provide patient safety. they feel they are being physically prevented from being able to carry out their jobs. prevented from being able to

carry out their jobs . well, the carry out their jobs. well, the prime minister's reaction has been to back the work of , the been to back the work of, the independent pay review body as he faced questions over nhs strikes appearing before a super committee of mps. rishi sunak defends the government's refusal to increase its to nurses and paramedics , saying the best way paramedics, saying the best way to help the country was not to increase wages but to bring down inflation . i've acknowledged inflation. i've acknowledged that it inflation. i've acknowledged thatitis inflation. i've acknowledged that it is difficult. it's difficult for everybody. inflation is where is and the best way to help them and to help everyone else in the country is for us to get a grip and reduce as quickly as possible. and we need to make sure that the decisions that we make about outcome, make can bring about outcome, because it wrong , because if we get it wrong, we're with high we're still dealing with high inflation in a year's time. that's not going to help. i don't to see that . want to don't want to see that. want to see get back to normal. see things get back to normal. and why having an and that's why having an independent paper is an important part of making those decisions . important part of making those decisions. ukraine's important part of making those decisions . ukraine's president decisions. ukraine's president has visited troops fighting , has visited troops fighting, russian forces on the front

line. volodymyr zelenskyy met military personnel and handed out awards to soldiers . on military personnel and handed out awards to soldiers. on his visit to bermudez in east of the country. it's a city that's seen some of the heaviest fighting recent weeks with president zelenskyy thanking his forces for their courage their resilience and their strength . resilience and their strength. here, a coroner has ruled the 11 victims of the shoreham air in 2015 were unlawfully . the 11 men 2015 were unlawfully. the 11 men died when the aircraft crashed on the a27 an aerial display at the event west sussex. the coroner said the plane crash was a result of poorjudgement made a result of poor judgement made by one pilot when undertaking a manoeuvre. the court also said other victims played no part in their own deaths . scotland is their own deaths. scotland is investigating an allegation of racial abuse after concert live mp bob stewart told an activist to go back to bahrain. the comments were made during a

confrontation last . the mp for confrontation last. the mp for beckenham has apologised but denies he was being racist. the met police . the case was opened met police. the case was opened because of a complaint from sayeed ahmed al wadi. up to date on gb news. more news as it happens now. back to . happens now. back to. patrick okay. welcome back, everybody. now as thousands of nurses are on strike in england, wales and northern between northern today, talks between union and the union representatives and the health secretary to prevent the ambulance tomorrow have ambulance strike tomorrow have failed. yes, you guessed it, steve barclay's restated his commitment to contingent c planning during the meeting. he's refused to negotiate pay he's refused to negotiate on pay much the of unison leader christina magnay. she stated her organisation wasn't being given any room for manoeuvre on pay and therefore had no but to take the strike option. i'm going to

set a strike action again in january. our political reporter olivia utley joins me live in the studio now with the very latest. what's going . yes, so we latest. what's going. yes, so we were speaking the leaders of these three unions who went in to meet steve today and are not happy at all they were hoping to some negotiations on pay but actually the meetings were purely about sorting out emergency critical over the next few days which also doesn't really seem to be sorted . the really seem to be sorted. the meeting was only half an hour long. they weren't happy at all that steve but clearly scheduled an speak to them. so an hour to speak to them. and so essentially no further essentially we're no further ahead.in essentially we're no further ahead. in fact, if anything , ahead. in fact, if anything, we're we've a step we're we've taken a step backwards because we're now heanng backwards because we're now hearing more threats for hearing about more threats for another wave strikes in another wave of strikes in january . this is it. now, january. this is it. now, there's very much two sides to this. ambulance this. i did an ambulance call handler earlier who says you got a bit of a rough ride, but it was because know. was because you didn't know. apparently paid. apparently what she was paid. now the offer that now what the pay offer that she's to or what she's was going to be or what she's was going to be or what she be paid go she wanted to be paid go forward, i four pages is

forward, which i four pages is a bit annoying right. you would want what that is, but want to know what that is, but the flip of is this, the flip side of it is this, which government which is that government doesn't appear entertain the appear willing to entertain the negotiations all. and there's two sides to it on that when it comes yeah there comes to the yeah there definitely it at definitely are and it seems at this stage though steve barclay is quite interested in is actually quite interested in getting round the table as they always push it and having a proper conversation because he's very that it's his legacy that's going to be damaged by all of this because ritchie's calculation that support for strikes will either way quickly when people see the damage it's doing. that seems to be true of train strikes but not quite so sure if nurses strike. so the pubucis sure if nurses strike. so the public is quite sympathetic. so see, is now see, steve barclay is now seemingly trying be bit seemingly trying to be a bit more conciliatory, but more sort of conciliatory, but he been given any he hasn't really been given any wiggle all from number wiggle room at all from number ten and really wants to hold firm on this line that, you know, 19% is unreasonable. he that over and over again he wants to be the voice of reason this argument and apparently is saying that he won't give in to

strikers demands , but if the strikers demands, but if the strikes are called off , he's strikes are called off, he's hinting that there might a bigger pay rise the new year that to be the strategy at the moment but it doesn't really seem to be working and it gives steve barclay very, very little wiggle little wiggle and wiggle little wiggle room. and meanwhile just sitting on meanwhile labourjust sitting on their hands thinking, this their hands thinking, oh, this blows we're in blows over by the time we're in power. a yeah, power. if we have a yeah, essentially there was a hope in government that these strikes would actually reflect really badly on labour because of course, yes , sovereignty is course, yes, sovereignty is about politics. unions pickpocket, etc. that's what happened during the general strike of 1926 and they were sort of hoping that something similar might people would think, we want the part as think, we don't want the part as to do with the unions in charge. but people it seems but actually people it seems looking around them seeing the chaos and thinking , pointing the chaos and thinking, pointing the finger blame at the finger of blame at the government. so labour is, funnily enough, fishing quite pretty here. not actually having to come down too hard on one side or the other and not receiving that flak for it because all the flak is directed

at government as it currently stands. and just to summarise, we've ambulance tomorrow. stands. and just to summarise, we'vmilitarynbulance tomorrow. stands. and just to summarise, we'v military potentially morrow. stands. and just to summarise, we'v military potentially was'ow. the military potentially was definitely being drafted in for that, absolutely very , that, although absolutely very, very little use, it would appeah very little use, it would appear, because they're not actually able to the blue actually able to put the blue lights the speed limit lights on, break the speed limit or a red. some would or go through a red. some would argue might as well just argue you might as well just drive hospital, but drive yourself to hospital, but there go. but the government there you go. but the government crucially at minute, crucially at the minute, absolutely plans to wiggle on absolutely no plans to wiggle on the pay rise that's been proposed . the independent body, proposed. the independent body, no the only the only sort of wiggle room that we see is this suggestion in that if strikes are called off, rishi is perhaps are called off, rishi is perhaps a higher pay rise in the new. but in terms of okay , actually but in terms of okay, actually raising the pay meeting anything like the demands that being proposed there doesn't to be any headway at all. yeah an interesting as well the aslef have said that they're going to strike in january. i know that's not nurses that is of course the railways but specifically the train drivers . i that train drivers. i find that fascinating were fascinating because when were

having discussion having all these discussion about like, about the strikes, it was like, well, what i'm well, look, you know what i'm talking the drivers talking about the drivers because the ones on because they're on the ones on the on the decent money it's more you cleaners, your guards and staff . well, and your platform staff. well, now is obviously as the now is obviously as well the drivers are drivers and, they are on a decent amount money and that decent amount of money and that appear would appear maybe i would suspect less sympathy, less public sympathy, but i don't think it don't know. yes. and i think it does little bit as though does feel a little bit as though mick lynch sort of almost mick lynch is it sort of almost a bit out of his control here because what he keeps maintaining not so maintaining is that it's not so much pay as safety . much about pay as about safety. by much about pay as about safety. by that he means if government push ahead with driver any trains, not having all the staff on trains, then be dangerous. and he's to hedge you know, i say of course, but now you're talking about aslef and about train drivers striking as well. then that's a completely different issue does different issue and does seem like it about pay so mick like it is all about pay so mick lynch perhaps is losing his own grip on. well, there we got olivia thank you very, very much. great to have your impulse and your insights when it comes to realm of these to the political realm of these strikes. i've been in strikes. i've just been told in my now we have a clip of my hand. now we have a clip of when rishi sunak was asked about pubuc when rishi sunak was asked about

public earlier. public sector pay earlier. so let's been very clear let's it always been very clear in expressing gratitude and in expressing my gratitude and admiration for all nhs workers andindeed admiration for all nhs workers and indeed all public sector workers , the world for the job workers, the world for the job that they of acknowledged that it is difficult. it is difficult for everybody because inflation is where is and the best way to help them and to help everyone else in the country for us to get a grip and reduce inflation as quickly as possible. and we need that decisions need to make sure that decisions that can about that we make can bring about that we make can bring about that outcome . because if we get that outcome. because if we get it wrong and we're still dealing with in the time, with high inflation in the time, that's not going to help anybody. want to see anybody. i don't want to see that. things get that. i want to see things get back normal . and that's back to normal. and that's why having independent pay processes , important part of us making decisions and getting them correct, and that's why accepted those recommendations. and so okay so soon out there outlining his views when it comes to the latest nurses strike . yes, we've latest nurses strike. yes, we've got the ambulance trucks tomorrow. the gb news we're the people's channel and we are nothing without you. the viewers. i love the viewers. i love the listeners. so joining

me live now from bedford is lee webb cambridge. got webb from cambridge. we've got carl and this is in carl for him as and this is in relation to nurses struggle relation to the nurses struggle . so ambulance trucks as . so on the ambulance trucks as well, health related well, it's all health related is to your initially . what do to your views initially. what do you about these ? should you feel about these? should they it? should the they be doing it? should the government call government be doing more to call them you think. them off? what do you think. well think it's like this sunak is about inflation and how long have the tories been in? i think it's 12 years, maybe so. who has actually been looking after the money ? why can't they afford to money? why can't they afford to give a decent pay increase ? and give a decent pay increase? and the next thing is, why they sit around the table . let's around the table. let's compromise. we need the nurses. we all need the nurses . full we all need the nurses. full stop. why you know, at this now? yeah. this is the thing we've just heard from our political correspondent there, olivia utley , actually. yes. all right. utley, actually. yes. all right. so the nurses union say 19 point whatever,% look, we could all agree in both major political parties that it's a whopping great big pay rise that would probably be unaffordable . probably be unaffordable. unaffordable. then the unaffordable. but then the

flipside , though, is the flipside, though, is the government even to government isn't even willing to discuss any kind of compromise whatsoever. on whatsoever. lay your views on where we're at this, because tomorrow , hopefully it tomorrow look, hopefully it doesn't happen. but, know , doesn't happen. but, you know, if doesn't happen. but, you know, h need doesn't happen. but, you know, if need an if you desperately need an ambulance, might not able if you desperately need an anget ance, might not able if you desperately need an anget one. might not able if you desperately need an anget one. but might not able if you desperately need an anget one. but i�*night not able if you desperately need an anget one. but i don't not able if you desperately need an anget one. but i don't think able to get one. but i don't think any emergency services be on strike. and the reason it what the to remember, two the nurses have to remember, two years ago in 2020 business is a lot of businesses into the wall to safety the organisation that they work and i think we should say my business was at a stage saved in organisation and it wasn't for and then when i needed them last they were hiding behind barriers being broken down, scared of politics. and that meant that i had a late diagnosis with cancer and was diagnosed stage three this year with cancer. and so the nhs is working work, it needs total reform, we need look at countries like the netherlands, denmark and maybe germany to see how their system works because their systems work pretty well. we to emulate that layer, we need to emulate that layer, a layer of look obviously firstly very, very sorry to hear that

and i wish you the best and i wish you all the best because. stick with you because. i'll stick with you before carol. before i throw it back to carol. sorry, carol. that lee, you sorry, carol. that lee, do you think they should have been on strike because ? they're already strike because? they're already paid enough . strike because? they're already paid enough. i their pay strike because? they're already paid enough . i their pay seems paid enough. i their pay seems to be pretty good. now we don't have this inflation which is caused by lockdowns, as far as i'm concerned and the ioc and the commission nurses must have known that before in 2020, any of the other people did and they questioned it. but then we got the deniers and killers and grannies and, things like that. and if we at the people that are actually working tomorrow the zambians, the soldiers now newly qualified soldiers on about £21,000, that's off has come out of the phase one of phase two training and qualified nurses on £27,000. and then the wage goes up to something lik e £40,000. up to something like £40,000. that would be an experience , that would be an experience, sergeant. it would have. that's why the wage is low , you know, why the wage is low, you know, so the guys that work working

smart trying to cover these really strong for the pay they paid a lot less what you mean that potentially a will go on strike so a lot to come back to that i'll let you come back to it what do you think about what let's just have to say i think like you said earlier there is a flipside to everything . but i flipside to everything. but i think we need to go. i mean , can think we need to go. i mean, can talk about my whole career talk about wages my whole career was recruitment and you can talk about you know some people about wages you know some people are good some people are saying is good some people won't relative at the won't it's all relative at the end day. sunak focusing end of the day. sunak focusing his attention on inflation. he should have been doing that years ago. and so we wouldn't in this mess. and so the nurses would be happier with their wages because their money would be going further the same all of us . could i ask you, carl, us could. could i ask you, carl, do you think the timing this is bad? the inflow is that bad? i get the inflow is that the level that it is out now the cost crisis is where cost of living crisis is where we the minute but at this we are at the minute but at this particular time of year , it's particular time of year, it's christmas. the weather is cold already overstretched resources

. no matter what we do coal is it is it poor form to be going on strike now i think it's very sad. i don't i mean. i hear what you say. in fact, it was only two weeks ago my husband said they ended up in in a car accident was on his bicycle hit by a vehicle because he didn't him and he we were waiting over 2 hours then so yeah you know we all have our stories. 2 hours then so yeah you know we all have our stories . yes, of all have our stories. yes, of course . cold the christmas is course. cold the christmas is a bad time. everything seems to be going wrong at the moment. everyone's out on strike. nobody's happy. it seems . and i nobody's happy. it seems. and i do understand if you gave in to one, you have to give in to others, the nurses and the whole nhs. it needs . we're throwing so nhs. it needs. we're throwing so much money at it. we're not looking at our own . we look, we looking at our own. we look, we should look after our own before . we throw money around and all the illegal immigrants that are in and foreign is going in and foreign aid is going abroad. let's look after our own people . and then if have

people. and then if have anything left, then we can spend all that we want . you make it all that we want. you make it theory. you make a series a great point. and this is on new ones. this this debate is right because within the elements where you only disagree . sure, where you only disagree. sure, there are areas where you do agree there's no quick agree as well. there's no quick fix. mean, for what worth? fix. but i mean, for what worth? absolutely. 100% agree with the idea so much idea that we're lobbing so much money different parts money to various different parts the i mean, india got the world. i mean, india has got a give them some a space and we give them some foreign you at foreign aid. and you look at what costing every what it's costing us every single in the single day going on in the channel haven't got the channel and we haven't got the money people you know, money for people who, you know, are actually saving lives in this every day or this country every day or veterans, mean, does veterans, etc. i mean, it does seem skewed, like seem a bit skewed, but like i just ask you on that one now, do you maybe a question you think it's maybe a question of the of we already give the nhs enough money , they just spend it enough money, they just spend it poorly? oh the taxpayer need to pump money into it because pump more money into it because we've got a big debate on this coming want to get coming up. and i want to get your on the think we your views on the i think we need at the nhs is need to look at the nhs is run because up more and because keeps taking up more and more every single year more money every single year it's a problem where the nhs is asking for more and more running

money and it doesn't actually any better. think it needs any better. so i think it needs reform and with the nurses, yes , they do deserve a pay rise % , they do deserve a pay rise% now maybe about 3 to 5. i would say . but they need to be doing say. but they need to be doing that on the back of reform of the nhs and it needs to be and a model that we've got. so i can the netherlands, germany denmark, etc. yeah all right, both of you, thank you very very much. great to have you on the show and hope, by the way, you he'd the government's advice, which is basically please dougall next couple days dougall the next couple days don't play any contacts what is it don't don't go out and drink too much and end up with black eye or a broken nose. don't show like the fighting type. so i'm sure so i thank you very much by the i'll get you back on again virtually if i don't see you before christmas. have a wonderful web wonderful christmas italy web from cambridge from karl fordham from cambridge right now. one of the reasons why sadly to those why i've sadly had to cut those a is because a bit short is because apparently just got some apparently i've just got some breaking geoffrey breaking news for you, geoffrey good. it isn't. good. no, of course it isn't. but drivers in london are set to

stage of more more stage a fresh of more more strikes for fresh wave of strikes for a fresh wave of strikes for a fresh wave of strike . a dispute over pay . strike. a dispute over pay. members of unite employed valeo in south west london will strike for days in late december and throughout january . the bus throughout january. the bus drivers have already taken ten days of strike action. the dispute initially involved 950 drivers but unite its membership has since doubled . right. so has since doubled. right. so we've got some more info for you this. in case you couldn't tell, i'm finding this out with the alleged enhancements that strike i fresh i in strike days. the fresh strikes take place on the strikes will take place on the 24th. 27th and the 31st of 24th. the 27th and the 31st of december. and the fourth. the fifth. the 10th. the 12th. the 16th. the 19th. the 25th. and the 26th of january. you know in general secretary sharon, graeme , a fellow is content to hold mountains of cash, but has imposed a completely unacceptable offer on its drivers. it disgraceful behaviour and all are rightly furious. unite always fights to defend and improve members jobs,

pay defend and improve members jobs, pay and conditions and. a bellicose south and west london have their union unflinching support. so unite said that more strikes will be scheduled if the dispute is not resolved. right. okay so basically in a nutshell, them we've got bus drivers going on strike, supposedly there was some kind of pay offer which wasn't good. and those strike days, which i think most people will care about. oh, will really care about. oh, that's the 27th, the that's wonderful. the 27th, the sist that's wonderful. the 27th, the 31st the fourth, 31st of december, the fourth, the fifth, the 10th, the 12th, the fifth, the 10th, the 12th, the 19th, the 25th and the 16th, the 19th, the 25th and 20 january. and yes , yes. so 20 january. and yes, yes. so we'll bring you more on that as and when it comes to us. but if you are hoping to get a bus around one of those days, around on one of those days, then swivel. have then you can swivel. just have to taxi about to look at to get a taxi about to look at things. right? okay know, we things. right? okay you know, we may on news may patrick christys on gb news on richie been on up. richie sunak has been grilled by in his grilled by employees in his first the leganes first appearance at the leganes on afternoon. the on committee this afternoon. the liaison a liaison committee sounds like a private anyway. liaison committee sounds like a priva been anyway. liaison committee sounds like a priva been quizzed anyway. liaison committee sounds like a privabeen quizzed on anyway. liaison committee sounds like a privabeen quizzed on all|yway. liaison committee sounds like a privabeen quizzed on all|ywa big he's been quizzed on all the big issues immigration to the issues from immigration to the economy his record economy and nhs and his record as chancellor . we'll have the as chancellor. we'll have the latest. my political editor, darren but before all darren mccaffrey. but before all of a little

of that, let's have a little look at your weather. hello there. i'm host and welcome there. i'm greg host and welcome to latest broadcast from , to our latest broadcast from, the sunny spells the met office. sunny spells tuesday, blustery showers and feeling fresher than monday. and that's a sign of things to come. the next few days, the jet stream close uk bringing stream close to the uk bringing in weather but milder, in further weather but milder, always near the south, colder air near the north. and perhaps the colder air sinking little the colder air sinking a little further southwards the as we further southwards. the uk as we head into the christmas weekend for the rest of tuesday dry for much of england and wales, though later rumbles , see though later rumbles, see showers in and these showers moving in and these become even more frequently head into blustery into the early hours. blustery showers continue across scotland, northern ireland as perhaps turning more persistent into the early hours here. so overall, quite cloudy nights come still breezy. so temperatures holding around five or six degrees, perhaps under any clearer spells. a touch of frost, seven parts of scotland, northern england. so a cloudy, wet start to wednesday morning. outbreaks of rain its way south and east brighter skies and east with brighter skies following much of england following across much of england and wales. but northern england,

northern ireland and scotland holding on cloudy skies. holding on to cloudy skies. outbreaks rain outbreaks of showery rain through the day and still fairly blustery light winds further south, temperatures the sunshine could reach around 11 celsius, but most will be between but for most will be between seven and nine. so feeling a little but not too bad for the time . year three for wednesday time. year three for wednesday evening dry across england wales and initially showers across scotland and northern ireland. but on as we head into the but later on as we head into the early hours thick of cloud outbreaks of rain will back in from the atlantic. of this from the atlantic. some of this could times so overall could heavy at times so overall with a lot of cloud around number re—unite for most of us temperatures holding up around mid single figures that means mid to single figures that means a cloudy start to thursday . a cloudy start to thursday. outbreaks of rain across central and northern of the uk , but and northern of the uk, but through the day it should lift and break a little to allow a few glimmers of sunshine ahead of further rain, trying to move in from south—west. colder in from the south—west. colder air moving in across air also moving in across scotland that tries push in scotland and that tries push in further scotland and into further across scotland and into northern ireland. northern england over the next few days, turning bit colder.

okay. welcome back, everybody. now we're going to be having a little bit of a chance about the old rwanda plan, really, sunak, because he expressed his joy. his at the idea now that his delight at the idea now that the court kind of ruled in the high court kind of ruled in his you're also to his favour, you're also going to be whopping big be having a whopping great big debate on whether not the nhs already enough money . already receives enough money. they it better they should just spend it better and oh, yet and get to work. oh, and yet travel absolutely travel chaos by absolutely shocking . i mean, it's shocking. i mean, it's christmas. don't get ill and you should a party and you should be fine a party and you have like the have a burst pipe like the people the south of england. people in the south of england. the prime minister has very senior this afternoon senior earlier this afternoon and his appearance in front of the been grilled the committee. he's been grilled over the cost of living crisis ongoing strikes and scottish independence as well. why not lockdown's the next conservative mp for north—west

leicestershire, bridgen leicestershire, andrew bridgen has suspended as has actually been suspended as well from the house of commons for five days. apparently for a series breaches lobbying . series of breaches of lobbying. his have picked balance out his have picked up balance out of is political of all of is our political editor gerry mccaffery with the latest. rishi got a grilling i thought he looked lucky with it. all right. from the clips i've seen seen . yeah, indeed he seen seen. yeah, indeed he answers the questions he wants to answer . he answers the questions he wants to answer. he very much puts all the other ones he does want to do on the back foot. patrick he's got rather quite good it he's got rather quite good at it in quite a short space of time he there's something i.e. there's something controversial. example, controversial. for example, all you going to increase tax rates on petrol by 23% to $0.12 elite to from next march's plans. is that still on the table well that's a decision for the chancellor and we'll make that decision in due the same over strike legislation next year or the number of illegal migrants who might be sent to rwanda. do you have any idea the numbers that might come here next year? the numbers that be central wonder. i don't i'm not going to speculate on all of says the

prime minister. so in many ways , committee , yes, it was a committee meeting that was didn't really generate many headlines from the prime minister's point of view will be a thing. interestingly, though, a couple of topics. first of all, on ukraine, he was insistent that reports the weekend this kind of review weekend that this kind of review of contribution to the war effort in ukraine was somehow an attempt maybe to roll back, he insisted the in the insisted that is the case in the uk remains as committed as it always has and on strike action which didn't but did come up at time and time again, is his idea about not engaging the nurses and the paramedics and everyone else on pay. his argument inflation is that if were to adopt these pay rewards , it adopt these pay rewards, it would simply fuel the very cause of the problem, he inflation , of the problem, he inflation, and that he is not going to cave all of that. but in saying that it is pretty tricky for the government all this you listen to paramedics, nurses , they say to paramedics, nurses, they say they cannot guarantee that people may not need this. he died this week because these died this week because of these strikes and yet public opinion

when the appeal when you look at the appeal polls seemed to suggest polls patrick seemed to suggest that the public particularly on nurses and paramedics are the side of the health care workers , not of the government. and if there a backlash, there is a backlash, all of these strikes, likely these strikes, it is likely would suggest, least in the would suggest, at least in the immediate is government immediate, it is the government that's likely to suffer the consequences that, not those consequences of that, not those that in the nhs. yes there that work in the nhs. yes there just to round off this particular political section. andrew bridgen , because there andrew bridgen, because there are two mp for north—west leicestershire in hot water isn't he . yeah, he is indeed. he isn't he. yeah, he is indeed. he has been for a while actually patrick, he's lost an appeal today though against a ruling by the standards committee in november that he effectively broken lobbying rules, paid advocacy, if you like most , advocacy, if you like most, civil times. they've said it multiple that had he had a cavalier attitude towards the parliamentary rules and he is not likely find himself suspended from parliament five days now mpc go on the christmas hols literally around so that suspension will not be until the

new year but it's pretty damaging would say for the north—west leicestershire now he denies any wrongdoing this is all linked to paid advocacy work he was receiving from a firm near his constituency and indeed for a trip that was paid for to ghana. as i say, he denies any wrongdoing , ghana. as i say, he denies any wrongdoing, but the parliamentary authorities have that. he wasn't terribly clear and transparent about all of this. they say it really gets to the heart integrity in parliament that . if you're going parliament that. if you're going to lobby, you've got to ask questions commons if questions in the commons if you're letters you're going to write letters to ministers need to be open and transparent about connections you may outside of this to you may have outside of this to other parts of the world, or indeed to business. and on that they argue. andrew bridgen fell short. okay darren, thank you very much. darren mccaffrey that our political wasn't any through rishi sunak's appearance at the liaison committee which covered frankly strikes to the frankly from the strikes to the other strikes to the other strikes to the scale of the strikes to the scale of the strikes . strike, strike strikes. strikes. strike, strike strikes. oh, and of course , a bit on

oh, and of course, a bit on rwanda and apparently an independent scotland as well. why that in anyway? why not throw that in anyway? you mean patrick you are with mean patrick christys. coming up is why christys. now coming up is why we spicier end of the we got to the spicier end of the show, it? the show, doesn't it? so does the nhs actually more money or nhs actually need more money or fundamental going nhs actually need more money or fu|be mental going nhs actually need more money or fu|be having going nhs actually need more money or fu|be having a going nhs actually need more money or fu|be having a whopping going to be having a whopping great big on. when he big debate on. so when he represents they want represents taxpayers they want more money but other more value for money but other people thinking that people as well of thinking that actually give actually need to just give nurses little bit more in nurses a little bit more in terms of pay gbviews@gbnews.uk very much two sides to that i've got all of that coming your way. also, i'm going to be you a clip from rishi sunak on the rwanda latest. serious latest. some serious question marks remarkably, still marks still remarkably, still about not any of about whether or not any of these plans actually going these plans are actually going take your views take off. keynes, get your views on got the on it, including we've got the views who just got views of nicholas who just got in to please , please in touch to say, please, please send wonder, i want send me. sorry, wonder, i want to this. i got up. well, to leave this. i got up. well, nick laughs maybe just get it if i across the channel and i come across the channel and potentially we help potentially one day we can help you over there as well but now we're going to go to your headunes we're going to go to your headlines colin . patrick. headlines with colin. patrick. thank you and good evening to

you.the thank you and good evening to you. the top stories this hour, hospitals, university trust has declared a critical incident , declared a critical incident, saying its emergency department is full of patients and that it now has limited space to treat those with life threatening conditions and injuries. meanwhile, thousands of nurses , meanwhile, thousands of nurses, england's northern ireland and wales are walking out for the second time in under a week. royal college of nursing has warned could go on warned the actions could go on for six months and less. an agreement reached. it's agreement can be reached. it's calling for a 5% above inflation pay ' calling for a 5% above inflation pay , but the government says its pay, but the government says its demands unaffordable. the health secretary , steve barclay, says secretary, steve barclay, says the government priority for the government has priority for the government has priority for the nhs . on pay we have the entire nhs. on pay we have independent process and we have that in full and. of course that comes on top of extra privatisation of the nhs last year. privatisation of the nhs last year . we also alongside that year. we also alongside that need focus on patients. we need to focus on those pandemic waiting lists , get those waiting waiting lists, get those waiting lists and that's why we've invested the 6.6 billion over the next two years. so we

prioritised the nhs social care in the autumn statement at a time of difficulty for the economy because we recognise we need to get those down. meanwhile, thousands of ambulance and paramedics are preparing to go on strike tomorrow after last minute talks between the government and their unions failed to address the issue of pay as well. the health secretary met union representatives this afternoon . representatives this afternoon. pay discussions were off the table . instead, the government table. instead, the government sought reassure , insist over sought reassure, insist over strike cover and patients . at strike cover and patients. at least five ambulance trusts have declared critical as they face unprecedented ahead of the walkout . but the prime unprecedented ahead of the walkout. but the prime minister has backed the work of the independent pay review body as he faces questions over nhs strikes . appearing before strikes. appearing before a supercommittee of mps, rishi sunak defended government's refusal to increase its offer to nurses and paramedics . he also nurses and paramedics. he also said the best way to help the country was not to increase but to bring down inflation . to bring down inflation. scotland yard's investigators an

allegation of racial abuse after conservative mp bob stewart told an activist to go back to bahrain . the comments were made bahrain. the comments were made dunng bahrain. the comments were made during a confrontation last week. the mp for beckenham has apologised but denies that he was being racist. apologised but denies that he was being racist . the met police was being racist. the met police says the case was opened after a complaint from saif ahmed al wadi . those are the headlines wadi. those are the headlines you're up to date on tv online and dab plus radio with gb news. don't go anywhere. we're back in a tick tick . a tick tick. a quick snapshot of today's markets for you. the pound will buy you $1.215 markets for you. the pound will buy you $1215 and 1. 1 ,47. the buy you $1215 and 1.1 ,47. the price of gold . is £1,497.69 an price of gold. is £1,497.69 an ounce. and the footsie closed today at 7370 points .

welcome back, everybody right now, nurses are entering their second day of action in a long running dispute over pay and conditions is fuelling the debate over nhs and staffing in the health service is now at fever pitch because royal college of nursing is understood be for a pay rise of % be asking for a pay rise of% above inflation . but with the above inflation. but with the government so far holding firm , government so far holding firm, many are asking is nhs actually underfunded ? all and this is the underfunded? all and this is the big question okay which one would you got to debate on it right because i want you to know the just the main answer to this does the nhs actually need more money? taxpayer have to money? does the taxpayer have to spend more money on it? or could nurses else get nurses and everyone else get a pay nurses and everyone else get a pay rise based on the amount of money you and i are already lobbying towards nhs so here to

pick this is elliot cack investigations campaign manager at the taxpayers alliance and dr. tolu underpaid you who is an nhs doctor. thank you very much, both of you. i'll start with you right . does the nhs already right. does the nhs already receive enough of our money? they just need to spend it better. i think that's indisputable the case. looking at the evidence, the nhs has seen an increase in funding every year for decades as regardless of the conditions in the real economy types of spending on the nhs up from 160 billion in 2010 to now 276 billion in 2010 to now 276 billion in 2010 to now 276 billion in 2022 , and that's up billion in 2022, and that's up by 50 billion since 2019. and we've just seen billions more announced in the autumn statement. so the very, very evidence have is that we're evidence we have is that we're spending money. it'sjust spending enough money. it's just not don't it not being properly don't turn it over to you. do you think that the times penneys spent more money nhs give nurses money on the nhs to give nurses a pay money on the nhs to give nurses a pay rise, or should some different levels of management a pay rise, or should some diffeg0|t levels of management a pay rise, or should some diffego ?levels of management a pay rise, or should some diffego ? levels of management a pay rise, or should some diffego ? i meanf management a pay rise, or should some diffego ? i mean , management a pay rise, or should some diffego ? i mean , i'd nagement a pay rise, or should some diffego ? i mean , i'd sayament a pay rise, or should some diffego ? i mean , i'd say in ent just go? i mean, i'd say in terms of how the money is managed currently nhs, i mean i would with you, i mean as can be

managed better , but in terms of managed better, but in terms of needing more money, it's a it's pubuc needing more money, it's a it's public funded health care system that will always need more money . unfortunately there's, there's no there's no way around that. and that's my opinion to do so. do you think the public get value for money at the minute? i know a lot people do of nhs horror stories, don't they? i know it saves a lot of lives as. well, obviously, but i think people the quality people are concerned the quality of got all the of care they've got all the time. well, i'd the quality of care nhs is you know care provided in nhs is you know kind of currently working with what have resources what we have and the resources we i mean lot of the we do use. i mean lot of the care that's provided the current nhs staff is, you know, kind of overworked on the page, you know, staying late and you should , especially during the should, especially during the ward rounds and situations where you shouldn't have to do ward rounds and just being not having the resource that you need to actually conduct safe nhs and that's what we're currently working with i'd say in terms of the money that's being spent on the money that's being spent on

the nhs i'd say yeah, we could actually get more value for money into what we at wards. yeah. eliot well what do you think then about taxpayers getting value for money? because i people felt as though i think if people felt as though they getting they were already getting value for then they'd for money on this, then they'd be, they'd be be, you know, they'd be more inclined to nurses try and inclined maybe to nurses try and give them a bit of a bump but you on well listen you always on not well listen i don't anybody doesn't want don't think anybody doesn't want to getting pay to see and chest getting a pay rise think if it were the rise i think if it were the pubuc rise i think if it were the public they have public sector work as they have one absolutely strongest one of the absolutely strongest cases for getting pay rise and cases for getting a pay rise and that's really up to the government and to the nhs to make our funds are make sure that our funds are better used because we have one of the highest spends , health of the highest spends, health care. not the absolute care. we're not the absolute top, not far off top, but we're not that far off where sort of 10th in oecd where about sort of 10th in oecd countries. and yet we consistently perform the consistently perform near the bottom terms outcomes. so bottom in terms of outcomes. so it's very clear when it's very very clear when you look that money being look at the way that money being used the nhs, is used in the nhs, that is completely there's many completely and there's so many examples ways , you for examples of ways, you know, for example, taxpayers, airlines example, the taxpayers, airlines and week out and covers week in, week out take 800 grand on gender neutral day seven on your grand on internal staff magazines or a million quid on staff networks

and a problem that is and this is a problem that is replicated the nhs. replicated right across the nhs. and really serious and until we get really serious with afraid are going with waste i'm afraid are going to be fighting for a pay rise year in, out. okay, now year in, year out. okay, now look , let's tell you, i think look, let's tell you, i think you be about to laugh at you might be about to laugh at me and hate me, but me here and maybe hate me, but there argument that some there is an argument that some people make, which is if you do sign up to go into the medical, you sign up to go into the medical, you pay sign up to go into the medical, you pay on line. you can see your pay on line. we're very sorry, but you just got to work . what do you think? got to work. what do you think? i mean, it's we have to look at, you know, the work that nhs and the staff does mean. that's a very interesting point that you make when . you think about, you make when. you think about, you know, what happened during the pandemic when think about pandemic when you think about the conditions we're the kind of conditions we're working think about working in, when you think about the workers the risk to health care workers lives mean yeah we do lives i mean yeah we do understand as part parcel understand that as part parcel of the job but then that be paid accordingly. doesn't accordingly. i mean it doesn't because do it because we because we do it because we should doesn't that we shouldn't get paid accordingly. should doesn't that we shouldn't get paid accordingly . okay. fair get paid accordingly. okay. fair enough, eliot do you think that the public would be willing to

accept not more so basically the pubuc accept not more so basically the public finance is revolving around our health care system , around our health care system, essentially. so do you think that the taxpayer go right? well, that is one area where we're willing overspend in we're willing to overspend in that i think the that sense. well i think the pubucis that sense. well i think the public is broadly very, very to support very high health support very, very high health care spending. and we have very high health spending within high health care spending within a about 50% of a couple of years about 50% of day to day public spending will be on the health care system. so already extremely but the already really extremely but the problem that the advocate for more nhs funding have is there's a point at which it's going stop. they're always going to ask for an extra five, ten, 15 just on the alley. so it's a to cut costs on that. but i think that's a really key point, which is there any evidence whatsoever to suggest that if we did give the you know, x more money the nhs, you know, x more money that would actually we that that would actually we would see a result that money. is there any evidence to suggest that far as you're concerned, it well . if you look at all the

well. if you look at all the health care systems, they do much, much better and have much better outcomes with similar and even less public spending. now, i'm not an expert on every single health care system in the world, and so i can't necessarily provide, you know, any details , analysis of which any details, analysis of which health care system is best. but what's absolutely clear, looking at the international comparisons what's absolutely clear, looking at thatinternational comparisons what's absolutely clear, looking at that forernational comparisons what's absolutely clear, looking at that for amount l comparisons what's absolutely clear, looking at that for amount ofomparisons what's absolutely clear, looking at that for amount of money ;ons what's absolutely clear, looking at that for amount of money we is that for amount of money we spend, we have pretty poor outcomes. we do need to outcomes. and so we do need to look at the way that the system is. doctor, i'm aware that one of the big issues is not just about about recruitment about pay is about recruitment and retention now pay would have and retention now pay would have a with that in view as a bit to do with that in view as an doctor , do you think that an nhs doctor, do you think that if people were paid more? i'm being very broad here because be very general about it. if people were paid more nurses or yourself or whoever , they will yourself or whoever, they will be more inclined to tolerate the working . or do you think that working. or do you think that both need to change no matter what i say for fact, if health care workers actually felt valued by the health care system in terms of how much were being

paid, are they being treated? it's the ins and outs of working . it's not trying to get your houday . it's not trying to get your holiday on time, trying to get extra hours for trying to do overtime and getting that paid for. that's all the basic day to day things that you wouldn't expect and other businesses. but unfortunately you an unfortunately you do get an address if that paid accordingly. mean, i'd say accordingly. i mean, i'd say that the health workers that the health care workers would grateful and see would be grateful and see a drastic change in and front is if we're being honest. and just just lastly on this is more pay than conditions right? it's a bit both. i mean , pay is bit both. i mean, pay is directly proportional to conditions in terms of if you're getting paid a certain amount, do a certain job. then happier doing the job because at least then you're get paid an adequate amount it whereas if you are put in a situation where you're doing the job with two, three people and you essentially you can't cope, then do you complain to fair enough that now i am covering for mark steyn tonight special people tune in for that. thank very both you

thank you very much. both of you thoroughly discussion thoroughly enjoy that discussion . stuff. turley, . great stuff. dr. turley, i would have you on would love to have you back on again, thank very again, actually. thank you very much. out of you much. i was totally out of you that an doctor? course, that an nhs doctor? of course, anyone investigations anyone who is investigations campaign at the campaign manager at the alliance. great stuff . right. alliance. great stuff. right. okay, so what a sort of debate. so yesterday the high court ruled that the government's intention asylum intention to relocate asylum seekers to rwanda was indeed lawful, as you might expect, which see now was questioned over reaction to the over his reaction to the decision he appeared in decision when he appeared in front committee, front of the liaison committee, which convinced is a which i am convinced is a private member's club similar to the but yes, the liaison the area. but yes, the liaison committee he was there earlier. here's what he to say. here's what he had to say. i believe the rwanda's represents an part of our plan to an important part of our plan to tackle migration , stop small tackle migration, stop small boats. it's not the only part of it, but it's an important part of it. that's why? i welcomed the yesterday. the court decision yesterday. thank prime thank you. very good. prime minister, said that the minister, you've said that the aim is that anybody who arrives illegally will not stay here . illegally will not stay here. and some lawyers advising you that that can be done without setting aside any aspects of the

eci or the human rights act. others are saying it cannot be done. others are saying it cannot be done . how are you going to judge done. how are you going to judge that question? because if you take wrong advice and they keep arriving and staying , that won't arriving and staying, that won't add much credibility to your objective . i said will introduce objective. i said will introduce legislation in the new year which will achieve the aim that i set out . and the legislation i set out. and the legislation is one part of an overall that i set out to parliament recently. and i'm confident that we can deliver on that plan and it will make difference and reduce the number . right. well, number of boats. right. well, that was rarely seen out there. liaison committee initially discussing the rwanda deal . discussing the rwanda deal. we're talking if planes potentially don't take it off. british airways issued an apology after a technical error delayed large of flights delayed a large of flights cross across the usa and the caribbean. passengers left facing long queues to get home after the airline blamed third party for the party planners for the disruption. whilst ba is now claiming the issue is now resolved, numerous passengers have been left stranded just

days before christmas. now with me in the studio is sally , who me in the studio is sally, who is travel and aviation expert. is a travel and aviation expert. sally commuters, they can't get anywhere. these days whether it's trains , automobiles, it's trains, automobiles, nothing is happening for them but going to explain the situation. people are stranded for christmas are yeah totally came out of left field because people were expecting the industrial action at airports to kick in in a few time and kick in in a few days time and that still will by way. that still will by the way. but this big mistake of its it this is a big mistake of its it outsource some software flight planning software to a third party and that failed for several and caused backups across the atlantic. so passengers that from the canbbean passengers that from the caribbean were trying to get in and of course that backed up over those other countries coming to back into the uk. but it also a knock on effect throughout the whole network. what you have is people even sleeping on the aisles of plane when it's on the ground, waiting to depart. and of course all the

bags pile up as well. yeah. well absolutely everything. and look, you mentioned the industrial action, i mean, i'll stick the theme of the day, which is that everyone's strike and that is still going to happen. how is that going people, that going to impact people, you think? border think? yes. so we have border strikes kick in from strikes going to kick in from the 23rd, 26th and again after christmas up to new year and. that's again, going to impact people coming into the uk because . it affects the check it because. it affects the check it when you come in the e—gates and only check in at that point with your passport control. well i was due to fly back british airways from aberdeen last weekend to cut a long story short, i ended up on an overnight sleeper train. my back has not recovered, so i've some recent history with that and. i couldn't help but notice that they cancelled the flight late in the day and if you are now flying with b.a. in the day and if you are now flying with ba. or with anyone else, i mean, how can you get your money back? so the basic is if it's within the airline's control in words that it's not something like bad weather, the

airline is responsible and it pay you airline is responsible and it pay you compensation and also it owes you food and beverage and accommodation overnight that's required as well. and the aviation regulator , the uk has aviation regulator, the uk has a of information on that. if passengers to check. well, i'll tell you what i feel incredibly sorry for british airways because the way i and they're going end having to going to end up having to remortgage properties remortgage whatever properties they've that. but they've got and all of that. but there look, is there we go. look, it is obviously bad, very bad news for commuters and of this stuff commuters and all of this stuff and people to home and people looking to get home for would wish for christmas. but we would wish them it. you're not them well. take it. you're not flying christmas. flying anywhere this christmas. no, no, i'm a keeping close to home. it closed. but i do home. keep it closed. but i do have plans in the new year because of. all right, well, look, very, much. and look, you very, very much. and i appreciate coming . you appreciate you coming. you weren't by any weren't held up by any industrial anything like weren't held up by any indusbut anything like weren't held up by any indus but it's nything like weren't held up by any indusbut it's great|g like weren't held up by any indus but it's great to .ike that. but look, it's great to have help business. have your help business. well, if you before the if i don't see you before the sailing, think travel sailing, i think that travel and aviation, you aviation, fingers crossed you at home. now you're listening. lee radio. you to get where radio. you managed to get where you as just got you want to go as well. just got time couple of quick time for a couple of quick emails. think you use gb

emails. i think you use the gb news you've been news you carlos you've been getting over the course getting in touch over the course of show, least on the of this show, not least on the nhs what nhs strike actually on what is action. don't think action. i don't think it's sustainable throwing sustainable to keep throwing more out of the more and more money out of the nhs. from louise. at nhs. this is from louise. at what point we agree it's fit what point we agree it's not fit for time for for purpose. it's time for change. i get that, change. yeah, i get that, louise, but know that's a big question itself. doubt question in itself. no doubt when settled, when the dust has settled, people asking that when people will be asking that when they nhs crisis they want the nhs crisis is looking bath looking overflowing. bath you can people around it with can put people around it with bouquets but at some point people turn off tap people have to turn off the tap and from chris thank you and that is from chris thank you very everybody has been very much everybody has been getting in touch and hope getting in touch and i do hope as of you wonderful people as all of you wonderful people out weather out there, the cold weather draws etc, that are not too draws, etc, that you are not too badly affected comes to badly affected when it comes to the going strike and the nurses going on strike and the nurses going on strike and the strikes and all of the ambulance strikes and all of this and strike this stuff, try and strike a deal this stuff, try and strike a deal. really. have managed this stuff, try and strike a de pickeally. have managed this stuff, try and strike a de pickeally.way'e managed this stuff, try and strike a de pickeally.way through anaged this stuff, try and strike a de pickeally.way through it. aged to pick your way through it. hopefully one day soon we can do a got more news a show. got more good news in it, but talking news and it, but talking of good news and indeed up next indeed great people. up next is michelle dewberry wonderful michelle dewberry the wonderful michelle dewberry the wonderful michelle dewbs& michelle dewberry with dewbs& co. be whizzing through co. she'll be whizzing through everything in the next hour. we'll her second, but we'll go to her a second, but just little heads up as just a little cheeky heads up as well will be putting it from

here in a matter of minutes over to where be to westminster, where i will be from our westminster studios covering for the wonderful something recuperating. something mark is recuperating. we'll be back very shortly. don't that yes don't worry about that but yes i believe we can go to michelle. yeah, there you go. we looked very christmasy was on the show. thankis very christmasy was on the show. thank is my last day before christmas i thought get into the swing or the old christmas swing of it or the old christmas jumper patrick i some old jumper patrick i wanted some old one what can i say? one as well, but what can i say? people deliver on shirt people didn't deliver on shirt tonight. nurses are we any further forward in terms of seeing the end , this dispute or seeing the end, this dispute or not? so i want to get into tonight's also retiring early is that to blame for the crisis in the workforce we find ourselves in and also i want to talk to you about ukraine which is sunak is saying it's going to do an audh is saying it's going to do an audit of the spending ukraine some are saying goodness. finally, some common sense . finally, some common sense. others saying get lost counter. that's not how you win a war. and also i want to get into some christmas stuff as well . good christmas stuff as well. good stuff, michelle. thank you very much. to michelle much. it's going to be michelle dewberry co

dewberry that with dewbs& co coming just a matter of coming way in just a matter of seconds. i'll be on these screens later on when a couple of steyn and will you of mark steyn and i will see you in. oh, a couple hours in. oh, just a couple hours time. hello there. greg time. a hello there. i'm greg chu, of welcome to our chu, host of welcome to our latest broadcast from met office. sunny spells office. there are sunny spells tuesday, blustery showers and overall feeling fresher than monday . and that's a sign of monday. and that's a sign of things to come over the next few days. jet close to days. the jet stream close to the uk bringing further weather systems milder, always near the uk bringing further weather syst south, milder, always near the uk bringing further weather syst south, colder er, always near the uk bringing further weather syst south, colder redalways near the uk bringing further weather systsouth, colder red nears near the uk bringing further weather syst south, colder red near the ar the south, colder red near the north perhaps colder air north and perhaps the colder air a southwards a little further southwards across . as head into across. the uk as we head into the christmas weekend for the rest of tuesday, dry for much england and wales though later run will showers moving in and these become even more frequently head into the early hours showers across hours blustery showers across scotland northern ireland as well perhaps turning more persistent into the early hours . so overall, quite a cloudy night come still breezy. so temperatures up around five or six degrees, perhaps under any clearer spells, a touch of frost southern parts of scotland, northern england . so a cloudy northern england. so a cloudy wet start to wednesday .

wet start to wednesday. outbreaks of rain sweeping its way south and east with brighter skies following much of england and wales . skies following much of england and wales. but northern england. northern , scotland northern ireland, scotland holding to cloudy skies holding on to cloudy skies outbreaks of showery rain through day and still fairly through the day and still fairly blustery, lighter winds further south. temperatures in the sunshine around 11 sunshine could reach around 11 celsius, for most it will be celsius, but for most it will be between seven and nine. so feeling a fresh but not too bad for the time of year three or four and so evening dry across england and initially showers across scotland and northern ireland but later as we head into the early hours thick of cloud, outbreaks of rain will move from the atlantic. move back in from the atlantic. some could at some of this could be heavy at times. overall , some of this could be heavy at times. overall, a some of this could be heavy at times. overall , a lot of times. so overall, a lot of cloud around another for your night. for most of us, temperatures up around to temperatures up around mid to high figures so it means a cloudy start to thursday outbreaks of rain across central and northern parts of the uk. but the day it should lift and break little to allow a few glimmers of sunshine ahead of further rain, trying to move from the south—west. colder air also moving in across scotland

and that tries push in further across scotland into northern ireland. northern england over the next few days, turning a bit colder .

and this is dewbs& co the show where we'll get into the things that have got you talking today and now yet another nhs strike , and now yet another nhs strike, ambulance strike . i'm wondering, ambulance strike. i'm wondering, i do think we're any closer to a resolution. do you feel like we're making any headway at all? we're getting warned now. basically, don't do anything dangerous while . the ambulances dangerous while. the ambulances are on strike . goodness me. how