very good morning. welcome to best tennis on gb news. thank you for finding me. how 25,000 ambulance workers have walked out in the first of two. one day strikes.

health secretary steve barclay is telling you to take care because his services will not cover. because his services will not cover . 999 calls where you be cover. 999 calls where you be being more careful today. let me know. i'll be discussing the day's most interesting news stories as well this morning with my expert debate has the co—founder of this together declaration , miller, declaration, alan miller, and the former of the law the former president of the law society. stephanie that's all society. i, stephanie that's all coming up after. look at the latest news . good morning . swum latest news. good morning. swum in a past tandem aaron armstrong the gb newsroom an cobra meeting is being held as thousands of ambulance workers walk the job. meanwhile everyone is watching me while that everyone is wearing wet. wet ministers are addressing the growing discontent as fresh strikes across various threaten to grind the country to a halt with the health service in england and wales under severe pressure today the government the public

today the government the public to be cautious now secretary has criticised unions for failing to give exemptions to ensure all life threatening and emergency calls are covered. steve barclay says minimum service could be introduced in future to guarantee patient safety . guarantee patient safety. clearly we will need to look at the data from today to see whether the exemptions that the trade unions have promised materialise. they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum, but on the other hand that they don't want to cause to home patients. so we've tried to work constructively with the trade unions, but course if we see significant patient harm, then as a government we need to look at what is turning to the minimum service levels . well, minimum service levels. well, hundreds of members of the armed forces have been drafted into cover for the striking ambulance workers taking patients to and from hospital . however, they're from hospital. however, they're not allowed to drive through red lights turn on ambulances, a blue lights or treat patients for race as soldier fill can be until gb news. the army's used

to stepping in where there's industrial action. but first everjob industrial action. but first ever job in the military. right. everjob in the military. right. we went out west the morgan in those green got his fire engines and stood in for a fire service. which world strike guy.7 the pinstriped squaddies turned up for oh so slow start we for that. oh so slow start we stood in before his positive job is you up for that is what you signed up for that besides defending the country, comes many ways, shapes and comes in many ways, shapes and forms this all part of forms. and this is all part of the job. well, the met police commissioner says the ambulance and nursing strikes are causing more for his staff. many of our tens of thousands of great officers are spending time on health and social work. we're with too much. other agencies should be dealing with particularly mental health. and we started conversations with nhs colleagues about, how they take that work back from us . and take that work back from us. and that's really important because ineed that's really important because i need my great men and women to doing more for london and policing and not filling in behind other agencies . ukraine's behind other agencies. ukraine's president is due to arrive in washington this afternoon for

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to back. good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news. here's what's coming on the show today. we're talking about the fact that 25,000 ambulance workers have walked out this morning in the first of two, one day strikes. health secretary steve barclay is telling you to take extra care today , warning the extra care today, warning the nhs plans won't cover. extra care today, warning the nhs plans won't cover . all 999 nhs plans won't cover. all 999 calls 750 armed forces personnel have been drawn in to help and we're being be extra careful as resources are stretched. are you worried. let me know and i'll be joined by the reality tv star jake quickenden . he'll give his jake quickenden. he'll give his tips on how to deal with grief at christmas after losing his father and his brother. for many of us, of course, it's a time of celebration. but if you have lost a loved one, the festive penod lost a loved one, the festive period is a really tough and on my this morning i'll be joined by the co—founder share the declaration alan miller and the immediate past president of the law society of england and wales. i'm stephanie boyce and

of course the show is much improved with input. don't forget, we've got a poll running this morning on twitter. we are asking you to the strikes will change your behaviour this christmas as you are paying advised so far 88% of you i believe are saying that you will because you are a stubborn lot email me gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at to gb news have your say . say. so thousands of ambulance workers have walked out on their first of two days of strike action . action! an emergency action. action! an emergency cobra meeting is being held by the government as emergency workers walk off the job with the health service . severe the health service. severe pressure today . the government pressure today. the government is now telling you to be extra cautious over the christmas period. lucy johnson , health and period. lucy johnson, health and social affairs editor at the sun express, joins me now . good

express, joins me now. good morning, lucy it's rather unprecedented , i think, isn't unprecedented, i think, isn't it, for the health department? we had wills quinn health , we had wills quinn health, minister in the department of health telling people don't do anything risky don't take any risky activities given that we've had two years lucy if these disruptive covid christmases what do you think ? christmases what do you think? is it appropriate , first of all, is it appropriate, first of all, to say that we should all be taking more care over the christmas period ? i think it's christmas period? i think it's a sign of absolute desperation action, isn't it? and, you know , the there's a deadlock and then negotiations. both sides are digging in their heels in and no one's prepared to of move budget inch , which is really sad budget inch, which is really sad that come to this and feels like there could be more that steve barclay the health secretary could do to try and open up negotiation so it shouldn't be left to the public to try and kerb their behaviour just in

case of an accident so yeah it does seem inappropriate having said that yeah i'm sorry carry on. no, go on lucy. carry now having said , you know, i'm having said, you know, i'm talking to ambulance workers and paramedics on the ground and one of their frustrate actions is that a lot of people do call the services 999 and 111 with non critical problems . we've had the critical problems. we've had the concern over group strep a and that sort of crushed the system rather with a lot of parents with kids with sore throats know calling their services and they're just overwhelmed. i think about half of 111 calls are being abandoned now. so it's you know it's not just crumbling. it's collapsing really . isn't that interesting? really. isn't that interesting? i think probably is some education to be done around the necessity for 999 and ambulance calls and when as thinking as

parents when you call them and when you don't and we've got the one on one system as well. lucy do you think there's going to be a lot of confusion for people over this christmas period as to what we do in the event of an emergency this these strikes only make that more difficult. i think in many cases there isn't anything people can't get hold of on when they can't get hold of on when they can't get hold of the services they need and even they can the 111 algorithm can often wrongly put people in a higher category call out because it's you they're not trained doctors. so they can't ask appropriate questions . ask appropriate questions. people are being put into category one and to cases when they're not. so i think it is. it's a huge worry and only just just hours ago , we heard the just hours ago, we heard the story of a 93 year old woman who left 25 hours screaming in pain,

having broken her hip in a care home and fallen. so people are going to be will die. people lives will be lost . do you see lives will be lost. do you see any way out of this strike, lucy , as the health editor between the ambulance workers, particularly we talked about the nurses, but yesterday we talk about the trains as well. but ambulance service is so crucial. this is such an obvious thing to say. i can't believe in 2022 we're discussing we're having to point out the fact that ambulances are a really integral of the health service . and i of the health service. and i wonder whether the resolution will be in the new year and what that could possibly look like . that could possibly look like. well, one of the reasons i mean, they say that it's about pay , they say that it's about pay, but actually, if you talk ambulance crew and indeed nurses, one of their main problems is actually they just don't feel looked after. they don't feel looked after. they don't feel looked after. they don't feel cared for and they don't feel cared for and they don't feel cared for and they don't feel properly respected. i know we all clapped for the

health service . you know, small health service. you know, small things could make difference in terms perks of the job and, giving them, you know, opportunity , for example, just opportunity, for example, just to park free in the hospital . to park free in the hospital. yeah i think we've i think we've lost . lucy there. that was that lost. lucy there. that was that was lucy health and social affairs editor at the sunday express. let me know what you think. gp views at gbnews.uk. let's speak now to our east midlands reporter hollis who's at a picket line in nottingham forest today . good morning. will forest today. good morning. will good morning. now have you also been waving to the paramedics, the ambulance drivers down there? what are they saying to you? well yeah, it's really bright. the sun just come out. but you can probably see behind me that there is a picket line where. there's a number of people that have been waving flags, particularly for the union, because that's the union thatis union, because that's the union that is on strike today from here, from east midlands ambulance service . you're also ambulance service. you're also going a of people

going to hear a lot of people that are picking their horns and tooting because tooting their horns because where now , it's where we are right now, it's just off of the ring road. so that's the headquarters is that's why the headquarters is here next to me. so they can dart around nottingham city centre quite easily. if somebody does need an ambulance . some of does need an ambulance. some of the conversations that i've been having with people were here today quite , they're quite today quite, they're quite pertinent because . people are pertinent because. people are saying that they've been waiting 5 hours or so at a hospital just to drop somebody off. they've been saying that they've heard calls for , backup for assistance calls for, backup for assistance and because they're stuck in queues, they go to it. and because of that, maybe people have lost their lives. so this is a really serious issue. it is very much about pay. it is very much about getting more ambulance workers like, ambulance workers would like, which higher than 4, which which is higher than 4, which was the pay imposed by the independent body . and i've been independent body. and i've been here in a few of those issues for the reasons why are on strike, about pay, about conditions from somebody called sarah who's an ambulance technician who's on the picket

line behind me. technician who's on the picket line behind me . and ultimately line behind me. and ultimately it's the patients people. get ambulance when they need to get an ambulance and stuff it even in droves . the conditions that in droves. the conditions that we're working in just it's just not fair any more . anybody not fair any more. anybody involved . it needs to be more involved. it needs to be more money involved because it needs to be attractive for people to come into the job and retain people that we already have losing long serving staff because the are just getting worse and people are tired. people are just finding it more difficult to continue with the level of work that we're having to deal with. it's just the reduction in all the funding from the, you know, putting the social care, the people aren't getting towards people and then blocking to pay and making it difficult. some say that we're seeing longer and longer delays at hospital and the staff in hospital are burnt out. everybody cannot continue as it is . it's everybody cannot continue as it is. it's just, you know, everything's caused by which then, you know, creates problems

because people don't know the systems , the lt. systems and systems, the lt. systems and everything else, which puts more pressure on the people that they're expected to staff. if somebody really needs those, then we will be there . and then we will be there. and that's the nature of the people working and the working here today. and the thoughts of everybody on the ambulance service. and that's why job. half the why we do the job. half the people that are still here people here that are still here now have working the night now have been working the night shift, here support shift, but here to support colleagues and myself and my crewmate that are working today we've agreed to attend customer one calls and also to come and comments and covered in the detail tools . what is an detail tools. what is an absolute respond because . absolute will respond because. we come into this job to we didn't come into this job to not help . yes well, it's not help. yes well, it's probably easier to say the areas where there aren't strikes happening today than to try and pick out the ambulance strikes where they are , the trips where where they are, the trips where there are strikes happening, there's no strikes happening in northern in northern ireland. there's not in scotland. strikes in scotland. there are strikes in wales every single ambulance wales and every single ambulance trust england except for the trust in england except for the east of england. it's also worth

noting a number of hospital trusts like nottingham university hospitals declared critical incidents as well as at least five ambulance trusts across the country have declared critical incidents because of the effect. the long running of what's been going on inside of the in different parts of the nhs but also because of the worry around how these ambulance trusts be affected during this really difficult period east midlands ambulance trust say that they estimate about 50% of their staff are on strike today. and while many calls will be answered, there is life threatening. you may be for a call with one, one, one is the way to go in those situations life threatening situation . call life threatening situation. call 9992 is simply will be. that's okay! 9992 is simply will be. that's okay i think as well just on that point of support that we've been talking about, lost people tipping their homes. but i just saw one gentleman come over from lidl, which is just behind us, and tray of and he had a big tray of doughnuts for the strikers. so there is a lot of support for there is a lot of support for the strike in what they're doing, a really

doing, even if it is a really difficult decision from most people's perspectives. okay thank you. will hollis, thank you. will, will hollis, there in nottingham . i've asked there in nottingham. i've asked i'm asking you on our twitter poll today whether you will change your behaviour this christmas to the strikes. lots you getting in touch and give me comments on this darrel has said no, i've still got an 11 am. sky diving session and deep diving at 2 pm. of course it won't anything because people have to go to work. unlike the strikers , sean has said no strikers, sean has said no dangeris strikers, sean has said no danger is the spirit to why we love christmas . we live in this love christmas. we live in this nanny state that we should change due to the change our behaviour due to the and this gentleman's . yes, i've and this gentleman's. yes, i've changed my behaviour. i've joined bupa. this is part of the problem, isn't it? we're going to be sending lot of people towards private care with these strikes going on and i think that signal demise of that could signal the demise of the nhs . and i think there's the nhs. and i think there's a lot of us who do not want that right. next up on today's show, i'm going joined by the i'm going to be joined by the co—founder, together co—founder, the together declaration, and co—founder, the together decimmediate and co—founder, the together decimmediate past and co—founder, the together decimmediate past president of the immediate past president of the immediate past president of the society, a! stephanie the law society, a! stephanie poised through of

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welcome back to tennis today on gb news. thank you forjoining. gb news. thank you for joining. my gb news. thank you for joining. my guests are here this morning . am so pleased to be joined by the former president of the law society of england and wales i, stephanie boyce. morning, steph and miller here from this and alan miller here from this together declaration face to gb news viewers . right we've just news viewers. right we've just been talking about ambulance strikes, alan. we're all being told we've got to be really careful . christmas, i feel careful. christmas, i feel utterly patronised by that as a sentiment . absolutely. all of sentiment. absolutely. all of a sudden we need to use our common sense. they're going to trust the public holiday. sense. they're going to trust the public holiday . three years the public holiday. three years of treating us and patronise us and not allowing us to exercise our judgement.

and not allowing us to exercise ourjudgement. and i think obviously this is a number different things going on in this discussion. i that the first thing i would say is that , you know, one minute people are saying should clap for people and is almost every nhs is this day a and the next thing we presented as though there's really people that are trying to devastate society. and i think that frontline staff deserve an absolute you should have good pay absolute you should have good pay but it's not about pay. it's also about the fact we know that we've had bad losses , had a lack we've had bad losses, had a lack of resource, we've had impacts in social care, loss of 40,000 care workers because job care workers because of the job mandate shouldn't have happened . at the same time . and then at the same time we've seen in the last two years, exactly, some of them get double and triple . some people double and triple. some people are on as much as 300,000 well over 15% pay rises, some of them double what the prime minister is getting . so the question is getting. so the question becomes , is it that becomes why, is it that frontline staff that are under pressure are suddenly being demonised ? and that is demonised? and i think that is to impact people. of course it is. i mean, that's one of the

things that happened with strikes, we should also note that with the that that like with the protest that people doing , the people were doing, the government's response was try and bring in new legislation to stop like it has done with free speech and like it's doing now with strikes, the right to withdraw labour, which people take very seriously should now not have been new legislation that's coming in and. i think that's coming in and. i think that what's interesting as well is both labour and the conservatives have really come out and they're not really out and said they're not really backing . i think we have backing people. i think we have a common interest in saying that, you know, ordinary people who doing really difficult who are doing really difficult work absolutely. we don't work. absolutely. if we don't that nurses and other frontline workers deserve to get this money and also in the context of the proportion of paid on the nhs, we've got a much bigger thing address and. we have to thing to address and. we have to do quickly, which how do it quickly, which is how organising what about organising the nhs, what about the bureaucracy and the levels of let's not demonise staff of and let's not demonise staff but actually get to grips with that. but actually get to grips with that . stephanie, what are your that. stephanie, what are your one of our viewers, i mean rather jokingly

one of our viewers, i mean ratherjokingly i said about changing their behaviour, they said, well, bought private health care. that's how i'm changing my it feels changing my behaviour. it feels like that move is becoming inevitable now and i don't think most of the population in this country that though. country want that though. absolutely. is a absolutely. the nhs is a national treasure that's. you know when bevan created this nhs . in know when bevan created this nhs. in that we would have health care when needed and when we needed it and at affordable shouldn't have to pay for it. and there are those who are opting out and if they can self—fund that is all good. well but there are enormous amounts of the population who either are not in a position to self—fund or believe so much in the idea or ideology of the nhs that they are committed to. is absolutely. alan is right the nhs needs reforming. this is not just about pay. it's about so many different factors within the nhs . we should be both sides of the government's and the union bosses should be sat across the table because there are three parties in this dispute. the

government , the union bosses and government, the union bosses and of course the public who encompass the taxpayers and patient care and they should sitting down to find a resolution collaborating together as to how we reform this national treasure . so it this national treasure. so it does produce the workers, the alan spoke about and it produces the pay of that nurses ambulance workers and so many others deserve deserve. it feels like it's been neglected mean. i know that the events of the last two years have just thrown everything up in the air and it's all landed in a very strange place this but this has really brought into focus, hasn't it? how little forward planning has been for the vision of the nhs. i feel like there's been a lot of people around the island who've worked around the nhs or working for drug companies who've done really, really out of the really well, who've out of the nhs eye—watering figures nhs with eye—watering figures whilst patient care and care for the employees of the emergency services have been neglected , i services have been neglected, i said one particular government we can pin on it feels like

decades of well, i think that you have to go back a long way, but i just want to also say that the last two years where you had a covid obsession and lockdown, which sorts of which has led to all sorts of additional pressures on of additional pressures on top of staff people cancer and staff and people with cancer and heart stroke, which are heart disease stroke, which are increased in multitudes, has had an enormous but actually, an enormous. but actually, if you back the discussion about you go back the discussion about what should happen the nhs what should happen in the nhs labour tony blair, the labour under tony blair, the pubuc labour under tony blair, the public partnership, was a public partnership, there was a range things that actually range of things that actually were an attempt to deal with things. but by point made things worse spend more public worse and we spend more public money though some areas money even though some areas were privatised and think that, you know, if you look at a&e, if you know, if you look at a&e, if you look at people not being seen by gp's, you look at the length and it's way before this that waiting in that people been waiting in ambulances and were ambulances and there were backlogs. accept backlogs. it's just not accept and to get serious and and we need to get serious and i think the public should put pressure on the government on their representatives their elected representatives and opposition to not and on the opposition to not come out with platitudes or give some kind of signalling, but actually say we need to get to gnps actually say we need to get to grips with it needs to be

grips with this. it needs to be made efficient and executed and we have national about we need to have a national about if prepared to pay, if people are prepared to pay, because we paying because of course we are paying for this it's the for this all us. it's the biggest employer in the world. we're out of our we're paying for it out of our taxes. so are there other ways that they do in europe where we can do things more efficiently? let's conversation let's have that conversation with public. with everyone in the public. yeah, deserve yeah, absolutely. we deserve better. deserve better. the workers deserve better. the workers deserve better. taxpayers who better. and we as taxpayers who are service users, we also deserve better rights . deserve better rights. stephanie, jeremy clarkson got himself into a lot of trouble for writing an article in the sun newspaper. his usual comic style . but some say that he went style. but some say that he went too in relation to meghan markle and acellular dislike of her. 60 employees have now written to the editor of the sun condemning the editor of the sun condemning the column. can't help but think they should have better things to do . and itv are saying that to do. and itv are saying that he he's going to carry on is this saying he's going to carry out he's going to keep his job at the moment if he wants to be at the moment if he wants to be a millionaire should he lose his job? i think firstly, job? well, i think firstly, regardless of what you think

about duchess of sussex, the about the duchess of sussex, the you have said you know, some people have said this speech, some this freedom of speech, some people this speech. people have said this is speech. let's what jeremy let's be clear what jeremy clarkson said has said clarkson said and has said previously, is not previously, because this is not the time has said the first time he has said comments that have offended his comments that have offended his comments on this particular were awful . and that was what the awful. and that was what the boss, itv said. his comments awful people in my view, people who occupied platforms of influence and hold to a certain degree a position of power should not be should be more considerate and thoughtful in the commentary that they put out in the public domain . well, alan in the public domain. well, alan miller, over to you, because i think you know what , they've think you know what, they've taken the article off online the sun, have taken the absolute down. so you can't actually read it now. i'm amazed it got through the editor without him pointing this one pointing out. this is one controversial scene that he about where he says that meghan markle paraded the markle should paraded down the street naked people throw excrement reference excrement to her he's reference in game thrones. but we only

in game of thrones. but we only know that after came out with know that after he came out with a supposedly right. a supposedly. that's right. and that's think he's that's why i think he's extraordinary the editor extraordinary that the editor didn't we to clarify didn't say. we need to clarify that sounds quite bad. but that that sounds quite bad. but still i would defend his i would defend his right to say mean things about people in public. so there's a number of things that are going on here. and stephanie that in the stephanie is right that in the past some past he's also said some terrible things. actually terrible things. he's actually said should be said that striking should be shot and that truckers should kill prostitutes. he said all sorts of things that really inflammatory reprehensible and, you know, killing people and i don't particularly like what he says and. i don't like lots of things that lots of people say. i think to start imposing on him that he meant something about simon in someone else's interpretation. but where i'm really and where the really concerned and where the power stephanie was power lies because stephanie was saying with is that saying that people with is that when caroline notes . and 60 when caroline notes. and 60 september and others start writing saying that this should be taken down it's unacceptable or when you know chris packham says that he should be put in

jail that we have a reaction listen to something that is so draconian and the idea that who the people that are going to judge to make decisions about what's acceptable and what we've got to show so that we are well, that's right. so legal free speech and we know that with the onune speech and we know that with the online safety bill we've had a big fight together many big fight together and many others, speech union others, the free speech union and others citizens. we've challenged legal but harmful. but that this government challenged legal but harmful. but others that this government challenged legal but harmful. but others are 1at this government challenged legal but harmful. but others are petrifiediovernment challenged legal but harmful. but others are petrified ofarnment challenged legal but harmful. but others are petrified of the1ent and others are petrified of the pubuc and others are petrified of the public speaking because within all of this , i want to finish all of this, i want to finish this point is really important. within all of this, there's this idea that all these governments , all these terrible what like working class people, some are going and start behaving going to come and start behaving in way because you in a certain way because you can't trust them. but these decent twitter decent and these twitter reference people can do it. and finally , to say that we just finally, to say that we just seen on the twitter files lots of free speech being suppressed . concerned with all . so i'm very concerned with all that what said, that dislike. what you said, i thought disgusting . i agree thought is disgusting. i agree with daughter happens. with his daughter as it happens. yeah the bigger question is this

whole all the to whole pressure all the time to suffocate. all was going to suffocate. all i was going to say is, is that i slightly disagree with alan on that particular point about. what the government do. we government is trying to do. we have the government attempt to introduce legislation the introduce legislation via the bill is now on hold or bill of rights is now on hold or whatever. it's doing on a shelf somewhere to try and do exactly that. somewhere to try and do exactly that . and that to increase that. and that is to increase the government's powers, to increase freedom of speech. the difficulty have is in the current climate where we have seen women and i'm going to on women where we have seen women lose their lives and their we are seeing yesterday we heard stories internationally about women across the world who increasingly losing their right on this particular occasion to education. but in this country where women are petrified to walk the streets , they do not walk the streets, they do not feel safe. that i not think that commentary like this from a person as i say , who occupies as person as i say, who occupies as the as it says, the most famous quiz on television, who wants to be a millionaire? he's in a position of influence and power

. he should know better. and i agree the editors should not have allowed this to come out in print. he's also funny he's a very and funny . print. he's also funny he's a very and funny. he's very polite and funny. he's books not particularly funny on the telly. all right. his writing is some of the most hilarious pieces of journalism. we i mean, his columns put into books. they are always a little surreal. so takes it into quite a surreal comic realm, which is why when he's depicting this image of a woman. meghan markle walking down the street and being pelted with excrement in the context of the article it's surreal and it's funny. the context of the article it's surreal and it's funny . and i surreal and it's funny. and i think that we have to be really careful not to confuse alexa . i careful not to confuse alexa. i totally agree with you, stephanie, that women's safety is important , but those two is important, but those are two different issues are they not? absolutely. they're two different take different issues. but if we take one or other females in one or the other females in who's mentioned in this article, nicholas sturgeon, who's come out and made out very publicly and made comments, but also the fact is that we only know a reference to games of a game thrones. i've

never seen the drama , but that's never seen the drama, but that's a fictional drama . but the way a fictional drama. but the way that he has portrayed it and related is very real for lots of people , and we cannot ignore people, and we cannot ignore that. people, and we cannot ignore that . and i can i will also say that. and i can i will also say that. and i can i will also say that lots of men are being starved and having terrible things done to them, too. and when joe brown said that, nigel farage should have asked much is acid something acid over him. it's something that's and that's reprehensible and horrible hope that horrible and i would hope that people don't just go and do what they think. the comedian people don't just go and do what th

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accidentally and look in just to explain what he was talking about that i believed that clip jake was talking about at the women in jungle on celebrity see but jake joins us to talk about a much more poignant issue. good morning , jake. thank you for morning, jake. thank you for joining us . i'm so sorry we joining us. i'm so sorry we played that clip of you talking about looking at the lady's bottom is that wasn't the introduction i was explaining i expecting so there you are and your beautiful house your christmas tree. so it's a lovely time of the year for people isn't it. but when you have lost those that you love , it makes it those that you love, it makes it all the more because this is a time of the year family and you had you had a shocker didn't losing your father what year was that and then not long losing your brother . yeah i lost my dad your brother. yeah i lost my dad 13 years ago now and then i lost my little brother ten years ago now . and it seems like it seems now. and it seems like it seems like a long time, but some

somebody that's gone through kind of loss and grief, it's stays quite raw. and i it's going to be real for somebody that's somebody and i sometimes i think back and i think how has it been ten years that my little brother's like not been with me? because it still seems like yesterday and christmas is always quite i took time and stuff like that so yeah it's been a hard kind of journey get where i am today with kind of how i deal with my grief, how i deal with my feelings really. i bet, i bet. i mean it was it was it. you lost your dad, paul, in 2008 to bone cancer. and then it was two years later that you brother also got bone cancer . brother also got bone cancer. but a different there's different actually, i think i think my understanding is weren't necessarily connected . weren't necessarily connected. yeah. how well how old were you at the time, jake and how easy was it for you as a presumably young boy then to about it ? young boy then to about it? yeah, it was it was really like i was i was 20, 21, 20, i think

when i lost my dad . so it was it when i lost my dad. so it was it was really tough and they were kind of my age where i was going out and i was of finding out who i was, you know, i mean, and then to have my dad taken away, it of made me lose a bit of myself and but i still had two brothers. so then when i and got diagnosed and kind of died so suddenly he i think he had it for three years and osteosarcoma which is yeah, like you say, kind of bone and that just kind of flipped everything again because i felt like i needed to protect my younger brother . and protect my younger brother. and then i, i couldn't , i couldn't then i, i couldn't, i couldn't help him . and that's kind of help him. and that's kind of something that stayed with me for a long time. something that stayed with me for a long time . fact that i, as for a long time. fact that i, as an older brother, even i know i didn't i feel like not. that's how i feel . and it me a long how i feel. and it me a long time to get over that and. and that's why i'm like an ambassador now talk about your

grief and talk about because i feel like maybe five spoke about it a little bit sooner . and if it a little bit sooner. and if i talked about the way i felt soonen talked about the way i felt sooner, then i think i would have i would have come to and kind of dealt with it quicker. but i didn't and i didn't i didn't really know there was help out that i didn't know there charities. and that's kind of why i had a partnership with co—op funeralcare because they help people and there is help out there and it's and the three help out there. you don't pay for this help and it's just talking and just opening up and me you know the people in similar that can kind of help you with when it comes to grief there's this acronym is i don't know whether you know straight you probably do this i do with bpd and it's you go through these stages of recovery and this first one being busyness so when somebody dies is often a lot of busyness, isn't it? is organising the sorting organising funerals, the sorting stuff then you might go stuff out. and then you might go through anger you angry through anger. where you angry at the world and you it out at the world and you take it out on mates and then you go

on your mates and then you go through which is the through b which is the bargaining is what you bargaining which is what you were if only were saying then about if only i could have done something i could have done something if i could have done something if i could going out on could stopped them going out on that day or if i stopped that bike day or if i stopped them the car or it is them getting in the car or it is and d depression very commonly people will get very low and they get very sad. and then ultimately go through those to acceptance is, you know, do you feel like you are in that place of acceptance now and what helped to get there ? i'd helped you to get there? i'd like to think i am on and the fact that i can talk so openly it now and also i try and help all the people with grief. i feel like i have accepted and obviously i'm going to miss them and i actually met a lady in the street yesterday in where i'm where i'm currently working and i met her eight years ago on cruise ship. and she me and we just was chatting away and recently lost somebody and she said like, how, how does it get easier? and i'm and i, i'm not going to i'm not going to stand

and lie to you. like, for me, it never gets easier losing somebody. you just you just start to deal with it better. and i said like the memories i used to look back on with my daughter, my they used daughter, my brother. they used make but now when make me upset. but now when i look back on them, i smile and. i feel like i accept the fact that they're no longer with me and fact that we had and accept the fact that we had some amazing together. i've some amazing together. and i've still these cherished still got these cherished memories will never leave memories that will never leave my head. they'll never leave me . and the i've dealt with it and the way i got to where i am today is by just, you know, and being honest the way i feel like, like said, the different emotions you go through. i think for first two years for me for the first two years for me i was just numb . i was in a state was just numb. i was in a state of shock and a state of i didn't want to believe it. it was real. so i kind of still pretended that there was still alive and i just couldn't see them. so i thought, yeah, and that wasn't really so i started to accept the fact that they weren't coming back and, and i think

that's when i started deal with it and i started to open up with my friends, with my family. and i've got good group of group of people, me that helped me through it. well, if you haven't got that group, that's it's got that group, that's when it's it a struggle. and if you it can be a struggle. and if you don't who to turn to, you don't know who to turn to, you don't know who to turn to, you don't know who to turn to, you don't know who to talk to. and that's when becomes hard. but i always say that my instagram is that for that if anyone goes for anything, to needs anything, you need to needs a channel. try and get back channel. always try and get back because i know how much it is. yeah, well you married , yeah, well, you newly married, you have a beautiful wife . this you have a beautiful wife. this is your first christmas married . and you in panto, jake , this . and you in panto, jake, this yeah . and you in panto, jake, this year. where can we see you in panto this christmas ? yeah, i'm panto this christmas? yeah, i'm in lincoln at the minute . panto this christmas? yeah, i'm in lincoln at the minute. i actually finished on christmas eve, so i've got quite a short this year because i do want to spend my first kind of christmas . oh, married. i've got my little two year old. he's going to be two in february. so it's becoming a little bit better for him and i've got my stepson so . him and i've got my stepson so. yeah.i him and i've got my stepson so. yeah. i want to i wanted to ask was there on boxing day at home

but in lincoln but yeah i'm working in lincoln park . can't wait to get out. park. can't wait to get out. yeah moves on doesn't it. through all these different but listen thank so much i bet listen thank you so much i bet you've a people you've helped a lot of people today up the good work today keep up the good work supporting those are supporting those who are bereaved much love thanks very much jacqui and a happy christmas. i keep thinking it's still weeks away. it's only the corner. got to all my corner. i've got to do all my wrapping right. back wrapping afternoon right. back to our top story now. the government has encouraged members public not to members of the public not to take today as i'm going as take risks today as i'm going as workers across england and wales begin. strike action on begin. a day of strike action on north—west of england. reporter sophie has story. sophie reaper has the story. another another strike this time. despite its last minute negotiations . over 10,000 negotiations. over 10,000 ambulance workers across nine trusts will walk out a controversial decision. but the unions say workers have been left with no other choice . they

left with no other choice. they don't want support at risk, but they feel that they're putting them at risk single day due to them at risk single day due to the handover and waiting times and issues that are completely out their control and the frustration outage because they're having to use banks themselves. they're watching their colleagues suffer their mental is suffering. they're suffering with stress and burnout. so they're feeling at their lowest low. and that's why said that now the government must pay attention because they've ignored it for years . by they've ignored it for years. by law, ambulance workers on strike must provide life preserving care when it's needed , but care when it's needed, but anything less and, they're within their rights, not to respond. our local teams have worked around the clock for the last few weeks, meeting with ambulance employees to determine what emerges . cover will look what emerges. cover will look like it's a local level . we will like it's a local level. we will have our members picket lines outside ambulance stations so that they are ready to emergency calls and their employers will

there working with recs to make sure that where life and limb coveris sure that where life and limb cover is needed , our members are cover is needed, our members are able to respond to that. now as able to respond to that. now as a last resort, the military has been drafted in to support staff dunng been drafted in to support staff during the particularly who've had like a stroke or something and don't have the power. this is part of what we. the army is part of the society we live. and the army does help where it's needed. this isn't a new task. we've done before, certainly with covid two years we with covid two years ago we did operation was operation script and it was a very similar idea. so for the soldiers, this isn't any new surprise. it's actually something they're quite used. they trained how to they are being trained how to support nhs. comes support the nhs. it comes to moving a patient getting moving a patient and getting them and out of the them safely in and out of the ambulance. they will then support paramedic the support the paramedic on the alongside military. the alongside the military. the government ask for government may also ask for support taxi drivers and support from taxi drivers and police . it's important police officers. it's important that any responsible government looks at all the contingency plans that we can to mitigate any to patient safety. but we've

to recognise that it's the trade unions that need to ensure , that unions that need to ensure, that there'll be sufficient cover to meet their obligations , terms of meet their obligations, terms of life threatening responses. so there's emergency calls that absolutely key that we have sufficient cover in the arrangements that are put in place with each individual ambulance , with another day of ambulance, with another day of ambulance, with another day of ambulance strikes already scheduled for next and patient teetering in, the balance . for teetering in, the balance. for many an end to their could be the difference between life and death . sophie reaper tv news . death. sophie reaper tv news. northwest media reporter sophie repat they're right. my panel about back here this morning the immediate past president of the law society of england wales boyce and our miller. you're still here . well. nice to see still here. well. nice to see you all on christmas. i am definite how well done you used to. definitely are you? i'm

looking forward to really. i'm directing it. i've not done anything right. age is away it. ikeep anything right. age is away it. i keep thinking it's weeks away now. only this weekend. tomorrow's my last show, right? prince andrew the musical . this prince andrew the musical. this is going to be on channel 4. there's christmas. is this in bad taste, stephanie? well, i don't know if it's in bad taste. i mean, i would say is that, you know, four serious, you know , know, four serious, you know, broadcaster and so forth , broadcaster and so forth, clearly commissioned it because there must an interest for it. i would like to think that over the christmas i don't know what it's going to air actually, but i would like to think that, you know, that if people have got nothing else better to watch, then this gives them an option. the house behind the very. if you it, it it you think about it, it it fascinating the different fascinating all the different him as royal figure of fun and him as a royal figure of fun and meghan markle perhaps as a royal figure of are they treated differently . well i'm not sure differently. well i'm not sure he's really seen as a figure of fun, but what i would say about

this is it's interesting that people always like to present the viewing . his ignorance , the viewing. his ignorance, stupid, also always wanting the most curious things got lowest common denominator. but i actually think one of the problems is our cultural gatekeepers. there's been a constant in the last 20 years of dumbing down. i for a while was working the arts council in london . but i working the arts council in london. but i am very working the arts council in london . but i am very concerned london. but i am very concerned that the discussion is that we as the small and the great and the good know these things. we like classical music . we think like classical music. we think all these things are really important, arts, important, great in the arts, but people , they want but those people, they want tittle tattle stuff and it's quite insulting. and we've seen race to bottom in many ways. race to the bottom in many ways. so look, the killjoy. so look, i'm the killjoy. i think if somebody is going to be hopefully, you know, a bit like anything about hamilton, anything, you to anything, right. if you want to do you can make it do something, you can make it funny. things funny. often things are done through of the current through the lens of the current political not political climate, not necessarily was there. necessarily what it was there. we about shakespeare. we know that about shakespeare. another , you know. yeah, another things, you know. yeah, a comedy musical about prince

andrew , i guess, what's what andrew, i guess, what's what channel photos is. and they trying to kind of push the envelope a little bit and be a bit controversial. we're talking about so works right . bit controversial. we're talking about so works right. big about it. so it works right. big story the today main mirror story in the today main mirror onune story in the today main mirror online common covid symptoms that infected people have developed, maybe confused for cold. why are they still telling the difference? miller well, i'm sure because i think the but basically is like a common cold now. but it should we should remind ourselves that a year ago we were discussing or it was being held over us, that we could be back lockdowns and restrictions. and we still a restrictions. and we still had a vaccine mandate and the rhetoric was we've been talking was shrill we've been talking about free speech. it's important that can say things, but they were making all sorts of prime of accusation and when the prime minister at the time boris johnson seemed like a long time ago said was going to ago said that he was going to not have restrictions people ago said that he was going to not hcallingtrictions people ago said that he was going to not hcalling him )ns people ago said that he was going to not hcalling him irresponsible, were calling him irresponsible, they lead to they said that could be lead to murder people actually murder 300,000 people actually would of we would die as a consequence of we now that's not the now have seen that's not the case what i think we all need do is take a step back and when we

want to talk about some people speaking certain way speaking in a certain way is that have a period where, that we have had a period where, there's this alarmism and, there's been this alarmism and, there's been this alarmism and, there's been this alarmism and, there's been fear stoked and. actually, we need to do things in a cold, calm way in a cold, rational, calm way and assess and evaluate things. and have become and lots of people have become and been locked and also haven't been locked down. kids not being with down. and kids not being with one another everything all one another and everything all of us probably have had some of this. and definitely know this. and we definitely know people it as well. people that have had it as well. yeah absolutely. stephanie, what do i worry when i see do you think? i worry when i see these headlines that people are going getting going start getting unnecessarily again? going start getting unneci ssarily again? going start getting unneci ssarilythe again? going start getting unneci ssarilythe reality again? going start getting unneci ssarilythe reality isgain? going start getting unneci ssarilythe reality is son? well, i think the reality is so let's be clear, a sore throat is still the most common symptom of covid, some 64% of cases. and of course, as we gather for the holidays, it's going to be a concern for many. but know the aftermath of covid still lingers, although it's very much with us because there still quite a few i think estimated point 3 million people still infected up to the week of december the fifth. but if look at the economic symptom of covid, you know, some 57% of 57%

of stop businesses going out of business in the last year up until november. that's an incredible amount . the economic incredible amount. the economic symptom of covid still is very much with us and will still with us for a long time. can i just that i don't think that's because of covid, though. i think that's because of the policies of lockdowns and restrictions and impositions. which many against. and which ones many against. and some insulted people for some people insulted people for things like . but now we are things like. but now we are deaung things like. but now we are dealing with all the legacies . dealing with all the legacies. you're absolutely right, stephanie. the economic fallout, the cost of living , what i would the cost of living, what i would call costs, a lockdown crisis and health impacts. i mean, let's do a risk assessment now. no one wants to do it at the start. let's never allow anything like this to happen with the lockdowns and, actually assess the assess all the damages and the impacts are happening. we have got inquiry is got a covid inquiry allegedly is going it, but going to be addressing it, but many terms of reference many of their terms of reference are purpose very are not fit for purpose very much so right we've come to the end of our first hour, ladies and gentlemen. we will be right

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good morning. welcome back to tennis today on gb news. thank you for joining tennis today on gb news. thank you forjoining at tennis today on gb news. thank you for joining at 25,000 ambulance workers have walked out in the first of two one day strikes. i'll be joined by panel shortly to discuss that . we've shortly to discuss that. we've got the co—founder of this together declaration , miller and together declaration, miller and the former president of the law society is stephanie boyce. i'm going be talking also about going to be talking also about the minutes. this is where the 20 minutes. this is where you will in this country. why you will in this country. why you won't be to move you won't be allowed to move freely under your own decision making powers . what does that

making powers. what does that mean us and also, the mean for us all? and also, the rumbling along rwanda legal situation relating to immigration. situation relating to immigration . we're going to be immigration. we're going to be looking at that, of course, stephanie, a lawyer. i want to hear her on that. that's all after your latest news with our . goo after your latest news with our. goo out. armstrong in the gb newsroom an emergency cobra meeting is being as thousands of ambulance workers walk off the job. you me. well that is we want to watch be well that is we want to watch be well that is we want to watch be well that is we want to where when ministers are addressing the growing discontent is fresh strikes across various sectors threaten to grind the country to a halt with health service in england and wales under severe pressure today the governments urging the pubuc today the governments urging the public to be cautious. the health secretary has criticised for failing to give exemptions to ensure all life threatening and emergency calls are covered. steve barclay says minimums are

of a levels could be introduced in future to guarantee patient safety . clearly we will need to safety. clearly we will need to look the data from today to whether the exemptions that the trade unions have promised materialise. they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum disruption but on the other hand that , they don't want other hand that, they don't want to cause harm to . so we've tried to cause harm to. so we've tried to cause harm to. so we've tried to work constructively with the trade unions, but course if we see significant harm, then as a government we need to look at what is starting . see a minimum what is starting. see a minimum service levels that the unite union's general secretary says the prime minister needs to negotiate it. please. people do not want be out on strike. they've been forced to go out and strike because the government just doesn't seem to want to listen. we've saying to the for weeks and the government for weeks and weeks back round table weeks come back round the table and do that , the and until they do that, the strikes are going to continue . strikes are going to continue. rishi sunak is missing in action for 25 years i've negotiated . i for 25 years i've negotiated. i have never seen such an abdication of leadership. he

needs get back around the negotiating table . let's do the negotiating table. let's do the deal negotiating table. let's do the deal. and then these people go back to work . deal. and then these people go back to work. hundreds members of the armed forces have drafted in to cover for the striking workers, taking on urgent patients to and from hospital . patients to and from hospital. however, they are not allowed to drive through red lights, turn on ambulances blue lights or treat patients . former isis treat patients. former isis soldier fell campion told gb news army is used to stepping in when industrial action but first everjob when industrial action but first ever job in the military right everjob in the military right we went out west the morgue and green got his fire engines and stood in for a fire service. which world? the pinstripe squad he's turned out for that also two strikes he stood in before his . and positive job is what his. and positive job is what you signed up for that besides defending the country, comes in many ways, shapes and forms. and this all of the job. this is all part of the job. meanwhile, met police meanwhile, the met police commissioner says the ambulance and nursing strikes are more work for his staff . too many of work for his staff. too many of our tens of thousands of great officers are spending on health

and social work. we're dealing with too much. other agencies should be dealing with particularly mental health. and we started conversations with nhs colleagues about they take that work back from us and that's really important because ineed that's really important because i need my great men and women to doing more for london in policing and not filling in behind agencies . and in some behind agencies. and in some breaking news, a man has admitted murdering a mother and three children in derbyshire , three children in derbyshire, damien bendle killed , terri damien bendle killed, terri harris, her children lacey and john paul bennett, as well as lacey's friend connie gent in killamarsh in september last yeah he killamarsh in september last year. he also pleaded guilty to raping one of the children. the 32 year old will be sentenced today. 32 year old will be sentenced today . more breaking news. a man today. more breaking news. a man has pleaded not guilty to the murder of olivia corbell. the nine year old was shot by a gunman who chased a convicted burglar into her home in liverpool in august and of his family members were also in court as thomas cashman appeared via video link. some of the

families shaking their heads as . the not guilty pleas were entered . ukraine's president is entered. ukraine's president is due to arrive in washington afternoon for talks with joe biden . it will be his first biden. it will be his first foreign trip since the beginning of the war in february . of the war in february. volodymyr zelenskyy will also address congress hold a number of bilateral meetings to help strengthen ukrainian and defence capable cities. earlier this week, the us a new package of military aid for ukraine worth £1.6 billion, including a patriot missile system to help ukraine defend its infrastructure against russian attacks . controversial agenda attacks. controversial agenda reforms are expected to pass the scottish parliament today. the bill will remove the need for a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria , which is currently dysphoria, which is currently needed to receive a gender recognition certificate . it recognition certificate. it would also lower the minimum age for applicants to 618 and would shorten the required time for people to live in their acquired

gender from two years to three months. bill is being one of the most controversial in hollyrood since devolution . donald tax since devolution. donald tax returns over a six year period will be made public despite his long running efforts to keep them secret . a committee in the them secret. a committee in the us house of represents has voted to publish his between 2015 and 2021. that is before and during his time as president. it will bnng his time as president. it will bring to an end a four year battle by the democrats to scrutinise trump's tax affairs control of the us house, which passed the republicans in january . elon passed the republicans in january. elon musk says . he'll january. elon musk says. he'll step down as chief executive of twitter as soon as he finds someone foolish enough to take the job. his words more than 57% of users who voted in a twitter posted by elon musk said he should quit the of tesla and spacex, though , says he still spacex, though, says he still plans to head the software and server teams and says gb news we

will bring you more as it happens. now it is back to back . happens. now it is back to back. very good morning . back to bev very good morning. back to bev turner today on gb news. so today marks the first day of ambulance strikes as 25,000 workers will walk out morning in the first of two. one day strikes. health secretary steve barclay has urged you to take extra care during the strike warning nhs plans will not cover all. nine, nine, nine calls. what do you think that. i'm not sure. you can take much care if you're having a heart attack, can you? anyway? we've got a special report from on northern reporter doug beattie about terminally ill children who've enjoyed a lap planned trip to visit some will glimpse their excitement as they and their

families create memories they will cherish forever . and i'm will cherish forever. and i'm going to be joined up back in the studio by the smartest guests on tv in about 15 minutes with a look at the day's biggest, including all people who work from home, lazy or is it providing the change, work, life balance that we all and of course, this show nothing without you and your views today on twitter. we've put a poll asking you with lots of ministers and officials telling you to be careful due to strikes will you change your behaviour this christmas as we are being well at the moment 88% of you say no you won't change your behaviour . say no you won't change your behaviour. so do vote in our poll . email behaviour. so do vote in our poll. email me at dot uk to have your say say . so. thousands of your say say. so. thousands of ambulance workers have walked out on their first day of two days of strike action . an

days of strike action. an emergency cobra meeting being held by the government as the walk off the job, the government is now telling me to be extra cautious over the christmas penod cautious over the christmas period and home secretary suella braverman is facing questions from the home affairs select committee. let's get the latest with gb news political darren mccaffrey . good morning, daryn . mccaffrey. good morning, daryn. what is the latest on this cobra meeting ? so, as they say in meeting? so, as they say in western star, clearly the government to work out contingency plans for how to deal with, particularly paramedic strike. today we know members of the army have been drafted in, but frankly, the service is not going to be up to the usual standards . and even the usual standards. and even then those standards are being questioned in recent months, haven't they, about how ambulance services are with often having to wait hours to receive care? it can be quite today. you've got essentially the nhs people, as you've just been reporting on, to be extra cautious in terms of their

activities, not to do something that may put them in danger by the simple reason that for most nhs trusts across england. they know in a critical situation, he know in a critical situation, le.they know in a critical situation, he they are having rely on i.e. they are having rely on other resources , the health care other resources, the health care system, just to keep going. today as for the negotiations between the government and the unions, not just at the power , unions, not just at the power, but also the nurses and indeed the rail , the postal workers the rail, the postal workers baggage handlers. you could go on.the baggage handlers. you could go on. the government is sticking to its line very much that it is not prepared to go beyond what independent bodies are offering independent bodies are offering in terms of pay. it does not want to reopen negotiations on pay want to reopen negotiations on pay at all. and that has meant that the unions, frankly , are that the unions, frankly, are not terribly happy and willing to go into negotiations if the government is not prepared to talk about that particular subject. in fact, we've heard from one union leader today saying of rishi sunak, the prime minister, this the worst minister, that this is the worst abdication of leadership that they have seen in 25 years. he

says that it lies squarely . he says that it lies squarely. he argues this is as she so sharon graham it all lies squarely at the door of the government strike action and in that think that's where it gets quite tncky that's where it gets quite tricky for the government in the sense that if you look at opinion polls in regards to this particularly when it comes to and nurses, it does seem that the public at least are on the side of those taking strike action. and at the moment, frankly, seem to be blaming the government for all the disruption . so are currently disruption. so are currently facing questions to this morning. what do we know about that yeah and these are already on the christmas break but look at members of the house of lords are still working today though it is the last day before their christmas to break as you say they've got the home secretary suella of suella braverman in front of them home them this morning. the home affairs justice committee affairs and justice committee essentially looking at clearly issue immigration and what is issue of immigration and what is happening with the rwanda plan. we know that high court decision on monday give the go ahead, if

you at least for the you like, at least for the government in the interim term about rwanda plan. have a about the rwanda plan. have a listen in to what the home secretaries had to say. i think that our general regime for welcoming people on humanitarian grounds is very generous. we've welcomed over hundred and 50,000 people since 2015, and it's one of the largest numbers of people who've come here fleeing conflict, persecution , seeking conflict, persecution, seeking security and refuge in this country. i would also say that we have 100 million people who are displaced and it's not feasible for all of those people who might wish to come to the uk to do so. we don't have an unlimited capacity to welcome every single person who is in a difficult situation in their country into the uk . that is a country into the uk. that is a regrettable fact of the modern

world life. but it is the right one. we do have to have a limit now . i one. we do have to have a limit now. i got one. we do have to have a limit now . i got quite feisty at now. i got quite feisty at points . this committee meeting points. this committee meeting with soil have raised me lots of questions about the human rights act . the european court of act. the european court of justice in regards to all of this but also it must be said in regards to the rwanda plan about what precisely is going to happen. what precisely is going to happen . this, you know, we know happen. this, you know, we know there's going to be appeal actions, but how many people or the government expecting to potentially central and in addition that much is too addition to that how much is too costly clear obvious answers costly no clear obvious answers in regards to all that puts one of brave men it seems to be saying that they need the saying that they need to the government to get a grip government needs to get a grip of crisis. it of this mobile crisis. oh it will the public to blame the will be the public to blame the government failing . get a government for failing. get a grip. thank darren darren grip. okay. thank darren darren mccaffrey down there in westminster. a lot . you getting westminster. a lot. you getting in touch about the nhs strikes that jane has said? i worked for over years urgent care and over 14 years in urgent care and saw the pittance of the pay off

for two nurses. too many managers paid £50,000, too many quangos. managers paid £50,000, too many quangos . chief executives being quangos. chief executives being pai d £350,000. it must reformed paid £350,000. it must reformed tooth and nail from the core along with social care in order to have a viable health service. a lot of you can caring, to have a viable health service. a lot of you can caring , with a lot of you can caring, with that particular attitude there, marty says, throwing one of the nhs is not working. it needs totally restructuring. keep your message coming now. olivia utley , our political reporter is here . olivia, you had to tell me about some changes north of the border which will affect gender reassignment. what's well, this is a huge really huge and controversial legislation which has been going through hollywood for the past couple of months. and essentially what it will do when it is passed this evening. it almost certainly will be is make it possible scots to change their legal sex after just three months of living in their acquired gender without , any acquired gender without, any form of medical intervention or even gender dysphoria diagnosis. so it's essentially removes all

checks and around gender reassignment. checks and around gender reassignment . at the moment it's reassignment. at the moment it's much more complicated process. you need to basically prove that you are transgender . this is you are transgender. this is controversial because obviously it runs the risks of running roughshod over women's rights and making it easy for those who aren't actually but of posing as transgender to gain access to women by claiming to be living in the wrong sex, essentially . in the wrong sex, essentially. it's a kind of in theory , you're it's a kind of in theory, you're a male criminal waiting to go to prison for your sentencing, and that's going to take longer than three months. you could then just i am now a woman. well, i go to a women's prison. yes. and what is quite extraordinary aboutis what is quite extraordinary about is last night was the last set of amendments being in holyrood , and it was the latest holyrood, and it was the latest . i was just just been talking to a woman who was watching it all unfold and it was the latest

holyrood has ever sat. there's urgent about this legislation . urgent about this legislation. the only urgency behind the legislation is that nicholas sturgeon wants to get it through before christmas it seems because one of her closest allies , kate forbes, is on allies, kate forbes, is on maternity leave and, she is against this legislation and nicholas sturgeon seems once again wants to get it through before kate forbes gets back from maternity leave. so there was a ten hour sitting last night ending at 2 am. while all sorts of amendments were discussed. one of the amendments, which was rejected was amendment which would was the amendment which would stop those who've been accused of sex crimes from gaining a gender recognition certificate before they've been right, which that amendment have prevented. the scenario that you just out but it was rejected so that could still happen and it has caused a massive massive in hollyrood as you would expect and. what's particularly interesting about it politically

is that there plenty of msp who are very much this legislation. it was ashura and, of course. he famously resigned from the government last month about it . government last month about it. but we can expect to see quite a big rebellion this evening which puts quite a lot strain on nicola sturgeon's . grip on power nicola sturgeon's. grip on power is . this nicola sturgeon's. grip on power is. this facet just we just stop the world. olivia i think i want to get off on days like this. i'm not sure i can. i'm not sure i'm not sure i can. i'm not sure i can live on this planet anymore. can let me know what you think about that. thank you for us up to speed. and for bringing us up to speed. and no doubt might we might talk no doubt we might we might talk about depending about it tomorrow depending on what evening. what happens this evening. thanks, whately there. thanks, olivia whately there. i'm going to go and have a little down in dark room. little lie down in a dark room. it's for a break. my panel it's time for a break. my panel will me after that break will be back me after that break to top stories of to discuss the top stories of the alan miller, stephanie the day alan miller, stephanie boyce will include an analysis of to send migrants to of his plan to send migrants to rwanda suella braverman is rwanda as suella braverman is being on we speak. being grilled on as we speak. and we're going to and also we're going to talk about whether getting about whether we're getting a bit all of working

bit lazy with all of working from always achieving from home, always achieving perfect balance, perfect work life balance, all that quick .

break very morning . it's 1121. break very morning . it's1121. this is very morning. it's1121. this is beth today on gb news. thank you for joining me. my guests are forjoining me. my guests are back here this i've hot footed it over to the breakfast bar. i stephanie boyce is here with us, lawyer and co—founder of the campaign, alan miller. now rwanda , asylum policy is low rwanda, asylum policy is low for. the high court rules this this broke a couple of days ago now was the end of last week. i don't know i'm losing track time. stephanie how do you take this news and will we see any immigrants on any planes anytime soon? do you think ? well, i soon? do you think? well, i mean, absolutely. so, first of all, this decision by the court

is subject to appeal until january the 16th. and by all indications , it's looking like indications, it's looking like it be appealed. and, of course, what the government has said is taking it into capacity and so forth. it's that any action is going to take place before the 16th of january. but of course , 16th of january. but of course, despite the fact that the court has said that this policy is lawful what's clear is this about access to justice and ensuring that individuals have access to legal advice. and, of course , we know that those course, we know that those who've been detained because that story has been very clear the last couple of days , that if the last couple of days, that if you've been detained, you're entitled to a 30 minutes of legal aid, legal advice, so forth. that has not always forth. but that has not always happened. of course, what happened. and of course, what the has said is , the court has also said is, despite finding that this policy is lawful, it has asked the home office to reconsider eight cases where wasn't satisfied that the removal or the policy had been properly considered so. this is

around as a lawyer, as you know, and certainly the law society has come out very vocal about. this is this is about ensuring access to justice and recognising and upholding the rule of law. so you support do you support the policy ? the you support the policy? the policy what the court has said the court has said that this policy is lawful. that's what the court has said they abreast of all of the before them have determined that it is a lawful policy . and what i'm saying that policy. and what i'm saying that the government should respect the government should respect the policy, the decision of the court, but respect the policy to ensure that it's properly appued ensure that it's properly applied and that no one is unduly because once you send somebody to rwanda. i'm clear that there is , though, coming that there is, though, coming back to the united kingdom, one way ticket. absolutely and what's also not clear is whether not the rights that we enjoy indian as a kingdom will be . you indian as a kingdom will be. you will also enjoy those same rights in rwanda . so it's rights in rwanda. so it's because of people like you. it's lawyers that drag this out, isn't it ? no lawyers access. we isn't it? no lawyers access. we go to a public service and we

are there to ensure that the laws are applied properly and people's rights are well. why are you always one step ahead of the and does it feel the politician? and does it feel like the politicians up like the politicians come up with people go, that with something? people go, that sounds like fairly decent idea, maybe. steph and his maybe. and then steph and his law all come in and bang, they're all in the court and it drags out months. well, drags it out for months. well, i do think what's happened this particular has that many particular policy has that many have actively tried to campaign and stop something that was in democratic government . i said it democratic government. i said it once and it seems like the majority of the population have said that they want now this campaign is really important and people should do it. having said that, there's been also it almost gets to the point where you think when can a government implement something that it wants to without being tied wants to do without being tied up time? so think up all the time? so i think about the policy or not, mean about the policy or not, i mean one of the problems is one of is one of the problems is i think that there's been a collapse both in france and britain addressing britain with the how addressing of the question of borders. i think really important. think are really important. i also happen think there's a big

discussion can have about who comes in how what it means and everything. think sort my everything. i think sort of my fair point that we very welcoming britain, we have welcoming in britain, we have had of coming and had lot of people coming and there concerns . but i also there are concerns. but i also get concerned about some of the shrill on each side of this i mean, kip moorhouse was saying it's to the point where it's it's got to the point where it's being bogged down with many being bogged down with so many people that people trying to stop it that the process the actual process democratically of an elected government with a huge at the time of their election where they were wanting to implement this is being prevented so is a question about sovereignty and democracy . well that gets democracy. well that gets limited also agree there's limited but i also agree there's a bit nuance that is very important that people that as important that people that we as a generous as a lawful and a generous and as a lawful and fantastic important society that we provide that to people that are coming here in the way that we would. one the final point i make about this is that no one seems to ever talk about the eu. we kept being told that with the eu all be better, more democratic, nicer . all you democratic, nicer. all this, you know, ignorant voted for know, ignorant people voted for brexit yet the had

brexit and yet the eu's had these display policies and had deals with colonel gaddafi, with libya for like 20 years, even after what was going on there. they continue with we've and no seems to be talking about any of those things. i'm not saying goose and gander but i just wonder there's been so much vitriol against suella in this policy, but people have had silence when eu has silence over when the eu has done it. we leave the done it. should we leave the chair? in a word. oh, it would take more than a word for me to answer that question concretely. what would it help if we weren't in the european convention on human rights ? these human rights? would these policies mps want to policies that our mps want to push through happen much more quickly? but the quickly? i don't know. but the government the government government what the government has going has said, we're not going to leave they're in a leave the ecj if they're in a better position to answer that question the night when you finished in politics, stephanie, we to be an mp, we are going to be an mp, i think right? i think think you mean, right? i think they you, right? working they need you, right? working from is on i think from home. this is on i think it's been one of the biggest social of our social changes of our generation. it happened obviously probably say obviously, probably i would say the good things about the only good things about the pandemic lot of

pandemic is that a lot of employees now have a bit more choice. but there pros and choice. but there are pros and to they're not alan to this. oh, they're not alan mellor. andre spicer has written a comment piece the guardian a comment piece in the guardian to jacob rees—mogg, to say why. jacob rees—mogg, alan are alan sugar the daily mail are getting wrong about working getting it wrong about working from leaning saying from home. a left leaning saying we all have the choice . we should all have the choice. well having i work quite flexibly all over the place and ihave flexibly all over the place and i have time for quite a long time actually, way before lockdowns. but there's no getting from the fact that in terms of productive, we have a massive problem with productivity in britain. we have actually three actually for the last three decades, sluggish wages a lack of investment, not big, ambitious r&d and workplace. and in some areas, the kind of so—called disruption of the tech arena. it's been interesting that you can move in different areas and you can work remotely and that's in some circumstances . but we should remember, it's not 1.2 million, but we have up about 5 million people who are not actually working . so there's not actually working. so there's a conversation working. a conversation about working. there's some there's conversation about some young think perhaps they young people think perhaps they should work . and there's should never work. and there's also way do you make

also a way about how do you make it productive as possible? it as productive as possible? and that we everyone knows and think that we everyone knows this, right? when you actually with people , the flesh and with people, the flesh and discussing and working can get much more creative output . but much more creative output. but it doesn't mean you should never have remote access. but there's a problem with this idea that everyone's just going to stay at home. just also about home. it's not just also about productivity, our daily productivity, i.e. our daily interactions, how interactions, the meetings, how we get on with people. those things create, a life they matter. and also for all the other activity around it . and i other activity around it. and i just think this kind of it's a bit legacy of the lockdown bit a legacy of the lockdown approach, right? this idea that and some people, of course. right. obviously know right. because obviously know about people doing manual about other people doing manual work kept everything going work that kept everything going dunng work that kept everything going during the lockdowns. right. they're often all they're out working often all the time. yeah. i was talking some people over the weekend, stephanie and several stephanie and was several generations around breakfast generations around one breakfast table course of us kind table and of course of us kind of you know 40 is an elder and some are a bit younger particularly those are younger in thirties they love the in their thirties they love the working option because working from home option because they they're on they say they're spending on

commute, less commute, they're spending less on actually ask on childcare, can actually ask for wage is 28 rolls at the for less wage is 28 rolls at the table saying we hate it so we don't we can't afford own house we're working in one bedroom. i have to sit there and work and i'm not going out to meet somebody. i'm not going to meet people. and, you know, it's possibly meet their romantic future the workplace. future in the workplace. who knows? absolutely. knows? well, absolutely. and that heard that is something that we heard in profession as well in the legal profession as well that younger generation , that the younger generation, those the those coming into the profession, missed those conversations those conversations missed those interactions on a personal level, i've seen more colleagues wanting to see me in person rather than to do it online . and rather than to do it online. and of course, one can't discount the former minister, boris johnson, where he says that return to the work place would boost products . and of course boost products. and of course that some of the things that alan spoke about speaks about speaks to that inasmuch that we know it's been reported that working from home for a three days a week say is equivalent to a 6.7% pay rise. and if you work in finance and tech, it's equivalent to 10. but above all

of that. it's about mental health and wellbeing because there was piece that came out this this week around individual who work from home. they're personal hygiene and so forth has actually gone down slightly. oh, i can believe it i've got teenagers . i oh, i can believe it i've got teenagers. i know oh, i can believe it i've got teenagers . i know exactly what teenagers. i know exactly what they're talking about. it's true. and it's just it's not good for us, is it? and in day i think it's and glad we're having this debate. it feels like we have this debate quite often, but i think it's incredibly important because i don't know about you, but i worry that this is going become the norm is going to become the norm without discussing pros without us discussing the pros and and therefore and cons of it and therefore making for how it making allowances for how it might affect people, particularly young. i think we're creatures and how particularly young. i think we'learn creatures and how particularly young. i think we'learn and reatures and how particularly young. i think we'learn and inform; and how particularly young. i think we'learn and inform; an(isiow particularly young. i think we'learn and inform; an(is when we learn and inform and is when we learn and inform and is when we around one another. we are around one another. and those happen. i think those things happen. and i think it's important it's really important and i agree should be insistent agree that should be insistent on people coming in to places not say that it can never not to say that it can never happen remotely. it's use happen remotely. it's great use technology, question of technology, but the question of our productivity in britain is one we have to address with the

things about things we were talking about earlier in of the nhs, how earlier in terms of the nhs, how does get for also in does it get paid for also in terms of all our infrastructure, our energy costs requirements and our needs that needs and our needs and that needs a committed and gauged workforce so people that are also getting paid better because everyone's earning more money. absolutely right. thanks, guys, after this quick break, lapland council trust is giving terminally ill children truly magical experience this christmas , experience this christmas, flying from belfast to lapland , flying from belfast to lapland, which for many children , maybe which for many children, maybe their first time on a plane . their first time on a plane. that's all after your morning's . it' that's all after your morning's. it' armstrong in the gb newsroom. that's breaking news in the last minutes nurses in scotland one on strike dates in the new year after union members overwhelmingly rejected latest pay overwhelmingly rejected latest pay offer from the scottish government . an emergency cobra government. an emergency cobra meeting is currently being held. meanwhile as thousands of

ambulance workers , including ambulance workers, including paramedics and call walk off the job while everyone who wants to be warned that everyone is well when ministers are addressing the growing discontent is fresh strikes across various sectors threaten to bring the country to a halt. with the health service in england and wales under severe pressure today, the government is urging the public to be cautious. the health secretary has criticised unions for failing to give exemptions to ensure all life threatening and emergency calls are covered. steve barclay says minimum service levels could be introduced in future to guarantee patients safety. clearly we will need to look at the data today to see whether the data today to see whether the exemptions that trade unions have promised materialise. they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum disruption, but on the other hand that they do not want to cause harm to patients. so we've tried to work constructively with the trade unions, but of course, if we see significant patient harm, then as a

government will need to look at what he's done to a minimum service levels . amanda's service levels. amanda's admitted murdering a mother and three children in derbyshire. damian and band all killed terry harris children lacey and john paul bennett as well as lacey's friend connie gent in killamarsh in september last year. he also pleaded guilty to raping one of the children. the 32 year old will be sentenced later . will be sentenced later. emancipated not guilty to the murder of olivia pratt cobalt. the nine year old was shot by a gunman who chased a convicted burglar into her home in liverpool in august. olivia's family was in liverpool crown court , when thomas cashman court, when thomas cashman appeared via video link and some of them seen shaking their heads as the pleas were entered . as the pleas were entered. ukraine's president is due to arrive in washington this afternoon for talks with joe biden , his first foreign trip biden, his first foreign trip since russia's invasion in. volodymyr zelenskyy will also address congress and hold a

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good morning. 1137 mr. bev turner today on gb news. well, as the northern ireland children to lapland charity heads off to lapland today, a group of life limited children and their are in for the adventure of a lifetime gb news northern ireland reporter doug beattie joins the charity on the memorable trip. here's what he had to say before taking off from belfast airport earlier. well, good morning . welcome to well, good morning. welcome to belfast international airport. how do you get around travel ? how do you get around travel? well, hire your own and take

people to lapland to find santa's . the atmosphere in here santa's. the atmosphere in here is absolute really magical. we have a choir , newry. we have have a choir, newry. we have some of the children singing here. it a fantastic, fantastic . and it gives us a chance to make real, real memories. joining me now is colin barclay. he is the chairman of the children to lapland trust. tell us a about today. oh, it's just a fabulous day. we obviously have been able to lapland for the last three years. so we're again today and it's half six in the morning. and as you say the atmosphere is just very, very. what sort of what sort of arrangements and sort of planning do you have to do to get this off the edge here? i we've chartered our own plane. it's 189 seater. in the past, it's189 seater. in the past, we've a 220 seater, but one at nine was the maximum we could get this year. there are nearly 100 children. there's nurses , 100 children. there's nurses, everything on board in terms of medicines they might need. i think we have 25 kids in

wheelchairs with kids who's never been out of northern ireland because they can't get insurance. we have to put all that in place. nobody puts their handsin that in place. nobody puts their hands in their pocket any stage dunng hands in their pocket any stage during day . there's a party during the day. there's a party on plane, on the way there. on the plane, on the way there. there's an even bigger part of the play and on the back. the play and on the way back. and you these kids will be and you think these kids will be tired? of it. and you tired? not a bit of it. and you see the smiles all day long means since really, to be means ever since really, to be honest, we've been in a family trip this before. so that's going to be magical. so tell me, what are you looking and that's something . you still know . what are you looking and that's something . you still know. hi. something. you still know. hi. yeah, yeah . well, what do you yeah, yeah. well, what do you doing ? very good . and are you doing? very good. and are you looking forward to going . yeah, looking forward to going. yeah, i could see . i'm going to see i could see. i'm going to see santa . and what are you going to santa. and what are you going to ask him for? a present. oh you've the right idea . ask me at

you've the right idea. ask me at the . sky great. that's the way the. sky great. that's the way they market. and to one that . they market. and to one that. could . how lovely . give you could. how lovely. give you that. belfast airport. now my panel are back here this morning . immediate past president of the law society of england and wales ice deputy voice and co—founder with together campaign miller. right campaign alan miller. right alan. green agenda is taking alan. the green agenda is taking inspiration from the illiberal days of lockdown . what's days of lockdown. what's happening in oxford? well oxford has something called a minute city that they want to implement. we have been told by duncan enright, who's the task as a cabinet , duncan enright, who's the task as a cabinet, as being the head of transport and development, but seems to not want to do too

much development. and i want certain kinds of transport what they want do. now, bear in mind, they want do. now, bear in mind, the oxford already has lots of low traffic neighbourhoods which we've seen happen all across the country . there's been gridlock country. there's been gridlock in like haringey and in brixton and we'll come back to that. but they have number of options that are really suffocated local businesses and residents , and businesses and residents, and now saying what they now they're saying what they want is gates. they want to have is bus gates. they call them all a trial. they say it's trial. what they it but it's a trial. what they it but they have bus gates which will mean you can't drive many mean you can't drive in many arteries are only arteries and you are only allowed passes a so if allowed 100 passes a year. so if you two cars, that means 52 you have two cars, that means 52 to go to certain areas and you have otherwise have to go much further ring road. further round whole ring road. so those journeys further round whole ring road. so are those journeys further round whole ring road. so are really those journeys further round whole ring road. so are really importantjrneys further round whole ring road. so are really important are ys that are really important are getting massive delay there's far more is allegedly to stop some pollution, they say. but there's pollution often in very rundown areas. many people in east oxford who are much more that much poorer , much more that much poorer, much more rundown. they don't have facilities them in 15 minutes to

walk to. so once again, ordinary people are being punished more . people are being punished more. but the thing that's most problematic with this in oxford and seeing happen in some and we're seeing happen in some other cities across uk, is that consultations go out like have done with the low traffic neighbourhoods. the majority of people are responding saying no 5600 respondents in oxford responded . and if you look there responded. and if you look there was a freedom information form. if look at responses on if you look at the responses on some over 3600 were negative on one of them which constituted 93% in in spite of all of and also people going around saying that , you know, they were that, you know, they were representing you the majority people believe in this. businesses have challenged , businesses have challenged, residents have challenged it may still going ahead and they're calling it all a trial and the trial of the 50 minute city can't exist without trial of the law ends . and as duncan smart law ends. and as duncan smart said , is happening anyway. now, said, is happening anyway. now, another thing to note about this, where this has come from is that the international c40, which is mayors in

internationally who city khan is currently the chair of that so that from around states and other countries and actually we have got a declaration to the emergency crisis . right. emergency climate crisis. right. as though the issue in cities is not better hospitals or housing or infrastructure , transport or or infrastructure, transport or any of those things, but it is crisis. it's almost like a perpetual state of crisis rather than a sober addressing of how we deal with things. if there are some conditions that we need to change and he in london, sadiq khan, is the current mayor who's now saying he's going to stand for a third term, has said , well, even those 73% respond to the ulez expansion where you have taxi drivers and again, working people being impacted in their areas . and it's another their areas. and it's another tax on drivers and impositions, even though we said that when it's not a referendum, i'm really that interested. i'm not doing it like that. utterly undemocratic , a whole patrician undemocratic, a whole patrician attitude . we've seen that you , attitude. we've seen that you, the muslim community, oxford, can't get to the mosque elderly

people and others and going to be happening is and i certainly it together have a lot of signatories and members in oxford in edinburgh and cardiff and in where these things are happening they are organising a making think the making vocal and i think the people should realise , you know, people should realise, you know, you that is you might think that this is done a lot of people done deal but a lot of people are it just as lockdown are very and it just as lockdown is finished and, we've gone through all of this and all these businesses are suffering now. a lot of them being killed by this. it's really really by this. and it's really really wrong. does it sound to you stephanie like, oh, this benevolent thing we've we're going the planet and going to save the planet and it's to in position, it's not to be huge in position, but this coercive but it's got this coercive undertow there's of undertow. there's no lack of choice. and as alan explained so brilliantly, no lack democracy choice. and as alan explained so brithis|tly, no lack democracy choice. and as alan explained so brithis decisionack democracy choice. and as alan explained so brithis decision making ocracy choice. and as alan explained so brithis decision making process in this decision making process . absolutely. and i think . well, absolutely. and i think that's the most that's one of the most objectionable concern in things, is any objections is the fact that any objections from or will be from residents or will be overruled. but i think, you know, we've much of the morning talking about freedom speech. this is about freedom of choice. the choice to use whatever transport that is available to

you that you can afford as to how you move . i think we're all how you move. i think we're all agreed that of course there a climate emergency. we're all agreed that we need to. i don't think we are about that kind of troubles me. i think we all agree that we need to look after our planet , know, dispose of our planet, you know, dispose of waste. let's not philosophy's with plastic. have clean with plastic. let's have clean water. and have clean water. let's try and have clean air possible. that's air where possible. but that's what that's i think this what that's what i think this is all predicated idea that all predicated on this idea that there emergency and there isn't emergency and therefore have change therefore we have to change the minutia life we have to minutia of our life we have to go to that that we will go back to that that we will absolutely. this strategy absolutely. but this strategy that's deployed thought that's been deployed or thought up that's been deployed or thought ”p by that's been deployed or thought up by this group that alan reference perhaps takes into consideration all of that. but what it doesn't do or all the concern is it doesn't take into account the more vulnerable parts of our society in terms of to implement a policy that is for the good of the planet and so forth but not thinking about the real everyday life implication of deploying this policy. i'm you know, of course we worry about the vulnerable in

society. of course we do. but this doesn't i'm not objecting to this basis. want all to this on basis. i want all members of society to have freedom to go around everywhere. it impact on your right, if it will impact on your right, if you're a wheelchair user, maybe, and just hop and you can't just hop on a bicycle like sadiq khan thinks we can in morning you we all can in morning or you know taking the to swimming club via supermarket can't do via the supermarket can't do that a bicycle or that on a bicycle or particularly on bus is particularly on a bus is completely detached from real life. so should life. yeah. so what should people well i think people do well in. well i think in the instance in each of the cities are already established groups been challenging groups who've been challenging out ends. and the 15 minute city low traffic neighbourhood neighbourhoods. yeah. and there's a number of campaigns are happening in london and across in oxford across the country in oxford there going be more there are going to be more things happening on january 24th. the is going to be stating how this next going be rolled how this next going to be rolled out . and just say they have out. and just to say they have a that both for the hospital and the schools the there's going to be an additional tax on car park. so key key workers teachers , nurses and others are teachers, nurses and others are not going to be charged double

the amount to bring their cars . the amount to bring their cars. oxford already in many areas not liveable city for key workers this is going to be imposed on them. this is by a mixture of labour lib and green. but actually the conservatives want it as well this whole idea that caring and considerate what tends happen all the time is it's impacted the worst it's being impacted the worst off . and so there's going to be off. and so there's going to be a discussion what happens with that. but i a hunch that a that. but i have a hunch that a lot of people because i've seen already groups that are already the groups that are there and more there organise and a lot more are going to be challenging and asking questions. i think people can pressure on the local can put pressure on the local councillors. their mp and councillors. i know their mp and on the government and we together are going to be representing some of our signatories and members of the opposition, bringing opposition, but also bringing this government. this to national government. because way that we do because the whole way that we do our infrastructure , our transport infrastructure, housing business all housing business are all interrelated . this final point interrelated. this final point on, net zero. everyone seems to think it's a done deal and i think it's a done deal and i think it's a done deal and i think it needs much more critical attention. the whole thing does. and you know what? you won't really . the thing does. and you know what? you won't really. the bbc

talking about oxfam's plans won't the other won't really hear the other channels discussing it. we're talking really talking about it. it really affects you. and that's what's really and it will really important. and it will all happen without having all happen without you having any boris becker any consent right. boris becker talking people who didn't talking to people who didn't have consent, who sent to prison, it? he's come prison, didn't it? he's come out, he's now giving his first interview and it gives us quite out, he's now giving his first int�*interesting it gives us quite out, he's now giving his first int�*interesting insight,us quite out, he's now giving his first int�*interesting insight, doesn't out, he's now giving his first intstephanie, insight, doesn't out, he's now giving his first intstephanie, insiglife doesn't out, he's now giving his first intstephanie, insiglife in esn't it, stephanie, into life in prison? well, absolutely. so what me about this? so, what struck me about this? so, first was sentenced first of all, he was sentenced 30 in prison for 30 months in prison for concealing to avoid concealing assets to avoid debts. he served 231 days. but what struck me about this is he spoke about a number as opposed being boris. nobody cared whether he was a wimbledon champion, tennis champion or so forth. but he talked about wandsworth, ahp, wandsworth . he wandsworth, ahp, wandsworth. he described it as extremely dirty and extremely dangerous . he and extremely dangerous. he talked about murderers, child drug dealers, every kind of you can imagine. well, that's what you find in prisons. but the fact he had to be protected and he now has these blood brothers who who came to his aid and protected him. but for me, it a

very interesting insight into the state of our do we get it right alone our legal system and our prisons. should they be harsher do you think so? because i think there's crime. and crime and punishment is a very question. and i think that if you you know, people know if they commit a crime, there should be punishment, then there should be punishment, then there should be punishment, then there should be rehabilitation and there should be attempts to educate and engage too much of . educate and engage too much of. what we see around in terms of the infrastructure, the old victorian buildings, the lack of space, recidivism that mean people going back and committing crimes or learning more comes back from that. so if we're going to have a commitment to of things, that's a really key one. and i think we have to a bit of an elephant in the room when it comes to our prisons, which is that the question of the war on drugs of that on drugs and the impact of that on everyone and people. if everyone and on people. so if you away non—violent crimes you took away non—violent crimes where things that they where people do things that they choose that choose to do themselves that don't other people? there don't harm other people? there would be lot of people that would be lot of people that would our prisons would not be in our prisons

there'd a lot of other areas there'd be a lot of other areas and not be taken. the treasury could some from it could make some money from it you a harm reduction you could have a harm reduction approach. also mean approach. but it would also mean that everything from international syndicates and crime people crime gangs to moving of people . terrorism everything would . terrorism and everything would not rich. there not be on the rich. and by there are some countries that have done and there are some done that and there are some states, that are states, america, that are experiments exploring experiments in exploring with that. think that, know that. but i think that, you know , how we treat , the question of how we treat prisoners in and our prisoners in society and our nofion prisoners in society and our notion of rehabilitation and all that really speaks to who we are. and we need to have a commitment to those things. well, this is your expertise? of course, stephanie, what what would you do? well to start with, absolutely. first all, with, absolutely. first of all, i think we should be i don't think we should be taking lessons the taking any lessons from the united america in united states of america in terms prison population terms of our prison population or run our prisons. but or how to run our prisons. but i do this calls for extra in do think this calls for extra in our prisons who work in the prisons. those who are in the prisons. those who are in the prisons and of course, in justice system. full stop. this an has been an area that has been underfunded a significant amount of time . and until we get there of time. and until we get there and what boris talks about is, you know , not having breakfast, you know, not having breakfast,

he talks about the lack of humanity in our jails at the end humanity in ourjails at the end of the day, whatever reason of the day, for whatever reason . know there are people . and we know there are people in prisons shouldn't be in prisons who shouldn't be there some of the reasons there for some of the reasons alan about. but we need to alan spoke about. but we need to bnng alan spoke about. but we need to bring humanity and bring back the humanity and properly the justice properly fund the justice system, including . okay, right . system, including. okay, right. olivia utley came in before just to talk about law in scotland is likely to be passed tonight. this is to people aged 16 to 17 a change sex on that from the ages of 16 and 17 change sex on that certificate . this is a bit that certificate. this is a bit of a hot potato. alan you know, there's that there's the activists who are incredibly passionate about this topic. and then there are those of us who want to discuss it calmly. what's your position on it? well if we've got rules and laws , if we've got rules and laws, you've got to be 18 to drink alcohol and to vote. i this astonishing that we're talking about 16 and 17 year olds and then there's that one question. and then decision about that. i mean , it's not just about that.

mean, it's not just about that. it's also it looks like an active policy that's being promote . and the question that promote. and the question that they would have months to make a decision about their gender and there are some people that are actively encouraging particularly young people to think about things in a certain way. that's not an open discussion that's driving things in a certain direction. and it is the element of i do think there is an element of that coercion would again the bill will need for will remove need for a psychiatric diagnosis of gender dysphoria reduces the time someone must have been permanently living in that gender before they can apply two years to only three months. do you see as a potentially problem , stephanie? and if so, what might problems be ? well, the uk might problems be? well, the uk government has already stressed that they would may challenge the bill if it is passed by refusing to recognise certificates. or maybe there's a very of a legal challenge . i very of a legal challenge. i think the difficulty is here is there are lots of powerful voices it's an emotive topic and i think what is needed is

sensibility to be drawn into this discussion and hopefully after the debate continues today because i understand that due to the light speed on a timer awkward reasons that the debate had to end in the in the wee hours of morning but hoping that when this debate resumes that that sensibility is brought back into discussion . what does that into discussion. what does that look like, though? what it look like, it ensures that that safe guards proper safeguards are built into this policy to address some of the concerns the reasonable that i've had in this discussion . so for instance just discussion. so for instance just to give you an idea, jamie green , co—chair of hollywood's lgbt plus group, says that it would mean anyone convicted of a sexual offence who wants to apply for a certificate need to be fully risk assessed . partly be fully risk assessed. partly the risk, isn't it, that end up in prisons. you have , as in prisons. you have, as i mentioned before, to who's committed a crime, but then will say, well, i am now a woman and then will end up in a women's

and a women's prison. so that's the that's the potential complication. but anyway, that's broken this this hour. so we will probably again will talk about probably again tomorrow. been asking tomorrow. we have been asking for poll results on twitter for your poll results on twitter about whether you be changing your behaviour at bev turner. that's me wants to know due to strikes when you change your behaviour this christmas as we're being advised and i didn't change from from the moment we started it 88% if you have said no thank you very much if you've enjoyed we've done today just tell one person what would you say. find gb news. it's good you like it. alan miller. stephanie boyce thank you for your intelligence debate this morning. coming up next is gb news with mark longhurst on bev turner. we'll see tomorrow morning ten. hello i'm morning at ten. hello i'm cleanser with your weather . cleanser with your weather. brighter skies across england and wales through this afternoon . further showers across and northern ireland in the far north of . england with a keen north of. england with a keen breeze here . low pressure never breeze here. low pressure never too far away, delivering those showers with , those stronger showers with, those stronger winds. you can see through

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