no, no, it's. i'll take it . no, no, it's. i'll take it. well, a good afternoon everybody. you are with patrick christys right here on gb news. now up. yeah, have a stroke . now up. yeah, have a stroke. accidentally go into labour at home or your heart because thousands of ambulance walk out in a dispute over pay. 63% of the people go back . ambulance the people go back. ambulance workers strike, 65% of people back. the nurses, drugs that's the latest polls. all you want of them. the blame game is in full flow. health secretary steve barclay says health workers are deliberately targeting patients and that they have refused to work . unions, have refused to work. unions, however, are blaming the government. i want to know whose

side are you on over this. who do you blame? even before today's strikes? almost of the ambulance trust in england had critical with , huge critical incidents with, huge pressure on the services. so yes, it's about time to get to . yes, it's about time to get to. also this hour, we want to fly smart be about to take off but now we also have offshore processing the home secretary has suggested processing could be back on the table water really cruise ships and migrants and all of that. i am on security at a time we we'll bnng security at a time we we'll bring the very very latest and in scott and controversial gender reforms are likely to pass at hollyrood today. if it does then 15 year old children will be able to begin the process of changing their gender under snp laws. of course you vote for that at the next general election in scotland with you and all will be about independent. nothing the trans stuff. anyway, let me know your gbviews@gbnews.uk i one gbviews@gbnews.uk i just one question today really is question for you today really is the topic in the most important topic in town. do blame for ambulance town. who do blame for ambulance strikes gbviews@gbnews.uk but that actually had headlines .

that actually had headlines. good afternoon . it's minutes good afternoon. it's minutes past three. i am aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. i'm in a unions have reacted angrily after . the government accused after. the government accused them of making a conscious choice to harm patients by striking across england and wales . meanwhile, everyone watch wales. meanwhile, everyone watch to be warned that if we want to where it went where steve barclay claims unions are refusing to work with the government at a national level over how they cover emergency calls. strike action unite . calls. strike action unite. sharon graham says his comments are a lie and an embarrassment for him in the government g and b has called the comments insulting and unison. general secretary christina mcateer says mr. barclay doesn't want to negotiate . we sit down in negotiate. we sit down in a room. you have bit of give and take and both sides . i'm getting take and both sides. i'm getting nothing from him or from this government. all they're saying to is we can't negotiate but group. and where does that leave ? one the reasons the ? one of the reasons the ambulance service nhs such

ambulance service nhs is in such ambulance service nhs is in such a dire state, it's because they haven't invested in workforce. so people leave . those who are so people leave. those who are left are under increasing. these people get me breaks. they people don't get me breaks. they hardly get the off. they work excessive overtime because this is the only way the service can run. however health secretary maintains the government trying to work constructively with the trade unions clearly will need to look at the data from today to look at the data from today to see whether the exemptions that the trade unions have promised. material ice they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum disruption, but on the other hand that they do not want to cause to home patients. so we've tried to work constructively with the trade unions of if we see unions. of course, if we see significant and patient harm, then as a government we will need look at what done in need to look at what done in terms minimum service levels terms of minimum service levels . paramedic paul turner despite today's action, patients should feel safe. and striking workers still responding to emergencies . we have responded to the life and limb calls that have come in

so as far as we're concerned , so as far as we're concerned, been no issue to patients today. what is amazing today , though, what is amazing today, though, is the amount of calls that we normally see coming in. we aren't seen today . those calls aren't seen today. those calls aren't seen today. those calls are significantly lower than what we what we do. and therefore , today, you know, therefore, today, you know, these patients will be getting better treatment than what they do any other day . and it's been do any other day. and it's been confirmed today that nurses scotland will announce strike dates in the new year. that's after the royal college of nursing members overwhelmingly rejected the latest pay deal from . the scottish government. from. the scottish government. 82% voted against the offer, which said would ensure staff in scotland remain the best paid nhs workers in the uk. scotland remain the best paid nhs workers in the uk . a man who nhs workers in the uk. a man who admitted murdering pregnant partner and three children in derbyshire will spend the rest his life in jail. damien bendall was given a whole life order killing terry harris. our children and john paul bennett and lacey's friend connie gant , and lacey's friend connie gant, and lacey's friend connie gant, a clawhammer in killamarsh september last year. a clawhammer in killamarsh september last year . the 32 year september last year. the 32 year

old also pleaded guilty raping one of the children. the prosecute duo told the court they were brutal , vicious and they were brutal, vicious and cruel attacks . a defenceless cruel attacks. a defenceless woman and young children , though woman and young children, though the home secretary says the government is actively the use of cruise ships to house asylum seekers. suella braverman says the vessels, along with disuse , the vessels, along with disuse, houday the vessels, along with disuse, holiday parks and former student halls are among the options being at to help reduce the reliance on hotels. she told the lords justice and home affairs committee that hotels are an unacceptable cost to the taxpayer and alternative sites needed.the taxpayer and alternative sites needed. the home secretary also addressed the delay in sending migrants to rwanda. we are returning people almost every week to various countries around world. we do that through scheduled flights . we charter scheduled flights. we charter flights. so we're in a variety of discussions with several airlines for lots different destinations when it comes to rwanda . the moment the delivery

rwanda. the moment the delivery of rwanda, i.e. removing people to rwanda is on pause. it's on hold . we are going through hold. we are going through litigation. the high court ruled the government's post—brexit scheme, which would demand the citizens to reapply for the right to live and work in the uk is unlawful. the independent monitoring. that's a body set up to oversee citizens rights argued is breaching its withdrawal with the eu. home minister simon murray says the government intend to appeal the ruling ruling and this is gb news. we'll bring you more as. it happens. but now it is. back to . to. patrick you guys go to . hey, there we you guys go to. hey, there we go. right. okay. we start this hour with our very top story. thousands of ambulance workers have walked out in a pay dispute

and working issues as well within the last hour, a veteran nurse , a lifelong conservative nurse, a lifelong conservative voters said the party has lost his vote over their treatment of . the nhs staff saying the health secretary has made him feel worthless over comments by steve barclay. he said that the unions have made a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients. it's worthwhile noting that because blame game is now starting unions blaming the government. enough . steve government. fair enough. steve barclay of the government barclay off of the government saying that it's the unions felt they a conscious choice to they have a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients . i want inflict harm on patients. i want to know what you think about that. whose side you on that gbviews@gbnews.uk ? around 25,000 gbviews@gbnews.uk? around 25,000 call handlers, paramedics and ambulance drivers have walked out today and have been at picket lines throughout country. the public has been warned to only call 999 in the case of an emerging and say yes so that you get ill today. basically all london reporter alice porter is outside waterloo ambulance station this afternoon because

he'd rather a lot going on you that's all because through a place like that. yes it's a noisy line behind me. this one of 28 units in the picket lines in london. but my is i was just speaking to one paramedic and they all to leave the picket line go to any category one emergency calls any moment. they're saying on average , one they're saying on average, one person is leaving the picket across london an hour to tend to emergency calls. but you were just saying there, of course, people are being advised to only call if they believe they may be dying. that is incredibly strong language, almost as strong as the language which we've been heanng the language which we've been hearing . stephen barclay and hearing. stephen barclay and from unions, both very much blaming other for the situation . they were talking late last night between different bodies, different and stephen barclay but obviously to no avail. hence the striking . i was actually the striking. i was actually earlier speaking to the general secretary of unison christina

hannay, and this is what she had to say to me about those talks. we sit down in a room, you have a bit of give take on both sides. but i'm getting nothing from him or from this. all they're to me is we can't they're saying to me is we can't negotiate. but p and where does that us? one of the that leave us? one of the reasons the ambulance service, the is in such a dire state the nhs is in such a dire state because haven't invested in because they haven't invested in the leave the workforce. so people leave those who are left are under increasing pressure. these people give me a great people don't give me a great day. how big a deal? they work excessive overtime because this is the only way the service run . as is the only way the service run. as me that from unison of course all these strikes pay is very much at the heart of it. so government say they have offered a 1400 pound pay review to . the a 1400 pound pay review to. the ambulance workers that they they've taken on board suggestions from the independent pay suggestions from the independent pay review . but of course it's pay review. but of course it's important point out that it's not anything that's binding . the

not anything that's binding. the government doesn't have to do that. and in fact, multiple times this , the government have times this, the government have gone against the independent reviews. they have to reviews. they don't have to abide by they have chosen to abide by it. they have chosen to abide by it. they have chosen to abide by it. they have chosen to abide by of course, abide by it. but of course, that's led to huge amount of frustration , not just from, of frustration, not just from, of course, ambulance workers, but, of course, nurses are of course, nurses who are striking only yesterday. think striking only yesterday. i think the concern is that this the real concern is that this issue is not being resolved and christmas is so only just around the corner. we've got more strikes expected on wednesday with ambulance workers to see this increasing , heightened this increasing, heightened rhetoric between government and the unions doesn't seem to be calming any time soon. no, i not. there is very much a blame game on. thank you very much, alison. paul for reporting from picket line in waterloo. the flooding in thick and fast going to be covering this pretty much throughout the show as, i'm sure you would imagine. i am asking you would imagine. i am asking you in line the fact that there is a whopping great big blame game going who do blame game going on. who do you blame for position we're in for the position that we're in at the minute? steve barclay not

his words when came to the his words when it came to the ambulance strike, saying that they're deliberately they're essentially deliberately targeting patients unions, of course, been course, saying that they've been given derogatis and given a derogatis pay offer and that it's a mixed bag that they want it's a mixed bag in them coming in the inbox. keep them coming in. go there shortly. gb in. i'll go there shortly. gb news are, gbnews.uk. very news are, gbnews.uk. just very quickly, bit of context quickly, a little bit of context for i to our for you before i go to our political editor, darren mccaffrey of the mccaffrey in terms of the services area. i've just services in your area. i've just got the latest here everywhere. apart from the east of england, a right basic , a striking right and basic, basically, them have said basically, all of them have said that a critical incident that there's a critical incident going category one going on and that category one are only ones that are are the only ones that are really to rise to today and that is life threatening injuries, such cardiac arrest. so such as cardiac arrest. so everyone else, which includes strokes, sepsis, a burns and people giving birth at home no baby coming is just now. yes. reports the number of people phoning nine nine appears to have dropped in some parts of england today as the staff strike. that's important not actually calling for an ambulance . the west midlands ambulance. the west midlands ambulance trusts is thanking people heeding advice to people for heeding advice to only call in an emergency. let's go now to offers glad see darren

mccaffrey who's in westminster down thank you very much down and. thank you very much steve very, very much. steve barclay very, very much. putting this, putting the blame for this, the unions it's difficult to work out, patrick in many ways what the strategy the government is in all of this they're having emergency meetings we had another one in whitehall another cobra one in whitehall today attended by various ministers , not just steve ministers, not just steve barclay because clearly these strikes are having impact on strikes are having an impact on a of different ministers a number of different ministers , ministries, i should say , not , ministries, i should say, not least for the ministry of defence, caught in defence, who've been caught in in regards at fulfil some in many regards at fulfil some of these functions and roles. i think in many regard though what is notable is the rhetoric of the government has been dodge up massively in the last number of days, not least of all steve barclay accusing real anger in the unions when he said that at the unions when he said that at the unions when he said that at the unions had taken a conscious to inflict harm on patient at the worst possible time of the year around christmas. now that provokes a pretty angry response the unions branding that as a blatant lie so that does seem at

least to be what the government's response is at moment, which is not to go to the negotiating table, not to suggest the pay is up for grabs . all of this at but rather to attack the unions, not why might they be doing that? what if you look at the opinion polls at the moment, at least it seems to suggest when comes to the paramedics nurses paramedics and the nurses opinion their opinion seems to be on their side, on government side, not on the government side. that differs when you side. and that differs when you talk about border cards talk about border force cards and strikes and postal workers , and strikes and postal workers, for example. but have to say the government is in a bit of a tncky government is in a bit of a tricky situation because frankly, there is no seemingly end to all of this. the unions are not talking about the strikes not just over strikes lasting not just over christmas and the new year, new yean christmas and the new year, new year, but in to january and february of next year. and the government's not prepared to compromise this and point to the fact that it is up the pay fact that it is up to the pay bodies to sort this out if they're not prepared, do that. where will public opinion fall down on? will it potentially as strikes carry on? will they

start attacking the unions for not compromising ? or will they not compromising? or will they frankly blame government for not coming to the table to start negotiations ? it could it could negotiations? it could it could really backfire on rishi sunak and the cabinet. yeah it's definitely a tightrope situation , isn't it? darren mccaffrey, thank you very much , chief thank you very much, chief political editor. that westminster just wasn't easy. the political angle on it. we've had picket lines they've got your views coming in as it looks as though striking paramedics could continue though to have the vast majority of public support. always keep support. i always always keep an eye polls on eye on the opinion polls on apparently it does that apparently anyway. it does that upwards of 60. in fact, let's a look at the exact stats show. it clearly shows 63% of people, 63% of people back ambulance workers are on strike today with nurses who walked out yesterday having even more public support. 65% of people support their calls that so poll i fascinated by that really and i want to hear from you gbviews@gbnews.uk will be

fascinate to see whether or not this support drops as people can't get an ambulance today or if this rolls on into the new yeah if this rolls on into the new year. but we'll have to wait and see. let's me now to tom coffey, a paramedic who's been on a night shift. believe. tom, thank you very very much. so just fill me in a little bit. exactly. and our viewers know, listeners exactly who you are, what you do. so you just go off the back of night shift. if you make a. of a night shift. if you make a. yeah all, thank you for yeah first of all, thank you for having me show . yeah, i having me on the show. yeah, i was on a night shift last night. are we on another night shift tonight. what so tonight. i personally what so i work in the southwest of england and yeah i personally won't striking however i do sympathy for my colleagues who choose to strike has been an absolutely agonising for them strike or no strike. i've got respect for everyone i work with, but personally i won't be. well, just fill me in a little bit on why you won't be striking because you epitomise because i think you epitomise where lot of people are and kind of where i'm at really, which is massive sympathy for the job

that you do. i absolutely couldn't do it. and if i ever had call an ambulance, you know, i would hope that someone like yourself turns up, but they're all moral connotation to the idea somebody in your going idea of somebody in your going on so why are you not on strike. so why are you not striking ? well, absolutely . you striking? well, absolutely. you say that response is will be happening to kashmiri ones and twos today, to be honest, back before strike, we're struggling to get to anyway. people are waiting and hours especially over the past couple weeks for responses and i have to do my little bit to keep the service my moral conscience won't personally let me walk out on this people are waiting for ambulances seen it first hand so yeah well i've yeah i'm of glad that you brought that up because ihave that you brought that up because i have got a few facts and figures here in front of me about waiting times, ambulance targets as well. when it targets as well. and when it comes know, hoping you comes to, you know, hoping you get an ambulance within a matter of or minutes, i should say. you know, suppose way if

know, suppose in any way if a category one they would like you to hear about 7 minutes apparently the average about 9.2 6 minutes i think i'll stop. it's not the worst time in the world, is it? but then it kind of seems to slip down quite dramatically. category want dramatically. category they want you about 18 minutes you there in about 18 minutes as a apparently actual a target. apparently the actual average minutes. and then average is 48 minutes. and then category three, 2 hours in actual time, 2 hours, 43, you get the that really am. get the drift that really am. i'm so some people are i'm so, so some people are saying, oh the service that we're already getting from the ambulance isn't good enough, that that's sounds a bit unfair to say what do you think. well at the moment we are unfortunately failing patients . unfortunately failing patients. you know, if somebody suffers a cardiac arrest, minutes count and if ambulances are stuck outside hospitals, as they are at the moment we can't get to them . so when i'm at a hospital them. so when i'm at a hospital with a patient, we had a radio go off frequently and i say there's no one is to send and it's absolutely soul destroying be sat outside hospital not

being able to help people i've got to say with the strike action as well far more of an issue than just pay so many in the mainstream idea. and unfortunately, the unions as well which have you believe it's about pay. it's a far bigger issue than it is the fact so much of time sat much of our time wasted sat outside hospitals and the hospitals or the social care system really do need to work together to improve on this flow so we can get to those emergencies and helping them not only save lives. right. so how do sort that then? do we sort that out then? because right. this has because you are right. this has been pay. i think been dominated by pay. i think that probably been that was probably been exacerbated by fact that exacerbated by the fact that pretty much everyone is suffering of living suffering during cost of living crisis so crisis at the moment. so when your average man and your average common man and woman street is looking woman on the street is looking their not their bank balance and not seeing that would seeing numbers that they would like, and then you hear people going strike. i think it's going on strike. i think it's natural that it is natural to assume that it is mostly pay. you're mostly about pay. but you're saying it's conditions on being able to function in as well. so just tells me a bit about what could improve you are could improve that you are spending far too long sitting outside hospitals with patients at how fix

at the minute. how do we fix unfortunately whoever comes up with the answer for that will be a very clever person. i've got to so we've got to improve community services and health prevention as well. so avoiding people go to hospital in the first place, ensuring that people got quick access to gp appointments . so if somebody appointments. so if somebody can't through to their gp, can't get through to their gp, the help will actually get worse and they will to go to and then they will have to go to hospital. a result . there's lots hospital. a result. there's lots of things that can be done and unfortunately no easy unfortunately there's no easy answers. i pray i that we answers. but i pray i that we can solve get over this . we've can solve get over this. we've just got time for one more one with you really. now look, as you can imagine i got loads of emails and got them now from people who are just very very because they might today i want an ambulance you do think that unequivocally these strikes going to have an impact it comes to public health. steve barclay health secretary has said that the unions are basically deliberately targets saying patients . is there an

deliberately targets saying patients. is there an element of truth to that ? is it's really truth to that? is it's really tncky truth to that? is it's really tricky to say. i mean, personally you said the unions where i'm working they've allowed people who are striking to respond to cash we won't call such as cardiac arrests and seizures and cuts agreed to because it can start to toxin strikes. so are very you strikes. so if you are very you know i've no doubt the anomalies will get to you so please on my it's my message the public would be no nine if you're be call no no nine if you're seriously ill but you get to seriously ill but if you get to hospital in a taxi or if hospital either in a taxi or if somebody can help you , it would somebody can help you, it would be really good people . could do be really good people. could do that. i always feel a bit ropey asking this, but i've got to really the context of really give the context of i know it's not just about know that it's not just about pay - know that it's not just about pay . i know we've spoken pay. i know that we've spoken about conditions well about the conditions as well is about the conditions as well is a part it can i we'll stop a part of it can i we'll stop short of you exactly what amount your on it feels like a bit like as invasive as going to your medical doesn't which medical notes doesn't say which i'm one would i'm sure no one would particularly to do. but particularly want us to do. but yeah. have you a pay at all yeah. have you on a pay at all in the last couple of years. so i relatively quite new into the job myself has only been working

in a couple of years. so in it for a couple of years. so it'd be really difficult for me to colleagues who've in to say colleagues who've been in the a lot longer, the job for a lot longer, i would have a little bit more sympathy them over pay. sympathy with them over pay. you know, haven't seen their know, if they haven't seen their pay know, if they haven't seen their pay quite as much as they pay go up quite as much as they expect. do have some sympathy expect. i do have some sympathy they'd be me pay me they'd be on first me pay me quite into the job comment on quite into the job to comment on that as a new as a relative that but as a new as a relative to new recruit your i know look we want more money, we all want more money, right? don't wrong, you're don't get me wrong, but you're all with the pay that all right, with the pay that you've of the minute, are you've got of the minute, are you?i you've got of the minute, are you? i everything can be better, but i don't struggle to pay my bills do overtime as well. bills, do some overtime as well. so i go with i put it that way or i. right i really, really appreciate you coming on and look thank for that. you do look thank you for that. you do and thank for fact that you and thank you for fact that you just the back of a night just got off the back of a night shift. you've taken time shift. you've taken the time to come and eloquently. i can come and speak eloquently. i can only know, anyone who only say, you know, anyone who needs an ambulance in a time of crisis be incredibly lucky to see with the blues see you there with the blues tears. thank you very, tears. and thank you very, very massively. it very massively. appreciate it very much time. coffee. much for all my time. coffee. that was paramedic straight that was paramedic just straight off a night shift

off the back of a night shift and let's be honest answering i think pretty much a broad range of questions right of questions that right from conditions going conditions that they're going through to why through at the minute to why he's some of he's not why some of his colleagues where the pay level is at the minute and kind of who's to blame the situation who's to blame for the situation at minute to at the minute there's to be a lot of this coming through. i want reaction as ever the want your reaction as ever the email i keep banging on email i know i keep banging on about it it's because i love about it but it's because i love to from you. get them to hear from you. get them coming in loads of you already have a to on the back of have a go to them on the back of this break coming we this break because coming we could the verge. another could be on the verge. another big for you of seeing big issue for you of seeing offshore introduced here offshore introduced right here in when channel migrants in the uk when channel migrants were channel were across the channel illegally. i hope insecurity ultimately you very ultimately will bring you very latest on the pond as the health secretary steve barclay is accused trade unions of making conscious decision to inflict on patients. he's not his words as thousands of i'm going to staff walk out we will be having a massive massive ask big debates on all of this whose is it if serious harm comes to patients dunng serious harm comes to patients during strike action , whose during strike action, whose fault is it? we're talking about.

okay, people , let's not all okay, people, let's not all strike today because the home secretary has confirmed the government is actively considering the use of cruise ships to accommodate asylum seekers, giving evidence to the lords, justice and home affairs committee braverman committee suella braverman confirm that as well as disused houday confirm that as well as disused holiday parks, military sites, the of is also being the use of is also being assessed . so the home secretary assessed. so the home secretary also defended the use of private contractors find asylum seeker accommodation over allegations they are making vast profits which they obviously might want. joins us live the studio to pick this one apart. mark and i take it away. i start with cruise ships. maybe to you. yeah, well, there is an imperative, there is no doubt, to try to find accommodation for asylum . accommodation for asylum. 100,000 people at the moment in

accommodation in uk awaiting asylum decisions. some are in local authority dispersal so they into council houses or in they into council houses or in the rented private rented sector . the other is about 40,000 are in hotels costing an almighty sum . mone y £3.5 billion a year sum. money £3.5 billion a year for these 100,000 individuals. so the is looking to alternatives that's why the prime minister said last week that among things they were looking into is the use of disused holiday parks , student disused holiday parks, student accommodation , maybe military accommodation, maybe military sites . but we know that if you sites. but we know that if you go these sites on land , as we go these sites on land, as we saw with linton on news in yorkshire, you get villagers in that local community concerned about the prospect of three times the population their village suddenly coming taking up residence in the old raaf

base. up residence in the old raaf base . so another potential base. so another potential avenue they're looking is cruise ships. now people have been speculating for some time that this might be good alternative possibility . now giving evidence possibility. now giving evidence to the lords home affairs committee suella braverman indicate that this was being actively concerned . just actively concerned. just consider this is what she and as you heard from the pm, we will bnng you heard from the pm, we will bring forward a range of alternate live sites and they will disused holiday parks . a will disused holiday parks. a former student halls are sites i should say we are looking at those sites. i wouldn't say anything's confirmed yet, but we need to bring forward out thousands of places . and when thousands of places. and when you when about when you talk abouti you when about when you talk about i would just say and all i can say because we are in discussions with a wide variety of providers that everything is still on the table . okay. well, still on the table. okay. well, first day rwanda planes may be taking off and now cruise ships offshore processing may be some people would be back in favour

of this, but not as i understand it. the human rights law. no. and one of those baroness kennedy was in lords on that committee questioning suella braverman today , fear to braverman today, fear to describe her. i think as far as the government's categorisation of our particular breed of lawyers as the leftie lawyers that have been throwing spanners into the works on a regular bafis into the works on a regular basis when it comes to immigration in the asylum on, this particular questioning line, the question being helena kennedy was rather upset about . kennedy was rather upset about. the fact that these private companies making huge amounts of money, which they are out of, trying to find accommodation and hotel accommodation for asylum seekers, as she says hopes it would be better done by the likes of ngos. would be better done by the likes of ngos . this is the likes of ngos. this is the exchange between suella braverman and baroness kennedy.

there is a huge amount of money that going into accommodating a very large number of asylum , a very large number of asylum, a lot of profit is made by the private companies that you're using to that. if you look at companies house and look at the profits that have been made by those companies, it's quite shocking purse shocking that the public purse is paying out to private companies they're companies and that they're making from it. companies and that they're making from it . why making profit from it. why aren't you using ngos , other aren't you using ngos, other sorts of bodies that are not going to be profit making to provide the sort support that asylum seekers need? it's not realistic with respect to local , you know, we've got i said 100,000 people that we need to house. if you can point me to a charity can provide 100,000 beds i'd be very interested just isn't one. yeah i mean that's the answer isn't it. i mean there an ngo that could do that so. right. no but neither are these private companies. so she's been slightly disingenuous with that answer because the private companies are not

providing 100,000 beds. they're going off and they're speaking to hotel chains and say, look , to hotel chains and say, look, could we come to an arrangement to take over your hotel for year or however long it might be ? or however long it might be? this is how much money you get will guarantee you full occupancy. so they're acting as the sort of go between from the home office to the hotel charge so i guess kennedy is right to an extent you could have an ngo non profit making ngo or even a local authority doing that particular legwork rather than these private making a of money. okay, interesting stuff . we'll okay, interesting stuff. we'll watch this space when it comes to the old ships as well. i suppose. to the old ships as well. i suppose . not really. could be. suppose. not really. could be. i mean, how practical is that? because either a load of disused ships are going to end up paying migrants. yeah. within the industry is. and remember, industry there is. and remember, they've through a downturn they've gone through a downturn because covid as well. so because of covid as well. so there are there are definitely cruise ships out there and it kind of gets one of the big

fundamental issues about trying find sites on land which is no one wants hundreds or potentially thousands of asylum seekers necessarily in their backyard if they're offshore on a cruise ship you get you know , a cruise ship you get you know, you managed to circumvent that particular problem. well, thank you very, very much. why now? homeland security ? that is a homeland security? that is a keep you abreast of latest situation. what do you make of all of that? ladies and gentlemen, first, there was a little bit of a wait in the high court. i when it came to rwanda flies taking now flies taking off and now potentially processing as your views but coming up contrary virtual is virtual gender reforms a lot is facing scotland today if it does 15 year old children will be able to begin the process of changing under smp. changing their gender under smp. trans in mind that trans laws bear in mind that kids can already change their gender school register gender on the school register without consent. as without parental consent. and as the secretary barclay has the health secretary barclay has accused, unions of making accused, trade unions of making accused, trade unions of making a conscious decision inflict a conscious decision to inflict on patients, i will ask whose fault is it if ? serious harm fault is it if? serious harm comes to patients during this

strike . i will of course, be strike. i will of course, be getting your views i've been thrust into it for a while now, but i promise you i'll do it when i come back after those headunes. when i come back after those headlines . it is 3:32. when i come back after those headlines. it is 3:32. i'm out. i'm showing the gb newsroom ambulance unions have reacted angrily after the accused them of making a conscious choice to harm patients by striking england and wales. meanwhile, we want to watch a meanwhile and we want to watch a meanwhile and we want to watch a meanwhile and we want to wait, wait, wait . steve want to wait, wait, wait. steve barclay claims unions are refusing work with the government at a national level oven government at a national level over. how they cover emergency calls during strike action unite . sharon graham says his comments are blatant lie and an embarrassment for him in the government. gmb is called comments insulting and unison general secretary christine mccann says mr. barclay doesn't want to negotiate. we sit down in a room you have a bit of give and take on both sides find

nothing from him or from this government. all they're saying to me is we can't negotiate bp and where does that leave us? one of the reasons the ambulance service, the nhs is in such a dire state because they dire state is because they haven't invested the workforce. so people leave . those are so people leave. those who are left under increasing . these left are under increasing. these people meal breaks. people don't get meal breaks. they hardly get the off. they work excessive because this is the only way the service can run . and who admitted murdering his pregnant partner and three children in derbyshire will spend the rest his life in jail. damien bandle was given a whole life order for killing terry harris. our lacey and john paul bennett and lacey's friend connie gant with a clawhammer in killamarsh in september last yeah killamarsh in september last year. the 32 year old also pleaded guilty to raping one of the children . the home secretary the children. the home secretary says the government is actively considering the use of cruise ships to house asylum seekers. suella braverman the vessels along with disused holiday parks and former student, are among the options being at to help

reduce the reliance on hotels. she told the lord justice and home affairs committee. hotels are cost to the taxpayer and alternative sites are needed . alternative sites are needed. but does it for the moment that on tv, on dab plus radio is . on tv, on dab plus radio is. gb news? a quick look at today's markets the panel by you want point to one one $2 an d ,1.1412. the one one $2 and ,1.1412. the price gold is . £1,503.33 per price gold is. £1,503.33 per ounce. and footsie one hundreds is at 74, 61 .

okay. just before i got stuck into the very latest scottish madness , this taking place north madness, this taking place north of the border for you. have you been getting in touch? tracey in essex. i'm asking, who do you blame for the ambulance trucks taking today and who would you blame if indeed sadly die? and tracey been on. tracey says tracey has been on. tracey says it's of the unions. if it's the fault of the unions. if die need government's die nurses need the government's offer or ten months, offer for nine or ten months, why they wait until to why did they wait until now to strike? graham says the ambulance need ambulance and nurses need to wake strike against the wake up strike against the overpaid that is mismanaging them . but paul has a different them. but paul has a different view, says this government needs to simply not want to go. they simply not want to do anything to this country's sitting nation. john, again , sitting nation. john, again, really in favour of these drugs, he's saying that should be given a p45 if they strike but. well, just as a final view says, i do think the government as clear responsibility took its offer responsibility took up its offer . but he does go on to say that he's not in favour of these strikes. i think will's comment kind of where i would suspect

anyway the vast majority people are strikes but are does support the strikes but wouldn't it gets wouldn't necessarily be it gets a wet them a little bit more wet for them either of coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk. go gbviews@gbnews.uk. but we'll go north now, people. north of the border now, people. okay scottish parliament has been young been debating children as young as able to change as 16 should be able to change their gender. this their legal gender. this afternoon . don't what afternoon. i don't know what that means. can just do that means. they can just do it straight this afternoon. straight away this afternoon. whether they've been debating it this. are considering this. but msps are considering whether hurdles this. but msps are considering wichanging hurdles this. but msps are considering wichanging gender hurdles this. but msps are considering wichanging gender whicthdles to changing gender which are specified in 2004 gender specified in the 2004 gender wrecking act. if the bill is passed, those wanting to change that designation will no longer need. a doctor's diagnosed case of gender dysphoria . they will of gender dysphoria. they will also need to have lived in chosen gender forjust also need to have lived in chosen gender for just three months, and that's down from two years. i believe our political reporter olivia utley has been living in her chosen gender a lot longer than three months. what is on? yeah. so very, very controversial legislation , which controversial legislation, which has been going through holyrood for the last month or so and basically it removes all the

safeguard that are in place for changing gender. so under the new legislation , an adult, new legislation, an adult, anyone over 18 can live in their acquired gender. it's called for three months and then they can change their legal sex now. and if you're between 16 and 18, that goes up to six months. but way from what it was before, which was two years. now the problem is that that while there are a number of problems, one is that it opens the door to those who are actually transgender men , who wish to pose as a woman to gain access to women's spaces. that's one worry. so you could have men claiming that they're that female designating as female after three months living in their gen gender in order to, you know, put and criminals basically . and there was an basically. and there was an amendment was tabled last night. it was a marathon hollyrood last night lasted for 10 hours. there was amendment which was tabled by an snp backbencher actually, which mean that those who

which would mean that those who waiting awaiting trial for rape and abuse would be exempt from this wouldn't be able to gain the gender recognition. but that amendment was defeated so essentially they're just ploughing on with this legislation. the scenes hollyrood at the moment i've just been talking to someone. there are i mean, in saying there are hundreds and hundreds of women who are there sort of bear witness to what's going on that barely civility going on at the moment . that barely civility going on at the moment. this session this afternoon is expected to be very, very long as well . certain very, very long as well. certain complaints are being raised . the complaints are being raised. the fact that there's no real to bnng fact that there's no real to bring this legislation . usually bring this legislation. usually these sort of marathon sessions be reserved for something like a lockdown and that must be implemented immediately. the reason it seems the snp is so keen to get to a station through is that kate forbes , a close is that kate forbes, a close ally of nicholas sturgeon and on most issues is very anti this bill and they want to get it through before she comes back from leave in january he joke

appears to be why they're so keen on getting it over the line before christmas . and has before christmas. and has obviously raised lots of questions about whether legislation that's so seismic should be done this quickly . should be done this quickly. although those who are supporting the bill would say that it's necessary for trans people who are marginalised group to be their lives to be made easier in any way that's possible right . okay i'm possible okay right. okay i'm going go to questions but going to go to questions but just just quickly just very quick, almost like a little bullet thinking then. so in terms of made easier for terms of what's made easier for people, who are already people, people who are already men, who are on trial for things like rape can just change and change their legal so they could go three months of living in their required gender so they could in theory go to a women's prison. right. okay. or and just matt as well who have pretty ideas about women potentially if i mean me , i just decided that i mean me, i just decided that i wanted to be woman and lived as

a woman for three months. i could have. yes and those who are opposing the bill very clear to point out that not actually talking about trans transgender here, they're looking at people who deliberately wanting to who are deliberately wanting to exploit other exploit the system. the other separate those child , separate issue is those child, even under 16 year olds, if they live in their acquired gender, they would be able to change sex on their 16th birthday. great. all right . thank you very much. all right. thank you very much. i love you. really. that all political reporter will joining now is human rights activist miranda yardley. miranda, thank you wanted you very much. i just wanted make was clear on a few make sure i was clear on a few bits and bobs. it's great to have you on the show again. i'm keen know what you stand on keen to know what you stand on this you really this because when you really have extra layer to it. have the extra layer to it. well, which is that it looks as though ploughing with though snp is ploughing on with this, despite the fact that there huge protests, a lot there are huge protests, a lot of lived experience. of women with lived experience. they're statements they're giving their statements and big political and the fact the big political opponents on opponents sturgeon is off on maternity they to maternity leave. they want to rush it through it does beg question why are they this question why are they doing this this? well well they go the

interesting. they use the word reform because reform implies improved ment and this law isn't an improvement to anything i'd like to say outset i agree with most of what olivia has just said in. i would say that this really is a it's a undemocratic and cynical engineering of a country of laws with the rest of the uk and i think it is part of a mechanism sturgeon and the snp are trying to use to bring forth some kind of a further election independence to say we can't operate as a as state because we can't pass our own laws. so we go i think the is of how little thoughts and consider goes into these types of these of legislation in that the it's

attempts to include what i would consider be very very reasonable against bad actors have been voted down. it's just it's a horrific and really stupid piece of legislation. yeah i'm keen to just elaborate on that points on it because you know look if somebody feels as though you know or they're in the wrong body or they want to make those decisions, you know, i don't really think many people should have wrong with that . i have anything wrong with that. i think it's any business. but if people are concerned that there are loopholes that could be used for bad actors, then everyone has a right to be concerned about that and not sure those loopholes need to exist. do they . and currently right now i was some kind of you know, sex living north of the border it would be quite easy for me to become a woman and so women spaces wouldn't it unnecessarily easy. some would say .

spaces wouldn't it unnecessarily easy. some would say. i spaces wouldn't it unnecessarily easy. some would say . i well easy. some would say. i well yeah. what can i say. we've there are many documented of . there are many documented of. men who have been convicted of sexual crimes, who have manipulated to get themselves into women's spaces, into into rape shelters, into women's prisons by, by claiming these types of transgender identity and women have , women in the and women have, women in the most vulnerable circumstances have become collateral damage . have become collateral damage. yeah, just just just lastly , to yeah, just just just lastly, to rush you on this one, but lastly, i'm concerned obviously about women's rights, but also about women's rights, but also about children, really, because this is a massive life decision and, one that could have serious one way or the other and making it easier for children to genden it easier for children to gender. could that pose an issue? do you think absolutely terrible this been pushed by

this this change in legislation has been pushed by groups which claim take on the interests of lgbt . and the reality is that lgbt. and the reality is that they sorts of children who are looking to change gender are likely who will turn out to be lesbians or or gay men and. what's actually happening by changing gender is that they they are becoming ersatz heterosexuals . this is not in heterosexuals. this is not in the interests of lesbians or gay men either. in fact, it's not evenin men either. in fact, it's not even in the interests of what we used to call . even in the interests of what we used to call. if even in the interests of what we used to call . if the even in the interests of what we used to call. if the legal status of a had any meaning at? all it's about to be vaporised . all it's about to be vaporised. miranda thank you very , very miranda thank you very, very much. i really always appreciate your on that. and if i see you i hope you have a wonderful christmas as. hope you have a wonderful christmas as . well, miranda christmas as. well, miranda guardino is a human rights activist. grief well, there's a lot taking place north of the

border is we will return to that a little bit later on. but back to what some argue is to what some would argue is maybe main issue day, maybe the main issue of the day, isuppose maybe the main issue of the day, i suppose pressing issue of i suppose most pressing issue of the day is the health secretary, steve barclay, has accused health of health care unions of consciously inflicting on consciously inflicting harm on patients in patients by undertaking, in their strike action, their plan, strike action, ambulance walked on ambulance have walked out on their first day the plan two their first day of the plan two day period the day strike period with the majority trusts declaring majority of nhs trusts declaring a incident . well look, a critical incident. well look, the blame game is full swing, so we might as well hop on board particular bandwagon. i keen particular bandwagon. i am keen to know who you blame for the situation when at the moment f, f, we hope it doesn't f, f and. we hope it doesn't happen. people come to happen. but if people come to serious with me is serious harm. with me now is political commentator matthew standard and former editor of the mckenzie. so you the sun, kelvin mckenzie. so you already know this one is going to go particularly would to go particularly spicy, would imagine. will start imagine. matthew, i will start you. to blame for this you. who is to blame for this particular situation ? is it the particular situation? is it the unions or ? is it steve barclay unions or? is it steve barclay and co? i certainly think it's the unions or to be more precise . i certainly don't think it's the drivers, the paramedics ,

the drivers, the paramedics, people who devote lives, dedicate their lives serving the public, serving kelvin . you, public, serving kelvin. you, patrick. it's serving and all our families. patrick. it's serving and all our families . i think the our families. i think the government to do a lot more than it has done far it needs to get around the negotiate table. it seems to me the reason they're not doing that is because they're terrified of a domino effect . if they give in to the effect. if they give in to the nurses, if they give to ambulance, what is that? will they have to give in to postal workers? they have to give in to train people who train drivers and people who work railways generally. work on the railways generally. but they've do more, but they've got to do more, particularly in area of particularly in an area of society that matters as crucially as the health service. because if don't people will die . well, that's it. but talking people dying, kelvin if someone's poor elderly mother is in a crumpled heap at the bottom of the stairs, there's no ambulance or a woman goes into laboun ambulance or a woman goes into labour, which is apparently a category three. that must have been a money design. that policy is a category three. apparently a woman in labour and no

ambulance. i think people might be blame the be inclined to blame the strikers , i think the issue strikers, but i think the issue is the most aspect i've seen of these negotiations between between the unionised . and between the unionised. and nature and the ambulance trusts of which by way the unions unison are all run by communists anyway . i unison are all run by communists anyway. i mean, unison are all run by communists anyway . i mean, it unison are all run by communists anyway. i mean, it is a unison are all run by communists anyway . i mean, it is a shock. anyway. i mean, it is a shock. absolute shock, i'm sure your your viewers would be astonished as i was to discover that one of them was one of them has just been kicked out of the labour party for being way too left and the other person, the general secretary of the thing, i think it's unison in fact is a former communist herself. i mean the whole thing, it's all far left nonsense . the danger is the idea nonsense. the danger is the idea that you negotiate case by case literally when the phone goes so well what that. they've got two broken legs and arms is falling off now. we can't turn out for that. off now. we can't turn out for that . oh they've had a multiple

that. oh they've had a multiple serious heart attack. yeah, we'll do that. it an absolute disgrace that they will even think about doing the idea as your other commentator points out , that in fact, we all rely out, that in fact, we all rely it. the reason we rely on clapped out useless is because we pay a huge amount of money tax towards it. and i want to pay any tax towards it. and i want to pay any more for it and actually i don't want to earn any more money and it's like , well, how money and it's like, well, how fantastic the system will be ten times better than the system exists today. matthew your views 7 exists today. matthew your views ? i think in the case of the nurses and quite possibly in the case of the ambulance workers, this is an existential for help from the nhs i was engaging with a very senior or senior doctor, just a couple of days ago, getting her view she's working on the on the front line and her view is that doctors in a have been complicit in the degradation of the nhs over the past few years because they have been prepared to work way beyond

or significantly beyond what they be having to do in order to they be having to do in order to the service running. and as a consequence of that she feels the service is now at tipping the service is now at a tipping point where are unable point where they are unable deliver sorts of service deliver the sorts of service that they to do and that we that they need to do and that we all need them to do so we have to listen to people who, unlike kelvin unlike me, unlike patrick, have dedicated their lives to keeping people alive. if they are making this sort of “y if they are making this sort of cry for help than blaming them . cry for help than blaming them. we should look at why that why why are they screaming so loudly demanding help our society doesn't work at the moment. at the last count, there are hundred and 77 billionaires in the uk alone . together, hundred and 77 billionaires in the uk alone. together , £653 the uk alone. together, £653 billion is in the hands of 177 people. when you think of what nurses are asking and what that's a fraction of that britain isn't working just as covid, remember , maybe he would covid, remember, maybe he would cut you working in the late 1970s. okay, kelvin long some people are saying, well, the ambulance is already on hit in

that particular timing . so that particular timing. so people it's already not a particularly good service at all. maybe dispute over pay is just designed to line their pockets. what actually improve the quality of care at all well that goes back to the that goes to the argument about whether the nhs is worth saving in the first place and on the issue of the of the nhs workers on themselves to death for the future of mankind . i don't buy future of mankind. i don't buy that at all. yes, there are some hard working people , there are hard working people, there are some able people there. for instance, they take an extra three weeks, take off work for a yean three weeks, take off work for a year, but the average nurse makes 40 grand a year. that's it and that's digital though. i and that's nhs digital though. i totally got , totally accept you've got, you've got doctors who are now claiming all claiming that they're all overworked. the gp, i know one gp does two days a week, does 212 hour days, gets to third to the money, makes 66,000 when they ask, well why don't you work all the responses? i want to be my kids i understand to be with my kids i understand this, but it can't be solved by

a state run health system which clearly is no longer working. okay, matthew if you were in the same position , say you're on 34 same position, say you're on 34 grand a year, your job was as a paramedic, you had had some form of pay off roughly around the% mark, do you think today morally, if you got a phone call to say that elderly lady a broken heart happened was at the bottom of the stairs, would you break that picket line? what are you hoping ambulance are you hoping your ambulance are going to help or not would you have solidarity? our have solidarity? that's an our the haven't dedicated my the point i haven't dedicated my life public service i've been life to public service i've been journalist i've tried work for the bbc for nine years. i've tried my bit, but tried to do my bit, but i haven't put my self on the line in the in the way that these stories have rolled. and take me out to question if i were in out to question is if i were in that position, had been as that position, if i had been as generous these people generous as these people have with i'm just with their lives and i'm just little ever and then what i wouldn't be in that position. but i wouldn't i actually go and pick up an elderly person. i think it would be disingenuous of criticise these people

of me to criticise these people because what you because. they've done what you and kelvin and not done and kelvin and i have not done with their lives and that is elderly people, alive every day of the week . okay. very lastly, of the week. okay. very lastly, i literally i've got 30 seconds, max, with you. calvin, would you give any more money give them any more money whatsoever? but whatsoever? no, i wouldn't but i'd make sure that the next pay around dealt with the inflation that followed. they got the money. there wasn't any inflation in the february. there will be inflation. this february. they will do just great. just grit your teeth. the money will come. you okay? well, there you go. that's what you call a ding dong debate people you love say. matthew studied you love to say. matthew studied in political commentator. you love to say. matthew studied in formertical commentator. you love to say. matthew studied in formertical com the tator. you love to say. matthew studied in formertical com the sun, the former editor of the sun, calvin mckenzie. blames the calvin mckenzie. one blames the ambulance, in a sense, and the other person blames calls, other person blames the calls, the that's where the government. and that's where we a nation days, we are as a nation these days, like bear pit, susan said that we go gbviews@gbnews.uk. thank you everybody. i am you very much, everybody. i am about show . you very much, everybody. i am about show. i think you very much, everybody. i am about show . i think maybe about to show. i think maybe i'll show you some weather. probably up, we've got loads probably up, but we've got loads more your we've got more coming your way we've got more coming your way we've got more ambulance trucks and more on the ambulance trucks and of course well. we of course as well. are we talking fact might be talking about the fact might be offshore as as

offshore processing as well as you on off and digging you on is taking off and digging you on is taking off and digging you out. if you're a scottish child, you can just be a woman. now the were born a man now the fact you were born a man of .

the welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. now coming up, the general secretary of unison says the public be able to see through the government's aggressive tactics as christina mckenna's comments coming as thousands of ambulance workers gather at picket lines across the country as their walkout mainly over also about conditions in scotland have overwhelmingly rejected latest pay overwhelmingly rejected latest pay offer from the government. but get this, people because yougov poll suggests the majority an overwhelming majority an overwhelming majority of brits support the strikes both with nurses and

with ambulance workers. do you agree that ? i want to hear from agree that? i want to hear from you, get those views coming in. and the old disaster rears its head. yet again. rwanda might be back on the table and this afternoon, though, it does look like offshore might be to cruise ships for migrants. apparently our homeland security editor, mark white the very mark white will us the very latest that . we are latest on that. we are going north of border in scotland north of the border in scotland because gender because controversial gender reforms are likely to pass at hollyrood you will not hollyrood today. you will not believe the finer points of this. and gentlemen, this. ladies and gentlemen, strong allegations are being rushed one of rushed through what was one of nicola sturgeon's opponents is on layers to on maternity leave layers to unpack that. but if it does go through it means that 15 year old will able begin old children will be able begin the process of changing their gender smp trans and gender under smp trans and indeedin gender under smp trans and indeed in order to so as well they'll only have to have lived as the sex for a couple of months for example, i mean what could possibly wrong could possibly go wrong happy but go let me know but could go wrong. let me know your gbviews@gbnews.uk your thoughts, gbviews@gbnews.uk before your latest before it is your latest headunes before it is your latest headlines with polly . patrick.

headlines with polly. patrick. thank you and good afternoon to you . well, ambulance unions have you. well, ambulance unions have been reacting angrily after the government accused of making a conscious choice to harm patients by striking across england and wales. steve barclay claims unions are refusing to work within the government at a national level over how they're going to cover emergency calls dunng going to cover emergency calls during strike action. well, unite's sharon says his comments are blatant lie and embarrassment for him and the government . and the gmb union government. and the gmb union has called the comments insulting. unison is secretary christina mcanea says mr. barclay doesn't even want to negotiate . we sit down in negotiate. we sit down in a room. you have a bit of give and take and both sides. i'm not from him or from this government. all saying to me is we can't negotiate. and where does leave us? one of the reasons the ambulance service, the nhs in such a dire state is because they haven't invested in

the workforce. so people leave those are are under those who are are under increasing pressure . these increasing pressure. these people don't get meal breaks , people don't get meal breaks, they hardly off . they work they hardly get off. they work excessive overtime because this the only the service can run the only way the service can run well. for his part, the health secretary the government is trying to work constructively with the trade unions. clearly we will need to look at the data from today to see whether the exemptions that the trade unions have promised. material they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum disruption, but on the other hand, that they don't want to cause harm to patients. so we've tried to work constructively with the trade unions . of if we see unions. of course, if we see significant and patient harm, then as a government, we will need look what is done in need to look at what is done in terms of minimum levels terms of minimum service levels . well paramedic paul turner says despite action, patients should feel safe and striking workers are still responding . workers are still responding. emergencies we have responded to the life and calls that have

come in so as far as we're concerned , it's been no issue to concerned, it's been no issue to patients today . what is amazing patients today. what is amazing today, though, is amount of calls that we normally see coming we aren't seeing today. calls are significantly lower than what we what normally do and therefore , today, you know, and therefore, today, you know, these patients be getting better treatment than what they do any other day . meanwhile, nurses in other day. meanwhile, nurses in scotland will announce strike dates in the new year. that's after the royal college of nursing members over whelming leave rejected the latest deal on the table from the scottish government. 82% voted against the offer which ministers said ensure staff in scotland remain best paid nhs workers . the uk , best paid nhs workers. the uk, now a man who admitted murdering his partner and children in derbyshire , will spend the rest derbyshire, will spend the rest of his life in jail. damien bendall given a whole life order for killing terri harris, her

children lacey and john paul bennett . and lacey's friend bennett. and lacey's friend connie with a clawhammer in killamarsh in september year. the 32 year old also pleaded guilty to rape . one of the guilty to rape. one of the children, the prosecutor , the children, the prosecutor, the court . they were brutal, vicious court. they were brutal, vicious and, cruel attacks on a defenceless woman and young children children . now the home children children. now the home secretary says , the government secretary says, the government is actively considering use of cruise ships to house asylum seekers. sort of. rothman says the vessels along with disused houday the vessels along with disused holiday parks and former student halls are among being looked at to help produce the reliance on hotels . she told the lords hotels. she told the lords justice and home affairs committee. hotels are an acceptable cost to the taxpayer and alternative sites are needed.the and alternative sites are needed. the home secretary also addressed the delay in sending migrants to rwanda . we are migrants to rwanda. we are returning people almost every week to various countries around

world. we do that through scheduled flights. we charter flights . so we're scheduled flights. we charter flights. so we're in a scheduled flights. we charter flights . so we're in a variety flights. so we're in a variety of discussions with several airlines , lots of different airlines, lots of different destinations. when it comes to rwanda at the moment, destinations. when it comes to rwanda at the moment , the rwanda at the moment, the delivery of rwanda , i.e, delivery of rwanda, i.e, removing to rwanda, is on pause . it's on hold whilst we are going through litigation . suella going through litigation. suella braverman now a man has pleaded not guilty . the murder of olivia not guilty. the murder of olivia pratt corbell. the nine year old was shot by a gunman who chased a convicted burglar into her home in liverpool in august. olivia's family was liverpool crown court when thomas cashman via video link. some of them were seen shaking their heads as pleas were entered . the high pleas were entered. the high court has ruled the government's post—brexit settlement scheme would demand eu citizens reapply for the right to live . work in for the right to live. work in the uk is unlawful . the

the uk is unlawful. the independent monitoring authority, a body set up to oversee rights, argued britain is breaching its withdrawal agreement with the eu . home agreement with the eu. home office minister simon murray says the government intends to appeal the ruling that's set you up to date on gb news mornings as it happens. back now to . patrick okay. welcome back, everybody. now back to our top story. today is the battle between the and nhs staff rumbles on this afternoon. unions have reacted to comments by the health secretary . thousands of strong secretary. thousands of strong communist workers in this bitter dispute over and conditions. so barclay says the unions made and i'm quoting now , a conscious i'm quoting now, a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients. that's an upping of the rhetoric. but people seem to be following the advice to only contact emergency services

strictly necessary. so the number of people phoning 99 appears to have dropped in some parts of england. i've got to be honest here, my initial reaction to that was actually one of concern, which that, know, concern, which that, you know, all or all the now elderly or vulnerable people there were vulnerable people out there were thinking, i don't want to burden them, won't them. and them, so i won't them. and actually, dying in their actually, they're dying in their own that's i say own homes. but that's why i say call swanwick is a paramedic call it. swanwick is a paramedic for east midlands ambulance service. to service. he's been speaking to us picket line in us at a picket line in nottingham. we're losing many nottingham. we're losing so many staff can't staff because they just can't physically afford to stay the physically afford to stay in the job. had friends leave this job. i've had friends leave this year alone that gone be year alone that have gone be delivery somewhere else delivery drivers somewhere else because they said they can get more and better with it more money and better with it and they just can't keep providing for their families with it . and as a result, that's with it. and as a result, that's what comes down to. it's the money that people need to live. and what we've had to and that's what we've had to stop today because can't keep going this. can't keep going like this. we can't keep providing safe service for providing a safe service for people . if everyone's leaving, people. if everyone's leaving, then . in the job, then they can't. in the job, we're going live emergencies we're going to live emergencies and. having the radio broadcasts for uncovered, category one

call. so it's threatening conditions followed by just a deafening silence but no one's able to show up and go, i'm free. send me to it. i'll help. and it's just it's soul destroying to know that people are out there begging for help and we just physically have no staff to go because people can't afford to stay in the job. and if need numbers an ambulance will sent. we've there's a will be sent. we've there's a safe level staffing put in safe level of staffing put in stay worked with the to stay we've worked with the to make sure that we're understaffed that people stay away able to go to those life threatening where possible . okay threatening where possible. okay well that would is very much split the viewership here even the opinion polls appear to overwhelmingly support the strikes around 63% of the public, according yougov public, according to a yougov poll apparently in favour of poll are apparently in favour of these strikes on michael's been on he says i am not comfortable strikes by support these ones. however cathy for example says they ashamed of they should be ashamed of themselves. people are dying strikes circumstances strikes under any circumstances for paramedics. so that's kind of where at a country of where at as a country actually. i think strike action comes backdrop extreme

comes with a backdrop of extreme pressure the nhs and the pressure on the nhs and the ambulance services and this afternoon we are hearing almost all of the ambulance presenting are at such a level of disruption the environment might even be considered safe and patients might face harm . yeah, patients might face harm. yeah, shock, horror. you go on strike and patients face harm. i mean, yet fine. but then we get the majority declared so—called critical incidents with many trusts stating they were facing huge pressure even before strike. so a critical apparently is defined by the as any localised where the level of disruption results in the organisation or permanently losing its ability to deliver critical services . unable to critical services. unable to deliver critical services critical incidents have been at yorkshire ambulance service north—east ambulance service, south—east coast service, east england ambulance service, south central ambulance service, south ambulance service. north west ambulance service. north west ambulance . i think

ambulance service. north west ambulance. i think i'll ambulance service. north west ambulance . i think i'll never go ambulance. i think i'll never go got was quite enough actually . got was quite enough actually. i'm glad that's it. but yougov that was found that despite now it's crumbling as patient care and all of this stuff but most people are backing it. and here are some more figures because 63% of people back ambulance workers on strike today with nurses who walked out yesterday and days that and a few days before that having even support . 65% of having even more support. 65% of people supporting that cause. what is fascinating is when you look down the list at the rail strike as they have dropped below which is below the 50% mark which is probably lynch today to go probably why lynch today to go and rather with some and meet up rather with some train providers try to barter they're under the right they're a bit under the right over we me welcome over there we go let me welcome gb news viewers, miranda richardson, north hampton, richardson, who's north hampton, and mcneil in grimsby. both and alan mcneil in grimsby. both of welcome . welcome. and of you welcome. welcome. and miranda, i will start with you. who do you blame for these drugs? who would you blame if people suddenly died as a result of it wouldn't be the ambulance service. i know that much. my father was a paramedic for over

25 years . i've seen first hand 25 years. i've seen first hand what that does to a family. 25 years. i've seen first hand what that does to a family . they what that does to a family. they are working under such horrendous condition are really tough conditions these days. people do this because it's a vocation . that's why they become vocation. that's why they become paramedics that's why they become technicians. that's what they want to do fundamentally . they want to do fundamentally. they want to save and look after people . well, then put in people. well, then put in a position you can't even look after family at home because money you bring in can't help them survive . you have to look them survive. you have to look at what works for you and your and your networks around . so and your networks around. so that's why if they are leaving the service, it's a really tough they don't just decide it's not just a job you know, when people say, oh, you know , well, it say, oh, you know, well, it doesn't matter that they're getting so much money for turning out to an rtc or a suicide. that's their job. yes, it is. i would be in really worse position if those didn't choose to want to become paramedics and technicians . paramedics and technicians. that's one of the first things we have to think of . so i start

we have to think of. so i start oven we have to think of. so i start over. i'll come back to under. i'll come back to you. good. good points. alan, your views on this . i good points. alan, your views on this. i know good points. alan, your views on this . i know the money issue good points. alan, your views on this. i know the money issue is a tough one because we've got the inflation, etc. look, i'm heanng the inflation, etc. look, i'm hearing that the average is about four it very much about four grand. it very much depends report you depends which which report you read comes to the read when it comes to the average salary. it's hard to tell because they've got such a sliding scale. i did speak to paramedic alan. he paramedic earlier on alan. he said was quite newly said that he was quite newly qualified he didn't think he qualified it he didn't think he was much financially was struggling much financially do actually do you think that actually should consideration when should be a consideration when it public . it comes to patient and public. health good afternoon patrick murray christmas to you it's quite a hard one because they have quite a difficult job and the ambulance drivers and the paramedics aren't particularly well paid . they are if they've well paid. they are if they've beenin well paid. they are if they've been in the in the employment for a while but, it's not a great wage. so i don't a problem with them asking more money which the government i believe has offered them . i'm not

has offered them. i'm not exactly sure what kind of settlement that they actually as at the 20% that the nurses want is it 10. i haven't really heard information so it's quite difficult say yeah well this is it. and i just come back miranda on that i did have 999 call handler on yesterday and i trying to ask up quite straightforwardly really which was what money on now i got that's a bit of a personal question but what was the pay offer that was offered. she said it was around the 4% and four and a half % mark. i said, well, and a half% mark. i said, well, do you want? and she said do you want? and she just said well, i'm to leave it up well, i'm going to leave it up to the unions. and i thought, well, hang on a minute. if unions are militant or unions are a bit militant or politically motivated, then actually undermines the actually that undermines the argument, really? argument, doesn't it really? i mean do a little bit mean we do seem a little bit unable to find what these striking want . striking workers actually want. they well, a living they just go, well, a living wage, living well, would wage, a living well, some would say they're on a living say they're already on a living wage. views, miranda? yeah, wage. your views, miranda? yeah, you know, again, it's not that

of aspect of what do they want ? of aspect of what do they want? what if they narrowed it down to the unions are there for a reason like them or not, militant or not, they are there to try and help a collective. there are hundreds of thousands , paramedics and technicians in the country. you know, you have to kind of try get some of to kind of try and get some of central force. we have to deal and look after them and protect and look after them and protect and protect what what they're trying to do and achieve. so you you know, it is tough sometimes the unions, it's like anything they're going to come in wanting like a like heavy duty on. that way you end up battering down to a number that suits all, you know, and actually for individuals to say, you know , individuals to say, you know, that my union deal with that for me, that's the only way to go . me, that's the only way to go. okay, alan and to steve barclay, the health secretary, has been quite strong today, actually saying the unions are deliberately targeting the patient , trying to cause i'm patient, trying to cause i'm paraphrasing here but as much harm as possible, rarely you think there is any truth in

that, because that's a bit grim. if it is true . well, i've heard if it is true. well, i've heard of both sides of the story. i heard union side, but the government side and again it's extremely hard to know i wouldn't support them striking . wouldn't support them striking. i don't think they should be striking because of the role that they play in society . i that they play in society. i would support them looking for more money because i don't think that their particular really well paid of who made it to the is the very fact they are striking will put people at risk and no getting away from that if they can't respond to different levels of calls , some people levels of calls, some people will be put at risk. perhaps some people will die . and that's some people will die. and that's just going to be fact. so i believe unions, because the unions should be round the table talking to the government about where they want to be, whereas the unions very keen just to go

on strike. well, the government have offered to assist. we're not taking that. so we're going on strike and that seems to be instantaneous . yeah. i suppose instantaneous. yeah. i suppose when comes down to that pay issue, miranda, a lot of people are very concerned. it doesn't matter how much money. a lot of the nhs it never seems to end up where it needs to be and we don't seem to end up getting too much bang for our buck. some people say that i'm. just people would say that i'm. just going you both the same going to ask you both the same question, but i'll start with you, miranda. are concerned you, miranda. are you concerned about today or relatives about getting today or relatives getting than getting ill today more than you would normally? at all. would be normally? not at all. and the main reasons they and one of the main reasons they at the moment, if you have an incident you for an incident and you ring for an ambulance, not much ambulance, does not much pressure the very first question is the patient breathing that's the first question that is the patient breathing and they are conscious, you know, and so we've incidents where people now are waiting seven, 12 hours for an ambulance as it is, areas are under so much pressure. that's almost a strike. yeah, they're

saying that they're already missing. missing waiting times arrival and they start outside . arrival and they start outside. the enemies are so full, they're sat outside as mobile with people in the back of ambulance it's because we can't deal with it's because we can't deal with it then they were saying today that the numbers are down. i'm sorry. can you just quickly say in the numbers down and it's less because people less that's because people are going can't treat it like an going oh can't treat it like an nhs you know, dropping service today ring tomorrow sign today so i'll ring tomorrow sign worried about that. i am worried about miranda. i tell you what alan, two very, very quickly, very quickly on this. i will actually ask you a slightly different because i different one because i think that's point miranda that's a cracking point miranda has heanng has made that. we're hearing reports that 999 calls are down. my reports that 999 calls are down. my first reaction my concern first reaction to that really hope there's that was i really hope there's not a load poor ladies not a load of poor old ladies and men there who are and men out there who are actually ill. you think? you know, of lovely know, there's a lot of lovely members our elderly members of our elderly community. they go, oh, community. do they go, oh, i don't want i wouldn't want to don't want to i wouldn't want to want distress. and for want to distress. and that for me a concern. and how do you me is a concern. and how do you think about do you suspect think about that? do you suspect actually are deliberately actually people are deliberately not they

not calling now and maybe they need to or there's a definite possibility that could happen ? possibility that could happen? but i also would agree with , but i also would agree with, miranda who said that lots of people call nine nine for absolutely no reason whatsoever . i've always been saying that if need to go to a hospital and you can make your way to a hospital, you should do so. but it is possible that there will be people who would be concerned thinking, well, there's no point calling an ambulance because i'm not going get one. i mean, it's very sale now and. both of you, thank you very much. i'll just leave you with this out to you. and i think this is a slightly thing to say, but maybe this is some of the highlights, which is perhaps a public campaign about please, the love of god just in normal life, not they're on drugs, do think drugs, really do think twice about you the about whether you need the ambulance. you know, there are a lot people out there who lot of people out there who i think abuse the nhs and think do use abuse the nhs and that to stop maybe that's that needs to stop maybe that's the cutting back on stuff the way cutting back on stuff but anyway there we go that's a very as to traipse

very as a minefield to traipse all the way through but doing it well thank you very much gb news as miranda is a north as miranda richardson is a north island mcneely, island instead and alan mcneely, who's in grimsby right, we're going now. what are going to go back now. what are the of, the viewers we've the views of, the viewers we've heard on a picket. heard from someone on a picket. we're to go to a political we're going to go to a political it's a darren mccaffrey now is in is get the in westminster is to get the political on this darren. political angle on this darren. look obviously what look i obviously want know what the latest from steve barclay is, can ask i haven't heard is, but can ask i haven't heard too much labour. are they too much from labour. are they getting involved at all. well i mean they've got a pretty stage position really position that hasn't really changed all the they've all frankly not really mean frankly though not really mean mpps broken up must be said mpps have broken up must be said for christmas there's for the christmas there's not many in many politicians around here in westminster fact i've just been into parliament and i counted the number of m.p.s i saw my hands , but labour , labour and hands, but labour, labour and all this also suggesting essentially that what they want to do is see the government get around the negotiating. now, interestingly, they actually agree with the government . it is agree with the government. it is not possible to give the unions the pay rises that many of them are what they want are looking for what they want to see from the government is an

attempt at least to try and get attempt at least to try and get a negotiated settlement . the a negotiated settlement. the government's point of view on all that that there all of that is this that there is an independent body, it is already set at the pay settlements for next year. and thatis settlements for next year. and that is something that the unions themselves should agree to. and they can look into the future about whether things may need not unions. need to change, not the unions. of they want to see. i of course, they want to see. i a different approach to this they want to see pay very much on the table. their argument repeatedly has been that that pay body report into how much they should get paid was set before . we saw get paid was set before. we saw inflation hit double digits is not reflective of the current economic environment in terms of where the government though are today. they're not engaging with the unions in any formal talks. what have been doing, though, is meeting here at westminster to talk about contingency plans . talk about contingency plans. saw meeting in whitehall saw a cobra meeting in whitehall a little earlier in which a little bit earlier in which ministers from across government departments talked about how they could mitigate some of the consequence. strikes consequence. most of the strikes with the paramedics, we've seen

some the armed forces in in some of the armed forces in in that we may well see it again, actually when we see strike action by border force guards this weekend. but what we have seen is this war of words. you write , the government and the write, the government and the steve barclay, the secretary, really upping the ante in the last 24 hours in which he said that the unions are taking a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients at the worst possible time , i.e. ahead of possible time, i.e. ahead of christmas at a time which flu in covid remain a very, very serious threat . the national serious threat. the national health service unions very very angry about that. they blame called it sorry, patrick, a belated lie that the unions have done this. and if the two sides seem further apart than at any stage in this process and there is no sign these strikes are going to come to an end any time soon, if anything, it looks almost certain we'll get more strike dates into . the new year. strike dates into. the new year. yeah, indeed. no wonder what those opinion polls are going to do if those strikes do continue

down. and thank you very much . down. and thank you very much. who's westminster close? are who's in westminster close? are you this? you getting in touch on this? i'm asking, do you think is i'm asking, who do you think is at if suddenly die at fault if people suddenly die as a result of the strike down at the moment, the inbox any way, which is no representation of yougov poll, it of the latest yougov poll, it must said, is 63% of whom are must be said, is 63% of whom are back favour of ambulance back in favour of ambulance strikes people like ray. you say, on minute, this is say, hang on a minute, this is actually fault of the unions actually the fault of the unions they've strike, not they've called the strike, not they've called the strike, not the it's very the government. it's very silly. the is failure. your views the nhs is a failure. your views coming by the way, terms of coming in, by the way, terms of pay, coming in, by the way, terms of pay, difficult to pay, it's very difficult to actually exact facts and actually the exact facts and figures when it comes to it, but roughly average 28 and roughly on average 28 and £34,000 from the research i can do here online for do here online is for a paramedic, an nhs call handlers between 21 an d £25,000 have between 21 and £25,000 have apparently been offered a 4% pay rise. what do you make of that do you think that is enough money? is that a living wage? do you not actually you think that not actually warrants going on warrants essentially going on strike and potentially leaving people having a stroke, people who are having a stroke, not care? views up not getting care? your views up that controversial plans to process some migrants offshore in cruise could be back on the

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welcome back, everybody. now the home secretary has confirmed the government is actively considering the use of cruise ships. so accommodate asylum seekers giving . evidence to the seekers giving. evidence to the lords, justice and home committee suella braverman confirmed as well as disuse houday confirmed as well as disuse holiday parks and military sites . use of vessels is also being the home secretary defended . the the home secretary defended. the use of private contractors to find asylum seeker accommodation over allegations that they are making an wage of cash. march one joins me in the studio right . mark, let's start with the cruise ships. people have been calling this for a very long time. offshore processing , time. offshore processing, people coming across the

channel. well what i suppose barely set foot in the. yeah. i mean many have seen this as a potential deterrent because if people are determined to reach uk soil , they don't get to uk uk soil, they don't get to uk soil. they're effectively processed offshore then that could in the eyes of . those who could in the eyes of. those who support the cruise ship option act as a deterrent . well, act as a deterrent. well, although people had mentioned cruise ships for some time, the british government has never said it was actively considering that as an option. but australia government has now said that in evidence she has given to this home affairs committee in the lords saying that as well as considering the likes of former houday considering the likes of former holiday parks , a student holiday parks, a student accommodation military sites, then cruise ships are also a potential option . this is what potential option. this is what she told the committee. as you heard from the pm, we will bring forward a range of alternatives and they will include . disused and they will include. disused

houday and they will include. disused holiday parks . former student holiday parks. former student halls are sites. i should say we are looking at those sites. i wouldn't say anything's confirmed yet but we need to bnng confirmed yet but we need to bring forward thousands of places and you when about when you talk about vessels. i would just say and all i can say, because we are in discussions with a wide variety of providers that everything is still on the table . well, that's fascinating table. well, that's fascinating because i think this would tie into a multiple pronged approach when it comes migrant crisis, people saying, well, the idea of being part of flying to rwanda might not act as that much of a deterrent on own in isolation if you then couple that with the fact that you might be processed on cruise ship on some kind of cruise ship offshore that never set foot offshore so that never set foot in it all starting in the uk is it all starting come together the government come together for the government . wouldn't go that . we haven't . i wouldn't go that. we haven't had a single flight to call for a rwanda as yet. of we've got the high court now seeing that it's lawful and that's a step . it's lawful and that's a step. but that's going to be to an appeal.

but that's going to be to an appeal . so it but that's going to be to an appeal. so it could be tied up in more legal wrangling for some considerable time. will government have the backbone to get some people on a flight to and in the interim ? there's no and in the interim? there's no sign that that's happening . sign that that's happening. rishi sunak when he was pushed on this wouldn't commit to there being any flights taking off christmas. no he mentioned but they're not stopping the thing that i think a lot of people have been up in arms about for a very, very long time. i am desperately not looking forward to the optics of military barracks being used disused military barracks being used whilst we have homeless military veterans as well. i mean i think that will go down like a cup of cold sex with the vast majority of the british public, certainly the patriotic public the patriotic british public anyway. government will anyway. but the government will need a backbone with need a backbone to deal with people saying we'll be people saying why we'll be against human against people with human rights to ship, even if to put on a cruise ship, even if those cruise ships, the ones the normal people pay to on. normal people will pay to on. well, of course. what you get when there is a policy of trying to together as to put many people together as possible a centre or , you

possible in a centre or, you know, a former military base like raaf lynton on news up in yorkshire is understandable . the yorkshire is understandable. the concern in the community, if it's a small community, a village like lynton on news , village like lynton on news, which was going to see its popular mission expand from 500 to about 2500 of them being young male asylum seekers, with village shop. that's is bonkers. that's one element of concern . that's one element of concern. but then on the other side, you've got all of those represent ing and looking after the interests of asylum seekers who claim that these sites are not suitable for asylum seekers and that they're living in effectively squalid conditions, which is rising, isn't it? because we would have paratroops and now we would have members of the military and we have paying customers in the case of cruise ships and that. but of course, maybe not good enough for some people . well, i would suggested people. well, i would suggested that probably consider actually less squalid than the makeshift

encampments that they were in around calais and dunkirk, some them for months at a time. yet mark, thank you very much as ever might why there are security added to bring the latest guests your ears and all is not deceiving you. we may actually be about to have cruise ships, presumably channel ships, presumably in the channel anyway . these people to be anyway for. these people to be processed offshore . your processed offshore. your thoughts of but thoughts and all of that. but coming reforms are coming up, gender reforms are likely to pass in hollyrood today as if we are not enough madness. if does. and 15 year old children will be able to begin process of changing their gender . trans laws gender under smp. trans laws that it lot easier that will make it a lot easier them to do so. it would also mean addition by way mean well in addition by way that people who are currently undergoing trial for things like rape could then claim to be and be put in women's prisons. i mean, obviously nothing could possibly wrong here. now, as possibly go wrong here. now, as the latest headlines . patrick, the latest headlines. patrick, thank you. hello you. the top

story this hour, ambulance unions have reacted angrily after government accused them of making conscious choice to patients by going out on strike. meanwhile we want to watch to be that is, we want to weigh . well, that is, we want to weigh. well, the health secretary, steve barclay , unions are refusing to barclay, unions are refusing to with the government at a national level on how they cover emergencies during strike action. unite sharon graham says the comments are a blatant lie and an embarrassed moment for him and the government. the gmb has called the comments insulting the unison. general secretary christine macintyre says mr. barclay doesn't want to negotiate . we sit down in a negotiate. we sit down in a room, you have a bit of give and take and. both sides find nothing from him or from this government. all saying to me is, we can't negotiate. bp and where that leave us. one of the reasons the ambulance service, the nhs in a dire state is the nhs in such a dire state is because they haven't invested in the workforce. so people leave those are left are under

those who are left are under increasing pressure. these people don't get meal breaks . people don't get meal breaks. they a deal if they work they how big a deal if they work excessive overtime because this the way the service can run the only way the service can run . now a man who admitted murdering his pregnant and three children in derbyshire will spend the rest of his life in jail. damien bendall was given a whole life order for killing terry harris . her children, terry harris. her children, lacey and john bennett and lacey's friend connie gent with a clawhammer in killamarsh in september year. the 32 year old also pleaded to raping one of the children . the home secretary the children. the home secretary suella braverman says the government is actively considering the use of cruise ships to house asylum seekers. suella braverman says the vessels with disused holiday parks and former student halls among options being looked at to help reduce the reliance on hotels. told the lords, justice and home affairs committee hotels are an unacceptable cost to the taxpayer and alternative

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welcome back, everybody . right welcome back, everybody. right now, the scottish parliament has been debating whether children as young as 16 should be able to change legal gender. this afternoon , msps considering afternoon, msps are considering whether to remove certain hurdles to changing gender, which is specified in the 2004 gender recognition act. a lot to unpack here. let's try and do it if the bill is passed. those to change that designation gender will no longer need a doctor's diagnosis of gender dysphoria so they can just date themselves, decide themselves . they'll also decide themselves. they'll also need to have lived in their

chosen gender forjust need to have lived in their chosen gender for just three months. that's down from two years. trans rights activist s have been outside hollyrood throughout the day urging msps to back the new agenda reform bill. earlier transgender rights activist beth douglas explained why the bill is so important to her. bill does is it allows trans people to do two things allows us to our birth certificate . no there's two certificate. no there's two reasons why you might want to do thatis reasons why you might want to do that is to make that your marriage certificate is in the right gender. so when you have your speciality is to make sure that while your ceremony going on that you're not misgendered on that you're not misgendered on your day, which i think on your big day, which i think is a very low ask. the other one, which i'm this is more personal to me and this is why i want a grc and so that eventually for all unfortunately we all pass away. we have the limited time on this earth and there will be a day for everyone where a death certificate gets issued. when that issued. you know, when that happens like happens for me, i would like that death certificate be

that death certificate to be true i lived life. true to how i lived my life. i would like it to be in the right gendenl would like it to be in the right gender. i would to see the correct information on it. because i would like to rest in peace and with little. and peace and die with a little. and that's grc means to me. that's why grc means to me. that's what hey, that's why i want one. right. well, joining me is former snp councillor austin sheridan. austin i've got to ask you, it seems to me that the snp having our long hours and hours and hours long debates on this, they've got to watch this through as a matter of urgency. why do they think this is such an urgent. urgency. why do they think this is such an urgent . well, the is such an urgent. well, the reason that it's taken so long ago through parliament is because the opposition parties in particular the conservative party of up and amendments and trade, about 150 amendments are fighting to debate it. and that's thanks to the tories gentleman. they've been debating as long it has been. if it hadnt as long it has been. if it hadn't been for them. but the reason that is important to

first because hasn't rushed by any of the imagination. this has been something that's been going through the scottish parliament for six years. it's something that has heavily consulted upon to make sure that we do get the legislation right, because as important personally that's in the legislation that , we need to the legislation that, we need to make sure that we get it right because as a very sensitive area and i've got to be respectful of all people and all sides of the debate why is it that when you look at the % of people who this look at the% of people who this would fact write, which is a fraction of a percentage of people who are in the trans community, some would argue that they're now are being priority sites over the rights of women to have their own space. is this only taking place because it's fashionable to be pro . fashionable to be pro. absolutely. i mean , for example, absolutely. i mean, for example, when equal marriage was passed scotland back in 2014 as a gay man, i suppose i'm a fraction of society. if maybe you're a lot

more parliament, your national was sorry sorry there is a massive difference out of them. there is a massive difference right because if now as it stands right, if me is a man, if i was a rapist, i could identify as a woman and live as a woman a couple of months and be designated as a woman and into a woman's prison. and that is very different from same sex marriage , right? so, first of all, i think that when women are looking at people that commit sex and that's just something that i must debate that i'm particularly transmission female have been i've been a particular target in this debate by critics i when people going to commit sex offences they change their gender to do so and that's the number one thing that i'm never saying as well is that anyone has the right, right to and to live and the gender that the rush i need to there is no age restrictions on that and anyone can choose to do so. what let's

legislate in those areas allows people to change their gender on the bus something about right no and few rent to your bank even and a few rent to your bank even on passport and you can on your passport and you can have name changed those have your name changed those documents without having a gender recognition that is enough to be clear about what the legislation actually because as you know a lot of things be muddied about access women's spaces and then this legislation does not impede on the equality act of 2010, which protects single sex spaces and organisations for example, and traces . up to them to organisations for example, and traces. up to them to make organisations for example, and traces . up to them to make the traces. up to them to make the decision about who would be allowed in that space and wouldn't be. so those things are, and it's quite right that they are. when were you seeing now increasing evidence to suggest that people who do transition during childhood , in transition during childhood, in their more formative years , their more formative years, sometimes that's down to the fact a contributory factor is to do with things like mental health problems that are undergoing at that particular

time. is very prevalent time. autism is very prevalent in that decision that they can come to regret later down the line. why you so concerned about making it easier them to make a decision they may well live to regret ? well certainly don't regret? well certainly don't want to go up meeting with people. and that's exactly what the current legislation makes things very difficult. it means that people can be mistaken for . and for example, when it does come management, it does call me deaf. i mean, i don't see why we would want to go away to make life difficult and terms those who transition and then regret. i'm i'm sure there are some people but very very very rarely do we come across cases to be come across cases are do you believe that you could be a woman ? well, i feel like woman? well, i feel like a woman. i don't want to be comfortable being a man . what comfortable being a man. what doesit comfortable being a man. what

does it mean to feel like a woman ? i don't know, because i'm woman? i don't know, because i'm a woman. i mean, i feel like a man. so i mean, if somebody says to me, you know what? what's it like? be trans that i could that possibly i'm so not because of because i'm not trying to solve your problem be to not question that what somebody has gone through what you do is you do what what i would say as i may not understand it's like to feel that way and that certainly they have my full support just which is a bit like asking a heterosexual what's it like to be gay i know what it's like to be gay i know what it's like to be gay i know what it's like to be gay they wouldn't but i certainly i think keep i think it's i think a bit more difficult to jump on the right. i think more down to the root thing there of thinking that someone who is biologically man male could ever really have been born into the wrong body . i born into the wrong body. i mean, do you honestly think that babies are sometimes born and

they have just got the wrong genocidal genocidal . yeah i mean genocidal genocidal. yeah i mean i know trans and they believe that their bodies that they were born into were not the ones that should have had . yeah, i should have had. yeah, i certainly believe that that can be the case and these and anyone who's and who's going a transition. you know i will support them 100. i mean why nine interested there are rumours that nicholas sturgeon is to just rush this through while in particular one of her opponents away on maternity leave. is there any truth to that? no as i say, that is a big concern. oh, oh, oh. well, he's gone. so oh, well, that was, of course that councillor, the snp councillor for councillor austin sheridan. no your views will be very, very important on this. i make sure that you get those and to me, well we're going to move on now with. the strike season now in full flow. the government still to be holding firm still seems to be holding firm on numbers as pay

on nurses numbers as workers pay demands. they see earnings demands. they don't see earnings asking for above inflation , asking for 5% above inflation, but with no resolution is in sight. what is government offered in an attempt to break the deadlock yesterday i to an ambulance call taker who is striking today i asked her what would see as an acceptable pay rise . just remind ourselves of rise. just remind ourselves of what she . it's not my position what she. it's not my position to. say that that's for the trade unions to discuss. to. say that that's for the trade unions to discuss . yeah. trade unions to discuss. yeah. well then you could argue. well it's our job to just negotiate. and even if you're going on strike , it means that you won't strike, it means that you won't be taking a call tomorrow if i fell down the stairs or my grandma ill, for example, grandma got ill, for example, and ambulance. and desperately an ambulance. and you won't and let's be honest, you won't be there. and it is pay. so what do you want to be paid? what could stop you from going off you can't just palm this on you can't just palm this off on the unions. you must have the trade unions. you must have a . i don't know how long's a view. i don't know how long's a view. i don't know how long's a piece of straight islanders after a fair deal and being offered a 4% is not a deal. okay, so what to some in between

what, 4% and what if we said 6% without do i don't know isn't place to make that decision so it's up them to come up with a fair deal for us what we're all afterwards right . i fair deal for us what we're all afterwards right. i think i think a lot of people would think a lot of people would think if you were making the decision to go on strike , that decision to go on strike, that maybe you should have a figure in mind . i'm maybe you should have a figure in mind. i'm sure that the leaders i'm sure that they will come up with some negotiations, that what we want them want that what we want them they want them to come to the table to make a fair negotiation. we've been offered a fair been offered is not a fair negotiation, rise, negotiation, not for a pay rise, not for the work that's being done.the not for the work that's being done. the extra structure that sort being put us we sort of demands being put us we warrant rise that fair warrant a pay rise that is fair and just the line that we and just with the line that we work, that's all work, that we do, that's all we're asking we're not asking for the world which is asking for the world which is asking for okay well, i mean, for fair pay. okay well, i mean, look, i can't get around the fact that is that i'm just called handler who not tell us what she's being paid at the minute. not us what minute. will not tell us what pay minute. will not tell us what pay rise she had been offered. said she didn't know.

said she didn't really know. also what also didn't tell us what pay rise she wanted, but was certain that to go strike . that she had to go on strike. that would go anyway. so has been offered to striking workers on affordable for us, on it, even affordable for us, the vicky price is the the taxpayer vicky price is the chief economic adviser at the centre economic business centre for economic and business research. vicky, you very research. vicky, thank you very much now not an economist much. now i am not an economist but i want to know, is it affordable give striking healthcare workers what they actually want. can we afford do that ? oh, we probably can. if we that? oh, we probably can. if we wanted in the sense that you can make up money from somewhere else. you can raise taxes if you think that it's a fair increase thatis think that it's a fair increase that is being asked for by ambulance workers and the. you can actually just borrow more possibly from from the market. so you can you can do it and the question is whether you want and what the implications of doing one of those three things might be for the economy as whole. okay. talk to me about okay. well, talk to me about that so let's just say that then. so let's just say that then. so let's just say that decide to that, we that we decide to do that, we decide to give nurses is a 19% pay

decide to give nurses is a 19% pay rise. what we settle is somewhere around 50. right. we settle somewhere around 50% something if ambulance something similar if ambulance workers call handlers and all about jobs. right. what would the implications be ? our economy the implications be? our economy that we've borrowed the money to do that increase taxes , to do do that increase taxes, to do that, what would the implication be? well, if we borrowed or increase taxes, those are two different things, by the way. yes if we borrowed. but obviously, we're going to have to borrow at interest rates, which considered higher which are considered be higher now were before. so now than they were before. so that's add whatever it that's going add to whatever it is borrowing. if is that we're borrowing. if remember paying public remember that just paying public sector costs about sector workers costs us about hundred and billion a year, hundred and 23 billion a year, which quite of money. which is quite a lot of money. but course it's, a big but of course it's, a big, big service. so we're talking much more widely than just the national service to four. seven includes those people in the sector . if give them , sector. so if you give them, say, 10% or 15% increase, then you add to that bill. but of course, the people who will get that money. i'm going to go out and spend some of that so they'll pay income tax as well. and when they spend , they'll pay

and when they spend, they'll pay vat. so you do collect quite a lot of money from that and there is a calculation by the us. for fiscal studies that said if account for the fact that in a number of cases like for example, nurses, we had already given them a certain increase the . and you have already the summer. and you have already said that doctors sorry , said that doctors sorry, teachers in particular, other social workers could get some extra payment as well , which was extra payment as well, which was already allowed for in the pubuc already allowed for in the public spending review that took place. then the increase that you're isn't anything like as big as had been estimated originally the extra costs and you can in fact when you sit through the fact that you're going to be getting more money from income tax and so on and there'll be more activity in the economy. you can reduce that to perhaps billion pounds extra which given how much we spend you recover it is not very much so. now also the ways in which you're going to approach it you can tax of non—dom as they've been suggested you can increase

windfall taxes widen them a little bit just from the energy sector to other sectors as well. so there was a will to do it. you could do it. and frankly, the increase in pay that you've been giving is going to be hugely inflationary because. certainly public sector , certainly in the public sector, you particularly in the you know, particularly in the national , you national health service, you can't prices at can't increase your prices at the day. it's not the end the day. so it's not inflation from that point of view. it won't be reflected immediately in what you pass on to consumers. well, this is a line that rishi sunak's saying, which is that it would lead to higher inflation. you'll say, no, not true. well, it will no, it's not true. well, it will reduce. certain amount of inflation without any doubt because a lot of that money will because a lot of that money will be spent. and if you give a lot, for example, to the aid workers, then what's going to happen that inevitably are inevitably the companies are going raise their going to have to raise their pnces going to have to raise their prices for, you know, rail fares and other costs that are associated with it. so that would be inflationary . and would be inflationary. and because you're spending it, would be inflationary. and because you're spending it , then because you're spending it, then obviously you're asking for business that you business services that you wouldn't asked before . wouldn't have asked for before. and full well the bank

and we know full well the bank of england now is trying to reduce that type of spending by raising interest rates. so trying growth in raising interest rates. so tryi|economy growth in raising interest rates. so tryi|economy so growth in raising interest rates. so tryi|economy so whatirowth in raising interest rates. so tryi|economy so what you're n raising interest rates. so tryi|economy so what you're doing the economy so what you're doing is encouraging of is you're encouraging more of that, it is limited. so not that, but it is limited. so not the inflationary the full blown inflationary impact that you worry about. if there serious price there was a serious wage price spiral , it there was a serious wage price spiral, it would be a there was a serious wage price spiral , it would be a little there was a serious wage price spiral, it would be a little bit milder than that. okay. well, interesting . i can't try to work interesting. i can't try to work out whether that's or what out whether that's or not what you to me then most you said to me then as most things that the vicky pryce said, the chief economic adviser at centre of economic and at the centre of economic and business research lady business research has a lady with a the size of with a brain the size of a planner the vast majority of what she says straight over my head. but there you go. i'll let you your own minds about you make your own minds about that. thank you very much, vicky. now, this morning, vicky. right now, this morning, this is more of my level, i think there was a very special plane flown terminally on plane has flown terminally on life limited children from to lapland to meet the big man himself alf santa the northern ireland children to lapland charity helps those children and their loved ones make long, festive memories . and our festive memories. and our northern ireland reporter ,

northern ireland reporter, dougie beattie went along for the ride. it's got a lot blood did you in lapland . hi i'm did you in lapland. hi i'm patrick i am i swapped stormont for lapland. what a good swap that is. although my g it is optional lately freezing. but lapland is a place and this charity is such a good charity . charity is such a good charity. i've been involved with it for a few years and it is about making memories for. few years and it is about making memories for . these children and memories for. these children and we have went for santa. i mean , we have went for santa. i mean, at the start of the morning, as you say, we got on a plane at a belfast, a private chartered plane. came in to the airport plane. we came in to the airport here. we've been skids. randy here. we've been on skids. randy was huskies going across the west land of finland, this highly cold, barren place, if you like. there's a lot of trees and the other side was quite good, but there's only 2 hours of daylight here and when i got here, i went into the side of a mountain. this mountain was as a way, way about 200 feet down into the mountain. and there there i met santa. what

there i met with santa. what interview? that was pinnacle in my career, to be honest. the real santa meeting, i'm down in there and asked him. i asked him straight out, what should the people of uk , the children of uk people of uk, the children of uk and ireland be doing? and around ? here's what he had to say. it could be very good if they can go and sleep about at least up 9:00 in the evening and then if they have a fireplace so that they have a fireplace so that they should check up that they have no fire in the fireplace on christmas eve , one of our christmas eve, one of our presenters now, patrick. yeah, i would like to know of time has he been on naughty list or the nice list . tell you he can take nice list. tell you he can take it very very easy and sleep very well on the christmas night because he's on the very good list. yeah as i said, i'm on, i'm on, i'm on a very good dougie . well, i didn't even dougie. well, i didn't even bother asking him then. was on the naughty or nice list because

i mean, if you're on the good list. there's a of forgiveness there. i we will be leaving here within the next hour, heading back to belfast for a very flight home, but for a blah goodbye. flight home, but for a blah goodbye . this is far to say. oh, goodbye. this is far to say. oh, well, it might well tell us stuff, dougie beattie. i know a lot of reports, a lot long careers fund it by the way. and wasn't it nice to see santa. yes. what did he didn't tell you. is that i actually posted a tenner to say that i was on the very, very good list. right. you are with me, patrick christys. and he's loads coming in and he's loads more coming in the houn and he's loads more coming in the hour. nurses walking the next hour. nurses walking out scotland out gender in scotland international claiming international newspaper claiming that get britain is that britain get britain is institutionally racist. i will be moment moment.

yeah. welcome back, everybody . yeah. welcome back, everybody. it's 5:00. you're with me. patrick christys on gb news. and coming up, ambulance trusts across england have reportedly received fewer 999 calls as thousands staff and paramedics walk out. i wonder whether or not it's actually a good thing, though. there's not a lot of sick people out there not calling 999 because they're terrified of overburdening anyway. have anyway. health leaders have urged call an urged people call for an ambulance if they're experiencing life threatening experiencing a life threatening emergency. involved emergency. today's involved members of the unison unite and gmb unions who are calling for pay gmb unions who are calling for pay rises 5% above inflation. the is staying resolute in its opposition . such a wage opposition. such a wage increase. we will bring the latest on all of that. and should children as young as 16, 15 in some cases actually be able to legally change that genderin able to legally change that gender in scotland. they will if they stop government gets way.

you will not believe the granular when it comes to all of this by the way, because not just kids as well. people is suspected of rape can actually change their gender and probably end women's prison which end up in a women's prison which is controversial. is shocking stuff controversial. gender debated gender reforms are being debated in and rumours in this afternoon and rumours are flying around the nicholas sturgeon was it through or one of her main opponents is a while maternity leave. but we'll have to the on all to bring you the latest on all of it'll enable people who of that. it'll enable people who have lived in their chosen gender for just three months to be reassigned. let me be legally reassigned. let me know all of know your thoughts on all of this, vaiews@gbnews.uk. i want to you. yeah, there's to hear from you. yeah, there's that the fact that one. there's also, the fact that one. there's also, the fact that going to that we are going to start potentially offshore. i potentially migrants offshore. i know you are very keen know a lot of you are very keen on that. but the big today is who do you blame for these ambulance strikes? news ambulance strikes? gb news gbnews.uk. your gbnews.uk. but now it's your headunes. gbnews.uk. but now it's your headlines . patrick thank you . headlines. patrick thank you. good evening to you. woman it pass five. the top story is that ambulance unions have reacted angrily after the government

accused them of making a conscious choice to harm by going out on. meanwhile, that and we want to watch to while that and we want to know where it went. well, the health secretary, steve barclay , secretary, steve barclay, claiming unions are refusing work together with the government at a level on how paramedics will cover emergency calls . strike action. unite's calls. strike action. unite's sharon graham the health secretary's comments are a blatant lie and an embarrassment for him and the government. the gmb union called the comments insulting and unison. general secretary christine mckenzie says mr. barclay doesn't even want to discuss pay. we sit in a room, you have a bit of give and take on both sides. i'm getting nothing from him or from this government. all they're saying to me is we can't bp and where does that leave us? one of the reasons the ambulance service, the nhs is in such a dire state is because they haven't invested in the workforce. so people leave those who are left are under increasing pressure. these

people don't get meal breaks. they get off. they they hardly get the off. they work overtime because this is the only the service can run well , health secretary, for the only the service can run well, health secretary, for his part, maintains the government is trying to work construct actively with the trade unions . actively with the trade unions. clearly we will need to at the data from today to see whether exemptions that the trade unions had promised materialise . had promised materialise. they've said on the one hand they want to cause maximum disruption, but on the other hand that they don't want to cause to patients. so we've tried work constructively with trade unions, but of course , if trade unions, but of course, if we see significant patient harm, then as a government we will need to look at what he's done in terms minimum service in terms of minimum service levels . well, paramedic paul levels. well, paramedic paul says despite today's strike action, patients should feel safe and that ambulance workers are to emergencies . we have are to emergencies. we have responded to the life limb calls that have come in so as far as we're concerned , there's been no we're concerned, there's been no issue to patient care today .

issue to patient care today. what is amazing today, though, the amount of calls that we normally see coming in, we aren't seen today those calls aren't seen today those calls are significantly than what we what we normally do. and therefore, today you know, these patients will be getting better treatment than what do any other day . meanwhile, nurses treatment than what do any other day. meanwhile, nurses in scotland will announce strike action in the new year. that's after royal college of nursing members over rejected the latest pay members over rejected the latest pay deal from the scottish government. 82% voted against the offer , which ministers have the offer, which ministers have said ensures nhs staff in scotland remain the best paid workers in the well. in other news today , a man who admitted news today, a man who admitted murdering his pregnant partner and, three children in derbyshire , will spend the rest derbyshire, will spend the rest of his life in jail. damien bendall was given whole life order for killing terry . bendall was given whole life order for killing terry. her children, lacey and john paul bennett and lacey's friend connie gent with a claw hammer in killamarsh in september last

yeah in killamarsh in september last year. the prosecutor told court they were brutal, vicious and cruel attacks on a defenceless woman and young children . now woman and young children. now the home secretary says the is actively considering the use of cruise ships to house asylum seekers . suella braverman says seekers. suella braverman says the vessels along with disused houday the vessels along with disused holiday parks and former student halls are among options being looked at to help reduce the reliance on hotel . she told the reliance on hotel. she told the lords justice and home affairs committee that hotels are an unacceptable cost to the taxpayer and alternative sites are needed. the home secretary also addressed the delay in sending migrants to rwanda . we sending migrants to rwanda. we are returning people almost every week to various countries around the world. we do that through scheduled flights we charter flights so we're in a variety of discussions several airlines for lots of different destinations when it comes to

rwanda . the moment the delivery rwanda. the moment the delivery of rwanda i.e. we're moving people to rwanda is on pause it's on hold whilst we are going through litigation . a man has through litigation. a man has pleaded not guilty . the murder pleaded not guilty. the murder of olivia pratt corby , a nine of olivia pratt corby, a nine year old little girl, was shot by. a gunman who chased a convicted into her home in liverpool in august. olivia's family was at liverpool crown court when thomas cashman appeared via video link. some were seen shaking their heads as pleas were entered . and as pleas were entered. and as you've been today on gb news, the high has ruled the government's post—brexit settlement scheme, which would mean eu citizens have to reapply for the right to live and work in the uk is unlawful. for the right to live and work in the uk is unlawful . the in the uk is unlawful. the independent monitoring a body set up to oversee citizens rights argues . britain set up to oversee citizens rights argues. britain is breaching its withdrawal with the eu, but office minister

simon murray says the government intends to appeal ruling. that take you up to date on gb news mornings as it happens. back now to patrick kristof's . to patrick kristof's. well deadlock, ladies and gentlemen, between the union son the government over pay for and indeed other ambulance staff today ambulance workers have walked out on worries over emergency care remain as the grandmother a two week old baby boy , struggled to breathe during boy, struggled to breathe during a five hour wait for an ambulance. please deal with unions and the government, as she claims, lives are at risk . she claims, lives are at risk. earlier i spoke to a paramedic is not going on strike . this guy is not going on strike. this guy had just come off the back of a night shift . he came here on gb night shift. he came here on gb news and he told me exactly why he wasn't going on strike. tom

coffey told me the ambulance service a difficult state service was in a difficult state even these strikes and even before these strikes and therefore well. at a therefore care as well. at a hospital with a patient we hear the radio go off frequent and they say there's no policies to send and it's absolutely soul destroying to be sat outside hospital and not being able to help people . i've got to say, help people. i've got to say, with the strike action, well, it's far more of an issue than just pay alone. so in the mainstream media and the unions as well, which have you believe it's about pay, it's a bigger issue than it's the fact so much of our time is wasted, that outside hospitals and the hospitals and the social care system really do need to work together to improve ambulance flow. so we can get to those emergencies and help people not simply save lives. we've got to improve community services, health as well. so health prevention as well. so avoiding people go to hospital in the first place. ensuring that access to that people got quick access to gp appointments . so if somebody gp appointments. so if somebody can't through their gp, the can't get through their gp, the help will actually worse and then they will have go to then they will have to go to hospital as a result. there's

lots of things that can be done and there's easy and unfortunately there's easy answers. i hope that answers. but i pray, i hope that we sort of get over this. so we can sort of get over this. so if you are you know, i've got no doubt that anomalies will get to you.so doubt that anomalies will get to you. so on my it's my message the public good they still call not a nine if you're seriously ill but if you can't get to hospital either in a taxi or if somebody can help you , it would somebody can help you, it would be good people do that . be really good people do that. yeah, well, there you go. well, that was a paramedic whose conscience really got the better of the most part. his moral compass in us as he that he compass in us as he saw that he could not bring himself to let patients on a picket line patients today on a picket line in paramedic east in nottingham paramedic east midlands service midlands ambulance service connor say that it is connor swanwick say that it is vital that take subjects. but we got to this clip quickly just quickly a couple of quick things so one is basically you're literally about die slash our dying slash have stopped breathing everything else you'll be to get an ambulance today just have a listen to connor we're losing so many staff they

just can't physically afford to stay the job. i've had friends leave this year alone have gone to be delivery drivers work somewhere else because they said they can get more money and better hours it and they just can't keep providing for their families with it. and as a result, that's what it down to. it's the money that people need to live and that's what we've to stop because we can't keep stop today because we can't keep going like this. we can't keep providing a safe service to people if leaving, then they can't stay in the job. we're going to life threatening emergencies having radio emergencies and having radio broadcast for uncovered one call. so it's a life threatening conditions followed by just deafening silence. but one's able to show up and go , i'm able to show up and go, i'm free, send me to it, i'll help. and it's just it's soul destroying to know people are out there begging for help and we just physically have no to go because people can't afford to stay in the job. and if they numbness, an ambulance will be sent we've there's a safe level of staff in put in stay we've worked with the organisations to

make sure that not understaffed that people still able to go to those life threatening emergencies where possible . mark emergencies where possible. mark my words i will be sitting here tomorrow talking about threatening emergencies where there was ambulances able to get to scene and people have died as a result. and i am reading stories already. ap 93 waited in agony on the floor for 25 hours, and that was course before these drugs even took place. one of the ways you do a couple of bits, bobs here when it comes to the ambulance in your area where, they are on strike and where, they are on strike and where they have declared a critical it's everywhere is in a critical it's everywhere is in a critical incident at the moment basically. but the east of england , they're not striking england, they're not striking everywhere else . basically they everywhere else. basically they are. what is it, one? no. what is a category ? just in case is a category? just in case you're wondering right now, what category a life category one is a life threatening such as a threatening injuries, such as a cardiac arrest. so the heart actually. so the way that actually. so the only way that you'll ambulance to you'll get ambulance to suite today dead right today is if you're dead right and then category two heart attacks, but you're not dead yet

. strokes, sepsis , major burns, . strokes, sepsis, major burns, good. . strokes, sepsis, major burns, good . got an ambulance today. good. got an ambulance today. three, by the way this was clearly drawn up by a bloke because three includes the late stages of labour so i don't think any woman ever in the history of womanhood would ever see that as a category three emergency. but there you go. you're you're just have to you're you're just gonna have to give i'm on the floor. give birth. i'm on the floor. really? category not really? and category four. not issues diarrhoea. well issues such as diarrhoea. well to be fair. i think that's fair enough. well they'd to be enough. well they'd have to be awful, they? you have awful, wouldn't they? you have to be in a world one trench if you diary was that badly ambulance. yeah target ambulance. but yeah the target time was already time for that was already 3 hours which point you might hours by which point you might already a bit of massimo already be in a bit of a massimo and but there we go. my and one. but there we go. my point being actually do think point being is actually do think that that is good enough? do you think moral duties here have been at the i mean, been laid at the door? i mean, the i ask this is the reason why i ask this is because getting because i'm already getting reports. we broke reports. so i thought we broke this a little bit earlier this news a little bit earlier on.the this news a little bit earlier on. the people like you and your relatives are being thanked for not oh, it's great. not calling 999. oh, it's great. they we are experiencing far

they say we are experiencing far less 999 calls and we usually would thank you members, the public, helping out. public, for helping us out. right. | public, for helping us out. right. i think right. okay now. look, i think we know that some people we all know that some people call 999 four absolutely ridiculous . and i call 999 four absolutely ridiculous .and i am ridiculous reasons. and i am sure that they get a lot of rubbish that they don't need to deal my big concern deal with. but my big concern with very first thought when with my very first thought when i heard that people weren't calling because calling nine nine because i didn't overburden didn't want to overburden service frankly was elderly a lot of elderly people don't like to be a burden at the best of times alone when they're reading headunes times alone when they're reading headlines and saying things and watching news broadcast like this strikes, this about, ambulance strikes, ambulance going on ambulance drivers going on strike call handlers going on strike as call handlers going on and thinking, well, actually and the thinking, well, actually don't to be a burden. well, don't want to be a burden. well, that's a real real shame and lots of you have been getting in touch is touch because the government is playing here and. playing a blame game here and. the playing a blame the unions are playing a blame game. precisely we game. that's precisely why we are are. okay so the are where we are. okay so the government well, we government is saying, well, we have something. it have offered them something. it was region of around 4. was in the region of around 4. the saying we want 5% the unions are saying we want 5% above inflation. nice above inflation. so quite nice realistically as opposed as around a 16% pay rise. bear in mind they been mind that they have been a couple of pay rises in two

couple of pay rises in last two years as well one of around three and half, one of around three and a half, one of around 4. so a lot of people saying, well, actually already well, actually you've already had pay rise. the had bit of a pay rise. the government saying we'll see barclays and this is a real kind of increase in and this is what i your views on i want to get your views on steve varley that steve varley saying that the unions now deliberately unions are now deliberately targeting patients health. the unions of deny that completely. they say that by that rhetoric and i wanted know who do you if when people die today gbviews@gbnews.uk patricia has been on nhs workers and their union representatives are holding a gun to both the government's head and the people of this country. the ones on strike have shown their true colours obviously did not enter the profession to , care for the profession to, care for patients and save lives on them. that's patricia's view. now i will counter that slightly , will counter that slightly, patricia, by saying that there was a yougov published earlier today that showed 63. it was 63% of the great british support

strikes, 65% for nurses. okay john says paramedics and are at the bottom of the nhs scale compared to the diverse managers, etc. and the rest of made up jobs in the health services. perhaps we should be looking at this and branch and roots inquiry into this . yeah. roots inquiry into this. yeah. and a lot of people are this exact view actually this exact view john which is well we get that maybe paramedics and nurses etc. could do with a pay rise i think are quite willing to give that to them not maybe to the extent the level that they want, but let's just have a look at what some of our money is going. the amount of existing wastage is there and the amount of people direct tears of lived experience diversity manages people direct tears of lived e)whopping diversity manages people direct tears of lived e)whopping greatersity manages people direct tears of lived e)whopping great bigy manages people direct tears of lived e)whopping great big salarieses a whopping great big salaries for some would argue made up and pointless jobs, but that we go but do want to keep your views but i do want to keep your views coming because we're coming in because we're returning this throughout the course do you blame course of show who do you blame as and what unfortunately people die today as of these die today as a result of these strikes is our gb news dot

strikes gbp is our gb news dot uk. is it a government or is it the unions? let's turn now to our political editor darren mccaffrey , who in westminster mccaffrey, who is in westminster for for political angle on for us for political angle on this. government still this. the government still budging. dara no, they're really not. they had a meeting today. patrick in whitehall over meeting effectively an emergency meeting, if you like with various ministers from across government departments, including the health secretary steve barclay. but that was not to talk about how to bring these strikes to an end. rather it was about how mitigate some of about how to mitigate some of the of the strikes the consequences of the strikes in impact on the in terms of the impact on the health particularly health service, particularly today but also today with paramedics. but also looking to further , not looking ahead to further, not least of all strikes by guards at airports and ports this weekend and it is interesting, the government's still in their heels on all of this, saying that they are not prepared to reopen kind of pay negotiations. now, it is all terribly complex because there different unions involved in different sectors looking for different amounts money. in fact, some unions have even suggested they're not going to put a figure on it. but what

they all do agree on what they all do want to talk about is not just conditions which the government they're prepared just conditions which the gotalkment they're prepared just conditions which the gotalk about. they're prepared just conditions which the gotalk about. tithisz prepared just conditions which the gotalk about. tithis issue ared just conditions which the gotalk about. tithis issue of d to talk about. but this issue of pay, to talk about. but this issue of pay, know, the commons pay, you know, the commons arguments has been arguments repeatedly has been that help fuel that that will help fuel inflation but the very cause of the that we're in this however the that we're in this however the unions sit around and say well hold on a moment that pay body conclusion was based on inflation when it was predicted to be much lower than it is now . and actually lots of economists would suggest that you know what wage increases in the public sector actually increase inflation by very much. we've got this incredible at the moment both sides willing to relent . and as you said, we've relent. and as you said, we've also got this war of words between the health secretary and the unions is definitely being ratcheted in the last 24 hours or so. stephen barclay , the or so. stephen barclay, the health secretary overnight saying that the unions, particularly the unions, had taken a conscious choice to inflict upon patients a very, very strong unite boss. so

response the unite boss, sharan graeme who called that a blatant lie frankly , the opposite of all lie frankly, the opposite of all of this is that as enter christmas and new year , there is christmas and new year, there is little sign that of these strikes going to be sorted out. any time soon. and we can frankly expect a lot further disruption the new year. yeah can't absolutely in doubt announce but a little bit earlier on. but i'm just keen to revisit it slightly which is that the labour as well have got a relatively entrenched. a relatively well entrenched. they're this as they're not budging on this as well. saying they well. they're saying they will just more and as you said just have more and as you said as well, darren, this is likely to rumble. noel but wonder to rumble. noel kyle but wonder whether not the government is whether or not the government is deciding longer deciding that maybe the longer this on and the bigger this runs on and the bigger impact there is the public impact that there is the public health, maybe just maybe health, etc. maybe just maybe the opinion will the more public opinion will turn the striking turn against the striking workers . we saw a bit when it workers. we saw a bit when it came to what's going on with the railways, example believe railways, for example believe that about average of that down to about an average of around if the latest around 44% support if the latest yougov is correct. yougov poll is correct. currently ambulance drivers are

on 63% of public support for what they're doing? nurses are on 65. if i end sitting here and reading over the course of the next weeks, darren, that more and more people dying and the 600 members of the army and navy, the raf have brought navy, the raf have been brought in, much of an impact, in, haven't much of an impact, etc. potentially that etc. then potentially that pubuc etc. then potentially that public opinion might shift. you think ? yeah, it's really think? yeah, it's really fascinating this issue, right? to point out the good example of the railway workers . it's fair the railway workers. it's fair to say a couple of months ago there a slim majority, i there was a slim majority, i think in favour strike action think in favour of strike action that has come down somewhat. and you'll of people you'll see a lot of people sitting home who don't work sitting at home who don't work in pubuc sitting at home who don't work in public think, in the public sector think, actually, you what, a lot actually, you know what, a lot of people in the public sector do get at? well, certainly do get paid at? well, certainly when in the when you take in all the enumeration things like pensions, sick pensions, for example, or sick pay, a pensions, for example, or sick pay, a lot better off. pay, they are a lot better off. some would suggest than those equivalent wages the equivalent wages inside the private sector. but is a risky or very risky gamble for the government. because you're right , is also very possible that the pubuc , is also very possible that the public may well around and say, you know what, the government ,

you know what, the government, even at the table in these negotiations and frankly, there's their faults but i don't know where the government go all of if they really are not of this if they really are not going to on it all. they going to move on it all. they just hoping, as you've suggested that somehow public opinion turns in the favour that the unions frankly run out of steam at the end of the day have to remember that every strike has an of on the an impact, of course, on the wider economy, has an impact wider economy, but has an impact on people striking. on those people striking. they are money and it are not earning money and it will point where, will get to point where, frankly, will potentially frankly, people will potentially not be able carry on with not be able to carry on with strike action , whatever the strike action, whatever the political positioning of all of this is , i think for the this is, i think for the millions of people who are caughtin millions of people who are caught in the middle of all this, are part of the this, who are not part of the unions or indeed side of unions or indeed on the side of the is deep, deep the there is deep, deep frustration that we are frankly going winter of going through a winter of discontent. as i suggested discontent. and as i suggested there sign it's going to there is no sign it's going to come end in 2023. yeah come to an end in 2023. yeah darren, look, thank you very much. mccaffrey he's in much. darren mccaffrey he's in westminster us. look, lot westminster for us. look, a lot of getting in touch of people are getting in touch with well, things, with me as well, saying things, well, actually, quality of well, actually, the quality of care the quality service care and the quality of service

that they're already getting good think it's good enough. and i think it's interesting point some things interesting to point some things here. is a massive to what here. there is a massive to what i'm say now, which is i'm about to say now, which is that, if they are that, well, if they are under—resourced then understaffed, they understaffed, then how can they hit times for hit a rival times for ambulances? but it tends be relatively decent when it comes to one. may remember those to one. you may remember those category one cases i category one cases that i outlined you before, which is basically if your heart stopped pretty you are in pretty much, or you are in desperate risk immediate desperate risk of immediate death , then actually they're death, then actually they're supposed to get to you within around minutes. they normally supposed to get to you within arotthere minutes. they normally supposed to get to you within arotthere accordingthey normally supposed to get to you within arotthere according figures.mally get there according figures. i've about and a half i've got about nine and a half and see that is it. let's and don't see that is it. let's be honest with you, not about service, but the lower the service, but the lower down the category list get the longer category list you get the longer it . then by time that it takes. then by the time that you down to your category you get down to your category fours, there's fours, which supposedly there's a time there of a waiting time expected there of around you can up around 3 hours, you can end up waiting around a bit hours. waiting around and a bit hours. in case of. poor old, 93 in the case of. poor old, 93 year old lady elizabeth, she waited 25 hours for someone to come. and yes, we are hearing 999 calls are down. that's kind . one of the breaking laws to come out of today, which is that

the general public are stepping in to help ease the burden. the ambulance staff by frankly not calling 999. we all know that that will be excessive prank calls and people needless phone calls and people needless phone calls as well to 999. and i think it's important that they are frankly just before anyway. but i have a massive that the people indeed liza dozes on people as indeed liza dozes on the in box leaves and thank you very much best practise she just told me pronounce lisa so there you go lisa alphabet that i you go lisa alphabet that says i bet drop people bet the drop in people ambulances are the very people needit ambulances are the very people need it the the older need it the most the older generation with the keep calm and carry on attitude and some people well pointing out people as well pointing out well, minute, did the well, hang on a minute, did the pubuc well, hang on a minute, did the public do its duty for the public not do its duty for the nhs during, the pandemic and now the is being to do the public is being asked to do its by not easing the its duty again by not easing the dunng its duty again by not easing the during particular crisis during this particular crisis very sides of this very much two sides of this strong it comes from what strong when it comes from what the saying which that the unions are saying which that the unions are saying which that the be talking the government should be talking to that would maybe to us about pay that would maybe be for compromise or as be room for compromise or as currently government currently stands, the government is full percent's pretty is offered full percent's pretty much a broad brush 4% for medical workers and when it

comes to the unions in charge of the ambulances etc. they want 5% above inflation , which is above inflation, which is roughly about 16. nurses, of course , 19. there's a roughly about 16. nurses, of course ,19. there's a gaping course, 19. there's a gaping chasm of difference there and it doesn't look, though anything is going to be sorted any time soon. but in the meantime , 63% a soon. but in the meantime, 63% a year apparently support ambulance strikes and 65% of you apparently support nurses strikes. where are you on that, though? gbv news at gbnews.uk. coming up. i've got loads more for you because the scottish parliament is set to vote on controversial amendments to the gender that gender recognition act that would young would allow children as young as 16 legally reassign their 16 to legally reassign their gendeh 16 to legally reassign their gender. also by way and importantly people who are accused of things like rape crimes against women can change that and end up in a woman's prison or in women's spaces, which i think frankly is a catastrophe. that go . catastrophe. but that would go. i'll have the very latest on that. first, though, take look that. first, though, take a look at hello, i'm alex at your weather. hello, i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather from met office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit1er from met office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit of from met office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit of a from met office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit of a north from met office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit of a north south viet office. deakin and this is your latest w�*bit of a north south splitbffice. a bit of a north south split developing with our weather over the next days. sunny the next couple days. sunny spells the north, too

spells across the north, too many further south, many showers further south, misty and murky conditions. the uk is surrounded by low systems at the moment. this one is drifting away, but it's still providing winds and providing some gusty winds and plenty showers through wednesday evening across much of the north as showers steadily fading overnight. further south. generally, it's dry through the evening until we start to see rain drizzle that's pushing up across southern areas that could be heavy for tom as well as it moves in just leaving a lot of mist and murk and low cloud, quite poor visibility on some of the higher routes it will stay reasonably mild, which is mostly above but pockets of above freezing, but pockets of frost possible with some clear skies northeast and skies over northeast england and northern scotland into details for thursday. as i said, a bit of a north south split. misty, murky conditions in the south with rain and drizzle at times drifting in brightest guys for in northern ireland some scattered showers particularly in northern scotland the winds generally light than today. but the winds will strengthen and bnng the winds will strengthen and bring down colder air because shetland where the showers may

well turn to once more well start to turn to once more further south. oh, look that ten, 11, 12 degrees. so it's mild , it still quite dank mild, but it is still quite dank and drizzly, well into , the and drizzly, well into, the evening and staying quite murky poor visibility on some of the higher routes across the south as we head through thursday night and into friday, friday of course, many people may well be hitting the roads and to be aware , we are looking at some aware, we are looking at some heavy rain coming across england and wales is band of sweeping its way northwards . it could be its way northwards. it could be pretty time again , pretty heavy for time again, misty conditions for as misty murky conditions for as well much a sculptor looking and bright through most of friday too. this rain creeps into the south. across northern south. it'll wet across northern ireland later on on friday as well. that's wet weather leading to a mild to the christmas period. still in doubt for most, but turning colder during . but turning colder during. christmas from northwest .

well so we can all that the issue of women's rights indeed child safety as are hugely hugely important things but let's just bear that in mind when we talk about this next topic, because the scottish parliament has been debating whether children as young as 16 should to change legal should be able to change legal gendeh should be able to change legal gender. this afternoon a number of rallies have taken outside the scottish parliament, both in favour and against proposed change of legislation . there is change of legislation. there is a lot to unpack here it comes. this is not as straightforward as sounds and msps are considering to remove certain hurdles to changing gender which are specified in the 2004 gender recognition act. so if the bill is passed wanting to change that designation no longer need a doctor's diagnose of gender dysphoria. so me as a 15 year old or your son or daughter or whatever they want to be known as going forward, would not need as going forward, would not need

a doctor to them that they've got gender dysphoria . they can got gender dysphoria. they can decide on their own . they'd decide it on their own. they'd also need to have lived in their chosen months. chosen for just three months. think quickly. three months of your life goes and that is enough, apparently, for you to be categorically certain as a child that you are born into the wrong body needs to change your gender there's much more gender anyway. there's much more to it than that as well, because as far as we're aware, does as far as we're aware, it does appear people who are appear that people who are currently for currently awaiting trial for like being allowed like rape could up being allowed to change their gender. what does that for women's does that mean for women's spaces? mean for spaces? what does that mean for women's joining me now women's prisons? joining me now is the director of transgender, stephanie davies. arye, thank you much . now, look, i am you very much. now, look, i am keen to your views on this keen to get your views on this for obvious reasons why on earth is this such top priority for the snp? because from where i sitting now, it would appear that you women, for example , a that you women, for example, a much bigger voter on the very vocal trans lobby . well, they vocal trans lobby. well, they but they haven't been listened

to and their concerns haven't been taken seriously. and then we're told that a rapist funding trial could just change the sex on his birth certificate and gain legal status as a woman and be put into a woman's prison just like that with with checks and balances. so any concern about the issues that women have been raising and we've been told that are fear mongering, but this is a bill that allows man to change, not his gender, his sex on his birth certificate to say that he born female, which gives legal status as female. so clearly that impacts women's rights. but women have not been listened to and women's fears, concerns have not been heard. and bill has been rushed by the scottish parliament for whatever reason they want to do this to look progressive , to obey the

look progressive, to obey the trans lobby . i don't know . look progressive, to obey the trans lobby . i don't know. but trans lobby. i don't know. but as it stands , women are saying as it stands, women are saying and women . yeah, but just just and women. yeah, but just just to just from this, there's two issues here. there's child safety as far as the well, there's a load of issues. but because child safety as far as can see, which is that a lot of children who maybe have autism or the different mental health problems as well potentially can now whether now change that gender, whether that's just on that's physically just on a birth certificate that could lead bigger issues down the lead to bigger issues down the line. be a concern. line. i mean, that be a concern. stephanie this is area this is my area of biggest concern. what's happening to teenage . so what's happening to teenage. so to be able to change the sex on your birth certificate will impact what kind of clinical and therapeutic treatment receive it's not going to be as possible for a therapist to explore underlying issues about why you feel the way you do . if a child feel the way you do. if a child has a gender recognition certificate, it's will impact on

schools . so if a child is schools. so if a child is sexually transitioned as , it's sexually transitioned as, it's called in schools and that child is being told and has a gender recognition certificate is this school going to be going to dare to keep single sex toilets and changing rooms, for example, and protect girls when a child has a certificate saying that they are legally the opposite ? this legally the opposite? this creates huge problems for the schools, for other children . schools, for other children. don't forget social transition is not legislation that one child. it's legislation for every single other child in the school who has socially transition. that child and use the compelled language which yet now there are also serious concerns that nicholas sturgeon as government is rushing through this controversial or gender reform before christmas in order to avoid a revolt from , a lady to avoid a revolt from, a lady called kate forbes, who is snp minister, who or is expected to

vote against this , he would then vote against this, he would then have to resign, which will be a political. that to me is just another element of. absolutely. i can't just get some clarification for you as we understand it, that if i was on bail for rape, for raping woman and i was going to scotland , i and i was going to scotland, i lived a woman for three months. i could my gender or sex to that of a woman and i could whilst presumably on bail for rape, go into women's changing rooms as we understand them, as it stands now. that's how i understand . now. that's how i understand. i've heard that there are going to be some things coming up to address that later, but it's not. the amendment was voted so as it stands now. yes and as it stands, 16 year olds can get gender recognition certificates. and as , say, a lot of these and as, say, a lot of these teenage judges or on autism autism spectrum, a lot the

children in care , children with children in care, children with mental health issues and the government is reinforcing , government is reinforcing, saying one simplistic narrative to children without giving them care and ignoring, safeguarding and stephanie, thank you very, very much . sorry that we're very much. sorry that we're a little bit squeezed for time here, but i'm glad that we've managed to try to pack as much we possibly could in that hour. stephanie davies at who stephanie davies arrived at who is transgender is director of transgender training, what training, reacting to. what lunacy on north of the lunacy is going on north of the border of scotland? you're with me, christys on gb news. me, patrick christys on gb news. now, going to go now, though, we're going to go to . on patrick. thank good to head. on patrick. thank good afternoon to you. well, good evening, i should say. it is a winter's night. it and our top story tonight, ambulance unions have been angrily after the government them of making a conscious to harm patients by going out on the strike . going out on the strike. meanwhile that is we want to want to want to be well and we

to wear it well. the health secretary for his part, steve barclay, claims the unions are refusing to work with the government a national level on how can cover emergencies during strike . unite's sharon says the strike. unite's sharon says the comments are a blatant and an embarrassment for. him and the government, the gmb has called the comments insulting and unison general secretary christina mckenna says mr. doesn't even want to negotiate . doesn't even want to negotiate. we sit down in a room, you have a bit of give and take and both. i'm getting nothing him or from this government. all they're to me is we can't negotiate. p and where does that leave us? one of the reasons the ambulance service, the nhs is in such a dire state because they haven't invested in the workforce. so people those who are left people leave those who are left are under increasing pressure . are under increasing pressure. these people don't get meal breaks they a day off , breaks, they have a day off, they work excessive overtime because is the only way the service can run . a man who service can run. a man who admitted murdering his pregnant

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welcome back, everybody right now, the health secretary says that the ambulance drivers today are putting lives risk. well, earlier today , the national earlier today, the national medical director , nhs england, medical director, nhs england, has warned people not to take unnecessary . he says that we unnecessary. he says that we need to all be sensible during difficult time. so we take the off our ambulance crews and nhs.

but he's not the first to tell us to be extra careful today. health minister will quince says people are planning any risky activity. i would strongly them not to not to do so . okay so not to not to do so. okay so let's just run through some of the things that you definitely shouldn't be doing today while people go on strike. fancy bit of a kick about. no, it's contact sport. forget about . contact sport. forget about. you've been told you can't do that that game of ice hockey and. i can't plan that's out of the window now. american football. about france football. forget about france francis pint after work. no sticking to the water instead because during nhs strike action drinking is too risky. isn't that right, will quince? people planning any risky activity ? i planning any risky activity? i would strongly encourage them. not to not to do so. fancy a this evening? no it's too dangerous. what if pavement is suppy dangerous. what if pavement is slippy from the rain it turns to ice. so the local hasn't filled

in a pothole danger. danger. danger everywhere . for all the danger everywhere. for all the women out there who are about to give birth this evening. no don't go into labour. don't you dare. isn't that right, will quince? people are planning any risky activity . i would strongly risky activity. i would strongly encourage them. not not to do . encourage them. not not to do. so. and finally, check on your elderly neighbours in case that they've got into difficulty. but just face them. don't leave the house because that is too much of a risk , for goodness sake. of a risk, for goodness sake. ladies and gentlemen do not get ill today. do not over. don't give birth , don't have a stroke give birth, don't have a stroke and almost that. sorry, i'm just in my ear right now ? yeah. i am in my ear right now? yeah. i am covering for mark steyn . i am covering for mark steyn. i am not getting injured like. what? you've got too much . was taking you've got too much. was taking too much cover . i've got it. too much cover. i've got it. well i know i'm covering for mark steyn layer. i'm christmas day . yeah, well, i'm not allowed

day. yeah, well, i'm not allowed to get injured . all well but oh to get injured. all well but oh i've got a kick about scheduled later. no, sorry . i i've got a kick about scheduled later. no, sorry. i see. i've got a kick about scheduled later. no, sorry . i see. this i've got a kick about scheduled later. no, sorry. i see. this is ridiculous . the can't do the ridiculous. the can't do the news. what's going happen to me in here? oh, right. okay. well ladies and gentlemen , just. just ladies and gentlemen, just. just just wrap yourselves in bubble wrap, okay? just wrap yourselves in bubble wrap today , because we in bubble wrap today, because we all have to protect our nhs. what's up ? just be careful. just what's up? just be careful. just a sticker says fragile. right? okay all right. well, this is me now, ladies, gentlemen. fantastic fantastic. so i am just taking will quince is advice. okay wrap yourself in bubble wrap . i will not be bubble wrap. i will not be giving birth. hopefully won't be having a stroke. i certainly won't be having a pint. i won't go outside i won't have a kick about my mags because. we've got to take the burden off already, jess. right. the winter discontent that we're witnessing spans workers many different spans workers in many different pubuc spans workers in many different public sectors. workers, of course, walked today course, they've walked today national highways. that sets the stage for action . workers are

stage for action. workers are planning to strike again the new yeah planning to strike again the new year. recent yougov polling, though, suggests the majority of brits backing staff in brits are backing nhs staff in their action. and of course are more in support of nhs staff. baggage handlers, 63% of people they back ambulance workers on strike today with who walked out yesterday having more than 66% of people supporting that cause as you can see . ladies and as you can see. ladies and gentlemen, i now fully supporting the ambulance strikers as and the nurses striking i decided to wrap myself in bubble so nothing happens to me in order to protect our beloved nhs . joining protect our beloved nhs. joining me now is independent and former head of health analysis at the office for statistics and specialist policy, southern region organiser nick chaffey. let's start with with you, jamie. does public for our health care workers mean that payroll houses might be more likely? do you think ? well, i likely? do you think? well, i don't . so, patrick. i think don't. so, patrick. i think obviously the nurses and the ambulance workers is a very one

of the first strikes that they going on. and with the you look at the rail workers , they've at the rail workers, they've been prolonging strike for a while . if you look at the actual while. if you look at the actual yougov survey. so they're saying that of they're blaming the that kind of they're blaming the government the going government for the going on strike actually more blame strike and actually more blame for when you on for the unions. when you get on to of rail workers and to the kind of rail workers and think about it as well, most obviously there's more people who will for a train each day than to hospital. that's than go to the hospital. that's probably playing into bit of probably playing into a bit of the figures there's been the figures because there's been a of disruption, a long period of disruption, whereas to to the whereas people tend to go to the hospital much and. obviously hospital as much and. obviously if for an ambulance if you fill in for an ambulance and can't get one, i'm sure you won't be supporting the strike there. think that's there. so i think that's probably seeing probably what we're seeing in figures. know, the figures. but, you know, the important thing probably is today is day as you yourself today is not day as you yourself up and do some risky up there to go and do some risky stuff is what kind of already stuff is what is kind of already there because that if there because we know that if you category calls you get those category calls like heart problem and all the like a heart problem and all the rest, you go seven minute target to respond to those, then not in there before the strike. well, this thing. right. okay. this is the thing. right. okay. so nick, i'll bring you into it

now because if do decide to now because if we do decide to give know inflation give them all know an inflation busting inflation, busting 5% above inflation, apparently want, an apparently is what they want, an inflation rise. inflation busting pay rise. and all a sudden and we end up all of a sudden and we end up with like plus the elizabeth davies, the 93 year old woman screaming in pain on the floor, dying because of a fractured way in 25 hours for an ambulance. people are to go. what was a lot for was this folly for money? well, obviously, the facing the health service were the problems of yesterday the day before last week and, last month, the ambulance is in crisis. week and, last month, the ambulance is in crisis . and the ambulance is in crisis. and the best way to resolve that first step is to pay ambulance what they deserve , which is an they deserve, which is an inflation proof . it's all inflation proof. it's all workers should be in receipt of that. and why should anyone . that. and why should anyone. well receiving a pay cut at the present time the bankers aren't receiving a pay cut. they've just had their bonuses opened up and increased . i'm just going to and increased. i'm just going to stick with you, nick. i'm just going to stick with nick, going to stick with you, nick, on is because you on that right, is because you said a phrase, i think what stood a lot of people.

stood out to a lot of people. you said all workers deserve inflation pay rise. but inflation busting pay rise. but to fair, any would think to be fair, any would think that's . mental well, they would that's. mental well, they would probably because they're overpaid and under worked not like the majority of people at the moment who are overworked underpaid. and been the underpaid. and that's been the problem for the last decade. and people been pushed to a tipping point . obviously, trade point. and obviously, as trade unions , we don't distinguish unions, we don't distinguish between the deserving and the undeserving in a hospital, the whole works on the basis of cleaners porters, of everyone , cleaners porters, of everyone, the hospital working together . the hospital working together. and it's by standing together that we have our power to change, which is what people seeking at the present time . seeking at the present time. jeremy i'll throw it back to you a way we have already seen . that a way we have already seen. that support for rail workers is being by the way, it's around the 44% mark. previously it was much higher at jamie would you be expecting to see maybe something similar taking place when it comes to our healthcare professionals as well if people

do start dying. i'm saying tomorrow talking about the amount of people dying as a result by ambulance drivers which hopefully i'm but which hopefully i'm not, but i probably will be. do think probably will be. do you think pubuc probably will be. do you think public will drop ? well, public support will drop? well, it will drop, but i don't think it'll drop much as what we've got the railways. remember, everybody clapping for everybody was out clapping for the the pandemic the nhs through the pandemic and i probably look at the i probably if you look at the private they're got to private sector, they're got to take the point that take a kind of the point that just being there, you just being raised there, if you look into private sector, look into the private sector, the pay in the private the average pay in the private sector, is just sector, the last here is just over so they're not all over 6. so they're not all getting inflation busting pay rises in private sector as well . and i think ultimately know if with the rail workers, if there's trains, people get frustrated they can't get around. if the ambulance is can't get out and reach you and people die. that is obviously a serious matter and the problem with ambulance is it's with the ambulance work is it's not in particular the ambulance services in crisis of services in crisis because of the themselves the ambulances themselves is more to the fact that if more to do with the fact that if you take seven days and the you take the seven days and the most data the uk is in most recent data the uk is in england . patrick we've had like england. patrick we've had like 29000 hours wasted out of

ambulances stuck because they can't put patients in the. that's the issue with the england service the moment. all right. well, look be right. okay. well, look, be fascinating how public fascinating to see how public support does not support or indeed does not continue for these strikes. so thank you very much, both of you. a bit squeeze for you. a little bit squeeze for time. always this way at time. it is always this way at the one of my shows, the end of one of my shows, because timekeeping because terrible at timekeeping but both of you a but thank you very both of you a range of views coffey there range of views nick coffey there of as well jamie of course and as well jamie jenkins who is getting touch he's the independent statistician and former head of health analysis . nick chaffey health analysis. nick chaffey was the southern region organiser. still, as i. socialist party. right. moving on moving moving on. the new york times has published another page royal family page slamming the royal family britain institutionally. page slamming the royal family britain institutionally . oh, britain as institutionally. oh, it's all going to be boring , it's all going to be boring, isn't it? after the alleged treatment of meghan markle opinion , roxane gay suggests opinion, roxane gay suggests that the duchess of sussex to pay that the duchess of sussex to pay with her life to marry into the institution . yeah, right. it the institution. yeah, right. it is the latest article in the new york times to take a negative attitude towards institutions in recent months . with me now is

recent months. with me now is former royal correspondent the sun, charles ray . charlie, great sun, charles ray. charlie, great to have you all. thank you very, very much. why is the new york times decided we're all a bunch of frothing racist ? you reckon of frothing racist? you reckon any ever virtually been any of them ever virtually been to well, clearly . i to britain? i well, clearly. i mean, i'm getting sick and tired . a bunch of pseudo intellect shows in america preaching and teaching us , all complaining teaching us, all complaining about racism. excuse that american enough problems in their country about race far far more than have. and i think it's absolutely a disgrace for the attack on the royal family. is this exactly the effect that and harry have had now? it's all very well and good them wanting to find freedom and to find. let's be honest, we have tens, millions of pounds either in oprah's bosom or in netflix or in wherever. spotify. right. but are actively portraying are they actively portraying britain as a racist country the world stage? because that unforgivable. yeah. now it looks like that's what they're they

are accusing they are. they are whipping up all this hateful that they they claim that they are back from social media everything else and they're whipping it all up. no, this not the first time that this new york times has done this. this is about the third the fourth time they've had a pulpit. the monarchy . and, you know, to show monarchy. and, you know, to show that to suggest that, you know, meghan could have pig with a life joining the royal family and in know way this this is just rubbish isn't it. charles talk about paying with your life. i mean i'm not being funny, but if i, i, i'd put up with mary and harry a matter of weeks before i had to go to america and earn. i mean, the house is so big, never has the same from one day to the next she can have someone else around. pay money to around. i'd pay money for you to marry it be perfectly. yeah, marry it to be perfectly. yeah, but no. the thing is, i'm turning back into the old right. we be in las vegas doing. whatever. before you know what? yeah. and you ? it's this yeah. and you? it's this continual snide thing from these

american people that is starting really great, whether they're accusing , you know, the tabloid accusing, you know, the tabloid press, it's done. oh, it's own lane racism and evidence. but to suggest that the royal family is racist and the britain is racist. no, they are not. the royal is not a racist organisation . britain is not organisation. britain is not a racist country . it is just racist country. it is just ludicrous for these people to suggest that . charlie wright, suggest that. charlie wright, thank you very much, has charles wright, the former royal correspondent for the sun when our time because up next it is dewbs & co but this time is with dewbs& co but this time is with emily carver who is here in the studio. what coming up, emily? yes. apologies i am not michelle dewberry. she is her christmas break from today. so what i think one of the biggest stories of the day and i think scotland about to make a massive mistake. that's the scottish gender self—declaration that's going be happening. so people will be

able to declare their legal gender without even a medical diagnose . so i'm worried about diagnose. so i'm worried about what this means for children. children as young as 16 will be able to legally change their gendeh able to legally change their gender. i'm worried about what that means for women's rights. and course another big story and of course another big story of the day, those ambulance strikes i saw you looking a bit fragile earlier because we've been advised to take part in been advised not to take part in any risky activities. i'm asking has steve barclay and the government got it right? this one, who's to blame? well we go, emily. good stuff. it'll be fantastic show, no doubt. emily carver covering for carver we'll be covering for michelle dewberry. just after me in a matter moments. but in a matter of moments. but cheeky for something cheeky little plug for something else. later else. we've got on later as well. i'm gonna to wrap well. i'm gonna have to wrap myself back up in the bubble wrap. i'm covering so many shows here they're not here on gb news they're not allowing risk of allowing me to run risk of getting injured whatsoever. i'm not well, like not allowed to. well, a bit like the of the british the majority of the british pubuc the majority of the british public which is public now, which is government's the face government's advice in the face of. i'm strikes in nurses strikes you go strikes don't you dare go outside your pretty much. outside your own pretty much. don't give if you're

don't you dare give if you're a woman. good can you woman. good grief. can you imagine. have a pint just imagine. don't have a pint just in. you end up in a&e. good luck if you decide to you want to have a stroke or like have a stroke or anything like that, leave it out, people. that, just leave it out, people. we need to our we all need to protect our beloved nhs . hello, i'm alex beloved nhs. hello, i'm alex deakin and. this is your latest weather update from the met office. a bit of a north south split developing with our weather over the next couple of days. sunny spells across the north, not many showers north, not too many showers further what misty further south, what misty and murky the is murky conditions. the uk is surrounded low pressure surrounded by low pressure systems the moment. this one systems at the moment. this one is drifting away, but it's still providing gusty winds providing some gusty winds and plenty through plenty of showers through wednesday across much of wednesday evening across much of the north as showers fading overnight. further generally, it's dry the evening until we start to see rain and drizzle pushing up across southern . that pushing up across southern. that rain could be heavy for time as well as it moves in just leaving a lot of mist and murk and low cloud quite poor visibility , cloud quite poor visibility, some of the higher routes it will stay reasonably mild, which is mostly above freezing. but pockets of frost possible with some clear skies.

pockets of frost possible with some clear skies . northeast some clear skies. northeast england and northern scotland into details for thursday. as i said, a bit of a north split. misty, murky conditions in. the south with rain and drizzle at times drifting in brightest with scotland and northern ireland. some showers, particularly northern scotland. the winds generally than today. but the winds will strengthen and bring down air. of course shetland where the showers may well start to turn to snow once further south. oh, look at that, ten, 11, 12 degrees. so it's mild but it is still quite dank and drizzly, well into the evening and staying quite murky. again, poor visibility on some the higher routes across the south. we head through thursday night into friday. friday, of course many people may well be hitting the and to be aware that we are looking at some heavy rain coming in across england and wales is band of rain sweeping its way northwards say could be pretty heavy for time again misty murky conditions for many as well much a sculptor looking dry through most of dry and bright through most of friday till this rain creeps into the it'll wet across

into the south. it'll wet across northern later on friday northern ireland later on friday as that's wet weather as well. that's wet weather leading to a mild to the christmas period. dylan doubt for most, but turning colder dunng for most, but turning colder during christmas from the northwest .

at six p on. welcome to dewbs& co with me emily carver. i'm sorry if you were hoping to see michelle's face this evening. she's kindly allowed me to stand in for she begins her in for her as she begins her christmas holidays. so the government has double down today when to the striking when it comes to the striking unions. barclay the health unions. steve barclay the health secretary, ambulance secretary, has said ambulance unions a conscious unions have taken a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients. was this an unnecessary escalation or do you

think the government