tv Patrick Christys GB News December 23, 2022 3:00pm-6:01pm GMT
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well a very afternoon, everybody, you're with me patrick christys here on gb news now, everyone is winding down for christmas, but not because there's a giant full of news out there. and we're to do the up to lot of it border force officers have taken the day off . some have taken the day off. some people might be wondering where they've been year after year after numbers. after year of record numbers. people the channel people crossing the channel we've on the we've got an exclusive on the knock effects the border knock on effects of the border force . and a mass shooting in
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force. and a mass shooting in paris leaves at least three dead.the paris leaves at least three dead. the suspects reportedly was known to authorities for previously attacking migrants a year ago. we'll have the latest on that. i have the tireless campaigner for women's rights, the wonderful kelly jane, keen to react to the news . women's to react to the news. women's rights actually took a backseat in scotland yesterday. male rapist now be allowed into female space westminster block the gender recognition bill despite the constitutional consequences it nurses are threatening more strike action as well. classic get emails coming in people i want to hear from you mainly on two topics today let's narrow it down a bit. should westminster overrule scotland on the gender bill madness and so i'm going a little bit liz i got these my inbox as well. chambers all up. okay what is the worst present you've ever sent to anyone received the worst one you've ever suttons anyone. lot of people doing last ditch shopping today gbviews@gbnews.uk them flying in. but now, as you had .
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flying in. but now, as you had. good afternoon. it's coming up to 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones the gb newsroom three people have been killed and several others after a gunman opened fire. a kurdish cultural centre in central paris. it's confirmed those who died were from the kurdish community live show locals gathering outside the centre this afternoon to their respects. a 69 year old suspect has detained by police in connection with the attack according to french the suspect was known to police allegedly attacked a migrant last year. some the health secretary has called latest strikes by nurses on january the 18th and 19th disappointing and says they're in no one's best interests . the in no one's best interests. the royal college of nursing says walk outs will go ahead unless the government negotiations over pay - the government negotiations over pay . meanwhile, the gmb the government negotiations over pay. meanwhile, the gmb has
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called off a post—christmas strike by ambulance workers in england and wales. they'll now strike on january the 11th. the union's national secretary, rachel , thanked the public for rachel, thanked the public for their support. rachel, thanked the public for their support . the rachel, thanked the public for their support. the public are deeply worried our nhs and we are to people across the country have been incredible in backing our members and nhs workers and we care so much about them . we care so much about them. that's why we are suspending the proposed gmb industrial action on the 28th of december. we the public, will appreciate being able to enjoy christmas without any additional anxiety . any additional anxiety. meanwhile, the prime minister has apologised for christmas travel disruption following strike by border force staff . we strike by border force staff. we want say to you what what heathrow.7 gatwick, birmingham, cardiff glasgow and manchester airports are all affected.
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however, heathrow does claim it's operating as normal military personnel and volunteers . the civil service volunteers. the civil service have been trained to step in rishi sunak public sector pay must be controlled to keep down. first of all, i'm saddened and disappointed about the disruption that has been caused to so people's lives, particularly at christmas time. what i'm trying to do is make the right long term decisions for the country, for everybody's benefit. i think we all know that the major economic we all face now is inflation. it's inflation that's eating into everyone's packets is rising cost of living. and i want to make sure that reduce inflation. part of that is being responsible when it comes to setting public pay . gb setting public sector pay. gb news on the sounds face millions of pounds extra fuel costs as they deal likely long delays dunng they deal likely long delays during the border force strike. british airways is one of a number of airlines instructing its pilots to take on additional fuel to help cope with holding the skies for an extra hour . the skies for an extra hour. senior aviation source said the
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contingent c plan was essential but extremely costly . the prime but extremely costly. the prime minister says it's completely reasonable for the uk government to consider blocking new gender legislation in scotland . rishi legislation in scotland. rishi sunak's comments come after msps voted yesterday to pass the gender recognition reform . it gender recognition reform. it lowers the age when people apply to change their legal gender to 16 and removes the need for i6 and removes the need for medical diagnosis. hollyrood has warned any attempted intervention from the uk government will be vigorously contested . a powerful arctic contested. a powerful arctic storm is sweeping across parts of the us and, canada, with temperatures plunging to as low as —45 degrees. experts warning exposure to bare skin could lead to frostbite within minutes . to frostbite within minutes. more than 100 million people are under weekend weather ahead of the busiest days of the year. the storm's to develop into what's being described as a bomb cyclone with it heavy, blinding
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snow . well, that is back here . snow. well, that is back here. motorists are being warned to expect a long delays as millions hit the road to spend christmas with friends and family. the aa says today be the busiest day of the festive period with an estimated 16.9 million journeys being made across. estimated 16.9 million journeys being made across . the estimated 16.9 million journeys being made across. the uk. a strike tomorrow by thousands of rmt members working at network rail is expected to make matters worse. the walkout will last until december the 27th. the princess of wales has paid tribute to the late elizabeth in a special broadcast to air on christmas eve tomorrow . a christmas eve tomorrow. a warning the following contains flashing images. catherine introduces royal carol service. the first since the queen died september. it was held at abbey and attended by members of the royal family , including the king royal family, including the king and queen consort year. we've ianed and queen consort year. we've invited hundreds of inspiring individuals . the service. those individuals. the service. those who showcase the power of
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connectedness and community values. allowing us to continue her majesty's tradition of recognising and thanking those who have gone above and beyond to support others . her majesty to support others. her majesty leaves with us an incredible and one that has deeply inspired many of us and. george cohen, part of england's 1966 many of us and. george cohen, part of england's1966 world cup winning team , has died aged 83. winning team, has died aged 83. cohen every minute of the victorious campaign home soil and in total won 37 caps for his country , his former club fulham country, his former club fulham announced death this morning . announced death this morning. this is gb news will bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to . it's back to. patrick hello. wonderful is patrick christys here on gb news? we've
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got loads for you today. don't worry. will be trying to keep it a little bit lighter towards. the end of this hour. as i ask you, tell me the worst christmas present you've ever sent anyone. i've already you the worst i've already asked you the worst ones received. time ones you've received. this time i what a terrible sun i want know what a terrible sun grams daughter, husband i want know what a terrible sun grarareiaughter, husband i want know what a terrible sun grarare basically husband i want know what a terrible sun grarare basically get husband i want know what a terrible sun grarare basically get the sband i want know what a terrible sun grarare basically get the phone you are basically get the phone coming in gb is a gbnews.uk. i've got some classics there i've got some classics in there myself no prizes myself anyway. right. no prizes if guess today's if you guess today's story though. more strikes this though. it's more strikes this time. is border force staff walking out causing disruption to airports across the uk? i a lot of people already emailing and saying they been and saying where have they been with record numbers in the with the record numbers in the channel we'll get stuck channel but yes, we'll get stuck into members the into that. members of the players included players union have included as well passport controls well staff at passport controls are beginning eight days of industrial action as part of a dispute over pay pensions and job security employee ease of walked out heathrow manchester birmingham cardiff and glasgow airports . they're also striking airports. they're also striking at the ports newhaven earlier the uk force chief operating officer steve dann said that he didn't think there'd be significant delays because of
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the strike. well we've done a lot of work to try and reduce and minimise any delays at all. working with the operators. as you're probably aware, that's the airlines, the airports. we've had lots of meetings with those. we're very, grateful those. we're very, very grateful for they've had. the for the support they've had. the other we've is in other thing we've done is in extra resources. so got significant numbers of military here helping us out volunteers from across government departments . well as border departments. well as border force officers who have come into the workplace with of that and don't think there'll be and we don't think there'll be significant we do everything we can to minimise any disruption. my can to minimise any disruption. my manage pressures, my job is to manage pressures, to resources , to identify to move resources, to identify whether the threats and risk of to move resources, to identify we are about border security. let's be clear and border security will be compromised in what we're doing . and so i'm what we're doing. and so i'm making sure that we have the right the right trained resources in the right place to keep the uk border safe and to ensure a swift passage through the border . well, lots to talk the border. well, lots to talk about when it comes to the border strikes but also on those strikes gb news has been told
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the airlines are facing millions of pounds in extra fuel costs these days. that's because these dry days. that's because jet may to circle for jet may have to circle for longer the sky because of longer in the sky because of airport delays. joining me in the studio is our homeland security mark white. security editor, mark white. mark, let's start with the border force strikes that initially said, what's actually happening and is actually happening and is it actually going people going to impact people generally? mean , fuel generally? i mean, fuel on planes, you off to planes, might you get off to sell it to me? well, it's very important because . at the end of important because. at the end of the day, you when you want, go in your flight off to some in your next flight off to some houday in your next flight off to some holiday resort, the tropics are going to be extra for your ticket because of fuel that they're now having to put on the flight for potential of circle being round in the hold . as are being round in the hold. as are coming into hub like london anybody into london anyway will be aware that quite for many minutes you're circling round waiting for your landing slot. now we've seen an internal email
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from airways instructing its pilots to put an additional hours pilots to put an additional hour's worth of fuel. now equates if you take a flight, new york , the atlantic to london new york, the atlantic to london depending on the type aircraft. but it's roughly about depending on the type aircraft. but it's roughly abou t £27,000 but it's roughly about £27,000 to fuel that aircraft for the trip. if you're putting in extra hours fuel on, it's about six and a half thousand additional pounds required , then multiply pounds required, then multiply that over many thousands of arrive all flights into these affected uk airports during the time of the strike . you can see time of the strike. you can see it's many, many of pounds that airlines that have been absolutely hammered hard by covid the pandemic months and years as it stretched were very destructive for the airline industry . destructive for the airline industry. many thousands of jobs that were lost within not they're rebuilding slowly but surely the people are coming
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another being hit by this well this is it i mean this strikes right the country in all different sectors public health has been affected trans sport has been affected trans sport has been affected . national has been affected. national security potentially being affected this and now crucially as well because our aeroplanes are pumping themselves full of even fuel the environment. i mean maybe this is how we get the strike when greta the strike starts when greta thunberg pipes and goes hang on a you seen the a minute. have you seen the deaths doing the ice deaths we're doing to the ice caps? got to get caps? yeah you've got to get back work. but that national back to work. but that national security i'm i'm concerned i'm sure a lot of are when sure a lot of people are when they the word border force, they hear the word border force, they hear the word border force, they channel, they they think of the channel, they think of terror threats, they think of terror threats, they think whatever. and they're think of whatever. and they're not screams danger not there to that screams danger . yeah. and we've got the chief operating officer from border force that you heard or saw that clip as well saying that, you know, they're manage and they have the resources on passport control . but the fact is those control. but the fact is those men , women of the military and, men, women of the military and, other agencies who've been brought to in help are not fully
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trained professional border staff whose job it is to look out for people that might just not be right . you know, they not be right. you know, they give off some tell signs as far as they're concerned that to them this requires a bit more of an investigation as to who this person is, where they've come from, and what potential threat they might cause. so when you're asking a member of the military to step in and do that, yet it can up a passport and you can that your face matches the passport they've been given but , you don't necessarily have that years of experience that a border force agent would have now to do that same . no, now to do that same. no, absolutely. i won't ask . you why absolutely. i won't ask. you why in your opinion, i keep stopped at border checks. i we'll leave that for a show later . at border checks. i we'll leave that for a show later. you're a happy 90 that for a show later. you're a happy go lucky face and they just want to chat to you. wow, that's it is. sometimes they want to get very personal with but when comes the but when it comes to the military stepping obviously military stepping in, obviously yet the yet another incident, the military having fill the gap military having to fill the gap for the border force. for just just the border force. what do they want? it's just all
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about pay, yeah, they're about pay, is it? yeah, they're paying about pay, is it? yeah, they're paying so many of these paying it. so many of these strikes moment . i strikes are at the moment. i mean, force say that mean, border force say that actually going very actually it's going very smoothly. people have said smoothly. many people have said it's going more smoothly than it would in day when border would in normal day when border are there and mining the passport controls. but that shouldn't be surprising because lots people have probably made alternative flight plans , alternative flight plans, fearing that there would be significant disruption . they've significant disruption. they've also the pulled extra resources into these passport controls with the military in a light to ensure it goes smoothly . ensure it goes smoothly. possible. we have eight days of this. let's see how it goes on day to three or four. i wouldn't quite put the sort of bunting up yet to celebrate how smoothly things have gone. no, and of course as well if it is going to, they would imply maybe people are being through, although i'm sure know although i'm sure they know now. i told furiously that i i am being told furiously that i have border force to play. so let's it what it could lead to
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is flight and flight. but is flight delays and flight. but again we do on a day to again this is we do on a day to day basis we manage the business as usual changes in approach flight bunching and we have the resources to continue able to respond to that . yes, you two respond to that. yes, you two might recognise our clip from just couple of minutes ago, but there we go. we can actually just about, you know, the potential affects on the ground. patrick, if you've got all of the huge passport queues because what you would get are the airlines seeing to the individual or the airports saying to the individual airlines, keep, keep your your passengers on the plane of the flight , don't passengers on the plane of the flight, don't disembarked them at the moment. flight, don't disembarked them at the moment . and then, of at the moment. and then, of course, there's nowhere for the arriving aircraft to go. they're all sort of wrapped and stocked and that's what he was alluding to there . okay. now, obviously, to there. okay. now, obviously, the board strikes are very serious for anyone who's travelling in this country or against this country on all of that stuff. but there is another very, incident was very, very incident that was we understand, potentially understand, is potentially still
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unfolding or the unfolding in one way or the other paris . and mark, i'll other in paris. and mark, i'll throw this one over to you. there has been a shooting. paris. yeah, and speak, paris. yeah, and as we speak, i think we're hearing from the french interior minister who is giving an update on. but the latest we have is that three people have another four people have been injured , two have been injured, two critically at sea. the interior minister might have more up to date information on. that casualty list, a69 year old man is in custody. is the casualty list, a69 year old man is in custody . is the suspected is in custody. is the suspected shooter . this incident happened shooter. this incident happened in the 10th r&d. small in central paris , not far from the central paris, not far from the garda north railway station . for garda north railway station. for those that know paris and it was a kurdish centre that seems to been the epicentre for this shooting attack , you can see the shooting attack, you can see the emergency services , a huge emergency services, a huge response for from them paris no stranger to terrorist attacks in years and of course when these
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attacks happen the thing that most people will think about is islamist terrorist attacks. but is far the predominant threat thatis is far the predominant threat that is facing paris, london and many european cities . on this many european cities. on this particular occasion , though, it particular occasion, though, it seems that it may have been right far right, motivated attack again. we'll wait to hear the information but the suspect we're told, is someone who was recently released from prison and had been and charged in connection with a racist on a migrant camp in paris about a year ago. okay mark, luke, thank you very much for that you. will, of course, be keeping you safe throughout the course of the on those border force strikes on incidents in strikes and on incidents in paris homeland paris mount. why our homeland security now , by the way, security editor now, by the way, just bit of a tease of just a little bit of a tease of something i've got coming up shortly is have the wonderful shortly is we have the wonderful kelly . we will all know. kelly keaney. we will all know. we know as the
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we will all know as the fearless, tireless campaigner for rights. going for women's rights. she is going to would to be reacting, one would imagine, rather furiously to what's on north what's been going on north of the border in scotland, where women's rights essentially have been eroded gender been eroded by this gender recognition , which would see recognition, which would see potentially male very male rapists allowed into women's spaces. this was wave through last night, huge controversy c huge reaction. we'll get all of that very, very shortly. keep your views coming in on it, though, because i think it's frankly kicked right off, hasn't said gbviews@gbnews.uk. but weed rails drugs on called tadpoles the uk's roads are said to be chock block commuters rush chock block as commuters rush home christmas. the a's issued an amber traffic warning for on christmas eve warning drivers of long delays across . the country long delays across. the country gb news is very old. theo chikomba has the latest advice on how to make driving home for christmas as smooth as possible . much for a song about it's two days christmas day and days until christmas day and millions of people are expected be travelling across the uk. the motoring company aa estimated
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there'll be around 16.9 million people on the roads today . people on the roads today. meanwhile, the rac say do travel after 7 pm. this evening as if you travel before you're likely to come across traffic and of course come across those who are commuting from work this evening if you're travelling in london transport london tfl are saying travel if necessary but if you need to travel, do you expect delays? and also for those who are travelling by air, going to airports today, border force workers will be striking today . workers will be striking today. if you are travelling by from newhaven in the south of england, do you expect delays there as well? border force staff work in that area and of course the next few days we're going to have rmt union strikes from tomorrow until monday, the 26th. so travel will be resuming properly for people who need to get on the train on tuesday around 7 am. so is set to be a busy christmas period for those of you are travelling and the advice is to before you travel and planning in advance . well,
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and planning in advance. well, there we go. i'll see as you come to that. i do regret to inform people that the edgware road looks like that every day. but yes, high traffic, high traffic, everybody. anyway, you are patrick christie's are with me, patrick christie's on news the scottish on gb news the scottish parliament signed a controversial recognition controversial gender recognition into . it's made it into law yesterday. it's made it easier for as young as 16 to change gender without seeing a doctor . but there's also the doctor. but there's also the prospect that it could be repealed by the uk government and. this is where it does get even more fascinate than it already is because it already is because actually it could create kind of constitutional crisis. do think that westminster overrule that westminster should overrule this gender madness ? this scottish gender madness? i'm going to be joined by the wonderful on wonderful katie jay keen on that. a lady not known for words. i suspect today of words. i suspect that today of all not going hold all days she's not going to hold back. make sure you tune in for that up. the latest very racially .
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okay. ladies and gentlemen, i went to bed genuine really angry last night as it was because of something that happened up in scotland . i'm sure you're all scotland. i'm sure you're all aware of the other that took place there. well, the prime minister, she said i said it would the uk would be reasonable for the uk government blocking new gender in scotland . the past week's in scotland. the past week's intense are hollyrood doubts over the gender recognition reform bill, which has remarkably been passed . it's remarkably been passed. it's intended to make it easier for trans scots to obtain a gender recognition certificate, which all sounds really well—meaning, although not in itself controversial. however, they were allowed to knock on effects to this the irreversible damage to this the irreversible damage to children and of course , to children and of course, women's safety . westminster women's safety. westminster could effectively veto sturgeon's legislation if it's believed to have an adverse effect on laws. the uk parliament has jurisdiction oven parliament has jurisdiction over. joining me now, i'm going to go straight her because i think we've all had enough of me on this issue as a women's rights campaigner and founder of
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standing it's kelly. standing for women it's kelly. jane do you feel jane kelly, how do you feel yesterday, emerged of yesterday, the that emerged of a group politicians group of elected politicians standing up and applauding a group of men who'd pushed for a bill erode women's rights . it bill erode women's rights. it was quite grotesque, wasn't it , was quite grotesque, wasn't it, how i felt? i don't know. it was between being utterly bereft and completely enraged. it was . it completely enraged. it was. it was like a trans hybrid . i was like a trans hybrid. i right. okay or alright . what in right. okay or alright. what in your view will this bill lead to ? oh gosh, the consequences are so enormous from mean scotland's already been pretty poor when comes to women's spaces anyway , comes to women's spaces anyway, which is why j.k. rowling recently opened a domestic violence rape crisis type centre just for women , because there just for women, because there aren't any in certain areas of scotland . in fact, there aren't scotland. in fact, there aren't too many in england and wales ehhen too many in england and wales either, because everyone's far too frightened exclude men from those spaces . so you have those spaces. so you have domestic violence shelters, you have every single space women
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have every single space women have carved out for ourselves . have carved out for ourselves. it's now completely vanished, evaporate it's because men can just identify their way into them . and then as far as them. and then as far as children go , i think this might children go, i think this might be a first step for scotland, to be a first step for scotland, to be quite honest i mean, spain's just done it. so you can legally change your marker at age of 12 as long as you have some sort of corrupt judge to agree with you. so we really in and today's kind of territory it's really scary the response from quite a lot of people to this is well look it's only a small number of people that would conceive ably abuse this to find themselves as male rapists in women's space what you say to that. well, there's 35 million men in the uk and 12,000 of them are serving time for rape. so it's only ever a small number of men that raping women that only takes one. you
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need man to do it for it. women that only takes one. you need man to do it for it . be need man to do it for it. be catastrophic for women . and the catastrophic for women. and the fear that we feel about into spaces now certainly in scotland , i mean, where can women actually feel safe at all in that country ? why have they done that country? why have they done this ? i i don't know what their this? i i don't know what their motivations i really can't see past not caring about women not caring about the of women, not caring about the of women, not caring about the dignity of women, not seeing women as fully human. i power grab i mean, it could also be the first apparently the first debate back after christmas is going to be scottish independence, maybe this is some sort of dodgy to all backroom deal . i this is some sort of dodgy to all backroom deal. i have this is some sort of dodgy to all backroom deal . i have no all backroom deal. i have no idea nothing . there is not one idea nothing. there is not one good reason, i think that they could possibly be doing this. not one. it's not just the snp laboun not one. it's not just the snp labour. they whipped their politicians to wave this through the greens and lib dems as well
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have they all been captured by what is becoming an increasingly fashionable trans ideology . i fashionable trans ideology. i think . so i fashionable trans ideology. i think. so i mean, look right across this there are women still too frightened to speak, even though they've now just watched an entire country lose women's rights. and there's still women too scared to speak up . these politicians are too up. these politicians are too scared to speak up. the too frightened of not being elected, which house of lords has which why the house of lords has been a godsend in these times . been a godsend in these times. but as for labour , i mean, what but as for labour, i mean, what are they doing? and they just hoping the whole of twitter might vote for them because it's not going be people that not going to be people that worried about the cost of living crisis. this it's not going to they're not going win back they're not going to win back labour these idiotic labour voters with these idiotic policies should westminster policies. should westminster overrule . i'll yeah that overrule that. i'll yeah that would just be so beautiful . what would just be so beautiful. what a lovely christmas miracle . in a lovely christmas miracle. in fact, if could just overrule i think it will consequences can . think it will consequences can. for example my 16 year old
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daughter can she just pop north of the border, become a boy and then come back to england? and then come back to england? and then treat him then everybody has to treat him as boy. so yes, i think the as a boy. so yes, i think the ramifications are huge i think we have no choice but to block it. i ask you something ? it. can i ask you something? hear me out a bit on this. but one of the positives , if not the one of the positives, if not the only positive, that could try to muster out of this last night as i was on my way home, that maybe now this really crystallises for people . kelly okay . all right. people. kelly okay. all right. sorry. please stay where you are . kelly i'm just getting something in my ear. i'm afraid about this. i'm going to be told i've got to go live to paris where three people have been killed a shooting at a killed in a shooting at a kurdish it kurdish community centre. it looks kurdish looks members of the kurdish community gathered there community have gathered there and with police. and are clashing with police. i think we've got some footage of this. this is live from paris right now. so earlier on in the day, a 69 year old man reportedly allegedly shot dead three people in a tent arrondissement of paris,
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supposedly four of the people are injured, two critically. it's understood that it was either at or near kurdish community centre on the who is believed to have carried this attack is a 69 year old man who was known to police for attacking a group of migrants in attacking a group of migrants in a tent or in tents, i should say last year. what you are watching now, if you're watching, is on television, you're listening on radio, you can hear what appears to be smoke billowing out of the street. it may well end up being tear gas 100% sure at the minute. but the fact is that what we can see is clashes or anyway involving , french police anyway involving, french police and as we understand this at the moment anyway members of the kurdish community who have gathered in response to this earlier attack. we're going to keep these on the screen now, these images, because these are live images from paris. and it
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does look like it's getting increasingly agitated why are home and security editor has just told me in the now mark. yeah well people there are clearly very suspicious of the authorities in paris they believe that this is not being properly investigated . we are properly investigated. we are seeing these clashes erupting now in the streets that looks from what i can to be tear gas down the street that would have come from protesters that will have come from the french riot police, the c.r.a. now, this location you're looking at is the 10th r&d easement, which is in central paris , not far from in central paris, not far from the gardiner railway station . in the gardiner railway station. in paris . i mean, you parcel a huge paris. i mean, you parcel a huge multicultural city. there's a big kurdish community in paris. they feel that they been under attack, they say, from the far
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right . and the far right, of right. and the far right, of course, in france , increasingly course, in france, increasingly vocalin course, in france, increasingly vocal in their opposition to the growing number of migrants in that country and the problems that country and the problems that they see , mass migration in that they see, mass migration in having in itself. so there , you having in itself. so there, you know, just as there are in this country, you know increasing tensions. well tensions are much more significant and being felt on a daily basis in cities paris in marseilles , particularly as in marseilles, particularly as well , which in marseilles, particularly as well, which is a ethnically diverse city, is so many of france's big some i mean look at what we can see on the screen that and as a hammer and sickle and one of these hammer and sickle monitors in that partisan is another flag are the
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demonstrations over this stage anyway it appears to be one reason and massing on the streets trying thing taking place and well it's yeah and the camera's panning around now and we can see i mean it's hard to estimate but it doesn't have to be taught definitely the hundreds of people gathering there around the 10th arrondissement, a lot of them with their hands, with phones in their hands, recording thing. i recording whole thing. yeah. i mean lot as always happens and these occasions, a lot of the people that there are probably be people, people are gathering and, you know, curious and nosy , and want to see what's going on. but the will, of course, as are often is the who are more intent on actually confrontation with the authorities . now, with the authorities. now, i should say that we've had in the last few minutes patrick an update from the french interior minister who is in that area himself was speaking to the cameras . he himself was speaking to the cameras. he said that the
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suspect killer is a 16 nine year old french national, we understand is the former train driver. he unknown to the security services , according to security services, according to the interior minister , unclear the interior minister, unclear he said if the attack that happened this morning had political motivations . this 69 political motivations. this 69 year old had a criminal, but not for according the interior minister and he was not known to be a member of a right group. so can see from the pictures they're the various missiles are now being thrown towards the french riot police . are the french riot police. are the crews the equivalent of our tsg territorial support group in the metropolitan police . they are metropolitan police. they are trained deal with public order situations and of course with
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france in particular when they have disputes strikes they often turn quite violent in a way they don't do much here in this country but clearly they are out on the street. so they don't know what those riot shields in french all oh that charging all they are protest is not what said . yeah so i mean that's said. yeah so i mean that's again tactic because the police want to push forward to confront the protesters that are throwing these missiles they are firing these missiles they are firing the csp the gas i should say the tear gas towards the protesters are there and this is the side of this is live from both sides . we've got two live shots that the news agencies are providing for us. here is that same scene you're looking up at this . you're looking up at this. you're looking at it from vantage point of . the protesters
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vantage point of. the protesters back this , we know, just changed back this, we know, just changed is the other camera showing you the vantage point of the police now? to me , there are very few now? to me, there are very few there , police resources. there there, police resources. there are actually . they will as we are actually. they will as we speak , getting resources into speak, getting resources into the because what they weren't telling is injured there as well. what we can see there is a chap clutching his hands, you know being quite all discomfort. well because it's happened so sporadic , so spontaneous , i sporadic, so spontaneous, i should say so quickly , they've should say so quickly, they've not had a chance to fully gear up to the public protection with the helmets and all of the panting that they so they've managed get their shields, the arms to give themselves some initial protection from all the missiles a volley of missiles mark because are a huge volley of missiles incoming and police officers as well. it's worth noting on do not appear to be wearing helmets whatsoever. do
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they mark was they have shields, as mark was saying, you can see saying, as well, you can see there's probably hard to there's probably it's hard to say 20 police officers, say maybe 20 police officers, maybe 20. the camera maybe 20. we have the camera shot from the other side of what's taking out the what's taking place out the moment and hundreds absolutely , moment and hundreds absolutely, hundreds of have been on hundreds of people have been on the other side. the police significantly outnumbered mark and this to be honest with you the percentage one would imagine to ugly, very quickly. to get very ugly, very quickly. yes. i mean, had this yes. i mean, what had this morning was a security situation and the potential this having been declared a terrorist attack, it was a mass shooting. three people killed, another four at least injured , some four at least injured, some seriously . it's developed on seriously. it's developed on from the security situation with the possibility of further attacks to actually very angry crowds reacting to what happened this morning and demanding whatever they're demanding . we whatever they're demanding. we don't know. but the police now having adopted initially that
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security are now having adopt a pubuc security are now having adopt a public order. most of what we can see at the moment. and i was going to describe this for radio listeners. a group of people massed with hugs , throwing and massed with hugs, throwing and anything they got their hands on as police yet again charge out this crowd trying to disperse that. a camera down there right the middle of this and we're on the middle of this and we're on the other side of it and we're on the other side. so we're on the side where one would imagine it's of protesters who it's a lot of protesters who clearly angry at the fact that earlier on today three people died, four people injured, two critically old man critically after 69 year old man known authorities. we understand it opened fire at a kurdish community centre. you can see the protesters are covering their noses and their and their eyes as streaming because of the tear gas that the police have deployed yet again . want to deployed yet again. want to emphasise the sheer numbers in paris at the moment, emphasise the sheer numbers in paris at the moment , there is paris at the moment, there is several hundred easel, several hundred people from i don't want to call it the kurdish side because we don't know that's exactly yet. but from that
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elements of proceedings, massively outnumbering the police who are trying to tackle main, i suppose you could say, mark. yes. i mean, what will be the of the police in a public a situation like this is to try to contain this issue. they don't want it spreading out into others sectors of the city so got these relatively looking streets and the 10,000 dismount in central paris you've got a crowd of several hundred people not that many police at the moment, but to reinforce response will be on the way to central paris low and they hand them in they will to push forward to deal with those at the but you can see they're throwing everything anything off that they can find. i mean i've seen a couple traffic signs go flying london you would imagine
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a shot bits shopfronts as well , a shot bits shopfronts as well, constantly being thrown a series of volleys to where the police are mark the police are in front anyway. well, now in, fact, the shot that we've got there is a group of french police officers desperately trying to cover their heads because they do not pay their heads because they do not pay in so very protective gear when. the helmets, when. it comes to the helmets, just a couple of them. again, they're just not cowering, of course, , really taking course, hiding, really taking cover a better way of saying cover is a better way of saying it behind riot shields. a few more arriving there. now, mark, in terms the french police, they are, of course, used to terror attacks. they are used to civil as the police charge again to try to push back this crowd, tear in me. i think with it. try to push back this crowd, tear in me. i think with it . and tear in me. i think with it. and the french police don't tend to mess about in situations this which could make things a bit more volatile maybe. no, i think that's fair to that. they tend to have more robust response to their policing than the police here . the uk .
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their policing than the police here . the uk. but the their policing than the police here . the uk . but the police here. the uk. but the police here. the uk. but the police here in the uk , you know, they here in the uk, you know, they will ratchet up their their response given the violence that they face in paris often see, you know, the can wait in quite quickly with tear gas and pushing forward but it's very obvious to . see, and we're obvious to. see, and we're describing this, of course , for describing this, of course, for radio listeners as well from the pictures that we're seeing , the pictures that we're seeing, the police officers, the majority of them that are there are not wearing full protective gear . wearing full protective gear. and that's because they probably not the serious public of trained officers . they are more trained officers. they are more likely those officers that were there as part of the security operation responding to the attack this morning and then just having a sort of security and a reassurance presence in that area for the local population . well, now it's population. well, now it's turned violent . they have to turned violent. they have to very quickly some of them, because just like in this
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country, the vans will have riot shields . you can see some of the shields. you can see some of the officers because they're not pubuc officers because they're not public order officers as it seems they are the themselves suffering the effects of the teargas that some of their number have set off towards the protesters normally . they would protesters normally. they would be wearing the gas mask , protect be wearing the gas mask, protect themselves and that's what so quickly just to see the funds have shields and maybe helmets it's a matter of getting to them , getting the shields out, getting helmets and potentially the gas masks, some of them have been able to kit up to a degree, but as more specialist teams come in that are public trained, they will be in full kit and able to deal with the violence that they are clearly meet meeting them. yeah they are and. look given the context of what's taking place earlier on, ladies and gentlemen, if you are just us, three people were shot dead. four injured, believed to be four injured, two believed to be critically 69
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critically injured after a 69 year man was known to year old man who was known to police as, we understand, anyway, was known to police for previously offences previously violence offences involving migrants tents involving migrants in tents earlier on, about a year ago . earlier on, about a year ago. that particular gentleman, as we understand if you can call him a gentleman i suppose is police custody and it's worth noting in this context that that took place. it occurred community centre near bircotes centre. clearly, i mean just visibly what we can see here right now is the fact that most of the people in that crowd who are involved in this protest demonstration, whatever you want to call it, is turning to call it, really is turning violent . would it would it be violent. would it would it be reasonable to suspect they are from that community in, say, a more paris and indeed france in general, really? but does general, really? but paris does have of a chequered have a little bit of a chequered history it comes to race history when it comes to race relations in a very diverse city, isn't yeah. mean , city, isn't it? yeah. i mean, france in general, a very diverse country and there are increasing tensions in this , you increasing tensions in this, you know, with ethnic minorities and
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those communities and with everything that's happening in the channel with small boats . the channel with small boats. but actually, you know, take that up a few notches when in france they have some very significant problems with certain groups particularly down in marseilles but also in paris as well and as you can see, the cameraman their best to try to continue to feed us some live shots but it's very dangerous for them because they're coming under attack from missiles there's the tear gas that's being fired on members of the pubuc being fired on members of the public urging the rioters to stop as well and we have got a camera on both sides of now so we're getting footage . oh we're getting footage. oh goodness amazing showers flying and bits of shops being ripped off and there's no sign of this stopping projectiles being lobbed at police left, right and centre . the police tried to back centre. the police tried to back with tear gas. there's a police van , i believe it is, that we
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van, i believe it is, that we can see that is being absolutely pelted at the with various different as the police try to move through this. it's an incredibly chaotic situation rocks being thrown everything being thrown now at that police van and the police significant they outnumbered and with it would appear at the moment anyway a huge amount of protective tear gas. again being thrown in. there is no sign of this stopping time soon. no, no well, this was sort of spontaneous but they didn't they were geared up for a riot . they were geared up for a riot. they were geared up for a riot. they were geared up as normal police officers to offer reassurance after a terrible, deadly attack . but the anger of that crowd spilt over now into violence. now what viewers and for those radio listeners are seeing and they're hearing is tear gas. we are just seeing the restaurants , groups of angry young men picking up chairs and tables
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from the restaurant trying to smash them clearly with a view to lobbing them over towards the police . one point you were police. one point you were describing one of the ones that appeared to be stuck up the side street. yeah, yeah, that happens. i mean, this clearly a warren kind of narrow streets there just behind that van where a group of about half a dozen police officers with shields as the van moved they exposed the building came under attack. the van moved they exposed the building came under attack . they building came under attack. they were indeed . if you're just were indeed. if you're just joining us, this is paris now live images. live images from a riot taking in the 10th arrondissement of paris . riot taking in the 10th arrondissement of paris. this follows an incident involving three people being shot dead . it three people being shot dead. it currently stands anyway . the currently stands anyway. the latest on this is this change is four people injured, two people critically after a 69 year old man opened fire at kurdish community centre . it would community centre. it would appear now that members of the kurdish community or people in that area is reasonable to
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suggest us anyway , given what we suggest us anyway, given what we can see taking place in front of us now. the flags that are being waved to streets waved have taken to the streets in protest that they are in protest at that they are throwing projectiles en saying, ripping bits off shops. and i can see one chap who looks to be, it would appear anyway he stood in a bus stop brandishing a piece of wood rather aggressively. a police officer was grouping and trying to regroup. we can police have seen police anyway . various different police anyway. various different injuries . let's just turn volume injuries. let's just turn volume up now and we can listen to what we can see . the noise we can see. the noise overpower . the we can see. the noise overpower. the patrick because you can clearly see from the images that we're providing in these live camera shots from past agitators in trying to egg on other people to
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police pushing forward and i mean just momentarily then being pushed back by the crowd as those agitators are pushing back towards police, there is real potential for people to be very seriously injured here. this is going to get in front of the house. the statement police, it would appear from the that we can see anyway have almost been hemmed into a street tunnelled really it appear there's a huge amount of space for them to go as these are massing in front of them it is violence is aggressive and it's difficult to see how this this as a shop that with a chair again throwing it around the place lots of men pretty much old men from what we can see masks hats on hugs balaclavas . and this is clearly balaclavas. and this is clearly taking place rather a large section yes and there appears to be a fire breaking out now
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further down the street there is definitely a fire something has been set on in the middle of that street . and i think what we that street. and i think what we can see the camera window is almost the border between the police and these protesters. it looks as though it's to the side of vehicle. it may be the vehicle itself off or it could be, you know, they've got these big in the streets as well. there are marches here to set fire to. but the real concern here is that you see a situation similar to the situation we had in tottenham in 11 i think it was after the death of mark duggan where you have angry scenes of spill—over into violence and, then real violence because . what you get is because. what you get is buildings , vehicles set on no. buildings, vehicles set on no. if that's what we're descending into here then. that is very, very clearly for french authorities and for people in
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community. remember that this , community. remember that this, we think, is a predominantly community. it's their shops and businesses at the end of the day that are going to be targeted by, you know, many perhaps from their own community, but the fact is and understood undoubtedly those great of anger in this community this morning after this shooting resulted in the deaths of three people and more than four others injured , more than four others injured, two of them critically, and it doesn't take much to spark a violent response as you just need a few agitators and we can see one is from the shots are playing to people taking up that particular duty of trying to push people along and what we can see now describe to you a little bit earlier on about a fire that just erupted in the middle of the street. and from the images that we're getting anyway, it appears like a cluster of benz debris.
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realistically been thrown realistically been been thrown at off at police has been ripped off shop fronts and that is now in the of the road and is on the middle of the road and is on fire, which creates a permanent barrier, a blockage, anyway, between police. the police had been trying to push these people back more and more things are being thrown on to this fire now. and in fact, it's turned into a full barricade. i can see massed up in bins looking for soldiers , but it is being led by soldiers, but it is being led by seeing this crowd, certainly not getting any smaller, not before. don't get any . you can hear the don't get any. you can hear the whistles in, the background that just to give you a scale about quickly this is escalating. we were reporting probably around 15 the latest 15 minutes ago that the latest on this was that a 69 year old man had been arrested after three people have been shot dead, four injured, two critically in a kurdish community centre in the 10th arrondissement of paris. that man previous to police for man previous known to police for offences against migrants and then quick as a flash after that we started getting it through to us that this is nasty but us here that this is nasty but it's turned into it wasn't even
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nasty of course is already nasty. i mean it was a terrible attack now turned into attack but now it's turned into riots getting angles riots and we're getting angles had previously been getting going it i say from both sides this so we had it from the police side so behind the police as they mass and then the protesters side what we can gather now anyway appear to have it pretty much from the protesters but two different camera angles which implies that the boundaries have moved somewhat. people rubbing their eyes, people screaming with tears and tears coming from the tears and tears coming from the tear gas melting . mentioned tear gas melting. mentioned earlier that the police were so significantly outnumbered it was going to have to regroup. it was to have to get reinforcements . to have to get reinforcements. that appears to be happening. i have not seen a police officer for little while now because for a little while now because they clearly holding a line further line and further down the line and instead made instead what this has made possible is for a big fight. so a bit of history on hold so people now actually we can see the rioters the protesters the rioters coming forward even beyond that line throwing projectiles as they go about. yeah it's those
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agitators again at the front that are trying cajole signal others the main group and body to push further down towards the police this is very dangerous for those camera that are out there as well . the news agencies there as well. the news agencies reuters , associated press and reuters, associated press and others who are providing these live , you know, sometimes you're live, you know, sometimes you're in the middle of this. these pubuc in the middle of this. these public order situations on that crowd. they may ignore you and then the next second they can turn on you. so you know, some pretty brave work by the camera crews that able to offer us some live footage now what i haven't seen what we haven't been to see just by virtue of the fact the camera doesn't appear to be near any of the police lines , is what any of the police lines, is what activity is going with the police at the moment they will be expanding their numbers. it
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will take officers additional time because . they will be in time because. they will be in all parts of paris to get to that location . then they've got that location. then they've got to decide exactly where they are with going, what they're doing. shopkeepers there desperately trying to get all of their stock inside, trying to make sure none of it can be damaged . inside, trying to make sure none of it can be damaged. i inside, trying to make sure none of it can be damaged . i suppose of it can be damaged. i suppose all taken and used it projects . all taken and used it projects. what we're seeing now is because this is the 10th arrondissement in paris, way, those in paris, by the way, those governments as follows shopping districts, large kurdish districts, a large kurdish community area, and it is believed to be in the amex kayak centre . so it's the a kurdish centre. so it's the a kurdish centre. so it's the a kurdish centre in the 10th arrondissement in paris. centre in the 10th arrondissement in paris . and arrondissement in paris. and what we're seeing there is shopkeepers, people in previous age just a matter of hours ago that would have been going about the normal lives, going about normal a couple normal day a couple of days before can see before christmas. you can see various christmas various different christmas decorations in some parts of the area french flags rather at area that french flags rather at this particular moment in time other flags as well we're trying to exactly they to decipher exactly what they are and the hammer in the circle
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on. one of them now just has descended into cars . it's fair descended into cars. it's fair to say that a full scale violent riot is currently taking place on the streets of paris. yeah, we'll have to see how it develops. but certainly, you know, people just victory in the air. they clearly feel that they have the streets or at least this particular street . are they this particular street. are they in reality all it means is that the police have pulled a bit to an area not immediately near those protesters. they may think they have the streets of the moment , but they have the streets of the moment, but that could change in an instant if police get sufficient numbers to push forward. because as i, say, you know, the french police , the know, the french police, the riot police , the crc in are , you riot police, the crc in are, you know, pretty robust in tactics they use to gain control of a situation. yeah and the police did have a presence . it's did have a presence. it's important to emphasise how quickly this all kicked off. the police had a presence. they had
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a presence, namely because they were already as a result of the fact that there'd been a shooting earlier on, that. but the these people gathered, shooting earlier on, that. but th all these people gathered, shooting earlier on, that. but thall happened people gathered, shooting earlier on, that. but thall happened soople gathered, shooting earlier on, that. but thall happened so quickly hered, shooting earlier on, that. but thall happened so quickly .ered, shooting earlier on, that. but thall happened so quickly . what it all happened so quickly. what we was police we were witnessing was police officers along a road lobbing projectiles at them, tear gas . projectiles at them, tear gas. and the police went away , and the police went away, regrouped. and what we're just seeing now , the first time in seeing now, the first time in a while, actually to the right of people shops, if you're watching on television all police having regrouped and a complete volley of tear gas, more running in. now, it appears to me mark as though that what they're carrying there is, you would know better than i do . they're know better than i do. they're wearing helmets now, which they will and that's will before, and that's important. towards important. they charging towards where middle of where that fire in the middle of the they've got their the street, they've got their blockade them. it blockade with them. and it appears to me they're either armed what would appear armed with what would appear to be and the smoke be the tear gas and the smoke carrying tear gas launchers on there. yeah, they are they are kitted out. and as you saw, half a dozen tear gas canisters that
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were lobbed towards that that were lobbed towards that that were sort of moving down towards them that will push the back, them that will push the back, the for the tear gas to and then they'll probably push forward again back down towards the police now see police if it in the uk they'd be happy to sort of contain the situation hold that effectively those that are involved shelved in the worst of this violence they start to calm down and then disperse . that down and then disperse. that might happen in might not they certainly look as though their blood up in terms of those who want to carry out a you know, a violent response to. what the police are doing here, it's important, say as well, now that we appear to have regained camera footage from both sides of this particular riot. so we have footage as can see now right behind those police officers on the very front line and then the other side and this
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is why the protesters are it's in, as we understand, the only way the kurdish area, the kurdish is, you can call it, of this city. we're hearing a lot of banging. i'm just going to ask you if we can just turn the up very slightly. i'm not sure if we can that we'll repeat the line of what we're getting in feet as the police charge. now police, fire in the street, which started as a barrier in. the crowd dispersed by police forces , the volley of us that forces, the volley of us that was fire, as it were, with tear gas throwing tear gas. the police certainly back football, but i mean, this camera is round the corner where the main body of protesters are a street. here we're looking to the left side . we're looking to the left side. the protesters, i can see it better from this angle, from the right side bonfires . and now the right side bonfires. and now the cameras switched to that other side. it keeps switching back and forwards, but you can see
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right up there, lots and lots of tear gas . and for those police tear gas. and for those police officers that are not fully equipped, they don't have a gas mask. and the like it's going to be uncomfortable for them, for people out on the streets, in time. comfortable, you can see a smashed up car there right next to with i mean bonfires and then i think that's a good formula for trying to get one or two snaps. and clearly in the line up. i mean a word by the way, just a word for the brave men and women who are holding the cameras in a moment is showing you the carnage on that street. now, the us the devastation on that street in paris just this day. i mean, the car windows smashed in completely , cars smashed in completely, cars destroyed, a fire in the middle of the street shop, windows shop fronts. absolutely battered and bombarded. and this is the where just moments ago , if you've been just moments ago, if you've been tuning into a while now , will tuning into a while now, will see there were crowds of people on the street protesters who'd set up a barricade and a fine.
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now, this is interesting because it gives you an idea of exactly how fast moving event is just remember this is in the middle of paris the 10th arrondissement of paris the 10th arrondissement of paris the 10th arrondissement of paris not very sensitive 10th arrondissement of paris. and it is course a normal city. so imagine taking place right in the middle of manchester, liverpool london, etc, moving from street to street and we can hear rather ominously some loud taking place. i that's probably the tear gas display tear gas launchers more tear gas runs up towards protesters. i don't know about being this was a civilian or possibly a police vehicle they have lots of unmarked police vehicles that they would be using as well. but it's come under attack with the back windows that have been out by the protesters . as you see, the protesters. as you see, patrick, who were down this street, have retreated further back up the camera , that
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back up the camera, that position at least isn't able to give us an indication as to where these people have gone but they won't be far away. there was a fear few in that crowd a good few hundred people who were there initially. now it may be that they've decided move on to a different area or to disperse because . clearly, if the police because. clearly, if the police had turned out in significant numbers and are able to get to various around the core of where this violence then the protesters unnecessary they want to be hemmed in and potentially the subject of a response and pushback from the police. yeah, they are definitely pushed back. i mean, the concern is of course, they're just being pushed around a bit in that sense as rounds around the streets dispersing and it is such a fast moving picture ladies and gentlemen. but when this initially there was a handful of police officers and not one i was saying here i think he was going get very
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nasty very quickly. it has nasty. now what we can see is this is now clearly moving throughout time period as. people running through the people are running through the street. civilians street. now, this civilians potentially people involved in the riot , clutching their eyes the riot, clutching their eyes in their faces the tear gas having an effect and it's just important to remember as well to remind ourselves exactly where and there was and how all started. there was a mass shooting earlier on today and that saw three people die, four injured, two critically. that's the latest is we it we'll give you updates on that as and when we it from a 69 year old man who had previous so when it comes to migrants attacking anti migrants attack this is now out across various different streets sicily. it was originally it would appear hemmed in so one cattle there and now it is spreading out. i am looking at footage from french and she's on social media, french media and. what i was able to see earlier on was a police van pulled up down the street i'm being absolutely powerless it to the
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point where it had to stop and the police officers inside it getting out and making making away as it were, making mark this is certainly not going to stop any time despite the fact the police have regrouped . yeah, the police have regrouped. yeah, i mean, and there's no doubt there injured police officers , there injured police officers, patrick, because we saw them on the footage a little earlier because this happened. so spontaneously , it took the spontaneously, it took the police by surprise . they weren't police by surprise. they weren't there in a capacity of public order. they were there responding to what had been a terrible shooting attack . and in terrible shooting attack. and in the aftermath that they were there, of course, to help reassure the population . but reassure the population. but it's clear people in that area were very angry at what had happened and it only takes a few agitators in the crowd to whip up a crowd and not clearly happened because the to the
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crowd them where that crowd has gone at the moment we're not quite sure from this angle we can still see the bonfire farther up the street but it seems to be cleared the several hundred protesters who were there . yeah and i'm just getting there. yeah and i'm just getting some more information through . some more information through. and jerrold domain who as as i can tell is from the french minister their equivalent of the home secretary. he said that the suspect now this is in the shooting took place earlier this suspect was a shooter in a sports club he says he had declared many weapons . he declared many weapons. he clearly had multiple different weapons response to that shooting . the police were then shooting. the police were then instructed go to reinforce very different kurdish area kurdish centres, shops community centres . and in response to that , . and in response to that, clearly a lot of anger in that community, not least perhaps because the individual, the 69 year old man who was arrested in
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connection the shooting at that kurdish cultural or sports centre , depending on which centre, depending on which report you read , was known to report you read, was known to police . and he had a prior police. and he had a prior police. and he had a prior police , including an arrest police, including an arrest attacking migrants living in tents a year . attacking migrants living in tents a year. now these are shots from earlier mark and this was just as the police it seems like a long time ago this wasn't necessarily half an hour or so ago, isn't it? yeah, that was police responding to the initial shooting incident that happened by lunchtime today. you see those armed officers, firearms officers from the well, i mean, all french police are armed, but most of them would routinely carry a handgun. but those are clearly more specialist firearms officers . and as you see, officers. and as you see, additional police were brought in as an act of reassurance to the community because any community having suffered an attack like this is going to be
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quite rightly very concerned. so just as you would see after terrorist attack here in uk or anywhere else, addition all security personnel are brought in to give people reassurance, to make sure there aren't any copycat attacks or any other people link to the initial attack that might be and prepared to something similar. so always see that after, but the difficulty with putting a lot of police in to an area where you have a lot of angry people is they can they can really be the target for i like live shots now live box the live shots of what appears to be well it's a row is a complete you know it's a concourse of blue lights whether they're ambulances or police arc de triomphe is it that is the art. i mean, actually, this is quite an iconic image, mark, to be honest with you, because that is the arc de triomphe . and just the arc de triomphe. and just either side of it have a riot taking and then you have a
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police officer . you see the line police officer. you see the line that i was about the need to get as many . all right just to as many. all right just to confirm that's not the arc de triomphe. apologies getting we're we're getting a lot of fast moving images i'm sure you can bear with us. don't worry, but carry on, mark. yeah lots of beautiful arches in paris . you beautiful arches in paris. you ever to visit, but you can. ever want to visit, but you can. you can see actually just don't pass star and i'll describe it for radio listeners is just a row of police vans blue lights flash some not with the flashing but probably a dozen vans at least because what what has been happening over the last 40 minutes or so as those officers who find themselves under attack from this crowd have been calling for assist and some help from their colleagues . so they from their colleagues. so they will have been coming from all parts paris to come and to help in this area in the are on these
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months so the 10th district of paris that vehicle they're just coming in to shot is a paramedic vehicle from the la pompe here's the french fire and rescue service. unlike in this country, the fire service france also provide paramedic services . so provide paramedic services. so that's one of that paramedic vehicles . they were their vehicles. they were their insignia . again, numbers earlier insignia. again, numbers earlier today as well, helping out at these the site of the earlier shooting attack. another being called back in to this area with absolutely no doubt all that there will be people who have been injured. we saw it in some of the images , police officers of the images, police officers who'd come under a hail of attack from a hail of missiles. some of them were injured, clutching their heads . there clutching their heads. there will also be those civilians caught up in who will be suffering from the effects of tear gas. as we've seen many
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volleys of tear gas, no launched by the french police . yeah, by the french police. yeah, indeed. now it's worth that. we have had a variety of different camera shots, the one that we all fixed on at the moment appears to show a group of people. i mean , hard for me to people. i mean, hard for me to quantify, at least dozen, at least a dozen probably in their twenties actually , emergency twenties actually, emergency vehicles, all with the blue on. and this is just at the spot or behind this spot where full scale riots broke out a little bit earlier on. now not sure if we have any other camera shots. well, just to maybe move around , we're going to stick with this one for the moment. we're going to stick this one for the moment . now is a fast moving everybody who's been watching and listening. it started . earlier listening. it started. earlier on today, a couple of hours ago, a few hours ago, where three people were shot dead, four people were shot dead, four people injured, two critically by a 69 year old man who was known to authorities. he basically took a firearm, believed potentially be believed potentially to be numerous actually into numerous firearms, actually into a cultural centre . like
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a kurdish cultural centre. like i said, three people that that man was known to police for a previous offence involving an immigration attack, an anti migrant attack , a group of migrant attack, a group of migrants who were living in tents in the city was known to authorities. the police were then sent to bolster security that area. and that is when the local community that people who were out on the streets people who live there people who were maybe witness to that particular initial attack took it upon themselves to kick and we saw projectiles at police had fires in the streets and certainly for a very long period of time it looked as though it was going to get incredibly, incredibly nasty because police officers had next no protective gear. back no protective gear. we're back now the middle of the now live in the middle of the street it appears crews street and it appears fire crews have to put out have just arrived to put out that i was talking about. that fire. i was talking about. crowds have been pushed back. you see people milling you still see people milling around, nowhere near around, but it is nowhere near as that specific of as volatile in that specific of the area as it once the emergency services now no longer outnumber it would appear. no,
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you cannot absolutely see from the images , though. they're not the images, though. they're not numbered . this particular with numbered. this particular with the dozens of police vans there andifs the dozens of police vans there and it's a good sign that the fire service have been able to get in and to extinguish that blaze in the middle of the street because clearly that indicates that that street, at least is now safe enough for them to operate , which means them to operate, which means that whoever was there of disperse. now, whether they've gone to another area where the cameras are not yet we don't know . and we don't know if these know. and we don't know if these are still live images or not. well well, yeah , they are, as we well well, yeah, they are, as we understand it. and we're just witnessing the fact that just behind the scenes the police officers now armed with batons , officers now armed with batons, with shields , with masks have on with shields, with masks have on to a variety of different streets and back street . and it streets and back street. and it appears that arrests are being made early on we brought you
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live images from agitators in amongst a large group in the hundreds of people who were throwing projectiles at police. i was just going to bring in now just you'll only hear his voice because we're going to stay with these live former border force chief kevin saunders and where attack happened is apparently very to the immigration offices for the uk. apparently kevin, can you just bring us up to date what you know regarding that please. as we play people, the ongoing unfolding pictures from paris. take it away, correct? yeah. hello this isn't very far from golden. all the french railway station where you okay? border force officers are based . so i would imagine that there some concern amongst my former colleagues about what's going on. however looking at the pictures that you've got the french aren't taking this down.
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they've got their sars officers that they've got on the streets. the french riot police . so i've the french riot police. so i've actually been to french police headquarters in paris. actually been to french police headquarters in paris . and when headquarters in paris. and when something like this kicks off, they're very well organised side, you know, somebody pushes the red button on off , they go the red button on off, they go en masse . so i mean kevin , en masse. so i mean kevin, kevin, you were saying that this is now near the guard. you know, we were to place exactly where this was near the guard, you know, in paris, which is course the major arterial roads in and out of the capital, the french caphal out of the capital, the french capital. and well, kevin, just emphasise to us do you think there might be some concern for uk border staff who are based, is that right? well mean this is a very away so i would imagine that there is concern there on kevin point all out i don't i yeah kevin this is by no means
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the first incident similar unfortunately to this that paris you see paris is a volatile place when it comes to race kevin oh yeah. very, very much so much so . a lot of migrants so much so. a lot of migrants said a lot of this area is you're quite it's predominantly kurdish migrants there and. they do get worked fairly easily, although this is an awful an awful event . but i mean, i have awful event. but i mean, i have awful event. but i mean, i have a lot of faith in the french police, i think will get on top of this very quickly and you'll mark is right the pompeii of their but also the french services is the samu and samu are as well so there are doctors out there on the streets as well so there must some some feral
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injuries for the doctors to be called out as well . yeah indeed called out as well. yeah indeed . and we do have numerous different of this when it first kicks off. we have trucks on both sides as you from behind the barricades and we heard as well from rioters side currently the shot that have right now is i don't actually what we're witnessing at the minute is some of those emergency vehicles on the move there's a column of emergency vehicles all the blue lights on who would flooded to that see it's important now i think as well to say that it does appear if that what was almost one large block people has dispersed is a bit from what we can see and not surprising given the sheer volume of french emergency services who have descended there right . difficult descended there right. difficult to tell exactly what they're doing, but clearly, as kevin was saying, mark, i'll bring you back in. my homeland security editor is me in the studio right now. the french have well—trodden probes call when it
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comes to dealing with situations pretty much just like there's riots basically. yeah the as far as the police are concerned you can see the positioning and possibly weapons you know so i don't we can go as far as to say that hundreds of people dispersed. it may that they've just moved on but you know it's possible that they have decided that you know, they've made point and they want to go yeah but it may well we're only seeing the one camera angle of the moment. they're in a fixed position . wow. there certainly position. wow. there certainly were all of the police riot vans, the vehicles , but they're vans, the vehicles, but they're not crucially where any of the officers are in terms their front line facing or pushing forward . yeah. so it's not forward. yeah. so it's not really giving this an accurate picture of where anybody might
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still be . now, i've just had an still be. now, i've just had an update . this is from french update. this is from french media. this is the prosecutor for the republic , paris la berko for the republic, paris la berko nobuko, who has confirmed that three people have died. we knew that already that was in the initial shooting. what he said is that person is in a state is that one person is in a state of, as he said, absolute emergency. can take emergency. think we can take that mean very critical that to mean a very critical condition, in a critical condition, too, in a critical condition. so the defendant is injured. so the shooter , alleged injured. so the shooter, alleged shooter is injured , including an shooter is injured, including an injury to his face the police have now and this is according to french media will wait for this to be confirmed. i'm just reading what i've got here on french media, which is the police are believed to have opened terrorism case as the opened a terrorism case as the investigation into shooting investigation into the shooting . we've said, the shooter . and as we've said, the shooter is believed to have been previously arrested. more than a year ago for attacking a migrant with a sword and. new details here. he is only to have been released from prison recently .
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released from prison recently. yes. and the police have confirmed now that several people have been injured in these clashes. but we saw that last game when we saw that taking place, the suspect was known to police. he was known to intelligence services. and mark, this possibly why local is this possibly why the local is so they will feel like the so angry they will feel like the french police have maybe dropped ball. well, i think from what i was to glean earlier from paris there was some real about why this individual had been released after seemingly such a short period in prison. now whether he was released on bail pending a trial whether he was released on bail pending atrial, if that's the pending a trial, if that's the case, then you understand why some people might be angry, because clearly with the events have transpired, you have a dangerous individual who attacked a camp with a sword , attacked a camp with a sword, who was in custody for a while, was then released either having
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served very short prison term or released on bail pending , a released on bail pending, a trial that will clearly have to be in the fullness time properly exposed . as but when you have exposed. as but when you have a community who have been attacked in this way and they're angry , in this way and they're angry, suspicious, and they're often very suspicious of the authorities those, then clearly things and revelations this have the capacity for stoking even more anger. we know that our equivalent of the home secretary the french interior minister was in this district of paris giving a news conference giving some of these details and that will have been overseen quite a number of people who were out there on the streets as well as to see what's crucial now for us to try and find out as as we go forward. patrick is whether that crowd of very violent people , not all of very violent people, not all of them of some people were just to
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see what was going and got caught up in it. but there were certainly some very violent people in there. we saw a hail of missiles. anything you could pick up being thrown towards the police and injuring some police officers, half they actually dispersed and, decided to call it a day or they just moved on to another district that we are not able to bring you live footage . the still silence footage. the still silence survived activity there. yes sirens absolutely blaring and we did have initially anyway camera men and women probably who were on both sides of this . the on both sides of this. the situation is progressed now . we situation is progressed now. we have a column of emergency vehicles descended onto the scene. there is near the garden or in paris in the tent around a small amount has been arrested. a 69 year old man previously known to police, as we said, three people died in that incident. the french interior minister said that he is believed to have had multiple weapons with him and four others
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have been injured, at least of them is in an incredibly critical again, that's according to french authorities . and we to french authorities. and we will bring you the latest as when this unfolds . we're going when this unfolds. we're going to look at a couple of shots from earlier. now, this was just after shooting, and it's believed to sacrifice either a kurdish cultural centre or kurdish cultural centre or kurdish sports centre. it depends exactly which translation as opposed to use from the french reports about cultural centres , one that we're cultural centres, one that we're going anyway. and going with anyway. and what we're seeing here is now the french police moved in. this was early on in the day that sparked riots as more police were sent in to actually help to try to secure the area. and those police initially were taking an absolute pummelling from crowd that there were clearly calls on the top. the protesters waving flags, chanting , the top. the protesters waving flags, chanting, ripping up shop , started a fire in the of the street. the police kind of retreated in a way regrouped and came back with a vengeance and culminated in where we are right
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. and we will endeavour to try find you some more images from a slightly different angle. but the latest ones we've got at the moment and by the way, certainly earlier signs of earlier it showed signs of really slowing down. big really slowing down. but the big change is the that there is a column of emergency services now a of emergency services a column of emergency services are kind barricaded off, are kind of barricaded off, actually a little of all actually a little bit of all shot. actually a little bit of all shot . but this does not mean the shot. but this does not mean the action isn't still taking place down that road. and we suspect probably is because . there was a probably is because. there was a huge number of people and there's night time falls in paris as well. i would expect that there all going to be many members of the authorities might want it? we're going to get a particularly good night's sleep. now, real concerns now, one of the real concerns that always have in that authorities always have in the a terrorist the aftermath of a terrorist attack is the potential for community violence , that the community violence, that the local are going to react badly to what has happened here. and thatis to what has happened here. and that is certainly one of the main concerns they had in paris.
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yeah absolutely. okay very shortly we're going to be speaking to former metropolitan police officer peter blakeslee. we're just getting him on the line right now to just about this riot control on crowd control. mark so just on this issue , the potential for issue, the potential for violence and what the concern you've seen course the reaction when you get islamist terrorist attacks in european cities quite often what will happen is that calmer hands are out there and it turns into a vigil and candles of people reflect and it doesn't turn tend to be an angry affair but is always potential in this instance this has been clearly an angry affair that perhaps has been stoked up by a few we saw those individual as they're jumping on cars , they're jumping on cars, shouting to people to push forward and to throw things toward the police. and the real
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concern that the authorities will have with this happening is the last thing they want , the last thing they want, especially in france , where especially in france, where they've had proper in the past between different races and communities. the tone one race rights to take grip of paris or indeed other areas in this city. we're hearing some worrying reports now patrick that there may be some disturbances that have broken out in marseilles as well, which has very ethnically diverse population , often the diverse population, often the scene of trouble and some reports of trouble has flared in marseilles as well. so the french authorities be desperately hoping , you know, desperately hoping, you know, whatever happened may have dissipated that they can get a lid on it, that this doesn't spread and become more sustained campaign of violence against the authorities . yeah, absolutely . authorities. yeah, absolutely. and you're right, mark, they're
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already coming through. we're not going to elaborate this right now. i'm not going to elaborate on this right. because these are just reports. we don't want make sure that do want to make sure that what do want to make sure that what do want get any wrong? obviously want to make sure that what do wan yes,get any wrong? obviously want to make sure that what do wan yes, there |y wrong? obviously want to make sure that what do wan yes, there are rong? obviously want to make sure that what do wan yes, there are increasing ously but yes, there are increasing numbers of people, albeit either on social media or on french media, actually reporting seeing any way that incidents may have also broken in marseilles. i'll leave it there . the marseilles leave it there. the marseilles angle for the moment, because we don't know that for sure at the minute. and that's not confirmed. and i want to make sure that's all shored up before we on it but while we elaborate on it but while holmes home who joins me holmes to home who joins me throughout, he be keeping throughout, he will be keeping a very eye that, if very close eye on that, if indeedit very close eye on that, if indeed it is the case. that's the kurdish community in this area who have suffered very tragically the loss it would anyway of at least three members of local community, four of that local community, four others , at least one others injured, at least one incredibly critically , according incredibly critically, according to french police groundswell of sentiment, anger really that community, they feel as though the suspected of this shooting.
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and it's important, again to , and it's important, again to, say there is only one suspect in this shooting. it's pretty clear that the french authorities are absolutely they've got absolutely confident they've got the who did it. they saying that he chap who was arrested he was a chap who was arrested previously and served a prison sentence previously will serve in for attacking in prison anyway for attacking with an assault of some migrants who were in a tent in the city. we know that given the migrant status in france at the moment that there are these areas migrants live in tents the city around paris there was an attack that took place there . they that took place there. they clearly feel as though what was in doubt were particularly well. he was back out on the streets and then this has happened and potentially then you can see if this has ability kick start this has the ability kick start a events if there is an a chain events if there is an under current of feeling ill feeling amongst various different communities right across france. this may be could well be a catalyst for that to erupt hearing reports is it was said earlier that about a potential incident taking place in marseilles as well what we're
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going to do is we're going to just take a quick break in a second while we'll stay in the studio with me here, have a security ed. we will stay locked on these images. we'll abreast of it all. and when we back, we'll also have peter black slate, a former metropolitan police officer . if you're just police officer. if you're just joining before our joining us quickly before our throats large scale throats break, a large scale violent riot in the middle , violent riot in the middle, paris, at least three people died previously in shooting four injured, two christian, a 69 year old man arrested in response to that shooting. it is believed be an anti migrant attack. we'll go to break. when we come back, we'll have more .
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hello welcome back. i'm bethany elsey with . your top stories elsey with. your top stories from the gb newsroom protests have erupted at the scene of a shooting which left three people dead at a kurdish culture centre in paris . dead at a kurdish culture centre in paris. it's been confirmed those who were killed from the kurdish community. live pictures show violent demonstrators taking place right now with clashes against police. a 69 year old suspect has been detained by police in connection with the attack, according to french media, the suspect was known to police allegedly attacked a migrant camp last year. attacked a migrant camp last year . the health secretary's year. the health secretary's call, the newly announced strikes by nurses on the 18th and 19th of january disappoint fighting and says in no one's best interests, the royal college of nursing says the walkouts will go ahead the government opens negotiate over pay- government opens negotiate over pay. meanwhile jambos called off a post—christmas by ambulance
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patrick okay, let's just meet you. join me in the middle of a very fast moving breaking situation in paris will endeavour to give you the latest before anybody else. throughout the show , i've been throughout the show, i've been following these violent clashes between. kurdish between. the police and kurdish protesters , frankly, it started protesters, frankly, it started after an individual, a 69 year old man is believed to have shot and killed three people. live pictures is you're seeing now is night descends paris on as we witnessed earlier anyway police arresting a 16 year old man. he's beaten, shot and killed three people. another person in critical condition. the man has received a significant injury to his face, as we understand it. he remains in police custody and in hospital. he was only recently released police custody after attack using a sword on after an attack using a sword on after an attack using a sword on a migrant tent in paris as well
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. and what we are witnessing at the moment , footage, the police the moment, footage, the police descending that area there was full blown taking place, violent riots initially outnumbered. it looked as , though, it was going looked as, though, it was going to get incredibly nasty indeed. and what is concerning now, ladies and gentlemen, again, is that appears to me from this that it appears to me from this footage we're witnessing footage that we're witnessing right there are banks right now. yes there are banks and banks and banks and police. but potentially on but potentially just on the other street, the crowds other of the street, the crowds gathering again. so we had an initial incident where there was of kurdish people believed to be kurdish people at the incident took place in a kurdish area, a kurdish community centre gathered outnumbering the police. the then withdrew and regrouped and back and the crowd dispersed . it appears to me dispersed. it appears to me anyway, from what i'm seeing and i've just seen when they upon round that now both crowd and the police are rather large number. let's just get an idea of how difficult it is to police the situation. a bit like this with police officers . steve with police officers. steve roberts, steve jones, me down line. we're going to stick with
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these live images. so will just be hearing steve's voice. but steve thank very much for joining us. we're obviously reacting this this news comes reacting this as this news comes in, but how difficult it to in, but how difficult is it to police situation like this so police a situation like this so fast so violent and the fast moving so violent and the potential for it to kick right off ? it's very difficult indeed. off? it's very difficult indeed. and it's particularly difficult in these stages where the police service doesn't quite know what it's dealing with but needs to muster a large number of officers in order to neutralise any violence that's going on. but at the same time, they've got to be very careful not to provoke even greater violence. but as night falls, they be able to establish what the position is and hopefully get in touch with some community intervene as people from the kurdish community who can talk to their own and try and calm the situation down before it spirals out of control . yeah. and steve, out of control. yeah. and steve, i'm witnessing in front of me here, people won't be seeing these on the screen because this
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is, like i said it's such a fast moving situation but it's footage earlier on which is actually a lot of people in that crowd of, protesters, rioters who out, the police who really went out, the police , they really charged out them , , they really charged out them, hurling projectiles at i can see police officers injured some quite actually injured . and is quite actually injured. and is it important that police do not let their emotions get to them in these situations? because presumably you see your colleagues lying on the floor in a pool, blood. it's easy for you to lose your cool and that might escalate the situation even more. absolutely it's absolutely vital that the police don't do anything which makes the situation worse , provokes more situation worse, provokes more violence . that job there is to violence. that job there is to keep their heads and, to tamp down violence, to try and separate those people who are trying to make trouble from the many other people who will simply be caught in the same situation and actually want to get away and not be problem to
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try and funnel people away and to try concentrate their police strength they have got on those few people who are actually making trouble. but yes , course, making trouble. but yes, course, it's very provoque got people throwing bricks, petrol bombs, whatever at you and it's very when you see your colleagues being . but when you see your colleagues being. but the when you see your colleagues being . but the job of the being. but the job of the officers is to try and make sure that people are safe, that property is safe and that the pubuc property is safe and that the public are allowed to demonstrate their outrage at this appalling situation . but this appalling situation. but not allowed create more violence. and stephen added to this this isn't you know, football fans versus , police or football fans versus, police or one of those incidents there is quite clearly a racial element to this the attack itself that initially kick started this is unequivocally according to french authorities , that it's a french authorities, that it's a racist attack. it targeting. they said it wasn't deliberately targeting the kurdish community immigrants in general. either i think we're splitting hairs at this point , steve. it's there is
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this point, steve. it's there is a undertone to this and does that make it even more difficult to . yes indeed it does. to. yes indeed it does. inter—community violence is always very difficult to police , particularly in the case and i think this is so in paris at the moment where the victim community if you like already has quite tense relationships with the police service so this requires cool heads on, all sides if fewer people are to end up being injured and you know, hopefully no people being killed. yeah. now steve, i'm just going to hand you over why i am a security editor, joins me now very shortly. ladies and gentlemen, we're going to go to a french who's in and a french who's been in and around but marc, take around this, but marc, take it away after this steve. i was just going to ask you about the comparison, that french comparison, the way that french pubuc comparison, the way that french public officers , police, these public officers, police, these types events. and it wasn't a pubuc types events. and it wasn't a public order event to begin with, but there was big large
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crowds there had to local reporters there about complete signs that the police had been a bit heavy handed. now we know that the french police be a bit robust in comparison to the british police. does that ring true you . it's not really news true you. it's not really news to say that the police in france are quicker and readier resort to using weapons. are quicker and readier resort to using weapons . they are to using weapons. they are better physically themselves, but they are far more heavily equipped with tear gas. with baton rounds and it's just simply differently in tradition to what we have in the uk and we've seen the results of that many many years and sorts of different public situations in paris . it's not so very long ago paris. it's not so very long ago that we could see rioters in the chandeliers, a battling police,
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the so—called yellow vest protests would require cool heads on all sides to try and ensure, as people as possible are injured . was a very are injured. was a very pertinent . on the requirement pertinent. on the requirement for cool heads. how concerned are you in you know france is no street and you are really sadly to raise riots of the events in the tent r and d small paris spreading to other parts paris other towns , cities in france. other towns, cities in france. we've heard about some disturbances not confirmed as yet from marseilles in the south. thankfully . stay lost, south. thankfully. stay lost, steve. unfortunately. there we go. but that was steve roberts, whom i would try, i'm sure would have been concerned. i'm sure. i'm he would have been i'm sure he would have been concerned. shortly anyway, i'm sure he would have been conce going shortly anyway, i'm sure he would have been conce going to shortly anyway, i'm sure he would have been conce going to be hortly anyway, i'm sure he would have been conce going to be hopefully way, we're going to be hopefully anyway you french
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anyway bringing you french journalist will be able to put this apart. but i believe we can. back to steve actually, steve roberts , who is a former steve roberts, who is a former met police officer, is filling you in on exactly how police deal with things. and deal with these things. and i think mark was just asking you that, about the fact the that, steve, about the fact the look, unconfirmed reports at the steve unconfirmed want steve unconfirmed reports want stress least stress that but at least rumblings that there's been an incident marseilles as well . incident marseilles as well. steve what is the potential for this to maybe have a ripple effect across france that tragically we've seen this all too often the outer suburbs of paris can be triggered into violence remarkably easily. it's not just a matter of demonstrations and violence in the centre of paris and right across provincial france . there across provincial france. there always seems to be a potential for a trigger event to take place and for disenfranchised communities right across the country to spark into violence. and that's something that will be very much in minds of the
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french public order and security officials and the politicians who lead them . look, see. thank who lead them. look, see. thank you very much for that steve roberts, that former officer now white was. just show me something that's just dropped. i believe. interestingly, this is france 24 saying that members of , the kurdish community in paris have told reports is that they had recently been warned by police of threats to kurdish areas . the police of threats to kurdish areas. the kurdish community could be the target for attacks . and some real concern amongst people within the kurdish community that they were not properly protect too. so that may be one of the reasons why you're seeing angry scenes from those gathering in this kurdish area of central and the live images that you're seeing now of police officers and other members of different emergency services trying to put out fires that are taking place there in response to , well, the police
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response to, well, the police and crowds battle pretty much with each other. let's go now to paris based journalist david chazan , who is in paris for us chazan, who is in paris for us at the moment. david going to keep the images on the screen of the events unfolding on the street. but david, what's the latest from where you are ? well, latest from where you are? well, the latest , obviously, in these the latest, obviously, in these clashes between , kurdish clashes between, kurdish demonstrators and the police . demonstrators and the police. and according to what we've been heanng and according to what we've been hearing witnesses and from the french media, what seems to have triggered the violence was when the french interior zero down by now arrived to the scene and then the threw up a cordon protect him from any possible trouble and that's when the started throwing bicycle wails rocks much anything they could find . the police and the police
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find. the police and the police have been firing tear gas , try have been firing tear gas, try to disperse the protesters and i think there are several different elements to this. it looks very like this an anti immigrant attack. that is certainly what the french authorities and the interior is saying. and the suspect who's been arrested is a 69 year old former railway worker who was already facing for racist violence and has a previous. a well , but violence and has a previous. a well, but nine years ago , three well, but nine years ago, three kurdish activist , three female kurdish activist, three female kurdish activist, three female kurdish activists, one of whom was closely associated with a band , turkish militant group band, turkish militant group called the pkk , which is called the pkk, which is battling an independent kurdish state on what's now turkish and iraqi territory. those three
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female activists were in paris and a man was two turkish citizen . but certainly members citizen. but certainly members of the turkish community here that converge say that the turkish intelligence services were behind those killings and they believe that the french authorities don't do enough to protect them . yeah, well , so protect them. yeah, well, so clearly there's been a hotbed that a while now just in terms of this area. okay. because bear in mind david marr. why are home security? i saw myself with where in london we were getting this dropping through was the live images brought to us just as this really kicked off and it was a very chaotic situation. so what do you know about this specific area where this is currently taking place? we have here is this 10th arrondissement. i've never been there myself. just talk me through what this area is like here right now. yeah mean it is an ethnically mixed area. it's
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about 20 minutes walk from where i live. so i know it well . a i live. so i know it well. a formerly working class area that's now got a lot of hipster style and so on. so it's very much a in transition quite volatile sometimes i suppose you could . and there are a lot of could. and there are a lot of kurdish restaurants there as well , which kurdish restaurants there as well, which are very popular. one of those restaurants featured by a celebrity chef, anthony . now deceased, the anthony. now deceased, the american celebrity chef who made that restaurant quite popular with hipsters. so i'd say it's a formerly class area in the process of because prices are rising all across central . okay, rising all across central. okay, david, look , i just say thank david, look, i just say thank you very much for. david, look, i just say thank you very much for . coming on an you very much for. coming on an incredibly short notice , i think
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incredibly short notice, i think providing some really vital information for us . david, she's information for us. david, she's out there is a paris based journalist. if you are just joining us, this is gb news and we are reacting live in the images that you're seeing that are live of initially a mass shooting at a kurdish community centre that has left at least three people dead , four people three people dead, four people injured, two of them critically. the perpetrator of that attack is believed to be a 69 year old former railway who it is understood was facing trial for a race related incidents , has a a race related incidents, has a previous conviction for a race related . we learned as well that related. we learned as well that members of that kurdish community, a large kurdish community, a large kurdish community in that specific of paris , the 10th arrondissement paris, the 10th arrondissement area of paris , had been warned area of paris, had been warned that the potential for attack was imminent. that the potential for attack was imminent . they clearly feel was imminent. they clearly feel let down by authorities the attack took place the gentleman
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believed be responsible is in custody he's himself a facial injury according to local reports . and what happened then reports. and what happened then was the interior minister of france decided to float the area. well not flood it just a few actually police officers there initially as a sign of secure city in solidarity that that actually sparked riots and those riots were vile and police massively outnumbered in the first instance by by rioters. they were pelted projectiles. they were pelted projectiles. they were pelted projectiles. they were injured . they then they were injured. they then withdrew , regrouped, came back . withdrew, regrouped, came back. the latest that we're seeing now is you're now is of relative calm. i say relative. i mean given what's just taken place , given what's just taken place, the police officers in the streets in, that crowd appears to be dispersed . that's the to be dispersed. that's the latest. we'll return to this a bit later on. what we're going to do is just break off from main story now and come back to something a little bit closer to home because we're going to talk about. home because we're going to talk about . the gb news is people's
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about. the gb news is people's poll earlier this week high court ruled that the government's plan to relocate asylum seekers to was lawful after legal challenges from charities campaign , groups, etc. charities campaign, groups, etc. now one of the findings in this week's gb news people poll is that 40% of the public , the that 40% of the public, the government to arrangements for relocating asylum seekers to rwanda rather than britain . so rwanda rather than britain. so what you can see on the graphics in front you that will explain all this in a bit more detail. but 40% of people supported and that was the majority in terms of the groupings of people that 29% opposed, 12, neither opposed, nor supported. and 18% preferred. not to say or didn't know. we can have a bit of a debate on this now because joining me to discuss this is uk immigration lawyer singh bengal and brexit party mep and political commentator de lucy. thank you very much. we were rather overtaken by events , it rather overtaken by events, it must be said, but i'm sure we can both understand why. i'll
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start with you, bill. in depth when it comes to this, is it any surprise to that the number surprise to you that the number of people in all people's is at 40% it, which 40% who support it, which is over? majority people who over? we majority of people who we've surveyed, when you look at the groups anyway supports the other groups anyway supports the other groups anyway supports the rwanda. i'm the deportation to rwanda. i'm surprised it's not a bit more actual . i surprised it's not a bit more actual. i think is the only actual. i think it is the only plan that any of the main parties have to try and discourage all the human trafficking and the of mass open border issue. we have at the moment with economic migrants abusing our system. you know , abusing our system. you know, i've lots of concerns about the rwanda policy itself, but what is fantastic about this ruling is fantastic about this ruling is that it's actually showing that the government have some control still know. the big question is who runs this country? and for a few months since the dhl stop plane going to rwanda from getting off the ground, there was a justifiable concern that who governs us? what's the point in voting for our mps when , foreign judges and our mps when, foreign judges and
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foreign courts get to rule over us? so absolutely it's a great sign, but it's not enough. well, beunda sign, but it's not enough. well, belinda does , this has been an belinda does, this has been an age old debate and i'll throw it over to haja because how about when people look at the situation , i think more and situation now, i think more and more people are increasingly becoming aligned the idea. becoming aligned to the idea. maybe doing maybe we should be doing something and something with rwanda and getting flights, getting some of those flights, taking think that taking off. do you think that will government more will make the government more inclined to, ignore foreign judges no, i've what's going to judges? no, i've what's going to happenisit judges? no, i've what's going to happen is it all depends whether this scheme is going to be successful or not? there's only 200 rwanda it's 200 spaces in rwanda and it's going cost us millions, if going to cost us millions, if not billions. don't think not billions. i don't think that's going deter that one. that's going to deter that one. even crossing. what's even two days crossing. what's more a deterrent is what more of a deterrent is what reaches sunak amounts. we do reaches sunak amounts. and we do have alternative that we're have an alternative that we're going to fast track asylum and deal them in ten days. and deal with them in ten days. and what to have this before 2012. so under the labour government there used to be a fast track system where if someone would come in on a monday and claim asylum by friday, their claim would their bid would be decided and their bid refused in harmondsworth in west
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london heathrow airport detention . now they even have detention. now they even have a court on site in the detention centre . so if you appealed centre. so if you appealed a decision on friday, you're heanngs decision on friday, you're hearings on monday , and if that hearings on monday, and if that gets refused, you could be on a plane. so i people sent back in 20 days but under the last 812 odd years under the conservative the fatalistic that's called in the fatalistic that's called in the fast system has gone and oddly ourselves. i'll stop you that's going to be why i'll still be because i think you've hit the nail on the head and beunda hit the nail on the head and belinda as harsh i've not actually identified something that people have saying for that people have been saying for a which is write the a long time which is write the rwanda you got rwanda thing, find cool. you got a people on after a few people on a plane after you wonder you love a cruise you wonder if you love a cruise ship in the channel as well some kind of offshore detention. yeah and you the speed and and you increase the speed and the for people have the resources for people to have their only their claims process is only without approach that will actually anything done. actually get anything done. otherwise i otherwise the tories toast. i don't . the fast track thing is don't. the fast track thing is going to help with numbers at the moment we're fast. not fast
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tracking but allowing 55% of albanian so—called asylum seekers through our system and them when they're clearly not asylum seekers. so speeding that's up isn't going to stop the numbers we need. stop them coming here in the first place. and i don't think the government's being tough enough that carrot. that keep dangling the carrot. if our beaches, your if your on our beaches, your chances of staying here, even with the rwanda policy. because you're right barely any one will get on that plane. by the way, because as the judgement said, you know, the people who took the course have, have had the to course have, have had their to stay know, their rights to stay know, supported now . and so the supported for now. and so the rwanda policy is more of a deterrent that's not going to help with the numbers to make help with the numbers we to make sure anyone arrives sure that anyone who arrives here the has no right here on the boats has no right stay whatsoever. there's no stay here whatsoever. there's no point in fast tracking if we're still the all through . still letting the all through. all right look charge up would love to go but unfortunately i can't because we've been overtaken by what's been going on in paris. and also i've got studio guest which needs if studio guest here which needs if it's in the running order has
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been ripped up afraid as i'm been ripped up i'm afraid as i'm sure can both understand as sure you can both understand as a the events in paris. a result of the events in paris. but thank you very but both of you, thank you very harder among now, course, harder among us. now, of course, because immigration lawyer because uk immigration lawyer and de lucy as and as well belinda de lucy as well former brexit party mep reacting to the people's poll regarding people think regarding 40% of people think it's thing basically it's a good thing to basically get people so moving on get people planes. so moving on now quickly because royal now just quickly because royal college today college of nursing is today announced, frustrated the announced, frustrated on the 18th of january, 18th and the 19th of january, warnings next warnings of more to come next year unless pay talks are year unless those pay talks are resumed. latest is resumed. the latest on that is the government said, no, the government has said, no, we're talk to you we're not going talk to you about pay. the nurses still not budging it comes to around budging when it comes to around a even scotland, a 19% pay rise, even scotland, members of , the union up there, members of, the union up there, the college of rejected the royal college of rejected a 7.5% average pay rise offer . so 7.5% average pay rise offer. so they rejected that. anyway, the gmb union has called off an strike action planned forjust christmas, but announced a new on the 11th of january. instead, fresh strikes are now left , fresh strikes are now left, right and centre, but yes, there's loads of people who've been getting touch about this very concerned. here's a picture of it is lucy johnson health and
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social affairs of the sunday express writes start with the latest on strike. nurses latest round on strike. nurses not down. yeah, exactly. not backing down. yeah, exactly. and it seems that the government will to be being a bit in transit about it they're not prepared to talk about but then on the other hand i think it's well recognised we haven't got 19% pay rise to give us no , the 19% pay rise to give us no, the country is broke so it needs you know, it seems to be there's a deadlock and it's someone has to they need to get back around the table and talk and perhaps . table and talk and perhaps. a 7.5% maybe with an increase next year. 7.5% maybe with an increase next year . otherwise it will carry year. otherwise it will carry on. well, this is interesting this broke actually just half an hour ago. i'm just seeing it now and it is that talks between the health secretary and unions ended without a pay offer being made. now that bit we knew but what we didn't know and this is new apparently the government new is apparently the government is saying that it's going to
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impose its offer a 7.5% average pay impose its offer a 7.5% average pay rise on nurses. that's north of the border potentially something that could happen down here . potentially. i mean, here. potentially. i mean, i think there'll be a fight whatever way. you cut it. and i think what's happened is that perhaps, you know, the nurses have pivoted the narrative rather as well as all the unions have to now talk about not just pay have to now talk about not just pay but to talk about the nhs in general . and so they're saying general. and so they're saying that this about patient care, this is about the fact we can't care for and look after people safely and that has winning pubuc safely and that has winning public support and even if the strikes do die down and they come to some settlement, where does that leave the nhs? and that narrative will continue. lisa i'm very that you've made all the effort to come into the studio. what does equates to about 90 seconds worth of broadcast, but that's the nature of the business that we're in. unfortunately, given what's been going johnston going on in paris lucy johnston health affairs editor the
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health and affairs editor of the sun when back, i will sun. when we come back, i will bnng sun. when we come back, i will bring the very latest on the bring you the very latest on the violent paris. at least three violent in paris. at least three people dead a mass people dead after a mass shooting riots .
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welcome, ladies, gentlemen. big day already . welcome, ladies, gentlemen. big day already. he's just gone at 5:00. violent clashes erupted in paris earlier after a mass shooting left three people dead, several injured police with riot shields faced kurdish at the scene of the attack, which took place near a kurdish community centre. it cakes right off. we had live images of will go back to those very very shortly . get to those very very shortly. get emails coming in as well on a whole range of topics so we're going to be talking about today we were doing the gender recognition madness second place we were doing the gender recinnition madness second place we were doing the gender recin scotland dness second place we were doing the gender rec in scotland for ss second place we were doing the gender rec in scotland for the econd place we were doing the gender
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rec in scotland for the latest place we were doing the gender rec in scotland for the latest of|ce up in scotland for the latest of strikes. force on strike. strikes. border force on strike. i'm poll well which i'm the people's poll well which turns that 40% of you four turns out that 40% of you four 0% think those 5012 should take off asap . gb news gb news dot off asap. gb news gb news dot uk. we're going to give you your headunes uk. we're going to give you your headlines now. but yes, like i said when i come back, we have the very, very latest from. ongoing violent clashes in. paris, . patrick thank paris, stay tuned. patrick thank . good afternoon. it's 5:01. i'm bethany l.s. the gb newsroom. violent clashes have broken out in central paris near to where a gunman opened fire, killing three people from the kurdish community and injuring several others others . members of the others others. members of the community gathered around the police cordon to express anger at the attack raising concerns it be racially motivated . but it be racially motivated. but demonstrations turned into police threw tear gas . police threw tear gas. protesters lit fires in the streets. a 69 year old has been
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detained and police have launched an investigation into murder, manslaughter and aggravated violence. french media say the suspect was known to police and allegedly attacked a migrant camp last year. to police and allegedly attacked a migrant camp last year . the a migrant camp last year. the health secretary has called the newly strikes by nurses on the 18th and 19th of january disappointing and says there no one's best interests . the royal one's best interests. the royal college of nursing says , the college of nursing says, the walk outs will go ahead unless . walk outs will go ahead unless. the government opens negotiations pay. meanwhile, the gmb called off a post—christmas strike by ambulance workers in england and wales. they'll strike by ambulance workers in england and wales . they'll now england and wales. they'll now strike on the 11th of january. the union's national secretary rachel harrison thanked the pubuc rachel harrison thanked the public for their support. the pubuc public for their support. the public are deeply worried about our nhs and we are to people across the country have been incredible in backing our members and nhs workers and we care so much about them. that's why we are suspend the proposed
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gmb action on the 28th of december. we the public, will appreciate being able to enjoy christmas without any additional anxiety . the prime minister has anxiety. the prime minister has apologised for christmas travel disruption following strike action by border force staff today. action by border force staff today . weward to say what it today. weward to say what it snow heathrow . gatwick. snow heathrow. gatwick. birmingham. cardiff and manchester airports are all affected, but heathrow claims its operating as normal. military personnel and volunteers from the civil have been trained to step rishi. sunak insists sector pay must be controlled to keep down inflation first. i'm really saddened and disappointed about the disruption that is being caused to so many people's lives, particularly at christmas time. what i'm trying to do is make the right long term decisions for the country, for everybody's benefit . i think we everybody's benefit. i think we all know that the major economic we face now is inflation. we all face now is inflation. it's that's eating into
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everyone's pay is rising cost of living. and i want to make sure that we reduce inflation part of that we reduce inflation part of thatis that we reduce inflation part of that is being responsible when it comes to public sector pay . it comes to public sector pay. gb news understands airlines are facing millions of pounds in extra fuel costs as they try and deal with likely long delays dunng deal with likely long delays during the border force strike . during the border force strike. british airways is one of a number of airlines instructing its pilots to take additional fuel to help cope with the holding in the skies for up to an extra hour . a senior aviation an extra hour. a senior aviation says the contingency plans were essential, but extremely . essential, but extremely. a woman been killed after being struck by police car during a chase of a suspected stolen vehicle . greater manchester vehicle. greater manchester police say the 53 year old was taken to hospital but died a short time later after the collision in oldham this morning . the prime minister says it's completely for the uk government
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consider blocking new gender in scotland . rishi sunak's comments scotland. rishi sunak's comments come after msps voted yesterday to pass the gender recognition reform bill. it lowers the age when people can apply to change their legal gender. 18 to 16, and it also removes the need for and it also removes the need for a medical diagnosis. hollyrood has warned any attempt add intervention from the uk government be vigorously contested . a powerful arctic contested. a powerful arctic storm is sweeping across parts of the us and canada with temperatures plunging as low as —45 degrees. experts warning exposure to bear skin lead to frostbite within . more than 100 frostbite within. more than 100 million people are under weather alerts. the busiest travel days of year. the storm is forecast develop into what's being described as a bomb cyclone bringing with it heavy, blinding . motorists are being warned to expect long delays as millions the road to spend christmas with friends and family. the aa says
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today will be the busiest day of the festive period with an estimated 17 million journeys being made across the uk. a strike tomorrow . thousands of strike tomorrow. thousands of rmt members working at network rail is expected to make matters worse. the walkout last until . worse. the walkout last until. the 27th of december. and george cohen was part of england's1966 world cup, winning team has died at the age 83. cohen played minute of the victorious campaign home soil and in total won 37 caps for his country. his former club fulham announced his death this morning . you're up to death this morning. you're up to date on tv online and dave plus radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to . let's get back to. patrick okay. welcome back, people.
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we're going to go straight in with our top story today , which with our top story today, which is there's been violent clashes between paris. between and police in paris. this follows a shooting at a kurdish community centre which left three people dead , several left three people dead, several critically injured members of the kurdish community. then protest near the scene following an address , the french interior an address, the french interior minister in which he said he wasn't sure if the attacker specifically targeting kurdish people. he however, say that it was clear that the was specifically targeting immigrants . specifically targeting immigrants. it's also important to note that the individual believed to be the suspect . who believed to be the suspect. who is the suspect? 69 year old former railway worker who had been facing trial for a racially aggravated offence and has a previous conviction for racially aggravated confinement . what aggravated confinement. what joins me right now, i believe we've got live pictures as well of what's been going on over there. matt while heightened security. ed, i was going to. well, are looking at a well, we are looking at a situation now there are situation now where there are still significant crowds. it seems the police are there . seems the police are there. they've been able there's a shop
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there on a loudspeaker. i'm sure. a community leader calling for calm in that area because they're very angry. a of argue positions and recriminations claims that actually it was turkey that was behind it. let's just talk issues a little bit more because we did have an on earlier on who was a paris based british journalist who said that there had been anger stoked in kurdish community from a previous years ago that previous attack years ago that was to have been was believed to have been turkish verses kurdish. and then he alluded to that maybe being part of this one. what's what's the latest that he thinks happened? well, of course, no love lost between the two because you have people in what they describe as kurdistan and not turkey and iraq and iran who want , you know, their home want, you know, their home nafion want, you know, their home nation . and in parts of iraq, nation. and in parts of iraq, they have that level of autonomy, not same in turkey. we know that for instance the
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exterior group the pkk . the exterior group the pkk. the turks have proscribed a terrorist organisation a responsible and have been responsible and have been responsible for many terrorist attacks in over the years. and of course, on the other side, two turkish accused of many atrocities towards kurdish people. so that gives you some of the background as to why the kurdish people are claiming or some of them at least that this shooting come at the behest president erdogan , the turkish president erdogan, the turkish leader? absolutely. well, what looking at right now is a bank, a relatively small initial bank , followed by several different other rows of french police emergency services, and then as the camera pans around, that, which is what we're looking at right now is a large crowd of, well, one would imagine anyway, kurds who are in that area. it's a kurdish area. now, is important to say, as we these images live that it was just on this street and on the streets
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around it where not so long ago about half an hour ago there were incredibly violent clashes between the between police and the protesters. said that protesters. it must be said that most the violence was coming most of the violence was coming from protesters projectiles from the protesters projectiles that being thrown at that such are being thrown at police. were police. the police force were not a of gear at the not wearing a lot of gear at the time that this changed. we saw police officers getting injured. we tear gas. then deployed. we saw tear gas. then deployed. now, appears be somewhat of now, this appears be somewhat of a standoff out the moment. why there's nothing particularly violent taking place. but those dispersed for while they are back again , the chanting has back again, the chanting has just started again. this does have the potential for more violence to erupt. one would have thought. yeah, i mean, the concerning about this site the we're back to this street in this know very significantly crowded with individuals who are clearly in and emotional their to give you an indication of some of the things that they're seeing but journalists have been heanng seeing but journalists have been hearing from murat ronay , who is
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hearing from murat ronay, who is a kurdish gentlemen and who visits that cultural centre . visits that cultural centre. there was the subject of the attack he says he comes regularly to the cultural centre. he describes it like the embassy for kurds in paris a gathering place for cultural events political discussion assistance with procedures and a like a house. he says. we're all kurds get together now . this, i kurds get together now. this, i think, goes to the crux why there's so much anger , he says. there's so much anger, he says. we do not feel protected in paris after friday's shooting, he said , we do not at all he said, we do not at all protected in paris by the authorities, by police. and that's why we've got the recrimination now and the accusing actions towards the police, the are a symbol of authority . and you will often authority. and you will often see with an angry crowd that , see with an angry crowd that, symbol of authority will themselves being targeted . and themselves being targeted. and clearly that happened before . it
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clearly that happened before. it has to be hoped that calmer heads prevail now. but what are witnessing now can only be described as a standoff between kurdish protesters . the chanting kurdish protesters. the chanting you will be able hear in the background now. now, is this same street where we brought you live images roughly half an houn live images roughly half an hour, 45 minutes ago of how turned out violence , projectiles turned out violence, projectiles being thrown, fires in history. french police officers charging tear gas, batons wielded, then retreating and regrouping. and this is the culmination , that this is the culmination, that situation now , hundreds and situation now, hundreds and hundreds of , situation now, hundreds and hundreds of, one would imagine, mostly kurdish men, as we can see that face to face, nose to with the french police officers . and as the camera will pan around again shortly, one would imagine there is a huge row of french police officers. it's an incredibly narrow street. i'm just going to read you a couple of things from french media who are on the scene. emmanuel the french president has now spoken about this is a brief statement . he said it's an odious attack
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. this attack left three people dead, four people injured. it's believed to be far right, anti attack anyway. so it's an odious attack. he said his thoughts are with the victims. i'm sticking with the victims. i'm sticking with french media who are claiming we are waiting confirmation on this and i want to make that very. but french media claiming that of the media are claiming that of the three victims, one was a woman and men have died. okay. the source of people who have died, french media, unconfirmed french media reporting one was a lady . media reporting one was a lady. there were two men involved as well . and a witness, a lady at well. and a witness, a lady at least claiming to be a witness is reporting and telling french that the gunmen targeted a kurdish cultural centre but also a nearby shop and a hairdressers as well. one would imagine there as well. one would imagine there a row of a row of shops in this particular area. just to fill you in again, what you are seeing now, and i think this is a real concern for people as these crowds of people are dispersed. the french police
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have in, they've scattered. have come in, they've scattered. they they are they are now back and they are regrouping. french police, regrouping. the french police, they because they they dispersed because they were all the area. saw the all over the area. we saw the vans in with the police vans coming in with the police in the have now in series on the have now gathered this is not any gathered and this is not any time soon because we have on a very narrow street in the 10th arrondissement paris is a big arrondissement in paris is a big kurdish area a big multicultural area, very much groups of area, very much two groups of people here , police the people here, the police and the kurds just eyeballing each other really . yeah. i mean, they've , really. yeah. i mean, they've, you know, a right to be there to make their voices heard about a terrible that took place today and to voice their very concern that. and to voice their very concern that . they say they are not that. they say they are not being properly protected by authorities in paris. the real concern , patrick, will be what concern, patrick, will be what happens next because it doesn't take much you can hear from the crowd that you know they are pretty volatile they are quite with what has happened. and as we saw before it was only few
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individuals in the crowd who were up on line posts, up on the tops of vehicles that were then encouraged others to pick up bncks encouraged others to pick up bricks and other chairs and the like and throw them at the police and then it descended into some quite serious violence . a number of police officers injured at that point . well, as injured at that point. well, as i understand it, french police are currently undertaking a search of the suspect's home. he's a 69 year old man believed to be a former railway worker with a previous conviction for a violent agro attack involving a weapon on migrants in tents in that city. and that is incredibly relevant , least incredibly relevant, least because of the nature of this current shooting now believed to be deliberately targeted , as he be deliberately targeted, as he would say, migrants and the feeling in that community, as we see now earlier , taking place of see now earlier, taking place of that riot , a feeling in the that riot, a feeling in the community of being let down by
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the police officers, been let down by french security forces , down by french security forces, probably been let down possibly anyway. you could say by the french government as well, because they feel as though they were protected enough. and were not protected enough. and as revealed gb news as want revealed live gb news earlier on the been reports from amongst kurdish community that they had been made aware of the risk or the potential of an attack and do not feel protected in. that goes a long way to explaining why we're seeing such vitriol now between the local kurdish community, the police. if a standoff continues to take place in paris , neither side place in paris, neither side going anywhere . mark, as you've going anywhere. mark, as you've said , there is the potential for said, there is the potential for this to go incredibly, incredibly quickly. we already that happen earlier on and it is these people feel incredibly let down by the security services. yes the different the differences time is that there are very more french officers and police officers in full riot kit that have been brought into
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the area for half an hour, 40 minutes or more. they heavily outnumbered because they weren't expecting to police arrive. they were there , as always, happen were there, as always, happen after a terrible incident like this to help police the area act as reassurance. they also there because the french interior minister who is the french equivalent of the home secretary arrived at the scene to take a tour of the scene , to give a tour of the scene, to give a news and news conference . now, news and news conference. now, what i'm told by local journalists there as well have been speaking to some of the people that were there is that they claim that the french threw a ring around the interior minister as you would expect is a high profile politician but they claim that the french police were a bit heavy handed in doing that. they may have been , but this is what have said been, but this is what have said anyway to local . and that was
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anyway to local. and that was the spark for the anger then pointed towards police that and the fact they claim not to have been fully despite being warned some time ago by the about the potential for members of the kurdish community to come under attack. yeah absolutely look we're going to stay with this throughout the course the show okay we're going to keep coming back and forward to we've got images of the situation unfolding in paris at the moment . we're going move away from . we're going to move away from it now we'll dip back in it for now and we'll dip back in and it because like said and out of it because like said at moment anyway, at the moment anyway, is very much standoff between hundreds much a standoff between hundreds of kurdish men and french police. and that situation not appear to be moving very quickly any time soon. so we'll go back to that let's return to something more domestic. let's return to something a bit closer to home, a british border force staff have out today, staff have walked out today, causing disruption at airports across the uk. members of the p.c.c , including staff at p.c.c, including staff at passport control, have begun eight days of industrial action
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, part of a dispute over pay, pensions and job security. employees have walked out of this heathrow gatwick, manchester, birmingham, cardiff and glasgow airport. they're also at the ports of new haven . also at the ports of new haven. joining me to discuss this is travel editor of the newspaper sophie lamb goodness , sophie, sophie lamb goodness, sophie, what we've got chaos in paris , what we've got chaos in paris, different kind of chaos here, but chaos . what's the latest but chaos. what's the latest with our border force on strike 7 with our border force on strike ? and so, you know, actually , ? and so, you know, actually, it's quite a lot calmer than we've been expecting. and i think with with with flight levels now at 86% of pre—covid levels now at 86% of pre—covid levels over this christmas, i think everyone was braced for some pretty scenes at the airports. but things got off to airports. but things got off to a fairly smooth we've seen the military and volunteers drafted in to out to cover those roles of striking staff. i think there are about a thousand staff are striking over the next eight days. and so this disruption is minimal. we've not seen much
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disruption at all. and we've i've seen plenty reports of passengers coming through that they breezed through airports in advance 15, 20 minutes. i mean, this is fantastic news. sorry i become a better chaos in the recent days . everything and i've recent days. everything and i've just had an hour and a half of it kicking right off in paris so for maybe overreacting they're putting somewhat that when it came the chaos that our came to the chaos that our borders do they borders but ask what do they want these border for so i understand it's about well pay pensions conditions but what pensions and conditions but what is currently is so bad currently about the pay is so bad currently about the pay pensions and the pay and the pensions and the conditions conditions ? so my conditions conditions? so my understanding is that they've rejected offer and the rejected 2% pay offer and the mandate to strike bronze until may and we've had a warning from the union the that action will ramp up significantly in january and could run into may further afield potentially, if such a satisfactory isn't structure members. so while things are kind of okay at the moment, i think we could see things getting a bit stickier in the new year. yeah. and in terms of
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a real day today impacts, i mean , normally when strikes happen you go , oh, i will bring the you go, oh, i will bring the army but we're already army here, but we're already bringing in the army and the military. and when it comes to things ambulance strikes things like ambulance strikes and now and whatever's on that and now we're seeing the border we're seeing with the border force will be concerned force people will be concerned when hear words border when they hear words border force think what's force they think what's happening channel or happening in the channel or national general . well, our national in general. well, our national in general. well, our national security will be impacted . i mean, you're saying impacted. i mean, you're saying everything's right at the everything's all right at the minute, but maybe give it a few days.i minute, but maybe give it a few days. i know your days. i don't know your thoughts. we certainly thoughts. i mean, we certainly hope so understanding, again, hope so my understanding, again, is these volunteers and is that these volunteers and military personnel, you know, they go the they don't go through the request, rigorous training, that border do. my border force do. and my understanding that they were given about five days training to these posts . so while to cover these posts. so while we seeing a quite a smooth we see seeing a quite a smooth operation going on at ports, we know what exactly that training look like . you know, we hope look like. you know, we hope that our borders are safe and secure and the country is being kept protected by these these volunteers. but how sustainable
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these measures are remains to be saying no, they've they rejected a 2% pay offer. if you said i missed it. any idea? exactly they wanted they released their demands . is they wanted they released their demands. is it it's not something like 19. again, as everyone seems to want about that at the moment and i've lost track i'm sorry. i'm just don't worry about it . so because worry about it. so because i haven't seen it, i've been reporting all day, i just wondered if you knew this. all right, don't worry about it. and it so much chaos going on with the at the moment. it's the strikes at the moment. it's difficult exactly. difficult to know exactly. everybody it. but everybody stands on it. but look, sophy, thank you very much for stepping in us. this for stepping in for us. this issue. film those trouble. issue. so film those trouble. you're newspaper you're the newspaper just filling the filling everybody in on the latest it comes to the latest when it comes to the border strikes. no of border force strikes. no sign of them stopping soon. them stopping any time soon. they rejected the latest they have rejected the latest offer around 2. i've got offer of around 2. i've got loads we've got loads coming your way. we've got the the gb news the results. the gb news these people's poll and it finds that more people support the government's view on migrant government's view on the migrant plan it . so shock, plan than oppose it. so shock, horror, that really i'm also going to be getting some reaction. what's taking place
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nonh reaction. what's taking place north of the border up in scotland , we had a situation of scotland, we had a situation of ridiculous yesterday where a bunch of elected officials decide to stand up , bunch of elected officials decide to stand up, applaud a group of men sat in a gallery who really pushed for a bill that eroded women's rights mean, for example, rapists. now would potentially be able to change their gender and to women's spaces. not, ladies and gentlemen seems to be gentlemen that is seems to be progress he'd have thunk it. we'll the latest from we'll also have the latest from paris where protesters have clashed with armed police. it's after dead three after gunman shot dead three people, injured several others. we thought was going to be a quiet day today. we were wrong about that i'll see you .
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isn't it? right. okay. earlier this way, the high court ruled that the government's plan to relocate asylum seekers to rwanda is lawful after legal from charities and campaign groups . it from charities and campaign groups. it was never ending. in fact, it didn't just roll. but it was lawful. it well, hilariously that some of hilariously ruled that some of those charities have legal those charities don't have legal standing, which is fascinating. and week we decided to go and poll you the nation gb news these people in our people's poll and it reveals that 40% for zero of the public support the government to make arrangements to asylum seekers to rwanda rather than britain . 29% said rather than britain. 29% said they opposed the plans . now i they opposed the plans. now i just want to emphasise while those numbers on the screen, they're actually how important is i think a lot of people assume when our people's assume that when we our people's poush assume that when we our people's polish targeted at gb news polish just targeted at gb news viewers and it's not it's a well it's a proper poll okay so it's 40% of the british public as polled them, is why a lot polled them, which is why a lot of the time. some of you just not all, you know, conscious of this amount, people's in this amount, people's point in brexit, people's point
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brexit, it's most people's point now. 40% of the public now now. so 40% of the public now that significant actually that is significant actually realistically because actually i think says is that realistically because actually i think is says is that realistically because actually i think is actuallysays is that realistically because actually i think is actually ays is that realistically because actually i think is actually a lots that realistically because actually i think is actually a lot support there is actually a lot support out there for the rwanda plan and this rwanda deal. it's got to be part of a multi—pronged . to be part of a multi—pronged. and shortly i'm going to be talking to a guest on this because what we're starting to see after years and years, years of the tories frankly doing absolutely about the issue absolutely all about the issue and issue, a and the issue, getting a lot worse is a sudden the worse is all of a sudden the culmination of what appears to be some of multi—pronged approach. had rwanda approach. we've had the rwanda plan deemed lawful now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be deemed lawful now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be fooled.1ed lawful now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be fooled. thisawful now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be fooled. this isful now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be fooled. this is of now approach. we've had the rwanda plan be fooled. this is of anw don't be fooled. this is of a smokescreen because it could still up being you still up being blocked. you could still it on a direct could still put it on a direct course of action when it comes to our european friends and judges over , but only around 200 judges over, but only around 200 people initially will be able to go one, which is not a massive deterrent. certainly when you look at the that it's not a look at the fact that it's not a deterrent , a lot people to deterrent, a lot of people to actually sadly the channel actually die. sadly the channel then had talk this week of then we've had talk this week of a ship processing a cruise ship processing offshore processing being locked out which i think is fascinating
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and then talk as well of them ramping up the speed with which people can be processed and it's only through a multi—pronged approach that . this issue will approach that. this issue will ever get sorted . joining me now ever get sorted. joining me now to talk about it is the director, centre for director, the centre for migration economic migration and economic prosperity wolf. prosperity is stephen wolf. stephen, very much. stephen, thank you very much. great you the show. great to have you on the show. do that anything is do you believe that anything is going with going happen with a multi—pronged or you multi—pronged approach or do you think we're just being think yet again we're just being let the garden path ? let down the garden path? actually, on this occasion? i think that they're beginning think now that they're beginning to little bit, i speak to ramp up a little bit, i speak with people in, the home office, obviously when i'm trying to get and understanding their and understanding what their lines and think there is lines are, and i think there is a sense of enthusiasm and more positivity from those within the camps that have been trying to work for rwanda. you've got to understand, and i think you know this very well, that even within the civil service are those who want make work and those want to make it work and those who trying to it who are trying to prevent it from working and those who trying to make it work feel positive court positive about this court decision. the that they can ramp
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up , sending people back to up, sending people back to albania and the hope that other ideas can now come forward. but stephen, i look around and i am incredibly concerned it another story we earlier story that we covered earlier and a point of and i'm to draw a point of relevance here which is that there is not in any way, shape or form mass public support for what happened in scotland yesterday . the gender yesterday. the gender recognition bill there is not mass public support for the idea that women's spaces can be made in any way, shape or form less safe and yet a government up north who has been great odds by woke ideology decided that they had to push it forward as a matter of urgency. what we have seen now is increasing public support for the rwanda scheme and really between the lines that , a more and really between the lines that, a more hard line approach . the channel migrant crisis . . the channel migrant crisis. i'm worried that our government here is gripped by an equally woke political agenda and they just won't make it happen . the just won't make it happen. the civil service, as you alluded to, oh, there no doubt you're in london. i've been in london. we can clearly see it from to
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politics to, education to what's now being referred to as the blob civil service that are immovable in moving on the ideas of government ministers and keeping up their own ideas. so without a doubt we're going to be up against those challenges. anyone who supported brexit knows well they've worked the past six years to prevent brexit being happening in the way that we anticipated. we know the immigration industry has worked tremendously to stop rwanda and they're not going to give up. so they're not going to give up. so the government has to really strong on this. but can . i hope strong on this. but can. i hope so. but they've only got two years left. they only got two years left. they only got two years left. they only got two years left. stephen, i concerned as well that . we've just been as well that. we've just been lied to on the basis of what we use is we'll disused university halls or we'll use disused military barracks . i mean, military barracks. i mean, actually, i must say made me chuckle yesterday. i footage of a group i saw a group of very well—heeled people in muswell hill standing a hotel where a
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bunch of so—called asylum seekers were taken from the hotel to a military base . i hotel to a military base. i mean, they could have housed all of them in any one of the spare rooms, by the way. probably all in one of the size houses in as well. but they were protesting while refugees welcome while saying refugees welcome here of stuff. but here and all of that stuff. but i'd concerned if i'd say i'm concerned that if we're military barracks, we're using military barracks, we're using military barracks, we're and we're using student halls and we're using student halls and we're using student halls and we're using cams as well. we're still going to end up using hotels. the taxpayers pay twice . oh, yeah. i mean, refugees are welcome as long as it is not in their homes. yeah i mean, i see that in here, that in winchester ihave that in here, that in winchester i have discussions and arguments. how many arguments. i ask them, how many people you housed? oh well people have you housed? oh well i can't possibly do that. so that's clear. the hypocrisy that's very clear. the hypocrisy of support these ideas of those who support these ideas never follows through themselves. big concern about themselves. my big concern about themselves. my big concern about the putting people in holiday camps into military bases is the idea that we're going to swiftly the applications through . what the applications through. what i have noticed in the research switched off on the screen behind me is that there has been
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a massive in those people granted asylum year than last year and they're doing it at the initial decision . so my feeling initial decision. so my feeling is that within government their view is that they can solve of this in their way by actually just granting asylum to as many people as possible and reduce the numbers. that's where i feel the numbers. that's where i feel the concern is . well, that's the concern is. well, that's where the concern is. but i think all people's polls showed that support 40% for the that number support 40% for the government through rwanda plan. and is growing and that and that is growing and that will grow, i suspect , stephen, will grow, i suspect, stephen, that the will of the people will increase on this and we'll put more pressure. the government, as people see that if the government caves in and gives pay government caves in and gives pay rises to a variety of different public sector workers, for and people for example, and that people keep money off to keep seeing money going off to people, money being people, keep seeing money being everywhere some point everywhere else at some point they're going to want to say, well, hang on a minute. can we keep a little bit about here for us and get this rwanda plan off the to save it even. the ground to save it even. thank very much, stephen thank you very much, stephen wolf. director of the
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wolf. he is director of the centre migration, economic centre of migration, economic prosperity. a prosperity. i actually made a point well about point there as well say about the there's a lot the fact that there's a lot people say refugees welcome, people who say refugees welcome, but just not my house. isn't it fascinating how many people were so mark? so how is so quick off the mark? so how is the ukrainian refugee? if the ukrainian refugee? but if you someone who'd you offered them someone who'd just the channel just come across the channel from afghanistan, from syria or afghanistan, they would would. that's would say no. i would. that's because actually because they're actually quite secretly anyway, secretly racist. but anyway, you're christys on you're with patrick christys on gb news. we will have more from paris violent have been paris where violent have been panning between protesters paris where violent have been pan|police. between protesters paris where violent have been pan|police. clashesn protesters paris where violent have been pan|police. clashes n pro place; and police. clashes took place after a gunman shot dead three people, injured several others in what believed to be in what is believed to be a racially motivated attack. i'll bnng racially motivated attack. i'll bring the on that. bring you the latest on that. there also live images that there are also live images that we can hopefully show you as well as police are in a standoff with of kurdish male with a group of kurdish male protest . yes. but first, the protest. yes. but first, the latest headlines . patrick, thank latest headlines. patrick, thank you. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb news. french president emmanuel has condemned what he calls a heinous attack on the kurdish
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community in paris after two men and a woman were killed in a shooting this afternoon . several shooting this afternoon. several people were also injured after a gunman opened fire on a community centre . members of the community centre. members of the kurdish community have clashed with police this afternoon near to where the incident took place. express anger at the attack, which believe could be racially . a 69 year old has been racially. a 69 year old has been detained and police have launched an investigation into murder, manslaughter and, aggravated violence. it's understood the suspect was known to police and allegedly attacked a migrant camp last year. to police and allegedly attacked a migrant camp last year . the a migrant camp last year. the health secretary has called a newly announced by nurses on the 18th and 19th of january disappointing and says there no one's best interests. the royal college of nursing says the walkouts will go ahead unless the government opens negotiations over pay . negotiations over pay. meanwhile, the gmb called off a post—christmas strike by
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ambulance in england and wales. they'll walk out on the 11th of january. the unions national secretary, rachel harrison , secretary, rachel harrison, thanked the public for their support . the prime minister has support. the prime minister has apologised for christmas travel disruption following strike action by force staff today . i action by force staff today. i know you are to listen, to hear what ? heathrow, gatwick, what? heathrow, gatwick, birmingham. cardiff glasgow and manchester airports all affected. but heathrow claims its operating as normal. military personnel and volunteers from the civil have been trained to step in. rishi sunak insists public pay must be controlled to keep down inflation. first of all, i'm really saddened and disappointed about the disruption that is being caused so many people's lives, particularly at christmas time. what i'm trying to do is make the right long term decisions for the country, for everybody's benefit . and i think everybody's benefit. and i think we all know that the major economic all face now is economic we all face now is inflation. it's that's eating into pay packets is
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into everyone's pay packets is rising. the cost of living . and rising. the cost of living. and i want to make sure that we reduce inflation. part of that is being responsible when it comes to setting public sector pay comes to setting public sector pay george cohen , he was pay. and george cohen, he was part of england's1966 world cup winning team, has at the age of 83. cohen played every minute of the victorious campaign on home soil and in total 37 caps for his country . soil and in total 37 caps for his country. his former club, fulham, announced death this morning . you're up to date on tv morning. you're up to date on tv onune morning. you're up to date on tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. don't go anywhere. patrick will be back in a moment.
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following a shooting there earlier shooting. earlier today, a mass shooting. three at least four three people died, at least four injured, critically, 60 year injured, two critically, 60 year old man arrest did. he's believed to have a previous conviction for a racially aggravated attack. it's been reported kurdish demonstrators who were clashing with police were doing so to demand justice after that deadly shooting. three people died. they said the police not done enough to protect in those clashes, which you've seen pictures of or just saw pictures of. anyway, got particular violence. i'm joined now by charles and galois, who is political and leader of france's generation frexit group .thank france's generation frexit group . thank you very much, charles. look, the protesters there initially that not enough was being done to protect from a racist attack . your views . but racist attack. your views. but richard, let's first we don't know really what's the motivation of the guy who did it. we know that, charles, like racist attack by graham but don't know if easier let's say
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or a french citizen or easily to the turkey says you know that there are there as a protest between the turkish and the kurdish so we don't have the background behind that do to say something what we say it's always the same it's the judicial laxity because this guy as to a previous attempts and still he free actually he has been by some military steps so this is the main issue about about say things this is drama. yeah about security and what's important mention as well as a lot of people saying online that this is a far right terror attack this is yet to be confirmed. and one thing that we had earlier our security and it's white was saying that there was concern amongst the kurdish
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community that this was a dispute between turkish people and kurdish people. we'll have to and see exactly how pans out. but important to jump to conclusions that but one thing what do you make of the reaction from the local kurdish population? now we witnessed some pretty terrifying scenes riots with the french police i mean it's quite disturbing because you as a french police, as a i quite quickly actually they were they were they're just after the shootings they are immobilised as a killer it would seem quite weak and the world manages and i don't know what could turn you is a process towards that of riots because i mean the enemy is a guy who did it . you said we don't know. he it. you said we don't know. he shoots far right activists if he's linked to the turkish point we don't know but it's not the french police that committed
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this murder . french police that committed this murder. so it's quite disturbing to see that of france. and let me say something , if it's linked to turkey, it's it is the issue of mass migration because when you have mass migration, you to bring all conflicts intimately . conflicts conflicts intimately. conflicts are to them because you would have the conflict between between the israel and palestine you would as a conflict between daesh on turkey's europe or the conflict on the world in your own . so that may be a problem as own. so that may be a problem as even as we say we don't know so far this is a profile of the guy charles what race relations like paris and in france at moment. no i mean normally normally it's a is a main issue. no i mean normally normally it's a is a main issue . so we have a is a main issue. so we have it's an issue of number it's must be aggression because they're quite the same in the uk you have like 300,000 people that come every year and that is
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an issue because you can assimilate, you can integrate it to shoot people, but you cannot with countries you integrate individuals . and what happens individuals. and what happens when you have this of numbers, you don't have assimilation and you don't have assimilation and you have some issue and you have andifs you have some issue and you have and it's there every day. you have some problem with it. we are seen sit your people and in terms of security and assimilation it's a complete the austerity work actually i mean we should reduce as immigration closes issues that we have and like you as a uk we are in the eu and you know the eu's illegal immigration is under by the eu on illegal immigration once are in the schengen area you cannot against it. so you you you will have this issue but let's say on a global picture , many people a global picture, many people are . but you have some numbers
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are. but you have some numbers that cannot on that kind of numbers you cannot walk. so we have to walk on to you. charles, thank you very. as i recall, while they the political commentators and leader of france's generation flex asset group reacting to the latest from paris, a standoff continues between the kurdish population all elements the kurdish population anyway and they sent around the small of paris and riot police after three people were shot four injured. two still injured. a 69 year old man is in police . that is believed is in police. that is believed to have then prompted riots . to have then prompted riots. paris, which we brought to live here. but i'm going to move on now because the prime minister said this is a massive story about absolutely massive the prime minister has said it would be responsible, reasonable , so be responsible, reasonable, so reasonable for the uk government to blocking gender to consider blocking new gender reforms in scotland. so this is an week of debate over gender recognition reform bill in hollyrood which is now being passed. it's to make it easier
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for trans scots to obtain a gender recognition certificate. westminster might be able block it though. nicholas sturgeon no doubt would kick right off. the problem that is, is this the hill that ? she wants to die on hill that? she wants to die on the yes does make it the bill? yes does make it easier just on paper for trans men say that they are now women can get their birth certificate changed but serious concerns over the fact that it lowers the age that people are able do this from down to 1650 and a half year old in some without a doctor's no having just lived in as your gender as your gender. what does that even mean changing your pronouns on twitter for a matter of months and it also means and this for was the utterly utterly sickening the snp the labour party the greens and the lib dems had a choice up there whether or to not include or to exclude sorry people who were wanted for rape or sexual violent crimes against women from being able to change their and therefore enter women's and
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they decided to not exclude them from that . why actually magnus from that. why actually magnus have me talk about this now as the leader of the alba policy in westminster, neil hanvey mp , westminster, neil hanvey mp, conservative councillor for falkirk north is james bundy. look, the absolute utter lunacy . this policy, as far as i'm concerned, knows no bounds. but i just want to talk to you a little bit about or not, westminster decides to overrule this and what that would really i'm going to start with neil i'll start with you. who is? the leader of alba party in leader of the alba party in westminster, humphrey. westminster, neil humphrey. your views decides views this westminster decides to what's going to overrule what's going on in hollyrood. i mean, i'm very hollyrood. well i mean, i'm very happy to have stood alongside mp and msps from the snp who oppose legislation on to where am, you know, fighting for the amendment that would have a limited the impact this on women and other vulnerable groups so you know that's starting point whether
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i'm right for westminster to interfere in scots law as a very different argument as a matter of principle i think that's wrong what needs to happen is that this law should be amended in the scottish parliament by the scottish parliament and they should take cognisance of the impact on the rest of the uk when they were never considered in the bill. i mean and passed and current. well no it shouldn't, it shouldn't have an and i get that but the fact is it has and nicholas sturgeon is in there and banging the drum and i'm going to bring you in now, james. james bundy's conservative councillor for falkirk, north is this a hill? the nicholas sturgeon really wants is she going wants to die on? is she going to try potentially westminster try to potentially westminster blocking drumming up blocking as a way of drumming up support even support for support, even more support for scottish independence because i suspect james, if she picks this topic the public won't be with her. i don't think the vast majority public support this . majority public support this. the polls show that the
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the opinion polls show that the vast majority of scots not in favour of the legislation, even majority of snp voters aren't in favour of it. so when it comes to taking the uk government to court. it's not a sensible idea , but the supreme court case that we just heard on independence and wise either that . £250,000 of taxpayer money that. £250,000 of taxpayer money down the drain , that true part down the drain, that true part of this bill as you said in your introduction and patrick was a sex offender was reckless. those have been charged with domestic abuse. have been charged with domestic abuse . they are committed to abuse. they are committed to change the agenda with months of living and other gender, whatever that means . and these whatever that means. and these were the conservative as well as some backbench snp rebels put forward sensible common sense amendments and the snp majority of the snp nicholas sturgeon team and the greens forced them
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through. it was sickening. even though i still expect you the votes to go through just because the parliament tree arithmetic, it was sickening and when it actually was confirmed and i was at the protest on wednesday outside the parliament listening to the speakers and myself included now and was the numbers, they were really concerned it and they just felt that their voices were being ignored. yeah and it's on i'm just, i'm going to cut you off because i want to go back to you both and i'm a bit pressed for time given the events that took place in paris, this kind of reptile running a little bit up here, but i'll go back reptile running a little bit up to you. your message nicholas sturgeon what? sturgeon on this will be what? well, i mean, message to nicholas sturgeon is that she must support for independent must use support for independent funds this this petite funds to fight this this petite cause hers . and she has been cause of hers. and she has been ruthless , ignoring dissenting ruthless, ignoring dissenting within the independence movement. this will strengthen the cause of independence . and the cause of independence. and this has been a distraction of advice of distraction. i can't understand what she's thinking
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about because there is not the support for this legislation and certainly not in its current form and public . it'sjust form and public. it's just nonsensical . all right, james, nonsensical. all right, james, as sturgeon endangered women in scotland now . yes. that is the scotland now. yes. that is the reality of this boom it's not anti—trans and to say that sex offenders and rapists take advantage of this bill if she accepted the common sense amendments, there's a totally different story for her and the greens pushed it through. look, both of you, thank you very much. i'm sorry we didn't have a bit longer, i'm sure bit longer, chaps i'm sure you've out on line for you've been out on the line for a while, that's nature of a while, but that's nature of the i'm afraid, as humvee the beast, i'm afraid, as humvee that his leader of the alba that mp, his leader of the alba party westminster, party in westminster, accepts accounts james bundy accounts of north james bundy whizzing it through utter madness taking place madness that's taking place north right time. for north of border right time. for just more one, because just one more quick one, because this gb people's this week's gb news people's poll, say, as poll, you'll have to say, as feel that 22% of the public believe that keir starmer will believe that keir starmer will be manage the strikes
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be able to manage the strikes than sunak's . only 14% of than rishi sunak's. only 14% of the voters chose rishi soon, whereas a whopping 40% of them said that neither of them will be able to handle it better, but would labour actually be able to the strikes effectively head pick the bones out of one is former labour steven pounds david thank you very much people get well the tories are doing now because they're not really going to negotiate so least we know where they stand. labour they're on a sticky wicket would. they do better at the would. they do any better at the minute. no question. minute. absolutely no question. look start? look what would do to start? we'd little bit of we'd have a little bit of consistency because the president do president is consistently do nothing we've josh nothing at all. we've got josh up now with what you should be buying that christmas cracker , buying that christmas cracker, shouldn't you? but at the present you've got the government two ways and government facing two ways and they stephen rishi they got stephen barclay, rishi sunak, trying to sunak, rishi sunak trying to pretend reality we pretend the tough guy reality we all know you couldn't not ask enough the pudding, but you enough the rice pudding, but you know, trying to become mr. know, he's trying to become mr. tough guy. one hand, tough guy. on the one hand, they're saying, you you're they're saying, you know you're going people's at going to put people's lives at risk. they're from the
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risk. they're making from the sideline, are most sideline, which are most unhelpful. other unhelpful. on the other hand, they we're going to they say, we're not going to talk to now, collective talk to you now, collective bargaining, clues in the bargaining, the clues in the name bargaining and use name bargaining and no use saying is be all and end saying 19% is the be all and end all because. the reality is we've got to get around the table. because table. we've got to try because don't forget, patrick, the government is actually the employer all of these employer in nearly all of these cases. that cases. it's a government that fits the bill, have a bound and duty to the nation to get in and to stand sidelines, sniping to stand the sidelines, sniping and making these stupid, aggressive comments that doesn't know point do you know when. at what point do you think a duty to think keir starmer has a duty to the in, the unions the people in, the unions to say, look, you're being say, look, if you're being offered they've been offered things like they've been offered things like they've been offered a seven offered up north a seven and a half percent pay rise for up there, that's rejected. at what point you people will point do you think people will see coming out see keir starmer coming out speaking against the unions or is he scared? well, no. is he to scared? well, no. i mean, don't forget, we know most the aren't the unions that aren't affiliated labour party affiliated to the labour party anyway stance. anyway know the rmt stance. candidates labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlikezs labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a of labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a of i labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a of i used labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a of i used to labour, anyway know the rmt stance. candlike a of i used to be our, look like a of i used to be a negotiator me what was about to those are the respect be won. you know the reality is soon as you broke up a british rail into all little components as all these little components as
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soon you up the nhs soon as you broke up the nhs into these competing groups into all these competing groups that christmas come early that was christmas come early collective bargaining and because have because what you used to have was bargaining you had was national bargaining you had the health the witley council in the health service did one deal service and so you did one deal with the unions inevitably with all the unions inevitably there was a compromise now you've got these individual you've got all these individual and of is making and each one of them is making their if i was their own case. if i was a negotiator. nowadays i'd be rubbing with glee rubbing my hands with glee because i knew that, you know, i could actually make a local agreement of the old agreement instead of the old when to national. so when it had to be national. so in long term, i mean, in the long term, i mean, i think we're going have more think we're going to have more of the railways back, of this bring the railways back, bnng of this bring the railways back, bring back into bring public utilities back into pubuc bring public utilities back into public copyright. oh, public ownership copyright. oh, for. there you go. i'll tell you why. strong completely why. strong i mean, completely disagree but would disagree with you, but would labour power right labour want to be in power right now? they're inheriting now? i mean, they're inheriting a of mess. are really a bit of mess. are they really just penniless and let's always look to go. would labour look forward to go. would labour actually this actually want to inherit this right i think so. right now? well, i think so. i mean, one of the things that they told me when i first got elected to parliament, your elected to parliament, it's your country constituency country first, your constituency second, right second, your party third. right that a pompous, that may sound a bit pompous, but that's what but in reality that's what it's about you're elected about when you're elected as a of parliament, you represent a
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member of the uk. it's got to be country first and party third. some say the monarchy is some would say the monarchy is big their country big part of their country though, to though, and still you want to aboush though, and still you want to abolish it not abolish that. it does not aboush abolish that. it does not abolish the monarchy or abolish the house of lords, which is, you basically wing you know, basically the wing matter establishment. and you know, basically the wing ndon't establishment. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think establishment. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think he .tablishment. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think he used;hment. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think he used t01ent. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think he used to het. and you know, basically the wing ndon't think he used to he used! i don't think he used to he used to say, oh, he's changed to want to say, oh, he's changed because this the concern. because this is the concern. like when you were 19, he didn't want to criminal now. but want to know criminal now. but some concern with with some this is a concern with with with which is he just with starmer which is he just masking that he is masking the idea that he is actually lot further than actually a lot further left than he he used to stand he is? i mean, he used to stand side by side with jeremy corbyn and people know it looks like they're voting for you know, they're voting for a, you know, some nice solicitor. some fluffy, nice solicitor. actually, going actually, what they're going to get on big red pair. get is hang on a big red pair. we a have thing called we have a have a thing called collective responsibility. i was on under corbyn. collective responsibility. i was 0 didn't under corbyn. collective responsibility. i was 0 didn't vote under corbyn. collective responsibility. i was odidn't vote for under corbyn. collective responsibility. i was 0 didn't vote for corbyn,�* corbyn. collective responsibility. i was 0 didn't vote for corbyn, you byn. i didn't vote for corbyn, you know, jeremy knows where i stand, but i've known, you know, since both 21 years old. since we were both 21 years old. but you're shadow cabinet but if you're the shadow cabinet and a of the and if you're a of the frontbench, you've got collective. not like collective. i may not like the captain team but it's captain of the team but it's still team. stephen thank you still my team. stephen thank you very, very much. so it's a rush
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here, but there we go. those former labour stephen power former labour mp stephen power as or not people that as to whether or not people that keir do a better keir starmer will do a better job handling strikes. job of handling these strikes. 40% great british 40% of you, the great british pubuc 40% of you, the great british public neither starmer 40% of you, the great british publsay neither starmer 40% of you, the great british publsay now neither starmer 40% of you, the great british publsay now would starmer 40% of you, the great british publsay now would atarmer 40% of you, the great british publsay now would a good r 40% of you, the great british publsay now would a good job. will say now would a good job. thank much everybody. thank you very much everybody. i've been in effect .
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good evening . good evening. i'm good evening . i'm back. this good evening. i'm back. this is dewbs& co with me. emily carver . and again for the wonderful michelle to kick start your christmas weekend. now it looks like the uk government may be about show a bit of bottle about to show a bit of bottle after that appalling, controversial deeply controversial and deeply unpopular last unpopular bill was passed last night in the scottish parliament. and it's like maybe, just uk government may just maybe the uk government may actually be putting foot actually be putting its foot down and gearing up for a court battle scottish battle with the scottish government. legislate i'm talking about, of course, is the gender recognition bill which will men and women
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