i'm standing here in this exquisite chapel of , st george, exquisite chapel of, st george, at windsor castle . so close to at windsor castle. so close to where my beloved mother , the where my beloved mother, the late queen, is laid to rest with my dear father , i am reminded of my dear father, i am reminded of the deeply touching letters come words and messages which so many of you have sent . my wife and of you have sent. my wife and myself and i cannot thank you enough for the love and sympathy you have shown our whole family . christmas is a particularly poignant time . all of us who poignant time. all of us who have lost, loved ones, we feel their absence at every familiar of the season and remember them in each cherished tradition , the

in each cherished tradition, the much loved carol, a little town , bethlehem. we sing of how in thy streets shine is the ever light my mother's belief in the power of that was in essential part of her faith god, but also her faith in people . and it is her faith in people. and it is one which i share with my whole heart . it is a belief one which i share with my whole heart. it is a belief in the extraordinary ability of each person to touch with goodness and compassion , the lives of and compassion, the lives of others , and to shine a light in others, and to shine a light in the world around them . this is the world around them. this is essence of our community and the very foundation of our society . very foundation of our society. we see it in the selfless dedication of our armed forces and emergency services who work tirelessly to keep us all safe

and who performs so magnificently as . we mourn the magnificently as. we mourn the passing of . our late queen, our passing of. our late queen, our fixed. we see it in our health and social care professionals , and social care professionals, our teachers , and indeed all our teachers, and indeed all those working in public service who skill and commitment are at the heart of our communities. and at this time of great anxiety , hardship, be for those anxiety, hardship, be for those around the world conflict, famine or disaster , or for those famine or disaster, or for those at home finding ways to pay their bills and keep their families fed and warm . we see it families fed and warm. we see it in the humanity of people , our in the humanity of people, our nafions in the humanity of people, our nations and the commonwealth who so readily respond to the plight of others . i particularly want of others. i particularly want to pay tribute to all those wonderfully kind people who so

give food or donate , or that give food or donate, or that precious commodity of all that time to support those around them in greatest need , together them in greatest need, together with the many charitable organisations which do such extraordinary work in the most difficult , our church is difficult, our church is synagogues, mosques , temples and synagogues, mosques, temples and good workers have once united in feeding the hungry, providing and support throughout the year . such hard felt solidarity is , . such hard felt solidarity is, the most inspiring expression of loving our neighbour as ourself . the prince and princess wales recently visited shining a light on practical examples of this community spirit . some years ago community spirit. some years ago i was able to fulfil a lifelong

wish to visit bethlehem and, the church of the nativity . there church of the nativity. there i went down into the chapel of the manger and in silent by the silver that is inlaid on the floor and, marks the place of our lord jesus christ's birth . our lord jesus christ's birth. it meant to me than i can perceive express to stand on that spot where. as the bible tells us , the light that has tells us, the light that has come into the world was born . come into the world was born. well, christmas is, of course a christian celebration . the power christian celebration. the power of lights , doctors is celebrated of lights, doctors is celebrated across the of faith and belief so whatever you have or whether you have none, it in this life giving and with the true

humility that in our service to others that i believe we can find hope for the future . let us find hope for the future. let us therefore celebrate it together and cherish it always with all my heart. i wish each of you a christmas of peace, happiness and everlasting light .

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well, merry christmas everyone. merry christmas to all of you here . from gb news and nana akua here. from gb news and nana akua to welcome on board cameron walker is our gb news royal reporter . he walker is our gb news royal reporter. he joins us live now

to react to the speech. cameron it's a lovely speech, wasn't it 7 it's a lovely speech, wasn't it ? it it's a lovely speech, wasn't it .7 it was indeed . nana good .7 it was indeed. nana good afternoon and merry . we just afternoon and merry. we just heard his majesty, the there his first speech as monarch his first speech as monarch his first christmas message as monarch inevitably the most dominant theme was paying to his late mother , her majesty, queen late mother, her majesty, queen elizabeth. the second he recorded that speech actually last week on the 13th of december in st george's chapel just metres actually from the queen's final, resting . and the queen's final, resting. and the lights and her late husband prince philip as well, he said he cannot thank us enough for our and sympathy following the of the queen referring back to the cards to the flowers that have been sent to his majesty the king and queen consort camilla as well. in the months following her death, he spoke of queen's everlasting light and the queen's faith in god's and

people, and said it's my belief which i share with my whole heart , since there are not heart, since there are not deaths , majesty is going to deaths, majesty is going to continue the life , continue the continue the life, continue the service of majesty, queen elizabeth, the second. another big theme , i think, was paying big theme, i think, was paying tribute to the public sex the pubuc tribute to the public sex the public services particularly , public services particularly, the armed forces, emergency services who you helped silence dunng services who you helped silence during the national mourning periods. yes but in the months since he specifically referred to teachers , he referred to to teachers, he referred to emergency services like he said , which is pretty significant, actually . clearly, in the last actually. clearly, in the last month, there's many public sector strikes. now, the king did mean incredibly impartial and did not refer to strikes clearly. you can see he is monarch, but the fact he referred specific to the public sector and thanks them for their work, i think is quite significant his majesty also referred to the cost of living

crisis . how referred to the cost of living crisis. how many families are already having to choose perhaps between eating , heating their between eating, heating their homes and the communities which are helping those most in need .7 are helping those most in need? we know his we understand that his majesty's made a private donation , a fuel poverty charity donation, a fuel poverty charity over the christmas period . so over the christmas period. so it's quite fitting, perhaps that he mentioned that in his speech. he mentioned the cost of living crisis. those communities that are helping, those in need. now, the king is , of course, head of the king is, of course, head of the king is, of course, head of the church of england and christmas is christian celebration fundamentally . and celebration fundamentally. and he recorded this of course a church but he wanted to mention religions, which he very much did . he mentions churches did. he mentions churches synagogues, mosques , temples, synagogues, mosques, temples, gurdwaras , and making sure gurdwaras, and making sure perhaps it's the because he has had , of course, in the united had, of course, in the united kingdom is the faith country. he wanted to make sure that the whole country felt perhaps included in the message of christmas, particularly that's of community love and support

and kindness for each other. but i think the overriding theme of all of that was selfless dedication, something which his majesty referred to his mother the late queen very much carrying on throughout her reign. and i think now from that speech it was very much us a sense that the king wants to continue his mother's legacy into the future as he continues with his reign over. the lovely speech, wasn't it, cameron ? i speech, wasn't it, cameron? i mean, really, the monarchy , such mean, really, the monarchy, such a wonderful institution , really a wonderful institution, really symbolises everything that this country stands for. and we really look forward to seeing how he reigns. of course, it's just the start of his reign. and then there's the coronation. do we know anything that as to whether it's going to be a big or whether it's going to be quite down? he was sort of quite down? so he was sort of making reference to the fact that he knows that the country is, working and is, you know, working hard and people really struggling . people are really struggling. yeah, there's been lots of rumours . what is or isn't is rumours. what is or isn't is going to be in the coronation

for. my understanding it's going to be a lot shorter than that of queen elizabeth. the second is in 1953, the stuff that is to be cut out perhaps is seen too outdated . but it is, from my outdated. but it is, from my understanding yes, that the king very much is aware of the cost of living crisis , people of living crisis, people struggling to pay their bills and things like that. but the government certainly as well as i think the royal who are very much taking the lead on organising the coronation wanted to have everything that's great about britain so the pomp the celebrations the ceremony the traditions of the anointing in westminster abbey the minute street procession of the parades that's to happen either side of the service itself all of that is very much going to stay because they want it to really celebrate britain on the global stage in this age of king charles affair so i don't think it's necessarily going to be a slimmed down budget version of a coronation, but there will

perhaps be modern and also we think we believe that will be a nod to the fact that there are many different, diverse living in great britain and the very much wants to reflect modern britain in the service. but we'll have to wait and see for the specific details. nana yeah, we will. i'm very excited that cameron walker thank you very much for joining now that cameron walker thank you very much forjoining now that is much forjoining me. now that is cameron walker he's royal cameron walker. he's our royal correspondent and. merry christmas to all of if you christmas to all of you. if you just b, welcome. i know just join b, welcome. i know it's christmas day. lot of you it's christmas day. a lot of you opening presents. got more opening presents. you got more presents still probably still eating well joining me today and nana akua by way, is tv nana akua by way, this is tv news but live on tv and on digital already will keep you company and company this afternoon and joining is keith joining me today is keith prince. a conservative prince. he's a conservative deputy chair of the london assembly and also author and divorce coach sara davies and you sad is . 43 now good question you sad is. 43 now good question yeah no it's right now i love it

it's lovely to be part of the panel but also us is political commentator azam dal a look at it allies . oh love you look it allies. oh love you look amazing . oh, thank you, darling. amazing. oh, thank you, darling. i wasn't sure whether to go the scarf, but then i thought, well, it's christmas, so i might as well. i love your hat. looking fabulous. thank you . try to keep fabulous. thank you. try to keep it festive. merry christmas, everybody . merry christmas. so everybody. merry christmas. so thatis everybody. merry christmas. so that is my panel for this afternoon and as well. so make sure you join me as i'm start with you and the king's speech. it's quite easy. he's got such a soft, warm, kind of nice voice . soft, warm, kind of nice voice. the king. yeah, yeah, yeah . i the king. yeah, yeah, yeah. i like the reference he made to the extraordinary of each individual to give so much. i thought that was very human. and his reference to the different multi faiths but . it's true you multi faiths but. it's true you know we do and in britain especially i think we do have the ability to give and we're very keen on giving. so i thought it's nice of him to reference that some of us get

more than 40 references and the reference matthew 19 oh, did you get any presents? yes, it did . get any presents? yes, it did. you know i did. i got a lamp that charges your phone . hey, that charges your phone. hey, nice star. welcome aboard. this is the first time you've been on the panel. the first time on the panel? yeah thanks for having me, by the way. thank you. very, very nice to talk to you about you then. what's going on? you here for christmas day? did you get presents? i but get any presents? i did, but actually i did my christmas last week that's what have my week and that's what i have my son christmas. yes, son for christmas. so, yes, i feel like i've turkey done feel like i've the turkey done all and but yeah, i'm all that and but yeah, i'm really here. yeah. really excited to be here. yeah. and king's speech, what did and the king's speech, what did you make of it? i loved it. i think he gave real strength, a real warmth, compassion. and i think all need that i think think we all need that i think the queen's passing made us all very and think having very uneasy. and i think having strong hopefully strong leader now, hopefully give us some peace and bit give us some peace and a bit more stability. i got more stability. well, i got a present. is my one present present. this is my one present today. oh, that's all. it's a candle. oh, candles light. lovely. no, thank you very much.

thatis lovely. no, thank you very much. that is my one present today. she's good to go. go and unwrap the presents i wrapped up for myself. i do that as well. i that absolutely yeah. yeah it's just in colombia it wasn't this one. i wonder who bought that. you did i say i'm wearing some of mine now is what i wrapped for myself. this is the thing that when i go christmas shopping and, i'm spending more money on myself. well, that's always a bad thing. it. so when charles is talking about giving us myself, it was great. it's great. but now this would be the time when people are sort of sitting around table, not sitting around the table, not the meal. you the family meal. and you probably relatives thinking yeah yeah going to go ? yeah when are you going to go? yeah, i think that's quite true actually. i think you know any time where you put everybody together on dylann roof, there's alcohol . yeah. the pressures do alcohol. yeah. the pressures do increase obviously. but hopefully people are enjoying their day and they're relaxing and having a bit of a time out from any conflicts and. just making the most of not working, maybe and of course enjoying the

king's speech as well as the coronation. looking forward coronation. i'm looking forward to yeah yeah. what to that as well. yeah yeah. what do you think? it's going to be fun. do you want a big affair for the coronation? no, i think it should should demonstrate it should it should demonstrate how at doing. how good we are at doing. no one. parades, one. does military parades, coronations england and coronations like england and britain. so i we should put on a really good show does anyone else of the king well quite a few countries actually. do they. so it was one be one country. well i think well, qatar got a prince isn't it . and belgium's prince isn't it. and belgium's got spain. spain well yes, yes. so a few of them are lying around here hanging about, but look, it's really good to have you both draw the me and of course, dowler. sam did you course, sam dowler. sam did you make of that lovely speech? you know, liked and you know, i really liked and you know, i really liked and you know obviously he's had it he's had a tough year, lost his mum and he talked about the poignancy christmas when poignancy of christmas when you've lost someone i lost my father december the sixth last yeah father december the sixth last year. so it's like i mean that was a write off so this is a more of a celebration and you know and i loved listening to

what charles said and obviously , you know, he had beautiful pictures of william , him as pictures of william, him as well, showing them doing tangible stuff blissfully . no tangible stuff blissfully. no mention of any kind of you . mention of any kind of you. family, politics which was which was lovely. not even a veiled jibe, which was which is really good. and just with what people need from the monarchy is like when it's like when the queen spoke during the pandemic brings people and it's showing people together and it's showing that it's and it makes us proud to be british. which is why i also think that there should be, you know, all the pomp and ceremony around like i mean of course there is cost of living crisis that's it's that just crisis but that's it's that just means it on tv means that if you're it on tv it's going to make any difference what how food you've got on the table how spend at the coronation is. in fact, you want to more splendid so that want it to more splendid so that you more think you enjoy it more so i think i think it. yeah well listen think for it. yeah well listen we're going to go for the we'll get little something hans to get a little something hans to do . but if you just do do as well. but if you just do me. thank you very much, sam, be joining the show joining us throughout the show as alongside prince

as well, alongside keith prince and davidson. with and sara davidson. you're with me. i'm not. this is gb news tv, onune me. i'm not. this is gb news tv, online and on digital radio. now, after the break, it's time for great british debate this out. and i'm asking, for great british debate this out. and i'm asking , should we out. and i'm asking, should we include vegans christmas include vegans in christmas lunch know lunch preparations? i know sounds a cruel, but vegan . i sounds a bit cruel, but vegan. i mean, look, there's nothing wrong vegan, wrong with being a vegan, but another roast . stay with me. another nut roast. stay with me. some of your thoughts. whatever email me what email gbviews@gbnews.uk me what you think on everything we're discussing also tweet at gb news. i'll be back in a few minutes. yeah,

we say good afternoon , merry say good afternoon, merry christmas. it'sjust say good afternoon, merry christmas. it's just gone. 3:23 o'clock on nana akua. this is a days where live tv online on digital radio. it is of course christmas day and lots of you at home will be busy cooking. you'll be doing stuff, maybe some of you eating . but are you

some of you eating. but are you catering to any special dietary requirements made requirements which have made things trickier in you things a bit trickier in you magazine recently recently complained about cooking for a vegan writing to the magazine agony aunts . she said, i'm upset agony aunts. she said, i'm upset with my son is in his late twenties for putting me, in a difficult position, he and his girlfriend were due to come for christmas she christmas lunch when she announced vague and announced that she's a vague and i'm cooking for nine and my son doesn't realise stress of adding extra meals that i have to keep separate during preparation. so does does she have a point? do people need to be more accommodating at different duchesne?i accommodating at different duchesne? i want to hear your thoughts. i'm certainly cooking for a vegan. nothing wrong with being vegan by the way. always something wrong with that. i don't know if we gbviews@gbnews.uk a tweet me at gbviews@gbnews.uk a tweet me at gb could vegan this gb news could you go vegan this christmas me to discuss this subject is keith prince and sara davidson . and also joining me at davidson. and also joining me at home is , sam dowler. davidson. and also joining me at home is , sam dowler . so what do home is, sam dowler. so what do you think? veganism good. you go vegan for christmas ? no, i vegan for christmas? no, i

couldn't love to see that . couldn't love to see that. you've got cold meats, hot like you eat meat, literally day to day and then just gives in. but i mean, i mean, my little niece who would say the christmas day is she is vegetarian . so we've is she is vegetarian. so we've made her vegetarian because in blankets and she's got a bit of nut rice. i mean she's she's only 11 so hopefully it'll pass but i mean, i, i have five other family members who came in from and, and i was saying what the cooking at the time and so it was my it was my nephews and i cooked vegan like i could be can chilli vegan spaghetti etc. and then they went travelling and she found in europe she couldn't get decent enough vegan food so she just went back to normal after made all that ever and but vegan chilli isn't chilli anyway. and spaghetti. i suppose they might be animal products and spaghetti basements wouldn't you . but you can and spaghetti basements wouldn't you. but you can make it obviously you know with something you can semi good

alternatives . i had a vegan bag alternatives. i had a vegan bag the other day and it was it was delicious. they're doing that. doing all the time. so i mean, but i obviously with the only pain a lot of pain is you're paying a lot of people. is a bit of a pain to people. it is a bit of a pain to keep stuff separate do they especially it's just added especially it's just an added pressure. you know when and i really it possibly really appreciate it possibly not let's see behind is just lovely is they like they is both behind you what is it must be some sort of doc or something. i mean. no i'm in devon at my mum's house so it's the river behind us . oh, that's beautiful. behind us. oh, that's beautiful. that's lovely . isn't that nice? that's lovely. isn't that nice? yeah, well this is. i'll stay there because we're talking veganism. that makes you a vegetarian i am obviously not having christmas dinner today or if you are and later i am. yeah what goes on then. what they don't really have make too many specials. no not at all. would have me yorkshire's mean brussels being a vegetarian , not brussels being a vegetarian, not as as being a vegan , but i as bad as being a vegan, but i have the linda mccartney mozzarella that has to absolutely die for. but that's

just cheese. you can have cheese they got yeah we know cheese and like a plant based burger what else is in its what makes me a bit suspicious of this stuff is when they call it a burger when it's not a bug. i want to what's in it. oh this is a burger but it looks a burger. what's it looks like a burger. what's in it. oh mushrooms , mushrooms, in it. oh mushrooms, mushrooms, mushrooms all the bits . put mushrooms and all the bits. put it together. i'm worried that a lot sequenced, just on lot of the sequenced, just on the of it, sounds like a the face of it, sounds like a very, you know, sensible thing do that they've to do the fact that they've got to get congeal together get it to congeal together they've to put different they've got to put different things in it not the things we'd normally in something more normally put in something more natural i think a natural foods. i think it's a lot it. not lot processed isn't it. not really it's, it's only really because it's, it's only plant it's that animals plant based, it's that animals and bits of guts of that animal. yeah. but this place is a go. so if i'm going to eat steak, i know that it's got that's come from a cow. it's got, that's what it is. but yeah but, but no delicious white guys they are okay. yeah. yeah but i'm up for that, you know. but if you like something called about because

it isn't the burger that you put the vegetables in, what else you put in there, there'll be emulsifiers stabilisers, all the other pieces, other bits and pieces, and that's worries about the that's what worries me about the vegan of diet. well that's vegan sort of diet. well that's for you to worry about because i worry about it. so what about you vegan? vegetarian? no, i've tried them all and i totally like rules, to be honest. so i set myself to many rules like you have this, you can't have that. then i end up craving a bacon sandwich or that dark you get. so yeah . so get. i love it. so yeah. so i found that if i just sort of 80% of the time stick to no meat and then like for christmas my son likes and because it's just me and him and my parents and they're vegetarians i have a bit of turkey with him. otherwise he's on his own. so i tend to sort of set the rules up to win, just be a bit flexible and yeah, it's more about health for me and feel better when i don't eat and feel better when i don't eat a of meat. so that's a lot of meat. so that's generally what i state. yeah, i think the general rule is don't eat too me, i mean that's eat too much me, i mean that's the don't eat much of the don't eat too much of anything, don't too many anything, don't eat too many sweets, much eat

sweets, don't do much fat, eat too salt, bit too much too much salt, a bit too much sugan too much salt, a bit too much sugar, just eat much sugar, just eat too much i should say too much yeah. everything. but if you're like an 8020 then christmas you an 8020 then christmas day you can you like because you can do what you like because you can do what you like because you can make up it another time. can make up for it another time. maybe you go vegan for a bit and then break for then just break it for christmas. yeah. what christmas. yeah. so that's what people well, i'm doing it, people say. well, i'm doing it, but start but it's going to start tomorrow. well went tomorrow. well well i went vegetarian one week, 38 vegetarian for one week, 38 years it's been very years later. it's been a very long why you go long week. why did you go vegetarian was in particular as a girlfriend. yeah, very persuasive. she persuasive. yeah, she was a vegan. said try for a week. vegan. said try it for a week. i went, okay i'll it for a week went, okay i'll do it for a week and 38 years later here i am. have ever spoken to her? and have you ever spoken to her? and you the system vegan or you know the system of vegan or vegetarian? yes, she is. she still. yeah. does she look good with then? respect her on with it then? i respect her on the sometimes when mean the phone sometimes when i mean and not to say because i and this is not to say because i mean were going need mean if you were going to need properly and you actually you know, use proper vegetables, things rather than things like that, rather than buying stuff, buying the packaged stuff, then a won't be can a lot of people who won't be can actually very healthy. actually get very healthy. but then had friend, i had then there's i had friend, i had one friend, least friend. one friend, at least one friend. and was vegan and all he

and he was vegan and all he would buy was like sweets and things like that because he said, there's no in said, oh, there's no meat in this meat in that. so this is no meat in that. so actually unhealthy. actually incredibly unhealthy. but lots but wasn't asking any meat, lots of sweets can't eat. they're not with certain sweets. yeah you just say rubbish basically. so my favourite sweets economy. how far go? if you've got far does go? if you've got someone who's vegan before christmas, to christmas, do you have to do vegan gifts as well? i mean, do you have to roll it that far or is it just the food but you might them something. is might buy them something. is leather, could oh leather, but how could you? oh that candle. what was it that candle. oh, what was it what in it? might have what was in it? you might have to clothes, all that. to buy vegan clothes, all that. i mean do you know any one. sometimes when i discussed people vegan and again like people who vegan and again like i is a cool way to eat if i say it is a cool way to eat if you it properly, it you do it properly, do it properly, understand that properly, you understand that the different types of omega three and how you have to eat this to get that amigos out of it and you understand that you're going to be lacking in certain nutrients. then you certain nutrients. so then you take supplements, then take the right supplements, then that's you do it that's great. but if you do it wrong, it could end up wrong, i mean, it could end up with of chronic with some sort of chronic illness yeah, it's no fun illness and yeah, it's no fun for anyone. i think you just

have to get knowledgeable if something to then something you want to do, then you doit something you want to do, then you do it properly like you got to do it properly like anything. what anything. i suppose so what would do if you like would you do if you like somewhere? for example, i'm. somewhere? so for example, i'm. but these they put people who are in the are very overweight in the middle this desert. this is middle of this desert. this is a very cell tv. they it in very old cell tv. they put it in the of nowhere and they the middle of nowhere and they were given very different things to eat. they would give and to eat. so they would give and they'd never eat. they'd say, i would never eat. then began, snake and this then they began, snake and this and don't eat snake. and that is i don't eat snake. in the end, obviously they ate this you if you say this food. would you if you say you're vegan and vegetarian , you you're vegan and vegetarian, you just say you were in a situation where it was either eat meat or die. well, if it's between me and the cow cows go , the cows go. oh and the cow cows go, the cows go. oh easy to get you? obviously, that is the thing, isn't it? it's all very well being. and i do sometimes think that this is almost like a these are third world problems is why i don't eating meat. you know, i'm and then you go somewhere where there's you have to there's no food and you have to eat is otherwise. yeah eat whatever is otherwise. yeah know survival know it's basic survival instinct and the way

instinct and i don't the way i look at it, i know animal has to die order for me to live so die in order for me to live so that's fine. but if it's between me and the animal, well, it's a different ballgame in interesting people can . interesting is how people can. you've all right you've changed keith. all right . yeah. well that's the thing. there's a what about you at home? i mean, as you're preparing a christmas dinner or you probably christmas you probably eaten the christmas dinner are dinner was difficult and are there different there lots of different alternatives go a very alternatives to go to a not very because i thought was pretty much all there was. well stay with this. got loads going with this. we've got loads going on special monologue on of special monologue for you at of 4:00. if you're at the top of 4:00. if you're just in, up to 33 just tuning in, it's up to 33 minutes 3:00. i'm done. minutes after 3:00. i'm done. this gb news on online and this is a gb news on online and on digital . don't forget, you on digital. don't forget, you can also stream live on can also stream us live on youtube can watch us youtube so you can watch us anywhere the now on the anywhere. the world now on the way we'll be joined by the queen all the chaplain, reverend gavin and we'll continue that great debate this hour. i'm asking could you go vegan for christmas? first, though, let's get latest headlines .

get your latest news headlines. nana, thank . this is the latest nana, thank. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the king has used his christmas broadcast to praise individual charities and faith groups supporting, those in need. he's also with households struggling with the cost of living crisis. speaking about the great anxiety and hardship people are facing , he hardship people are facing, he also highlighted the selfless dedication of the armed forces and emergency services. calling it a value embodied by the late queen. earlier he attended the royal family's traditional christmas day church service in. the king and the queen consort were joined by the prince and princess of wales. and that . princess of wales. and that. a 26 year old woman who was killed in pub in merseyside on christmas eve not thought to be the target , the attack. the target, the attack. merseyside police say she was celebrating christmas with friends and family when was killed. she was taken to hospital where she died. three men were also taken to hospital

with gunshot wounds after the incident at the lighthouse inn on the wirral . the archbishop of on the wirral. the archbishop of canterbury , given his christmas canterbury, given his christmas sermon paying to the late queen and remembering those who suffer immense anxiety and hardship. justin welby said there's unconquerable, hope despite conflicts around the world and the cost of living crisis . he's the cost of living crisis. he's also praised the example by the late queen, saying she a life of service and her interest after those she served . and the prince those she served. and the prince and princess of wales have shared a festive picture painted by their nine year old son, prince. for those listening to us on the radio, the painting shows a portrait, a reindeer in the snow with a sky blue background alongside two robins, and the message attached . the and the message attached. the picture says, merry christmas . picture says, merry christmas. tv online and tv plus radio is .

gb news. so welcome back. a merry christmas to you all. i'm queer. this is gb news on online and on digital right now. of course, our top stories this morning. king charles iii has made his first christmas address as monarch . i'm joined now by our monarch. i'm joined now by our dr. gavin ashenden, former chaplain to our late queen. you so much, gavin, forjoining us . so much, gavin, forjoining us. a pleasure to talk to you. so what do you think in the king's speech? how does it compare to his late previous christmas messages ? i thought it was very messages? i thought it was very good indeed, and it was wonderful. he's he's he's really stepped into her shoes in a very impressive way and agree great deal of thought had been given to speech. so it ticked all the boxes you'd want to take. he he talked about in in both god and people. and then as your commentators already said, he

moved through various groups. he wanted to give thanks to . he wanted to give thanks to. he sympathised with those who who lost a loved one. on the plus side, it was really very good indeed. however however , i think indeed. however however, i think there's. well, i think there's a minus that the problem is that it's a bit like watching a ship that's hold beneath waterline slowly sink . and at some point slowly sink. and at some point what you want to do is to stop it sinking and make sure that it floats. and i don't think the monarchy can float if it becomes a multicultural multi—faith monarchy. what been is a monarchy. what we've been is a very slow shift from being a christian monarchy to a multi—faith one. the problem is that you're either defender of the faith or you're not. and there are some very distinctive things about christianity which are, i think, play a very important role in sustaining way of life. and they are the importance of the individual as opposed to the group belong to the unique christian gift of turning the other cheek , turning the other cheek, forgiving your enemies, rather

than taking revenge on them. there's so much about christianity that is just directly responsible for our way of life in our culture . and i of life in our culture. and i think that if this movement into multiculturalism and multi—faith goes on, we'll lose the monarchy because the end i don't think it's i don't think it will be true to itself. so although he did fantastically well and a great credit to those helped him write the speech presented it . write the speech presented it. i'd like to see him as more of a christian monarch than a multi—faith monarch. well, why do you think that will mean that a slow creep into in a multi—faith will mean the decline of the monarchy ? i don't decline of the monarchy? i don't i don't see the connection as the monarchy needs to evolve with, you know , the world and with, you know, the world and the people within it . so i think the people within it. so i think it's a very reasonable point of view, and it all depends on whether take a kind of a nice view of the world or a more suspicious view of the world. if you take a nice view of the world, then what you say is exactly right. it's just a

matter of slow, cheerful evolution good rises evolution so that the good rises to and everyone lives to the top and everyone lives happily ever after. but i don't think that's the world we live in. live in world where in. we live in a world where there's for power and there's serious for power and where is being where christianity is being squeezed the public . squeezed out of the public. christianity has very distinctive and different opposite beliefs to many other world views , particularly on world views, particularly on sexuality and value of the individual and in fact, there are many, many now. you can't be employed as a christian, if, for example you hold to them to the christian belief of marriage between a man and a woman or traditional sexuality. so the problem that we're having at the moment is that christianity is under assault . now, the question under assault. now, the question is, what does a christian king do that? does a king save do about that? does a king save christianity ? is it. does he christianity? is it. does he become a defender of the faith, which is what his title really is? or as as charles has done with a slate of hands say, no, no, i'm i'm defender of all faiths, which means i don't have to defend christianity if you don't defend christianity will lose it from this country . we've

lose it from this country. we've already a situation where already had a situation where the a woman the police just arrested a woman because . she might have been because. she might have been praying place abortion praying near a place abortion centre. we face is a centre. the problem we face is a serious conflict of values and i don't think it can be the can't be a solution by just do you know what all the values the same. let's pretend everything is nice will is nice. i don't think nice will cut it and monarchy will. there are two ways of doing the monarchy. one is. one is the nice version and the other is the realistic version. i'd i'd the realistic version. i'd i'd the version of being a the realistic version of being a christian monarch and defending christian monarch and defending christian beliefs before christianity gets pushed out to the public square. but surely christianity evolve. so if it evolves , it survives. everything evolves, it survives. everything needs to evolve to survive it. even mankind evolution of mankind. we started one way then we evolved to combat viruses and things that were brought to. so what we were say maybe , 200 what we were say maybe, 200 years ago, our species is evolved and nothing. if things don't evolve, then they die. so with your analogy then, yes, christianity will be dead if it does not evolve. with the changing times beliefs of

mankind, but are saying that christianity needs to stay as it is and if it stays as it is, then then it dies. but that's with anything. no an absolute no. for example, if i was a muslim and you said that to me, one of the things that islam always says is, no, we absolutely don't evolve the koran. the koran society has adopt faith . islam is adopt to our faith. islam is absolutely clear about that. is dying, isn't . it's dying, certainly isn't. it's expanding. people like the comfort and the clarity of its value system . the same thing is value system. the same thing is true with christianity. we're not organic adapting not an organic adapting ourselves to somebody else . we ourselves to somebody else. we are people who had an experi inside the living god and the living says to humanity, if you want to survive, you behave like this. evolution is the wrong . in this. evolution is the wrong. in this. evolution is the wrong. in this case, it's much more like being adrift sea and finding a lifeboat and to avoid drowning. you grab the life belt. don't ask the lifeboat to evolve into some kind of other matter. you need a too badly. that's what. that's christianity is. it's a way of saving people's lives. it's true . but the lifeboat

it's true. but the lifeboat could evolve and be more efficient as well, and probably save more people if it changed a little bit. and i think, you know, when you talk about islam, i mean, sharia law, something that was constructed, it wasn't it's the koran. it has it's not in the koran. so it has evolved. things have changed within it because formed part of it so i think it now, hasn't it? so i think that you're wrong that that you're wrong to say that there's religions evolved, there's religions have evolved, but they've done it but i would that they've done it more would say more slowly. well, i would say that think if we if we take that i think if we if we take out the darwinian overtones and we say, then of course , we say, then of course, everything develops, of course it does it things grow organically. i agree with you entirely . but but the problem entirely. but but the problem with evolution is i think that you can the is the reason is of good use. one is something can evolve from from something to something completely if it develops. the question is, does it develop in a way that keeps its integrity with its foundational beliefs , both foundational beliefs, both christianity and islam say they have an absolute mandate to duty from god to develop a way that keeps their internal integrity.

so you're right, there has to be some development or some change. but the question is always going to be is, does it is the change, doesit to be is, does it is the change, does it remain and does it reflect the original integrity of the belief, or does it actually it and the church has faced that many times lots times the church has developed in a way that was untrue to its beliefs. and it's called repentance. you have to stop, say, sorry, turn around and go back to where you went wrong and start again. so there's good development in this and there's bad what and dr. bad development. what and dr. gavin ashland is very great. talk to you as the formal chaplain our late. thank you chaplain to our late. thank you so your time this so much for your time this lovely you. wow thank you. lovely told you. wow thank you. happy you so happy christmas. thank you so much. christmas. so much. merry christmas. so joining well today, kate joining me as well today, kate prince sara davidson , prince and also sara davidson, sydney is and keith sydney and also sam is and keith is a quarter hat. sydney and also sam is and keith is a quarter hat . so what do you is a quarter hat. so what do you think? what do you think about christianity? i mean he's basically sense if basically saying that a sense if king wants it to survive it needs to stay as it is, which is kind of what he's saying the wise multicoloured lives in terms of multi—faith won't

actually work. keith i know you're quite a religious person. what did think of what he what did you think of what he was your christian. was saying? your christian. i am. again . the problem am. i'm born again. the problem the king's got. well, not so much himself. the king's got. well, not so much himself . certainly some much himself. certainly some will have is that experts are predicting that by 2050 uk will be predominantly more than 50% will be muslim. so he must be looking at that and thinking if i make a big thing about just being the defender of the christian faith, where does that leave monarchy and where does that leave my son going forward? that's the dilemma that he has. well, i think that's why he's changing it and allowing it to grow. can attract grow. so that he can attract more people from more diverse environments. otherwise, if you stick with the you know, the concept of the notion that man , concept of the notion that man, the only right way to be married is man to woman, then we have a growing and diversity of, you know, faith, but also diversity of behaviour . well, and so it of behaviour. well, and so it needs to be all encompassing to

encourage people to join because ultimately it is about being good to each other and it's about love. not you about love. it's not will you have to this to that to love? have to be this to that to love? i sara, what do you think. i mean, sara, what do you think. well, i think the queen is very good at being popular with everybody, she? everybody, wasn't she? and i think it's really important that we with because we continue with that because it's fundamental part of it's such a fundamental part of being mean , we are being british. i mean, we are living i that living here. so, yeah, i that absolutely we need develop whether it evolve will whether you call it evolve will develop developing develop i think that developing and with the times and and moving with the times and bringing in as many people is as possible really possible i think is really important. interesting and he's the king of the united kingdom. so he's got to be king of everybody who lives in country. and he's wise to say multi—faith if this is what if what you've said is true, then there'll be lots of people who are muslim, more than christians. he more than christians. so he might be a person all might as well be a person of all faiths rather than just, oh, we'll do one. because we'll just do that one. because at when it was at the time when it was initiated, it was the biggest faith in this country. but to move because we saw that move on, because we saw that picture george is picture was that george is drawing is nine years old drawing that is nine years old that's very picture for that's a very good picture for a nine year old. that's exactly.

that's exceptional. yeah. i can't a picture that. well do you he drew that look you think he drew that mean look come seriously that's that's come on seriously that's that's like christmas like something on a christmas card. sorry you're. how old your son? he's he's like son? he's 14. he's14. he's like that. son? he's14. he's14. he's like that. 14, unfortunately. no, no, he can't. but that's not passion. maybe it's george's passion. maybe it's george's passion. he's a budding passion. maybe he's a budding artists. that's too good . artists. no that's too good. maybe what they mean is he coloured in. do you think ? coloured in. do you think? possibly positive for it. you should give him a red nose, though, should it? on a rudolph finish. hello, robin. on would it be even the drop it and so if you're just thinking right is a fantastic picture a reindeer sort of funny face with a little robin on of his antlers and robin on one of his antlers and sort of robin on the side of his back or on his behind was sort of back in picture with snow coming the background coming down the blue background . and it's just done. i mean , . and it's just done. i mean, even the ears, i mean, look at the edging. it is the hair, the chattering as well with this even shadowing on one side. i mean , come . on baby. he had

mean, come. on baby. he had a bit of help. maybe he had bit of help . what do you think? well, help. what do you think? well, my son can't draw that. well, he's 32 with a cold and i'm over 50. let's go to sam downer . do 50. let's go to sam downer. do you believe it's true that . you believe it's true that. yeah, i do. i mean, they're not going to they're not going to they're not going to lie about that. and it's like i mean, obviously was it might have had a little his auntie, a little help from his auntie, perhaps, because the is excellent. i mean, i did all a—level actually. and so when i was when i was his age, you know, my paintings didn't didn't look too far off. so maybe he maybe thinks he loves maybe he just thinks he loves art and it's is it is art and then and it's is it is and the reindeer looks snug and like in the robin's as well, which was a national bird believe so. so i think i think it's lovely and it's actually in the shape of a heart. if you look. mhm. so it's really quite sweet i can also i think know i agree with your guest that may be it should have been read to me for a little extra, you know, little extra story but i'm yeah

i think, i think it's marvellous andifs i think, i think it's marvellous and it's nice that they are proud of his, his work. so i think it's beautiful and i wanted to ask you because i didn't ask about this, are you a religious person? what do you think of gavin's view on the fact on christianity in that it's a dying faith ? and if the it's a dying faith? and if the king wants to the monarchy to survive a needs to stick with these sort of original of philosophy of that , i think was philosophy of that, i think was talking a lot about rot, philosophy of that, i think was talking a lot about rot , to be talking a lot about rot, to be honest with you . and the church honest with you. and the church has to change and develop and become because obviously people are leading the charge the of things like like you brought up like about same sex marriage for example like i was i went to i went a gay wedding in the summer a methodist church and the vicar was she was it was very moving because she was like, you know it's the first time we've had a gay marriage in this in this

church. it was in a church. it was real christian wedding and even with one of your i got into a spat one of your presenters calvin who said that isn't course that isn't a christian wedding it's not a christian wedding it's not a christian wedding because it's you know, because it was a gay wedding. but was in methodist church but it was in a methodist church and was done a vicar. so i and it was done by a vicar. so i mean, it's that kind of they one one side things, one thing and almost like things thing almost like things another thing like just it's not just like it's not just it's not just gave , for example, would be gave, for example, who would be like, why would want like, oh, well, why would i want to of the church that to be a part of the church that doesn't want be part of it, doesn't want to be part of it, but it doesn't want to be part of it, butit be doesn't want to be part of it, but it be like everyone but it would be like everyone surrounding well, all the surrounding as well, all the well ones, so that's well loved ones, etc. so that's exactly going being exactly going backwards, being more will only more traditional. we will only put in coffin. put more nails in the coffin. it's ridiculous. well, it's ridiculous. yeah, well, i share view. yeah, she share that view. yeah, she sounds to talk to you. sounds lovely to talk to you. stay and as i said, stay with us. and as i said, this nothing without you and this is nothing without you and your visits. welcome our great voice, opportunity voice, your opportunity to tell us you think the us what you think about the topics were discussed. let's go topics were discussed. let's go to have chat with to watford have a chat with david. david farmer like david how you doing nana. david. david farmer like david how you doing nana . how are you how you doing nana. how are you doing? i'm happy christmas at

the present because it's what's going on in your christmas then. where is everybody? where are your family? what are they doing doing ? that was frozen. oh no, doing? that was frozen. oh no, he's frozen . i want to do he's frozen. i want to do a little madonna there. i want to be that frozen song. you remember that? yeah do you remember that? yeah do you remember that? yeah do you remember that ? yeah. so, listen, remember that? yeah. so, listen, what. what what do you think then? the church, then in summary then because i think if doesn't involve its dead. that's my view. well you've only got to go to a lot of the more traditional churches and i was in a church the other day and they went oh we had 28 people turn up today. but i go to the tabernacle in lewisham from to time that has like a hundred people turn up on a sunday. yes. to a fault. what's going on with that. that's different to the other one. is it like is it one of those where from singing it. yeah he's he's pentecostal. we saw beginning when we do saw the beginning when we do praise and worship he's being a rock concert. yeah and the

rock concert. yeah and also the message about how god message is more about how god will help you. what you have to do yourself and it's not do to help yourself and it's not it's not so much preach is more teaching and it more involving. yeah yeah. do you go to church, sir. no, i don't, i don't. but i do think that. you know, i think in this day and age, everyone is a lot more anxious. there's a lot of things going on right now that make people worry a lot of tension. so i think yeah, absolutely a good space. absolutely was a good space. i used just like the bit used do i just like the bit where it says i you peace the peace i gave you then we just shake hands. that was my favourite bit. let's get back to david. thought we've david. thought that we've unfreeze one unfreeze him thank you one frozen now you talk to us frozen now can you talk to us better your better so totally about your christmas what's going on christmas and what's going on with your family we've got half a here today tomorrow we a family here today tomorrow we get out of form they son or daughter in and a fabulous granddaughter who's four so this is her first proper christmas wish the fun of christmas about giving but i was listening to the debate it's but the one

thing that the traditionalists is the basis believe of all religion is to be good people to help people and not so much about being a temple or a synagogue. i'm being a synagogue will be a mosque. it's about what's right. so what's proper and we should be helping people regardless of what their beliefs are . and that is very true. are. and that is very true. david wilson, merry christmas to you and enjoy you. take that out. actually, guests in the studio hopefully see you next yeah studio hopefully see you next year. yeah merry christmas. merry christmas. merry christmas, christmas. david he's at he's jewish. is celebrating christmas and hanukkah. i think . yeah, but but no. a hanukkah something . it is christmas. but something. it is christmas. but today's christmas. hanukkah different days such it is . yes different days such it is. yes it is the which what was the 18 to 26 is hanukkah. yeah so why that that makes you happy incredibly apposite . they're incredibly apposite. they're celebrating hanukkah. that's

what they're celebrating. and so listen . but his point is true listen. but his point is true for me. okay. so the church the problem that we're having with the church is that it's too busy sort of messing around with the minutia. it's a joke. and you're going to get married in this fun. you can't marry a and instead of the actual message, which is supposed to be about kindness love, forgiveness enjoy, rather, you know, all this sort of what they're messing about with and also it's bonng. messing about with and also it's boring . boring. i mean, like i, boring. boring. i mean, like i, i went to catholic school, run by this is the holy sepulchre . by this is the holy sepulchre. it was, you know, fantastic. but it boring church was boring that was why i love that bit when you shake hands and then when the when you have the bread you go up and you add that a little super wine. oh yeah i lived for that. well that's what you get a pentecostal church. it's much more vibrant, much more, much fun, and it should be fun. you the core message, you know, jesus says , you know, love thy jesus says, you know, love thy neighbour like thyself . the core neighbour like thyself. the core message. matthew 1919. but it is

about not what you can do for yourself. it's what you can do for others. so as a christian do you do use of consternation? a man in a man should be married and that sort of thing . i've and that sort of thing. i've i've grown to believe that that's acceptable . originally that's acceptable. originally i wasn't really too much in favour of that because . it's a very, of that because. it's a very, very clear teaching in the in the bible but for me, i think and i actually went to a gay marriage not that ago and it was great and thought, well, okay, you know, that's where are with that isn't it. it's called change whatever you want to say , if you want to survive, you have to. right. well, you know, if you just tuned welcome on board. a jeb use there's board. this is a jeb use there's still loads to come do not go anywhere in the .

next it's go to 4:00 here with me i'm nana akua this is on tv online and on digital video on the way i'll be delivering my special christmas monologue for you this afternoon. so do go anywhere. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . but first, let's get your latest news headlines. nana, thank you very much. this the latest from the gb news ring the king has used his christmas broadcast to praise individual charities and faith supporting those in need . faith supporting those in need. he's also sympathised with households struggling with the cost of living crisis. speaking about the great anxiety and hardship people are facing, he also highlighted the selfless dedication of the armed forces and emergency , calling it

and emergency, calling it a value embodied by the late