good evening and welcome to a boxing day special of tonight, live with me, stephen, and for the brilliant dan wootton and. we have a packed show tonight coming over the next 2 hours. do we need to buy presents for kids, too young to know what christmas is. kids, too young to know what christmas is . is it okay have christmas is. is it okay to have a curry christmas day.7 our strikes the high streets rishi sunak causes a stir at a homeless shelter and the king's speech is dissected with david starkey plus plenty chat with my brilliant panel, including the full paper review at 1030. but first, let's the latest news headunes first, let's the latest news headlines with rae addison .

headlines with rae addison. thanks, dave. here's the latest . the gb newsroom police say a young woman killed in a merseyside pub shooting is not believed to have been the gunman's target . 26 year old gunman's target. 26 year old elle edwards was at the lighthouse pub on christmas eve when the incident took place . when the incident took place. four men were also treated for gunshot wounds. a search for the gunman is still ongoing. gunshot wounds. a search for the gunman is still ongoing . a 10th gunman is still ongoing. a 10th person has died as a result. gunman is still ongoing. a 10th person has died as a result . an person has died as a result. an explosion at a block of flats , explosion at a block of flats, jersey, earlier this month. three year old kathy mcguinness died in hospital on christmas day . the blast which happened died in hospital on christmas day. the blast which happened on the of december, destroyed a building st helier. an investigation still underway . at investigation still underway. at least 55 people are believed to have died as a result of a severe arctic freeze that continues to grip much the us and canada. say 25 people have been killed in buffalo in new york state where temperatures

dropped as low as minus nine across the us and canada thousands of flights have been cancelled and more than 150,000 homes are still without power . homes are still without power. the uk's rail networks have been a standstill today as members of the union held strike over pay. hundreds of trains usually run on boxing , hundreds of trains usually run on boxing, but that hundreds of trains usually run on boxing , but that they've all on boxing, but that they've all been cancelled . 20,000 eurostar been cancelled. 20,000 eurostar passengers also forced to make alternative plans as it cancelled services to london, paris, brussels and amsterdam . paris, brussels and amsterdam. and boxing day shoppers may have defied and boxing day shoppers may have defied expectations with early data, suggesting that footfall has actually risen. industry analyst say it may have increased by as much as half when compared to this time last year. when compared to this time last year . it follows concerns that year. it follows concerns that the cost of living crisis coupled with rail strikes may have kept people at home. earlier barclaycard said the average customer intended to spend 4% less than in 2021 were

on tv, online and the plus radio. you're watching gb news back now to stay . back now to stay. welcome along to our boxing day special live tonight live with me stephen ireland. coming up on tonight's show , buying expensive tonight's show, buying expensive gifts for children takes away from the true meaning of christmas, which is receiving . christmas, which is receiving. i'll prove to you by the presence bought for young relatives were the biggest waste of money you've ever made. are we obliged to have traditional christmas lunch? well, apparently not. some like to have indian takeaways. tonight, sophie cochrane will be talking through her christmas dinner decisions with chef and restauranteur giancarlo calle desi. and plus football is back after a long break. premier league football returns . league football returns. following this year's world cup in, qatar. we'll be soaking

through results with a asking ten footballers in doge over . ten footballers in doge over. boxing day is well known for its sales, but figures have shown that this year's footfall is much lower than shoppers with shoppers staying home. all these the effects of the cost of living crisis , the rail strikes. living crisis, the rail strikes. well, simply because high street is failing . we'll get into that is failing. we'll get into that with social and political commentator lizzie zita. and with me throughout the show is my brilliant all star panel of social policy and writer dr. ricky hahn, former mep and political commentator belinda. beunda political commentator belinda. belinda lucy and. ethnographer and academic dr. lisa mackenzie joins me. but before all of that it's joins me. but before all of that wsfime joins me. but before all of that it's time for my big opinion. well, we've done . we made it well, we've done. we made it through christmas . it's over. through christmas. it's over. any rooms with a family are done and can be left to fester for

just of 12 months. no more cards . no more crackers. and only days left of eating turkey . we days left of eating turkey. we don't have to listen to any christmas songs anymore, which is wizards. i wish it could is good wizards. i wish it could be christmas every day. i've got problems that at end. the problems with that at end. the choir sings when the snowman brings snow. that's not how brings the snow. that's not how snow works. you need snow to have snowmen . the snowman have snowmen. the snowman doesn't bring the snow. it's not like biggest like a milkman. but the biggest problem with that song is the main premise. you wish could main premise. you wish it could be christmas every . that would be christmas every. that would mean day you have to mean that every day you have to give gifts and the would give people gifts and the would be open for you to buy any be never open for you to buy any sounds like festive sounds more like a festive stress. our stress. do you think our obsession with gifts is taking the edge off christmas as a new father? many people have asked me, what do you get your little lad his first christmas? lad for his first christmas? nothing he's nine months old. he'll never know unless he watches back at some stage. but there's no way he could understand any of it. the best we could hope for is that he thinks annoying that i've been wrapping toys he wants to play with. he have object

with. he doesn't have object permanence age. when permanence at that age. so when he something , he he can't see something, he doesn't that it still doesn't understand that it still exists time hand him exists. every time you hand him a l exists. every time you hand him a , he can't be sure it's not a toy, he can't be sure it's not a toy, he can't be sure it's not a new one. for every day a new one. so for him, every day is christmas. a new one. so for him, every day is christmas . now a new one. so for him, every day is christmas. now i a new one. so for him, every day is christmas . now i know where is christmas. now i know where the buying gifts young the buying of gifts for young children in the children comes from in the christmas i still christmas story, but i still think have any need think a newborn have any need for frankincense myrrh. for gold. frankincense myrrh. i'm a fully grown man and my use is . buying is still minimal. buying expensive gifts for young children. it's not about the child, is it ? children. it's not about the child, is it? it's about children. it's not about the child, is it ? it's about status. child, is it? it's about status. bragging rights to look good on your whatsapp group, to your friends, what you did. friends, to show what you did. meanwhile, all your baby actually, you . actually, for christmas is you. and that's another annoying christmas song . there's no christmas song. there's no way. oh, wants for christmas. oh, she wants for christmas. there's one person, mariah . come there's one person, mariah. come on. heard of your list of on. we've heard of your list of demands. your rider, whenever you you fresh you do a gig. if you fresh puppies dressing room, puppies for your dressing room, you're going to be a nightmare puppies for your dressing room, yo christmas. to be a nightmare puppies for your dressing room, yo christmas. to don't nightmare puppies for your dressing room, yo christmas. to don't night think at christmas. i don't even think the cliche of dressing kids as christmas puddings is a good idea . i didn't do that with idea. i didn't do that with mine. in fact , let's say that's mine. in fact, let's say that's my thanks my inner my gift to him. thanks my inner ebenezen my gift to him. thanks my inner ebenezer. there are now photos of little lad dressed as

of my little lad dressed as christmas food for him to be embarrassed about when he's a teen. welcome, son. am teen. you're welcome, son. am i being too tight in comparison to this person ? yes. comparison to this person? yes. comparison to the mum was in the news for the mum who was in the news for spending thousands more than spending thousands on more than 40 gifts for her to children one aged three, the other 17 months. well, it's a great way to help those children to grow up into entitled materialistic will definitely be a nightmare to date and you in the date. and i guarantee you in the future you can these kids if future you can ask these kids if they remember that year when their mum them haul toys so their mum them a haul of toys so big looks like she probably has compromising photos of santa and they won't remember. to be some of the toys included a mini , a of the toys included a mini, a broom and a mop set. maybe they're hoping that these toys offset the need for a cleaner. and did we know about this grottoes worth of gifts? because you put facebook . course you put it on facebook. course she it's all showing how she did. it's all showing how good you are to your of friends, not to your children. just get yourself a stock image of loads of that and spend of toys, post that and spend some kids. some quality time your kids. you'll effect . you you'll have the same effect. you don't me bragging about what

don't see me bragging about what i did over christmas on social media. it the old fashioned media. i do it the old fashioned way. on tv. it's way. talk about it on tv. it's strange that we're looking at this obsession with money and stuff we head into. a stuff with us as we head into. a cost of living crisis. i've tried to my son. tried explain this to my son. that his gift having that part of his gift was having the on, but it didn't the heating on, but it didn't seem to impressed. he didn't have the zero gifts this year, though because he's got relatives who are me . some relatives who are like me. some people him some gifts . he people bought him some gifts. he had open on had presents to open on christmas , but couldn't christmas day, but he couldn't because he's nine months. his little fingers can't get through the stereotype and apparently i'm not allowed to give him a knife help. i mean, i'm knife to help. i mean, how i'm meant good dad. if my meant to be a good dad. if my hands but seriously, hands are tied. but seriously, buying expensive gifts for babies total the child babies, a total waste. the child care and all you do is make shops busy busier for all of the parents with children who can't escape the shopping hassle. let me . you think. views. me know. you think. gb views. news dot uk gb views that gbnews.uk. thank you for tuning in tonight and i send this to my star panel and let's have fun .

star panel and let's have fun. so reacting to my big opinion monologue tonight on my brilliant panel, dr. rocky as han belinda deluise and dr. mackenzie, couple of doctors in the house. i'll be all right if i collapse. so coming up, the big question the commentator. we'll be talking about that in a but the idea. let's turn to my panelidea but the idea. let's turn to my panel idea buying gifts for panel idea of buying gifts for babies . so panel idea of buying gifts for babies. so waste time isn't babies. so waste of time isn't it? yes well, i'm all a little bit hesitant in judging parents too much because i think everyone tries to be the best they can be. and it's really hard not to spoil your kids. but the fool, i mean , used to wrap the fool, i mean, used to wrap up bubble wrap for my like two three year olds. i sometimes recycle presents because all they love doing ripping at the paper and just chucking whatever was inside behind their shell was inside it behind their shell to recode, you give them to recode, you know, give them last presents next year last year presents the next year and wouldn't even what and they wouldn't even know what kids under is not kids remember under is not present. so what you get but it's the smell of the christmas tree. it's family walks, it's

kissing granny's prickly chin like it's wonderful memories of christmas it's become a little bit too materialistic and really i do think it's about showing rather you know, what's rather than, you know, what's best for the kid. yeah. rocky have you got any memories from the if tributes now? i've all looked at the looked at the list of presents . i think the oldest of presents. i think the oldest child that she has is three years of age. so don't really understand how a nintendo switch could be that useful. i think that's the kind of gift you could provide to your child or indeed children when they're a little bit older, when they actually have the cognitive abilities to appreciate and use those kind of presents. so i for me a little bit over the top. yeah, i mean there i suppose an argument that some those gifts you could buy ostensibly for the children but actually you just want them yourself mean lisa is that a terrible move is wrong of me to even have that thought thinking nintendo switch got my name written it. well, name written all over it. well,

i been knocking over i mean, i've been knocking over instagram last days instagram the last few days because my christmas has been quite boring. i my son is 34, and i didn't buy him a gift. he lives with me. and his gift is he gets to be warm and fed . this he gets to be warm and fed. this yean he gets to be warm and fed. this year, though i've been looking at people's instagram photos, and i think you're right. there's just hundreds of people putting like these massive piles presents. and i always , you presents. and i always, you know, what was going to happen , know, what was going to happen, you know, as the years go on, are you going to have to keep buying more and more every year to sort of make for you know, we did this last year. you 40 presents last year you is they you know when does they stop and you know when does they stop and you i've been and again i'm you know i've been and again i'm a sociologist so i think about this seriously you know with a cost of living crisis, this really should stop . actually, it really should stop. actually, it should stop because , you know, should stop because, you know, next year , once the heating next year, once the heating bills start in, people are not going to be out of the ability to do it. most people won't of

the ability. so i think i don't know what to do in last hurrah this year and hoping that this be the best christmas as a because actually is going to be awful . but i because actually is going to be awful. but i do think that a lot of parents going to set themselves up for fail for next yeah themselves up for fail for next year. well i think we see so much material is going to plunge people into an even deeper crisis . i people into an even deeper crisis. i think they people into an even deeper crisis . i think they really have crisis. i think they really have to be careful in terms of really , of course, you want people to enjoy christmas in their own way, but there is the added of pressure, especially with the cost of living crisis, which means that people should try and be a bit more fiscally responsible , all of them as responsible, all of them as well. you know, one kids, when they going to school and they start going to school and they start going to school and they to start saying, they start to start saying, well, i got this for christmas and for christmas, and i got that for christmas, you know are to be you know there are going to be some that didn't of some kids that didn't any of that or got to i think that stuff or got to i think i think the best present that you can give your child a parent is a stress free relaxed happy mummy and daddy in no debt at all. not stressed out queuing

for the latest toy and also quality time i mean that's what children love about christmas is the and the family games and the board games and you're making a world your own buck if you start getting crazy for them when they're three, what are you going be them when going to be getting them when they're keep them happy? they're 15 to keep them happy? so a bit of role for so yeah, a bit of a role for your back getting them your own back getting them expensive just your own back getting them expemore just your own back getting them expemore point just your own back getting them expemore point the just your own back getting them expemore point the peoplet your own back getting them expemore point the people post one more point the people post thing on social media platforms such as instagram by all of the presence that they've received or the presents they're or the presents that they're giving to others. i think much of that should just be kept private. but one thing we really demonstrate is how that devil take the how hindmost materialism has really taken hold in british society and not something i'm very fond of. oh what christmas oh, you what christmas is about. oh, you should keep private. should keep it private. you might get asked , but we know a might get asked, but we know a child , you know, you've got to child, you know, you've got to keep that kind of thing a little under the idea of the safety thing about people. we were all told not pictures our told to. not pictures of our presence social media in case presence on social media in case people around make people came around and make them. few of the

them. yeah i've a few of the parcels the tree were actually from the cat litter tray. i think they did me a favour they took house all, all took out the house but all, all we point about we we be missing the point about we can all very high and mighty can be all very high and mighty and say should be private, shouldn't on media, shouldn't be on social media, shouldn't be on social media, shouldn't but shouldn't be materialistic. but there endorphin rush shouldn't be materialistic. but there posting endorphin rush shouldn't be materialistic. but there posting somethingrush shouldn't be materialistic. but there posting something that one about posting something that one ups your friends and i think that might be bigger driving force here . belinda that's not force here. belinda that's not about kids, though, it? i about the kids, though, is it? i mean, that's the problem, isn't it? it's not going to make you more likeable with friends more likeable with your friends ehhen more likeable with your friends either. to make either. so you know how to make enemies remember enemies face. i mean, i remember the late seventies , early the late seventies, early eighties. i was a kid then and that was just when branded sportswear started to come in and for the first time, some kids started realise they didn't have the things as other kids. and i think that has got much over the years the pressure for parents to buy things because of the families have got them. i don't think any of this to be honest. i know we're laughing about it, boys. that is actually if you're that kid that doesn't

love nintendo it's you love the new nintendo it's you know your life can be pretty miserable it can be a race to the bottom in poorer communities yes as well. yeah and the debt that people will take on low you know, the loans that could be around payday loans. i mean there is a real serious issue around well i make sure all my kids have a job as soon as they can whether it's babysitting waitressing . they save waitressing. they then save up their to get things their own money to get things they really want. and i think in a them a better a way that gives them a better sense work what you earn sense of hard work what you earn the value of things rather than relying mummy daddy relying on mummy and daddy to get everything ever get you everything you've ever wanted. earn it, wanted. they have to earn it, they to buy and they have to buy it. and christmas our is christmas time in our house is more little buy their more little things. buy their own more own things, there's more sighs when something that when you own something that you've hard graft, you've for your own hard graft, isn't ? yeah, but we are isn't it? yeah, but we are talking about children at the age a that's about to work at age of a that's about to work at three lots of cheap ivy league. i mean but how do we how do we solve it going forwards though. because if anything it's going to get worse much as we can sit here this year and this trend of

people showing off on social media, there's no doing it now. the is out the bottle, the genie is out of the bottle, isn't. and that's what isn't. yeah. and that's what this oh, this is why it this. what? oh, this is why it worries me about the families can't keep all the families that are not with all the will in the world and you know does that mean don't love their children as much as other people who's got everything and think when got everything and i think when people's love for their children is shown through things that are given , i mean, that becomes very given, i mean, that becomes very quite dark. but isn't that the parent's responsibility to bring up children who are greater and acknowledge their parents ? you acknowledge their parents? you know, i'm in charge of how my children respond to presents. so if my children are sort of saying i want more. this isn't good enough. then on me as a parent, you know, i don't tell the kid in the class that when everybody's what do you everybody's going, what do you think peer pressure is? think the peer pressure is? yeah, yeah. what get? yeah, yeah. what did you get? what you what did you what did you get? what did you get? that didn't get? and that kid that didn't but up children but you can't bring up children to a resilient about to be a bit resilient about those things . i think the those things. i think the problem starts in the home and i

think if you can bring up children, call them what you call my children. be resilient. poverty. that's not not poverty . to pay a presence in classroom, you're saying is everyone should receive gifts of the same value. i don't think i've ever seen a panel on gb news be such a bunch socialist . news be such a bunch socialist. oh no. i think it's great. look, parents can do what they like. everyone's to spend whatever money they like on their children. and i do think we were too judgemental parents you too judgemental on parents you know enough know they go through enough you waking morning feeding know they go through enough you wakitaking morning feeding know they go through enough you wakitaking care morning feeding know they go through enough you wakitaking care like»rning feeding know they go through enough you wakitaking care like»rning got ing and taking care like we've got to slack and it's so to parent some slack and it's so easy to spoil children but i don't think that's most parents goals but i do think we need to focus bringing children to be focus bringing children up to be you hard working themselves you know hard working themselves and the and also very grateful the little things for time with little things and for time with their material goods their rather than material goods their rather than material goods the reasons why kids don't are they are there is risk as you say about present inflation effectively . i've always thought effectively. i've always thought this with relationships you don't want to go year one don't go big with valentine's day

otherwise the rest of us like kyle and you will split up. i suppose you can't really split from your kids, but if you starting when they're 17 starting big when they're 17 months, where you to months, where are you going to go to that as a graph? go to employ that as a graph? the gifts versus cost the price of gifts versus cost of living crisis . it's not going of living crisis. it's not going to end well for people, is it going the same budget going keep the same budget i reckon you know reckon because you never know where be the where you're going to be the next year. it's the same birthday parties. do you spend thousands old's thousands on a two year old's birthday party they're birthday party when they're never going to remember? it's more parents than the more for the parents than the child. where do you child. and then where do you go when holiday in when they're 16. holiday in barbados. mean is the barbados. i mean this is the problem. expectation for the problem. the expectation for the following really following year if you really overdo the child previous overdo it the child the previous year kind of year that's you've got kind of maintain budget maintain a moderate you budget every know can make every year so you know can make it the i think if want to it the i think if you want to have celebrate of how to have bigger celebrate of how to have bigger celebrate of how to have more extravagant occasions is probably better to do that with more milestones like with older more milestones like 18th or 21st as opposed 18th birthday or 21st as opposed to three years. and that was the sweet 16 thing, was an american mean. honestly think come mean. i honestly think come march next year when all energy triple, i think a lot of this is

going to be taken out of our hands. yeah. you know, i'm not sure we're going to be you know, i that next christmas in a way there is going to be a discussion about children of not a christmas dinner. discussion about children of not a christmas dinner . yeah well a christmas dinner. yeah well thank you very much for that. you can keep your thoughts coming through on that, too. coming up, the question commentator sophie cochrane and giancarlo collard lock horns over whether acceptable to have a curry for your christmas dinner. don't go anywhere. we're back.

in three. welcome back. let's get stuff back in. and now it's time for this this . this this. tonight, there are some traditions you can't do without stockings. mistletoe, cheri . but stockings. mistletoe, cheri. but those are the details that pertain to a court case i've got coming up next year. so we'll move of the traditions that move on of the traditions that enjoy christmas roast is enjoy the christmas roast is surely at the top. so when someone messes with it, it can cause such upset. it's political commentator, recall crumb commentator, self recall crumb posted on social media posted this on social media picture her christmas day picture of her christmas day dhindsa she was going for a christmas day curry the post has been viewed millions of times such is the anger that this . such is the anger that this. refusing to have a proper traditional christmas roast may

be an affront to all that is british and i will make sure she never allowed on this station again . joining never allowed on this station again .joining me now never allowed on this station again . joining me now to talk again. joining me now to talk about this , sophie cochrane about this, sophie cochrane herself chef giancarlo calle herself and chef giancarlo calle dc . let's start , sophie, explain dc. let's start, sophie, explain yourself yourself . well, you yourself yourself. well, you know, christmas for me is about ready to eat whatever . you want ready to eat whatever. you want so if you want to eat too. tobler into the milk, try at 6 am. you do, you son. so for me personally, i want my favourite food. my favourite food is , a food. my favourite food is, a curry to be specifically the curry has to be specifically the one from tescos by the way, know a permitted and i just a curry is permitted and i just don't like roast in it i think roast in it great. not a fine roast in it is great. not a fine potatoes , any of other potatoes, any of the other stuff. and the thing that stuff. and the only thing that really the yorkshire so really it is the yorkshire so i've never it in a sunday roast and i do not want eat one and and i do not want to eat one and i a curry for christmas, i have a curry for christmas, the my family doing sunday the rest my family doing sunday so don't see so we always do you don't see there's a slight mismatch between you say you can eat whatever you want then you having of about having a list of rules about a curry should what a christmas

day be. if there are some day curry be. if there are some rules just for one day out of the year, why don't you stick to and christmas dinner? and have a christmas dinner? i mean , it's my personal rules for mean, it's my personal rules for my curry of preference. i think tesco microwavable curry, the best curry. but again, my food opinions really be judged as a half probably proved the outrage of my curry for christmas, but no, i think christmas is to be enjoyed and i just don't get raised enough. so have a curry for christmas . well, as a man for christmas. well, as a man who knows his way around some food, what's your take on this ? food, what's your take on this? oh, it's very shocking . i oh, well, it's very shocking. i mean, i think what we tend to forget is tradition and what the food evokes. our senses to remember. beautiful days days that really matters to us . and that really matters to us. and obviously a roasting hour of cooked is amazing thing to have. and also brings the family together . it's a different level together. it's a different level of together and unfortunately i

cannot agree with this people have simple from from from anywhere you like. i mean i find that very sad you've got to have that very sad you've got to have that was very sad. it wasn't happy and it didn't show any any intent of christmas , any intent of christmas, any household in great britain. i mean , my christmas time in italy mean, my christmas time in italy my mom used to make a lasagne , my mom used to make a lasagne, then we used to have a cake for not not a turkey. so a large chicken and then panettone so often in panettone and immediately go back. 60 years ago with my mother is toasting them made up out of the wonderful you should feel that food brings you back to what you are, where you belong and things had when you were young. i can understand , you know, one day understand, you know, one day you can have something unusual because you haven't got time to cook it. but to say that is gross, sorry, is that doesn't right because you must have it some roast which really it can be cooked but i don't by who. yeah, but if your roasts are

worse than a microwavable , do worse than a microwavable, do you know what i mean ? it doesn't you know what i mean? it doesn't point to it so just really particular. i just don't like roast and i love curry. my microwavable curry is my favourite food . everything, by favourite food. everything, by the way, like this tuscan curry in the roast dinner and obviously you to have a roast dinner if i may. so let's see. let's put to the test and see what you really think you lost the delusion to do. put us in touch. the delusion to do. put us in touch . you come in and then say touch. you come in and then say what you think because to me this is i don't say is offensive by any means but it really stirs me up i feel very stirred . i me up i feel very stirred. i really do . and i believe in my really do. and i believe in my abilities . i really do. and i believe in my abilities. i believe in what i do and i believe people, as importantly that you have when you're a child and then something done properly is so delicious with it's just a christmas. it's not christmas

without sitting down with the family, having dinners, which really makes sense . you know, really makes sense. you know, you go bread, bread sauce , you you go bread, bread sauce, you go cranberry sauce. you get your sausages, you go your turkey . sausages, you go your turkey. thatis sausages, you go your turkey. that is not too dry. it's not probably my little dish. just put that nicely . and suddenly put that nicely. and suddenly you you warm you, you cook everything around you it and that's bottle of a couple of things . that's bottle of a couple of things. sophie, is that's bottle of a couple of things . sophie, is this a long things. sophie, is this a long con where you thought, i know i'll post a picture of a curry and get some of top notch free roast out of it? and if that's not the case are you willing to admit that maybe you've just not met the right yet ? yeah, met the right roast yet? yeah, well, love curry, the well, i mean love curry, the tescos part is my favourite food. i think the most outrageous of this post wasn't actually if you the comments was the fact that had the i had the fact that i had the i had curry. it was fact that i had curry. it was a fact that i had toast with curry that was just such bitter outrage. did toast such bitter outrage. i did toast with curry, which is actually just bread wound up. i'm not just bread wound up. and i'm not like toast, but, but yeah, i mean, i just love curry, i think. yeah, i didn't expect she

needs the curry for christmas, but i think the problem the problem isn't that you had to the problem isn't that it's just up bread. the problem is the bread and you're right in the face of it. i can. i understand, but please, please , please, but please, please, please, please, please, please let me invite you . make your roast invite you. make your roast dinner for you and you in your weather come with you somebody weather come with you somebody we are making a roast dinner the way my mother used to make. and then we live with the proper discussion . because this cannot discussion. because this cannot be left on his own. then it can be left on his own. then it can be is a no no. i'm sorry. i can't do it , be is a no no. i'm sorry. i can't do it, you be is a no no. i'm sorry. i can't do it , you know, because can't do it, you know, because you know. i'm sorry for christmas . tesco oliver curry christmas. tesco oliver curry from from cow daisy restaurant is fine i mean , come on, guys. is fine i mean, come on, guys. it's just not right it just doesn't feel right . but you doesn't feel right. but you don't feel so you are missing out on. i mean, look at the passion that you see. people speak of roast the christmas you not think that you're missing out on that maybe you're just not the beauty just

not seeing the beauty just because you don't like potatoes. you potatoes. ignore you ignore the potatoes. ignore the . mean, you the bigger picture. i mean, you say it's not just a racist. the whole thing the meat potatoes with but i mean i don't really get the connection to christmas because have it every sunday. because we have it every sunday. who? i don't have any, but who? well, i don't have any, but , you know, it's , you know, , you know, it's, you know, sunday roast. you have it week so right. slightly different think the real christmas think the real killer christmas always does very story i'm sorry it's not every week is that week is one important part of our lives one day that you can really be on the table sharing with your loved one and then you would say , wow, you know, it's would say, wow, you know, it's memory go back to two. it is a yeah memory go back to two. it is a year. it's not that you do it like every day so that once a year it's those few things that you put on the table. there's good memories. it means with a lovely cup of tea . what's wrong lovely cup of tea. what's wrong with that? it's amazing . it's with that? it's amazing. it's really amazing. you know , but really amazing. you know, but only say you need to really be you need to really bear with and

come with me for day to day a week and i'll show you how to cook. and then you say, okay, i it but oh yeah , okay, yeah. he's it but oh yeah, okay, yeah. he's got to eat it. i see sophie, can i come ask this? sophie you seem in everything ever every other area of your your body of work to the kind of person to be the kind of person who likes, way things likes, who likes the way things used to be done and the values therein i mean turkeys we've been having turkey since the 1500s kind of 1500s that's the kind of tradition you into tradition that you could into and . and this one thing and enjoying. and this one thing you seem to break your own rule . i mean i'm gen—z . yeah, well, i mean i'm gen—z so we do we do sometimes like to you know roughhouse , some you know roughhouse, some feathers a little bit and i typically do like some traditions. my christmas, you traditions. so my christmas, you know, the stockings , know, we have the stockings, everything else is done. rottenberg about my traditions with my christmas of an emotional sort, despite roasted . if you i still think it's the case that you've not met the right one. have you ever been to a place that does a roast in, or is it always just one is it always been just one person it for you in person cooking it for you in case we know who to blame? well,

one at a time, because it one step at a time, because it was the worst shopping i've ever been. frequent been. not rather frequent mcdonald's yeah my mcdonald's instead. but yeah my mum does cook a pretty good version. everyone in family version. everyone in my family raves it. i'm just raves about it. i'm just extremely weird, but i'm also the kind person that only one type specific eat type of specific korean only eat cake any other form cake and not like any other form of cake other than this one cake that i which tesco that i ate, which is tesco trademark. so maybe this is the issue actually you on issue that actually you to go on was channel four's fussy was it channel four's fussy eaters maybe it's not eaters maybe it's yeah it's not about that it's an issue with that you've got with food . yeah. that you've got with food. yeah. i mean nothing so i just don't i mean nothing so ijust don't like that is very strange and i think because i play football on the sunday as well. my family we used to when we were kids used to have and frequently and to have and quite frequently and much despair . to have and quite frequently and much despair. but as much to my despair. but as i started playing football , we started playing football, we used to play football quite late in a sunday play when i used to get with the roast. and so get out with the roast. and so i think my despising for roast dinner actually fuel dinner is actually helped fuel my well. my football career quite well. that's very well. is it. that's very well. this is it. this is not though, we've this is not though, as we've just hearing , this is not though, as we've just hearing, it's this is not though, as we've just hearing , it's not the just been hearing, it's not the weekly is the once

weekly roast. this is the once a year special tribute to all of those turkeys have done it. what's difference between a christmas and we roast. what's difference between a christmas and we roast . excuse christmas and we roast. excuse me. it's a big difference you cannot bring out of the screen that you're going to have a specific country from that. it's a big store or something else. and mentioning mcdonald , i'm and mentioning mcdonald, i'm sorry, that is not food . it sorry, that is not food. it really upsets me. it really upsets me. it really does. well, i'm sorry . upsets me. it really does. well, i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i spent my life on writing books , doing life on writing books, doing things for people that really matter, saving people's lives, actually, as matter of fact. and food is so important it should be treated as such . i think if be treated as such. i think if i'm sorry i so sadly and sadly we have we're going to leave it there because this is somehow turned into the big easter egg on the telly . and i'm sure you on the telly. and i'm sure you look back , we will leave it look back, we will leave it there for you to scrap it out together online. sophie cochrane and giancarlo dessie, thanks very much for that heated. all right. coming up,

very much for that heated. all right. coming up , following the right. coming up, following the break for the world and premier league football. then finally getting returned today with a set of fixtures, festive fixtures , which we will be fixtures, which we will be looking into with the man himself, le tissier.

boxing day is with sport football , horse racing, football, horse racing,

ironically not boxing. feels like they missed a trick after a winter world cup and a timetable perturbation. your football is returning, but what's it going to be like. well let's chat footy with a legend of the game. letissier who me now. hello there . good evening . so we're there. good evening. so we're back. what were the standout results of today ? well results of today? well unfortunately for my team , unfortunately for my team, brighton had a very good wind down at southampton, which unfortunately was at the match today. and my team were very much second best. it looks like arsenal are going to take three points against west ham this even to extend their lead at the top of the table is pretty impressive. i mean , gone one nil impressive. i mean, gone one nil down the game and it was a down in the game and it was a huge win for wolves , everton huge win for wolves, everton which took them off the bottom table, unfortunately meant table, which unfortunately meant the to foot of the mighty dropped to foot of the mighty dropped to foot of the table. sadly well, sorry to hear that. do you think playing on boxing day is a good thing ? on boxing day is a good thing? i've got to be honest, in my time as a professional

footballer, i'm really looked forward to play in a boxing . i forward to play in a boxing. i think the festive period was brilliant. i loved , i love brilliant. i loved, i love playing games and so there's a lot of games condensed a short penod lot of games condensed a short period of time . and so we didn't period of time. and so we didn't do a lot of training, which was perfect for me. i just love playing the game. the more playing the game. so the more games, the better. the games, the better. and the festive period , probably one of festive period, probably one of the busiest periods year. the busiest periods of the year. so forward to it, so i always look forward to it, although training christmas although training on christmas day was probably the one downside of that . yeah, i mean, downside of that. yeah, i mean, that's the thing with it. the that's the thing with it. the that it lands on. surely you just spent like 10 minutes rhyming about roasts. could you really stuck into a good roast the before you played ? i did. i the day before you played? i did. i participate in the festivities properly. i didn't really partake in alcohol at all on christmas day. obviously, with the game, the next day. but yeah, certainly still enjoyed my roast in it . i yeah, certainly still enjoyed my roast in it. i probably moderated it a little bit, roast in it. i probably moderated it a little bit , but moderated it a little bit, but probably not too much . yeah. let

probably not too much. yeah. let me bring in the panel as well on this because boxing, i mean, it's a tradition boxing day football. but is it something that you ever partake and enjoy if i can ask my panel on this. oh, no. i mean, i think i love the boxing day fixtures. i mean, commiserate things to my if not the best performance from his team today home to brian but i think it's and i think even though a lot of people are saying that they would complain about world cup that about the world cup that was recently at recently held in qatar being at this time of year for the diehard football fans actually the league season going the football league season going on and then having the world cup and then the football league resuming so quickly. but diehard football fans, it's sort of on interrupted flow of football is probably quite welcome more than anything i can can i just say i'm quite glad that southampton lost because i'm nottingham forest fog , but let's not have forest fog, but let's not have another on this. so you know i think you know what's was the some things are good for some

people some things are bad for the so i'm quite i'm alright with i'm looking forward to watching forest stay in the premier league this year because you know it's been such a amazing thing for the city forest being back up . so forest being back up. so thinking about this, this gap happened and because it is if everyone was exhausted from playing a world cup, that would be one thing. or if no one was exhausted, had a big break that a different thing but man is this some kind curve this thrown some kind of curve ball the football ball into the world of football now it could the results now it could impact the results that we would have expected . that we would have expected. yeah, i think it will have some kind of to it. it's never, never been done before. you know, we can never tell the season to can never tell the season for to have competition in have a world cup competition in the middle of and then to the middle of it and then to resume season within week of resume the season within week of the world cup final will have is unheard i think it will unheard of so i think it will probably have some kind effect we may see those effects for little while but football's a funny game you get funny results anyway . there's no way of

anyway. there's no way of there's no exact science that will tell you, oh, well this result happened because everyone playing in the world cup, it was not like that in sports, not like that. it's just unpredictable. and that's why we love i was reading love it so much. i was reading about players back about some of the players back from being used from the world cup being used the overweight, but the phrase overweight, but i guess don't the same kind guess don't mean the same kind of that i might be of overweight that i might be after christmas, though, and definitely the one that i am definitely not the one that i am . i think , you know, with all . i think, you know, with all that's going in the world today, it was a it was it was a strange thing for him to come out and say, i mean, i'm surprised that he hasn't been cancelled from old media fat shaming old media for fat shaming people. what, mean, people. you know what, i mean, is the world we with it but is that the world we with it but just i don't know it's going to be an interesting for the rest of the season because i think you'll have managers will use this as a convenient excuse if their teams do suffer some strange losses . yeah and terms strange losses. yeah and terms of like memories of what happenedin of like memories of what happened in the world cup harry kane turning stuff around. but there's a big part of the emotional intelligence part

myself that thinks hadji get over a penalty like that and go straight back to look . oh, straight back to look. oh, that's a good question . i mean, that's a good question. i mean, i was never in a position where i was never in a position where i missed one in the quarterfinal of a world cup. sadly, i did take a lot of penalties and i did miss the one. i do remember being quite nervous when the next one came along . probably next one came along. probably more nervous than i probably would have normally be . so would have normally be. so i don't know if harry is to feel like that the next time he steps up to a penalty. but those memories flooding back to him and perhaps spurs might pay the price for that . but i think he's price for that. but i think he's a pretty kind of guy. i think you'll over it. i think he'll it'll still carry on scoring goals for the rest of the season is harry does as he's done for many many years now so i'm sure it'll be fine now. i'm trying to get a sense of my panel about who's keen on football, get a sense of my panel about who's keen on football , who who who's keen on football, who who loves the schadenfreude or wants everyone to fail other than everyone else to fail other than not, as far as i'm getting that. but what's your stance but belinda, what's your stance on you footballing person and

on you a footballing person and has world made you more has the world cup made you more of you tempted enjoy of one you tempted to enjoy a little bit of football now it's back.i little bit of football now it's back. i terrible because i've never been football but never been into football but kids are obsessed so . i love it kids are obsessed so. i love it when it's on the telly because not are there no fights for . the not are there no fights for. the time that it's on the telly, everyone's cheering and the phones stuck away somewhere phones are stuck away somewhere and it really brings everyone together. they have all their mates they've doing together. they have all their m all; they've doing together. they have all their m all afternoon1ey've doing together. they have all their m all afternoon today doing together. they have all their m all afternoon today and. doing together. they have all their m all afternoon today and. iioing it all afternoon today and. i think football and footballers for giving me in the house for giving me peace in the house and the joy between the four sisters and my husband and we have mates around. so i think it's so much more than the game. it's unifying . it's it's really unifying. it's the world i absolutely loved and world cup i absolutely loved and i thought england played and as missing the penalty. you know these footballers are hundreds of thousands of pounds to take the with the pleasure , the the pain with the pleasure, the stress everything that with stress with everything that with the so they all kind of the game. so they all kind of paid for that stress of missing it and getting all the criticism for doing it. but they're only human. can't make them into human. we can't make them into gods. these these young men and

boys only human. boys often are only human. i think a fantastic job. think they did a fantastic job. yeah. you could offered yeah. matt, if you could offered that money, would you go back and embarrassingly lose some missing penalties. again . oh missing penalties. again. oh quite happily, probably, yeah , quite happily, probably, yeah, quite happily, probably, yeah, quite happily. missing penalties for 100 grand a week. i got comfortable with that . and have comfortable with that. and have you felt that there's been more interest in football? did this world work ? i am not sure it world cup work? i am not sure it did. i don't think it had the same feel to it as you would do with the summer world cup. you i think with the fact that the weather is normally a little bit better , i felt like the country better, i felt like the country as a whole didn't really get behind the team the same way as they might have done with the summer world cup. you know, you normally see of flags normally see plenty of flags hanging and all kind hanging out, cars and all kind of stuff. you know, when we get the fans, really get the fans, i didn't really get that the country this that feel from the country this time winter. it time around. in the winter. it was very different was it was very different trekking. because trekking. that's maybe because people as say, winter people it's, as you say, winter it's of a stay in keep the windows closed rather than open

a window, put out of it. a window, put a flag out of it. no, i that's exactly the reason why . you know, i think the why. you know, i think the summer has great effect on people's mood you know, i think a lot of people are a lot over the summer . a lot of people are a lot over the summer. you know, a lot of people are a lot over the summer . you know, we've the summer. you know, we've talked about seasons , affective talked about seasons, affective disorder , and i'm sure that disorder, and i'm sure that happens. disorder, and i'm sure that happens . and i'm sure that was happens. and i'm sure that was probably one of the reasons why it quite as exciting for the nafion it quite as exciting for the nation as it should have been. yeah. matt thank you so much for that. matt it's easy. fascinating update in the beautiful game. well, coming up next, despite two of next, despite two years of lockdown and. the country gnpped lockdown and. the country gripped by strike action . gripped by strike action. footfall rising . but what is footfall is rising. but what is the future for the great british high street? we'll see you .

in three. welcome back it's a cliche of christmas . welcome back it's a cliche of christmas. but as a man of welcome back it's a cliche of christmas . but as a man of a christmas. but as a man of a certain age, you know, you only get a certain kind of gifts,

your socks, your loved ones nearest and dearest will look at you they will the question, you and they will the question, what do they really want and all they he's they can come up with is he's feet, so he probably needs socks. whenever i get socks i'm furious year get furious this year i didn't get any socks i'm furious so i'm any socks and i'm furious so i'm not going to some socks now not going to buy some socks now but on the high but what's happening on the high street where they're expected , street where they're expected, shops rammed and the lead shops being rammed and the lead up to the festivities london's oxford street, normally a place that's really busy but there were times when was on the were times when it was on the quiet . but before we quiet. but before christmas we saw reports of it being in areas. however, despite the cost of living, crisis and national latest reports are that retail footfall has actually in fact risen higher than expected. so we're hearing the death of the high street. we've been hearing about it for ages, but is it the opposite that seems to be happening? what does the future hold through this, hold to guide me through this, i'm by social and i'm joined by social and political. zita who joins political. lizzie zita who joins me. hello . so what's happening me. hello. so what's happening on the high street for years now, the death of the high

street has been a headline that we always see whether it's out town drawing town things happening drawing people the street. but people from the high street. but now hearing people on now we're hearing people on a day there's a strike day when there's a strike actually shopping us actually going shopping us through it . well in october of through it. well in october of this year, we saw that there was that the figures had gone up to sort of near 10% of what they were pre the pandemic. so that's a good thing but overall i can't see i don't see a brilliant future for the for the uk high street unfortunately. i think when you see shops like john lewis turning the rental market in, the property market, it's just not a good sign and. i'm really sorry because . my parents really sorry because. my parents always had retail shops . i know always had retail shops. i know how hard it is. always had retail shops. i know how hard it is . i know how the how hard it is. i know how the business rate , the fact the business rate, the fact the government are giving us 50% reduction up to i think it's £110,000 in the business rates. it's still a very, very tough environment and know please

everybody go out and use shops . everybody go out and use shops. is it an issue of conveying things though? i mean, we always talk about the that online is having online is so it's easy the fact that you can press a few buttons something while you're on the toilet and it arrives the next day. how can a shop compete that . well the shop compete that. well the thing is it is really convenient but is told it's soulless. we i think what people is an experience when they go shopping they want to have good time. it's a social thing . you go it's a social thing. you go there, you meet friends, maybe have a cup of coffee, you want to be maybe even educate , to be maybe even educate, collated. look at the stores like apple store, which is a successful store, and also nice the big night stores where it's very very anti react they use an awful lot of technology and it's just an incredible experience. now i know the obviously in the local high that's not so easy to do but there are some stores

that are very successful. there are some stores near me, local stores , a butcher and also stores, a butcher and also delicatessen that are really successful and they are doing extremely well during these really hard times and good things like the apple store . things like the apple store. isn't the apple store slightly skewing things because surely most of the money apple as a company makes , it's not from company makes, it's not from their shops . well i think is their shops. well i think is probably online, but the shops do need a presence because it's their brand are showing their brand. and i think this is you've picked up a really good point because i think this is what will happen in the future is that there will be a brand presence in the largest shopping in london manchester glasgow and etc. etc. but there will be far more activity on line and. the physical stores will be there to entertain, to meet people , to entertain, to meet people, to sort of show the brand of this of phil sales clicking , collect

of phil sales clicking, collect stuff like that . but there will stuff like that. but there will be probably , i think in the be probably, i think in the future, a redux of the bricks and mortar stores . and also and mortar stores. and also we're seeing an awful lot of change of use from commercial to residential . a lot of these residential. a lot of these stores be closed into homes, which may no bad thing. yeah i mean, i like your optimism in some areas. there lizzie, but i look also high streets that we go down and they're not being changed into these experiential places where. you can be entertained and educated is betting shops, coffee shops , and betting shops, coffee shops, and that's about it . absolutely. that's about it. absolutely. also, i mean , what i was also, i mean, what i was thinking today that things that are on the rise is things like second hand charity stores now bars , beauty shops, things like bars, beauty shops, things like that i think will always and on certain restaurants will always keep going . but, you know, we keep going. but, you know, we all really stick. and i agree with you, we are sick the with you, we are sick of the coffee shops it is extremely coffee shops and it is extremely expensive but we have to be optimistic. we to think optimistic. we have to think outside box local retailers outside the box local retailers to me are managing to do that.

not everybody obviously, but it is possible to do it. and meanwhile they need they need support from the government and they also support from the local communities . we need to use them communities. we need to use them all they will go they will not be there . we don't want shopping be there. we don't want shopping . high streets full of betting . . high streets full of betting. even the fish and chip shops are shutting down. that's true. you can't hold a fish and chips while you sat in the toilet and they arrived the next day. you can. so i hope i never find out whether you can. lizzie, thank you very for that. social and political commentator lizzie zita. well, have the zita. well, we have reached the end of the first hour, but don't go anywhere because have go anywhere because we have plenty after break, plenty to come up after break, including sunak causing including rishi sunak causing a stir as a homeless shelter. the king's address to the with david stark and my panel's greatest britain and jack has a special festive version. all of that and more. all still to come. we'll see you .

in three. welcome back to tonight. live with me , stephen allen in for with me, stephen allen in for dan wootton . a big hour coming dan wootton. a big hour coming up for you . was rishi sunak's up for you. was rishi sunak's trip to a homeless shelterjust a publicity stunt . we'll go over a publicity stunt. we'll go over to the christmas address with our analysis that the papers hot off the press and my panel's greatest britain's and union jackass. but first let's get the news with right out of san . news with right out of san. here's the latest from the gb newsroom. and in breaking news in the half hour, two people have been arrested in connection the fatal shooting of a woman

in. 26 year old elle edwards was at the lighthouse pub on christmas when she was shot by a gunman . police say they do not gunman. police say they do not believe she was the intended target for men were also treated for gunshot . a man aged 30 from for gunshot. a man aged 30 from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion , murder and attempted suspicion, murder and attempted murder. a woman, aged 19 from rock ferry has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder . a suspicion of conspiracy to murder. a 10th person has died as a of an explosion at a block flats in jersey earlier this month . 73 year old kathy month. 73 year old kathy mcguinness died in hospital on christmas day. the blast, which happened on the 10th of december, destroyed a building st helier. an investigation is still underway . at least 55 still underway. at least 55 people are believed to have died as a result of a severe arctic freeze that continues to grip much of the us and canada. officials 25 people have been killed in buffalo , new york killed in buffalo, new york state. but temperatures as low as minus nine across the us and

canada thousands of flights have been cancelled and more than 150,000 homes are still power . 150,000 homes are still power. the uk's rail networks have been at a standstill today as members of the rmt union hold strike action over pay . hundreds of action over pay. hundreds of trains usually on boxing day. but they've all been cancelled . but they've all been cancelled. 20,000 eurostar passengers were also forced to make alternative plans as it cancelled services to london, paris, brussels and amsterdam . and boxing day amsterdam. and boxing day shoppers may have defied with early data suggesting that footfall has actually risen. industry analysts say it may have increased as much as half when compared to this time last yeah when compared to this time last year. it follows concern that the cost of living crisis coupled rail strikes may have kept people at home earlier. berkeley ricard said the average customer to spend 4% less than in 2021. we're on tv, online , on

in 2021. we're on tv, online, on disney plus radio. this gb news. back now to. steve hello. welcome back to the boxing day special live tonight with me, steven allen coming up in the second hour of tonight's show, we'll make cringe with rishi sunak's out of touch. comments to a homeless man at a shelter he was serving meals, too. and will dissecting this with my fabulous panel yesterday. his king charles paid tribute to the late queen, his mother and his christmas speech. the king made history by being the first king to have made a televised address at christmas to the nation. we'll through this later with dr. david starkey at 1030. we'll be having a sneak peek. well, the headunes a sneak peek. well, the headlines are having tomorrow's papers. those bank papers. stay with me. up until the end of the

show and the obligation is my brilliant all star panel as political commentator belinda lucy, social rocky sun and academic lisa mackenzie . welcome academic lisa mackenzie. welcome back for weeks, we've for weeks we've been saying that we have haven't seen of our current prime minister rishi at least he was prime minister when we started the show. we should get someone to check on that surely. but he came out of hiding and did another awkward thing . he did another awkward thing. he was helping to hand out food , a was helping to hand out food, a homeless shelter and was asked . homeless shelter and was asked. he was speaking with one of the men there, homeless man . he men there, a homeless man. he asked he works in all the asked him if he works in all the cringing moment. well, let's turn to my panel for one. and what do you think ? are we harsh what do you think? are we harsh in judging sunak for that conversational faux pas which are. let's go to belinda . oh, no are. let's go to belinda. oh, no , “0, are. let's go to belinda. oh, no , no, we're not harsh. it's is showed so many times that completely out of touch with the

british public . he is and is british public. he is and is right in the upper 1. he doesn't know how ordinary britons live, never mind people who are homeless . do your left . you homeless. do your left. you remember the call debacle when he was put in fuel in a car that clearly wasn't his and he didn't know what to there either. i think absolutely. i'm over him. i'm i'm him, you know, move . i'm i'm him, you know, move. let's let's have let's have another one. it's just the important thing, having a prime minister who knows how to fill up a kia or, a prime minister who understands how the financial systems work. yeah don't know. they don't understand our homelessness works say, which is works i would say, which is actually quite important . you actually quite important. you know, when we, the sixth richest country in the world yet we've got millions of people who will live in either in insecure housing or know housing. so you i'm sorry, i'm not going to give you money. you can't understand

any if you don't understand how the poorest people are living. and he clearly doesn't like that i'm over him next. but if anyone willing to we being home. well i would say about rishi is that think he's he's a good man i think he's he's a good man i think he's he's a good man i think he means well he he seems very kind very but he is not suhed very kind very but he is not suited at this time at this place to be prime of this country. the minister's job is the most powerful important job in the land . needs to understand in the land. needs to understand the consequences of his policies and also he needs to be a little bit more politically for a man who is supposed superintelligent , he's got no clue how to communicate with the ordinary man and women on the street, you know, he's made so many little mistakes that seem quite innocent, but it just reflect that he has no idea . the other that he has no idea. the other half live whatsoever and the question is for rishi is , if he question is for rishi is, if he wasn't in politics, can you imagine him working and helping out in a soup kitchen? and i

think for me, it's a definite no. often it's the very those who have suffered poverty themselves, who are most charitable, do things like charitable, who do things like that in soup kitchens. if he's never poverty like never understood poverty like know a lot of people in this country. how can he understand know a lot of people in this counto. how can he understand know a lot of people in this counto talkrv can he understand know a lot of people in this counto talk to an he understand know a lot of people in this counto talk to al he understand know a lot of people in this counto talk to a homelessstand know a lot of people in this counto talk to a homeless person how to talk to a homeless person even. but i think a bad even. but i don't think a bad person. he's just the wrong prime minister for now. okay, well that was the defence, well if that was the defence, rishi, next is that rishi, what happens next is that he wasn't a bad person . well, i he wasn't a bad person. well, i suppose something came suppose that something ever came in this, so in the build up to this, so i was asking, is this a pr stunt ? was asking, is this a pr stunt? but even if it was a pr stunt, it's a bad pr . so if it was a pr it's a bad pr. so if it was a pr stunt, his backfired spectacularly. i necessarily believe that you have to have experienced poverty or live a life deprivation in order to come across as genuine that kind of situation. and i think the former prime minister in boris johnson would look far more ease in that point of isolation . he in that point of isolation. he has a fairly privileged background , eton educated . i background, eton educated. i just think that rishi sunak has

form if truth be told there was a clip that emerged during the tory leadership contest where he's talking about different types of friends that he has . he's talking about different types of friends that he has. he said they had working class friends of a not working class friends of a not working class friends didn't across friends which didn't come across very well all during the tory very well at all during the tory contest when he was talking tory members in royal tunbridge wells, he was bragging about rearranging government funding formulas , which is really formulas, which is really diverting funds away from depnved diverting funds away from deprived urban . and i just think deprived urban. and i just think that , that, that tells you that that, that, that tells you that i feel that his political instincts especially in the middle of a cost of living crisis which is about to get a whole whole lot worse . i think whole whole lot worse. i think he in a way we talk about liz truss being elected a decent once is for the conservative party so that rishi sunak rishi sunak and he's also had so more carrot to the nation say something and it is so she at least said how she felt and yes she made gaffes but they were

funny and she had no filter whereas i think people were laughing at her. well that's not what you want to, you know when you're trying to start. i think what i, what i'm trying to say is you've got to have a political narrative and in these times when people are really struggling is political narrative has got to sort of be empathetic to that. and i don't that rishi sunak's i think he may have empathy , but i don't may have empathy, but i don't think he's got the political narrative. and i think that's a problem for him. and as we move on, like i said at the end of sort of the winter when the bill coming in and it's really starts to buy the prime minister or the leadership the country will need is someone and something that has a story and an understanding of just what's happening in the country. and i think he's got it. i don't think he needs experience actually to have poverty, but it shows that i don't think he's been around

helping in any charitable way or necessarily 1 to 1 with people of different classes . and that of different classes. and that i think a prime minister to have he should have prepared much for the role because i think he was preparing for long time before he made prime minister. you he was made prime minister. you know, for rishi know, the ready for rishi thing i was bag for i think was in the bag for a long and so he should have long time and so he should have had a pr team he needs a had a better pr team he needs a refund sack his pr team refund or sack his pr team because him because they're giving him terrible was so terrible this pr stunt was so clearly cringeworthy. he looked so awkward and out of place and very and it didn't do him any good. very and it didn't do him any good . i don't know who is if good. i don't know who is if you're in that kind setting and you'd financial you'd be talking about financial markets of markets instead of food inflation , then you're back in inflation, then you're back in trouble politically . but he trouble politically. but he really didn't know his way around that egg. isn't around that fried egg. isn't this the set of advisers ? isn't this the set of advisers? isn't it the problem, though, that for some reason we're treated like children, that we these children, that we need these press moments prime press moments with prime ministers, flood ministers, like when a flood happens, we send the prime minister mop. why we minister with a mop. why we falling that falling for the narrative that that a prime minister should be helping the mopping

helping out with the mopping they've things to do they've got other things to do having saying having that now i'm not saying that they they need to be sort of mopping still fall i mean i remember boris with his broom which was ridiculous but what i'm saying is people need to trust that our polity have an empathy with the situation . and empathy with the situation. and so far, soon he's not coming across as having that empathy . across as having that empathy. so when they want to help with energy costs come to an end in march , all people are going to march, all people are going to think that he is cruel. and i think that he is cruel. and i think that's the you know rather than being been inept . are they than being been inept. are they going to start to think well actually this guy is so rich you know, he's cruel rich . well know, he's cruel rich. well i don't think thing which know we have to move on i'm afraid but it's worth saying. does rishi sunak understand the plight of the is the poorest the poor? he is the poorest person, his own marriage. so coming next, legendary royal coming up next, legendary royal expert david starkey joins me to dissect his majesty the king's

christmas address to the nation . don't go anywhere. we're back with you in a few minutes .

welcome back. it's the focal point of festive tv. no, not the inevitable. now on eastenders, but the king's speech . historic but the king's speech. historic for many reasons. first time it's been delivered by a man for decades. the first since the

passing of our queen. the king's speech was viewed more than 10 million people. you don't get figures that these days. if it's not tunnel show final. well, not a tunnel show final. well, for some analysis of this record breaking royal broadcast, i'm joined by historian dr. david starkey. hello . how does this. starkey. hello. how does this. steve. hello. how this one sit with you ? this broadcast . all with you? this broadcast. all i've got two answers. which would you like if you want the christmas jolly ? answer or shall christmas jolly? answer or shall we do a bit of thinking about it? let's do the christmas. would you like ? no, let's do it. would you like? no, let's do it. let's do the proper christmas. jolly on this . this was jolly on this. this was completely the spirit of what his mother did. it completely the spirit of what his mother did . it looked his mother did. it looked beautiful . it sounded perfect. beautiful. it sounded perfect. the carols were pretty . the the carols were pretty. the views of attendant members of the royal family like satellites around sun of king charles, were well done. it made a proving noises of not simply

christianity. the star, the floor of the church , bethlehem, floor of the church, bethlehem, where christ is supposed to have been born and king said he was prince charles having been there. and then needless ing to there. and then needless ing to the mosque , to the temple, to the mosque, to the temple, to the mosque, to the temple, to the all of that was beautifully done and it was mind numbingly not dull . yes. i mean, to be not dull. yes. i mean, to be fair, i think a lot of people might have that. they they'd watched it it but left it not feeling impacted it like some of the previous that we remember the previous that we remember the performance seems like a harsh word to use but but the performance of the queen always always hit it no note perfect sometimes it did . we remember sometimes it did. we remember the ones of at moments of crisis. i mean, that's the light. the like the famous one with covid and so on. those are the ones that remember. i mean, come on now . what do i think is come on now. what do i think is my real opinion ? i was found it

my real opinion? i was found it uncomfortably like a marks and spencer or john lewis pat. you know , you felt this is not just know, you felt this is not just guff this is royal guff. you were talking brilliant men out there. i say about the prime minister's performance. why do we need to see him with a mop? and there's a terrible danger that the monarchy is just going to flow down the general stream of unthinking and reflecting beautifully produced pr . and beautifully produced pr. and that's what it starts to look like. i think there's also something else that's very dangerous about speech, which quite a lot of have picked up on, but it's worth thinking about a bit more because in one sense it's completely part the tradition. when prince charles drifts. king charles drifts neatly from religion to serve this to a notion of the public ,

this to a notion of the public, to the and the emergency service to the and the emergency service to strike as . to the and the emergency service to strike as. in one sense, it's completely traditional. in another sense, it's a very taking of sides. and we are in a different world what we used to be.the different world what we used to be. the public services, whatever . they are no longer whatever. they are no longer enjoying them. challenge, position, for example , we see if position, for example, we see if you cast your mind back to covid. one of the great challenges was were we going to have food supplies? now we need food just as as the nhs in front . it's only because we've got food that the nhs isn't even more overwhelmed, but it's but the people who supply food they are called public service workers. people don't go out and buying pans for , they don't buying pans for, they don't demand . 15% pay increases. but demand. 15% pay increases. but you know what? they do the job a better and with very much less

fuss.in better and with very much less fuss. in other words, we're teenage . we're at a point now, teenage. we're at a point now, it seems to me, have been selection where things are changing and there's a terrible risk that the monarchy is going to find itself. either floating on the wrong of the changes if you cast your mind back to the beginning. i mean we're now about the anniversaries right this the 70th christmas brought us back to 52 the anniversary of his mother when she did her first is actually the 90th. when george the fifth did his first in 1932. now that was a great age . that's an age of the threat age. that's an age of the threat of radical, the rise of the labor party or whatever, and the monarchy played it and democracy all of those things were totally auen all of those things were totally alien to monarchy and the monarchy, the king the fifth in particular, he an absolute bunder particular, he an absolute blinder on it. the whole way of the reinvention of the monarchy

as a national english from a german royal house in 1917, the invention of again rewards pubuc invention of again rewards public service. the order of the british empire in 1917 with its first inauguration ceremony . british empire in 1917 with its first inauguration ceremony. not in the pomp and circumstance of the buckingham palace, but actually in a box pop football stadium in glasgow. it got it. absolutely right. it incorporated it without claiming to share its values . so you to share its values. so you could just ask question though so in the first part you say that we're at risk of it becoming overproduced , the royal becoming overproduced, the royal family becoming overproduced pr, then later in the paragraph we hear the worry is they're too politicised in comments that could be linked to taking a side on issues. it like there's not a lot of overlap between those two situations either . lot of overlap between those two situations either. you're so produced that you couldn't possibly be saying something that would be upsetting or you saying upsetting , so you should

saying upsetting, so you should have been produced more. no, i'm saying i don't think so. you're misunderstanding. dare i say i was about the production values , the glitz, the gloss the. the perfection of the performance, of the setting of the ecological christmas tree , of the christmas tree, of the perfectly, perfectly in tune, but not to perfect christmas , but not to perfect christmas, all that stuff. i'm not talking about the content, the content. i felt was not thought was was almost too much attention have been devoted. you a week had been devoted. you a week had been spent thinking about that blue suit tie and the jeep . at blue suit tie and the jeep. at least a week have been spent on that i reckon about 5 minutes. i've been spent thinking about the text . the text was just the text. the text was just pulled out of an old cupboard with nobody thinking about it. they're going to have to stop thinking he is to have to start thinking he is to have to start thinking at the beginning of his reign . the obsession speech. the reign. the obsession speech. the obsession council was seriously good. this was off the shelf

stuff. charles do better. he only got a marginal second degree. remember i'm speaking as an old dog . come on, charles, an old dog. come on, charles, pull your finger. an old dog. come on, charles, pull your finger . do better. pull your finger. do better. think harder will take you more seriously . i well, thank you seriously. i well, thank you very much for that , dr. david very much for that, dr. david starkey . well, coming up, we've starkey. well, coming up, we've got papers at 1030. you will not want to miss that. well, shortly .

ends 10:30 pm. time for the papers . so ends 10:30 pm. time for the papers. so it's time for a look at tomorrow morning's newspapers hot off the press. first, let's look at the telegraph. it goes with . energy companies holding with. energy companies holding

customers billions. this is about a way in which they've been using the debit payments . been using the debit payments. also, has the headline go , has also, has the headline go, has designs on return traditional architecture. next, we move to the guardian revealed the dire state, the broken rail network which . you may well have noticed which. you may well have noticed if you tried to use it today. we then go the mirror. xmas gone horror at pub is the main. then go the mirror. xmas gone horror at pub is the main . she horror at pub is the main. she was just so happy . friends tell was just so happy. friends tell of elle's last moments . two of elle's last moments. two arrested the in it goes with a story . what does the uk really story. what does the uk really about? strikes, comment and analysis that goes into our opinions on what's been happening the has to of junior doctors are trying to leave the nhs and the sun also goes with the shot dead at pub christmas eve light our life and those your front pages. let's talk about panel let's talk with my panel about those headlines now

so we go to let's take a look. the daily telegraph and energy companies , customers, billions companies, customers, billions this is a shocking amount of money that's being kept anywhere else noticed. this is about the direct debit amounts that they take in comparison to how much you actually spent. i think the energy companies are acting quite badly , actually, over this quite badly, actually, over this cost of living crisis . because, cost of living crisis. because, yes, they are offering direct debit to make sure that they've got the money. but what they're also doing is they are forcing people onto prepayment metres as well. so i think there to be a national and public discussion about what the energy are actually doing because i've said it a few times tonight , it's it a few times tonight, it's playing on my what happens when the government's support is removed at the of march? what's going to happen ? families that going to happen? families that are struggling now but also people who perhaps are benefiting a lot from that that

£60 among you know when it's removed on the direct but it's just shoot up because . if you've just shoot up because. if you've got a direct debit, you know you unless you cancel it, you've got no control over it . yeah. okay, no control over it. yeah. okay, let's try and square this impossible circle. what should be done? because if everything more expensive and some people don't and enough money, who don't and have enough money, who fixes the problem middle? fixes the problem in the middle? well, we've got a very well, i think we've got a very serious. think we serious. but i think what we need about is the need to talk about is the regulation the regulation more generally, the energy the energy market and also the behaviour of energy companies. i think i've read multiple reports now, which that major energy companies are not behaving in a socially responsible way . so we socially responsible way. so we do of course, these are ultimately these are ultimately companies that they who may well operate , you know, as private operate, you know, as private sector organisations . but you sector organisations. but you have to understand that if they don't behave in a socially responsible way, that will have a direct impact on people across the country especially people who vulnerable in the middle who are vulnerable in the middle of a cost of living crisis. i i'm surprised energy companies haven't more out of the

haven't made more out of the opfics haven't made more out of the optics of being good their customers of doing better with the pr for companies than i am because it's not great they everything's about sort of a corporate image and they haven't thought about how they can play a part in seeming and looking charitable concerned and good customer relations. one thing i would say the energy companies , would say the energy companies, if they their act if they don't get their act together they don't behave if they don't get their act togather they don't behave if they don't get their act toga more they don't behave if they don't get their act toga more socially don't behave if they don't get their act toga more socially responsiblee in a more socially responsible manner, think a labour manner, i think a labour government will potentially the government will potentially the government bold government can be quite bold when comes to nationalisation when it comes to nationalisation in this particular sphere of british that in this particular sphere of brit labour that that in this particular sphere of brit labour that is that in this particular sphere of brit labour that is we ll in this particular sphere of brit labour that is we have the labour party that is we have at the moment would be quite forward. but i think that this would be the time that if they view well, think there would view well, i think there would be debate and a call be a public debate and a call for them to be privatised because they're not acting in the spirit of cost of living crisis. all they i read somewhere a few weeks ago a hundred thousand coal orders has gone through the magistrates court where they're forcing people pre—payment metres that is not socially responsible it's

not it's not second time. tonight this panel's been basically a bunch of social duty don't want to get energy companies off. i think . but i do companies off. i think. but i do think now is the time good. if their image isn't great at the moment just because of the whole cost of living, they could have done a little bit more just for themselves like if i was their pr what would pr team, what i would do something, few stunts something, make do a few stunts even. done nothing even. but they've done nothing because normally the argument is people when people talk about water a utility you water as, a utility and you can't you going can't swap, what are you going do can increase the do so they can increase the amount it's not amount of money and it's not really a fair market where it's actually can swap it comes actually you can swap it comes to energy providers but at the moment lewis up moment even martin lewis ends up saying there's no point swapping because too because everything's too expensive feels expensive so it almost feels like bunch together to like they've bunch together to decide act because if decide to not act because if they all act equally badly, there's some sort of mexican ultimately that my understanding of is that gives rise to of is that it gives rise to multiple competitors and that will help to keep prices in a controlled for the consumer competition . the same thing competition. the same thing isn't working in a kind of time

. it is amazing and we need to invest first and attract more into the energy . i think we're into the energy. i think we're going in a way , in many ways going in a way, in many ways we've got broken economic now this doesn't call for mass nationalised action, but we need to talk seriously about robust regulation of particular markets. at the moment we don't that. well, let's move to on the guardian and ask you if can make of this revealed dire state of broken rail network mean obviously today a strike day i would have got the train in so sorry environment sorry greta but i did have to drive so i mean the rail network, even when it's not on strike, still some people, some problems. how are we going fix the situation room? when is it ever been any different? i wrote for decades of our trains. we can't even do anything in this country just simply and effectively you look at germany and, japan, they've got rail work working got all their rail work working perfectly. why can't we just get it in country? okay it right in this country? okay i'm it. and it's i'm going to make it. and it's going sound left wing going to make me sound left wing again. in germany, you

again. i think in germany, you have parties of , the have you have parties of, the right and parts the left that right and parts of the left that generally the of generally agree on the sort of social economy they social market economy where they have model, where have this model, where government closely , government works closely, business and trade unions for the general economy, better the society and then another european countries as well. well, i think in britain we have an economic model which is more based on confrontation and adversity, between adversity, especially between the government trade. so we the government and trade. so we have do have much less night than we do than spain . i mean, we have than spain. i mean, we have a very few strike days in this country compared to a lot of european finance. we should have more it is very more days because it is very clear that the number of strike days being taken at the moment has increased in recent aviva. aviva a few weeks ago got a massive bonus from the government and yet there were one of the worst one networks in the uk . i mean one of the worst one networks in the uk. i mean if you ask anybody from manchester about how they, what they think about their trading network, which is aviva and yet they're still getting bonuses , the government getting bonuses, the government in the tricky situation is we need trains , but few people are

need trains, but few people are using them. it's a covid hangover that people have , but hangover that people have, but we need them to run because you just end up having fewer and fewer trains. there is a critical at which you have critical point at which you have a few small number a sufficiently few small number of trains, which means you don't trains anymore because no one's going happens with going to use it. it happens with buses when my when my dad buses back when my when my dad lived in in ashfield, they turned one of the bus routes into one a week. well, it's not a just get to watch a bus. you just get to watch something and something going round. and are we the thing if we we risking the same thing if we don't the network? not don't keep the rail network? not suiting amount of demand suiting the amount of demand that the of that it has, but the amount of supply need? i think supply that we need? i think should do a ronald reagan. what he in 1981 aviation he did in 1981 when the aviation staff strike because staff went on strike because they getting enough they weren't getting enough money sat money and conditions, they sat in other he sacked the in the other and he sacked the lot them when he made it lot of them when he made it illegal for them to strike and he sacked about 11,000 of them and then trained military very quickly other the members of quickly and other the members of staff over the job they staff to take over the job they did much efficiently and did it much more efficiently and actually aviation for the actually the aviation for the flights going and the flights kept going and the pubuc flights kept going and the public much less public harmed. i have much less sympathy for our railway workers

than i do for the nurses . so than i do for the nurses. so i think i have a huge amount of empathy and support for the nurses , the railway. why some nurses, the railway. why some someone reflecting this idea? i'm sorry, but they the british people for particular people support for particular workers can differ based on the sector that they're in so you see with ambulance often nurses the majority british people actually support for the rail workers it's a bit lower and four wheel driving instructors it's very like the board of all across the board i'm like strike on you do you've sufficiently brought back the right point? you gain some up you know you know you knew we had it in us to the mirror then and this she was just so happy and selfless. last moment to arrested it's another heartbreaking story on the front of the newspapers . a tragic loss of the newspapers. a tragic loss of the newspapers. a tragic loss of life . yeah. and it shows that of life. yeah. and it shows that though we a country you know, compared to, you know, across the pond, we have very strict gun controls. we still have on very unfortunate incidents involving . so i suppose at least involving. so i suppose at least this story upsets us so much

because of its rarity whereas this story america i don't want to seem heartless but it be there from that point i would say i don't think it is that uncommon like liverpool to have hit the headlines quite a lot recently with these kind random shootings trying to get one person but shooting another person. i don't know if it's the same here. but you know have been more and more shootings liverpool lockdown liverpool since lockdown finished and i know liverpool is a port has had a problem with firearms coming in and coming out has of drug gangs. out and has lots of drug gangs. i know it's probably not i don't know it's probably not related don't related to. it probably, i don't know is becoming a little know but it is becoming a little bit frequent. don't you bit more frequent. don't you think news gun crime in think in the news gun crime in liverpool fewer than ten. liverpool only fewer than ten. it's still low single digit of cases, whereas in america that probably would be the space of a week or two that you'd have this. but i remember one way in nottingham we had a similar issue where for about four or five years there was a lot of guns, a lot of shooting and a lot of discussion , sort of drunk

lot of discussion, sort of drunk guns and drugs and guns and what it came down to really was poor policing . yeah, that's what it policing. yeah, that's what it actually came to. it was the police that almost lost control of the city and was poor policing. so i think the problems are probably liverpool got at the moment. i think some them could probably be lighter. the police's door perhaps they are not policing this particular situation that they've got more know adequately. but one thing that doesn't happen in the uk is we do react to these situations. yeah and gun laws i think was enough after one event. again enough after one event. so again just to compare, it seems like we're america that we're picking on america that tends not way that tends to not be the way that they it. we hopefully they deal with it. we hopefully have a way. let's hope have a better way. let's hope whenever i to this whenever. i mean to this. this always to be utterly always has to be utterly shocking and heartbreaking and. i was with family at i believe she was with family at time pub and just on time in the pub and just on christmas eve, everything is just a massive tragedy . and i'm just a massive tragedy. and i'm just a massive tragedy. and i'm just so, so desperately sorry for her family. but you're

right, it has to stay shocking. well, let's move on to i mean, the independent talks about what we've our we've covered there about our opinion strikes i opinion of the strikes. i was going about that. not going to ask about that. how not only? the various strikers only? is it the various strikers , different approval ratings, in fact, i wonder if the has fact, yeah i wonder if the has been the changing because before then this year the train strikes had some public there was a lot of public support there. but there is something about attacking christmas rather than attacking christmas rather than attacking on their way attacking workers on their way into work that might it differently with people . i think differently with people. i think it's a possibility , but i still it's a possibility, but i still think the even despite the fact we've seen various forms of industrial action over the festive period , i still think festive period, i still think that in certain sectors think especially when it comes to nurses and ambulance staff, i think that there be at least a plurality, if not a majority of british people still being broadly supportive of those strikes . i broadly supportive of those strikes. i think it's broadly supportive of those strikes . i think it's cruel, strikes. i think it's cruel, though . choose the christmas though. choose the christmas penod though. choose the christmas period when they could have chosen period leading up to our august . i mean, nurses have been

august. i mean, nurses have been underpaid for years by railway strikers. if they had an issue. they could have done it at a time that didn't cause so much hurt and disruption. i have got an issue with this cancelling christmas i've really got christmas thing. i've really got an issue with because an issue with this because i remember ago, three remember two years ago, three days before christmas, boris cancelled christmas . do you cancelled christmas. do you remember when boris johnson cancelled christmas and he really comes of he said, no one is going anywhere . and that this is going anywhere. and that this year mick lynch as they've got strikes and he's you know, he's the grinch so i've got a real problem with this cancelling christmas. christmas is not being i was on oxford street today and christmas is boxing day sales are definitely not being cancelled. it was absolutely heaving so visiting families i'll make this point that when it comes to managing industrial relations that is a key government responsibility so you have government officials i mean blaming the labour party labour have been in government for 12 years. right. that when

it comes to managing the strikes, handling negotiations, we have to ask questions . our we have to ask questions. our government, if truth be told, would have to travel too far topic wise to the front of the eye. two thirds of junior doctors are trying to leave the nhs voted not too far away nhs just voted not too far away from discussing by there might be nurse based strikes be some nurse based strikes i mean need doctors this is the mean we need doctors this is the opposite. this is the opposite . opposite. this is the opposite. what we needed even worse, what we needed and even worse, this coming where this is coming at a time where so medical places at so few medical places at universities are offered to british students. i think something like only of something like only 15% of british students are getting places to do medical. so we're reducing the amount we train and we are scaring the doctors off that we already have here. i know i know of a doctor who went to australia because he just found too much dependent found the nhs too much dependent on and need to on goodwill and we need to invest in domestic workforce, stop relying on foreign labour source to keep wages low to keep working conditions . we need working conditions. we need trained. where's all the nursing training colleges and doctors colleges ? and we had the colleges? and we had the conservative liberal democrat

coalition which slashed nursing bursaries no end. and that was a very bad move. it was a bad move. yeah. and i'm not saying that i think in particular cases , yes, we can find talent and try and attract talent from other parts of the world into the nhs. but our priority should be training people , british be training people, british citizens , to fulfil important citizens, to fulfil important roles in the national health service at the moment when we don't that, what do you do. you know the problem is time because it takes at least seven years to train but you in for train the doctor. but you in for five years we have to interrupt but i've been in government for 12 years. but you only ever think that term, don't you? go well, that's from a very short term. it's called know that's the problem with politics and politicians that's not a problem with i suppose the well of people to want to be doctors you know all the good well of the british public for the nhs that somehow politicians thinking short termist and thinking about votes . and i honestly think that

votes. and i honestly think that you know so i remember seven or eight years ago we were discussing this this was exactly the same thing we were discussing eight years ago. and we all still discussing it. we couldn't train doctors in that time. so you know, how long are they going to keep kicking into they going to keep kicking into the long run? but how can we train not educating train if we're not educating them? actors them? how can how can we actors like speaker of light to the like the speaker of light to the world when stripping world when we're stripping poorer nations of all their medical and leaving medical staff and leaving their hospitals come serve, hospitals empty to come serve, you know, and the nhs, which is so morally wrong , have no idea so morally wrong, have no idea why the conservatives aren't investing in a domestic workforce paying them. they workforce and paying them. they spend millions . diversity, spend millions. diversity, inclusivity directors all this rubbish . it's such a waste of rubbish. it's such a waste of money and they could be paying on nurses and doctors and people in the house of lords. yeah and making them billionaires who want to a lot of money off the michelle vote . i will say i will michelle vote. i will say i will say just to clarify my point where i was saying the issue is time i was saying the politicians should raise their game we shouldn't doctors game we shouldn't train doctors in than five years. you

in less than five years. you don't want someone watched don't want someone who's watched all house and all the episodes of house and thinks to say, thinks they're going to say, yeah, going yeah, you know what, i'm going to. finally look to. and then finally we can look at the front page of the sun. same story again. heart moving, shot christmas eve shot dead, a on christmas eve light our life and they also have in the top corner sales glee as brits splurge there was worries the footfall would be down but it looks like for some reason it's changed. it's difficult to work. it's definitely a strike day. and people are putting people are saying are putting people are saying are putting people shopping . why have people off shopping. why have people off shopping. why have people shop today ? people going out to shop today? sales. the only thing is first ever sales . and again, i've got ever sales. and again, i've got a problem with you know, i've got a problem with because i was on when i've come london i'm from nottingham so i'll go and have a look on oxford street. you could not move and they felt it felt frightening actually it was really frightening and i looked in the shops and thought about all poor people who's got about all poor people who's got a people retail. it's a work people in retail. it's like on give them two days off at least i think it's great they get to catch up a from being almost destroyed during lockdown these are that kind golden

these are that kind of golden days where build back days where they can build back a little bit of their losses. yeah but it is how it suffocates if you work in those shops you're working you've got to come in on boxing day all life. i mean , no, boxing day all life. i mean, no, no, no i think people i think people in retail are treated really badly in this country. and i think giving people two days off together at christmas should be at least something that we could would people still come out ? it be the same sale. come out? it be the same sale. it be the same first day of sale. does it really matter if it's tomorrow, not today . sam it's tomorrow, not today. sam makes a good point about employment protections, especially for the retail sector . i think especially for the retail sector . ithink almost especially for the retail sector . i think almost agree with . i think i almost agree with belinda's that a lot of belinda's point that a lot of these businesses, they have suffered pandemic. suffered under the pandemic. so they need this they they need like this where they can because might help can cash in because might help their longer term financial sustainability retain sustainability and to retain their and potentially their staff and potentially maybe give them pay maybe hopefully give them pay rise future. i'll sit on rise in the future. i'll sit on the fence that's fine we've the fence and that's fine we've been left essentially to the table . time for another break table. time for another break now . when we get back, my

now. when we get back, my hardworking panel will be revealing that great britain's and that union jackasses will see you .

soon welcome back. well, it's time to reveal today's great britain and jackasses and let's see who my panel have nominated . rikki, panel have nominated. rikki, we'll start with you, who you nominated for your greatest britain and. why? i'm nominated a king charles iii. i thought that his christmas address was wonderful , that his christmas address was wonderful, even though i'm a non—christian thought the strong christian dimension to the speech was very welcome. but in doing finally following up from that, he also acknowledged the fact that we are a multi—faith society about the great work that only churches , mosques, that only churches, mosques, gurdwaras mons and synagogues do , especially when it comes to feed feeding the hungry and their social value . so i thought

their social value. so i thought their social value. so i thought the whole offer is a very inclusive but did have that strong christian core which would you'd want ultimately the supreme governor of the church of england. but surely you knew that was always to happen of england. but surely you knew that he s always to happen of england. but surely you knew that he s alwa of to happen of england. but surely you knew that he s alwa of wanting happen of england. but surely you knew that he s alwa of wanting ha been ago he spoke of wanting to be the defender of the faiths. yeah. referred yeah. and he also referred britain as community of britain as a community of communities. see communities. but nice to see that his christmas that in his first christmas address as the head of state. yeah. you never for a second thought you wouldn't follow through the though. through on the promise though. well, delivery good. well, i think the delivery good. i delivery was good. i think the delivery was good. i mean, i disagree a bit with david starkey as well. where you know, i think that in a way he was was quite clever of the was it was quite clever of the king refer to the king actually to refer to the nhs the forces nhs and the armed forces traditionally . then it's just traditionally. then it's just seen as kind of subject of seen as a kind of subject of left admiration. well, the left wing admiration. well, the forces is seen as a subject of right wing admiration. and i actually think that's very reductive you're about reductive. you're talking about two there with the two institutions there with. the majority british people, majority of british people, especially going through especially. we're going through an great an era where there's a great deal of institutional distrust. these are two institutions which just well just remain fairly well respected the. respected by the much of the. okay, move to . on belinda okay, we can move to. on belinda keen, us who you've chosen keen, tell us who you've chosen

. chosen . i've, i've actually chosen king the third as well because i have to say, you know i, was expecting perhaps of a woke lecture on environment in there somewhere and you know , i also somewhere and you know, i also felt like he was in a position of having to fill unfilmable shoes like no one can compete with the queen as a huge of pressure on him. and i think. with the queen as a huge of pressure on him. and i think . he pressure on him. and i think. he did a stellar job. yes, it was did a stellarjob. yes, it was short it didn't rock my or you know i didn't feel the move under my feet or whatever it wasn't, you know, deeply impacting . wasn't, you know, deeply impacting. but it was wasn't, you know, deeply impacting . but it was the first impacting. but it was the first king's speech since 1951. and i think he's a great public speaker i think he's you know, the monarchy is wonderful . you the monarchy is wonderful. you never know what king or queen you're going to we've had you're going to get. we've had bad, ugly months through bad, good, ugly months through through history , but it's not through history, but it's not it's more the institution i think people feel obsessed protective about like i do . but protective about like i do. but i think for a king king charles a great speech and i have to give it to him. can i just check your okay with the stood up delivery because people were very this wasn't very excited about this wasn't sitting desk actually

sitting down a desk actually stood was stood there it now it was a slight criticism i suppose someone that if he would someone said that if he would have said the words welcome to songs would songs of praise it would have been mean, it been in keeping it. i mean, it was filmed. and i think if you decide to let eat cake, it decide to let them eat cake, it would been , oh, well, now would have been, oh, well, now let's see, lisa, who of chosen for you? it wasn't king charles. no it was terry hall from the special. yeah who. oh, look who died last week and i think it was great britain because in the 19705 was great britain because in the 1970s when the national from the band up was rising terry hall and specials were . and that was and specials were. and that was singing against racial hatred in the country and they they they were number one with ghost town and were talking about all the things that we all have. sadly about today . city centres being about today. city centres being hollowed out , poverty, people hollowed out, poverty, people being . and so i think terry hall

being. and so i think terry hall is a great britain and i think we should i'm very sad that perhaps more people on political shows are not recognising him for his politics as well as his music . i for his politics as well as his music. i think it's easy to forget what it would what it was like then to see top of the pops, the multicultural band, whereas now actually we're so used to it. you forget what a trailblazing move that was and also what they had to . do you also what they had to. do you know before they know in know before before they know in the middle of the first you know they were going around the country know in pubs country and you know in pubs they were all going to get into they were all going to get into the and kick, you know, the crowd and kick, you know, the crowd and kick, you know, the national kicking out racists and they did that you know and i think his music the politics of the 1980s unfortunate are still today and i think suddenly died last week and i think he's great britain i think played some of those gigs you mentioned as well and so is your greatest britain the looks of it. you've chosen

king charles. let's have an is mathematic i think the democrat practised democracy this evening. well if i had democracy, we wouldn't have king charles. he no democracy. i'm the king yeah. let's see who my panel of nominated for that union jackass now for you jackasses ricky went for prince harry. i watched the whole docu series think you know what my main problem with it is that he sat there and then you have so called experts contributing to the docu series peddling mistruths. for example, the commonwealth is referred to empire 2.0. i mean, listen, the empire 2.0. i mean, listen, the empire is about imperial coercion and the commonwealth is a voluntary association of nations. it's not the same thing. and even nations who weren't britain's colonies decided for us to join such wonderful . and i'd make the wonderful. and i'd make the point as well in the commonwealth, you have influential members such as india and south africa they're

doing don't. so you see to eye with the uk when it comes to foreign policy especially russia . and interestingly and then you have china is gaining foothold have china is gaining a foothold in many commonwealth member states. so i that that really states. so i that that is really not an empire point. oh but i think more broadly i didn't really like the commentary. i'll try be quick with this try and be quick with this referring royal family is referring the royal family is somewhat , has to catch somewhat outdated, has to catch up modernised in up with diverse modernised in britain see with the king's britain you see with the king's christmas address very diversity and actually follows on from much of the late queen's fantastic when it comes to interracial dialogue and fact that she tried to reach out to christian denomination non protestant christian denominations . meghan down the denominations. meghan down the aisle mean loved her when she aisle i mean loved her when she came into the family so i don't know if under prince harry if you you don't like to you if you don't like to everything is on netflix you wait watch the crown wait till you watch the crown beunda wait till you watch the crown belinda your union? jack belinda who's your union? jack yes, i had be . rishi i can't yes, i had to be. rishi i can't , i can't get around fact that he's our prime minister and he is behaving like a bit of a bully and there's no need to.

he's too, for this. not just his gaff with a homeless guy, but he decided not do a traditional christmas message as well, which i thought was a bit badly advised. just because why would you make a decision not to do i think again, he trying to do a bit of a stunt with our nurses and nhs and do a message to them instead of wishing everyone a merry . i don't know merry christmas. so i don't know who's but he needs who's advising him, but he needs to stop listening to them and i don't know, polls out to try don't know, put polls out to try and idea what the and get some idea of what the pubuc and get some idea of what the public because he's public from him because he's clearly thinking you know clearly not thinking you know himself intelligent the himself very intelligent the moment with a lack of savviness that beyond love idea that whoever is advising him would have had a meeting where they said sentence yeah said the sentence yeah billionaire giving food to homeless could go wrong you homeless what could go wrong you know they found what went know they found out what went wrong that interesting wrong they that was interesting and you're i can't sort and lisa you're i can't sort i said rishi sunak did i. oh yes i just thought you said she say no but also wavered a bit on michelle mode . well. oh that's

michelle mode. well. oh that's a good one. yeah i know, but i thought , good one. yeah i know, but i thought, well i kind of run for sunak because again he's is awkward. he's you know, he's not war. he's got no warmth , you war. he's got no warmth, you know, desperately wanted this job, you know, desperately wanted the job. and then, you know, now he's you know, he is not what you said. he said you know, the grown ups are in charge . well, where is he? it's charge. well, where is he? it's like it's like that poem where all the are going round. i want to be the leader. i want to be the guy that i. good idea. okay, guys. so here's a bit mr. invisible before the pay off of the show which, would you rather have about rishi have the complaints about rishi being that being around or complains that he's he's asking , he's around and he's asking, well, mean you want someone who's someone who's moderately around someone relatable . i would like to see relatable. i would like to see now is someone we have to we have done more said more about the energy companies , the three the energy companies, the three of us politically don't agree but agree on social issues. of us politically don't agree but agree on social issues . we but agree on social issues. we have said more than sunak's said in the last two. maybe there's a

reason he's been kept quiet, you know, and that's why he's quite invisible. i mean, i haven't seen up in the north or in workingmen's clothes , i don't workingmen's clothes, i don't know. going, no, he's not. know. he's going, no, he's not. my boss, but well, better . he my boss, but well, better. he looks like the winner of your union has to be rishi sunak's . union has to be rishi sunak's. yeah, i'm happy with that. yeah i'm sure you'll win some more in the next year as well. it's not a final thing, so plans for the new year. look, we've we've almost as john lennon another year over. and what have you done. well i'm doing my one z on the sofa when we've got all got matching onesies. i'm keeping all my teenagers in the house and not letting them . so for new and not letting them. so for new year's eve, because the parties they go to at the moment are a little bit crazy. and i haven't really made them street wise. so we're going to watch films all night with popcorn then night with popcorn and then do a little of action at little bit of balloon action at 12. exciting well, 12. is that exciting well, expect that . and thank very expect that. and thank you very much. sorry . expect that. and thank you very much. sorry. didn't expect that. and thank you very much. sorry . didn't get to much. i'm sorry. didn't get to find plans, but we

find the full plans, but we don't want to go shortsighted with this because we'll be reviewing the newspapers on the way next when we do headline is going be seeing a few looking going to be seeing a few looking ahead weather . the ahead to tomorrow's weather. the uk will see a cold and frosty for many, but turning wetter the west. here are the details . a west. here are the details. a cold and icy start tuesday morning across northern with sleet and snow showers turning cloudy as rain and hill snow arrives from the south turning windy to a wet morning across northern ireland with brisk winds developing the. rain could be heavy at times, leading to some tricky travelling conditions . cloud amounts conditions. cloud amounts increasing through tuesday morning across northern england, the wind picking up to icy stretches around thing as the cold air lingers on. a cloudy and damp morning for wales and the liverpool area as rain moves in the west, the rain turning heavy as the morning progresses . temperatures rising after a cold start. apache frost across the midlands tuesday morning .

the midlands tuesday morning. temperatures quickly rising as . temperatures quickly rising as. clouds spread in from the west . clouds spread in from the west. the risk of rain arriving as morning progresses with the winds increasing to a cold down frosty start for many across east anglia tomorrow morning with . some morning sunshine, with. some morning sunshine, cloudy amounts increasing from the west as . the morning moves the west as. the morning moves on with rain arriving . a chilly on with rain arriving. a chilly start the day across southern england with . the best of any england with. the best of any morning, sunshine in the east. clouds increasing as the morning progresses. turning windy, too, with rain later . wet progresses. turning windy, too, with rain later. wet and windy weather continue eastwards through the day with snow falling over scotland . falling over scotland. temperatures on the mild side for .

good evening on madison in gb newsroom. two people have been arrested in connection with the fatal shooting of a woman in merseyside 26 year old alleged edwards was at the pub on christmas eve when she was shot by a gunman . police say they by a gunman. police say they don't believe was the intended target . four men also received target. four men also received wounds. a man aged 30 from tranmere has been on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. a woman aged 19 from rock ferry has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy .