south hey, good afternoon, everybody. oh, we may see patrick on gb news on this lots on immigration . theresa may essentially tells rishi sunak not to get tougher with those modern slavery laws . with those modern slavery laws. another record year in the channel almost 50,000 people made the journey alone. this year. made the journey alone. this year . so the president wants to year. so the president wants to make hard students to make it hard for students to bnng make it hard for students to bring family over. we bring their family over. we might have finally found how

this boats actually make this small boats actually make it come as well. mystery. so it to come as well. mystery. so far germany and then into far via germany and then into france only. fill you in france only. we'll fill you in on of that. in other news, on all of that. in other news, batten down hatches, people, batten down the hatches, people, because absolutely because could be absolutely freezing. i'm full of snow we've seen what's happening in america . could it be about to have a snowball hum of our own right in the nhs. well it's spending tens of millions on middlemen. he sought out agency staff. it is a shocking waste of taxpayers money from our broken health service. we'll bring you advice on how to shift christmas pounds. okay because apparently gautz is making a return. they are back by popular gautz is back certainly in my house. it is up to the absolute damage that i put my body through this christmas too. there we go. i will be joined and off throughout the show by the wonderful clarinda carr gb news regular. definitely much, much more can i say more by the way can i just say i was reading your twitter bio you all know what you just called me. it was a failed reality me. so it was a failed reality tv star for me to write that

because get called that and if because i get called that and if i write to them, don't say it because i have taken the power out. now have out. but we now have successfully taken the power. there as well a whole there we go. as well as a whole host great. it is still just host of great. it is still just about christmas, which gives me an tie. so an excuse to wear this tie. so let's some serious news, but let's do some serious news, but also few laughs along way. also few laughs along the way. ladies and gentlemen, vaiews@gbnews.uk ladies and gentlemen, vaiew coming ns.uk ladies and gentlemen, vaiew coming in.jk ladies and gentlemen, vaiew coming in. but before emails coming in. but before that, lies with that, like i said, lies with raimundo raimundo . thanks, raimundo raimundo. thanks, patrick. 3:02. here's the latest . almost 60 people are now believed to have died as winter storms continue to hammer the us and canada. the temperatures and blizzard conditions have left many areas under than four feet of snow. city of buffalo. in new york state has been hit the hardest with 27 fatalities. many of whom through froze to death in their cars. president joe biden declared a federal emergency . whether journalist emergency. whether journalist nathan brown us what's causing these unusual conditions. the

polar vortex which is the pool of cold air over the arctic has swooped down over the united states brought very very very cold temperatures all had minus is 40. listen to writing from the sky because the wildlife is freezing on the trees. but national weather service in the united states says that it's going to improve the run up going to improve in the run up to new year there will be a to new year and there will be a thaw. with the thaw, all thaw. but with the thaw, all that see all that that thawing, you see all that snow is going to thaw it, possibly looking at flooding which problem . well, which is another problem. well, back here, a 23 year old man has died , after being stabbed at died, after being stabbed at a nightclub in birmingham on boxing day . west midlands police boxing day. west midlands police say , they were called to the say, they were called to the incident just before midnight. hundreds of people were at the nightclub at time . and nightclub at the time. and witnesses being urged to witnesses are being urged to come forward . meanwhile, come forward. meanwhile, merseyside police are continuing to question two people in connection with the fatal shooting of a 26 year old woman on christmas eve. elle edwards was shot at the lighthouse pub

in wallasey while celebrating christmas family and friends. the 30 year old man has been arrested on. suspicion of murder and attempted murder. arrested on. suspicion of murder and attempted murder . a 19 year and attempted murder. a 19 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to . suspicion of conspiracy to. murder rail passengers are being told to expect significant disruption into the new year amid a wave . industrial unrest amid a wave. industrial unrest across . the country. there were across. the country. there were busy at london's king's cross earlier due to the knock on effects of boxing day strikes . effects of boxing day strikes. members of the tsa union at crosscountry staged 24 hour walkout from 9 pm. yesterday as part of long running dispute over pay and. the levelling up secretary says opposition to new housing developments could be reduced by focusing better design. michael says too many planning are in different insipid and the potential of some public spaces is not being . he is supporting calls the policy exchange think tank for a

new national school of urban and architecture . teachers have architecture. teachers have condemned the scottish decision to delay the rollout free school meals to all primary pupils in s says the food programme is vital to tackle child poverty during the cost of living crisis . the the cost of living crisis. the introduction of the scheme was due happen back in august. the scottish government is defending the delay, saying scotland has the delay, saying scotland has the most generous, universal provision of free school lunches in the uk . a yellow weather in the uk. a yellow weather warning remains in place for snow and ice in north and east of scotland. the met office says freezing could last until 10 am. tomorrow. travel disruption a.m. tomorrow. travel disruption is possible as. a.m. tomorrow. travel disruption is possible as . wintry showers is possible as. wintry showers create patchy ice mainly on higher routes. create patchy ice mainly on higher routes . traffic. scotland higher routes. traffic. scotland says motorists should plan ahead . you're watching tv news . says motorists should plan ahead . you're watching tv news. bring you more as it happens. let's get back to .

get back to. patrick a. welcome back, everybody. good afternoon . should former prime afternoon. should former prime ministers actually involved with the business of the current government, especially if not former prime minister happens to be theresa may. well, be called theresa may. well, theresa think so. she's theresa may think so. she's warned rishi sunak against reforming modernise slavery laws, that could laws, claiming that it could create other problems. idea create other problems. the idea of rolling back such legislation has been touted by the government as wavering , juicing government as wavering, juicing illegal by those the illegal immigration by those the system . former prime minister system. former prime minister theresa may said the government must safeguard world leading protections for victims of modern slavery. but there's rather a lot to unpack here. ladies and gentlemen, and i'm sure many of you people at home right, have got a view on it gives our gb news get in touch. first things first for me over everything. now we should theresa out. was theresa may bust out. she was former secretary former former home secretary former prime argue prime minister. some would argue not either prime minister. some would argue

nothose either prime minister. some would argue nothose two either prime minister. some would argue nothose two things. either prime minister. some would argue nothose two things. shezither prime minister. some would argue nothose two things. she is1er prime minister. some would argue nothose two things. she is also of those two things. she is also still constituency mp in still a constituency mp in maidenhead. unfortunately for theresa may, i happen live in theresa may, i happen to live in maidenhead what she's maidenhead and know what she's doing say doing doing or should i say not doing when to migrant hotels when it comes to migrant hotels and budget the local and the budget of the local council that she is actively refusing talk to anybody in refusing to talk to anybody in the area about the the local area about the devastating of the migrant hotels on, the local taxpayers finances , stock, etc, etc, etc. finances, stock, etc, etc, etc. and excuse me for maybe not really caring too much about what she has to say about issue right now. but it comes big news. a total of 19 migrants arrived on british shores small boats on christmas day. and some people be saying, well, how boats on christmas day. and some pe

that germany is responsible for procuring a lot of these boats, not the government, just the people. and then sending them through to france. then, of course, once in france, course, once they're in france, well, can the calais, well, they can the calais, they're exactly going they're not exactly going to meet france, meet much resistance in france, are it's christmas. are they. and it's christmas. i'm make lazy i'm allowed make these lazy trips in the trips anyway. right me in the studio now to discuss all studio right now to discuss all this is stephen wolf, the director of the of director of the centre of migration and economic prosperity samson who prosperity and ivonne samson who is lawyer both is an immigration lawyer both you much you chaps, thank you very much and for coming in the and thank you for coming in the studio this squishy in studio in this squishy in between and year between christmas and new year period. be on your period. you should be on your sofas now certainly sofas with now certainly where i'd like to but anyway chose me initially theresa may stephen this interjection about softening or not softening on modern slavery laws she's concerned that people might slip the gaps. i suspect the vast majority public are concerned with men from albania taking the mic . i think with men from albania taking the mic. i think most with men from albania taking the mic . i think most people are mic. i think most people are concerned about any of those who come over as illegal immigrants and claim asylum when they don't have genuine asylum claims. and claim asylum when they don't have genuine asylum claims . and have genuine asylum claims. and particularly when we look at the albanians who we know very well

connected to the crime , that's connected to the crime, that's what the ncis is telling us. and they're using the modern slavery act as an excuse to be able to remain here . the thing about remain here. the thing about theresa may, though , she's theresa may, though, she's always been relatively soft on the issue of crime versus illegal immigration. she's been soft on how to work with immigration. soft on how to work with immigration . more importantly immigration. more importantly for this, this was a policy that she championed , while she was she championed, while she was prime minister helped push it through. and i think about her legacy. if this suspect if this goes she hasn't really much of her time as prime minister no, exactly. that's just in terms of the actual finer details, this or the law, if you will, if it's a normal way of doing or rewriting the law or modernising it, where we can make that people who are the victims of modern slavery, so people in variable of domestic relationships in the uk at the moment or people in sex work in the uk at the moment, all of those people still at the those people are still at the same time as people coming over

in dinghies. the intention of deaung in dinghies. the intention of dealing the streets, in dealing drugs on the streets, in are protected . now, i agree. are not protected. now, i agree. look for once i agree with theresa may on this issue. okay i'm it's a very complex issue modern slavery and each case exceptional on it's fact you can't everyone into one area say well they're all gaming the system the problem is the way thatis system the problem is the way that is considered once someone claims they've been trafficked, they kick in off the national mechanism. and that's problem because you may have an albanian who's claiming asylum and his claim be certified as clearly unfounded because he comes from a safe country. and that's fine . at the same time, that person can say, i've been trafficked , can say, i've been trafficked, then you've got to run through then you've got to run through the national referral mechanism , which could take years to deport, cannot not be reformed anyway without it making it less safe and genuine. absolutely. and this is the problem. it's the system which is wrong. it's

the system which is wrong. it's the way that the government process these things considers application. that is the problem . so we need tight control rules and we should consider those claims at the same time as the asylum claim. so both trafficking claim and this solemn are both certified as clearly . i'm sure you have clearly. i'm sure you have a view on this, so i'll go to stephen first, which is not for me. if it emerges that you have paid thousands of pounds to be transported , i would argue you transported, i would argue you straight out of the door, i'm afraid , you know, i don't get to afraid, you know, i don't get to go to my uber driver at the end of a trip. i'm sorry. i know i told you that want to come in, but already trafficked me. well, it to most it is very clear to most sensible normal if you are sensible normal that if you are paying sensible normal that if you are paying people trafficker paying the people trafficker then actually getting then you're actually getting yourself involved in the trafficking issue because you could get flight over could easily get a flight over to the uk and come here and come on holiday . you could even claim on holiday. you could even claim an application for work with a business. if you've got the right skills. so there is the question of are you paying

people traffickers to, i should say more accurately say really more accurately people yeah. get people smugglers. yeah. to get over uk and that would over into the uk and that would automatically raise flags. the question that we have and is where ivor and i in the discussion before we come in very clearly right is that the government needs to the legislation, needs to review legislation, it needs to review its procedures in order make these more smooth and accurate to get that type of person out. and if you do so, you send a message to the people smugglers that that route is no longer viable for you. yeah, it to be done out. sources close to as possible. i personally have very vocal about this. i would like to see the see the asset into wherever they are in the world and just get these people traffickers personally but apparently we incapable or unwilling to do that so maybe has the deterrent of has to be the deterrent of people knowing they will be people knowing that they will be sent they break law sent back if they break the law in way. but in terms the in this way. but in terms of the modern law, is just modern slavery law, is just theresa legacy in this theresa may's legacy in this regard. are we looking at regard. oh are we looking at a lady here who has got, well, looking at political career looking at a political career that remember is an that most people remember is an absolute shambles

absolute complete shambles in a lot cling on lot regards, trying to cling on to of credibility she might to what of credibility she might have. to what of credibility she might have . no look on that point have. no look on that point about people traffickers. they don't . that's not how it works. don't. that's not how it works. how do get her? they get her in debt. how do get her? they get her in debt . so what how do get her? they get her in debt. so what happens is the traffickers will say, we're going to bring you the uk, you'll spend going to bring you the uk, you'll spen d £20,000. let's just you'll spend £20,000. let's just say, yeah , oh yeah, you've got say, yeah, oh yeah, you've got to work that off. that's never paid. and they insist on that. but that may someone does that, then they're an idiot. no, but people at people come from desperate situations and what we can't then do as remember their own families back in albania are under threat from these if they don't work , i deal with this . i don't work, i deal with this. i had a client who had his fingers chopped off in an accident at work. someone had been trafficked . he couldn't go to trafficked. he couldn't go to nhs , he had to manage it himself nhs, he had to manage it himself . 20 years he was kept as a slave by gangmasters . so these slave by gangmasters. so these are sort of people that we need to protect and the trafficking laws help to do . but to be fair,

laws help to do. but to be fair, thatis laws help to do. but to be fair, that is a situation of their own making. they know consequences of what will happen if they take a loan from gangsters if you're in the drug trade in the uk and you're sitting there in south london know you've got london and you know you've got to one of the masters who to go to one of the masters who are the drugs are controlling the drugs trafficking element. and i want a bag of cocaine and you don't pay a bag of cocaine and you don't pay back. you that pay it back. you know that you're get shot or you're going to get shot or aned you're going to get shot or knifed it's the same knifed for. it's the same principle gangsters principle with gangsters and criminality globe. so criminality across the globe. so if it, why we if you enter it, why we therefore responsible for your errors judgement now i accept errors of judgement now i accept that but people in desperate situations do desperate things is a much wider solution . we is a much wider solution. we need to look at albania how that's doing economically retaining its own people. they're working the they're working with the government there's of government. there's lots of things that the albanian government can do . but why government can do. but why wouldn't you say, well, i want it amazing about the albanian situation, the way, is that situation, by the way, is that it pretty much. it does appear that pretty much. every european country every single european country has an issue with albanian gangsters, now it's gangsters, and now it's happening in a way you would have thought one would have

thought was europe thought that there was a europe interest in desperately trying to sort out albania. and the implication for me, which they haven't done, is that there widespread corruption and the albanians right at the heart of it government. well i think they have been from even my time in membership of the union when i was there, there were was an mep, there, there were people about albania people concerned about albania and application for and its application for membership of the european union under the corruption involved at higher both in government and local government and, the influence of very strong gangs were growing through their connections , up through places connections, up through places such as turkey and going through to afghanistan and the links that they were trying to build. now look at that, then now if you look at that, then the governments can't the governments here can't really act alone on this. this is why interpol is very important player. but important a player. but globally, trying to do globally, they are trying to do something it but wheat something about it but no wheat at moment because generally at the moment because generally are our response to are weak and our response to deaung are weak and our response to dealing these people well , dealing with these people well, there numerous different there are numerous different angles immigration angles to this immigration thing. want to move thing. i just want to move on slightly often. talk about thing that suella braverman is looking

do, students do, which involves students basically think for basically know i think for a long time can remember long time and can remember growing around the 11 game growing up around the 11 game area in in manchester if you down a few of the roads there it is fair to say there were those old style kind of quite dodgy looking you could looking universities you could see this be see very easily. this might be as kind of for well as some kind of front for well now, well they're not now, i do think well they're not there anymore a lot those there anymore a lot of those sponsor something has happened there it still just bit of there so is it still just bit of a that a lot students a lazy trope that a lot students abuse our education order to abuse our education in order to bnng abuse our education in order to bring over it a bring families over it a loophole our immigration loophole with our immigration that needs closing as well problem apparently wants to do not at all. i mean the university and colleges that give what's called a cas letter to a student are strictly monitored by the home office and if they give a cas letter which is not genuine they can their licences revoked. that's the first second point is first point. second point is student now on suella braverman bogeyman list. how much is working your way through who else can we blame? and now as students next month it'll be something else it begs the question why it's quite safe to

be realistic . i mean it does not be realistic. i mean it does not follow the body of there's just sensible which is why if you look at the cost benefit analysis of students bring in £25 billion to the uk economy and that equates to just under £400 per person in this country . now if we do what she says, bnng . now if we do what she says, bring them down to tens of thousands where we're going to make them. where's the money make up them. where's the money coming it's coming from? no, i think it's just specifically about their families. and most people families. and i most people would that you would accept that if you students here, students over here, they shouldn't bring shouldn't be allowed to bring their one of the their families. was one of the aspects comes into the aspects that comes into the changes we had boris changes that we had under boris was that you could, after five years, apply for extensions, whether it's or to do whether it's a phd or to do that. but beyond that you can stay you stay here stay and if you stay here you can stay your family. so i can stay with your family. so i am of the view that we should reviewing the whole of our system immigration, whether system of immigration, whether it's to students it's from workers to students and considering whether we adopt policies similar to that of dubai why not dubai? no, because they're not the students that not the students. you don't get allowed to go in dubai, bring

you. it's the word dependent. somehow i mean, when i was at university. no is dependent on me. is about maybe me. this is more about maybe anything fair. but my anything else to be fair. but my interest financially how interest financially. how on earth anyone? the idea earth could anyone? so the idea that all a sudden you've that all of a sudden you've got you know, four or five dependents and you're studying at university. at bristol university. i just don't they can't claim don't i don't they can't claim benefits. they pay the benefits. they pay for the health service . they've paid the health service. they've paid the student fees . they only cost to student fees. they only cost to us would be the education for the children . and there's not the children. and there's not that many who bring kids who go to university , go the school. to university, go to the school. so doesn't actually cost us so it doesn't actually cost us very much . it's just a headline very much. it's just a headline to bring. but true. but those families contributing into the tax system , if they're here, you tax system, if they're here, you know, they're working to pay the spouses are allowed to work. so they will well so therefore there is a bit of ghost door in it. yeah. it's a back door in it so that goes back to what people are concerned about is that these people can in on the backs of their spouse for students then work and when they should be to the economy. well it's

wrong with that. but that's again a way of avoiding the rules. visas for employment , rules. visas for employment, which is why we need wholesale. we supposed to have wholesale reform after 2016. brexit, where it made it very, very clear who are the skilled workers. but as we've discussed prior to coming onto show, the skilled onto the show, the skilled workers, categorised that workers, what's categorised that is a mess. someone can come as a fish and chip owner, as a skilled someone who's not skilled and someone who's not lot of great relatives. they would regard owning a fish and chip being highly as the chip shop as being highly as the business of it. i was a flip , be business of it. i was a flip, be honest. i know if i was an indian in colleges top of my profession and i'm thinking about coming to the uk to do some extra and i couldn't bring my wife my kids. i'd go to the state, go elsewhere and that's what we're talking about. they have a issue in that they have a similar issue it and they don't always allow families as always allow their families as we chaps thoroughly enjoyed we know chaps thoroughly enjoyed this very great stuff. that was very, very great stuff. that was a wonderful time sums in there as well stephen wolf well we're away and gentlemen, we are away. remarkable anyway. get your

views is gb news views coming in. gbp is gb news uk. there's three big ones. we cover the three big cover two out, the three big ones it comes to ones that when it comes to immigration which is of immigration today which is of course popping up and course theresa popping up and saying, water down saying, please don't water down or up i suppose or tongue it up i suppose depends where you look at it, the laws, it the modern slavery laws, it might more unfair for might make it more unfair for who are genuine victims of modern country . a of modern in this country. a lot of people the side and people on the other side and really what rishi sunak's i think say maybe a bit think trying say and maybe a bit cack handedly is he wants cack handedly is that he wants us stop being taken for ride us to stop being taken for ride by people who are coming over the channel claiming to be victims modern slavery. victims of modern slavery. so there's it. we've there's that side of it. we've also got a problem to also got a problem looking to tighten our education, slash tighten up our education, slash immigration system with the spouses and the spouses coming over. and the third talk third one we're going to talk about on, it's about about a bit later on, it's about the boats, where they're coming from getting to from and how they getting to calais. sure we're all calais. i'm sure we're all scratching has surely scratching our has going surely surely must it must be surely surely it must it must be doable to the boats actually getting to of calais. but of getting to the of calais. but of course why the want course why would the french want to them? because it does to stop them? because it does mean certain people mean that certain people might not country to not want in their country to leave country, but that we leave their country, but that we go gb news on gbnews.uk irvine has on that's crikey

has been on that's a crikey name. yvonne, beating name. yvonne, stop beating around go and around the bush where we go and lay blame this problem lay the blame for this problem exactly it belongs the exactly where it belongs the french government. you knew was coming out london. it'sjust coming out of london. it's just on dates now. he's aiding on new dates now. he's aiding and abetting the people traffickers. all the french government to do is government needs to do is enforce international laws pertain to the safety of life at sea in france, people sea or. in france, it's people trafficking, activity. trafficking, illegal activity. the would the french, of course would claim that there is a lot to be that says . what would the that frank says. what would the french sort of how french? yeah i don't i what would the french do if? immigrants were coming out from the uk they would turn the boats away and not rescue them from british waters . i them from british waters. i mean, it's an experiment that could take place nor should could take place and nor should it, ultimately i think it, because ultimately i think lives lot of lives will be put lives a lot of lives will be put at but will be at risk. but i will be fascinated, frank, what the fascinated, frank, see what the french if she was french would do if the she was on other foot anyway. on the other foot anyway. theresa immigration is the theresa says immigration is the only whistles drums of only the whistles and drums of the left. full silence. the ultra left. full silence. it's the time. their indoctrination is the same . what indoctrination is the same. what i think is fascinating, terry, will be how this plays out in future. i can't help but notice that some the countries that

some these are coming from some of these are coming from are not exactly famed for things like women's rights gay like women's rights and gay rights point do massive rights and what point do massive issues raise their heads that that doesn't really too well with the old i call them the rainbow flag brigades it seems to be on the beaches that the refugees and all this. yeah fine that's great and that's lovely of but you know actually of you but you know actually do they the same values, they have maybe the same values, every single one of them as the ones want all of us to ones that you want all of us to have on in that get your views, keep coming lesley says, keep coming in. lesley says, i am sorry, but mrs. may says am so sorry, but mrs. may says theresa her mouth theresa should keep her mouth shut? interested. her shut? i'm not interested. her opinions too soft opinions far too soft on everything only to protect everything only wants to protect her legacy , nothing more. tell her legacy, nothing more. i tell you from my experience she you what, from my experience she might protect her might want to protect her constituency are constituency seats. things are on turn. there in the on the turn. there in the maidenhead area. right? you all we patrick christys on gb we may patrick christys on gb news coming. a winter storm has left city of buffalo left american city of buffalo looking zone. that's looking like a zone. that's according governor new according to the governor new york who said that york state who said that residents were facing a life threatening situation were frozen death in cars frozen to death in their cars oven frozen to death in their cars over. that absolutely bunk .

over. that is absolutely bunk. it's already left 60 dead across the us could this weather actually make its way to the uk? we will find out next. but now it's time. i believe for some weather of our own . well, we've weather of our own. well, we've got windy conditions, many clouds and of rain moving east. so a wet evening for southwest england . rain and drizzle gusty england. rain and drizzle gusty winds, too, but mild for the time of attempt to run 11 celsius is the high and showery outbreaks of rain continuing evening across much of the south—east of england, with some brisk southwesterly winds. temperatures around nine celsius. then the rain clearing east across wales this evening, though, taking its time to care for the south and east of wales , staying windy too. and a cloudy end of the day. then as head up to the midlands with further spells of rain that be heavy at times, leading to some tncky heavy at times, leading to some tricky travelling conditions, breezy to temperatures around nine celsius. once more there then outbreaks of rain continuing move east this evening across northern england

with the rain heavy at times but should be drier than from the west . as the evening goes on, west. as the evening goes on, temperatures , yes, around nine temperatures, yes, around nine degrees once more . scattered degrees once more. scattered showers following today's rain and then across scotland , and then across scotland, although we still got that yellow weather warning in place, the showers falling as snow. therefore, the higher with therefore, on the higher with icy stretches with close to freezing . largely dry end of the freezing. largely dry end of the day for northern ireland. plenty of clear spells , just a few of clear spells, just a few showers possible . staying showers possible. staying blustery there, particularly across the coasts and the hills heading mostly dry in the north, but icy stretches once more for scots ireland and rain returning in the south. we news live will be keeping you in the picture finding out what's happening across the country and finding out why it matters to you. we'll have the facts fast with our team of reporters and specialist correspondents . wherever it's correspondents. wherever it's happening, we'll be there in 12 noon tv, radio and online gb noon on tv, radio and online gb news peoples channel. britain's news peoples channel. britain's

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welcome that wonderful know you all. we've been patrick christys on gb news emergency crews in new york have been scrambling to rescue residents from what's been described by authorities as the blizzard of the century . so the blizzard of the century. so far the storm has left to eight people dead in new york . it's people dead in new york. it's taken at least 60 lives across the us apparently froze to death in their own cars, which is unreal, isn't it? really you think about it. that's like a disaster movie. president joe biden issued a federal declaration for new york . declaration for new york. there's now questions on our of the pond about whether we could on the receiving end of something. well, a little bit like this anyway in the coming weeks and get this on community over here is mixed on it which is not reassuring actually i normally like as much clarity as possible from whether men and

women, but they are very split on this and hate discuss on this and i hate to discuss this right we may, as this right now. we may, as sommer, a reporter at sommer, who's a reporter at buffalo news buffalo, is buffalo news now buffalo, is nearly miles from new york nearly 400 miles from new york city, being the city, but is being at the epicentre of of the worst epicentre of some of the worst of storms. thank you very of these storms. thank you very much for joining of these storms. thank you very much forjoining . i mean, much forjoining. i mean, firstly , you all right? you seem firstly, you all right? you seem all right. you're indoors least i am indoors . yeah. we're i am indoors. yeah. we're actually in the third day of recovery, right. what you're looking at and what people are seeing on their screen is the whiteout conditions that lasted for about 48 hours. the first two days of the buffalo blizzard , one for the ages. the governor of new york called it you you had a convergence of whiteout conditions . you couldn't see conditions. you couldn't see more than a few feet ahead of you. and then you had gusting winds up to 70 miles per hour. you had . 109 centimetres of snow you had. 109 centimetres of snow dropped , all within a very short dropped, all within a very short amount of time it made it extremely difficult. you see

people shovelling and you're on your screen. so we're in the third day of recovery. there's still a ban in effect for the city of buffalo and, a neighbouring city. but the rest of the county is as lifted its travel ban. so there's some some positive developments happening now because it's not snowing winds gone the way that you said. it happened very quickly . said. it happened very quickly. did happen very quickly. and to the absolute extreme , jim, as the absolute extreme, jim, as far as we understand it, the death toll currently stands at around 60 across the whole of the us. one imagine, mark, the us. one would imagine, mark, and hate say, that is and i hate to say, but that is going rise a lot as the snow going to rise a lot as the snow thaws and people finally go and check on the elderly down the road . i mean, people in their road. i mean, people in their cars have been dying, apparently that's what's been happening . that's what's been happening. you know, a lot of people have been well, many people there, about 12,000 people are still without electricity some of them in the city of buffalo, some of them since friday. so that's you know, we're now in our fourth

day with freezing temperatures. so it's hard to what's going on inside every home but there have been people as you pointed out found frozen to death in their there was a travel ban instituted immediately on friday morning but it didn't stop a lot of people from getting in their cars maybe they wanted to rush to relative's houses christmas maybe they wanted to get suppues maybe they wanted to get supplies at the last minute whatever the case may be . a lot whatever the case may be. a lot of people were out of their homes when they shouldn't have been. some froze to death. it also made really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snow to clear the roads because they had these scattered, stranded cars all over the place now. so it well, thankfully, it appears the worst is over, although a mammoth operation still come, mark. and ihope operation still come, mark. and i hope that you and your are all safe and that you remain that you look after yourselves. no really appreciate you taking the time to. this show and time to. come on this show and just explain us exactly what just explain to us exactly what your experiences over your lived experiences over that. mark somebody who's a

reporter buffalo news now reporter at buffalo news now joining me throughout the show and got time squeeze and i've just got time squeeze in little bit . get to in for a little bit. we get to the it's wonderful the news. it's a wonderful nannden the news. it's a wonderful narinder, narinder yes, narinder, cau and narinder yes, i want to just have a quick chat with because you're going to be here throughout the that the here throughout the way that the show gone far. you've just show has gone far. you've just been doing a lot of sitting and actually my not because always actually my not because i always get too much. so and i get i talk too much. so and i think there is a little bit of a fight i know we disagree on a lot of things christmas. lot of things about christmas. i don't to fight you. oh, we don't have to fight you. oh, we don't have to fight you. oh, we don't have to fight. go back to the snowstorm. now, do you remember had beast from remember when we had beast from the about so we had the east about to us so we had nothing. i thought this nothing. i thought that and this country cope when we get country can't cope when we get a bit of frost the ground. so bit of frost on the ground. so can you imagine if we had that? well we'll talk about well supposedly we'll talk about this bit around this a little bit later around here. supposedly, are about here. supposedly, we are about to get a couple of weeks of wild weather in january. i can't i know. i we to expect it. know. i we have to expect it. this is the uk, but could not cope that. i don't like cope with that. i don't like it's then what it's too cold. and then what about heating costs. well about the heating costs. well this the other thing. i'm this is the other thing. i'm anxious. my anxiety it's going

up to the up thinking i have to put the heating will be cold and heating will all be cold and then bills for my concern then the bills for my concern would be they make me would be that they make me sleep here all cities but here in all the cities but thought you did sleep here because the hardest because you're the hardest working in patrick, i'll working man in tv. patrick, i'll funny people afterwards funny stories people afterwards apparently zilli the chef to superstars the office on superstars is in the office on and i thought i'd cut off a little nap the presenters change room and woke up to all those room and i woke up to all those early and it out been early and it out that i'd been sitting on his hot hand because i had . to very different that's i had. to very different that's what i actually thought when you said the way that old anyway right i go for many patrick christys on gb news gout the condition that can cause excruciating pain in toes, rays, elbows, knees . well, it's back elbows, knees. well, it's back people is back in recent years , people is back in recent years, admissions to the disease have skyrocketed . we will speak to skyrocketed. we will speak to a gp about that next. but first, it's gp about that next. but first, wsfime gp about that next. but first, it's time for the latest headlines. a man i'm reliably informed has never had gout. it's my monday. in 3:03. he's

the latest from the gb newsroom. at least 60 people are now believed to have died as winter storms continue to hammer the us and canada. the freezing temperatures. blizzard conditions have left many areas under more than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo, new york has been the york state has been hit the hardest with 27 fatalities, many of whom froze to death in their cars. of whom froze to death in their cars . the 23 year old of whom froze to death in their cars. the 23 year old man has died after being stabbed at a nightclub in birmingham on boxing day. west midlands police . they were called to the incident just before midnight. hundreds of people were at the nightclub and. witnesses are being urged to come forward . being urged to come forward. meanwhile, merseyside police continuing to question two people in connection with the shooting of 26 year old elle edwards at a pub on christmas eve . a 30 year old man has been eve. a 30 year old man has been arrested, suspicion of murder and attempted murder. a 19 year old woman has been arrested on of conspiracy to murder .

old woman has been arrested on of conspiracy to murder. rail passengers are being told expect significant disruption into the new year amid a wave of industrial unrest across the country. there were busy scenes london's king's cross station earlier due to the knock on effects of boxing strikes. members of the tsa at crosscountry staged a 24 hour walkout from 9:00 yesterday as , walkout from 9:00 yesterday as, part of their long running dispute over pay and conditions . we're on tv , dispute over pay and conditions .we're on tv , online and on dab .we're on tv, online and on dab plus radio. you're watching gb news. don't go anywhere, patrick. we'll be back in just a moment .

okay ladies and gentlemen, now, every festive period , hundreds every festive period, hundreds of dogs across the country are rescued , abandonment or taken rescued, abandonment or taken into animal. with the increases into animal. with the increases in the cost of living, this year

will be no different if i take a point of view a bit worse. so i'd say bless them and dog homes across the country are man's best friend. a second at best friend. a second chance at life. west midlands life. we our west midlands report cards and to a birmingham dog's to out a bit dog's home to find out a bit more . a dog for life , not more. a dog is for life, not just for christmas . the phrase just for christmas. the phrase coined by the charity dogs trust remains as true as ever. 40 years later , every christmas, years later, every christmas, the rspca estimate 4000 animals are dumped in england . wales, are dumped in england. wales, when they're found , many are when they're found, many are brought to charities like birmingham home and their sunnyside centre in wolverhampton . centre manager wolverhampton. centre manager karen dowie says . the number of karen dowie says. the number of dogs brought here is up on last yeah dogs brought here is up on last year. they took wardens to bring in the dogs in daily. this particular centre has five five local authorities. and i there's nine altogether between the two sites. hasan birmingham , sites. hasan birmingham, solihull. so do get a lot of said we're up this year there's 250 dogs have come to date more this year than last year. so we

are extremely strongly pushed for in enquiries daily about people asking if we can help take their dogs when they can't afford them any. the charity has existed the midlands for more than 130 years, but in the middle a cost of living, crisis keeping place like this open has been made more difficult over the past year. it had a fundraising fee, harrison explained . so we have full explained. so we have full kennels which means that we have more mouths to feed more vet bills and more kennels to keep warm. so a fundraiser in a pay off for christmas is moving portant than ever. we have lots of support from local businesses, which is great. so people bringing down donations of , biscuits and toys, of food, biscuits and toys, which is fabulous. of food, biscuits and toys, which is fabulous . rosa got an which is fabulous. rosa got an appeal on our website where people can go on there and they can donate online. they can donate in memory. people in memory of memory of dogs. so we're trying to be and there's many as we can just to keep support coming in. it's not just

donations at send to leave the dogs. this place is full , so dogs. this place is full, so they need people to come and adopt dogs like timothy and dogs to adopt come in. all shapes and sizes. this is . he's a nine sizes. this is. he's a nine month old american bulldog. cross and arrived at the centre in october. but unfortunately, upon his arrival he had to have surgery . became interested in surgery. became interested in october had unfortunately got a damaged left hind leg and some 74 x rays straight away and unfortunately out it have been treated injury to his leg and had damage to his side for his pelvis and his father. had damage to his side for his pelvis and his father . so we pelvis and his father. so we sent him to have to take him because that we started thinking we could try to make him comfortable. he is definitely not dampening his spirits and he's a really happy chap and loving lifestyle . so that's loving lifestyle. so that's nice. without birmingham home, donald would not be the bouncy nine month old pup he is today

this christmas and new year, when calls come in from people who can no look after their canine companion , charities like canine companion, charities like this across country will be this across the country will be there to love and look after until they can hopefully find their home. chuck carson . gb their forever home. chuck carson. gb package that i must say . not the package that i must say. not the first time. chuck no, no. and here in tokyo joins me in the studio right now. before we go to our guest on this one that you just let me know you are you not person. you know my not a dog person. you know my son really a dog for son really wanted a dog for christmas and he thought he was going dog and christmas going to get a dog and christmas day and no dog was there day came and no dog was there and reason being i was attacked by when i was by german shepherd when i was 12, old, and i ended up 12,13 years old, and i ended up in hospital. that's it. and i was just bitten all over. well, i going say, arrive i was going to say, you arrive all right but i'm just all right now, but i'm just scared dogs ever since. and scared of dogs ever since. and people said, no, no, you just had the wrong dog some had the wrong dog in some effects you for life i can imagine my kids it but imagine my kids that's it but you dog now do you look you want a dog now do you look at them think but what at them think but no what about you're definitely person.

you're definitely a dog person. oh, just come and have them. we did a thing. was covering did a thing. i was covering breakfast on with the breakfast earlier on with the wonderful costello wonderful ellie costello and we would basically force our would try to basically force our bosses getting dog bosses into getting a studio dog here news oh, why wouldn't here in gb news oh, why wouldn't they well, haven't they get one? well, they haven't actually approved. it it's just one of those don't one of those things you don't want so they want to ask them. so they definitely no, we're just definitely say, no, we're just going hope to garner enough going to hope to garner enough pubuc going to hope to garner enough public and they have public attention and they have to really. there you to do it, really. but there you go well they're in go right. they well they're in i'm leave you sitting i'm going leave you sitting there bit because we're there a little bit because we're going go to our guests now, going to go to our guests now, lee henderson, who is a friend of the channel it's lee henderson, manager, henderson, kennel manager, straight in durham. and we've got a relationship with got a bit of a relationship with strait, we've the strait, actually. we've got the wonderful korean war league, wonderful korean war league, wonderful we cora wonderful cold rehab. we cora a little of exposure here gb little bit of exposure here gb news wonderful. news which was wonderful. ashleigh fine ashleigh how are you? i'm fine patrick. you to well. patrick. how you to very well. thank much for giving thank you very much for giving us better i thank you very much for giving us betteri hope thank you very much for giving us better i hope you had us a better i hope you had a wonderful christmas actually. and so just talk us little and so just talk to us a little bit current state of bit about the current state of play bit about the current state of play at australia. are you seeing more of demand increase seeing more of a demand increase in people just in demand? people just basically, i suppose basically, you know, i suppose a bit a skin and i've bit maybe a bit skin and i've to either give dogs up or

either give the dogs up or certainly not come and get one and the same . obviously i've and the same. obviously i've just watched a brief boat with the gossip and the dog so everybody's in the same boat and there's a lot of people out there's a lot of people out there that are falling and we've experienced a large number of phone calls and, you know, one and maybe for and five phone calls. somebody want to hand over a dog . yeah, exactly . and i over a dog. yeah, exactly. and i mean, it is a i mean, you know, we are a nation of dog lovers, animal lovers in general, really. and, you know i think it would be nice if people maybe turn places like yourself straight than going down the pedigree route. do you think . we pedigree route. do you think. we can all sort of breed to , you can all sort of breed to, you know, when i first started ten years ago, it was full of stuffies since then, obviously lurches over the main breeds , lurches over the main breeds, especially from where we are the north, but we do see breeds of,

you know, many different , you you know, many different, you know, things that we get through the door, what we just cope on a daily basis with sims everybody you know the cost of living definitely kicking in with the gossipy people looking after their own dogs. gossipy people looking after their own dogs . yeah no their own dogs. yeah no absolutely . and there's even absolutely. and there's even spaces like doggie food banks opening up in scotland from what i've as well. but would you say to people instead of making a rash decision on just going, oh, you know, just want a dog, they need to think it through a bit because unfortunately those dogs will learn to love the new owner . and then as lovely as places australia are, they'll find themselves back. that wasn't there. when the owner realises that they can't cope . but that they can't cope. but there's a lot of things. i mean dunng there's a lot of things. i mean during covid every wanted to rehome dogs. it was an to get out and about weren't realising what breeds were taking on board whether it be garden breeds you know work on breeds and it caused a lot of separation anxiety when people had to go

back to work before christmas we saw a lot of pops coming , which saw a lot of pops coming, which isn't norm for us. and we tend to out a lot of dogs have like across the edge and, a lot of dogs are old need vet treatment and it has put a strain on the charity of . okay well thank you charity of. okay well thank you very very much as always and you said you had a good christmas. you have a wonderful new year. everything goes well at st eight and there is a website , we've and there is a website, we've got a website that people can go if seen you on it now and they want to a look at some of want to have a look at some of dogs that you've got. yeah, it's interviewed a blue dot straight all you care and we have got dogs, a prairie home and no good man. well, good luck man. all right. well, good luck to thank much, lily to you. thank you much, lily anderson. kind want to get out anderson. i kind want to get out straight in durham right now. ladies gentlemen, were going straight in durham right now. la be; gentlemen, were going straight in durham right now. la be doing gentlemen, were going straight in durham right now. la be doing alltlemen, were going straight in durham right now. la be doing all that. n, were going straight in durham right now. la be doing all that. i were going straight in durham right now. la be doing all that. i couldn'ting to be doing all that. i couldn't believe this either. a segment on gout. that's right. but apparently we're having a little bit of trouble, the guests up,

which means that they're in the car. who is me right now? i have a chat with me about, frankly, whatever you to do so. i whatever you want to do so. i mean, we going to talk a little bit about some of the stories that up in the that have popped up in the papers, haven't we? talk a papers, haven't we? but talk a little bit about about the festival right. festival situation. all right. because least lucy's because ties in at least lucy's what be talking well what we going to be talking well i know that there was some today about when start your diet. yes and apparently january the and apparently was january the third right iowa third i mean right on your iowa start christmas diet today start my christmas diet today actually after boxing actually the day after boxing day you because you had day about you because you had this night. what does this time last night. what does it look there in la? what it look like there in la? what is la? but i think the is la la? but i think the drinking the problem. i think drinking is the problem. i think the you the drinking and but you obviously can't drinking obviously can't be drinking because. you want. yes, but my drinking out of control at drinking goes out of control at christmas. you think on christmas. and then you think on i've got to be. well, that's the thing i must say. this is my first sober christmas a very, first sober christmas in a very, very time and i will have very long time and i will have needed it anyway of work needed to do it anyway of work and but must actually i and stuff but i must actually i feel a lot better for it. i do feel a lot better for it. i do feel better for it. but then i eating too much. exactly. yeah you're replacing alcohol you're replacing the alcohol

with 100. if i had with food? yeah, 100. if i had a two week old pie, by the way, i was about to ask, how old are these and where are they from? what say? i don't what can we cannot say? i don't know. i'm of a snob, know. yeah, i'm a bit of a snob, but it's going to go wherever that from. they're going to get up and walk out there in about another time. no another week's time. if no one eat them because been eat them because they've been there that long. and yeah, people incredibly people are getting incredibly unhealthy. the christmas food comes. your christmas. unhealthy. the christmas food comes.what your christmas. unhealthy. the christmas food comes.what what. (our christmas. unhealthy. the christmas food comes.what what. we' christmas. unhealthy. the christmas food comes.what what. we ate'istmas. unhealthy. the christmas food comes.what what. we ate on has. what? what what. we ate on christmas day. a curry of yasmin curry because we're vegetarian on it's complicated on sunday it's complicated not going it. but my going to go into it. but my daughter was upset fuming because not eating because she says, i'm not eating daal day. and she daal on christmas day. and she took her intention to took a pinch of her intention to all about the abuse at. and all her about the abuse at. and your son get so excited. your son didn't get so excited. it horrible. it a it was horrible. it was a terrible christmas the core terrible christmas in the core of a house that did christmas of a house that we did christmas on day. yes don't you did christmas on boxing day. that's fascinating, because in a lot of coaches, they do christmas on christmas eve. in mexico, christmas eve. yes. in mexico, we we did it the other we did it. we did it the other way. we did it on boxing day. just like furrowing your own through yes but tell you through lines. yes but tell you what, talking on.

what, we should be talking on. there is. the agency leeches there it is. the agency leeches sucking nhs . you do know the sucking the nhs. you do know the agency's been forever. this isn't something new. no, i get it. also, i've got a bit of a mixed feeling on this. my only concern is. well, it looks like massive waste of taxpayers for money paying for money already paying for the nhs. paying nhs. then we're paying for people agency stuff , people to find agency stuff, work in the nhs. but but you do know that if the nhs paid properly, the nurses and doctors, then they wouldn't leave go agency. so the leave to go an agency. so the nhs just need to pay the right wages and retain that staff. it's really simple. now one of the things, one of the things that i find upsetting fascinating about it is the absolute scale of the money that is being a half a billion pounds a year to provide locum nurses and doctors, which makes me just wonder, don't we just wonder, why don't we just privatise the thing anyway ? privatise the thing anyway? well, because the nhs is the is the biggest thing that we have in this continued can't just privatise it, but the locum costs, obviously they have to have the right amount of nurses for say safety patients . they do

for say safety patients. they do and if that's the case they have to pay on saturday you know everyone's in so they need but part of me thinks now we're going to go to doctor soon but part of me just think maybe just maybe there are a lot of nurses and doctors just a little bit quiet these quiet because work at these agencies actually it agencies and they're actually it in so they didn't really back nurses strike i just wonder oh that's very cynical just wonder what else what is it i would sense this this is this is that because i think it might be about people. yeah so we get it at times. i've heard that the diseases of king seem to be making a return now. gowns is a variety inflammatory that variety of inflammatory that causes sudden and severe joint pain. well, admissions to the disease have surged in recent years with nearly a quarter of a million people heading to hospitals 2021 and 2022. it is known as a disease kings because it is associated with excessive of meat and alcohol will come as no surprise to everybody to learn. i had gout in my twenties back in the day. that was something only nobility could

afford. well here with me to discuss this is of is that the nhs does also thank you very much right so look certainly more serious i know that gout gallops one of those things that you don't really want to tell anyone you've had i appreciate i've just told everyone at home but because people do it's but because people do think it's down to eating pate and down to you eating pate and loads of red wine. is there lot of truth to that ? so, i mean, of truth to that? so, i mean, there is obviously there are some truth to that in of your, you know, your consumption, how much that does, you know, kind of cause the uric acid to up, which obviously then causes gout . so there there a lot about . so there is there a lot about truth to that and. so do you do you if you being honest, right? if it's just you and me in room now, do you have absolutely no sympathy for anyone with gout? because they've kind of done it to themselves, you know. well, no, have some of no, of course i have some of these mean, like, you these go. i mean, it's like, you know, of condemning people know, kind of condemning people in the lifestyle know choices. i mean, people smoke . you're mean, people smoke. you're trying make people have all

trying to make people have all sorts lifestyle. i sorts of lifestyle. yeah. i mean, you go down a really mean, it's you go down a really slippery slope if you start people based on what they actually do , if you start actually do, if you just start judging, then are judging, then those are fantastic. i'm sorry you've knocked you've that into knocked you've kicked that into the doctor. tell it the long grass doctor. tell it immediately straight but immediately straight about but we are seeing we all but we are seeing apparently an incredible apparently anyway an incredible number with it now number of people with it now a rising which implies that rising number which implies that a now an a lot of people now of an unhealthy lifestyle than previously there being previously despite there being more than ever there about more than ever out there about to live . well yeah. i mean, of to live. well yeah. i mean, of course you can always know inform people. you can always educate about them. you know, part of low is that you've got the choice to make your own decisions that's, you know, decisions and that's, you know, kind of one of the good things mother and is not, you know, retreat regardless of, retreat in that regardless of, you why come what you know, why you come in, what condition brought you in. condition has brought you in. and i asked the top doctor a question about how can gout care? is it true that they can chop off your feet and things that how bad it gets ? that is that how bad it gets? oh, you die bottom. so yeah. oh, can you die bottom. so yeah. sorry. got no go. no say can

they took you first off with gout.i they took you first off with gout . i mean they took you first off with gout. i mean it's very rare, you know , but it kind of really bad know, but it kind of really bad that the pain becomes unbearable know and it's not, you know, it's the pain isn't doesn't get better things like car seats more on steroids and ibuprofen and anti—inflammatories you know it's it can get really bad but i mean not quite diabetes you know you're not i mean it's very erratic you know if what chopped off because i just on this look obviously one of the main reasons that we're doing this now is this christmas is a time for overindulgence and whoever's running pay did running gout to pay out as did a fantastic job because emailed our producers they just christmas here we are doctor christmas and here we are doctor totally it now the totally talking about it now the perfect but how easy is perfect timing but how easy is it to get rid of gout is it you know if you live well for about a month or so make certain lifestyle changes. you know, you're in business. i mean, you're back in business. i mean, the real question , how easy is the real question, how easy is it to make lifestyle choices after month? you know, i mean, after a month? you know, i mean, the whole point of it being a lifestyle choice is that you

have completely change your have to completely change your lifestyle. and i can imagine that a bit more that requires a little bit more than a month to that. mm all right. fair enough. well dr. ali, thank you very, very much, because everyone are you are marginal the picture of health, by the way. you certainly look like are. you often like you are. did you often overly christmas or can you just take it leave it with the take it or leave it with the unhealthy snacks? i mean i did have overly indulgent have an overly indulgent christmas, know, i mean christmas, but, you know, i mean what what christmas for? what was what was christmas for? you some people you know yeah well some people would say there's a deep seated religious element. people religious element. other people would that about would say that is all about stuffing face, but that would not necessarily give very, very much. he is of course a wonderful nhs doctor. gosh, he was . he was wonderful nhs doctor. gosh, he was. he was such a handsome man and amazing teeth. yeah. doctor to amazing teeth. you eat good . to amazing teeth. you eat good. oh, well, i'm married , you know. oh, well, i'm married, you know. happily, yes. oh, well, i'm married, you know. happily, yes . all right. oh, happily, yes. all right. oh, well there we go. but something is interesting. i yeah, i must say, it's one of those things. i can't believe you had gout your twenties. why is ? just was it twenties. why is? just was it your student days ? no, no, it

your student days? no, no, it wasn't . it was just not long wasn't. it was just not long after it, i think was just. well, it was just all the reasons why people got gowns. and was it painful you. it was annoying . it was a very mild annoying. it was a very mild case.it annoying. it was a very mild case. it went away in a couple of weeks. i would probably go back in time and out. it back in time and wash out. it mentioned unnatural because everyone in the gallery and testify hilarious. you are testify to it hilarious. you are being on gb being patrick christys on gb news. wonderful ltd co is news. the wonderful ltd co is with show. with me throughout the show. lots come the next hour. lots more to come the next hour. gosh, only an hour in. but before that, i want give you before that, i want to give you a preview. we're going to a quick preview. we're going to be watching you. three be watching you. the three latest when it comes latest top lines when it comes to is the prince to migration is the prince andrew which absolutely andrew, which is absolutely hilarious . well, as well hilarious. well, and as well middle class couples could face a £40,000 hit to their incomes. who would have thought it? but now your weather. well, we've now as your weather. well, we've got windy conditions many clouds and outbreaks of rain moving east so wet evening for south—west england. rain and drizzle gusty winds too. but for the time of year, temperatures around 11 celsius as the high and showery outbreaks of rain

continuing evening across much of the south—east of england, with some brisk southwesterly winds. temperatures around nine celsius. then the rain clearing east across wales this evening, though, taking its time to care for the south and east of wales , staying windy too. and the cloudy, end of the day then as we head up to the middle ends with further spells of that could be heavy at times, leading to some tricky travelling conditions. breezy temperatures around nine celsius once more there. then outbreaks of rain continue to move east this evening across northern england with the rain heavy at times, but should be drier than from the west as . the evening goes the west as. the evening goes on, temperatures , yes, around on, temperatures, yes, around nine degrees once more. scottish showers following today's rain and snow. then across , although and snow. then across, although we got that yellow weather we still got that yellow weather warning in place. the showers falling as snow. therefore higher ground with icy stretches with temperatures close to freezing , largely dry end of the freezing, largely dry end of the day for northern ireland. plenty of clear spells , just a few of clear spells, just a few showers possible . staying

showers possible. staying blustery, though, particularly the coasts and the hills heading overnight, mostly dry in the north, but icy stretches . much north, but icy stretches. much more for scotland and returning in the .

to welcome back it's 4 pm. you'll remain patrick christys on. gb news lots in immigration today from one prime minister to another. theresa may has essentially told rishi sunak's if he can. reforming modern slavery an effort to combat illegal migration nearly . 50,000 illegal migration nearly. 50,000 people have made the journey the channel alone. this and at least 60 people have tragically died

in snowstorms across the united . as the country finds itself the centre of an extreme cold snap. the centre of an extreme cold snap . we'll have the latest from snap. we'll have the latest from buffalo, the city at the epicentre of these storms . and epicentre of these storms. and we'll ask crucially whether or not like this could about to hit the uk the nhs spending tens of millions on middle manning solar power agency staff. it is a shocking waste of taxpayers money from a broken health service. however as well the argument that to be fair that if we did increase nurses and paramedics such as wages and maybe we wouldn't to spend so much, not just on the staff but on the brokers , get you the on the brokers, get you the middlemen and mental woman. there's a lot to chat about that and i'll be doing a lot of it throughout the course of the show for wonderful new in show for the wonderful new in the cheese a gb news the cool cheese a gb news regular. she describes regular. now she describes herself star from herself as a five star from newcastle. i say she's so much more than that and it's been an absolute complete and a godsend to the ray of sunshine, i must say. thank very much say. so thank you very much there throughout the day. there and throughout the day. i want get views as well want to get your views as well

on all the topics that we'll be discussing. your views as discussing. go to your views as much as possible. i would quite like get your views on the like to get your views on the latest immigration front. latest on the immigration front. there this, there are three angles to this, so got more than enough so you've got more than enough go you've got the go out. okay. you've got the fact that the modern slavery laws are tough enough. do you think being for think we're being taken for a ride on that? also may popping think we're being taken for a rid

conditions have left many areas under more than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo in new york state has been hit. the hardest, with 27 fatalities. as many people to death in their cars. many people to death in their cars . president joe biden many people to death in their cars. president joe biden has declared federal emergency . declared federal emergency. somma is a journalist with buffalo news. he told patrick people were warned not to use the roads or as a travel ban institute. it immediately on friday morning. but it didn't stop a lot of people from getting in the cars maybe they wanted to rush to relative houses for christmas. maybe they wanted to get supplies at the last minute, whatever the case may be . a lot of people were out may be. a lot of people were out of their homes. they shouldn't have been and some froze to death. it also it really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snow ploughs to clear the roads because . they to clear the roads because. they had these scattered stranded cars all over the place . well, cars all over the place. well, back here merseyside police are continuing to question two people in connection with the fatal of a 26 year old woman on

christmas eve, elle edwards was shot at the lighthouse pub in wallasey village while celebrating christmas with friends and family. the 30 year old man has been arrested on of murder and attempted murder. old man has been arrested on of murder and attempted murder . the murder and attempted murder. the 19 year old woman has been arrested . suspicion of arrested. suspicion of conspiracy to , murder . conspiracy to, murder. meanwhile, a 23 year old man has died , after being stabbed at a died, after being stabbed at a nightclub, birmingham, on boxing day . west midlands police saying day. west midlands police saying they were to the incident just before midnight . hundreds of before midnight. hundreds of people were at the crane nightclub at the time . witnesses nightclub at the time. witnesses are being urged to come forward while rail passengers are being told to expect significant disruption into the new year amid a wave of industrial unrest across the country . there were across the country. there were busy scenes at london's king's cross station earlier due to the knock on effects of those boxing day strikes. members of the sas, a cross—country staged a 24 hour walkout from 9 pm. yesterday as part of their long dispute over pay

part of their long dispute over pay and conditions. the levelling up. secretary says opposition's new housing developments could be reduced by focusing on better design. michael gove says too many planning applications , planning applications, indifferent or insipid and the potential of some public spaces is not being utilised . potential of some public spaces is not being utilised. he is supporting calls from the policy exchange think tank for a new national school of , urban design national school of, urban design and architecture . teachers and architecture. teachers unions have condemned scottish government's decision to delay the rollout of free school meals . all primary school pupils saying the food programme is vital to tackle child poverty dunng vital to tackle child poverty during the cost living crisis. the introduction of the scheme was due to happen back in august , but the scottish government's is defending their delay, saying scotland has , the most generous scotland has, the most generous universal provision of free school lunches in the whole uk . school lunches in the whole uk. yellow warning remains in place for snow and ice in the north and east of scotland met office

says freezing conditions could last until 10 am. tomorrow. travel is possible as wintry showers create patchy ice mainly on higher higher routes. traffic scotland says motorists should plan ahead . you're watching gb plan ahead. you're watching gb news bring you more as it happens. let's get back to patrick . patrick. hey, welcome back, everybody . hey, welcome back, everybody. 4:06 and theresa may has warned rishi sunak against tearing up modern slavery laws in an effort to stem the number of illegal entering the uk. so may told rishi soon the reforms of legislation which she oversaw in the home office. modern laws claiming it could create other problems . claiming it could create other problems. speaking on radio four's today programme . she said four's today programme. she said the government must safeguard world leading protections victims of modern slavery. now

it comes with the news . a total it comes with the news. a total of 90 migrants arrived on british shores boats on christmas day. joining me now is political patrick 0 flynn. patrick, great to have you on. first things first should theresa may pipe down. she's free to make her points, isn't she? but the thing to remember about theresa may is was prime minister of the united kingdom for almost three years and has no positive legacy whatsoever. she was the sort of you had one job prime minister , which was to job prime minister, which was to get us out of the european union. and she failed. so obviously that's a massive challenge to her vanity. so she falls back on these sort of phantom achievements that she thinks she achieved when she was home secretary. it used to be one thing she was terribly proud of was it harder for the police to do stop and searches, which she thought, advance racial justice since her meddling on that one many more young black

youths have been stabbed to death . our big cities. and i see death. our big cities. and i see the modern act as as another example of this it's do gooding liberal legislation that in fact gives people who've come to britain and may be being being caught at a low level of drug smuggling operation or things like that. it gives a massive opportunities to say, i'm the victim here, i'm a model slave. i came here under duress. victim here, i'm a model slave. i came here under duress . and it i came here under duress. and it also, ironically gives people who say they were here against their will, massive opportunities to say, therefore must be allowed to stay here. so think she's massively . she think she's massively. she thinks it's a big achievement of hers most by folks is white. well on this you may have you may have heard of don't know rent a car is joining me throughout the course the show was decided to get 30. i write about this that can be genuinely and literally putting and you literally putting everyone in the same boat they're literally and she's she

at these laws to protect victims of the sex trade and there's genuine calls for that and you just wipe it all away saying actually no such thing it's week . i'm not saying there's no thing and obviously sexual exploitation of women is something that's real and they deserve some protections . i'm deserve some protections. i'm far from convinced that the modern slavery act, you know, adds much value for genuine victims . but what i am focussed victims. but what i am focussed on is the british people who are the victims , illegal immigration the victims, illegal immigration which is competing welfare resources, which british taxpayers are paying for , which taxpayers are paying for, which should go to more deserving cases. we have veterans sleeping on the our accommodation . social on the our accommodation. social accommodation is massive . leigh accommodation is massive. leigh i've pressured and i just don't see that that theresa may's bit of legislation which has been widely abused which is why rishi sunakis

widely abused which is why rishi sunak is looking at reforming it as a way of people united kingdom. i don't think it's worth defending or perhaps just to move things on slightly. another issue that kind of reared head today, i think it was the daily mail that broke this, which was about where some of these boats are coming from or how getting from a european country shores of calais country to the shores of calais andifs country to the shores of calais and it's apparently germany mostly from germany therefore getting into calais. i mean, do you think it's an exaggeration to say that now we are being deliberately targeted by european friends? i mean , they european friends? i mean, they are doing absolutely nothing to stop these boats being manufactured transported to the beaches all people put on and pushed out on to say and they're not that problem . yeah, i do not that problem. yeah, i do think it's a bit of an exaggerate action to say that the heads of government of the big european countries are doing to us actually deliver , to us actually deliver, brittany, and with the schengen agreement that's that's all of land routes to get boats to

northern france. right. but what i do also say is the france clearly doesn't want real to stop the illegal boats from setting out because if it wanted to stop it could do it tomorrow and yeah, but that's why we're really stupid to be paying them a load of money to do nothing with it only. and it's like the kind of chocolate gold approach where comes up and where rishi sunak comes up and goes, oh, i've got this great idea. we're put a few idea. we're going put a few border officers in french border force officers in french border force officers in french border force officers in french border force can them not border force so we can them not stopping migrants crossing stopping the migrants crossing channel. on top of that, channel. oh, on top of that, we're put more we're going to put some more border force when border force officers when they're that is into they're not strike that is into an airport in albania because there's that well there's way that these well oiled albanian human trafficking and some of the world's wealthiest criminals and the most shrewd operators and violent operators will find a way around father there's way around the father there's three overweight border guards in tirana probably in tirana airport probably smoking while they're looking at a computer or someone walking through. are a of a through. i mean we are a of a joke and we know yeah, there's a of window dressing going on to

try and assuage voters so i think by now too cynical to fall for it. the key thing about is if france accepted britain's request to take back my that have been stopped made channel then the channel traffic would stop overnight because it wouldn't be worth anyone's while . thousands of pounds to a people smuggler for a place on a boat. right. so they wouldn't have to patrol a single beach. the deterrent effect would be overwhelming . now, the fact that overwhelming. now, the fact that they want accept people back who are by us or picked up by us made channel but go through this window dressing and getting paid all this money will tell you that. all this money will tell you that . in fact, they're not that. in fact, they're not bothered . they're not bothered bothered. they're not bothered about who congregate on the northern shore setting off to get to britain. yes they'll do a few, you know, for camera busts and puncturing. the thing is but you know there's the 70 to 100 miles of coastline they're not going to rigorously patrol no matter how much we pay . i think

matter how much we pay. i think it's pretty fair to say that if i went to a beach in calais with a sign around my neck that says just squeeze in illegal immigrants and waved as i walked past the gendarme and just sets into channel. absolutely into the channel. absolutely nothing me. and nothing would happen to me. and we, british taxpayer, have we, the british taxpayer, have paid the privilege of . paid for the privilege of. nothing patrick there nothing to happen. patrick there are and is an answer are people and this is an answer that i think a lot of people don't answer to honestly, which would say well, actually do you really care about people's human rights in terms of once they're in the channel is all would the ultimate deterrent in a shorter term actually be to just leave them there what you mean to push them there what you mean to push them back rather than them ashore or just. yeah, or just to do nothing with them? just say we can't we cannot everyone's on strike. we cannot actually as unpalatable as this is, we cannot come and get you. would that be the ultimate deterrent now? but i think most of the

dinghies would still make it across. and there also a duty on kind of all seafarers to rescue people are at sea and in trouble which is why i think the idea of on these rubber dinghies in the world's busiest shipping lane is not run off because what do you do when you start pushing a vessel back three or four of the occupants fall the channel you pick , they're not like you. yeah pick, they're not like you. yeah exactly. patrick, thank you. very, very much. patrick flynn. then, now narinderjoins me throughout the course. the show on after deliberately provocative question then india because i've got to make you oh my oh you do know that we my god. oh you do know that we part of a treaty that we're meant to look human beings come to us and they need help desperately this whole immigration patrick and all of them need help . everyone's anger them need help. everyone's anger seems to be very misdirected. you go on about these port 3000 we had to 2000 come from the ukraine, 120,000 come from hong

kong. and you're talking about the petty little 40,000 who need our help coming in this money. piddly is it is six, 7 million quid a day. that's just for the. what about the tory government who wasted billions and millions on the ppe, the truck and takes you tongs don't make a you keep tongs don't make a right yet but this is this supposed to be helping people they are down to give me they are coming down to give me they are coming down to give me the star hotels whether that's because you're not processing quicker we've got caseworkers who all processing they're not experienced we need to just process it quicker but we need immigrants. do you not think need it? we've a lot of need it? we've got a lot of immigrants. we are net immigrants. we are a net migration around 500,000. migration of around 500,000. we've less we've got, which is far less than rest of the. but than the rest of the. but immigration just uk immigration isn't just a uk problem, it's a worldwide problem, it's a worldwide problem . and it needs problem. and it needs it needs it needs a law that's progressive for the whole world, not uk law. you think in this time absolute economic need. and we talk a lot about it right now the amount of people who won't be hating the amount be put in hating on the amount of who are absolutely of people who are absolutely i mean butter has got security

tags on and supermarkets, tags on it and supermarkets, goodness and yet this goodness sake. and yet in this country find absolute dollars country we find absolute dollars wheelbarrows cash that wheelbarrows full of cash that we can give to people. we've got . like the ukraine. . not ukraine like the ukraine. no the way. yeah we're giving no by the way. yeah we're giving more money that why ? so why give more money that why? so why give it why also talk about that it just how so obviously the topic we're talking about right now is what's going on in the channel and immigrants work why are you them sit there for six months in a hotel, let them work because there's there. not there's no tribute is there. not a they like it a risk that they would like it and a life of crime. but is and go a life of crime. but is this a bit of a misnomer. and the every single person who wants come over here wants to come over here is desperate just the desperate to just spend the minimum time possible in a four star they and star hotel before they go and forge life for themselves in forge a life for themselves in slough. i think but it's not slough. so i think but it's not a myth that they come over here to criminals. that's myth. to be criminals. that's a myth. well there's no according to the ncaa, huge amount of ncaa, there's huge amount of people involved people who do get involved working. they want to work. they can contribute the jobs the can contribute to the jobs the british won't do. we've british people won't do. we've got shortage of 2 million. got a job shortage of 2 million. let immigrants . my parents

let the immigrants. my parents came to get our parents can know what route did your parents take to get here? but okay. then they took a legal route . but they took a legal route. but they write their own. any legal routes. patrick, are you there? is that there is. there are there is. this is a misconception right there are plain it to me that the immigration system if you're lying about claiming asylum then there are no real proper . well, there are no real proper. well, there are no real proper. well, there are no real proper. well, there are you know the lottery not lying. well a lot of people lot of people coming from a safe in albania their asylum gets rejected then they were allowed to be even gang as they are. they are also victim to that. they are also victim to that. they have families here. we can't i think we need immigration it's a good thing if you're putting on and look this is all good stuff i that but if we are being completely honest do you just think that we should live in world where anyone who live in a world where anyone who wants should wants to live anywhere should just to do that just be allowed to do that because that's yes that's because if that's yes that's fine. just honest about fine. but just be honest about that. that. yes, because my that. i do that. yes, because my parents immigrants and parents came as immigrants and they and we worked

they worked hard and we worked everything. we paid all our taxes. well, that's great. right. there's plenty right. so and there's plenty people are like do people who are like that. we do need that. do think that need that. i do think that should that's what should be? i think that's what we people. okay. and that's we need people. okay. and that's because point and because a really cool point and i'm chats because i'm enjoying all chats because that really cool point that is a really cool point right. is if you are right. which is that if you are ideologically overview you, why don't you have that view? why do you think that should you not think that they should be movement of people be freedom of movement of people just should more just think there should be more control. are control. i think there are massive national security elements to it. that i think elements to it. i that i think that it can be unfair to people who maybe already lived who have maybe already lived worked who have maybe already lived workeylives, paid it taxes. entire lives, paid it taxes. yes. there's shortage, yes. if there's a shortage, housing, care, etc. i housing, health care, etc. i do think a self—inflicted think that's a self—inflicted problem. i do get that also. now hear me out on this. i really genuinely do believe an genuinely do believe to an extent, as, extent, not in the same way as, you know, some really far out that people of the preservation of culture having of national culture and having a national believe that about national i believe that about the i believe about the french i believe that about the french i believe that about the believe that. but the spanish i believe that. but why the national culture why do it? the national culture and gone. i'm and identity is gone. i'm british. don't think it's british. i don't think it's gone. you i get gone. i think, you know, i get accused being too british. i accused of being too british. i get accused of not being i live

in this country. so i take both sides as lots of british indians do. i don't it's got much do. i don't think it's got much concern would be that you concern would be that if you have and utter have a complete and utter breakdown so there's breakdown of it. so there's just of from over the of people from all over the world as fabulous as the certain elements of that if you elements of that are. if you completely break that down, then what really? is it what have you got really? is it just plot of with a load just a plot of land with a load of it. but what's wrong of people it. but what's wrong with just a plot of with that we all just a plot of land not britain just a plot land not britain is just a plot of i think old enough when of land. i think old enough when you more that can't stand you go more that we can't stand in our country and say, oh, you're not allowed. you on land, this our country. we are just this is our country. we are just the of land. oh the bit of land. oh controversial, the point controversial, oh was the point of it? think. oh, of fighting for it? i think. oh, okay. right. i'm enjoying okay. right. well i'm enjoying these back and forth. i hope you arrive. anyway, there's more coming couple of coming in the next couple of hours. let's see hours. yeah. oh, now let's see if you've been getting in touch on inbox, views of gb on the inbox, tv views of gb news uk your thoughts on news dot uk your thoughts on this bryan says this migrant crisis. bryan says why the uk allow illegal why does the uk allow illegal migrants to claim legal aid so they can tie that case up in court? deportation? well i get what you're saying. they're up city, but there are quite

literally legal reasons for that. it'sjust literally legal reasons for that. it's just in case there are human rights charges , etc. are human rights charges, etc. but get the point. you tried but i get the point. you tried to elizabeth says to make and elizabeth says saying students are a cost benefit to the countries on untrue as untrue as saying that immigrants a cost benefit to the country . foreign students are of country. foreign students are of to greedy globalist universities and immigrants of benefit to greedy cost cutting employers. now is elizabeth around a broad brush approach to the issues of students immigration? i do obviously you take your point , obviously you take your point, though, which is that there can be a saturation of the labour market, especially the lower end of the labour that can drive down i do understand down wages, etc. i do understand the that you making, the point that you were making, and understand the and i also do understand the point look at somewhat point that do look at somewhat balance the time from balance a lot of the time from the middle east or, china and just here, a cash rate. but they wouldn't run if they wouldn't be able to run if they didn't have the money from foreign money. no foreign money. we'd have no education. the other point is, should fewer university should we have fewer university and a more people doing and get a load more people doing things apprentice things like apprentice and practical we need practical trades because we need more we david

more that than we do. david beckham's of the of beckham's studies of the of staffordshire win staffordshire i can't win with you. not winning here, but you. we're not winning here, but i'm enjoying it anyway. right. thanks going to thanks very much. we're going to get very obvious analyses get some very obvious analyses of top topics, the other course of top topics, the other course of show coming up, these of the show coming up, these strikes, end as strikes, will they ever end as another topic? agree another topic? we do agree as well as train what's well as train strikes. what's new bus drivers in huge swathes of london, they're off today. surely nothing to with it surely nothing to do with it being christmas being the christmas period? absolutely amount absolutely not. but the amount of some of people here who took some time the england game time off of the england game anyway, travel legend simon coulter me. coulter will be here with me. that your way next. stay that is all your way next. stay tuned .

welcome back, everybody. now, today was supposed to mark the start of a brief respite from the national strikes. instead, though, thousands passengers were stranded at gatwick were left stranded at gatwick airport this after airport for hours this after rail links were disrupted due to

a signal the public is being warned to expect. yet more travel chaos since the new year with industrial by rail staff poised to continue. in fact , poised to continue. in fact, i've just been hearing in the break that it is a nightmare pretty much right across the place because there's a knock on effects of the knock on effects of these drives. but yes, brits up and down the country, they are their christmas travel plans disrupted by strikes over festive period. can't think of festive period. i can't think of no man to discuss this no better man to discuss this than the independent's travel everybody's favourite travel guru the thinking woman's crumpet is simon calder simon you've had an absolute shock get in there, haven't you? well, no, i just spent more of my life than i cared to touch paddington station close to gb news towers. i'm talking to passengers who are cheesed off to the nth degree . so let's start on the degree. so let's start on the gatwick thing, actually, because i've the important because yesterday i was at victoria coach station . yeah i now i do

coach station. yeah i now i do enjoy myself at christmas all you do and things were working really if anybody wants an really well. if anybody wants an example of how to run a good transport operation just go to victor coach station, great staff running normally. yeah crowded , loads of people but crowded, loads of people but everyone gets where they need be. unlike the so the one place you couldn't get a bus to was the airports because . so many the airports because. so many people wanted to go that because no trains this is the only place that this happens other countries. but why why is because we weren't supposed to because we weren't supposed to be having strikes this was supposed to be day of freedom supposed to be a day of freedom we would have had only very limited of trains limited number of trains yesterday anyway because it's was holiday today . things was bank holiday today. things were supposed to get better, but even finished even though the strike finished at gatwick , things were at six at gatwick, things were not going to change until later on in the this was the case quite a lot places. but then when the finally were about to start running, when the finally were about to start running , there was a start running, there was a signal failure. and so everything went wrong and the cynic in me simon, would this is

a bit deliberate no it's just a usual there are always signal problems and the rail engineer reunion this time engineering works are designed to fix things like signal problems . but the like signal problems. but the trouble is the rail you knew in the rmt the reason it went on strike for four days finishing this morning was try to scupper rail engineering works because they wanted to have a go and did it work? well, it certainly scuppered tens, possibly hundreds of thousands journeys. but the railway now , just just but the railway now, just just hear me out on the summit. yeah i finally decided that i to walk onto a train line and know they cut the cables or sabotage it to stop it working would be arrested for a criminal offence . but isn't that kind what some of the unions are doing ? oh no, of the unions are doing? oh no, they are exercising their right to withdraw their labour. patrick and i absolutely support them on that. i think they're in them on that. i think they're in the same time wrecking the railway . yeah, because i think railway. yeah, because i think that they believe because that's what they're very good leaders

mick lynch they empty in particular have have persuaded us you know that they before i bnngin us you know that they before i bring in a render on this one, then what do they actually want, what you know, give me the figures on what they actually okay, they really are looking for what they've been offered at network rail 5% plus 4. they gave it to their members and we recommend you reject this and they did. i think if it was more like 6% of 5. that would be something they could work with. but what they're particularly concerned about is the exit ordinarily complex network of rules which date back some of them to victorian . they don't them to victorian. they don't want those over ten unless they're going to get an extra percentage for modernisation . percentage for modernisation. and that's really the sticking point and. i can absolutely see their point you're a strong union, you do what ? you can. but union, you do what? you can. but i think pushing their luck far i'll be happening i absolutely get that it's the job of the unions to do that and they're

doing very well there's no doubt about that now. well, within the rights to it, it's just a question of. what do we do now and what point do they do? do and at what point do they do? do they they on enriching? i was they do they on enriching? i was going well, no, think they going well, no, i think they need be paid. they want to be need to be paid. they want to be paid they're what paid because they're what is it not all with working not all to do with working conditions and not have staff on train as a woman on in the evenings there's never anyone on the i'm you got the train. i'm scared you got drunks the train. there's no drunks on the train. there's no one can report it one there that i can report it to. you leave patrick this, to. you leave patrick of this, so. oh no. look, i absolutely 100% sympathise, which why i'm so appalled at what the union is trying to concoct with its opposition to so called driver only operation. yes driver only operation in the term they used to describe the driver opening and closing the doors and we're actually meant as nobody else around that would be really scary i would be completely against the all it is doing saying we use we've got cars at the moment we're going to make them more purpose train managers and they won't be opening and

closing the doors. that's when they'll there. no, they'll still be there. no, there be that many. it's all there be that many. and it's all about about about profits. it's not about actually looking after employees. well, then look what's mick lynch going on about then ? he's about his work, then? he's going about his work, not much. my point down now that they're the profit that is taken out is by the companies which are on a two or 3% margin and they're making a lot of profit and they can increase our ticket price. no government's doing that. the government controlling all of this really on helping then they need to force out and they need to be just like, yeah, of course we probably do. with four days more strikes, we are in hell trying to get five, five guys, but it'll be six by the end of this show. that's going to carry on and run behind, say, okay, so look, just to praise, your overarching point is, pay them pay exactly what them more, pay them exactly what they so yes, they want. exactly. so yes, which includes as well. top which includes as well. on top of that, jobs pretty much as is as far as i can tell. simon is that affordable in your view in life because of the other have

accepted stuff even that well look the rail union believes there is a magic money tree and all they got to do is keep striking, give you a few more shakes and will get. and is there a magic money? well, no, because the rail finances are an absolute for free a. why is that? because after they lost 20% of passengers, 29% of revenue. okay, all of that's being made up by the taxpayer the taxpayer might get a little bit cheesed . so you want to pay bit cheesed. so you want to pay right. you run a business to render your husband run a business or you want a business, whatever business you go right? and absolutely and you were absolutely haemorrhaging money you were haemorrhaging money and you were haemorrhaging money and you were haemorrhaging money and you were haemorrhaging money and customers weren't through customers weren't coming through the member of the door and your member of staff up you i want staff came up to you and i want this rise and i want to make this pay rise and i want to make sure you don't stop me. for sure that you don't stop me. for three you would left three years you would left little bit of hard thinking actually they are struggling with you of with that before you sort of live in class. no, i would try and retain as well as i can because i wouldn't want to just throw out on the street throw them out on the street ehhen throw them out on the street either. years of either. after all the years of service, in me and that's

service, be in me and that's fine. but you actually wouldn't be give them be able to afford. give them what? think that was what? well, i think that if was still been able to run a business there's money coming in from y you yourself. well from y you back yourself. well it be totally because it wouldn't be totally because then profits she then they can profits then she didn't haemorrhaging on profits . well okay so on that then . well yeah okay so on that then the this greedy kibali fat cat railway owners they could be right oh no no no . oh well right oh no no no. oh well that's certainly isn't it. you're absolutely right. but everything that happened during covid the government just said, okay, you're all going to lose your shirts and we're going to take all the risk back. we're going to give you a percentage, maybe 3% running this for us maybe 3% for running this for us . that's you do. we set all . that's all you do. we set all the fares, we arrange all the schedule. we're out of covid now things will start getting back to normal . they're going to to normal. they're going to start picking . surely they're start picking. surely they're getting worse day. this is a strike. it gets honestly. so go today. i'm talking to him. he's he booked a train from norwich to get to scotland to see his

family . the first train was family. the first train was cancelled , journey completely cancelled, journey completely scuppered he's now driving this is behaviour change. if more and more people she can't be bothered you your train ticket is about as much use as a lottery ticket then they won't do that. they will still use that train. people use it . they that train. people use it. they won't actually really stop you and just start asking you. travel questions all the time. no, most of the time they think i work at railway stations. i know. i give you the phone. yes. oh, both of thank you very much. i'm going to tell how much you enjoying so. well, enjoying this show so. well, it's lively. it's lively. thank you. great to have you back on the always. fact, the show, as always. fact, you're here. you might you're always here. you might as well bet we can share well just bet in. we can share a cabinet later in this show for that and the lovely number in the car. you'll with me the the car. you'll be with me the course this you are me course of this show. you are me chris on gb news us. we will have the latest from states where snow storms have the lives of at least 60 people. could this same weather front be heading uk and? heading to the uk and? recruitment agents have been accused of charging our health

service. hundreds millions of pounds find temporary staff. pounds to find temporary staff. i think is actually an area that i think is actually an area that i agree remarkably . how will the i agree remarkably. how will the press with narinder? because clearly, clearly if we are spending the best part of a billion quid on these occasions , stop then yeah, we copy , pay , stop then yeah, we copy, pay the nurses and paramedics, etc. more because it is a false economy. not to do that. but like all of these things, israel as simple as that. or would it be more money like things like health care, etc. anyway, about all of this much, much later on after these headlines . 4:34 after of these headlines. 4:34 on radisson in the gb newsroom, the death toll has risen to at least 60 people as winter storms continue . hammer the us and continue. hammer the us and canada , the freezing canada, the freezing temperatures and blizzard condition have left many areas under than four feet of snow . under than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo in new york state has been hit the hardest, with 27 fatalities. many people freezing death in their cars.

president joe biden has declared a federal . mark somma , a a federal. mark somma, a journalist with buffalo news . he journalist with buffalo news. he told patrick people were warned not to use the roads or as a travel ban instituted immediately on friday morning. but it didn't stop lot of people from getting in their cars . from getting in their cars. maybe they wanted to rush to relatives houses for christmas. maybe they wanted to get supplies. at the last minute. whatever the case may be , a lot whatever the case may be, a lot of people were out of their homes when they shouldn't have been and some froze to death. it also made it really difficult for search and rescue operations and snowploughs to clear the and for snowploughs to clear the roads because had these scattered, stranded cars all over the place , a 23 year old over the place, a 23 year old man has died being stabbed at a nightclub in on boxing day, west midlands . police say they were midlands. police say they were called to the incident just before midnight. hundreds people were at the crane nightclub at the time. witnesses being urged come forward . meanwhile, come forward. meanwhile, merseyside police are continuing

to question two people in connection with the fatal shooting of 26 year old el edward at a pub on christmas eve . a 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder . a 19 year and attempted murder. a 19 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder . rail suspicion of conspiracy to murder. rail passengers are being told expect significant disruption into new year amid a wave of industrial unrest across the country . there were busy the country. there were busy scenes at london's cross station earlier due to the knock on effects of boxing day strikes. members of the sas, a cross—country staged a 24 hour walkout from 9:00 yesterday as part of a long running dispute over pay and conditions. part of a long running dispute over pay and conditions . we're over pay and conditions. we're on tv online on the 80 plus radio you're watching the people's channel, gb news. don't go people's channel, gb news. don't 9° ' people's channel, gb news. don't go , patrick. we'll be back in go, patrick. we'll be back in just moment .

hey, welcome back, everybody. this show is absolutely throwing. but anyway, middlemen are the nhs. half a billion pounds a year in fees agency staff to provide cover. premium, which is on top of the already higher wages paid to locum doctors and nurses, was revealed by a daily mail audit. doctors and nurses, was revealed by a daily mail audit . so, you by a daily mail audit. so, you know, it's good employees that want agency were rewarded for a profitable year with a free trip to the caribbean. so a spokesman for the recruitment and employment confederation which represents agencies said they kept the nhs on its feet and their margins covered things that helped keep safe. basically when nurses are going on strike , paramedics go on strike. normally as workers go on strike over a lot of pay and they're saying, well, hang on a minute, we're overstretched. when we're being overstretched. when they or when need they go on strike or when need things wards the things covering on the wards the nhs will call agencies and those agencies , by the sounds of it,

agencies, by the sounds of it, for a whopping great big profit at the taxpayers expense. we'll plug at the taxpayers expense. we'll plug gaps. is this right. plug those gaps. is this right. lots unpack. i am joined by lots to unpack. i am joined by dr. lawrence girls who is a gp out same doctor. dr. lawrence thank very much. now i am thank you very much. now i am and been very vocal about and i've been very vocal about this. not favour this. and not in favour whatsoever of anything like a 19% pay rise. and i am . i think 19% pay rise. and i am. i think it is very, very questionable on a moral for a lot of people to go on strike if your job happens go on strike if yourjob happens to be about health care and saving lives. so, you know, i stand on that. however at the same time , if we are splashing same time, if we are splashing what the best part of a billion quid. so some wise guys can run essentially appears to be some kind of agency infused racket where you can go and get health worker for a lot more than that. can't be right. that's all me. does lawrence explain to me what is going on? because looks like utter madness. it is madness. it's a long and you can it's a long issue. and you can blame the agencies if you want . blame the agencies if you want. but i blame the management and the health service. the health service is terrible employer.

service is a terrible employer. and if you speak to doctors junior doctors in particular, course, these are the ones that are being replaced, the agencies. it's not just about money. and junior doctors are underpaid and they should be paid . i've underpaid and they should be paid. i've got underpaid and they should be paid . i've got friend who's paid. i've got a friend who's a year junior doctor. he paid. i've got a friend who's a yearjunior doctor. h e £14 an yearjunior doctor. he £14 an hour as junior adult with people's lives in the so junior doctors are underpaid paid. there's also a shortage of them and that means that agencies are there to fill the gap. look you know patrick i've had emails from various offices , including from various offices, including the people that run our i.t. to say they're closed from december the 23rd to january the third. the health service has thrown 24 hours a day, seven days a week. thatis hours a day, seven days a week. that is hard. stop. it's very hard . it's almost impossible to hard. it's almost impossible to run a hospital and staff it without seeking sort of agency help . yeah, i agree with all of help. yeah, i agree with all of that. but all the leaning all the leaning on or the leaning on them all the time, i'm just

reading from this to middlemen in charge in the half a billion pounds a year. one fat cat got half a million quid in pay, which is not bad work if you can get it. let's be honest, there must which is on top must be premium which is on top of paid to locum of high wages paid to locum doctors nurses. that doctors and nurses. so that is costing double essentially costing us double essentially when it comes to the doctors and nurses. we know paying well nurses. we know that paying well the to sort us out the agencies have to sort us out for the privilege of supplying us these people. that is us with these people. that is a broken . what would if the broken. what would happen if the nhs decided nhs management just said . no, we're just going to said. no, we're just going to try make with what we've got. try to make with what we've got. more people would die, presumably you'd have no staff on the ward . i mean, let me give on the ward. i mean, let me give an example . lot hospital an example. a lot of hospital doctors are offered extra shifts to cover these. got but they're not offered significant extra pay- not offered significant extra pay. and so the management will then go out to an agency and pay a more money to an outside agency . then they will offer agency. then they will offer their own staff to cover those shifts. right there's huge amounts of management, bullying

of staff employed staff in nhs, and that is this is now symptomatic but hung on them and how profit treated. but top stories aren't now. i've gone the full reverse favourite because actually if you take box it's not conclusion, it's this medical staff causing all the problems the nhs because they trained to go for certain job. they realise is they can get better money and possibly hours if they go and join an agency , if they go and join an agency, they go and join an agency and that of our that drunk people out of our mainstream nhs and then they want to sorry for poor want us to feel sorry for poor nurses on the picket line when actually it's the nurses who throw colleagues under throw in that colleagues under the bus. it's been a long problem ever since i was a junior doctor that you could go and earn more for. money an agency. it's not. no has got to gnps agency. it's not. no has got to grips with it. the nhs even has even tried setting its own agency, but that work, this one where there's a shortage you create a market, there is a shortage, you have to have safe levels of staffing. you can't just refuse to have an agency doctor because then you'll have

no doctor, just a ward. it's just finally. i'm sorry. it's just finally. i'm sorry. it's just because i want to rattle through this and get some nannder through this and get some narinder as well on that. if all of those medical staff who are that they're in solidarity with our nurses and they're in solidarity with you, with our ambulance drivers, and they've got a rainbow. we've rainbow flag or whatever they've got in that port and they're very grateful. we went outside and clap if they all clap for them if they all decided to show actual by actually working the nhs and not leaving at the earliest available opportunity to go and clean it and by joining an agency, then our nhs be well, certainly a lot better . agency, then our nhs be well, certainly a lot better. is that right? yes that would work if management had a better system for paying overtime to their employees . they don't have a employees. they don't have a good system . so those same good system. so those same employees can't get the money from the managers so they get it by going to the agency it's bad management . it's not greedy management. it's not greedy doctors or greedy agencies. please believe me on this . yeah,

please believe me on this. yeah, well , i'll please believe me on this. yeah, well, i'll take your word for it. you're. you're working in our system. thank you very much, dr. lawrence curtis. out of same day will bring in now in the call . patrick, you're driving me call. patrick, you're driving me crazy today. you said two things wise guys making money. it's a business. they're meant to be making money. it's not their fault the nhs is broken. the government haven't it? enough money and they're not paid. nurses and doctors. the correct amount take an amount of money that take an advantage. that's fair advantage. yeah, that's fair enough. but you also said. oh well, i really believe well, i don't really believe nurses striking. nurses should be striking. they've obligation. they've got a moral obligation. nurses doctors, moral nurses and doctors, moral obligation. is that family first, their children first and keeping a roof over the head, not the patient patient is their not the patient patient is their not argument of the nurses to see the debate week. it's said do you think not think it's a bit both realistically you could just get another job couldn't you could go show because walked into the job they've trained for years and years to train the pay scale is available online they can have a look at it i could

google it right now if i wanted. it's not enough not enough for the work they do. the amount of it they don't barely get any breaks their moral obligation is not that argument is weak and it's thin with the it's wearing thin with me the moral own home, moral obligation is own home, their their family, their children, their family, their children, their family, their mortgages that payments electricity, their cost of living , the patient comes living, not the patient comes second, the patient comes second. i get the would always think that ultimately my family came but but if i was came first, but but if i was paid say , 30 going to a year as paid say, 30 going to a year as was my partner and we were budgeting correctly , i would budgeting correctly, i would fear budgeting correctly when there's a cost of living crisis is energy crisis. you can't put your cost of living on cost of living crisis . that affects living crisis. that affects everyone. and that children's hospitals worst have walked out. and i think that's rubbish. i mean i think the need to make sure that there was enough stuff on that going back the locums they just agencies they took 20% like any agency would why wouldn't may not think it takes the costs of do you think it the costs of do you not think it takes gloss off the idea takes the gloss off the idea that all these people in the

that all of these people in the medical community they like to do a good in oh we're all do a good turn in oh we're all in this together. i support the nurses there's nurses when in reality there's a loading first loading them at the first opportunity off and join an opportunity go off and join an agency, coin it in more that well why wouldn't you? why wouldn't but shop wouldn't do it but money shop about mean but then about it know i mean but then stop joining picket stop going and joining picket lines saying lines now because they're saying actually if you paid them the right amount, the right amount, then going there. then we wouldn't be going there. but would in but i actually would join in that because that picket line because i wonder whether or not these agencies be made illegal. wonder whether or not these amean,; be made illegal. wonder whether or not these amean, they be made illegal. wonder whether or not these amean, they saide made illegal. wonder whether or not these amean, they saide lotde illegal. wonder whether or not these amean, they saide lot but.legal. i mean, they said a lot but never maybe made them illegal. so everyone has stay in work so everyone has to stay in work in and for the least in our nhs and for the least amount and no no, not amount of money and no no, not just not just medical slaves. yeah would be. that's not yeah it would be. that's not like medical slaves would introduce against people introduce against to stop people making making money. making businesses making money. but public. you want but let's keep public. you want to it both ways there. and to have it both ways there. and do want have it both one do you want to have it both one way you you want a director way you want you want a director of fact agency to earn five of a fact agency to earn five gets a business at the same time is giving nurses a 19% pay last just the start you you know you

can negotiate from 19% and they're still unwilling . well, they're still unwilling. well, they're still unwilling. well, they turned down sat down and, even negotiated anywhere near have a frame of reference in scotland the lower end to the staff there at 11 and a half% and they turn that down. so it does imply anyway. anyway we've got emergency in new york got an emergency in new york have been scrambling to rescue residents from what's been described by authorities as the blizzard . so far blizzard of a century. so far the storms left 27 dead. in new york state. it's taken at least 60 across whole of the 60 lives across the whole of the us president joe us and. yesterday, president joe biden issued federal emergency biden issued a federal emergency for new york now. there's now questions on our side of the pond about whether the weather could be coming over here. okay earlier today, i spoke to mark sommer , a buffalo news reporter sommer, a buffalo news reporter who is right at the heart of the storm. we're actually in the third day of recovery right now. what you're at and what people are seeing on their screen is the whiteout conditions that lasted for about 48 hours. the first thing in two days of the buffalo blizzard , one for the

buffalo blizzard, one for the ages. the governor new york called it you. you had a convergence of whiteout conditions where you couldn't see more than a few feet ahead of you and then you had gusting winds up to 70 miles per hour. you had . 109 centimetres of snow you had. 109 centimetres of snow dropped , all within a very short dropped, all within a very short amount of time. it made it extremely difficult now you see people shovelling , you're on people shovelling, you're on your screen. so in the third day of recovery , there's still a of recovery, there's still a travel in effect for the city of buffalo and in neighbouring . but buffalo and in neighbouring. but the rest of the county is has lifted its travel so there's some some positive developments happening now because it's not snowing winds gone the way that you said it happened very quickly obviously did happen very quickly. and to the absolute extreme as far as we understand it, the death toll currently at around 60 across the whole of the us. one would imagine, mark, and i hate to say this, but that is going to rise lot the snow thaws . people

lot as the snow thaws. people finally go and check on neighbours is the elderly down the road ? i mean in their the road? i mean people in their cars been dying . that's cars have been dying. that's what's been happening . you know, what's been happening. you know, a lot of people have been well, many people , about 12,000 people many people, about 12,000 people are still without electricity of them in city of buffalo, some of them in city of buffalo, some of them since last friday. so that's you know we're now in our fourth day with freezing temperatures . it's hard to know temperatures. it's hard to know what's going inside every home. but there have been people, as you pointed out, found frozen to death in their cars. there was a travel ban instituted immediately and morning, but it didn't stop . a lot of people didn't stop. a lot of people from getting in the cars, maybe they wanted to rush to relatives houses for christmas maybe they wanted to get supplies at the last minute whatever the may be. a lot of people were out of their homes when they shouldn't have been and some froze death. it also made it really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snow ploughs to clear the roads because they had these

scattered stranded cars all over the place now. absolutely. well thankfully, it appears like the worst is over, although there's a mammoth operation. still to come, mark, and i hope that you and your family are all safe that you remain safe, that you look after now really appreciate you taking the time to come on this show just explain the this show and just explain the exactly lived exactly what your lived experiences mark, experiences over that mark, somebody reporter at somebody who's a reporter at buffalo is indeed also in a buffalo news is indeed also in a covered sandra has been back making headlines this christmas he's been filmed offering some slightly older to freezing crowds outside sandringham on how to keep warm. the duke of york told a woman who said that her feet were cold that she should stand on knees. paper if you could all the weirdest thing prince andrew's done anyway . he prince andrew's done anyway. he said that it would help insulate her during the cold is me right now . no her during the cold is me right now. no narinder was take on prince andrew . let's start with prince andrew. let's start with this. this is the latest line, i suppose.i this. this is the latest line, i suppose. i mean, do think you're

going to derive you're doing wrong? that's what i said before the break. that he just couldn't do that from. but having said that i think that i think he was sublimely sane just to stand on the wrong because he doesn't really think he was just really like to think he was just saying some newspapers saying found on some newspapers he's trampling the bride. he's trampling on the bride. well, given him as well, i haven't given him as much harry and much does have given harry and meghan . i am. and you still get meghan. i am. and you still get away with a lot them. that away with a lot than them. that beautiful . get away with . that's beautiful. get away with. that's what i want to discuss with you. why is all the hatred towards them as opposed to prince andrew? prince andrew andrew? why is prince andrew still why is he still making pubuc still why is he still making public appearances? mean, public appearances? i mean, i know just get of him. know we can't just get of him. well, the main well, we can't. one of the main reasons we can't get rid of reasons why we can't get rid of him at all is because he can't denies everything. and he's well paid. quite lot of money paid. quite a lot of money to make sure well , you know, make sure that well, you know, he's never it's not he's he's never it's not that he's been of law. yeah, been proven court of law. yeah, of and we of course. and as again, we don't we don't want live in a country where look i'm sure all got reviews on this one but i don't want live in a country don't want to live in a country where unless some something where unless some if something doesn't be proved

doesn't have to be proved in a court of or anything, you court of law or anything, you are absolutely you never are just absolutely you never work i mean, they have work again. i mean, they have basically completely sideline the mean, he's mean, the guy. i mean, he's i mean, they're off it they're taking his stuff off it because don't do it because because they don't do it because he isn't working. not he isn't working. he's not working. he's not doing it. there's point to him and there's no point to him and you're saying well, of you're saying that. well, of course, he know, he hasn't course, he you know, he hasn't been guilty. it's all been proven guilty. it's all alleged. come on, patrick. alleged. but come on, patrick. suppose if i him. suppose if i didn't if i him. right. | | suppose if i didn't if i him. right. i i don't understand why he still wants to be seen public, but i think that's ego . public, but i think that's ego. and he was the favourite of the queen and i think it's an ego thing and i don't think he's been. and that interview about the not sweating and all of that that terrible. but know that was terrible. but you know what i don't sweat and i kind i was the only person in britain that i was the only person in britain thati can was the only person in britain that i can get that i do there's a part of me that sounds in dread awful i feel sometimes a little bit sorry for him because i think, oh, god, why? because i just like, what's he going to do? there's for do. do? there's nothing for to do. what could really do is the what he could really do is the greatest equaliser fault. his greatest equaliser is fault. his ball. it was the queen's. she spoilt she's both three kids

spoilt she's both a three kids all well apart from an all all did well apart from an all eyes turned out rather well she's turned out really good it was the boys are apparently she over the pole that she's the hard she was hardest working royal next year i actually would quite like queen out no disrespect to king charles don't it wrong and i know that do you think of king's charles speech christmas. i thought it was wonderful thought it was brilliant, otherwise brilliant . brilliant, otherwise brilliant. we've and so we've got 10 seconds. and so we've but we'll talk we've got to go. but we'll talk about a little bit later about this a little bit later because there's a lot to unpack with the royals. joining me, patrick on gb news to patrick christys on gb news to come next hour we will come in the next hour we will debating modern debating migrant crisis, modern slavery how maybe slavery concerns and how maybe we're for a ride of we're being taken for a ride of magnetic. well, we got windy conditions many clouds and outbreaks of rain moving east so wet evening for southwest england . rain and drizzle , gusty england. rain and drizzle, gusty winds too, but mild the time of year attempt to run 11 celsius is the high and outbreaks of rain continuing this evening . rain continuing this evening. much of the southeast of england with some brisk southwest winds.

temperatures around nine celsius. then the rain clearing east across wales this evening, though, taking its to clear for the south and east of wales, staying windy too. and the cloudy end of the day then as we up to the midlands with further spells of rain, there could be heavy at times leading to some tncky heavy at times leading to some tricky travelling conditions, breezy to temperatures around nine celsius. once more there then outbreaks of rain continuing to east this evening across northern england . the across northern england. the rain heavy at times but should be drier. then from the west, the evening goes on, temperatures yes, around nine degrees once more scattered showers following today's rain and snow. then scotland, though we, still got that yellow weather warning in place. the showers falling as snow , showers falling as snow, therefore on higher ground with . icy stretches with temperatures to freezing largely dry and the day for northern ireland. plenty of clear spells just, a few showers possible , just, a few showers possible, staying blustery, though, particularly across the coasts and the hills heading mostly dry in the north, but icy stretches

much more . scotland and rain much more. scotland and rain returning in the .

south oh, welcome back, everybody it's patrick christys here on gb news pop open another bottle of face stuck in top third, helping of turkey leftovers and kick back for another of festive fun and yuletide should theresa yuletide news. should theresa may have waded into the row over issuing a warning about tightening slavery laws, we will debate with a security expert and a human rights lawyer next. it's certainly a very tasty discussion . now we've got the discussion. now we've got the beast from the east, got the troll from trondheim . but what troll from trondheim. but what about the creature from the cult

7 about the creature from the cult ? he's oh, great, america is in a grip of a deadly and could it be heading this way? we will hear the take of whether legend john cantlie , legend and john cantlie, legend and speaking of turkey leftovers. we're also going to be having steve and i absolutely love this guy. i think he's fantastic he's a bit of a steve miller he tells me how as the presenter of families when does the christmas gorging have to start. my take is not yet, but my concern is i will never think that it does anyway. with me throughout the houris anyway. with me throughout the hour is my guest in the car. she will be chewing to all that and much, much more. but it's your latest headlines . the wonderful latest headlines. the wonderful raymond . thanks, patrick. woman raymond. thanks, patrick. woman it past five. here's the latest . the death toll has risen to at least 60 people as winter storms continue to hammer the us and

canada . the freezing canada. the freezing temperatures and blizzard conditions have left many areas more than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo in new york state has been hit the hardest . state has been hit the hardest. 27 fatalities there with many people freezing to death in their cars . president joe biden their cars. president joe biden has declared a federal emergency while summer is a journalist . while summer is a journalist. buffalo news, he told patrick people were warned not to use roads. there was a travel ban instituted immediately on friday morning . it didn't stop a lot of morning. it didn't stop a lot of people from getting in their cars. maybe wanted to rush to relative's houses christmas. maybe they wanted to get suppues maybe they wanted to get supplies at the last minute. whatever the case may be , a lot whatever the case may be, a lot of people were out of their homes when they shouldn't have been in. some froze to death. it also made it really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snowploughs to clear the roads because they these scattered, stranded cars over the place . back here in the uk, the place. back here in the uk, a 23 year old man has died , a 23 year old man has died, after being stabbed at a

nightclub in birmingham on boxing day . west midlands police boxing day. west midlands police say they were called to the incident just before midnight. hundreds of people at the crane nightclub at. the time and witnesses are being urged to come forward . well, meanwhile, come forward. well, meanwhile, merseyside police are continuing to question two people in connection with the fatal shooting of a 26 year old woman on christmas . elle edwards was on christmas. elle edwards was shot at the lighthouse pub in wallasey village while celebrating christmas with friends and family. the 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempt murder. 19 year old woman has been arrested on. suspicion of conspiracy to murder by rail. passengers are being told to significant disruption into the new year amid a wave of unrest across . the country. they were across. the country. they were busy scenes at london's king's cross station earlier due to the knock on effects boxing day strikes. members the tsa at crosscountry staged a 24 hour

walkout yesterday as , part of walkout yesterday as, part of a long running dispute over. pay and conditions. they are particularly concerned about is the extraordinarily complex network of rules which date back some of them to victorian era . some of them to victorian era. they don't want those overturned unless they're going to get an extra percentage for modernisation and really the sticking point . that was travel. sticking point. that was travel. journalist simon calder there on those strikes . the levelling up those strikes. the levelling up secretary says opposition to new housing developments could be reduced by focusing better design. michael gove says too many planning applications are indifferent or insipid and the potential of some public spaces is not being utilised . potential of some public spaces is not being utilised. he is supporting calls from the policy exchange think tank for a new school of urban design and architecture teachers unions have condemned the scottish government's decision to delay the roll out of free school meals to all primary school pupils. it's says the food

programme is vital to tackle child poverty, especially during the cost of living crisis. the introduction of the scheme was due to happen back in august. however scottish government says scotland has the most generous, universal provision of free school lunches in the united kingdom . a yellow weather kingdom. a yellow weather warning remains in place for snow and ice in the north and east of scotland met office saying freezing conditions could last until 10 am. tomorrow. travel disruption is possible as well as showers create patchy ice mainly on higher ground. traffic. scotland is urging motorists to plan ahead . you're motorists to plan ahead. you're watching gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. not let's get back to . let's get back to. patrick welcome . wonderful people. now welcome. wonderful people. now people traffickers work all

yeah people traffickers work all year. they don't take christmas , do they? 90 migrants arrived on british shores on boats on christmas day . more than 45,000 christmas day. more than 45,000 people have now crossed the channelin people have now crossed the channel in small boats this yeah channel in small boats this year. those boats, by the way, becoming increasingly larger. may has also gotten involved in the channel migrant debate. so this is the same theresa may was, our prime minister, saying theresa may was our home secretary. now piped up secretary. she's now piped up and warned rishi sunak against reform . modern slavery reform. modern slavery laws claiming that it would create other problems . these are the other problems. these are the modern slavery laws . if you've modern slavery laws. if you've been living on move with been living on the move with your finger in your ears, which is basically allowing people the moment that they moment anyway to say that they are. the victims of human are. yes, the victims of human trafficking saying or trafficking and then saying or trying rishi sunak trying stay here. rishi sunak does want to try to cut down on that anyway. idea of rolling that anyway. the idea of rolling back legislation has been back such legislation has been touted the government as touted by the government as a way of reducing illegal immigration those it is what immigration and those it is what it's about gaming it's all about really gaming system. former prime minister theresa said that the government must safeguard leading protections for victims of

modern slavery. so there's clearly a couple of different sides to this particular coin. joining me now is some who's communications director for the henry jackson society and up singh banga, who's an immigration lawyer. great stuff, chaps. much for chaps. thank you very much for taking the time for us, especially festive especially over the festive period. start with you period. sam, i'll start with you . just out and . is theresa may just out and out about this? she's being a bit soft . well, it's a it's bit soft. well, it's a it's a really difficult because there are some undoubtably shocking cases out of modern day slavery where people are brought over here really with no choice of their road , forced to work in their road, forced to work in sweatshops . even worse in this sweatshops. even worse in this country . and it's undeniable. country. and it's undeniable. indisputable happens. also, just true is the fact and the reality that many, many , many illegal that many, many, many illegal immigrants who frankly have little to no claim to be in this country, wrong only claim to have this status . and when they have this status. and when they do so , abuse the system, they do so, abuse the system, they also abuse victims by jeopardising its status. the

government have said they , want government have said they, want to look again this it's how it's interpreted i think that's reasonable think it's proportional. i also think theresa may who introduced it is probably very likely that she's to be precious about it. but it's to me clear that it's not working . i suspect she should be working. i suspect she should be a bit precious about her own constituents. what i gather in the maidenhead area. but anyway, her saying bongani an her saying bongani is an immigration who one immigration lawyer who isn't one of the scientists, which is actually in itself, actually current law in itself, is . what need is more is. what we just need is more people to look at it and process and then we'll weed out the people are frankly taking them making channel i think making the channel i think that's a fair assessment we need perhaps a few tweaks to the law but the fact is it's being administered by a system that's broken by an administration that's broken . i mean, every mp that's broken. i mean, every mp here's a select committee report every year for at least the past ten years i've been listening. it is not listened to it. if you listen to it, we're we're told the home office is broken. you expect a broken system to administer rules properly.

expect a broken system to administer rules properly . so administer rules properly. so therefore, although the scheme will in good faith and i where perhaps we need to talk about how much it's done it's how much good it's done it's prevented a lot of people from being enslaved . we hear in being enslaved. we hear in incidents where chinese migrants get trafficked and forced to work on the beaches . right. so work on the beaches. right. so it's help to them . but every it's help to them. but every system to, some extent is abused, whether a benefit system, whether it's nhs or whether it's the immigration system up to the government to make a system to make sure that abuse is stopped and therefore happens is you can't just say, oh, we can't stop the abuse. so we're going to cancel the or we're going to cancel the or we're going to cut the law down. and as said, you know, you and as sam said, you know, you have to take the law out. it's not it's not going to be the right to do. but however, we need treat that to prevent need to treat that to prevent the we've got the abuse happening. we've got to understand tell to understand the gangs tell these migrants that this is the only to stay in the uk. this is what got to do. this is what is being gamed. now i'm going to stick with you because you all have seen immigration lawyer. then something

then i'll go back to something you there about, the you mentioned there about, the tweeting. which bits tweeting. right. so which bits of this current thing should be tweaked the tweaked when it comes to the modern slavery human trafficking stuff? can we tweak? stuff? which bits can we tweak? what? i think the what? well, i think the threshold the moment very threshold at the moment is very low. that if pretty low. so think that if pretty much we've told and much what we've been told and what see in practise if what we see in practise is if claim you're victim of modern slavery, your claim gets looked at differently, you get released into the community while , your into the community while, your claim is decided by a separate unit you're probably given bit more leeway in relation than that you would, instead of an asylum claim, you're not automatically sent back or considered for removal or deportation . so these things deportation. so these things need to be tweaked and these things need to be looked at. you know, there's also evidence is required. we do have to understand someone who's been a slave or of slavery. they're not going to have pieces of paper to prove that fact . and therefore , prove that fact. and therefore, we need to develop a system where it's identified who's telling the truth, who is, and

who gaming the system or the method . entry needs to be looked method. entry needs to be looked at. the way the circumstances in which they claim that being a slave need to be looked at. okay. some some strongly bring you back in now. communications director henry jackson society. i think a lot of people, especially in this current economic climate, concerned economic climate, are concerned government's first priority is not necessarily our own citizens. and the actually a lot of taxpayers money is being spent by us but looking after people who possibly are deliberately taking us for a ride. and do you think that what's happening right now in the channel and therefore which is iraqi's right to at want to change some of these modern slavery laws . yeah look slavery laws. yeah look undoubtedly so anyone coming across the channel is not asylum seeker in any way that a normal person would understand it . person would understand it. they're coming from france which is a perfectly nice, reasonable country . they're coming to the country. they're coming to the uk where they are put up in hotels, often in central where they're very expensive of the reach of ordinary people in

which which point they're given credit or debit cards in order to go and buy their shopping. is exactly the kind of lifestyle many, many people would love to have, don't have . i think it have, don't have. i think it rightly the british public up to see handed out to people who deliberately broken the law to get here . do you think there is get here. do you think there is any chance that this will actually through? because from where i'm sitting at the minute, the government are trying a multi—pronged they're multi—pronged approach they're looking these looking at looking at these modern slavery laws fine okay. in worth look. in isolation worth look. then there's about being in there's talk about them being in communications some kind of communications with some kind of offshore a whopping offshore centre, le. a whopping great cruise ship in the channel. there's talk about channel. then there's talk about a flight to rwanda. there's a flight to rwanda. then there's talk doing things with talk about doing things with students them bringing students to stop them bringing their yes again, their spouses over. yes again, on it like the on paper, it looks like the tories doing something. but i'm sorry, looked they've sorry, it's looked like they've been something about been doing something for about 12 they've not really 12 years and they've not really . out of this, the most . i think out of this, the most realistic ones out of what you've mentioned is the students and, spouse who's coming and, the spouse who's coming over coming study over a student coming to study a master's , technically bring over

master's, technically bring over four people of his family. therefore, you know , increasing therefore, you know, increasing the number of people coming to live here and possibly after the education has finished out of that, that's the more realistic, however looking at trying to cut down the more humane side of things might not the wise, things might not be the wise, wisest to do it. you looking at the numbers and look where people over the channel people come over the channel crossings they need to be tackled we need to start looking at centres maybe where people can. we need to look at the opfion can. we need to look at the option where people can claim asylum whilst sitting in france preventing crossings . so we preventing the crossings. so we need look look at all of this need to look look at all of this in the whole, but the most realistic one patrick which when you be talking about every month next student next year will be a student dependent don't think the dependent one i don't think the rest are to really going rest of them are to really going to make a difference. sending 200 to rwanda not 200 people to rwanda is not going 500 people coming going to deter 500 people coming over no, get over this weekend. no, i get that, especially people are that, especially if people are actually the channel is actually dying in the channel is not massive for. not a massive deterrent for. people are still people i mean, people are still still coming over. some final word to you on this. if remodelling or modern

remodelling reshaping or modern slavery laws does unfortunately mean that some people are worse off as a result. mean that some people are worse off as a result . would you still off as a result. would you still do it if it meant that people in the channel found it less easy to? take us for a ride . tough to? take us for a ride. tough call. i mean, every option is requiring sacrifices that are unfair and unreason about is unfair and unreason about is unfair and unreason about is unfair and unreasonable that british taxpayers are asked to pay british taxpayers are asked to pay for people to get put up in hotels. they have no right to be here. it's unfair that almost old refugee treaty is being risk getting torn up because of the actions of people smugglers. it's all they're all bad choices . but i'm afraid needs to grouse. the matter was the british public are not going to tolerate the same old broken promises for an indefinite penod promises for an indefinite period of time . both of you, period of time. both of you, thank you very much thoroughly enjoyed that. and he had to go and appreciate you both coming on of this festive having a wonderful time anyway so on wonderful time anyway so i'm on those communications director wonderful time anyway so i'm on thothe ommunications director wonderful time anyway so i'm on thothe ommu1societys director

wonderful time anyway so i'm on thothe ommu1society and actor wonderful time anyway so i'm on thothe ommu1society and haj' for the henry society and haj i've seen van gaal as an immigration lawyer. narinder is with she has been with me and she has been thankfully throughout with me and she has been tha|course throughout with me and she has been tha|course this throughout with me and she has been tha|course this showughout with me and she has been tha|course this show you're the course of this show you're in. you you all of that in in. well, you you all of that in what do you make . oh, sam sam if what do you make. oh, sam sam if he's still what he's making on the coming over here and the living this life of luxury like kings palaces. yes. this money they give him. what is it? £10 a week . that to spend a they give him. what is it? £10 a week. that to spend a £14 a week. that to spend a £14 a week. that's struggling. they don't cooped up in don't want to be cooped up in some. not five star some. they're not five star hotels. they're with family. hotels. they're not with family. they're ripped apart, away. everyone oh, no. and everyone they love. oh, no. and stock their process isn't in times on being processed fast enough and they barely have money to survive and he thinks that that's a win situation. that's a terrible situation for them. look who if you look at what might happen in other countries though. so for example presumably in the country they're fleeing from, if we just take it all at face value, they are fleeing an incredibly awful live where their immediate risk appears death. i would appears and death. i would imagine if i come here and got put let alone a four or

put in a let alone a four or five star hotel and not a bit of food, i'd quite happy about that. well, you got to have a bit of food because we have to look seekers. we to. look after seekers. we have to. that's we can't just that's the law. we can't just install people as well. i mean a reason why don't we do what we do in what they do, what do in america what they do, what they they're being they they're came is being processed. i'm allowed to work. let these people work and earn processed. i'm allowed to work. let tkeep.3eople work and earn processed. i'm allowed to work. let tkeep.3eoplz work and earn processed. i'm allowed to work. let tkeep.3eopl do ork and earn processed. i'm allowed to work. let tkeep.3eopl do appreciate'n own keep. no, i do appreciate it's much more tricky for somebody to take dinghy across somebody to take a dinghy across the than it to get the atlantic than it is to get to the channel. however, that said as a country said we clearly as a country offering better package offering a much better package offering a much better package of support for people than any country in europe, despite what the woke brigade, say, because if that wasn't why they all come in here. no, because because we're not letting them work. so you have to look after them whilst they're stuck . and whilst they're being stuck. and that process you've got that claims process you've got to look after them. they look what that centre. what happened at that centre. yeah oh my god. there was diseases wouldn't after. diseases that wouldn't be after. it horrendous. not it was horrendous. that's not correct treat human correct. you can't treat human beings that that are beings like that that are fleeing . but. but fleeing persecution. but. but what sense the want to give

that. oh sorry. another one. so i'm out now. i thought for a second in india you were talking about the disused barracks that they burnt to the ground? no no, they burnt to the ground? no no, the mountain centres. all right. yeah, well, what's going on there? they would be looked. that a disgrace to great that was a disgrace to great britain you know, as britain as you know, as a british citizen, feel british citizen, do you feel proud were like proud they were treated like that? i proud of the way that we're treating these people. i do. because know being do. because we all know being absolutely inundated. and despite being despite fact that we're being told a racist country told that we're a racist country and this idea we're taking and this idea that we're taking record record number, the record after record number, the british, we're taking record british, we're not taking record numbers . british, we're not taking record numbers. it's a move that's and the people from hong carl net migration which i actually a record as well but it's in terms of record numbers of people coming across the channel we're about approach 50,000 about to approach 50,000 migrants year that is a do migrants the year that is a do not that you are creating not think that you are creating of this hate towards look happy create towards immigrants have a comparison they killed the it was it the kurds they shot down three people and look what happened london centre that terrorist that threw that come

on it's whipping pain towards people who are coming who are desperate for their and the committee the help and we are just giving a pain i would jen gently counter that with the fact that i have been to failed asylum seekers who have committed acts of terror in this country. i didn't about the policies drain on the liverpool maternity bomber those are two now that's important from thousands and thousands. now that's important from thousands and thousands . you say thousands and thousands. you say manston is one here. i get what you mean. and look, at the end of the day, two wrongs obviously don't make a right. you don't want to play for tat with terror attacks, to be fair. but my point is, that actually i do point is, so that actually i do think that don't them think that we don't treat them particularly, and i don't think that it particularly, and i don't think thatitis particularly, and i don't think that it is whipping up. hate to say in the middle of cost say that in the middle of a cost of living when people of living crisis, when people are choosing between heating and eating. safe route, eating. but if is no safe route, what suggest they can do? what do you suggest they can do? well, france's problem. well, it's not france's problem. germany's so can germany's problem. so what can we really we do now? that's really interesting that, i interesting point. and that, i think is where we can find some common ground because there common ground because if there were safe routes,

were more genuinely safe routes, for then would for example, then people would not need to take some not feel the need to take some of these journeys at the minute. there's no getting around . if there's no getting around. if you to seek asylum . the uk you want to seek asylum. the uk pretty much right and you're not or the government pretty closed now the taliban have been in that for a while from. afghanistan or ukraine, maybe bits of syria or eritrea. you will want to probably need to come in boat across the channel. now if there's something can be done that, great. however done about that, great. however i would again just counter that by saying a big one by saying and this is a big one really this is one really and this is one unfortunately where there's not a data it this a huge amount of data it this reliable just not reliable is i just do not believe that the vast majority of coming across the of people coming across the channel genuine asylum seekers. well their claims with 75% were genuine and 25. yeah and they were injured so that's the processed ones 75% were genuine. that's a majority . patrick so that's a majority. patrick so you you still , you've still got you you still, you've still got some doubt about that? i do have a lot of doubts about it because, of the way that we operate the law in this country. so you end up with this case where even asylum seekers who

have asylum claim can then have their asylum claim can then claim modern slavery? i am very sceptical about what if it's genuine and all of a sudden we take those rules away. and jane , in a victim of sex exploitation, can claim . yeah, i exploitation, can claim. yeah, i think i just think at the moment it is far too easy to give next to no evidence where you are from who are or what your intentions are or really any evidence of persecution long as you can in this country which you can in this country which you can in this country which you can do, which is just convert to christianity . if you convert to christianity. if you happen to be from a country where christians persecuted and then claim if you were to be sent back to your native, you would face torture , death, that would face torture, death, that is, is a system that is is, that is a system that is being taken for a ride. however, at the same time, i do accept all of your points. we have to move really you very much move on. really you very much really call that who will be joining throughout the show, joining us throughout the show, get views people get your views in people gbviews@gbnews.uk with gbviews@gbnews.uk. you are with me christys gb news me patrick christys on gb news on up. the is in midst on coming up. the us is in midst of snowpocalypse unfortunately of a snowpocalypse unfortunately 60 people have died across the

us snowstorms the us snowstorms throughout the country will cold snap though come to the uk. i've got that from weatherman john catley on about this very very shortly but first let's actually take a look at the weather we're experienced today. at the weather we're experienced today . well, we've got windy today. well, we've got windy conditions many clouds and outbreaks of rain east so wet evening for england rain and drizzle gusty too but mild for the time of year attempt run 11 celsius is the high and outbreaks of rain continuing this evening across much of the southeast of england with some brisk southwesterly winds. temperatures around 90 celsius. then the rain clearing east across wales this evening, though, taking its time to clear for the south and east of wales staying windy, too. and cloudy end of the day then as we head up to the midlands with further spells rain that could be heavy at times, leading to some tricky travelling conditions, breezy to temperatures around nine celsius. once more there then

outbreaks of rain continuing to move east this evening across northern england with the rain heavy at times but should be dner heavy at times but should be drier then from the west as the evening goes on temperatures. yes nine degrees once more scattered showers following today's rain . snow then across today's rain. snow then across scotland , although we still got scotland, although we still got that yellow weather in place, the showers falling as snow. therefore, on the higher with icy stretches with temperatures close to freezing , largely dry close to freezing, largely dry end of the day for northern ireland, plenty of clear spells , just a few showers possible staying blustery there, particularly the coasts and the hills heading overnight, mostly dry in the north, but icy stretches . much more for stretches. much more for scotland and rain returning in the south .

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we're back. emergency crews in new york have been scrambling to rescue residents from what's been described by authorities as the blizzard of the century. so the blizzard of the century. so the storm has left 27 dead. in new york state, it's taken at least 60 lives across the us. and yesterday, joe biden, the president, issued a federal emergency declaration for new york. but in terms us over here, there are now serious questions , our side of the phone about what's coming for us around the corner. rumblings rumours of potentially quite dangerous conditions in the next couple of weeks, although weirdly , the weeks, although weirdly, the weather community appears to be quite weather community appears to be quhe on weather community appears to be quite on this to settle quite divided on this to settle this discussion. joining now is former weatherman where the former bbc weatherman where the legend jon . john, thank you legend is jon. john, thank you very much . what are the chances very much. what are the chances of anything like this happening over in next couple of over here in the next couple of weeks bouma weather weeks whether bouma weather cyclone yes . good evening to cyclone yes. good evening to you, patrick. well we do get weather bombs. that's to say that the pressure of the central system drops by about 25 millibars in 24 hours or so. so that does happen in this

country. but of course the sort of thing that they get in the us is they will always tell us, it's always more extreme than anywhere else to get to baseball sized hail and all this kind of thing. has extremely thing. so it has been extremely serious, extremely weather across a large of the states across in a large of the states in the past week or things are slowly beginning to ease, but it's not unprecedented any means. i mean, they talk about it being once in a generation storm and that may well be absolutely was pretty absolutely. but it was pretty bad in 2004. and even as recently as february last year, 221. so cold and severe weather all the way down into texas on that occasion. well, so they do get it more than we do. do we develop as human beings some kind of weird weather based amnesia because you're absolutely spot i can remember reporting on stuff this a couple of years ago pretty much i'm sure that there was things years i remember when i was as a local reporter and could be the worst floods in a century. well actually turns out weren't as bad as the ones they are two years later. all the ones they

had before that. i'm had two years before that. i'm about no doubt about report in january no doubt about report in january no doubt about shock horror in about conditions shock horror in it's snowing in january what happens us and comes to happens to us and it comes to the weather do we do just the weather do we do we just develop of weird develop some kind of weird fantasy. yes well amnesia is a problem when you get to my age, of course, patrick, but is. of course, patrick, but it is. it absolutely true . and many it is absolutely true. and many people do forget the weather events take place just events that take place just a year or so earlier. i have to write everything down, know? i mean, i haven't got a spreadsheet in of me at the moment saying this happened six, six that happened six years ago. that happened ten years yes have to years ago. but yes i have to write all these events down i write all these events down so i don't them. it is absolutely don't them. but it is absolutely true, do get lot of these true, we do get a lot of these weather taking place and it's not worst in living not usually the worst in living memory. it's something that occurred about and a half occurred about eight and a half years just to the years ago, which just put to the back our minds, i think many back of our minds, i think many of us will remember that severe winter weather had in winter weather we had in december 2010, which was a bit of bolt, the blue out and sea of a bolt, the blue out and sea and sort thing for about and that sort of thing for about 25, years. so that was 25, 30 years. so that was unusual. but the sort of cold weather we've recently weather we've had just recently is going back really to a

typical british winter spell of, well , a very typical british winter spell of, well, a very cold. but of course, it been so mild for most of the year. well exactly. yeah. and on that note, seamlessly, you've let us back on course, which is hearing mixed reviews from . the weather community. the from. the weather community. the weather community appears split on this, john, as to whether or not we're to end up with not we're going to end up with some kind you know, how well some kind of, you know, how well well, business snow in january well, a business snow in january or john, i'll start or not really. john, i'll start to it is it going to to make it it is it going to snow in. well, it's going to snow in. well, it's going to snow tonight. it's going to snow tomorrow in northern scotland. but of course i'd expect that. and why they have and that's why they have a skiing there the skiing up there in the mountains, isn't it. yeah. i'd be disappointed if it be very disappointed if it didn't as didn't snow, but as far as everybody down south is concerned, there's no snow really to talk about in the next three weeks that i can three or four weeks that i can see. but of course, the british is extremely fickle and. that jet that's affected jet stream that's affected the united states the past week united states over the past week or , always across or so is, always swinging across the across into the atlantic, across into northern it does affect northern europe. it does affect . but of course, it's extremely well moderated as it goes across

two or 3000 miles of sea, which is a relatively warm sea even at this of the year. so things this time of the year. so things do change. we will there's no question about it. we will get some weather. we'll some colder weather. we'll get some colder weather. we'll get some even south, in some snow even in the south, in the next three or four or five weeks. at the moment there's weeks. but at the moment there's no sign of anything, anything, nothing like the sort nothing remotely like the sort of that's been in the of thing that's been in the states in the states states right now. in the states i mean, to be fair, this is an absolute shocker in terms of roads. 60 people dead across the us people freezing to death their own cars from what can their own cars from what we can heah their own cars from what we can hear, people being found in snowdrifts is an snowdrifts mean it is an absolute is this kind of absolute shocker is this kind of weather getting more extreme, in your view? more regularity both the hot and the cold? because as you can imagine i've got a lot of people in the as well saying to me, well, does the global warming lot make about this? and i want know the though i don't want to know the though because looks very cold because it looks very, very cold to yeah the climate to me. yeah the climate extremists are very quiet . you extremists are very quiet. you get this sort of spell of weather . absolutely true. weather. absolutely true. there's a hint scepticism in everything . say, patrick, you

everything. say, patrick, you probably realise that . but it is probably realise that. but it is true and it is this amnesia thing. again, we don't hear about this other form of climate change, this other form of , change, this other form of, global warming, that when we get the cold spells. so it's the of thing that i talk about all the time. come on. gb newsroom along with neil oliver live a few days ago and, you know, sometimes we forget we forget that just because we've got this period of global warming, which is absolutely true, it is a period of global warming. it's affecting all of us in different ways. it doesn't that we're ways. but it doesn't that we're just an exponential into just on an exponential into oblivion. we do these peaks and troughs along the way is generally a curve which is going upwards, but extremely slow. that curve , and it's still got that curve, and it's still got little bumps and troughs along the way. so we're still going to get some cold weather. we'll get the flooding, of course we will. it's just happened. it's just always happened. doesn't especially when doesn't it that especially when you in wrong you put houses in the wrong place and we'll get seas crashing over. dawlish warren and that. but we'll and places like that. but we'll still some weather in still get some warm weather in

the get some cold the summer. still get some cold weather and weather in the winter. and i call it british weather . yeah, call it british weather. yeah, john, i would like to see news segment the bbc , but segment back on the bbc, but preferably here in gb news preferably maybe here in gb news just john, at least cynical . i just john, at least cynical. i think that would be fun to say and the british public would absolutely lap it up. john, you're a legend, you're a weather legend. john kelly, the former weatherman there . go former bbc weatherman there. go right. policemen your right. okay. so policemen your way now in the car is still with me. she's going to be me me. she's going to be with me throughout of the throughout the course of the show. we've got about 25 minutes left anyway. it mean on gb left anyway. it would mean on gb news. next. i will be helping news. up next. i will be helping you to beat the blow—out. well helping you. i mean, how? but this is a segment need to help this is a segment i need to help myself over christmas. is myself over christmas. it is common let yourself go as it common to let yourself go as it is for me, and also when spring on in summer, particularly with those lying around. those leftovers lying around. what's date what's the cut—off date transition from slopping out and gorging on sweets to resume your normal diet? i will speak to the former house of family season and say, listen, this guy is, a favourite of mine he says it is

miller and he is on next don't you dare move . 5:32. you dare move. 5:32. i'm radisson in the gb newsroom at least 60 people have died and tens of thousands of residents have been without power as winter storms continue to the us and canada freezing temperatures and canada freezing temperatures and blizzard conditions have left many areas under more than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo in new york state been hit the hardest with 27 fatalities. many people freezing to death in their cars . to death in their cars. president joe biden has declared a federal emergency marks . president joe biden has declared a federal emergency marks. somma is a journalist with buffalo . he is a journalist with buffalo. he told us people were warned not told us people were warned not to use the roads. told us people were warned not to use the roads . there told us people were warned not to use the roads. there is a travel ban institute. it immediately on friday morning but it didn't stop lot of people from getting in the cars maybe they wanted to rush to relative houses for christmas maybe they wanted to get supplies of the last minute, whatever the case

may be . a lot of people were out may be. a lot of people were out of their homes when they shouldn't have been and some froze to death. it made it really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snow ploughs to clear the roads because they had these scattered strand in cars all over the place . well, back here, a 23 place. well, back here, a 23 year old man has died after stabbed at a nightclub in birmingham on boxing day, west midlands. police say they were called to the incident just before midnight. hundreds of were the crane nightclub . the were at the crane nightclub. the time witnesses are being urged to come forward . police are to come forward. police are continuing to question two people in connection with the fatal shooting of 26 year old elle edwards at a pub on christmas eve. the 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. a 19 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy . murder suspicion of conspiracy. murder rail, passengers being told to expect significant disruption into the new year . expect significant disruption into the new year. a expect significant disruption into the new year . a wave of

into the new year. a wave of industrial unrest across the country. they were busy at london's king's cross station earlier due to the knock on effects . boxing day strikes . effects. boxing day strikes. members of the tsa cross country have been staging 24 hour walkout since 9:00 last night as part of a long running dispute over pay and conditions. part of a long running dispute over pay and conditions . we over pay and conditions. we we're on tv online and on dab plus radio. you're watching people's channel gb news patrick. we'll be back in a moment .

leftover turkey and mince pies christmas pudding for days. leftover turkey and mince pies christmas pudding for days . all christmas pudding for days. all of those other sweet treats and festive tidbits. christmas is not a time for restraint . when not a time for restraint. when is it time to stop the gorging and back on the exercise diet treadmill. joining me now is

someone who isn't afraid to speak his mind about food and fitness. he is a national treasure? is steve, the former presenter of families. steve i have had a big christmas and i am regretting now. when do i need to stop eating ? stay. need to stop eating? stay. listen, there are two types of year when all there are two times of year. when we oldies one hell of a good stuffing and thatis one hell of a good stuffing and that is christmas and that is holidays . and what i say to holidays. and what i say to people, it's one of my posh friends twitter today david old lloyd bolte. in fact, i would say name is said to me tweeted back the feast of christmas last 12 days until epiphany on january the sixth. and he's absolutely right . we've also had absolutely right. we've also had two miserable years at christmas because of code this and covid that. and i say to people carry on eating carry on drinking carry on, be merry and maybe put

your muscle on on maybe january the second, january, the third. let's not have this restriction. yes. okay. so you be honest mate. that's very sensible advice . better advice than you advice. better advice than you get for a lot of condolences. but there you go . so when it but there you go. so when it comes to actually putting the muzzle on little bit and showing a bit of restraint what would you recommend for people? because you are actually quite rational when comes to this rational when it comes to this stuff. know, essentially stuff. you know, essentially a bit exercise, a bit more. bit less exercise, a bit more. is that right? you well, there is that. but know i'm actually brighter than i look and this is an emotional process right. it is an emotional process. an emotional process right. it is an emotional process . and is an emotional process. and what i would say to people is in the new year, when they pop on the new year, when they pop on the muzzle is to avoid rigidity because rigidity makes you feel like in the straitjacket and you want break out of it. so avoid diets and have an 8020 lifestyle eating 80% of you know healthily and at 20% a bit of what you

fancy managing the portion along the way but the one thing that i would say is well two things. two of the things this is also nounsh two of the things this is also nourish your mind. okay so have stretching goals your you know feed your mind with what you can do in 2023 rather than be bored because when we're bored, guess what we want? we don't do the biscuit in the cup of tea and stuff a doughnut in a gulp right. so that's the other thing. and the other thing would say is one thing we're losing in the uk is a sense of humour. people me, no, what earth people say to me, no, what earth 7 people say to me, no, what earth ? how on earth do you get all these lose much these people lose so much weight? well, things. weight? well, two things. firstly, they do it, but make firstly, they do it, but i make sure use humour because you sure i use humour because you must scientifically motivate. there is evidence base for it, but you will obviously get the shallow lot ever talking about . shallow lot ever talking about. that's all they want to talk aboutis that's all they want to talk about is latest lentil. well is the thing and steve is advice and talking about the psychology of it i guess what you just said there about of a lot of there about a lot of a lot of that. but for some they really

need almost like a hypnosis thing, i think, in a way. do agree. well of course. and yes, i'm going to say that because i an advocate hypnosis. hypnosis is one thing but self motivation is one thing but self motivation is the other. it this on its own does , not work. you've got to does, not work. you've got to the self—motivation from within as well . and what i say to as well. and what i say to people is if they are emotionally eating is to start, stop looking and listening, thinking about what can do to close the emotional gap. so they rely food less for comfort. in 2023, start getting more enthused yourself. start getting more excited about yourself and start telling yourself you'll far too gorgeous to be fat and stop listening to all of these idiots that tell you you . you idiots that tell you you. you should be proud to be on the walk and being big is beautiful. no, it's not. it kills you . so no, it's not. it kills you. so to be honest, i live in a bit of a post—truth at the moment when

it comes . you know, a lot of it comes. you know, a lot of people saying that, you know, it is completely different body to what they are. for example , what they are. for example, being asked every single day , being asked every single day, i'm being asked to accept something. i just see with my eyesis something. i just see with my eyes is not the truth and actually something that i know isn't true is the truth. and i hate to say this because i am no oil painting and have got a body like a dropped lasagne. but when i look at a poster on a big giant billboard right of la , giant billboard right of la, i'll say, oh, you know, a woman is absolutely massive. and i'm being told that those beautiful i've got to be honest with you, steve, it isn't. and we need to just it out for what it is. she's not necessarily ugly, but she's definitely unhealthy. and him i absolutely listen listen to you guys . i have a heart, to you guys. i have a heart, a big i do know body is ugly. i would never call people ugly, but if you're going to start telling me that fatties. beautiful. listen it's just codswallop . it really is. and codswallop. it really is. and we've got to start realising that we've got tell the truth

when it comes being too fat and. we've got to be brave enough to use the word fat and all of that sort of stuff. we have normalised obesity. i've said this to you many times and i you what? we're getting bigger and bigger. to bigger. bigger. we're going to explode . seriously explode. explode. seriously explode. and the reason the nhs is struggling, mass is because human beings, guess what we're doing ? we're staying in the sofa doing? we're staying in the sofa with our backsides too much. that's what we're doing rather than getting out there and eating more fresh air to start eating more fresh air to start eating more fresh air to start eating more fresh air on january the third as well. let's see. well, i'm saying this with my eyes wide right now to be wide open i look in the open the way i look in the mirror as you mirror at the minute as you would fit me in. but i mean would have fit me in. but i mean it is i have got to crack on in january i decided i was i was going to cut on the booze and i basically use that as an excuse to eat what want. and actually to eat what i want. and actually there's only so i can use there's only so long i can use that an excuse to actually that as an excuse to actually i can anger a minute. no you've can anger in a minute. no you've lost weight. i can see it. i can see look about the look. see it. you look about the look. i'm looking very much. you're

looking handsome and this is what when we lose weight, i mean, look at me like i used to be. listen to things you probably didn't know. this i used be really fat myself used to be really fat myself and. i binge eating and. i had binge eating disorder, i used it as an disorder, and i used it as an excuse all the time. you know, i've things. i've got an eating disorder. don't to me about disorder. don't talk to me about eating all load of eating well, it's all a load of old cobblers, by the way. and then get to grips it. then i have to get to grips it. but yes, we have. to ditch but yes, we do have. to ditch these excuses. yes, it can be a chore. it's a challenge. it is challenge cause it's a challenge. but it's challenge of the a challenge the mind and it's a challenge of the mind and it's a challenge of the mind. that can be one. and the mind. that can be one. and the now is you the trouble we've got now is you get called experts just get so called experts just telling all doom and telling us all the doom and gloom about difficult it is gloom about how difficult it is all time. let's start saying all the time. let's start saying to it's easy. start to the nation, it's easy. start loving yourself slim, start loving yourself, slim, start laughing , slim, start laughing yourself, slim, start telling yourself to go just telling yourself you to go just to be fat and all of those sort of things, let's get some excitement about being slim because all hearing at the because all i'm hearing at the moment excitement about being moment is excitement about being a . steve, thank very much. a fatty. steve, thank very much. and i think i might be employing

your services in a capacity some point. so because it sounds to me like you've got the answers and i love it. i would love maybe we could document my progress lock up on television. no, steve, thank much. no, steve, thank you very much. miller, former presenter of miller, the former presenter of families who families now, brenda, who is with in studio right . and with me in the studio right. and i patrick, just i think i wonder, patrick, just i think you can't shock me any more. you shock me. i read the shocking oh, we made some what we all think. oh my point man oh man. okay but they're not repulsive they can be some people find that something some people find it . i didn't say they were it. i didn't say they were repulsive . i said they're repulsive. i said they're unhealthy . yeah, i'm currently unhealthy. yeah, i'm currently i'm biased . you're cute. i don't i'm biased. you're cute. i don't know why . don't think you look know why. don't think you look extreme. i agree but my god can steve talk. i thought i could talk a lot i do agree with stephen. i don't think we should wait until january the six. look, i to be a cab girl. yeah, i to be a and look, i to be a cab girl. yeah, ito be a and probably in a still a little bit curvy but that's because i've got boobs in a bum. and when you get to my age it's so hard to lose the

weight shuttle lose weight shuttle how you lose weight shuttle how you lose weight anyone want to you've weight for anyone want to you've got to eat less and more. that's it. it is nice. you got to it. and it is nice. you got to have little bit of hunger. you have a little bit of hunger. you can't full . that's can't always be full. that's what creates the fat. got to what creates the fat. you got to be hungry sometimes and you've got to move more people. are so lazy like steve said, get up off the go for run. go for the sofa. go for a run. go for a walk. yeah i mean, my job involves me sitting . yeah, we've involves me sitting. yeah, we've been stopped. yeah and. and you've to mince pies. been stopped. yeah and. and you've to mince pies . you you've been to mince pies. you didn't to. you had no self didn't have to. you had no self constraint. no, no. and constraint. no, no, no. and i did. i did. and i haven't touched a morsel have i feel like i'm getting told off a fox. i fell off strip with a cigarette . is the door actually cigarette. is the door actually right now is being closed. the energy companies hoarding nearly £2 billion of customers cash dunng £2 billion of customers cash during the cost of living crisis. an investigation by the telegraph found that gas and electricity supplies are raising customers debit payments, customers direct debit payments, even when there are thousands of poundsin even when there are thousands of pounds in credit as some energy companies have been accused of. using the money as a cheap

source of finance. whilst many british households struggle to make ends meet, there are no rules preventing companies from using customers cash to keep their businesses running. so last month ofgem said that it thinks allowing suppliers to use some of their customer credit balances for innovation , balances for innovation, operating cash and hedging is the right balance to shed more light on this now is angela knight, who's the former executive of energy uk . angela, executive of energy uk. angela, thank you very much. this looks terrible on paper angela that people are struggling to heat their homes and energy companies are not only holding their money, but using it to invest more and potentially make more money themselves double bad. money themselves is double bad. is it ? well, money themselves is double bad. is it? well, it money themselves is double bad. is it ? well, it doesn't look is it? well, it doesn't look very good . but having read the very good. but having read the article in some detail and of course looked see what ofgem has actually said, look , everything actually said, look, everything is not quite as as bad or bleak as it looks. first of all there are different energy companies doing different things . never doing different things. never put everybody on the same in the

same bucket . secondly, those of same bucket. secondly, those of us like who do have a monthly direct debits so we kind of intend to pay same throughout the year , we'll always have a the year, we'll always have a balance built up as we head into winter because that's what it's all about . build up your all about. build up your balances in the summer and then in the winter you don't get the big bills. that's the way it's supposed to work . however, supposed to work. however, you're absolutely right point out that in some instances it has gone wrong and there's two areas that it's gone wrong. the first is that undoubtedly there is money being asked from people at a time when you have to ask or not. that is correct do does that consumption justify increasing direct debit ? excuse increasing direct debit? excuse me. right and the second thing is, if you have got that balance is, if you have got that balance is it safe. now, some of the companies i've got that money all separated out are all ringfenced. so, you know it's

safe others are using at least part of it but in operating their operations, i'm not i think it's questionable. yes absolutely. i know look, a lot of rightly or wrongly will have looking at this on the telegraph's page today and it is the energy companies hoarding people's anyway i'll just read australia energy companies holding customers billions and there will be thinking when i was on the fence about a windfall before i was on the fence about, it. but my latest bills just i've got no money after christmas . i've just spent after christmas. i've just spent 50 quid a flipping turkey for 50 quid on a flipping turkey for maurice goodness. and this lawyer are hoarding billions of pounds actually. now i am in favour of a windfall tax . yeah, favour of a windfall tax. yeah, well, a windfall to . yeah, well, well, a windfall to. yeah, well, windfall tax is taking anyway, but more of the is taking place of those who are the oil and gas drillers and also been announcement to tax those who generate electricity making a lot of from that because they

are in the main they are the renewable or they are nuclear but i say again let's suppose let's suppose you pay let's give an example £100 a month the direct in the summer you're using 20 or direct in the summer you're using 20 o r £30 a month. that using 20 or £30 a month. that means that when you get to winter you've got that built up so you can use it. the issue here is that some people are getting asked for more money when they don't think that consumption it. and at that point what you do is you get hold of your company say look make this isn't fair let's get sorted out. don't be afraid to give it to me . don't be afraid give it to me. don't be afraid to give it to the energy companies. a it ring up, shop around, do because the end of the day the money's better in your pocket. and is that i suppose andrew, thank you very, very great stuff as ever. very much. great stuff as ever. have a wonderful have you having a wonderful christmas angela knight, christmas period. angela knight, their former executive energy their former executive of energy uk with probably uk newman is with me probably a final on this show during final word on this show during dinner what do you

dinner in the talks. what do you make is your bill make of this and is your bill going the roof? yeah going through the roof? yeah well, been worried well, i've been really worried cause i've been worried about the october bill was something lik e £600 and we hadn't even put like £600 and we hadn't even put the hadn't even got the the i we hadn't even got the heating i don't want heating on yet. so i don't want to our bills are going through there. i know. but as far as this is concerned and daylight, we'll just your direct we'll just stop your direct debit. just stop direct debit. why not just stop direct debit? bit. the bit debit? i think the bit. the bit that really worries about that really worries me about this using it to this is if they're using it to if are skin. and then if people are skin. and then they're saying them your bill they're saying to them your bill has to go up. and i used to has got to go up. and i used to do some lancing. then they using that to invest in their that money to invest in their own business it's not wrong, own business it's so not wrong, far i'm concerned. i know far as i'm concerned. i know they definitely are this they definitely are doing this because about, because i'm well about, according telegraph. yes, according to the telegraph. yes, it's not bad. they're taking it taken people's money that they don't they don't have any way. they are struggling they're investing struggling and they're investing it or using it for it else or using it for themselves. oh, my. it's disgraceful, really. thank you very nicole there, who's very much to nicole there, who's been with me fantastically, actually the course of the actually over the course of the last 3 hours. we've got a headache. we've agreed pretty much nothing voluntarily . i've much nothing voluntarily. i've come away having thoroughly enjoyed all of this. thank you

very it's been real. very much. it's been a real. thank you. thank thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. right now it's dewbs& thank you. thank you. thank you. right oh, now it's thank you. thank you. thank you. right oh, novakua who's in the but it's nana akua who's in the studio now? do you on studio right now? what do you on coming nana. well i mean, coming up nana. well i mean, we're going to carry on and by the it was fun watching you in the it was fun watching you in the and that was i enjoyed the and that was great i enjoyed the and that was great i enjoyed the it's good watch, the fun it's good fun to watch, but we're to carry on with but we're going to carry on with the sort of conversation about the sort of conversation about the but we're the energy companies. but we're also the fact also going to look at the fact that we'll bulb, for that we'll say bulb, for example, they went bust. we, the taxpayer ended bailing them out. do it's about time, do you think it's about time, perhaps, bailing perhaps, that we stop bailing them if we do them out, them out or if we do them out, maybe they be maybe they should be renationalise. so we'll be looking that. we'll looking into that. plus, we'll also the nhs. we were also be looking the nhs. we were discussing it earlier in your show, patrick. we're looking into the actual funding of into the actual funding model of as time as well. is it about time started at that nhs started to look at that nhs model what they're wasting model, see what they're wasting money. should we still be money. i mean should we still be carrying on. is it a bottomless pits. we'll be asking that as well. with one boss well. and then with one boss being for stopping his being fined for stopping his employer or saying that his employer or saying that his employer shouldn't take time off because his son was because because his son was ill, because apparently it's a woman's job.

are getting a bogged down? are we getting a bogged down? are we getting a bogged down? are actually creating gender are we actually creating gender dysphoria? that's all on the way. that is fascinating . you way. that is fascinating. you wonder, do i expect anything less now to. thank very, less now to. thank you very, very much, mate. you stay locked right in gb news here. when nana will be with you the next will be with you for the next hour so thank you very much. hour or so thank you very much. everybody watching and everybody has been watching and listening in listening and emailing in a contacting us on social media as well throughout the course of this show with the practise wanted earlier on say are we back so six tomorrow back again three so six tomorrow zero and yes thank very much zero and yes thank you very much for everyone who's been getting involved really will coming involved really will be coming your shortly with your way very very shortly with a host of topics. a whole host of topics. we've got weather before , though. got your weather before, though. take people will be take it easy, people will be back at 3 pm. tomorrow . well, back at 3 pm. tomorrow. well, we've got windy conditions. many clouds and outbreaks of rain moving east. so a wet evening for southwest england. rain and drizzle, gusty winds , too, but drizzle, gusty winds, too, but mild for the time of year. temperatures around 11 celsius is the high and showery outbreaks of rain continuing

evening across much of the south—east of england with some brisk southwesterly winds . brisk southwesterly winds. temperatures around nine celsius. then the rain clearing east across wales this evening, though, taking time to care for the south and east of wales. staying windy too on a cloudy end of the day. then as head up to the midlands with further spells of rain there could be heavy at times, leading to some trading conditions, breezy to temperatures around nine celsius once more there then outbreaks of rain continuing to move east this evening across northern england with the rain heavy at times but should be drier. then from the west as the evening goes on, temperatures yes, around nine degrees once more scattered showers following today's rain and snow. then across scotland , though, we across scotland, though, we still got that yellow weather warning in place. the showers falling as therefore on the higher ground with icy stretches with close to freezing largely dry ends. the day for northern ireland, plenty of clear spells , just a few showers possible , , just a few showers possible, staying blustery there,

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good afternoon. it has just gone 6:00. this is a gb news on tv onune 6:00. this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . i'm in for michelle. nana akua. i'm in for michelle. this is jeeves and co. now coming up, we'll be discussing energy. energy companies. they've been holding huge swathes of our cash in credit, many using it to stay afloat. is it time that often the regulator put an end to this practise? and why on earth should we have to bail out? failed energy companies? light bulb to the tune of £6.5 billion. surely these companies should be nationalised then amidst the demands for more pay for nurses and striking ambulance