hello. good evening and welcome . dan wootton tonight without . . dan wootton tonight without. dan wootton and with me simon evans in for the amps and dangerously dan who as speak is summing his curves on one of sydney's most exclusive beaches, adelaide and a pack . so tonight adelaide and a pack. so tonight it's stuffed like an overindulged christmas labrador will be discussing all artificial intelligence. is it a threat a boon or just another flavour of hysteria over nothing as the recent census has confirmed that the uk is no longer , a majority christian longer, a majority christian country has christmas become just another secular drinking opportunity close on the heels of the world cup with brits a midnight pint to a midnight mass and table service to church service will discussing how to hold onto your happiness in this godless hell mental health and intimate relationships in the cold dark days ahead whether

having a thorough clear—out a decluttering might be a part of that mental hygiene . and of that mental hygiene. and of course, we'll be taking a look at the papers as they come in and crowning our great britain's and crowning our great britain's and our union jack for the evening all this and much more news, opinion and conversation galore. but first, we have the news headlines with ray radisson . th news headlines with ray radisson. th the gb newsroom. four people have been injured . a suspected have been injured. a suspected gas explosion at a house in worcestershire. emergency services were called to the incident in evesham shortly after 5 pm. three of the injured were taken to hospital. five neighbouring properties were evacuee as a precaution. people are being asked to stay away from . the area . west away from. the area. west midlands police have named 23 year old man killed at a nightclub in birmingham last nightclub in birmingham last night as codie. officers were called to the crane nightclub

just before midnight on boxing day after that, a man had been stabbed on the floor. hundreds of people at the club at the time. witnesses are being urged to come forward . merseyside to come forward. merseyside police has vowed to be relentless in its murder investigation of a 26 year old woman killed on christmas eve . woman killed on christmas eve. edwards was shot at the lighthouse pub in wallasey village while celebrating christmas with friends , family. christmas with friends, family. the 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder . a 19 year and attempted murder. a 19 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder rail. passengers are being told expect significant disruption into the new year amid a wave of industrial unrest across the country. there were busy scenes at london's king's cross station due to the knock on effects , those boxing day on effects, those boxing day strikes. of the tsa at have been staging 24 hour walkout as part of a long running dispute over

pay of a long running dispute over pay and conditions at least 60 people have died and thousands are without power as winter storms continue to hammer the us canada. freezing temperatures and blizzard conditions have left many areas under more than four feet of snow . city of four feet of snow. city of buffalo. in new york state been hit the hardest. 28 fatalities there with many people freezing to death in their cars. president joe declared a federal emergency . mark sommer is emergency. mark sommer is a journalist at buffalo news. he told us people were warned not told us people were warned not to use the roads. told us people were warned not to use the roads . was a travel to use the roads. was a travel ban instituted it immediately on friday morning but it didn't stop a lot of people from getting in their cars. maybe they wanted to rush to relatives houses for christmas maybe they wanted to get supplies at the last minute whatever the case may be . a lot of people were out may be. a lot of people were out of their homes. they shouldn't have been and some froze to death. it also it really difficult for search and rescue operations and for snow ploughs

to clear the roads because they had these scattered stranded cars all over the place . well cars all over the place. well meanwhile here, a yellow weather warning remains place for snow andicein warning remains place for snow and ice in the north and east of scotland. the met office says freezing conditions last until 10 am. tomorrow morning. traffic, scotland motorists should plan ahead with travel disruption likely . asked you to disruption likely. asked you to patchy ice mainly on higher routes . we're on tv online and routes. we're on tv online and on dab plus radio this gb news. back now to simon . back now to simon. thank you very much for the news headunes thank you very much for the news headlines there. i don't think any of us really need to be reminded of the yellow snow warning that's been issued. scotland. who's lived as scotland. anyone who's lived as long learned that long as i has learned that lesson bitter experience . lesson from bitter experience. so along to our bank so we'll come along to our bank houday so we'll come along to our bank holiday special have done tonight with me simon evans in the dan wooden chair coming up

on tonight's show in my big opinion i will be whether artificial intelligence is a threat a boon or just another flavour of hysteria over nothing in the big question. we'll be having the pub versus church debate is the traditional religious christmas now a thing of the past . an act of ludicrous of the past. an act of ludicrous tantric laughing? or does it still have a taint of spiritual value? with me to discuss this will be a pub owner, simon cleary, and an anglican father, nadim nassar. cleary, and an anglican father, nadim nassar . and he's the nadim nassar. and he's the motivation . a new is clean well motivation. a new is clean well we have the one and only legend and game mckenzie star of how clean is your house and a holding show as well on this particular subject and it's that is very dear to my own heart my have an awful lot of clutter when they gets in the way of my stuff it's time of year again the new resolutions come in second faster. you promised yourself, you'll be kinder to yourself, you'll be kinder to your body less self love more . your body less self love more. or when you take up some sort of

gym in the hopes that this year everything will be different. well, we have the best agony. aunt hilary freeman, to aunt in town, hilary freeman, to give you the best advice to, take into 2023, perhaps with some of sticking to it as far as february . and with throughout february. and with me throughout the is , my brilliant the show is, my brilliant all star panel, we have journalist and broadcaster linda dooley. we have legendary olympian at a boozy this is quite a thrill for me. i several years in person living half a mile from chris at the lucy's close or or he doesn't he doesn't yes he did exist it wasn't a figment of my imagination i'm living with a man who has his own road and. the former editor of labour list edwards. and as you can give me your views , if they're your views, if they're repeatable, they may well get repeated email gp views at gbnews.uk or tweet us at gb news. so let us get on with the show . in his

news. so let us get on with the show. in his book thinking news. so let us get on with the show . in his book thinking fast show. in his book thinking fast and slow nobel prize winning economist , and slow nobel prize winning economist, daniel kahneman explained his theory that there were two different systems by the brain operates in theory and all being well system one is fast instinct and emotional. system two is slower , more system two is slower, more deliberative, more logical . both deliberative, more logical. both serve a purpose and will ensue if only one mode is preferred or one is disabled altogether . if one is disabled altogether. if you shut down system, one and you're unable to react swiftly when someone throws a punch disable system to and we may find we're getting into a lot more fights than we used to in the first place. new two comes in two speeds fast news , the in two speeds fast news, the kind that requires an instant response block or duck. reporting from the scene, hastily assembled briefing notes on context and a possible implication followed up, of course, on gb news is by reaction and comment by. the experts and the columnists . and experts and the columnists. and then more often than not, an

early expiry date the news goes stale and is quietly into the bin or onto the heap of history . this is the kind of news that is part of the news cycle as it sometimes known, and sometimes it lasts only a day or two and very rarely more a week. this is not a new idea. in fact, wikipedia says it dates to the 1920s, but there is doubt that it is speeded with the advent of 24 hour news tv reporting, social media and notoriously shortening attention spans as a result. then there is the kind of news that changes beneath the surface the waves, if you like, the slow moving but powerful currents in the oceans of information. we all swim in. this rarely the potential to grab us without a specific event to alert our lookouts or convince our internal editors to make it the splash . these make it the splash. these currents rarely make onto the front pages of our attention , front pages of our attention, but they have the potential to change world far more profoundly

than the latest royal netflix drama madcap scheme to deter channel crossings or a tragic but random domestic gas explosion . many such trends, explosion. many such trends, such as climate change, remain precisely because they rely so heavily on modelling and speculation and lacks the obvious concrete events would not only make the news but prove larger scale theories correct others such as demographic change, the ageing population and decline of religion and the traditional family structure are also easily ignored them with some relief , to be honest, some relief, to be honest, because to draw attention them seems almost distasteful and rude, made up as they are of millions of tiny quite properly private individual decision as yet slow as they are. these are the forces that are creating the conditions in which many of the faster news items sow agitators arise such crises in the health service productivity and the cost of living. one such change.

one force that i would like to talk about today on my special day in the dan wootton memorial throne is the growth of what is broadly as artificial intel agents and its impact on the way we work and find meaning in our lives . now experts can argue lives. now experts can argue over exactly what is and is not a ai, but the capacity of machines of one kind or another computer is by any other name to quietly take over jobs and dufies quietly take over jobs and duties until 5 minutes ago were assumed by humans. is relentless and we need to start talking about it. sometimes these effects would appear be entirely benevolent. only yesterday instance several front carried the news that air in truth just algorithms , whatever a.i. would algorithms, whatever a.i. would be able to anticipate how long hospital would take and how soon patients could therefore live afterwards. it is anticipated would enable a more efficient use of hospital resources,

especially beds. and if this works according to a plan, only a crank could find cause to complain. of course . but what complain. of course. but what about the ai that can create what appears to be incredible original illustrate actions from a simple verbal prompt and looks likely to go through the world commercial art like a swarm of locusts. what about the a.i. bots that can fulfil the functions of everything from a call centre to a to an essay cheat at zero cost and a probably for my auto queue quite soon with nothing left for humans to do beyond the 21st century equivalent of list attendance . wearing a hat that attendance. wearing a hat that entitles you to push the buttons. what radiographers superseded overnight by programs better able to spot cancer in an x ray they ever can. after seven years of rigorous training and to spot more details about patient than they even thought possible . we've all been talking possible. we've all been talking about driver cars as long as we've been talking about nuclear fusion and energy that's too cheap to metre and fact that

they've stayed at a fixed point on the horizon is blinding to the approach of other equally forces in our lives. no doubt they will arrive day, but in the meantime, a thousand less obvious tasks are being quietly automated to all humans going to be like the coal miner's sons found newer, cleaner, less backbreaking work in the services industries . or are they services industries. or are they going be like the horses who went live on the farm ? are we went live on the farm? are we ready to become ? even if ready to become? even if taxation on robots could be imposed on the companies that improve productivity by eliminating tiresome human beings? and that could be to fund universal basic income. surely freud was not the only person to see the work in the sense of being needed, being productive in oneself is as essential to mental health as air, eye contact and touch. learning code is not an option for everyone. do we really quite where we're going here? are we really sure it's where we want

to go . so reacting to my big to go. so reacting to my big opinion monologue, that last 6 minutes of brain dump tonight have my brilliant panel journalist and broadcaster linda dewberry , legendary olympian dewberry, legendary olympian chris at a boozy the former editor of labour list peter edwards . editor of labour list peter edwards. coming where did you spend. edwards. coming where did you spend . sorry this . i do spend. sorry this. i do apologise. so did of you feel a stirring of some sort of agitation listening to that let me ask you chris is my neighbour in sindh alone . i suppose that's in sindh alone. i suppose that's letting at least is probably going to be last thing that might be replaced by by computers and artificial intelligence and so on, but do you feel that there's there are changes and shifts in the world that are not being adequately addressed by society ? well, addressed by society? well, actually, no. i mean, i think

sport is definitely one sport actually is definitely one of the arenas that has taken on artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint. starting artificial intelligence to it to its endpoint . starting blocks its endpoint. starting blocks now back in my day so that stand there that's a lot and oh he got on the of biology or where as he called you can do like timing but now there's all sorts of sensors in blocks and split camera positions to tell you that yes you've solar you've come to faster than than than the human body can trigger. come to faster than than than the human body can trigger . so the human body can trigger. so yes of a few quite a few things that i am so tickled my joints i suppose. that i am so tickled my joints i suppose . question is there is suppose. question is there is there's legitimate use isn't there, of artificial intelligence in in sport generally speaking of course we stay in the world cup. now a number of crucial decisions were referred to the var technology, which very controversial at the time when it first came in. and does some people seem paeans to the smooth flow the of the game. but when the referee likely to

send the wrong team through to the final probably best to the final it's probably best to be the ball passed over be sure if the ball passed over the suppose the main the line. i suppose the main threat really ultimately is the extent to which sport itself could become subject to in huntsman's, where the people might actually be able to use technology in order play better. i mean, we've already had being accused of using modified love beadsin accused of using modified love beads in order to cheat at chess. do you think this is something that could, like elevate hurdles. well again, you know, like in in today's world, the tracks have been modified in some way, shape , form. and so some way, shape, form. and so it's not a stretch of the imagination to some sort of computer implants, except say to say to people run faster. why you want to do that? i really don't know. but there you go. so the fact is, for me is we can't get away from it. our whole world has enhanced by it. it's for me, is unintended consequences . when guy goes from

consequences. when guy goes from a very helpful all round thing for the human experience in this to world surveillance for hubristic manipulation all of a sudden big brother is not just watching you but also manipulating you and i. that's the extent, isn't there? linda, would you say to which seem quite keen to embrace that a lot of people have discussed over the years who was more accurate. orwell or huxley seem to think that we would relish the convenience that came with technology and not particularly mind, though our every move was was observed . do about was observed. do you feel about that? look, i think that the march the relentless of artificial intelligence can't be stopped. you started your monologue by talking about the health service and there was a very two very big developments in the this morning reported in that we saw that you have a kind of avatar can actually talk to people and it's not it's obviously a real person it's an animated person that can give medical advice . but it was on

medical advice. but it was on top of a much more important story from the same fund actually within the government that was funding something called the brain omics experiment project. and that actually was able to help stroke victims. it's been hugely successful in helping stroke victims who suffered a stroke and then have to get hospital immediately. i miscarried very, very quickly, far the scans and read far quicker than a human being can and they can be treated almost immediately. being can and they can be treated almost immediately . and treated almost immediately. and some of those people have suffered strokes actually leave hospital with their health restored to normal. so it would be it would be ridiculous to complain about that, wouldn't it, to chafe on it. but it has some implications if you if you intend to become, of course, a medical practitioner. peter, i suppose in your line of work, which was, if i understand correctly, has been largely to do political science, do with political science, political do you feel political and so on, do you feel like ability of text like the ability of the text bots, the chat bots to create plausible dialogue and word and text and prose and so on? or

does that present a threat to your line of work even? i don't think it does present a threat. and i think your monologue was perhaps a little bit gloomy. us delighted that you started with sport because that is such a good example, you know, and it's interesting your chris said for example could a machine teach a child to play cricket for example in a game i love but a notoriously complex one of course not because it relies on judgement not just of the ball and the thought in the people you're facing, but the weather and the pitch and everything else. i think there's a big difference technology difference in technology and i use vr and we've i'm use i mentioned vr and we've i'm a football fan. we've been watching the world cup, but of course, operated human course, vr was operated by human beings . yes, we still have beings. yes, we still have a human interface . but you don't human interface. but you don't think of an artificial intelligence could some intelligence could have some role in teaching a child role to play in teaching a child to cricket if you to to play cricket if you to analyse it's backstroke and analyse it it's backstroke and it's it's forward movement it's and it's forward movement and to say i know you need to come forward a little bit further or lift the bat further back. that would be the sort of

thing that a computer very thing that a computer could very easily that well easily the footage that well i suspect a computer rather suspect that's a computer rather than but of course , and in than ai. but of course, and in any sport and analysis of what happensin any sport and analysis of what happens in know any sport which i didn't know about what chris does is judged often by by does it is judged often by by and millisecond. so analysis that kind premier league football clubs use it can be hugely helpful and to go to the other point about kind of distort sport, which i found really interesting as a sports junkie, for example , and some of junkie, for example, and some of these things priced in these things are priced in already. example, in cricket already. for example, in cricket and i believe in tennis there are restrictions on your bat and your tennis racket . and you your tennis racket. and you know, if a player that's maybe a middling player and they or their team on earth new technology, they can't just take it onto the court or the 20 ultimately the rules these type of things just like these rules spikes and shoes and running and on and so on. and so i think whether you're, you're teaching a child or you're engaging in elite and all these things ,

elite and all these things, human oversight and it might be a topic for another day. but, but the idea of using i in the nhs i think is really positive because we all, you know , we're because we all, you know, we're in the middle of an incredibly ferocious debate about the future of the nhs britain. and i'm from the left very passionate about, having a state providing state backed service, but actually what reform actually looks like in the nhs barely got started on that. so that's, you know, i think absolutely meaningful contribution. yeah, systems are going to be a big part of that. let's hope so. coming up, where did you spend your eve? down the pub or in midnight mass? we'll be discussing whether societies forgot religious tradition of christmas with pub owner simon and anglican priest father nadine messer. i'll get the chat room. we'll see you in minutes.

and it's time now for this . so and it's time now for this. so our big tonight has the super musically true meaning of christmas nativity and its message of hope for mankind. has that become truly obsolete once and for all. are we now a nation that has up any pretence of a spiritual dimension to this houday spiritual dimension to this holiday and so have any new traditions beyond overeating, overdrinking , overstaying our

overdrinking, overstaying our welcome convincingly stepped up to fill the gap . with me now on to fill the gap. with me now on this is pub owner simon clearly and angle and priest father nadeem nasar. good evening gentlemen and thanks to my guests for being up in the middle of this festival , of middle of this festival, of either drinking or praying and begging for forgiveness, i suppose on either side i can't help noticing the three of us certainly closely agreed on how to present ourselves this case. let me let the glasses and the grey beards . we're going for the grey beards. we're going for the enterprise. let me start with you, simon. i you're not actually behind the bar as we speak. it looks like you're rather dimly lit, if that's the case. but it's a it's a it's a busy time of year for you. i hope you've just stepped out the back for a few minutes minutes. and this is a busy time of year. we're not actually tonight. we're not actually open tonight. so my own glass of wine. so i have my own glass of wine. me, simon , what should father

me, simon, what should father want to improve ? i'm not. i say want to improve? i'm not. i say quite a lot of synergy between pops and churches at the moment , which might be a strange thing to say, but we are to organisations that offer solace to the community we are to places where people to mate. we're starting the places where various have been bereaved and those are singing you'll come to me other people and try to find some company. me other people and try to find some company . and we are also , some company. and we are also, as i'm sure the father may agree to, organisations that have suffered with dwindling numbers over the last few years. well is true of course. traditions of all sides are dwindling, changing. and i suppose the good book itself would warn and many of the world's great faith traditions warn us that things do change and it's a degree of steadfastness, food to hold your course under such conditions. father nadine , would you agree father nadine, would you agree

with simon's notion that pubs and churches are not so very different? he's he's going into villain mode. the no no , no, no villain mode. the no no, no, no he's not the villain at all. of course the number is dwindling, but for different reasons. of course i think the reason for us as a church is mainly two things we deal with christianity as a religion and christianity is not that. religion and christianity is not that . and second, we deal with that. and second, we deal with christianity , the trust which is christianity, the trust which is institution and. once you institution and. once you institution allies, the religion, you're killing it. so and both elements , religiosity and both elements, religiosity and both elements, religiosity and the people are fed up with that and the institution which is that man made body or structure also the people are fed up with are causing us to look at christianity in this

way. but that number is dwindling. yes is dwindling. but remember the story of christmas is the story is that god didn't have a place in the society . so have a place in the society. so mary was gave birth to jesus and put him in a manger is a wooden made for animals so. well it's funny you mention that because i noficedl funny you mention that because i noticed i noticed simon clearly our landlord is runs a pub called the plough which also leans clearly on its rural traditions in order to evoke a certain amount of bucolic charm, perhaps . do certain amount of bucolic charm, perhaps. do you do feel you certain amount of bucolic charm, perhaps . do you do feel you have perhaps. do you do feel you have some connection to that level as well? simon well, i'm not just well, at first with the bible as the father , course i'm not. but the father, course i'm not. but ihave the father, course i'm not. but i have a vague recollection that joseph and mary presented themselves to and then we are in in total things with two fold.

and that wasn't enough room i would say in these days in the decline markets are perhaps if joseph and mary and in england now present to themselves to remain with the way things are they probably find a proper room now i think they probably would if i might get use of the function room perhaps if there may be a little bit of booking is always is even one thing i've noficed is always is even one thing i've noticed and i don't think this just goes for the pubs and churches but huge swathes of british activity since we've come back out of lockdown, which has been like number of months has been like a number of months and very nearly year and we've had very nearly a year out of lockdown. yet the truth is, i think many us still struggle to remember what life was i've was like beforehand. think i've noficed was like beforehand. think i've noticed lot people at this noticed a lot people at this christmas time feeling just slightly uncertain about what the traditions they're supposed to be observing are. well, does that does that sort of chime for either you, simon? let me ask either of you, simon? let me ask you first. well, i have to you that first. well, i have to say, simon, that i've got some of the father here, because we have people in our christmas

eve, we have fantastic church here in chesterfield and of our customers left. they 11:00 to attend midnight mass. marvellous. what's is that these people probably equally religious . many of them may not religious. many of them may not know they attend the church so this but christmas is a time that brings people together . it that brings people together. it reminds them of story of christmas and they go along to enjoy mass part of the community. so i think that's an interesting point that even in 2022 we'll see them for a couple of drinks. we don't get them drunk and off they go to church because let ask you, father, i hope singing carols and, hymns is a big part of the services you at christmas time. that's that does cross the divide between the secular and the sacred it the unifying effect on a community when all joined in in one voice. it doesn't even

really matter. i mean obviously you disagree to some extent. but doesit you disagree to some extent. but does it matter whether ? these does it matter whether? these are carols or whether there's, you know roll out the barrel and knees up mother brown kerry getting together and familiar songs raises the spirits . tha songs always raises the spirits. tha for the people and the people love a good carol service or a number of carols during the course of this or during the mass . and you mentioned they're mass. and you mentioned they're very important point, which is the secular and the sacred. and i think in the sacred god did not a place in the society , in not a place in the society, in the secular also god did not have a place in the society today. so he did not find a place in the end. and today christmas is just a tradition is just going what item number one this year told me your sermon father was brilliant and it will remain with me for a long time.

i said thank you very much , will i said thank you very much, will see you soon. i hope. he said, okay, i'll see you next year because i come only for four midnight mass every year so that but need to revise this this tradition and bring the true meaning of all. there are a lot of people who need hope not only a bit of music and a bit of singing and as a gift or a or something this is this should should not just give in to the need of the economy for the people to go and buy, but to integrate more in the society values, the values of quite true. i will just add as well one thing i've always told the church was fairly that was reliable or if subconscious value that it provided was that of offering people an opportunity once a week to express gratitude for the good

things that they have because very easy to slip into being more aware of things are going wrong. things you've been denied or deprived of, especially at this time of year, when you're depnved this time of year, when you're deprived of light and cold or depnved deprived of light and cold or deprived heat, rather the deprived of heat, rather the sort of regular mechanisms for expressing gratitude. and i think to some extent that with buying year round as well doesn't it? simon well, buying year round as well doesn't it? simon well , think of doesn't it? simon well, think of father wood . i'm not going to father wood. i'm not going to put words into father's mouth. i'm sure he would agree that whilst we can all criticise the commercialism that christmas now become, it is an opportune asset for the church along with other big festivals such as easter, to remind our communities that the church is there. the church is there for everybody. and an opportunity, whether it's successful or not, to try and get the community to engage with the church. so i'm the stand, the church. so i'm the stand, the father's view and it's over commercialised . i think we all commercialised. i think we all agree with that. father but it is a post of opportunity for the

church to offer engagement. so i think we should celebrate that. i said it's this and i think there's a very promising accord developing here. i hope we can pursue it. it wouldn't hurt, would it, in fact, if the church had a corner of the local path in it could sort of, you in which it could sort of, you know, present few icons and know, present a few icons and perhaps leaflets advertising what coming out. what was coming out. and equally, land lord of the equally, if the land lord of the local a barrel was at local had a barrel that was at the of the church, know for the back of the church, know for those little bit of those who needed a little bit of immediate a particularly immediate after a particularly hard sermon one what would you land landed a bit too close to home the bed perhaps quick half before before taking a stroll around the grounds. do you think you could do some of my . if you could do some of my. if i may, there was a slight problem there and that is that the church gives away the warmth for free. and he's asking the point you get the criticism. one flavour though i think you're still nudged ahead on the snap front. well you you could be my guest . sorry so great guest. sorry so great grandfather simon . i said he

grandfather simon. i said he should be a churchwarden if he has such a positive opinion about the church . we are proud about the church. we are proud of you. assignment go for it. i think you should swap over a couple of days. i think it'd be an interesting exercise and it'd be interesting to see whether you regulars notice the difference as well. so thank you to my guest. simon landlord of the plough , father nadine . the the plough, father nadine. the it was a pleasure to have you on the show. coming up, we'll have the show. coming up, we'll have the cleaning queen herself aggie mackenzie us to talk through the tips and tricks of a new year clean why so your mental clean and why so for your mental health, don't go anywhere. we'll be 3 minutes. time be back in just 3 minutes. time for . a swift .

air and welcome back to tonight with dan wootton but without dan wootton and with me simon evans. now many viewers will be very familiar with our next guest, two hugely popular decluttering shows. how clean is your house and storage hoarders ? she is and storage hoarders? she is here to help us decide how to make room for all our lovely new premises and not slip ever further into clutter. hell, this winter it is, of course, aggie mackenzie . aggie, welcome to the mackenzie. aggie, welcome to the show . how are you? very well, show. how are you? very well, thank you. and i think just about my head above water on this first escapade into full scale presenting let has said well , bring

scale presenting let has said well, bring my panel in on this shortly. but firstly me ask you, aggie, you obviously a past at identifying cluttering tendencies. my sense is that they are at their peak during they are at their peak during the christmas season loads of new stuff comes very little old stuff seems to go out and the mountains grow higher and spread wider at the foothills . what's wider at the foothills. what's your advice . my is to be a your advice. my is to be a ruthless. abso lutely ruthless. in fact it's a good it's a bit like st nun. it's a good idea. just before christmas to have a good ol clear to you know, get the decks and for the coming . the decks and for the coming. but if you haven't managed to do that, then this is a great time, you know that sort time between christmas and you it's all bit kind of and quite so unless you've gone away to a really good declutter and then sort all your stuff out into piles, you know , keep it. it's something know, keep it. it's something that's actually worth keeping love and you might want to sell

some stuff or it to charity shop actually got a pile over there that actually a couple presents in there and i shouldn't say that but i think that if you don't like the presents kind of contaminate environment with them . yeah. oh so if you don't them. yeah. oh so if you don't like the who gave them to you of course . sometimes a print, course. sometimes a print, sometimes a present can be an unwelcome reminder of the person who gave it to you. that can be even worse. we have a sort of spare in our house at the moment. our daughter, who's 18, moment. our daughter, who's18, has taken a gap year before going to university next year, and she has the place unbelievably needy and in clothing. i am sure she's forgotten. most of it is . is forgotten. most of it is. is there legitimate authority ? as there a legitimate authority? as a parent? am i allowed to just shove stuff in escape or do i have to get her permission on that ? no, what have to get her permission on that? no, what i have to get her permission on that ? no, what i say have to get her permission on that? no, what i say is just keep the door shut. don't even go in there. just pretend

everything's okay . is this what everything's okay. is this what i clean up? yeah, fair enough. and it doesn't. yeah, but do genuinely when people have christmas presents arriving in our house. i do try and instil i mean my am son who's 15 goes we live in brighton goes into the markets every weekend and comes back with a couple of new workwear you know he thinks he's some sort of sawmill operative in caroline or in in northern caroline or something it's enough to something. it's fair enough to demand that one in one out with that kind of stuff. would you say is that is that a good rule of, the edgy as you go? yeah, not to me . otherwise you just not to me. otherwise you just get completely and suffocated by stuff. and the more stuff you have, the less you can see what you have and the less you appreciate the things that you do have. and definitely. i think that's a really good rule to follow . absolutely. i do have follow. absolutely. i do have one exception. sorry interrupt. i do have one exception. i want to paint. however, books books can be consumed, books can be purchased and just put on

shelves regard you don't have to expect to read them right? i buy about ten books for every one i read. generally speaking. second—hand. so you know, it's not breaking the bank in your degree on that . when i leave degree on that. when i leave tess , i had hundreds and tess, i had hundreds and hundreds of books and i thought, hold on a minute if i haven't read it already, i'm never going to read it. if already read it, i'm not going to read it. and so i'm not going to read it. and so iended i'm not going to read it. and so i ended up taking very books with me. and i used the library much more than i used to . ijust much more than i used to. ijust don't want that cluttered anymore . when you say the anymore. when you say the library, you mean the municipal . but you don't. you don't have a room in your house that you call library local library call the library local library that i pay my rent for. and i use it very let me go to the panel and get their views on their standard. me ask you, are you are you a clutter hound? are you are you a clutter hound? are you immune ? this kind of you immune? this kind of behaviour did now from my ability or even my prowess at

it's housework , i'm very, very it's housework, i'm very, very tidy. i started tidying up this year on christmas night. i'd had my second run at it on boxing day night. i had my third go at it today and i hope to be completely shipshape and span. but i year's eve i'll have a nice dinner and then i'll start with a final draft . the clearing with a final draft. the clearing up on new year's. with a final draft. the clearing up on new year's . fantastic. up on new year's. fantastic. i hope to be something very similar sounding to shipshape by new year's eve. i have to say . new year's eve. i have to say. what about you ? with the what about you? with the clutter, you look like you're fairly neat, tidy individual, but of course it's quite to do that just with your own personal affairs, isn't it? it's. well, you're saying that i've had a shave but no, shave on my shirt, but no, i think if you live in a flat as do it is a bit of a there's a mirror in decluttering. but i think ike hit the nail on the head as well and she talks about decluttering. actually went head as well and she talks about de

around birthday around christmas or birthday and everyday lose the everyday life, maybe lose of the bigger bit too bigger picture and get bit too bound in commercial stuff. bound up in commercial stuff. but also just having a bit of to move can also give you a bit of space think so it probably is good all us just to just good for all of us just to just throw out a little bit if we can but that don't be draconian. don't be too harsh, but just one in, one out seems perfectly sensible, especially this time of year. there is definitely a healthy balance, isn't there, between creating a sort of almost a high generic sterile atmosphere, a slightly like vibe you get in some people's rooms where nothing, no dust is allowed to settle, no way to is allowed to settle, no way to is allowed to settle, no way to is allowed to be out of place. and that can be intimidating, but i do personally, respond very do personally, i respond very much to things that you can see in their entirety. find it in their entirety. i find it genuinely mentally stressful to be even in the garden. you know i like to clear the undergrowth around it. you've got around it. so you've got a decent tree or a shrub or like an ice or a maple tree or something nice that something that it's nice that it's allowed you can see its it's allowed to. you can see its silhouette. think silhouette. i think that's important. do feel about important. how do you feel about that? my garden is

that? chris my garden is immaculate gardener immaculate because a gardener and and actually everything and he's and actually everything my house is dogs as well as law i set stuff in my house. if i lost it if it got burned overnight, i wouldn't miss it. i'm a totally i'm a hoarder. overnight, i wouldn't miss it. i'm a totally i'm a hoarder . the i'm a totally i'm a hoarder. the last time my house got cleared out. so when i got divorced, 2004 four. you know, i mean , i'm 2004 four. you know, i mean, i'm absolute nonsense , but what absolute nonsense, but what i find generally i live on a 20% and of a viable good , happy life and of a viable good, happy life order 20. i'm always get might just need shirt. yeah well 9095 when i was walking so you know it's still there as my father's taught me he's 93 and a couple of months time, god willing it was taught me one thing it's never throw anything out and. it's no good rule. but you come from a different time. they grew up in before in between the wars you know when if you threw out a bit asbestos or aluminium or

bit of asbestos or aluminium or more a bent tin y, you more like a bent tin y, you know, enough, months know, sure enough, six months time need that to fix time you might need that to fix , 90 time you might need that to fix , go up and then to get it. , to go up and then to get it. we i mean, a sixties and we and i mean, i'm a sixties and every now and again it works, you think, well, is it? i know, i know what goes. it's been there for 35 years. as finally, i've got to use it and go to get it and it's gone now. that's probably what caused your divorce. what is our panel on on on song hip . sorry, i was just on song hip. sorry, i was just saying is our panel roughly song and anything you want to pick up on totally i'm yeah very very well and i think it's really important not to be too to you know christie and you know, i think hosni to be clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy . you know, you don't to be happy. you know, you don't go too mad. can i ask you, i mean, obviously you hosted those very successful shows and i did particularly enjoy the stories holder thing because that was exactly of thing

exactly the sort of thing i would get into thinking. just pushit would get into thinking. just push it further set down push it one further set down there out of sight. there and that's out of sight. but you do it in private capacity as well. do people invite you into their home without cameras. they're that you be able to you will actually be able to sprinkle fairy that sprinkle your fairy that way. yeah i absolutely doing yeah yeah i absolutely doing i really really do i think this is such a great feeling. it's kind of it's a, you know, really you get a lot of adrenaline and it and then on the process saying whose house you know i did it for a friend recently and she was just thrilled. absolutely thrilled. you just have a lightness and a kind . you can lightness and a kind. you can breathe a bit more easily. lightness and a kind. you can breathe a bit more easily . you breathe a bit more easily. you shouldn't. you're introduce a little bit of a supernatural as well. i know there are some people who go clapping into the corners of rooms, frighten the demons out, and she bells and chimes at them as well . chimes at them as well. definitely boosted even thank you very much for that. again, we do appreciate your time coming in in this holiday season. coming up next, should we be setting ourselves new year

resolutions? do they really work 7 resolutions? do they really work ? you can probably tell from my tone, my views. joining me on this will be deirdre herself, hilary freeman. you want to miss any of that? we'll see you in 3 minutes .

welcome back. know who he is, he's a well—known time to make resolutions, though personally, i prefer leave it till march. the midwin is no time for removing creature comforts, in my view, but my legs may have different views, she is a legend on the agony aunt circuit , on the agony aunt circuit, please welcome hilary freeman. hello hilary, how are you ? good, hello hilary, how are you? good, thank you? how are you? not too bad . thank you very much indeed. bad. thank you very much indeed. happy as i like to think of this time of the year. so how are you finding how are you finding the prospect resolutions? do you have that needs resolving

urgently ? well, i quite amused urgently? well, i quite amused by your last conversation about clutter because as you probably say me this kind of and i, i live on about so it's quite it's quite important not to have too much cats because. we might actually sink as we moved on with all our yeah. it's called balanced isn't it. when i'm on the phone my with is everything. do i get rid of my clutter? but it never works. how big is the boat? you mean like a canal boat? you mean like a canal boat? or are you on the high seas? yes i. it's a canal . boat? or are you on the high seas? yes i. it's a canal. i'm in the marina. seas? yes i. it's a canal. i'm in the marina . so it's a wide in the marina. so it's a wide bay. in the marina. so it's a wide bay . absolutely lovely. but bay. absolutely lovely. but funnily enough in one of the programs that aggie presented , programs that aggie presented, the hoarders that i watched in order to prepare for that last segment, she helped a couple, a gay couple who were living on a canal boat and still accumulating clutter. and it was making life intolerable and turning their place into a fire risk. you've been warned that risk. so you've been warned that i should get around? yeah, you should. but seriously, is a should. but seriously, is this a good for resolute ? since i

good time for resolute? since i don't it is , i think we don't believe it is, i think we need to be kind to ourselves in january february start january and february and start thinking about improving ourselves in march . yeah, well, ourselves in march. yeah, well, i think the thing resolutions is it's a tradition, isn't it, to have a new year's resolution in january, beginning of year. they all you're doing is setting yourself up to fail because it's cold, it's dark , you've got no cold, it's dark, you've got no money. it's you know, you there's nothing to do. there's nowhere to go. and you're just going to fail because . you're going to fail because. you're miserable. and what you really is, is to kind of be kind to yourself at that time of year. i think we do understand so we do understand a bit more about willpower and so on. these days, don't we? i think there's been some serious research into it. and is it exhausting using willpower has been proven to have the same sort effect as revising for exams, even just like refusing to eat the cream cake once it's in the fridge oven cake once it's in the fridge over. you may as well have over. say you may as well have eaten not going eaten it because it's not going anywhere is it? so, anywhere else, is it? so, i mean, i do think that you if

it's going to tie you out when you're feeling miserable already. . and what already. yeah, exactly. and what you need to do is just be kind to yourself and just and just do that. you enjoy that are simple things and, you know, just look forward to the future than putting pressure on yourself because . that's the worst thing because. that's the worst thing you can do. we've got so much to anxious about at the moment. and, you know, money worries. the war in ukraine still got covid you know , covid hanging along, you know, and if people stop putting pressure on themselves to like, you know, be just going you know, be they are just going to set themselves up to be really, really off and miserable . how do you how do you keep yourself up on the houseboat when the evenings get cold and damp. and would imagine damp. and i would imagine a certain of damp does certain amount of damp does penetrate, it? although penetrate, does it? although look quite dry. i almost sceptical your claims sceptical about your claims at the be at you, the moment be looking at you, but believe me , yeah, it gets but believe me, yeah, it gets very cold i mean a couple of weeks ago we were like under the covers with a about six layers.

so if the houseboats rocking don't come knocking is that it . don't come knocking is that it. yeah, it's pretty , it's pretty yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty solid. is it . we've got a of solid. is it. we've got a of geese on the roof who were living on the roof above our bedroom a couple of. well and they seem to be enjoying themselves a couple of geese. oh sorry. i thought he said please yes. okay. you've got a couple of geese on the roof and neither of geese on the roof and neither of those got roasted for christmas so that was quite decent . you vegetarians . thank decent. you vegetarians. thank you so much for your time. that's been a very enlightening and i feel just completely vindicated in my views . you, vindicated in my views. you, hilary freeman, have a wonderful 2023 we have coming up in the next hour h from steps this course disturbed by blocking what seems to be the majority of twitter users. why the unsung heroes christmas will give heroes christmas they will give up holidays to help those up their holidays to help those in and i'll be speaking to in need and i'll be speaking to carly goldsmith how do carly goldsmith about how you do the we the the same. then we have the papers hot off the press at 1030 sharp. don't go anywhere. i see

you a couple of minutes .

and welcome back to dan wootton tonight with me , simon evans tonight with me, simon evans settling in to the dimples left by dan wootton's absence . so in by dan wootton's absence. so in our second hour, we have one end of the spectrum of human behaviour , a deep dive into the behaviour, a deep dive into the erratic celeb variety on twitter and at the other end some , and at the other end some, people in my part of the world thatis people in my part of the world that is sussing some living saints, no less , are getting saints, no less, are getting stuck in doing what they can to help keep their community cheerful, fed and warm. but first, we have the latest news headunes first, we have the latest news headlines with ray anderson . headlines with ray anderson. thanks, simon here's the latest

from the gb newsroom. four people have been injured in. a suspected gas explosion at a house in worcestershire. emergency services were called to the incident . evesham shortly to the incident. evesham shortly after 5 pm. three of the injured were taken to hospital . injured were taken to hospital. five neighbouring properties were evacuated as a precaution . were evacuated as a precaution. people are being asked to stay away from the area . west away from the area. west midlands police have named a 23 year old man killed in a nightclub birmingham last night as codeine . officers were called as codeine. officers were called to the cray nightclub just before midnight on boxing day after reports that a man had been stabbed on the dance floor. hundreds of people were at the club at the time. witnesses are being urged to come forward . being urged to come forward. mersey side police has vowed to be relentless in its murder investigation of a 26 year old woman killed christmas eve. 11 was shot at the lighthouse inn in wallasey village while celebrating with friends , celebrating with friends, family. the 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion,

murder and attempted murder. 19 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy . on suspicion of conspiracy. murder rail passengers are being told to expect significant disrupt into new year amid wave of industrial unrest across the country. they were busy at london's king's cross earlier due to the knock on effects of boxing day strikes . members of boxing day strikes. members of the tsa at cross country have been staging a 24 hour walkout as part of a long running dispute over pay conditions . at dispute over pay conditions. at least 60 people have died and thousands are without power as winter storms continue to hammer the us and canada. freezing temperatures and blizzard conditions have left many under more than four feet of snow. the city of buffalo, new york state , has been hit the hardest with 28 fatalities. many people freezing to death in their cars . president joe biden has declared a federal emergency .

declared a federal emergency. and a yellow weather warning here remains in place for snow andicein here remains in place for snow and ice in the north and east of scotland . the met office says scotland. the met office says freezing conditions could last until 10 am. tomorrow morning. traffic scotland warned motorists of ongoing disruption due to patchy ice mainly on higher ground . on tv online on higher ground. on tv online on dab+ radio this is gb news. back now to simon evans. they thank you, ray. and i see yellow snow warning still stands in scotland. hi, everyone. welcome to the bank holiday special. dan wootton tonight with me, simon evans . the hot with me, simon evans. the hot seat, not hot , i should say, seat, not hot, i should say, with the remains of dan's body heat coming up in the second hour of tonight's show, we eight from steph's not on the show he has caused a stir by blocking

what seems to the majority of 2g usesin what seems to the majority of 2g uses in cluding myself . what uses in cluding myself. what don't no one know. we'll be discussing this with my fabulous and i'm sure we'll find out whether he's blocked any of them to might be the first they know of it. we'll be talking to one of it. we'll be talking to one of the unsung heroes of the christmas carly goldsmith, who helped feed those of the company's food banks. the christmas weekend at 30, we'll be having a sneak of what headunes be having a sneak of what headlines are making papers and staying me until the end of the show under contractual. my brilliant all star panel of journalist and broadcaster linda do believe we have legendary olympian chris at a boozy and the former editor of the label is . so the latest celebrity to is. so the latest celebrity to apparently find their brain fused by the demands of maintaining a stable on social media. the erstwhile eight from

star now known as h. watkins is always a point in a pop star's career where they decide that their early , facetious moniker their early, facetious moniker needs establishing on a more stable ground . remember that stable ground. remember that billie became billie piper is now known as william piper, which think may be a stage too far anyway . it has. it seems too far anyway. it has. it seems too much for ian watkins. he's a blocking spree, blocking every run, including, it turns out me , is a grab for my phone when i check me out. for sure enough, i've never had interaction with ian h. watkins i very rarely given the man much thought, although it did achieve a certain amount of success in the early days with a gag. i did doing security at the brits. i said it all kicked one year. i was the only thing between h and jake k who was famous at that time . he was the lead singer of time. he was the lead singer of jamiroquai. anyway was an alphabet joke. it looks better in print here. i got a oh i as full i understand panel what what he's blocking people for is

it seems to be in the turf he is essentially come out on the side of the trans rights activists and.he of the trans rights activists and. he has blocked anyone who is ever any point suggested that a woman is an adult female human being and that is are things possibly some sort of block list? can i ask you, first of all, what stop as you, linda, do, are you active on twitter do you do understand the protocols you do understand the protocols you give a about this sort of thing? not really. it's not something i care about hugely although i've had do as although when i've had to do as although when i've had to do as a journalist i have done it. i published a magazine of my own into lockdown. i had to do it then. i've done it at other times. basically, i think the whole is ridiculous of people because they occupy a space that you don't agree with and then them blocking you. it's a waste of time. it really is. it's a waste of time , energy. and just waste of time, energy. and just very briefly just before i came here tonight wasn't on twitter. it was on a lectern . but i made it was on a lectern. but i made a post in support of afghan, who, as we know , have been

who, as we know, have been banned from any education over the age of 12 this week by the taliban . and suddenly i've taliban. and suddenly i've ignhed taliban. and suddenly i've ignited some kind of gender debate on linkedin it's ridiculous a lot . this is about, ridiculous a lot. this is about, in my mind , what can we do in in my mind, what can we do in practical terms make a difference to your life and, not igniting some kind intellectualised debate. it's all a waste of time. i mean , all a waste of time. i mean, does seem odd if. all a waste of time. i mean, does seem odd if . the does seem odd if. the implications are correct the eighties just decided to block anyone ever spoken in favour of sex based rights for women? essentially what he's doing is he's eliminating himself the whole debate, isn't he? he's unwilling to hear anyone. i think blocking is. but i mean, you may very well think that the whole behaviour twitter whole behaviour of being twitter more absolutely more than is absolutely necessary to begin necessary infantile to begin with. if you want to spend with. but if you want to spend any twitter and, any time on twitter and, somebody bothering somebody is bothering you, somebody is bothering you, somebody you, somebody is attacking you, somebody is attacking you, somebody exposing to abuse somebody is exposing to abuse and on. it's perfectly and so on. it's perfectly reasonable to block them in that situation, but to essentially just completely denounce chris, have you have you been active on twitter? you pursued a public

profile through that medium. so i've on twitter since 2009. i've been on twitter since 2009. and when i first got into twitter, it was a lovely space. you got to know people actually got to know people and then, you know, might meet of know, you might meet some of those people was great fun meetups. we used to call them. yeah was great and yeah it was, it was great and i've really enjoyed but i've really enjoyed it. but now, i've really enjoyed it. but now, i mean, talk twitter to people i mean, i talk twitter to people who i, i wouldn't even know if i've been blocked sometimes, you know, you do get trolled, but you just you can't let them talk . yeah, yeah. you don't even talk . and after a while because, talk. and after a while because, you know, responding , they go on you know, responding, they go on to the beautiful . they've the to the beautiful. they've the facility that you have on is to mute them so that they know that you can no longer hear them . and you can no longer hear them. and then they are just screaming for one for the expression of that, i there is there is a suspicion thatis i there is there is a suspicion that is an important field, a domain, a territory in which political debates come and go and especially, obviously the, you know, the rules with corbyn people like having jones so on

who lead a lot of the conversation in the in the direction that that labour should take peter is that is that something that you've had to sort of like chew on and swallow too in order to operate in those territories. well i've certainly chew upon it. i certainly had to chew upon it. i didn't enjoy taste didn't terribly enjoy the taste . twitter has a huge . think and twitter has a huge impact and it's great for communication it allows people to perhaps outside the westminster bubble to hold the powerful to account. but but it is a bubble twitter and actually i'm quite i try to be reasonable offline in real life and pretty passive on twitter you know i do about one tweet a year and i'm quite happy with that and i do think if you look at big figures from british history , whether from british history, whether it's culture, the arts , politics it's culture, the arts, politics and some of them pre—date this time. but i think they'd united by their indifference to social media is good for a short term thing . you know, holding a thing. you know, holding a decision maker off and some corporates getting themselves into trouble, you know, how big is right after brexit, etc, etc. yeah, actually we're speaking at

doesn't that remind us that there's, there's a premium on human relationships and i think they're best carried out in the flesh or over the. absolutely although it is interesting what chris said there because that's the only time for me. i too joined, in 2009, i made some significant friendships on twitter also as a touring twitter and also as a touring comedian, i'm a stand up comedian, i'm a stand up comedian in between these kind of and would be able to go of jokes and would be able to go to gigs knowing that somebody i'd on i'd been chatting with on twitter was going to come along that and meet them the that night and meet them in the bar, almost always bar, they were almost always smaller i expected, smaller than i expected, very similar to meeting actors, i suppose, because actually it does amplify and this is beauty of it when it's done well, it allows people, regardless of physical prowess, they're in their capacity to intimidate or or overwhelm me with, you know , or overwhelm me with, you know, modulated voice and perhaps some sort of learned rhetorical powers over some really mild mannered, shy people who may even have speech impediments . so even have speech impediments. so on whatever can come across every bit as powerfully is as a well—trained , professional well—trained, professional speaker . and that's a marvellous

speaker. and that's a marvellous thing . i think. funnily enough, thing. i think. funnily enough, it is the thin skinned showbusiness that come out of it worse because they are revealed for being what they aren't just human beings, whereas of course they previously traded on the idea they be something slightly more than that. no, more than that. yeah, no, exactly. i i think in 2009 exactly. i mean, i think in 2009 when i went onto twitter , i when i went onto twitter, i mean, there was a premium for being somebody that had in the pubuc being somebody that had in the public sphere and a lot of the general , you know, get in touch general, you know, get in touch and talk about. in my case, talk about the ethics and where they were and how it went. and whenever there was a sporting if ispoke whenever there was a sporting if i spoke , you know, you'd get i spoke, you know, you'd get retweeted a nowadays you just have blogs and no one cares who you are, what you done, you know, unless you , you know, a know, unless you, you know, a complete different sphere . so complete different sphere. so who cares ? it doesn't bother me. who cares? it doesn't bother me. it it might be moving into a different stage. i mean, to be fair, in social media terms or in silicon valley tech terms,

it's been 13, 14 years. that is a lifetime. you know , that says, a lifetime. you know, that says, you know, that's as long as a lot them can hope to last. linda, i know you a lot of what you're saying for charity and so on trying to organise support on in trying to organise support afghan particular afghan refugee women particular but speaking that but just generally speaking that is a danger there as well with twitter that people will think they've petition, that they've signed a petition, that they've signed a petition, that they've activist they've done that the activist kind approach it can be kind of approach it can be a organising tool. it can also take a lot of the steam out of a situation. people feel they've done their bit and move on. nothing, of course, change and they haven't . of course they they haven't. of course they haven't. i'm saying it's haven't. i'm not saying it's wrong to engage your twitter at all. i think twitter can be enormously useful, particularly when you have a short link and it leads you to an article that is really you need to read . and is really you need to read. and i petitions are very i think petitions are very useful. i think it's all about balance. i think that should be prepared to boost their offline life alongside their online . and life alongside their online. and thatis life alongside their online. and that is very, very important, there's no doubt at all. and i was talking the global media

head of save the children only this week, and he was saying that they regard the social media as such an incredibly important all in fighting, all sorts of regimes, including the taliban . so it does have taliban. so it does have a really good but it does depend on how you use it. and of course, now we've got other platforms like tiktok mean tiktok is so important at the moment. it's than youtube and instagram combined in this country. and i think there was something like 18 million followers hit just here in the uk and yet terrifyingly tok there's some suggestion that is actually a tool of a regime that the chinese government. yes so powerful it fell through that . powerful it fell through that. yeah.i powerful it fell through that. yeah. i don't know how true this is but they apparently the algorithms to set up in this country do waste our children's hours turned into days turn into weeks of them just go whereas in china children see mathematical puzzles and science experiments tiktok and they are not just like sort of fad like like grain

lot like being fattened up with abject nonsense . there is abject nonsense. there is something very dystopian about, about the exposure of children to this kind of algorithm doing . yeah, yeah. i mean it's all down to as i think parental contribution i think is really , contribution i think is really, really got to pay attention to what your child's doing and you're have to educate yourself and that's very difficult for people. certainly women of my age. but even women who are maybe a generation younger , who maybe a generation younger, who have young children engaging in social, you absolutely have to know what they're doing at every step the because it is a step the way because it is a powerful tool, whatever you think of it, whether it's whether it's facebook, that's of dying death, whether it's dying a death, whether it's twitter whether it's tik tok twitter or whether it's tik tok , there's new one none of us , there's a new one none of us have. even heard of. that really is. but rolling into our child's brains. to wind up brains. peter, just to wind up very quickly from a political of view, is it can be quite view, twitter is it can be quite unsatisfying. would unsatisfying. is it what would you anyone who you recommend to anyone who really get into really wanted to get into politics at the moment? do they do they should sidestep social media go to meetings, media and just go to meetings, going there's been

going to meetings. there's been a tradition labour a great tradition of the labour force. there for 4 hours force. he sit there for 4 hours and hours and hours debating this me tell you this movement. let me tell you one very quickly. that one thing very quickly. that 2015, the closest general, i think and certainly in think and certainly within in recent memory at several parties, spent a lot of money on twitter. apparently the tories quietly spent, a lot of money on facebook targeting in swing seats. and that was really where the tories their return, because i believe that much more of an impact because in twitter cause you're speaking the westminster bubble. yeah facebook you know speaking to the public at large you are those is true is it's all about the democrat fix coming got the papers coming up we've got the papers at 1030 sharp with full panel reaction . before will reaction. before that, we will speak to community worker has speak to a community worker has looked people need over looked after people in need over the season. all this and the festive season. all this and more with you just more back with you in just 3 minutes. don't go away .

i hello and welcome back. now my next guest is on a section we're calling and song heroes. and i am pleased to confess a personal connection here . our wonderful connection here. our wonderful cleaner jade , told us a few cleaner jade, told us a few weeks ago about her community that she was involved in in neighbourhood that provides not only food bank but also free hot meals, cooked and waiting for those who are finding things bit tight in these difficult times and entertainment and and lots of entertainment and the too. we're going the like, too. and we're going to now to the who runs to talk now to the lady who runs the show. if i it the whole show. if i it correctly. we go over live to

kali in brighton . kali hello . kali in brighton. kali hello. good evening. lovely see you and meet you. we spoke briefly on the phone earlier but we've not actually met face to face. but we have our lovely jade in common who i absolutely want credit this credit with initiating this conversation . so she told us conversation. so she told us a few weeks about this, this sort of kitchen and lunch service they were offering and so on as. well, as i suppose what has become a standard british become a fairly standard british life , food offer , could life now, food bank offer, could you explain a little bit about what you've and what you've set up ? yeah, of course so the crew up? yeah, of course so the crew club is a youth and community organisation that's been working on the by hook state since 1999 and it was established and is run by two fabulous people. darren and and it darren and right now and it became really to us as we came out the pandemic that the out of the pandemic that the cost of living crisis combined with impacts of covid was with the impacts of covid was having a really bad impact on. local people's incomes. and so one of the things that we decided to do was to set up a community food, and that involves jade who's our

community food worker doing a21 breakfasts on tea mornings a week, plus two lunches, two afternoons a week. and we have a share shop so people can come in. they're in need of some bafic in. they're in need of some basic items or they can bring bits in that they want share with shop. the other with the shop. so the other residents other members of residents and other members of the club can benefit from the crew club can benefit from those . and presumably the cooks those. and presumably the cooks and everyone is all people who are it voluntarily . and are doing it voluntarily. and you've a network of people you've got a network of people who out . who will helping helping out. yeah. so we have some paid staff. so jade a member of staff. so jade is a member of our paid staff who is the kind of person, rely of primary person, but we rely very heavily volunteers. so very heavily on volunteers. so we people who are doing we have people who are doing their and hygiene their health and hygiene certificates who certificates with us, who are supporting through the to do supporting us through the to do the breakfasts , the lunches. and the breakfasts, the lunches. and so i mean, we've been absolutely delighted by the amount of support that the community has given you were telling given us. but you were telling me the organisation itself me that the organisation itself back a couple of decades now, perhaps even a little bit longer. but it's been one way or another and gradually growing. tell us origins. that's tell us the origins. that's

right. the crew club opened right. so the crew club opened in 1999 and it was opened because of the tragic murder of a young person on our estate who j. kensit and there was a group of young people who really needed a safe to go. and so down in the rain opened up the crew club as a as a space for young people go to spend their time people to go to spend their time after . and it's really after school. and it's really grown from there. so when you say i was you were telling me earlier, it was initially in very unprepossessing , like using very unprepossessing, like using an old abandoned, changing or something. is that right? yeah was it was a set of abandoned changing rooms. its location is right by some football pitches on stay and we were on our stay and yeah we were originally in, in a set of very, very small changing rooms that were leaky, a very were very leaky, had a very leaky and also , you know, leaky roof, and also, you know, some nights very early on in the club, you'd get kind of 80 kids watching an episode of eastenders in our tv room, which you couldn't swing. it kind you couldn't even swing. it kind of. was tiny. wow. so yeah, of. it was tiny. wow. so yeah, we've moved on from that we've kind of moved on from that building much nicer, building to a much nicer, fancier building. would be fancier building. so would it be fair you get that many

fair to say if you get that many kids, these all kids, these are not all necessarily kids who are really in it's a better it's in dire need, it's a better it's a warmer, more inclusive that, you you don't turn up you know, you don't turn up there you're literally there because you're literally being your stepdad. so being beaten by your stepdad. so i this this something i think this this is something that's quite , quite a that's actually quite, quite a nice let's go out for nice default. let's go out for a night out kind of place now. i think it's really important to acknowledge i grew up in acknowledge that i grew up in whitehall up whitehall and my dad grew up whitehall. know, it's a whitehall. you know, it's a really community so really lovely community in so many is also the many ways, but it is also the case . it is one of the 10% most case. it is one of the 10% most depnved case. it is one of the 10% most deprived areas in england and that's just the reality of people's lives people like, people's lives as people like, because, you know i mean, i live we live in hove and we're aware brighton and hove has some of the highest house prices outside of london you know, and yet right on well i suppose right on the well i suppose that's like london in itself isn't it. but there's a lot of kind of do gooders and well—intentioned individuals who vote know, and drive vote green, you know, and drive an range rover. but an electric range rover. but there's kind of thing is there's this kind of thing is actually what makes a bit more difference people's lives. difference to people's lives. i think. think just the think. i think it's just the thing crew club is thing about the crew club is

that continuity. it's that it's continuity. so it's been around for 24 years. the same people have run it and we all most of our employees are local. all of our volunteers are local. all of our volunteers are local. and so it's an organisation supported organisation that's supported multiple families multiple generations of families now. so there's an awful lot of trust in the organisation and what we do and we generally have the interests of local the best interests of local people heart because of people at heart because many of those are our own those local people are our own family , you know, family neighbours, you know, people that we've ourselves grown up around. so i feel privileged to work there. it's got particular way of working, got a particular way of working, which is really as which i think is really as wonderful well. i'm so pleased to be even like tenderly attracted the whole thing, so attracted to the whole thing, so wonderful day. thank you for coming on the show. do you have a website or anything? if people want and find more want to come and find out more about it get in touch with about it and get in touch with taylor, you come and visit taylor, you can come and visit offset. be ww dot crew offset. there'll be ww dot crew club dot uk and yet you know we have a great centre if you live in the brighton hove area, if you locally, you come you live locally, do you come a way for some really fabulous way off for some really fabulous activities people ages activities? people of all ages and come and have one of

and you can come and have one of jade's breakfast, which is fabulous. tell you i'm fabulous. i can tell you i'm going be there. yeah, i will going to be there. yeah, i will be there. and we'll do some cakes. very cakes. okay. thank you very much, kylie. up we have the papers at 1030 sharp with full panel action . my superstar panel action. my superstar panel panel action. my superstar panel, that great britain panel, give that great britain and union jack cash nominations. we'll see you in 3 minutes.

welcome back. it is 10:30 welcome back. it is10:30 p.m. welcome back. it is10:30 pm. and it is time for the papers hot the press lot out of the printer so time for a look at tomorrow morning's newspapers thank you are the day leigh mail is top of the pile cards for strong thinkers this is a key serious headline i am not sure i entirely understand it. you in barron's were accused last night of plotting a de facto strike in the new year they launched a

loyalty card designed to artificially swell the picket line numbers . peter this feels line numbers. peter this feels like in your wheelhouse . well, i like in your wheelhouse. well, i would start out because i want to take it down as as nonsense. it's not because it's a daily battle is because it doesn't stack up. and i've been on strike in my previous lives a newspaper reporter and did that reluctantly but anyone goes on strike does it because it's sad. they feel underpaid. i feel not being listened to and the idea that you go and support comrades overin that you go and support comrades over in the same industry or different industries and, then that becomes a de facto general strike is nonsense and know we've got a lot to cover tonight. one quick point. anyone who goes on strike gives up a day's pay , then they do that day's pay, then they do that again and again and again. and if anyone gets a tiny token or financial reward , it only financial reward, it only compensate a fraction of their day's pay. so it's not a loyalty card . it day's pay. so it's not a loyalty card. it might day's pay. so it's not a loyalty card . it might actually be card. it might actually be supporting your your fellow doctor, your fellow nurse , your

doctor, your fellow nurse, your fellow teacher. i have been made aware that i should have gone through the headlines in their entirety , but i'm glad that we entirety, but i'm glad that we got that out, and i think that was a very valid point. we'll just go through the rest of them very quickly. the times lead with cabinet row prevent anti—terror programme and i have a picture of rishi sunak and his christmas labrador there . as christmas labrador there. as mentioned in the very first intro, we also have blackmail alerts after employees are greeted sex workers hotel greeted by sex workers at hotel the telegraph have sandhurst urged to tackle toxic culture toxic culture at sandhurst and taylor swift. they're looking far from just on the other side to illustrate that police failed to illustrate that police failed to solve a million thefts in the past . they failed to solve any past. they failed to solve any test whatsoever. as far as i can tell, the guard even have challenges forced to shut up shop as hits funding a picture of some dragonflies or something which should not be appearing in our national trust gardens at

this time of the year. that's a global warming story. this time of the year. that's a global warming story . we have global warming story. we have the mirrorjunior global warming story. we have the mirror junior doctors strike fear and thrills family. please speak up. and matt hancock is still grimly holding onto his last 15 minutes of fame. the independent rescue workers battle fresh snow yesterday as the death from a freezing christmas weather passed 60. thatis christmas weather passed 60. that is very grim news from the northern continental united states. the food bank donations fall despite soon me of need as . a terrible metaphor, tsunami of need . but never mind. we get of need. but never mind. we get what they mean. trains strike set to escalate as union plans daily walkouts already covered that off, of course. and time for charles repair with harry and meghan according to a columnist, the sun has marcus and mason back of the . net these and mason back of the. net these two individuals of course did his very nearly proud in the world cup in qatar and clueless

cops dropped 1.1 million burglary theft cases in a year is no point whatsoever calling them financial times. finally, with a very picture that deadly storm brings chaos in the i don't know what that picture is. it looks like something absolutely horrific fi movie. something has frozen over that really shouldn't have beijing's scrapped travel quarantine rules firm break with zero covid policy that is big news and will hopefully start to ease the supply chain crisis. and jp morgan blah blah. so they are headune morgan blah blah. so they are headline so let's go back and go through them in some detail now now first one, let's take a look at the times cabinet over prevent and t terror programme . prevent and t terror programme. and if you have any with the preventing, it seems to be eternally controversial , isn't eternally controversial, isn't it ? i think that the issue is it? i think that the issue is that at the moment there are so many different stories rearing heads and really the only one

that everyone's concentrating on the economy now . the the economy now. the government's going to have to put kind of effort behind preventing type policy. but i don't think that the focusing on this story right now is more helpful and sort of does seem to have quite i don't know whether it's a happy mac or not, but she certainly seems to be able to put among pigeons, doesn't she ? put among pigeons, doesn't she? well, she does that quite deliberately , and she certainly deliberately, and she certainly has done about immigration. i really sometimes with immigration and she's toned her language down she had very very inflammatory language to start with and she's managed to turn that down now that's what i hope where gove stepped in because gove probably wouldn't have been seen as necessarily a safe pair of hands on these things. but i suppose it's relative. well i he's a much more measured individual. he's a very intelligent guy and he's a very able and more able politician and he's more measured he so? but measured. has he done so? but he's good person who, cares. he's a good person who, cares. chris going on to the telegraph

now, sandhurst to tackle toxic is that the last bastion toxic culture then a witch said my son now sent us false so yeah this is this is a tough one for me because the army changed for who all recognition from the organisation the ijaw in the 1975 and to the what the who you were in the army. no no assigned us no enlisted man. we go. yeah not a 75 i joint joined the british and i left in 1991. what sort of regiment so i started in royal signals and transfer gentlemen physical training corps for obvious reasons. amazing and that as a quartermaster instructor so chemistry was that we got the advice of young muslims that a career was done in the army amazing and run in heavy duty like that a shadow of a doubt i used to be my best people and tucker and he's with the guys running around you say i would never ask you to do anything i can't see will sell well i'm

going to the olympics next year going to the olympics next year go . oh these things i would go. oh these things i would imagine . no, there was the imagine. no, there was the fellow the czech runner , the fellow the czech runner, the legendary long distance. oh yeah. that was a yes. yes, that's correct. he used to train in in army boots . that's correct. he used to train in in army boots. he said that's correct. he used to train in in army boots . he said that in in army boots. he said that he used to train in the laundry , actually stamping down on the lost. i remember reading that he used to jump up and down on the sheets. but can i just say because i think is very important that we're seeing these stories now about people tackling the toxic culture of sexual harassment. and as a woman i get i do get a bit tired of this because a couple of weeks ago the report came out about harassment in the fire service. now i covered that story as a young journalist on the daily mail about the sexual harassment . a woman in soho fire harassment. a woman in soho fire station i hate to say it, 30 years ago because i'm an older nothing changes. years ago because i'm an older nothing changes . so we've got nothing changes. so we've got this headline of the daily telegraph now and it's just writing about it. and i was actually anything about it.

yeah, i don't know . actually anything about it. yeah, i don't know. i'm sure a lot has changed. i'm sure a lot has changed in the fire service in the army. it may not be perfect, but lots change. the army that i joined in the seventies bears, no resemblance . when it comes down to the culture and the inclusion and diversity of the army today , but diversity of the army today, but where the fire service is concerned, the stories that will put in that report are identical to the stories i covered as a fleet reporter in my mid—twenties. fleet reporter in my mid—twenties . but it's mid—twenties. but it's identical. the difference may be though there are one or two today where there were one or two every single day back the seventies. i think chris makes a very sensible because very sensible point because there prejudice , i there is still prejudice, i think all our society. think in all our society. chris's point is one is the scale of it. and secondly , and scale of it. and secondly, and the decision makers aware of it now? yeah but the report did say it was widespread yeah, there's a whole row about diversity . so a whole row about diversity. so but you know diversity officers are there to try and clamp down on these type of things ensure thatis on these type of things ensure that is as few as possible and

eventually to zero and now just looking at this, i could pick a couple of stories, the front page of the guardian and i quite interested this uk wildlife hating year weather extremes do feel are actually seeing feel that we are actually seeing crisis taking effect now , that crisis taking effect now, that we could that some years been this sort of sense that it's background noise there is as i was saying earlier you know there are certain events do there are certain events to do with it's on but we also with whether it's on but we also need to see now perhaps an actual change the in the in the in landscape the british in the landscape the british landscape that's affected by these yes, these things, i think. yes, definitely we say definitely true. yeah we say when you say true. so what is true is that climate change on the and that's been put the agenda and that's been put forward in front of our faces with a view to go somewhere but whether it's manmade or or and natural causes of ice ages, etc. we don't know that conversation is not being in public is very clear now as far as those in control, it's manmade and you can have less of this do more

that there certainly seems to be news one of the channels which does trying to encourage to both sides. i personally you know reason i'm not brilliantly well in the science but i'm reasonably convinced there is a lot of evidence . the odd thing lot of evidence. the odd thing is, though, it's unavoidably the case that most of the people who want to see the big initiatives would change the way we operate. we're kind of fed up with . they we're kind of fed up with. they were already kind of in favour of a massive redistribution of wealth to the global south. and so it's always just rather convenient. don't you think that there's this, you know, all kind of interlocking parts come the same agenda? don't same sort of agenda? i don't know. i mean? not know. do know what i mean? not really i'm sure if i may really. i'm not sure if i may come in on this. entirely fair. if you think about a meteorologist in a university with a ph.d. that goal is not to overthrow capitalism. their goal is to report what's happening. and as you rightly pointed out, since you will say this is for non meteorologists to sort of the temperatures are changing and to give two quick examples we all over the age of 40 you

know when was a child it wasn't 40 degrees in the summer and when i was a child, you had a couple of feet of snow. certainly in london. you don't really get these days. i do, except there's a lot you know, it's a different climate in aberdeen climate change is happening. i say it's manmade, but, you know, climate change has always happened. the fact of the matter is that in elizabethan times you used to be able to skate down the middle of the thames. it's always happens, always. but yeah, part of it is natural. it just what natural. part of it just what happens and part of it has to be incurred by us industrialisation. don't think industrialisation. i don't think anyone in their right mind would disagree . i definitely think disagree. i definitely do think that i've just my, my, my issue really is the programme we really is the programme which we must endorse , as chris must therefore endorse, as chris was which is this is the was saying, which is this is the only get out it. we only way can get out of it. we have last time one last headline to go, which is the, the catastrophe failure of the police force. is there point police force. is there any point to any these days it's to them any more these days it's almost burglary been almost if burglary has been decriminalised. well there is. but of resources but it's a question of resources

. the matter is, now . fact of the matter is, now that police officers have to go out with a nurse sometimes out with with a nurse sometimes in back a squad car, they in the back of a squad car, they get many suicide sighs, they get so many suicide sighs, they get so many suicide sighs, they get so many health issues , they get so many health issues, they have much to do with the so have so much to do with the so many agencies should be many other agencies should be stepping the force. stepping into the force. sometimes and the police are left carrying the can. the fact of the matter is, there's just enough in really enough resources in really limited resources include more but actually police , shall i but actually police, shall i say. but the abuse they get on the streets because of a lack of difference , a lack of respect in difference, a lack of respect in the uniform who wants to be a police person instead of being a politics, isn't it almost now , politics, isn't it almost now, but not quite one word. austerity yeah. yeah. you saying . that'll solve it. no, that's the sound. but it's not time for another break. but when we get back my panel will be revealing that great britain's and their union jackasses, we will see you very shortly . don't go away. very shortly. don't go away. it's our last break in a minute.

and welcome back to our final segment , the and welcome back to our final segment, the night. it's time to reveal today's greatest britain and our union. so let's see who my panel nominated. we go first to linda. who is your greatest? i think at the moment i'm really right. king charles, for you, because i think that he's on christmas day . very good. it has christmas day. very good. it has been for being a little bit anodyne a little bit too politically . but at the end of politically. but at the end of the day , i think that that the day, i think that that particular speech has to be quite carefully calibrated and he did a good job. he showed a lot of for people in very troubled times. and i think delivery was spot on, got much, much better at delivering as we can see from the one that he delivered shortly after his mother died. and i think he's hitting the mark. it might not set world alight, but i think he did job really diligently and

really i thoroughly agree in terms of it being anodyne. i saw earlier this very channel nigel farage and david starkey you were both speaking about it in improving terms. so seeing improving terms. so we're seeing both that. it is both sides of that. it is interesting, isn't it? how much more confident become a more confident he's become as a speaken more confident he's become as a speaker. used to of speaker. he used to sort of radiate lack confidence radiate a lack of confidence insecurity. brandreth , who insecurity. gyles brandreth, who was a sort of biographer individual last week, it really interesting, actually, what had to say about the royal family on because he's got quite an intimate so his book which i've read recently is really worth buying because it's an intimate portrait of the queen but it's really interesting to see his perspective because . it's very perspective because. it's very different to any other book has come out lately and it will be very discreet. he spoke on about saying that philip always had extraordinary confidence and as soon as he finished speech, he could write it all through. now, you he good. how do you know, he was good. how do you know, he was good. how do you went. yeah and we you think went. yeah and we people who have you going for and for the are winning for national household national effort every household it's the ukraine

it's taken in the ukraine refugee and the reason i said thatis refugee and the reason i said that is because there was a lot of publicity when the scheme started and of course sadly is abouti started and of course sadly is about i think about 8 million ukrainians displaced across the entire of yeah, entire continent of yeah, britain has done its fair and i think and there was a lot of pubuchy think and there was a lot of publicity to start but these households still going on there's a financial challenge and accommodating people space change need to make people feel welcome i'm sure have been tough times, but lots of show. the food bank, the pub church has covered community. yeah and this is another great example of that. it's true that people sometimes underestimate how tncky is sometimes underestimate how tricky is going to be people tricky it is going to be people a slightly rosy view of it and then and then encounter it and then and then encounter it and then they adapt learn from anyone yeah yeah. and i imagine you eventually probably this honour at some point greatest britain for a matter of a few hours at least in certain games that go ahead . so i've chosen that go ahead. so i've chosen the army forces i like the standard procedures, military

aged , civil, civil authorities . aged, civil, civil authorities. and when the country needed them they stepped up border control , they stepped up border control, border force control. they'll be fair , friendly, effective, fair, friendly, effective, efficient the delivery they deliver the job each time, every time. and things haven't been any smoother . and i just love any smoother. and i just love the way that my erstwhile colleagues , you know, they they colleagues, you know, they they prepare to the nth degree they've had on the job training they've had on the job training the last couple of weeks and they've stood up and tipicamente it and they delivered it here. bravo. well got to say, all three very worthy. and i thoroughly endorse your choice of king charles, even though it still sounds bizarre to say words. but i still have to think twice and god save the king and the armed forces. obviously always a source of pride. i'm going to go for the those who house ukrainians for the simple reason that we've had ourselves house ukrainians for the simple reaandthat we've had ourselves house ukrainians for the simple reaand off: we've had ourselves house ukrainians for the simple reaand off fore've had ourselves house ukrainians for the simple rea and off for a e had ourselves house ukrainians for the simple rea and off for a fewnd ourselves house ukrainians for the simple rea and off for a few in ourselves house ukrainians for the simple rea and off for a few in a rselves house ukrainians for the simple reaand off for a few in a run.'es on and off for a few in a run. this for you vlad it's been honestly absolutely charming. he's been a role model to my

kids and a source of great satisfaction . my wife . but satisfaction. my wife. but seriously he's wonderful . and if seriously he's wonderful. and if you do get a chance, as i say, recognise it's not always going to be like a bed of roses, but it's satisfying. linda your union jack has not that i think that totally disrespectful, but ihave that totally disrespectful, but i have nominated . i didn't come i have nominated. i didn't come up with the issue . it's up with the issue. it's important because i feel a bit nervous . i'm important because i feel a bit nervous. i'm going to say prince andrew and it's quite extraordinary really that you would have the britain in the same family as andrew's. i think has behaved a bismillah and i know that he has been censured . know that he has been censured. i know that he's lost his titles , military titles. i know that last week he was apparently told to leave palace, but i cannot understand why anyone in that position just didn't exist . more

position just didn't exist. more judgement across the whole year and a couple these. so this is and a couple these. so this is an aphrodisiac. yeah yeah i think so. yeah. because was in the news this morning for telling somebody to stand on newspaper to keep feet warm, possibly erratic. but it didn't strike me as well, which i think is erratic. i think it's entirely consistent with everything else we've seen. but entirely consistent with ethink|ing else we've seen. but entirely consistent with ethink whatlse we've seen. but entirely consistent with ethink what triggered seen. but entirely consistent with ethink what triggered see|mind i think what triggered my mind this was there was quite a lot of coverage of the new play that's going in london about that's going on in london about the maitlis interview, the emily maitlis interview, prince and think that the emily maitlis interview, prtriggered and think that the emily maitlis interview, prtriggered something�*nink that the emily maitlis interview, prtriggered something in k that the emily maitlis interview, prtriggered something in myiat it triggered something in my mind and i think he definitely for me belongs in that that that interview will as one of the great toe curling incidents i think my toenails had to be extracted surgically from the bull's. but what was she just she all she all emily to do was let him say and he just taught himself a corner. peter and i don't like calling people a jackass. it seems very unkind to even more so at christmas . but even more so at christmas. but in terms of someone i feel let down by steve barclay, the health secretary but i don't

want to make anything party political but if there's a pay dispute nurses and you go dispute with nurses and you go into a negotiation or into a pay negotiation or negotiation without pay off, then it's going to fail. i then it's not going to fail. i think perhaps he's put ideology before patient safety. yeah. and this is going to be this is a lot worse. the railways, isn't it? mean, you know, people can it? i mean, you know, people can be dis obliged by a fire cancelled railway service. so you know, apparently we all overestimate how important it is. i was reading recently something like 6% of journeys in the uk are taken the railways these days they're nothing like as crucial our to the smooth as crucial to our to the smooth functioning of the economy times we live depends way hospitals and nurses and ambulance drivers. i mean this is this is a very very serious blow to the government credibility. and of course there is a safety element in the dispute as well. of in the rail dispute as well. of course, any withdrawal course, with any withdrawal of services, and services, if it's safety and health care . absolutely you're health care. absolutely you're forefront of the dispute . and i forefront of the dispute. and i think it's very sad. but most importantly i think it's an avoidable strike. well, and chris, i imagine you're going to

bnng chris, i imagine you're going to bring a bit of facetious. chris, i imagine you're going to bring a bit of facetious . will bring a bit of facetious. will these guys i don't like the term , but they get that it's your show . i know you're not, but show. i know you're not, but i've gone for david moyes . we i've gone for david moyes. we kill me. but he's a west ham manager and west ham have had an all for 2022. we've had five wins at 23 games, 19 points, 23 games in the season was won in a calendar year. we would be down whatever off to the world cup. he's had six weeks to get our team sorted out. and the definition of insanity is doing the same thing, expecting different results. we played arsenal a fantastic arsenal who have a fantastic season in the last a second season and in the last a second row absolutely fell apart because the way we're playing we cannot play too and sorry david i know you were mad when someone called you moyes . well he took called you moyes. well he took your team he took the irons into semi—final didn't he . so when he

semi—final didn't he. so when he came when he came we were in dire . and then manager dire. and then manager pellegrini he had got 29 points out of the last 19 games. he's got 23 so we're even worse. he's doing all this off just off the memory of, you know , oliver. but memory of, you know, oliver. but if i did that, it's because, you know, to are you on absolutely the last 24 hours it's absolutely exploded if you are the west ham fans absolutely it was going mad because as david moyes because i remember him i'm not a big football fan but he was one of the guys who came in in the aftermath of alex ferguson and failed. yeah. yeah, exactly. well he had success somewhere though. he do somewhere as well, though. he do a and he did lot at a lot and he did a lot at everton and then tried make a noise that didn't give him enough went to sunderland enough time, went to sunderland town, went out to buy that. thank you very much. i think it was so you can come to the

surface what you gave labels, you know . i have a lot of surface what you gave labels, you know. i have a lot of time with this that had a couple of years of us for liverpool is a son is a son of a lady from merseyside us for liverpool. wonderful. well i am going this is an extraordinarily difficult obviously prince andrew obviously i think prince andrew has been the jackass of has been perhaps the jackass of the but but think he's the year but but i think he's not been too bad this and not been too bad this week. and i it would be harsh to i think it would be harsh to pick out barkley it is a pick out barkley as it is a little part political. so little bit part political. so i'm going to go with david moyes. just like a jackass moyes. he's just like a jackass to some these to take take and he looks looks cross with me . he looks looks cross with me. you're in trouble. there it is thatis you're in trouble. there it is that is that is it. and i got to say with football might be surprised this year is how well the world i mean i don't want to like paint over the human rights abuses or whatever pretend it didn't happen just when it was a lot more enjoyable as a festival of football i thought we of football than i thought we expected. of people put expected. a lot of people put that fact there was that down to the fact there was no alcohol in the stadium

interest in england won the fair play and there the fans play award and there the fans were least arrested. i think were the least arrested. i think it's of the it's probably because of all the gay l it's probably because of all the gay i really gay phone calls and i really drunk so i think i mean i think the final though bill played its part it amazing man part it was an amazing man amazing the most extraordinary final seen . the first final i've ever seen. the first 80 or so. was pretty 80 minutes or so. it was pretty was one way traffic wasn't it. was a one way traffic wasn't it. we could see it was to be wrapped up. this was going to be argentina. i think would argentina. i think france would be i didn't in the be a menace, but i didn't in the first team, one whom i to see somebody trying to get in on the action know that fellow is action you know that fellow is like messi then like pestering messi but then equally macron trying equally emmanuel macron trying to being to comfort mbappe being completely ignored is the one year when footballers just completely ignore . well, what completely ignore. well, what did you think of world cup in the middle of winter? i think worse i think blokes like to go and see football in the past they've allegations of corruption how many migrant workers dead. i love this is a betrayal of football's . yeah betrayal of football's. yeah i agree with you it it shouldn't have been held that they should have been held that they should have made the decision on not to go there. wouldn't have had

go there. then wouldn't have had all would be all this kerfuffle would be shouldn't there was shouldn't have. there was corruption. it was about corruption. greed. it was about greed . fair enough. that greed. fair enough. on that note, greed , greed, terror by note, greed, greed, terror by peter chris so much simon watching folks it's been a debut for it's been an absolute pleasure i will be headliners my usual gig in just a few moments same jacket same shirt same glasses . it will basically be glasses. it will basically be the same gig, but it's a different show. so stay with us through this next break. stay with us , gb news. and i'll see with us, gb news. and i'll see you in a couple of minutes. headune you in a couple of minutes. headline is thank you very much and good night looking to tomorrow's weather and the will see cold frosty start for see a cold and frosty start for many but turning the many but turning wetter the west. details west. here are the details a cold and icy morning across northern scotland with sleet and snow showers turning cloudy as rain and hill snow arrives from the south turning windy to a wet morning across northern ireland with brisk winds developing . the with brisk winds developing. the rain could be heavy at times leading to some tricky travelling conditions as cloud amounts increasing tuesday morning across northern england

. the wind picking up too icy stretches around first thing as the cold lingers, a cloudy , damp the cold lingers, a cloudy, damp morning for wales and the liverpool bay area as moves in from the west . the rain turning from the west. the rain turning heavy as the morning progresses, temperatures rising after a cold start . apache frost across the start. apache frost across the midlands tuesday morning, but temperatures quickly as clouds spread in from west. the risk of rain arriving as the morning progresses with the winds increasing to a cold and frosty start . many across east anglia start. many across east anglia tomorrow with some morning sunshine cloud amounts increasing from the west as the morning moves on with . rain morning moves on with. rain arriving later . a chilly start arriving later. a chilly start to the day across southern with the best of any morning in the east. clouds increasing as the morning progresses turning windy too, with rain later a wet and windy weather will continue eastwards through the day with snow falling over temperatures on the mild for many.

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