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gb news i'm michael. join me on gb news on a sunday morning for topical discussion debate , arts and discussion debate, arts and culture and sometimes even ethical dilemmas. i don't always agree with you, michael. michael sundays on tv news. the people's channel. news . channel. news. channel a very good afternoon, everybody. you're with me patrick christys right here on gb news. it's a big day today because is the true extent of the terrorist threat being hidden from a 6000 people a year apparently referred to the anti extremism programme prevent for report anything that prevent programme has delayed because maybe there are fears that some groups may be offended and take legal action. lots to that. it comes amid other reports that
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the police has not sold more than i million burglaries. so we already have concerns over. terror and law and order took contend with on this show. but what about border force, more officers on strike aside from travel plans, what does this mean for national security? talking of national security , talking of national security, have employees being compromised by drinking too much and getting up to no good on foreign trips? they at risk of blackmail and the money in your pocket or lack of it frankly some families could be paying 96% tax 9 to 6% staggering. oh a come i'm much much more ryan gbviews@gbnews.uk is the email address i want to hear from you on a couple of topics that i should the prevent report be published in full are too afraid of offending some of the muslim community and. should we more police officers in we have more police officers in the force gives gbnews.uk but before that issue less headlines . an
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before that issue less headlines. an roberts in the gb newsroom it's 3:01 two men have been arrested on. suspicion of murder in connection with the stabbing of a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub. semi—pro footballer cody fisher was stabbed to death on the dance floor , the cray nightclub on floor, the cray nightclub on boxing day . hundreds of people boxing day. hundreds of people were there at the time. his family say their hearts were broken following his death . west broken following his death. west midlands police say a 22 year old was arrested in birmingham city centre last night whilst a 21 year old man was arrested in london . border force staff and london. border force staff and driving examiners are the latest to stage industrial action . to stage industrial action. members of the pcc union working at multiple uk airports are continuing their strike over pay, continuing their strike over pay, jobs and conditions. driving examiners have begun five day walkout affecting more than 70 testing centres in. the east of england and the midlands . meanwhile, on the rail network, union members are on strike, causing disruption of .
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strike, causing disruption of. the great western railway and. west midlands trains. downing is urging unions and employers to reach an agreement. independent's travel correspondent calder told itv news public support is waning . news public support is waning. we got this awful message from the rmt union on christmas eve saying, where's the ministers we want to talk to them. i think there is sense that talking to individual men and women, those the frontline, doing fantastic work , they're exhausted. they work, they're exhausted. they have lost hundreds, sometimes thousands pounds. the idea is this an essential industry . this an essential industry. trouble is, the travelling pubuc trouble is, the travelling public sort of saying, no, you're pope francis has asked for prayers for his predecessor, former pope benedict, saying he's very . the vatican says pope he's very. the vatican says pope had a sudden worsening of in recent hours. but condition is under control and he's receiving constant medical care. the 95 year old former head of the catholic became the first pope
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in 600 years to resign when he stepped down in 2030. go to carry the football. i would like to ask all of you for special prayer for pope emeritus , who in prayer for pope emeritus, who in silence is sustaining the church. let us. remember him? he is very asking the lord to console sustain him in this witness of love for the church . witness of love for the church. until the end . religious until the end. religious journalist luke summerville says . the vatican is now in unchartered territory. if pope benedict die will be the very first time that a pope die . an first time that a pope die. an emirate pope. the pope , pope emirate pope. the pope, pope emeritus ii in the vatican. so it will be all new. we don't know exactly if the vatican is prepared. we don't know exactly what will be organised and how
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the government says it's urgently seeking information . urgently seeking information. reports that a number of uk iranian dual nationals have been detained in iran . the iranian detained in iran. the iranian revolutionary guard says it has arrested seven individuals with direct links to the uk due to the alleged involvement in anti—government proto . as anti—government proto. as a number ten spokesperson and has rejected , the uk is inciting rejected, the uk is inciting within the country. and called on iran to stop foreign nationals for diplomat attack leverage . the north—east of leverage. the north—east of england be the latest region to have a directly elected mayor as the government announces a £14 billion devolution deal . the billion devolution deal. the arrangement would give powers over education, transport and housing to people across newcastle and sunderland . newcastle and sunderland. elections for the new mayor could take place in may 2024, after a consultation process . in
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after a consultation process. in the us. the number of people who've died in the city of buffalo has risen to 32 as the country continues to battle a deadly storm. authority is in the new york state. have been digging out vehicles from four feet of snow after a record amount of snowfall there. at least people have died nationwide and as the monster storm has battered north america over last week . meanwhile, here over last week. meanwhile, here in the uk, provisional figures the met office show this year has been warmest on record. by the end of the year, 2022 will have seen the highest annual average temperature . that's average temperature. that's a record set in 2014 of just under ten degrees celsius . the met ten degrees celsius. the met office says everyone apart from december has been than average . december has been than average. this is gb news. this will bring you more news as it happens. of course. now back to .
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course. now back to. patrick okay, people , here we go. so okay, people, here we go. so it's been reported that a longer an overhaul of the government's counter program has been delayed because of a cabinet row between suella braverman and michael gove. here's why. according to the times , home secretary has the times, home secretary has probably made is ready to pubush probably made is ready to publish the independent review of the prevent programme and accepts all of his recommendations. it is expected to criticise a number organisations and highlight some prevent funded groups have been in their views anyway. promoting narratives. well, the up secretary, that's michael gove is supposedly not buying into it and basically wants it to be presented in full but including naming those the home office supposedly fearful that that could lead to lawsuits . but the could lead to lawsuits. but the one republic i think will be
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concerned because until this report is published, then what it suggests can't really put into place and therefore all we at more risk of terror attacks and are we too afraid? dare i say it, of offending some groups in this country in order to pubush in this country in order to publish it? i imagine that go down quite badly with you people at home or listening, your cards or whatever you're doing. vaiews@gbnews.uk let's get stuck into the finer points of this now. it is a bit complex. we'll pick through. joining me now in the studio is internet panel security border panel security and border control henry control expert. it's henry bolton. there row bolton. henry. is there a row over this? over good read. over. as can tell, there is as far as i can tell, there is genuine fear of some islamic and thatis genuine fear of some islamic and that is stopping this report being in full. i think that's it in a nutshell, patrick. look you did say at the beginning that this is what the papers are reporting. it's not row in the cabinet between michael gove and suella braverman . it's not. suella braverman. it's not. what's happened that the report is ready for publication the home office has recommended the home office has recommended the home secretary that this that it should not be published with . as
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should not be published with. as you said earlier, the names some individuals and organise including organisations that oversee prevent programme funding with those in because the home office civil servant are concerned this might expose the home office to legal action , particularly because . one of , particularly because. one of those . one of the things being those. one of the things being mentioned in the report is that some of those organisations who have received that funding from the government, from prevent have actually promoting extremism. and this is a key point and it is why i want to drill you have now said drill down. you have now said that programme that prevent programme apparently a £40 apparently anyway has a £40 million we all that million budget. we all that prevention designed to help stop terrorism. prevent programme terrorism. the prevent programme has come under criticism though because frankly because there have been frankly numerous and we numerous terror attacks and we all things like that all know things like that happened. westminster all know things like that happen�*the westminster all know things like that happen�*the particular;tminster all know things like that happen�*the particular chapster all know things like that happen�*the particular chap who bridge. the particular chap who actually of actually as part of a de—radicalize station scheme as well, the who was taken down with a novel task well on the bndge with a novel task well on the bridge and, the manchester arena bombing, for example all of these different attacks now also
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been a couple of fall rise extremism attacks . the concern extremism attacks. the concern as far as i understand it, henry, is that there are groups potentially islamic groups, who have been accused in this report anyway of active evilly promoting extremism and they don't want to name them just in case it makes them a bit angry. well in case that they then take a libel against the home office. well, to honest, if the government has its due government has done its due diligence and, part of its due diligence and, part of its due diligence is to provide this review that's been done, then indeed needs to actually indeed it needs to actually grasp the nettle and say this is what the report has found . we're what the report has found. we're going publish it and. let going to publish it and. let these people take us on for libel. let them prove that they're not doing what we think they're not doing what we think they are in court. i don't i think call it bluff. but the point is that this is what michael gove is saying. michael i'm no fan of . michael gove is saying. michael i'm no fan of. michael michael gove is saying. michael i'm no fan of . michael gove by i'm no fan of. michael gove by the way , i am quite a fan of the way, i am quite a fan of suella braverman suella braverman is it just want to the report out there but michael gove seen a draft of this and
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said look, i think we should not be redact these names. i think , be redact these names. i think, they should be out there is part of the reports of the transparency the report it's part of what's going to keep us safe. and i think it needs to be out there. and if these people don't like it, we should not be afraid and that is the afraid of it. and that is the knocks it. that is that knocks of it. and that is that the home office civil servants are afraid of upsetting people that this is effectively saying constitute a threat to the uk national security and that is a very worrying place for civil war whilst it's important that various groups do engage with the prevent programme and the prevent scheme in order to help combat terrorism and we would want to lose those groups and their cooperation at the same , their cooperation at the same, it is a vital part of press freedom and i would argue as well, public knowledge on security to know who the groups are that are at least accused , are that are at least accused, at least accused anyway of actively use , prevent money and
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actively use, prevent money and still extremism , because that still extremism, because that does pose a risk to the british pubuc. does pose a risk to the british public . know does pose a risk to the british public. know if you if you hide this , even if it's still this, even if it's still information that's available to certain people, if you hide it, then you are reducing the effectiveness it. now i'm going to say something a little bit contentious. i'm a former police officer and back 25 years ago chief constable says were quite open about you know what in this area certain communities have a propensity towards different types of crime . it might be this types of crime. it might be this the white caucasian community if you like the english that do this or it might another community that does that or something but but then we started to see chief constables being sacked for saying that yes, it was absolutely the truth and there are various dynamics behind why that happens . it's behind why that happens. it's a fact of policing and criminality . and if you pretend it exist ,
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. and if you pretend it exist, then you fail to address it. and that's what i about this and i fear the culture in the home office that's saying let's hide , let's paper over because it might be more grief than the british public , i think possibly british public, i think possibly now more so than ever with what's been going on in the china, what's been going on in migrant the terror migrant hotels, the terror threats general all feel as threats in general all feel as though also being lied though they are also being lied to, or at the very least being asked accept something that asked to accept something that they can see going on with their own eyes and they're being asked to something different. to accept something different. i'm going to read you i'm just going to read you a quote now from a source close to the author this report, the the author of this report, the counter—terror prevent, as the author of this report, the couthat -terror prevent, as the author of this report, the couthat iserror prevent, as the author of this report, the couthat is not prevent, as the author of this report, the couthat is not being1t, as the author of this report, the couthat is not being published; yet that is not being published. he said , or a source close to he said, or a source close to him said there is widespread and happiness . the approach of the happiness. the approach of the home office saying we can't say this all that's organisations redacting them, removing bits. apparently there is frustration and he's not buying the excuses this smacks of a cover up smacks of cowardice . patrick if you if
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of cowardice. patrick if you if are are more afraid of upsetting people's feelings and having an argument then of doing the right thing when it comes to national security, you shouldn't be in the job that you're in and michael gove is i think absolutely right on this he is not accepting the excuses from the home office civil servants . the home office civil servants. he is not to prepared let this lie. i hope at the moment looks as though he's not and suella braverman hasn't commented as far as i know. but this is the servants saying we should redact that michael gove saying it doesn't involve suella braverman as such yet, but she's going to have to step into something like 6000 people year are 6000 people a year are reportedly to the prevent programme , which is a staggering programme, which is a staggering behind it's huge number one of the problems of that is it's like many things, a lot of complaints and referrals of to these sort of things are are sort of malicious you've got to go through all of those levels . go through all of those levels. also a case of a particular a boy in a school one time who
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said that you ukip he was referred to the prevent programme so you'd have to say that 6000 just couldn't . but it that 6000 just couldn't. but it is a large number, but it's like many things. if government's going to do something, it needs to properly it it's often to properly it and it's often failed in doing that. you mentioned borders earlier. there's yes the there's classic example. yes the other thing that needs to be said about prevent said about the prevent programme, it's you said at the beginning that it's all it's been from the been criticised widely from the beginning. one of the reasons is because there has not been proper engagement from the muslim community and the that that's been a funding and weakness and i'm sorry but the primary to this country comes from islamic extremism terms of terrorism it doesn't come from the right it doesn't come from the right it doesn't come from the left. we've cases of left wing terrorism and europe was in the seventies . it was the the seventies. it was the predominant form of terrorism in europe and what is bottom line, wolfgang? and so yeah, and we do have some right wing terrorism. that's true but the predominant
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threat is the idea logical threat is the idea logical threat from religious extremists . that's what this report is this is what prevent is about. and we need to be full and frank recognising what the weaknesses are . and i think members of the are. and i think members of the pubuc are. and i think members of the public there who are right be concerned and they all right to be concerned about the increase of far right extremism . and this of far right extremism. and this is not some kind of caveat that gets me trouble for saying what i want to say about the level of islamist extremism that a islamist extremism that just a fact. okay far right extremists made up a quarter of all referrals to prevent and overtook islamist referrals for the first time in the year of march 2021. so that is a fact . march 2021. so that is a fact. okay. however, at the same time islamist extremism is by far and away the main focus of the prevent scheme is the main focus of the majority of terrorists who are in prisons in the uk at the moment. and some would regard it as the more active, pressing threat in terms of
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imminent terror attacks as well. and if certain groups with connections alleged connections to islamist extremism are being protected from being in a report, i think that the british pubuc report, i think that the british public would possibly have a to be very angry about that. i wonder why why they are being seen very much protection , seen very much protection, patrick. and this is my concern it is lack of boldness. it's cowardice they don't want to upset these people . it's not upset these people. it's not that they're protecting . they that they're protecting. they just don't want to upset them . just don't want to upset them. that's that's that's a serious problem . it says a lot for the problem. it says a lot for the social situation in the uk and indeedit social situation in the uk and indeed it does. henry bolton, you very, very much in social security i'm border control expert. right well moving on from counter—terrorism and law and order because uk police been criticised for leaving more than 1 million cases of theft and burglary in. england and wales last unanswered unaccounted for the proportion of crimes that concluded a charge is also down to just 5.4, which is i think most people would agree concept
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shockingly low number. well, the shadow home secretary, yvette coopen shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has branded the figures disgraceful there is more to this than meets the eye as ever. and joining me to discuss this right now is tony hampshire police crime commissioner police and crime commissioner john, very let's john, thank you very much. let's just head initially , just tackle head on initially, the british public will see these numbers at, 1 million burglaries left on 1 million crimes like that left unsolved. and will think, well, and they will think, well, actually, not being actually, i'm not being protected police force. protected by my police force. what's two what's going on? well two things, patrick. first of all, there has been a slight increase in particularly in robbery . so in particularly in robbery. so teenagers often boys being robbed by other teenage boys. in fact, actually , rates have come fact, actually, rates have come down. but i do share concern that there is not a high enough solving in charge rates across england and wales , as per the england and wales, as per the statistics that we've seen today in the national media. now this is in part because three or four years ago. there a new policing protocol that was brought in and it's called crime data . and
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it's called crime data. and that's where you report a crime. you ask at the time of being interviewed by a police officer , have you ever been a victim of? any similar type of crime in the past? and if you say, yes, they have to log every single incident now . i could be incident now. i could be a victim of robbery or theft or burglary today. i may not want you to investigate . that you to investigate. that happened to me. three, four, five years ago. but i'm telling you because you've asked me. so that's what's made the crime rates, the crime increase look like been a massive spike in crime when in fact there hasn't been. crime when in fact there hasn't been . but there are there been. but there are there certainly a concern for me as a police and crime commissioner with us not enough crimes. that is definitely real. reading between the lines now obviously several thousand think he was 20,000 is the figure police officers were one way or another acts under theresa may and then i'm looking at some of the stats here shows that one of the main reasons why they couldn't find what had to drop cases into . the
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what had to drop cases into. the 1,145,254 theft and burglaries is they couldn't find a suspect supposedly . and then i'm reading supposedly. and then i'm reading here as well, about 300,000 violent crimes they were dropped, 2 million inquiries were dropped with no identified. and i'm wondering whether or not this is police not being able do their basic job which is frankly hunt down a suspect . well hunt down a suspect. well i think it's first of all it's not additional historical reporting which is skewing the figures, which is skewing the figures, which not helpful. but secondly , yes, we don't have enough cops in britain right now. and that's why the concern , if governments why the concern, if governments pledge 20,000 additional police officers, which as you say, is in a large way is we're keeping some of those police officers that were cut throughout austerity when . britain was austerity when. britain was trying to live within its means . is going recouping . so that is going recouping some of those police officers were previously cut. now, as you said , shadow home secretary said, shadow home secretary robert cooper has out today to say that the labour party , if say that the labour party, if they the next government or they form the next government or will increase number of police officers by 13,000 additional
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cops. now know that the conservative government going to say exactly the same thing , the say exactly the same thing, the lead up to the next general election. they're trying to pick the conservative government to the conservative government to the post here. what i am concerned with event cooper's pledge today is we know that a new police officer costs pledge today is we know that a new police officer cost s £50,000 new police officer costs £50,000 a it's around 24, new police officer costs £50,000 a year. it's around 24 , £25,000 a year. it's around 24, £25,000 of a salary, 31% own costs with their pension employees and all that training , that kit, that training, that kit, everything else . so as police everything else. so as police and crime commissioners, we around and crime commissioners, we aroun d £50,000 a year now, around £50,000 a year now, 30,000 cops that ms. cooper is announced today's the labour pledge will cost hundred an d £50 pledge will cost hundred and £50 million. now the way that she's that she will pay for this is through improving procurement amongst police forces. well would average out the 43 police forces in england and wales but averages to just over forces in england and wales but averages to just ove r £50 averages to just over £50 million per police force. now, i can tell you if there was 15 million quid to be saved in procurement with other police forces, i'd doing it. i worked in banking. that was my
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profession before got involved profession before i got involved yeah, before became a police yeah, before i became a police crime commissioner. is . crime commissioner. there is. not 650 million quids worth of savings we made across the country from procurement only we already have a company called blue light commercial. already have a company called blue light commercial . the home blue light commercial. the home office sets it off. a couple of years ago i was a director of a sub on the border that until july year we already july this year we already procuring things such procuring and buying things such as , uniforms, police as tasers kits, uniforms, police calls what are you doing? this stuff. so what we've sadly got here again is uncosted undeliverable and i just think not very well thought policy by labour yet again like donna but all over again. well i about to say yeah you can imagine abbott doing the numbers on that but that said the british public i think argue that there is think could argue that there is no money out there potentially the money is being spent in different. is perhaps different. there is perhaps a certain won't get you to certain irony i won't get you to comment this perhaps it comment on this but perhaps it says that the security says only that the security of the in seems to be the people in kyiv seems to be looked with a blank chat. looked after with a blank chat. but of someone in but the security of someone in shropshire derbyshire or shropshire or, derbyshire or luton doesn't appear be might be treated same vigour,
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treated with the same vigour, but think that we should but do you think that we should all society be all areas society now be spending more recruits in spending more money recruits in our force because i think our police force because i think we massive recruiting we need a massive recruiting thing, given fact thing, especially given fact that labour london mayor that a labour london mayor actually seems to be doing the ap. for police, calling the a.p. for the police, calling the more racist and misogynist etc. yeah, i do. i do think we should be paying them a little bit more as they're starting salary. i think to look at the way think we need to look at the way that pensions are that police pensions are calculated at the moment police. officers cannot realise that pension at 30 years and then carry on working in policing so they often go work and security or they go off and work in some other in the mod police we are losing hundreds of years of experience every single with cops retiring at 5050 152 years of age they've got to get a good ten, 15 years worth of work them before they would properly want to . so need to look to retire. so we do need to look at that. i've spoken home at that. i've spoken the home secretary that direct secretary about that direct already. i do think already. but yes, i do think that. we do need more police. i do very welcome any do very much welcome any political parties to increase the of police officers on
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the number of police officers on the number of police officers on the of britain. and i'm the streets of britain. and i'm very much looking forward to the conservative party, i hope, unveiling similar. conservative party, i hope, unveiling similar . well, unveiling that similar. well, they're to have to do they're going to have to do they're going to have to do they're to because they're going to have to because at minute there is a slight at the minute there is a slight hope goal for labour, not least because it's always in because it's always been in power that anything power so long so that anything bad should be pinned bad out should be pinned on them, looking them, but also labour looking like cooper to steal like if fact cooper to steal a bit of a march and talk about re re funding the police which is not us because we've had a conversation about in year conversation about in past year but thank you very much but donald thank you very much tony police and tony jones, hampshire police and crime couple crime commissioner. now a couple of ones for that he's of big ones for that he's talking of the talking to at the top of the show. ladies and gentlemen vaiews@gbnews.uk. in a nutshell, really, of them nutshell, really, both of them involving safety on the involving public safety on the streets when it comes to terrorism. of terrorism. are we too afraid, of reporting report into the reporting a report into the prevent for fear of prevent scheme for fear of offending certain elements of the community? imagine offending certain elements of the go community? imagine offending certain elements of the go down unity? imagine offending certain elements of the go down badly, imagine offending certain elements of the go down badly, but agine that will go down badly, but also why oh why are police in this country failing solve this country failing to solve things million thefts not things like a million thefts not even find a suspect even able to find a suspect gives gbnews.uk. when come gives gbnews.uk. when i come back , it's another day of back, it's another day of strikes across the border force staff, rail workers, even driving examiners are all
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driving test examiners are all walking out. i'm keen to hear from you this affect you have treated the driving test examiners so maybe examiners at this stage so maybe i'm maybe they do do i'm mean i'm maybe they do do a more vital job than i give them credit for. next, we will be credit for. up next, we will be discussing impacts those discussing the impacts of those border staff walkouts as. they actually a actually make much of a difference that's .
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next welcome back, everybody. right now . border force staff at now. border force staff at britain's largest airports resumed industrial action today , although you might be forgiven for not particularly noticing it in first place, according to in the first place, according to some. stuck in to that some. we'll get stuck in to that in minute. a thousand members in a minute. a thousand members of commercial of the public on commercial services union are striking for four until new is even to four days until new is even to be replaced by. those particular individuals , if you're watching
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individuals, if you're watching on television, it looks like someone pumped an army costume full of custard. but there we go. union leaders have warned the carry on for the dispute could carry on for six if government six months if the government refuses me refuses negotiate. joining me now saunders , former now is kevin saunders, former border chief. kevin great border force chief. kevin great to have you on the show. look, i'm a fan of border force. i've always been saying we need more of and i've been saying of them. and i've been saying that be allowed to that they need to be allowed to do job more properly. but do theirjob more properly. but in case, the reports in this case, the reports already so far is the disruption to being at work to them not being at work actually minimal ? yes so it actually been minimal? yes so it seems to be so right. it would seems to be so right. it would seem that the government have got away with this. i know that some people came through one airport line. they got in a row and were through the arrival night their bags with i'd say, minutes, probably something of a record. yeah is this my concern with this is that there have been people are being waved through and that is damaging national. but there doesn't appear to be any problem with
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that and it does now lead to the question of what's the of question of what's the point of the strike only solidified the case maybe are paid a fair case that maybe are paid a fair wage for. what they do which might be a lot. right well, might be not a lot. right well, first of all, patrick, nobody has been waved through every passport has been scanned . so passport has been scanned. so there is no no issue there. it's very easy to scan it. there is no no issue there. it's very easy to scan it . and any very easy to scan it. and any information that you need comes up on the screen in front of and anybody can deal with that . the anybody can deal with that. the military people will not be doing the more more involved people from abroad . they'll people from abroad. they'll probably be only handling brits which is probably 95% of the traffic anyway . so yeah, but traffic anyway. so yeah, but border force to go away with it this time round. but border force to go away with it this time round . but that surely this time round. but that surely is bad for the border force union who are saying we are so vital you that if we walk off
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you are going to have to pay those loads more me are pay demands. otherwise off for good. the government might be looking at this now and going, well, i'll tell you what, why don't you go off for good? because things have up. i things have sped up. yes. i mean, that is that's a valid point. and the thing is, the only the pieces to come out, the immigration service union, which represent 20% border force staff , are not on strike . so you've , are not on strike. so you've got that 20% anyway. that's so . got that 20% anyway. that's so. if they were out as well, you would have a lot, lot more of a problem and of course , come problem and of course, come sorry if you've got all that you out as well that you would have a lot bigger problem . could we a lot bigger problem. could we now know use this is a good example of why we restructure our border force and some of these people who i'm not trying to diminish what they do. i am just going off what i can see whose absence is not really any
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problems whatsoever . in fact, problems whatsoever. in fact, might have made the whole situation a lot better and plunged them into the channel or near help us deal near the channel to help us deal a pressing matter, i.e. a very pressing matter, i.e. channel migrant crisis. could we divert officers divert border force officers there instead of airports ? no, there instead of airports? no, you could, because it's chalk and cheese . the people that are and cheese. the people that are deaung and cheese. the people that are dealing with the cross channel migrants are , our enforcement migrants are, our enforcement people , not the frontline people, not the frontline passport people . and i mean passport people. and i mean these guys look, look, run the controls are quality skilled. i mean , in my day, i would have mean, in my day, i would have officers that spoke every single european language of my disposal so if somebody came through with for example , an italian i.d. for example, an italian id. card , i would have an officer card, i would have an officer who could speak italian, who could speak to that person straightaway , find out whether straightaway, find out whether they were italian or whether they were italian or whether
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they were italian or whether they were so that that's that's important. okay okay. kevin, look, thank you very, very kevin saunders, that former head of uk border force just reacting to the fact there are more border force strikes that are going to be striking up until new year's eve currently stands. yes, eve as it currently stands. yes, we are not making this up as unbelievable as it sounds. all of reports suggesting that of the reports suggesting that the they've gone on the fact that they've gone on strike literally made no strike literally has made no difference whatsoever to the efficacy able to efficacy of people being able to come in and out of the country at various different uk airports, a airports, which think is a massive backfire from . the massive backfire from. the union, clearly point union, because clearly the point of you want to cause of a strike is you want to cause disruption partly the pointless strike has to highlight strike has been to highlight that. they don't need that. maybe they don't need a pay that. maybe they don't need a pay anyway. all remain pay rise anyway. you all remain patrick gb news patrick christys on gb news middle families could be middle class families could be lumbered with effective tax lumbered with an effective tax write. this up to 96% write. you've got this up to 96% in what's the point? in 2023. what's the point? what's the point of doing anything to lose anything? if you've got to lose 96% dollars thanks to the 96% of dollars thanks to the intricacies the intricacies of the child welfare system which will get stuck right into of will get stuck right into all of the latest note. so the latest on that note. so first, this is your latest
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headunes first, this is your latest headlines with, the wonderful raimondo . 3:33 on radisson in raimondo. 3:33 on radisson in the gb newsroom, two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder in connection with the stabbing of a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub. semi—professional footballer cody fisher was stabbed death cody fisher was stabbed to death on dance floor of the crane on the dance floor of the crane on the dance floor of the crane on day . west midlands on boxing day. west midlands police arrested , a 22 year old police arrested, a 22 year old man in birmingham centre last night while state a 21 year old man was arrested in london . man was arrested in london. border force staff driving examiners are the latest to stage industrial action . members stage industrial action. members of the union at multiple uk airports are continuing their strike over pay , jobs and strike over pay, jobs and conditions. meanwhile, driving examiners have begun five day walkout affecting . more than 70 walkout affecting. more than 70 testing centres on the rail network. tsa union members are also on strike, causing disruption on great western
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railway and west midlands trains . pope francis has asked for prayers . his predecessor, former prayers. his predecessor, former pope , saying he's very sick . the pope, saying he's very sick. the vatican says pope benedict a sudden worsening of his health in recent hours. but his condition is under control. former head of the catholic church became first pope in 600 years to resign when he stepped down in 2013. and the government says it's urgently seeking information . reports that information. reports that a number of uk iranian dual nationals have been detained in iran. the iranian revolutionary guard says it has arrested seven people with direct links to the uk due to their alleged involvement in anti—government protests. a number ten spokesperson says and has rejected claims that the uk is inside seeing riots within the country . we're on tv online and country. we're on tv online and on the 80 plus radio. you're watching gb news. don't go anywhere. patrick will be back in just a moment.
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yes. welcome back, everybody , yes. welcome back, everybody, right at the top of the show. you may remember we discussed quite a shocking story, actually, about prevent actually, about a prevent counter—terrorism report that is not being reported. and he's not being published because of an alleged cabinet row. and that row, as we understand, centres around or pretty much one thing, whether or not the report would offend certain sectors of the muslim community. now, this is a concern for a lot of. supposedly 6000 people a year referred to prevent scheme . that was prevent scheme. that was important as well to say and it is genuinely important the number of far right referrals is massively on the as well of course as the number of islamist related referrals. but the latest on this is that supposedly, supposedly anyway some groups who receive funding
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the prevent scheme actually , the prevent scheme actually, this report says are linked to terrorism and extremism . okay. terrorism and extremism. okay. and they don't want to name them just in case they face legal action. this is annoyed a lot of people now because it can lead to the presumption that some people, some groups of people are kind of protected are some kind of protected species may find species. and people may find that bit . and stewart that a little bit. and stewart says innocent british people have already been murdered in bombings in nine four times because of political correctness . the time for . now is not the time for political correctness. your political correctness. get your views this gbv is views coming in on this gbv is a gb news uk . views coming in on this gbv is a gb news uk. i views coming in on this gbv is a gb news uk . i suspect that gb news dot uk. i suspect that the vast majority the british pubuc the vast majority the british public will not want political correctness the way correctness getting in the way of hardcore action taking of real hardcore action taking place when comes to counter—terrorism this counter—terrorism in this country . going move country. we're going to move away that. now to away from that. now return to at the the next hour because the top of the next hour because another story that think will another story that i think will get you going is about get a lot of you going is about the pocket or lack of it the in your pocket or lack of it because middle class families could be staring down the barrel of effective of up of an effective tax rate of up to next year. that's thanks to 96% next year. that's thanks to 96% next year. that's thanks to two child to a crossover of two child welfare systems a mix between
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welfare systems, a mix between the income levels at which credit benefits are credit and child benefits are withdrawn could result in a sharp . the numbers families . sharp. the numbers of families. yes, if you're anything like initially, this report went slightly my head, but no worries economics adisa and indeed expertise have made this i. vicky price is joining me now to discuss this vicky that we get we've got it out the end. vicky what does this really mean? the headune what does this really mean? the headline seems absolutely here. middle class families at risk of 96% surely can't be 96% tax rate. surely can't be true . well, i'm afraid it can. true. well, i'm afraid it can. and the question, of course, is how many families themselves paying how many families themselves paying quite so much, but according to the resolution foundation, something 3 million families are likely to be or having an effective tax rate of over 60, possibly 69. and if you add various other items, then that percentage of the effective tax increases even further and. that's the real worry. so it's a large number pay still a very high effective rate, not necessarily the 96. and that is because exactly as you said at
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the beginning. it is the fact that particularly when you reach the 50,000 plus a little bit of a threshold, when you start paying a threshold, when you start paying higher income tax rate and you have also the child benefit being gradually reduced as a result, because that's also the threshold there. plus a number of people get universal tax benefits even at high supposedly income because they have other expenses very , very have other expenses very, very big issues about children, big issues about housing. it's then that this starts becoming a really important one. so this is worth it sometimes, but it's not there overall income, right? so it's not let's say someone's on 50,000, it's not let's say someone's on 50,000 , £270 a year, which is 50,000, £270 a year, which is apparently had the way the top rate kicks in. one of the top rates, kicks it on. some people would say that they shouldn't be receiving child welfare benefits universal credit anyway on that of money. well could but of course we do know full well childcare costs are very, very for everyone. i mean, are women trying to get back to work, for example, but also in a number of cases you have, you know, quite
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a lot of children. yes, it is true that benefit now restricted to the first two children. to just the first two children. but actually need the type of but do actually need the type of support also keep you in you know, the type of housing which is necessary your family so you can claim in exceptional can still claim in exceptional circumstances. so we're not saying affected the saying everyone is affected the same way, but what has been happening over the last years and of course, is now being extended to 2028 by the chancellor is that all this personal allowances , you know, personal allowances, you know, you can think whatever you like about whether any child support makes sense or not. but if you do and you keep that allowance for which has already been the case for the last ten years, you can see you can very, very easily get into position where thatis easily get into position where that is withdrawn very fast at a certain level, which means that every extra you get, you kept you very, very low as a result of that. so not worth it. so it's 97. i've had an email about this and i want clarity on it myself anyway, actually. so it's
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not it could be 96% of every pound benefits you receive over a certain level. so the actual of middle class families at risk of middle class families at risk of , 96% tax rate just on it's of, 96% tax rate just on it's 96% of a certain proportion of their income . yes, it is. on the their income. yes, it is. on the extra that you're receiving. so it's not the overall income, it's not the overall income, it's just the extra that you get. and that expected rate . get. and that expected rate. yeah. and that extra is around. look can i just say this having too kids than you can actually afford without this help possibly you have extra costs housing costs. it may not have much do with children, but it could be also said by factors. so you had been of displaced and some time ago and you still need some time ago and you still need some support. you may not have had the job for a while. whatever it is that still gives you the allowance of being able to get some cash from your local council. for example , and some council. for example, and some support. it can happen . it support. it can happen. it doesn't happen very often. but remember the really important issues to do with the fact that
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over 50,000 what happens is that you paying a lot in terms of income tax and of course your national insurance contributions are affecting everything else but up point but mostly you know you get you get over a certain point where your tax increase is very significant and also remember that higher level you start getting your personal allowance also being reduced so we all have a personal allowance of abou t £12,000 we start paying of about £12,000 we start paying tax that if you're nearing 100,000 then what happens you may consider that's too much and nobody worries about that. but nevertheless, what tends to happenis nevertheless, what tends to happen is you you start losing your personal allowance until your personal allowance until you get to 125,000, where not only do lose completely, but only do you lose completely, but also, course you start paying also, of course you start paying the higher rates income tax the higher rates of income tax now. there are all sorts of now. so there are all sorts of positions you find yourself in where you don't think that where you you don't think that it is worth getting an extra pay rise. okay, i can understand that one very, very quick one should hopefully quite to should be hopefully quite to fill in helen in wales has just been on a can you please clarify
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whether or not this all of the uk or just england and wales uk orjust england and wales that's helen's question to you . that's helen's question to you. it's a very good point. it should be england and wales because of course, scotland has its own system goes to vicky . its own system goes to vicky. thank you very much as ever, vicky pryce, the economist extraordinaire , i write, ladies extraordinaire, i write, ladies and gentlemen. well, whether or not you let me know. if not by fax you let me know. if it know whether or not it does, let know whether or not you think may be jobs you think there may be jobs people not be having many people should not be having many kids if they can't afford to have them. maybe after and have them. maybe afterjust and they will be. they can make 2022 will be. however, warmest year on however, the warmest year on record uk. that's record for the uk. that's according provisional figures according to provisional figures from office. the annual from the met office. the annual average temperature the average temperature across the country will exceeded the previous record set in 2014. that was almost ten degrees centigrade, so the record figure coincides with fresh warnings that parts of the uk will see ice heavy rain and potential flooding in the next few days . flooding in the next few days. joining me to discuss this and the year in weather is jim dale. he's a senior meteorologist at weather services and a friend of the channel as well. jim was
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store for us and was coming round corner because we're heanng round corner because we're hearing things like it's the hottest year on record. and then i'm reading out that we're all expecting a lot of ice. yeah, it's not. it's afternoon patrick is it's kind of normal this summer it's a bit get a bit summer it's a bit of get a bit of isn't it. and the snow of ice isn't it. and the snow especially scotland way which is basically where that's where going the of us are going to be the rest of us are going to be the rest of us are going in the tramlines , going to be in the tramlines, the picking up the the atlantic picking up the reservoirs that are out there of rain drizzle we get the occasional that tomorrow will too by the day for most of us but look we're in the conveyor belt so what we can expect now until the end of this particular year and as you just mentioned, the wall may still average on record. so this is a bad day for . climate change denial and so i'm quite happy about today in a strange in a strange way . well, strange in a strange way. well, i did wonder actually whether not people who do bang on lot about climate change secretly quite want that to be very, very extreme disasters. so proves them to be right jim . not really
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them to be right jim. not really no just the results of this if you if you see them try to say now look every, everything that happensin now look every, everything that happens in terms of disasters in terms of weather related isn't all down to climate change. you've to join the dots. you've got to join the dots. i always say this is it's one of those even what's those things even what's happening united states happening in the united states is necessary . a climate is not necessary. a climate event on its own got cold spells before freezing , but that one before freezing, but that one arguable is unprecedented terms of the depths of the degree, the that's involved in places like buffalo but ourselves. if look looking back at 2022 i kind of broke it back into three three sections. so if i can just sort of give you that 120, 22, january in february, we're look at the storms storm malik storm corey storm dudley storm eunice , the big one. and frankly and then followed by storm gladys that was all between the 20th of
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january and the 23rd of february. these are all named storms now , eunice was the big storms now, eunice was the big issue in nice pictures of these moments in time 122 miles per houn moments in time 122 miles per hour. recall added the largest gusts recorded in england it was at the needles actually the thing that's that point that out on the on the why sadly did kill four people an d £260 million four people and £260 million worth of damage not just ourselves in the uk but beyond that into into europe as well. many parts of europe and rightly so . storm franklin floods so. storm franklin floods occurred . you know it was the occurred. you know it was the conveyor , not quite the conveyor conveyor, not quite the conveyor that we see at this in time. it was a lot worse and not feeding that stuff in. so no, we don't look forward to this. we warned about this this is what climate denial . denial basically . and denial. denial basically. and golf, they say it's just a weather and we get used to it and all the rest of it. but no one after another after another and you just mentioned about the
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temperature profile. dare i? the next section i'm going to look at is the summer. can you forget that 128 to july record temperature 40.3 degrees. i don't know money as argument likes to go back to 104.5 degrees f that was in collins in lincolnshire and we all know about the extended drought that occurred roughly from june all the way august time even the spnng the way august time even the spring was with droughts as well , the south and then we had those wildfires to follow as well . don't often see wildfires. well. don't often see wildfires. we see heat fires occasionally in places like the pennines, but to me, wildfires in my time as a meteorologist , i've never seen meteorologist, i've never seen them in this country and see those houses ablaze in. parts of the southeast was incredible to the southeast was incredible to the least and we finish off with the least and we finish off with the trouble from london, you'll remember quite nicely. yes i guess you named it exactly. yes, exactly well, well, well done . exactly well, well, well done. yeah. thank you . i mean, it was yeah. thank you. i mean, it was well in advance. i'm not saying
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that necessarily a climate change event, but when you put all of these together and then you look back at the last decade or the last 15 years and say ten of those ten, those years have been the warmest on record. here we are now the met office suggests this one is the suggests that this one is the sort of the shock. and then you look globally because you have to can't just look at this to you can't just look at this and say, oh, it's just the uk and say, oh, it's just the uk and having bad moment or and say, oh, it's just the uk a|bad having bad moment or and say, oh, it's just the uk a|bad couple ring bad moment or and say, oh, it's just the uk a|bad couple of; bad moment or and say, oh, it's just the uk a|bad couple of years! moment or and say, oh, it's just the uk a|bad couple of years. you'veznt or a bad couple of years. you've got look at other places. so the pakistani floods, for example, glacier melting the glacier is melting in the himalayas . glacier is melting in the himalayas. it took times to occur when it did. it was devastating and many lives lost as . i say join devastating and many lives lost as. i say join the devastating and many lives lost as . i say join the dots around as. i say join the dots around the globe and now i'm going to say to you, patrick, that's going to continue in 2023, the met office have already said not just the met office , world just the met office, world meteorological organisation, the same saying it will be another hot year. we have to stand for the kind of things that we've seen in 2022. okay, jim, thank you very much. is jim dale , who you very much. is jim dale, who is a senior meteorologist british weather services. and of
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course , creator of the trail course, creator of the trail from trondheim but the name of the trail from trondheim. well, throughout the day we're to be discussing the latest strikes as well across uk, one area well across the uk, one area where staff awards is border force, border control union is the first of a four day strike. we've spoken earlier on where the former head of british border force who actually just acknowledged the fact that this has apparently anyway had very little impact. the first round of strikes had very little impact . and if anything, it impact. and if anything, it actually made things a bit more efficient. let's out if efficient. but let's find out if it actually causing any it is actually causing any disruption. have disruption. maybe things have changed. speak now to our changed. we can speak now to our national reporter, theo jacoby, who's gatwick airport. yes, who's at gatwick airport. yes, they are you ? i'm they are. how are you? i'm great, how are you? yes great, thanks. how are you? yes i'm good. it's good to see. i saw you little bit over you. saw you a little bit over you. puts shift half in good puts a shift in a half in good man. but what are things like at gatwick airport at the minute? chaos ? well, it's just chaos or no? well, it's just been one of those days, business as usual at gatwick airport. so they are just one of six airports. but also in crete, in
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the ports of newhaven in the south england, which ferries people across channel. but here today it's been business as usual. have told us usual. gatwick have told us things inside , running smoothly. things inside, running smoothly. they've got military personnel . they've got military personnel. they've got military personnel. they've got military personnel. they've got people in there who are helping in and out of the airport . now, gatwick airport airport. now, gatwick airport have said that. people who do want to come here from from inside the uk that they should bnng inside the uk that they should bring food water just in case they do find themselves in queues. they do find themselves in queues . there are, of course, queues. there are, of course, e—gates people can use and they have doing so today. so in terms delays, there have been many delays, there have been many delays actually today . things delays actually today. things have been running pretty smoothly . okay. well, fingers smoothly. okay. well, fingers crossed that continues . and crossed that continues. and they're going on strike until they're going on strike until the new, i believe . yes right the new, i believe. yes right until the 31st. so today is the first day. and they'll be finishing on the 31st. there is some disappointment. they potentially for ppc's union members this afternoon we heard from ten downing street saying they are to offer double pay
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rises and at the moment, yes, union members, around 1000 of them have offered 2, but they have cited in a survey recently, 40 of their campaign saying that cost of living is squeezing the pockets of many of their workers . theo, thank you much. i'm going to let you go inside and get warm because it sounds and looks absolutely horrendous weather wise where you are at the minute but good must thank you very much they actually come with that our national reports he's gatwick airport. with that our national reports he's look. gatwick airport. with that our national reports he's look. ladiesvick airport. with that our national reports he's look. ladies and airport. with that our national reports he's look. ladies and gentlemen, and look. ladies and gentlemen, of strike disruption of all of the strike disruption we have had with nurses walking outs paramedics, ambulance outs and paramedics, ambulance workers, all of that stuff, rail workers, all of that stuff, rail workers , it does appear that the workers, it does appear that the least effective of these strikes, i think by some margin appears to be the members of the border force who've gone on strike variety of different strike at a variety of different airports the uk. i am airports across the uk. i am reading even more in reading even more reports in front me now that the has front of me now that say the has become efficient without become more efficient without them. you go. anyway, them. so there you go. anyway, right. you are with me patrick
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christys on these lows. more come in the next hour including. yes, will be going to your yes, i will be going to your emails. has emails. the thing that has popped up emails. the thing that has popped up most is the question i've about i've been asking you about whether should publish whether or not we should publish prevent report in full . prevent terror report in full. hello there. i'm carl azuz. and here's your weather update, your headunes. here's your weather update, your headlines . breezy if not windy . headlines. breezy if not windy. we're seeing outbreaks of rain towards the north, showers to follow and a little sunshine in the mix. low pressure centred ireland. strongest winds , sea ireland. strongest winds, sea coast through the evening as well as southern coast. this weather front clears eastern counties of england and it pivots across scotland . so more pivots across scotland. so more wet weather to come here with some hills now. so let's pick up on that rain stretches towards shetland and orkney strong winds here returns to western scotland is batch of rain moves from wales west country northern england towards more eastern . england towards more eastern. further showers also likely across northern ireland and they will be heavy cold in north will be heavy cold in the north to start day on. and with to start the day on. and with that some showery bursts of rain, sunshine and showers for england and wales too. through the can see some pretty
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the day you can see some pretty quite central quite wet across the central belt that clear? still some showers falling in on a strong wind and a cluster showers which keeps northern ireland wet as well for the south. most of the showers will be further south and west across england and wales they could be heavy at times with some sunshine through further see further east where you'll see the driest interludes. but even here, two showers here, one or two showers just coming temperatures coming through. temperatures then down on today. then are locked down on today. some skies on thursday some clearer skies on thursday into friday morning will allow for some ice towards the north—east as this batch of rain arise across northern ireland clips the isle of man, north—west england and up across scotland. now there's a rain warning in force from 3 am. on friday across central and southern scotland this southern of scotland as this rain over northwards and again, the risk some snow above around 300 metres. elsewhere on friday you'll see more in the way of cloud as another batch rain arise from the south—west and brightest guys further east where you'll see a cold start to the day on friday. so that's the picture through the next days. what's the outlook as we head
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welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here now on gb news. now, there's been a massive fallout in cabinet supposed over reforms to the prevent anti terrorism scheme. according to the times newspaper suella braverman michael gove have been embroiled in a bit of a dust up it's over recommendation about how the scheme needs to be changed. we'll have the latest on that. the concern is that actually they are trying to protect different groups protect various different groups with links to elements of the
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muslim community so that they don't lose the relationship that i think that might be a bit easier if you ask me anyway and if someone breaks into your house we'll be actually getting hit police. probably hit by the police. well probably not figures show not because new figures show that failed to find in that police failed to find in over a million theft cases last yeah over a million theft cases last year. i've got that. i've got you. strikes i've your you. strikes i've got your views. vaiews@gbnews.uk uk and a big one that going to a big one that we're going to dissect shortly and i want dissect very shortly and i want to from on it should to hear from you on it should the be published the prevent be published in full? are we afraid of offending some members of the muslim . some members of the muslim. community but before that she had lunch . one minute pass for had lunch. one minute pass for radisson in the gb newsroom. two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder in connection with the stabbing of a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub. semi—professional footballer cody fisher was stabbed to death on the dance floor of the crane nightclub on, boxing day. hundreds of people there at the
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time. his family , their hearts time. his family, their hearts were broken following . his were broken following. his death. west midlands police say a 22 year old was arrested in birmingham city centre last night whilst a 21 year old man was arrested in london. border force staff and driving examiners are the latest to stage industrial action. members of the pc union working at multiple uk airports are continuing their strike over pay jobs conditions. driving examiners have begun a five day walkout affecting more than 70 testing centres in. the east of england and the midlands. meanwhile, on the rail network, tsa say union members are on strike causing disruption on the great western railway and west midlands trains. downing street is urging unions and employers reach an agreement. independents correspondent simon calder . us correspondent simon calder. us pubuc correspondent simon calder. us public support is waning . correspondent simon calder. us public support is waning. in correspondent simon calder. us public support is waning . in rmt public support is waning. in rmt union on christmas eve . say, union on christmas eve. say, where's the ministers? we want to talk to them? i think there
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is a sense talking to individual railway and women, those in the front doing fantastic work there . they have lost hundreds sometimes thousands of pounds. theideais sometimes thousands of pounds. the idea is this is an essential industry. travel is the travelling public is sort of saying , no, you're not. pope saying, no, you're not. pope francis has asked for prayers for. his predecessor, former pope benedict, for. his predecessor, former pope benedict , saying for. his predecessor, former pope benedict, saying he's very sick. the vatican says pope benedict had sudden worsening of his health in recent hours, but his health in recent hours, but his condition is under control and he's receiving constant medical care. the 95 year old former head of the catholic became the first pope in 600 years to resign when he stepped down in 2013. cricketer troy i would like to ask all of you for special prayer for pope emeritus benedict, who inside is sustaining the church . let us sustaining the church. let us remember him. he is very sick asking the lord to console and
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sustain in this witness of love for the church until the end . for the church until the end. words of pope francis . religious words of pope francis. religious journalist lupe centerville says vatican is now in uncharted territory. if pope benedict die, it be the very first time that a p0pe it be the very first time that a pope die in name the pope. a p0pe pope die in name the pope. a pope every day in the vatican. so it will be all new. we don't exactly. even if the vatican is prepared saying we know exactly what will be organised and how it will be organised. in other news, two children under the age of ten have died with strep a in scotland. public health scotland says seven people in total have now died from the invasive infection in the country since october. it as nhs england data shows that strep a is driving
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the record demand for nhs 111 the record demand for nhs111 helpline services . at least 19 helpline services. at least 19 children have died across the uk from the disease . the government from the disease. the government says urgently seeking information following reports that a number of uk iranian dual nationals have been detained in iran. the revolutionary guard says , it has arrested seven says, it has arrested seven individuals with direct to the uk due to their alleged involvement in anti—government protest . a number ten protest. a number ten spokesperson has rejected that the uk is riots within the country and called on iran to stop holding nationals for diplomatic leverage . the diplomatic leverage. the north—east of england could be the latest region to have a directly elected mayor the government announces a £14 billion devolution deal. the arrangement would give powers over education, transport and housing to people across northumberland newcastle and sunderland . elections for the sunderland. elections for the new man could take place in may
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. it happens. let's get back to. pat yeah. welcome back, everybody. that's got stuck right into the top of the day. has been reports that a long awaited of the prevent counterterror program has been delayed because of a row between the home secretary and the levelling up secretary, supposedly it might run deeper than and actually indicate some issues amongst all civil service all woke civil service . well, all woke civil service. well, the report was expected to criticise the number of organisations and highly rated some prevent funding groups promoting supposed extremist narratives so naming and shaming groups who receive funding the prevent program who allegedly actually promote . well michael actually promote. well michael gove is supposedly not buying into the fact that we be naming and shaming these groups . and shaming these groups. apparently some members of the
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home office are afraid of the fact might sued , but fact they might be sued, but also well of stirring up also as well of stirring up tensions, stirring up distrust and having them pull out of the present scheme altogether. members the may well members of the public may well feel a little bit let down here. has the pc brigade got involved, yet with counter—terror. yet again with counter—terror. joining major general joining me now, major general chip head , chip chapman, former head, counter—terrorism uk counter—terrorism and uk operations at the ministry of defence. thank you very much for joining a of joining us again. a bit of a complicated layers to it. it must be said as it's crux. is there chance some home there any chance that some home civil servants are well, frankly, too afraid offending elements of the muslim community highlight the fact that some of those groups actually still be promoting extremism . well, they promoting extremism. well, they shouldn't . it's an independent shouldn't. it's an independent review, but like all these things is both presentational political aspects. and that's this thing has actually taken so long. so the prevent review originally out of the counter—terrorism border act in 2019. and lord carlile was supposed to be the guy who did the review. there were ten
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muslim groups took a court case against him preventing doing that. so there's always a spectrum of people who put the word controversial in front of prevent when of course , is not prevent when of course, is not controversial in the sense it is safeguarding people from going along a linear path. it sometimes isn't linear towards part in a terrorist act. so it is safeguarding the vulnerable that includes young people. so in my view, should be all independently applied. but if writing an independent poll in a sage and wise way, it is probably pretty farcical to the 0p probably pretty farcical to the op setting. people because you can do it in a in an a careful and considered manner. and i can say that because i have written an independent review for the government was laid before parliament, but also if it is true and you can prove then you shouldn't really have of shouldn't really have much of risk sued if it offends risk of being sued if it offends people . that's not really your people. that's not really your problem is . it if it's true and problem is. it if it's true and you can prove it and the concern here i'm just reading now the
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report is to criticise several organisations and highlight how some prevent funded groups have promoted extremist narratives. i i think the british public deserve to know who they and they. yeah. and i think that they. yeah. and i think that they probably do. you were to look up the ten groups who took against lord court, lord carlile mean they're all laid out there and they have a wider agenda, which is they actually to which is they actually want to get all counter—terrorism get rid of all counter—terrorism and roll clock back so that they can further extremist views. and thatis can further extremist views. and that is one of the reasons, for example, i don't know if it will be mentioned in the report that we should absolutely for not have a blasphemy law in future, because as soon as introduce because as soon as you introduce that legislation, then that sort of legislation, then the law including european law, will hold you to account for that better to let people of you know the rabid about these things rather than the not. yeah and so there is a chance that some groups who actually really do want to instil radical islam in the united kingdom are potentially using racism in the label of racism as a way of
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hiding their identity and their true intentions . people off them true intentions. people off them . yeah. because indeed some of the groups actually that this was both racist and islamophobe it. now i can tell you it's not that the counterterrorist command and, mi5, follow the threats. they don't follow the ideology. if the threat is at the moment, 75% islamist of those in prison and 75% of the cases, that is why they follow the threat. if the threat the high priority threat priority one alpha is attacked and that is a right wing extremist or a left or anarchist they will settle that first. that is the it works in the terror as well. so why are people even more scared of the muslim community? well, one of the participants at the home secretary's weekly is, of course, the dci , the sponsor of course, the dci, the sponsor cohesion local government. so you know, they have a role to play you know, they have a role to play in this and can have a view on all this. but the independent review should say it as it is ,
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review should say it as it is, and you manage the consequences of that. yeah. and i think that's nail on head stuff isn't , which is if this is the reality and this is an independent report , then frankly independent report, then frankly censoring i think is pretty dodgy. if the consequences are unpalatable. that's because there is an unpalatable problem that surely needs to be dealt . that surely needs to be dealt. check what various to do with the recommendation . so if you the recommendation. so if you look at all the recommendations have touched on this area before, which is the last one was the case review in 2016 that actually mentioned there about combining our politics. you're in the business of not offending people. if you want to get to the core of the business as opposed to from the council report which came after the race riots in the early part this century you're not going to get anywhere and politicians certain times and they need take decisive action. but having said that i decisive action. but having said thati do decisive action. but having said that i do always say that we going to be careful threatened flirtation because so far this year no one in the uk has been
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killed in a terrorist act . well, killed in a terrorist act. well, and actually, this leads me to a couple of questions, which is that if some of these groups are named and shamed, as it were, and really annoys them, could they pull out of the prevent scheme altogether. and would that things more dangerous ? well that things more dangerous? well the prevent scheme is actually a multi—agency scheme, and they the part where people get involved is to do with making that they're going off this pathway. there's not a deradicalisation program at school. and that's sort of misunderstood by people. it's that safeguarding thing. and early if people or radicalised that will come into perceived camp, i will be in the bailiwick of task command and m15 from the off and this is part the complaint here, which is that some of these groups who are supposed to be doing just that, which is veering people away from that path, might actually be encouraging people to take that little bit of a that path. a little bit of a controversial question, this chap, a massive chap, but there's a massive relevance so i'll
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relevance to it here. so i'll ask, which the by not ask, which is the by not publishing info, the publishing this info, if the narrative or the narrative is pushed or the reality is pushed, frankly, that there little a cover there is a little bit of a cover up going on here because people don't areas of don't want to offend areas of the muslim community, could that actually lead to far right terrorism because could that not basically lead people down the route of thinking? what if the government isn't doing anything route of thinking? what if the governmetheni't doing anything route of thinking? what if the governmethen i. doing anything route of thinking? what if the governmethen i. yeah. anything route of thinking? what if the governmethen i. yeah. that'sing about it? then i. yeah. that's certainly the potential that there's a thing called reciprocal . and if your is that reciprocal. and if your is that says you know this government or the government is concerned these things that can be something would tip you over the edge and indeed one attack we have seen recently was to do with that sort of thinking with the attack at manston 66 year old. and not only is preventable at the very young because are people who are so youth on youth radicalised but also there those who are very old. so the guy was 66 i think his name was andrew link, the guy who was pointing manston and tried to firebomb it . so just finally your personal
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recommendation is someone with a massive massive belief in this stuff. former head of counter—terror ism and uk operations as the ministry of defence , you would recommend defence, you would recommend that you publish this report in full and we just deal with the consequence of that . if it's an consequence of that. if it's an independent review, that's what should be done. gustav thank you very, very much. that is general chip chapman , former head of chip chapman, former head of counterterrorism and uk operations, the mod . what do you operations, the mod. what do you make of that? last just i imagine the emails will be flooding in i'm fast on that gb views gb news dot uk. i'm going to go to the inbox shortly but. we're cover something we're going to cover something else before i do and is rail passengers across britain are being warned to expect disruption new year disruption into the new year with set to with rail strong set to continue. barons have continue. union barons have said they now introduce they want to now introduce loyalty cards to artificially expand the picket line numbers . expand the picket line numbers. the union backed strike map organisation is offering prizes to the left wing activists who send multiple picket lines regarding , whether they have any
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regarding, whether they have any personal involvement in a series of bizarre pages spews rmt union at network rail or regimes over pay at network rail or regimes over pay and conditions. on tuesday third and wednesday, the 4th of january. joining me now , rob january. joining me now, rob williams, socialist party organiser and trade unionist. hope you had a fabulous christmas, rob. it's to have you back on the show this smacks of absolute desperation. i thought they had the public support, widespread public now widespread public support. now you've out loyalty you've got to dish out loyalty cards trots so they can go cards to trots so they can go across multiple picket lines every single day. it's sad. i i think the desperation is this story to be on straight mark is , is, is an organisation helps build solidarity for disputes. it's probably it's probably just a few promotion is certainly not the trade union leaders strike mob does a useful role in showing support just like the national shops do is not act as honestly. it's an absurd loot nonstory and be a badge of
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honour for street mob. but the daily mail don't forget the daily mail don't forget the daily mail don't forget the daily mail of the hurrah for the black shirts and the 1930s is angry if they've incurred the wrath of the daily mail, then it's a badge of honour for straight bucks going to do the dispute . many built in support dispute. many built in support and solidarity . nothing wrong and solidarity. nothing wrong with that . just going forward. with that. just going forward. then i'll take it. with that. just going forward. then i'll take it . strike action then i'll take it. strike action planned. are you concerned more generally public support for them might way the strikes have been bit saturated. really, haven't they? apparently even driving off today driving examiners are off today . well, first of all, they give support and solidarity to all those trade unions guarantee the peace. yes all those unions that are taking action , you know, are taking action, you know, whatever the issue here is, isn't it? is that government is intent on doesn't want to negotiate. see, i believe behind the role that the royal mail and the role that the royal mail and the rail companies management to play the rail companies management to play in as well . the issue is play in as well. the issue is that if people are worried about
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disputes as a solution is that the government and employers should be negotiating with the trade unions. what the government and employers are putting on the table right now and effectively pay cuts, not give it anything . they give it give it anything. they give it massive pay cuts to they members. you've got no option but to take action is there a concern a little bit like we've seen some of the border force strikes the cbsa a variety of different airports across uk that it might turn out that the service is a lot more efficient without them being there . well without them being there. well if it's so efficient , why is it if it's so efficient, why is it where people and the truth is that workers do the jobs every day. thank you, patrick. if you didn't turn up, there'd be no programme . but didn't turn up, there'd be no programme. but i'm sure didn't turn up, there'd be no programme . but i'm sure the programme. but i'm sure the company, if i if i didn't turn up, if i didn't sign up, you and i both know that nobody care. but i appreciate what you're saying yes. viewing figures saying. yes. the viewing figures are probably going through the roof. the star would be born, but . but, yes, i do take your. i but. but, yes, i do take your. i do your but when it do take your point. but when it comes to the cost of these
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strikes , i find it hard to strikes, i find it hard to understand if it's to cost us around 30 million quid a day for various different on various different rail to go on strike. for example, i'm the strike. for example, i'm in the of cost living crisis how of a cost of living crisis how on is the government going to be able to afford to give you the pay able to afford to give you the pay rise that which by the pay rise that you which by the way political party way neither political party wants, will, the wants, if you will, making the country poorer ? well, first of country poorer? well, first of all, absolute scandal all, it's an absolute scandal that labour supporting . that labour isn't supporting. strikes, isn't in favour of workers getting information proofed, pay raise. no question about that but the fact is, is that the employers and the government rather waste money bringing in all that sort of, you know, the things that bring it into train , defeat the action it into train, defeat the action . look, on the point you made earlier , the strikes are still earlier, the strikes are still in credit . popular. why are they in credit. popular. why are they popular ? because people like popular? because people like your channel, people like the media, people the government cannot do wage workers at the moment because . all workers are moment because. all workers are faced in a cost of living crisis . and actually, i think they're
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glad that someone standing up against this government, employers. but to be you've got a point now that's just untrue because people can divide the workers in, the sense of public popularity. we know the ambulance workers have a poll of around 63% for their strike action. nurses around 65% of rail workers are way down the ball that was 44. so i mean actually people deal the priority of people and when it comes to rail workers, i'm sorry, but the public don't really them the priority really see them as the priority . well well, i think the fact that the rail workers have been taking action for six months about a torrent of propaganda against them , the media, and against them, the media, and still that even on the figures you're caught in nearly half of people of them that's the majority action not because they see that as it's not just about pay see that as it's not just about pay on the rails. it's about keeping it a safe service for people as well . so yeah, people
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people as well. so yeah, people support just like they support renationalise of the rails, just like they support the national, you know , ization royal mail you know, ization royal mail and, the energy companies. i get, i get what you're saying which is that reading between the lines that the public now will not this as much as they could be doing as a result of you would call propaganda that is the kind of thing a dictator would say no i think on the contrary it's all in the lines. i think the in general support the action is being taken actually what's coming across on picket after picket line. and again this is not some conspiracy . workers are drawing conspiracy. workers are drawing the conclusion they should take action together . you know, action together. you know, that's not a conspiracy. talking that's because workers feel the crisis. but is this the issue is thatis crisis. but is this the issue is that is this where issue is which is the workers taking strike action together all of a sudden it starts to look like a general strike of a sort of mick
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lynch is rhetoric just thinking of him out here, but his rhetoric appears to be going more in that direction. the labour party does support you and basically starting to look a little bit like some kind radical socialist communist putsch. and this country is not radically socialist or communist is . well, i tell you what this is. well, i tell you what this country does do is that this country does do is that this country knows that working class people over the last decades are being taken for a ride. they know the privatisation has not beenin know the privatisation has not been in their interest. they know that the rich are getting fichen know that the rich are getting richer, the poorer are getting poorer. so as far as working people concerned, they know people are concerned, they know society is skewed against them . society is skewed against them. and i believe a supportive of those workers taking action for a decent pay rise against the cost of living crisis. okay all right. well, i will leave it there. thank you very much. i do genuinely have you had a wonderful christmas as well. i'm a good and you have a lovely a good man and you have a lovely new i'll speak to new year. sure. i'll speak to you between now and then. you're all every day. as robert leaves the socialist. just organise a trade unionist is always going a
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bit trade unionist is always going a bh and trade unionist is always going a bit and forth. you have to bit back and forth. you have to say it right. you are me patrick christys coming. christys on gb news coming. police failed find any police failed to find any suspects in more than a million theft cases england and wales theft cases in england and wales last just spoken last year i've just spoken to you it. some great you about it. might some great big up going when it big cover up going on when it comes radical islamist comes to radical islamist terror. no cover terror. well certainly no cover up on when comes to up going on when it comes to burglaries, not solving burglaries, just not solving them, by the looks of things. we'll speak to former chief we'll speak to a former chief superintendent on superintendent of the met on just going is just what's going wrong. that is all your let's all coming your way. let's gentlemen to take here gentlemen interest to take here on live. we'll be on gb news live. we'll be keeping you in the picture, finding happening finding out what's happening across out across the country, finding out why to you. we'll why it matters to you. we'll have the facts fast with our team of reporters specialist team of reporters and specialist correspondent. wherever it's happening, correspondent. wherever it's happ
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welcome back, everybody . patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. now, last year, police were unable to find any suspect acts at all in over million theft cases in england and wales. there's also beenin england and wales. there's also been in decline in the proportion of crimes in which someone is charged , as is . down someone is charged, as is. down to just 5.4. the short of secretary yvette cooper said the sort problem that has no plan to turn around is instead obsessed with gimmicks rather than a serious plan to catch more criminals. labour today is trying position themselves as being on crime being more tough on crime a tough i think if you ask tough ask. i think if you ask me, fact that the me, given the fact that the serving labour london mayor appears to have basically denounced police denounced the british police force a regular basis, force on a regular basis, something would no doubt something he would no doubt deny. would stop and deny. but that would go stop and search to be search doesn't seem to be priority number in labour priority number in the labour party. anyway, i now welcome former superintendent former detective superintendent the police shoving the metropolitan police shoving him chowdhry to the programme shouting thank you very, very much. i read with absolute disgust something the disgust today something on the
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front mother knifed front of the mail. mother knifed to she to death by burglars as she protected her family and i suppose as as while around a million burglars know that they're not going to get called or even questioned, unfortunately, this kind of stuff is going keep stuff is going to keep happening. it well, that's a real tragic and extreme case, andifs real tragic and extreme case, and it's absolutely awful . but and it's absolutely awful. but let's put it the other way , that let's put it the other way, that a million victims have come to police reported crime , police reported crime, burglaries and thefts and they've been unsolved. so over a million victims have been let down, despite the fact that had the courage to come forward with the courage to come forward with the hope that they could trust the hope that they could trust the police to solve those crimes very, very situation for victims and a terrible situation for policing . what can be done about policing. what can be done about is it just more police? because my concern , if we've got rid of my concern, if we've got rid of something like 20,000 of them and crucial the police stations
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audh and crucial the police stations audit reports all the time on police stations closing. even if we recruited a load more, why would we put put. we recruited a load more, why would we put put . well, it's not would we put put. well, it's not a question of recruiting a load more. you're just making up for the numbers we've lost in the first instance, policing has lost something like 20,000 police officers. now the government are making make in these numbers up by recruiting more police officers . they're more police officers. they're not actually recruiting more. they're just to make up for what they've lost out in the first place. you just earlier on that the crime solvency for investigations of burglaries crimes that are five point forcing seven years ago it was 15% which isn't great but certainly was a lot better when . you put a whole load of different situation together, for example, of lack of resources , lack of experience resources, lack of experience some officers are not particularly interested in going round to house investigating a crime, let alone reporting it.
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there's a big difference between reporting and actually going in and investigating, doing house to house inquiries. look at all the other things like forensics, cameras , all those sorts of cameras, all those sorts of things. police officers are swamped because of the fact that they're dealing with mental health issues. they're dealing with missing persons every single day of the week. they are social workers as well as they were a number different were adequate a number different other hats in the process . all other hats in the process. all that happens is those victims that happens is those victims that desperately want the support police that do have to deal with one of the most horrendous crimes which is burglary, having somebody breaking into homes and invading their privacy and then finding that even when they provide evidence to the police, they're not being solved. they're not being used to just see things horrible criminals. the they go out continue to perpetrate those crimes. i don't want to knock our police force. they do get a lot of criticism. things like doing the macarena at gay pride events and things like that. and yeah, got a bit wound up
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yeah, or i got a bit wound up about that, especially when i read articles about the fact there's only conviction rate there's only a conviction rate or of 5.4. i don't or something of a 5.4. i don't do all of this, but do understand all of this, but why anyone to go policing why anyone want to go policing right now? every single time you stop and search someone. it like you're going to end up in some kind of inquest. you've got various different political figures pains to say the figures at pains to say the police is institutionally police force is institutionally racist misogynistic. racist and misogynistic. the i don't fantastic is it don't think is fantastic is it really as you've said that really and as you've said that you dealing with a of you end up dealing with a lot of well, social work. you are like a mental provider as a mental health provider as opposed actually going out opposed to actually going out and being a police officer. it fair that realistically ? fair to say that realistically? well, pretty unhappy well, it's a pretty unhappy thing to become a police officer, isn't it ? it is on, officer, isn't it? it is on, patrick. but the bottom line is that, look, i police for than 30 years i had my highs my lows but i did my job with passion and with compassion and i loved it and i loved being a detect know and i loved being a detect know and i love investigating crimes. i love working with teams that absolutely brilliant the. bottom line is if you you know you talk
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about all the macarena and the you know , all the other things you know, all the other things that you talk about misogyny, racism. yes fact is, those issues do exist in policing and it's absolutely right that policing held to account because police officers have huge of powers and they can take the liberty from members of the public. they can put them in handcuffs, but then not forced . handcuffs, but then not forced. so often they can do strip searches or those things that they're in the not too often . they're in the not too often. well, far too often people because only got a conviction rate something like 5.4% in a million burglaries aren't going so or even a suspect being identified . of course i would identified. of course i would argue that. well, they're not taking people's liberty taking many people's liberty away that without people's away are that without people's liberties away, whether it's one person or whether it's 50,000 people, the fact is they have strong power , they have strong power, they have legislation that they to hand that they could use . i agree that they could use. i agree with you that the investigative
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the fact that are bringing people to justice is for effective government to reduce policing by 20,000 officers. and they're trying make up the shortfall. they're not increasing police officers . increasing police officers. they're just making up for the numbers that they took away in the first instance. and that is one of the biggest issues that policing at the moment. i with you completely on that and i think it's utter madness that we expect try law and expect you to try do law and order on the cheap and then lo and would be some and behold there would be some different result than the one that saw before us today. that we saw a before us today. thank you very, very for thank you very, very much for your appreciated your time i really appreciated that you that that subject showed you that former detective superintendent at metropolitan police you all remain christys gb remain patrick christys on gb news. got of emails news. i've got loads of emails coming about our top story coming in about our top story today could well be today which is could well be that the prevent extremism report is not being published because office civil service don't want to members of the muslim community it certainly looks that way and it's certainly getting a of you certainly getting a lot of you very angry. go to the inbox very angry. i'll go to the inbox shortly. vaiews@gbnews.uk but
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in nearly half of in another story, nearly half of junee quit the junee adults plans to quit the nhs as soon as they can. that's according to the british medical association. that association. it's found that poor working conditions poor pay and working conditions were among the main reasons why they wanted to leave . we they wanted to leave. we drilling down into that. with a junior doctor very very shortly. that should be interesting . all that should be interesting. all that coming away of the headunes. that coming away of the headlines . 4:34 on randerson in headlines. 4:34 on randerson in the gb news stream. two men have been arrested on suspicion of in connection with the stabbing . a connection with the stabbing. a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub semi—professional footballer fisher was stabbed to death on the dance floor of the cray night on boxing day. west midlands arrested a 22 year old man in birmingham city centre last night, whilst a 21 year old was arrested in london london . was arrested in london london. police are appealing for any information on the weapon used information on the weapon used in a shooting which killed a 26
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year old on christmas eve in the world. merseyside police , they world. merseyside police, they are working to establish whether the firearm used could be connected to any other incidents in the area . beautician elle in the area. beautician elle edwards was shot at the lighthouse in on the wirral on christmas eve. police say she was not believed to have been the target of the attack. two people have since been arrested in connection with the incident . border force staff and driving examiners are the latest to state to stage industrial action . members of the pcc's union working at multiple uk airports are continuing their strike paying are continuing their strike paying jobs and conditions. meanwhile, driving examiners have begun a five day walkout affecting more than 70 testing centres on the rail network. tsa union members are also on strike causing disruption on great railway and west midlands trains . pope francis asked for prayers for predecessor former pope benedict , for predecessor former pope benedict, saying he's very sick . the vatican says pope benedict
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a sudden worsening of his health in recent hours. but his condition is under control. the former head , the catholic former head, the catholic church, became the first pope in 600 years to resign when he stepped down in 2013. the government says it is urgently seeking information following reports that a number of uk iranian dual nationals have been detained in iran . iranian detained in iran. iranian revolutionary guard says it has arrested seven people due to their alleged involvement months in anti—government protests . in anti—government protests. number ten has rejected claims that the uk is inciting riots within the country . we're on tv within the country. we're on tv onune within the country. we're on tv online , on dab plus radio. online, on dab plus radio. you're watching gb news patrick. we'll be back in just a moment.
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welcome back, everybody . patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news. now for and junior doctors plan to quit nhs as soon as they possibly can . apparently that's possibly can. apparently that's according to a new survey from the british medical association . a third of those looking at leaving are planning working abroad. australia is the top destination of choice. i wonder why this really is why just so many doctors want to leave the health service immediately. joining me now is kishan battaglia, who is a junior doctor. thank you very much. great to have you on the show. are you going to quit? thank you . i love my job as a doctor and i feel i've dedicated my life to becoming a doctor . so i feel i've dedicated my life to becoming a doctor. so as long as conditions maintain , working conditions maintain, working conditions maintain, working conditions improve and i feel happyin conditions improve and i feel happy in my job, this includes working conditions and pay that i will. but i'm aware that there are other options out there and for many of my colleagues, it's a very tempting. can i ask. it
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sounds horribly personal this, but in relation to the fact that a lot people are leaving a taxpayer funded service as a result of supposedly poor pay, what are you paid . yeah well, it what are you paid. yeah well, it vanes what are you paid. yeah well, it varies depending on what stage of training you're at. so typically somebody goes to medical school five years and. then after you've done that, sort your medical school, you graduate as a foundation year one doctor and that is roughly £14 per hour, which could equate to around £29,000 for that first yeah to around £29,000 for that first year. it goes slightly the following and into training very slightly up until you're earning roughly slightly up until you're earning roughl y £28 slightly up until you're earning roughly £28 per hour. slightly up until you're earning roughly £28 per hour . and that roughly £28 per hour. and that would be a salary of around £58,000 a year. okay alright. and is there a possibility to become a specialised dog trainer and quite a bit more. my point here being is it like any career where you start out and you gradually work your way, the pay
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scale ? so what i've explained scale? so what i've explained just now, it starts off about £14 per hour that actually just now, it starts off about £14 per hour that actually £58 per hour is roughly what those higher, specialised doctors higher, more specialised doctors are earning. that could be a neurosurgeon with more ten years experience. to be honest, it's not just about what we're earning per hour. we have to consider that we go to medical school five years many of us graduate with up . school five years many of us graduate with up . £100,000 worth graduate with up. £100,000 worth of debt and this includes real debt. credit cards overdraw bank loans to help those debts. years of university and then we enter a job earning this amount and you know we're working weekends nights bank holidays take you on a responsibility and many junior doctors are struggling to manage financially . so how does a load financially. so how does a load of doctors who, like to come on and say they've got a load of solidarity with the medical community, with nurses over how does a lot of them leaving them
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to go and join in and abroad actually matters? it's about the working conditions and, just not know we are just does that all make working conditions worse because more of you are leaving this fewer of you here in our nhs ? well, the doctors who nhs? well, the doctors who working on the nurses , many of working on the nurses, many of the people working with the nhs , they're feeling this the strains on the system at the moment. so those waiting times that they're concerned about the provision care that we can deliver to patients . and there deliver to patients. and there comes a point in in a person's career where unable to continue working in that and as a result going abroad where salaries be higher and they are feeling more valued is a much more tempting proposition . why don't they proposition. why don't they study abroad , begin with ? well, study abroad, begin with? well, i mean, i take myself as an example . i studied in the uk example. i studied in the uk because my plan has been to work as a doctor in the uk. i went to school here. i went to medical
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school here. i went to medical school here. i went to medical school here. i've working in the midlands . you take it year by midlands. you take it year by year thinking , you know, next year thinking, you know, next year thinking, you know, next year i'll be doing this in five years i hope be years time. i hope to be specialised in this area. upon being in the uk. but as time goes on, that's when you start to real. you really feel the impact of working in a difficult, challenging environment with those levels of pay - environment with those levels of pay . but also interestingly environment with those levels of pay. but also interestingly , pay. but also interestingly, even when i was at medical school, i probably i was think work experience, medical school, i had to consult isn't saying to me this probably isn't going to be the best career your happiness don't do it but i still did it because i wanted to become a doctor . absolutely. become a doctor. absolutely. take my hat off to you. 100. i have.i take my hat off to you. 100. i have. i say this single time, as you saw, as a medical community, ihave you saw, as a medical community, i have never saved a life. i've never come close to it. and certainly i don't i'd certainly i don't think i'd actually be able to do, you know, hold it high know, absolutely hold it in high regard. one of the concerns that ihave regard. one of the concerns that i have and, i say kind of as a punter as a a customer for punter as a as a customer for the , right. is if somebody the nhs, right. is if somebody does decide go into a job and
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then nhs, whether it's a doctor or nurse, whatever, i'm immensely grateful for them . immensely grateful for them. that and it is a highly skilled job but if you know what the pay before you do it and you what the working conditions are like you do it. do you know , have you do it. do you know, have a right to moan about it now it's happening to you. i think we do and i mean, point number one is we're not we're not comparing it to other workers at all. but the main point is that the junior doctors pay has declined real terms by 26% since 2008. and i mean, i entered the job thinking that the levels of pay would be sufficient to manage a lifestyle be able to afford bills. i would go to its cost of living crisis to manage comfortably, but only when you're actually working and in that situation that you really feel that impact. i realise that with the time, the weekends the nights, the stress,
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the burdens i've come after the pandemic that is after we have made decision to go to medical school, we that that can become too much just. does it wind you up when see reports come out of people are getting jobs as a director lived experience in the nhs you earn 150 grand a year whereas as you very eloquently explained to me that the pay scale for a doctor, a junior daughter can around the 29,000 mark. and after a few years of medical and dedicated service, it is actually saving lives you might end up on around 59 k, whereas someone who's got a woke looking cv can earn three times that. looking cv can earn three times that . again, it's not about that. again, it's not about comparing to other people. everyone has their own value to bnng everyone has their own value to bring to an organisation and i don't think is being honest. i don't think is being honest. i do love being honest. do you think someone has a director of lived experiences three times as valuable as you are to nhs doctors saving lives in the nhs? there needs to be valued as such. i'm not in a position to
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comment on what somebody else is getting paid. i'm not happy to do so. i believe that doctors were incredibly hard. all staff who on the ground working who were on the ground working saved patients. saved the lives of patients. should for the skills, should valued for the skills, the energy, the expertise , the the energy, the expertise, the weekends, the on calls, the burden and the responsibility and the current way. the current way things are . we're not being way things are. we're not being valued in that way. and that's why doctors want to go abroad . why doctors want to go abroad. okay, well, good luck to you and.thank okay, well, good luck to you and. thank you for everything you do. saving lives am on 81 day as dahiru is a junior doctor explaining why apparently four in ten. janine are desperate to go abroad as soon as they try to have a head. what do you make of that, ladies and gentlemen and get those views coming in as i have gbs gb news dot uk but as we've been discussing throughout the another the course of the show, another one big stories today one of our big stories today today marks the return of strikes across the uk, one area where staff have walked out apparently next apparently with absolutely next to whatsoever, to no impact whatsoever, which i think is our border think is hilarious is our border force, border control, force, our border control, but also chikomba also reports that theo chikomba has gatwick airport
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has been at gatwick airport today finding out what the action actually done been action has actually done been business here at business as usual here at gatwick . it's one of six gatwick. it's one of six airports in the uk where pccs members who work for border force have walked out . for the force have walked out. for the next few days, they'll be out the picket line until new year's eve saying they want better pay and conditions in their industry . so far they've been offered 2. what they want and which they say is more in line with inflation as part of their campaign . they've been saying campaign. they've been saying the cost of living is squeezing the cost of living is squeezing the pockets of many of the members but we don't know at the moment how long these conversations are going to last for the government say union bosses and companies need to sit on the table and figure out a deal on the table and figure out a deal. but of course, public sector workers we've seen across the country have been campaigning for better pay as the cost of living is squeezing the cost of living is squeezing the pockets of many for now members of the union will be out and they are encouraged people to check before they travel just in case there are delays because
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of this. and thank you very, very much right now from the paper pocket. excuse me. good grief. there you go. from the pay grief. there you go. from the pay packets of one side of the public, we squeeze to another middle class families be staring down the barrel of an effective tax rate of 96. next year. that's according to reports . that's according to reports. that's according to reports. that's not so. a crossover of two child welfare systems crossover between the income levels, which credit and child benefit are withdrawn could result in a sharp in the number of families. hey it's right joining me now is personal finance reporter from the telegraph alexia phillips . i telegraph alexia phillips. i like sir i'm off to throw over to you on this one for a second because i appear to have a frog in my throat over. there you go. what's actually going on in the nineties? percent sounds like a heck of a lot. yeah. so the reason this is happening is because of the way these kind because of the way in these kind of benefit systems are of two benefit systems are withdrawn as you enter the income . between 50000 to 60000.
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income. between 50000 to 60000. that's the point. we're actually if you get a £10,000 pay rise for some people that actually just means an 800 taking back , just means an 800 taking back, you know, just means an 800 taking back, you know , £800 in your take home you know, £800 in your take home pay - you know, £800 in your take home pay . and the reason for this is pay. and the reason for this is just because of the way which so child gets kind of child benefit gets kind of withdrawn. when you start to hit 50,000, completely 50,000, that is completely removed at 60,000. well, people don't that there's don't realise that there's actually a lot of there's 50,000 families that are both eligible for both eligible for child benefit and universal credit. so for them between 50,000, 60,000. they're also getting their universal credit withdrawn. so basically, if you're in that bracket and you're affected by those things, if you add in, that's an effective tax rate of 80, especially if you include, you know, the income tax rate for those 50 k. so yeah, so that's what's happening there. and then if you factor in pension contributions as well as student loan for people in that bracket, basically a pay rise
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doesn't pay. and like i say, yeahis doesn't pay. and like i say, yeah is there an argument at all with this that some people earning above a certain amount of money so 50 k plus shouldn't really necessarily be on any form benefits whatsoever and they shouldn't have kids that they shouldn't have kids that they can't afford . i mean , so they can't afford. i mean, so they can't afford. i mean, so the interesting history with that with the universal credit is that a year ago rishi sunak actually changed the taper rate so that actually people were earning more than so that actually people were earning more tha n £50,000 could earning more than £50,000 could become eligible for universal credit. it was a kind of controversial at the time. and the reason that they did this was the idea being that there was the idea being that there was a cut—off point where it wasn't going to pay for people to come off universal credit and earn more money. so they were trying to fix this by doing this instead by having a more gradual kind withdrawal universal kind of withdrawal of universal credit . you know what the report credit. you know what the report kind says that for single kind of says that for single earners if you're, you know, single parent with three kids,
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you that that's kind of a situation where you might be getting credit or if you have really high housing costs. and that's predominantly who that's predominantly renters who are that . but take are affected by that. but i take your that, know, we your point that, you know, we have the question , you have to ask the question, you know, what's going on here know, what what's going on here that who you know, that people who earn, you know, £50,000 still are relying on kind of universal credit. you how do we get people off of this like very expensive benefit system and incentivise them to work and to progress. system and incentivise them to work and to progress . yeah, i work and to progress. yeah, i think i think you make a fair point because it is the people who are facing 96% rate, the kind of highest ones , the ones kind of highest ones, the ones who have three kids. the more kids you have, the more it doesn't pay . have that child doesn't pay. have that child benefit withdrawn. yeah. i mean, i'm look, i'm using a very crass example right now. i do have kids. however well, i think if i a multi—millionaire, i probably have had kids by now because as many of them as i would like. but i'm not because at the moment i can't afford to have them. and i just don't quite
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understand why the taxpayer should necessarily to should necessarily be made to pay should necessarily be made to pay people decide it's pay for people who decide it's have willy nilly. could have them willy nilly. could i ask wider question, which is ask a wider question, which is the chancellor the the current chancellor in the current reading current government reading headunes current government reading headlines the headlines today? how the government on the government waged war on the self—employed headline self—employed reading a headline middle risk of middle class families at risk of 96% rate . it does seem to be 96% tax rate. it does seem to be like everybody's getting left, right and centre at the moment by jeremy hunt and tax hikes etc. is what liz truss wanted to do and what jeremy hunt is doing. god god . i mean , i think doing. god god. i mean, i think there's the thing about the tax rises that we're all seeing by stealth. i mean, jeremy hunt essentially froze a bunch of tax. the reason this is becoming increasing problem by the end of the decade and this report kind of says the number of people facing this effective tax rate is to increase. everyone's is going to increase. everyone's going tax going to be paying more tax because these certain tax because of all these certain tax threshold . think thing threshold. i think the thing about it's worth noting, though, is he's cleaning up the of liz
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truss. so was liz truss that truss. so it was liz truss that spooked the market. it's by having a mini that wasn't run by enough experts to sign off on it and say this is sound economic policy . you know markets policy. you know markets panicked cost of borrowing went up and we ended with a hole of sort of billions pounds. but now this current is fixing and. it's trying to convince us that you this is only because of ukraine when know full well that actually it's class families that are picking up the tab or the ineptitude of the trust administration. so i think i think you know, there's an argument liz truss could have done what she wanted but i think there was just some real oversight in terms of getting the right sign from, you know, the right sign from, you know, the office for budget responsibility that have responsibility that would have landed of credibility to landed a lot of credibility to the policies that she wanted to make. and i think that was the kind of flaw and that's kind of what you would expect, prime minister to be aware of, right. delivery delivery and probably being a bit to an end as well, given valuation
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given the currency valuation we look. you very, look. alexis, thank you very, very much. i found that incredibly. appreciate incredibly. i really appreciate your that alexa your insight that alexa phillips, finance reports phillips, whose finance reports from telegraph, is coming from the telegraph, is coming your christys on gb your way patrick christys on gb news. hello there . kyle is in. news. hello there. kyle is in. here's your weather update , your here's your weather update, your headunes here's your weather update, your headlines breezy if, here's your weather update, your headlines breezy if , not windy. headlines breezy if, not windy. we're seeing outbreaks towards the north, showers to follow and a little sunshine in the mix low pressure centred across ireland . strongest winds, irish sea coast the evening as well as southern coast. this weather front clears eastern counties of england and it pivots scotland. so more wet weather to come with some hills now. so let's up on that rain rain stretches towards shetland and strong winds here returns to western scotland is another of rain moves from wales west country northern england towards more eastern areas. further showers also likely across northern ireland and they will be heavy cold in the north to start the day on thursday and with that some showery of rain, sunshine and showers , england sunshine and showers, england and wales. so through the day can some pretty quite wet
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can see some pretty quite wet weather central that weather. the central belt that will still some showers falling on a strong wind and a cluster showers which keeps northern ireland rather wet as well by. the south, most of the showers will be further south and west across england and wales they could be heavy at times with some sunshine. coming some sunshine. and coming through east where through further east where you'll see the driest interludes. even here, one you'll see the driest inttwo des. even here, one you'll see the driest inttwo showers even here, one you'll see the driest inttwo showers just| here, one you'll see the driest inttwo showers just coming ne or two showers just coming through temperatures then a notch onto some clear skies notch down onto some clear skies overnight on thursday into friday morning will allow for some ice towards the north—east as this of rain arrives across northern ireland clips. the isle of man north—west england and moves up across scotland now a rain warning in force from 3 am. on friday across central and southern parts of scotland as this rain pushes northwards and again, the risk of some above around 300 metres elsewhere on friday you'll see more in the way of cloud as another batch of rain arise the south—west and brightest guys further east you'll see further east where you'll see a start to the day on friday. so that's the picture through the next few days. what's the outlook as we head into the
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welcome back, everybody you are with me, patrick christys on gb news with you right the way through until 6 pm. on. oh, i'm back on at 8 pm. as well for good measure. covering for the wonderful mark steyn. let's krok on. there is row in the on. there is a row in the cabinet getting in the way of an overhaul counter terror overhaul to counter terror strategy . reports today are strategy. reports today are putting home secretary suella braverman in corner and give braverman in one corner and give me c secretary michael gove me and c secretary michael gove in but what does the in the other but what does the westminster sniping mean for
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national security are real concerns that a fear of offending certain elements of the muslim community are stopping this counter—terror report from being published. i don't think that's good enough. also as if that some burglaries in england and wales have unsolved and less than 6% of suspected crimes end with a charge remarkable . stats labour charge remarkable. stats labour have called it a disgrace of course they have. but i be asking a former detective why on earth is this happening? and reports that some employees have been getting boozed and been getting boozed up and having on expenses, paid having sex on all expenses, paid foreign junkets. having sex on all expenses, paid foreign junkets . they to foreign junkets. they love to see hard believe , but see it hard to believe, but could it be a security risk by leaving them open to blackmail ? leaving them open to blackmail? be asking a former met police officer exactly what a risk indeed is. i want to know what you of all of the day's stories get those emails coming in. gbp is a gb news uk the big one for you today. i want to know whether or not you feel as though we're too afraid and all security forces any way of offending certain elements muslim community actually muslim community to actually really terror
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really crack down on terror jibes uk. but now time jibes gb news uk. but now time for the latest headlines with ray . thanks, patrick. 5:01. ray. thanks, patrick. 5:01. here's the latest . two men have here's the latest. two men have been arrested on suspicion murder in connection with the stabbing . a 23 year old man in a stabbing. a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub semi , birmingham nightclub semi, professional footballer cody fisher , stabbed to death on the fisher, stabbed to death on the dancefloor of the train nightclub on boxing . hundreds of nightclub on boxing. hundreds of people were there at the time. his family say their were broken following his death . west following his death. west midlands police say a 22 year old was arrested in birmingham city centre last night whilst a 21 year old man was arrested in london london . police are london london. police are appealing for any information on the weapon used in a shooting which killed a 26 year old on christmas eve . wirral, christmas eve. wirral, merseyside police . they're merseyside police. they're working to establish whether it could be connected to any other incidents in the area. beautician elettra woods was
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fatally shot at the lighthouse in a man remains in critical condition. two people have been arrested in connection with that incident . border force staff and incident. border force staff and driving examiners are the latest to stage industrial action. members of the pc union working at multiple uk airports are continuing their strike over pay, continuing their strike over pay, jobs and conditions. driving examiners have begun a five day walkout affecting than 70 testing centres in the east of and the midlands. meanwhile on the rail network, tsa members are on strike , causing are on strike, causing disruption on the great western railway and west midlands. border control expert henry bolton says airport has been minimal . it bolton says airport has been minimal. it would seem that the government got away with this. military people will not be doing the more more involved people from abroad . they'll
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people from abroad. they'll probably be only handling brits, which is probably 95% of the traffic anyway . so yeah. but traffic anyway. so yeah. but border force got with it this time round . pope francis has time round. pope francis has asked for prayers for his former p0pe asked for prayers for his former pope benedict , saying he's very pope benedict, saying he's very sick. the vatican says pope benedict had a sudden worsening of his health in recent hours, but his condition is under control and he's receiving constant medical care. 94, 95 year old former head of the catholic became the first pope in 600 years to resign when he stepped down in 2013. pope francis asked the catholic community to, keep him in their thoughts . warwickshire football thoughts. warwickshire football . i would like to ask of you for a special prayer for pope emeritus benedict, a special prayer for pope emeritus benedict , who a special prayer for pope emeritus benedict, who in silence is sustaining the church 7 silence is sustaining the church ? let us remember. he is very sick asking the lord to console
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and sustain him in this witness of love for the church until the end . well, back to children end. well, back to children under the age of ten have died. we've strep a in scotland , the we've strep a in scotland, the first to be recorded north of the border. public health scotland's seven people in total have died from the invasive infection in the country since october. elsewhere in the uk, data from the uk health security agency shows that one children have died from the disease in england whilst children have died in belfast and wales. the government says it's urgently seeking information following reports that a number of uk iranian dual nationals been detained in iran. the iranian revolutionary guard says has arrested seven individuals due to their alleged involvement in anti—government . a number ten anti—government. a number ten spokesperson has rejected claims that the uk is inciting riots within the country and on iran to stop holding foreign nationals for diplomatic
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leverage . the north—east of leverage. the north—east of england could be the latest region to have a directly elected mayor as the government announces a £14 billion devolution deal. the arrangement would give powers over education, transport and housing to people across northumberland, newcastle and sunderland. elections the new back could take place in 2024 after a consultation process , while consultation process, while preferred provisional figures from the met office show this year has been warmest on record . by the end of the year, 2022 will have seen the highest annual temperature. it beats the record set in 2014 of just under ten degrees celsius. met office says every month apart from december has been warmer than average . senior meteorologist average. senior meteorologist jim dale told us will continue to see warm weather next year. you can't just look at this and say oh just the uk and we're
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having a bad moment, a bad couple of years. you've got to look at other places. so the pakistani floods, for example. glaciers melting in the himalayas as it took time to occur. but when it did, it was devastating eating and many, many lives lost . as i say, many lives lost. as i say, dunng many lives lost. as i say, during the round the globe. and now i'm going to say to patrick, that's going to continue in 2023 . you're watching gb news. the people's will bring you more as it happens . let's get straight it happens. let's get straight back to . back to. patrick while very controversial and contentious topic to kick start the final hour of the show no surprise to regular viewers and listeners but a new report into the prevent anti terrorism programme is expected to highlight how some groups funded by schemes actually take by the schemes actually take money off the scheme have in fact promoting an extremist fact been promoting an extremist narrative . plus he's not being
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narrative. plus he's not being released just now anyway because of a cabinet allegedly between suella braverman and michael gove, although more likely between office civil servants and michael , between office civil servants and michael, according to the times, the home secretary is ready to publish the independent review all its review and accept all its recommendations in full. but michael gove supposedly not buying into claims that they should the names of some should redact the names of some of the groups allegedly in basically taking money from , basically taking money from, prevent a counter terror programme and continue paying to pump extremist views into the young people's minds. supposedly the narrative is that it might turn them off. it might also make sure that they don't engage and prevent going forward and they might actually sue people in government . they might actually sue people in government. but is this just one big cover up i can introduce social policy and i don't rookie . but it does keep a lot of our viewers and listeners who'll be looking at this now going, yes, people offend people don't want to offend types of the muslim community and public safety is risk. types of the muslim community and public safety is risk . a and public safety is at risk. a result. well, i've said that all
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too often, patrick. our counter—extremism and counter terrorism discussions are being increasingly paralysed by the forces of political correctness and identity politics. it's certainly not islamophobia . it's certainly not islamophobia. it's not a form of anti—muslim to point out the fact that the principal terror threat in modern day britain is presented by islamist extremism . that is by islamist extremism. that is shown by recent figures regarding the wide terror related watch list back in 2020. the was in the region of 43,000. 39,000 of those individuals were islamist extremists. so in the region of 90. and it's also reflecting the prison population, the composition of prisoners who have been found guilty of terror related offences. once again, patrick predominantly makes a predominately poisonous extremists dr mo khaki. we've
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police forces around the country that one of the reasons they didn't want to get involved with the grooming gang scandal was because they didn't want to stoke racial tensions. reading between lines. report between the lines. this report is criticise several is expected to criticise several organisations how organisations and highlight how some prevent groups have some prevent funded groups have been actively promoting extremist . i can't help but feel extremist. i can't help but feel here we go again. the truth will be deemed to be too much for the british public . well, i think british public. well, i think that to my understanding , that to my understanding, according to reports which were published today , that the main published today, that the main problem here at the heart of government is that there are concerns , the home office, over concerns, the home office, over the naming of particular organisations and individuals. and the home office is fearful of legal action being taken against it. but i think that certainly have to have a very serious about how to prevent related works in britain a rule organisations that receive prevent funding or they well and
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truly to cultivating anti extremist narratives in order to fight extremist ideologies in our local communities. there's certainly a debate to be had on that front. a source close to the author of the particular report says this there is widespread unhappiness to the approach of the home office, saying, we say this or that . saying, we say this or that. organisations redacting removing certain bits they . author certain bits they. author supposedly it's frustrating it and not buying the excuses potentially an implication here that home office civil service are a bit too woke at the minute . well, i think that seen the home office civil servants have been problematic in terms of not being especially co—operative when it comes to the government's plans to shore up our national borders. i think that more generally there's a debate to be had that within the broad prevent structure you do have local agencies whether that
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may be social services , even may be social services, even agencies with health care and schools as well, that there is a possible progressive left leaning bias and that's being reflected in the ideological of cases which then referred to prevent and it has been reported that one of the main criticisms of prevent is that there is there's a over emphasis on extreme wing extremism . now, of extreme wing extremism. now, of course, that we've had numerous say that the fastest growing terror threat is presented by far right extremism. we can't lose sight of the fact that the prevailing terror threat that is presented by islamists and if people point to the idea now that there is taxpayers money being used to try to stop terrorism and islamist terrorism, specifically and some of those groups, that money is going to is actually promoting islamist . and this is an islamist. and this is an independent report and. our
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government steps in and tries to redact that or silence the dots for a key. i can't help but wonder whether or not that would cause more far right ideology in the uk . well, i think it is will the uk. well, i think it is will be problematic because think what you have there is that there'll be issues, transparency and openness . i think we need to and openness. i think we need to wait for this particular story to develop a bit more . i think to develop a bit more. i think in terms of reports which have been published on matters of counter—extremism and counter—terrorism there has to be a degree of transparency i do understand that the home office well, of legitimate, well, be fearful of legitimate, litigious organisations that may well be named in the report , but well be named in the report, but equally if it's seen some sort of institution cover up at the heart of government, then that would be especially problematic . it could reduce public confidence in. the government in terms of getting to grips, extremism terrorism more extremism and terrorism more broadly in the uk. why do you think some people are more afraid of offending the islamic
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community than they are of any other community? i think there's a degree of political correctness when it comes to issues surrounding sections of british muslim communities that really make this point. well, patrick, that if are fearful of talking about islamist extremism, they're not doing british muslims favours at all. there are british muslims whose they may not face the of the more violent elements of islamic extremism, but rather that sort of non—violent islam extremism, that victimisation oppression that victimisation oppression that comes with that , they do that comes with that, they do that comes with that, they do that on a day to day basis. so i think it's really important that we have these debates in a very open and honest manner, because ultimately it's not just doing that. it's doing the entire country, a fundamental disservice, including british muslims , the world patriotic and muslims, the world patriotic and also fearful of the islamist extremism threat . very finally, extremism threat. very finally, very quickly, would you urge them to just publish this report and hurry up with and do it in full well, not going to
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full? well, i'm not going to necessarily comment on that. i think that the home office may well concerns well have its concerns surrounding possibility of surrounding the possibility of legal action being taken against . while i would say this, the home office also have to be fearful that it doesn't look like an institute will cover up on what is a very important report on the terror threat in modern day britain . don't keep. modern day britain. don't keep. thank you very much as ever dot for keep us on the who is an expert a and when it comes to extremism etc. anti—extremism is a social policy as. now extremism etc. anti—extremism is a social policy as . now nearly a social policy as. now nearly 1000 passport control staff across britain's largest airports have walked out today although apparently to reports it's very very hard to tell. in fact, there are some reports coming out to say that the whole thing has got a lot better as part of action coordinated by the public and commercial union is staging for four days. now, though , until new year's eve. though, until new year's eve. aviation consultant john strickland joins me to this now. john, great to have you on the show. i have spoken to on national reporters, on airports
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and spoken people inside and he's spoken people inside and he's spoken people inside and everything absolutely and everything is absolutely fine to the former head fine. i spoke to the former head of force. he's me that of uk force. he's told me that the that some are strike the fact that some are on strike has made absolutely no difference. fact, it might difference. in fact, it might have things more have improved things the more you coming at it an you were coming at it from an aviation perspective. is he actually having an impact on on plane etc. well, plane companies, etc. well, patrick, so far so good. i would concur with what the other sources have told you. things seem to be going very smooth . seem to be going very smooth. the experience was always going to differ airport by airport of a different volumes of traffic , a different volumes of traffic, arguably the one which would have faced most complexity be heathrow not only because of its size and scale , but the nature size and scale, but the nature of operations at heathrow have more long flights where more long haul flights where large aircraft, airbus, a380 , large aircraft, airbus, a380, decker aircraft, for example , decker aircraft, for example, and far more nationalities, meaning not so many people proportionally would be able to go through the e—gates . but even go through the e—gates. but even heathrow has been having a good experience. i've checked in with today have indeed today and things have indeed going far more smoothly was possibly expected. of we've been
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fortunate in the last few days we got rid of the last of the bad a lot of the in terms of that uk travellers would have been outbound pre—christmas . the been outbound pre—christmas. the next few days will be a bit of test as people start to come back from holiday breaks and we'll bit of a peak we'll see a bit of a peak running up to the new. so we have to hope again that we keep reasonably weather reasonably good weather conditions importantly conditions and most importantly that seats which all that the eagle seats which all british travellers families of youngsters can use they have to all be fully used and after work sometimes we do break. i mean, at the moment is this is the worst strike ever in of terms of impact on strike has been next to no noise absolutely continuously pointless. the idea that we've got a strike so far. no nobody i told to tells me there's any impact this there's been any impact to this whatsoever. it's good, i suppose, that maybe we got. suppose, that maybe we have got. what overall service like what is the overall service like when to border force, when it comes to border force, though, heard though, at airports? i've heard , although this is when they were all at. massive massive queues people not being able to go on holidays manchester, for example, was being pummelled . example, was being pummelled.
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well, course we've had well, of course we've had problems with staff over the last few months in all parts. the aviation activity chain , the aviation activity chain, airlines, airports handling border force itself , the e—gates border force itself, the e—gates again to return that point are fundamental because that actually avoids people actually having to go to a passport office . it's a they get checked office. it's a they get checked provided they are. is this why they're on strike to interrupt, john. but is this actually kind of the rub of it or which is they now looking staff at they are now looking staff at they are now looking staff at the replacements and they don't like it? no, i don't think so. and also, apart from faxes was mentioning in terms of the good fortune, in terms of whether a more reliable tv's gates. i do have a bit of personal feedback from. an industry colleague, he came back into heathrow only, i think on christmas eve or the 23rd of december. he's a resident, doesn't have uk nationality he was obliged to get you passport desk and it was an army official working and he said what happened there was the
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particular officer in put a wrong stamp on his passport gave him a six month stay when fact he's got unlimited residency . he's got unlimited residency. he's actually been pretty stressed about that because he's completely wrong and that actually leave the uk want to come back beyond six months he could have problems he's going to take that up with border force. make sure that's right. it's just indicative . you cannot it's just indicative. you cannot expect military who are very very capable, of course, in running crisis situations, but they can't deliver over a central detail which is not apparent to the average traveller when we're looking at, for example, human trafficking and those kind of different visas and so on. that that's the thing perhaps we will not see in the smooth of the airports. obviously very obviously john, thank you very much. strickland , that who much. john strickland, that who is aviation just filling you is an aviation just filling you in on the strike that is taking place at various different airports across country at airports across the country at the know i keep taking the moment. i know i keep taking the moment. i know i keep taking the actually i do the mickey, but actually i do find quite funny, to be fair, that appears to next find quite funny, to be fair, th.no appears to next find quite funny, to be fair,
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th.no impact ppears to next find quite funny, to be fair, th.no impact aparts to next find quite funny, to be fair, th.no impact apart from next find quite funny, to be fair, th.no impact apart from the ext find quite funny, to be fair, th.no impact apart from the odd to no impact apart from the odd mist up passport that says at all airports of you have been getting touch gives our getting in touch gives our gb news dot uk on our main issue of the day which about this prevent report allegedly not being published allegedly for fares i should say all of offending certain elements of that muslim community, certain islamic groups who may have been taking money taxpayers money from the prevent scheme designed to stop terrorism and actually still pumping out terrorist ideology. lots of very, very angry. thomas says for the final time i will says for the final time i will say this i am sure it won't be the final time thomas actually are being put under threat in this country by the woke brigade and i can't help but wonder, thomas, if indeed we some people, some civil servants in the home office are saying, oh, we couldn't possibly just we couldn't possibly that just in offends people, what in case it offends people, what to what find offensive to say what i find offensive massive, terror attacks massive, massive terror attacks gb news gb news dot uk . our gb news gb news dot uk. our email got them coming in people are me patrick christys on are with me patrick christys on gb and coming. the gb news and coming. the government revealed £1,000,000,000 devolution deal
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for is underway. for the north—east is underway. we'll have the latest on what it means that region next. means for that region next. before that, it was got a little look whether . before that, it was got a little look whether. hello before that, it was got a little look whether . hello there. look at whether. hello there. i'm kaja kallas and here's weather update your headlines . weather update your headlines. breezy if not windy. we're outbreaks of rain towards the north showers to follow and a little sunshine in the mix. low pressure centred across ireland. strongest winds irish sea coast through the evening well as southern coast this weather clears eastern counties of england and it pivots across scotland so more wet weather to come here with some hills now. so let's pick up on that rain. rain stretches towards shetland and orkney. strong winds here returns to western scotland . returns to western scotland. another batch of rain moves from wales west country, northern england towards more eastern areas. further showers also likely across northern ireland and they will heavy cold in and they will be heavy cold in north start day on. and north to start the day on. and with some showery bursts of with that some showery bursts of rain, sunshine and showers for england and wales. so through day you can see some really quite wet weather across the central belt that still central belt that clear still
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some showers in on a strong wind and. a cluster of showers keeps northern ireland rather wet as well . for the south. most of the well. for the south. most of the showers will be further south and west across england. wales, they could be heavy at times with sunshine coming with some sunshine coming through further east where, you'll driest you'll see the driest interludes. even one interludes. but even here, one or showers coming or two showers just coming through. temperatures are through. temperatures then are locked down today. some locked down on today. some clearer skies overnight on thursday into friday morning will allow for some ice towards the north—east as this batch rain arise across northern ireland clips the isle of man, north—west england and up across scotland. now there's rain warning in force from 3 am. on friday across central and southern this southern of scotland as this rain pushes over northwards. and again, the risk of some snow above around 300 metres elsewhere on friday you'll see more in the way of cloud as batch of rain arise from the southwest some brighter skies further east where you'll see a cold start the day on friday. so that's the picture through the next few days what's the outlook as head the weekend as as we head into the weekend as well the rain clear on saturday
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well, welcome back. let's just what we've covered up so loads so far today whether not it's a counterterror report essentially covered up why the police aren't investigating more than a billion burglar. the reason why our conviction is down below 6% strikes a worse stronger we're seeing in life. border force went it obviously went on strike it obviously knows it's not just because of what's been going in the what's been going on in the channel what's been going on in the channel, because of channel, but because of airports. this, airports. as well. but this, dare i it might actually be dare i say it might actually be some news a £14 billion some good news a £14 billion devolution deal for the north—east levelling up north—east was by levelling up secretary michael gove today. the proposals outlined by the government could together government could bring together seven authorities and more than
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2 people the northern 2 million people in the northern under one elected mayor. the deaung under one elected mayor. the dealing close under one elected mayor. the dealing clos e £48 million of new dealing close £48 million of new funding a year over a 30 year penod funding a year over a 30 year period plus a half a million pound transport budget. there's also a £17.4 million for new homes . with me to discuss this homes. with me to discuss this announcement, it's chris chief feature for the northern echo . feature for the northern echo. chris, good stuff . great to have chris, good stuff. great to have you back on the show. what does it really for the north to the people can people think that counts. we should really just be concentrating on emptying bins but i think is a real seismic change here in the north—east we're very lucky to have seen this sort of system in operation in the tees valley where we've a conservative mayor, ben houchen , who has, i think , really , who has, i think, really spurred the region agenda in the area and he's given the tees valley an artificial region,
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he's given a real cachet and. so it's able to fight to punch above its weight. so i think people will see some difference, hopefully some it's always good for people to local control of and be able to respond more quickly than that distant place london which is a long, long way away from a of people's lives. i'm not. so ijust away from a of people's lives. i'm not. so i just read i'm not. so ijust read something that i thought was quite interesting. an odd number stood out. me so there's . point stood out. me so there's. point £4 million for new homes 17.4 million is the number of people who voted for brexit, isn't it, in the eu referendum, the north—east came through like a racehorse for the campaign . it racehorse for the campaign. it to a little bit of a nod and a wink that i, i don't know about the specifics of the numbers, but the whole red wall issue is
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very interesting in the that the people voted for brexit and then crumbled from labour into and so the tories have got to seen to be doing something in the north—east whole levelling up agendais north—east whole levelling up agenda is very very difficult means so many different things to different people from skills to different people from skills to trends and so of these things are now being brought together and people will begin to see a bit of a difference . by 2024, bit of a difference. by 2024, there will be an elected mayor perhaps so . there is definitely perhaps so. there is definitely playing to the red wall or people kind of taking back control, taking control locally, but going to be fraught with real difficulties because you will remember back in 2004, there was the regional devolution referendum we had in the north—east when a certain
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dominic cummings led the fight against an elected in regional assembly because we didn't want another or he said we didn't want another layer of politics imposed upon . so it's very imposed upon. so it's very interesting now we have a conservative government by, michael gove, that's giving us this . yes, no indeed. absolutely this. yes, no indeed. absolutely from what you can gather so far, conceivably , apart from a little conceivably, apart from a little bit more local self—determination , what could self—determination, what could this actually bring to the area? will this see any real tangible will it now be a bustling hub? well let's hope it will be a bustling hub . i think that i'm bustling hub. i think that i'm certainly in the tees valley is upon a personality , a real upon a personality, a real personality emerging in the form of ben houchen, who has a new agenda with , new ideas, national agenda with, new ideas, national housing. our local airport here and really regeneration of old steelworks exciting to europe's largest regional development commission . so that is a new big
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commission. so that is a new big idea and it's going to be interesting to see how the rest the region the north—east comes up with those big ideas there's talk of a green super port good that that may be the big idea to kind of boost trade and boost industry the green power industry the green power industry as well so that could be the big idea and that's really what these new ideas are needs to kind of get get a real grassroots and buy in is people being able to see that change is happening change for the better rather than the same churn of grey faces and councils and such . absolutely i think what's a fitting and deserving area and part of the world to actually go and get this shot in the arm chris, thank you very, very much. great to have you this show, chief nature writer at the northern it areas. right. okay. you are me patrick christys on gb news now after the of a million cases of theft and burglary without anyone being
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charged by police last year, that's an absolute shock. a conviction and rates are dropping 6% well a law dropping below 6% as well a law and people. why is and nightmare, people. why is this ? need more this happening? we need more bobbies on the beat. why do we put them ? actually, because put them? actually, because we close all the police stations. yeah, it's almost like this is an absolute but of course, an absolute mess. but of course, we our police force we keep hearing our police force is misogynistic is institutionally misogynistic and anyway so i suppose and racist. anyway so i suppose and racist. anyway so i suppose a few of people are getting stopped and searched. that's progress like and employees progress look like and employees could being left vulnerable could be being left vulnerable to blackmail. i mean this is hilarious really in a way that is in line of a rapport. the mps on one foreign visit were met the hotel by prostitutes no insinuation whatsoever . of insinuation whatsoever. of course they did anything with those prostitutes other than maybe just talk to them . the maybe just talk to them. the first you see like this headunes. first you see like this headlines . 5:32 on radisson in headlines. 5:32 on radisson in the gb newsroom, two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder in connection with the
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stabbing of a 23 year old man in a birmingham nightclub semi—professional footballer . semi—professional footballer. fisher was stabbed to death on the dancefloor of the crane on boxing day west . police arrested boxing day west. police arrested a 22 year old man in birmingham city centre night, whilst a 21 year old man was arrested . in year old man was arrested. in police are appealing for any information on the weapon used information on the weapon used in a shooting which killed a 26 year old on christmas eve in wirral, merseyside police say they are working to establish whether it could be connected to any other incidents in the area . beautician elle edwards was shot at the lighthouse in a man remains in condition. two people have been arrested in connection with that incident . border force with that incident. border force staff and examiners are the latest to stage industrial action members of the pcc's union working at multiple uk airports are continuing their
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strike over pay jobs and conditions . meanwhile driving conditions. meanwhile driving examiners have begun a five day walkout affecting than 70 testing centres on the rail network. tsa union members are also on strike. what's causing disruption on great western railway and west midlands trains 7 railway and west midlands trains ? pope francis has asked for prayers for his former pope benedict , prayers for his former pope benedict, saying he's very sick . the vatican says pope benedict had a sudden worsening his health in recent hours . had a sudden worsening his health in recent hours. his condition is under control. former head of the catholic church , the first pope in 600 church, the first pope in 600 years to resign when , he stepped years to resign when, he stepped down in 2013. the government says it's urgently seeking information following reports that a number uk iranian dual nationals have been detained in. iran. iranian revolutionary guard says it's arrested seven people due to their alleged involvement in anti—government protests . number ten
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involvement in anti—government protests. number ten has rejected claims the uk is inciting rice . it's within the inciting rice. it's within the country . we're on tv and on the country. we're on tv and on the b plus radio . this is gb news. b plus radio. this is gb news. don't go anywhere . patrick will don't go anywhere. patrick will be right back .
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welcome back, everybody. right now, uk. police been criticised for leaving over 1 now, uk. police been criticised for leaving over1 million cases of theft and burglary . for leaving over1 million cases of theft and burglary. england and wales last year, an for essentially the proportion of crime that concluded with a charge also down to just 5.4. the shadow home secretary cooper has branded the figures disgraceful. lots to a piece of black. he had to do it. former scotland yard detective, an undercover cop. peter, is this just a prime of how we can't do
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law and order on cheap? the harsh reality is, certain harsh reality is, in certain regards . the british police are regards. the british police are longer fit for purpose . we have longer fit for purpose. we have half a dozen police services in special measures . so that would special measures. so that would seem to back me on that front quite , frankly. millions of quite, frankly. millions of people who are victims of crime are not getting any service, let alone some sort of service. and consequently we have created or the police in england, wales and elsewhere in the uk have created a criminal charter. elsewhere in the uk have created a criminal charter . crooks are a criminal charter. crooks are simply getting away with . you simply getting away with. you mentioned the criminals, chancellor. i mean, read with absolute disgust on the front of the today. mother knifed to the mail today. mother knifed to death burglars her death by burglars protects her family. can't but feel as family. i can't help but feel as though those burglars know there's every chance they there's every chance that they won't why won't get caught. and that's why they go and burgle. yes and i'm going to make reference my time in police, which was between in the police, which was between the seventies and the nineties. and me make it perfectly . it and let me make it perfectly. it was from a crime nirvana
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was far from a crime nirvana that we lived in and policing had some very scary , some of had some very scary, some of which have tackled reasonably well in recent years. however the difference then to now is that the streets were a hostile environment for crooks, and that was because the police patrolled. they went out at night and they walked the beat. that simply doesn't happen. so if you were out at night and you were a night time burglar , one were a night time burglar, one of the things you had to consider and be fearful of was coming out of that shop or that home, a bump in a copper who might walk round the corner. now it didn't happen all the time. of course it. but it did happen. some of the time. and that and very robust policing did make by and large the streets hostile . and large the streets hostile. yeah.i and large the streets hostile. yeah. i find it remarkable that everything . yeah. we report on everything. yeah. we report on the percentage that britain's population has risen and then our authorities , our police, our authorities, our police, they don't go up in the same percentage whatsoever. in fact,
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they go down number of officers that we've got. so we've now got more people than we've ever had in and fewer police officers. yeah, well, of yeah, well, the decade of austerity was catastrophic for policing, you know, and boris johnson's pledge to recruit 20,000 officers, which should that should be it by march of next year, probably will be met. but really kind of glosses over the deeper malaise and that is that as many as 80 recruits through the front door officers are leaving through the back door because they are disillusioned , they are disillusioned, they are overworked . they've got dreadful overworked. they've got dreadful leadership in supervision and quite frankly, it's not a vocational job anymore. being asked to do incredibly dangerous things, incredibly difficult things, incredibly difficult things on a daily basis and run headfirst situations that are very often life and death and then afterwards it would appear to me from an outsider's perspective anyway , going perspective anyway, going overboard with with forensic level microscope , see whether or
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level microscope, see whether or not you might have accidentally misjudged someone at some point whilst you've done it. seems like a bit of a shocker really. yeah. the, the police federation does support its members. yeah. but sometimes officers don't join the federation now because they can't afford the subscriptions which of course is a concern and yes, policing is much in the spotlight , but much in the spotlight, but they've got themselves in a tangle over the years and i need to say this point that there are many officers out there as alluded to, doing brilliant stuff every day for the benefit of you, me, viewers and listeners . and for that, we are listeners. and for that, we are eternally grateful , but so often eternally grateful, but so often is lyons by donkeys and because really not a vocation where you would join an your intention throughout would be to do 30 years cops to two years three years cops to two years three years five years get over disillusioned . and of course disillusioned. and of course i've gathered some skills during those times which are very much by outside employers , incredibly by outside employers, incredibly employable people within a
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perfect skills for frankly most industries and sectors. serious question marks to whether or not we would put the police officers though boris johnson's plan to re recruit, i'll say 20,000 police officers because you close a lot of police stations. oh, absolutely catastrophic . oh, absolutely catastrophic. selling off the family. sylvia and that, of course, is all been a part of the breakdown with local communities because if somebody is victim of crime somebody now is victim of crime or they see something in their high street, in all likelihood the police station that used to thrive flourish within that high street will now be flats or a pizza. well, one of the was certainly to a cannabis factory. yes. well what we found was hilarious but not i do want to point and let's just move on now to the prevent scheme because. this was a story that i'm keen to to. we've been leading to refer to. we've been leading every hour with it now. every single hour with it now. now prevent counter—terror rusholme central. know rusholme is central. we all know the that well there's the drill that well there's a report into it and being muzzled at the minute currently at the minute as it currently stands. because suppose there are who get prevent money
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are groups who get prevent money so funds that prevent scheme design clearly to stop the spread of extremist behaviour who apparently have actually been promoting extremist behaviour those groups as we understand it islamist related concerns amongst the home office that if they are named in shame they might take legal action or actually might whip up some kind of anti islamic such was your views this shouldn't it be out that the public can find out who these groups are let me point out where cowardice is on behalf of the establishment in terms of telling the truth and telling the truth has led us this is very much connected to policing what about child exploitation stories exactly in so many communities the predominantly crime is committed by men from a particular ethnic background and the police ran shy of it. they thought they said they did as well. they didn't want to stoke a racial tensions. men of predominantly pakistani heritage and dozens upon of children were
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raped, abused used, fed drugs alcohol and horror . abominable. alcohol and horror. abominable. i'm unforgivable. things were committed to those young people who were invariably vulnerable and families were destroyed . and families were destroyed. there has been some claw back of that situation . we have seen that situation. we have seen some groups , men convicted for some groups, men convicted for these crimes . some groups, men convicted for these crimes. but some groups, men convicted for these crimes . but let's all these crimes. but let's all remember , this became the remember, this became the problem that it was because people were afraid to tell the truth . and the truth is not truth. and the truth is not something to be afraid of. yeah, indeed. and but they are afraid of it. they're afraid . potential of it. they're afraid. potential legal action. my client says that will be. well you can prove it then. he shouldn't have anything to afraid of. anything to be afraid of. i suspect afraid. really suspect they're afraid. really of painting quite of potentially painting quite a devastating, although unfortunate, picture the unfortunate, true picture to the british, which is there are groups out there, quite large scale groups and potentially large scale groups , large scale groups, predominantly of the islamist who really do not wish as well,
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because it would against the narrative. peter the far right terror is the one that we really have to watch. and of course, we do have to it. and it is on the rise and we cannot get around that. but the islamist terror threat surely is the most pressing one still, and it and it is still a sizeable threats and we need to be very grateful to our security services and our counter—terrorism police for thwarting so many plots . but of thwarting so many plots. but of course you can't always be successful and look at the dreadfully high prices that are being paid with so many people losing their lives because people get brainwashed with this terrorism radical islam is islamism ideology and they go out onto the streets and commit horrific acts. and you can just ask to be true. are you concerned that if this report is redacted, if the names of groups putting out or is watered down, the language of it is toned down that that is that could end up
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costing lives if group is shown and just i gather the evidence is not that difficult that number one they received money with they should be promoting the prevent programme. but if then on other hand they are promoting radical islam , then promoting radical islam, then let's name and shame let's put it out there. peter, thank you very much as ever my government mind and appreciate you coming in peter black to see the who is a former scotland detective, an undercover cop. lesley, you've been getting in touch with your thoughts on the lack of burglary charges on gbnews.uk pete charges is on gbnews.uk pete says is it possible that the cps requires too high a level proof before agreeing the police can charge someone or pete is actually still peter is there any truth to the double bubble ? any truth to the double bubble? is it? there is an evidence threshold needs to be met. yeah. and so cps need to be confident that they will secure a conviction , generally speaking conviction, generally speaking is where they set the okay. fantastic. just visa . hi, fantastic. just visa. hi, patrick. my csa online this by
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the way this is all a stitch up so project in my city. now have no police stations open to the pubuc no police stations open to the public and only one actually still use for office work . still in use for office work. only you need a car now to into a police headquarters. i still got nothing, pete. so when he turned out not be fancy, turned out not to be fancy, which that realistically it which is that realistically it is a bit of a shocker now that the idea of community policing has in many has gone out the window in many respects, says too many respects, simon says too many officers looking online officers looking at online nonsense. though, nonsense. i suspect, though, simon depends simon to be very much depends what online nonsense is what that online nonsense is because quite lot of because there's quite a lot of stuff online want police stuff online would want police to look at is zero leadership ability so asks, how do ability and so it asks, how do the armed forces straight the armed forces just straight them of the level pay them out of the level of pay to keep is and i think keep the is stop and i think minority m&a that's interesting stuff is a few areas in stuff there is a few areas in one there is old simon but thank you very much gbp is a gb news you very much gbp is a gb news you can keep those coming in, right? well, maybe now slightly anyway because british politicians are leaving themselves vulnerable to blackmail apparently because of their behaviour abroad. so the time is reported. the mp is on one foreign visit. well the
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hotel by sex workers, although of course there is absolutely suggestion that the mvp's pneumonia advance that the sex workers would be there or that they use their services . no they use their services. no suggestion whatsoever . it suggestion whatsoever. it boldface fears that that could lead to incriminating evidence being used against politicians. joining me now is ex police officer steve roberts . steve, officer steve roberts. steve, thank you very much. how easy is it to blackmail a boost up and pay a it to blackmail a boost up and pay a broad? there's really three distinct levels of risk here. i mean, the first one is these mop is all going as representatives of this country , not representatives of the government but as representatives of this country . and if they're behaving like drunken philanderers , then drunken philanderers, then they're damaging the reputation this country. and you know, it's unacceptable. the second level, of course, gets you into potentially blackmail, evil behaviour . potentially blackmail, evil behaviour. they shouldn't be doing where they wouldn't be
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entirely happy for their partner to say it for neighbours to know what they've done or indeed for it to appear in report on a national newspaper. and the third level is rather more sinister where they become the victims of honey trap spot by hostile governments that are actually actively looking for people in positions of power and influence who can be blackmailed into , exerting their influence into, exerting their influence into, exerting their influence in the interests that hostile country . do we just have to country. do we just have to expect if you are an mp on a foreign that your room is probably bugged and at some point someone might try set you up. i don't think we have to expect that . but employees and expect that. but employees and peers going abroad will as a matter of routine be warned . but matter of routine be warned. but that's always the potential . and that's always the potential. and of course, if you're not not doing saying anything in your bedroom that, you will worry about anybody else knowing about then. so what the people who've bugged you, if they are indeed
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bugging you , will have a very bugging you, will have a very bonng bugging you, will have a very boring evening . it does make me boring evening. it does make me laugh . reminds boring evening. it does make me laugh. reminds me of that. i think it was britain where there's the mp who's stood outside his house. he's got his wife and kids next to him and he's going you know, it's a little bit like this is just walked into my hotel room. i, i found a north korean prostitute there. and as asked her to leave all of my fell off. and before i knew it you know it does seem a little bit like this do we have to accept there may some mps are seriously employees are . in seriously current employees are. in being blackmailed. could they have been got as i think we have to accept , there is always that to accept, there is always that possibility and there is always a possibility is actually happening. now that doesn't mean that we know it means that we have to accept them, behave as though potential risks are actually real risks and insure against them. what would they do then if you're an mp who's found himself enjoying himself a bit too much abroad in a foreign
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nafion too much abroad in a foreign nation , a lady he shouldn't have nation, a lady he shouldn't have done , and you realise you are done, and you realise you are now probably the victim of blackmail. can they go to someone like when you were serving in them and say look sensitive, this one's this has happened, can you anything . happened, can you do anything. it. you say to them . it. what would you say to them. it. what would you say to them. i to them they i would say to them they wouldn't be reporting to me. they'd be reporting some of the people for me. but people who work for me. but i would say to them would be you need report it your palace need to report it to your palace of westminster security officer through them to police is an attempt to blackmail and those authorities would liaise with the security services, the intelligence services , to try intelligence services, to try and neutralise threat. but what you would have to accept is that they the future , your political they the future, your political career probably not include any access , sensitive information access, sensitive information they get. well, steve, thank you very, very much as much appreciate you coming giving your insight there . exact man, your insight there. exact man, police officer steve roberts, who putting is in on the rather
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interesting story emerged about allegations it's just allegations it's just allegations really there's absolutely no naming and shaming of employees or. indeed, genuinely, any insinuation, any of them have actually seriously done anything wrong. but just about own foreign trip, about mvp's own foreign trip, supposedly, supposedly putting himself a little bit at risk. one trip to another country involved, apparently anyway , involved, apparently anyway, he's opening that door to find prostitutes in their rooms no insinuation that they did anything with these prostitutes. right. thank you very much, everybody getting in everybody has been getting in touch the course of touch throughout the course of this show and everyone been interacting the interacting with me over the course of this week as well is our uk. lots of you were our gb news uk. lots of you were getting touch initially about getting in touch initially about what talking about when it what we're talking about when it came the prevent and came to the prevent scheme and the i'm to be the prevent programme. i'm to be back 8 pm. tonight till back at 8 pm. tonight till nine. going to back in nine. i'm going to back in on this people i think this this people because i think this an whopper. an absolute whopper. it's got a lot of hot under the collar. lot of you hot under the collar. if you are just joining us, supposedly a report supposedly there is a report that's of an independent that's about of an independent into the prevent programme. £40 million money million of taxpayers money goes in prevent programme it in to prevent programme and it is stop
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is designed to stop radicalisation or cut back or radicalised action. the implication is , it's implication anyway is, it's currently being blocked from being published why, may being published. why, you may ask? because groups have ask? well, because groups have been reported sadly receiving money from prevent scheme and continuing to actually put out extremist views to people , extremist views to people, people, etc. serious concerns that some people in the home office think, well, we can't possibly publish that. it might offend elements muslim offend elements of the muslim community. gbp, gbp uk. up next it is dewbs& co with emily carver who's retiring the studio right now . fabulous jackets, i right now. fabulous jackets, i must say . what have you got must say. what have you got coming up on your show? thank you very much indeed. well, i'm going to be following on from your show, actually going to be following on from yourasking show, actually going to be following on from yourasking whyiow, actually going to be following on from yourasking why on , actually going to be following on from yourasking why on , actuythese and asking why on earth these home office officials think it is their job to redact the names of individuals and organisations that have been accused of spreading extremist ideology . is spreading extremist ideology. is this political correctness gone mad ? are they genuinely worried mad? are they genuinely worried about sued? what on earth is
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going on there? i'm going to be asking my panel and you at home to let me know what you think. we're also going to be getting into police. why on earth, into the police. why on earth, are they solving no faith. and burglaries? that's a difficult let's and we're also going let's say. and we're also going be asking, it time to on the be asking, is it time to on the diet now after feasting over the festive period right . okay. all festive period right. okay. all right. we go . well, it's a good right. we go. well, it's a good show, apart from the diet bet emily carver will join you very, very shortly for . dewbs& co, very shortly for. dewbs& co, thank you very much. everybody's watching and listening and i've been patrick christys they'll be back together at 8 pm, but right i why that ? hello right now i why that? hello there. kaja kallas in here's there. i'm kaja kallas in here's your weather update. your headlines. breezy if not windy. we're seeing outbreaks of rain the north showers to follow and a little sunshine in the mix. low pressure centred across ireland strongest winds. irish sea coast the evening as well as southern coast . this weather southern coast. this weather front clears eastern counties of england and it pivots scotland. so more wet weather to come with
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some hills now. so let's pick up on that rain. rain stretches towards shetland and orkney. strong winds here returns to western scotland is another batch of rain moves from wales west country, northern england towards more eastern further showers also likely across northern ireland and they will be heavy cold in the north to start the day on thursday and with showery of rain, with that some showery of rain, sunshine and showers , england sunshine and showers, england and wales. so through the day you pretty quite you can see some pretty quite wet across central belt wet weather across central belt that clear still some that will clear still some showers falling in on a strong wind and a cluster of showers keeps. northern ireland, rather, as well by the south most of the showers will be further south and west across england and wales. there be at times wales. there be heavy at times with sunshine coming with some sunshine coming through where through further east where you'll driest . through further east where you'll driest. but even you'll see the driest. but even here, or showers just here, one or two showers just coming through . temperatures coming through. temperatures then are locked down on today. some clear overnight on thursday into friday morning will allow for some ice towards the north—east as this of rain arrives across northern ireland trips. the isle of man north—west england and moves up
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across scotland now there's a rain warning in force from 3 am. on friday across central and southern of scotland as this rain pushes over north—west and again, risk some snow above again, the risk some snow above around 300 metres elsewhere on friday you'll see more in the way of cloud as another batch of rain arise from the southwest and brightest guys further east where see a cold to the where you'll see a cold to the day on friday. so the picture through the next few days the outlook we head into the outlook as we head into the weekend well the rain will clear on saturday. the winds lose their sting. we'll see some dry rain in the southeast on tuesday .
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