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nonh welcome aboard, everybody is patrick christys here on gb news and i've got more on a story that i went very big on yesterday. taxpayers are funding people who support the taliban banned islamist groups and radical muslim hate preachers is according to a leaked version of , the prevent report. the labour party. they want to let victims of crime decide the perpetrator's punishment. say that now the party of law and order you can choose what unpaid the bloke who graffitied your shop window has to do. i think are quite like that actually. that will is rewriting history . that will is rewriting history. one commentator has accused them get this, they're putting a fatwa on winston churchill. does the bbc hate britain .7 patients the bbc hate britain? patients are wasting 15 hours in a in a is a good job we're paying those diversity managers five times more than we're paying nurses and they get your views coming in to me thick and fast gives gb news dot uk should we stop paying news dot uk should we stop paying money to terrorist sympathisers and do you trust labour on law and order gbv are
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gbnews.uk but right now i see headunes. gbnews.uk but right now i see headlines . good afternoon . 3:01. headlines. good afternoon. 3:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. defence secretary ben wallace says uk's response to china opening up travel abroad is review his comments after a government spokesperson said there were no plans to introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals from . china beijing arrivals from. china beijing announced . it would reopen announced. it would reopen borders next week and the country's ongoing covid surge has sparked concern. the us has become the latest country to impose mandatory testing . ben impose mandatory testing. ben wallace says he expects to some clarification. so what i think the government has said it's not going to keep that under review and review. whether different countries with covid outbreaks should obviously face should should obviously face different restrictions. i think as as we speak that is being reviewed and i'll expect to see
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some clarification. i think the department transport probably today or tomorrow . well, the today or tomorrow. well, the defence secretary also insisted uk are safe as the military steps in to cover for striking force officials, unions claim the country's borders are less secure as more than a thousand immigration officers walk out in a dispute over pay. a senior source told gb news that passport control operations, though, are running very smoothly at all six airports , a smoothly at all six airports, a third man has been arrested . third man has been arrested. suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher birmingham. the non—league football was stabbed to death on boxing day in the crane nightclub, which faces being shut down. west midlands police have said a 22 year old man has been detained in london. four others have been arrested on suspicion , assisting arrested on suspicion, assisting an offender and police . a third an offender and police. a third arrest has been made in connection. the fatal shooting of elle edwards killed outside a
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pub on christmas in wirral. merseyside police says a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of to murder. a man and a woman who were previously arrested . still were previously arrested. still being questioned by officers . being questioned by officers. ukraine's military says shot down 54 of the 69 missiles fired by russia in latest wave of strikes. air raid sirens were heard across . the country heard across. the country including in the capital kyiv 90% of the western city of lviv is reported to be without power affecting public transport and water supplies . vladimir putin water supplies. vladimir putin could be unseated by his own generals if . ukraine continues generals if. ukraine continues to make gains in its counter—offensive. that's according to the former head of the british army . speaking to gb the british army. speaking to gb news general richard dannatt said strategic losses and rapidly falling morale could see the russian leaders in forced removal . but lord dannatt removal. but lord dannatt insists it's vital uk, us and
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other allies continue to supply ukraine with western weapons . ukraine with western weapons. it's important that the european countries do want us here looking a bit wobbly. importantly, european countries stay behind home. really important that uncle sam stays behind ukraine. that's absolutely critical because the sophisticated weaponry that's going the game changer. going in is the game changer. the vatican says former pope benedict is sent a serious but stable condition after concerns were raised over his health. in a statement , it said the 95 year a statement, it said the 95 year old is lucid and had rested well overnight . yesterday, pope overnight. yesterday, pope francis called for prayers for his predecessor, warning he was very sick. the former head of the catholic church became the first pope to stand down in 600 years. back in 2013 . at least 19 years. back in 2013. at least 19 people have been killed and up to 30 are missing following a huge fire at a hotel casino in. that's according to police local media. the blaze started around midnight on wednesday at the
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grand diamond city casino on the border with thailand. police around 400 people were in the building when it caught fire. authorities are still working to determine the cause of the blaze and the deadly storm that's been sweeping across north america killed at least 69 people. now according to local media. and it's now wet and windy weather here to . the uk. the met office here to. the uk. the met office . the knock on effect of america's bomb cyclone will see spells of unsettled weather over the next 7 to 10 days. forecasters issued an amber weather alert for heavy rain tomorrow . parts of scotland tomorrow. parts of scotland warning a flooding and travel disruption . this is gb news. disruption. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens now, though. it's back to . to. patrick
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yeah. welcome aboard, everybody. now i lot more review of the government's anti terror scheme is shocking. he found that taxpayers cash was handed out groups promoting islamist extremism. the review found funding from the prevent programme initially earmarked for charities that steered young muslims away from terrorism ended up funding organisations , ended up funding organisations, promoted extreme islamist ideas. the report, led by the former head of the charity commission, william shawcross says that these misdirected funds undermine prevent stability , undermine prevent stability, effectively undertake counter radicalisation work. you will not believe some of the shocking detail in this and i'm going to get stuck right the middle of it right now. joining me to analyse this is anglican priest and commentator washington. commentator gavin washington. gavin much. just gavin thank you very much. just before go to you, i want to before i go to you, i want to read a couple of quotes here from the report saying of this report, the report cites examples leader examples including the leader a prevent society prevent funded civil society which public favourable in which made public favourable in support of to the taliban. had referred to militant islamist
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groups proscribed in the uk as legitimate resistance groups and. said that muslim members of the armed forces should refuse orders. shockingly, though most shocking is if that wasn't enough serious question marks as to whether not prevent deliberately these people. your views . will shawcross himself views. will shawcross himself says this is such an astonishing thing to happen that either the people who are running prevention are really incompetent. they can't tell the difference between . a benign difference between. a benign islamic group and one that wants to fund terror or else are doing it deliberately . so it's very it deliberately. so it's very hard to believe that people who have been in this fairly sophisticated game for decades can't tell the difference . and i can't tell the difference. and i think you have to assume they can reverse refute it, think you have to assume they can reverse refute it , that this can reverse refute it, that this is some form of deliberate . and is some form of deliberate. and part of the problem is that it's put in a context that is put in a context where people in the administration that run country have taken some very strange that are very against christians and for muslims. in
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that are very against christians and for muslims . in 2008, we and for muslims. in 2008, we didn't admit a single christian syrian were all muslims who ianed syrian were all muslims who invited him . he was refused invited him. he was refused asylum in case it provoked the islamic community. it's there is there's an inconsistency here which looks as though it is more than simply incompetence. and if it is you, do you think having just just reading between the lines of what you've said that do you think that we currently live in a country where people would inclined to would be more inclined to radical extremist ordinary radical extremist than ordinary christianity . there's no doubt christianity. there's no doubt at all if you go back to the 2008 issue of bringing in syrian a large number of christian organisations were saying there are good of syrian christians. we are a christian country nominally let's give the syrian christians asylum here. not a single one was allowed in by the home office. you have to ask, why is that? what kind of what kind of attitude lies behind that sort of public policy ? and that sort of public policy? and then you have to say, if this if that kind of attitude is extended towards the running to
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prevent and discover they're prevent and you discover they're giving organisations giving money to organisations that setting a fifth that call for setting up a fifth columnists army to columnists within the army to refuse you have to say refuse orders you have to say that it's accidental that either it's accidental incompetence running the incompetence running through the whole deliberate . whole thing or it's deliberate. why be deliberate why would it be deliberate incompetence? because that would imply to me that we've been infiltrated infiltrated . all i'm infiltrated infiltrated. all i'm trying to do at the moment is present dots is for other people to join dots themselves into a pattern . and i'm trying very pattern. and i'm trying very hard to avoid conspiracy theories. i'm trying hard to avoid the. but but fact is that you have to give this fact to islam. it's a very serious and it has some very clear sighted ambitions . and they are ambitions. and they are political , which ambitions. and they are political, which is half political, which is half political and half religious. it's a it's a composite way of looking at the life. and we know already that within our within our islamic cities, the islamic communities have, quite rightly and understandably made a made strong efforts to get themselves
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represented in. this is not a this is not a group of people who who take a neutral view as , who who take a neutral view as, the place they play in society. they would like any society they would like to live in would like it be overtly muslim it to be an overtly muslim society. it would very society. and it would very strange if they didn't set out to that. they don't make any secret of it. it's just that we, the lib, the liberal in this country, refuses take them country, refuses to take them when it . this is when they say it. this is fundamentalism posed to be anyway. i counter radicalisation programme if indeed emerges that money has been given to people who support the who have welcomed extremist preachers into mosques . who believes that into mosques. who believes that members of our armed who are muslims should refuse orders who think that militant islamist groups are prescribed in the uk as legitimate resistance . and as legitimate resistance. and those are facts . if they are those are facts. if they are facts and they turn out to be
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facts and they turn out to be facts , then the only solution facts, then the only solution i can conclude as to why that wouldn't be publish and why that wouldn't be publish and why that wouldn't be publish and why that wouldn't be outlined in this report is because, as a source close to mr. shawcross , author close to mr. shawcross, author of this report, says home officials are terrified of looking like they are picking on but fact get in the way of anything. should they ? well, anything. should they? well, they certainly shouldn't . i they certainly shouldn't. i mean, that's a more benign interpretation than the one i'm inclined to . they say that that inclined to. they say that that to say that they're of islamophobia , that may be true , islamophobia, that may be true, but what's very odd here is that prevent which is set up deliberately to deal global islamic terrorism in this country has decided put the larger proportion of its into looking into right wing extremism . now all extremism and extremism. now all extremism and terrorism is terrible it's inhumane and it's awful but it's a fact you google it that in the last 40 years, 40% of the of the
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casualties across the world have been at the hands. can i just localise that governor a bit as well? and it's a good point you've made. i just want to really drill down on this because i happen to have some numbers front me here. the numbers in front me here. the total number of terror attacks and deaths, 2005 in the uk. 13 attacks. 106 people killed. the total number far right terror attacks and deaths in two since 2005. in the uk , three attacks, 2005. in the uk, three attacks, three killed , 35 times more three killed, 35 times more people have been by islamist attacks than far right attacks in the uk since 2005. do you find it slightly perplexing that a report will choose focus on the far right issue ? well, i'm the far right issue? well, i'm not i'm much i'm worried. it's more serious than that, because what you've just actually is represented a colossal world. it's nice to know that the balance of terrorism in our country is roughly proportionate to across the world where you find this this great predominance. i mean , you predominance. i mean, you describe me as an anglican but i'm a catholic now and i have a of friends who are catholic
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bishops in nigeria and . the bishops in nigeria and. the murder that's taking place by islamic tribesmen in nigeria catholic communities is appalling and no one takes any nofice appalling and no one takes any notice of it. the idea in our country where we have people for fifth columnists, islamic groups to be set privately and secretly that they want to go and look at right wing terrorism and spend majority of their resources doing that . it doesn't suggest doing that. it doesn't suggest it's incompetence. it suggests it's incompetence. it suggests it's strategic and if it's strategic, that suggests prejudice and if it's prejudice, we need to expose it for what it is. and them accountable for it . gavin, are you afraid that we all just sleepwalking into a disaster here ? well, i. and i'll disaster here? well, i. and i'll tell you why i'm i mean, i was very much involved in islam mick and christian dialogue whilst was a university lecturer, but had some friends who were muslims. and i in 2002, one of them said to me as , we were them said to me as, we were leaving a conference together. my leaving a conference together. my work is done now . my
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my work is done now. my grandchildren will inherit an islamic of great britain and here are the demographic. islamic of great britain and here are the demographic . and i here are the demographic. and i mean, i was shocked. i went away and i looked them and he was exactly right . demography and exactly right. demography and democracy means that by 2050, 2060, the majority people in this country will be islamic . this country will be islamic. i'm very sorry to say that what we're dealing with at the moment is the road map to how we get there. but we could it down a bit, or at least we could make it slightly more benign and restrain the terrorism and, the violence, by taking responsibility . it is quite responsibility. it is quite incredible to me that we are governed by people who wouldn't do that. yeah, i mean, look, natural demographic change is one thing, but actually hurtling towards a situation or just existing in a situation , existing in a situation, taxpayers are funding groups under the guise of stopping extremism. and those groups actively promote extremism , it actively promote extremism, it seems quite self—defeating if the fear element is true and this report is being redacted ,
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this report is being redacted, not through some kind of use of conspiracy theory, i'm not. it is, to be honest with you, but deep state interference with this kind of stuff, if indeed it is just out of fear, that fear comes out of british public, the ordinary members, the british pubuc ordinary members, the british public not being able to see what they see going before them because they're afraid of being called or islamophobic . called racist or islamophobic. at what point does someone have to grasp the netherlands say, well, here are the results . but well, here are the results. but look, have a duty to our look, we have a duty to our friendly islamic neighbours. a few of whom they're the fa, the majority . and we have to make majority. and we have to make sure that they not tarred by same brush as the extremists and that any kind of reaction that kind. this behaviour promotes doesn't damage them. it islamic syriac to with this properly because we are defending the vast majority of our muslim neighbours from from a for the consequences of this. it's not islamophobic the idea that that islamophobic the idea that that i mean it's a non—state line
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tends to go against all muslims come from a wide variety of races so. you can't be racist if you are hesitant about islam. and they cover a wide and secondly they cover a wide variety of responses to their host communities. variety of responses to their host communities . some integrate host communities. some integrate beautifully perfectly . beautifully and perfectly. they're absolutely marvellous people and we people and neighbours and we should them . it's not should protect them. it's not islamophobic to call this a radical elements of it. yeah exactly. yeah, exactly. gavin you very, very much coming national that former anglican catholic layman and author in response to this leaked report about our prevent scheme, which if just joining us, it pays to outline that taxpayers used earmarked to tackle radicalisation and. extremism in this country may well have actually been sent to groups who support the taliban radical preachers and members of the armed forces who are muslim to not orders. in response not follow orders. in response to the downing street have said the in due the review will published in due course. remains right that we course. it remains right that we take the time to prepare deliver a response always a considered response always said remains a vital said prevent remains a vital tool for early intervention and safeguarding your on this latest
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channel welcome. wonderful. people love our inbox. gb news a gbnews.uk has popped off in response to the story that we're leading the last hour with and every single hour throughout the course of. the show, which is extremist groups by the allegedly groups funded by the allegedly taxpayers money, has been sent to . groups who support the to. groups who support the taliban who support radical hate preachers and who want members of our armed forces who appear to be muslim to disobey orders . to be muslim to disobey orders. and the controversy around , and the controversy around, apart from all of it, really is supposedly the government doesn't want publish report doesn't want to publish report for fear of you gossip, offending certain elements of the muslim community. well, pete has been on this cowardly government and got to name government and she's got to name terrorists supporting entities for a legal challenge . for fear of a legal challenge. then can't mp simply debate then why can't mp simply debate them a really them in. and it's a really interesting point that people because have because they would have parliamentary privilege,
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wouldn't they? i wouldn't they? yes, 100. i actually agree with you on that one. a lot of you say this one. and a lot of you say this is actually too much. now, here we go. this is one from janet. thank you very much, janet. make sure views keep coming. and sure your views keep coming. and joan i'm and tired of joan says, i'm sick and tired of the truth out. and that's the truth must out. and that's concern, which concern, janet, which is if people too scared of people will be too scared of a backlash for truth to come backlash for the truth to come out. saw it with grooming out. we saw it with grooming gangs, we've it front and gangs, we've seen it front and centre up and down the country. it happened again. but it kind of happened again. but we'll for that we'll return this for now that we're moving because the we're moving on because the victims anti—social behaviour victims of anti—social behaviour could punished could how offenders are punished under labour's plans to get a grip on britain. this is grip on lawless britain. this is fascinating actually, and i think , i think i'm in favour of think, i think i'm in favour of it . let's just find out. shadow it. let's just find out. shadow justice secretary steve reid said will be at the said prevention will be at the heart of their approach. so shocking reveal nearly 2 million reports of anti—social behaviour were just ignored over the past three years. yesterday i covered a million burglaries a pretty much gone uninvestigated anyway, reid said under his plans, victims will be able to the unpaid that offenders can
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unpaid work that offenders can carry out. so victims will see justice being done, i.e. you know, griffey sees your car or something and they caught for it, which would be a fine thing, wouldn't it? but they got caught for it and they got given unpaid work. you might be able to choose what unpaid work actually do. don't think this do. i don't think i hate this houday do. i don't think i hate this holiday anyway, give her holiday anyway, so give her view. now by view. i'm joined now by journalist political journalist, political commentator suzanne evans. suzanne, we get suzanne, just before we get stuck idea that labour now stuck into idea that labour now trying to bracket themselves as the party of law and order, which is this which i do think is this specific thing is quite a good idea. is it not? well not so sure, to be honest. i mean, i can see it's sort of a situation where basically have criminals who are treated very unequally because, course what because, of course what each individual wants might be individual victim wants might be very different. but what do you do if you have a victim that says, they've had a terribly says, oh, they've had a terribly tough life, i forgive them. i don't think they should have any punishment. do then? punishment. what do you do then? well, it is still going to well, is it is it still going to have come up have to come up with a punishment? yeah, but isn't justice more about the victim feeling as though justice has
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been served? and if that decides that they feel as though, you know , toby has had an absolute know, toby has had an absolute shocking he never met his dad and really set him on a path to criminality and that they don't want him to have any punishment . the victim is all square except if you've got another victim in the same set circumstances. and they think the punishment would be as tough as possible . it's just becomes a as possible. it's just becomes a sort of a postcode lottery, doesn't it? if you were a criminal network, might criminal network, you might argue criminal you haven't argue as a criminal you haven't got you just got rights. then you just have to deal whatever is handed to deal with whatever is handed out you. but i think out to you. but i think sentencing has got to be consistent my worry is this consistent and my worry is this is this isn't going to be consistent and i think this fundamentally patrick the problem with what the labour party has announced you know yesterday were the yesterday they were accusing the government of being obsessed with gimmicks after the figures showed that more than a million thefts went on solved last year. and yes, that is . what have and yes, that is. but what have we here now from the labour party? well would argue it's
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another gimmick. this idea about victims choosing unpaid work punishment know they're going to be tough on the crime again and tough on the causes of crime. that was tony blair's slogan. now they've got a new one prevent crime, punish criminals , protect victims. it's another great. but there's no real detail . there's no real detail detail. there's no real detail about how this ability for victims to choose these unpaid work punished is actually going to work. there's not even any agreement or in that proposal about what behaviour is talking about what behaviour is talking about tackling anti—social behaviour. but what is that ? behaviour. but what is that? that covers a whole gamut . that covers a whole gamut. issues, some of which of course, such as noise, are actually enforced by local councils rather than the police. yeah. and also they have failed to say how they're going to address the core issue which is that these anti—social behaviour problems are being brought to are not even being brought to book first so there's book in first place. so there's the labour be on a sticky wicket . will they not seize on when it comes to trying to bracket themselves as the party law and
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order? i don't remember huge order? i don't remember a huge amount coming out amount of them coming out massively old defund amount of them coming out maspolice old defund amount of them coming out maspolice stuff. old defund amount of them coming out maspolice stuff. i old defund amount of them coming out maspolice stuff. i rememberjnd the police stuff. i remember a couple of them taking knee quite famously and certainly when it comes to stop and well, they don't really want, do comes to stop and well, they don't really want , do they? how don't really want, do they? how could they be tough law and order if they want to take the knee, defund police knee, maybe defund the police and think that people who and don't think that people who are carrying should are carrying knives should actually exactly actually looked at. exactly right. let's not forget, you know, actually took right. let's not forget, you kno knee actually took right. let's not forget, you kno knee for actually took right. let's not forget, you kno knee for george actually took right. let's not forget, you kno knee for george floyd .y took right. let's not forget, you kno knee for george floyd afterk the knee for george floyd after his which okay. he didn't deserve to die . he did. but he deserve to die. he did. but he was, at the end of the day, a violent criminal. but here we are. you know how much of this is kind of actual policy making on behalf of the labour party and how of it is just trying to park their tank the conservatives lawn? recently had keir starmer trying to look tough on immigration. now he's trying to look tough on law and order. but of course some us haven't forgotten that he was director public prosecutions director of public prosecutions for numerous years arguably for numerous years and arguably failed in that job in many different ways . he failed to different ways. he failed to address the grooming gangs
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issue, something for which he subsequently apologised . he subsequently apologised. he failed to prosecute or investigate jemmy savile . he investigate jemmy savile. he failed to prosecute serial rapist john warboys for an additional 75 sexual assaults . additional 75 sexual assaults. in addition to the 12 he was convicted for, which almost led to him being led to him being let out of jail. he failed to prosecute doctors who were carrying out abortions on the grounds sex selection only a survey of cps staff at the time that he was deep suggested that only 12% of them thought he was doing a good job. you could also look at the way in which labour of the country are operating , of the country are operating, say, well, actually labour's not doing such a good job on crime . doing such a good job on crime. you've got london over 13,000 knife crimes every year. wales again led by a labour administration , you've got administration, you've got pubuc administration, you've got public order offences have gone up some 500% in some parts of the country . violent and sexual the country. violent and sexual offences up anti—social
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behaviour is up. drug crime, possession of weapons . and then possession of weapons. and then in manchester under labour mayor andy burnham , the police were andy burnham, the police were put into special measures for two years until october this year , failing to record more year, failing to record more than 80,000 crimes in one year. so the record is not good on this they know i guess all of that and i do know that keir starmer does issue very robust defence of his time as the head of public prosecutions head of the cps . one of my concerns the cps. one of my concerns about this, which frankly i do think is impossible to get around for the conservative party, is that the conservative used to have conservative values. some would argue that some of those was to be strong on law and order. when i look at national pictures for england and wales where the chances of a suspect being charged is down to 5.4% from 15, seven years ago, whilst it's all very well and good highlighting labour that where crime is rampant. the fact
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is that the tories have failed when comes to things like illegal immigration. if well, when it comes to things like net immigration, they fail. when it comes to handling our particularly well, you could argue they failed civil liberties during the coronavirus crisis frankly they have crisis and frankly they have failed law and order. young failed on law and order. young people get on the housing people can't get on the housing ladder and i'm ladder of this stuff. and i'm sorry is looking sorry but it is looking increasingly like help me out on this right now . could things this right now. could things actually under labour? actually get worse under labour? well it's quite interesting, isn't it? i've had several people say recently that actually got a socialist government that moment. so what's the difference whether ? what's the difference whether? you vote labour or tory at the next election because we're already sort of already there. there's sort of an equilibrium between the two, if like so could get if you like. so could it get worse? well obviously that's something predict . something nobody can predict. who knows? it's keir starmer is genuinely determined to get a handle on immigration . if he's handle on immigration. if he's genuinely determined to get a handle on law and order. arguably that famous phrase things could get better. but as you politics is impossible you say, politics is impossible to predict. and this is the problem, it? parties come
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problem, isn't it? parties come up with their manifesto and they don't cost to them. they don't think them through. they come up against problems when they're trying to legislation trying to get legislation through their through the house that their aren't going work or are aren't going to work or are going to be against them. so even even a brilliant party manifesto that everyone agrees could hit the buffers . that's could hit the buffers. that's why we say it could, but also increasingly in its politics and personality, a little bit like a presidential style thing. boris of course, absolutely crushed corbyn in terms of those two personalities. yeah, there was only going to be one winner. that magic grump didn't stand a chance, he? but when you chance, did he? but when you look now, sunak plans look at now, rishi sunak plans to focussed on. but yeah, to be focussed on. but yeah, i would argue so. wouldn't bird's nest in him. but actually, if he starts come up with things like this that at least look good on papen this that at least look good on paper, maybe just maybe, he will when you very when she's on. thank you very much. could talk all much. i could talk to you all day, but we'll have to leave. that's. he's out. evans politician. commentator you will be christys news. be patrick christys on gb news. coming is the national trust coming up is the national trust warns extreme will warns that extreme weather will
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the don't do more to the norm if we don't do more to tackle should we tackle climate change, should we be or is this just be more worried or is this just more scare mongering? will be more scare mongering? i will be joined by the national trust climate change adviser keith jones shortly. keep emails coming gbviews@gbnews.uk. jones shortly. keep emails coming gbviews@gbnews.uk . two coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk. two big right at the top of the big ones right at the top of the show. should we stop giving taxpayers money to extremist groups? and trust on law groups? and do you trust on law and but now your and order? but now as your headunes. and order? but now as your headlines . patrick thank good headlines. patrick thank good afternoon it's 331. your top stories from the gb newsroom. defence secretary ben says the uk's response china opening up travel is under review . his travel is under review. his comments come after governments said there were no plans introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals from . china. tests for arrivals from. china. beijing announced would reopen borders next week and the country's ongoing covid surge sparked concern. the us has become the latest country to impose mandatory testing . by the
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impose mandatory testing. by the vatican, says former benedict is in a serious but stable condition after concerns were raised over his health. in a statement , it raised over his health. in a statement, it said raised over his health. in a statement , it said the 95 raised over his health. in a statement, it said the 95 year old had rested well during the night and is lucid under. yesterday, pope francis called for prayers for his predecessor warning. he was very sick in 2013. the former head , the 2013. the former head, the catholic church, became the first pope to stand down in 600 years. ukraine's says it's shot down 54 of the 69 missiles fired by russia in the latest wave of strikes . air raid sirens were strikes. air raid sirens were heard across . the country, heard across. the country, including in the council cave. 90% of the western city of lviv is reported to be without power, affecting public transport and water supplies . a third man has water supplies. a third man has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher . the non—league fisher. the non—league footballer was stabbed to death on boxing day in a birmingham
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which now faces being shut down. west midlands police says a 22 year old man has been detained in london for office have been arrested on suspicion . assisting arrested on suspicion. assisting an offender . arrested on suspicion. assisting an offender. and police say a third arrest has been made in connection with. the fatal shooting of elle edwards killed outside a pub in worland christmas eve. merseyside police says a 31 year old man from tranmere has arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder . another suspicion of conspiracy to murder. another man and a woman are still questioned by officers officers . tv online under a officers. tv online under a b plus radio. this is gb news. don't go anywhere. patrick will. be back in just a moment.
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welcome back. also, if you've been getting in touch with your thoughts on labour's to tackle anti—social behaviour by putting allowing the victim to basically set the punishment right. paul says it the victim open says, it leaves the victim open to constant from the anti—social friends , the offender. friends, the offender. punishment always remain with a court of law. yes, i suppose i that could be a situation. couldn't they actually find out what punishment you've given ? what punishment you've given? and they can run your house and make your life miserable? michelle says, what the michelle says, what if the victim afraid of the person such persons crime? persons who committed the crime? they of the they could be afraid of the reprisals. yes, because a of reprisals. yes, because a lot of anti—social behaviour might, because if because your neighbour, if they're out or they're blasting music out or they're blasting music out or they into a drug, they turn next door into a drug, something. suppose something. i suppose you wouldn't maybe wouldn't want to. maybe bite them, do a bit hard graft just in case and says surely now is the to bring in boot camps the time to bring in boot camps by exercise. para by exercise. empower para veterans of these unruly veterans men out of these unruly street i am all in street urchins. i am all in favour of more military style schools for people. actually schools for people. i actually really think that. a really do think that. so a few of them out. anyway , there of them out. but anyway, there you christys britain you go. patrick christys britain a bleak place is coming in a dark bleak place is coming in gbp- a dark bleak place is coming in gbp.xr a dark bleak place is coming in gbp. xr gb news dot uk.
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a dark bleak place is coming in gbp. xr gb news dot uk . we've gbp. xr gb news dot uk. we've spoken about that. we've spoken about prevent scheme about the prevent scheme allegedly anyway dishing out a boatload taxpayer's cash to boatload of taxpayer's cash to people support the taliban people who support the taliban and of our armed and want members of our armed forces happen to muslims to forces happen to be muslims to refuse to so scheme, refuse orders. to so scheme, it would is working really would appear is working really really well. we'll talk about that but now it's been that on but now it's been a pretty year for weather pretty wild year for weather with several storms battering britain degree heat and a recent cold snap bringing ice and snow before bad. but should we be worried if weather events like this become the norm or is it just weather? well, the national trust thinks so. and warned that there will be, quote, stone challenges for nature if mitigating steps against climate change are not taken in the uk. well i am joined now by the national climate change adviser keith jones. keith you're absolutely terrified about the weather, are you? always have been. weather, are you? always have been . what what's what's the been. what what's what's the impact . that been. what what's what's the impact. that we need to we been. what what's what's the impact . that we need to we need impact. that we need to we need to do more taxes to high have a greater happy can only scam
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scare mongering only get you so far. we need to show what's possible . that's the thing that possible. that's the thing that everyone everybody needs to know. what can i do? our decision making is based on evidence. what we're seeing at our property, the properties. that's single most important thing that we do. what we're seeing things that haven't happened before to nature and nature in a good place. so this is why we've been doing this review now for years. and so there is a consistency in, the message. also, it's not a new warning. we've been doing this. we've been issuing reports since 2005 as well. as you , say, 2005 as well. as you, say, you're seeing things you haven't seen before. and that's not just properties of mine. i tried go and one around magnet and visit one around the magnet area other weekend . that area the other weekend. that was remarkably stuck in anyway to learn. i how to pay per person in my car as opposed to just paying in my car as opposed to just paying one car. we turned around and drove off . but that's one and drove off. but that's one way to combat change, way to combat climate change, isn't know, fewer people isn't it. you know, fewer people tracing if essentially tracing the path if essentially charge them have them.
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charge them how you have them. but what are you seeing at your national trust properties? what's change what's the impacts of the change on trust? on the national trust? well, it's whole litany of impacts , it's whole litany of impacts, seeing everything from wildfire to flooding to overheating , to flooding to overheating, rivers drying up to bats falling out of the air in the of the day because they're overheated. there's loads of things that we're seeing across the across the scale for nature. so what do we need to do? come on in. charge now of the government's environment policy. what needs to happen ? we've got the plans to happen? we've got the plans already. there are everywhere . already. there are everywhere. we need to start the doing bit. we need to start the doing bit. we should stop talking. we should start doing. and it's not. we're not about extreme things . we're talking about things. we're talking about making space nature, doing less harmful things to nature. we're not about any draconian measures . we're looking at creating a better better britain . are you better better britain. are you worried that we're going to lose national trust habitats? i'd if we don't act now . it's not
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we don't act now. it's not specific to national trust where we're going to see changes in habitats and species makes all over the world, specifically the bit that we're looking after , bit that we're looking after, we're seeing impacts today. we're forming our decision making based on evidence . what making based on evidence. what we're seeing at our this is not theoretical . this is we're theoretical. this is we're seeing stuff happening . i'm just seeing stuff happening. i'm just wondering know you say you've always been banging on about this not got anything to do with the fact that the national trust has allegedly i'm sure you've the report has been taken over by woke we all know that the by the woke we all know that the woke brigade care a lot about the environment they. this the environment don't they. this just working in the just that ip working in the national trust. is my 23rd year based on work working on evidence based on doing right thing in the right place . that's thing in the right place. that's what we're doing. we're working with the vision for. the national trust is forever for everyone that that's what we're doing today. okay. alright, look, thank you very much, katie jones, who is the trust's
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climate change adviser. what do you make of all of this agent, jones? have you noticed massive changes, the weather? i suppose that are actually various that there are actually various different changes, or different changes, whether or not cyclical not they're normal or cyclical or humans got anything or that humans have got anything to it, suppose is to do with it, i suppose is another matter. vaiews@gbnews.uk and talking about inbox, loads you have about inbox, loads of you have getting with your getting in touch with your thoughts very another getting in touch with your thougsays very another getting in touch with your thougsays responsey another getting in touch with your thougsays response toanother getting in touch with your thougsays response to national keith says response to national trust keith is this the same national trust which involved so many self—righteous, deeply patronising, woke crusade , patronising, woke crusade, obsessively focussed on distorted, biased of british colonialism, slavery and feminism , egregiously neglecting feminism, egregiously neglecting the purposes which the charity was established . i wonder was established. i wonder whether this keith used to work at the national trust? yeah. no, not , it is climbing not surprisingly, it is climbing on change bandwagon on the climate change bandwagon . look, that particular keith that on for national that we had on for national trust seems an trust that seems like an absolutely lovely bloke and clearly passionate clearly has very passionate views and we views the environment and we don't lose national don't want to lose national trust, do we? but one thing i will say, though, is if they've decided on kind decided to embark on some kind of agenda which pay of big woke agenda which pay as they focussed things they have focussed on things like yes. by like colonialism and. yes. by the this is a thing i want
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the way, this is a thing i want to drive into a trust car park the other way to with my family for and there were three for a walk. and there were three of in car and instead of of us in the car and instead of charging us for car, they charging us for the car, they wanted to charge us per person in car . i wanted to charge us per person in car. i am not going to in that car. i am not going to pay in that car. i am not going to pay 60 quid for a walk. i'm not going to do it. i'm sorry. we turned around. we drove off. we park around the corner. we just found failed. as found another failed. as i suspect lot of people will do. suspect a lot of people will do. maybe national trust could maybe the national trust could focus. more on primary focus. more on its primary strategy. anyway. strategy. i don't know anyway. i don't anyway, there we go. don't know. anyway, there we go. gives the gbnews.uk is that email address to get in email address for you to get in touch? recovery today touch? recovery loads today we're coming absolutely close. we done we have already done the radicalisation stuff. we're going returning that going to keep returning to that because groups now in because extremist groups now in emergencies being emergencies may, well we being funded taxpayer the funded by the taxpayer the prevent program designed stop prevent program designed to stop radicalisation source stop radicalisation at source stop before it comes a problem supposedly has been giving millions of pounds taxpayers millions of pounds and taxpayers to that support the to groups that support the taliban radical islamist preachers and want people who are in our armed forces who happen to muslim to turn down orders. big shocker for this orders. the big shocker for this for now apart from all of it,
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for me now apart from all of it, really is this supposedly the home wants cover up home office wants to cover up because are afraid of, because they are afraid of, looking picking on looking like they are picking on muslims. the quote. muslims. that's the quote. that's quote they wanted to that's the quote they wanted to spin supposedly make spin this report supposedly make it on the far threat it focus more on the far threat which have been described as accounts off kilter to the most pressing terror threats in this country. do think that country. why do you think that is really really shocking is a really really shocking quote which the finding raised serious questions about whether privacy it is knowingly taking this approach, i.e, knowingly giving money to groups that support terrorist organisations like the taliban it does is if free will then to that throughout the course of the show. but coming isn't it time the bbc stopped apologising for our country's history or just the woke bbc now? actually hate britain? oxford university lecturer . dr. britain? oxford university lecturer. dr. marie coulthard due to weighs in after break. stay tuned .
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welcome back . now more of you welcome back. now more of you have been getting in about labour's plans to tackle anti—social behaviour. carol says i don't think the will work. by the way, the plan was part of a few different elements of it, but what done to standout bits you are victim of bits was if you are victim of anti—social behaviour because that's around million that's saying around 2 million cases behaviour cases of anti—social behaviour just unaccounted. one just went unaccounted. no one received punishment, one received any punishment, no one was the last was caught. that's in the last year. was caught. that's in the last year . and what they're saying is year. and what they're saying is we, allow you to choose we, will allow you to choose what work this person does as punishment. there is definitely a joke to be had in there about the labour policy allowing people to choose what unpaid labour people i won't labour people do. but i won't make anyway. carol says make it anyway. carol says i don't will work. don't think the plan will work. i told community services i was told community services were a joke. turned the were a joke. they turned the clock doing an hour so clock on doing an hour or so then going so unless it is then going home. so unless it is properly supervised is properly supervised then it is pointless. would you though not feel a little bit of personal
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being able say that that being able to say that that person dredge out a canal person has to dredge out a canal or i them to do sewing or whatever, just something, you know, menial well, maybe you would feel like justice had been served . i suppose the problem served. i suppose the problem for me be whether not that for me would be whether not that person is allowed choose to person is allowed to choose to not them because was the not punish them because was the case.i not punish them because was the case. i think that's a problem because it's your because let's say it's your neighbour is literally in neighbour who is literally in court anti—social behaviour court over anti—social behaviour against you. i imagine that no . against you. i imagine that no. the individuals in the the nicest individuals in the world. i imagine that you probably want to make probably wouldn't want to make them even angrier. you know, just in case so you're just in case and so you're putting and crimes. oh putting more and crimes. oh no, no. let off and then no no. just let him off and then no justice got up anyway. kevin justice got set up anyway. kevin says understanding says my understanding of the plan that judge decide plan is that judge will decide on hours unpaid work on how many hours unpaid work the will he's the criminal will do. he's answering question. then answering my question. and then the decide that the the victim might decide that the 200 should be gardening 200 hours should be gardening for people or litter picking for old people or litter picking or up dog mess in park. or cleaning up dog mess in park. right. good summer dog mess knocking hate when knocking about. i hate when people their dog mess people leave their dog mess on trees . you know, when people trees. you know, when people pick them up, do it in the back and on a tree and leave
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and tie it on a tree and leave there like poo tree. yeah it there like a poo tree. yeah it really they say, oh, don't worry, back. it worry, i'm coming back. it you're back for it, you're not coming back for it, sally. i think you got in your car anyway. it's not time to decide not the victim decide whether or not the victim should be punished. should actually be punished. it's judge should do it. it's the judge who should do it. that's that. right. that's another that. right. anyway, bbc anyway, the bbc moving. the bbc is rewriting history to promote a group a woke agenda. a group of leading warned leading historians warned something. we thought we all knew. from history knew. the report from history records cites examples records cites multiple examples of what describe as bias in the national broadcaster's documentaries and. it accuses the corporation of failing to offer impartiality . to weigh in offer impartiality. to weigh in on this. i am joined now by oxford university lecturer dr. marie coulter. daouda thank you very much for joining marie coulter. daouda thank you very much forjoining me. now the bbc. how were they rewriting 7 the bbc. how were they rewriting ? history, if indeed they are . ? history, if indeed they are. so the question is not so much about rewriting as about the amounts of history. that is not and how strangely enough, what is not presented is always what
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could lead us to question fact that the british empire was bad. so whenever there is something in history that could lead to a nuanced approach to the imperial past of britain , this seems to past of britain, this seems to disappear . past of britain, this seems to disappear. so i'm not british. i the immense privilege of being able gush at things that happen to be . i think that the bbc has to be. i think that the bbc has done an amazing job putting british culture to the forefront on the international. now the trouble is that if the only thing that we hear about britain is that well , it used to be an is that well, it used to be an empire, it was very, very bad. people who are not experts in history or who do not have the time to dive deeper into the matter, will only a11 sided approach to britain's past. but that's the thing and i'm very concerned about this, if bbc is a representative nation of britain on the world stage , it britain on the world stage, it is then clearly most people in britain would not want that representation to be one of our horrific past. and some of the
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programme's highlights in apparently in this report are , apparently in this report are, the misadventures of rubbish ranganathan, in which the comedian question is why is there anywhere in the comedian visits freetown , sierra leone visits freetown, sierra leone and discusses britain's in the slave trade without mentioning , slave trade without mentioning, the city is called freetown because it was the destination of freed and was set up by the british. and is it just wilful ignorance here to do britain deal ? well ignorance here to do britain deal? well i'm ignorance here to do britain deal ? well i'm not ignorance here to do britain deal? well i'm not in ignorance here to do britain deal ? well i'm not in these deal? well i'm not in these people's minds can't say whether it's a wilful ignorance or not. what i can see is that it is not visible on the programme. so there there were amazing things going on between. well during . going on between. well during. the the early 18, the early 19th century in sierra leone and. the way that in the british fleet has done so much, for instance, to . free about 150,000 slaves to. free about 150,000 slaves from the trade that was going on around africa would have been a
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very interesting point to make at that. on that topic now that something also seems to always disappear from the history of africa when it's through these channels it is that africans were also involved in slave trade . it was something that it trade. it was something that it was commonly done not just in africa, but also in asia . many africa, but also in asia. many different civilisations . and we different civilisations. and we never get that part of the story which ends up giving the idea that africa was sort of blank people. the people with noble savages who didn't any better at it quite over the fact that there were powerful empires trading , slaves and gold, and trading, slaves and gold, and there were making good money, trading with white people who were sailing towards jamaica or towards america . so it's just towards america. so it's just about having a broader understanding of these matters and their setting. why certainly at that of history found it like
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at that of history found it like a good way to make money whether they would they were white or black. yeah and with that comes a very one sided interpreter of history and i am seeing something happening now , something happening now, especially on the bbc, which is in relation to historic figures like winston churchill and. churchill well, lord , he's the churchill well, lord, he's the author and broadcaster, actually went as as to accuse the bbc of pursuing a fatwa against winston churchill. i'm not sure i would quite that far myself, although i appreciate the point that he's making . but i appreciate the point that he's making. but why i appreciate the point that he's making . but why is it do think making. but why is it do think that there seems to be almost a fashionable approach now to our all costs highlighting negatives as opposed to actually highlighting the positives almost like it's too introspective introspective . but introspective introspective. but i we approach these things
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though we could then everything that went wrong onto one specific person. so it's very easy to scapegoat churchill and making him responsible for everything that went wrong, even the climate or the fact that japan made some of the trade, the rice trade, impossible around when he was in charge and he becomes responsible of these things. well, it's quite obvious an individual not the only responsible for things like that, because there was a whole government around him. there were people who were trying their best with knowledge of the situation to alleviate what was going wrong in india and indeed did. if we look into the documents britain did a lot to make it less than it would have beenif make it less than it would have been if was just left to the dire circumstances of the climate and, the warfare going around because of second world war. so making churchill a responsible is very easy. he happens to be a dead white and
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nowadays it's as though everything that went wrong in history is the fault of dead white men. and we forget about all the other people who were involved history and who happened not to be white, not to be men and it ends up being just more of the same while it pretends to . quirky paradox , pretends to. quirky paradox, ethical, colonialist, etc. it still happens to be the history of dead meant that, but instead of dead meant that, but instead of saying that they're good, we say they're all bad . now what is say they're all bad. now what is neededis say they're all bad. now what is needed is a more nuanced .just needed is a more nuanced. just quickly on that point. now there is the issue of historical accuracy, journalistic accuracy, etc. i get that. i think there is also the issue of certainly indoctrination and the impact that that might have on one society. if people are seeing presented as absolute fact and maybe they don't know everything about topic and they are just saying that winston churchill is a war criminal, starved a lot of indian people to death or that the english decided they wanted to essentially starve all the
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irish and exterminate them rats in the you see the way all built on a slave trading and that it was only doing the slave trade for example and we seeing all of this stuff cannot have an impact on wider society see well it does have a huge impact which is a massive amounts of self—hatred . so when we only on the bad parts of the past we lose everything that could make just look at the past together a penod look at the past together a period where were making good decisions and bad decisions and just trying best but we just lose ourselves though we knew best with the sort of present shell ism as though what we knew now was already available and people then were able to deal with the situation. with the hindsight that we have now, it's extremely arrogant a way to say
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that we are capable of doing these and therefore so should they. they should have better. we can and we ought to learn from the past. but nowadays what we see is that the costs of britain is just a reason to hate britain is just a reason to hate britain and how that feel for someone who not happen to be well , say someone who not happen to be well, say your someone who not happen to be well , say your average white well, say your average white british. am as a foreigner supposed to think that everyone around me who happens to be white, british is deeply evil and biased me and just plotting to murder me. you'll be the salvation. yeah. well, complicated than that. but britain is much more diverse than the socio lived in and giving us a broader , in a way. giving us a broader, in a way. well, not neutral because i'm not sure who the neutrality could exist in that matter . at could exist in that matter. at least a balanced view of history could help people at least understand that yes, things were
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complicated. i hope to one day be as eloquent as you are. thank you very much . picking your way you very much. picking your way through this particular minefield. i really appreciate . minefield. i really appreciate. it's dr. marie calthorpe daouda that who is of oxford university and reacting reports today anyway the bbc supposedly going for woke in rewriting british history . you are with me patrick history. you are with me patrick christys on gb news. coming up, we'll have more on that shocking that the taxpayer has been funding extremism, but before that it funding extremism, but before thatitis funding extremism, but before that it is your weather. hello that it is your weather. hello that i'm glad to say with your weather update. a rain warning has been issued for northern ireland scotland overnight . ireland and scotland overnight. a focussed warning . so a focussed amber warning. so a higher risk of some high rainfall totals across southern scotland snow and ice warning also for central northern areas of scotland. now pressure clears to the north of the uk whilst another one moves in from the atlantic , allowing wet atlantic, allowing for some wet weather overnight . the reason atlantic, allowing for some wet weatthere/ernight . the reason atlantic, allowing for some wet weatthere haveiht . the reason atlantic, allowing for some wet weatthere have been he reason atlantic, allowing for some wet weatthere have been warnings so why there have been warnings so through the evening and cold across central northern areas of
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scotland. watch out the ice and chilly across eastern chilly night across eastern counties as more arrives counties as more cloud arrives from the west . but look this from the west. but look at this rain. it be heavy and it's rain. it will be heavy and it's trucking in quickly across northern ireland, scotland, keeping england as keeping the far north england as well isle of man, winston well as the isle of man, winston pick severe gale force pick up to severe gale force across north channel, the across the north channel, the far coast far north of irish sea coast gales elsewhere a sausage with this rain across england and wales again track swiftly wales again will track swiftly eastwards. wet and windy eastwards. so a wet and windy start the day. out for start the day. watch out for surface issues. obviously surface water issues. obviously some bursts likely it will some heavy bursts likely it will clear towards the east and its wake. a few showers across . wake. a few showers across. scotland certainly for northern as well. still snow above 200 metres and we'll see a few running in across and wales. but here's some drier to end the day and the blustery rather than those gales temperatures then on the mild side in south it's still cold in the north six or seven degrees celsius now through friday evening a. legacy of showers continues across northern england. southern scotland as well as northern ireland. that rain continues also across far north of also across the far north of scotland for shetland and orkney, but it will and
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orkney, but it will clear and then more persistent bursts of arrive from the southwest into the hours of new year's . the early hours of new year's. so bursts of rain so some sporadic bursts of rain arriving and pushing north eastwards as we head through the on saturday this . rain again on saturday this. rain again could be heavy in places again. the winds will pick up gales along the coast, but could see some showers just across northern ireland and western scotland. no, no, no an unsettled end to 2023. more rain tuesday across both southern and eastern areas, drier on monday. welcome back. has just gone at 4 pm. you'll be made patrick p.m. you'll be made patrick christys on gb news. i'll bring you more on that story that i went up so massive on yesterday. taxpayers are funding people who support the taliban banned islamist and radical hate islamist groups and radical hate preachers. version of preachers. a leaked version of the reveals the
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the prevent report reveals the labour want to let labour party they want to let victims crime decide the perpetrator's punishment . they perpetrator's punishment. they say that now the policy of , law say that now the policy of, law and is not really true the and order is not really true the woke as we've just been woke bbc as we've just been hearing, is rewriting history . hearing, is rewriting history. one commentator has even accused him fatwah on him of plotting fatwah on winston . just the bbc winston churchill. just the bbc hate britain . patients are hate britain. patients are waiting 15. i was in a&e . it's waiting 15. i was in a&e. it's a good job. we're paying those diversity managers five times more than we're paying a nurse, isn't it? get your views coming in thick and fast, as indeed loads you have. i promise you loads of you have. i promise you i the time today to i will make the time today to get as many of those i possibly could. should we paying to could. should we stop paying to terrorist sympathisers do terrorist sympathisers and do you law and you trust labour on law and order? love this in order? also want to love this in africa is the bbc two woke gb news gbnews.uk but now is latest headunes. news gbnews.uk but now is latest headlines . good afternoon . 4:02. headlines. good afternoon. 4:02. i'm sanchez in the gb newsroom. defence secretary ben wallace says the uk is response to china opening up travel abroad is
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under review. his come after a government spokes said there were no plans to introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals . china. beijing arrivals. china. beijing announced it would reopen borders next week and the country's ongoing covid surge has sparked concern . the us has has sparked concern. the us has become the latest to impose mandatory testing , while ben mandatory testing, while ben wallace says he expects to get some clarification soon. what i think the government has said not going to keep that under review and review whether different countries , covid different countries, covid outbreaks, etc. should should obviously face different . i obviously face different. i think as we as we speak that is being reviewed and i'll expect to see some clarification, i think by the as part of probably today or tomorrow . while the today or tomorrow. while the defence secretary also insisted uk borders are safe , the uk borders are safe, the military steps in to cover for striking border force officials . unions claim the country's borders are less secure as more than a thousand immigration
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officers out in a dispute over pay - officers out in a dispute over pay . a senior source has told gb pay. a senior source has told gb news that passport control are running very smoothly at all six airports . a third man has been airports. a third man has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher in. the non—league footballer was stabbed to death on boxing day in the crane nightclub, which now being shut down. west midlands police have said a 22 year old man has been detained in london. four others have been arrested . suspicion of have been arrested. suspicion of assisting an offender offender. police say a third arrest has been made . connection with the been made. connection with the fatal shooting elle edwards killed outside a on christmas eve and merseyside police says a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder. a man and woman who were previously arrested are still being questioned . by belarus has
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questioned. by belarus has called for ukraine to investigate after one of its air defence missiles was fired over its territory . belarus's defence its territory. belarus's defence says it's brought down a ukrainian missile, summoning ukraine's ambassador to investigate prevent it from happening again . it comes on the happening again. it comes on the day of one of the largest russian strikes since the start of the war. ukraine says it shot down four of the 69 russian missiles five fired in the country which has reportedly left 90% of the western city of lviv without power . vladimir lviv without power. vladimir putin could be unseated by his own generals if ukraine continue use to make gains in its counter . that's according to former head of the british army . head of the british army. speaking to gb news general, lord richard dannatt said strategic losses are rapidly falling . falling morale could falling. falling morale could see the russian leaders in forced removal . but lord dannatt forced removal. but lord dannatt insists his vital the uk us other allies continue to supply
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ukraine with western weapons. it's important that the european countries do well as you're looking a bit wobbly. importantly, european countries stay behind . really important stay behind. really important that sam stays behind that uncle sam stays behind ukraine. absolutely ukraine. that's absolutely critical. the sophisticated weaponry that's going in is the game changer. the weaponry that's going in is the game changer . the vatican says game changer. the vatican says former pope benedict is in a serious but stable condition after . concerns were raised over after. concerns were raised over his health. in a statement, it said the 95 year old is lucid and has rested well overnight. yesterday, pope francis called for prayers for his predecessor, warning. he was very sick. the former head of the catholic became the first pope to stand down in 600 years. in 2013 . now, down in 600 years. in 2013. now, at least 19 people have been killed and up 30 are still missing. following a huge fire at a hotel in cambodia. that's according police and local media. the blaze started at around midnight on wednesday at
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the grand diamond city casino on the grand diamond city casino on the border with thailand. police say around 400 people were in the building when it fire. authorities are still to determine the cause of the blaze blaze , the deadly storm that's blaze, the deadly storm that's been sweeping across north america , killing at least 69 america, killing at least 69 people is now bringing wet, windy weather to the uk. the met office says the knock on effect america's bomb cyclone will see of unsettled weather over the next 7 to 10 days. forecast others have issued an amber weather alert for heavy rain tomorrow for parts of scotland warning of flooding and travel disruption . this is gb news. disruption. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as happens. now back to patrick . happens. now back to patrick. welcome everybody. now, as we've
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been discussing, a review into the government's prevent programme found taxpayers money has handed to groups promoting islamist extremism. the review , islamist extremism. the review, led by william shawcross, found that individuals have allegedly supported the taliban , defended supported the taliban, defended militant islamist groups banned in the uk and hate preachers are those who receive taxpayers money apparently as well. some of them decided that we should have muslim people in our army who refuse to follow anyway. it's giving us doors . oh, and it's giving us doors. oh, and this is the former national counter—terror tourism co—ordinator, nick aldworth. nick, thank you very very much. the public have a right to know exactly where this money was sent to. how much money was sent and why on earth it sent. that i completely agree. i mean public taxpayers have a right . know how taxpayers have a right. know how all of their money is spent on. whatever the matter that the government is using it for. i think it's worth mentioning that you know, this is a review was commissioned by the government itself and so i would hate for
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anybody to think that there's not transparency around this prevent from the day that it was incepted has had number of reputational challenges around it . but i reputational challenges around it. but i would reputational challenges around it . but i would say that on the it. but i would say that on the greater balance , it is an greater balance, it is an incredibly good programme and is a vital part . our overall a vital part. our overall counterterrorist strategy. just quickly moment concern and what you've just said that is that only reason we know any of this is because been leaks the government allegedly trying to cover this up because are quote terrified , looking like they're terrified, looking like they're picking on muslims and. the report itself apparently has been deliberately skewed to . been deliberately skewed to. focus more on far right terrorism , islamist extremism, terrorism, islamist extremism, despite fact, they've been 35 times more people killed , a times more people killed, a result of islamist extremism in the uk since 2003 than from far right. so i think so. i think in fairness , you know, i haven't fairness, you know, i haven't seen the report so don't know
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whether it's skewed or not. but i think what you've just alluded to is these suggestion inside the leaked report that the prevent programme has skewed more towards the right wing than the has been skewed the report has been skewed towards the right now, towards the right wing. now, i can't , so i can't can't, so i can't authoritatively comment on that. but what we do know is that the number of referrals from the extreme wing into the red programme has parity with those from islamist extremist concerns . now you're absolutely right . . now you're absolutely right. by . now you're absolutely right. by a country , the islamist by a country, the islamist threat is the greatest terrorist that this country faces. that's an advocated or articulated rather several times by the head of. and i and the head of counterterrorism policing. so nobody's hiding away from that fact. and i'm not here to defend the government or speak on their behalf, in fairness, behalf, but in fairness, you know, they wanted hide a know, if they wanted hide a report been plenty of other opportunities in recent to release it at a time when it
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would probably get lost in the flurry of a get . i get that flurry of a get. i get that there's a lot to unpack here. one of the reasons why supposedly they want to redact the names of some of these groups who have allegedly done like and i'm quoting here now, actively supported the taliban, urge muslim of the armed forces to refuse orders has been very favourable hateful rhetoric from radical islamist preachers is because they wouldn't want to offend those groups or face potential legal action . i know potential legal action. i know very prominent cases where we didn't want to offend certain groups of muslims. i the grooming gang scandals that were taking right across this country . why are we so afraid of offending them. so we should be exercising policing. and that's what i speak on without fear or , favour and. i'm confident that that happens i think individuals sometimes feel self—conscious about approaching or being in
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the middle of issues that are clearly , you know, have the clearly, you know, have the potential to be inflammatory or create tensions and was listening to your previous interview and those are very much the same sort subjects that people still get a bit nervous but as i what have to focus on patrick is the systems and make sure that the systems are fair and exercise without fear individuals will always make mistakes but the system needs to be prescribed and structured so that it focuses on what it's meant to do, which is to prevent from becoming radicalised to becoming terrorists, whatever that ideology is. absolutely. and appreciate you coming on and given very, very strong words on of this. and my concern , apart of this. and my concern, apart from all of it really is be fab. one of my concerns would be whether or not this money has been deliberately sent to groups that promote things radical islam. that is a question raised by an individual apparently very
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close to the author of this report . do you close to the author of this report. do you think there is any chance that people who are working in the district of funds to the prevent scheme will have deliberately given to money knowing that will, for example, support the taliban ? so would support the taliban? so would hope not. but of course , you hope not. but of course, you know, government allegiances change quite often and you know , barely more than a couple of years ago, most western governments withdrew from afghanistan in the belief that the taliban had many their ways and were going to become a legitimate government. so i think some of this needs to be looked at in the context of when this is supposed to have happened also reflect on happened, but also reflect on the fact that unfortunately, some times to resolve you have to engage a dialogue. and of course, that's what we with the irish republican army and successfully brought to a greater extent peace in northern ireland . but again i hypothesise
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ireland. but again i hypothesise and rightly speculating on why money might have been given to people or indeed for that matter, if has been, as i say , matter, if has been, as i say, not seen the reports. i look forward to seeing it. we've been waiting for it for a long and i think that would be the one criticism i would have of government matter , that government on this matter, that this really important this is a really important review around a really important subject . we need to get of any subject. we need to get of any errors in the program and get it working properly and so that everybody has confidence in can i just pick your brains as your capacity is the former national counter—terrorism coordinator massive massive job bureau chopping . were there ever chopping. were there ever discussions about the fact that it might be easier sweep some elements of radical islamism in the uk under ? the run of fear of the uk under? the run of fear of stoking racial tensions? was that ever discussed ? never that ever discussed? never neven that ever discussed? never never. in policing . and i can't never. in policing. and i can't speak for any other body or agency, i find it extremely when you look at how some of the
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terrorist investigations were managed. certainly over my time , 2017, 2018, you know, we were great swathes of people to get to the bottom of individuals who had committed offences or were planning committing offences and indeed all of those matters were then looked at the independent review for terrorism in my day stated a lot more as is now. lord anderson and actions were found to be legitimate my view of terrorism policing is that thatis of terrorism policing is that that is definitely executed without fear or favour . good without fear or favour. good self look thank you very much. real pleasure to have you on the show and we had a wonderful christmas with you and your counter—terrorism coordinator , counter—terrorism coordinator, nick, that. just reacting , nick, over that. just reacting, this news, shocking news . it is. this news, shocking news. it is. and we do all await this report. we bated breath and i will be picking word by word, which picking over word by word, which to indicate anyway that millions of pounds in taxpayers money from the prevent scheme was actually sent to groups who supported the taliban , promoted supported the taliban, promoted radical islamist extremist in
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the uk, and even wanted members of our armed forces to refuse orders. how on earth was that allowed to happen if indeed it did happen? although it seems pretty, pretty costly in any way that it did? we'll have to wait and see. but yes, mean, the and see. but yes, i mean, the big for me there is the big one for me there is the massive question that's coming out in this report now, which is whether or prevent knowingly whether or not prevent knowingly did if they did do did that. and if they did do that, why you are with me patrick christys on news patrick christys on gb news coming labour it coming up. as labour says it would victims of would allow victims of anti—social choose anti—social behaviour to choose how punished . is how offenders are punished. is it justice or actually is it good justice or actually is it good justice or actually is it a pointless . oh, no, no. it just a pointless. oh, no, no. itake it just a pointless. oh, no, no. i take on not one, but left wingers. oh great. former labour adviser writer scarlett. but maguire and former editor of labour pizza was does we do offer a little bit of balance here on tv news? i'll be back after the .
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break welcome, everybody. and lots of you've been getting in touch with your thoughts on those reports. the anti—radicalisation reports. the anti —radicalisation your reports. the anti—radicalisation your ended up going your money ended up going to people people. so people who radicalise people. so they earlene has been on. they began earlene has been on. oh, no, here we go. i've upset eileen. come on, eileen. i'll usually like you, patrick, but you're stirring up trouble where there may be no substance. i know many lovely muslims who might be insulted by the things you're eileen, you're talking about. eileen, i'm to come back. that. i'm happy to come back. that. don't yes. one of my don't worry. yes. one of my major concerns actually, is that by publishing everything, by not publishing everything, that in this report that clearly is in this report to prevent scheme that actually it might drag in nice, well—meaning of the muslim community, of which there are millions in the united kingdom and help to tarnish them with the same brush as people who are promoters of radical extreme ism. i think the details need to be out there because if it looks like a cover up, eileen, which
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to be honest with you at the moment, is starting to have the whiff and i think will whiff of and i think that will do good. my other do harm than good. my other eileen with this idea of and eileen is with this idea of and i'm now from a source i'm quoting now from a source very close to the author of this report. we all know what that really means, don't this really means, don't we? this is the officials are terrified the home officials are terrified of are picking of looking like they are picking on muslims now. i feel like we might have been here before or a little bit with some issues. for example, gang example, the grooming gang issues, i do think that it issues, etc. i do think that it needs be raised. the far needs to be raised. the far right is on the rise absolutely, unequivocally. but many people could be forgiven arlene. i think for thinking of it the pressing certainly when pressing matter certainly when it to active loss of life it comes to active loss of life and active violence terror attacks well on a larger attacks could well on a larger scale is maybe down the islamist route that's just based off route and that's just based off the . and i route and that's just based off the .and i am route and that's just based off the . and i am concerned the numbers. and i am concerned that maybe are too afraid that maybe people are too afraid raising the issue too . well raising the issue too. well actually raise the issue and that's one of my issues with it. so arlene, i hope you don't think i'm doing anything to up. i am just deeply sceptical that the truth will ever out and i don't want truth to out so there
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you i hope that answered you go. i hope that answered your anyway. your questions on it anyway. right. moving on. shadow right. we're moving on. shadow justice secretary has justice secretary steve read has said labour government justice secretary steve read has said allow abour government justice secretary steve read has said allow abyanti—sociallent would allow of anti—social behaviour choose behaviour to choose how offenders this offenders are punished. this will an on tony will be an update on tony blair's tough on crime, tough on the crime slogan and the causes of crime slogan and put at the heart of put prevention at the heart of that approach. am joined now by two labour stalwarts former adviser and writer scarlet mcguire and former editor of labour list is peter bosley, a massively outnumbered hand . this massively outnumbered hand. this is a stitch up of epic proportions . peter, i'll start proportions. peter, i'll start with you . what do you make of with you. what do you make of this? do you think this is good justice the idea that the labour party now might let me decide exactly how the chap who graffitied my car is what kind of manual labour he's been made to do. well yeah i think it's about giving a voice in the justice system and apart from conviction rates, especially sexual offences. the idea that with fewer police numbers , with fewer police numbers, victims don't get hurt and their crimes don't get the attention and scrutiny they deserve . is and scrutiny they deserve. is one of the worries about ten
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years of austerity. so trying to put the heart put victims at the heart community led punishments is entirely sensible. of course, there'll be one or two practical limitations on it, but it shows labouris limitations on it, but it shows labour is kind of once again responding to public on responding to public opinion on this kind of core issue. scarlett i think was just yesterday actually the labour party accused the tories of going after gimmicky politics. is just a gimmick. going after gimmicky politics. is just a gimmick . i going after gimmicky politics. is just a gimmick. i don't think there's anything about this. i think anti—social behaviour is one of the most prevalent crimes there is that there are 2 million instances of anti—social behaviour that are not even followed up. that is what most people have seen most of the time. i mean, you there are very few burglaries , there aren't few burglaries, there aren't even that many muggings. few burglaries, there aren't even that many muggings . even even that many muggings. even though we hear a lot about it very, very few. murders. but actually anti—social behaviour is everywhere. and what we've got to do is we've got to stop it. and what they, what they're
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doing is, it's, it's a very tony blair approach and they're saying we're going to be tough on it. we're going to we're going to do about it. but actually we want to do , we actually what we want to do, we want to stop it and we want to stop the people who are doing it. they come the community. it. and they come the community. so let's let the community say the community. i've so i will come back to you, peter. i'll throw it your way now, labour obviously wants to be branded now as the party that's going in strong and order with strong on law and order with absolute as annoying as neighbour who plays really loud music through my window might be, would care more be, i probably would care more about unrelenting stabbings about the unrelenting stabbings on streets of london or on on the streets of london or the west manchester or the west midlands, manchester or liverpool, on that it liverpool, and on that when it comes to some labour policy views things stop views on things like stop search, don't see how you search, i don't see how you could be brexit is the policy is tough on law and order. well i think he's a lot well i wouldn't say it is an unrelenting stop on in london. i wouldn't use words at all. but clearly there's a concern. violent crime in london. doubt that london. i wouldn't doubt that for we are
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for a moment where. we are anti—social behaviour. i think it's a more than loud music, you know, be the single know, it might be the single parent terrified by a gang parent who's terrified by a gang of yobs. it might be the shop keeper having racist abuse or keeper is having racist abuse or worse hurled at him in the street. and so on. and so on. so know. so i think we've got to be clear about antisocial behaviour. one off or behaviour. it's not a one off or something it's annoying, something and it's annoying, it can misery and. can make lives, misery and. while think this is a sense while i think this is in a sense admirably devoid of party, it's clear anti social behaviour clear that anti social behaviour what used to be perhaps wrongly low level crime is at the core of the concerns of non—aligned voters . just like welfare and voters. just like welfare and immigration because it's, it's absolute antithesis of the westminster bubble, it's being wrecked by bad behaviour . yeah. wrecked by bad behaviour. yeah. look and the grassroots i think is important if people like that has been lost and everything else is maybe a bit lost as well. scala i'll just kind of ask a similar question to you, which is this broader picture about labour being tough on law order. can't but feel as order. i can't help but feel as though the leader of the though you see the leader of the labour things like labour party doing things like taking the knee. it's a great
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look. i find two things look. i find these two things quite mario well, i think quite out of mario well, i think being racism is not being against racism is not being against racism is not being against racism is not being against law and order and that's from the police making patrick he was making a stand saying absolutely whether labour party stands or racism. right but but but i do think mean law and order is incredibly important and it always has been to the labour party. i'm you know, it was tony blair who refashioned the thing, you know, tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime and actually that's been the mantra of the labour party for nearly 30 years now. it is really but we have we have move on. we have to understand what's on. and i'd actually , as i keep saying, for actually, as i keep saying, for most people what is called anti social behaviour or low level crime is what absolutely dogs their lives. it isn't terribly tragic, but you know happens a lot at knifing right it is
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behaviour i'm the people's lives are made an misery through it okay peter various different labour areas. suppose you could say manchester under burn and we've got wales etc. crime has not been handled exceptionally well. there isn't evidence to suggest that labour would actually do a betterjob of actually do a better job of handung actually do a better job of handling crime in this well. think surely money is at the of this. it's very difficult to compare different parts of the uk because everybody in different ways . you know london different ways. you know london be a classic example labour markets it's a run and funded with different types of police forces . i think it's really forces. i think it's really comfortable and of course things like poverty play a part as well. very briefly, you know what are the driving factors of high crime and low conviction rates. is austerity but it's also closing police stations . it also closing police stations. it delays in the criminal system and occasionally the misallocation of police resources. and these are ultimately personal decisions. your family some would say as well. to be fair , i think
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well. to be fair, i think fatherless homes have a to do with it. i must say. i really do, actually, when it comes to things at school, i'll give the i'll give the final word over to you on this . this is hold on. you on this. this is hold on. there are no statistics saying that children from fatherless are more likely to be criminals 7 are more likely to be criminals ? i mean, let's not start saying that single mothers can't bring up children . well well, that's a up children. well well, that's a massive what i've said there are stats jobs have them in front of me right now. but i've reported on it before and i will happily get them and produce them a little later on actually because there stars when it to the there are stars when it to the problems society problems there just the society problems. be like i'm not problems. it can be like i'm not i'm absolutely not going to go with mothers bless they do with the mothers bless they do a tremendous job under incredibly circumstances. final words on this is maybe of this call it which is maybe of agreement here. actually, i think look the figures think you look at the figures about antisocial behaviour, 2 million cases not getting million or so cases not getting up you can just up burglary. i mean you can just willy these you willy nilly these days you conviction challenges to conviction rate so challenges to about 5.4% it does look as though the tories have left a massive open for the labour party to walk straight and say
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well, things are going to get better under . absolutely. and better under. absolutely. and what need we do need more police our streets. i'm i mean peter's right. i mean does come down to are you serious about sorting out crime and if you are, you have to put some money into it. both of you. thank you much. i really enjoyed that. you go. fantastic and i was i was going to say i'm a rose between two thirds. i'm over thorn between big red roses on thank you very much. both of your former labour adviser writes in scarlet mcguire, former editor of labour left peter edwards as well. good chat, though. good chat, people right now as you have been getting in touch with your thoughts this very issue, thoughts on this very issue, actually angela says, oh gosh, here we go. angela's on. i wouldn't trust that peter out before you before he has this. i wouldn't to clean wouldn't trust labour to clean my run the my toilet. never mind. run the country the conservatives country with the conservatives not behind . look, be not far behind. look, to be honest angela , i get honest with you, angela, i get what mean. don't me what you mean. don't get me wrong. but when it comes, i says
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i'm coming round to the idea that. when you look at the crime rates the minute have the rates at the minute have the tories done of tories done a good job of bringing crime? they've absolutely police absolutely castrate our police force to numbers. force when it comes to numbers. you they're now trying you know, they're now trying to recruit same recruit basically the same amount they amount of people that they actually a load of actually have closed a load of police . so there's police stations. so there's nowhere to put the new recruits, even get them crime rates even if do get them crime rates are absolutely spiralling. i mean, conservatives mean, to be fair, conservatives have done a good job when have not done a good job when comes order. it comes to law and order. it remains seen. of course, if remains be seen. of course, if labour better. labour could do any better. roger says very quick glance. such behaviour plans labour such behaviour plans by labour are attempt are just another cynical attempt to relevant broken britain to be relevant broken britain cannot political cannot be fixed with political gesturing, but society requires root and branch reform is in free fall. we'll eventually break down into anarchy. okay, well, . may be. maybe well, maybe. may be. maybe what's being proposed here is desperately trying to stop us breaking down. it's to keep, breaking down. it's one to keep, rogen breaking down. it's one to keep, roger, we'll wait roger, but we'll have to wait and. do agree. we though and. say, i do agree. we though i we're a position right i think we're a position right now lot of structural is now where a lot of structural is needed. deal patrick needed. deal with me patrick christys on gb news. coming up, who's queues of up who's to blame for queues of up to hours a&e bed blockers flu to 15 hours a&e bed blockers flu or perhaps lockdowns on that
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prevent it happening again. it comes on the day of one of the largest russians since the start of the war. ukraine says it shot down 54 of 69 russian missiles, fired the country, which is reportedly left 90% of the western city of lviv power . western city of lviv power. a third man has been arrested on the suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher. the non—league football who was stabbed to death on boxing day in a birmingham which now faces being down. west midlands says a 22 year old man has been detained in london. four others have been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. say a third arrest has been made in connection with the fatal shooting of elle edwards killed outside a pub in on christmas eve. merseyside police says a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of conspire a c to murder another man . a woman are still being
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responded by blaming combination of bad blockers covid and flu and several nhs trusts have declared critical incidents which means they are struggling to provide safe care. to break all of this down now for us is gp same day doctor dr. lawrence. girl it's started . thank you girl it's started. thank you very, very much. so 15 hours in a&e is absolute monstrosity. why this really happening . well, this really happening. well, i think to some extent what the nhs has said is. think to some extent what the nhs has said is . i mean, we've nhs has said is. i mean, we've been overwhelmed. i've been working ten days in a row non—stop dealing with coughs, colds , flu, chickenpox , colds, flu, chickenpox, sinusitis. it's been the worst winter that i can remember. i remember saying last two winters. i wasn't seeing of this because we were in lockdown. and it's you know, we have this immunity deficit built up. i know it sounds controversial, but there's no doubt it's true.
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we were we were all lockdown for two winters. we are getting two or three times more of these infections . almost everyone you infections. almost everyone you meet everyone you talk to has some sort of respiratory infection. so to me, that's the number one cause of all this. add to that, we always a winter crisis anyway because . the nhs crisis anyway because. the nhs works at 99% capacity, says no spare capacity in the winter . spare capacity in the winter. thirdly, we do a breakdown in social care. so that bed blocking means you can't discharge patients from hospital. so i think all those excuses actually are perfectly valid . and when i look at social valid. and when i look at social media today, i see the system even. media today, i see the system even . everyone now admits the even. everyone now admits the system is broken it's not breaking down. it has. this is it. this is the point that we said. what happened? the system totally broken down. you get an ambulance waiting 12 hours in a&e. it's and it saddens me to
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say this. it doesn't please me at all, even though i'm not in the nhs anymore. it saddens me. enormous because i believe in the principles the nhs. yeah, but do we have to wake up now and realise that significant , and realise that significant, serious root and branch reform is needed? i may be slow to what was once a sacred cow that has turned into a fatted calf. yes, we, patrick, without a doubt. but i don't believe there is a politician is capable of getting this through . the public will this through. the public will not allow that what needs to be done through. what is it just specific? what is it that needs to be got through ? we need to to be got through? we need to have an insurance based system like they have in australia and most of europe where people who can afford it insured through their work. you have exemptions for certain people, a limited exemptions may be for the under sixes. the other rather than the broader exemption we have in the uk for prescription limit exemptions. help with from
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charities for people who really can't afford it but basically a fee based system where you have to pay as . you do in ireland you to pay as. you do in ireland you have to pay . see a gp and you have to pay. see a gp and you have to pay. see a gp and you have to pay go to an emergency because . the demand has spun out because. the demand has spun out of control . you were talking of control. you were talking earlier about the breakdown of the nuclear family. this is issue. breakdown of society . so issue. breakdown of society. so people can't get advice from you know helpful grandmothers who know helpful grandmothers who know that not every feverish child needs to go to hospital. so all of these things have come to a perfect storm and caused this complete breakdown , the this complete breakdown, the system. but the big argument against it. the thing that would make it so unpalatable to a lot of people and the reason why i suspect don't have the bottle to say this is because as long as people be able to point people would be able to point out most out the poorest or most impoverished or the most vulnerable and say vulnerable in society and say that thing you have that the thing that you have just here make just proposed here would make them less well off in terms of health care. they get worse. health care then it wouldn't be done. so would those people in
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society have health care as a result of what you've suggested ? my i've got two answers to you, patrick. firstly that has always been the argument . it but always been the argument. it but right now those , people, those right now those, people, those same people are not getting any health care anyway . so the health care anyway. so the argument breaks because the most depnved argument breaks because the most deprived people in society cannot access healthcare . and so cannot access healthcare. and so whether they're worse off under a fee based system doesn't matter because they're not worse . they're as bad as they are now. the second point is i engagei now. the second point is i engage i believe it's up to the medical to take control of this. iengage medical to take control of this. i engage with a lot of doctors and social media who always criticise me for a fee based system . and, you know , they all system. and, you know, they all think it's very unfair and yet gb news put out a tweet a few hours ago that a lot of doctors are immigrating to australia and one of your colleagues quite rightly points hang on. the same people that won't accept a fee based system here are emigrating to an insurance fee based system in australia so they don't have a moral objection to it at all.
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they don't want to see the uk adopt that system a system that would work. it would raise for the nhs, it would decrease demand to a level that everyone could get the access, including the poorest in society because . the poorest in society because. we could help them get the access. you know, and if this isn't done soon, we're going to have winter after winter. this is going to go on for a long time. yeah, absolutely. dr. lawrence got say i thank you very, very much . same day doctor very, very much. same day doctor just filling you in on exactly. we are seeing things like 15 our ways now people are able to ways and now people are able to get an ambulance and crucially, what to be done it. what to be done about it. however impossible will be however impossible it will be for politician he saying for a politician he is saying that thinks need an that he thinks we need an insurance system . and he insurance based system. and he makes the point and i suspect depressingly we in the situation right now which is if your quality of health care is already so appallingly bad , do already so appallingly bad, do you mind changing the system if it means that some people who are at the end of, let's say, the economics or the societal
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spectrum whatsoever just continue to get poor health care. it's already bad, isn't out of that. that's a very controversial view . what do you controversial view. what do you make of it? vaiews@gbnews.uk okay. but that, actually, okay. but on that, actually, loads you have been getting loads of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts on nhs who is to blame for nhs times. who is to blame for 15 this is tony 15 keys? tony this is tony who's a radiographer. actually he says, it's partly says, in my opinion it's partly down most people, not knowing down to most people, not knowing who consult. is a pharmacist who to consult. is a pharmacist a gp fully? any services? the difficulty accessing gp service is creating a dependency on hospital a&e services and in many cases the a&e doctor is doing the job of, many cases the a&e doctor is doing the job of , referring to doing the job of, referring to a specialist which a gp do. yes. i mean , obviously, i defer to your mean, obviously, i defer to your knowledge. i mean, are paid to work in the nhs and it's fantastic inside and it's something i think that we've always suspected happening. isn't there also as ? well, isn't there also as? well, people probably presenting themselves a&e when they just don't really to. stop don't really to. full stop i can't help but wonder if that is an issue . but again, that's a an issue. but again, that's a tncky an issue. but again, that's a tricky one, isn't it? because you don't to deter people from
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go. yes get off going go. yes get them off going without they do need without actually they do need go. effect go. that's the knock on effect isn't it. go. that's the knock on effect isntit.thank go. that's the knock on effect isn't it. thank you very much. loads and getting touch loads you and getting in touch not just on that but on the main issue of the day as well, which issue of the day as well, which is money there's is that taxpayers money there's probably the probably been going to the prevents scheme, the prevent scheme has been just scheme in itself has been just dishing to people dishing that money out to people who support like, who actually support like, oh, i don't know, taliban and don't know, the taliban and radical etc. radical islamist clerics, etc. so it doesn't appear as though, for want of a better phrase, the taxpayers getting a lot of bang for buck. you're with me. for their buck. you're with me. patrick gb news. patrick christys on. gb news. coming as russia lashes coming up, as russia lashes again with strikes on again with missile strikes on ukraine war and ukraine could the war and removing putin from removing vladimir putin from exclusive insight after this short break.
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ukraine's city since the war began , with at least three began, with at least three people being taken to hospital . people being taken to hospital. that's as it's been revealed that russian leader vladimir putin be unseated by own generals if ukraine continues to make gains in successful, counter offensive . speaking counter offensive. speaking exclusively to gb news, head of the british army general, lord dannatt says strategic and rapidly falling morale could open the real possibility of . open the real possibility of. putin's enforced removal . the putin's enforced removal. the old men in grey suits stuff , old men in grey suits stuff, isn't it? but lord dannatt told our security guard, it's a mile wide . it was vital. the us, the wide. it was vital. the us, the uk and other allies continue to stay the course in supplying ukraine with state of the art western weapons systems .
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for the better of a year. ukraine has under relentless russian from strikes to tank and artillery fire fire as russian forces push to consolidate their gains . but in forces push to consolidate their gains. but in recent forces push to consolidate their gains . but in recent months gains. but in recent months against seemingly insurmountable table odds, the ukrainians have been pushing back a counter offensive , making key gains. offensive, making key gains. chief among them recapturing the strategic , important southern strategic, important southern city of hirshon . could i be the city of hirshon. could i be the former head ? the british army former head? the british army believes if ukraine can keep up, that momentum in the months ahead , then the russian ahead, then the russian president could find it increasingly to cling on to power . i could see a set of
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power. i could see a set of circumstances where the russian military morale would collapse. when you've lost the will to win, when you've decided that your your own head, then you will lose. and of course, if that was to happen, that's a game changer. i think will see a change of regime in the kremlin. i think we would see putin out . i think we would see putin out. there's no the bravery and resolve of the ukrainians , but resolve of the ukrainians, but it's sophisticated. west and suppued it's sophisticated. west and supplied weapons systems that's helped give them the edge in many of their encounters russian forces . lord dannatt says it's forces. lord dannatt says it's absolutely vital that the in particular stands firm in its support ukraine. yes it's important that the european countries . well as you're countries. well as you're looking a bit wobbly. important european countries stay behind but really important that uncle sam behind ukraine. that's absolutely because the sophisticated weaponry that's going in is the game . also key,
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going in is the game. also key, the continuation of the training of ukrainian volunteers , of ukrainian volunteers, particularly by britain poland. some replaces to the front. i'm not sure that depends . yeah. not sure that depends. yeah. pulled as we previously did yet. around 10,000 ukrainian cars are being trained in the uk before returning home to take up the fight in the months ahead. ukraine has to keep up the momentum and continue making gains in its counter offensive . gains in its counter offensive. it's stated aim to push russia out of all ukrainian territory. defence analysts colonel stuart crawford believes recapturing crimea would guarantee the victory. he or she who controls the crimea or holds crimea basically controls the black sea of the entrance to the sea of aslef. if the ukrainians managed to take crimea , that might be
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to take crimea, that might be the point at which they are prepared to negotiate for peace . in recent months , russia has . in recent months, russia has stepped up its strikes on key civilian infrastructure here, heaping even more on ukraine's popular ocean. sadly it is a grim pattern . the more military grim pattern. the more military success enjoys on the battlefield the more its beleaguered towns and cities will. the effects of increased russian bombardment. mark will. the effects of increased russian bombardment . mark white will. the effects of increased russian bombardment. mark white . gb russian bombardment. mark white. gb security at with that fantastic piece you on the latest when it comes to ukraine and to lend his expertise on this topic his defence at the evening standard is robert fox. great stuff robert fantastic to have you in the studio. so do you think that vladimir putin is going to get essentially taken out or , essentially taken out or, removed by his generals ? in the removed by his generals? in the short term , it's very, very
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short term, it's very, very unlikely because he has built his power on protecting his power . layer after layer after power. layer after layer after layer , his old mates from the layer, his old mates from the kgb, the aslef, the fsb, and they're around him. it would really a big effort, and particularly he's been by in hard men like swarovski and to back him. his political body is like lavrov and the defence minister . like lavrov and the defence minister. they don't really count for that much. they don't know what to do for the after putin it's not clear and a junta of generals i don't think would do much better and i think they'd do a lot worse. and i think that's a general feeling. a couple of important questions . i am noticing a big in a lot of whether it's on social media whether in our inbox here or just people i've to generally really even saying we're all right giving a bit of money and weapons to ukraine. when will
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this stop because there's a lot of money and the british taxpayer not really getting a vote on this . yeah this is this vote on this. yeah this is this is this is part of the problem a crisis which is regional war of implications. and when i say global implications where that part of the region we know that our supply chain for food for energy particularly but above all communications these trillions of dollars worth of that go through fibre optic . we that go through fibre optic. we know the russians have been having a good look at it. may been doing a bit of this a bit of that all round the british isles, including ireland. basically the irish navy really alerted us to some the worst surveillance operations by the russians . you know, they may be russians. you know, they may be niggling taking out a bank. you know, you get your banking onune know, you get your banking online saying, oh, we're out of action for 3 hours. that's probably this kind of thing going on. so as long as putin's around and in this cast of mind, he's going to be a darn nuisance. for a long time. and
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that has to be taken. and we got an interest in. we've got to spend money, real defence. the argument is i shouldn't be spending money on food banks or whatever might well whatever. you might as well close the whole of defence close down the whole of defence in the uk, people are concerned there isn't a proper audit of exactly this money's going that we're just splashing the coins. the second part of what i should have you. i'm a bit have been. thank you. i'm a bit long winded about this this seems to be a war or a war of time but i was thinking coming in, knowing going to talk to you about this this the 120 missiles today , the fighting in the today, the fighting in the donbas was particularly around around sotheby's appreciate that that area what's been going on in belarus trying to do joint training saying . we're doing training saying. we're doing nuclear drills . there's a bit of nuclear drills. there's a bit of an air of desperation this. so i would hazard and shoot me anybody if you absolutely know
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they're trying to close this off yeah russia it looks to me is going a great big swipe by the end of march or mid april at most one, two, really putin really has to show progress that he is going to be putin victory by the 24th of february this coming year , the anniversary of coming year, the anniversary of this . so i'm coming year, the anniversary of this. so i'm absolutely coming year, the anniversary of this . so i'm absolutely with this. so i'm absolutely with lord richard dannatt on this. you've got to stick with this at the moment but the odd thing to say if the americans have got to stop being so timid right that drives an old fashioned car you can walk out the dog, drive a manual, not automatic, one foot on the accelerator , foot on the on the accelerator, foot on the brake all the time . oh, we'll brake all the time. oh, we'll give you this. oh we'll give you a bit of patriot . you mustn't a bit of patriot. you mustn't have anything that looks as if it could attach across russian borders . you need weapons of borders. you need weapons of that capability not to do it, but you have to have it of that order in order guarantee some
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sort success to ukraine. they've got to do something above all for ukraine in air force. thank you. sorry piers. we haven't a coughing fever, but they would go outside defence of the evening standard. robert fox writes okay. all going to love for a very short break now. well, hopefully i can clear my throat. we've got loads more coming your way. stay hello. i'm clancy weather . an clancy with your weather. an amber warning for heavy rain been issued southern been issued across southern parts scotland the parts of scotland the broad yellow for rain . yellow warning for rain. northern ireland, and northern ireland, central and southern of scotland. and southern areas of scotland. and a warning for snow and ice across northern. yes, the remains unsettled and cold in places particularly in the north, one area of low pressure clearing towards the far north, another one approaching from the west. and area of heavy west. and this an area of heavy rain which will track across northern ireland clipping, northern england pushing northern england and pushing towards . at same towards scotland. at the same time, will approach as well time, rain will approach as well as the west country as the winds pick up some strength and the winds the winds will be feature of the weather through the first part of gales across, of friday. severe gales across, the channel across
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the north channel gales across irish well as channel irish coasts as well as channel coast wet and windy start coast and a wet and windy start to that amber to the day. so that amber warning reflect the that warning reflect the fact that there's be issues on there's going to be issues on there's going to be issues on the with surface water . the roads with surface water. rainfall totals could actually see some flooding here. so a risk of some really quite torrential rain for a time. but it clears quite quickly by lunchtime. places seeing lunchtime. most places seeing some drier skies away from shetland as well as orkney although a legacy of showers will arrive northern ireland and scotland through the afternoon a blustery here few blustery breeze here a few running in across the southeast of england now overnight some clear skies yet again across more southern areas so icy across the far north of scotland with the risk of snow above around metres and then some around 200 metres and then some sporadic of come in sporadic bursts of rain come in from west across many parts as we head into the early hours of new year's eve. so still unsettled the last day of 2022. rain comes goes through the day on new year's eve. still a keen breeze coming from the southwest, even scotland and northern ireland will remain cold. and through the day, the rain will intensify across more
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areas. a blustery day you are with showers to follow across more western areas. but even a little sunshine to end 2022 for northern ireland. temperatures then will struggle in the north, milder in south. and here's your outlook into beginning of 2023. dry skies monday with even some sunshine sunshine . sunshine sunshine. welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news now. why are taxpayers like you and? i funding people who support the taliban funding islamist groups and radical muslim hate preachers. that is to a leaked version of the prevent report. dr. akiva sam will join me on that shocking next serious question and this really is serious . it's whether or not serious. it's whether or not it's being done deliberately some of these groups wanted muslim members of our armed not to follow orders like my party
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want to let victims of crime the perpetrator's punishment they that now the policy of law and order you can choose what unpaid work the bloke who graffitied your car shop wants to do after new general secretary that say you say warned of coordinated strikes the new year is it wrong for these union barons to be holding the country to ransom? finally, a report said the bbc , finally, a report said the bbc, a.k.a finally, a report said the bbc, aka the british bashing, is, quote, rewriting british history to promote a woke agenda . get to promote a woke agenda. get your views coming in gbp is on gbnews.uk just the bbc ever left. you won't buy it. should we stop paying money to terrorist sympathisers? says gbviews@gb news.uk terrorist sympathisers? says gbviews@gbnews.uk . but before gbviews@gbnews.uk. but before that, he said, i just had asked . pat that, he said, i just had asked. pat this is the latest from . the gb this is the latest from. the gb newsroom, the defence says the uk is responding to china opening up travel is under review . ben wallace his comments
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review. ben wallace his comments follow government saying there were no plans introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals from china. unlike several other countries, including the us italy. beijing has announced to reopen borders next week despite the country's ongoing covid surge. that sparked concern . mr. wallace sparked concern. mr. wallace says he expects to get some clarification soon. what i think the government has said, it's not going to keep that under review and whether different countries, covid outbreaks, etc. should , should obviously face should, should obviously face different restrictions. i think as as we that is being reviewed , i'll expect to see some clarification. i think the department transport probably today or tomorrow , the defence today or tomorrow, the defence secretary also uk borders safe as the military steps to cover for striking border force officials. unions claim the borders are less secure as more than a thousand immigration officers walk in a dispute over pay - officers walk in a dispute over pay . a senior source has told gp
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pay. a senior source has told gp news the passport control operation running very smoothly at all six airports . a third man at all six airports. a third man has been arrested . suspicion of has been arrested. suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher in birmingham. the non—league footballer was stabbed to death on boxing day in the cray nightclub , which now in the cray nightclub, which now faces being shut down. west midlands police have said a 22 year old man has been detained in london. four others have been arrested on of assisting an offender offender . police say offender offender. police say a third arrest has been made in connection with fatal shooting of a 26 year old woman in wirral . elle edwards was killed outside a pub on christmas eve . outside a pub on christmas eve. merseyside police have said a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder. a and a woman who were previously arrested are still being questioned by. belarus has for ukraine to investigate after one of its air defence missiles
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fired over its territory . fired over its territory. belarus's defence says it's down a ukrainian s—300 missile summoning ukraine's ambassador to investigate to prevent it happening again . it comes on the happening again. it comes on the day of one of the largest russian since the start of the war. ukraine says it shot down 54 of the 69 russian missiles fired in the country, which has reportedly left 90% of the western city of lviv without power. vladimir putin could be unseated by his own generals if ukraine continue use to make gains in its counter—offensive . gains in its counter—offensive. that's according to the former head , the british army. speaking head, the british army. speaking to gb news general lord richard dannatt said strategic losses and rapidly falling morale could see the russian leaders in forced removal. but lord dannatt insists it's vital the us and other allies continue to supply ukraine with western weapons. it's important that the european countries do well as you're looking a bit wobbly.
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importantly, european countries stay but really important that uncle sam stays behind ukraine. that's absolutely critical because sophisticated because the sophisticated weaponry that's going in is the game changer changer. the vatican says former pope is in a serious but condition after were raised over his health. in a statement it said the 95 year old is lucid and had rested well. yesterday pope francis called for prayers for his predecessor, warning he was very sick. the former head , the sick. the former head, the catholic church became the first p0pe catholic church became the first pope to stand down in 600 years. in 2013, at least 19 people have been killed and up to 30 are missing. following huge fire at a hotel casino in cambodia. that's according to local media. the blaze around midnight last night at grand diamond city casino on, the border with thailand. say around 400 people were in the building when it caught. authorities are still .
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caught. authorities are still. the deadly storm that's been sweeping across america, killing at least 69 people is now bringing wet , windy weather to bringing wet, windy weather to the uk. the met office says the knock on effect of america's bomb cyclone will spells of unsettled weather over the next 7 to 10 days. forecast stores have that have issued an amber alert for heavy rain tomorrow for parts of scotland warning of flooding and travel disruption . flooding and travel disruption. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to patrick . it's back to patrick. welcome back, everybody it's 5:05 20 discussing a review into the government's privy rent program has found that taxpayers money has been handed to groups promoting islamist extremism . promoting islamist extremism. the review, led by william ,
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the review, led by william, found the individuals who've allegedly the taliban defended militant islamist groups, banned the uk and hosted hate preachers are amongst those who've received taxpayers money. to discuss this right now, i'm joined by social policy analyst. dr. akiba santos great, great. see you again. thank you very much for coming the show. big question for me on this is the questions being raised in the press today, which the press today, which is did the people the prevent scheme deliberately send taxpayers money people that know money to people that know support groups like the taliban and also wanted members and indeed also wanted members of our armed forces to refuse orders ? well, patrick, i'll say orders? well, patrick, i'll say one thing. it needs to be thoroughly but in truth, i'm not necessarily surprised because is under our state backed model of multiple literalism, we have seen so—called community leaders empowered under that model in order to try and facilitate social stability in our local communities when in reality some of those leaders and figures
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have been responsible for peddung have been responsible for peddling divisive, extreme racist narratives. so i think one thing for certain is that if these reports are indeed , then these reports are indeed, then what we're seeing here , a what we're seeing here, a fundamental failure of prevent and where groups are being funded to ultimately social cohesion and solid authority in their local communities. but reality of peddling extremists narratives which are posing a fundamental to social cohesion in the country . and it's not in the country. and it's not just overtly because there are groups in this country right now who say that they are very well—meaning islamic groups who actually want to create an islamic state in this country and are willing to lie to like for violence in order to do that . well, patrick, come across examples of , charitable examples of, charitable organisations. they speak the language of harmony and peace, but in reality , when you're but in reality, when you're looking at some of those , what looking at some of those, what they actually promote and the
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kind of organised nations, other organisations that they support secretly they want is various forms of regulation in the british social sphere in some cases they've even expressed they've expressed support for regimes which, which are very much hostile towards the british state and more broadly the western world. so i think that what this really calls for is a fundamental external operation of how that funding being allocated and the kind of organisations that are receiving those sources of funding . it those sources of funding. it says here at the home office, officials are terrified of looking . they are picking on looking. they are picking on muslims . what are they afraid of muslims. what are they afraid of ? well, i've i've no idea what they're afraid of, patrick, because a lot of these organisations on representative british muslims at all and this a point made in our a point i made in our conversation yesterday that if people want to take line of thinking what they're doing is
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actually betraying anti islamist british muslims who are just as concerned as the wider public when it comes to extremism in their own communities. no, exactly . this is the thing. and exactly. this is the thing. and i am concerned that this totally self—defeating on numerous different. that different. firstly the fact that actual money might actually gone to groups who are just using it to groups who are just using it to promote things like radical. i mean that's self—defeating course it is certainly from something called prevent but also the fact that if you think that you're doing this to not seem like you're picking on terrorism as in community, you're practising all the muslim community in on the one particular umbrella which is hugely on top that as well. i think it's self—defeating because if it looks like a cover up. i'll probably lead to more far issues because people far right issues because people feel as though security feel as though the security forces protecting forces are protecting them surely to do is surely the best thing to do is just this all out the just get this all out in the open. just get this all out in the open . well, one of the most open. well, one of the most ridiculous is accusations of prevent is it alienates british muslims en masse. but was a study by quest advisory a couple
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of years ago which showed that 56% of british muslims surveyed had not even heard to prevent that trick. so i'm not sure how you can be alienated by program you're not even aware of. and so i think that what we're seeing here, we're seeing the peddling of narratives are simply not rooted in reality. and we rooted in reality. and what we really need do is anti really need to do is anti islamist british muslims. they're very concerned about extremism in their local communities instead of potentially funding groups, which do not have social cohesion at heart. which do not have social cohesion at heart . we've heard cohesion at heart. we've heard that this report might be focusing quite significantly or prevent sorry might focusing quite significantly on far right more so than islamist terrorism. i understands that far right or far right ideology is increasing in the united kingdom . but i do in the united kingdom. but i do also understand there have been 35 times more deaths from islamist terrorism since 2005. in the uk than i have from far right terrorism. why is there
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apparently such a focus when it comes to the far right is it because maybe is easier to target. there's less backlash . target. there's less backlash. well i certainly wouldn't be in the business trivialising the far right terror threat of being a british muslim myself who's done considerable amount of research on far right antisemitism and also living all my life in which was the home of the english defence league formed. but i think what we are seeing is that some people are very concerned about taking a robust approach against islamist extremist because they're fearful that this is stigmatise seeing a religious minority. so i think that what we really need to do is look at how prevent activity is being orchestrated and day reflective of the ideological composition of the broader terror threat in this country. with the prevailing terror threat being islamist extremism, hard right, extreme represents the fastest growing threat . but represents the fastest growing threat. but in terms of
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represents the fastest growing threat . but in terms of relative threat. but in terms of relative size is dwarfed by the broader threat of islamist extremism. and we lose sight of that. no, exactly. i'm just going to read a couple of things out from today's about that said, the report cites four examples as of why many won't. two from the defence game including leader of a prevent funded civil society organisation which made public statements , favourable and statements, favourable and supportive of the taliban. they had referred to militant islam groups prescribed by the uk as the legitimate resistance groups and said that muslim members of the armed forces should refuse orders . is there an element? he orders. is there an element? he also society of certain muslim who really just want to infiltrate any single area ? our infiltrate any single area? our society almost like sleeper . i society almost like sleeper. i think that this is something that i've written about in the past patrick i think you do have you have sections of extremist sections of british muslim communities . ultimately what
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communities. ultimately what they want, they want islamist inspired control of the social sphere and if truth be told they certainly don't want british muslim participating the armed forces or law enforcement agencies more generally. so this is a matter of control and, influence. what we don't need is state resources potentially being allocated groups who think in such a warped way of britain and also hold extremist ideologies that pose a fundamental threat to . social fundamental threat to. social stability in the country does rikki neave. thank you very much as ever my government. great to have on the show doctor. keep us on that social analyst just reacting to the shocking that are coming out today. we hit on it a bit yesterday but actually it's moved on because more more detail coming about the detail is coming out about the idea and the big idea anyway. and the big question that whether or not money, taxpayers money was deliberately given to known to radical islamism . why could that
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radical islamism. why could that be? the question is, of course, is it deliberate? is this an agenda that can anyone actually be this incompetent ? be this incompetent? vaiews@gbnews.uk it has that same box i'm going right now , same box i'm going right now, because many of you be sending in your thoughts. this mix as as with of the problems, the with most of the problems, the revelation that taxpayers money is being given terrorist. so is being given to terrorist. so opposing to down opposing groups is to down liberal left wingers. the bleeding heart. liberals are more with terrorist more concerned with terrorist than and the safety of than victims and the safety of the majority might be concerned . this would be about the fact that it appears to be some kind of up. the only reason of cover up. the only reason we're reporting on or able we're reporting on this or able to it is because people to report it is because people have actually leaked this report. wanted it. it's report. they wanted it. it's been sitting a shelf for been sitting on a shelf for a couple of years and we're none the about it now the wiser about it and now people gone enough's enough people have gone enough's enough we see out there it not we want to see out there it not volunteered to this was not volunteered to us this was not given to us willingly. and given up to us willingly. and i can't but feel is that can't help but feel is that response here. office response here. home office officials terrified of officials are terrified of looking like they are picking on muslims . looking like they are picking on muslims. that looking like they are picking on muslims . that is looking like they are picking on muslims. that is not their decision to make. the british pubuc decision to make. the british
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public a right know public has a right to know whether you may. every whether or not you may. every single person that know has been giving some of our hard earned cash groups that may be very cash to groups that may be very well—meaning on may say that they want to bring community cohesion to clamp down on things like extremism in that they're literally saying they want to control extremism the whole time they're hate clerics they're welcoming hate clerics into and saying the into mosques and saying the muslim people should not fight in our armed forces and that actually they the taliban, we have a right to know whether or not these groups exist, even if it is a very incomplete and in truth, some people on the left in should be able to in society, we should be able to find that out just one more, jacklin says. used work for jacklin says. i used to work for local and a ten local government and a ten mandatory prevents training. it seemed front when on seemed back to front when on questionnaires. afterwards, i was told that it was not to prevent radicalisation , prevent radicalisation, terrorism, to prevent hatred terrorism, but to prevent hatred towards muslims islam, while towards muslims and islam, while it got strong views on, a lot of different sides to this particular gbviews@gbnews.uk an email address. thank you very much. everyone has getting in touch throughout the course of
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this the issue. it's an this show on the issue. it's an issue that i'm certainly not going to let drop here because i think the security and the safety should safety of our citizens should be paramount more so in the paramount even more so in the security, the protecting the security, the of protecting the names, names of, of names, the bad names of, some of the groups apparently seem the groups who apparently seem to to us lot of harm. to wish to do us a lot of harm. i our priorities are all i think our priorities are all a little skewed . you would be little bit skewed. you would be patrick christys on gb news coming shadow in equality coming shadow women in equality secretary anneliese dodds has blamed racial disparities in the ability on ability to pay energy bills on structural racism. tory backbencher the year that's right people we've an award winner on this show let pounce on lee anderson might have a thing or two just a foul that he joins me right after this .
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for women and equalities has blamed structural racism for the racial discrepancies in, the ability to pay energy bills , ability to pay energy bills, reacting to old figures , which reacting to old figures, which show that a higher than percentage of black adults struggle to their energy bills. annalise dodds said this the mental and toll puts on people unable heat their homes or keep a roof over that has is staggering and particularly intense for black families . intense for black families. labour has a long term plan tackle this structural racism that scars our society and leaves black, asian and minority ethnic people worse off through our race. equality but tory mp lee anderson responded to these dots by saying i want to be the voice that it would appear energy bills are racist. british gas asked me what colour my skin was when i signed up. this is what labour's done for. i cannot abide divisive politics. call this nonsense down. well joining me to keep on calling out this quote unquote is nonsense is
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westminster's most straight talking mp. it's lee anderson . talking mp. it's lee anderson. now, lee, i should just mention before start that you have recently won an award. actually, it is about that we had an award winner on this show. think everyone can agree with you were recently voted back bench tory mp of the year buckets of home readers and i would just like to say congratulations well done lee anderson, tory mp backbencher the year right talk to me about this nonsense that all these dogs talk . well, i all these dogs talk. well, i think patrick and happy christmas and and all that sort of stuff that goes on, i think she's probably under a little bit too much christmas sherry over the over the holiday period this is absolute nonsense and i'm i if i was a black man waking up this morning reading these sort of headlines i'd be pretty the labour pretty upset with the labour party. mean, how dare party. i mean, how dare they? how they how dare they they they structural racism on a person ability to be able to budget or pay ability to be able to budget or pay their utility bills again more divisive nonsense policy. she quotes 0. the s figures
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about disparity between blacks and asian families. a and white people . i mean, that's a lot of people. i mean, that's a lot of nonsense as well. we know for a fact that chinese and indian families earn proportionally more money. their white british people and she never talks on about you know the discrepancies about you know the discrepancies a white working class boys then left behind. and the more chance been going to oxbridge a black boy than a white working class professor. this quote into one side and calling out, you know, are problems in this country we're aware of that. but you know to talk about energy bills and blame it somebody's skin colour is shocking it's not latest so there is a new low but i'm not surprised they do seem very keen to privatise everything in terms of race for example the labour party analysis showed that black households are also four times more likely to be behind on rent or mortgage payments than white adults. apparently more than two thirds of black adults are finding it difficult afford their energy bills, compared
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with 45% of all adults . this is with 45% of all adults. this is supposedly anyway analysis done by the labour party . do you by the labour party. do you think that some people might quite keen for the labour party to find people on race when it comes to things like working class underperforming class white boys underperforming at . well they never talk at school. well they never talk about that subject country you know they always play the race you have to play the race card to fair, across the board, to be fair, across the board, talk every single, every talk about every single, every single different race, they single different race, but they won't they've got this won't do that. they've got this abandonment the labour abandonment that the labour party have. they always have about, putting about, you know, putting everything race, blaming everything back to race, blaming it . it's tried find it on racial. it's tried to find a of in society and try a group of in society and try and turn into victims and then convention they're victims and we're all nasty cruel tories and we've all being horrible people . is still a wonderful . so this is still a wonderful country we i would say country we live in. i would say that there's problems people that there's problems if people have with the bills have got problems with the bills regardless race, then we regardless of what race, then we need to get to the root cause. not just say this because they're different colour they're different skin colour and know is pretty and using you know is pretty poor labour. i'm poor from labour. but if i'm going honest, they need to
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going to be honest, they need to keep saying this sort of stuff, then that increases my majority in next election you in the next election is, you know, bit a concern know, actually a bit a concern that opposition thinks that the opposition thinks that there structural racism in. there is structural racism in. absolutely. area absolutely. every single area british life implies that they look around, all they survey , look around, all they survey, they think it's all racist and all it needs, ripping up root and branch. that's quite a bleak picture of britain. it it is. i could argue, patrick, that structural racism is rife in the labour party. i mean, moment the last time the party's sexism when was the last time labour party had a female leader or a, you know, an asian asian leader never had that . so the about never had that. so the about structural racism is they need to at their own party first. i mean pictures of the front bench know there's not much the racial diverse issue that they need to stop talking it. i always say this perhaps 99% of the population and the doors are knocked on. this never comes up. this is nonsense. this is rubbish. you know, people concerned about the fuel bills, etc, of they are. but this dispute in the race and racism card is pathetic is poor. well
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just on that now and moving this very slightly to another key issue that the labour party are very keen to put forward, which is that they are now the party of law and order. for a while i thought they were just the party of taking the knee lay . well, of taking the knee lay. well, no, but it's is interesting . no, but it's is interesting. now, i sat through the all the stages of the police and crime bill early on this year and the year before, when we were increasing sentences for rapists , murders and child molesters where we, you know, we're doing all sorts of good stuff, getting into legislation . yet the labour into legislation. yet the labour party voted against everything goes every stage of that goes every single stage of that bill. and i remember bill. and also i remember a debate i was in earlier, i think it was earlier this year where where the labour mp complaining that we were deporting foreign criminals. i mean that's the sort it was last year sort open says it was last year actually i it was drawn up actually i think it was drawn up as in parliament said it as sort of in parliament said it was to deport criminals so was cruel to deport criminals so near christmas were taken near to christmas were taken away from the family. is away from the family. this is the patrick. the labour party, patrick. i think , i think the people you
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think, i think the people you know, through , i know know, see through, i know they're serious about it. they're not serious about it. what doing is they don't what they're doing is they don't know in. there's know the bandwagon in. there's an 18 months, two an election in 18 months, two years time. it's not a bandwagon they can join on. but actually when comes crunch when it comes to the crunch i don't think the british people trust law and order trust them on on law and order the party do point the the labour party do point to the fact conviction rates will fact that conviction rates will charge. i should say have charge. rates, i should say have gone to around 5.4, which we can all is catastrophically. all agree is catastrophically. i just whether or not just wonder whether or not labour are going to labour party are going to get themselves little of a themselves on to a little of a sticky wicket when it comes to being in power. because one way to cut down like to maybe cut down on like violent crime will be oh, violent crime will be to, oh, i don't know, increase, and don't know, increase, stop and search seem to be search and they seem to be dedicated like that don't dedicated stuff like that don't they. stop and search itself as well is racist. yeah. well apparently is racist. yeah. this is more impoverished is quite stop and search. we quite right. stop and search. we know works, know. and you know it works, you know. and you know, say racist. know, they say it's racist. they'll say like , you they'll say things like, you know, more likely be know, you're more likely to be stopped you're stopped if you're if you're a black man , parts of london black young man, parts of london or know israel pass along the predominantly there are a lot of black men then the chances black men stopped and search
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men who get stopped and search a little and if it saves people's lives if it deters people from carrying and attacking carrying knives and attacking people there's got a good people there's got to be a good thing. and quite honestly the thing. and quite honestly on the ball what a skin is if ball and what a skin is if someone's gone off the bucket andifs someone's gone off the bucket and it's taken away and then they lock, you know, that's that's the matter. that's real crux of the matter. patrick labour's you say their own backbenchers won't be very happy with this sort of language. i'm pretty sure because there seem to be because there always seem to be interested the victims interested in not the victims feelings but you know, the actual perpetrators . some of actual perpetrators. some of these crimes, know, these horrible crimes, you know, these horrible crimes, you know, the scratch the feeling the scratch hurt the feeling sometimes. so obviously think sometimes. so obviously i think the see to the british public see to through i've got through this nonsense. i've got to ask you that i mean the case for labour being given a go at running country is becoming running this country is becoming increasingly loud when it looks like the conservative party are to grips with well various things . one to grips with well various things. one would to grips with well various things . one would expect the things. one would expect the conservative party to get to gnps conservative party to get to grips with to be honest with like immigration like illegal immigration like, the immigration like, housing, the policy ownership and policy of home ownership and like things like what you're seeing order. seeing now with law and order. i mean, is it frustrating for you
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to see your policy frankly deviating from its core and then you end up with the labour party allowing themselves stand up and say they're now going to be the of law and order. we've got the solutions for the channel. you know. yeah. no not absolutely agree but we have, we have myself down a little bit i think especially on the immigration that we're trying to get to gnps that we're trying to get to grips with it. you know, i'm pretty confident sohail get pretty confident sohail will get to it but we that to grips with it but we that before we marched to the top of the hill many times this the hill many times on this subject and my brother had in the that's no secret but the polls that's no secret but it's because everything it's not because everything they've done or of they've actually done or any of their policy any their their policy or any their policies to do with those policies is to do with those failing on consent, key promises. but, you know, we went two years to turn it wrong. like i say which is come out swinging. and like i say, i think social been superb at think social has been superb at the . you said all the the moment. you said all the right things. if we can that right things. if we can that right get that trust with right get that trust right with the public i'm the british public and i'm pretty when i speak pretty sure because when i speak to in nashville that, to voters in nashville on that, yes they're little bit grumpy.
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to voters in nashville on that, yes conservative .e bit grumpy. to voters in nashville on that, yes conservative partygrumpy. the conservative party especially the first time tory voters. but they're not telling me they're to labour me that they're going to labour they're a little bit they're just being a little bit let moment. but i'm let down at the moment. but i'm sure can win them by. leo sure we can win them by. leo won't you much longer, won't keep you much longer, but i wanted finish with i just wanted to finish with something that i think is quite important. okay, every important. okay, so every single yean important. okay, so every single year, home to year, conservative home to a sweepstake on conservative backbenchers tries to find most popular the winner with 54 popular and the winner with 54 votes is yourself have beaten bofis votes is yourself have beaten boris johnson you've got 35 votes. jacob rees—mogg got 32 remarkably series of brexit in the same bracket as john redwood, 29 age graham brady 22 votes but you are the winner of the conservative homes tory backbencher of the year this comes despite the fact that you have got into numerous scraps with the likes of steve bragg you've called out gary neville you've called out gary neville you said. well i think a lot of people would think you were educating people about . are we educating people about. are we on the cheap in a cost of living crisis? you copped a lot of
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stick for that, but lay the pubuc stick for that, but lay the public seem to love you. why oh, you know what, patrick? last yeari you know what, patrick? last year i was voted the worst man in britain by the daily mirror. now, i don't do actually voted in that poll. i think it was just the people that worked in the daily office. but the real one, real the real award one, the real the real award counts is that is the one set. not me as the oscar of not for me as the oscar of politics until after my family are so and you what? i just are so and you know what? i just try and say normal people try and say what normal people are like on the street not to be able to think, oh, right. well, there you go. you got another one of these the way out the one of these on the way out the way. fantastic. is laying in the home mp of the year. home backbench mp of the year. good stuff. okay. all lots of you have been getting in touch with thoughts labour's claims with thoughts on labour's claims of racist energy bills. daniels says if anything, the energy companies are racist towards this hard working brits, black, all , not towards these all whites, not towards these immigrants who everything paid for them. i mean, is for them. i mean, that is i don't the answer to the energy companies is it to be fair but you take your point that i think it a little bit annoying more
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it is a little bit annoying more than a little bit annoying. in facti than a little bit annoying. in fact i find it incredibly infuriating that's fact i find it incredibly infuriai ng that's fact i find it incredibly infuriai live that's fact i find it incredibly infuriai live now. that's fact i find it incredibly infuriai live now. for1at's fact i find it incredibly infuriai live now. for example, where i live now. for example, this the same by way, this will be the same by way, for people up and for millions of people up and down country i live down the country where i live right energy bills right now, see energy bills going up and you see whatever going up and you see whatever going up and then you walk going up and then if you walk within couple of miles within a couple of miles of where there's chance where you live, there's chance that find a hotel full that you will find a hotel full of people packed the rafters of people packed to the rafters who've their way across the who've made their way across the channel and everything that appears paid for them appears to be paid for them completely in the middle of a cost of living crisis. i find that, quite honestly. and then you do also look at all of the money that it pays to be going to ukraine. fine or i get there are a lot of reasons why somebody go to ukraine, somebody needs to go to ukraine, but we're being told that but when we're being told that we're ourselves and then we're skint ourselves and then you a load taxpayers you look at a load of taxpayers being people who support being sent to people who support the in prevent this the taliban in prevent this scheme, i find absolutely shocking. agree with shocking. yes, i can agree with you maybe you think that you that maybe you think that actually we are actually the way that we are spending our money this spending our money in this country not exactly country is not exactly top drawer. i'll drawer. james says. i'll paraphrase . james is saying, paraphrase. james is saying, here, now, what the heck are labour talking about? i'm sick ,
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labour talking about? i'm sick, tired of all this racist nonsense. and james, can't nonsense. and james, i can't help as though we're help but feel as though we're just being relentlessly if there is no there is no type of policy structural in energy structural racism in energy bills. i mean, i be the case you've got a metre in your house right or whatever for my to use a smart metre that just says how much energy you're using and that's what do want that's up. what do they want anyway. john don't do one anyway. john says don't do one more quick question more quick one. no question anderson comments anderson for pm his comments speak my constituents in speak to my constituents in ashfield want floor with ashfield want the floor with posh starmer and the rest of the islington set a real man. some people they're anyway. you're with me patrick christys on gb news coming up the new general secretary the trade union congress warned that congress has warned that unions could strikes the could coordinate strikes the same day next year. would it be wrong them do this i.e. wrong them to do this le. a general strike? i'll be joined by labour mp khalid mahmood and former tory mp neil parish to debate this question. but first is your latest headlines.
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patrick think it is? 533 i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom. the defence secretary says the uk is response to china opening up travel abroad is under review . ben wallace his under review. ben wallace his comments follow the government saying there were no plans to introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals from china . tests for arrivals from china. unlike several other countries , unlike several other countries, the us and italy , beijing has the us and italy, beijing has announced plans to reopen borders next week despite country's ongoing covid surge . country's ongoing covid surge. that sparked concern. mr. wallace says he expects to get some clarification . soon belarus some clarification. soon belarus has called for to ukraine after one of its air defence missiles fired over its territory. belarus's defence says it's brought a ukrainian s—300 . brought a ukrainian s—300. summoning ukraine's ambassador to investigate to prevent it happening again . it comes on the happening again. it comes on the day of one of the largest russian since the war began . russian since the war began. ukraine says it shot down 54 of the 69 russian missiles fired in
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the 69 russian missiles fired in the country which has reportedly left % of the western city of left% of the western city of lviv without power . a third man lviv without power. a third man has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher . the of the murder of 23 year old cody fisher. the non—league footballer was to death on boxing day and a birmingham nightclub which now faces being shut down. midlands police says a 22 year old man has been detained in. four others have been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. police say a third arrest has been made connection with the fatal shooting elle edwards. she was killed outside a pub in wirral on christmas eve. merseyside police says a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder another man and a woman is being questioned by officers . how the deadly storm has been sweeping across north america, killing at least 69 people is now bringing wet and windy weather to the uk . the met
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weather to the uk. the met office says the knock effect of america's bomb cyclone will see spells of unsettled weather over the next 7 to 10 days. forecasters have issued an amber weather alert for heavy rain on tomorrow for parts of scotland warning of flooding and . travel warning of flooding and. travel tv online and dab radio , this is.
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gb news a right now the show will be nothing without you wonderful people. whether you're watching home or listening to your radio or online you've all been or online and you've all been getting touch. gb news the getting in touch. gb news the gbnews.uk now specifically on gbnews.uk is now specifically on just waiting times. you remember i was to talking lawrence girls last night? wow jackie's been on the nhs has only one malaise waist senior managers and senior
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doctors must say responsibility for the shocking ways in our health service. jackie, anita , health service. jackie, anita, sign that you hear anyone on the street say i am pro nurse, i'm pro nurses. strike i am pro ambulance drivers strike. specifically, if you do see a or when i'm just saying it, just say, okay, fine then how do you feel about the fact there is a director of lived experience steroid diversity manager on four times your salary and they won't be able to answer it because they don't like eat their own. that's true . they their own. that's true. they don't like to criticise other members of the staff. they members of the nhs staff. they don't know criticise other don't know to criticise other members. just work members. they don't just work force, go, oh well know, force, they'll go, oh well know, everyone does job. yeah, but everyone does the job. yeah, but it's three four it's their job three or four times more important than you, the saves lives. now, the person who saves lives. now, isn't that exposure to a hypocrisy that just won't hypocrisy that really just won't more anyway, more money anyway, jim says, i disagree the doctor who is disagree with the doctor who is on regarding pay on your show regarding pay as you the nhs. the you go system for the nhs. the real reason is the nhs is such a terrible state because it has been managed the been badly managed. the politicians over the years . so politicians over the years. so yeah, mean look, of course yeah, i mean look, of course he's by
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he's been badly managed by politicians, absolutely too. much wasted on much money is being wasted on management and management. there you go. and most importantly , the most importantly, the pharmaceutical robbing pharmaceutical companies robbing the with that pricing of the nhs with that pricing of extortionate medicines. can i just say i'm waiting for the real deep dive on the actual price that pharmaceutical companies are charging us because if we are pumping in something like 199 billion quid a year into our nhs , and that is a year into our nhs, and that is not enough money pay staff as much money as we could do, not as as they'd like, but as much money as we do. there's not enough money to secure actual decent quality of services in every single case or facilities. where is all of that money going. why is it being so poorly? and a lot of it is it's absolutely extortionate what the pharmaceutical companies are doing to us. but isn't it amazing how little big pharma is really in news anyway, now that you say everybody's everyone's favourite people has warned to coordinate its strikes among unions in the new year ? oh yeah, unions in the new year? oh yeah, a general strikes today. paul nowak suggested that unless more
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successful negotiations the government took place unions may start taking strike action together on the same day, but is it wrong for these union embarrassed to be holding the country to ransom to debate this now i am by labour mp khalid mahmood and former conservative mp neil parish. thank you very much both of you. i'll start with you khalid . would you with you khalid. would you support a general strike ? i was support a general strike? i was for support the rights of the people to be able to strike strike if want to coordinate that they are totally at will to do that . and if you don't call do that. and if you don't call that a general strike. yes. because the people who work want to have the right. sort of pay and conditions and they should be able to do that once. they have gone through all the require movements of the thatcher bills that one forward that and they've done that and they should be able to then strike we so do have a sitting labour mp right here on the telly calibre mood saying he would support a general strike.
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yes wow. okay alright, fair enough. conservative mp neil pansh enough. conservative mp neil parish reaction and former conservative mp patrick. yes, i'm very much would not support that because i feel that i'm old enough to live through the seventies and all the strikes and were told of basically brought down what was then labour government and the more the government got involved the pay the government got involved the pay negotiations is in some ways the worse it got . and so the worse it got. and so therefore this idea of, a national strike, i'm if we are going to sort of deal each individual if the nurses more pay individual if the nurses more pay and i think people got a lot of sympathy for that can't afford the 19% or perhaps the uniform more that's offered at the moment. all these have the moment. all of these have got be taken in there , but got to be taken in there, but not just to coordinate a strike, because i think then it becomes very much i think everybody believes it becomes very political and i do believe now it's got to a state. is it about the workers or is it just about trying to bring down a government? and i think know at this moment public want to see
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pubuc this moment public want to see public sector workers get some more pay but they don't actually want these coordinated strikes. they don't to be upset with their travel arrangements to the nhs. i mean the postal workers actually striking over was absolutely crazy . i dare say it absolutely crazy. i dare say it because that's the time that the post office can actually make some real money and. it always struggles to make money. of course, me being previously a rural , i'm course, me being previously a rural, i'm just a course, me being previously a rural , i'm just a i'm farming rural, i'm just a i'm farming now, you know, just dealing with all this rain that's going on. but seriously you know what worries me about the postal is the universal side of it, because naturally rural post of postal libraries is much more expensive . i'm going to postal libraries is much more expensive. i'm going to i'm postal libraries is much more expensive . i'm going to i'm just expensive. i'm going to i'm just going to bring labour mp khalid mahmood in there. i can't help but feel as though you are at odds with own party leader odds with your own party leader on. this he appear to on. this he doesn't appear to want general want any strike. a general strike , would well, no, strike, would you be? well, no, but what? what you be but what what? what you be doing, be resigning the doing, will you be resigning the labour whack and going on your own, getting the picket own, getting on the picket lines? not the is lines? no, that's not the is with the front bench with the with the front bench
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and is quite to and keir starmer is quite to hold the front bench on this issue. but a backbencher as somebody has gone through the national health services with the people in the nhs who've gone through a transport as a transplant, myself , as i've said transplant, myself, as i've said to you, i know the hard work that do what the government is going is start talking to going to do is start talking to them. all and that's them. that's all want and that's what said it just before what they've said it just before christmas . if that health christmas. if that health secretary of state spoke to them, we wouldn't be in this position, in the position, this in the government's that's keir government's. that's what keir starmer just got to be in starmer say. just got to be in the country and they've got to do and they've to talk do that and they've got to talk to at christmas. are to them just at christmas. are you are you are you at home at the minute? i'm you home the minute? i'm asking you home to last period to do to give up last period to do with your family. i mean, i'm abroad at the moment. i'm not a voted off. fair enough. okay. well it's just i'm just wondering, because you are obviously insecure employment, you get a nice salary . in fact, you get a nice salary. in fact, if you did get trained, the taxpayer could pay for that journey from wherever you normally live. over back to parliament you probably have a
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nice little break with your family but a lot of people weren't able to see their family for get that job as . for strikes or get that job as. a freelancer say well they're not on a secure wage because of these strikes. i think you can't use you can't use people who are working and asking for their pay conditions the people . conditions against the people. is the issue with the government just doing your best to be supportive of this general strike? to with you strike? to be honest with you and the position you're in, some would call it an ivory tower tower. well, it's not. we work we work members of we work as members of parliament. that's we have. parliament. that's what we have. the what have. the payment is what we have. neil that. he resigned neil was on that. he resigned a member of parliament and that's said as far as we're concerned , said as far as we're concerned, me as a labour member of parliament, i work virtually throughout the i'm still working now i've been working throughout that. we're looking at my emails, to the emails, responding to the demands some way i carry on demands some in a way i carry on looking patch see what's looking my patch and see what's going but what we have to do going on. but what we have to do is the government has to look at how we can support those people in national service in the national health service and and all
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and ambulance service and all those work very hard those people who work very hard throughout the period and talk to what want is the to them. what they want is the government. to them. okay government. talk to them. okay now people who seem to be now the people who seem to be behind strikes to behind these strikes appear to behind these strikes appear to be further and further be veering further and further the actually genuinely the left and actually genuinely well further left than the actual party at the actual labour party at the minute. that is important to say, to wonder, say, although i was to wonder, so what do you think? do you think you think that are think do you think that we are actually just people who actually just seeing people who are to push some are desperate to push some kind of socialist agenda, of radical socialist agenda, doing to do, that doing all they can to do, that knowing they don't have knowing that they don't have mainstream political support. you what happens you see, i think what happens with every with any type of organisation, higher get organisation, the higher you get up in places, the more militant you become and the more militants over . and i you become and the more militants over. and i think militants take over. and i think many the workers have many of the workers have got a very cause . but you very legitimate cause. but you see there are individuals in dependent pay reviews . they are dependent pay reviews. they are they are settling . they should they are settling. they should settle the dispute and i will repeat what i said at the beginning of the interview, bringing the government in sounds a clever idea, but sounds like a clever idea, but it because . all it will do it won't because. all it will do is escalate it because if you gave in to one particular
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section of workers, then they'd all want it. and then the ones that started at the that started off at the beginning they hadn't beginning would that they hadn't had . and they'll had quite enough. and so they'll go some more and. it's go back for some more and. it's just repeating itself just history repeating itself now. everybody to get now. everybody wants to get a decent wage. it's got to be paid for. it's got to be paid for by private sector and other taxpayers well, which are taxpayers as well, which are having job making . a having an awful job making. a living energy crisis , living now with energy crisis, you to work, you know, getting to work, hospitality sector, all of that over christmas being badly affected . all these strikes, we affected. all these strikes, we are all it together and i know the labour party would say that, but of course now we are in it with the public and private sector, you know, i mean if trying to run a business and make a living at the moment very difficult and i think people should a little when should be a little careful when they co—ord in waiting they start co—ord in waiting strikes because i think then i think a lot of the staff believe that it was it was a politically motive aided and i don't think you are right now i was going to give the final word to the college. democracy is itching to get involved very quickly going . just quickly. what
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. yeah, just very quickly. what they people need not they need is people do need not new rise in payment what they're asking for the government has sit down to talk to them. the pay sit down to talk to them. the pay reviews are dated. the last health service paid review was considered february . the data considered in february. the data was six months before that, before we had huge in before we had huge hike in inflation and interest rates and the fuel food poverty. so you can't to that. so what you've got to do , the government are got to do, the government are going to forward and deal going to come forward and deal with bring that bring with it. but bring that bring that with you forward but that thing with you forward but not the government directly get involved because it won't work . involved because it won't work. but somebody do something it. yeah, yeah. okay i was on he seems to be about it but i mean just everyone we know even driving exams, right. anyway, we've out we've run time. we've out we've run out of time. we're have have you we're going to have to have you thought. i have enjoyed this. i appreciate the spirit in which it all intended. thank you it was all intended. thank you very of you. that was very much, both of you. that was labour member a labour mp member for such a beautiful parish. a beautiful parish. that was a labour mp live on air saying he supports a general strike . so supports a general strike. so make of that what you will anyway. the is rewriting anyway. the bbc is rewriting history to promote a woke
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agenda. that's according to a group leading historians. the group of leading historians. the from history reclaim sighs from the history reclaim sighs multiple examples of what they describe as bias in the national broadcaster's documentaries and accuses the corporation of failing offer impartiality to discuss this now. i'm joined by the co—editor of history and professor at cambridge university is davidson . you very university is davidson. you very very much. great to have you on the show. i read with lots of interest your report into the bbc's is wokeism trying to rewrite history and in france it's led to one individual saying that he thinks that the bbc put a fatwa on bbc has put a fatwa on churchill. is that too extreme? well, i think that is yes. i mean, i know who said that. i admire him greatly, but it's you know, it's a sort of metaphor. but but there is a real danger that the sort of hyperbole gets of control and. what really worries me is , that sort of worries me is, that sort of sense that we're not getting into a debate at all what we're looking at is strong assertions
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by who have particular views about the history basically of the last 500 years, which in their view is all dominated by their view is all dominated by the history of the horrific trans slave trade . and they trans slave trade. and they don't want to discuss with with people us what's really going on.and people us what's really going on. and what we're saying is, look, come on, we need to have a proper discussion of the bbc has got somehow sort of caught up in this and what the bbc needs to be doing is it needs to be getting people of very differing views to sort of sit side by side and talk, to get about the way in which history be presented. i'll just give you an example just give an example. i know you're aware of it. for our viewers and listeners, the programme is highlighted in this report include get this, the misadventures ranganathan. so misadventures of ranganathan. so they've sent the comedian, the bbc , to visit a place called bbc, to visit a place called freetown in sierra leone. he discusses britain's role in slave trade without mentioning its all the city is called
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freetown because was the destination of freed slaves freed by the british set up by the british and one would appear had is a wilful airbrushing of the good things about british history and a wilful highlighting of the bad things . highlighting of the bad things. does the bbc hate brits ? it does the bbc hate brits? it i don't think see hate britain, but i they've developed the nofion but i they've developed the notion of britain which is so caught up with this sort sense that britain to apologise for things that it did several hundred years ago , that even the hundred years ago, that even the great innovations of the industrial in which britain a great leader you know at the end of the 18th century that all this was supposedly funded the slave trade. it's simply true. i mean, economic historians believe that. well, very, very few of them did. an old argument that goes back to a book published in the 1940s. so
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they've just got caught up with this. it's a sort of way of thinking that's become very fashionable. and what we're saying is, look, you to dig deepen saying is, look, you to dig deeper. it's not as simple as that. of the points about the study of , the past, the study of study of, the past, the study of anything really in modern society is you to have nuance, you have to have a sense of proportion . you have to you and proportion. you have to you and you have to listen to other argument . i think you have to listen to other argument. i think i'm very i'm very worried about this. i'm just interested because a little bit pressed for time. david, sorry about this, but i'm concerned about about the why and effect that this has and the effect that this has because people, because a lot of people, especially the younger generation, will just watch these clock that these things, not clock that there is any kind of one side in this going here. just take it this going on here. just take it as facts. and could be as facts. and that could be really . yes, that is precisely really. yes, that is precisely sort of thing that worries us and know it gets into school curricula . these films are shown curricula. these films are shown again and again in schools and so and this sort of idea, it becomes just the established view when you know there's a
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very long tradition of , serious very long tradition of, serious historical research that is showing things in a different light. so what you need to do about this? i'm not saying that you should shut off the arguments of people who have these. if you like woke views about the past . these. if you like woke views about the past. i'm saying we have to put them in a position where forced to argue their case because i think they will lose on the battlefield. they will actually lose. you know, we can show many things. it's not just what they've ignored . it's the what they've ignored. it's the way in which factual information is. is distorted. i mean, things like the involvement of african kings in actually selling the slaves . it's a horrible story , slaves. it's a horrible story, but it's something that to the whole , humanity has to . and it's whole, humanity has to. and it's unfashionable to tell them for, which is, i suspect, why they're not doing as you alluded to earlier. david, thank very, very much . that is the co—editor of much. that is the co—editor of history required and professor at cambridge university. david alafia. that just wasn't easy
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because we've had it. all right, ladies and gentlemen. from prevent from nhs on its prevent from the nhs on its knees to labour now being party of and order to a labour mp of law and order to a labour mp calling his support for calling for his support for a general strike. good grief. well, now up . we've got dewbs& well, now up. we've got dewbs& co with emily carver. emily, what are you all doing about this time? another brilliant show, patrick i don't know about you, but i've got bit of covid related. well, a sense of deja vu today. don't know if you've seen. vu today. don't know if you've seen . but italy have brought seen. but italy have brought back mandatory covid testing for travellers from china. the are apparently considering it or at least it's under review worried about this. i think this could lead us on a slippery slope back to lockdown restrictions and the like. i think we need to avoid the hysteria and be sensible about. the hysteria and be sensible about . all right. well i hand about. all right. well i hand you over now to emily carver. hello there. i'm clancy, with your weather update . a rain your weather update. a rain warning has been issued for ireland and scotland overnight . ireland and scotland overnight. a focussed amber warning . so a focussed amber warning. so a higher risk of some high
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rainfall totals across southern scotland . snow and ice warning scotland. snow and ice warning also for central areas of scotland. now, low pressure to the north of the uk, whilst one moves in from the atlantic , moves in from the atlantic, allowing for some wet weather overnight . hence the reason why overnight. hence the reason why there have been warnings issued so the evening so through the evening overnight. cold across the central northern of scotland. watch out for ice and chilly night eastern counties as night across eastern counties as more cloud arrives from the west. look, this it'll west. but look, this rain, it'll be heavy. let's in quickly across ireland , across northern ireland, typically far of england . typically far north of england. well, as the isle of man winston will pick to severe gale force across the north, the far north of irish sea coast gales elsewhere associated this rain across and wales, across england and wales, which again will track swiftly eastwards . so a wet again will track swiftly eastwards. so a wet and windy start to the day watch out for surface water issues. obviously some heavy bursts likely it will surface water issues. obviously sometowardsyursts likely it will surface water issues. obviously sometowards the s likely it will surface water issues. obviously sometowards the eastely it will surface water issues. obviously sometowards the east and will surface water issues. obviously sometowards the east and its.l clear towards the east and its wake a few showers across scotland certainly for northern ireland as well. still snow above 200 metres and we'll see a few running in across england and wales. but here's some drier to the day and the bluster to end the day and the bluster rather than those gales
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temperatures. then on the mild side in the south but still cold in the north six or seven degrees celsius now through friday a legacy of friday evening, a legacy of showers continues across northern england. southern scotland as well as northern ireland. that rain continues also across far north of also across the far north of scotland shetland, orkney. scotland for shetland, orkney. but will then will but it will clear and then will bursts arrive from the bursts of rain arrive from the southwest into . the early hours southwest into. the early hours of new year's eve . so some of new year's eve. so some sporadic bursts of rain and pushing ever eastwards as we head through the day on saturday. this rain again could be heavy in places again. the winds will pick up gales the coast, but could see some showers just later across northern ireland , western northern ireland, western scotland, orono an unsettled end to 2023. more rain on tuesday across both southern and areas dner across both southern and areas drier on monday.
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