good evening at 6 pm. that means it's time for dewbs& c0. means it's time for dewbs& co. with me, emily carve. and now it with me, emily carve. and now it is rather hard to narrow down what i wanted. talk to my panel and you at home about this evening. there seems to be so much knocking around. good much news knocking around. good mostly, but i want mostly, mostly bad. but i want to off the show getting to kick off the show by getting your something that your views on something that i may have a bit of an may actually have a bit of an unpopular opinion this is unpopular opinion about. this is whether back whether we should bring back mandatory those mandatory testing for those arriving in this country from china. that's testing, of china. that's covid testing, of course , at least it. the us course, at least on it. the us has done it. apparently japan and also done it. our and india have also done it. our government seems be thinking government seems to be thinking about saying they about it despite saying they weren't going only moments if weren't going to only moments if not earlier today. my view is that they should not give in to the pressure to be seen, to act, not be swept up in a panic all over again and avoid bringing back these types of rules. i don't think it will prevent variants from getting here. i

don't it will save lives don't think it will save lives or protect our freedoms domestically. think domestically. in fact, i think it it far more likely it will make it far more likely that see slippery slope that we'll see a slippery slope back the hideous lockdown back to the hideous lockdown restrictions too long restrictions we had not too long ago . i also want to know what ago. i also want to know what you think about labour's latest attempts to position themselves as law and order. as the party of law and order. now discussed last night now we discussed last night labour's analysis of crime data which showed overi million thefts and burglaries went unsolved last year. a truly shocking stat. now they've turned their attention to anti—social behaviour . the most anti—social behaviour. the most eye catching proposal seems to be that they'll allow the victims of anti—social behaviour to choose how the perpetrators, the offenders are punished. so if labour get to power, it could be you. if you are lucky enough to be a victim of anti—social behaviour, who gets to decide whether the perpetrator gets, say , 40 hours picking up rubbish say, 40 hours picking up rubbish from the local high streets as a punishment, or perhaps 40 hours cleaning a local community cleaning up a local community centre. whatever floats your boat going to be boat. we're also going to be discussing the latest strike action. the new action. of course, the new

general secretary of the trade unions congress, the tuc has warned coordinated strikes may come in the new year if the government doesn't give in to pay government doesn't give in to pay or at least pay demands or at least negotiate. ben wallace, the defence secretary, says the government will not be held to ransom by striking workers. i'll be asking whether the government should guns in should stick to its guns in the face union threats or are face of union threats or are they losing the high ground in all this? and finally , is the all of this? and finally, is the bbc guilty of rewriting british history? that's what a group of leading academics have warned that they are doing just that to promote, quote, woke agenda . promote, quote, a woke agenda. and they provided a number of examples to back their examples to back up their claims. now all of that to come tonight dewbs& co i'll also tonight on dewbs& co i'll also be introducing top notch be introducing my top notch panel one moment. but panel in just one moment. but first, let's get the latest news headlines. emily thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the defence secretary says the uk is response to china . opening up travel abroad is

under review. ben wallace his comments follow the government saying there were no plans to introduce mandatory covid 19 tests for arrivals from china . tests for arrivals from china. unlike several other countries , unlike several other countries, including the us and italy . including the us and italy. beijing has announced plans to reopen borders next week, despite the country's ongoing covid surge that sparked concern. mr. wallace says he expects to know more soon. what i think the government has said, it's not going to keep that under review and review. whether different countries with covid outbreaks , etc, should, should outbreaks, etc, should, should obviously face different restrictions. think as as we restrictions. i think as as we speak that is being reviewed and i'll expect to see some clarification , i think by the clarification, i think by the department transport probably today or tomorrow. while the defence secretary also insisted uk borders are safe as the military steps in to cover for striking border force officials , unions claim the country's borders are less secure as more than a thousand immigration officers walk out in a dispute over pay. a senior sources told

gb news that passport control operations are running very smoothly at all six airports. a third man has been arrested on suspicion of murdering 23 year old cody fisher on boxing day. the non—league football player was stabbed to death in the crane nightclub in birmingham, which now faces being shut down. west midlands police have said a 22 year old man has been detained in london. he's the third person to be arrested on suspicion of murder. while four others have been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender . merseyside police have offender. merseyside police have said a third person has been arrested in connection with the fatal shooting of a 26 year old woman in wirral. fatal shooting of a 26 year old woman in wirral . elle edwards woman in wirral. elle edwards was killed outside a pub on christmas eve . police say a 31 christmas eve. police say a 31 year old man from tranmere has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder a man and a woman who were previously arrested are still being questioned by officers . bedroom

questioned by officers. bedroom has called for. ukraine to investigate after one of its air defence missiles was fired over its territory . belarus's defence its territory. belarus's defence says it's brought down a ukrainian s3 drone missile, summoning ukraine. ukraine's ambassador to investigate to prevent it happening again . it prevent it happening again. it comes on the day of one of the largest russian strikes since the war began. ukraine says it's shot down 54 of the 69 russian missiles fired in the country, which has reportedly left 90% of the western city of lviv without power . vladimir putin could be power. vladimir putin could be unseated by his own generals if ukraine continues to make gains in its counter—offensive . that's in its counter—offensive. that's according to the former head of the british army. speaking to gb news general lord richard donner said strategic losses and rapidly falling morale could see the russian leaders enforced removal. but lord dannatt insist it's vital the uk , the us and it's vital the uk, the us and other allies continue to supply

ukraine with western weapons. it's important that the european countries do well as you're looking a bit wobbly. important european countries stay behind, but really important that uncle sam stays behind ukraine. that's absolutely critical because the sophisticated weaponry that's going in is the game changer. the vatican says former pope benedict is in a serious , stable benedict is in a serious, stable condition after concerns were raised over his health. in a statement, it said the 95 year old is lucid and had rested well overnight. yesterday, pope francis called for prayers for his predecessor, warning he was very sick. the former head of the catholic church became the first pope to stand down in 600 years. in 2013 , at least 19 years. in 2013, at least 19 people have been killed and up to 30 are missing. following a huge fire at a hotel casino in cambodia . that's according to cambodia. that's according to local media. the blaze started around midnight last night at the grand diamond city casino on the grand diamond city casino on the border with thailand . police

the border with thailand. police say around 400 people were in the building when it caught fire. authorities are still investigating . the deadly storm investigating. the deadly storm that's been sweeping across nonh that's been sweeping across north america. killing at least 69 people is now bringing wet and windy weather to the uk. the met office says the knock on effect of america's bomb cyclone will see spells of unsettled weather over the next 7 to 10 days. forecasters have issued an amber weather alert for heavy rain tomorrow for parts of scotland warning of flooding and travel disruption . some breaking travel disruption. some breaking news to bring you in the last few minutes . and new figures few minutes. and new figures show at least 25 children have now died in england from strep a . the uk health security agency says. they says there have been 151 cases of the invasive disease in children aged between one and four. so far this year. that compares to 194 cases in the same age group across both years of two thousand and seven

and 2018. across all age groups, including adults , there have including adults, there have been 122 deaths in england . tv, been 122 deaths in england. tv, onune been 122 deaths in england. tv, online and dab apostle radio. this is gb news. now it's back to dewbs & co with . to dewbs& co with. emily thank you, tatiana . so yes, thank you, tatiana. so yes, welcome to dewbs& co with me emily carver. i will introduce my panel. now we've got political commentator joe phillips with us and also former advisor to liz truss , a bennett advisor to liz truss, a bennett short job indeed, but what a ride i have to say. yes, what a ride. hopefully we can get a little bit of a little bit of gossip as we go along anyway, i also want to know, of course , also want to know, of course, your thoughts throughout the show , particularly on that first show, particularly on that first topic that we're going to be covering . should we bring back

covering. should we bring back mandatory testing for those arriving in this country from china? that's because apparently there is a massive surge of covid cases in china, because they've finally relaxed some of that covid restriction over there. do we really want to see more mandatory testing ? do we more mandatory testing? do we want to go back to that world? please do get in touch with me. jabs at gbnews.uk or on twitter at gb news. so as i was saying, it's a bit of a deja vu moment for me. the states has become the latest country to impose this mandatory covid testing on visitors from china, italy is now urging the rest of the european union, the whole of the european union, the whole of the european union, the whole of the european union, to exactly european union, to do exactly the same thing . earlier the same thing. earlier today, a government spokesperson said there no plans to introduce there were no plans to introduce these tests in this country, but then the defence secretary told gb news earlier that the uk's response to china opening up overseas travel is quote, overseas travel is in, quote, under review . so i'm asking you, under review. so i'm asking you, should we follow the us, india, japan and italy and return to mandatory testing for those

travelling china ? or could travelling from china? or could this signal a return to more and more travel restrictions and also infringements on our civil liberties ? so joe, should liberties? so joe, should i start with you? what do you think of this? it makes absolute common sense to test people coming from mainland china, because we cannot trust the data that's come out of china. we don't know the true number of deaths. all we know is they went to an extreme lockdown , then to an extreme lockdown, then they relaxed it. they let the genie out of the bottle . so genie out of the bottle. so we've got no data that we can rely on coming out of china. it seems utterly ridiculous to me to risk going back to the sort of lockdown and the sort of infringements on our lives that you just talked about. if we just allow people to come in from a country where they may well bring in a variant that we don't yet know about, and it just it doesn't seem a big deal that if you're coming from that place, you're tested. well, why only china ? covid is going

only china? covid is going around many because we crossed the world, including our own. we have vaccinations in this country that people can opt into . so what's the problem? because we can't trust the chinese data . so if there are a million cases in china , a billion cases cases in china, a billion cases in china, that's what we should we should we should use scientific evidence because we don't know what variants they've got . and yes, of course, it's got. and yes, of course, it's going to mutate and it's probably going to be around for the rest of our lives. well, exactly one say when do we. because because why would because what? because why would you bring you why would you bring in something that at the moment doesn't appear to be in this country? why wouldn't you just use a common sensing if you get something like foot and mouth disease on a farm , for instance, disease on a farm, for instance, you barriers in so people you put barriers in so people have to walk through disinfectant . it's not a big disinfectant. it's not a big deal disinfectant. it's not a big deal. this a new disease. deal. this isn't a new disease. it's covid. we've had covid in this country. we still have it in this country. flu is worse at the moment , in this country. flu is worse at the moment, according to the stats, but it still floating around. we don't even test

people very much anymore at all, really. so why would we then launch a new drive to test absolutely everyone coming in from china ? well, what we've from china? well, what we've learnt over the last few years is when china sneezes , the rest is when china sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. and that essentially is a new disease, which we knew nothing about. so there was an overreaction in my view. but part of that was because we were flying blind. we didn't know how severe it was, we didn't know how current and how much of a spread that was. and so that's why there of flapping why there was sort of flapping aboutin why there was sort of flapping about in which you're looking back a lot of, know, back a lot of, you know, armchair generals say, oh, armchair generals now say, oh, well, have acted well, we should have acted faster. should been faster. we should have been testing, doing this testing, we should be doing this quicker. and so think view quicker. and so i think my view is basically if we are to then be testing, let's decide to get on it and get on with it on with it and get on with it sooner look at what's sooner because look at what's happening they've happening with italy. they've been find the been testing and they find the planes you know, half full been testing and they find the pl.people you know, half full been testing and they find the pl.people testu know, half full been testing and they find the pl.people test positive half full been testing and they find the pl.people test positive for: full of people test positive for covid. admittedly, they're not finding a new finding, as you say, a new variant, which is interesting and flagging. and worth flagging. but it's also remembering,

and worth flagging. but it's also remembering , look, as also worth remembering, look, as viewers will very remember viewers will very much remember , is living experiment , china is a living experiment in art of a zero covid in the art of a zero covid policy. they try to drive it down, try eliminate it. down, they try to eliminate it. and result , they have a and as a result, they have a cult following. the health secretary said we should replicate interesting replicate is interesting point, but results and but you look at the results and the population is minimal or is vaccination rates they have a vaccine that actually was far less effective than we have in the western world. and as a result, there is generally weaker. and that's why the chinese government really chinese government has really had pay for. and the had hell to pay for. and the domestic backlash, what's domestic backlash, oh, what's that with whether we that got to do with whether we should be bringing back mandatory reuters they mandatory testing? reuters they don't to with don't learn to live with it. this mind , this is all about, in my mind, it's not a choice between protecting the freedoms in this country or having this mandatory testing. i don't think if we have this model testing that will necessarily mean that we are, then going to keep our freedoms. in fact, i think it might actually lead to us losing our freedoms because up our freedoms because it whips up this you've been this hysteria. if you've been reading papers today online reading the papers today online and really is and everywhere, there really is and everywhere, there really is a sense of deja vu , this same

a sense of deja vu, this same fear of what's going on in china. we've had this vaccine. surely the best thing we should be the chinese be doing is telling the chinese to use our vaccines. well, so the way to stop the hysteria is to say, okay , we're going to to say, okay, we're going to test. and rightly says, in test. and as is rightly says, in europe, in italy , they've tested europe, in italy, they've tested what do we do with them ? we what do we do with them? we don't in or put them don't let them in or we put them into quarantine because if they've got a variant that we don't yet, last such a don't know yet, the last such a hypothetical. we don't we don't. we can't. but emily, we're deaung we can't. but emily, we're dealing in hypotheticals because as i said at the outset, we don't have data from china don't have the data from china on variant is now. i think on what variant is now. i think 16 people from china tested with the omicron variant, which everybody's quite relieved about because that is exactly what we're all living with . but if we're all living with. but if you suddenly get a whole load of people coming from china with a different variant, we will all end up going into lockdown or some construction. don't think some construction. i don't think it's an either or. well, i think it's an either or. well, i think it is i think if you have it's not just china but suffering from covid. as i said as i said

, we can't trust the national government and public health officials will be getting the sudes officials will be getting the slides ready, ready for, you know, the bbc news 5 pm. special where we start looking at, you know, how many people have covid in china , how many have covid in china, how many chinese have come over with covid and then again whips up the hysteria as people start clamouring for lockdown ends, etc, etc. we saw how it went from saying , actually, people in from saying, actually, people in china shouldn't be coming over here. they should be tested, etc, and we saw it etc, etc. and we saw how it ended up with people being locked homes, unable to locked in their homes, unable to sit in the park. no, sit on a chair in the park. no, sure is worth remembering that we should sunak. of course, as this clear in the this was made clear in the spectator someone who was spectator was someone who was out front flew back out in the front who flew back from california stop. sorry, from california to stop. sorry, rishi the prime minister rishi sunak, the prime minister , was against the , that he was against the christmas lockdown. i think bofis christmas lockdown. i think boris was being sort of pushed by sage and all the rest into doing so. he's actually got, you know, good sound principles on this. and you can imagine that he's not going to be reaching for lockdown. that's first

for lockdown. that's the first reaction be. yeah reaction he's going to be. yeah we learned to with we have learned to live with covid. that is covid. china has not. that is the problem. i don't know about that you cast your that because if you cast your mind there was so much mind back, there was so much pressure from the media, from pubuc pressure from the media, from public other public health, from other governments around the world for all to steps all government to take steps that i don't believe boris johnson at the time, but wish to do. but that was then we're talking about now . nobody is for talking about now. nobody is for one minute suggesting that the uk or indeed the rest of europe go into any sort of lockdown . go into any sort of lockdown. but what we are saying, or people like me are saying and other people as well, is that actually it makes common sense. you only testing people coming from mainland china. i don't think anyone would be talking about it if it weren't for the fact that it had been put in the media today and yesterday , that media today and yesterday, that they were even thinking about this or that this was under review or that italy was doing it. i mean, if people would be living their lives as per normal, we wouldn't be talking about on this programme about anything on this programme if in the if they hadn't been in the media. we're talking

media. everything we're talking aboutis media. everything we're talking about is in the media. the point i'm that i'm trying to make is that hysteria breeds and hysteria breeds hysteria and i do worry the concern questions of that. but think may well of that. but i think i may well be in a minority before we go to the break, i'm going to just read out of your comments read out some of your comments actually of you at actually from those of you at home watching . daniel says, in home watching. daniel says, in my opinion, yes, we should bring back mandatory testing to those who entering uk. terence who are entering the uk. terence says a no brainer. we says this is a no brainer. we did nothing the first time around until it was too late, sylvia says. definitely we should compulsory testing should have compulsory testing of chinese travellers of incoming chinese travellers to uk , etc. etc. jonathan to the uk, etc. etc. jonathan however, is with me. emily, i really hope the government sticks to their guns. no doubt the chinese are itching to travel and spend their hard earned money and so benefits in our economy. well, apparently that's what germany and austria are saying. and also france, i believe don't believe they desperately don't want to the want to close the doors to the chinese . kristen says, i don't chinese. kristen says, i don't see the point of introducing testing. was proven be testing. it was proven to be useless when we had it for preventing the spread of the disease. we it, it disease. if we do test it, it should just be to check our

should just be to check that our vaccines could the vaccines could reduce the seriousness. i think that's seriousness. yes, i think that's a good point, to be honest. what exactly are we going to achieve by testing? do we really want to be locked up and locking down the chinese some kind of the chinese in some kind of facility ten days until facility for ten days until we know they haven't got know that they haven't got covid? bit mad to me. covid? it's all a bit mad to me. it does like groundhog day it does seem like groundhog day in horrible nightmare in some horrible nightmare re—emerging anyway. re—emerging in my mind anyway. so please do keep your views coming in. it does seem that most in disagreement most people are in disagreement with me, but i'm sure some of you, some of you agree with me on one. anyway, labour's on this one. anyway, labour's shadow has shadow justice secretary has said labour government said that a labour government would victims to choose would allow victims to choose offenders punishments for anti—social behaviour. is that a gimmick or is it a good idea.

now a lot of you have been getting in. i'm getting email after email after email about whether we should bring in

mandatory testing when it comes to the chinese coming over here. and help but suspect and i can't help but suspect that people suspicions of china, which are fair enough and well—placed, may be having a impact on their views in terms of not trusting the chinese. i come from it from a philosophical standpoint , but i philosophical standpoint, but i worry that if we start bringing back this kind of rules, these kind of stringent rules that were that were in place throughout the pandemic , or for throughout the pandemic, or for much of it, that we're going to go back, we're going to hit the reverse button, we're going to go back to the horrible times of lockdown and constant death tolls, etc. etc. i don't want to go back to that, but sarah very much disagrees with me. she says, thought i'd agree says, never thought i'd agree with joe phillips. well, there we so not at all. it's quite we go. so not at all. it's quite simple. emily, china lied and thousands died testing is not locking down, but it does get here again with a different strain. we are done. if it does get here again , steve says, who get here again, steve says, who pays for all of these tests? what is the point when you can

test negative one day and positive 24 hours later? how reliable all the anyway? reliable all the tests anyway? that's point. there that's a very good point. there have some dodgy tests have been some dodgy tests and we're going have to fork we're all going to have to fork out them. but don't know out for them. but i don't know how travellers come from how many travellers come from china year anyway. china every year anyway. i imagine it will students imagine it will hit students very heavily also people very heavily and also people with of spending with a lot of spending power which with on a high which we could do with on a high streets anyway, is streets anyway. anyway, this is dewbs& of course, with me dewbs& co of course, with me emily carver. i will reintroduce my panel. political commentator joe sarah's joe phillips and sarah's new film, a fan favourite film, who is a fan favourite this evening. and of course, former adviser to liz truss by bennett, now so other things you know. well absolutely . all know. well absolutely. all singing, all dancing. please tell us your cv what i like. oh well, telegraph john lewis and our guest. you were fantastic at the telegraph, i must say, extremely kind . they have extremely kind. they have recently announced a radical new plan to tackle crime, which involves victims of anti—social behaviour, choosing how offenders are punished. so if you were a victim of some kind of anti—social behaviour, presumably that means graffiti

on your private property. someone i don't know, knifing your tyre on a car or creating lots of noise outside your home late at night, you could actually choose whether the perpetrator has to perhaps pick up rubbish, remove that graffiti, decorate it, a community centre or whatnot. so this is all part of the labour's labour party's plans to prove to the that they are the electorate that they are tough on crime. is this the answer or is this just another idea that looks better on paper than does in practise? so i'm than it does in practise? so i'm going to go to you first on this. yes. what do you make of this? is a gimmick or is it got some legs? well, look, it seems appealing at first, but then you just scrape beneath the layers of it's not of it and you find that it's not the kind of labour's offer that you have revenge on criminals, you have revenge on criminals, you fantasies you know, your fantasies run wild. it's get sit wild. it's it's you get to sit on a community payback board and make that oversee and make sure that they oversee and you to do that your you are made to do that your community than community sentences rather than just and just picking a punishment. and then that's what they get they have to do. i think ultimately becomes of a mission for

becomes a part of a mission for labour in fact the labour to try. and in fact the new version of tough crime, new version of tough on crime, tough causes of crime. tough on the causes of crime. instead got the slogan to instead you've got the slogan to prevent protect, prevent punishment, protect, know. that lands. know. we'll see how that lands. but where it's really but i think where it's really interesting is because they're stepping of a crime stepping up this idea of a crime we crime day is where we we crime day this is where we talk anti—social behaviour talk about anti—social behaviour it's and appeal to the gb it's to try and appeal to the gb news it's try news viewers. it's to try and peel to the red wall, blue wall to so they get the core people worried about crime. absolutely. it's doorstep you it's the doorstep issue, you know, fundamentally, know, and fundamentally, they labour ask labour will want to probably ask given starmer given that keir starmer don't you used to former you know he used to be former head of the director of public prosecutions. he'd be lock up prosecutions. he'd be a lock up the hands and all that the wrong hands and all that stuff they try. and stuff and they want to try. and so you feel than you so do you feel safer than you were years ago? that's an were ten years ago? that's an issue they want ask voters. issue they want to ask voters. we'll that turns out. we'll see how that turns out. it's interesting because, it's quite interesting because, it's quite interesting because, i mean, i think this is a great tactic. i mean, i i'm very concerned. yesterday we were talking and talking about burglaries and thefts that have gone unresolved. happened unresolved. that's happened to me just me twice, three times. i just get number and it for get a number and that's it for insurance purposes. and then also , when it to these also, when it comes to these kind of community offences or

anti—social behaviour offences , anti—social behaviour offences, that's something that seems to just carry on without any any punishment delivered . what do punishment delivered. what do you make of this, do you think though onto a winner? well, i think people you know, i'm sure sarah will agree with me again. who knows? i might even get another view. i think most us another view. i think most of us have some experience of have had some experience of anti—social in most anti—social behaviour in most communities. all so, you know, to a degree or other blighted by whether it's littering or graffiti or mindless vandalism or , you know, those little or, you know, those little things that actually begin to destroy community spirit and civic life that the things that the police don't have the resources or the time or the inclination to deal with . but i inclination to deal with. but i and i think there are two points here. one is that i think it's good that labour is talking about it because it is recognised thing that it is another part of where people feel powerless , less helpless as feel powerless, less helpless as though you know the things that they used to expect to look

after them aren't working anymore. the other thing that i think would be really smart and clever is to look at the existing powers that councils have in terms of enforcement . so have in terms of enforcement. so many, many local authorities use enforcement officers for littering and drinking in places they shouldn't be drinking and think and think. putting a cigarette out on the fire, that sort of thing. know many of them are using it just to fine people. it's to a way to rake in money. they're not actually doing anything about stopping it other than, oh, i'll remember not to let the baby throw a sweet wrapper on the floor and they could fine whatever it is. so i think , you know, in so i think, you know, in essence, this is something worth talking about, because what happens is, although to be fair to the government, they have used sentencing a lot used community sentencing a lot more. they don't actually there is no particular clear way of making sure that it's done, that it's carried out and then it's carried out properly. i mean, thatis carried out properly. i mean, that is quite extraordinary. you would have thought that if a

punishment is dished out, someone would be monitoring whether well, have whether it. well, i would have assumed would be the assumed that it would be the police as you say, it would police or, as you say, it would the council. you know, and i think one of the things here is that you need do this that you need to do this quickly, and think you need to quickly, and i think you need to do it sensible, what you do it sensible, early. what you don't do is to try and don't want to do is to try and find perpetrators who've find the perpetrators who've sprayed whatever it sprayed graffiti or whatever it is you actually almost need to have of a summary justice have a sort of a summary justice thing because the time thing because by the time somebody to court, we somebody has gone to court, we all backlogs court all know the backlogs in court and you know, it needs and then the, you know, it needs people in a way to be facing their own communities in order to get that sense of, okay, so you write that kids playground now you need to rebuild it. this all relies, of course, on on the culprits being caught, does it not? could you give us a bit of balance? there's been a lot of sort of celebrating labour as this party of law and order. what were labour like when it came to law and order? because there are mixed reviews . i mean, there are mixed reviews. i mean, look at city cons, london knife crime roof. andy crime through the roof. andy burnham the police under his watch under special

watch were under special measures. i believe so. can labour does labour have credibility? i was thinking exact of that. just look at what they do when they have their hands on the levers of power, when they are responsible in this scrutinising what this case for scrutinising what the in london. and the police do in london. and there have what think it there you have what i think it was one year alone, you was just in one year alone, you had crime increasing in london five as fast than in the five times as fast than in the rest of england . at the same rest of england. at the same time, you got the amount to pay for them. wales, who seems to overcompensate. they're so overcompensate. they're being so authoritarian covid, authoritarian and during covid, as know and having it well, as we know and having it well, i think basically tried to think you basically tried to criminalise going work at criminalise going out to work at one the what was it one point, but the what was it they put warning around they put warning signs around essential items or non—essential items and shots actually. oh my god, that's a blast from the past anyway, you know. so i give you some of covid flashbacks for a second, but what i'm trying to say is this they're all over the place on crime labour. so place on crime labour. and so this is why they have to clear. that's try to double down that's why to try to double down so actually have an act so they actually have an act they could if you give them they could do if you give them control united

control to the entire united kingdom. so you can only kingdom. and so you can only imagine they do. and imagine what they would do. and that's why mr. reid clearly is trying show that is trying to show that there is some there is the some grit, but there is the credible ability i mean, credible ability there. i mean, the say that these the tories would say that these that is the policy one to that this is the policy one to jeremy you know, they jeremy corbyn. you know, they were against giving the were voting against giving the police funding and tougher sentences is sentences for you know, this is quite interesting actually within the labour party because obviously in power and jeremy corbyn the corbyn cost the labour party the last that's last election. so that's ridiculous. that's like saying what happened under what would have happened under liz would depend liz truss or what would depend since they've voting since corbyn they've been voting against measures that it's against the measures that it's always doing to try and always been doing to try and crackdown on protesters, crack down extinction rebellion and down on extinction rebellion and also behaviour. also on social behaviour. that's not is about. so these not what this is about. so these things all the things that are happening in villages and towns, you know, rural crime is something that i'm extremely well because i don't well aware of because i don't live an a and, you live in an a city. and, you know, problems facing know, the problems facing farmers people in rural farmers and people in rural communities of even getting the police to pick up the phone, never mind investigate , never never mind investigate, never mind, follow through when somebody says, i know where my vehicle is, i know where my

livestock is and you've got the evidence. so i think people have lost faith with the police and we've often talked about that on this programme . just to make the this programme. just to make the point on on london, i mean , point on on london, i mean, sadiq khan i think has dragged his heels quite a lot, but he had to fight very hard to get rid of cressida dick, who was overseeing the police in london. on, on and on whose watch we saw wayne cousins and the murder of saira khan is always the first to pass the buck. yes, he has. he chose a board that literally monitors the met police, but he did have to fight priti patel and fight pretty hard to get rid of cressida dick squeeze one quick extra point which is it's just interesting also that the tories, like, you know, when liz was to be prime minister was running to be prime minister and basically are and all that, they basically are campaigning toughen campaigning to try and toughen things up on crime. it's like things up on crime. so it's like they're never quite happy themselves. would themselves. so the tories would defend card defend the status card themselves. almost themselves. so there's almost a cross—party that cross—party consensus that things things things have to change. things have improve. and have to improve. yeah, and i think that's the think and i think that's the point i think it's where we

point and i think it's where we need to have proper conversations and it's about having that aren't having conversation that aren't always on my own. i always from the top on my own. i like this idea that in communities if you have communities that if you have members the local community members of the local community saying want saying actually, we don't want you go and paint that you to just go and paint that youth centre, we want you to clear the on this clear up the litter on this street surely surely street over 20. surely surely victims of crime shouldn't be able to decide . but this able to decide. but this perpetrators are what it feels a little bit. but this . but these little bit. but this. but these are not criminals. you are because you want essentially should you even be involved in the justice in what you do, what punishment would i set out? but i don't know. and i agree with that point, emily, but i don't think, know, we're think, you know, we're not talking crimes against the talking about crimes against the person. talking we're person. we're not talking we're talking about anti—social behaviour, affects all of behaviour, which affects all of us. so you suppose if you us. so if you suppose if you have like the local parish council or a local councillor sitting on this board, i don't think for one minute we're going back to the stocks in the village square. i think it's quite interesting though. i do think the point about the internal politics of the labour

party is interesting and it's something play out if something that will play out if labour power labour come into power because one things that's also one of the things that's also that really been an eye that hasn't really been an eye catching proposal, but the keir starmer and his his i can't remember the name of the shadow justice secretary. maybe not. so this. yes oh, steve rees . he this. yes oh, steve rees. he said that labour would not decriminalise drugs, for example . that is something that many left wing activists within the party would love to see . they'd party would love to see. they'd love see decriminalisation , love to see decriminalisation, legalisation and doctors as well. it's not just left wingers . no, no, no. but they are very vocal. . no, no, no. but they are very vocal . and keir starmer has, to vocal. and keir starmer has, to his done a good job of his credit, done a good job of silencing them or dampening them. but once labour, if they do into power , things might do get into power, things might change little bit. there might change a little bit. there might be quite a backlash against harder, sentencing and harder, tougher sentencing and whatnot. well, a bit like the conservative party that, you know, some people would like to think a one nation think was a one nation conservative party, but has actually held and actually been held to ransom and has held country to ransom has held the country to ransom squeeze. will that the squeeze. it will say that the conservatives gone too conservatives have gone too far in the wing. well, they've in the left wing. well, they've gone all right wing

gone in all too right wing because because successive because he because successive prime ministers have been so terrified of their brexit, europe . i don't think europe. i don't think necessarily you can you can't call brexit a right wing endeavour anyway. i would say that there's been huge amounts of involve movement of the government and basically every section of our lives completely in the economy, massive tax rises, massive regulation . it's rises, massive regulation. it's not really the free market economic self of liz truss or at least what she tried to do. it was just me and it was a national enterprise. 17.4 million votes for brexit as we know. and hey, it's done. we're getting on with. i must go to the viewers at home because we've had lots of emails about labour's plans for anti—social behaviour says what a joke behaviour and says what a joke it was. the blair labour government police government stripped the police of of their search and of a lot of their search and arrest powers because they unfairly targeted ethnic minorities. view. so unfairly targeted ethnic min(the3s. view. so unfairly targeted ethnic min(the criminals view. so unfairly targeted ethnic min(the criminals justn. so unfairly targeted ethnic min(the criminals just walk, now the criminals just walk, laughing the helpless laughing past the helpless police abuse police while hurling abuse at them . mike says it's amusing our them. mike says it's amusing our local force was rated local police force was rated as excellent how humberside

excellent at how humberside police literally our home was broken. broken into in september. my cars were broken into twice and again, my neighbour's into neighbour's shed broken into and bikes nothing of bikes stolen. nothing comes of it numbers, it but crime numbers, anti—social behaviour is rife. so yeah, labour's idea is brilliant isn't it? for million unsolved , please do keep your unsolved, please do keep your opinions coming and i've got lots more to read out after the break. i believe we are going to a break. but coming up, the new general secretary of the trade union congress, that's the tuc has warned of coordinated strikes unions in the strikes among the unions in the new year unless government new year unless the government steps resolve ongoing steps in to resolve ongoing pay disputes , should the government disputes, should the government cave in pressure ? should cave in to the pressure? should they their guns? that's they stick to their guns? that's coming up .

yes. welcome back to james and co with me, emily kava. now i'll reintroduce my panel. we've got

political commentator joe phillips with us who is a quite the fan favourite this evening. well, let's change the tone with your views , apparently, your views, apparently, according to some of our emails anyway . and former to anyway. and former adviser to liz truss and also formerly at the telegraph, of course, aissa bennetts, now you've been sending in your opinions thick and particularly on the and fast, particularly on the covid testing , whether we should covid testing, whether we should be bringing back mandatory for the chinese when they arrive in the chinese when they arrive in the uk . that's because covid the uk. that's because covid rates have gone up. they're gone up that country as we know. but also about labour's plans for antisocial behaviour. should you be able to decide what punishment the of a crime gets ? punishment the of a crime gets? oliver says victims could be threatened into choosing a less severe punishment . this creates severe punishment. this creates a system that allows for corruption. that's very true . corruption. that's very true. there are a lot of people out there who say, oh, don't punish them. they didn't mean well . them. they didn't mean well. they were hard done by as a child for whatever other reason there might be. they've been

victimised at school. it's not their fault that they perpetrated this crime. we'll just let them off with a slap on the wrist and absolutely no community service . that's a bit community service. that's a bit of risk , isn't it? joe will go of a risk, isn't it? joe will go a bit soft some people. i think the problem is that it takes such a long time to process it and by the time these things get to because they're low to court because they're low priority, you know, priority, i mean, you know, we're looking at a thousand days minimum a trial to come minimum for a rape trial to come to . so you imagine what to court. so you imagine what that feels if you're the victim orindeed that feels if you're the victim or indeed you're the accused. so something like this is going to take a very long time. and i think that's why say i think think that's why i say i think if going to do it, you if you're going to do it, you need to do it quickly and you need to do it quickly and you need to do it quickly and you need to say it's something that would not carry a criminal record. in other words, it record. so in other words, it certainly crown court certainly is not crown court level and it probably is not really mean really magistrates level. i mean , the risk of sounding , you know, the risk of sounding about it's a bit like in about 570, it's a bit like in the old days when the local bobby would actually take you back to your mum and dad and say, i call the good old days. well, i mean, the good old days

where people feared and respected police force they respected police force or they actually knew the people . actually knew the people. because the thing is that a lot of the crimes that are committed, that are, as i say, a blight on communities , are blight on communities, are committed by people within the communities . and that seems to communities. and that seems to me to be the central and the interest. although where i grew up it was definitely people coming from other areas within the borough who would come and, you know, target , target the you know, target, target the middle class areas because they had, i don't know, nice cars outside and it was an easy steal because, yes, the police never deau because, yes, the police never dealt with the crimes anyway . dealt with the crimes anyway. anyway, we're going to be moving on. i'll get your view on this first cos according to the evening standard, the new general the trade general secretary of the trade union warned or union congress has warned or threatened coordinated threatened that more coordinated strikes among ahead strikes among unions lie ahead in the new year unless the government steps in to settle pay government steps in to settle pay disputes. however the defence secretary, ben wallace spoke robustly earlier spoke quite robustly earlier today he said we're not today when he said we're not going back to seventies going back to the seventies where the trade union barons thought they the government

thought they run the government . unions say that they have a responsibility support striking workers, coordinated workers, which means coordinated action required . but what action is required. but what about the hard working british pubuc about the hard working british public eisa ? do you think we public eisa? do you think we seem to have come to a stalemate here? neither side are willing to budge . yeah it's basically to budge. yeah it's basically looking at a mexican standoff between you know , the between you know, the government, the unions and the public, sort of watching with all this. but under the surface, there are reports we see elsewhere about know maybe mick lynch going to install a deal lynch is going to install a deal on railways and with enough creative language and jiggery pokery. but what if fundamentally you take a step back when you listen to and watch all this and it's a test of authority. it's a test of wills. it's a game of bluff, as it were, because at some point, the runs dry for the public sympathy runs dry for these it's certainly these industries. it's certainly you can understand why you know, i can understand why they're because, they're going on strike because, of know, inflation of course, you know, inflation through the roof and amid covid and the fallout the war and all the fallout from the war in and so people will in ukraine. and so people will want try and push for a pay want to try and push for a pay rises, but then there is a limit

the government's made clear. but isn't moment isn't the problem at the moment that government is less that the government is less popular even the most popular than even the most militant of union barons militant of trade union barons and that nurses are fantastically so as fantastically popular and so as much as try and say, well, much as you try and say, well, we'll the public to we'll wait for the public to turn the nurses, then turn against the nurses, then that a really hard sell. they that is a really hard sell. they never going to do that, of course. really unless the nurses went on for weeks end. i went on strike for weeks end. i don't would don't think the mood would change have change now. joe, you have a close experience of these strikes? oh, yes . i think close experience of these strikes? oh, yes. i think you're referring to the fact that my son a paramedic. yes. but son is a paramedic. yes. but could also to the fact could also refer to the fact that many , many years i was that many, many years ago i was an correspondent and an industrial correspondent and ihave an industrial correspondent and i have written a book. why join a trade union? or whether go a trade union? or whether you go so a lot of very so i've got quite a lot of very old book now, i think, you old book now, but i think, you know, government has got it know, the government has got it wrong from the outset on this. they keep using the language of the 1970s. they're talking to, you know, three people who read the daily express, who remember the daily express, who remember the old days of read robbo and very at a time when we knew the names of trade union leaders more than we knew the names. i don't think parallels.

don't think there are parallels. no, don't i don't think you no, i don't i don't think you could coughlin, leader could put pat coughlin, leader of college nursing of the royal college of nursing , category union baron , in the category of union baron . do think you could put . nor do i think you could put make the category of make lynch in the category of definitely trying out for the role. but this idea that it's you know, it's them or us is ridiculous. these are nurses and health workers , postal workers , health workers, postal workers, train drivers , all of these train drivers, all of these people kept things going and all of these people have seen real ill drop in their income. and it's not just about pay. if you are working as a nurse or a paramedic, you are not able to do the job that you have gone into. not for the money, but because you care about because the health services broken. and i know that's a whole different conversation. you do a 12 hour shift. you can't get another bed in. you can't get another patient out. you can't get the patient out. you can't get the patient out. you can't get the patient out of the ambulance. you know perfectly well before the strikes , three people my son

the strikes, three people my son told me this the other day, three people in one area in one day, one shift died waiting for ambulances because they would know how striking. but because if you do that the situation because you it because they know it is good they're saying to people we are desperate. you've got to talk to us. but the problem is it's the same people who are out on the picket lines who are out on the picket lines who refuse to acknowledge that perhaps the nhs needs a massive change. don't change of direction. i don't think that's true i many, many true at all. i think many, many people the health service people within the health service who the service who work for the health service andindeed who work for the health service and indeed labour's shadow health wes streeting, health secretary wes streeting, they've all been talking about they've all been talking about the way we need to change things, you know, a better local thing. patricia hewitt, former health secretary who's doing a review for the government, is already moved it to be talking about getting rid of national targets them local. we know the health service is broken, but it has been like this for many ,

has been like this for many, many years. the government should at least give these people the respect of sitting down and talking to them. well, we can show one question. yeah, go for it. basically, just at a time when the private sector, you're seeing pay freezes , you're seeing pay freezes, redundancies all over the shop there. why it sounds like your solution is just to give everyone the public sector everyone in the public sector inflation. rise. inflation. no busting pay rise. no, it's not. but i do think the question certainly there is a huge question about pay review boards . and this is one of the boards. and this is one of the things that paul knew that was talking this morning, things that paul knew that was talking this morning , that talking about this morning, that there great secrecy . you there is great secrecy. you know, you and i might know who sits these review boards, sits on these pay review boards, but they're not open scrutiny but they're not open to scrutiny from well i think that the from any. well i think that the whole way that pay is decided should be ripped up and started again. i think there again. i don't think there should collective bargaining. should be collective bargaining. i should in i think it should be, like in private business, if you private business, that if you that on performance that you're paid on performance or your pay is locally decided rather than how do you and performance if you haven't seen as many patient hits, let's say,

as many patient hits, let's say, as you would like to? well, i mean, how do you judge anyone's performance in a job? you have certain kpis, you have certain target you have. is your manager knows how hard your work you have. knows how hard your work you have . i just think it's have. i just think it's ridiculous and very antiquated. don't think the way that pay don't you think the way that pay is bargained was decided? well, i'm just amazed that, you know , i'm just amazed that, you know, strikes literally serve to disrupt and as services with the withdrawal of labour. we know that first principles of what strikes are about. and so then suddenly this sort of surprise that the health services under a precedent and amounts of pressure winter because pressure this winter because you've where are you've had days where people are literally taxis that get themselves these hospitals themselves into these hospitals and there's backlogs in out now spiralling . this is what spiralling upwards. this is what we're saying you are not helping nhs by suddenly going on strike. you take that a conscious you take that as a conscious decision make things worse . decision to make things worse. yet what must say is i think yet what i must say is i think the government should. sorry, we're going have to move to we're going to have to move to the break, we'll come back the break, but we'll come back to after the break. think. to it after the break. i think. but i think that the but i do think that the government to with government needs to level with

the you know the public and say, you know what, are going through what, we are going through a really, really tough economic patch and people just simply aren't be able to get aren't going to be able to get the they believe they the pay that they believe they deserve and that arguably they the pay that they believe they derdeserved that arguably they the pay that they believe they derdeserve for|at arguably they the pay that they believe they derdeserve for the |rguably they the pay that they believe they derdeserve for the |rguatthatiey do deserve for the work that they do anyway. we're going to go of opinions. go to a couple of opinions. perhaps will get your get your perhaps i will get your get your opinion those. says opinion on those. wayne says anyone live on 24 anyone who can't live on 24 grand needs to be looking grand a year needs to be looking at lifestyle, on at their lifestyle, not going on strike, depends where strike, well, it depends where you live. well, it's funny, in some parts of the country that will absolutely nowhere will buy you absolutely nowhere to live all. other to live at all. but in other areas, could be able to areas, you could be able to budget in. okay life. budget and live in. okay life. michael says the union barons agenda purely political to agenda is purely political to create anarchy turmoil, to create anarchy and turmoil, to use the strikers cannon use the strikers as cannon fodder, bring down an elected fodder, to bring down an elected government destroy the government and destroy the democratic process. now, i think both be true. i think both things can be true. i think the union barons do have an agenda. would love to see the tories. they love socialist. well labour like mick lynch meekly excommunicate , and that meekly excommunicate, and that is fact . some of the leaders. is fact. some of the leaders. sharon graham leader. these are

people elected by the members of they'll come on in you can accept that people deserve a better pay for the job that they do and also acknowledge that the unions want coordinated strike action because one of their ambitions is to not have a conservative government. do you not, that it would be a grown up, mature and sensible thing to do for rishi sunak , who is not do for rishi sunak, who is not doing terrifically well in the polls, who is two years off from an election to sit down and look like a reasonable person and say, let's have a conversation . say, let's have a conversation. i think the problem is, is that if he does that, he will have to essentially boost pay across the board, which he would argue would cripple us even more in terms of the finances recession, emily, and said, look, we can't do it now, but i promise you we because don't forget government sets the envelope with when in within which the pay review board i think they just didn't want to be seen to be giving into this sort of strike. well russia they are on the wrong

field with terrorists or whatever they might choose anyway. going to have to anyway. we're going to have to go we're going to have to go to the break coming up is the the break is coming up is the bbc rewriting british story to promote agenda ? a group promote a woke agenda? a group of academics has accused the broadcaster pandering to broadcaster of pandering to politically motivated activists . is that true? and apparently even m&s isn't safe from mockery because professors are being pressured to explain how they are presenting a multicultural and decolonised view of the subject. we'll get stuck in to that just after the .

break all right. welcome back to dewbs & co so the bbc has been accused of rewriting british british history to promote a woke agenda . that's what a group of the country's leading academics has have warned . the authors of the have warned. the authors of the report titled can we trust the bbc with our history ? called on bbc with our history? called on the bbc to tighten its editorial

guidelines if that wasn't enough. we also have dozens of leading academics writing to the government to call for more on free speech at university ts where many professors fear it is too personally risky to challenge the decolonisation agenda. not in history. english or social sciences, but in maths. make this make sense, sir. so in short, a study by a bunch of small c conservative historians, they pointed out that the bbc it's trying to be all things to all people. so as all things to all people. so as a result, yes, it may occasionally commission excellent documentaries about how marvellous the queen is, you know, all sort of how fantastic thatcher and reagan were with charles presenting it. but charles moore presenting it. but it have a whole spate of it also have a whole spate of documentaries, the of documentaries, the sort of appealing to the more millennial crowd that decide when told about slavery to get very so self—flagellating about it, rather than saying yes that britain in britain did the way in abolishing slavery and all that. so gone back rights so they gone back to rights essentially sort of essentially on helping sort of very much push out sort of your woke career as all sorts

woke career as well as all sorts of contexts. i think a of of other contexts. i think a of people on the left dismiss this kind of story to sell. who cares? just a culture. cares? know it's just a culture. war nonsense. this report war is nonsense. but this report has actually detailed many examples. those that say examples. those that they say are leading to well, to getting the wrong essentially in order to appease, i guess, what some might call the woke mobile those concerned about identity politics more than facts. i think there are a couple of things here. one is that i think the bbc along with every other broadcast in the entire universe is always looking for different presenters. you know, we have moved a long way from the days of kenneth clarke and civilisation and in fact the gentleman who was talking to patrick earlier, who i think was a history professor, so , you a history professor, so, you know, okay, they use comedians in the same ways. they use michael portillo to talk about train journeys. they use a bulls to do you know, behind the scenes on on various other things. so you know broadcasters

are always looking for different presenters that they hope will connect the different connect with the different audience. but the real question is accuracy . and i think is about accuracy. and i think that is, you know, that's a perfectly valid comment, particularly over issues to do with the slave trade . well, with the slave trade. well, there's not acknowledging the role of churchill in a positive . someone's accused of that there of being a well against him at the bbc and you know i wouldn't be surprised if they've run documentaries on was churchill a racist . i run documentaries on was churchill a racist. i mean it's the choice of topic. is it not? well, in real life, the people i know, i think there is a certain group of people who will, as i was saying, slightly tongue in cheek, you know, they would like to it used to be, to see things how it used to be, you know, lots and lots of document about the queen, lots you know, lots and lots of do

under attack by one of their most cherished institutions , most cherished institutions, which course, the bbc. which was, of course, the bbc. so yeah, think the bbc is so yeah, i think the bbc is happier, worrying happier, you know, worrying about british history far more than the history of other countries in that sense , it very countries in that sense, it very much you know, maybe is a much is, you know, maybe is a british tradition, to send british tradition, tries to send itself in that itself up a bit more in that sense, but i think certainly it does speak to that truth of the history that endlessly history that it endlessly debated. is , the debated. but the thing is, the bbc like somewhat amplify bbc does like somewhat amplify the tendentious viewpoints. the more tendentious viewpoints. now, quickly, one word now, this very quickly, one word on mass , does it need to be on this mass, does it need to be decolonised essa ? well, i decolonised essa? well, i finally heard that not only is mass racist, it also getting the right is racist mass right answer is racist in mass and about feelings and that's about like feelings and that's about like feelings and experi so this and lived experi and so this will debate will run of will this debate will run of course i think we should listen to these academics. i mean, if they're to they're being challenged to decolonise don't decolonise maths, yeah, i don't even you'd start. even know where you'd start. that one stump speech. well, let me go upstairs at let me know if you if you understand what it means to decolonise mass must be racist. anyway, that's all we've got time for this evening. thank you so much for getting in touch throughout the we covered

throughout the show. we covered all from monetary tests all sorts from monetary tests on chinese tourists to this country to of course, the bbc, whether it's the british bashing corporation . and in some corporation. and in some people's view, apparently . thank people's view, apparently. thank you very much for tuning in. we, of course, had ace bennett and joe phillips with us this evening. very big thank evening. so very big thank you to them. going to be to them. now we're going to be going nigel farage, who is going to nigel farage, who is with us now, i believe oh, yes . with us now, i believe oh, yes. areas with you . thank you. good areas with you. thank you. good evening . i thought it was the evening. i thought it was the brussels broadcasting corporation, but perhaps i've got wrong. we're going to have in a couple of minutes time some exclusive polling to gb news. it'll tell you across the wider country and in scotland, too, how many people support nicolas sturgeon's new legislation ? and sturgeon's new legislation? and on gender identity today? and i think, well, i do hope nicholas sturgeon tunes in because the results are absolutely fascinating and we'll be asking you the audience at home, do you support the new gender laws

before all of that? let's have a look at the increasingly windy weather . hello there. look at the increasingly windy weather. hello there. i'm trying to with your weather update number. warning for heavy rain has been issued across the southern parts of scotland. a yellow warning for rain. northern ireland, central and southern areas of scotland and a warning and ice across warning for snow and ice across northern scotland. yes, the weather remains unsettled and cold in places, particularly in the north. one area of low pressure clearing towards the far north, another one approaching from west. and approaching from the west. and this area heavy rain this is an area of heavy rain which across northern which will track across northern ireland northern ireland clipping northern england towards england and pushing towards scotland at same time. rain scotland at the same time. rain will approach wales as well as the country as the winds the west country as the winds pick strength and the pick up some strength and the winds a feature of the winds will be a feature of the weather the part weather through the first part of friday. gales across of friday. severe gales across the channel, gales the north channel, gales across irish as irish sea coast as well as channel coast and a wet and windy to the day so that windy start to the day so that amber warning reflects the fact that issues that there's going to be issues on the with surface water on the roads with surface water high rainfall totals could actually see some flooding here . a of some really quite . so a risk of some really quite torrential rain for time. but

torrential rain for a time. but it clears quite quickly by lunchtime. places seeing lunchtime. most places seeing some away . shetland some drier skies away. shetland as well as orkney . although as well as orkney. although a legacy of showers will arrive across northern ireland and scotland through the afternoon. a blustery breeze here, few a blustery breeze here, a few showers in across the of showers running in across the of england overnight, some england now overnight, some clear skies yet again across more southern areas so icy across the far north of scotland with the risk snow above with the risk of snow above around 200 metres and then some sporadic bursts of rain come in from across many parts from the west across many parts as head into the early hours as we head into the early hours of new year's eve. so still unsettled for the day of 2022. rain comes and goes through the day on new year's eve. still a keen breeze coming in from the southwest. even so, scotland and northern ireland will remain cold and through the day the rain will intensify, falling across more southern areas . a across more southern areas. a blustery wherever you are , blustery day wherever you are, with showers follow across with showers to follow across more western hours. even more western hours. but even a little sunshine to end 2022 for northern ireland . temperatures northern ireland. temperatures then struggle north. then will struggle in the north. milder the south. and here's milder in the south. and here's your into beginning your outlook into the beginning of 2023. skies on monday

of 2023. dry skies on monday with even some sunshine .

tonight on average . we have an tonight on average. we have an exclusive poll telling us about the popularity of nicola sturgeon's new gender laws. when asked what's the point of the tory party if they're now a high tax party, i ask is the