well, hello there . it's 6:00 well, hello there. it's 6:00 michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co. the show where we get into the things that have got you talking. and guess what.7 it is a brand new year. how has that happened? 2023 life flies by, doesn't it ? so tonight i've by, doesn't it? so tonight i've got one thing on my mind and one

thing only. ladies and gentlemen . and i want you to get involved. let's face it. the uk has got quite a few problems right now, hasn't it? whether it's a broken nhs or whether it's a broken nhs or whether it's a broken nhs or whether it's a migrant crisis , we've got it's a migrant crisis, we've got the ongoing situation in ukraine. cost of living. people can't house and and on can't get a house and on and on and we go. so guess what and on we go. so guess what we're going to do tonight? we're going fix yes, we are. i going to fix it. yes, we are. i want your top five priorities. if you're sunak right if you're richard sunak right now, want to be, now, you want to be, quite frankly. you were him , frankly. but if you were him, what would you be focusing on? what you want to see from what do you want to see from this government, this year going forward? let's broaden out what it to just be about it doesn't have to just be about politics. us politics. what about us as a nation, as a people? what do you think be focusing on? think we should be focusing on? what do to the uk what could we do to make the uk its best ever in 2023? if anyone from government is watching listening, you can have our ideas for free. but first, before i get into all of that , before i get into all of that, dominic samuels will keep me company , as will kevin craig. company, as will kevin craig. but before all of that, let's bnng but before all of that, let's bring ourselves up to with bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headlines .

tonight's latest headlines. around and jones in the gb newsroom. the first channel, migrants of the new year arrived at dover harbour today . gb news at dover harbour today. gb news can reveal that dozens of mainly young men were picked out from a small boat around nine miles off the coast . it's understood there the coast. it's understood there were more than 40 people on board the inflatable boat. it comes as uk and french authorities start patrolling beaches together for the first time in a bid to stop migrants from making the treacherous crossing . three people have died crossing. three people have died at the scene of a fire that broke out at a hotel in perth. police scotland has confirmed ii police scotland has confirmed 11 people have been treated for minor injuries. emergency services were called to the new county hotel in county place at around five this morning. scottish fire and rescue says nine fire engines and 50, 60 firefighters were at the scene . firefighters were at the scene. health bosses are calling for

the government to declare a major incident within the nhs over mounting pressure on the service. the society for acute medicines called the current situation urgent . the government situation urgent. the government says it recognises the pressure faced by the nhs . but the royal faced by the nhs. but the royal college of emergency medicine claims as many as 500 people could be dying each week because of delays to critical care. lisa king told gb news her husband would have survived if he'd been treated in time. 500 people a week dying in night hospitals because they were denied it. the treat and appointments that they needed. what my husband died from is a vet was very treatable. he did not need to die . he should never have died . die. he should never have died. and for every one of those 500 a week that are dying , there is week that are dying, there is a family behind them. there is a husband, a wife , a partner, husband, a wife, a partner, a son or daughter. meanwhile, some

people are resorting to daily medicine when they can't see a gp face to face. a recent survey commissioned by the lib—dems shows that more than one in four adults hasn't been able to get an in—person appointment in the past 12 months. 16% of those who can't see a doctor have resorted to home remedies. all asking someone who isn't qualified to help them. the department for health and social care says it recognises the pressure gp's are under and is working to increase access for patients . actor access for patients. actor jeremy renner is being treated for a series s injuries after a snow ploughing accident. a publicist for the 51 year old says he's in a critical condition but considered stable. the details of the accident are unclear. the two time oscar nominee is best known for his performances in the hurt locker , the town, and for playing hawkeye in the marvel movies . hawkeye in the marvel movies. thousands of mourners are gathering to pay their respects

to brazilian football legend pele, who is lying in state at the grounds of his former club, santos . fans started gathering santos. fans started gathering for the public wake last night at the later stadium in sao paulo . the three time world cup paulo. the three time world cup winner died on thursday at the age of 82. he'd been undergoing treatment for colon cancer. tomorrow, they'll be a procession . and through the procession. and through the streets of santos , followed by a streets of santos, followed by a private family burial . prince private family burial. prince harry says he wants his father and brother back in an interview to be televised just days before his memoirs released. itv says the duke of sussex goes into own unprecedented depth and detail about his life, both in and outside the royal family. a preview clip shows the prince saying it never needed to be this way . and former tennis star this way. and former tennis star martina navratilova has been dying , posed with throat and dying, posed with throat and breast cancer. the former world number one previously underwent treatment for early stage breast cancer back in 2010. the 66 year

old says the new diag gnosis is a double whammy and serious, but still fixable . tv online under still fixable. tv online under 80 plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to dewbs& co . now it's back to dewbs& co. thanks for that. i've missed you guys. thanks for that. i've missed you guys . so i thanks for that. i've missed you guys. so i have. i'm glad to be back in this brand new year. happy new year to all of you. i've got a wonderful time, by the way, over the festive period, did you have a good christmas ? are you of those christmas? are you one of those grinches by the way, that. absolutely. hey, it's christmas. and there saying, absolutely. hey, it's christmas. and goodness there saying, absolutely. hey, it's christmas. and goodness the over. ring, absolutely. hey, it's christmas. and goodness the over. 11g, absolutely. hey, it's christmas. and goodness the over. i want thank goodness it's over. i want your tales, your festive tales, and to me in and you can get them to me in the way. i'm with you the usual way. i'm with you right until 7:00 this right through until 7:00 this evening, alongside ami, the writer broadcaster dominique writer and broadcaster dominique samuels. this evening on the former labour parliamentary candidate on the sea of plasma, kevin craig. i'll say good

evening to you. and i also say, by the way , dominique samuels is by the way, dominique samuels is next to me. can our viewers might have noticed she's not actually next an empty actually next with an empty chair because she chair next to me because she just a little bit held up in just got a little bit held up in traffic. so she will be here any moment now. that's and moment now. that's me and you there now. can go to there for now. we can go to work. new year, michelle. work. happy new year, michelle. yeah you, too. yeah happy new year to you, too. and you know the drill, don't you? on dewbs& co, it's not just about anomalies. oh, sorry. it's not just those two. soon not just about those two. soon to three for now. it's about to be three for now. it's about you home well. i want you at home as well. so i want everything that's on mind everything that's on your mind tonight. hear about tonight. i want to hear about your christmases well. i do your christmases as well. i do like hearing all these like hearing all of these festive stories. still got festive stories. we still got the in the background as the tree up in the background as well as yours. what we well as yours. that's what we want oh, my was want to know. oh, my mom was wonderful. i went home with all my family. it was all up north and lovely. there 19 and it was lovely. there was 19 of us this year. wow nine. so took a chapter in my role at home supervisor. yeah, i know. i'm going big, kevin. i'm going to be big, kevin. thanks. know that mum will thanks. i know that my mum will be if i try and be watching, so if i try and claim too much credit, if i say grandma, go, yeah, i handled grandma, i go, yeah, i handled the my mum

the whole thing. my mum well we haven't absolutely it haven't absolutely none of it and she'll writing in telling and she'll be writing in telling everyone i'm lying. but everyone that i'm lying. but yeah, i did a bit, i supervised and we're brothers air fryer things family as well so things in the family as well so we one those out i'm we tried one of those out i'm going like i know what going to nod like i know what that well, i didn't know that is. well, i didn't know what was, but one of the what it was, but one of the family members brought one along and they wonderful. i won't go too well, be too much into it. well, i'll be accidentally. people will think they're watching qvc with me. yeah, in the air yeah, pitching up in the air fryers. i think might fryers. but i think i might invest in one that was very handy very cheap to run. handy and very cheap to run. excellent. well, need that. excellent. well, we need that. yes do. transport's not yes yes, we do. transport's not working. know. working. it's not here. i know. i what can you do? we can't i know what can you do? we can't get stuff, can you? i'll get the stuff, can you? i'll tell you what we're doing tonight, way, everybody, tonight, by the way, everybody, we're things we're going to do things slightly tonight slightly different tonight because the start of a because it is the start of a brand new year. if you've looked around i've around you at any point. i've got to say, i tried to swear off the news as much as possible over the christmas period, but i couldn't see some of couldn't help but see some of it. a lot going wrong in it. there's a lot going wrong in this at the moment, this country at the moment, whether what would whether it's the what i would call crisis in the nhs. in call now a crisis in the nhs. in fact crises

fact actually there's crises everywhere. would everywhere. some people would say in the say there's crisis in the housing you've seen the housing market. you've seen the high streets today as well. haven't we? what situation haven't we? what the situation in name it. but in ukraine, you name it. but tonight going to be about tonight we're going to be about solutions. so we are. so i'm asking were in charge asking you if you were in charge of country, you wouldn't of this country, you wouldn't want just want to be. well, let's just imagine second you would imagine for a second you would be would you saying to be what would you be saying to richard sunak? what do you want to see as top priority for his to see as a top priority for his government for year? top government for this year? top five want so you have to five i want so you don't have to restrict just to politics. restrict them just to politics. you go broader. you can just go a bit broader. i will can make it about anything you want, quite frankly, but my question how do we 28, question is, how do we make 28, 23 the best ever for this country? is that even possible? so top five so i want your top five solutions. know how to solutions. you know how to get in touch with by now, don't you give views at gbnews.uk my give views at gbnews.uk is my email tweet me at gb email or you can tweet me at gb news. so if it's if that's more your thing, lots of you have already been getting contact. already been getting in contact. you bunch, have to you a sensible bunch, i have to say me your top five say you give me your top five tips in your app. salute drive. so let me read of them out. so let me read some of them out. i was saying, the way, i was saying, by the way, a couple seconds ago, i was couple of seconds ago, i was listening to gb news on friday.

i very long drive and i had a very long drive and i decided write into the decided to write into the presenter and he read my presenter and he didn't read my email i spent the whole email out and i spent the whole show a used. so i was thinking any second now and i was thinking any now he's thinking any second now he's going read put it in going to read it. i put it in capsules and everything make capsules and everything to make it out. i didn't get it it stand out. i didn't get it right out was got it ruined my end of my 2020 to my case, she says back, michelle. end of my 2020 to my case, she says people :k, michelle. end of my 2020 to my case, she says people need chelle. end of my 2020 to my case, she says people need to alle. end of my 2020 to my case, she says people need to regain point one people need to regain their sense of self—reliance and community. to government community. point to government needs to stop these illegal migrants . three she says, we migrants. three she says, we need fix the nhs for get need to fix the nhs for get policing right with zero tolerance for any violence or crime. that would be a fun thing, wouldn't it? and finally, she says , get back free speech. she says, get back free speech. and so all the work nurse and then she reckons if you can crack those five the economy in time will fix itself . david you time will fix itself. david you say at the top of my list, michelle should be making work pay - michelle should be making work pay . we should tackle the pay. we should tackle the parasite agencies, he says , parasite agencies, he says, tackle a low pay culture and the work from home pyjama classes .

work from home pyjama classes. you say then you can look at reducing taxes . taxes, not taxes reducing taxes. taxes, not taxes that you pay. no taxes that you get into. so i like your plan there, david that's quite good. nathan says we should focus on tidal power run by a company formed by the government for the uk public . formed by the government for the uk public. i've formed by the government for the uk public . i've got to say, the uk public. i've got to say, the nathan, you're quite optimistic that you trust the government. you're saying basically the government set this thing up. you think it operates smoothly. really? dominic samuels, give me . oh, yeah. well, if have so . . oh, yeah. well, if have so. sorry. don't worry. you should read what i'm saying about running out of time because it wasn't very nice. everybody anyway, you're here now. welcome i'm to start with you, i'm going to start with you, kevin you'll give me your top kevin. you'll give me your top five things, please. well depending. are we going to keep me straight to politics? who's joining more broadly? no. what we're going to do my little plan for the show tonight. you can give me a top five. and then throughout the course of the show, get will delve show, we'll get will delve into that we'll into the

that and we'll delve into the q is five your five oh fix it fund. well the i the fund. well the i think the answer the question the top answer to the question the top five one is ukraine. the second is it will be more is i think it will be more enjoyable year we're all enjoyable year if we're all a bit positive about what a bit more positive about what a fantastic country live in. fantastic country we live in. yeah. the third is to fix all the public sector , nhs the public sector, nhs transport, underfunding issues. the fourth is to have a bit more tolerance in how we speak to each other, to listen more and condemn less, even if you disagree with to . not well, no, disagree with to. not well, no, no. i think that's i think that's a bit more about being more positive about the country overall. and the fifth one is, i think we really do need to i think we really do need to i think an election and that would be very helpful for the country. an election right. so to recap, dominic his five kevin's five ukraine positivity energy tolerance and an election . tolerance and an election. what's your five election is quite interesting , actually. quite interesting, actually. well, we're going to get into all this is a show rumbles on my

number one thing would be to stop the disastrous insane march towards net zero especially in these economic circumstances . i these economic circumstances. i don't think it makes sense. i think it's making things more expensive for people intentionally. and some of the history around it needs to be addressed as well. secondly i think we should focus more on the people here at home instead of focus , instead of focusing on of focus, instead of focusing on fitting in with sort of the global elite, you know, you're cop26, 27, 28 or whatever. stop sending all our money abroad and actually invest some of it here. maybe then you wouldn't see pubuc maybe then you wouldn't see public sector workers begging for their work in conditions and better pay . third, think that better pay. third, i think that we should push for diploma . see we should push for diploma. see in ukraine, us all an article today saying that it will last beyond 2023. something i've been saying since the beginning. but we can't afford for this to go on perpetual . really. we just on perpetual. really. we just

can't . fourth, i've got my own can't. fourth, i've got my own three or four year on this is to before fourth. what was it, what was the first one that sarah you can tell us and you just. yeah, i wrote it down. i know sarah was your first one focussed more domestically diplomacy in ukraine. yeah. and the fourth one was to sort out the current assault on our southern border. a lot of people don't know that this is also going on in america as well. joe biden's in a lot of hot water because of what's going in. people still flooding in mexico and this will be in from mexico and this will be a controversial one. but as many medical experts coming out and saying now, including dr. c malhotra, who's regularly on here, i do think the covid 19 vaccines should be paused and investigated the least we should do is stop them being pushed onto younger and younger age groups, which is what is currently happening, will not be controversial because i happen to know that to my right you was on the vaccination. i don't know what you call it. group

committee volunteers thing. so we're going to get into that one as well. i'll tell you, my five and i got i got a bit greedy and i came up with six i'll after streams i'll stream down the list. in no list. so these are in no particular order . list. so these are in no particular order. migrant particular order. the migrant crossing i think you've got to try and get a handle on that. 46,000 people and by the way, that's just the ones we know of. by that's just the ones we know of. by the way. so if you ask me, i think it'll be much higher than that anyway. say you're going to get to grips with that. number two, i think this country needs an strategy and i'll an industrial strategy and i'll be in your thoughts be interested in your thoughts as well on policy. well done, michel. i'm michel. well, look at me. i'm dressed late as i am right? dressed as late as i am right? i think. yeah. if you're listening not watching, dressed not watching, i've come dressed as party accidentally as the labour party accidentally tonight. with tonight. but come up with an industrial for industrial strategy for this country. we think the country. where do we think the future business, etcetera, future of business, etcetera, should nhs? i personally should be? nhs? i personally think that we should declare a crisis now in the nhs, particularly emergency care. so i've got some ideas around that and then one that might make some roll your eyes. some of you roll your eyes. i think this whole kind of gender

agendais think this whole kind of gender agenda is something that we need to focus on and get to grips with. i saw what's happened in scotland while stopping off of was keeping a keen eye on that and just talking to some of the kids in my family over christmas. that was a shocked me to the coal. how many kids are at school and they know their classmates are saying that they're now a and was a girl they're now a boy and was a girl and this and that and the other. and i personally get very worried about where that is going lead to. so i know some going to lead to. so i know some of be at home saying, of you will be at home saying, oh, it's a very small oh, michelle, it's a very small percentage people, percentage of people, but actually this has got actually i think this has got the potential cause quite the potential to cause quite some actually for a lot of some harm actually for a lot of kids forward. it's not kids going forward. if it's not got grips with that's my got to grips with that's my five. had dominic's, five. you've had dominic's, you've kevin's. me just you've had kevin's. let me just bnng you've had kevin's. let me just bring the viewers bring some of the viewers in. i like it. you, michelle, if i was in charge of the country, says janette, i would do one thing only i would all of the only i would take all of the foreign budget, she says , to foreign aid budget, she says, to solve our problems here. solve all of our problems here. mm. interesting that's only one. someone else says, michelle, if you need five priorities that

means that you've got too many. you won't get anything done, he says. should have says. you should only have one priority, should be priority, and that should be immigration point one. annette, you say stop the state dependency culture, the benefits , increase the minimum wage and give preference to two parent families for social housing. you say you want to promote a single british culture rather than a multicultural society. i'm interested in what you mean by that radical reform of the nhs as in its range. i like this one. reintroduce discipline in schools, intellectual elitism and universities and apprenticeship in policing and nursing . and then you saying, is nursing. and then you saying, is there a policy policing ? i don't there a policy policing? i don't know. what does that mean ? zero know. what does that mean? zero policy era policy policing . i policy era policy policing. i don't know what that means. and you know what? i don't understand that. i would like to know yeah, i would like to know more. yeah, i would like to know more. yeah, i would like to know well. zero know more as well. zero tolerance, she means tolerance, maybe she means i don't know you. going to don't know you. you're going to tell you may not. you do tell me what you may not. you do not think dominic is right? actually, i think that's what that nick says

that means. yeah. yeah nick says cool. blimey, nick, don't cool. blimey, nick, you don't sound happy. you say sound a happy. happy. you say there's at all. listing there's no point at all. listing five things the country five things to get the country back feet. you say it's back on its feet. you say it's finished. it's in the water finished. it's dead in the water and capital. nick, you say and in capital. nick, you say there is no hope. really? you sound so sad. i, i mean, i can't really blame in the well, i think it started with starting the year. yes. and that's a voice in the air because where do you go from there, nick, if that's how we're going to start talk says hey look my five things want complete to brexit cease fund leave illegal immigrant claims for legal aid . immigrant claims for legal aid. the three you want to push ahead with a rwandan policy for you want to sack the home secretary and number five say stock absolutely refuse to give in to the unions interesting thoughts there. i'm going to be calibrating some of our thinking to get some more of your thoughts at home. so i want your five suggestions. keep them clean. i've seen some of the

response that go on twitter after this. some of them may eyes they not clean eyes water. they were not clean at yeah, keep them at all. but yeah, keep them clean and i'll get as many read out as i can. i want your five plans, you five policies. how are we going to sort this country out? going to take a quick break. when we come back, i'm picking a few of i'm going to be picking a few of them. going to get into them. we're going to get into them. we're going to get into them in some detail because headunes them in some detail because headlines are good, aren't they? but need little bit of but we need a little bit of substance go anywhere. and substance to go anywhere. and i'll

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, michelle dewberry. happy new year to you all. i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight and alongside me, we've got the writer and the broadcaster, dominique samuels, and the former labour party parliamentary candidate and the c c l you parliamentary candidate and the c c lyou call it what parliamentary candidate and the c c l you call it what you want ? the top business guru is the ceo of palomar. that's what we like to call you. kevin craig, welcome back, everybody. we're

fixing the uk tonight so we are over the next what we've got left now about minutes or so, left now about 40 minutes or so, 20, 23. what should the priorities be in this country? how we going to sort how are we going to sort out some the messes that is going some of the messes that is going on? stacey says we're going to reorganise the nhs union reform , free speech, reduce the welfare state, make work priority number one and take responsibility for your lives and stop being reliant on the government so there you go. let's have a look at some of your feedback on screen . shall your feedback on screen. shall we privatise nhs, nationalise the rail, stop migration , stop the rail, stop migration, stop welfare for those able to work and cook corporation tax, says jenny bryan says abolish the northern ireland protocol, restore northern ireland's place in the uk , abolish all former eu in the uk, abolish all former eu legislation and kick foreign trawlers out of the uk. 12 mile waters says brian. i hazard a guess there that you are a brexiteer, brian . and nicky says brexiteer, brian. and nicky says reform the nhs put michelle in

charge. she said she trust me, call me number two. so out the migrant crisis three reform the tax code for encourage people to have children , she says, and have children, she says, and head off that crisis for the future. five so our housing interesting stuff there. i'll tell you what guys a theme that's come through thick and fast tonight is nhs. that's come through thick and fast tonight is nhs . i would go fast tonight is nhs. i would go as far now saying it's in crises. the lib dems have got to say i agree with them. they're saying parliament should be recalled. we should basically declare a crisis and have an emergency plan. kevin craig this is literally the of is literally topping the list of a people's top fives. a lot of people's top fives. what do you make of it? well no wonder. i mean, i wanted to try and be positive about the year ahead. is the nhs ahead. but the fact is the nhs is in a bad way. i mean, it still does. amazing things, but it is suffering from , you know, it is suffering from, you know, it is suffering from, you know, it does go back to money and i know people say, oh, stop throwing money at the nhs . there throwing money at the nhs. there needs reform people needs to be reform and people like streeting like wes streeting streeting talk the success talk about that. but the success of the nhs over time is directly unked of the nhs over time is directly

linked to money put into it spending over time is spending on it over time is down, lists are up. yes, down, waiting lists are up. yes, we've had the pandemic and all that sort stuff . but i that sort of stuff. but i believe on data and people's experiences and you look today what's come out from the royal college of emergency medicine, i think nhs this current think the nhs under this current administration is in crisis and they have they have to bear the blame for some of that and you put your on. so it's more put your on. so it's just more money. more to do what money. more money to do what with not just more money, money and gdp a percentage and reform and gdp a percentage of our national spending on the nhs is over time not gone up in the way that it did under previous governments and also the government doesn't use targets as as did , targets as well as labour did, and a result of that you and as a result of that you don't get results. i know don't get the results. i know that not straight forward. that it's not straight forward. i'm saying for any i'm not saying it is for any government, but ultimately you look at the way this administration misspent administration is misspent money, it be done money, i think it could be done so better. so money is a so much better. so money is a key aspect of kevin's thoughts dominate. where do you stand on the whole nhs thing ? well, the whole nhs thing? well, really , when it comes to the really, when it comes to the argument of money, we do commit

more and more and more to money the nhs and it does seem to be needing more each and every single time. it's like a gaping black hole and i think that is because of the nature of what the nhs is. it's a public service and when you've got a rising population that's growing in size, but also growing in terms of age as well and the different sorts of things that are needed to be prioritised. for example, social care for older that are living older people that are living longer , it does need to adapt longer, it does need to adapt and i don't think it has. i don't necessarily think it's just an issue of how much money the nhs is getting. i think it's also an issue of where it's actually going. so for example and people might laugh at this and people might laugh at this and think this is really trivial, but know, spending trivial, but you know, spending tens thousands of pounds on tens of thousands of pounds on salaries for diversity managers, for , doesn't say to me for example, doesn't say to me the people that are working in the people that are working in the nhs that are on extremely high salaries are actually prioritising that money and

managing it as well as they could be managing it. i think that we prioritise the wrong things and as a result we have people working with the nhs that just don't want to be there and as a result the quality of it has gone completely down. i think there needs to be maybe perhaps more of a financial incentive terms the short incentive in terms of the short term. example , offering term. for example, offering private for people private insurance for people that afford to pay that can actually afford to pay for own health care , for their own health care, specifically wealthiest. specifically the wealthiest. i think that might go a long way. yeah, but the challenge is because a lot of people already do have private health care, but anyone private anyone that's got a private health policy will know health care policy will know that care is more that emergency care is more often not excluding it. so often than not excluding it. so if you have a car accident, whatever you need your ambulance as you go to a&e , that doesn't as you go to a&e, that doesn't get covered. and my worry is that one of the problems that we've got in the nhs at the moment is that kind of that that front facing a&e. yeah but one of the reasons kevin and no wonder everyone kind of just glosses over everyone will go, yeah, we have the pandemic and

it did it a well actually, no, we talk the nhs, the national health service , we reduced it health service, we reduced it into the national covid only service . and i think it was that service. and i think it was that which by the way was done apparently to protect the nhs, that didn't protect nhs, that's pushed the nhs . so within an pushed the nhs. so within an inch of its life people didn't go get help. you can't get into a gp for look lot money so people use a&e now like some glorified doctor surgery and that was responsible. okay well the ambition to strike a chord of harmony and unity, i'm afraid , is not going to last very long into this year, because both of you are. i forgot about that. yeah. so we did talk about that. we did our best. right. but i know that dominic, i hope i pronounce that character. by the way, forgive me, new year , brain way, forgive me, new year, brain fuzz and yourself. michelle you're attributing . you're not you're attributing. you're not agreeing with my point that it's about money. well, i hate to introduce data and facts into

nhs debates. okay. over time . nhs debates. okay. over time. okay. spending on the nhs as as not under this government gone up in the way that did under labour and money spend on the labour and money spend on the labour rose in real terms it's all boring data. it's not happened since i covid 19. okay we there was a pandemic people were dying. we didn't have vaccines which is why the situation is much different now. and at the time we had a national emergency with us. three one here, two over there have such vast different views on how this should have been handled. we could talk about that alone all night. i think we were late into declaring lockdowns. i think we've come through the i think our through in the end. i think our nhs did an amazing job. nhs workers did an amazing job. i minimise the reactions i don't minimise the reactions that some people have had to vaccines, but it was necessary. it was necessary to ultimately save.i it was necessary to ultimately save. i mean, looking at looking at what's actually happening in other countries, though, i don't think makes sense at all. think that makes sense at all. in regards to lockdowns. i think even even looking at china, for example, you know, their

population is what is it like , population is what is it like, 89% vaccinated. they had the masks , they had the lockdowns. masks, they had the lockdowns. and look what's happening there. theidea and look what's happening there. the idea behind this, 89% vaccinated it. you serious ? vaccinated it. you serious? yeah. if you look at a population of china. yeah. if you look at if you look online and look at the culture of china in itself run by the ccp , there in itself run by the ccp, there is no way. yeah, but people that wouldn't accept china is an absolute it's a basket case when it comes to covid. so let's see if we could do a whole episode. oh, i don't know. i don't think i don't think that's a valid criticism of it because we use china as a blueprint for implementing here. no. and here is you. so we don't poo poo china. well no. copied them. china. well no. copied them. china. come china. no come at you constantly. every looked at constantly. every i've looked at your feed you've been your twitter feed you've been banging you for such a banging on, you know, for such a long time that you you know, you think lockdowns were a total disaster? think know, disaster? i don't think i know, because when you actually look at studies, of the at case studies, all of the countries do countries collects. but what do you the idea i thought. no, the i know you don't know the idea

of i need to a doctor or an of i need to be a doctor or an expert to look at what's actually which is the actually and which is the lockdowns no impact on lockdowns have had no impact on saving lives in fact, saving people's lives in fact, chris whitty is admitted chris whitty is even admitted now that people are dying now that more people are dying than the of the than they were the height of the pandemic of the after pandemic because of the after effects lockdowns. is effects of lockdowns. but is factually people are factually why more people are dying in the nhs right now because lockdowns didn't work , because lockdowns didn't work, they don't work. and the idea i know you think they did when sweden didn't implement lockdowns have the lowest excess tally , one of the lowest excess tally, one of the lowest excess death tallies in the world. know that look? well, i can look at the evidence. i took the idea that lockdowns work. i can look at the evidence, medical at the evidence, the medical experts. just tired. the experts. and i'm just tired. the metaphor. i'm not any in metaphor. yeah, i'm not any in the medical i that covid 19 didn't . and i'm we hear it didn't exist. and i'm we hear it all the time. i never hear it made against it. but i didn't say that. and i've i've vaccinated people. i it i think

i've spoken to people about the legs amputated because the people like the vaccine, it should mean people like me. you talk to people, i guess is pushing it all down for you. that's not me. don't work in people's lives. what they say they ruined lives. no they ruined people's lives. no evidence that they have. i'm afraid . but there's empirical afraid. but there's empirical evidence they've maimed . evidence that they've maimed. people sunlight to people people say sunlight to people based something killing themselves acknowledged themselves would be acknowledged by people like this is by people like you. this is crazy. you. it's not crazy. people like you. it's not your you know, this is almost a conspiracy theory. your conspiracy theory. your conspiracy theory. your conspiracy theory. i worked in the hospital. people died on that. the hospital. people died on that . and the doctors thought that. and the doctors thought that. and the doctors thought that medical should be medical. i mean, it's like disabled by the misinformation nation, you know? yeah it's disgusting. and you should be ashamed of you should be ashamed. you should be shamed at this site. you will be shamed. you are a disgrace. now your view. you are a disgrace. if you , the rich people who put if you, the rich people who put their lives ruined by people like you, you should be ashamed

. that every . really. you say that every doctor nurse, every single doctor or nurse, every single person has been tortured by this 19 . i'm sorry that is 19. i'm sorry that is disgusting. you're right. 19. i'm sorry that is disgusting. you're right . you disgusting. you're right. you are a disgrace . and disgrace . are a disgrace. and disgrace. right? everybody i've missed this. haven't you? i'm going to take a quick break. i want to get these to some boxing gloves over brandy, one of the to the left, please . in the meantime, left, please. in the meantime, give me a top fives. left, please. in the meantime, give me a top fives . let's not give me a top fives. let's not make it about china . let's agree make it about china. let's agree to disagree on the lockdown. all the food, electronics , it meets the food, electronics, it meets a lockdown. again, that's all i'll say on that one. quick break. when i come back, let's go back to the agenda . top five go back to the agenda. top five points. how are we're to points. how are we're going to fix the let's remember, by fix the uk? let's remember, by the i think was the way, i talked to i think was number two of kevin's tolerance positivity we're to come positivity. we're going to come back and i'll see back on that very and i'll see you .

in three. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, michelle dewberry keeping you company until 7:00 tonight alongside me, the writer and broadcaster dominique samuels. the writer and broadcaster dominique samuels . alongside dominique samuels. alongside her, the former labour parliamentary candidate in the city lima. kevin craig, you city of lima. kevin craig, you having a little set too there before the break on lockdowns? i think it's safe to say that these two don't nurses really agree . lots of you guys getting agree. lots of you guys getting in touch about your priorities . in touch about your priorities. ihave in touch about your priorities. i have to say your five priorities policies , frack for priorities policies, frack for fracking, frack . i think you're fracking, frack. i think you're a fan of fracking . that poll in a fan of fracking. that poll in scotland, that one there, jane invest in our own country. michelle, lower the retirement age back to 60. get out of work people to apply and go and get a job. nhs says jim, secure the channel border. focus on inflation and growth and get glasgow rangers to buy decent players . comment

glasgow rangers to buy decent players. comment on glasgow rangers to buy decent players . comment on that glasgow rangers to buy decent players. comment on that one. i've got to say, i'll take your word for it. the mark says remove the unelected prime minister, stop funding ukraine, stop the migrants, turn them around and send them back. and he says, stop hs2. well, mark, you've up on a topic that has come up time and time again in my inbox tonight, which is the whole topic about ukraine. that is on a lot of people's top fives in terms of things we need to get a grip of on 2023, i'll openit to get a grip of on 2023, i'll open it up to the panel. i'm going to give you a warning, though, you pair, because i think you might disagree. so we do it nicely on the show. do it respectfully. let you talk respectfully. i let you talk over each other a minute, but we need to make it easy for everyone to so we'll have everyone to hear. so we'll have none that second part, none of that in a second part, you two, ukraine. dominic, what is on what said had so is just on what you said had so many one of them many messages. one of them saying my mom had a stroke after having the astrazeneca vaccine second she lost control of second dose, she lost control of her walking and bowels and now she's lost without she's dead. i'm lost without her. and permanently in depression. are the kinds depression. those are the kinds of people i speak on behalf of

the chronically by the chronically ignored by the government. band government. so before you band around terms like conspiracy theorist, think you should theorist, i think you should remember people that remember people like that who are currently grieving. and i also i'm going to have an answer to right through, if you to that right through, if you don't was you should don't mind was you should remember say to people remember when you say to people like kevin, okay, who gave like you, kevin, okay, who gave people okay i was people vaccines. okay i was proud to be part of st john's ambulance volunteer force who joined up with nhs staff in this pandemic. was proud to play pandemic. i was proud to play a part in saving lives, i said before started speaking before i started speaking earlier in no way did earlier that in no way did i mitigate in everything that i said afterwards . those who said afterwards. those who suffered reactions to vaccines . suffered reactions to vaccines. you didn't listen to that. okay, but what you did say was people like you in speech. marks yeah, which every nurse and which means every nurse and every doctor and every volunteer like you got. i disagree . you like you got. i disagree. you had your say what you and i do have to say. one of the things that i'm proud of and gb news is that i'm proud of and gb news is that we do give a voice actually to people that have had serious harms as a result of the vaccine, not suggesting that

everyone that's had it does have.i everyone that's had it does have. i mean, that's yeah, have. i mean, that's not yeah, that's okay. yes. that's that's not okay. yes. that's that's not okay. yes. that's that on this channel that we've done on this channel to a voice. to give those people a voice. right. create and dominate. right. you create and dominate. i know. yeah. on the topic of ukraine, i have been critical of it mostly because the conversation is conversation around ukraine is completely sided. all of a completely one sided. all of a sudden, you know, we're not allowed to talk about the history of ukraine as a country which may help us properly inform going forward what we do. i think our strategy of just throwing endless money at this regime pooh poohing what's the word i'm using today for some reason, diplo , missy and calling reason, diplo, missy and calling anyone new actually asked for some sort of diplomacy and an end to this madness. putin apologies , but i think that is a apologies, but i think that is a recipe for disaster. even saw an article in the telegraph today saying the uk shouldn't be saying that the uk shouldn't be tempted negotiate with putin tempted to negotiate with putin only in modern britain would asking for a negotiated action dunng asking for a negotiated action during a war be controversial. and i wonder if those same people would have thought opinion if it were british people having missiles rained

down on them in this country. and i think the answer would be no. kevin quick, i just want to check dominic, you don't go back to lockdown. no, i'm not. you do think russia did was wrong. think what russia did was wrong. right? do think that so right? do you think that so you've alluded to what you've sort of alluded to what you've sort of alluded to what you already said, that this sort of insinuation you to of insinuation that you have to be putin apologist to not be a putin apologist to not agree this is agree with how this war is currently of currently being handled. of course, invading course, i think that invading a country is bad, but the idea that putin just woke up one day and decided he wanted to create the soviet union 2.0 is just simply factually incorrect and historically inaccurate. all right . i'm historically inaccurate. all right. i'm yeah, i will come back. right. i'm yeah, i will come back . i'm not totally sure. right. i'm yeah, i will come back. i'm not totally sure. i'm not totally sure . i think you're not totally sure. i think you're almost justifying what he's done there. justify justified there. no justify justified justification to say that it's the narrative is that he'd like he woke up one day and decided to put loads of soldiers at ukraine's border and invade it because he wants the soviet union to be recreate it and not the nato and ukraine have been closer together and not the

america has been influencing ukraine over the years, which is what russia's had a problem with. that's just simply not correct in my view. so, yes, again , i think there's not again, i think there's not almost a single word you say that i almost a single word you say thati can almost a single word you say that i can agree with. i think russia invaded a sovereign country. the narrative on ukraine is the one articulated and by its president. it's democratically elected president . so now for those watching, did you just cough indicating disagreement? you just cough indicating disagreement ? president disagreement? president zelenskyy not connected. it's been long speculated before this will happened before zelenskyy turned into the second coming of christ that he does have some very dodgy financial links and also linked to his presidential campaign. so he wasn't democratically elected. i'm saying he wasn't, but i'm saying i'm saying i'm not saying he wasn't. i'm just saying this idea that zelenskyy should be listened to just because just because he's trying to do like heaven. well, what we're going

to do is and again, another point that was made just then, michel, nobody is saying no to diplomacy , okay? no one is. diplomacy, okay? no one is. there have been constant efforts. look at our ally efforts. you look at our ally and friend, the french president , constantly making , who's been constantly making efforts to talk well in russia. so it's a combination of maxim izing, military aid to ukraine and seeking, if possible , any and seeking, if possible, any possible way out. this country. britain is always seen negotiation as a way to end conflicts. you look at what's happenedin conflicts. you look at what's happened in africa, you look at northern ireland. it's not a stupid country see, we know that negotiation is needed, but there seem to be some around, not a million miles away from me this evening. who do have quite a pro—russia stance in this. and i disagree with that . what about disagree with that. what about what? so what is it that i said this is the progress that the of ukraine is not democratically elected. you inferred that one of the reasons that ukraine was invaded by russia is because nato in ukraine in speech mask got too close. well, that is

actually true. the there was a promise made after the cold war. the nato wouldn't expand eastward . and that promise been eastward. and that promise been broken just to please the idea that. broken just to please the idea that . ukraine should join nato . that. ukraine should join nato. that was something that the us promised russia after the fall of the soviet union wouldn't happen then the us flagrantly was suggesting that that would happen. was suggesting that that would happen . i think it was in 2021. happen. i think it was in 2021. joe biden met with putin to try and get those assurances and he wasn't giving them this whole idea that ukraine should also join the eu. russia has said time and time again that it views the as a threat to its national security. so you can see what you can agree with it or disagree with agree with it. so the idea well, the idea of russia to sell the idea that this is just come out of nowhere. and putin wants to create the soviet union is just factually incorrect. and the idea that we've actually tried to pursue diplomacy, think, is to pursue diplomacy, i think, is also for the birds. when zelenskyy himself has said is

the only way he'll negotiate is if russia cedes all of its territory , including crimea, territory, including crimea, which it acquired . yes, which it acquired. yes, illegally in our eyes, since 2014. it has to do that in order for them to have to have some sort of negotiation or settlement. that's not going to happen, which seems to me they are not looking for an actual solution. i think solution. where to you? i think i think my fellow guest i think that my fellow guest starts this evening. he's just incredibly when comes to the incredibly when it comes to the invasion ukraine, the killing invasion in ukraine, the killing of , civilians is of innocents, civilians is remarkable. much to blame remarkable. where much to blame as russia is talking over me? no, we're not. it is a remarkably pro—russia and i think it goes against what the democratically elected president of ukraine supported by, i think most people in this country. we've taken in well over 100,000 refugees. i find your stance impossible. yeah that's absolutely fine . we don't all absolutely fine. we don't all have to agree . we can have to agree. we can respectfully disagree. i want to know your thoughts at home. i can see my inbox and to say that you divided on this is an

understatement . but i want to understatement. but i want to know your views on it. i asked you about your top five things to try and fix fix things going forward to help the uk prosper, be better this year. what is on your mind tonight? what are your top five? what are you hearing tonight that you agree with? what are you hearing that you disagree with? phil says, michel, every time you wear red, your shirt you panelo waste fall out that next time i'm out of it. that next time i'm going to come dressed in going to come in dressed in black, i'll do that tomorrow instead, i think. give me your vaiews@gbnews.uk email vaiews@gbnews.uk is my email address me up. michel address can tweet me up. michel tube news don't go tube so at gb news don't go anywhere have your thoughts anywhere i'll have your thoughts in couple minute.

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news . channel hello . welcome news. channel hello. welcome back to dewbs & co. with me, back to dewbs& co. with me, michelle dewberry, right through till 7:00 tonight, alongside the writer and broadcaster dominique samuels and the former labour parliamentary candidate and ceo of paloma , kevin craig. welcome of paloma, kevin craig. welcome back , guys. i've been asking you back, guys. i've been asking you for your top five things that you want see happen in this you want to see happen in this country, says, michelle won country, jane says, michelle won get brexit done , so include get brexit done, so include northern ireland and fishing to change law to deal with the change the law to deal with the migrant crisis. change the law to deal with the migrant crisis . three stop net migrant crisis. three stop net zero agenda get fracking and mining and for start clamping down on all the work agendas and all the areas. and number five use the foreign aid budget in this country and then only for real emergency aid abroad where needed. real emergency aid abroad where needed . an email, i've got to needed. an email, i've got to say i found quite interesting was just coming from klaus. and i think you make a really important and interesting point

if you've just tuned in, you might not know what i'm referring to, but to say there's been spicy disagreement between the two panellists is a little bit an and klaus as emailed bit of an and klaus as emailed and said michel what's going on with your two panellist tonight represent what's going on right up and down the country you say that this country is torn and divided. and in klaus's words , divided. and in klaus's words, we'll never, ever agree . which we'll never, ever agree. which leads me to some of the points on your five. we're talking about tolerance , positivity. you about tolerance, positivity. you said about general election . do said about general election. do you think because this is a divided country and people have lost tolerance and respect or whatever for other people's opinions, do you think it's gone too far ? can we pull back from too far? can we pull back from that? how do we unite again ? if that? how do we unite again? if you asked me that 10 minutes ago, just 30 minutes ago, i had ago, just 30 minutes ago, i had a different answer. i mean, i think that sometimes i get worried that . the extremes of worried that. the extremes of opinion exist are just so you

know, my personal view is just so demoralising . i think the so demoralising. i think the effort that we have to make is to remember there is a lot to be really positive about in this country , and it's just it's country, and it's just it's going to require closing, my good self, just constant effort. i think . i think what's i think. i think what's demoralising is when people add the, you know, reiterate and repeat the mainstream establishment narrative to those that disagree with them is misinformation. and that's actually what's creating the extremes. you probably don't realise it, but when you've got the likes of twitter and the likes of facebook censoring information on behalf of the white house to do with to covid do with vaccines, to do with lockdown, and also do with ukraine, create people ukraine, you do create people that and are on the that are extreme and are on the defence. and i would agree, i think this conversation is a reflection of that and i think probably the issue is maybe me included, but than you . included, but less so than you. there are echo chambers that exist so when you are confronted with like your head

with opinions like your head just seems to explode because you're probably surrounded by people that agree with you on the on sky, the newspaper the bbc, on sky, the newspaper that you read and you forget that you read and you forget that there are a sizeable amount of people out there that actually do think like me respectfully , i think you both, respectfully, i think you both, for starters . other. yeah, for starters. other. yeah, you're saying it's him . and i you're saying it's him. and i actually think i can see both sides of the opinions. and i would say there was mutual mutual kind of intolerance . so mutual kind of intolerance. so do the people's opinions, which is why i found what klaus is saying is quite interesting, because this country has been divided for a very long time some might say it started or it certainly accelerated on things like brexit and, that whole kind of divisive opinion, where people were simply not able or willing to tolerate the alternate view. but if you look statistic like some people went to one side, maine is right. okay, what do you want ? so okay, what do you want? so you've i think your interests

are dominic by fuelling controversy and fuelling this theory and i'll let you finish that people like me and speech marks you don't know a coach chambers bbc whatever to the contrary okay my life is full of conservative brexit voters . it's conservative brexit voters. it's much bigger than that. but i will not apologise when confronted on shows like this with opinions that i think have to be called out . you think that to be called out. you think that the liberal left the cappuccino sipping islington mafia, whoever that i'm trying to pick the right. what you just said. go back an inaccurate. and the other day you did a tweet jargon and net zero right your whole worldview you you want to fuel this conspiracy theory . i worldview you you want to fuel this conspiracy theory. i think it probably is not right. it probably. i'm going to interrupt you now. you using you now. you start using conspiracy theory class people . conspiracy theory class people. i think so. i think i think this country is not as broken or as

badly divided as some might say. but think there is a duty if one is in a place like this and you hear things that you know that have to be disagreed with or or challenged, then that's okay . challenged, then that's okay. but the country is in better shape sometimes than i think we want to end this. this is the thing. even using the term conspiracy theory really does expose those. the sort of place that you're coming from because many things have been called conspiracy theories that then actually end up to be true or more likely to be the truth. for example , the wuhan lab leak example, the wuhan lab leak theory , which was censored by theory, which was censored by social media platforms at the start of covid, labelled a conspiracy theory. the hunter biden laptop situation that would have actually in maybe a court of some people calling out joe biden. was it? it was it was slapped down as a conspiracy theory straight away . and then theory straight away. and then after the fact, numerous medical experts and scientists and also

evidence has come out to suggest that that might be the case more solidly. the fact the joe biden's white house were actually trying to get social media platforms to censor , but media platforms to censor, but didn't sort of reflect their world view by banning certain people during covid. those are all facts . they're not all facts. they're not conspiracy theories that look at the twitter post there are things that you clearly haven't seen a lot of, and this is what's annoying you're saying. you're saying things that are facts like the five story when they're not facts. and the idea and the idea . they're not facts. and the idea and the idea. but they're not facts. and the idea and the idea . but i'm they're not facts. and the idea and the idea. but i'm just doing this for controversy. if you look at some statistics of some polling that's been done, it's remainers. the more likely to have an intolerant view of brexit is, and it's actually the vaccinated that are more likely to have an intolerant view of the unvaccinated than other the unvaccinated than the other way around. a direction way around. there is a direction this is coming from and it's yours. i'm afraid it's at home because of the things because one of the things that i do find quite interesting, and i've show plus i've done this show a year plus now, so see lots of different now, so i see lots of different

opinions the opinions coming in on the mailbox every day. and i do find it quite interesting because i think people get called names we've lost our ability to say, i disagree with you, i disagree with you . instead, what we will with you. instead, what we will do is people will say, can, can you're a racist because you're a brexiteer or you're a councillor currency theorist because you agree with this or you're stupid because of that . and to me, that because of that. and to me, that is one of the issues in society that we need to i don't know how we do it, by the way. i'm not going to fix this in the last 6 minutes of this programme, but i want your thoughts. erm do you think it's gone a little bit too far. do you think that we can try and kind of pull it back a little bit. i'm not sure. you know looking at this inbox, the inboxes as divided as what you two are and either he's loving it, he says, please, can we have these two on every single day? i don't think my blood pressure , don't think my blood pressure, my mind won't take it. i don't know about dominic on either side. i think that mine can cope

. it says, michelle, can you give an example how this give an example of how this country is not broken and is in good shape? please comply . me good shape? please comply. me kevin lord, you've given me a case . are you giving me case. are you giving me a challenge at the end of the show? you what i'd show? well, you know what i'd say that spirit? spirit? say to that spirit? spirit? i think 2022 incredibly think the 2022 was incredibly difficult for a lot of people . i difficult for a lot of people. i think that 2023 has an awful lot of challenges, but i always use this analogy a—plus r equals a, you know what that stands for? a—plus are equals a, it can never be the events that go on around you. without that, give your outcome. it can only ever be your reaction to those events that does true and you're in control and we're all in control of reactions. that's what i would say to that , sir. there would say to that, sir. there you go. that's depending on your thought process. i remember the chap at the start of the show who emailed in and told me that he thinks the whole thing is terrible. do you feel any better after? tonight's ding dong. i love come on to dewbs& co. love you. come on to dewbs& co. and you're looking and

and you're looking at that and you're let me ask you're thinking. no, let me ask you're thinking. no, let me ask you as before i leave you this as well before i leave you. was a poll out you. there was a poll out looking ahead to this evening's weather and the uk is looking mostly settled. with mostly dry and settled. but with a in the far a few showers in the far northwest here details northwest. here are the details . it will be a fine start to the evening. across the south—west of england , wind will be light of england, wind will be light and skies will be mostly and the skies will be mostly clear, temperatures to clear, allowing temperatures to dip quickly. the dip fairly quickly. the south—east of england will experience similar with generally weather , no more generally dry weather, no more than a gentle breeze and plenty of clear periods . the odd patch of clear periods. the odd patch of clear periods. the odd patch of cloud is possible near to the south coast of wales , but it south coast of wales, but it will a dry early evening will be a dry early evening elsewhere with clear periods , a elsewhere with clear periods, a ridge of high pressure will be toppling across the midlands from the west, helping to give light winds and a quiet early evening it be turning evening. it will be turning chilly, though , under long chilly, though, under the long cloud breaks . chilly, too, for cloud breaks. chilly, too, for the north—east of england, where skies will generally be clear. a bit is likely bit more breeze is likely the furthest south, but temperatures will . fall away one will still begin. fall away one or two areas of low cloud will drift across southern scotland

from the west, but it will stay dry with some clear spells. northern and western scotland might catch a shower. the breeze will gradually start to pick up across northern ireland heading into the evening, across northern ireland heading into the evening , although at into the evening, although at this point it will be dry and there will be some clear breaks . turn frosty this . it will turn frosty this especially in the east. however wet and windy conditions will reach many areas from the west later and that is how the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning .

good evening. first show of the year excess deaths are running at 1000 a week. what is it? is it the failures at a&e? is it the vaccine ? what's going on?

the vaccine? what's going on? we'll have a look at the numbers tonight. nine out of ten civil servants working for the welsh office are still working from home. what does that mean for the taxpayer ? and joining me, the taxpayer? and joining me, i'm talking pints alex reid, he's been an actor. he's been a martial arts fighter. he was married to katie price . he won married to katie price. he won celebrity big brother. there's an awful talk about. but an awful lot to talk about. but before all of that let's get ben is with round and . james thank is with round and. james thank you nigel your top stories from the gb newsroom. the first channel migrants of the new year arrived at dover harbour today . arrived at dover harbour today. gb news can reveal the dozens of mainly young men were picked out from a small boat around nine miles off the kent coast . it's miles off the kent coast. it's understood there were more than 40 people on board. it comes as and french authorities start patrolling beaches together for the very first time in a bid to stop migrants from making the crossing . three people have died