a happy new year, wonderful people and welcome along to monday's sparkling edition of the mark steyn and show we have a stellar line—up of stories and guests for you today , so you guests for you today, so you will want miss a single will not want to miss a single second. we have another rotherham grooming gang scandal ex collusive for this ex collusive for you this evening when this anywhere else gb can reveal another gb news can reveal another councillor from the former cabinet is stifle progressive has been given a senior at diversity and inclusion row within the nhs . you could have within the nhs. you could have made this up. we'll be digging into this with our very own peters, who has the story the uk is now seeing 800 more people

dying each week for conditions that should have been diagnosed dunng that should have been diagnosed during the advice logged houses, access deaths, people . we will access deaths, people. we will speak with former owners , speak with former owners, statistician jamie jenkins who argued a year ago , a year ago to argued a year ago, a year ago to the day pretty said covid advises getting their honours was a premature decision. we'll chat to him later on. plus a third of families identify find childcare costs is one of their most expensive outgoings . but most expensive outgoings. but today it's been reported that rishi sunak's plans to shelve helpful childcare reforms, helpful childcare reform s, propose helpful childcare reforms, propose by his predecessor, liz truss. we'll get into this with the deputy director of onward out of hawkes bay. the proposed is to fix the uk's broken childcare system. now hear out. this is a bit dramatic , but is this is a bit dramatic, but is the end of polishing shoes the total end of civilisation .7 top total end of civilisation? top shoe polish brand kiwi announced they will stop selling shoe poushin they will stop selling shoe polish in the uk due to a lack of demand. it's declined people. we are declining anyway. i'll be

chatting to jason robertson , chatting to jason robertson, shiny shoe connoisseur and director of think tank orthodox conservatives . very jolly stuff, conservatives. very jolly stuff, i know, but we'll always you the stories that matter most and crucially you get crucially you will not get elsewhere. and of course the most of the show most important part of the show where to give me a ride where you get to give me a ride , good pummelling our gb , good pummelling gives our gb news don't uk you can ask me anything just put pummelled patrick in your subject line thatis patrick in your subject line that is all coming your way. but first it's headlines with first it's the headlines with the wonderful rihanna injects . the wonderful rihanna injects. patrick, thank you. your top story from the gb newsroom, the first channel migrants of the year arrived at dover harbour today. gb news can reveal that dozens young men were picked up from a small boat around nine miles off the kent coast. it's understood there were more than 40 people on board. it comes as you french authorities start patrolling together for the first time in a bid to stop migrants from making the crossing . three people have died

crossing. three people have died after a fire broke out at a hotel in perth . police scotland hotel in perth. police scotland has confirmed ii hotel in perth. police scotland has confirmed 11 others were treated for minor injuries. emergency services were called to the new county hotel in county place at around five this morning. the cause of the fire is still unknown . health are is still unknown. health are calling for the government to declare major incident within nhs over mounting pressure on the service. the royal college of emergency medicine . as many of emergency medicine. as many as 500 people could be dying each week because of delays to critical. the government says it recognise this is the pressure faced by the nhs. lisa king told gb news her husband would have survived if he'd been treated in time . 500 people a week dying in time. 500 people a week dying in nature hospitals because they were denied the treatment and appointments that they needed. what my husband died from is a vet was very treatable. he did

not need to die . he should never not need to die. he should never have died . and for every one of have died. and for every one of those 500 a week that are dying, there is a family behind them . there is a family behind them. there is a husband, a wife a partner, a son or daughter. thousands of rail passengers face yet more travel disruption this week. members of the rmt and train operators will stage 248 hour walkouts from tuesday and friday. drivers aslef will strike on thursday . more than strike on thursday. more than 100 national highway workers in england will also stage a 48 hour strike from tomorrow . and hour strike from tomorrow. and thousands of mourners are paying their respects to pele at the grounds of his former club, santo . the brazilian football santo. the brazilian football legend died last thursday. he undergoing treatment for colon cancer. undergoing treatment for colon cancer . the three time world cup cancer. the three time world cup winner was 82. the procession will continue through the streets of his hometown tomorrow, followed by a private family burial tv online under be

plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to mark steyn with . patrick does anyone just not understand cancel at all? j.k. rowling can be cancelled for saying that women are adults, human females. the cast of , harry potter. you the cast of, harry potter. you know, those jumped up millions as you couldn't act to save their but became their lives but became multimillionaires off the back of magnificent of rowling's magnificent creative they even creative mind. they don't even want to know. daniel radcliffe, especially. he'd be stocking shelves in if it wasn't for shelves in lidl if it wasn't for rowling. lady susan hosking national treasure a lifetime of dedicated service to our royal. she asks a woman of many different names who is clearly confused her own identity. where she was from the confused charity magnet , who, by the way, charity magnet, who, by the way, may well have the charity commission on case . marlene

commission on our case. marlene hadley then got lady susan council . in fact she even forced council. in fact she even forced a grovelling apology. people who said they had concerns about the covid vaccine and dared to suggest the coronavirus originated in a lab borrowed free in china. despite the father . some evidence free in china. despite the father. some evidence appears to suggest that. that's at least a possibility. well, they were cancelled by news outlets. they had freedoms restricted . people had freedoms restricted. people have cancelled by their have been cancelled by their friends for supporting brexit or for not to live near a migrant hotel . people have been hotel. people have been cancelled for thinking that. black matter is black lives matter is an inherently organisation inherently marxist organisation and the knee is and that taking the knee is nothing more than ridiculous virtue. people who allegedly virtue. but people who allegedly tried to stifle an investigation into grooming gangs that systematically rape and abuse vulnerable young white girls, they don't get . they can get they don't get. they can get jobs. they don't get. they can get jobs . and our public service , jobs. and our public service, presumably at the taxpayers expense as well. by the way, this might sound unbelievable. but it isn't. gb news is very charlie peters, who's been conducting a deep investigation into grooming gangs across the

country, found that a former labour party politician who resigned cabinet position at rotherham council 2015 amid reports they shut down discussions on the ethnicity of grooming gangs, now works as a senior diversity and inclusion manager in a major nhs body that's been revealed. you couldn't this stuff up, could you? maruf hussain was embroiled in the rotherham grooming gang scandal in 2015 when dame louise casey's review into the council named him as it described the authority as being in denial and walked by a culture of bullying , sexism and cover ups . , sexism and cover ups. apparently he's now working as they. you've got to love this by the. national diversity inclusion manager for health education england said lady susan has a as a woman in traditional dress where she's from cancelled man reportedly stifles investec action into 4800 young girls being sexually exploited. british pakistanis in rotherham he gets a job in diversity inclusion in the nhs.

in fact the people who actually carried out the rapes and abuse, they weren't council very quickly either, were they? some would argue they still haven't beenin would argue they still haven't been in rochdale at all. khan and corey abdul rauf were members of that rochdale grooming gang. khan got a girl, 13, pregnant , grooming gang. khan got a girl, 13, pregnant, but denied he was the father that met another girl, 15, and trafficked her to others using violence when , she others using violence when, she complained. still told the complained. he still told the they hadn't committed that big of a crime. pair were of a crime. the pair were convicted in 2012 and it was october 2022 when they finally lost their appeal to deportation. if and only if they don't cancel from britain until recently. ralph was even counsel from his own town . he was from his own town. he was actually pictured shopping in a shopin actually pictured shopping in a shop in the town where. he abused children, which means they could bumped into him at they could bumped into him at the shops . there are calls for the shops. there are calls for j.k. rowling to be burned alive for , thinking that women are for, thinking that women are aduu for, thinking that women are adult human females. there are calls for people to lose jobs, never work again, become social pariahs, are asking someone where they come from for their

views on immigration, brexit and covid. but if you happen to be someone who is trying to stifle an investor into a british, pakistani child rape gang , you pakistani child rape gang, you can get a job in the sector. the world's mat. hey hey. with me right now is gb news is very own documentary filmmaker with an exclusive for us, charlie peters it away. what's going on? well, it's an extraordinary story. i mean, i probably stole your show a month ago that i'll be coming after. people in rotherham borough it's served borough council, it's served dunng borough council, it's served during of this during the period of this atrocity and well, we've got the first scalp with dominic bell, who's to stand down labour's who's to stand down as labour's parliamentary rother valley parliamentary for rother valley . and now we have another in our sights here maarouf hossain . sights here in maarouf hossain. so mr. hossain was in the council from the early noughties. indeed was the noughties. indeed he was the cabinet for community cabinet member for community cohesion from 2005. now he was brought into the cabinet again in september 2014 when the alexis report revealed the

extent of the suffering. she found 1400 girls as a conservative estimate have been abused in town. the national crime agency has since revised that up to 1510 now while he was serving in the cabinet from that penod serving in the cabinet from that period off the report had to resign in disgrace . february resign in disgrace. february 2015, along with the leader paul leighton and the rest of the cabinet when louise casey found that the council was in denial. now lots of people were to anonymously in this by then louise but with mr. hussain and indeed another councillor called jahangir akhtar , she went so far jahangir akhtar, she went so far as to actually name them due to the seriousness of the allegation against them. now akhtar and hussain were both described as senior pakistani of the council who would influence decision and what influenced the actions . the council is it actions. the council he is it was found in the report to have been stifling discussion into the rapists. so some would call that a cover up. well, i mean, those words i would certainly use. in fact, he pushed back against a police officer who

wanted investigate the link wanted to investigate the link between the grooming gangs and taxi drivers. mr. akhtar , his taxi drivers. mr. akhtar, his friend and colleague jahangir, he was in fact he was a taxi driver before he became a labour councillor. so there was clearly an issue where people who wanted to into the scandal were to look into the scandal were told write and what told not to write and what happened then was this stuff was all freely out there in the pubuc all freely out there in the public domain and one would assume charlie , that if you and assume charlie, that if you and i had done something along those lines, we'd be well, maybe, i don't know, prison , but i dare don't know, prison, but i dare say not working again. well, the particular trump doing now, well, extraordinarily cried. racism, first and foremost, he accused a fellow labour councillor, unnamed at this moment of being racist when he tried to raise the issue of the ethnicity of the perpetrators in that just by saying yes, they happened to be just stunning precisely by raising a pattern which was observed by many people in the town and indeed lots of the victims and survivors or the figures in data, indeed , truth showed data, and indeed, truth showed it in both of reports. but

it in both of the reports. but mr. hussain allegedly made this accusation . the labour party accusation. the labour party today refused to confirm to gb news the outcome of the investigation after he was accused of making this false accusation of the labour accusation of racism. the labour party also failed to confirm that he was still a member of the labour party. he might still leave the labour party extraordinarily, we do extraordinarily, but what we do know he works, the know is that he works, for the nhs in diversity and inclusion and role for and participation role for a body which is called health england, which aims to inspire and educate and train the next generation of people working in medicine in britain. so here is a man who from rotherham who lived in the town 30 years, told me priority as this was their view. they thought that he so—called community cohesion over justice for rapists is now the national lead for diversity and inclusion at a major nhs . i and inclusion at a major nhs. i think it's scandalous. well, he's certainly sounds like a scandal, charlie and. i'm just going to want a little bit more feel to this particular fire because in that role, one would imagine that it's the taxpayer

paying imagine that it's the taxpayer paying wages. that's what is paying his wages. that's what is it's a it's a public it's a it's a it's a public body. it's a non—departmental pubuc body. it's a non—departmental public body, which is a form of essentially a quango within the government whereby get lots government whereby you get lots of sector cash and you're of public sector cash and you're augned of public sector cash and you're aligned department, aligned with the department, but you're it. you're not really within it. it's strange and murky it's all very strange and murky . also we've contacted . and they also we've contacted them is them for comment, that is health, education. england today that back me in that did not get back to me in time to be involved in this coverage tonight. no, we have contacted all relevant contacted all the relevant parties. gone for parties. we have gone for a response all the relevant response from all the relevant parties degree of parties with a very degree of success. must be said. and success. it must be said. and charlie, as well, i just want to ask you, how on earth do you think it can be that live in think it can be that we live in a society, if you at least a society, where if you at least accused of covering or stifling an investigation into an level child rape and grooming gang that you can somehow now find your way working in the nhs. so the no checks here. well fundamentally nobody else is looking into this. what's been extraordinary for lots of my

investigation for this would gb news of the last year that i'm uncovering stories that have been in plain sight for been lying in plain sight for years, some cases for years, in some cases for decades. has been in decades. mr. hossain has been in the since october 2020. he the nhs since october 2020. he was promoted a few months ago, so it's escaped criticism because people have moved on. people to care very people don't seem to care very much about. what's fascinating is and there's no way of is that and there's no way of confirming it, but presumably on his cv you would have, what was it, community cohesion in? is this a cabinet member community cohesion and not it's not a job was done well you could see why he might be a good for the nhs diverse is he an inclusion thing but . someone would have only but. someone would have only just had to have checked online to see how well or otherwise he did that job. well, i mean, he was on the page of the times on the 6th of february 2015. finally, the truth the finally, the truth after the lies that headline his face lies that the headline his face bang the front of the page. bang on the front of the page. so clearly due diligence has not been or i and the been applied here or i and the broader cases think know broader cases i think you know what i is often a huge what i think is often a huge racket where people promote each other, they promote their

friends get away with friends and people get away with extraordinary backgrounds in this they the right this area. if they say the right thing just finally on this, thing and just finally on this, charlie, about charlie, we can't forget about the victims in all of this, even if society has, it would appear , even if the vast majority of the media has, even if our politicians and victims who've already potentially know in rotherham but in rochdale have to bump into their perpetrators at the shops. strong rumblings that particular chap who was involved in the grooming scandal as well. what's the delivery driver? so i've got a knock on the door one day. here's your piece. i'm the guy who groomed you raped you, again, you and raped you, etc. again, this case, is it not? this is a case, is it not? victims being forgotten ? victims being forgotten? absolutely. and the extraordinary thing again, i mean, there are many mean, there are so many extraordinary things keep extraordinary things i keep saying is the case. saying it really is the case. but many of the victims i've been speaking around the been speaking to around the country, just rotherham, country, not just rotherham, rochdale telford, beyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe le telford, beyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe way telford, beyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe way uptelford, beyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe way up to ford, beyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe way up to glasgow,)eyond country, not just rotherham, rocthe way up to glasgow, all»nd all the way up to glasgow, all way to bristol, many still way down to bristol, many still live as you live in fear because, as you said. see their abusers in said. they see their abusers in the street, see them in the shops, see them work. shops, they see them at work. they a lot of they can't avoid them. a lot of them live anonymously when they

are activists, under are activists, do it under a fake you know, they the fake name. you know, they the write under a pen name. they live in fear because our society has moved on and justice has never been told before. but actually time actually it's about time the perpetrators involved actually it's about time the pwhat �*ators involved actually it's about time the pwhat was; involved actually it's about time the pwhat was an involved actually it's about time the pwhat was an industrial|volved actually it's about time the pwhat was an industrial leveld . what was an industrial level scandal industrial level scandal but an industrial level cover started very cover up started being very afraid . go away for this for too afraid. go away for this for too long after they just quit. i quite agree. and we need investigation into every major town and city where credible reports of these abuses have been taking place. if we can't bnng been taking place. if we can't bring justice year, when bring to justice this year, when will obviously, charlie, will we obviously, charlie, thank you much. thank you. thank you very much. everything charlie everything you do? charlie peters at gb news, his very own documentary filmmaker. we are not drop this. ladies not going to drop this. ladies and gentlemen, i cannot believe that as difficult as it has that it's as difficult as it has been get kind of stuff been. get this kind of stuff front centre on the news front and centre on the news agenda because it is a proper pandemic. we've had type of pandemic. we've had type of pandemic. come pandemic. we're going to come onto little bit. but onto that in a little bit. but this is an ongoing pandemic. i want to read out a comment from the labour party spokesperson in relation to what charlie has just talking there just been talking about. there it complaints are taken

it says all complaints are taken seriously assessed in seriously and assessed in accordance rules and accordance with our rules and procedures . on background, we do procedures. on background, we do not comment any individual cases or individuals on the record because our disciplinary procedures are independ dente and confidential . procedures are independ dente and confidential. make of procedures are independ dente and confidential . make of that and confidential. make of that what you will, ladies and gentlemen. coming up, we have plenty more for you. we'll be getting stuck into the now night set . yeah, now knighted chris set. yeah, now knighted chris whitty concerns over the rising levels of flu and heart conditions due lockdown. really, chris? really, i'm not sure you raise your concerns during the lockdowns, did you? in fact, i think you quite like lockdowns. oh, stuntman jamie jenkins will be all over this like a rash later . are we having a crash later. are we having a crash crisis ? we'll be talking to crisis? we'll be talking to a think tank as found. 92% of parents say that childcare costs impact their standard of living. there's a fair bit to unpack here. my initial reaction was, don't have kids. you can't afford anything else. fair enough, honest you. enough, to be honest with you. but really at but also, you really look at this, those people who are right at the very bottom end, the scale they faced with

scale they are faced with getting kids, paid getting their kids, paid for those are over welfare. those who are over welfare. well, does well, it doesn't matter, does it? average common man it? it's your average common man and woman and not squishy middle ground at lower of ground at the lower end of it, who basically can't afford the kids to kids anymore. don't forget to send and send your views and gbviews@gbnews.uk that gbviews@gbnews.uk uk. put that kettle i will you into .

yeah welcome back you wonderful people. is patrick christys in for mark steyn. you are reliable . informed is on the mend. i know he really really appreciates all your love and support we all want him back as quickly good luck quickly as possible. good luck to but it's time to you, mark, but it's time now for audience reactions . to you, mark, but it's time now for audience reactions. i asked you your thoughts on this particular my group, who say he is now working in a diversity and inclusion to . be specific, and inclusion to. be specific, he had to resign in disgrace amid the old grooming gang scandal . okay, so a former scandal. okay, so a former labour party politician whose now classically working in

pubuc now classically working in public sector who would have thought i lesley i am disgusted you me both lesley but not surprised . that's how low this surprised. that's how low this country sunk, i expect. no james says it's a case of not what you know, but who you know. tell him we had a good, clear in the nhs of all of these ridiculous roles. they do not enhance any treatment but give to the boys on inflated. and you know what there will people switching this evening there will people evening there will be people switching right rotherham but also as well in the nhs also frankly as well in the nhs just around to see how on earth this chap got his job because of the bits and bobs about his involvement . when it comes to involvement. when it comes to the stifling of things to do with the rotherham scandals all in the public domain , all in the in the public domain, all in the pubuc in the public domain, all in the public domain anyway, andrew says. public domain anyway, andrew says . disgraceful and also par says. disgraceful and also par for the course , right? that's for the course, right? that's enough for those views. now keep them coming later on in the show that you get to pummel me. what can ask me anything, however abstract. last week someone asked vaccines out

asked me how many vaccines out i for goodness sake, gbviews@gbnews.uk patrick gbviews@gbnews.uk pommel patrick you anyway get you know the drill. anyway get a load of people. because load of this, people. because a year statistician year former to statistician jamie scrutinised the jamie jenkins scrutinised the decision for covid advisers to be prematurely given their honours. dr. jenny harries, the head of the uk health security agency and responsible for track and trace received a damehood . and trace received a damehood. while professor chris whitty was knighted . yeah, they were knighted. yeah, they were honoured for. the lives knighted. yeah, they were honoured for . the lives they honoured for. the lives they saved due to lockdowns. but what about all the lives they put at risk because of the lockdowns of all the who are now dying? because of lockdowns as of now there are reportedly 800 more people dying each week than normal levels. sir chris whitty himself just warned that mm%hwflwmmdma thousands himself just warned that thousands of middle aged are now dying of heart conditions after many were reluctant to bother the scared nhs during the pandemic . whose fault was that? pandemic. whose fault was that? chris whose fault was that this year has seen a higher number of deaths than from preventable

conditions, so was the cure worse ? the disease here to break worse? the disease here to break it down is , the man himself, it down is, the man himself, former owner stuff titian. he's the stunt man . he's the main the stunt man. he's the main man. it'sjamie jenkins the stunt man. he's the main man. it's jamie jenkins. the stunt man. he's the main man. it's jamie jenkins . jamie, man. it's jamie jenkins. jamie, great to see you. happy new year and about jazz. let's get stuck straight into this. why on earth? well lot given titles given this is a scandal, isn't it? well, i think so patrick and it? well, i think so patrick and it kind of makes a mockery of the whole honour system where you've had it again this year you've had it again this year you got alok sharma being given to sharma he's been kind of to alok sharma he's been kind of blowing kind of power blowing up kind of power stations couple stations the last couple of years given years and. he's been given a knighthood this year when you look contribution to look at his contribution to climate change. we have left . we climate change. we have left. we go last year i was go back to last year i was calling this out because, you know, just through all know, we just gone through all that, the big part of that, you know, the big part of the pandemic then some the pandemic and then some people well they just people would say, well they just doing job to give these doing their job to give these big honours last year and i think because we think it's a scandal because we had covid inquiry complete had the covid inquiry complete yet started in 2022. but it's yet is started in 2022. but it's going to take several years, i think, to come out with things. when actually look all of

when you actually look at all of the and figures, patrick, the facts and figures, patrick, remember short memories remember now have short memories but i'm sure most people watching tonight will remember the which was stay home, the podiums which was stay home, protect the nhs, save lives and some people say, well, of course what he was saying is stay home, stop infecting other people, not stay home and avoid the nhs. well that is not what the figures show is if you look at the data , the number of people the data, the number of people ten and up to 18, he fell off a cliff, the number of patients in total in hospital during the height of the pandemic. actually if look at causes was if you look at all causes was lower the lowest in the lower one of the lowest in the last six years. people stay last six years. so people stay away people are dying away and people are dying from it. whitty like an it. chris whitty is like an absolute me and he was absolute trigger me and he was at time i next slide at the time when i next slide please i nearly walked the sea one evening i just saw i've had enough of this and to see getting on it. okay i am willing to accept that his heart was in the right place, but just do not think he understood the utter fear that he pumped into the heart of this country with a lot

of the time very , very, very of the time very, very, very dubious data. and it was presented facts. i don't care what anyone says it was presented as though this was cast iron and it terrified people and now look at where we are, jamie. we've got 7 million people on the rest nhs waiting, we've got excess deaths coming out of ours, more people dying every week and died at the height of the afghan war. for goodness sake, we've got people now are struggling , mental now who are struggling, mental health problems, people who've got . they locked got addictions. they were locked inside, people and of inside, elderly people and of course, people who didn't bother going a gp because they going to see a gp because they were worried about they couldn't see but people who were see a gp. but people who were worried about bothering nhs worried about bothering the nhs as is in the toilet as our economy is in the toilet . jamie, i mean for goodness . and jamie, i mean for goodness give man a knighthood. no give this man a knighthood. no and that is what the scandal is, patrick, because know you give a night for people recognition for perhaps a great job we know not everybody who gets a knighthood has done a great job but why not

wait until after a covid inquiry or if there's any criticism that comes out from this, it's going to look, know, a bit silly to look, you know, a bit silly in terms of that and all you look at this time last year, patrick, told if we patrick, we were told if we don't, restrictions going don't, more restrictions going into the christmas just gone. the christmas before you the christmas before that you know to up the know deaths are going to up the omicron variant and omicron variant hit this and what johnson the what boris johnson and the cabinet in because cabinet in partly because patrick the were kind of on his back saying look can't back saying look we can't stomach restrictions stomach any more restrictions bofis stomach any more restrictions boris went against them and then what the homework of what we could do the homework of sage which chris whitty would actually be promoting at the cabinet meetings terms of cabinet meetings in terms of this numbers, patrick, this and the numbers, patrick, were 93% lower than what the models saying last christmas and what would they have been if we were marking the homework of all the previously? but the lockdowns previously? but yeah, i think it's you. it was a scandal this last year. it scandal this time last year. it just kind of irk as well, you just kind of irk me as well, you see this year and then coming out people are out now saying that people are dying because stayed home, dying because they stayed home, avoided the nhs. well, that's exactly what they were saying to do most of the time because of it. and i've seen some of the

stuff your tv station today stuff on your tv station today patrick clips of people and you know families devastated because of . well i did an interview of this. well i did an interview that nearly brought me tears that nearly brought me to tears earlier after pm earlier on today, just after pm with a lovely lady called lisa marie incredibly bravely, very tearful . she emotionally told tearful. she emotionally told about her husband's passing , was about her husband's passing, was trying to see a gp for however long, couldn't get a face to face appointment . was one of the face appointment. was one of the many people misdiagnosed over face time or zoom on a virtual appointment he's dead and i'm looking at these figures now 800 people a week dying access deaths and it's not just the dead it's their families and you magnify that or it's the people worked for them or colleagues. the impacts on the economy as well. i mean, instead of should chris whitty be made to apologise . well i think all the apologise. well i think all the around at the time should be made to apologise because ultimately obviously he would argue who's giving and it's the

politicians that where things kind of the buck . politicians that where things kind of the buck. i would imagine that patrick but right you're right you know those heartbreaking stories they all come devastating and you hit the nail on the head with the with the waiting list there 7.2 million. but what we're is, you know, some these waiting are know, some of these waiting are not people who have been on not just people who have been on the for, say, ten, the waiting list for, say, ten, 12 you know, number 12 weeks. you know, the number of waiting over a year of people waiting over a year has up as well, waiting has rocketed up as well, waiting for procedures has rocketed for how procedures has rocketed up come out, say, you up and to come out, say, you know, people avoiding nhs and people dying because you people are dying because it you know is that a lot of know that is that a lot of people were saying back in march 2020 that this was going to happen and this is i think the point you raise there, patrick which i think is important to kind of pull out there is the fear that was put in there because remember, we had different waves covid, but different waves of covid, but people away. the nhs, people stayed away. the nhs, even was very even when there was very ill covid some of the covid go around in some of the summer months they summer months because they still felt protect the felt do. i better protect the nhs save lives. and, and nhs to save lives. and, and people have stayed away far too long we've got who

long and we've got people who would after just would have died afterjust because they were misdiagnosed , because they were misdiagnosed, but because didn't even get but because they didn't even get diagnosed in the place. diagnosed in the first place. and gp's were not given the hurry up to get into their surgeries. they were not given the hurry up at all where people or triple vaccinated etc. we had waves of coronavirus all right? we had omicron and stuff, but gp's needed to be back in their surgeries and it was too all for them to continue down this ridiculous less virtual appointment. rabbit hole and the amount of lives that will be lost to chris which he was all very well and good telling us that you need to shut down your business, that you couldn't go to that couldn't do to the gym, that you couldn't do various you bankrupt various you had to bankrupt yourself sacrifices yourself and sacrifices at the altar of our beloved nhs. but was no good when it came to getting back moving getting the nhs back moving again. thank you very, again. jamie thank you very, very that's former very much. that's former ona statistician. of statistician. this statement of the jenkins , that the channel, jamie jenkins, that what you make of all of that what do you make of all of that people gbviews@gbnews.uk coming up. it's childcare and necessity . yes. should we be more . yes. and should we be more focussed on funding it? i'm a bit split this. okay, i'm a bit

split. i think you have split. i think you should have kids afford at the kids you can't afford at the same i think we need to same time. i think we need to get birth rate up a little get the birth rate up a little bit and also as well as those people in the who are actually suffering not uber rich and not you're really poor, they you're really really poor, they can kids on state, can just have kids on state, can't rishi sunak's can't they? rishi sunak's certainly though, doesn't think the be funding the people should be funding it. deputy without deputy director of own without him. hawkesby joining on him. hawkesby is joining me on this the break that we and this after the break that we and also the end of shoe polish also it's the end of shoe polish brand kiwi signalling hear me out on this the end of civilisation come patrick civilisation and come patrick looms you do not want to mess .

well the cost of living crisis is continuing to put pressure on after reports that a third of families identify childcare costs as one of their most expensive oh guys. i think it seems pretty reasonable . the liz seems pretty reasonable. the liz truss government had identified on childcare reform as of the

key supply side reforms to alleviate pressure on families. however today it's been reported that richest toorak is set to shelve these reforms. now last month the think onward published their report into what should be done. joining now to discuss the potential change of course and oma's report is the deputy director of onward adam hawke's bay. adam, let's just deal with the facts first, okay. why should people care about this ? should people care about this? well, they care about it for couple of reasons. one is because massively childcare costs are reducing of workers we've got in the economy. so we know about a third of parents say that they have considered leaving work or that they might leave work because they need to look their kids. they look after their kids. they can't afford childcare. the other because it other big reason is because it undermines families. undermines strong families. i think one of the reasons think that's one of the reasons it's people on the it's popular with people on the centre . we know that 50% centre right. we know that 50% of say they considered of people say they considered kids later because of the high

costs of childcare and strong families who want plenty of workers that. we need to be subsidising and right now we don't invest enough. okay, fair enough. one of the things that i'm concerned about is a bit of a go here between people who may be right the very bottom of our economics spectrum, who are on benefits right . and the people benefits right. and the people right at the very top here, uber rich chief deputy to worry about anything financially you'll argue the vast majority of people in this squishy middle ground there. i think the ones , ground there. i think the ones, you know, potentially can just not really afford to have kids . not really afford to have kids. so there is a big problem here with the kind of squeezed middle. so a lot of people that are on credit will have a childcare component of that that will be part of that broader benefits. it's the people fall in that where they might in that bracket where they might get entitlement to get the 15 hours entitlement to 13 entitlement, which is 13 hours entitlement, which is massively complex. it's really difficult to claim for things like tax , childcare, there are like tax, childcare, there are 1.3 million people. they're

eligible for that. exactly. the group you're talking about, patrick, and only 300,000 people claim that . so it's those people claim that. so it's those people in the middle of it are missing out on the benefits or the subsidies entitled to. and subsidies are entitled to. and they're who they're the people who are leaving workforce so they leaving the workforce so they are the people in these be targets and yes, now a lot of people especially a lot of our viewers listeners think viewers and our listeners think the too anyway , are the state is too big anyway, are too benefits and rishi too many benefits and rishi sunak paying for people sunak may be paying for people to quote unquote , have kids they to quote unquote, have kids they can't afford will be wrong. so people might support what rishi sunak doing how sunak is doing is, hey, how would respond to that? so would you respond to that? so liz is left winger and liz truss is left winger and there's a reason that she was really emphasising these sorts of reforms and why she framed them as supply side reform. it's because one of the big things holding back growth in this is the number of people are working and one of the reasons they're not only one, not working not the only one, but of them is because but one of them is because looking after takes up looking after children takes up too their time. they're too much of their time. they're not to take the part time not able to take the part time job might want to. they're job they might want to. they're not able to take the promotion

they want to, but it'll be they might want to, but it'll be paying they might want to, but it'll be paying bring more paying more taxes, bring more money exchequer. money into the exchequer. so why? people the why? that's why people on the right, centre right, right, on the centre right, should about this issue. should care about this issue. no, i think this is fascinating stuff. know you've stuff. i don't know if you've got answer to that, but it's got the answer to that, but it's just it's just purely anecdotal. are the cultural differences because in some it's maybe slightly accepted the slightly more accepted for the wife what you could wife to have what you could argue, a more traditional argue, maybe a more traditional role staying role within home, i.e. staying at home. some would say that's outdated of, whereas in outdated of, whereas perhaps in other cultures it's the wife up just i suppose a woman in the manner equal rights that they can go out and work and all of this. are there cultural differences when it comes to the amount people having the amount of people having the amount of people having the amount that they do? so amount of kids that they do? so there's a cultural in there's certainly a cultural in terms the that we terms of the amount that we invest order to support those invest in order to support those sorts of decisions. so we see that in nordic countries, in particular places like sweden particular in places like sweden and invest in this and denmark, they invest in this and denmark, they invest in this a more. actually a lot more. but actually culturally, what a lot of countries is moving countries are doing is moving away paternity, maternity away from paternity, maternity leave parental . and one leave to just parental. and one of things we recommended is of the things we recommended is you a single set of you have a single set of parental let

parental for parents and let parents decide whether that's a mom and i doubt it out in the data moment of mum they can say, all right, you take nine months, i'll three or we'll take i'll take three or we'll take six. each takes months six. each one takes 12 months and now. the key here and one takes now. the key here is choice. about is about choice. it's about flexibility. that's key flexibility. that's a key principle that conservative should have that parents should decide how they divvy these things up as opposed to the state prescribing on them based on gender, how expensive is childcare enormously expensive . childcare enormously expensive. so the average parent pays for a o so the average parent pays for a 0 to 2 year old, about 140 could a week. that's double the weekly shop and that's gone up by about 20% in the past year or so. 75 years salary. so it's expensive andifs years salary. so it's expensive and it's going up even and the average parents jointly spend about 26% of their income on childcare . that is three times childcare. that is three times the oecd average. the average of other wealthy countries, which is more like 9. so it is expensive, particularly expensive, particularly expensive, yes. so that's the

thing, isn't it because when you add in the fact that people will have mortgage repayments, they've got energy and they've got else outgoings that got whatever else outgoings that they normal stuff they do have just normal stuff life you add a child life stuff. when you add a child into the mix there and, i don't know about your personal circumstances. don't to circumstances. don't need to know, but i don't know, of course, but i don't mind which one mind revealing which is the one of main reasons why i of the main reasons why i am. yes, i have child apart from. yes, i have a child apart from. the that haven't found the fact that i haven't found a woman stupid enough want to reproduce with me, course. is reproduce with me, of course. is i afford and the i just couldn't afford and the burden of my life would be to give. enjoy sitting here too give. i enjoy sitting here too much little bit of much and having a little bit of caphal much and having a little bit of capital. i enjoy that a lot more right than i enjoy having right now than i enjoy having that massive strain on my life. is that fair? do you think ? is that fair? do you think? well, patrick, you and i are , well, patrick, you and i are, part of the 51% of people that are choosing to have kids and that's absolutely us , that's absolutely fine for us, but a massive problem . but that is a massive problem. you mentioned your you mentioned in your introduction fertility as a introduction of fertility as a country plummeting and you country is plummeting and you ask about cultural differences across western and this is across western world and this is very to it. some asian very different to it. some asian countries we've got massive demographic timebomb , we've got demographic timebomb, we've got this people the kind of

this lump of people the kind of boomer generation are going boomer generation who are going to care and a lack to need social care and a lack of people that are taxpayers, that younger. so might be that younger. so it might be fine you and me to make that fine for you and me to make that decision, but if makes that decision, but if makes that decision, we're going in decision, we're going to be in big trouble quickly, very. big trouble very quickly, very. is to be the take? is is it easy to be on the take? is it easy to be unemployed , to it easy to be unemployed, to have loads of kids and get the states for the. no, i think states to for the. no, i think to be honest, the benefits for people, particularly as they've been eroded by inflation make that life pretty tricky. but actually as someone the actually as someone on the centre right, think it is centre right, i think it is better those individuals to better for those individuals to better for those individuals to be in work that is more fulfilling lives they fulfilling lives in which they can realise potential and can realise that potential and so what we should be doing is trying to help them get into work whatever we can go work in whatever way we can go for go for reproduce. for growth, go for reproduce. adam thank you very much. adam thank you very, very much. adam thank you very, very much. adam director of adam o'shea, the director of onward. director? onward. which deputy director? i'm promoted i'm sorry i promoted now, although think only although i think it's only a matter with adam it. matter of time with adam it. right. coming next the right. okay. coming next is the end queue. hear me on end of the queue. hear me on this does end of the this paper. does the end of the kiwi shoe polish in the uk herald. the end of western civilisation, if you can tell

lot about a member issues, what can tell by an asian what can you tell by an asian what looks like answers the looks like answers in the toilet? we'll giving one toilet? we'll be giving that one a ones over with joseph a good ones over with joseph robinson director the robinson. he's director of the think tank orthodox . and far think tank orthodox. and as far as aware , shoeshine as i'm aware, shoeshine connoisseur and the patrick is just around the corner. send your views vaiews@gbnews.uk . your views vaiews@gbnews.uk. you can ask me and i really mean that. don't go anywhere .

oh oh, hey, you call me. oh, oh well, there we are. the end. apparently is near for western civilisation . why? because we civilisation. why? because we stopped polishing our shoes. that's right. household brand kiwi is to no longer sell it. shoe cat products in britain . shoe cat products in britain. what a slovenly bunch of it , what a slovenly bunch of it, quite literally. now we have become what a national secure is. the issue it is to is the to

be slaying the king's enemies. his long trusted tens of parade gloss unthinkable so is this it has the west been polished off for good. the empire could have been built by man and body worn was in night jordans, could it? or always just a fickle lot. i personally think this is a vivid sign of decline. is the return of proper attire to be expected as soon as we realise that wearing soft plastic trainers with the same scruffy bedraggled get up all the time. actually pretty depressing . well, joining pretty depressing. well, joining me now to discuss the fact that apparently stop polishing our shoes and that's an absolute national disgrace. it's joseph robinson, director of the orthodox think orthodox conservative think tank. very much. why tank. thank you very much. why on earth, we become so on earth, have we become so scruffy ? well you know, patrick, scruffy? well you know, patrick, i think the clue is, is in what been going on for the last two years. isn't that all been working from home and people have forgotten to dress like gentlemen and actually go and do some work outside of their homes . and you know, i think this is

perhaps a reawakening to remember what it actually means . it sounds like a city story, but it is not it's kind of to do with a status symbol that has always there and always always been there and always will know, will be there, you know, dressing gentleman. what dressing like a gentleman. what does mean ? it's gone of does it mean? it's gone out of fashion that is the thing. fashion that this is the thing. it's gone out of fashion. i think you're about. go on to say exactly something. i am thinking, points thinking, which is this points to a vivid, vivid to a sun, a vivid, vivid decline, where people go more mad for stormzy than beethoven, for. we're not even for. and now we're not even polishing our shoes, for goodness . well, i know, but goodness sake. well, i know, but you . i think there's still you. i think there's still a deep seated instinct in the british public. i'd like to dress in a certain way. i like my suits . and, you know, my suits. and, you know, i always get some compliment normally compliments hurled at me i'm walking through me when i'm walking through london it is london parading whatever it is i've put on that i've decided to put on that sunday. i think this is sunday. but i think this is a little, you know, something to do with forgotten era , a day do with forgotten era, a day when, you know, dressing well actually meant something and. you know, if you go into some of the member's around london and some of the people towels, you'll notice that there's often

a box of polish down on a little box of polish down on the floor, you know, ready to scrub on your way into ort scrub up on your way into ort whatever was was very much whatever it was it was very much a we kind of forgotten a status. we kind of forgotten that you know, that perhaps, you know, consciously, are trying consciously, perhaps are trying to rid of that sort of style to get rid of that sort of style . don't like the idea of . they don't like the idea of having dress up and play a having to dress up and play a part think we're losing part, but i think we're losing something . yeah, but why do you something. yeah, but why do you think the vast majority of people in this country should actually because on actually care? because on the face is just brand face it, this is just a brand going leaving this going bust or leaving this particular nation, isn't it? but actually do you think they're polishing the shoes? it means something . yeah, well, i something. yeah, well, i remember, you know, it's cool memory for me, polishing my you know, i was eyewitness church as a child and my family always, you know, make sure that the shoes were in the best shape possible for going out. it was kind of one of those things, the smell of the polish you know, you remember that. and if you had in the scouts or had ever been in the scouts or you had ever been in any version of kind of those sort of things, you know, cubs that kind of

thing, you have had to thing, you would have had to poush thing, you would have had to polish shoes and that sort polish your shoes and that sort of listings. standard of thing. listings. standard slip. standards slip. well, letting standards slip. because , you know, slip. right, because, you know, now it's become fashionable. so it's become fashionable to dog your hair blue and you know , your hair blue and you know, become as slovenly as possible work from home and, you know , work from home and, you know, dirty tracksuits and all of this stuff. i just feel like we're letting our standards as a nafion letting our standards as a nation slip and wilfully so it's become cool to be dishevelled that that's good point. i think people kind of enjoy laziness, don't they? but they know what they're missing out on because i think definitely something when you actually make an effort, you know, and people do get a taste of when go out to of that when they go out to parties they out to parties or they go out to different but i think different events. but i think the that people the reality is that people lost what to , you know, try what it means to, you know, try and play a part and actually , and play a part and actually, you know, do something that's above the ordinary above and beyond the ordinary people have tried to open their eyes. everything them, you know, including their work lives, which i think a shame. yeah, which i think is a shame. yeah, indeed. look, joseph thank you very much. and it's a pleasure

to have you on the show and speaking of sense, i think speaking a lot of sense, i think joseph the direct joseph roberts, the direct serve, orthodox think tank, serve, the orthodox think tank, reacting the fact that kiwi reacting to the fact that kiwi shoe polish will longer start shoe polish will no longer start selling products in england selling its products in england because we don't use it anymore. i a serious note, this i do. on a serious note, this points this particular points to a in this particular country now being as a matter of fact, only thing polish fact, the only thing polish comes in this comes from warsaw in this country the it would country at the moment, it would appear anyway, time for appear anyway, it's time for a good the patrick. that's good pommel. the patrick. that's right. let's see what give right. let's see what you give me. so this is a section, okay. it's not quite this done. okay. it's not quite this done. okay. i be mark steyn are i will never be mark steyn are you asking how it is, by the way? partly is on the and we all wish mark well. i'm just wish mark well. okay i'm just merely his seat warm merely keeping his seat warm for him he recovers anyway. so him while he recovers anyway. so patrick, ask patrick, you get to ask me anything and is bitten. he says , what's your favourite eminence 7 , what's your favourite eminence ? ready email. wow. it depends how close to payday is lewis, because the start pay payday my favourite eminence. ready? me? oh, by the way, this man has over the right that was just take a pummelling me each take a pummelling for me each single is actually the sushi

single day is actually the sushi so go for the sushi lather it on with the soy sauce soy sauce where you make your money back so free anyway so give it away for free anyway lather soy that's lather it over the soy that's fine. if it's towards fine. however if it's towards the of the lewis , the end of the month, lewis, anything with the elastic or it there we get, david says gary or phil neville oh, grief . the phil neville. oh, grief. the thing is , i mean, i'm going to thing is, i mean, i'm going to go got that is like being asked to choose which toilet smells better , isn't it? gary and phil better, isn't it? gary and phil both for manchester united place, of course. i am indeed a manchester united fan. i've made the joke before. neville days right back. terrible left winger phil neville not particularly ehhen phil neville not particularly either. i'm going to go phil neville just because at least he's not as overtly woke as his brother . gary he's not as overtly woke as his brother. gary just keeps harping on and on and on. doesn't about labour that unions is using football commentary as some kind of policy political broadcast gary get a live pamela's on pamela says we never had any department closed in any hospital in spain during the entire pan why patrick the whole

of the nhs close we even had cancer treatments. i am glad i live . presumably she's in spain live. presumably she's in spain and i a gp appointment during our lockdown. right. okay. well, lots impart that. pamela and i will endeavour to do the opposite. lots of it. why did the whole of the nhs close ? i the whole of the nhs close? i suppose people would argue. well the whole the interest didn't close, it just became the national cover service didn't it. not nhs as a whole which i think we all came to know, didn't and only think it goes for a few reasons. we massively overreacted in face of the pandemic and actually people were very , very scared and they were very, very scared and they were very, very scared and they were scared because the likes of chris whitty and co i were doing their best to just pump various people from rooms every single day. now it's easy to say, well yes, the politicians it wrong because they listened to them, but course was the but then course there was the getting from the experts. but then course there was the gewas] from the experts. but then course there was the gewas a from the experts. but then course there was the gewas a very, from the experts. but then course there was the gewas a very, very] the experts. but then course there was the gewas a very, very difficult)erts. it was a very, very difficult combination of things to do, wasn't if the politicians wasn't it? if the politicians ignored were ignored them, then they were getting know what?

getting hounded, you know what? i the biggest i think one of the biggest things of the media things was the role of the media in of this every single day. in all of this every single day. that's while locking that's while you're locking down, while you're this. why aren't that? they aren't you doing that? they couldn't so they couldn't get it right, so they panicked. you know what i panicked. but you know what i find outrageous? it's find absolutely outrageous? it's everywhere. remember nightingale hospitals? yeah well, open to them. no. them. will they ever used? no. we millions, if not we spent millions, if not billions. nightingale billions. the nightingale hospitals, were great hospitals, they were great triumph of human engineering for a the excel centre in a while. had the excel centre in london. wales's london. i think wales's principality was. principality centre was. principality centre was. principality should principality stadium, i should say giant hospital say it was into a giant hospital . were any of them ever really used ? no. we could do with them used? no. we could do with them now, though, couldn't we? could do with them like the giant great flow pop song great big over flow car pop song and just treatments. i think it will go down as an absolute scandal that i cannot scandal whopping that i cannot wait results of this wait for the results of this covid emerge. covid inquiry to emerge. actually, have actually, if we ever have anything like again, then anything like this again, then we make sure and it we should make sure and it should matter of public should be a matter of public that have some of on the that we have some of vote on the response we take to it, because if you do, giving people the choice as we know to suffer economic ruin people won't be able to get cancer treatments. for routine health care

for example, routine health care appointments to be a struggle. gp not wanting to see you face to face. children with catastrophic mental health problems. not being able to problems. kids not being able to at walk massive amounts of at all walk massive amounts of learning etc. all at all walk massive amounts of le'thatg etc. all at all walk massive amounts of le'that stuff. etc. all at all walk massive amounts of le'that stuff. i etc. all at all walk massive amounts of le'that stuff. i don't etc. all at all walk massive amounts of le'that stuff. i don't think ll of that stuff. i don't think people would have behaved in the way that they did then just a very final one. david says , when very final one. david says, when does stubble become a bear david? i wouldn't know because it can't grow either. well, dolan is here covering for the wonderful watson . mark wonderful dan watson. mark e—legend on the agenda tonight, not as much of a legend as you, patrick, new year, big guy. and i wish you all the best for 2023. my year's resolutions also the nhs has reached the point of no return , another winter, no return, another winter, another crisis . it's enough to another crisis. it's enough to make you sick . plus, what about make you sick. plus, what about siblings? we've heard that prince harry wants to make up with william is blood thicker than water ? we'll speak to tv than water? we'll speak to tv legend kim woodburn plus the papers my all star panel but that monologue is on its way.

don't go anywhere . see you in don't go anywhere. see you in three. yes mark. absolutely fantastic stuff. well, thank you very much. that's going to be my darling with you covering for don watson up in patrick christys, as mark steyn would say stay safe. stay . free ahead say stay safe. stay. free ahead to tomorrow's weather on the uk's looking chilly to start with in the east with wind and rain spreading from the west. let's take a look at the details starting off across scotland. and after a cold start to night, temperatures will have begun to rise by 7 am. as rain and hill snow eastwards across the country . meanwhile, it'll be country. meanwhile, it'll be mostly dry for northern ireland with some further heavy rain and strong winds are going arrive by lunchtime . it'll be a cloudy, lunchtime. it'll be a cloudy, wet and start across much of north west england with outbreaks of rain a milder morning than late, though, in wales it'll be a similar picture with outbreaks of rain and blustery winds. the rain could be heavy at times through the

morning, but the heaviest rain will come later in the day . a will come later in the day. a dner will come later in the day. a drier and clearer picture further east. cloud will be starting to push into the west midlands. but for the east midlands. but for the east midlands it's looking fine at first. but the rain will arrive here later . a chilly start first. but the rain will arrive here later. a chilly start for east anglia. clear skies overnight will allow for a touch of frost, but will then also bnng of frost, but will then also bring plenty of sunshine first before turning wet later towards the south there'll be outbreaks of rain eastwards across most pass through the morning after brief dry spell. further heavy rain is to come. brief dry spell. further heavy rain is to come . the cloud and rain is to come. the cloud and rain is to come. the cloud and rain will spread eastwards to all parts throughout the morning with heavier rain arriving throughout the afternoon . on throughout the afternoon. on it's mark dolan in for the big man with my first show of 2023 in my big opinion monologue , the in my big opinion monologue, the nhs has reached the point of no return. it's enough to make you sick. it might take ten my new

year's resolutions for 2023 blast top tory mp andrew bridgen on why wants to stop the vaccine top us doctor berry on how to have a lean and healthy new year and will have a spring clean with how clean is your house legend kim woodburn. we're live from .

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