n0 spin , no bias, no spin , no bias, no censorship no spin, no bias, no censorship . this is dan wootton tonight me. mark dolan. coming up new yeah me. mark dolan. coming up new year. same old fear mongering. the government backed and on evidence to warning for brits to mask up if they feel unwell to you guessed it save the nhs. this is performative mission creep and i'll explain why giving in again will leave us with medical tyranny forever masks. thanks but no thanks. that's next. then i'll get the views of my superstar panel. christine hamilton johnson, agent, and rebecca reid . but agent, and rebecca reid. but forget muzzling the nation is privatising the nhs the only way to save it .7 we'll hear from both

to save it.7 we'll hear from both sides on that in the clash at 920 as britain braces for the worst week of rail for 30 years. could facing down the unions be rishi sunak's falklands moment and does he need to do to see off marxist barons. that is our big debate at ten at 1045. former sun kelvin mackenzie is on cancelled to answer a simple question should prince harry put a sock in it.7 don't miss that. also, should trans be banned from giving intimate care to women and girls . woke nhs bosses women and girls. woke nhs bosses don't see a problem but legendary father , creator and legendary father, creator and defender of women's graham linehan gives opposing view . at linehan gives opposing view. at 935, a an outbreak of common sense as england rugby star maro itoje says that we should singing swing low sweet chariot despite its links to slavery. should sports fans be allowed

sing songs that some consider offensive? former mumford sons musician turned freedom fighter winston marshall is live at 1020 also. he's 2023 the year that we let men be men again. social commentator halpin gives her defence masculinity in the outside . at 950 will see if she outside. at 950 will see if she can get me to man a bit. plus, i'll bring you tomorrow's as they drop and crown the greatest britain and union jackass before the night is out but that mask monologue is on its way. you won't want to miss it. i'm not pulling my punches. this is dan wootton let's go . wootton tonight. let's go. that's right. my digest is coming. but first, the news headuneis coming. but first, the news headline is with aaron armstrong . go

headline is with aaron armstrong. go armstrong in the gb newsroom. the disgraced former of bagman three has pleaded not guilty to multiple fraud charges following the collapse of his cryptocurrency exchange . he's cryptocurrency exchange. he's accused of stealing billions of dollars from customers and to fund his hedge , to buy property fund his hedge, to buy property and make political . prosecutors and make political. prosecutors say bankman—fried orchestrated one of the biggest financial in american history. if convicted he could face more than 100 years in prison , the health years in prison, the health secretary is blaming covid flu and the threat of strep for the extra pressure being put on the nhs . his extra pressure being put on the nhs. his comments come amid mounting concern over the winter crisis with more than a dozen nhs trusts and ambulance services declaring . critical services declaring. critical incidents over the festive . incidents over the festive. medical experts say to 500 people are dying each week as a result of delays , urgent care. result of delays, urgent care. but steve says the government is

working . reduce the backlog. working. reduce the backlog. focus the funding on to the operations backlogs. for example getting more diagnostic hubs in place. getting the surgical hubs that were rolling out, getting the backlog from the pandemic, reduce been the key priority. that's where we've surged additional funding . but we also additional funding. but we also recognise the big pressure that we're seeing play through in terms of ambulance handover delays is largely triggered by those who are fit leave hospital but delayed in doing so. and we need to feel big capacity and thatis need to feel big capacity and that is often about having the right social provision to do so . rail will face continued disruption for the rest of the week as a result of strikes by the rmt union. roughly half of britain's railway lines are closed, with only a fifth of services running. many places, including most of scotland , including most of scotland, wales, have no trains running all. transport secretary harper says the government's offered a very fair pay offer, but the rmt maintains there's been no new

proposal and is accusing the government of blocking an agreement . people travelling to agreement. people travelling to the uk from china will not to self—isolate if they test positive for covid on arrival . positive for covid on arrival. the government says testing is designed collect information in the absence of transparent coronavirus from chinese authorities . from thursday, authorities. from thursday, those flying to the uk to airport from china will be required to show a negative covid test. boarding the plane and thousands of mourners in brazil lined the streets santos to pay their final respects to the footballing legend pele , his the footballing legend pele, his coffin draped in a brazilian flag, was carried through the streets on a firetruck to a private family funeral where pele was finally laid to rest. earlier, some 230,000 mourners, including country's new president, filed past open casket to pay homage to the three time world cup winner . three time world cup winner. pele died last week at the age of 82 after battling colon

cancer. of 82 after battling colon cancer . tv online at of 82 after battling colon cancer. tv online at ddb plus radio. this is gb news. and now it back to . it back to. mark here we go again. don't say i didn't warn you . professor susan didn't warn you. professor susan hopkins, the chief adviser at the uk security agency , has the uk security agency, has urged the public to face masks if they feel unwell . in new if they feel unwell. in new advice issued to try to stop the spread of flu . now you know the spread of flu. now you know the old saying the definition of madness is doing the same thing over over again and expecting a different result. well, that seems to be a good way of summing up a public these days. surely three years after the arrival of covid, we're not still flogging these wretched muscles are . we have we really muscles are. we have we really got to go through all of this again. face masks are

environmentally catastrophic, non recycle with billions now discard it making their way into the and slowly threatening the food chain. well done everyone they impede economic activity human interaction . they affect human interaction. they affect education and as i experienced as an nhs hospital yesterday, they already asked for patient care as the truly excellent doctors and nurses that i engaged with kept removing their face in order to get their point across. what's the point in that . it's cruel on doctors and nurses to make them wear these all day long. and it can't be good for their health either. and they're mostly wearing those flimsy blue masks that the germans didn't accept during their strict n95 and ffp2 mask mandates of 2021, which the way rates of viral show haven't helped germany either. covid

theatre at its very worst, i say to n95 and ffp ffp2 can ffp off . these masks are just there to virtue signal. what a nice person you are whilst my view the only thing they actually signal is that you don't understand science . don't take understand science. don't take my word for it. former sage adviser dr. colin axon told the telegraph in the summer of 2021 the following. he said standard face coverings are just comfort blankets that do little to reduce the of covid particles . reduce the of covid particles. he accused medics of presenting a cartoonish view of how tiny particles travel through the air. he warned that some masks have gaps which are invisible to naked eye, but which are 5000 times the size of viral covid particles . he went on, imagine particles. he went on, imagine marbles being fired at builder's scaffolding . some might hit scaffolding. some might hit a pole and rebound, but most will

fly through. well was just as eloquent on this very show in october 2021. what's your view about the efficacy face coverings? the physics , the coverings? the physics, the engineering would indicate that certainly aerosol sized particles and obviously of air we breathing in and out about also the aerosols , which are also the aerosols, which are tiny microscopic articles, which are the other kinds contain some molecules , some water vapour, molecules, some water vapour, perhaps some bits of lining of the .nose or throat , but don't do the .nose or throat, but don't do much into that. but they are all order of a thousandth of a millimetre in diameter. that's in area terms at least a thousand times smaller than the smallest gaps or the smallest pore sizes in surgical blue surgical masks , the cloth masks surgical masks, the cloth masks are worse still not exactly a

ringing endorsement, is it? most egregiously, these face coverings are about control. they're about compliance . they they're about compliance. they represent obey medians and masks while , scientifically debateable while, scientifically debateable are irredeemably woke. why else to so many them in their twitter bios online ? whenever i see one bios online? whenever i see one of those, i think what a cult i personally made headlines around the world and provoked a viral video when i chopped up a mask early in the on my old radio show . well that moment has aged show. well that moment has aged well , i'm show. well that moment has aged well, i'm delighted to say that most brits are now voting with their faces and voting with their faces and voting with their smile . this winter, i've their smile. this winter, i've noticed, even people in supposedly clinically groups are going around unmasked throughout december , attending various december, attending various packed events , awards, dinners, packed events, awards, dinners, christmas lunches , pop events, christmas lunches, pop events, restaurants. you name it. people were squeezed into venues, mask free and yesterday at a major

nhs hospital. even the receptionist who saw me was wonderfully maskless . i could wonderfully maskless. i could actually hear what she was saying and it was such a treat. after million years of evil . after million years of evil. when did we become so afraid of colds and flu . i sent out this colds and flu. i sent out this tweet christmas. it that exact sentiment . and it went viral. no sentiment. and it went viral. no pun intended . i sitting on pun intended. i sitting on a packed train, no masks in sight . people coughing and wheezing , . people coughing and wheezing, no fear of germs , just normal no fear of germs, just normal life, absolute heaven . now, with life, absolute heaven. now, with the pandemic taught us one thing. it's that if you the authorities an inch they'll take authorities an inch they'll take a mile, which is why masking up this winter open the door to future tyranny the likes of which we've only just escaped. what starts as a suggestion becomes an instruction . it's my becomes an instruction. it's my view that recommending masks is really just the authorities

covering faces to cover . with covering faces to cover. with hospitals clearly under pressure , the authorities revert to type and go window dressing by getting to wear masks. they're being seen do something. but i cannot sign up to any more of this nonsense when it's clear. now, after three years of covid measures that countries with strict mask mandates produced no noticeably outcomes than those that were mask free. sweden who never mandated masks , boasted never mandated masks, boasted one of the lowest excess death in europe and florida shamed california by going mask months earlier. and yet boast comparable age adjusted outcomes . if masks worked , we would know . if masks worked, we would know by now they would have moved the dial. but for all of their damage, the figures would suggest. they've delivered precious little china. the most recent where draconian mask rules have done nothing to stop an explosion in covid cases.

don't forget the horrors of british children as young as 11 sat in the classroom day long wearing those filthy, restrictive device with no evidence it would help . let's evidence it would help. let's not go back to that . if we don't not go back to that. if we don't reject masks now, they will be with us forever. only place you'll get a mask on me this winter is where the sun doesn't shine. good luck trying . what's shine. good luck trying. what's your view? a dine at gb news uk responding to my big opinion monologue and the big stories of the day, my superstar panel writer broadcaster christine hamilton , political journalist, hamilton, political journalist, broadcasting legend john sargeant and journalist rebecca. john, let me with you. we must not cave in to the tyrannical measures of government. yes, i. it's a bit strong. what your views about this now. what you what you. what you forget all this is the effect of people . this is the effect of people. they're doing something to help and they're not. i know, but.

but you shouldn't sneer at that. dufing but you shouldn't sneer at that. during the war. people were encouraged to knock down their cost railings . they were told if cost railings. they were told if they could collect together, they could collect together, they would make a. so people knocked down all sorts of railings. you can still see it now where ratings are being cut to do this of course to convert ratings into spitfires would have been incredibly expensive, very difficult to do. so behind the scenes they simply piled them up . but people felt they them up. but people felt they were contributing to the war effort. now you can sneer at it now and you can say that we can do that for a moment, but you can say how primitive and how absurd. but bear in mind that people go through incredible war with thousands of casualties. people have gone through pandemic with thousands casualties, and there has been a feeling we're all in this together. we're trying to do our. now lots of people have suffered because they don't feel that and they're still suffering

mental health problems and all sorts difficulties. but don't undress make the power of that. the feeling that what are you doing to help what i'm wearing mask i think i'm doing what i'm told to do and. people need that reassurance . they're helping. reassurance. they're helping. that's what i would say . but you that's what i would say. but you acknowledge with your water anecdote that masks don't . well, anecdote that masks don't. well, they may be performative. it is things they may or may not work. but what they to do is they do it when we know, provide reassurance. that's all may reassurance. that's all they may say much reassurance and is say how much reassurance and is it it? and it seem it worth it? and it seem sensible. and you're right to question it. but don't say it's rubbish and don't say it's all to do with authoritarian . and to do with authoritarian. and these are tyrants who are trying to put us all a sort of military camp. it's not as simple as that. these are very elaborate ways in which large population wins, get over these horrendous problems. well, an old friend of yours , graham brady, well, back yours, graham brady, well, back yours, graham brady, well, back your previous beat as the chief political correspondent of the bbc , of course, the itn and

bbc, of course, the itn and elsewhere . he pointed out in elsewhere. he pointed out in july 2021 that really these masks are about compliance and it is about mongering, because at the time government wanted us to be afraid of the virus. now, again, perhaps that's justified but it's now 2023. and is it not time to move on now? covid your time. move on and. if you if you travel about or i was in as it turned out i was in hospital today and the nurses were wearing masks but they were saying, it's up to you to do you want to do and they said it in such a cheerful, friendly. i thought, that's rather nice. well, there's no sense of. yeah, you do this. so we had tyranny. we're trying to force, you know , they were being very british. and john. john and rebecca reid, john raises a good point that at the moment it's not tyranny, it's just a suggestion from susan. it's just a suggestion from susan . but we've learned in the susan. but we've learned in the pandemic that what starts as a suggestion becomes , an suggestion becomes, an instruction. so i'm naturally quite sensitive it i find it quite sensitive it i find it

quite triggering . i know you do quite triggering. i know you do and i'm sad you because i think it seems to genuinely you. i don't feel the same way. i'm not so bruised by this. give them an inch they'll take a mile . inch and they'll take a mile. respect what you're coming from, but me, i think this is much but for me, i think this is much more idea of asking more similar. the idea of asking people their people to sneeze into their elbow, also a public elbow, which is also a public health know if health campaign. we know that if somebody i personally have a cold right now in my old hall, but you sneeze polite, not but if you sneeze polite, not sneeze room assembled sneeze into a room of assembled company think the way that company and i think the way that we're at at the we're looking at mask at the moment is say it's one of the things you can do to try and avoid spreading a cold. nobody is a silver bullet. is saying it's a silver bullet. it's foolproof unless you're it's foolproof and unless you're going full mask. we going to wear a full mask. we did very well masks for did very well without masks for millennia . do have to have millennia. do we have to have them every winter? well, them now? every winter? well, i suppose because what's changed? because desperately because we are desperately trying in trying to people being in hospital, because there's absolutely capacity do. we absolutely no capacity to do. we didn't the patterns. we didn't see the patterns. we ought to use devices where the homes that 5000 times bigger than covid party that is than a covid party that is almost as pointless the masks almost as pointless as the masks that on my sewing machine that i made on my sewing machine the beginning of the right. if

you if you want to wear masks literally yourself it's literally protect yourself it's going can never going to proper. i can never remember. nine, five and remember. and nine, five and every 3 hours or whatever it was, if pe two they can feel really awful that was worth a revisit that line you just can't take this you can certainly make money but if somebody was standing next to me on the tube and they were going to sneeze down my neck, i'd rather they have one of those on the nothing christine help it's two against one hand don't actually one hand i, i don't actually personally feel very threatened by because think it's by it because i don't think it's going happen if mask had been going to happen if mask had been proved any at all, then proved to have any at all, then i'm all fine. let, let do. but as rebecca just said, there's masks i mean thing you masks and mask. i mean thing you might well bother. might as well just not bother. but you if you worried about but if you if you worried about it and one thing that worries me about it is that gives about it is that it gives a false sense of security. they've got of those things on them. got one of those things on them. they i'm going to they oh, fine, i'm not going to catch anything. i'm not going to pass anything but an pass anything on but give an inch take them out. i don't inch and take them out. i don't think these are down the think these are coming down the line mandatory , better line is mandatory, is better than being afraid.

than people being afraid. i think christine, think worrying, christine, i really do. i think christine it a defence manoeuvre on my part . a defence manoeuvre on my part. but isn't it better that people, you know, they might give them a false sense of security but isn't that better than people just terrified don't just being terrified they don't think terrified think people are terrified anymore and lot of people are frightened. they not be frightened. well, they not be frightened. well, they not be frightened because nothing to i kind of now with calm them kind of now cope with calm them down. were worried in the down. but we were worried in the outset the outset, course outset at the outset, of course we understand but we no we were understand but we had no idea what was coming down the track. so of course we everything stayed and everything we stayed indoors and we pathetically thinking we wore pathetically thinking that were going to have that they were going to have some but i don't think some effect. but i don't think people now people are afraid of it now there are very elderly, there are a few very elderly, very vulnerable for other reasons . some people though, and reasons. some people though, and theyi reasons. some people though, and they i mean, you they i mean, if you meet somebody was teenager in somebody who was a teenager in the eighties, early , they the late eighties, early, they all talk about hiv with all i this is before my time but gravestone adverts and i think it's like the down the wind nuclear apocalypse these all before my time but those that i remember is i remember them

crying scars on people's things which i know the people who designed it to do it. it was the lack of information and education, but they got the information and we've all been educated, i suppose they need to. and maybe there there's some unlearning. okay. well some of my view my view on masks once bitten, twice shy. that's my view . essentially, you accept view. essentially, you accept masks this winter. view. essentially, you accept masks this winter . be with us masks this winter. be with us forever and we'll just be a masking country. that's not a country i want to live in. and by the way, whatever to environmental concerns . these environmental concerns. these things are not recyclable . and things are not recyclable. and by the way, is it for great human health to wear a mask for prolonged periods? it can't be. but look, it's all opinions. fascinated by what john and rebecca have had to say on that. what's diana what's your view? diana gbnews.uk and lots more to come. my gbnews.uk and lots more to come. my brilliant panel return. but coming up, should doctors coming up, should trans doctors be giving intimate be stopped from giving intimate care women? father ted creator graeme linehan gives his take at 935. but first, in the clash, as annie times are set to hit

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we do love a right old ding dong on their show. so it's time for the clash . the chair , the the clash. the chair, the british medical association has warned the nhs is under and unnecessary pressure after several hospital declared critical incidents in recent days. nhs england's chief strategy officer chris hopson blamed multiple factors including a lack of staff increase in both covid and flu patients and an 18% rise in a&e walk in recent weeks . nurses and walk in recent weeks. nurses and ambulance are planning to strike again in this month and yet downing street has claimed the nhs has all the money it needs. so with health sector in a worse state ever before and at funding impasse, i'm is it time to private ties the nhs. me know your views down gbnews.uk. tweet us at gb news and do vote the twitter poll. we'll bring you those results shortly. but to

debate this , i'm delighted to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome senior clinical lecturer at the university of exeter medical school, an old friend of mine, professor david strain and director of the brugge group, which is a thatcherite organisation. it's robert oulds. robert, should we privatise the nhs? absolutely it's time that the britain followed the example of countries in europe . even of countries in europe. even though we brexit did , we should though we brexit did, we should follow countries like germany which has more than half hospitals as private . it's still hospitals as private. it's still free of the point delivery. it's a multi payer system where of course the money comes from the taxpayer and through private insurance schemes . and there is insurance schemes. and there is choice in the system, there is competition there is the profession or input of people who know about procurement rather than the system we have in britain where we have, dare i say, under underqualified. in many cases , managers who can't many cases, managers who can't really handle the system. we

have doctors , nurses, other have doctors, nurses, other health professionals , surgeons health professionals, surgeons doing a great job, the nhs, but they're let down by the system because it's inefficient. so it's spending. i want because it's inefficient. so it's spending. i wan t £160 it's spending. i want £160 billion a year on health care in country. and of course it's not going to where it's needed because it's not managed properly , because it doesn't properly, because it doesn't have the professional expertise of . people who know about of. people who know about procurement, of. people who know about procurement , who know about procurement, who know about organisation who know about service delivery and organisation . and only those organisation. and only those skills come from the private sector . that's why we need sector. that's why we need privatisation and. i hear what you say, but very harmful heartfelt, heartfelt comments. but david strain is what robert is saying. keep the brilliant doctors and nurses who are the best of us, including your good. but turn the nhs into an efficient business which is accountable . it's a really accountable. it's a really interesting concept and actually the as it stands at the moment is a hugely efficient service .

is a hugely efficient service. if you look at the management of workers ratio in the nhs, it's at 2.2. if you compare that to any other industry in the country, it's about 9.4. if you compare it to the german system, which obviously is speaking of, they run it about 0.6% managers to actual workers . when we look to actual workers. when we look at the percentage of our gdp thatis at the percentage of our gdp that is invested , the national that is invested, the national health service, we use less of this country's compared to germany, which is the example that you give. and yet we give a health resources that are just as good as , those countries. the as good as, those countries. the problem we're facing at the moment is the input into the nhs just hasn't kept pace with the gdp up until 2008 we were running at about 4% around them. increase in expenditure which accounted their the ageing population , the different population, the different demographics and the different services we could provide since thousand and eight. that's

dropped to a about 1% investment, whereas other european countries have maintained that 4. and that's the reason that we're this crisis today . the reason that we're this crisis today. now i'm not saying the nhs require some sort of major investment , it also major investment, it also requires major modification. but in order to do this modification order to make an nhs for the 21st century, we need to invest in the services that we already have to make it more effective. but actually the efficiency , the but actually the efficiency, the ability to reach those patients most in need is still there. it's just that investment required to bring it up to scratch to today's 21st century needs. scratch to today's 21st century needs . robert olds the scratch to today's 21st century needs. robert olds the nhs is incredibly efficient . well, we incredibly efficient. well, we have a system in britain at the moment where course we have a massive long waiting list. everybody will know about. the seven hour waits are urgent care centres or a&e and. of course the difficulties of getting to a

gp really there are serious problems . gp really there are serious problems. the nhs, we gp really there are serious problems . the nhs, we know of problems. the nhs, we know of course the problems the nhs has suffered as a result of the lockdowns and the enormous that's been created and people not health care and the excess deaths which could indeed result from all of that. so some real problems facing the nhs, but it goes from crisis to crisis and there's two waiting lists that are too long and if there was more choice in the system, if there was more plurality, and that's what we've asking for, we talk , we're use the term talk, we're use the term privatisation, that's a trick what we ask is plurality and choice for patients and choice for managers and choice for those who can actually the opportunity to either like in france, choose to go to a public hospital or a private hospital . hospital or a private hospital. and it's still free at the point of delivery. and the private sector would be able to turn around, deliver services quickly and efficiently needed and there would be competition and the system would rise. that's how works in a country like france , works in a country like france, and we should follow their

example and give choice. and that would be a lot more efficient and that would be enabung efficient and that would be enabling people to get rid of the waiting lists, get things down and get people treated, which is surely what the nhs should be doing. strange. let me reiterate the doctors and the nurses , the security guards, the nurses, the security guards, the hospital porters . they're all hospital porters. they're all absolute heroes and it's a tough, tough job. i've been in a hospital last couple of days and it's amazing just how much goodwill there is, the long hours, brutal conditions . so hours, brutal conditions. so this is not about those in the frontline but the bottom line is that they nhs has been asleep at the wheel during an explosion in lifestyle related illnesses type two diabetes obesity . we cannot two diabetes obesity. we cannot continue to essentially pay people to have unhealthy lifestyles and of course the nhs went on strike two and a half years to become the national covid service . so it's signed covid service. so it's signed its own death warrant . it so you its own death warrant. it so you raise some really important

since the lack of investment in the nhs there's this lack of a full % real terms growth per full% real terms growth per annum we've gone from sticking plaster to sticking plaster to sticking plaster . i plaster to sticking plaster to sticking plaster. i am absolutely overwhelmed that robert is using the french example who actually invent, who invest 40% more of their into the health service in order to provide a service that is about the same . the nhs we are the same. the nhs we are considerably more efficient and what we need is that investment back into a position where. we start providing . david you're start providing. david you're wilfully blind about . the crisis wilfully blind about. the crisis you're talking about, the efficiency in the nhs, what about the massive backlogs that exist in terms of, as i mentioned the inability in some cases to even see a clinician and get treated in a reasonable amount of time? that doesn't mean there's not the will do so with the expertise. what is waste? what about the waste ? waste? what about the waste? indeed, the way it manages on six figure salaries? well, let

me do diversity officers. indeed the problem, one of the significant problems with the nhs is that if not spending money where it's needed have of course nhs trusts spending hundreds of thousands of pounds and diversity officers and really in a sense what they will do. they will often just move deckchair around essentially on on an organisation which is which is failing in many instances and just do management training and management alterations is to give the appearance that they make an improvement in efficiency when . improvement in efficiency when. actually the money which has increased massively the nhs since we've had more than a 350 million a week put since brexit put to in nhs, there's been massive increases spending a great deal of that before covid and then even after and it still hasn't actually resulted in improved what we actually is a system where we have a better managers, we need expertise at the moment. we have a system of

the moment. we have a system of the nhs is essentially the taxpayers giving money to the nhs, which essentially spending it in private . the 86% of nhs it in private. the 86% of nhs contracts for pharmacy which of course go to the private sector , the drugs, the beds, many of the items, they're all going into the private sector as it's bleeding money out, but it's not being helped in professional being helped in a professional way. that's what we need . way. and that's what we need. i've to say that i would i've got to say that i would have what i would have i would have what i would have i would have gone a full business. we are about the business of providing health in order to maintain the healthy population that we need to grow our gdp . it that we need to grow our gdp. it is not working to provide health and therefore contractors who come in to the nhs either going to be taking money away from the taxpayer or they are going leave it in the examples where private sector has taken over nhs , they sector has taken over nhs, they have universally given up those trusts giving those contracts and handed them back because they realised the only way we can provide health is at a cost to the taxpayer and. the purpose

is we provide health with generate a more healthy workforce which enables us to out and provide services to grow our gdp where you have private providers, they actually cost more to deliver the same of care by article in the lancet towards the end of last year demonstrated . very clearly that demonstrated. very clearly that for every private that takes on that role results in a product . that role results in a product. similarly 500 deaths access because of the what and why and i'm aware of that study and those partly partly some of the problems were caused by the changes that were brought in under andrew lansley, not his he was actually made to do it is health an argument health but that's an argument for day . part the for another day. part of the problems they actually problems is they actually created extra bureaucracy in those changes , an extra those changes, an extra bureaucracy over the management of those contracts involved in allowing private people to be analysing and managing and,

buying the contracts and professionally and efficiently is being done by people who are essentially not paid enough. and skilled and responding to layers and layers of bureaucracy. so there's a reason you're saying is we need to provide more money to administrators in order to those administrators in order to those administrators in order to get this service. right. we need professional. we need professional administrators . and professional administrators. and that can only be done through . that can only be done through. private hospitals, just like in germany, for instance. we'll have to wrap costs. i would have fewer managers, i'd have more top doctors . professor david top doctors. professor david strain, david, thank you for your valuable time and for sharing your thoughts. of course . david stratton is the professor of senior clinical medicine at the university of exeter school. thank you, david. and the director of the brugge group , robert olds. good to see group, robert olds. good to see you again, robert. what's your view? should we privatise the nhs? rob on twitter ? no, just nhs? rob on twitter? no, just make sure everyone who's treated can provide a british passport or national insurance number. we

could still treat nationals, but for a price supervisor on twitter says yes. i think unfair on those who choose private insurance and also have to pay insurance and also have to pay insurance beyond twitter. we should renationalise parts that are already private . stop are already private. stop outsourcing work to private companies, cut out the leeches and pay decent wages to the nhs teams. and the verdict is now in. had your say 45% of you think that we should privatise the nhs? 55% say we should not. the people have spoken . coming the people have spoken. coming up, should we let men be men in 2023? social commentator leah halpin wants this to be the year of the alpha male. she's tonight's outsider at 950. but first should we prevent trans doctors from providing intimate care to girls and women. father ted create graham linehan gives his take after the .

break welcome back. it might a new yean welcome back. it might a new year, but the trans is guaranteed to keep on raging 2023, not least with news that transgender nhs staff can now treat patients who specifically request same sex care for intimate procedures according to a letter seen by the policy exchange think tank north bristol nhs trust said it was unable guarantee patients would receive treatment . a clinician receive treatment. a clinician of the same sex if requested. it

also said that doctors and nurses involved in a patient's treatment did not need to disclose their sex to the trust . the letter was penned by the former chief executive, the trust evelyn barker in february of last year. well, joining me now, father ted and, it crowd creator and women's rights advocate, graham who went from tv to cancel culture victim for danng tv to cancel culture victim for daring to suggest that men aren't women . on twitter in aren't women. on twitter in 2020, wallace and graham , i'm 2020, wallace and graham, i'm pretty sure that history will judge you kindly, but can we get to basics of this? what are the practical implications of this issue ? intimate care? what's the issue? intimate care? what's the worst case scenario ? well, the worst case scenario? well, the worst case scenario? well, the worst case scenario? well, the worst case is that the worst case scenario is that you get someone who is very or disabled , unable to physically protect themselves from being placed in a position they don't want to be placed in. know there's the

thing about this is someone asked me outside is this how things were 25 years ago. the law hasn't changed. the only thing that's changed is stonewall developed a different interpreter of the law and, started introducing it to institutions all across the uk, including the nhs and the police force . so it's kind of like , you force. so it's kind of like, you know, i've said this before but a soft ideological coup has happened within these places that mean that the normal rules of engagement where you can ask for, if you ask a certain sex of a, of a, of a carer that will be respected. women can't depend on anymore, you know. so it's so could say so for example, it could say so for example, it could be like, you know, your mother or your sister or your daughter or granddaughter is involves girls as well. but an intimate medical examination in which in which possibly the patient is know wearing no clothes , being examined by a bar

clothes, being examined by a bar logical male that calls themselves a female. yes yes. because because a female patient can request that it's only a woman that sees them and that will not be granted. yes the patient can no longer be certain that. i'm sure for most, most of time you will get a female carer . but there's an element of ambiguity now around , the whole ambiguity now around, the whole question because of the confusion that stonewall have spread that make it very mean that female patients aren't a sure footing anymore . i mean, sure footing anymore. i mean, there's an extraordinary a while back of an autistic woman named claire damien i think actually she might be in the house of lords and she a female carer for, for a breast exam . and not for, for a breast exam. and not only did they observe the request a few or months later, she an official piece of nhs and. her own letter was quoted inside. they didn't tell her they were republishing . it was

they were republishing. it was quoted inside this document as an example of a letter from a bigoted . so even the request is bigoted. so even the request is now being up as problematic or hateful. you know . and there's hateful. you know. and there's absolutely nothing hateful about absolutely nothing hateful about a who could have been through god knows what like sexual assault or something along those lines, child abuse. there's absolutely nothing a cultural or religious issue . yeah, exactly. religious issue. yeah, exactly. that's the other might be. and the letters tell me that completely lost the plot. but it might be that a woman that doesn't want to have a gynecol examination from somebody that identifies as female, but that is a biological man. and at the heart of this , of course, you heart of this, of course, you know, transphobe , i would have know, transphobe, i would have thought that if somebody chooses identify different gender identify by a different gender and . stephen then now and they. stephen then now rebecca your libertarian like me. good luck to you. i'll you rebecca i'll know indulge in rebecca and i'll know indulge in in whatever you call it. i have a i have a rule if i won't, i

will not give female pronouns to misogyny that's my rule. and i won't observe their name. i won't. i won't do any of that stuff because much of trans activism is , is a kind of activism is, is a kind of a sadistic trolling of women that takes aim at their art, their livelihoods and their boundaries and their privacy and their dignity . i will respect that. dignity. i will respect that. that's all pronoun to that. even you support. what about, though? what you know, the people that feel that they're they're in the body and they change their name and they dress as a female. i mean, would you not acknowledge. yeah, that absolutely. if they weren't trolls and they weren't bullies. yes. and the thing is, you know, there are so many people in this fight who are just watching this , aghast at just watching this, aghast at what is being done, observe the world's most famous trans woman, caitlyn yeah. who said? and she's one of my heroes said that biological men themselves, women participating in female sport is

completely wrong and completely unfair . so completely wrong and completely unfair. so many in the trans community think this is madness, too. and this is gender ideology, which i guess is shorthand for it. is that it? is it to establish the idea that a is a woman or a woman is a man and that's like a biological scientific fact now. and that's what we've now got to accept. or what we've now got to accept. or what you're pushing back on. or to it another way, there is to put it another way, there is no biological basis for whether someone , a woman, which someone is a man, a woman, which is a kind of muddying of reality, that implications for the whole of yes. and it could be challenged by the rudimentary of gcse biology textbooks. yeah. given the that every cell in the bodyi given the that every cell in the body i understand has has a gender has a sex chromosome, a very fundamental though the takeover of our public institutions is particularly egregious . institutions is particularly egregious. it given the institutions is particularly egregious . it given the fact egregious. it given the fact that we're paying for this nonsense, particularly when it comes to the nhs. well, we put this probably come at it from a slightly different angle, you know, i've always been a card leftie and i've always said and

the nhs and the bbc over here have of to kind of have been kind of to kind of what i thought were the jewels in the crown of what england was capable. but gender, ideology completely corrupted. both organised actions. you know, the bbc is like to people lying to children about there being more than two sexes. the nhs is betraying women by by by not ensuring that they'll be comfortable at a time when they're at their most vulnerable . i had i had cancer at one point and you know the fear was so that you really clarity at all times . and that's what the all times. and that's what the nhs have taken female patients. they've taken clarity and they've taken the kind of, you know, one would expect to be , know, one would expect to be, you know, at a time when you're at most vulnerable to , to, to at most vulnerable to, to, to have trust in an institution like the nhs, there would be some degree of female safeguarding and this feels i mean in the worst case scenario as we start the conversation, it's almost like jemmy savile on roller skates, isn't it? i've

only got of seconds only got a couple of seconds left. and huge trouble only got a couple of seconds left. with and huge trouble only got a couple of seconds left. with liam. huge trouble only got a couple of seconds left. with liam. buta trouble only got a couple of seconds left. with liam. but is rouble only got a couple of seconds left. with liam. but is gender with with liam. but is gender ideology to stay? will look like dinosaurs in 20 years time? no it's untenable unfortunately, though , it looks like because though, it looks like because there's no adults the room because keir starmer won't get to defend people like j.k. and rosie duffield . it's going to rosie duffield. it's going to actually take tragedy before people realise how absurd this idea is. graham where can people find your brilliant articles on substack oh, i have a website called the glitter update, but i'm also back on twitter now. they own ban me, but of course one report back on twitter graham well actually what is your twitter handle cleaner? cleaner, and easy cleaner, nice and easy to remember highly recommend remember and we highly recommend it new year's it make your new year's resolution read the work of resolution to read the work of this fascinating man. and of course a comic genius as course he's a comic genius as well. thanks, well. don't you know? thanks, graham. coming could taking graham. coming up, could taking on become the will on the unions become the will prime minister rishi sunak's falklands moment my superstore panel will debate that in the media box at ten. but first,

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the internet . a feisty woman, the internet. a feisty woman, the brilliant leah halpern is tonight's outside outside . now tonight's outside outside. now in a world where so—called toxic has left many walking on eggshells , is it time we let men eggshells, is it time we let men be men in 2023, leah? certainly thinks so. heralding the new year with this hard hitting tweet that read the lack masculine role models is the real pandemic well, that assessment viral. it broke the internet sparking a flood of replies that supported her theory including some men who claimed being masculine was now a crime and. leah joins me now. hi, leah . hi, great to be here.

hi, leah. hi, great to be here. i didn't know i was britain's voice. yes. woman i like that. thank you. most certainly are. and i hope you're going to get me to man up in the course of this conversation, have we simply gone too far in trying to stamp out the bad apples stamp out the few bad apples amongst billion of men in amongst the billion of men in the world. yeah, absolutely. and i think really sad. we live in femme centric society whereby we have women raising young boys and essentially raising them in and essentially raising them in a way which raises them to be. so if a young boy competitive, if he's aggressive , if he's a if he's aggressive, if he's a little bit frustrated and he's fighting and he's wrestling, he's told that's bad. he's shamed for being himself and told that that's toxically masculine and. he shouldn't do that. now that is incredibly dangerous. we had the gillette advert a few years which shamed for the exact same thing , and i for the exact same thing, and i actually think that these traits so important, these competitive traits, this the traits of aggression and frustration, because this is what's necessary in order for a man to then

progress and become the man that he's supposed to be, whether it's to build a business, whether it's to build muscle and become big and strong just to win life, these are such win in life, these are such important traits. and unfortunately , taking those away unfortunately, taking those away shapes boys, which just being themselves, there's a reason why male suicide is three times higher than girls the united kingdom it's because every kingdom and it's because every time a man just is doing what men are supposed do, he's told that that's toxically masculine and he's shamed . well, that's and he's shamed. well, that's right. we've just been talking about trends, my view, about trends, which, in my view, laya is and erasing women , but laya is and erasing women, but men in their own way are being cancelled too. yeah men are being cancelled. and i think it's actually having a really bad adverse effect when men don't have the opportunity to be men, it leaves this space a space for then women to then have to get into that masculine energy and rise up and fulfil that space and women unhappiest . they're being men . they don't . they're being men. they don't like it. women also repulsed by effeminate men and are repulsed

by masculine women . and so by masculine women. and so they're just switching all the genders around and it's sad. it's ruining the male female dynamics. we're going to war with each other and think it's going to have very, very disastrous effects with years to come men in the seventies however, leah weren't great were they in the pub all day expecting the wife or girlfriend to do all the cooking and cleaning and raised the kids? wasn't there room for improvement among real men ? improvement among real men? yeah, i definitely think there's always for improvement. and you know, i don't necessarily even look at the fifties as as the path back time. i think things weren't good, you know, men were cheating their wives. men didn't appreciate the when she was raising children and raising the children and creating beautiful home. creating this beautiful home. and has swung so far and so pendulum has swung so far the other way in order to make up for this. but i think that we're getting to a point whereby we've far the way we we've gone so far the way we realise that that doesn't. and now at a point where men now we're at a point where men and women actually have this opportunity, appreciate

traditional gender roles. perhaps will start to move perhaps we will start to move back way, meet back the other way, meet somewhere middle, somewhere in the middle, and a man actually appreciate man will actually appreciate a woman is creating a woman who is creating a beautiful for him cleaning the house, making beautiful meals. and will really and the women will really appreciate is for appreciate how hard it is for the to go out every single the man to go out every single day and provide you know, he has stressed work. does he want stressed work. does he want stress at to home not and so i think it teaches this lesson and you know, overall, i could sort of get into why this might be the case and i think ultimately strong men are the backbone of society. i think it's men that go to war. it's the men fight. it's the men that protect the women and children. and when you feminise men and you don't have strong men think it's much easier for the government come in that ideology and in and push that ideology and indoctrinate the family . so indoctrinate the family. so that's sort of my analysis as to why that might be happening. amen to that. lay a great to have you on the show. leah, how and do check her out on twitter and do check her out on twitter a must read a very very compelling commentator and the author of undressing bitcoin

knows a thing or two about finance as well. lots more to could facing down the unions be sunak's falklands plus we can sing naughty songs . see you .

in two. it's 10:00. two. it's10:00. i'm dolan in for dan wootton as britain braces for the worst week of rail disruption 30 years could facing down the unions be rishi sunak's falklands moment and what does he need to do to see off the marxist barons ? i'll pull my marxist barons? i'll pull my superstar panel next. with me tonight, christine . john tonight, christine. john sargeant and rebecca reed with even a member of the house of lords urging the runaway royal to pipe down. is it time prince

harry for the right royal socket at fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie is on cancelled at 1045 as england rugby maro itoje tries to keep a swing low chariot alive despite a to its links to slavery should sports be allowed to sing songs that some offensive ? former mumford some offensive? former mumford and sons musician turned freedom fighter winston weighs in at 1020 and is a record number of people sign up for vg youri despite question marks over, the health and environmental benefits a plant based diet is veganism icon. i'll my panel's thoughts in the media buzz at 1030 plus more front page. it's hot off the press and first greatest britain on union of the year coming up to but first the news headlines with my greatest person aaron armstrong . yeah big

person aaron armstrong. yeah big shoes to fill as i married armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the secretary is blaming covid flu and the threat of strep a for the extra pressure being put on the nhs. his comments come amid mounting concern over the winter crisis, with more than a dozen nhs trusts ambulance services declaring critical incidents over the festive period. medical experts say up to 500 people are dying each week , a result of dying each week, a result of delays in urgent care . but steve delays in urgent care. but steve barclay says the government working to reduce the backlog , working to reduce the backlog, focusing the funding onto , the focusing the funding onto, the operations backlogs, for example , more diagnostic hubs in getting the surgical hubs that were rolling out, getting backlog from the pandemic , backlog from the pandemic, that's been the key priority . that's been the key priority. that's where we've surged additional funding . but we also additional funding. but we also recognise the big pressure that we're seeing play through in terms of ambulance handover is largely triggered by those who are fit to leave hospital but

delayed in doing so we need to feel that big capacity and that is often about having the right social care provision to do so . social care provision to do so. real passengers will face disruption for the rest of the week as a result of fresh strikes by the rmt union. roughly half of britain's railway lines are closed, with only a fifth of services running. many places, including most of scotland and wales, have no trains running at all. transport secretary harper says the government has offered a pay offer. the rmt maintains there's been no new proposal and is accusing the government of blocking an agreement . people blocking an agreement. people travelling to the uk from china will not have to self—isolate if they test positive for covid on arrival. the government says is designed to collect information in the absence of transparent coronavirus from chinese authorities . from thursday, authorities. from thursday, those flying to the uk from china will be required to show a negative covid test before boarding the plane . the boarding the plane. the disgraced former boss of ftec

sam bankman—fried has pleaded not guilty to multiple fraud charges following the collapse of his cryptocurrency exchange . of his cryptocurrency exchange. he's accused of stealing billions dollars from customers and investors to fund his hedge fund , buy property and make fund, buy property and make political donations. prosecutors say bankman—fried orchestrated one of the biggest financial frauds in american history. if convicted, he could face than 100 years in prison and of mourners said an emotional farewell to brazil's greatest sports man today as thousands paid their final respects to the footballing legend , pele. his footballing legend, pele. his coffin in a brazilian flag was carried through the streets of santos on, a firetruck to a private family funeral where pele was finally to rest. earlier, some 230,000 mourners, including the country's new president, filed past open casket to pay homage . the three casket to pay homage. the three time world cup winner , pele, time world cup winner, pele, died last week at the age of 82 after battling colon cancer . tv,

after battling colon cancer. tv, onune after battling colon cancer. tv, online and debate plus radio. this is gb news and now it is. back to mark on dan wootton tonight . tonight. my tonight. my thanks to who returns in an hours my thanks to who returns in an hour's time and tomorrow's news tonight in, our media buzz. hour's time and tomorrow's news tonight in, our media buzz . and tonight in, our media buzz. and let's kick off with a first look at tomorrow's front pages. and we begin with the eye newspaper. and here's they've got and that is a big story. uk hunts china's next covid very british health officials officials will test up to 2000 chinese nationals arriving at heathrow every day searching for any new variants as virus spreads out of control among china's 1.4 billion among china's1.4 billion population. so much for zero covid. and how about daily star

7 covid. and how about daily star ? as the nhs crumbles ? our ? as the nhs crumbles? our bashful prime minister is still nowhere to be seen . where's nowhere to be seen. where's rishi? readers urged to check sheds fridges in case . he's sheds fridges in case. he's trapped inside the uk. will funny enough that that's the topic. our next conversation. with me reacting to the big stories of day all my superstar panel writer broadcaster christine hamilton legendary political journalist and broadcaster and author. and after dinner speaker , after dinner speaker, entertainer, probably singer as well . and definitely dancer john well. and definitely dancer john sargeant and author and journalist rebecca reid . now the journalist rebecca reid. now the year got off to a wretched start for commuters today as britain entered worst week of rail disruption for 30 years, thanks to. striking workers , a walkout to. striking workers, a walkout of 40,000 rmt members caused four in five trains to be cancelled. in what the transport described as act of self—harm by unions. take a look . government

unions. take a look. government is going to continue to work really hard to try and bring the two sides together to get this resolved. i know how frustrating this is for commuters and the dangerisit this is for commuters and the danger is it puts people off the railways, which is a bit of self—harm on the part of the rail that haven't settled this dispute. what i think the government can do, make sure it was a fair and reasonable offer on the table which there is. facilitate those negotiations between employers , trade unions between employers, trade unions and. try and make sure we get this dispute for the travelling pubuc. this dispute for the travelling public . the rmt general public. the rmt general secretary mick lynch was back on the picket line today, but he's ready to sit down with the government , reach a settlement. government, reach a settlement. we want a resolution where ready and able to discuss with companies and the government whatever they want to put their own . we've been hearing the same own. we've been hearing the same stuff for six months or more that they want to facilitate a settlement where they've got prove that now they've got to change the equation . that's change the equation. that's being put to us in those talks. and we will look forward to if

that's if that comes true . prime that's if that comes true. prime minister rishi sunak is planning to unveil new anti strike laws this to help neuter the militant unions. these plans reportedly include allowing ministers to their own minimum service threshold and make it harder to call a strike by raising the vote for action from 40 to 50. but with sunak for a messy court battle to even get those laws through facing down the marxist union barons, be his falklands moment. christine hamilton, you've a book about great british battle axes. one figure that featured in your bestselling book was margaret thatcher. so could this be rishi sunak's falklands moment, his thatcher moment ? honestly, mark, thatcher moment? honestly, mark, if it was, this is serious. but i am laughing. the idea rishi sunak can ever approach margaret thatcher. first of all, she had charisma. she had conviction. she was a conviction . politics. she was a conviction. politics. the iron lady . she she was a conviction. politics. the iron lady. she had. she was a conviction. politics. the iron lady . she had. she she was a conviction. politics. the iron lady. she had. she had balls of steel . we really don't

balls of steel. we really don't know what mettle sunak is made of, to be honest . but i mean, of, to be honest. but i mean, this is crunch time with the unions. it's a game of chicken that they're playing mick lynch seems think he's the office seems to think he's the office gaga day. an gaga of his day. he's an honorary 1970s style trade unionist . it's whoever blinks unionist. it's whoever blinks first. and if the government first, they're finished. probably finished anyway. and if the government blinks first, we're all finished. i mean, we currently subsidise the railways to tune of about 1300 pounds to the tune of about 1300 pounds per person . i mean, the railways per person. i mean, the railways are deeply in debt. we cannot go on subsidising them more. they got tv during pandemic. well they did, but i don't think the pubuc they did, but i don't think the public are to support them in these strikes. i mean, i think these strikes. i mean, i think the support we're heading for a general strike, we've almost got it. and don't tell me that these are not coordinated . we've got are not coordinated. we've got everybody will be out on strike shortly. and i think the public sympathy will be much greater towards . the nhs sympathy will be much greater towards. the nhs and it is towards. the nhs and it is towards the railways. i mean we will see, but the government

have got to stand firm otherwise just inflationary wage just have inflationary wage agreements going on and on and on and nobody wins. we all lose, you know. mark, i think that the general public think that this country, they realise what a bad state this country is in. they don't realise that we're living on borrowed money, we're living on borrowed money, we're living on borrowed money, we're living on borrowed time and we are in a hell of an economic mess. on borrowed time and we are in a hell of an economic mess . what hell of an economic mess. what we are, and you're absolutely right, the rishi sunak is on. we can't characterise him as mrs. thatcher mark to just yet, but this is his opportunity cast himself in that mould . i mean, himself in that mould. i mean, he's certainly got the work ethic, the attention to detail. i wonder whether underestimating him. well the proof is in the pudding. i mean , where has he pudding. i mean, where has he been all these months? why we had his i don't know what he called it wasn't a party political broadcast. it was some sort the nation. sort of address to the nation. he the other in the form of he did the other in the form of a question and answer. it was so underwhelming. this man is in charge a country, for charge of a country, for heaven's isn't what heaven's sake. isn't that what he's. he's busy running the country to sort out the

country trying to sort out the migrant crisis, northern migrant crisis, get the northern ireland protocol all resolved and potentially making a plan to tackle the unions . there's a tackle the unions. there's a happy medium. i quite agree. we don't necessarily want somebody who's front doing who's out front and doing nothing behind. so you're suggesting like swan suggesting that he's like swan serenely on the water. he's paddung serenely on the water. he's paddling hard underneath. well, fairly soon we're going to need some proof of that. john sargeant what do you make of rishi sunak's strategy when it comes unions now? i think comes to the unions now? i think got time the great problem got to time is the great problem they've to try and slow down they've got to try and slow down they've got to try and slow down the whole idea so they reach some kind of agreement it won't be victory but it does mean that on both they've got to accept that it isn't going to be a victory . so it's very important victory. so it's very important for the striking rail workers to realise that they're going nowhere . and it's also extremely nowhere. and it's also extremely important for the government to think that they can win the kind falklands because they can't, not in these circumstances . but not in these circumstances. but timing is everything when it comes to an industrial dispute

offers that you make to early and are then rejected means you have to start the whole all over again. you give the impression to the strikers that they're going nowhere . if you start going nowhere. if you start trickling out little offers. i'm actually i'll i'll see you next week we'll do a bit more on this forget it the government have got to appear implacable until they break and of course they will break at some point i suspect they will try and hold . suspect they will try and hold. so it's to do with the next pay round because these pay that they go on about, round because these pay that they go on about , they're quite they go on about, they're quite good looking . they're not very good looking. they're not very good looking. they're not very good looking. they're not very good looking forward. so if can get them to a position where in april they are looking back , april they are looking back, they could be remarkably generous . people say, oh my generous. people say, oh my goodness me , but you hid behind goodness me, but you hid behind the pay bodies start with and now stuck with the fact they're recommending quite increases and then the government yes we'll accept them this what happened

before you know the seventies which i covered as a reporter you always got this sort of sequence of events but where you that you one point you appear to be whatever happens we must do this and then you use that because the time changes everything and another month or so it will not be much fun for people strike. it really isn't well then horrible news and the publishers losing a lot of money. the joe inch isn't losing . you lose more money. you lose more money if you didn't. if you know if you think you can just give in you would end up losing far money. no but you've got to make the strike because giving in or government giving in in or the government giving in both to give in both have got to give it in their own way. we've got to make deal their own way. we've got to make deal. the deal has got to come at right moment. it's not at the right moment. it's not right the moment. it really right at the moment. it really isn't yes too early. yes. isn't right? yes too early. yes. now, you've reported in great depth great analysis now, you've reported in great depth multi great analysis now, you've reported in great depth multi blue reat analysis now, you've reported in great depth multi blue prime|alysis about multi blue prime ministers. margaret and beyond this is a test of rishi sunak strategically his judgement. the

test of his judgement and this this poker game that he's playing with the union. absolutely. but it's also a test of his character and whether he's got those balls of steel or what do you suspect he has them? i think he does, yeah. because he is really up against it. it's not on me. he doesn't have to choose very many alternate . choose very many alternate. there aren't many. there really give in to early and everyone will then run over you . so will then run over you. so i mean, you just you then the whole pay row will then collapse and you think, god, what was all that about to that side? it would be to big. so you've got to forget he can't. he's only got two options he can i if gives in that's a disaster he's got to fudge it at some point just a question of when does he do it? and it's a potential easy win if he does get this right because he will look strong and dynamic. easy win, but. dynamic. not an easy win, but. but policy of the danger of giving in is would so his position that that is far worse than some fudge. well he can't in because everybody else will

then at the top so he won't get one after another potentially an easy win if you consider that his is keir starmer who in the pockets of the union barons . his is keir starmer who in the pockets of the union barons. i'm not i'm not sure in the pocket the union barons is a unions bankrolling the labor party to a degree. i think that has always been an important and strong relationship between the unions and leader of the labour party . and leader of the labour party. but can labour be tough with the unions ? they're being bankrolled unions? they're being bankrolled by them. i don't know. it will be very interesting to see when they win the election, they win the next election, which i think is almost certainly what's going to happen. hope that keir happen. i hope that keir starmer, i mean very, starmer, i mean he's a very, very sensible man. i'm saying he's most charismatic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's evernost charismatic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's ever lived,harismatic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's ever lived, butsmatic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's ever lived, but inatic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's ever lived, but i doic person very sensible man. i'm saying he's ever lived, but i do think;on he's ever lived, but i do think he's ever lived, but i do think he's pair of hands and he's a safe pair of hands and he's a safe pair of hands and he's sensible, grown up and he's a sensible, grown up and think probably think he will have probably given that. what given some thought to that. what i'm saying at the moment is the lumping together of all the unions the strikes. and unions and all the strikes. and i i think they i that's a mistake. i think they should taken. that should be taken. i think that the railways the moment all the railways at the moment all that digging their own grave because automation coming and

people this and people will remember this and they people they are inconveniencing people and have the goodwill and they don't have the goodwill that the people who work in that do the people who work in medicine what have been running on fumes years and they just went through a whole pandemic whereas people who worked on trains had a quieter more peaceful job during the pandemic. therefore it's not going to be a great moment for, as say, not to upset a lot as you say, not to upset a lot of nurses. but it might be a good moment the general good moment in the general pubuc good moment in the general public perception stand to public perception to stand up to mick lynch and his ilk. just pr is really now, and i think that's the issue saying for the voice, i think pr is wobbling. i think because people are enthusiastic about strikes and we've all seen billy elliot until , we've all seen billy elliot until, you're standing on a platform , you're really cold and platform, you're really cold and it's january and you can't get to work , etc, etc. i think the to work, etc, etc. i think the difference is i've in hospital with my baby recently , in and with my baby recently, in and out. she's a baby. she's always going to hospital. and i've seen how hard people work to keep it going . and i'm not sure that going. and i'm not sure that you've got the same sense of enormous goodwill from rail workers, you know. i mean , don't

workers, you know. i mean, don't go so have to say also the rail workers are causing massive knock on adverse effects to, for example, the hospitality sector and the retail industry. i mean, the shop people couldn't get to the shop people couldn't get to the shops , the run up to the shops, the run up to christmas and look at the number of restaurants, know of restaurants, i don't know quite but the number quite the figure, but the number of places who of restaurant places who had christmas cancelled and black cab drivers , it was hibernating. cab drivers, it was hibernating. it was the timing . those strikes it was the timing. those strikes was churlish, wasn't what cruel? it was cruel. well, it was the people's selfish. it was also their own thing for some change. it was was a power it was it was it was a power move from if if i if i move from him. if were if i if i were in his union, i'd be pleased by it. but as rail user, i would feel less please. it doesn't make you personally, though, when and though, does it, when you and i think i think that that makes it harder for them. again just a question timing. because question of timing. keep because people that people are going to realise that whatever happens , rail fares are whatever happens, rail fares are going up sharply. they're going to go up sharply. they're already being announced that they're to go up, that they're going to go up, that will in on people. you see, will wear in on people. you see, it's the mistake. people often when they look at these

situations they think situations is they think sort of static. they're this, they're that and so then this , that and so on. then this, whereas all the whereas it's changing all the time every week that goes by, people are more thinking, yeah , people are more thinking, yeah, but they're rather inefficient aren't they, in the railway industry and i think why they need all these people are doing maintenance jobs, why they need people. very rarely people. i'm very, very rarely called to give rashid my opinions but why he's a me opinions but why he's a cool me i would girl logic which i would use my girl logic which is enemies enemy is my friend is my enemies enemy is my friend and i say let's be really and i would say let's be really nice. nurses isn't really mean to the railway workers and that way this sense of way you split this sense of general all of general solidarity for all of the unions. i necessarily agree with that's what i would with it, but that's what i would do. should talk to what do. you should talk to what people need. the railways. more people need. the railways. more people from home. people are working from home. the average now, they've the average commute now, they've been the railway is of been put off the railway is of course they well, i mean, course they have. well, i mean, i to come by car but i had to come here by car but trust a rose. and even trust isn't a rose. and even when you do pay a fortune to the railways. you still can't get a seat. and i've always wanted to say me seconds . if he say this. give me seconds. if he handles it badly, could the unions derail government? oh

don't think. i don't think they're powerful to do that. no. and mean the big difference in the 1970s and where the issue was so critical was hold on a moment, who's governing in the country . that was the issue that country. that was the issue that ted heath put to the electorate. people saying that now people don't think the unions are running the country. they think a people very cross a lot of people are very cross going go on strike for which going to go on strike for which many people sympathy for. i many people have sympathy for. i can that . but the can understand that. but the idea that sort of british soon got to they must compromise with these union barons, whatever you want to call them. no, no, no. he's not under that pressure is under pressure very from under pressure very much from the particularly within the side, particularly within his own party as christina his own party from as christina says, you know, don't give in to this he's only got a short time the next election and if he loses this one well that's it people particularly on the on conservative benches would just think this is it's all over. there you go well could facing down the unions be red meat to disillusion conservative voters.

speaking of which as record number of people sign up to be , number of people sign up to be, despite question marks over the health and environmental benefits of , a plant based diet benefits of, a plant based diet is veganism a big con. my superstore panel returned to answer that in media buzz at 1030. but first, as england rugby star maro itoje tries to keep iconic swing low alive despite , a backlash should despite, a backlash should sports fans allowed to sing songs that are deemed offensive. the mumford and sons musician turned freedom fighter winston marshall is .

next if we don't reject masks , they if we don't reject masks, they will be with us forever . that will be with us forever. that was the topic of my daily digest monologue, which i'm delighted . monologue, which i'm delighted. say that page from digital team has crafted into eexcellent has crafted into an excellent video. you can catch now on twitter at gb news and well done page. he's one of our best people working from home tonight can be done. now english rugby fans have come under increasing fire in recent times for their rendition . swing low, sweet , rendition. swing low, sweet, with even the rugby football union attempting to phase it out. the 19 century lyrics were by indigenous american and liberated slave wallace willis . liberated slave wallace willis. and critics argue it's for modern sport fans to trivialise

the hellish experience of slaves in america. rugby star morrow , a in america. rugby star morrow, a tokyo, of course, england rugby had previously come out to the song last summer , but seemed to song last summer, but seemed to have seen sense a bbc radio four appearance yesterday . first of appearance yesterday. first of all, i don't think anyone at twickenham is singing that song out of malice . most people sing out of malice. most people sing that song to support their teams . the poor english rugby. i'm not to sit here and tell people what they should or shouldn't . i what they should or shouldn't. i think everyone has , the choice think everyone has, the choice to make up their mind on that matter. this is one for individuals to make their mind up . on. well i'm delighted to be up. on. well i'm delighted to be joined by musician former mumford and sons guitarist winston marsh . winston, great to winston marsh. winston, great to have you on the show. is wrong to demonise these of the past . to demonise these of the past. mark thanks for having me on.

yes, of course it is . this is a yes, of course it is. this is a ridiculous story. i was kind of comical to even comment this. so for a start maro, todd seems like a very nice bloke and notes . he doesn't think anyone's singing in malice. well, actually, it takes quite some mental gymnastics to really argue this is this song is sung in malice as you note this song written in 1865, a song about the underground railroad in america where slaves tried to find their freedom . a it's find their freedom. a it's a mournful song in in the face of one of the most horrific injustices we've known and but it's a hopeful song and why did england rugby fans start singing the song ? because in 1987, that the song? because in 1987, that was a star player called . martin was a star player called. martin of fire , whose nickname because of fire, whose nickname because he was so fast and his surname was a fire. martin chariots of

fire . so they found a song that fire. so they found a song that had the word chariots in swing low, sweet chariot. it's song of praise, an endearing for that player. so apparently some people find this song is think the song is being sung in malice . well, obviously it's not why is it actually if it's not malice . the problem what the malice. the problem what the real problem is this idea of cultural a appropriation. when did the rugby football union start complaining about this? it was after the george floyd murder in june 2020, when everything was combed over to find something . and of course, find something. and of course, if you to find something offensive in something , you can offensive in something, you can find it anywhere . you look. so find it anywhere. you look. so they found it in this song? yes one man's cultural appropriation is another man's cultural celebration . look, i'm a banjo . celebration. look, i'm a banjo. now, where did the banjo come from? well, actually, the banjo

exist. if it weren't for the slave trade. it didn't exist before . africans were deport it before. africans were deport it and moved in that horrendous trade to the caribbean . then trade to the caribbean. then after a long period of time . after a long period of time. when they eventually given spare time. they they built the bamboo banjo from their memories of the instruments that existed in africa . but it didn't exist africa. but it didn't exist then. now, does that mean i can't play the banjo . and does can't play the banjo. and does that mean that billy connolly started his career as a banjo player with gerry rafferty in the humble bum's before into comedy? steve martin, the comedian, is a great banjo . now, comedian, is a great banjo. now, if we're going to talk about appropriation, rugby was invented in england and if cultural appropriation is the problem, then everyone else apart from english people, should stop playing rugby because that be cultural appropriation. it's insanity. yes. maybe we should cancel the beatles for being inspired by chuck berry , for god sakes. chuck berry, for god sakes. listen winston we've seen songs like brown effectively being

banned with the rolling stones, saying they'll never play that song live again because the lyrics deal with the issue of black women being exploited by slavery banning songs is progress . well i certainly don't progress. well i certainly don't think so. i mean , was another think so. i mean, was another political regime that banned the song swing low chariot in 1939? it was the regime, and they banned swing low sweet chariot because it was a song of for. hope african american, african—americans and of course, they were racist regime. and that's the only precedent we're following here, it seems definitely now. winston, do you think that with what we've there from mario that there's now some push back to some of this woke stuff do . you think that 2023 stuff do. you think that 2023 might be the year that woke ideology, censorship cancel culture begins end. well we've

all had enough it's just a joke. it's just so silly. we don't we want to sing songs not. all this extra baggage just it's been placed on top of it. it's a load of nonsense. and i think everyone's had enough. well, definitely. i mean, if you were in the rolling, you've been in one of the world's top bands. i mean, would you lobby ? the mean, would you lobby? the stones continue to play stones should continue to play brown sugar because there are millions of people of colour for the last few decades that have listened to that song. they've dance to it. they probably made love to it and it might be many people's favourite song. but now we'll never hear it live again. look, the rolling stones do what they want free speech also means they want free speech also means the freedom to not do things if they choose not to, but if i'm not allowed to listen to that, that's another thing altogether . that's where the line is to be . and when the case this this rugby thing, it's they're telling fans not to sing the

song. and that's and that's where the problem is. you can't tell people what to say and say maybe if people, individuals as maroto jay suggests, if individuals say they don't want to sing a song. fair enough. but you cannot start telling people what they can . can't say speak, what they can. can't say speak, hean what they can. can't say speak, hear, or sing. definitely and of course, the debate you've raised very intelligent early is that actually this song may not even be offensive if you place it in historical context , just like historical context, just like the fairytale of new york contains the f—word in relation to gay people. but this is sung one of the characters in the song a scoundrel. so it's in contact therefore probably not offensive , just offensive, just a characterisation of scoundrel, but isn't the point about great all that at times it can offend . it will offend and that's okay to. well think great guy ought to. well think great guy ought to offend sometimes i mean it

depends you mean by offend as i said earlier you can find anything offensive, but then you can you start going into the individual behaviour each artist. well i'm going to stop listening to gary glitter. artist. well i'm going to stop listening to gary glitter . we're listening to gary glitter. we're going to stop listening to kanye west because of the individual things they say. well, if you look offence, whether in the lyrics, whether it's in the behave here of the artists, you will 100% succeed in finding a reason not to like all to a song or piece of art that's we're humans, we're . fallible we all humans, we're. fallible we all have faults and we all make mistakes and so by this kind of measure, this progressive idea , measure, this progressive idea, everything has to be a certain and crystal clean and politically , it's just it politically, it's just it destroy and but as i think as a

push , i think no one buys it push, i think no one buys it anymore. here's hoping we are tired of this woke b.s. if you are, then why don't you check out winston's brilliant podcast 7 out winston's brilliant podcast ? it's called marshall matters available from all good platforms the way you get your podcasts and it's a much listen to offering and check out winston on twitter. mr. win marshall so lovely to catch up speaksin marshall so lovely to catch up speaks in brilliant stuff there you go winston marshall by the rock god as well coming up with even a member of the house of lords urging the runway royal to down. is it time for, prince harry to put a right royal sock in it? fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie gives his blistering verdict in on cancel the 1045. but first as record numbers sign up to veganuary making january more miserable for themselves is a big con by superstar panel. we're ted and we've got more front pages in the media buzz see you shortly .

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broadcaster christine hamilton , broadcaster christine hamilton, legendary political journalist john sage and best selling author writer rebecca reid . now, author writer rebecca reid. now, this year marks 10th anniversary of veganuary , the month long of veganuary, the month long pledge to reject meat and other animal products such cheese, eggs, all the good , basically. eggs, all the good, basically. and in 2023, more people than are reportedly taking the plunge with a new sign up every point 4 seconds. i'm amazed . i've got seconds. i'm amazed. i've got the energy . this is all the energy. this is all according to the charity that it but have these poor ravenous souls been fed a lie? is veganism really for you and the planet as claimed plant based protagonists ? cattle and sheep? protagonists? cattle and sheep? account for as little as 3.7% of uk emissions when agricultural methods that help remove carbon from the atmosphere are taken into account. as for so—called health benefits, jane buxton , health benefits, jane buxton, author of the great plant based con , told the telegraph that con, told the telegraph that plant based diets provide inferior quality and a

deficiency in important such as iron three and vitamin a. yet are abundant in potentially compounds . are abundant in potentially compounds. but with are abundant in potentially compounds . but with the fake compounds. but with the fake meat market expected worth more tha n £25 billion. that's right, than £25 billion. that's right, 5 billion by 2026. don't expect the establishment or the food industry to abandon their a.b. brainwashing anytime soon. so rebecca read plant based. i'm not based, but i do try to eat less. apparently the average person in the uk will consume meat or a meat derived on average three times a day, which insane. the main issue is that we eat too much of some things and not enough others , and we and not enough others, and we don't eat seasonally. so really it's fine to eat meat . but you it's fine to eat meat. but you should be trying to buy meat from a butcher and you should be transported by good quality meat. also not just like the prime beef bits , the things that prime beef bits, the things that are less sexy. yeah learn are a bit less sexy. yeah learn to it properly and then use

to cook it properly and then use all of animals. if you roast chicken, then make stock that makes soup and make multiple meals from one animal. that's a really sensible to consume meat. the issue is that we don't really properly in this country. lots of how to so it's not lots of how to cook. so it's not you should not meat at all, you should not eat meat at all, but should for almost of but you should for almost all of us eating less. us should be eating less. i think we're all going round to rebecca's, aren't we? and i'm in complete agreement with her because all because obviously got all the right know i was right ideas. and i know i was watching the attenborough film the other night, the thousand planet , and you the other night, the thousand planet, and you just think, gosh we're all animals, aren't we? we're all so much part of that sort of food chain . and the idea sort of food chain. and the idea that even the hobbyist lovely looking animals are busy ready to smile and bite and eat and each other. and so on, and you feel as very deep as that . and feel as very deep as that. and the idea that you simply buy matter of an argument. oh, you know what? i think we ought to kill animals. i know. yes attractive. no, don't do that. but then. when you think of the history of man. yeah. and you

think, god, it's so part. oh it been for millennia a part our lives part of how we've and the idea that casually honour on you might give it up in january but. i'm not surprised that people don't creep in june and july and think i'm not sure i like barbecues so john hasn't it served us quite well millennia and all big concerns about a plant based diet. first of all the agricultural argument supposedly meat is bad for the planet. but what about vast crop agriculture from the production of soy , corn and weeds ? i think of soy, corn and weeds? i think people don't realise a lot of the all the cattle and the sheep are only there because we eat them. so i mean, it's not about who owes you somehow they would be there as well and we would be there and we living sort of happy harmony with them. and you think, actually this isn't think, well, actually this isn't it's not a realistic of how they or we live and the effect on the environment . what would britain environment. what would britain look like with no sheep. no cattle. no there's no that that

somehow we'd be purer and we'd be better people . it doesn't be better people. it doesn't ring with that. especially lambs that graze on territory that would be uninhabitable for and we can't eat grass . yeah. and we can't eat grass. yeah. and you think there would be no we know this and wouldn't it be lovely and would be quite big and we'd be hungry. wouldn't kristie. now i've heard that neil's a big fan of your full rib. tell me more . well, what rib. tell me more. well, what i object to is vegan . i mean, my object to is vegan. i mean, my motto , is that i eat what i like motto, is that i eat what i like and i let food fight it out inside me, which was mark twain's motto. and that's that's the way i operate. rebecca is absolutely right. i mean, people do eat meat four times a day. that that's crazy and i think that's over the top. but if you to be vegan and go off and do but all these people doing the garden apparently 84% of garden marie apparently 84% of people take out veganism people who take out veganism don't with now, don't continue with it. now, that's obviously very loose percentage because how do you know, etcetera? but are various reasons why people are vegans

mean they're they're vegans for ethical vegan ethical reasons they're vegan for environment reasons and for health reasons and some are vegan for reasons. so, you know, if people if people want to eschew all the wonder, of course, of life like and dairy and goodness knows what but that then welcome but again this business using all the animal business of using all the animal i mean i've spent quite a long time after christmas getting every drop of meat off the every last drop of meat off the turkey boiling it down into stock, making out of all the bits and bobs that were leftover. and of course, this the real problem is food waste . the real problem is food waste. and frankly , people are not and frankly, people are not taught how to cook and they're not taught how to deal with what's left over. when you've taken the i think also people have real desire to divorce have this real desire to divorce meat an animal so i know meat from an animal so i know lots of people who will say oh i can't eat it if it's got bones in it, i can't eat it if well then you shouldn't meat. then you shouldn't eat meat. should eating meat if should only be eating meat if actually you can deal with actually if you can deal with the fact that it did come an animal and you be animal and you should be handung animal and you should be handling it and you should be respecting that was respecting the fact that was once alive. well, weren't

once alive. well, people weren't people happily eat people who will happily eat chicken, them with chicken, present them with rabbit, i'm rabbit, which as far as i'm concerned, free because our concerned, it's free because our neighbours goodness neighbours rabbits and goodness knows eat it knows what, they won't eat it because don't. because because i don't. why? because it's not. it's hypocrisy. and i didn't eat horse. so i mean, you can still not from a horse can sit still not from a horse horse. often scepticism in horse. i've often scepticism in relation to the environmental case for based because oh, i'm not such as the phone is of the reasons on pesticides and fertilisers and there's some concern about much topsoil we've got left which as john mentioned, is helped by cows and sheep poo. and we on it absolutely preserves topsoil. but briefly the medical case the scientific case for a vegan based diet doesn't. great. i know. i mean, anecdotally can talk about, you know, vegan that are always having naps and stuff but a recent study that vegan children are about an inch shorter than kids on a meat based look and you know how do you that there. well this was a man who carried out would have been very long term wouldn't it

this is this was based upon statistic i think it was i think it was a great ormond street hospital where you need ideally get a child who would have know how live you've to how to live there. you've got to then reproduce exact . so he then reproduce the exact. so he is a child that was a vegan. a child. it wasn't well, child. it wasn't vegan. well, there's to measure to there's no way to measure to those i know personally those who i know personally strapping lads would be strapping lads would would be anything they are. if anything like what they are. if they enjoyed they hadn't enjoyed all those rib suggest, though, rib eyes. can i suggest, though, christine, a look at this christine, take a look at this briefly. all brilliant senior producer chris chris eastwood is a vegan . do you want to just a vegan. do you want to just cast your verdict on on chris? well i think he's quite a good advert, isn't rebecca. i think sorry we just clarify it is perfectly possible be a non malnourished vegan but. perfectly possible be a non malnourished vegan but . also malnourished vegan but. also think about what you eat. look at look at those kind of eyes and that rich lustrous and look at that rich lustrous hair. kristie, you consider hair. kristie, did you consider this nobody saying that this smell. nobody saying that all beacons malnourished. i all beacons of malnourished. i wonder, take it, if you wonder, did take it, if you will, if he takes any of supplements. but no, he doesn't do generally agreed as do it he generally agreed as i it by the medical profession that you do not get enough of

all of it. well, there you go. well, look, i you something. i know for a fact that chris eastwood gets plenty of everything he needs and especially working alongside dan wootton, who's back on monday well done chris. great show tonight . well done chris. great show tonight. coming up, the power is in my hands. the first greatest britain the jackass of britain in the union jackass of 2023. panel make their 2023. my panel make their nominations but next, is it time for harry to put it right royal? saucony fleet street legend calvin .

next it's next wsfime next it's time now for on cancelled cancelled wear britain's top commentators speak out on controversial issues without the fear of the cancel sweeping the rest of the media. prince harry's moan a thon shows . no harry's moan a thon shows. no signs of slowing with another ranting royal stating in another interview that he's had enough

and he wants his family back. take a listen. it never needed to be this way. the leaking and the planting. i want a family , the planting. i want a family, not an institution. they feel as though it's better to keep us somehow as the villains they've shown absolutely no willingness to reconcile . i would like to to reconcile. i would like to get my father back. i would like to have my brother back . harry to have my brother back. harry to have my brother back. harry to be forgetting it was him who walked away from his family and his country in the first place before going on to trash them at any opportunity. see, after a sit down with oprah . a six hour sit down with oprah. a six hour netflix and a memoir. brits have heard more than enough from the sussexes and now even a member of the house of lords mep and northern irish assembly member lord kilkenny has been to breaking point, tweeting would someone please tell harry, shut up? well, one man who agrees with that sentiment is street icon kelvin . kelvin is it time icon kelvin. kelvin is it time that prince harry put a right royal sock in it ? well, i think

royal sock in it? well, i think the issue is that you can see my mike there. sorry about that. the issue really , i'd love him the issue really, i'd love him to shut up , the issue really, i'd love him to shut up, but he was the issue really, i'd love him to shut up , but he was never to shut up, but he was never going to shut up. why because somebody is probably paid in $2 million or possibly more for the. and therefore he needs the pubuchyin the. and therefore he needs the publicity in order to sell the book.the publicity in order to sell the book. the book won't sell particularly but the but the marketing will be great for him especially in the united states . my issue is with guy you interviewed there. now bradby says in his wikipedia or is written in his wikipedia that he is a journalist. well, when it comes to interviewing prince harry. he's not a journalist. it's always alex. how are harry? how is it going ? has the mental how is it going? has the mental health have you heard about my mental health? have you heard about that ? i'm right. so he about that? i'm right. so he gets paid what? he gets paid by itv. doesn't he ask him some serious questions ? why did you serious questions? why did you do it ? why on serious questions? why did you do it? why on earth did you

debunk this? why are you coming on this television station to? attack us. why do you think more than half of your average , you than half of your average, you know, nation, the united kingdom doesn't want you to be the duke of sussex anymore, and he doesn't. the duchess of sussex at any price. where are those questions? where they. they never happened. and don't happen. and yet. and yet piers morgan gets fired . right. but morgan gets fired. right. but for being hostile to meghan the way to get on the itv and the way to get on the itv and the way to get on the itv and the way to get on in conventional television, with the exception with the unique exception, by the way, of is actually is actually to bow to patsy questions to members of the royal family honestly bradby is a complete disgrace . to be a complete disgrace. to be honest with you and i have idea why itv keep wheeling out these guys to ask easy questions what

they should get. dan wootton to ask the question. now you're talking a proper journalist, talking a properjournalist, kelvin . speaking of which, if kelvin. speaking of which, if you were still at the helm of a national newspaper, would you be treating harry at the moment? i'd be poor. there wouldn't be a pocket big enough to pull the mad over him. it would be getting whole nine yards. he's a disgrace it. what about his own family ? what's the point of family? what's the point of going on national television? and by on your own brother. and also, i understand it in spare. he even gives a whack to the sister in law and his dad doesn't come out too well. that is the easiest thing in the world to do. every family family has issues . and the great thing has issues. and the great thing about the royal family for literally decades is that virtually it was going on all the time. but only ever got snippets . the time. but only ever got snippets. diana wasn't holding press conferences where she did it. she did it once . but outside it. she did it once. but outside that she kept by and large. and

by the way, she then the royal family. harry wants it both ways. he wants the title. he wants the money. he wants the 14 bathrooms house in, california. and the only way he can get it is keep pressing on his family. he's a disgrace . world class he's a disgrace. world class commentary from fleet street legend . calvin mackenzie speaks legend. calvin mackenzie speaks in calvin . brilliant stuff. he's in calvin. brilliant stuff. he's not pulling his . and he never not pulling his. and he never has done . fascinating stuff. has done. fascinating stuff. a big reaction on email to this, but it's time now to reveal today's britain and union jack has . yes, indeed with me to has. yes, indeed with me to reveal that is my superstar. we've got christine hamilton sargeant , rebecca reid . sargeant, rebecca reid. christine, your greatest britain. well, my greatest plural are everybody who was refusing to give up anything january and who is resolutely refusing to make any new year's resolution that they're going to immediately break. amen to that. they don't work . john sargeant, they don't work. john sargeant, your greatest britain it's an

honorary one, martin and i have a little over and her openness about her difficulties with canceri about her difficulties with cancer i think it's particularly point in for someone who's a great sporting star and a great athlete to admit that her body is giving up and for her to do so with such a sort of sense of optimism and it's not so bad i think being absolutely marvellous huge dignity. think being absolutely marvellous huge dignity . rebecca marvellous huge dignity. rebecca reed briefly your greatest pele greatest footballer all time and also by all accounts, a very, very nice man . well, i love very nice man. well, i love pele, but i'm going to agree with john, i'm going to give to martina navratilova. and we wish her a speedy recovery from two types of cancer. what a hero she . okay. and how about your union jackass? do your worst, christine. well, i'm sorry to be repetitive, because i've nominated him before, but prince harry. yep. say no more and you don't even need a reason on my watch, john. sergeant i'd like to choose john stonehouse. those

you? oh, yes. a fictional . you you? oh, yes. a fictional. you know, sarah is on here and we'll know, sarah is on here and we'll know what a bounder he. gosh yeah. he managed betray his country. his wife his friends and the people for the first in and the people for the first in a long line of dodgy mps. john, what a great nomination . and what a great nomination. and rebecca, briefly your union jack rishi sunak reneging on the childcare that we were supposed to be getting on. well not to. i do like rishi, but i'll give you rishi sunak because all about the mums and dads. thanks for watching. we're back tomorrow .

at nine. hello there. i'm on armstrong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister will set out plan to ensure all pupils in england will study some form of maths until the age of 18. ritchie will set out his priorities for the coming year. include an ambition to combat high rates of innumeracy . ambition to combat high rates of innumeracy. he'll do that tomorrow. the uk remains one of the only countries in the world that doesn't require children to study some form maths up to the age of 18. however, it's understood that not entail making maths a—level compulsory for all six year olds. making maths a—level compulsory for all six year olds . the for all six year olds. the health secretary is blaming covid flu and the threat of strep a for the extra pressure being put on the nhs. his comments come amid mounting

concern over the winter crisis