very good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news and a very happy new year for me. the kids are back at school. thank god the decorations are at least in boxes waiting to go back in the loft and we're revived and ready to go. our prime minister is launching us into 2023 with a bold and dynamic vision for the nation that everyone needs to study max. until 18. i'll let you know my thoughts on that and his ridiculous new year's speech ridiculous new year's eve speech at of the show. plus, at the top of the show. plus, a gb news exclusive . former gb news exclusive. former

england sol campbell england defender sol campbell was all over the papers yesterday for launching a defence of work in effort to defence of his work in effort to win a gong in the new year's honours system. everyone wants to speak solve, but he chose to speak to solve, but he chose us going to join me us and he's going to join me before 11:00 to set the record straight on my papers panel. this morning, very straight this morning, two very straight talkers stephen talkers. ex labour mp stephen pound , the political pound, the political commentator, susan evans. to discuss those sunak massive plans british police deserve us for australia and looming mask madness. that's all coming up after a look at the latest news with campaign . butter. thank with campaign. butter. thank you. good morning . it's 10:01. you. good morning. it's10:01. here's the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister is to announce plans for all pupils in england to study some form of maths until the age of 18. in his first speech of 2023, rishi sunak will lay out his priorities for the year ahead, including re—arming , training, including re—arming, training, our approach to numeracy , he'll our approach to numeracy, he'll argue, letting children into the

workplace without math skills is letting them down as children's future jobs will require more analytical skills , schoolteacher analytical skills, schoolteacher and maths ambassador bobby seagull says there is a significant need for increased focus on numeracy . one of the focus on numeracy. one of the headune focus on numeracy. one of the headline stats that the prime minister talked about was that there were 8 million adults in england . that's one in two. now england. that's one in two. now the numeracy skills that we'd expect from an 11 year old primary school child, and that's where think the key failing where i think is the key failing . might have passed an exam, . you might have passed an exam, a 65, but ten 12 years down a 65, but ten or 12 years down the line, when you get your your mortgage bill or you get like a bank statement. you bank statement. do you understand going so i understand what's going on.7 so i think it's translating the math skills on paper real life skills on paper to real life numeracy applications . around numeracy applications. around half of britain's railway lines are closed, with only a fifth of services running as 40,000 rail workers strike again today . rmt workers strike again today. rmt members across network rail and 14 train companies are on day two of a 48 hour strike in a

dispute over pay, jobs and conditions . train drivers in the conditions. train drivers in the aslef union will strike on thursday, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday. rmt boss, mick lynch, told gb news the union wants a sensible agreement at everyone can support . our message is that we support. our message is that we do apologise for the inconvenience and we are working towards getting a solution. but there are a lot of people that are frustrated. we've got the health workers, education workers, firefighters are all getting the same treatment from the government they seem to the government that they seem to want extend the agony and not want to extend the agony and not give people a square deal. all we a square deal for our we want is a square deal for our members then can create a members and then we can create a settlement . a man has settlement. a british man has been shot dead in james, jamaica. sean patterson , a jamaica. sean patterson, a personal trainer from west london , was found with gunshot london, was found with gunshot wounds by the pool at the guest house where he was staying on monday. local media says a 34 year old man is now in custody. food inflation hit a record

13.3% last month, due to soaring prices. that's up from 12.4% in the previous month. it comes as the previous month. it comes as the latest price index show the overall shop price inflation is slightly to 7.3% in december. the british retail consortium says it was a challenging christmas for many households across the uk . a leading doctor across the uk. a leading doctor has warned toothbrushes are becoming a luxury item as soaring costs are forcing families to buy food over a toothbrush and toothpaste. in an interview with the british medical journal, dr. camilla kingdon says the state of children's teeth is alarming evidence of how the cost of living crisis is impacting children's health. tooth decay is the leading reason for hospital admissions in england. among 5 to 9 year olds in the us republican kevin mccarthy has failed three times in his bid to become the next speaker of the

house of representatives. mr. mccarthy, who has the backing of former president trump , failed former president trump, failed to get the 218 votes needed after being blocked by 20 hardline members of his party. it's the first time in 100 years the house has failed to elect a speaker on the first ballot. it's expected to try again later today. the question is on the motion . russia's defence motion. russia's defence ministry has blamed its soldiers on authorised mobile phone use for a deadly attack in ukraine. the comments come after ukraine and missile strike killed at least 89 russian troops on new year's day in the moscow controlled part of the donetsk region . several russian cities region. several russian cities have held ceremonies to commemorate the soldiers who died . the elgin marbles could died. the elgin marbles could soon return to greece as part of a landmark loan deal made by the british library . uk legislation

british library. uk legislation prevents treasures from legal being given away by the museum , being given away by the museum, butits being given away by the museum, but its chairman, the former chancellor george osborne, has reportedly drawn up a cultural exchange with athens. that's according to the telegraph newspaper. the two and a half thousand year old marbles were taken by lord elgin in the early 19th century, where they are displayed has been the subject of long controversy . this is gb of long controversy. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens, of course. now it's back to beth . it's back to beth. very good morning. welcome. spent time today on gb news. thank you for joining spent time today on gb news. thank you forjoining me. here's thank you for joining me. here's what's coming up on the show as we welcome in 2023, around half of britain's railway lines are closed with only a fifth of services running . as 40,000 rail services running. as 40,000 rail workers strike for a second day,

rmt members across network rail and 14 train companies walking off the job today as well as friday and saturday in a dispute over pay, jobs and conditions. union boss mick lynch told gb news the union wants a sensible agreement that everyone can support . and the former arsenal support. and the former arsenal spurs and england defender sol campbell has caused some outrage and certainly a lot of controversy by saying that he should have been on the new year's honours list. he's going to join us shortly to tell us why. and of course, this show is nothing without you and your viewers. forget to in viewers. don't forget to vote in the we've running on the poll we've got running on twitter this morning. what asking you as rishi sunak asking you that as rishi sunak is going announce plans is going to announce his plans to uk in only a couple to fix the uk in only a couple of time. the headline is of hours time. the headline is that making studying maths that he's making studying maths compulsory the age of 18. compulsory until the age of 18. is this going to fix all problems .7 email me problems? email me gbviews@gbnews.uk . or tweet me gbviews@gbnews.uk. or tweet me at gb news. let me know what you think . but

at gb news. let me know what you think. but first of all, let's have a look at your non elected prime minister delivering his new year speech to inspire and galvanise us as we stare down the barrel of another frankly terrifying year . the barrel of another frankly terrifying year. here he is talking down to us rather nervously, like a supply teacher to a class of four year olds. i think there are a few things . think there are a few things. the first is pride. i just want people to feel proud of being british. proud of their town , british. proud of their town, their community that they call home. i'm proud of their leaders. actually and that's about restoring trust in politics. and hopefully we can make progress on that . even he make progress on that. even he doesn't sound like he believes it. the hopefully was a bit fingers crossed. i am proud . fingers crossed. i am proud. proud of literally what this former great nation still full of wonderful, warm hearted british people, has an education system . with 100,000 missing system. with 100,000 missing children who never returned after lockdowns, an nhs with unprecedented waiting lists , unprecedented waiting lists, excess deaths reaching more than

a thousand people per week last year with nobody apparently bothered by that. we have trains that don't run. energy and petrol companies ripping us off and eye—watering food inflation . so go on, rishi. tell us from the heart with passion. how are you going to fix it? assurance. i know people are anxious at the moment and they want relief. they want peace of mind that things are just going to be okay . and that is first and foremost about reducing the inflation and energy bills , which, again, energy bills, which, again, we've made a good start on. but there's more to do . do you think there's more to do. do you think 7 there's more to do. do you think ? yes. we want reassure lawrence, but not through poxy videos shot in your front room telling us that we want reassurance. what are your plans? what exactly are you going to do? what exactly are you up to? you were chancellor of the exchequer when you found a magic monetary and gave away taxpayers cash without enough checks and balances. you create it a stay at home. we get paid

to do all culture which has resulted in 9 million economically inactive people. half a million of which are lost , depressed , under 24 year old , depressed, under 24 year old with no idea of what to do next. but don't worry, richard, in the royals, rishi knows just what we need. royals, rishi knows just what we need . watch out for the need. watch out for the revealing , self—conscious revealing, self—conscious swallow . and then the last one swallow. and then the last one is fairness. i think everyone wants to live in a country where things feel fair, that if you're working hard and doing the right thing, that that is going to be rewarded. and other people aren't able to beat system aren't able to beat the system and break the rules and get away with that . oh, you like with that. oh, you mean like this? poor sarah and richard stout, pictured on their christmas caribbean holiday after making christmas caribbean holiday after makin g £2 billion in nhs after making £2 billion in nhs ppe contra , 2 billion through ppe contra, 2 billion through their family business, which previously made less than a million quid according to the daily mail. they got a tip off about a deadly virus before the pandemic took hold. and now they've just bought a caribbean villa for 30 million quid in an engush villa for 30 million quid in an english country house for 6

million with are tax payers money. well, maybe sunak was referring to baroness mon facing allegations. right now of a £29 million kickback. a similar covid contracts. why doesn't our prime minister sound more outraged about this? well, maybe because these figures are small change. his personal wealth is 730 million quid. his wife is a billionaire . so not goes on to billionaire. so not goes on to talk about building a better future for our children. but he doesn't ever tell us what that looks like . oh, except today looks like. oh, except today we're going hear that the we're going to hear that the need more maths, need to do more maths, apparently us apparently in never tells us anything deeper than platitudes and cliches about pride and fairness . so we have to read fairness. so we have to read between the lines. we know how excited he gets about artificial intelligence track and trace systems and in the past is keenly advocated for centralised digital banking system, possibly with behavioural conditions attached explanations of these huge swirling issues today to give us time to debate the pros

and cons of a sunak designed future of what we need . that is future of what we need. that is what a happy new year would look like . right? let me know what like. right? let me know what you think when you gb views at gbnews.uk is the email i will be checking my inbox and i'll be getting to as many of them as i can throughout the show. now the chief negotiator of network rail has raised hopes that an end to rail strikes is on the horizon, saying a deal with the rmt saying that a deal with the rmt is now within touching distance . the country enters . it comes as the country enters a second day of widespread strike action, with three more on the way . a west midlands on the way. a west midlands reported jet . carson joins us reported jet. carson joins us from wolverhampton station now. good morning, jack. lovely to see you. what is the latest in the midlands at the station there ? well, there's a lot of there? well, there's a lot of disruption. to be perfectly honest , disruption. to be perfectly honest, about one train an hours honest, about one train an hour's running for a lot of the

local services and local journeys . there are some trains journeys. there are some trains two per hour which go via birmingham new street into london, houston. so there's still some some services running. but it is it is disruption compared to what we usually see here. in fact, just inside the station, there's a white board that says due to industrial action, there are no trains going between wolverhampton shrewsbury. wolverhampton and shrewsbury. stopping station . stopping at the local station. so wanting to so those passengers wanting to go via are going to have to go via that are going to have to find alternative arrangements. so you probably around me so you probably see around me there's of taxis parked up there's a lot of taxis parked up here. speaking some of here. and speaking to some of the drivers this morning, here. and speaking to some of the saydrivers this morning, here. and speaking to some of the say that rs this morning, here. and speaking to some of the say that these morning, here. and speaking to some of the say that these train1ing, they say that these train strikes are almost them strikes are almost killing them because day because they've it's another day now. essentially no now. they've got essentially no business because nobody's using the trains . people are staying the trains. people are staying away trains and getting away from the trains and getting alternative they alternative arrangements if they can and they can work from can and if they can work from home, they'll home home, they'll work from home rather commute into city rather than commute into city centres birmingham, centres like birmingham, where their might well be . we their office might well be. we don't really know where this is going of course we going to end. of course we heard, you just mentioned, heard, as you just mentioned, that rail are hopeful that network rail are hopeful that network rail are hopeful that is close with the that a deal is close with the rmt. lynch

rmt. they're meeting mick lynch later in the week, next week to try and sort out something. the first deal that network rail will their best and what they said was final offer was said was that final offer was a 5% pay rise backdated for 2022 and a 4% pay rise for 2023. that was rejected by the eligible rmt members by 55. so what wiggle room the network rail believe they might have ? we don't really they might have? we don't really know. mick lynch has never really set out from the rmt. what what kind of figure in terms of a pay rise and what it is actually acceptable to him to be had to put forward to the members. we know, of course he has of strict redlines on things like driver only trains were moving offices from moving ticket offices from stations across the country particularly that issue about guards on trains because of things like safety that he says that that is not something that he's going to negotiate over he's not going to negotiate over but it's something that network rail tried to slip into rail and that tried to slip into the last round of the deal at the last round of negotiations so they're negotiations so whether they're happy happy to remove that happy to happy to remove that from the deal, we don't happy to happy to remove that from the deal , we don't know. from the deal, we don't know. but of course , they're saying

but of course, they're saying that a deal looks like close. we'll to what happens. we'll have to see what happens. but here is going but the disruption here is going to . this paul to continue. this morning, paul novak, trade unions from the novak, the trade unions from the trade congress has trade unions, congress has called ministers to open called on ministers to open pay negotiation amid rail negotiation amid the rail strikes . in a letter to the strikes. in a letter to the prime minister rishi sunak, he said the public services were in crisis after years of underfunding and understaffing. but government saying but the government is saying they the pay rise they can't afford the pay rise in inflation. we'll in line with inflation. so we'll have see what happens from have to see what happens from negotiations. mark harper saying yesterday, off the picket yesterday, get off the picket line, round the table. it line, come round the table. it seems now is going to seems like that now is going to be case between the rmt and be the case between the rmt and the and this dispute the government and this dispute might ended quite soon. might well be ended quite soon. okay. you, jack. let's okay. thank you, jack. let's hope so . do let me know. hope so. do let me know. tomorrow's being called what's it been called? something thursday, tragic thursday. because of the strikes that'll be going on. about 10% of trains will be running tomorrow. let me know, won't you ? if your if your know, won't you? if your if your christmas and your new year plans were all disrupted from a family point of view because of the i think it's the rail strikes, i think it's just caused chaos. i'm

just caused chaos. well i'm talking lisa minot, talking now to lisa minot, travel editor at the sun. good morning , lisa. when you were morning, lisa. when you were listening there to jack's assessment of the situation , it assessment of the situation, it sounds relatively bleak. do you think there's a little more light at the end of the tunnel that a deal will be reached now that a deal will be reached now that we've made it through to 2023? i think it really, really just does depend on the unions and the government both moving from their very entitled position there is at the moment a little bit towards the centre ground. we're not seeing nothing coming from either side. you know, the government are saying that they insist that any kind of pay award does have to come with these alterations to the sort of set , the actual sort of sort of set, the actual sort of conditions that the railway workers are working at at the moment. they say that the railways have to be modernised and there a very different base to the one they were pre—pandemic. and then you have the the other side the unions on the other side very, very you know , not going very, very you know, not going to move at or not going to go forward and say that safety is urgent and that their members

working conditions really working conditions are really important. so it's about more than just pay. i think if it was just about pay, things might have moved but we've got two have moved on. but we've got two sides sitting very much sides who are sitting very much in different camps and not moving forward. mick has moving forward. mick lynch has already that they already said that should they not up with any kind not come up with any kind of resolution week in the resolution next week in the latest round of talks , they've latest round of talks, they've got mandate to strike until got a mandate to strike up until may, and it could actually be that they then take another vote to action. all the to have further action. all the way into the rest of this year. extraordinary. one thing that it's easy to forget , lisa extraordinary. one thing that it's easy to forget, lisa and i was reminded there, when jack was reminded there, when jack was talking actually is that the effects of this on other transport workers, the taxi drivers, the bus drivers , as drivers, the bus drivers, as i was driving in this morning, the roads in london were nearly empty because i think a lot of people are just deciding to work from home on days like this as as somebody that works for an influential newspaper, the sun , influential newspaper, the sun, how do you handle that with your readers? because there's a fine line, isn't there, between supporting workers, but also supporting the workers, but also

supporting the workers, but also supporting readers who want supporting your readers who want to work? yeah i mean, and to get to work? yeah i mean, and thatis to get to work? yeah i mean, and that is that is a real issue because, yes, as you say, there has been you know, a decent amount of sympathy up now amount of sympathy up until now for railway workers because for the railway workers because some of them are low paid some of them are very low paid and deserve a pay rise . you and do deserve a pay rise. you know, they kept the railways running throughout the pandemic, but the same time, this is but at the same time, this is now starting to hit people in their pockets in a way that they weren't expecting it to. you weren't expecting it to. if you working hospitality working in the hospitality industry, it's had a real impact on hospitality industry, the on the hospitality industry, the entertainment and as entertainment industry and as you those and other forms you say, those and other forms of after a while of transport. and after a while , i think it does begin to get very worrying. people are having to know, so real to make you know, so real changes their lives in terms changes to their lives in terms of they work, how the of how they get to work, how the commute perhaps especially in of how they get to work, how the com around arhaps especially in of how they get to work, how the com around londonespecially in of how they get to work, how the com around london and:ially in of how they get to work, how the com around london and othern and around london and other major big cities. so there is going to still be sympathy, but at the same time, they want a deal struck we can get deal struck so that we can get back to having a of, you back to having a sort of, you know, reality . easy way get know, a reality. easy way to get into the new. yeah, yeah, absolutely. and in terms of pubuc absolutely. and in terms of public support, there's public support, lisa, there's a new poll today that

new yougov poll out today that says the 49% of people in the uk are now opposed the strikes. are now opposed to the strikes. so it sounds like the rmt and mick lynch are just kind of clinging on to the majority of people in this country, but that won't last forever , will it ? no won't last forever, will it? no way. but all you can hope is that they do manage to put a deal on the table that will go out to the rmt members and be approved. if you remember approved. and if you remember the last year when that was put on the table, third of the on the table, a third of the union workers did actually accept it . it was, know, accept it. it was, you know, sort of 33% said, yes, 66% said no. so if they can get past that interruption and get past this place where actually the moment of the turk working conditions are the real issue and what's going to happen to how that working conditions are going to change? working on sundays ? and change? working on sundays? and if they can get past that, then there is a possibility that there's a date on the table that there's a date on the table that the union members will want to take. okay. thank you so much, lisa. lisa millar their travel editor at the sun . let me know editor at the sun. let me know

what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk uk. do the railway workers still have your support? don't forget also to vote in my twitter poll this morning. i'm asking you , with morning. i'm asking you, with rishi sunak announcing his plan to fix the uk, the headline is that he's making steady in maths compulsory until the age of 18. is that going to fix your problems? well, funnily enough, around 90% of you so far think not. as always, a semi or email is gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. now after the break, i'm going to be welcoming my panel into the studio for the first time this morning. i'm going to be joined by a cheeky chappv, going to be joined by a cheeky chappy, former labour mp steven pound and the very opinionated political commentator suzanne evans. anywhere. now, evans. don't go anywhere. now, though, a quick.

break good morning. it's 1022. break good morning. it's1022. this is bev turner tennis day on gb news. my guests are here , i am news. my guests are here, i am delighted to say. i'm joined by political commentator suzanne evans and former labour mp steven pound . steve, and good steven pound. steve, and good morning. the highlight of my christmas with your house of commons chocolates on boxing day. thank you very much. the highlight of my new year is having you say that is . i've had having you say that is. i've had those chocolates there. i'm easily bored on a product placement . right, stephen? let's placement. right, stephen? let's start with the front page of the guardian this morning. now, this is telling us that rishi sunak is telling us that rishi sunak is in denial. regarding the nhs crisis , is he? i don't think he crisis, is he? i don't think he is. i think what the doctor has actually said is the royal college of emergency medicine. they actually said he is delusional and i think that the issue here that he is deluded issue here is that he is deluded about future of the nhs. about the future of the nhs. look, i think we come to the stage really and truly when stage now really and truly when we our model, which we realise that our model, which is pretty much unique in the world, i think, except possibly

for is ideologically for cuba, is ideologically superb know , superb emotionally, you know, maybe philosophically it's good, but simply practical. but it's simply isn't practical. now actually got a window now we've actually got a window of opportunity. bizarre of opportunity. the bizarre thing a very, very thing is we've got a very, very warm at moment, warm winter. now at the moment, we've this double whammy of we've got this double whammy of flu cases. but this is the flu uptake normal at this time of uptake is normal at this time of yeah uptake is normal at this time of year. is a long career year. and there is a long career advancement truly, if advancement really and truly, if we come out of this into a fairly warm spring, i think it really, really is the time we stand and look, as wes stand back and say, look, as wes streeting you know, streeting said, you know, this is service, a shrine. it is a service, not a shrine. it feels that, doesn't it? now feels like that, doesn't it? now i we've reached that i think we've reached that tipping point. have we, suzanne, even those of who hold it so even those of us who hold it so dearly our heart, to have dearly in our heart, to have seen ones literally seen our loved ones literally lives by the nhs? well, lives saved by the nhs? well, i mean, it's well overdue for reform. the problem with the nhs is that it's been this political football, each side has tried football, so each side has tried to claim it for own to claim it for its own and claim managing it claim that it's been managing it better the other labour and better than the other labour and tory, labour and tory. and none of have actually had the of them have actually had the bottle it and say, bottle to grasp it and say, look, it's not working anymore. bottle to grasp it and say, look, its not working anymore. bottle to grasp it and say, look, it wast working anymore. bottle to grasp it and say, look, it was foundedi anymore. bottle to grasp it and say, look, it was founded in 1ymore. bottle to grasp it and say, look, it was founded in the ore. when it was founded in the 1940s, they a much fewer 1940s, they were a much fewer

people this country. we people in this country. we didn't have the medical advances that and it's not that we had, and it's not working. not fit working. it's not fit for purpose it has got to purpose anymore. it has got to be but one thing be reformed. but one thing i will this idea that now, will say, this idea that now, richard, see sunak is richard, you see sunak is delusion because nhs is in delusion because the nhs is in crisis. the nhs in crisis crisis. the nhs is in crisis every winter. i had a quick look at some 2018 headlines before we came on air. bev and they're almost identical to today's the daily mail winter crisis cripples nhs. now the nhs tells us don't get ill. the cripples nhs. now the nhs tells us don't get ill . the telegraph us don't get ill. the telegraph nhs tells hospitals to cancel all routine operations. the mirror britain in the griffin poll years ago. this is four years ago before the covid pandemic and frankly, nothing has changed to create a once famous prime minister. 4 billion quid a week. it gets over 80 billion a year, but it's a huge amount. you know, there are times when throwing money at the nhs works and it worked in 2003 money did actually work. it brought down the cancer waiting list . the real brought down the cancer waiting list. the real problem we got. firstly as was mentioned when the nhs came into with me

the nhs came into being with me in july 1948, it was predicated on a couple of things. don't forget the original beveridge report was five different things. it was supposed to end, you ill health, idleness , you know, ill health, idleness, sloth, you know, it was the idea was that the nhs would actually fade away after a while because people healthy. but people would be so healthy. but it predicated on a couple of it was predicated on a couple of things. firstly didn't things. firstly women didn't work, at home work, so women stayed at home and the elderly and and looked after the elderly and infirm. men left infirm. secondly, men left school 15, worked until they school at 15, worked until they were 65, spent ten years down at fulham watching some football, doing they and then doing whatever they do, and then died that and then in died at 75. that and then in 1953, only five years after the nhs, you had the guilbault report which said, look, it's unsustainable and they took eye surgery, optical dentistry out of the nhs because they couldn't afford it. so it's so it hasn't moved with the times has it, when you put it like that. it has in some ways. i mean i don't think the solution is that we should all women should all give at work and look after all elderly. wondering if elderly. i was wondering if you're going to come up with 70. i'm not 75. i don't think you

were but see were suggesting that, but i see what you mean. you're saying these massive cultural shift in these massive cultural shift in the way live our lives the way that we live our lives and we choose to spend our and how we choose to spend our time disproportion. time is so disproportion. i mean, that nhs was mean, the irony that the nhs was there us fit and now we there to make us fit and now we have had obesity pandemic for have had an obesity pandemic for at least three decades. we've been that. well, been living in that. well, i kind that. i think kind of dispute that. i think the way which the obesity the way in which the obesity figures calculate it is slightly it's like a distribution curve. so going so there's always going to be somebody that's labelled overweight. actually overweight. and i actually happen bmi is one happen to think that bmi is one of so i agree. you can of the. so i agree. you can possibly know what they're supposed know, supposed to do. but, you know, we've had ten, i think, top down reorganised versions of the nhs since and none them have since 1973 and none of them have really size and really worked. it's size and scale now is massive. it's the biggest employer in the country , i think just biggest employer in world. and the third in the world. and the third biggest employer, the indian railways first. and then railways is the first. and then the chinese chinese army is the second. all right. we're the third employer in the third biggest employer in the world india and china. world after india and china. it's certainly biggest in it's certainly the biggest in europe. biggest europe. it is the biggest employer europe. let's employer in europe. well, let's see has to say today. i

see what he has to say today. i would say rishi sunak is making this speech this afternoon to set out his vision on and if he doesn't go hard on the nhs, i think of people are very disappointed because it is at the forefront of a lot of people's really grasp the nettle. i mean come up with nettle. i mean he's come up with some ideas already. mean some good ideas already. i mean i nothing new about i think is nothing new about having pharmacists get having community pharmacists get more diagnosis more involved in in diagnosis and prescription face and prescription and let's face it, that's he comes from. it, that's where he comes from. so but you there's things so but you know, there's things like so but you know, there's things uke can so but you know, there's things like can do, but like that that we can do, but ultimately is to ultimately we really need is to get rid of people who are blocking the beds in the hospitals. we need to go to the rehabilitation units of the different used to different units that we used to have and recovery have physical and recovery units, where people have physical and recovery units, come where people have physical and recovery units, come before re people have physical and recovery units, come before they ople have physical and recovery units, come before they went. at would come before they went. at the moment, you've had the moment, after you've had your operation, you not your operation, you should not be the hospital be occupying the hospital bed and 40,000 care and bring back the 40,000 care workers. got so lost their workers. they got so lost their jobs and vaccine mandates so we can the people to our can get the people to our system. well, the sorted. system. well, the nhs sorted. well that. you know, well we've done that. you know, where let's not where we. all right, let's not return madness. oh return to mask madness. oh really. very differently really. i feel very differently about this. how about you? seven? i'm sorry. i'm going to be absolutely blunt here, but

anybody thinks masks are anybody that thinks masks are going or even help going to solve this or even help this crisis is a i'll be that blunt about it. you only have to look to china where they have been even before day one been masked even before day one of they were all wearing of covid, they were all wearing masks the time. masks out there all the time. and at what's in and look at what's happening in china. something like china. you had something like 250 million cases in the first 20 days of december when they started lift restrictions, started to lift restrictions, mask don't work. it is self—evidently obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that they don't work and i was quite pleased to hear mps pushing back against this. desmond swayne, who was a great sort of champion , i think, of the anti—lockdown movement , , i think, of the anti—lockdown movement, said, you know, they're one of the more dystopian aspects of the covid restrictions and let's not forget that we made children wear these filthy rags at school because adults frightened. because adults were frightened. absolutely that's the bottom line. masks only to try and line. masks are only to try and stop the fearful being afraid. they do nothing to stop the spread that formerly public health england, of course, which rather menacingly got called the uk and security agency uk health and security agency

dunng uk health and security agency during pandemic. do what during the pandemic. do what we're telling you now. it's enough false about that . enough false made about that. well, they are the ones who are saying that we need cobi star restrictions. could include saying that we need cobi star restr coverings could include saying that we need cobi star restr coverings thisd include saying that we need cobi star restr coverings this winterde face coverings this winter stephen what do you think? i don't go quite as far as i will. i won't wear one. i haven't worn them. i have stood up in shops and had arguments with people about the fact that they're trying to make me my children wear them. however, i do think i won't judge somebody if they feel happy. if that were if they feel happy. if that were if they feel okay, you you out feel okay, you do. you hang out with almost impossible with me. it's almost impossible to one wear glasses to wear one if you wear glasses as well, but interestingly as well. well, but interestingly , of people from china and , a lot of people from china and japan them before japan were wearing them before covid. think know covid. and i don't think i know and want to i don't want and i don't want to i don't want to be normal. think that's the point. but when you think about desmond's weight, i always remember him. he remember when i knew him. he i used in the morning used to see him in the morning bible study class parliament, bible study class in parliament, and from and he'd come straight from a morning swim in the serpentine. you'd get. he'd go a swim. you'd get. he'd go for a swim. they're yeah. mark they're fabulous. yeah. mark harris. but i'll you, i harris. oh, but i'll tell you, i have one. so i have to say, you can only admire a person who

does that. look , i think in does that. but look, i think in some ways it's good manners if you've got a cold and if sneezing and coughing, even an eye, of cover eye, all three of us would cover our not? yes. our faces, would we not? yes. excuse me. good manners. it didn't used to be good manners. so it now? but because so why is it now? but because we're that airborne we're now we know that airborne distribution. we knew we always knew that viruses, wherever, obviously mean, obviously we didn't. but i mean, we did. well, we we course we did. well, we always knew that could always knew that you could catch, suppose, kenyans in catch, i suppose, the kenyans in the yeah. but the name. yeah, yeah. but nowadays, we've nowadays, you know, people we've had cover had a handkerchief and cover their they sneeze but their nose if they sneeze but that they always did that that what they always did that they just didn't wear a mask on their walk around. their to face walk around. i don't if everybody did. don't know if everybody did. i can remember plenty people can remember plenty of people sneeze, the tube in can remember plenty of people sne�*morning. the tube in can remember plenty of people sne�*morning. i've the tube in can remember plenty of people sne�*morning. i've lived; tube in can remember plenty of people sne�*morning. i've lived in ube in can remember plenty of people sne�*morning. i've lived in thisin the morning. i've lived in this city all my life and we didn't die. no, not in numbers. die. no, not. not in numbers. and i think that was a sorry. i don't buy this. stephen, you sneeze a mask, you have sneeze into a mask, so you have a lump of. you know what, stuck in mask. you could take it in your mask. you could take it off, too. i come on. off, too. i mean, come on. a handkerchief is much better and it from the it doesn't stop you from the benefits. days, videos i've benefits. some days, videos i've worn you what i'm worn masks. you know what i'm doing? building work

doing? intensive building work and i've got dust everywhere you take off it's still on take it off and it's still on your face. and that's dust. massive, particles. but massive, great particles. but the key thing the key the key the key thing here is immunisation. mean, here is immunisation. i mean, the of if not probably the one of the if not probably the one of the if not probably the success of the the greatest success of the whole in this whole covid horror in this country work country is kate bingham's work in actually rolling out the vaccine. you know, are world vaccine. you know, we are world leaders. take the leaders. we will take the science might be slightly controversial as well. controversial on that as well. but we had a pretty good but i think we had a pretty good result country. result in this country. and i think i am actually in think i mean, i am actually in the target group, you know, for people who are likely to get it. and i woke up one morning, made some toast. i couldn't smell the toast. and i thought, hello, what's on so went what's going on here? so i went into toilet and the osprey into the toilet and the osprey couldn't. i thought, do couldn't. so i thought, i'll do the ultimate test. went upstairs, got watch. chanel upstairs, got the watch. chanel number tipped out. number five tipped it out. i couldn't smell it's so couldn't smell a thing. it's so you i was just trying to you what? i was just trying to work with. got my sense work with. i got my sense of smell. fortunately lost smell. i'm fortunately i lost stephen. lost. well, you stephen. i lost. well, you wanted be able to do that if you were a mask with. no, were in a mask with. no, no, i think so. i think i had it. i'm not almost lost my not they almost lost my consciousness. and it's when life caught it. but the point

being i had recovered in being that i had recovered in immunised problem well immunised no problem since. well you statistically have you statistically you would have been you would been okay anyway. yes you would have statistically been okay. even senior senior even at your senior senior research. thank my dear. research. thank you, my dear. now break, i'm now that after the break, i'm going be joined by former going to be joined by former footballer campbell. took footballer sol campbell. he took to a detail in the to twitter a detail in the reasons he should have made the new honours list. it new year's honours list. it rocked a few people the wrong rocked a few people up the wrong way, he's gonna be joining way, but he's gonna be joining me his side of the me to give his side of the story. that's after the morning news morning. it's 1033 story. that's after the morning news morning. it's1033 on news. good morning. it's1033 on tamsin roberts in gb newsroom. here the headlines . the here are the headlines. the prime to announce prime minister is to announce plans in england plans for all pupils in england to study some form of maths until the age of 18. in his first speech of 2023, rishi sunak will lay out his priorities for the year , priorities for the year, including reimagining our approach to numeracy . he'll approach to numeracy. he'll argue letting children into the workplace without math skills is letting them down as their future jobs will require more analytical skills. schoolteacher and maths ambassador bobby seagull says there's a significant need for increase focus on maths . one of the

focus on maths. one of the headune focus on maths. one of the headline steps that the prime minister talked about was that there were 8 million adults in england . that's one in two. now england. that's one in two. now the numeracy skills that we'd expect from an 11 year old primary school child, and that's what i think is the key failing . have passed an exam, . you might have passed an exam, a but ten, 12 years down the a 16 but ten, 12 years down the line, when you get your your mortgage bill or you get like a bank statement, do you understand what's going on? so i think translating the math think it's translating the math skills to real life skills on paper to real life numeracy application around half of britain's railway lines are closed, with only a fifth of services running as 40,000 rail workers strike again today. rmt members across network rail and 14 train companies are on day two of a 48 hour strike in a dispute over pay, jobs and conditions . train drivers in the conditions. train drivers in the aslef union will strike on thursday, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday. food inflation hit a record

13.3% last month, due to soaring prices. that's up from 12.4% in the previous month. it comes as the previous month. it comes as the latest price index showed the latest price index showed the overall shop price inflation is slightly to 7.3% in december . al is slightly to 7.3% in december. a l toothbrush matches are becoming a luxury as soaring costs are forcing families to buy food over a toothbrush and toothpaste in an interview with the british medical journal, dr. camilla kingdon says the state of children's teeth is alarming evidence of how the cost of living crisis is impact to children's . health tv, online children's. health tv, online and dab+ radio. this is.

gb news. good morning . it is 1037. this good morning. it is 1037. this is bev turner today on gb news. it is so nice to be back with you. let me tell you pretty much dropkicked out the children out the door school this morning. you can get in touch with your views on rishi sunak plans to make all maths until 18. make us all do maths until 18. josh i was at school josh says when i was at school i did not realise the importance of maths. i use maths every for my work, the technical stuff, the of working the importance off of working out and retirement out pay time off and retirement planning. craig says planning. and craig says you don't until 18 don't need to do maths until 18 to understand you're a lot poorer , unable afford basics. poorer, unable to afford basics. you get on the property you can't get on the property ladder food costs are up. ladder that food costs are up. more on so many items in the electric and gas prices have spiralled. yep, with you spiralled. yep, i agree with you both listen , former arsenal both. now listen, former arsenal and england tottenham defender sol campbell, as has posted a list of his football achievements on twitter. he wasn't he wasn't named in the new year's honours list. again and some of the reasons were being part of the invincible arsenal , which went 49

arsenal team, which went 49 games without losing , arsenal team, which went 49 games without losing, and pointing out that he was the first black english speaking player to and a champions player to score and a champions league . plus he stood up for league. plus he stood up for racism in football here and abroad . finally, he went on to abroad. finally, he went on to say that at one stage he was pound for pound, the best defender in the world when it caused a huge reaction online and in the papers. everyone wanted to talk salt, but he wanted to talk to salt, but he chose us. he joins us now exclusively so very exclusively on gb news. so very good morning . great to see you. good morning. great to see you. good to see you. looking somewhere lovely now. did you expect so that your your tweets would cause such a fuss? and doesit would cause such a fuss? and does it suggest that you might have a point? i think for me , have a point? i think for me, when it comes to honours list, if it comes to a popularity kind of contest , you know, there's of contest, you know, there's lot of people unpopular who have concerns over the members . and concerns over the members. and if you look what i've done and i've gone through playing

football with the consistency over the course of two decades under severe pressure. and in football, when a split sense i'm up with the with some of the sport in great so of our country i'm a proud englishman of a lot of the football on and off the field for racism and also i'm not even talking about the records i've acquired playing playing football for my country and domestic you know and arsenal. so for me , i'm not with arsenal. so for me, i'm not with the rest. we're all of them. i don't know . i get overlooked on don't know. i get overlooked on on these kind of occasions. i'm the only sport in grades that has been overlooked. but for me , i'm seeing other people kind of get all these gongs. and these are these accolades and, you know , especial. i think for you know, especial. i think for me , it would be an honour for me me, it would be an honour for me to have a so obe mp for my, you know, the sport i've committed

to for over two decades. why now , saul? why did you why did you choose to make this point now have there been many years when you've sort of sat for the phone to ring at new year? do you think this year is going be think this year is going to be the year got the 2023? oh, the year they got the 2023? oh, no. again i don't care anymore. i'm going to make a point for me when you look at it like, you know , when i first, you know, know, when i first, you know, when i retired over ten years ago, just before that, i won the fa cup with portsmouth. i mean, i mean, i'm 80 like retired and i'm winning when it a, you know, when you look at, you know, how you know, so many other teams of try to you know to do that and spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds. you know, i go to portsmouth. i never want to thinking who you finish there and win the cup. but only and win the cup. but not only that, you know, the field stuff. you know, i had a charity, you know, helping disadvantaged know, helping out disadvantaged kids or all over kids from from some or all over the place, whoever london helping them cannot go to sporting if you look sporting events. so if you look at the the field, you know,

at the off the field, you know, i've a of a lot for i've got a hell of a lot for just this. a black man and a proud, you know, british and engush proud, you know, british and english mind going forward . so english mind going forward. so i've got a hell of a lot for this country. i mean icon but his country, you know broadly people recognise me for what i've done as a as a footballer. it'd be if i could have it'd be nice if i could have something and say, hey, i've been recognised in my own country . mm. yeah. i can see country. mm. yeah. i can see where you're coming from. you've got a lot of sticks so you know, you don't, you'd be the first to admit this was a lot of people saying, you know, is very saying, you know, this is very arrogant for arrogant and you should wait for somebody else to suggest you. what's response that ? i what's your response to that? i mean, if you have that mean, if you if you have that situation, then i'll be waiting forever . yes. there's situation, then i'll be waiting forever. yes. there's there's forever. yes. there's a there's protocol. there's ways doing protocol. there's ways of doing that. keep on getting that. but if you keep on getting overlooked, i mean, if they look at just look at, you know, what for i've done football? just football . the accolades , the football. the accolades, the hard work, the commitment and, you know, the consistency of playing at the highest level

under extreme pressure and football. and then you see other people , you know, from whatever people, you know, from whatever backgrounds and especially i come back once we come to sporting some of them have, you know not not the kind of straightforward pass or backlog you know and the resurrected themselves and all sort of maybe on tv or not and there you go. bill mp or sir? no. yes if you're quite in the corner, you if no one else is talking about it, i'm not the only one. there's other sporting greats, so kind of missing out as well. but i guess so. i'm just saying for myself. yeah, think for myself. yeah, i think i suppose maybe it's a bit more complicated in football. i mean, i looking the list from i was looking at the list from this year, even the this year, even from the lionesses the that won lionesses so the women that won the 22, do you think all of the euro 22, do you think all of the euro 22, do you think all of the squads should have got gongs because four of them did? because only four of them did? i don't know how you can differentiate really. i guess the goalscorers or whatever, but but that was such an but that's that was such an amazing achievement. be the first anything, surely the first to anything, surely the whole rewarding . whole squad needed rewarding. yeah, i'm sure . yes. and why

yeah, i'm sure. yes. and why not? because you know, when is going to come around again. and i think sometimes people overlook the quality of football . you know, the ladies are amazing jobs in the summer. so you know, some people just overlook it. just look at the certain players who scored the goals the you know, get goals or get the you know, get them kind of inches in in the magazines or the papers or the internet. well, you know, they all deserve it. those deserve it. what many that i'm just saying. so let me just ask you this. so why do you think you were overlooked have been were overlooked or have been overlooked ? well, i get it. you overlooked? well, i get it. you know, sometimes football , maybe know, sometimes football, maybe 20 years ago, there was a you know, i can understand maybe when you go into say , athletics, when you go into say, athletics, it's kind of singular sport and then look and see you. and i get so some of the guys have done amazingly and they've got, you know, the accolades and it's great, but maybe as a football as as like you look at the team people certainly kind of just pick out two players and pick out one or two players and all those are the guys or the england team. those are the guys

who who deserve it in their eyes. when you look at the eyes. but when you look at the amount of games i played the final to play two back final two games to play two back to is didn't to back is didn't in the premiership i've beaten as part of an awful team that beat a record that stood for over 100 years. you know, as i said before , as the first black before, as the first black captain to lift the cup, if that's not iconic enough at wembley, the first the first black player to score for england in the world cup. so i mean, the first black player to score in the champions league final for england english whites. so does not iconic whites. so it does not iconic moments all or things that actually say wow that's amazing that's not happened before it's not that i'm i'm not the second or the first. i'm the first person. so yes, i do deserve something . so do you think do something. so do you think do you think race has played a part in it? can i can i ask you that question? because we're in a very different place now than we were maybe years ago when you were maybe 20 years ago when you were maybe 20 years ago when you were the of your game. were at the top of your game. and, you know, you were a household couldn't household name. you couldn't walk street. do you walk down the street. do you

think was of think there was a bit of discrimination, maybe at that point just wouldn't point that there just wouldn't be i think opened up be today? i think it's opened up a a lot now for a lot ahead of a lot now for sure. i think for me, back in the days when i was maybe moved from coming to also, there was too much noise going on, you know, deal with a lot know, i had to deal with a lot of stuff there pressure at of stuff there under pressure at stuff as well, address stuff come in as well, address racial of slurs. slurs to racial kind of slurs. slurs to me as well so i think it all got lost or got lost in the noise and everyone forgot how many records i broke at the time. but i still have a record of 56 games in the premiership, not losing no and away . and i losing no and away. and i thought i did that 20 years ago. i not like , you know, mickey i not like, you know, mickey mouse kind of thing that's consistency of another level . consistency of another level. well, sol campbell, you've put up a very good defence. see why did the obvious self and i knew i knew your ambitions to be recognised by the nation . i recognised by the nation. i think you've done a brilliant job. lovely to see you. and if you want to come into the studio

any time, i'll have you going through the papers with me. so i would love to see you. thank you so much. happy new year. not so much. and happy new year. not talking you very talking to you. thank you very much. i right . let talking to you. thank you very much. i right. let me much. cheers i right. let me know what you think. does sol campbell deserve? ought to campbell deserve? and i ought to be and say be passionate about it and say vaiews@gbnews.uk. okay, we are four days into 2023 and many of us will be working hard to commit to our new year's resolutions. i'm not. the resolutions. i'm not. but the question is how many of us actually to are actually stick to them? are north—west of england. reporter sophie reaper has been taking a look ways that look at some of the ways that people kicking off their new people are kicking off their new year .to people are kicking off their new year . to kicking off the year pledges. to kicking off the new year with a bang . as we new year with a bang. as we settle into 2023, millions of us will attempt to maintain our chosen new year's resolutions . chosen new year's resolutions. now, please do so . hitting the now, please do so. hitting the gym is a popular choice . but gym is a popular choice. but what about something a little bit different of a popular new year's resolution ? these are year's resolution? these are things like reducing stress and

improving mental health. and what better way to combine those two things than with a bit of yoga. two things than with a bit of yoga . especially when you yoga. especially when you involve poppy's . if you've heard involve poppy's. if you've heard of downward facing dog. well, this is poppy yoga. of downward facing dog. well, this is poppy yoga . when we this is poppy yoga. when we practise yoga we draw focus to the breath . by doing so, we take the breath. by doing so, we take our work selves away from the constant chatter in the mind. also, by slowing the breath down, can help a person to feel relaxed . it can calm the central relaxed. it can calm the central nervous system, which helps with feelings like stress, anxiety and then when we add puppies into this , it just seems to into this, it just seems to boost several mood. everyone leaves smiling, happy, laughing. there's great feedback and the puppies really seem to enjoy it too. so it's just absolutely a beautiful thing to do. working with ethical breeders for yoga gives the puppies a to socialise and have some fun before being

adopted by their forever homes . adopted by their forever homes. of course, it's great fun for the human participants too. so if you're going to make any new year's resolutions, this year, i really recommend to try yoga. it's a daily mindful thing that really helps with mental health, helps with physical health. there's just so many benefits, i call it. i could sit here and this will benefits you, but if you just give a try, you really just give it a try, you really just give it a try, you it for yourselves for you notice it for yourselves for some poppy yoga , be the perfect some poppy yoga, be the perfect way to start 2023. but for others , there's just no others, there's just no replacement for a good old fashioned sweat during the christmas periods, people tend to relax a bit more, tend to overindulge, and then by the end of christmas, a lot of, you know, i don't feel 100. and then first thing comes my sack. i want moving again. over want to get moving again. over the few the number of the last few days, the number of memberships is sure to have skyrocketed, but what advice did joe have for keeping up with

your chosen start? small don't overestimate what you can achieve. do something small , achieve. do something small, little things you can do each day and then that will snowball into getting into that bigger picture that that bigger routine is the little things that you do that get you the results that will get you the results that will get you the results that you're looking for no matter what your resolution is. this year. remember, it's this new year. remember, it's all about finding the right balance. sophie ripper gb news wise words sophie reaper. i couldn't agree more. now let me introduce my panel to you again this morning. political commentator suzanne evans is here and former labour mp steven pound writes stephen, this is all over the papers. rishi sunak is going to make his big speech this afternoon in about an hour, just over an hour's time. what does he have in store for us? compulsory what compulsory mass until 18. what is he thinking ? so let me say, is he thinking? so let me say, the world's going to hell in a handcart. know, got handcart. you know, we've got the possibility of a covid. but the possibility of a covid. but the is in crisis. we've got the nhs is in crisis. we've got no tubes, you know, no buses, no tubes, you know, border strike. border force are on strike.

ukraine's in, but we're going to make even if make those kids stay on even if they the idea to actually they hate the idea to actually do compulsory maths until they're and i think there's they're 18. and i think there's something phoney i something really phoney stuff. i mean, forgive me for saying so, but this just doesn't add mean, forgive me for saying so, butbecause just doesn't add mean, forgive me for saying so, butbecause juthe)esn't add mean, forgive me for saying so, butbecause juthe story. add mean, forgive me for saying so, butbecause juthe story. i'm up because it's the story. i'm sure you know, i'm sorry, but there's a couple of obvious things say. still things that they say. it's still the popular a—level. it's the most popular a—level. it's it english is split it only because english is split into two that it if english into two that it is if english was just one. that would be by far the literature, all far the most literature, all language so where's language indeed. so where's where's know, you where's maths? you know, you don't know, don't have stats, you know, whatever. think that whatever. so look, i think that the point is that a who's going to actually do the teaching because you can actually because if you can actually increase people increase it, a lot of people aren't going want to study aren't going to want to study this. need special sort of this. you need a special sort of teacher to actually persuade someone to learn that someone to learn in an area that they to live. a lot they do not want to live. a lot of people simply do not want to do maths and it my day when we had rules we had to do had slide rules and we had to do the whole the whole thing was more mental. nowadays people of your you you your generation you know you don't a computer at don't do that with a computer at all. have your mobile phone, all. you have your mobile phone, which computer is on which is a computer is on the radio morning. to give radio this morning. just to give you idea, mean,

you an idea, i mean, i'm absolutely furious this absolutely furious about this suggestion because it's hard enough to kids maths enough to get kids to do maths as make them as it has already make them learn maths properly from, you know, of know, whilst before the age of 61, there's no repetition with it. they don't know anything when come they don't when they come out, they don't know it. in the know how to apply it. in the real it's on radio real world. it's on the radio this morning my 11 year old this morning when my 11 year old was having porridge and she was having a porridge and she came she went, came upstairs and she went, mummy, if i have to do maths till 18 i am leaving school at 16 she's the archetype, 16 because she's the archetype, she's words, she's good with words, she's good language. suzanne, good with language. but suzanne, what i don't what do he thinking? i don't know thinking. i think know what he's thinking. i think he take a few extra he needs to take a few extra history lessons because i remember michael gove came up with he said with this idea in 2014. he said that child that failed gcse maths should keep doing this until they got their and until they got their gcse and any child that passed it should absolutely be made to on to do it a—level. of course it it for a—level. and of course it was nonsense idea it was was a nonsense idea and it was dropped. back to history dropped. so back to history lessons you. kicking lessons for you. is he kicking sandin lessons for you. is he kicking sand in our eyes? is just sand in our eyes? is it just don't look nhs, don't don't look at the nhs, don't look at the strike because we're talking about it. it's quite astonishing barely astonishing that we've barely seen of the prime seen hide or hair of the prime

minister was minister since since he was appointed and now he's come up with this. this is really the best you can do. you know, all i see when see what is and i can't get away from him doing his 11 plus into winter or 13 to plus to get into winter or 13 to get into winchester college. i can't i think he's grown can't i don't think he's grown up think had up properly. i think he's had these pushy parents who've these very pushy parents who've impressed the impressed upon him the importance of maths and english, the world like the real world is not like that's rishi it doesn't that's rishi sunak. it doesn't really i mean, i must really matter. i mean, i must admit is my strongest admit this is not my strongest subject. i think i got a b o—level. i wasn't brilliant at this all. and far, this at all. and i learnt far, far more about maths and actual practical maths. and i did working on market stall for my working on a market stall for my own you know what? i would own sake. you know what? i would maybe days before calculator if you make anything you want to make anything compulsory in education compulsory whilst in education should make english compulsory because be able because we all have to be able to good emails, write good to write good emails, write good contracts, write good statements, write a flippin text message but english, english, that's a skill. english is our great global benefit. i mean, the fact that, you know, two thirds of the world speaks english. we should be able to speak it better than anybody else. if every single embassy

ever the world they have ever in the world they have somebody from the french culture department or the cultural attache promulgating french culture, that, but culture, we don't do that, but we but they are we should. but if they are interesting this, think interesting about this, think it's newspapers, it's in all the newspapers, mostly page 16, 1890, mostly on page 16, 17, 1890, except one paper front page , except one paper front page, main story, the splash on daily telegraph. now they're supporting it. yeah oh, yeah. but they got the splash. everybody else has got it tucked away. i mean, i think. well, what does that tell us. that tell us that the telegraph is very much we already have mass. i think plenty of i think there are plenty of other things we could be teaching children. one of teaching our children. one of the that constantly the things that i've constantly been is the fact been concerned about is the fact we teach life we don't teach our kids life skills. we don't teach them how cook, to budget, to cook, how to budget, how to tackle to apply for tackle debt, how to apply for a mortgage, how to write a cv how tackle debt, how to apply for a m4run3ge, how to write a cv how tackle debt, how to apply for a m

lots of. yes. of education, such as is, but has has as safety is, but nobody has has the change it. it's the gumption to change it. it's like a sausage machine. it's just growing every. yeah, i think i do. well, for the parents of homeschooling now. but what's the interesting you just used to that the aptitude. i mean i was actually a product of the old grammar school system and because it was before and when i took the 11 plus, i was i got elected. harrington was in charge of education at the london county council. the job and he said, don't feel so happy son, realise that son, because you realise that you had a 20% mark—up your you had a 20% mark—up on your pay- you had a 20% mark—up on your pay. mean? i had pay. that's what you mean? i had a he said, because if the 11 a 20, he said, because if the 11 plus london had been knocked plus in london had been knocked blind, single grammar blind, every single grammar school been school london would have been girls because girls girls only. yeah because girls actually i would say actually with maths . so boys i was coming with maths. so boys i was coming on to say that this is the unfairness of it because in terms of they've actually didn't have in general intelligence girls were so far ahead that the girls were so far ahead that the girls used to get knocked down, you know, as i said, i went to a grammar school and it was, you know, a presence. they know, a boys presence. they

said, i failed the plus said, well, i failed the 11 plus because that's because i was marked but did you marked down. oh, but did you take london? no, i didn't. take it in london? no, i didn't. itook take it in london? no, i didn't. i took it in shropshire and i didn't take it. so it's my excuse i thought was just excuse i thought it was just another when i came another mock. so when i came across a couple of sections, i wasn't quite sure how to tackle them. i them blank and the them. i left them blank and the first thing that my first thing i knew was that my head teacher told failed. head teacher told me i'd failed. i'd is there i'd let it go. is there a difference? anybody listen? daily page six. nine daily express, page six. nine police a the uk police officers a day in the uk are applying for jobs police officers a day in the uk are applying forjobs in australia. i say blame australia. i can't say i blame them, but it's not a very good indictment of all police. it's actually extremely worrying. we've massive we've already seen a massive exodus and nurses exodus of doctors and nurses from the nhs to australia from the nhs going to australia where better where they clearly have better terms and better terms and conditions and better pay- terms and conditions and better pay. it looks like we've pay. and now it looks like we've got the same problem with police force is force as well. yeah, it is deeply worrying and this is something that the home office obviously needs address as obviously needs to address as a matter of urgency. however i have to say beverly might and rightly or wrongly, maybe you'll castigate me for this. but my first thought when i this first thought when i saw this story was, my goodness, i can remember the police remember seeing how the police in behaved over covid

in australia behaved over covid lockdowns. they thugs . they lockdowns. they were thugs. they had hesitation to use rubber had no hesitation to use rubber bullets. they dragged people out by their they beat up kids by their hair, they beat up kids , they forced teenagers. yes, it utterly brutal. and i have to say was a part of me that say there was a part of me that actually thought rightly or wrongly, officers in wrongly, if a police officers in this country want to go and join this country want to go and join this of force, then this kind of police force, then maybe australia as well come to them, perhaps don't them, because perhaps we don't want you know, want these thugs. you know, there's separate issues there's two separate issues here. one is obviously the police 20,000 police numbers go by 20,000 between, and between, you know, 2010 and 2020. know , there's 2020. you know, there's an issue. becomes an issue. it becomes an accelerating if there's accelerating program. if there's less the ones less police officers, the ones who to do more who are left have to do more work. more up. but work. they get more fed up. but i actually know two australian police who've to police officers who've come to the talking football the uk talking about football the uk talking about football the and they said the the other day and they said the trouble australia is trouble with australia today is you're floods or droughts you're either floods or droughts or forest fires. you know, it's in terrible state. australia. in a terrible state. australia. let me tell though, this is let me tell you though, this is quite extraordinary that the police australia get police officers in australia get a £47,000 starting salary and they get a free house. so we're just not looking after our police. hang on a second. it's

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break very good morning. welcome back to bev turner today on gb news, i'm going to be dropping into the reform uk press conference shortly. that leader richard tice, a friend of our show, in fact out the challenges fact will set out the challenges faced the nation 12 faced by the nation after 12 years control . rishi years of tory control. rishi sunakis years of tory control. rishi

sunak is set to deliver his first domestic speech of the new year in about an hour's time, vowing ensure that every vowing to ensure that every student england study student in england will study some until at least some form of math until at least the age of 18. he knew something about the nhs. please. also about the nhs. please. i'm also going back at the going to be doing back at the studio the breakfast pop on studio at the breakfast pop on my suzanne my brilliant panel, suzanne evans pound. that's evans and steven pound. that's all after. look at the all coming up after. look at the latest news . hello. good morning latest news. hello. good morning . it's 11:01 latest news. hello. good morning . it's11:01 on tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom the prime minister is to announce plans for all pupils in england to study some form of maths until the age of 18. in his first speech of 2023, rishi sunak will lay out his priorities for the year ahead, including re—imagining our approach to numeracy . re—imagining our approach to numeracy. he'll argue re—imagining our approach to numeracy . he'll argue letting numeracy. he'll argue letting children into the workplace without masks . mills is letting without masks. mills is letting them down as their future jobs will require more analytical skills . schoolteacher and maths skills. schoolteacher and maths and at bobby seagull says a significant need for increased

focus on numeracy. one of the headune focus on numeracy. one of the headline stats that the prime minister talked about was that there were 8 million adults in england . that's one in two. now england. that's one in two. now the numeracy skills that we'd expect from an 11 year old primary school child, and that's what i think is the key failing. you passed an exam at you might have passed an exam at 16, but ten, 12 years down the line, when you get your your mortgage you get like a mortgage bill or you get like a bank statement, do you understand what's on? so understand what's going on? so i think translating the think it's translating the math skills paper to real life skills on paper to real life numeracy application . throwaway numeracy application. throwaway lines are close, with only a fifth of services running as 40,000 rail workers strike again today. rmt members across network rail and 14 train companies are on day two of a 48 hour strike in a dispute over pay, hour strike in a dispute over pay, jobs and conditions. train drivers in the aslef union will strike on thursday, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday. rmt boss mick lynch told us this message is that we do

apologise for the inconvenience and we are working towards getting a solution. but there are a lot of people that are frustrated. we've got the health workers, education workers, firefighters are all getting the same treatment from the government to government that they seem to want extend the agony and not want to extend the agony and not give people square deal. all give people a square deal. all we want is a square deal for our members. and if we can create a settlement settlement . a british settlement settlement. a british man has been shot dead in jamaica in st james. sean patterson , a personal trainer patterson, a personal trainer from west london , was found with from west london, was found with gunshot wounds by the pool at the guesthouse where he was staying on monday. local media say a man is now in. well let's cross now to western minster where we can hear from the leader of the reform party, richard tice, who is to outline the prime minister's plans, big plans, the big issues. well unbelievable. he wants give mass lawlessness . i'll be touching on lawlessness. i'll be touching on that a bit later. but let's look

at the prospects. a new year should be a time for new hope, new ambition is new aspiration news. it is, of course , a time news. it is, of course, a time you think about what's our potential as an individual. as a family. as a community. and our potential as a country . and we potential as a country. and we should, of course , be should, of course, be a successful nation , lowly taxed , successful nation, lowly taxed, growing faster, high growth economy. we should have high quality, prompt, public services, giving great outcomes . we should have cheap energy. after all, we're sitting on trillions and trillions of pounds worth of our own energy treasure. yeah, we should have zero waiting lists, of course , zero waiting lists, of course, with our health care system . we with our health care system. we should have efficient government spending , no wasteful spending, no wasteful governments meddling. and of course, we should be smartly

regulated, putting clearly post brexit it all of these things are within our gifts as a nation . but all of these things require leadership . bold, clear require leadership. bold, clear decision making. no nonsense. no waffle , no spin . it's all doable waffle, no spin. it's all doable . but what have we got instead? well, we've had 12 years of government by various incarnations of what i call the con socialists taxes the highest for 70 years. government spending the highest for about 50 years. inflation the highest for 30 years, plus . i'm for 30 years, plus. i'm productive anti collapsing everywhere. the lowest for at least 30 years. and then there's the strikes . who isn't striking

the strikes. who isn't striking at the moment in the public sector is probably the right question to ask. the strikes that levels we haven't seen since . the 1970s and i touched since. the 1970s and i touched on energy . we've got so much on energy. we've got so much treasure within the uk territory and yet we've got the highest energy prices ever. that's literally making the nation and all of us poorer and colder. just think that we've got our own energy that we all own as a nafion own energy that we all own as a nation . and yet we're poorer and nation. and yet we're poorer and colder because . we're not using colder because. we're not using our own energy, treasure . and our own energy, treasure. and then finally , nhs waiting lists then finally, nhs waiting lists then finally, nhs waiting lists the highest ever. people have come to accept waiting lists as the norm . when i talk zero the norm. when i talk zero waiting lists, people look at me as though i've walked off miles

for, heaven's sake. seriously most western nations don't have waiting lists . the prime waiting lists. the prime minister this afternoon is going to re announce the ambition that you can see a gp within 14 days. i was recently in australia and talked about the supposed tory ambition . they laughed at me. ambition. they laughed at me. they said the previous in australia you couldn't see a gp within a day. we have to lift our we have to lift our ambitions. we can do this . it ambitions. we can do this. it requires leadership. it requires real reform . and you look at real reform. and you look at that list of what's going on in the uk today and you can draw one simple conclusion . after 12 one simple conclusion. after 12 years, the tories have broken britain. they have literally wrecked our country. it's not their country . it's wrecked our country. it's not their country. it's our wrecked our country. it's not their country . it's our country. their country. it's our country. and they've broken it . what

and they've broken it. what works at the moment in broken britain , public services , the britain, public services, the nhs , railways, royal mail, nhs, railways, royal mail, border force , what's really border force, what's really working ? immigration. complete working? immigration. complete utterly out of control as admitted the home secretary, she admitted the home secretary, she admitted that they've lost control of our borders . surely control of our borders. surely one of the most important things that a government can do is to maintain secure borders, to know who's coming in and who's going out . they kept saying that one out. they kept saying that one of the brexit advantages that many of us fought for so hard was to take control of our borders. but now the tories have completely abandoned it . nearly completely abandoned it. nearly 46,000 and illegal migrants coming across the . channel, over coming across the. channel, over

1.1 million. in addition new people coming into the country on a gross basis in year to june 20, 22. law and order is complete utterly collapsing up and down the country and tragically , you see that in just tragically, you see that in just completely random murders with guns , with knives in the festive guns, with knives in the festive season , the charging rate has season, the charging rate has literally slumped in the last few years . to just 5.4. that's few years. to just 5.4. that's charge that's not convicted so. criminals know that the real likelihood is that they will get away with whatever crimes they are committing . drugs, gangs , are committing. drugs, gangs, taking over our town centres and cities laundering , their money, cities laundering, their money, their vast profits . it's all their vast profits. it's all completely and utterly out of .

completely and utterly out of. and then we've got a record number of people on out of work benefits. some 5.2 million people. it's the highest ever. it's 1.5 people. it's the highest ever. it's1.5 million more than . but it's1.5 million more than. but on top of that , there's another on top of that, there's another 2 million people on in—work benefits . that's essentially benefits. that's essentially where businesses are being subsidised to keep pay at low levels and they're being subsidised by the taxpayer . subsidised by the taxpayer. where's the common sense in that? and yet , despite all of that? and yet, despite all of this , despite so many people who this, despite so many people who trapped on benefits , big trapped on benefits, big business, the multinational corporations and their lobbying group, the cbi, what do they want. do they want to train our great young people? they want get them into work to help them. to motivate them. no, no. they

to abandon them and just import ever more cheap overseas labour. they don't want to train up to , they don't want to train up to, skill up our own young . it's skill up our own young. it's a complete reckless abandonment of . young british people . all of . young british people. all of this . all of this. . young british people. all of this . all of this . after 12 this. all of this. after 12 years of tory rule. there's no question they have literally broken britain. this graph here sets out the number of people on out of work benefits actually since back since nine years ago ten years ago back in 2013. and you can see we're over 5 million people on out of work benefits. and yet we're told there's a labour shortage . and that's why labour shortage. and that's why big business wants to import ever more labour, cheap labour from overseas . surely the right

from overseas. surely the right to do is to help get our own people back , work . so who can people back, work. so who can fix broken britain? well, the tories have been in charge for 12 years and they have broken things . you know, it's bad when things. you know, it's bad when people come up to me and say britain, richard, i've got people who literally resigning to go on benefits . you think to go on benefits. you think something is fundamentally wrong . and the tories have got literally no answers at all. but we're about to hear this afternoon from the prime minister his big answer, his big solution to those challenges that i've laid out in broken britain. what is his solution ? britain. what is his solution? more people should do maths until the age of 18. how many decades? rishi is that going to to take help people? to help our

country ? there's only one country? there's only one calculation that to be talked about, rishi, and that is this . about, rishi, and that is this. what is the answer when you've got a crisis plus a crisis plus a crisis ? let me tell you , we've a crisis? let me tell you, we've got a national emergency . we've got a national emergency. we've got a national emergency. we've got a national emergency. we've got a country that is broken . got a country that is broken. thatis got a country that is broken. that is the answer to that . that is the answer to that. prime minister. and you don't seem to have any solutions . seem to have any solutions. you're going to talk about some plans for the nhs, but it's just a rehash of what we've heard before . we're the only party before. we're the only party who's put forward bold , radical who's put forward bold, radical plans. now you might ask yourself, well, what's is the labour party got . well that's a labour party got. well that's a very good question. i've asked people the only thing they can think of is, wow, they want to put a vat on school fees in order to a bunch of independent schools . that's not going to schools. that's not going to deal with of the crises in

broken britain that i've just mentioned. so labour have got no solutions but reform uk have the only party to take the nose that we've got to make britain great. but to do that, you've to make britain work . and in order to britain work. and in order to make britain work , we've got make britain work, we've got make britain work, we've got make work pay . surely that is make work pay. surely that is logical . what's happened is that logical. what's happened is that the tax levels at the moment mean that for far too many actually working isn't paying and. that's why i say you've got people literally coming up to me and saying , people literally coming up to me and saying, why are people literally coming up to me and saying , why are people and saying, why are people resigning to go on benefits ? one resigning to go on benefits? one in eight of the working age population in today on out work benefits. that two main parties

don't want to talk about . don't want to talk about. there's no discussion, no debate whatsoever . it's a complete whatsoever. it's a complete abandonment of some of those in the greatest need in. our country low pay and high tax means that too many people who want to work are actually being trapped in a spiral of being on benefits . and that is an benefits. and that is an absolute tragedy . now, as we've absolute tragedy. now, as we've grown in the polls and we've got momentum more , more people, the momentum more, more people, the media is starting to pay attention. but our key economic policy has been the same since day one, since we launched reform uk, and that is in order to make work pay. we've got to dramatically change the threshold . the starting point at threshold. the starting point at which people start income tax . which people start income tax.

now average salary is around about now average salary is around abou t £30,000 a year and people about £30,000 a year and people are paying income tax from 12 and a half thousand pounds. are paying income tax from 12 and a half thousand pounds . and and a half thousand pounds. and the chancellor seems to think it's a good idea to freeze that level out into the out into the aether until 27, 28, that sort of time . i say no , we've got to of time. i say no, we've got to make work pay and that means you lift the starting point from 12 and a half thousand pounds to £20,000. that's still about two thirds of the average . and let's thirds of the average. and let's remember when income tax was introduced introduced , by the introduced introduced, by the way, as a temporary . hundreds of way, as a temporary. hundreds of years ago , it was supposed to be years ago, it was supposed to be a tax on the. but it's now a tax. but the least well—off, the lowest paid, the poorest, the. if we do that, if we lift the threshold, the starting point

from 12 and a half grand to 20 grand, that frees . 6 million grand, that frees. 6 million people from paying any income tax whatsoever . that's about 30 tax whatsoever. that's about 30 quid a week for people on low incomes . quid a week for people on low incomes. that is quid a week for people on low incomes . that is a quid a week for people on low incomes. that is a significant difference. 1500 pounds a year. all of a sudden , the scales drop all of a sudden, the scales drop from people's eyes and you can say, yes, i can see how you make work pay . and then you see what work pay. and then you see what happens. the attraction is to get people off benefits . now the get people off benefits. now the cost of this , of course there's cost of this, of course there's a cost to it on a net basis it's around about 40 billion a year. but no one's talking about the that it's much less inflationary if you lift the threshold at which people start paying income tax . then the current, which is tax. then the current, which is all about how much to increase

the gross salaries . so for the gross salaries. so for example an average nurse , if you example an average nurse, if you lift the income tax threshold to 20 grand, that's about a 6% net take home increase for the average nurse . 6. now, the average nurse. 6. now, the nurses are asking for 19. so you can suddenly see that actually you're a real significant difference and that it's much less inflationary to lift the starting point for paying income tax than it is to increase gross salaries . and that's why on the salaries. and that's why on the health care plan that we announced back in december, we're saying that all of the frontline health and social care workers , all of them should pay workers, all of them should pay zero basic rate income tax for the next three years. just think about. and i set out how to pay firms that would help retain staff. it would help solve the current strikes. and it would help bring staff back into

health care and social care. we all know the problems in the health care system . we're the health care system. we're the only people with a big, bold , only people with a big, bold, radical solution . and if we lift radical solution. and if we lift the income tax threshold to 20 grand, all of a sudden for those low pay for those on benefits it pays to go to work . and we have pays to go to work. and we have to have a proper debate and to come up with real ways to motivate, to train , to infuse . i motivate, to train, to infuse. i say, let's set a target. let's get million people who currently are out of work benefits into , are out of work benefits into, full time work. are out of work benefits into, full time work . we know there's full time work. we know there's a labour shortage . so let's use a labour shortage. so let's use own great people rather than import people from overseas. let's train them. let's infuse them. that surely is the right thing to do. it's an absolute tragedy of wasted talent for the

individuals themselves . the individuals themselves. the extra dignity, feeling of achievement , extra dignity, feeling of achievement, earning to put extra dignity, feeling of achievement , earning to put food achievement, earning to put food on the table, to pay one's own bills is huge for them. their families their children , their families their children, their communities . and therefore, of communities. and therefore, of course , for the country. and if course, for the country. and if you've got 2 million people off out of work benefits back into work, then there's a massive , work, then there's a massive, massive saving on our benefits bill. it's in. massive saving on our benefits bill. it's in . the of 30 to £40 bill. it's in. the of 30 to £40 billion a year now. it's not going happen overnight. but with determination, with right focus, with the right efforts , with the with the right efforts, with the right motivation , we could right motivation, we could achieve that. and let's be ambitious and say we achieve that on a two year time frame . that on a two year time frame. so you can see that if we make work pay . all of a sudden we go

work pay. all of a sudden we go a huge way towards helping resolving the current cost of living crisis. why so many people are thinking about striking or being forced strike. we can get people back into work, which good for them for their own health, own families, and good for the country . and good for the country. welcome back. that was richard tice there talking at westminster this morning, the leader of the reform party . i leader of the reform party. i want to get a response from my panel want to get a response from my panel, suzanne evans and stephen pound, of what? what do you make of richard tyson, his ambitions, suzanne? you see, i really like what reform reform party what the reform reform party stands i like their stands for. i like their policies. i don't like presentation . i think that was presentation. i think that was a quite a dull speech. i agreed with almost every word that richard said. but no kind of other room where we want. why do we have something? i'm sorry. i

think politics is not just policies. it is about personalities . it's sad, but personalities. it's sad, but true. it shouldn't be. but it is. and you know, i didn't hear a single joke. i didn't really see much smiling. i didn't see any him trying to really embrace his his audience. i look at actually, i think look to see those. but then i'm sorry if you don't, you've got to have nerves of steel in politics. i hope you're right. stephen knows this, and haven't got this, and if you haven't got that, it's not the that, then maybe it's not the job you. now, course, job for you. now, of course, richard tice a conservative richard tice was a conservative party member until mean, party member until 2019. i mean, you know, he's cut and paste conservative. martin is still there and his blue tie and a lot of what he's talking about, stephen, is good old fashioned tradition , no conservatism. tradition, no conservatism. i mean it will be popular. well, i have no doubt that it will. and, you know, he's obviously got a good chance, i think. is it in hartlepool that. yeah, i think he stood last on it and he's announced that he'll probably stand there again but look content. presentation, stand there again but look conte the presentation, stand there again but look conte the background. ation, stand there again but look conte the background. ation blue, poor. the background. the blue, blue. i mean, you can see who he's whose he's trying to mop up

. it . i think he he's whose he's trying to mop up . it. i think he could . i found it. i think he could do it. i mean, the point is that they're up about nine, 10, that their approach in the stage with if above that, then they if they go above that, then they start to be serious contenders. at the moment, they're not how they selling. was in they were selling. that was in they were selling. that was in the latest. i think it a the latest. so i think it was a matt goodwin piece of research matt goodwin a piece of research that reform on 9% the tories were only so they were were only 20. so they were headlining as we are. we headlining that as we are. we have moment we get have at the moment we will get half many as the half as many votes as the conservative doesn't give you half seats though it half as many seats though it doesn't. doesn't you're doesn't. it doesn't you're absolutely labour absolutely right. but labour then time on 47% when then at the time on 47% when suzanne if how could they genuine contenders what would they need to do? well, i think it's bit like of course, reform is actually an extension of the old ukip in way we've seen it. it started as ukip, it became the brexit party. then it became reform and let's not forget that these small parties of ukip is arguably, i think, the most successful political party ever because it actually achieved its primary goal set, started out as a rabble rousing new party to

try get of the union and try and get out of the union and it achieved that. it did it by snapping at the heels of the conservative party. and when it got a point in the got to a certain point in the polls above that 10% point, that's the tories to panic. that's when the tories to panic. that's david cameron that's when david cameron promised the referendum. that's when started tumbling. when the whole started tumbling. and. well, here's a question i would and i no doubt he would ask, and i no doubt he could. he's very prepared to answer this on gb news this evening nigel farage evening. but would nigel farage be asset , evening. but would nigel farage be asset, public facing be an asset, a public facing asset reform ? see, i, i asset for the reform? see, i, i have huge admiration for nigel farage and everything. he's achieved the problem is, and he said this himself, he is marmite . but you either love him or you hate him. so i'm afraid he's always going to have kind of, always going to have a kind of, always going to have a kind of, a at which he tops out in a point at which he tops out in the polls and he's going to the polls and he's not going to get beyond that. i don't think to be able to ever be prime minister and leave country. minister and leave the country. i wondering i mean, i was wondering where nigel i mean, nigel was. i mean, nigel farage's a show on farage's presents a show on this. i know he does in that. i know think fast he pulled know think pretty fast he pulled me a point night and then me a point one night and then a chase look in some ways chase but look in some ways nigel farage's most politician

of 25 years but you of the last 25 years but you know come nowhere to know to come from nowhere to where came. on other where he came. on the other hand, the most hand, one of the most unsuccessful politicians i stood for parliament 11 times or something, come something, never even come close. i think we need see close. i think we need to see a bit more of him from from a labour point view. i'm but labour point of view. i'm but i'll labour till i die. it i'll be labour till i die. it just to be what i am. just happens to be what i am. but to see a bit of but i want to see a bit of diversity. i don't like the idea of massive majorities and of having massive majorities and i think in all honesty, we actually into an area actually moving into an area much of retail politics much more of retail politics now. knows in now. i mean, everybody knows in the 96% of the votes the fifties, 96% of the votes cast were either for one of the two parties that every that's gone down, gone down, gone down, that's gone down, we now green we've had now have green mp, we've had independent know, independent mp. you know, there's change taking there's more of a change taking place i think the old place and i think that the old loyalty my father voted loyalty as my father voted laboun loyalty as my father voted labour, therefore labour labour, therefore voted labour doesn't anymore . richard doesn't apply anymore. richard tice actually get it game tice could actually get it game up a little bit and have a little of farage. and yes, i may disagree with 99% of what nigel farage says. but you know, as a as now as a retired person, i quite admire the way he presents it. it's know it's hard to put some aside distinguish at the

some aside to distinguish at the between the between labour and the conservative lives and actually reform was quite different talking about tapping into the natural resources you know people say it's a nostalgic , people say it's a nostalgic, perhaps nostalgic kind vision. perhaps a nostalgic kind vision. but anyway, we've got to move . but anyway, we've got to move. we've no that we'll be we've no doubt that we'll be talking more. fracking is talking a lot more. fracking is not the future. not nostalgic. it's the future. well, yeah. there we go. right there. we listed buildings. you've some that are. well done. stamp out the building things. kevin mccloud from grand designs is a bit of a gear change, isn't it? he has been calling for a new great three listing classification to protect millions of britons most iconic structures from demolition. as one of britain's most iconic structures . steven pound, what structures. steven pound, what do you think about i could do with preservation order , but we with preservation order, but we had a problem on my patch i. i should chair the planning committee in ealing and we had a norman foster building which was like a box liquorice. like a box of liquorice. allsorts the allsorts it has a the multi—coloured green and blue and tubes. and i and yellow little tubes. and i made mistake at the public inquiry saying more like inquiry saying it's more like norman norman norman wisdom than norman foster, which, know,

foster, which, you know, it's just anyway, just a casual throwaway. anyway, the of hell were the hordes of hell were unleashed me and. i was told unleashed at me and. i was told a dreadful philistine. and of course they listed the thing and it goes, it's empty. nobody just up the old up the road. the old glaxo factory. there's great factory. there's a great brutalist concrete which brutalist concrete block which is and is used for vivisection. and because it's concrete and it's a bit like goldfinger's the toilet out , it's not bit like goldfinger's the toilet out, it's not going to preservation order. i think we need to be a little bit sensible about that we shouldn't past about that we shouldn't the past in certain things in aspic there's certain things we obviously but the we should keep obviously but the other things particularly the more stuff, mean, do we more recent stuff, i mean, do we really, need to keep some really, really need to keep some of buildings that of these dreadful buildings that have up the in have been thrown up in the in last 25, yeah even what last 25, 3019? yeah even what a philistine you love philistine you are. i love trillick tower. i think it's brilliant. and i think actually it's really good why it's a really good example why we preserve history. we need to preserve history. look that mid—century look at that mid—century building , look at that mid—century building, mid—century look at that mid—century building , mid—century furniture look at that mid—century builieverybody-century furniture look at that mid—century builieverybody hatedry furniture look at that mid—century builieverybody hated it.:urniture look at that mid—century builieverybody hated it. theere that everybody hated it. they pred that everybody hated it. they ripped out of their homes. it's become again. it's become popular again. it's telling about the in telling us about the one in ealing. that that way. no, ealing. that is that way. no, no, it's only a 40 is. it's near islington isn't it. no islington way isn't it. yeah. no it's not as far as you can see as you come in on the a40 it's

yeah. it's actually in westminster. fabulous, iconic, iconic. the iconic. and it did have the architect had had a character in architect had had a character in a villain named after a james bond villain named after him. there's story about him. well there's a story about that, but probably take too that, but it probably take too long to explain anyway. but this i think a great idea. i think this is a great idea. i've absolutely with kevin mccloud currently mccloud on this i'm currently converting two listed converting a grade two listed barn. oh, wow . you're right. barn. oh, wow. you're right. massive, massive job. so i really appreciate the attempt to save and restore listed buildings . and this is what i am buildings. and this is what i am trying to do. but have to say it is at vast expense. and this is, i think, where we need to bring in some new policy here. there used to be a policy that if were doing repairs to listed buildings, you only paid 5% vat that was scrapped even though you to jump through all of you had to jump through all of hoops you had to rebuild hoops and you had to rebuild things as they were to things exactly as they were to maintain the historic character. so i think owners of listed buildings could do with a little bit more yeah, i am bit more support. yeah, i am literally having to spend tens of thousands of pounds on red tape because the building is listed again. i think that's a

massive to actually restoring our heritage. you do resent doing it because you do. well, i do. i do . i do believe it should do. i do. i do believe it should be at present. but i resent having to spend money on bureaucracy instead of actually putting into fabric of putting it into the fabric of the building. do resent it, the building. i do resent it, but this idea of bringing in a new classification of grade three for lesser important, important but still nonetheless important but still nonetheless important buildings , i think is important buildings, i think is very sensible . i get fed up of very sensible. i get fed up of walking down what were once beautiful victorian streets of terraced houses in london in particular. and you see every single sash window has been pred single sash window has been ripped out and replaced with vile, you see. but that's they're really noisy. and when i carry them, i've just had i have another grade two listed property again expensive i've just put in double glazed new timber sash windows they cost a fortune it when you shop around i managed to get a good quite well you know shop around but i just think that is fundamentally wrong history is vital the wrong our history is vital the character , our streets it's so character, our streets it's so important have beautiful

buildings in this country. our heritage is it really is the envy of the world and we need to isn't that the key issue? do we want live the past or do we want to live the past or do we want to live the past or do we want live in a warm, want to live in a warm, insulated future? and i see why want to live in a warm, insican'ti future? and i see why want to live in a warm, insican't have re? and i see why want to live in a warm, insican't have a? and i see why want to live in a warm, insican't have a balance;ee why want to live in a warm, insican't have a balance between we can't have a balance between the two, you know, i mean, had a loft conversion in my house and it was very difficult because i live in a conservation area which bought when was on which i bought it when i was on the council. but, you know, the fact you've got to fact is, if you've got to actually i know i do regret actually work i know i do regret that because i mean, that now. no, because i mean, but certainly on the cuckoo estate, you know, i live, estate, you know, where i live, it a conservation area. so we it is a conservation area. so we have to actually have what's called continuity of streetscene, have to streetscene, where you have to continuously. reality continuously. but in reality has to think you're to be a balance. i think you're absolutely do we really absolutely right. do we really want the wind howling through the and pumping more and the windows and pumping more and more and energy? more heat, more and more energy? we've got have better insulation. it beyond insulation. is it beyond the wit of man actually of woman and man to actually a thing beautiful and at thing which is beautiful and at the time well—insulated. the same time well—insulated. and i think we fetishise the past you do. you past too much. you can do. you can do both. you know, william morris don't have anything morris said don't have anything in home. isn't in your home. this isn't beautiful believed . be

beautiful or believed. be beautiful or believed. be beautiful useful. i that's beautiful to be useful. i that's a very good principle for everybody doing everybody when they're doing renovations decorating or renovations or decorating or whatever. i think we need to whatever. and i think we need to abide well, looking at abide by that. well, looking at states carpet after christmas states my carpet after christmas i it's neither beautiful i don't it's neither beautiful nor useful at the moment but a little glimpse into my domestic chaos. william morris is spinning in his grave, so he's got barn splashes got looking at the barn splashes on car after my teenager had on my car after my teenager had the herself. an but the house to herself. an but anyway fatal coming up nearly half disabled adults have had half of disabled adults have had to cut back on energy use. this is a really sad story. we're going find out after going to find out why after morning's news. don't go anywhere . good morning . it's anywhere. good morning. it's 1131. i'm tamsin roberts the gb newsroom with the headlines . the newsroom with the headlines. the prime minister is to announce plans . all pupils in england to plans. all pupils in england to study some form of maths until the age of 18. in his first speech of the year, rishi will lay out his priorities for the year ahead, including re—imagining our approach to numeracy , he'll argue, letting

numeracy, he'll argue, letting children into the workplace without math skills is , letting without math skills is, letting them down as their future jobs will require more analytical school teacher and maths ambassador bobby seagull says there's a significant need for increased on maths. one of the headunes increased on maths. one of the headlines stars that the prime minister talked about was that there were 8 million adults in england , that's one in two. now england, that's one in two. now the numeracy skills that we'd expect from an 11, your primary school child, that's what i think is the key failing. you might have passed an exam, 16. might have passed an exam, a 16. but 12 years down the line, but ten. 12 years down the line, when you get your your mortgage bill you get like a bank bill or you get like a bank statement, do you understand what's on? so think it's what's going on? so i think it's translating skills on translating the math skills on paper to real life numeracy applicant . around half of applicant. around half of britain's railway lines are closed , with only a fifth of closed, with only a fifth of services running . as 40,000 rail services running. as 40,000 rail workers strike again , rmt workers strike again, rmt members across rail and 14 train companies are on day to have a 48 hour strike in a dispute . 48 hour strike in a dispute. paid jobs and conditions. train

drivers in the aslef union will strike on thursday, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike . on. a second 48 hour rmt strike. on. food inflation hit a record 13.3% last month due to soaring prices. that's up from 12.4% in the previous month. it comes , as the previous month. it comes, as the previous month. it comes, as the latest price index showed overall shop price inflation eased slightly to 7.3% in december . a eased slightly to 7.3% in december. a leading doctor warned toothbrushes are a luxury item as soaring costs are forcing families to buy food over toothbrush and toothpaste . over toothbrush and toothpaste. in an interview with the british medical journal , dr. camilla medical journal, dr. camilla kingdon says the state of children's teeth is alarming evidence of how the cost of living is impacting . health tv living is impacting. health tv online and dab+ radio. this is.

gooditis good it is 1135 on wednesday, 4th of january, the 10th day on gb news. now the resolution foundation found that around 48% of disabled adults have had to cut back on energy use the winter period. the think tank has also found that those who are housebound or suffering limited mobility may be more affected by rising heating bills due to increased time spent in the home. so let's get more reactions from gb news viewer and listener jack milnes to find out how this how this is. good morning . thank you so much for morning. thank you so much for joining us. i believe you suffer from chronic pain. i understand . and so i guess day , day life . and so i guess day, day life is already difficult without having to worry so much about

whether you're putting the heating on or not. yeah, well i've had to turn the heating off. now that the cold spell has gone. off. now that the cold spell has gone . so i'm using, you know , gone. so i'm using, you know, jackets and scarves to. try and keep warm . it's life. it'sjust keep warm. it's life. it's just become a serious exercise and not austerity, really trying to cut back on everything . cut back on everything. christmas pretty much killed me . not just the cost of energy , . not just the cost of energy, but the cost of food , the cost but the cost of food, the cost of petrol for the car . of petrol for the car. everything is just too expensive at the moment. i'm seriously into my overdraft facility , so into my overdraft facility, so the prospects for the next three months are just try and keep the bills down as much as possible and hopefully come march when the when the help finishes . then

the when the help finishes. then be in a position where i'm no longer . so jack, be in a position where i'm no longer. so jack, i'm so be in a position where i'm no longer . so jack, i'm so i'm so longer. so jack, i'm so i'm so sorry. it's it sounds just unimagined hard, actually. and can you explain to us how disabled people often have greater demands for electricity for and fuel in the house and what that of extra energy is needed for it? well, it's powering you. i mean, it's powering you. i mean, it's powering my wheelchair. it's the bed . the chair is a recliner and bed. the chair is a recliner and everything's electric to try and help me . so it's a semi it's help me. so it's a semi it's impact. i mean, my hobby is woodworking. i can't do that at the moment because the cost of running power tools is just too exorbitant . so it's a case of exorbitant. so it's a case of just sitting and trying to stay warm when you're just sat all

the time, you you get extra cold anyway , i've got some arthritis anyway, i've got some arthritis us and that's making my hands when they get cold i can't grip things so you know i can't do hobbyi things so you know i can't do hobby i can't i can't do anything really. it's just it's just a waiting game. and i'm so sorry. it'sjust just a waiting game. and i'm so sorry. it's just awful . and when sorry. it's just awful. and when you when you hit rishi sunak, he's going to make his kind of maiden speech, his biggest speech since becoming prime minister this afternoon . but you minister this afternoon. but you hear that one of the main headunesis hear that one of the main headlines is that 18 year olds are going to have to learn. how does that make you feel . so does that make you feel. so disappointed, i suppose i've always been conservative, but i can't honestly vote conservative anymore to the extreme . i've put anymore to the extreme. i've put my name forward for reform at the next election . i like

the next election. i like richard tice . i like the richard tice. i like the policies and i think we can be the next government within reform . conservative values. so reform. conservative values. so i'm putting the people first rather than it's in their own self—interest . okay. all right. self—interest. okay. all right. thank you, jack . self—interest. okay. all right. thank you, jack. i self—interest. okay. all right. thank you, jack . i really thank you, jack. i really appreciate you joining us, because i just think it's an area that we need to and we need to focus on. we know we are the people's channel. and it's wonderful to hear from you and the reality of these policies that we hear about and how difficult this is for people . difficult this is for people. all the best. thanks, jack. thank you very much. both moving is next. just extraordinary , is next. just extraordinary, right? moving on. the chief negotiator of network rail has raised hopes that an end to rail strikes is on the horizon, saying that a deal with the rmt is now within touching distance on national reporter ellie costello been looking at the knock on impact of the worst rail strikes in 30 years. halfway into the first week of

2023, but already familiar sight of strike action . yes, again, of strike action. yes, again, britain has been left with a skeleton service on the rails. the biggest national strike in 30 years this week , five days of 30 years this week, five days of travel chaos. it starts with the rmt 48 hour strike on tuesday and wednesday has left the train drivers union walk out on thursday and a second 48 hour walkout by the rmt will come on friday and. today marks the 21st day of action by the rmt june of last year . so how are the last year. so how are the british public about outmanoeuvred by brown, who got caught out last and i'll make it short. get out this stock. i have a strategy in place. do you agree with the reason why this strike in or wholeheartedly is going to be very inconvenient? so you know, and it's hurting the people . it's actually, you the people. it's actually, you know, that's i don't see the point. so there's other ways

trying to get your point , i trying to get your point, i think, rather than , you know, think, rather than, you know, hurt the people , use the hurt the people, use the service. i definitely support the way of choice . i support the way of choice. i support anybody striking for better pay. it's a blame game . both sides it's a blame game. both sides say they are willing to negotiate, but there's no public sign of these talks. actually taking place. get off the picket round the negotiating table and let's get these damaging strikes to an end. there's a fair and reasonable offer on the table for the people you represent. make. so let's get round the table and let's see if we can get the dispute out. if there's an invite, we'll be there today, tomorrow or whenever it that tomorrow or whenever it is that they want get there. but they want to get there. but there to change. we've there has to be a change. we've been hearing the same stuff for months that they want to months or more that they want to facilitate a settlement. what i got to prove that now is estimated rail strikes have estimated the rail strikes have cost bars , restaurants cost bars, restaurants and hotels in the uk. at least £1.5 billion in december alone . it is billion in december alone. it is a hugely challenging time for them and for those that are in city centres. the rail strikes

are in badly, hammering a final nail their coffin as they see a big loss of revenue. they are the collateral damage of these rail strikes. it's unlikely that the strikes themselves will put them out of business, but that perfect storm of a cost of doing business, soaring energy bills, food inflation, wage rates, inflation , and a cost of living inflation, and a cost of living crisis for the consumer downturn means that the businesses in the middle are struggling survive. we've lost two and a half thousand over the last quarter. we anticipate will lose many again the forthcoming again in the forthcoming quarter. the night time industry is a estimates that its members £2 billion in the month of december , usually a key time for december, usually a key time for the hospitality sector to gain revenue . they will now struggle revenue. they will now struggle to survive through a traditionally quieter month of the year. ellie costello susan evans and stephen pound are still with me. thoughts on strikes, suzanne . yeah, i think strikes, suzanne. yeah, i think the rail strikes in particular are getting to the point now where they're starting to lose pubuc where they're starting to lose public sympathy in i think and i

think it's becoming self—defeating in a way these five days of strikes when people are going back to work after the christmas breaks. absolutely devastating for many people who will just be thinking if they can, we'll just carry on working from. and of course, in the longer term the more people that work from home, the less money that's going to be available for the they're already the railways. they're already subsidised to the tune of around £11 billion a year. we're already spending 47% of gdp on pubuc already spending 47% of gdp on public services. how much more money we supposed to inject in into pay rises and, so on and so forth? for people who and they want above inflation pay rises, most of us aren't going to be getting that. no, not private sector , only on disability. so sector, only on disability. so i think public sympathy is probably waning to an end. i think so. stephen obviously the unions are huge funders of the labour party , not the rmt. they labour party, not the rmt. they don't touch us . right. okay. but don't touch us. right. okay. but so is there any politics being played here , though? i mean. played here, though? i mean. well you know, this does make

all of these strikes do make the conservatives look bad. yes. but equally , as you know, i was equally, as you know, i was around in 79. and one of the reasons that, you know, thatcher came in was because it looked like we were out of control. and before that, edward heath and the miners. who governs britain? well, britain not well, you know, britain said not you, but there always you, mate, but there is always that. think the issue is that. but i think the issue is subsidies very, very subsidies are very, very important. but you're important. but i think you're right to touch on it. look, at the no the moment, i've got no objection subsidies. some of objection to subsidies. some of the most efficient transport systems subsidy. systems in have subsidy. what annoys subsidy paid annoys me is subsidy being paid to private shareholder holders? now, a situation now, when we have a situation germany, switzerland, germany, france, switzerland, we have systems. have efficient railway systems. there are subsidies, but the stays the system , it stays within the system, it doesn't you know, you have doesn't go. you know, you have the last week the the thing last week about the amount being out amount of money being paid out in not just from in tibet. it's not just from transport china, you know , if transport to china, you know, if you've a problem with your you've got a problem with your electricity now, got to speak french, you've got to speak to electricity because electricity to france because there's british there's no there's no british gas anything like gas or british anything like that. look subsidies all that. so, look, subsidies by all means. situation we've means. but the situation we've got now is that we're in a zero sum game. both sides are saying

we're going on this we're not going to move on this one. the government, on the one. now the government, on the one. now the government, on the one standing on the one hand, is standing on the sidelines these comments. sidelines making these comments. on other hand, they say, on the other hand, they say, well, going get on the well, we're going to get on the pitch. going in pitch. we're going to stay in the you know, shouting the terraces, you know, shouting and actually and booing. we're not actually going there. ultimately, going to get there. ultimately, the is lender of the government is the lender of last they are the people last resort. they are the people who pay. even on the london underground. maybe underground. okay. maybe for london, for london, but transport for london. from london. get their money from the government. government government. the government cannot simply abrogate, responsive bridge. they can't do a their a pontius pilot and wash their hands one. they've got hands on this one. they've got to into we're actually in to get into we're actually in a state now. you you saw the figures for the hospitality industry and it industry hospitality and just it took kicking under covid this took a kicking under covid this is last they need is the last thing they need and i believe that i genuinely don't believe that the on the underground the people on the underground want to strike not want to strike they're not getting strike they're getting strike pay. they're suffering. has a very, suffering. the rmt has a very, very war chest. know very big war chest. we know that. it's not in that. but it's not in exhaustible. i think the exhaustible. and i think the nurses i'm pretty nurses will settle. i'm pretty sure they will. i think some of the transport you have to say, you you actually do this. you know, you actually do this. the are certainly the station staff are certainly aslef settle and aslef could well settle and i the problem with some of the people around rmt is it's

people around the rmt is it's not just the issue of the strike. it's the downfall of global capitalism. it's the end of the world. and, you know, mick lynch all want for mick lynch all i want for christmas is bit of socialism christmas is a bit of socialism in a fair quite a lot of in a fair play quite a lot of socialism at the moment all socialism at the moment and all high taxes economy we're high taxes economy that we're living now. if living under right now. well, if depends how you define socialism. well yes, quite as jeremy used to say to be true. but so what, what? when do you think? because i keep drawing to mind, we've had multiple on this show. who from the hospitality industry and they've said we've gone till february march and then we're done because we can't afford the electricity bills we've got, you know, pay wise to pay, we've got, you know, pay wise to pay, we've got pension, you know, we've all of these our costs are still out. and the gas, electricity bills for the pubs and restaurants are just so crippling. this is going to have a massive impact on that. it is. i mean, i find it funny. i've thing. that's right. i mean, the fact you know, hospitality i think uk hospitality. he reckons that going to that these strikes are going to cost of the cost the hospitals of the industry 200 million alone just this businesses go out that the

tax revenue isn't coming in the government hasn't got the money to spend. i mean it's a self defeat thing circle of doom and i think unions need to wake up to this and. realise this. what did expect when we shut the economy for two years unpaid railway workers, nurses , railway workers, nurses, highways agency workers, border force to sit at home and do nothing what's interesting to see . do you honestly think the see. do you honestly think the tories can come up with some anti strike legislation? because i mean you cannot force people back the point but back to work at the point but then in general strike, then in the general strike, 1926, you old etonians 1926, you had old etonians driving driving driving buses, mostly driving them into walls. you know, i wasn't actually around in 26, but, you know, ultimately cannot say something a say even something like a minimal service. if you minimal level of service. if you said lynch ni rmt you've said to mick lynch ni rmt you've got 20% the tube got to have 20% of the tube trains running. he's got who's going choose which 20% going to choose which 20% drivers are going to do those. 20% drive are they 20% to drive drivers. are they going you've going to bring in sick. you've got negotiate. you i got to negotiate. you were i mean the point collective mean the point about collective the clues in the name it's bargaining there's got to be an

element give and take okay element of give and take okay well i think which is an idea isn't bring in some isn't it is to bring in some kind of legislation going kind of legislation that's going to arbitrary mediation to introduce arbitrary mediation . but margaret thatcher tried that testing to see if margaret thatcher couldn't make it work. i'm pretty sure that the boys doing that got know rights are food prices this honestly i just love to do this job with some news one day i'm sure there will be some 2023. i keep looking forward. cost of living. food inflation hit 39.3% in december. inflation hit 39.3% in december. i remember liam halligan in the studio with me before christmas. we were gasping at it being 10, 13.3. what what do we do about this? suzanne that is a big question. well, it is. i mean, we all go to the supermarket. we see how prices have gone up. what is it over, see how prices have gone up. what is it over , £2 now for what is it over, £2 now for a pack of butter? absolutely astonishing. and mean, it astonishing. and i mean, it partly, i think comes to what i was saying before earlier in the programme. need teach kids programme. we need to teach kids how how to how how to budget, how to how to keep household

keep clients household finances, how cook basic food. because how to cook basic food. because this those really come this is when those really come into their own when you're in tough times like but tough times like this. but that's kind of an aside that's that's kind of an aside as i said, it was inevitable . as i said, it was inevitable. this is a global problem. it's not just in this country. it's the in ukraine it's energy the war in ukraine it's energy costs, it's supply chains. it's happening the world. to happening across the world. to be fair, i think the supreme doing what they can . morrisons doing what they can. morrisons have announced today that they are investing 60 million slashing prices on 130 of their own brand items. and i know that other major supermarkets have done same they're doing that best but it's a nightmare. and i was really struck your interview with jack oh jack giles that yes the i think it's we can talk about this at a high level and talk about how dreadful it is. and we have the figures for inflation, but it hits people hard. yeah, it really does . but hard. yeah, it really does. but you know , i would i would you know, i would i would i would if i prime minister, i'd be cutting taxes i'd be actually doing a lot of what liz truss

i'd be encouraging growth, i'd be trying to get the moving again because the sooner we can get the economy moving and try and avoid recession , the more and avoid recession, the more everybody can have a better and lacking, i guess. david i mean, i'd bring that into morrow in saying we're actually importing , you know, liquid petroleum gas from america which is now self—sufficient . you know, back self—sufficient. you know, back in my day, used to have in my day, they used to have these united states navy reserve, the oil all along the south , you know, south coast, you know, from texas, right corpus christi texas, right by corpus christi nowadays , they've so much nowadays, they've got so much because . but here's because of hydraulic. but here's here's thing. waitrose. here's the thing. waitrose. yeah. doing well at yeah. they're not doing well at the moment, you and you go the moment, you know, and you go to as i do, being to waitrose as i do, being a middle class west london and, you looking for it you know, looking for them it would you cannot for life would you cannot get for life and as people being and or money as people being know used be selling know people used to be selling drugs you some drugs now the say you want some limit you know it's pretty limit but you know it's pretty tricky. but but on the other hand, just as there's a whole load cab drivers here load of cab drivers out here saying, know, i love this saying, you know, i love this rmt brilliant. rmt strike. it's brilliant. january called the january used to be called the capacity. because it was capacity. and because it was flat, no turning away, there were aldi. go were equally good aldi. you go to they're doing really

to lidl's, they're doing really well now. if morrisons well at that. now. if morrisons can prices by that can cut their prices by that much, haven't they done it before and what are we doing about produce ditching? about british produce ditching? people of people are taking advantage of this. think there's some this. i do think there's some shop strikes, you so in shop strikes, you know, so in everyone's a cost living everyone's a cost of living crisis this you can expect to pay crisis this you can expect to pay on that pints of no pay on that pints of milk. no one's going no, i'm one's going to notice. no, i'm sure you're absolutely right. and you know, morrisons have got to money. they've got to to make money. they've got to pay to make money. they've got to pay staff they've pay their staff they've got to pay pay their staff they've got to pay their staff they've got to pay their needless to pay their taxes. needless to they money goes back to they make the money goes back to germany goes germany aldi, the money goes back germany. you what's back to germany. you know what's with british with tesco's great british inventions, spencers inventions, marks and spencers are great invention. are a great british invention. why we actually build on why can't we actually build on it? why we it? but i keep saying why we supporting producers . yes, supporting local producers. yes, you are we frying lamb you know, why are we frying lamb in new zealand lately? you in from new zealand lately? you know, we've got the best know, when we've got the best lamb the world is in wales we lamb in the world is in wales we get beef from from argentina, the best beef is from northern ireland. insane. now ireland. it's insane. now talking things talking of expensive things which be considered which might be considered a luxury, you about luxury, how you feel about divorce. unhappy divorce. a third of unhappy couples cannot afford to. this is nearly three in ten married couples feel trapped in a

relationship because they cannot afford a divorce. 18% are getting a divorce. it's too expensive, even in the current climate, while 17% would not be able to afford to hire a solicitor . chris roden at solicitor. chris roden at digital wealth manager money farm commissioned this study. he said a divorce petition alone typically cost between said a divorce petition alone typically cost betwee n £500 and typically cost between £500 and 1500 pounds and that's before court costs. well, hang on, hang on. lot of people can't afford on. a lot of people can't afford to married. i mean you know to get married. i mean you know my daughter got married there was thick end of ten grand. was a thick end of ten grand. and of people pay, and as a lot of people pay, a lot more than that. i mean, i married since 1976. well done. it have 75. but it would have been 75. but fulham to the cup final and fulham got to the cup final and we have put the wedding off, we have to put the wedding off, you know. well, you know. and well, congratulations no congratulations that isn't a no no. we lost two deal to west up. no, no football's david. the what the marriage that what the marriage for all that time. achievement. time. that is an achievement. well an achievement. my well it is an achievement. my wife always said she's never thought divorce, thought of divorce, but frequently murder. look , frequently of murder. but look, the that, yes , it the reality is that, yes, it does cost a lot of money for a divorce. you know, what's divorce. but, you know, what's the alternative and think we the alternative? and i think we should look at the cost

the alternative? and i think we sh a|ld look at the cost the alternative? and i think we sh a wedding. look at the cost the alternative? and i think we sh a wedding. and, k at the cost the alternative? and i think we sh a wedding. and, you the cost the alternative? and i think we sh a wedding. and, you know, st the alternative? and i think we sh a wedding. and, you know, you of a wedding. and, you know, you can separate. i mean, there are issues do with the possessions and properties, the ultimate and the properties, the ultimate thing know and thing for me is i know and a number people who've just number of people who've just party tax. they've just party brass tax. they've just decided enough. just decided enough's enough. we just them. of all, this is them. but most of all, this is having quite couple. having a quite brutal couple. they they're awful, they are. they're awful, particularly involves particularly when it involves child yeah, that's child custody. yeah, that's where the lovely. i've been through it. it's not pleasant mean. friend of mine mean. a very wise friend of mine once said to me, she said, if you think a wedding is expensive, wait till you see how much going much a divorce costs. it's going to ten times more. and to be ten times more. and really, she was really, i think she was absolutely, absolutely right. a wedding actually doesn't to wedding actually doesn't have to cost money. if you want cost a lot of money. if you want a big free free for all can cause and bridesmaids and flowers and a huge reception fine course can't fine but of course can't actually cheaply and actually marry very cheaply and it expensive in it should be expensive though in order from order dissuade people from taking wouldn't say taking you know i wouldn't say the same thing about marriage for people say is for people that say divorce is too i think i remember an too easy. i think i remember an old boyfriend of his old boyfriend of mine, his parents hated other. and parents hated each other. and every went to house every time went to their house it was because she he was it was hell because she he was the one the finances is the one that had the finances is it's very it's even typical

still they were still today and they were obviously older she obviously a lot older she couldn't leave him couldn't afford to leave him about leaving him could never afford to leave him and they dreadful to be with but you i mean i've been paying in for my funeral plan for years . you can funeral plan for years. you can have it. you can spend millions on futures. i'm not going to be there, so i'm that bothered there, so i'm not that bothered that fact, you have done it that in fact, you have done it by the chap i've been paying the money into you, said mr. stephenson, you've up. stephenson, you've paid up. you're more. we're you're not pay any more. we're going a really good going to give you a really good fortune. going to send fortune. i'm going to send your body back ireland. and body back to ireland. and i said, i've never actually said, well, i've never actually lived ireland. and he said, lived in ireland. and he said, are you sure? but i said, yes, my mother irish. so my mother was irish. so i imagined coffin cork on the imagined my coffin cork on the carousel go boom, boom, boom, boom. claiming it. boom. and nobody claiming it. what political what an end to my political career. an end to the show. career. what an end to the show. there we go. right. we have asking you today, rishi sunak is going announce to going to announce his plans to fix this the headline fix the uk this the headline that's making is that that's making the news is that studying will be studying maths will be compulsory until the age 18. compulsory until the age of 18. is going our problems is it going to fix our problems our poll results have been finalised of you said no finalised 92% of you said no this fix our problems

this will not fix our problems as opposed to 8% of you who voted yes. and i do know that 92 equals 100. and frankly, that's pretty much all we need to know. but we've come to the end of our show. it has flowed by. thank you so suzanne and you so much to suzanne and steve. coming up next is steve. and coming up next is steve. and coming up next is steve news live paul steve news live with paul hawkins. i'll see hawkins. bev turner, i'll see you tomorrow hello again. you tomorrow. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here with the latest forecast from the met office many today , but office drier for many today, but not for all. there is still some around and a strong wind, although that wind keeping things mild, it was a mild start to the day, especially in the south. and we've still got a lot of cloud across the uk but a better chance of breaks developing east wales into the midlands anglia, midlands east anglia, east scotland well . now for scotland as well. now for northwest as as for northwest scotland as as for wales there'll be some showers but ireland. southern but northern ireland. southern scotland and northern england seeing bulk of the rain seeing the bulk of the rain through the day. however everywhere going be everywhere it's going to be mild, certainly for mild, certainly milder for scotland recent scotland compared with recent days temperatures back around days temperatures back to around average average average here, above average across of the uk, 13 or across the rest of the uk, 13 or 14 celsius the south and 14 celsius in the south and those stay up

those temperatures stay up overnight along with this brisk breeze although the windows to ease during the hours of darkness and the rain also eventually disappears overnight with clear spells developing such a frost for northeast scotland. but elsewhere it's a mild starts to thursday , a dry mild starts to thursday, a dry start initially for many buts these fronts are coming along . these fronts are coming along. the warm front initially will be a weak feature. the cold front bringing more rain for most places. that will be later in the day on thursday. so we start the day on thursday. so we start the day on thursday. so we start the day with the cloud thickening some thickening in the west. some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. much of this north eastwards dunng much of this north eastwards during the morning . some places during the morning. some places will miss it entirely. it's a very showery feature , however, very showery feature, however, for scotland and northern ireland here the rain turns heavier and more persistent later day, especially for later in the day, especially for western areas and with a wind once again from the southwest. it's mild 14 celsius in it's a mild day, 14 celsius in london , 8 to 9 celsius for london, 8 to 9 celsius for scotland and northern ireland. but it a wet end to the day for scotland and northern ireland. the wind picking up as well as

this pushes through and. this rain pushes through and. it's really during the hours of darkness across england darkness again across england and see the rain and wales where we see the rain move through and then it turns very windy overnight for scotland particular, gales or scotland in particular, gales or even severe gales for the northwest saturday and sunday, blustery with showers some days on gb newsroom 930, it's camilla tominey for a politics show with personality. then at 11, michael portillo for topical discussion debate some ethical dilemmas and sometimes even a sense of the ridiculous. and at 1 pm. me, i was there up every sunday on gb news the channel. britain's news .