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that's than january. i mean, that's maybe bit but there's maybe a bit unfair but there's as tom as tom says , almost as tom as tom says, almost everybody expects inflation to be about four or 5% in the latter of this year. it's almost an arithmetic inevitability. that's the inflation numbers work as . the that's the inflation numbers work as. the figures drop out. this really reminded me of tony blair, 94, 95 when i was in thomas shoes as, a political correspondent , even thomas shoes as, a political correspondent, even some of thomas shoes as, a political correspondent , even some of the correspondent, even some of the language he used , beacon, that language he used, beacon, that was a sort typical blairite word . blair, of course, unveiled a five point pledge card , which he five point pledge card, which he gave to households delivered to households 18 months before that 1997 general election. it's a little bit unfair because, of course rishi sunak is a lot more experienced now than tony blair was then, but it strikes that this was all about a electioneering, this was all about personal political positioning rather than actually tackling the issues that are on the minds now of gb news viewers
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, listeners which are paying their energy . can they kid buy their energy. can they kid buy a house? and how am i going to pay for my credit card when the bill lands on the. yep. good to get some analysis from liam and from tom thank that is it from tom thank you. that is it from me. rishi says his priorities are your priorities. do you agree? giving that gbnews.uk it is just concept one in its path three patrick christys on the way to replace me. in the meantime, let's find out the latest news headlines with . latest news headlines with. tamsin paul, thank you. good afternoon . the gb newsroom. it's afternoon. the gb newsroom. it's 3:01. the prime minister has outlined five key promises out his government's priority . he's his government's priority. he's speaking in east london rishi sunak issued a series of pledges including promising to halve inflation and to tackle the rising cost of living growing the economy by pledging to create opportunities across the
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reducing the national debt, which he says will secure the future of public services cut nhs waiting lists to ensure people get care quicker and stopping the small boats, ensuring are detained and swiftly removed from the country. he said his government had already made steps towards improving the country since i became prime minister we've made progress , stabilise the economy progress, stabilise the economy and mortgage rates, provide . and mortgage rates, provide. a £26 billion of support for the cost of living invested billions more schools. the nhs and social care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from to , ukraine our collective from to, ukraine our collective economic security continued, our unwavering support for the armed forces and their efforts keep us safe and set out a concrete plan to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of course , we need to do
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. but of course, we need to do more . around half of britons more. around half of britons lines are closed and only fifth of service is running as 40,000 rail workers strike today, rmt members across network rail and 14 train companies are on day two of a 48 hour strike and a dispute over pay, jobs and conditions . train drivers in the conditions. train drivers in the aslef will strike on thursday , aslef will strike on thursday, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday rmt , boss mick strike on friday rmt, boss mick lynch told gb news the union wants a sensible agreement that everyone can support . messages everyone can support. messages that we do apologise for the inconvenience and we are working towards a solution. but there are a lot people that are frustrated. we've got the health workers, education workers, firefighters , they're all firefighters, they're all getting the same treatment from the government that they seem to want to extend the agony and not give people a square deal and all we want deal for all we want a square deal for our members and we create our members and we can create a settlement . concerns have been settlement. concerns have been raised . a lack of basic cold and
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raised. a lack of basic cold and flu medications at britain's pharmacies . the association of pharmacies. the association of independent multiple pharmacies is warning its members are running out of products such as throat lozenges and cough . they throat lozenges and cough. they say the problems arise from a lack of planning by officials at the department of health. it comes after warnings that winter illnesses such as flu circulating at high levels levels . supermarket sainsbury's levels. supermarket sainsbury's announced it's to increase wages for nearly 127,000 workers from february . workers of both february. workers of both sainsbury's and argos will see increases from sainsbury's and argos will see increases fro m £10, 25 t 0 £11. increases from £10, 25 to £11. outside staff wages inside . the outside staff wages inside. the capital will increase to nearly £12. the group said the measures were to help retain and attract new employees in a tight labour. mar record point 3% last month, due to soaring prices. that's up
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from 12.4% in the previous month. it comes as the latest price index showed the overall shop price eased slightly . to shop price eased slightly. to 7.3% in december. the british retail consortium says it was a challenging christmas for many households across the uk . the households across the uk. the british museum says it's having constructive discussions over the possible return of the elgin marbles to greece , the 17 pieces marbles to greece, the 17 pieces which make up 30% of the parthenon, sculptures of ancient greece were taken by lord in the early 19th century. but the two and a half thousand year old could soon return to athens as part of an exchange with the british museum . this gb news british museum. this gb news will bring you more news as. it happens. now it's over to patrick christys.
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you yes. welcome aboard, everybody. massive show is what we live for in the news game, isn't it? lots of breaking news now within the few minutes we've heard from the prime minister sunak, the sunak, because he addressed the nafion sunak, because he addressed the nation the first time this year in a major speech, he set out his vision for 2023, promising to deliver on a five point plan to deliver on a five point plan to halve inflation, grow the economy, reduce national cut nhs waiting lists , and stop the waiting lists, and stop the small boats crossing channel. lots of stuff there. lots of stuff. he can be held to account. so let's just remind ourselves a little bit, anyway, of what he had to say since i became prime minister , we've became prime minister, we've made progress , stabilise the made progress, stabilise the economy , people's mortgage rates economy, people's mortgage rates provided economy, people's mortgage rates provide d £26 billion of support provided £26 billion of support for the cost of living invested billions more in schools, the nhs and social deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from ukraine to our collective economic security continued our support for the
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armed forces and their efforts keep us safe and. set out a concrete to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of course we need migration. but of course we need to do more . yes, well, there we to do more. yes, well, there we go. well, how's the prime minister done enough to give you confidence to back him and conservative government. do you trust him. crucially, some that are halving inflation. okay we'll get stuck into that because maybe that was predicted anyway. but also, of course stopping the small boats and reducing the nhs waiting list . reducing the nhs waiting list. do you trust him? do you like what he said? gb news. gb news, don't you? i'm going to be going to you throughout the show. political reporter olivia utley is central for is live in central london for us. watching the speech. us. she's watching the speech. we're be going we're going to be going to ministers mp throughout the course as well. are course of this show as well. are experts. the first one olivia experts. the first one is olivia utley. olivia. lots utley. our reporter olivia. lots of things there from rishi soon now i help but wonder whether or
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not he's setting himself up for failure. like stopping failure. things like stopping small does small boats for example. does that one boat comes that mean if one boat comes across time, year, across this time, next year, then failed . well, yes, then he's failed. well, yes, it's an interesting i think it could be that rishi sunak actually has been quite careful about what he there because he's made these five promises, but only that the first one, which is halve inflation , has any kind is halve inflation, has any kind of timescale . it halve inflation of timescale. it halve inflation by the end of the year. he something which is actually predicted to happen anyway on the small boats thing you'll nofice the small boats thing you'll notice the wording introduce new laws to stop small boats so can introduce the laws which is actually stop the small boats. is there anything holding him to account any further than that ? account any further than that? talks about earning people's trust and to me the message was very much he wanted to talk about he will only he will only promise what he can deliver and actually the promises made were relatively . their scope relatively limited. their scope that said after his five promises he talked about a plan to rebuild britain beyond just
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fixing things, beyond just managing the decline that we seem to be slipping way into and on that, he touched on some very things which previous prime ministers neglected from supporting family to cutting crime . but supporting family to cutting crime. but again, supporting family to cutting crime . but again, there was very crime. but again, there was very little the specifics of it, and he was pretty to dodge the journalist are on the yeah gucci elements of at the end but this is this is really annoyed me and i think will have annoyed lot of our viewers and listeners who were glued to it and you've got the big things that look we can see the half of inflation see at the half of inflation grow economy cut debt grow the economy cut debt slashing, waiting lists, slashing, nhs waiting lists, stop okay well, let's stop the boats. okay well, let's talk then. what's talk about the nhs then. what's the going to do ? well, the actually going to do? well, exactly. and i asked about child care. we know that liz truss had a had a bunch reforms planned that would make child care completely affordable for the average . we know that child care average. we know that child care in country is, one of the in this country is, one of the most expensive in the whole of europe, that would be plan to show that is supporting the
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show that he is supporting the family. i him family. but when i asked him about just he loved his about that, he just he loved his family talking family. he's talking about family. he's talking about family. making the right family. he's making the right noises, essentially . wouldn't noises, essentially. wouldn't say about the specifics say anything about the specifics . and that was a theme, it has to said, carried to be said, which carried through speech when what through the speech when what he would about the nhs. he would do about the nhs. he talked about the that he's put into it. we know that the government is putting money into the nhs over and over again , but the nhs over and over again, but he avoided the question of structural, said. talks about structural, he said. talks about free the point of use rolled out the old mantras. but as say a lot of the what very little of the how. yes, absolutely . you the how. yes, absolutely. you look, olivia, thank you very much. i'm going now. i'm going to thrown to you throughout to be thrown to you throughout the course of this show. that's gb political reporter gb news political reporter olivia utley. he's live in central surely. anyway, olivia utley. he's live in centregoing surely. anyway, olivia utley. he's live in centregoing to surely. anyway, olivia utley. he's live in centregoing to sway. anyway, olivia utley. he's live in centregoing to sway. anyviof, we're going to get a couple of minutes and mp is on the and very shortly going be going very shortly going to be going to guru and other to our economics guru and other political is political guru as well is sitting me and the sitting he decided me and the shapes liam halligan and tom shapes of liam halligan and tom harwood. but before that i have got from both labour and got some from both a labour and conservative supporters. peter edwards editor of edwards is the former editor of
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labour robertson is labour list. andrew robertson is a broadcaster. a journalist and broadcaster. peter, with you . at peter, i will start with you. at least richard sunak has outlined some to. if some things he wants to. if i was you, i would imagine i'd be quite happy some of them quite happy because some of them are ambitious. and are quite ambitious. and frankly, was slave to frankly, i was a slave to fortune. i knee . i'm not fortune. i was knee. i'm not sure a hostage because they sure he's a hostage because they were so vague and. bear in mind, which is sunak said, where almost nothing by way of major speeches months was speeches. three months i was very taken by by philip utley and halligan because and liam halligan because they're they're not figures like me who support particular party but they were both withering about the vagueness and the smallness for example on small boats and not stopping small boats and not stopping small boats which which isn't , i said, boats which which isn't, i said, is his priority for introducing laws. but but let's zoom out a minute. we got keir starmer a speech in some ways a counterpart . we hear a lot more. counterpart. we hear a lot more. so that's also east london on the biggest priorities is inflation , 13% in terms of food. inflation, 13% in terms of food. we learned today an nhs is in crisis. a prime denies it wasn't . really anything to offer those
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know and that is a massive of contention i have it is the bane of my life as a journalist when someone just comes and says something wishy washy and there's no substance behind it because it's because actually it's a deliberate act. so see deliberate act. so we all see through that you through it. it means that you critique on the specifics critique them on the specifics when inevitably on when it inevitably goes paint on andrew, i'm going to bring you in onto the scene. in now onto the scene. a journalist and broadcaster from right, fair say. right, it would be fair to say. certainly further than certainly further right than peter. but that's not too hard. is a man buying time now? is this a man buying time now? really? sunak just watching really? you sunak just watching him what is him buying time. what else is it. hi. good afternoon to you both. what else is he to do? i mean, whatever angels he's going to be criticised either to be criticised for, either buying for trading water buying time or for trading water or for all the other things that we could. this is obviously wide shopping promises all of shopping list of promises all of which we know need to be fulfilled. he's got than two years to do it in. he's obviously not able to go into detail and the devil will be in the detail when he can do it . the detail when he can do it. but you know, at least he has to show that he's trying but there is there so much kind of narrative centred around fact
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that in for labour that it's a shoo in for labour to win election which to win the next election which i sincerely is not case sincerely hope is not the case and that you know , the like you and that you know, the like you can just take it or just say no. these are the things we're in a state of such critical need at the moment. he has to be able to spell out to some degree what what done . okay. i'm what has to be done. okay. i'm just going to stick with you for i'll go to pizza there are i'll go back to pizza there are some hot twitter most some hot takes on twitter most notably that rishi sunak does have will from the inbetweeners and cbeebies apparently is actually trending at the minute because he's supposedly was like he trying read a really dull he was trying read a really dull children's book where the children's book where is the actual ideology where's the passion, where's personality passion, where's the personality 7 passion, where's the personality ? do we have a robot in a ? do we just have a robot in a suit? oh come on. what is keir starmer, the next? pop star's obsession with tomorrow. are we asking the same questions about him? let's focus on rishi. was that why was the energy? was the excitement? vote excitement? why would you vote for him ? the thing is that , we for him? the thing is that, we had all that with boris and i was a big fan of boris. notwithstanding that, the
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mistakes, the serious mistakes that he and rishi has that he made and what rishi has emerged in the in the shadow of bofis emerged in the in the shadow of boris , therefore has to boris, and therefore he has to sort show himself to be sort of show himself to be statesman consists tend to statesman like consists tend to stabilising force . otherwise stabilising force. otherwise it's just kind , you know. boris it's just kind, you know. boris mark too, but not very good version of it. so he's if he does and if he doesn't. so i think if we if we judge him on the telegenic it's a poor show. i mean things that do make any any journalist i mean things that do make any anyjournalist particular any journalist in particular cringe. somebody asked cringe. you know somebody asked him well thanks i'm him a he goes well thanks i'm over use of people's names but that's politicians do . i that's what politicians do. i want to see him deliver on detail, obviously, and i jolly hope he can do in the two years he's got left to go big time or he's got left to go big time or he's moving. yeah. and de pater i will throw it back over to you now certainly when it comes to things like halving inflation, growing these are growing the economy, these are very labour's very vague things. but labour's i but anyway i can't help but think anyway moment of maximum opportune as he is slipping away from them because the predictions do say that our economy is probably going better anyway, going get a bit better anyway, regardless not rishi regardless of whether not rishi sunak's will sunak's debt. so he will have
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something on to and something to cling on to and people probably more so people care probably more so even than the nhs or the small hbos. crossing's fundamentally about money their about the money in their pockets. peter with a pounding your pocket is very important as what people been saying so much of my . but you're right, of my. but you're right, inflation is forecast to come down regardless of any further government next year. but i don't . it is particularly about don't. it is particularly about window of opportunity for labour because of course we know government have to lose elections , oppositions have to elections, oppositions have to win them. but when there's a change and a change of change party and a change of government, need a positive government, you need a positive narrative so the narrative as well so just the fact that economy has been fact that the economy has been in chaos and the nhs in crisis shouldn't not, should not at all. because to for anyone on the left , i think all. because to for anyone on the left, i think and to me listened very carefully, carefully. keir starmer , he has carefully. keir starmer, he has laid out what he would do, just like he's changed the party. but i suspect we'll hear a lot more on cost of living. nhs tomorrow because ultimately you're probably sick of hearing this. we've come a cliche when there's a of government because a change of government because there's vote for change and
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there's a vote for change and what keir starmer presenters see will do okay . all right, both of will do okay. all right, both of you, i would love to just keep you, i would love to just keep you on line, if that's all right, if you've got a couple of minutes to spare, i'm going to bnngin minutes to spare, i'm going to bring in my studio guests, my colleagues, friends tom colleagues, my friends tom harwood. with you for harwood. i'll start with you for the response. you i've the political response. you i've got the pulse got your finger on the pulse more kind of an open heart more than kind of an open heart surgeon. what was your take on this? think was an this? i think was an extraordinary ranging extraordinary wide ranging speech. first speech. it was the prime first opportunity out what he opportunity to lay out what he actually he actually believes, of course, he got after a very tumultuous got role after a very tumultuous time , british politics. we time, british politics. we really didn't see world of rishi sunak administrate . it was all sunak administrate. it was all about when he became prime minister. we were told that all of the pledges he'd made in the summer contest, well, summer leadership contest, well, they for nought . we were they counted for nought. we were told that it was of almost told that it was sort of almost a slate when it came to a blank slate when it came to policy. this was his first policy, domestic focussed speech as minister and our first opportunity to see what he's about beyond be is a firefight thing. and what we saw today was
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a wide ranging speech focusing not just these big five pledges. perhaps there's quite deliverable pledges over the next couple of years, but also about issues like the family , about issues like the family, like education skills, community, anti social behaviour, things that might well resonate in a great number of constituencies . he needs to of constituencies. he needs to hold that thought because he said the words deliverable . i'm said the words deliverable. i'm keen actually drill on keen to actually drill down on that pick these that liam pick apart these numbers. obviously numbers. me he's obviously trying inflation reduce trying to halve inflation reduce national the economy national debt, grow the economy rather setting himself for rather than setting himself for failure. i think he's trying to guarantee himself success, at least in own terms, by least in his own terms, by promising things certainly on the economy that are pretty almost certain to happen anyway , like inflation halving over next 12 months. it's almost a narrow thematic inevitability as same as we were saying earlier in, some i know we're pressed for time this was a kind of campaign manager written delivered by a professional politician rather than speech
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that showed true leadership and wisdom. i thought it was just a little bit tinny politically . little bit tinny politically. the nation's really concerned the finances, the christmas decorations are coming down, the bills are hitting them at where was anything on the housing. families have just spent loads of time together talking about where are we to live? how are we going to buy houses and how are we going to accommodate all we going kids? probably not going to have kids? probably not because. we can't afford to accommodate a whole speech accommodate them a whole speech saying do. and saying. what you want to do. and he mention once. that he didn't mention once. that seems pretty given that he's got a track of younger voters frankly people's tom's age your i'm older than i look so good moisturising if people your is aren't voting conservative then they're not going to win this election anyway and i didn't see anything in this for the generation and on so i'll generation and on that so i'll make him people do maths until they're sorry, but it's they're 18. i'm sorry, but it's only kind of policy only the kind of policy that could have been drawn up by us. oswalds well, was of course a smaller part this speech than smaller part of this speech than
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was and all this was trailed and it was all this innovation pledge trying to make the united most the united kingdom the most innovative country in the world and delivering gdp growth at that way. to be honest , it was that way. to be honest, it was good to hear, not talk about growth. it's rare that we do actually hear him prioritise . of actually hear him prioritise. of course, the number one issue on his mind is inflation. often thatis his mind is inflation. often that is coming at the cost of growth, clearly that one of growth, but clearly that one of his visions getting getting innovative capacity of the united kingdom all because i'm just going to bring you back in a couple of the people were waiting on the line before peter ebbers, former editor of libellous. peter, i'm aware that you've to go. can just get you've got to go. can i just get you've got to go. can i just get you of your what do you you some of your what do you want to hear from keir starmer tomorrow in response and we want to hear from keir starmer tom seen in response and we want to hear from keir starmer tom seen in iaccurate and we want to hear from keir starmer tom seen in iaccurate you and we want to hear from keir starmer tom seen in iaccurate you are we can see how accurate you are with a challenge any labour opposition this time going to government is how pay for government is how to pay for things had a great things so labour had a great idea windfall it was rubbish idea windfall tax it was rubbish and it was adopted by the so i think we need paid pledges to fill those vacancies in the nhs . inflation is coming down, it
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pays and as liam indicated , we pays and as liam indicated, we need a proliferation of housebuilding because that's generational as well as cost of living problems . so paying for living problems. so paying for housebuilding , filling some of housebuilding, filling some of those nhs vacancies , that's what those nhs vacancies, that's what i'd like to see. those nhs vacancies, that's what i'd like to see . good stuff, i'd like to see. good stuff, peter, thank you very much . peter, thank you very much. maybe i'll get a quick chat with you tomorrow when we can pick apart starmer's apart keir starmer's version. peter that most of peter up, is that for most of labour less. i'll get labour less. angela i'll get final from you. the rap final word from you. the rap scene is a journalist and broadcast style. we've spoken a bit about his personality. andrew lot people want andrew a lot of people now want to which area of to see surfaces. which area of these think is going to these you think is going to matter to people at the matter most to people at the ballot? be ballot? is it going to be inflation, national debt, nhs waiting you waiting small boats for you i think it's going to be subsequently ultimately whether people will be off before the next election or better off in the in the in the long term that whether they'll be able to fulfil that mortgage obligation or whether they'll be able to get a mortgage because unfortunately , much as the unfortunately as, much as the catastrophe what's happening crossing the channel these terrible, terrible tragedies ,
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terrible, terrible tragedies, self—interest amongst a lot people, if you actually ask them and look them in eye is king and look them in the eye is king and. they want to know whether they can pay their bills. they they can pay their bills. they they want to know whether they'll a to live in. they'll have a home to live in. and think ultimately that's and i think ultimately that's what be what the government will be measured angela, thank measured by. angela, thank you very sure i've seen very much. i'm sure i've seen that broadcaster. that journalist and broadcaster. right, as right, ladies and gentlemen, as the emails are coming in thick and fast at the moment, one would expect is a gb news would expect gbp is a gb news dot uk. look, i've got to be honesty at honesty from what i'm seeing at the minute. it's not a bag the minute. it's not a mixed bag for there's not a huge for rishi. there's not a huge amount love for rishi. i wish amount of love for rishi. i wish things different, but it's things were different, but it's not. lie you about not. i can't lie to you about this at moment. do not rate this at the moment. do not rate rishi is just popped up right in front of me right on the front of me right here on the inbox from. marianne, get your views in. gbp a views coming in. gbp is a gbnews.uk make you tell, me gbnews.uk make sure you tell, me and exactly you do or do and tell us exactly you do or do not about what said. not like about what you said. even it's not just the even if it's not just the substance if it's do with substance as if it's to do with personality. because personality is politics is important and politics and there be a of there appears to be a bit of a vacuum at the moment. get in touch. livid tells. get yourself on the telly vaiews@gbnews.uk
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reaction to rishi sunak's five point plan for britain. i'm joined the studio get some joined in the studio to get some more reaction by political more reaction by our political correspondent not correspondent tom harwood not business editor liam business economics editor liam halligan i am being told we've halligan. i am being told we've got 2 minutes being mocked up got 2 minutes of being mocked up people, hold thought. will people, so hold thought. we will go to . kevin hollinrake people, so hold thought. we will go shortly.(evin hollinrake people, so hold thought. we will go shortly. supposedly'ake people, so hold thought. we will go shortly. supposedly anyway, very shortly. supposedly anyway, tom, going to bring you back tom, i'm going to bring you back in love the initial in because we love the initial reaction much. see that this reaction much. you see that this thing relatively in the thing was relatively in the sense that he seemed a bit wooden, seemed bit stifled, wooden, seemed a bit stifled, and wasn't a lot of and there wasn't a lot of substance. break substance. but in the break there, you pointed out to me something was briefed something he was well briefed on. too doom and on. we shouldn't be too doom and gloom yes absolutely. gloom on. yes absolutely. i think he anticipated here that the from the number one priority from certainly in the room certainly journalist in the room would all of these questions would be all of these questions about the nhs in now he touched on bit in the speech but on it a bit in the speech but i think interestingly he was probably more verbose, more detailed about it in the q&a section he brought out the facts and figures the 7000 more hospital beds that have been made available , the extra made available, the extra diagnostics funding new sort of
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stay at care model as well . stay at care model as well. we're seeing the more money for social and this was in response to number of questions from journalists because course people have been home. what's been going on with , the backlog been going on with, the backlog being cleared with the strikes with the real pressures that seeing on the nhs , perhaps it seeing on the nhs, perhaps it was a point of light in this speech that he was very well briefed on the numbers and the policy with regard fixing some of those problems where no doubt we're seeing the nhs under enormous strain despite the extra funding that's gone in. yeah, absolutely . did ask didn't yeah, absolutely. did ask didn't he essentially live a better time and to be judged on what he actually does did highlight to me a couple of things that he missed, almost like what rishi should have said, yeah, we've just had some really eye popping numbers from the british retail consortium today. they're not official numbers , but the official numbers, but the british retail consortium, the main industry body for food retailing . right. and retailing. right. and they're showing fresh food prices showing that fresh food prices in was subject to the highest
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inflation on record up 15. i'll be talking a bit more about that with you in the next hour. patrick, look , families have patrick, look, families have just gone through christmas around the christmas dinner. people have been talking about rents house prices, mortgages people are about to remortgage many cases. millions of youngsters who have gone the extra mile , done the right extra mile, done the right thing, bought a home. they're now facing much, much higher rates, nothing at all on that nothing about the million 1.2 million people on council house waiting list . but if you want to waiting list. but if you want to win some seats in the red, start talking about council houses . talking about council houses. yeah, social housing, nothing on that all. nothing on fuel that at all. nothing on fuel prices, it seems to me big . prices, it seems to me big. areas where he had nothing to say, where he had an opportunity to say something. you can only make a first impression once . make a first impression once. and this was his first big speech. as thomas rightly said , speech. as thomas rightly said, number of times as prime minister beginning of a new yeah minister beginning of a new year. yeah, i do think the british people, the vast majority obsessed like us
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majority want obsessed like us politics and news and policy . politics and news and policy. they just to feel there's they just want to feel there's someone who's to be honest someone there who's to be honest and a leader. and i'm not sure these pledges really worked on ehhen these pledges really worked on either. perhaps the either. and yet perhaps the reason he didn't go for reason why he didn't go for housing is because we saw that enormous just enormous that took place just a few weeks ago within his own party. maybe he didn't want to promise something that because didn't think he lost his mp that thought of you is thought both of you this is great. but going to go now great. but we're going to go now to hollinrake mp, who's to kevin hollinrake mp, who's a minister small business minister for small business enterprise markets. we enterprise and markets. there we i can over to i believe we can go over to kevin now. thank you very much. great have you on this show. great to have you on this show. much look, these much appreciated. look, these big five promises. of big five promises. a lot of people are saying, well, frankly, alright . frankly, they sound alright. there's no substance. what's your view . i don't agree with your view. i don't agree with that at all. he's refreshing to have specific targets around things halving inflation by the end of this year, getting the economy growing again by the end of this year, reducing debt as a percentage of the economy within five years. all these things really important. the nhs, of
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course , making sure we can get course, making sure we can get people into a&e and back out again , those things and again, those things and importantly stopping those small boat boats from coming across the channel so i think these are all tangible and to me they do meet the priorities of most people speak to my constituency and in my job as minister for small business. well absolutely there's no doubt about that these are the nation's priorities. but it's a question of trust and delivery. and when it comes small boats, kevin, people are sick and this people are sick and of this rhetoric, they don't rhetoric, they just don't believe do anything about it. why now ? well, why is it different now? well, i can understand that it is a very problem to solve. of course, somewhere we tend to be stopped at every turn in terms of either legislation or legal challenges the courts. but one thing you can't take from rishi sunak, he's got real credibility. whatever he's done in politics in the past. so as chancellor, he did it. he brought it, brought the economy in and saved those jobs and businesses throughout pandemic and through the cost of living , he's shown the cost of living, he's shown it can deliver with calm
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competence. and i think he'll deliver on those priorities, including small boats. if we are still seeing small coming across the channel by time the next election rolls around, he lost the election . i think people the election. i think people will definitely judges those things and quite rightly to what really liked about the speech today wasn't politics. it was about solving the problems that people are facing . and we should people are facing. and we should welcome that. we specify civic measures, getting people through difficult time, particularly tackling inflation, which is the thing that which is all poorer, making sure sure the economy doesn't hit rock bottom. we get go get through this next year one piece the economy out growing so people can growing again so people can confident will their jobs confident will keep their jobs and their businesses helping through the people through these next few tackling those next few months tackling those issues the nhs making sure issues in the nhs making sure people got access to good good pubuc people got access to good good public services all things so of course we will accept that people are going to judge us on those things at. the time of the
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next election. absolutely the nhs is making sure we solve those problems. obviously well, let's just talk about another one of those problems then. you've the it's a you've mentioned the it's a massive of issue and massive behemoth of an issue and it frankly, everybody . it affects frankly, everybody. the care is huge the country. health care is huge . just explain to me again , . just explain to me again, because i thought it was a bit wishy how he going to wishy washy. how is he going to sort it out for us ? well, one sort it out for us? well, one thing he's done is resourced it properly . i mean, i think we properly. i mean, i think we fund the nhs on a per capita bafis fund the nhs on a per capita basis now, the third highest fund of the of the health systems in europe. so he's got the resources it needs clear there are some of the problems we've got to solve right now, not least the flu outbreak seen and still the hangover from the covid crisis and the and the waiting problems we have . waiting list problems we have. but out measures where but he sets out measures where he to be judged he wants to be seen to be judged against those in terms of no waiting list, no people waiting for them in months, by april for them in 18 months, by april of this year and reducing waiting times, waiting lists overall by the end of about by
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24. so there's some specific measures that he's put in place, but not least putting the extra funding in it needs . look, funding in it needs. look, absolutely. and kevin , as you're absolutely. and kevin, as you're well aware, no doubt, rishi sunak's , advisers will be well sunak's, advisers will be well aware. it was a very well aware. is it was a very well word is featured a lot of sat it's difficult to hold them to account frankly because of account frankly because a lot of it you'll to wait and see it you'll have to wait and see or it comes and there or not it comes off and there were relatively vague were some relatively vague elements it. but one thing elements to it. but one thing that wasn't vague is him as a person and his delivery at the moment compared well moment is being compared so well from inbetweeners. he's been from the inbetweeners. he's been compared to somebody who's pretty and pretty stiff, pretty wooden, and frankly wish frankly uninspiring. do you wish you back ? listen, i you had, boris, back? listen, i think rishi rishi is the right person to lead this country. i know him personally. i've seen him in his constituencies in every constituency mp to me, i know him personally . i think know him personally. i think he's a great person . but what he's a great person. but what i think people care about is whether we deliver the problems, the solutions to the problems people are facing, that's what
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they're going to be concerned about you'll no doubt dodge isn't that changes to different things terms of things that i think are the key problems people are facing. they care about delivery . and that's what about delivery. and that's what you set out to do today to, deliver on the solutions to the problems that people are facing . well, there you go. he's good after by himself a little bit at time. and that's potentially what he's just done. kevin, thank much. really thank you very much. really appreciate you taking the time for off the back about for us right off the back about speech, kevin. right speech, kevin. i'll be right there and. minister for small business enterprise and markets. now to your now i'm going to go over to your headlines. when we come, headlines. but when we come, we've tom, we've liam, we've got tom, we've got liam, paul we've got tom, we've got liam, paul, eric and lots to pick apart the apart when it comes to the economy. lots apart. economy. lots pick apart. obviously, comes to the obviously, when it comes to the outright of. we outright politics of. it all we heard earlier on today as well from the leader of reform uk, richard tice, we'll be talking about looking ahead what about that looking ahead to what rishi rishi rishi sunak's sorry not rishi sunak going to be say sunak is always going to be say tomorrow intimate, it tomorrow is all got intimate, it gets in the way anyway. the prime minister has focussed on educating as well educating the nation as well with for it. maths. with more wait for it. maths. yes, there's loads apart.
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yes, there's loads to apart. you can't politics can't move the politics at the gbviews@gbnews.uk . i will go to gbviews@gbnews.uk. i will go to some wonderful views some of your wonderful views very shortly, but i believe very very shortly, but i believe now go to the now i'm going to go to the headunes. now i'm going to go to the headlines . thanks very much, headlines. thanks very much, patrick. it after that it's . patrick. it after that it's. 334. here's the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister has outlined five key promises setting out his government's priorities, speaking in east london, rishi sunak a series of pledges , including promising to pledges, including promising to halve inflation to tackle the rising cost of living, growing the economy by pledging to create more opportunities across the country , reducing the the country, reducing the national debt which he says will secure the future of public services , cut nhs waiting lists services, cut nhs waiting lists , ensure people can get care quicker and stopping the small boats . people are detained and boats. people are detained and swiftly removed from the country , he said. his government had already made steps towards improving the since. i became prime minister. we've made
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progress, stabilised the economy and people's mortgage rates provided and people's mortgage rates provide d £26 billion of support provided £26 billion of support for the cost living invested billions more in schools, the nhs and care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from ukraine to our collective economic security continued our support for armed forces and their efforts keep us safe and set out a concrete to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of course we need to do more . well the prime minister more. well the prime minister also touched on the ongoing rail strike, saying his government's door always open for dialogue with unions. it comes on the second day of the first of 248 hour strikes by rail workers with over 40,000 rmt members walking off the job over pay jobs and conditions, train
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gb news. yeah action packed show this afternoon, ladies and gents, who wouldn't have it any other way? we are reacting to rishi sunak's big five pledges his big speech. i'm just going to do quickly a little bit of reaction very quickly gbviews@gbnews.uk. it's a . they a mixed bag mostly. they were all up you, daniel. all dressed up for you, daniel. i rishi. steady hand on i do like rishi. steady hand on the tiller. like he the tiller. seems like he genuinely cares about britain the of it, though. the vast majority of it, though. are . debbie, rishi are people. debbie, if rishi doesn't boats in next doesn't stop the boats in next six he will gone. six months, he will be gone. elizabeth thinks should have elizabeth thinks he should have been deliver speech for been able to deliver speech for a quite speech. so without a quite long speech. so without actually to it .
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actually needing to read it. okay, interesting. think i've okay, interesting. i think i've points a of personality, points to a lack of personality, in elizabeth's view neil says that rishi is not saying his credibility on the economy is wrong because the nhs is messed up and economy is messed up up and the economy is messed up due to lockdowns. was a part due to lockdowns. he was a part of is there go. some of that is there we go. some initial reaction that keep your coming in rishi sunak's big five pledges about how he's going to set out vision for 2023. we aren't going to be analysing that and picking them apart in the course the show but a little bit of context may be on hear an alternative view because something got swallowed a something got swallowed up a little but not here on gb little bit, but not here on gb news is leader of the reform news is the leader of the reform party. this earlier party. tice this was earlier today announced vision for today announced his vision for the party this year and he actually took aim pretty soon knocking the conservatives get out we've had 12 years of out this we've had 12 years of government by various income of what i call the con socialists taxes the highest for 70 years government spending the highest for about 50 years. inflate the
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highest for 30 years plus and productivity collapsing everywhere the lowest for at least 30 years. well a little bit later on in this show , i'm bit later on in this show, i'm going to be discussing and going head to head actually on kind of reform versus because reform apparently cast iron apparently definitely cast iron guarantees, supposedly going to be standing up candidates against every single tory candidate. they're saying not going to back down this time. what does mean rishi sunak? what does mean for rishi sunak? because split the because it could well split the vote maybe, maybe it vote and maybe, just maybe it would them into being more would force them into being more conservative. would force them into being more consweative. would force them into being more conswe haven't really seen too fair, we haven't really seen too much of that, have we? much evidence of that, have we? but moving on from that and drilling down more specific drilling down into more specific parts sunak's pledges parts of rishi sunak's pledges here, experts here, education experts are warning the minister must tackle chronic shortages . math chronic shortages. math teachers. it was the bane of my existence. math teachers anyway if his plans are all pupils in england, study some form of the subject age of 18 or to subject until age of 18 or to work. you miss this, this was work. if you miss this, this was
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bizarrely the big grand announcement before rishi even bigger announcement, which is that he wants everyone study that he wants everyone to study maths to force of gunpoint maths to be force of at gunpoint almost to study maths until the age of 18. the prime minister used first of 2023 to lay used first speech of 2023 to lay out mission , combat high out a new mission, combat high rates innumeracy in england . rates innumeracy in england. here's what he said . we need to here's what he said. we need to go further . i here's what he said. we need to go further. i am now making numeracy a central object motive of our education. but that have to mean a compulsory a—level in maths for everyone . but we will maths for everyone. but we will work with the sector to move towards all children in studying some form of maths to 18. just imagine what greater numeracy will unlock for people, the skills fill confidence with your finances to find the best mortgage deal savings rate , the mortgage deal savings rate, the ability to do your job better and, get paid more and greater self—confidence to a changing .
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self—confidence to a changing. world i mean, he's a briefcase away from work from the inbetweeners there tom joins me now who is the chief executive of the federation of awarding bodies, which is the collective for the uk's world class qualifications and assessment industry. any evidence industry. is there any evidence that study maths that making people study maths longer better at longer makes them better at maths ? well, what's really maths? well, what's really curious, patrick, is in terms what the prime minister announced today is it's not particularly new back in 2017, the then minister for school standards, nick cave, who happens to be also on his third way round the minister for school standards received a report from professor adrian smith, which was precisely this policy of adopting maths up to the age of 18 and guess what the minister for school standards rejected the policy at that stage. so we've lost a whole five years on policy that's not particularly new. yeah, but it's one thing whether or not he's new is another thing or not. it works. i mean, i know for a straight up fact, if you make children study something that
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they absolutely don't want do and that, by the way, they feel that they're bad out but then there be any in it. there won't be any uptake in it. you end up with a load of you just end up with a load of people go aimlessly not people that go aimlessly not actually taking within it. i think it's utterly pointless and by as well. politically by the way as well. politically tended person in tended, no young person in country now is going to go out vote conservative because rishi sunakis vote conservative because rishi sunak is making him do maths well , look, sunak is making him do maths well, look, only sunak is making him do maths well , look, only 52% of students well, look, only 52% of students of the age of 16 currently pass maths. i mean on your point about whether it's a good idea or not, i mean, without a doubt the prime minister is onto something about the levels of numeracy our country one in five adults are effectively functionally innumerate but that hasn't changed since the class moses report of 1999 that found exactly the same statistic so he's onto something in terms of if we want to build a education and scientific nation, if that's his vision , then we've got to
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his vision, then we've got to improve numeracy skills. but there's no evidence that we're 13th in the paser rankings as it is actually levels of numeracy . is actually levels of numeracy. 16 the simply, as you say thing to young people, you've got to stay in the classroom and do more maths is not the answer. absolutely no will be shouting at their tv screens as they always do. go to ibm. we got a recruitment crisis in our nhs . recruitment crisis in our nhs. we even got enough teachers got recruitment crisis teachers supposedly. about our armed supposedly. what about our armed forces. what about our practical instead of people instead of forcing people children to study stuff that they like and feel as though rightly or wrongly, that they'll never use, why can't we get them all apprenticeships and all doing apprenticeships and going doing extra going and doing an extra two years maths they might years of maths which they might not do, and then going and not want do, and then going and doing mouse degree at doing a mickey mouse degree at a university is selling themselves with debt. where the actual with debt. where is the actual bold there's vision bold vision? there's no vision here. a nerd in a suit here. it's a nerd in a suit telling to do sums. but telling me to do sums. but that's disappointing that's what's disappointing about announced when today about the announced when today the prime minister first big speech of his premiership . if
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speech of his premiership. if you back all those decades to you go back all those decades to other ministers, we have other prime ministers, we have the great debate under james the great debate underjames callahan . you know, lord baker , callahan. you know, lord baker, ken baker, remember, he brought in the national curriculum and abolished o—levels and brought in gcses. tony blair education, education, education. so prime ministers in the past have made a big play on education and they've come up with these ticket policies quite revolution re in terms of their long term . re in terms of their long term. what we have from rishi sunak today of course the mass announcement but he could have focussed as you say patrick, on some the real pressing some of the other real pressing challenges secondary challenges in our secondary education system . we've got education system. we've got 700,000 young people under the age who in any age of four who aren't in any form of education, training, apprenticeship or employment at all. they're just sitting on their backsides . you know, we've their backsides. you know, we've also got a real problem with catch up following lockdowns, 100,000 have just disappeared off the school rolls . so he off the school rolls. so he could have made a pitch for a much bigger vision about we solve those endemic educational
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skills crisis in our country, which obviously would have been more pertinent on the doorstep voters as well than , as you say, voters as well than, as you say, saying to 16 year old, you've got to spend another two years in the classroom doing. look, tom, thank you very much . must tom, thank you very much. must say i enjoyed you the other nights as well. and neil show preaching a little bit of hope light tom really the chief light tom really is the chief executive the federation of executive of the federation of bodies across reacting to bodies rise across reacting to the education side obviously see those announcements but look those big announcements but look what care about a huge what you all care about a huge amount. there's the stuff amount. yes there's the stuff going small boats. going on with the small boats. yes, it's the economy. but frankly as well, it's also health care, isn't it? and the nhs is always news nhs well is always in the news and often for very good and not often for very good reason. this afternoon sunak reason. but this afternoon sunak has in the has said, creating hubs in the community would waiting community would cut waiting lists nhs as, by the way, lists in the nhs as, by the way, something like 7.2 million people on those waiting, i said of free up hospitals where there's bad blocking, etc, to focus on urgent care, acute care . so the prime minister has also why was also why is he focusing
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on cutting waiting when urgent care was encountering issues? he responded by saying the government needed to do both, which to be fair is spot on about. they do need to do both that earlier the health secretary a surge in cases of flu covid and strep a for the current pressure on the nhs. anyone to wonder if they're hiding behind something that may anyway. it comes as senior nhs doctors say the service is on a edge with several ambulance declaring critical incidents and reports and trust struggling to keep up with demand. joining me now is robert bell. now, robert is a filmmaker whose mother was on a hospital trolley for 24 hours. yes today. i believe receiving treatment. robert, firstly , thank you very much for firstly, thank you very much for coming on and talking about this. think let's have a bit of context if it's right with you, just talk to me about your experience. please yes. on monday she was she took ill, so i waited during the day and then
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called an ambulance , i guess called an ambulance, i guess abouti called an ambulance, i guess about i called 999 in the afternoon and about 2:00 i was told it would . take four or 5 told it would. take four or 5 hours for an ambulance to come , hours for an ambulance to come, but i was to wait by the phone did get phoned probably hours later by operative for paramedics who asked me what the symptoms were and she said the, my mother probably needed urgent attention should a paramedic mix that come with it and about 4 hours and probably hear about. 35 to 40 minutes trying to establish the problem they then advised that they for she she needed attention and she should go hospital. but it was my
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choice . i, i let them take her. choice. i, i let them take her. they waited in the ambulance . they waited in the ambulance. for 15 minutes and then told me that she didn't needed to get to a hospital in the blue light . a hospital in the blue light. and i followed them to the hospital . when i got there it hospital. when i got there it was very, very busy at the reception. i did get to speak to someone in reception after about 10 minutes, my mother arrived similar tenuously to that and she was taken a room to. she was first in a corridor for a very long line of . beds were in first in a corridor for a very long line of. beds were in this corridor and we were told to wait . eventually she was seen to wait. eventually she was seen to . i consulted at a and she was
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delivered is she had delirium and they all she needed to be treated fairly urgently. she was then taken to an diet cubicle where she was put on a drip and given antibiotics . she was that given antibiotics. she was that and i understand to back to the corridor of this very long line of people . for beds i wasn't of people. for beds i wasn't home the next day i tried to call the hospital the phone was ringing off the hook i gave up i got it my card went to the hospital and i found the in a corridor again in a line of people. i spoke a duty nurse who told me there was a wait for beds but with no idea how long
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the waits would be . i left her the waits would be. i left her because was fast asleep on a trolley . i wasn't home. i slept trolley. i wasn't home. i slept rather badly last night. but what called morning and was told that she got a bed this morning. it was award. can i ask? sorry to interrupt, but can i ask just before i move on a little bit from this? is your mother all right now getting back stable to stable but very confused . and i stable but very confused. and i think she still some sort of infection . okay. well, obviously infection. okay. well, obviously incredibly sorry to hear. i'm sure every single person watching and listening to this, which is a robot. i've got to ask you, we have just had some big announcements from a she in light of what terrible light of what was a terrible experience, a very traumatic experience, a very traumatic experience and your experience for both you and your mother, and other loved mother, doubt and other loved ones as you trust him ones as well. do you trust him to sort out the nhs ? well
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to sort out the nhs? well i think it's not a question of trust. i think you can saying he's he's abortion and millions pounds to nhs but the problems are systemic they're not it's not a question of just chucking money at the organs ization it's about sorting about the system, the management, the of one figure i must say is when i go a&e and was in a cubicle , most a&e and was in a cubicle, most of the paramedics were waiting around doing the job of nurses, keeping an on patients so that they should be keeping eye on patients, that they should on the road. they should be they should be. robert and one of my massive concerns it's not just on the nhs by the way, it's on a lot of different areas . is lot of different areas. is listening to rishi sunak that hey look i think he's , you know, hey look i think he's, you know, very well—meaning chap. there's nothing with a personal nothing with him on a personal level don't think apart from i'll give maybe in slight level don't think apart from i'll cofa maybe in slight level don't think apart from i'll gof personality. in slight
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level don't think apart from i'll gof personality. don'tght level don't think apart from i'll gof personality. don't get lack of personality. don't get me wrong is it's appeared to me as he was managing fires as though he was managing fires on load of different fronts as on a load of different fronts as opposed the bold opposed to maybe having the bold vision the co—owners you vision or the co—owners if you want that way, to want to put it that way, to actually get there and rip things apart, root and branch and maybe do some of the things that which is that you've said, which is really grips with really get to grips with systemic in our i'm systemic problems in our nhs i'm just there's the just not sure there's the political the political will or the ideological or frankly, the bottle to do. bottle in order to do. but robert, appreciate you coming robert, i appreciate you coming on and the best about you. and of your we all of course, your mother. we all wish you, robert wish her well. thank you, robert . to you. robert bell, . good luck to you. robert bell, the whose mother was the filmmaker whose mother was sadly hospital for sadly on a hospital trolley for 24 yesterday. right 24 hours yesterday. right a spokesperson york and spokesperson for york and scarborough nhs scarborough teaching nhs foundation which is where foundation trust, which is where robert's mum, is that long? across the country are emergency departments are under severe strain and in the last couple of days they have experienced a worse pressures emergency worse pressures on emergency services in our history. increased staff and a high numbers of patients waiting to be discharged. who? no longer need be in hospital has had need to be in hospital has had an impact on our emergency department. it's resulting in patients longer for
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patients waiting much longer for beds available. we beds to become available. we recognise means many recognise this means that many patients spend a long in patients will spend a long in the department before the emergency department before are a ward. and we are admitted to a ward. and we are admitted to a ward. and we are sorry for this. our staff are sorry for this. our staff are working, especially in the most of circumstances most difficult of circumstances right right. you right of reply. done right. you be patrick christys on gb news coming more on rishi sunak's five point plan for 2023 as he plans to inflation and plans to tackle inflation and the boats . we're going to the small boats. we're going to delve down into that . we'll also delve down into that. we'll also tackle head reports this afternoon. we be on the verge of afternoon. we be on the verge of a return to some of covid restrictions. i believe i'm saying this either, but yes some form of covid restrictions could be just around the corner. good time to announce that, wasn't it? given the fact that we're all buried in rishi sunak's big announcement for that, though, as hello. aidan as you wait. hello. i'm aidan mcgivern from the met office. the very mild weather we've got at the moment stays with overnight, then it turns overnight, but then it turns tomorrow with rain for some at the moment , tomorrow with rain for some at the moment, low pressure is moving away from the uk, but
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another low brewing out the atlantic in between a strong westerly to southwesterly airflow and a lot of cloud across . the uk, the cloud across. the uk, the cloud thickest in the but a chance of some breaks in the east and the far showers tend to ease overnight, although a few will remain for northern england. southern and western and northern scotland and a few outbreaks of rain push into the south—west as well as parts of wales and northern ireland by the end of the night with cloudy skies in the west, it's a mild start the day on thursday, start to the day on thursday, a bit in the east, more bit colder in the east, more especially for northern scotland, there will be scotland, where there will be a touch of frost first thing beautiful, start beautiful, sunny skies to start though of though for parts of aberdeenshire, sutherland, eastern seeing a bright eastern england seeing a bright start well. doesn't last start as well. it doesn't last cloud in from the west. cloud rolls in from the west. some outbreaks of rain associated with this cloud, but not much i think some parts of the south stay dry through the day and it will be very mild once again, 12 to 14 celsius in the south 6 to 11 further north. thenit the south 6 to 11 further north. then it turns wetter and windier for western scotland. the northern ireland, as we the
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northern ireland, as we end the afternoon thursday. now this area rain sweeps into the rest of the uk overnight so most places getting wet through the hours darkness strong winds associated it as well but even stronger winds return to scotland behind the front gales. western scotland, 60, 70 mile per hour wind gusts by dawn on friday. a lot of showers here dner friday. a lot of showers here drier elsewhere with some clear spells and epic holders. we start off friday across england, wales, southern scotland, northern ireland, some brightness thing. friday, further i think will continue across northern west and scotland through the day and 1 to 2 showers for western parts of the rest of the uk. but otherwise, friday is a gap between weather systems because . there's more rain to come at the weekend, in the form the weekend, mostly in the form of showers . some days on of heavy showers. some days on gb news from 930, it's camilla tominey for a politics show with personality . then at 11, michael personality. then at 11, michael portillo for topical discussion, debate , some ethical dilemmas debate, some ethical dilemmas and sometimes even a sense the
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channel well, it's 4:00. you'll be patrick christys on gb news coming up this hour, a five point plan to set out vision for britain. rishi sunak is asking you to judges premiership and number 10 on these pledges . so number 10 on these pledges. so five promises we will halve inflation , grow the economy , inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt, cut waiting lists and stop the boats . those other
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and stop the boats. those other people's priorities. they are your governance that's priorities , right? well, there priorities, right? well, there we go. at least five plays. jeremy sets it out. but i want to hear from you. are these promises enough to your vote? do you trust him? it's a question of trust, isn't really? of trust, isn't it? really? i think i'll be sharing those thoughts. thoughts very, thoughts. your thoughts very, very at very shortly. what would be at the top of your priority the very top of your priority list, gbviews@gbnews.uk? you know drill by now, people. know the drill by now, people. now cost of living is also now the cost of living is also at the very heart. some of the big issues facing families across today . new figures big issues facing families acrosrthe today . new figures big issues facing families acrosrthe pricey . new figures big issues facing families acrosrthe price of new figures big issues facing families acrosrthe price of food figures big issues facing families acrosrthe price of food hasres show the price of food has jumped record levels . our jumped to record levels. our economics and business editor liam halligan is going be in liam halligan is going to be in on this and could we be on the verge of a return of some coronavirus restrictions on. i can't believe i'm saying this either but am report this afternoon that ministers are considering issuing fresh guidance on mask wearing working from home and even social distancing as health bosses claim the nhs is at risk of collapse. isn't it time the nhs started protecting us? not the other way. let me know your
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thoughts gp at gbnews.uk big on rishi, what do you make of his plans also? actually, are you sick and tired? even the chatter of coronavirus laws, gbp is a gbnews.uk right now. as you headunes. gbnews.uk right now. as you headlines . thank you, patrick. headlines. thank you, patrick. this is the latest from the gb newsroom the prime minister has outlined five key promises setting out his government's priorities . speaking setting out his government's priorities. speaking in east london, rishi sunak issued a series of pledges , including series of pledges, including promising to halve to tackle the rising cost . living. growing the rising cost. living. growing the economy . by rising cost. living. growing the economy. by pledging to rising cost. living. growing the economy . by pledging to create economy. by pledging to create more across the country . more across the country. reducing the national debt which he says will secure the future of public. cuts nhs waiting list to ensure people get care quicker and the small boats ensuring people are detained and swiftly removed from the country. he said his had already made steps in improving the
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country. since i became prime minister , we've made progress , minister, we've made progress, stabilise the economy and people's mortgage rates provided £26 billion of support for the cost of living invested billions in schools. the nhs social care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from ukraine. our collective economic security continued , our security continued, our unwavering support for the armed forces and their efforts to keep us safe and set out a concrete plan to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of course , we migration. but of course, we need to do more . the royal need to do more. the royal college of nursing has to the pm's comments about the pressures facing the nhs , saying pressures facing the nhs, saying they're detached from reality . they're detached from reality. the rcn say the pressures being faced a far more ordinary than what, just winter pressures . it
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what, just winter pressures. it comes after the health secretary , a surge of flu cases , covid , a surge of flu cases, covid and strep. a concern for pressures the nhs faced over christmas . while the prime christmas. while the prime minister also touched on the ongoing strike, saying his government's door is always open for dialogue with unions. it comes on the second day of the first of 248 hours strikes by rail workers with over 40,000 rmt members walking off the job over paid jobs and condition . over paid jobs and condition. train drivers in the aslef union will strike tomorrow followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on while rmt boss mick lynch told gb news the union wants a sensible agreement that everyone can support. message is that we do apologise for the inconvenience we are working towards getting a solution but there are a lot of people are frustrated. we've got the health workers, education workers, firefighters are all getting the same treatment from the government, so they seem to want to extend the and not give
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to extend the agony and not give people. a square deal and all we want a square deal for our members and we can create a settlement. concerns have been raised over a lack of basic cold and flu medications at britain's . the association of independent multiport is warning its members are running of products such as throwback lozenges and cough mixtures . they say the problems mixtures. they say the problems arise from lack of planning by officials at the department of health health . supermarket health health. supermarket sainsbury's has it's to increase wages for nearly 127,000 workers from next month . workers of both from next month. workers of both sainsbury's and argos will see increases from £10, 25 to sainsbury's and argos will see increases from £10, 25 t 0 £11. increases from £10, 25 to £11. outside of london staff wages inside the capital will increase to nearly inside the capital will increase to nearly £12. the group said the measures were to help retain existing and attract new employees in a tight labour. market. food inflation hit a record point 3% last month, due
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to soaring prices that sought from 12.4% in the previous month. it comes the latest price index showed, the overall shop price inflation slightly to 7.3% in december. the british retail consortium says was a challenging christmas for many households right across the uk and edinburgh's eu says the uk is only giant will both be going back to china this year. it's neanng back to china this year. it's nearing the end of an agreement with chinese officials for shanshan of female and yang hwan, a male have at the zoo for 12 years. they're having special farewell events until their exact leave date is confirmed . exact leave date is confirmed. this is gb news we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to . it's back to. patrick right? let's crack on, shall we?
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within the last hour, rishi sunak's claim the vision he set out this afternoon may not be achieved in this parliament. he will work night and day to change uk. during his first keynote speech , very much a keynote speech, very much a keynote speech, very much a keynote speech, very much a keynote speech, one to all of the year, the prime sets out five key pledges. he asked voters to judge him on. let's take a deeper look at those pledges, shall we? so number one is to halve inflation this year a very clear goal to judge him by, say, halving inflation by this year, as a means to ease the cost of living crisis. well, ihope the cost of living crisis. well, i hope we could all get behind. not can't. he said he wants people to regain their financial stability . cracking stuff, good stability. cracking stuff, good stuff. rishi next was his promise to grow britain's economy by creating better paid jobs, opening up opportunities for employment across the country as a levelling up pledge that doesn't perhaps a nod to bofis that doesn't perhaps a nod to boris johnson's levelling up agenda.so boris johnson's levelling up agenda. so let's around this script, isn't it? third, another pledge on the economy . make sure pledge on the economy. make sure national debt is in order to in
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his words secured a future of pubuc his words secured a future of public services . he'll be hoping public services. he'll be hoping that he goes some ways . the that he goes some ways. the crisis in the nhs and speaking of the nhs , rishi sunak's fourth of the nhs, rishi sunak's fourth pledge reduced the time that people spend on waiting lists and ensure that they receive the care that they need more quickly . a sure bet for a key election issue next year that will be one to judge him on and. finally, a key issue for gb news viewers and listeners, a massive issue, frankly, for the nation and indeed taxpayer, of course, as well, reducing of those small boats, crossing the english channel illegally. prime channel illegally. the prime minister he pass new minister said he would pass new laws ensure those doing that laws to ensure those doing that will detained and swiftly will be detained and swiftly removed as i'm sure you can imagine, given that he's picked five. i've really the biggest issues facing the uk . i don't issues facing the uk. i don't think he's got it wrong in terms of the main issues that are affecting most people you've got money pocket, you've got money in your pocket, you've got illegal immigration, you've got the service. there was a the health service. there was a bit well, okay, bit on education. well, okay, fine. hit key ones. fine. so he's hit the key ones. but they're so big, but because they're so big, there's apart for every
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there's to pick apart for every issue, isn't there? and how achievable really is promises going to be and how much are you going to be and how much are you going to be able to make them stick him as? well, so, for stick to him as? well, so, for example, the boats stuff. example, the small boats stuff. right. does this really mean right. so does this really mean that if absolutely no small boats the boats come across by the time the next election comes running, then win for rescue. then that's a win for rescue. just one small boat. i mean, that he's failed his pledge that anyway, political anyway, gb news his political reporter live in reporter olivia utley is live in central after watching central london after watching what she said in that speech. thank olivia. thank you very much, olivia. great have you back on. and great to have you back on. and of course. yes, that just of course. yes, now that just settles slightly. your hot take. rishi final promises. settles slightly. your hot take. rishi people final promises. settles slightly. your hot take. rishi people saying romises. settles slightly. your hot take. rishi people saying romis
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he was he was keen to effectively diagnose what's gone wrong in his solutions. they seemed quite when he laid out those five different goals to, fix britain, it sounded as though he was going to be judged on the results. when you look a little bit scratch the surface, look a little bit deeper, that it be that . she said it it might be that. she said it was being a bit clever about how he promised. you'll notice that of the promises only the of the five promises only the first actually had a time first one actually had a time scale was half scale on it. that was half inflation by the end the inflation by the end of the yeah inflation by the end of the year. well, that year. well, we know that inflation is set to about half by the end of the year anyway. so whether that's a or so whether that's a goal or prediction, it's harder to say . prediction, it's harder to say. as for the legislation about small , is as for the legislation about small, is obviously a very small, which is obviously a very pressing issue, one that's deeply to viewers. he deeply concerning to viewers. he said he would stop small said that he would stop small boats he said that he boats and then he said that he would introduce legislation to stop those are stop the small boats. those are two slightly things . two slightly different things. what will he be judged on? does want to be judged on introducing legislation? does he want to be
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judged on stopping small boats? and get a grip on and can he really get a grip on it? well, i spoke just outside here a few moments ago. laura trott, who's a junior in in rishi government. and here's what she to say about it . what's what she to say about it. what's very interesting about this , if very interesting about this, if you look at the number of albanian immigrants who are sent back to albania in other countries, for example, france, it's the 80 90, whereas in uk it's the 80 90, whereas in uk it's 45. i think albanians make up a large number of the illegal immigration which is coming into this . it's immigration which is coming into this. it's something that absolutely needs be dealt with and i think that's why the albanian deal will make a difference. but he wants to go further that. you know, further than that. you know, he set a in house of set a plan in the house of commons few weeks ago and then commons a few weeks ago and then he about further he was talked about further legislation today. so this is not can solved easily or not that can be solved easily or but i do think there'll be the albania deal make albania deal will make a difference. right. well olivia , difference. right. well olivia, of these pledges that he's laid out or ideas he's laid out.
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out or ideas that he's laid out. well supposedly inflation might have to fix itself have been about to fix itself depending you read at depending on what you read at the minute when comes to like the minute when it comes to like just time as we have just wasting time as we have just wasting time as we have just had the big winter surge haven't said might just start haven't we said might just start to this to look better anyway. this i think the crack into that you have that would lower trials about the small buys prices is thing of maximum for thing the point of maximum for the british public the moment they've heard it all before they've heard it all before they've had strong rhetoric before and absolutely has happened. this different . wel happened. why is this different. wel a five point plan to stop boats, a five point plan to stop boats, a few of them, which include having more british officers in french stations to watch what's going on has been tried before and hasn't been particularly effective. the biggest point , effective. the biggest point, his five point plan that was announced a few ago, was this deal , the albanians, which would deal, the albanians, which would essentially mean that albanian who to this country, who come to this country, albania, course, deemed a albania, of course, deemed a safe, will immediately sent safe, will be immediately sent back and conception , peace are
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back and conception, peace are very keen is right that we had lord doing that just then want to show that this is a new and yes it is a new plan . but the yes it is a new plan. but the problem is that it isn't just albanians who want to come to this country. and actually, as the times are reporting today, ministers are even conceding that really scratch that this won't really scratch the surface of the problem because . even if do stop the because. even if we do stop the albanian immigrants coming, there's number there's an infinite number immigrants coming over to the hoping to claim asylum and without a plan in place in the rwanda plan hasn't yet worked . rwanda plan hasn't yet worked. it's very hard . see how rishi it's very hard. see how rishi sunak can a grip of this? no is indeed. and yes, i read the article interest which is okay. you plug the albanian gap building, then you end up with syria and eritrea and afghans etc. but anyway, they would go libya. thank you very much. never leave reporting to us and reacting just after rishi sunak's big five points. but he was five point, doesn't he? was a five point, doesn't he? you tell? bloke used to you can tell? this bloke used to work the city. presentation work in the city. presentation is his ears can't
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is coming out of his ears can't he he's got five points dropped silly everything. let's get some reaction from to what reaction from you as to what rishi to say. rishi sunak's had to say. joining now or to gb news joining me now or to gb news viewers, we've got miranda in northamptonshire and harris in carmarthenshire . both of you, carmarthenshire. both of you, thank you very much. to great have you both on the show. susan harris, i will start with you, if all right. your if that's all right. your overall take rishi sunak's overall take on rishi sunak's speech, make you like speech, does it make you like him? or less. so what's on him? more or less. so what's on for you? i've never heard anybody in my speech with so many platitudes, soundbites , many platitudes, soundbites, just paying lip service . but how just paying lip service. but how you know is going cure inflation and grow the with quantum infinity and all the problems the nhs they're going to be because he's going to be part oximeters and i'm sure we'll all be sleeping in bed tonight knowing all is just people with science . and to me it's just science. and to me it's just shown how inexperienced he is. it shouldn't be him anyway
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because haven't voted him in and he's got connection with real at all. but the thing is, didn't i never ever take responsibility say i keep saying that the problem with the nhs is because they're not free they can't beds. so the reason they can't free beds you go right back to margaret thatcher because she closed all the convalesce and hospitals down. all right that's sort of what the problem with that. sort of what the problem with that . alright, susan, i will that. alright, susan, i will pause you there if that's all right. and bringing miranda under richardson in north hampshire . miranda, your overall hampshire. miranda, your overall take rishi said susan's take on what rishi said susan's giving withering accounts of giving a withering accounts of rishi's performance . well, you rishi's performance. well, you know, i it's a little bit like audition for miss world. oh, we miss him was so you know well pace yeah really i think you said earlier i really wishy washy are we going to make inflation better and we're going to create more jobs. we're going
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save the nhs again . yeah, just save the nhs again. yeah, just really expect a lot more. oh, look , something that was look, something that was groundbreaking . but it just groundbreaking. but it just wasn't. what? look both of you you know, i was a bit cynical about the irony. lucky, but , you about the irony. lucky, but, you know, we almost like to the bbc this was going come on tv this is a nothing is it nothing good miranda is anything about it for you know, if i'm honest i'm not saying anything in there. you know, he's completely out of touch with the nhs. he really and that's sad because we have a great that's just getting worse and worse by the minute you know how can you souls waiting times for people when they can't see the people that they've got now that you know your colleagues asking for time is in you see the people you've got get that he's asking for time on that agency from what i can gather. i mean, it was a heck a lot of
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stuff to try to soak in, absorb like a sponge. i as i understand it. anyway, when it came to the he wants to do things like local hubs and give a bit more hubs and give people a bit more flexibility or not. things like pharmacies being able to give prescriptions, etc. maybe prescriptions, etc. to maybe try to off. but think to take burden off. but i think they're for me anyway, they're under for me anyway, fundamentally a bow fundamentally lacked a clear bow old the vision i'll say old bulls. the vision i'll say it it means get rid of this root and branch stuff . and susan can and branch stuff. and susan can i can i ask you look we've got you know, some policy. hey, kids , tom is going to be speaking tomorrow. we had reform uk, richard tice earlier on lay out his vision. it was substance and now we're talking later on. but so is it. can i talk to you about personality? because at minute i'm looking at keir starmer , a bit of a snooze fest starmer, a bit of a snooze fest . rishi sunak i mean look, i've said it before, i'll say again, it's like looking at well from the inbetweeners, isn't it? or am i being mean? susan no. you know, being i can't take serious as a prime minister and all this
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business i love my country. i love you all. and i'm going to take you all to the sunny uplands. but i'd like to take back to the year 2008 because ricky's sunak was one of the hedge fund managers that the blue touch paper that started the banking crisis that nearly decimated this country went to private pensions overnight. i knew what was going to happen, but still it and then made themselves . cool £100 million so themselves. cool £100 million so all they spent really shouldn't itake all they spent really shouldn't i take no notice of it because i don't believe him i don't trust he should not be prime minister and i hope that the next general election is voted out . the election is voted out. the tragedy, but not who do you have. but then this is the thing now this is what anyway? now this is what i'm in my email inbox a lot, which is , look, i inbox a lot, which is, look, i can only say what i've got front of me now, which is and i will say this when boris johnson was in charge, even when boris johnson was right in the thick
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of , a scandal johnson was right in the thick of, a scandal after scandal after scandal, whatever the amount of love island and this in of boris johnson was unbelievable right was it was a people would have voted for him neveri people would have voted for him never i want you john. he could have kicked a puppy to death on the steps outside downing street and thousands of people. and this involves what is, still going vote him the going out and vote for him the next day. rishi there's love at all. word trust comes all. and that word trust comes up time . why do you up all the time. why do you think that is? miranda do you think that is? miranda do you think people look at rishi sunak apparently, according apparently, apparently according to the inbox here, just don't trust now i think this is trust him. now i think this is the thing, if you can't trust a man to fundamentally understand the issues that country are up against because he's he's is in against because he's he's is in a different league and that that's not dissing him as a human if you like because you can't help but you can't understand or to the bottom of things when that is never, ever
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going to touch your life , it's. going to touch your life, it's. well, yeah, but is this a bit of miranda i get i get what you say, right? absolutely. and there's no doubt about it. it is about search. all right. but at the time, fair play the the same time, fair play to the guy he's cracked in life. he had a relatively comfortable start. millions people the same millions of people have the same start life as said. i start in life as rishi said. i can go and spotlight it all can go on and spotlight it all at wall. don't go and at the wall. they don't go and make amount of money that he's made. his wife is incredibly wealthy so that does help. wealthy as so that does help. you we can't have you know, we do. we can't have it apparently want who it all. apparently we want who is of a character the is a bit of a character at the same time being successful. same time as being successful. it is living in the real it time is living in the real world at the same is being serious a difficult serious is a difficult combination right of combination to get right both of you you much. i've really you thank you much. i've really enjoyed and luck to enjoyed this and good luck to you both. well, i'll speak to you both. well, i'll speak to you very soon on individuals the in susan, how in northamptonshire susan, how is the views in northamptonshire susan, how is british the views in northamptonshire susan, how is british public the views in northamptonshire susan, how is british public got the views the british public got them coming gbviews@gbnews.uk coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk you would gb would be patrick christys on gb news tackling news coming up, tackling inflation prime inflation high on the prime minister's list . and so minister's priority list. and so it should as because today it should be as because today new show , the price new figures show, the price of food jumped to record food has jumped to record levels. me know the
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levels. let me know the most ridiculous food prices that you've in the run you've seen. i know in the run up to christmas, we ha d £150 up to christmas, we had £150 turkeys going morrisons, for example. but i got one off for you a bit. now, if you still got security tugs on butter, security tugs on your butter, i want to is heaping more want to know is heaping more pressure on take action pressure on the to take action on economics and on business and economics and it's halligan we'll have it's a liam halligan we'll have the very latest on all of that before, though. we've got a very short .
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okay. all right. well, welcome back, everybody is patrick christys here on gb news. we've got a lot coming your way, including food prices, it's that inflation shadow chancellor rachel reeves has condemned the conservative government for record high food prices, saying all 12 years of tory government have left us with is higher prices. lower wages and growth
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on floor. this follows this morning's from the british retail consortium revealing a lump retail consortium revealing a jump to 13.3% in december from 12.4% the previous month, with fresh food prices seeing the rise. joining me now apparently anyway mp and liberal democrat spokesperson for women and equalities the cabinet office in scotland christine jardine. i thought it was liam halligan , thought it was liam halligan, but here you go, christine. i will not say no. the idea that we on, if we're offering we are on, if we're offering confused you never been seen as in the same room at the same time. clearly that's more offensive those anyway right christine you christine good to have you on the if not rather the show, if not rather unexpectedly what make unexpectedly, what do you make of proposals . it's of rishi sunak's proposals. it's a bit it was a, you know it is good to hear they actually recognises there are areas that need to be fixed. but a bit like listening to a list of the things that he's got wrong over the years as chancellor the past few years as chancellor and minister and then you and prime minister and then you know, miraculously going to fix them targets and them but no targets and no details of he's going to fix details of how he's going to fix it. you know if he was in it. so, you know if he was in business, i would say to him the
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key to success is often to under—promise and overdeliver but does government just but does this government just keep the promising under keep the promising and under delivering? it's just not working . okay. well, look, i've working. okay. well, look, i've got to , you know, what's the lib got to, you know, what's the lib dems plan to sort the small dems plan to sort out the small hbos crisis to sort the small boats crisis ? the small boats, boats crisis? the small boats, the small crisis is only one crisis that we've got. and the problem that we have there is that we do not have an immigration system that works andifs immigration system that works and it's not fit purpose. we don't have safe legal routes. and, you know, we have to address the problem at source and you know help people who are fleeing in many cases and the war poverty they don't do this very often you because of choice it's they are forced to do it but just one of the things rishi sunak talked about it, it's about the problems with the service. he talked about the problems with the economy . but, problems with the economy. but, you know, what is he been doing ? what have they been doing for the first six years? if they
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hadnt the first six years? if they hadn't spent so much time focusing on the internal conservative chaos over the summer we might not have the mess that we've got now it's a lot okay. all right i get what you're saying. look i get what you're saying. look i get what you're saying. look i get what you're saying. all right. but he's not been in the job that long. and as they say, middle management. we are where we are. right. so when it comes to the nhs, what's the lib dems plan to source. you've heard at least a little bit rishi. how are little bit from rishi. how are you going to fix? it was better about look well we actually about you. look well we actually issued plan i'm issued a five point plan i'm sorry i haven't seen it and sorry the i haven't seen it and we recognised the nhs is we need we recognised the nhs is in serious trouble what we in serious trouble and what we need a campaign to recruit need is a campaign to recruit and retain staff. we are so short of staff and the nhs staff we have, they're buckling under pressure. we need fully funded programmes to get people who are medically well back and stop them being know stuck in hospital and you know a backlog that's not happening we need investment in more hospital beds, we need to expand mental
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health support services and you know , ambulance waiting times know, ambulance waiting times are appalling . and what daisy are appalling. and what daisy cooper's bill, if the government would exempt, it would do is give us a locally aged report on just how long are having to wait so that we can act to improve things. so there's a five point plan now . this government has plan now. this government has beenin plan now. this government has been in government for six years dunng been in government for six years during which the situation got worse. these are the people in the who us through worst the who got us through worst crisis that we have known and hopefully will not in a lifetime . and now, instead of dealing with that, the conservatives focussed on the internal chaos over the summer and did nothing about preventing what we could all see was going to be a problem this winter. it's entirely the fault and rishi sunak to stand up now and say, oh, you know, going to fix it. well, he was chancellor, he's prime minister. well yeah, just muslims, just just don't know. christine, is it not a slightly of you to say that the conservatives were focusing on
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the internal because you the internal chaos because you trying to stoke as much internal chaos as possible because you wanted out, you wanted boris johnson out, you wanted boris johnson out, you wanted elections, wanted general elections, you wanted general elections, you wanted locked up into the wanted you locked up into the shelter, getting result. and shelter, getting a result. and just of you said, just in terms of what you said, that just look, wretches, come on, rishi sunak is rishi sunak his latest country. okay final years of chaos under the tories. we did what was for the country. okay, on. no, you have very eloquently may say i'm straight off the bat outline lib dems five point plan when it comes to the nhs. absolutely play to you. we've just had rishi sunak the he's delivered his five points on different things got on various different things got keir tomorrow. i if keir starmer tomorrow. i mean if he's theme they'll he's following the theme they'll be from him as well. be five points from him as well. but we did the leader of the reform party earlier on, richard tice actually what tice, he's saying actually what it , at least quite it appears, at least in quite a lot the polls, they're ahead lot of the polls, they're ahead of you, the liberal democrats how make of that? how do how do you make of that? how do you square that, that in particular? because it would appean particular? because it would appear, that despite appear, though, that despite you've got your lovely five point for nhs people point plan for the nhs people are more conservative are certainly more conservative now the polls not what
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now the polls are not what matters at the moment. what matters at the moment. what matters at the moment. what matters at the moment is the problems in this problems that we have in this country. you said, you know country. and you said, you know quite interesting. you point out yourself rishi sunak's giving us his five points. we've given you a five plan . rishi sunak a five point plan. rishi sunak is not giving us a plan. he's not us, you know, not giving us, you know, any times when targets going to times when targets are going to be . it's all all a bit be made. it's all it's all a bit and a bit kind of we will do these things, but we can't tell you when and how. that's not good enough. what is important, though, is not the opinion polls. it's the why people vote at general election is at the next general election is how with this crisis. how we deal with this crisis. these we've got in these crises that we've got in the moment . most you the moment. most of them, you know , can be laid fairly. it's know, can be laid fairly. it's clearly at the door of the conservatives. no one can predict a pandemic, but didn't deal it particularly well. deal with it particularly well. they it quite badly they dealt with it quite badly in fight the ukraine that in fight the war in ukraine that you know we should be doing more to support their and to do about the energy crisis . these are all the energy crisis. these are all things which the conservative government has failed to address and rishi sunak can't it off as
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somebody else's mistakes because he was chancellor ? no, he's he was chancellor? no, he's prime minister and the mistakes he's having to fix are mistakes that his government. all right. all right. well you finish on the economy. when we come back, the economy. when we come back, the news going to be talking more about the economy. christine you much. christine thank you very much. always having you on always appreciate having you on the jardine, the the show. christine jardine, the who liberal democrat who is liberal democrat spokesperson and spokesperson, women and equalities the cabinet office equalities in the cabinet office in scotland as broad in scotland as well. a broad range that, right. i range of stuff that, right. i promise you i will go to at some point in a second. you are with me patrick christys lgbt is coming sunak he coming up. rishi sunak said he will night and day to will work night and day to change uk as delivered change the uk as he delivered his keynote speech of the his first keynote speech of the year has addressed the crisis as well nhs. claimed well within the nhs. he claimed that reduced waiting lists. that it reduced waiting lists. we'll discuss next. we'll discuss that next. crucially the economy crucially as well the economy with own he covers the with our very own he covers the business and its liam halligan business and its liam halligan business . patrick, business guidelines. patrick, thank you. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. the prime minister has outlined five key promises out his government's
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priorities . speaking promises out his government's priorities. speaking in east london , rishi sunak issued london, rishi sunak issued a series of pledges, including promising to halve inflation to tackle the rising cost of living . growing the economy . pledging . growing the economy. pledging to create more opportune analyses across the country. reducing the national debt which , he says, will secure the future of public services. cut waiting lists to ensure can get care quicker and stopping the small boats , ensuring people are small boats, ensuring people are detained and removed from the country . he said detained and removed from the country. he said his detained and removed from the country . he said his government country. he said his government had already made steps towards improving the country since i became prime minister we've made progress , stabilise the economy progress, stabilise the economy and people's mortgage rates provided and people's mortgage rates provide d £6 billion of support provided £6 billion of support for the cost of living, invested billions more in schools, the nhs and care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from ukraine to our collective economic security continued our support for, the
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armed forces and their efforts to keep us safe and. we set out a concrete plan to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of of illegal migration. but of course , we need to do more . the course, we need to do more. the royal college of nursing has responded . the pm's comments responded. the pm's comments about the pressures the nhs saying they're detached from reality. the rcn say the pressures being faced a fall from ordinary winter pressures . from ordinary winter pressures. it comes after the health secretary blamed a surge of flu cases covid and strep a concern for pressures the nhs faced over christmas . and the prime christmas. and the prime minister touched on the ongoing rail strike, saying his government's door is always open for dialogue with unions. it comes on the second day of the first of 248 hour strikes by railway workers with over 40,000 rmt members walking off the job
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over paid jobs and conditions. train drivers in the aslef union will strike , followed by will strike, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday. faye weldon, who's best known her novel the life and love a devil, has died at the age of 91. she published more than 30 novels in her career as well as short stories and plays written for television, radio and the stage. she was also one of the writers on the popular seventies drama series upstairs. downstairs . tv, online and the downstairs. tv, online and the abbey plus radio. this is .
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apparently in december, according to figures from the british retail consortium . me british retail consortium. me now break it all for down you now to break it all for down you is our economics and business editor with on editor is liam halligan with on the money take it away and i'm not christine. no no, no. it's close. that was a shock . so gb close. that was a shock. so gb news useless is now every month we have the official numbers from the office for national statistics . we haven't got those statistics. we haven't got those yet. what we have got. are inflation numbers from the british retail consortium , which british retail consortium, which i kind of pre—empt the official numbers. they're not you know , numbers. they're not you know, the official record, but they're pretty good because obviously the british records retail consortium are a big organisation . and i can show you organisation. and i can show you the numbers here. what these new brc numbers show on the graphic is in november. patrick inflation for fresh food was 14.3. that means in november a basket of fresh food, a particular basket would have been 14.3 times more expensive
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than november 2021. right if you fast forward to december we can see that in december that went up to 15. that's the highest annual inflation for fresh food that the british consortium has ever recorded. that's higher than the general number, what we call the consumer schumer price index. here is , an official index. here is, an official number. in november the consumer price index , the official price index, the official inflation number across all goods and services was 10.7. we won't get that december cpi that comes out . on the 18th of comes out. on the 18th of january. but just confirm those numbers. you can fresh food is much much going up much much more than regular goods and services and that's why i often sound gb news saying for a long time as this cost of living squeezed , we all focus on the squeezed, we all focus on the headune squeezed, we all focus on the headline an inflation number, the cpi number. but for lower income families , those who spend income families, those who spend disproportionately on food, on
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fuel on rent, on costs, right ? fuel on rent, on costs, right? if they're lucky enough to own their own home, all these basics inflation for those has been much , much higher than the much, much higher than the official 11% inflation number. so when ministers talk about inflation of ten or 11% for little people on lower even middle incomes , that sounds like middle incomes, that sounds like a sick joke. it sounds a massive underestimates what's happened to their cost of living i think last year is just going to get better any time seeing i mean rishi sunak you and i and tom harwood, we watched rishi sunak speech. harwood, we watched rishi sunak speech . i actually think rather speech. i actually think rather than setting himself up for failure with, these brave pledges, he's he's guaranteeing success in his own terms . it's success in his own terms. it's almost certain that inflation going to halve over the next 12 months. it's almost an arithmetic inevitability, unless have another massive fuel price shock because of some massive gi political event like maybe the opec oil export cartel getting
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really nasty , something like really nasty, something like that. but then you can just say, oh, who could possibly foreseen that a similar i think where he says he wants waiting lists to fall given that waiting lists are at an all time high coming off the back of a covid lockdown . we almost stopped many of elective surgery . then, of elective surgery. then, of course, as the backlog waiting lists are going to come down. so i do inflation will get better and over over the holidays in my newspaper i wrote that i actually think the peak of interest rates they currently three and a half % is going to be three and a half% is going to be about four or four and a half % about four or four and a half% which is much much lower than where the sort of money markets where the sort of money markets where people are placing their bets in terms of the wholesale financial markets. actually financial markets. so actually think there light at the end think there is light at the end of the tunnel terms of inflation coming and interest rates coming down and interest rates peaking because stuff. liam, thank you very, very much, liam halligan, our economics business editor again editor speaking to you again a little bit later on. it's a good dovetail. i mentioned elective surgeries, the
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surgeries, etc, because the health has blamed high health secretary has blamed high numbers cases . 19 strep numbers of flu cases. 19 strep a fears . well, for the current fears. well, for the current pressure on the nhs . well, the pressure on the nhs. well, the comments come, as senior doctors say on a knife , with the say nhs is on a knife, with the government reportedly considering a return. and this is the juicy bit to some covid style measures such as masks in pubuc style measures such as masks in public places , working from home public places, working from home as well , and public places, working from home as well, and social distancing . as well, and social distancing. that's in order to solve this perceived crisis lucy johnson, the health and social affairs editor at the derby express, is with me now . do you see any more with me now. do you see any more covid restrictions is going to go down like cup of cold sick with the electorate isn't it. well depends who you talk to some people are for it and some people very against it. we do have a polarised population and indeed a polarised academic. community but we've seen over last 2 to 3 years an epic failure of masks to do anything to slow the spread of respiratory viruses on any level
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infection rates did not go up and down according to mask mandates . any area of world so mandates. any area of world so they don't work . what we're they don't work. what we're seeing unfortunate italy is a return to measures that do increase fear and when you increase fear and when you increase fear and when you increase fear , people stay away increase fear, people stay away from each other . people do from each other. people do social distancing and that does a disservice to particularly younger people. but all people, because we have a bigger pool of popular action that's then susceptible to in the future and. that's what we're seeing now. we've had this spike in help but feel as though it's gone a bit topsy when it comes to our nhs instead, waking up in the morning and thinking well, i'll just go about daily life i'll just go about my daily life and if something and then if something catastrophic nhs catastrophic happens, the nhs will for now, will be there for me now, increasing we're asked increasing it. we're being asked to our lives around. to live our lives around. protecting the nhs isn't. it supposed to be that protect supposed to be that to protect us? predict table us? well, it's predict table what happens everywhere after particularly in december is
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totally predictable. every year you get black alerts in hospitals get i mean it's particularly bad this year because of all the pressures that we've talked about so much on the programme. but single year get these extra year we get these extra pressures, we get people lying corridors and we don't seem be able to plan for it. we seem to be more knee jerk reactions and if it comes to the state of the nafion if it comes to the state of the nation where we're talking about masking infected adults to prevent the hospitals being overwhelmed, then what state are we in? we do need extra beds. we've got something like 3.5 million extra people that have in the population over the last ten years a proportion of those i think about 2 million are older. over 65. and with that we've had decrease in beds . so we've had decrease in beds. so we've had decrease in beds. so we need to increase that whether we need to increase that whether we have them in hospitals which are expensive or whether we need to return to sort of convalesce
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sant beds in the community, you can have a nurse to look after and just help people up because that's a lot of the problem as well as the job is. yeah, we had nightingale for a period of time, but they seemed to disappear. i mean, what a crushing use of taxpayers money they were. the giant overflow carpark elephants of carpark king white elephants of our national service. but lucy, just. just and finally from you , you mentioned that of the ageing population . fine. okay. ageing population. fine. okay. you have it strange that people don't seem to a rapidly growing population and the impact that that appears to be having on our health service as well. it's just another example of this inability to look down the track, look long term and plan. so what we see is that every time there's an emergency governments sort of talk amongst each other, talk to colleges look for quick fixes and sort make these hollow promises without , actually evaluating it without, actually evaluating it and without looking deeply into the problems to try and look
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down track downstream and see how we can prevent the problems happening in the first place. yeah, it is very odd. okay. all right. let lucy, thank you very much. lucy johnson, the health research, the fact that it's a delicate prize now . i've got dr. delicate prize now. i've got dr. vinay babu, a gp who joins me. thank you very much. dr. veena. great to have you on the show. the nhs we're hearing is constantly under pressure. it's on a knife edge, isn't it? would you as someone who works in the nhs recommends social distancing seeing increasing on working from home example in order to protect people you thank you for having me again and i have to agree with ms. johnson we need to anticipate what we're to react. we could anticipate the pressures that are going to come with winter strep a cases, rising influenza and complications, ageing populations. this is not new news . this is things that we news. this is things that we should have anticipated and prepared for being a doctor works in any scene . the waiting works in any scene. the waiting hours go from 4 to 7 where you see elderly patients waiting in the corridors on chairs
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sometimes new chairs literally on the trolleys that they get the ambulance as well. it's heart to see and you see staff members bending over backwards. you make ends meet. and i mean this , because it's not like this, because it's not like you're leaving anyone to die, but you're watching them not the epitome of health. i get that. but should we now then we now be doing things in your view, like putting masks on, distancing, working from home, and just doing daily covid test to make sure we're not passing this thing on it would not without make your life easier would it take the burden off the nhs personally? no because i think i agree again with what mr. johnson said. i think will just emphasise the cultural thing. i don't think it's going to do much in terms of infectivity or in terms of protecting the vulnerable , because i think vulnerable, because i think everyone and sensible everyone is smart and sensible enough now take measures. if enough now to take measures. if someone to away from someone unable to stay away from them. but isolating people them. but then isolating people further would not be the answer. because the time deteriorate because by the time deteriorate they to world to then
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they might get to world to then get help. okay what do you make of what you see that in some of these little the nhs he these little for the nhs he wants the burden of wants obviously the burden of waiting have more waiting times where we have more community for example, stop community hubs for example, stop people presenting themselves that did you like that i had a did you like anything that you had to say it's all yeah i think community hubs are a idea and a lot of primary care are involved in a lot them. but again with lot of them. but again with these are so many multi these there are so many multi challenges. not just winter challenges. it's not just winter pressures, it's staff , staff pressures, it's staff, staff leaving the nhs rota gaps long waiting . there are so many waiting. there are so many different levels . we can just be different levels. we can just be hopeful . i do genuinely want to hopeful. i do genuinely want to believe . these changes will believe. these changes will happen. so i just to be hopeful. okay right now there was an article i read see quite i didn't trust this in the times earlier on today that was about us being quote unquote gaslit by nhs managers in the sense that you've got layer of people who are beneath, so you've got nurses, gp's, your doctors, you paramedics , all of those people paramedics, all of those people and they work very, very hard and they work very, very hard and they work very, very hard and they may be do with a bit more money and. then got,
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more money and. then you've got, you your politicians at you know, your politicians at the but in middle the other end, but in the middle there people who don't there are the people who don't seem be any blame seem to be taking any blame whatsoever, which people who whatsoever, which are people who are quite good are normally on quite good money, are the managers of money, who are the managers of the who are in charge the nhs who are in charge distributing budget and distributing the nhs budget and the it's bit of the minute it's a bit of a bottomless do you think bottomless pit, do you think they're not actually the managers, nhs, a copy a managers, the nhs, it's a copy a little bit more. it can't just be politicians. i absolutely, i agree. i do agree. i think cost of going up everybody's of living going up everybody's struggling and i know recently nurses were in news nurses were in the news everywhere because of going to strike i've about strike and i've spoken about this having worked this before having worked closely them on long hours closely with them on long hours i still know my i'm still on i still you know my i'm still on their side that so i if their side with that so i if there was a case where managers can speak or the other layers of people working , it's not even people working, it's not even about equality of pay , about about equality of pay, about some of fair pay for the some level of fair pay for the amount and pressures and responsibility of work that these do. okay look, thank you very, very much. so great to have you on this show. really good insight that i spoke to veena babu there who is a gp
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arranges stuff that nice to entirely critical of what rishi sunak's community hubs but saying with respect saying something with respect but i think we all but rightly so. i think we all knew which is that the nhs is such multilayered at such a multilayered of misery at the it does need the moment that it does need more sort that more things to sort out that than these community hubs. but maybe step in the right maybe a step in the right direction and i found that quite refreshing hear who refreshing to hear someone who is saying that actually is a gp saying that actually some of the nhs managers to pull their finger out little bit, their finger out a little bit, it be an issue with it can't just be an issue with politicians it's such politicians too. all it's such a polarising there are polarising thing. there are plenty of people who work in the nhs who frankly need to do better. okay, anyway, more on that . a labour has that news. a labour mp has claimed compulsory covid isolation should be considered in an attempt to ease the strain the nhs. does anyone else feel like we're going back in time here a couple of years? member of the house select committee, rachel said if someone is infected, they need to isolate. she also added the importance of testing of ensuring testing as a way of ensuring life continue as normal. life doesn't continue as normal. if people who test positive . i'm if people who test positive. i'm sorry, but what's the point of the vaccine? so what's the point
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7 the vaccine? so what's the point ? vaccines? what's the point ? the vaccines? what's the point of of this? to share his of all of this? to share his thoughts, i'm joined now by former of the european former member of the european parliament, rupert lowe. rupert thank you very much. so i'm sorry, but the point you happened here, the whole point of the whole point of us waiting so long and locking down and waiting for vaccines was that once we had a vaccine, we couldn't live our lives. couldn't go and live our lives. i this person seems to want i mean this person seems to want us in a time warp of a us trapped in a time warp of a covid. your views ? well, my view covid. your views? well, my view is quite i mean, we've got this radical nanny state. and if you look at what happened during the lockdowns which in my view were basically a battle, the older baby boomers who were frightened of dying and the young people whose lives have been messed up by all this. aroney mask wearing all of the proper we had about protecting the nhs and everything else. so what actually happened is we've not only wasted huge sums of money which central planning which does , we've damaged the
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does, we've damaged the interests of the young. we have actually now got more people dying of cancer and if you look at excess death rates, appalling. but you people like rachel maskell, i'm afraid can't help but you come up with some centrally planned scheme to enslave the british people. why not just it to that good sense ? not just it to that good sense? the nhs in my view you know it needs complete reform. it's actually a fraud. yeah we will vast we actually pay vast amounts of national insurance you or whether you actually employed or whether an employer andifs employed or whether an employer and it's not a case of money a case as you said just now organise is it is thought you have far too many people in i call the marzipan layer who think who's ridiculous which means we speak to nurses and paramedics good people there's some very good people patrick in the nhs but they're led very by this marzipan layer who are political , often cut above political, often cut above
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themselves and basically arrogant. they are just, just saying this is true. but a lot of this that are on the take. absolutely 100% on the take. i mean, diversity inclusion officers and all of this stuff. i mean good directors have lived expen i mean good directors have lived experi i mean i'm sorry what on earth paying for. but earth we're paying for. but i just to you back on to just want to get you back on to a bit of truck in terms of the covid a bit of truck in terms of the covm thing, a bit of truck in terms of the covid thing, a question covid thing, there's a question here think and everyone here that i think and everyone will a different answer to will have a different answer to this. judgement. i'm this. there's no judgement. i'm just get your view on just keen to get your view on it. if you have covid, should you isolate? well, i if you isolate? well, i think if you've got code and you feel you're best thing you're not well, the best thing you're not well, the best thing you to do what most you can do is to do what most people doing stay at home. but that's a personal decision. that shouldn't statist , shouldn't be a statist, centrally decision in centrally planned decision in the same way that, you know, whether you take what if you call them a vaccine, whether they're whatever they're gene therapy, whatever you to call it, whether you you want to call it, whether you take or not, be matter take that or not, be a matter for individual should be for the individual should be individual and is individual choice. and this is where country going where the country is going wrong. we're now run by some very average people in parliament and they want to feel that they're doing something and
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what doing is making what they end up doing is making any like this worse. any situation like this worse. so i'm very clear. look at sweden , that man in sweden and sweden, that man in sweden and taken what should be he should be applauded by the world that guys stood up he got it right the numbers now proving that lockdown is extremely damaging and have no beneficial effects . and have no beneficial effects. anything it is damaging, as you quite rightly say, even fact you i dislike profoundly as admitted that most work. so why wait? why are we still banging on with thin end of the wedge ? we're not thin end of the wedge? we're not very careful if people don't wake up will have scratch , will wake up will have scratch, will breathe and we'll have our freedoms taken away okay ? freedoms taken away okay? alright, look rupert, thank you very, very much . catch up on the very, very much. catch up on the show. rupert lowe, that former europe and parliament i'm finding out my ear at the minute i believe that we do have a labour mp own bridget phillipson who is joining us now shadow
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secretary for education. i understand it's all kicking off, you guys. thank you very much. hi. good to have you on the show. oh, it was it was good, right? okay. well, i suppose let's start one out with that. we've really sunak more maths lessons mean just seem be lessons mean not just seem to be directly wheelhouse. directly in your wheelhouse. i mean did note with some humour mean i did note with some humour that diane abbott said that she doesn't appreciate doesn't particularly appreciate the jokes right the whole the jokes right themselves. are you the themselves. where are you on the idea be idea that kids should be studying so they're 18 studying maths and so they're 18 . i think absolutely . i think it's absolutely essential that all young people leave school the skills that they need to well life but they need to do well life but there was no plan from her she stood up today about how he's to deliver this reheated pledge. we know have failed deliver this reheated pledge. we kn
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education system . well education system system. well i think there's an awful lot that needs to change right? our education system, i think starting with when children arrive at school , far too arrive at school, far too many children arrive, not to learn. and we those attainment gaps opening up very that's why i believe we need to reform of our childcare system and early years education to make sure all children get a brilliant start life. we'd also be ending life. but we'd also be ending the breaks that private the tax breaks that private schools enjoy and that's £1.7 billion and we put that money into delivering a brilliant state education for all of our children recruiting more teachers our classroom and teachers into our classroom and delivering health delivering better mental health support people and support for our young people and making sure providing making sure that providing support for headteachers as well. so we set out quite a lot about the different set of priorities that a labour government the change government have and the change that we believe britain needs to see. okay. all right. and when comes to the private school system, let it's going to be deeply public. you know, some people just just the . pol people say that's just just the. pol raise s £1.7 billion and you can
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raises £1.7 billion and you can have a big impact in driving up standards across our country i think it's incredibly important and i've heard no good reason from the prime minister to why he thinks private should continue to enjoy considerable tax breaks. i think those tax breaks are indefensible and given the state of the public finances. you know, he should be making what think is making what i think is a straightforward, decision straightforward, easy decision to that into to invest that money into delivering brilliant strategic delivering a brilliant strategic nafion delivering a brilliant strategic nation for child. i mean, nation for every child. i mean, that's children in that's the vast of children in our country who go to their local, state school and their parents to see improvements. okay. all right. some people would that on maths would say that focusing on maths is there's lot is quite good there's been a lot of identity politics and wokeism in our state school system at the moment. would like to see more of a on kids taught more of a focus on kids taught the curriculum and less of a focus. things like, oh i don't know, transgender issues . i want know, transgender issues. i want to sure that all of our children leave school with a strong grounding in the basics of maths and english and in it, and tackling the chart. you know, all of those important skills around digital, but also broad curriculum too, because i think
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that's what parents want for their children so chance for their children so the chance for their children so the chance for their children so the chance for their children to take in sport and music drama and art all and music and drama and art all of those really areas of our curriculum too sadly too many of our children and the numbers are rising and not getting that rounded education that they need to and aren't getting that to see and aren't getting that really and the really strong grounding and the basics that's you know we've basics that's why you know we've got different set of got a different set of priorities we'd be better priorities and we'd be in better but £1.7 billion into state education. i get that realistically though that's going to take a while to work its way through, isn't it? so scrapping tax breaks for private. okay. right. fair private. okay. all right. fair enough. you've got enough. and then you've got the idea. enough. idea. well, not fair enough. some would say what some people would say what you're going to do and then you've well want to make you've as well you want to make sure early years education sure that early years education for little bit for children is a little bit better in. the short term. what would you actually realistically better in. the short term. what wou because :tually realistically better in. the short term. what wou because :tuebillion,istically better in. the short term. what wou because :tuebillion, some.y do? because 1.7 billion, some people well that just people say, well that just got so probably that into the so we probably pop that into the nhs it been wasted by middle nhs has it been wasted by middle managers ? no. we set out how we managers? no. we set out how we would invest that money directly into our schools and make sure that we do deliver brilliant
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education. but what i've said as well, i announced it last well, and i announced it last year at a labour party conference, we would make that we breakfast clubs. every we have breakfast clubs. every primary in england primary school child in england so can to work so that parents can get to work . have to turn down . often they have to turn down shifts , give because shifts, give up jobs because they can't make it work around they can't make it work around the school day . and would the school day. and it would also children really also give children a really great start too. so there are lots of positive and practical changes we've that changes that we've out that i think would give children great start would also start they need but would also help growth return help parents see growth return to our economy which you know the government have had a consistent failure deliver in recent years . look on now recent years. look on now obviously but she's saying he's keen inflation to get keen to halve inflation to get well reduce the national debt example economy moving example get the economy moving more jobs the other more people jobs etc. the other thing was quite on, at thing that he was quite on, at least allegedly anyway, was stopping the small boats coming , says he's stole , the channel he says he's stole out. labour do to out. what would labour do to stop particular crisis stop that particular crisis crisis where it comes to? what we're seeing at the moment with people making that perilous journey in small boats, we do to see action to clamp down on
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criminal gangs that exploit people and we would make sure that we're setting a new part of national crime agency to take action and make sure that people are not making that journey, which, you know, as we've seen all too often ends tragedy . all too often ends in tragedy. but we do need to see , you but also we do need to see, you know, far, far more swift processing of asylum claims, too. that's the reason we're spending so much money on accommodating in hotels accommodating people in hotels is because of a complete failure of the government to process cases quickly. yes, absolutely . cases quickly. yes, absolutely. alright, thank you, robert. i've just got to ask on this particular question given particular question now, given that genuinely that it's obviously i genuinely doubt the answer to this. so i've to assess, did you go to a state school ? did i go a state state school? did i go a state school . a state school, yeah yes school. a state school, yeah yes . yes, absolutely. yes. i went to i went to my local schools. local state schools. alright, thank you very much . got to ask thank you very much. got to ask that. i've got to ask a little thank you very much. great to have you on the show. it's
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always a pleasure. you very, very much. that's bridget phillipson, who is labour mp, of course, education course, shadow education minister right. well, minister as well. right. well, i tell what, that was a bit tell you what, that was a bit well, unexpected on well, some unexpected stuff on the go. let's the show, but there we go. let's more reaction as well. we're going talking throughout going to be talking throughout the course of show, more the course of the show, more reaction as soon. reaction almost as soon. big five mp five pledges. that was labour mp and shot is actually say for education. bridget phillipson that rightly i'm that we get rightly well i'm going over to news now going to lobby over to news now when come back have when we come back we'll have loads to get stuck into the rough and tumble rishi rough and tumble of rishi sunak's pledges . sunak's big five pledges. patrick thank you. good afternoon. it is coming to 5:00. i'm tatiana sanchez . the i'm tatiana sanchez. the newsroom the prime minister has outlined key promises setting outlined key promises setting out his government's priorities . speaking in east london, rishi issued a series of pledges including promising to halve inflation to tackle the rising of living. growing the economy by pledging to create opportunities across the country . reducing the national debt, he says, will secure the future of
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pubuc says, will secure the future of public services. passing nhs waiting lists to ensure people can get care quicker. and stopping the small boats . stopping the small boats. ensuring people are detained and swiftly removed from the country. while the deputy labour leader, angela rayner responded, saying he's too weak to stand up to his party or vested interests . the prime minister said his government already made steps towards improving the country. since i became , prime minister, since i became, prime minister, we've made progress stabilised the economy and people's mortgage rates provided £26 billion of support for the cost living invested billions in schools. the nhs social care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from ukraine to our collective economic security continued , our economic security continued, our unwavering support for the armed forces and their efforts keep us safe and set out a concrete to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration
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. but of course we need to do more . the royal college of more. the royal college of nursing has responded . the prime nursing has responded. the prime minister's comments about the pressures facing the nhs saying that from reality the rcn say the pressures being are far from ordinary winter pressures. it comes after . ordinary winter pressures. it comes after. the health secretary blamed a surge of flu cases covid and strep a concerns for pressures the nhs faced over christmas . the prime minister christmas. the prime minister also touched the ongoing rail strike, saying his government's doors were open for dialogue with unions. it on the second day of the first of 2/40 eight hour strikes by rail workers with over 40,000 rmt members walking off the job over paid jobs and conditions. train drivers . the aslef union will drivers. the aslef union will strike tomorrow , followed by a strike tomorrow, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday, while the rmt boss mick lynch gb news the union wants
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sensible agreement that everyone support. message that we do apologise the inconvenience and we are working towards getting a solution. but there are a lot of people that are frustrated. we've the health workers, education workers, firefighters are getting the same from are all getting the same from the government that they seem to want the agony and not want to extend the agony and not give people a square deal. and we're we want is a square deal for members. then we can for our members. and then we can create a settlement. this a gb news will bring you monies as it happens now, though, it is back to . to. patrick but it would mean patrick christys on gb news coming up. rishi sunak has announced his vision for the uk as a five point promise, tackling everything from small hbos everything from the small hbos crisis, inflation and crisis, halving inflation and making every schoolchild study maths until are 18. like will maths until we are 18. like will the inbetweeners. he's asking
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you to judges premiership and number 10 on these pledges . so number 10 on these pledges. so five promises we will have in place through years down. i still debates those other people's priorities. they are your government's priorities his . well, good luck judging him along because you couldn't air a word of it. could you? is that good enough for, you? no, of course not. we're also having a look at food costs, the price of nosh has hit record levels. more of us are also to ditch big brands in favour brands, own brands in favour of brands, own store and i can't store brands. and i can't believe this, believe i'm actually this, ladies but proper believe i'm actually this, ladies restriction but proper believe i'm actually this, ladies restriction is but proper believe i'm actually this, ladies restriction is on but proper covid restriction is on genuinely back on the table now . yesterday we had mass guidance . now working from . now we've got working from home and even social distancing. they want it to protect the nhs . shouldn't the nhs be doing more to us? let me know . more to us? let me know. thoughts? of course. gb news our gb news dot uk . get yourself on gb news dot uk. get yourself on the telly as always to . main the telly as always to. main topics in town for today as
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rishi wouldn't you over i want know what you think about that. and have you had enough of protecting the nhs . right i'm protecting the nhs. right i'm going to crack straight on because deputy leader. deputy labour leader says that the pubuc labour leader says that the public could be left asking. is that it? after hearing the prime minister's vision for the country react to rishi sunak's first major speech of the year, angela said for weeks this was hyped up, as is big, but the pm is too weak . stand up for his is too weak. stand up for his party or vested interests . party or vested interests. before we take a deeper look at some of the specific things that the prime minister's five point plan lacks. yes remind ourselves of what to say on that, of what he had to say on that, apparently. there we go. anyway is a political reporter for olivia utley is in central london with us now. maybe you can enlighten olivia. what can enlighten us, olivia. what are some of the specifics, olivia , of what he had to say? olivia, of what he had to say? well, he had five point plan for getting the country back on track . that includes see, if
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track. that includes see, if i off the top of my head getting inflation in halved growing the economy, cutting an nhs waiting lists , sorting out the small lists, sorting out the small boats and make sure that national debt is falling. now three of those i think we can safely say, are already predicted in some at least to happen this year anyway. so we know that inflation is going to go down from the very high that it's currently at. we know that the economy well, we hope that the economy well, we hope that the economy, it's predicted the economy will grow in the next year at least to some respects. and he didn't put a number on how much he expects the nhs waiting list before he suggested. but that by the middle of the next year we might be down to waiting lists of a year and a half. well, that's not hugely ambitious. the other points, though , are all pretty points, though, are all pretty ambitious to say that. he's going to fix the small crisis is a very big promise indeed and it's not quite clear how he's
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going do it. he came up with this five point another five point plan a few weeks ago, which included sending back albanians who come this country illegally . albanians who come this country illegally. but albanians who come this country illegally . but there wasn't much illegally. but there wasn't much more meat on the bones of that. and ministers have conceded that actually just albanians back won't scratch the surface of the problem. indeed, right now, just a big word that keeps coming up in my inbox here is trust and a fundamental lack of it when it comes to rescue. now, what do you think that is ? i think that you think that is? i think that really is? you know, we're starting from a bit a back foot. obviously, he lost leadership election in the summer. he was popular with his own backbenchers, but not popular with the conservative at large. and it's taken a while to sort of win, win, win over the conservative members , let alone conservative members, let alone the country . we've obviously the country. we've obviously gone through a pretty turbulent time for politics generally in the last few years . so trusting the last few years. so trusting politicians of both parties of
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all stripes really is at an all time low , something that does time low, something that does come up when i speak to just people on the street about rishi sunakis people on the street about rishi sunak is he's very he comes across as very slick which to some a sense of confidence that he sort of knows what he's doing. but to others there's a kind of sense of the of the, you know, the spin of tony blair, david cameron era, which which people are perhaps sick of. so that might be why this trust issue is coming up. rishi sunak it be said, is very keen to get trusted people. he mentions trusted people. he mentions trust lot. he talked about not promising more than he can deliver and actually the difference between him and his immediate predecessor, liz truss, was his promises were quite in their scope , quite narrow in their scope, unlike truss who obviously wants to change the world, many steps at a time. but we did a bit more of rishi sunak's day than we seen before, and it was interesting talk interesting to hear him talk social issues, something which we much of at we really heard very much of at all any minister recently. all from any minister recently. yes would say not one bit under the radar. i'm going come
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the radar. i'm going to come talk about a little bit talk about this a little bit later the show, talking about later in the show, talking about things and community things like family and community as which nice as well which is quite nice because do we've because i do think we've absolutely lost that recently, not family, not necessarily family, definitely community. i mean, certainly rather london area. you absolutely you could be absolutely anywhere. thank very anywhere. olivia thank you very much, there much, olivia utley. there political well political reporter and well done. olivia well, for being beaten by your own hair in beaten up by your own hair in the managing to the wind there, managing to continue love say continue unfazed you love say that's professionalism that's his professionalism but let's key let's focus one of the key pledges made the prime pledges made by the prime minister today, rishi minister earlier on today, rishi sunak's that government sunak's, that the government would to stop would pass new laws to stop small making , illegal small boats making, illegal channel crossings, an issue that he's repeatedly called one of his top priorities as prime minister this, the way, minister this, by the way, ladies gentlemen, drills ladies and gentlemen, drills down i was talking to down into what i was talking to olivia about earlier on, which is trust issue. people only is that trust issue. people only think just given up think anyway have just given up on sorting out the small on anyone sorting out the small boats crisis . rishi sunak says boats crisis. rishi sunak says he wants judged on. his he wants to be judged on. his actions better. all actions is better. all comes together guy together quickly for the guy otherwise. well, frankly , otherwise. well, frankly, suppose will just it's suppose people will just it's not to say waste of time. and the last hour we caught up with conservative mp trott this was regarding the crisis. this is
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what she had to say exclusively to very interesting to us. what's very interesting about this. if you look at number of albanian immigrants who are sent back to albania in other countries, for example , other countries, for example, it's in the 18 90, whereas in uk it's in the 18 90, whereas in uk it's 45. i think , you know, it's 45. i think, you know, albanians make up a large number of the illegal immigration which is coming into this. of the illegal immigration which is coming into this . it's is coming into this. it's something that absolutely needs be dealt with. and i think that's why the albanian deal will make a difference. but he wants to go further than that. you set a plan in the you know, he set a plan in the house a few weeks ago house of commons a few weeks ago and he was talking about and then he was talking about further legislation so further legislation today. so this something that can this is not something that can be easily quickly. but be solved easily or quickly. but i maybe the albania i do think maybe the albania will a difference . well, will make a difference. well, there you go, rich. you see, not saying that he wants to get rid of seeker backlogs of the asylum seeker backlogs out so of course it is out so big ask of course it is he's also he wants to stop the small boats which is again another pretty big ask. joining me is former home of me now is former home of a special adviser, claire pearsall . very much. now the . thank you very much. now the british has
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british public has been absolutely battered failed absolutely battered by failed promises platitudes etc. promises and platitudes etc. when it comes to the migrant crisis. no so far has managed to get to grips with it. in fact it's the worst, literally the worst. it's ever been. what's different this time with rishi sunak? well i think there is anything different and. that's the really despairing about it is that there were a lot of hope, hopeful coming out of the prime minister's mouth but absolutely no on what he was going to do to this happen. and unfortunately we've heard this over the last two and a half years from various different people that they were going to stop the boats , going to stop stop the boats, going to stop asylum seekers coming. they're going to remove people quickly. and absolutely has been and absolutely nothing has been done people failing done because people are failing to. understand? where are you going to put them? where are you sending them back and where sending them back to and where are agreements to do so are the agreements to do so? so until you get that sorted. these just very nice words to have. but that's it. yeah now a of but that's it. yeah now a lot of people of course care about the nhs. that was one of his
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pledges. a lot of people absolutely care about the money in inflation, in their pocket inflation, national debt work opportunities. that's unequivocal . those are massive unequivocal. those are massive things . unequivocal. those are massive things. people unequivocal. those are massive things . people really, really, things. people really, really, really do care about. the small boats. and it is a totemic thing because you can literally see it. so very well and good having some inflation figures on a spreadsheet and looking spreadsheet and then looking at the right direction. the going in right direction. but physically see but you can physically see migrants at your local migrants arriving at your local hotel physically see that hotel can physically see that coming channel if he coming across the channel if he doesn't this right, has he doesn't get this right, has he just the general just lost the next general election? i think he has to be honest . it's one of these issues honest. it's one of these issues where a lot has been promised. now i live the county of kent, so you can imagine how people in this county feel about it. people see , them migrants coming people see, them migrants coming across the beach . they see across the beach. they see hotels being taken and used up with . no real plan as how to with. no real plan as how to deal with the individuals coming . so i think this we have a really messy set of local elections coming up in may this yeah elections coming up in may this year. i think that will give you a feel of how angry people are
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across the country and think it will vary county by county. i think that there are some who owns affected by it but those that are i think you'll see a real turn for the conservatives unless . these details are unless. these details are hammered out . but practically, hammered out. but practically, is he actually going to be able to anything? is these phrases to do anything? is these phrases to do anything? is these phrases to stop boats, he's got to to stop the boats, he's got to change laws, doesn't he? he's got to get out of the uk channel. i mean this going to channel. i mean this is going to take indeed take time if it's indeed possible. well it will it will take an enormous amount of time to get these things through and to get these things through and to get these things through and to get it sorted. and the first thing you to look at thing that you have to look at is what are you doing about the backlog of asylum claims of people are already here and you sort that out and unless you have those agreements with other countries individuals, countries to return individuals, you're not going to get any further forward. and just further forward. and you're just going work on the going to sort of work on the fringes without getting to fringes this without getting to the of the problem and you the heart of the problem and you can't stop boats coming over unless you deterrent in unless you have a deterrent in place, which clearly don't. well, no but i wonder whether or
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not he's missing a trick, because least the there is at because at least the there is at least threat of a flight off least the threat of a flight off to rwanda at some point, the near future there is at least a threat of a piano ferry being used as some form of token offshore area, some kind of token offshore migrant processing centre. there is talk at least potentially anyway, there some kind of deal with albania or stronger deportation cases, etc. shouldn't you be going on the attack and going or you might not be happy with what we've done now give me a bit of time do it, but if you've time to do it, but if you've ever that guy over that. keir starmer i'll tell you what, we don't have borders, but can you can the finger in can always point the finger in opposition well, are opposition which is well, we are incredibly and that's incredibly at doing and that's the of in the whole of politics in a nutshell. but unless you can actually back that up, you say about rwanda flights, they may take off in the future i think it's going to be a long time in the future . i don't think the the future. i don't think the pubuc the future. i don't think the public believe is ever going public believe it is ever going to otherwise. it would to happen otherwise. it would have done right now. no, i think that, play that that, yes, you can play that blame game. but essentially, if
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you don't have the details it's a wasted point. just finally, claire, the title claire, we are from the title topic and just more generally about race. you cenac i've said it before , i'll just say again it before, i'll just say again now for people who just joining, as i obviously always have the email front of me and email in front of me here and bofis email in front of me here and boris johnson could have physically a very heinous crime on the steps of downing street and people thousands of people would have told me that it didn't matter and there was still vote for the rishi sunak is just not as liked as boris johnson at all. why is the i think there is a large part of the public who see that it was rishi sunak who brought down bofis rishi sunak who brought down boris johnson . now, whether that boris johnson. now, whether that is true or not that is the narrative that is out there and they see him as the one who betrayed boris, the person that they liked, the person that they voted for. and i think that really the crux the really is the crux of the matter. i think that rishi sunak an awful lot of ground to make
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up, he will never be as good up, but he will never be as good as johnson that rabble as boris johnson that rabble rousing speech as we've today. yeah yeah. you're obviously spot on.thank yeah yeah. you're obviously spot on. thank you very much. so that is former home office special adviser. right. we're moving on. she mentioned that i didn't she about the local elections coming and whether or not tories are going to get a bit of a kicking now what the public mood will be like and right on cue have conservative councillor for windsor maidenhead stuart carroll who's joining me right. stuart, have back stuart, great to have you back on of course. on the show. of course. fantastic. what you as fantastic. and what you make as a local councillor , what rishi a local councillor, what rishi sunak to say his five sunak had to say his five promises. do you feel secure in yourjob now ? good afternoon, yourjob now? good afternoon, patrick good afternoon, sir. your view is, look pleased to see that rishi sunak is focusing on. certainly the big issue of small votes and the order which we've discussed before is a massive issue. i think in terms of the economy. it's quite clear
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we've . got to continue to get an we've. got to continue to get an inflation under control that has come down. we need to see a much radical plan for growth, though it's not enough to talk about growth. we've got to actually say, what does that mean? what emphasise where are we going to prioritise always? we've got to start really up our manufacturing base again across various sectors really looking at a dynamic life sciences strategy and technological strategy and technological strategy . i think on the nhs strategy. i think on the nhs we've got to as a country start having a serious discussion about what the nhs is for and what it's not for, because if we're going to deal with these folks , i think we've got to folks, i think we've got to start prioritise . the nhs is in start prioritise. the nhs is in peril. it's it's a priority but we've got a bigger conversation not just in currently in rights . stuart, just stay where you are because just want to play a little clip of something you got a bit reaction to it earlier today, we also heard an alternative and this is important actually, it slipped into the for obvious into the radar for obvious reasons. rishi our prime minister comes out and, you
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know, issues it. five promises and all of this stuff. so this is main headline the day. is the main headline of the day. but happened earlier but something happened earlier on, is very on, which is very very important, the leader the important, is the leader of the reform party, by the way, reform party, which by the way, is polling plenty of places is now polling plenty of places above liberal democrats . so, above the liberal democrats. so, you gone from you know, he's gone from just being party. that being kind of fringe party. that was. i don't to say was. well, i don't to say relatively easy ignored, but relatively easy ignored, but relatively easy. you what ? relatively easy. you know what? and are, you know, really and now are, you know, really becoming front and centre and they have promised. richard tice they have promised. richard tice the leader of the reform party , the leader of the reform party, has promised a stunning promises to stand candidates against every tory in state in northern ireland. well, he outlined his vision for the united kingdom and for the country. and i think we can achieve just in a little bit of a clip of us now, this is richard is the leader of reform uk. surely one of the most important things that a government can do is to maintain secure borders, to know who's coming and who's going out. secure borders, to know who's coming and who's going out . they coming and who's going out. they kept saying that one of the
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brexit advantages that many of us fought for so hard was to take control of our borders. but now the tories have completely abandoned it. nearly now the tories have completely abandoned it . nearly 46,000 and abandoned it. nearly 46,000 and illegal migrants coming across the . channel over 1.1 million the. channel over 1.1 million additional people coming into the country on a gross basis in the country on a gross basis in the year . to 2022. stuart the year. to 2022. stuart welcome back. as is local stuart carroll . if rishi sunak doesn't carroll. if rishi sunak doesn't get to grips with what's going on in the channel, there's a chap there, richard tice and reform party who clearly have strong views on it and will be standing sounds of it. every single concern steve mp the next general action. that's a problem for the tories, isn't it ? it general action. that's a problem for the tories, isn't it? it is a major problem . and that's a major problem. and that's precisely why on a political level it's imperative that the prime minister and the
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government gets a grip of this issue . but the not talking about issue. but the not talking about it is a priority. but we have to go above and beyond the talk and actually start the wall. that does mean because for which i'm told what i do is i'm a lot more rigorous about legal review legal application . and if we legal application. and if we take, for example, the bill france that rhode island could have in patrols of more resources , we need to have legal resources, we need to have legal enforcement . we can't just be enforcement. we can't just be patrolling simply crossing the channel and matter ended on our shores . we've got to i think shores. we've got to i think stop a lot harder . a strategic stop a lot harder. a strategic game with france so much from colleagues of law . political colleagues of law. political consequences are going to be it. look sure it's very, very much sure, carol, that who is local council in the royal borough of windsor, maine. and he's been very vocal on this channel numerous times about what's been going on in the channel. and he
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wants reactions there wants to get his reactions there in relation to one of rishi sunak's five promises. we've sunak's big five promises. we've done of today. we've done a lot of them today. we've got law, we've got got his education law, we've got the we've also spoke a lot the nhs. we've also spoke a lot about small boat about the economy, small boat things. we is massive things. all we know is a massive issue that's close to your issue that's very close to your heart. now i'm just going to go quickly anyway, back into my inbox. vaiews@gbnews.uk quickly anyway, back into my inbox. gb one s@gbnews.uk quickly anyway, back into my inbox. gb one s@ the ews.uk quickly anyway, back into my inbox. gb one s@ the ews.uiemailed has been one of the most emailed into shows that i've ever done here, and that is a very high bar, actually, because you wonderful listeners are wonderful viewers, listeners are not dishing your opinion. wonderful viewers, listeners are not has dishing your opinion. wonderful viewers, listeners are not has dishon. your opinion. wonderful viewers, listeners are not has dishon. herr opinion. dom has been on. he says, patrick, keep asking why the patrick, you keep asking why the word trust coming up in word trust keeps coming up in relation rishi sunak and it relation to rishi sunak and it does. this massive thing. does. this is a massive thing. people do and trust you and people just do and trust you and then juxtaposed there then really juxtaposed there isn't because boris isn't that right because boris johnson, know was johnson, we all know that i was a of boris johnson. a a big fan of boris johnson. a lot people not always lot of people were not always the most trustworthy chap in the world. did it with world. right. but did it with a bit of a and a smile. but bit of a nod and a smile. but people would have gone into battle behind johnson battle behind boris johnson rishi. know, people seem rishi. so, you know, people seem to down got the to trust in down has got the answer be says it simply answer may be says it simply stop boris in the back yet he denied it apparently there you go that maybe the view go so that was maybe the view that a lot as well of
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that a lot of you as well of course saying that look course saying that actually look you really like what you you don't really like what you see not because you've not had the to vote for him and i whether or not this just is to be a massive ball and chain rishi neck until the rishi sunak's neck until the next general election because people thought well they didn't like the fact that maybe boris got best then let's trust or at least the members got a vote on trusts she absolutely cut off at the knees. if you look at the opinion the way, liz opinion polling, by the way, liz truss doing hugely worse truss was not doing hugely worse than sunak now, but there than mr. sunak is now, but there was no is this is as bad as it gets. it is terrible is absolutely awful. she knows bit to when it came to the to an edge when it came to the economy actually massively economy actually not massively radical england radical bank of england after completely sunak completely that rishi sunak comes anointed by a load of comes in anointed by a load of mps not had the chance to mps you've not had the chance to actually got actually for him you've got absolutely no say . even if absolutely no say. even if you're a conservative party member i think member, have you? and i think this a massive thing. it's this is a massive thing. it's certainly paul. he certainly an issue for paul. he just simple until just says it simple until there's public vote. rishi, he there's a public vote. rishi, he is not my prime minister and that's a problem. however however, just final one. however, just one final one. sarah been on. sarah says,
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sarah has been on. sarah says, give the chance he's asked give the guy a chance he's asked for i'm willing give to for time. i'm willing to give to him alternative is much him the alternative is much worse. i was going to say it's a mixed bag in the inbox, to be honest. you it's not really the reality is a lot of you don't particularly like what she said it why not tell me it would appear why not tell me why want to drill down in did why i want to drill down in did he say anything that you particular disagreed with the five which five key points realistic which were it down to a were i can narrow it down to a few actually he's just you know nhs immigration and economy nhs immigration and the economy if really that all down if we really break that all down which bits that you agree which bits of that did you agree with disagree with why do with or disagree with and why do you not trust him? you or do you not trust him? it's me, patrick christys gb news. coming up, the price of food jumped to record food has jumped to record levels, more the levels, heaping more on the government action on government to take action on business and economic. tell it to liam halligan. we'll break down you. have down those numbers for you. have crunched numbers, but before down those numbers for you. have crunised numbers, but before down those numbers for you. have crunis ai numbers, but before down those numbers for you. have crunis a shortiumbers, but before down those numbers for you. have crunis a short .|mbers, but before
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roy, welcome back. we've done the small boat stuff. we did the nhs stuff a little bit earlier on. let's talk about the money stuff now inflation shows no immediate waning . immediate signs of waning. that's the words the british retail consortium chief executive prices remain executive as food prices remain close to 40 year highs. new show a rise to 30.3% last month as many cash households struggles with the high cost over christmas and fresh food prices. so the biggest rise marking its highest monthly inflation rise since records began back in 2005. liam halligan joins me now, our economics and business editor with all the . money you editor with all the. money you love to sing, i'll just have to sing it tonight on the money, right? liam thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show. there we are no expense spared with the prime gb news brightly and we want to broaden our a bit. i feel like we've kind of go around the house a bit this inflation. so what do you want to talk to me about
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because this speech you on because this speech was you on domestic they. well yeah let's just through the numbers so just go through the numbers so the number just just go through the numbers so the numberjust do just go through the numbers so the number just do the the inflation numberjust do the first graphic here if can first graphic here if we can inflation food inflation number four fresh food was 14.3% in november. so that means in november last year, 2022 food a basket of food , 2022 food a basket of food, 14.3% higher than november in the year before the december fresh food inflation number. here's the number that came out, dave, from the british retail consortium. that was 15. that is a record. so food price inflation, that's much higher than inflation, which the than inflation, which is the consumer index in november that consumer index in november that consumer price index was 10.7. and the december consumer price index number come out on the 18th of january. so clearly food is a lot more expensive going up a lot faster than other goods. and that really harms lower income households . and this is income households. and this is where i think rishi sunak wrong today. this sounded to me, as i said, when we were on with tom harwood like, a kind of campaign
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manager's speech delivered by professional politician. i didn't really see any empathy telling people who are really worried they're going to lose their home or about their job or how they're going to pay their energy bill that their kid needs to maths . it's not a way to do more maths. it's not a way to do more maths. it's not a way to particularly in the a politician you know talking from on the higher wealthy man with all respect to him so ordinary men and we're being a bit mean almost now. you know, i do i do relish points of difference between ourselves the bbc and it does appear you know the bbc do tend to bash the tories quite lot and i am very conscious of the fact the, you know, we sat through rishi sunak's and i wasn't massively impressed by it and clearly a of our viewers and clearly a lot of our viewers in inbox where we bashing in the inbox where we bashing it, matt, as you said earlier, politics is policy, but it's also about personal . let's see . also about personal. let's see. and first impression is and this is the first impression of him for a lot of people who aren't obsessed by politics in the news
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as we it's his first major speech as prime minister and i don't think he did enough to connect he sounded like a young tony blair without all this kind of freshness and the hope which new labour did then represent in the mid 1990s. also political correspondent at the time the tories have been in power for well over decade. they seem tired and all the rest of it and don't think that he really did enough. don't think that he really did enough . there was not enough enough. there was not enough nearly enough about housing, which is a touchstone issue, not just for people you know, 30 somethings, 40 somethings trying to buy their own home slightly further up the income scale . but further up the income scale. but for people on the council house waiting list, there are a million, 1.3 million of them. a lot of them in those red wall constituencies. i didn't hear anything about social housing. i didn't hear anything about the intergenerational inequalities which there are in the uk saying, oh, we more innovation, we need our kids do more maths. yeah, they're all very things and he's right of , course he's
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and he's right of, course he's right. but in politics you got to put the thing that is need it in front of the people at the opposite time and i don't think strategically he did that. it seemed a little bit like a sticking plaster, but i think he identified all of the key areas, all of the correct key areas. it needs sorting. you got small, but because nhs for the but it's because the nhs for the economy right. economy obviously. right. it didn't the on any of didn't miss the target on any of those. for me it was lacking those. but for me it was lacking a bold, clear rallying a really bold, clear rallying cry you know, needed cry vision. you know, we needed only need someone anyway only fit. we need someone anyway who really unite behind. who we can really unite behind. and felt a little bit and this to me felt a little bit devoid of ambition true for devoid of ambition or true for her. and was no jeopardy in it all. pretty much all those pledges that are probably going to happen anyway , inflation's to happen anyway, inflation's probably going to halve this yeah probably going to halve this year. we're probably going to get back to growth sometime this year. get back to growth sometime this year . but as get back to growth sometime this year. but as tom and i and you proved our various guests. yeah. and got on twitter and made phone calls. we finally found out that the pledge to start bringing down the national debt that's within five years. i say that's within five years. i say that in the speech he know he
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did it. so would like to have did it. so i would like to have seen i would have liked seen pledges that actually inspired more sense that he's not more of a sense that he's not just to make pledges that just going to make pledges that he knows are going to be fulfilled claim credit fulfilled so he can claim credit later. yeah. things where he's actually have go actually to have to really go the extra mile in terms of to deliver leadership for british people at time when there is a people at a time when there is a lot of angst there. i think lot of angst out there. i think he really tapped into angst he really tapped into the angst and gave the sense that he really understood it. now, look, i agree with you. one thing that he say and resonated with me he did say and resonated with me anyway , he spoke about having anyway, he spoke about having stronger families and a stronger sense of community in this country. that's a good thing. we need more of that. absolutely but almost like motherhood but it's almost like motherhood and conservative and apple pie. a conservative for that. want, i mean, for that. i want, i mean, everyone family values, everyone wants family values, right? even people who don't see the traditional family unit as maybe you may see it, if . woman maybe you may see it, if. woman 2.4 kids, you know, he so in the uk to those people who have less traditional views of family but
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who doesn't want more family , who doesn't want more family, who doesn't want more family, who doesn't want more family, who doesn't want more innovation who doesn't want more innovation who doesn't want more innovation who doesn't want more growth was almost a series of banal statements about the obvious there was no risk involved . and there was no risk involved. and whether there is leadership means risk leadership means putting your reputation on the line . and i thought he played it line. and i thought he played it far too safe. at a time when the country is looking for leadership, there's clearly a trust issue with rishi sunak's this work is coming up time and time again and i can why this sense of a lack of personality as well and a of a big as well and a lack of a big rallying cry, some kind of bombastic figure , by the bombastic uniting figure, by the way, well. similar stuff when way, as well. similar stuff when it comes to the labour party. which leads me onto this final question liam, is question to you, liam, which is amount politically amount of people politically homeless and today we had richard reform uk who richard tice to reform uk who came at least is my came up at least that is my vision. example , and he's vision. for example, and he's promised to at least at this stage, no promises and a candidate because every single conservative mp so every single state in the uk at the next general election that could the
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tory vote that could be a massive had ferocious say not you there's been a debate you know there's been a debate among the media today were gb news go richard tice as news right to go richard tice as they go live as we saw sound richard tice the statement and i think we absolutely were right i mean i agree it's not about what i think with richard tice though i think with richard tice though i do talk to him a lot about policy and i think some of his policies are pretty like 20% starting rate of income , 2020 starting rate of income, 2020 grand for starting rate of tax. i think that's a completely progressive policy highlighting that many poor people disproportionately pay high amounts of their money on income tax. all of that is a really good policy. the important thing is, as you say , that if tice and is, as you say, that if tice and guys stand in every tory seat, they could determine the next election because they will split the tory vote in key marginals . the tory vote in key marginals. so just like a bloke called and of course nigel is the gb news colleague is chairman of but you
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know, i make up our own minds about things but just as ukip basically forced the conservative so at least hold a referendum, european union membership back in 2016, i think given the support the reformist generating could force the tories to do certain things between now and the general election. and i don't hear rishi sunak dismissing as fruitcakes , sunak dismissing as fruitcakes, nutcases and racists the way that david cameron dismissed wrongly, in my view, dismissed. absolutely yeah, indeed. liam, thank you very much . been great thank you very much. been great throughout the course of this show. liam our economics business editor look closer are getting in touch on this . getting in touch on this. rosemary after many years rosemary says after many years of voting i will most of voting tory, i will most definitely voting reform . i definitely be voting reform. i am sure by now will have all am sure by now you will have all heard. of course rishi sunak's fine promises. doing ties fine promises. we are doing ties versus next, make sure versus sunak. next, make sure you your views in. you get your views coming in. what do like boris? what do you like about boris? she what do you like? she has to say what do you like? did sway in any shape or did it sway you in any shape or form? do you trust him to deliver on any of those issues? gb gb uk is the
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gb is gb news dot, uk is the battle the parties next it's battle of the parties next it's sunak versus richard tice leader the to set out his vision the uk to set out his vision today. so won the war? today. so who won the war? the words we're be finding words we're going to be finding out very shortly. but out very, very shortly. but first news first is the latest news headlines. tossing our . pa headlines. we're tossing out our. pa the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister has outlined five key promises setting out government's priorities . government's priorities. speaking in east london, rishi sunak a series of pledges, including promising to halve inflation , tackle the rising inflation, tackle the rising cost of living growing the economy , pledging to create more economy, pledging to create more opportunity across the country. reducing the national debt which says will secure the future of pubuc says will secure the future of public services. cutting waiting lists to ensure can get care quicker . and stopping the small quicker. and stopping the small boats. ensuring are detained and swiftly removed from the country. now, while the deputy labour leader angela rayner responded, saying he's too weak , stand up to his party or
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vested , the prime minister said vested, the prime minister said his government had already made steps improving the country . steps improving the country. since i became prime minister , since i became prime minister, we've made progress. stabilise the economy and people's mortgage rates provided . £6 mortgage rates provided. £6 billion of support for the cost of living, invested billions more schools, the nhs and social care deepened ties with allies around the world on everything from to ukraine our collective economic security continued our support for, the armed forces and their efforts to keep us safe and set out a concrete plan to stop the boats and tackle the unfairness of illegal migration . but of course , we need to do . but of course, we need to do more . the college of nursing has more. the college of nursing has responded to the prime minister's comments about the pressures the nhs saying that from reality the say the
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pressures being faced are far from ordinary winter pressures . from ordinary winter pressures. it comes after the health secretary blamed a surge of flu cases covid and strep aiken's for pressures the nhs over over the christmas period period . the the christmas period period. the prime minister also touched on the ongoing rail strike saying . the ongoing rail strike saying. his government's door is always open for dialogue with unions. it comes the second day of the first of two, 48 hour strikes by rail with over 40,000 durham team members walking off the job over paid jobs and conditions. train drivers in the aslef union will strike tomorrow, followed by a second 48 hour rmt strike on friday. and author faye weldon , best known for her novel weldon, best known for her novel the life and love of a devil, has died at age of 91. she published than 30 novels in her career , as well as short stories career, as well as short stories and plays written for television, radio and stage. she was also one of the writers on the popular 1970s drama series upstairs downstairs tv online
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gb news welcome back now? rishi sunak today laid out his plans for the uk, pledging tackle inflation longer , nhs waiting lists and longer, nhs waiting lists and crucially as well the channel migrant crisis. however the money many see as chief rival on the right richard said reform uk also delivered a speech today blasting the government and promising tax cuts and stronger borders . so which party the borders. so which party the conservatives all reform has the best plan for britain in 2023. i believe we can actually just have a little clap and say little clip anyway of richard times better contact has been banging on about rishi sunak all day. let's hear from thais,
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shall . we or not anyway. right. shall. we or not anyway. right. joining me now is political commentators. the party's joe flynn, dave wise, the reform uk councillor. we go right. okay who won the battle? do you think? i'll start with you, patrick o'flynn . who is, of patrick o'flynn. who is, of course, the political commentator. what do you make of this, do you think that this, then? do you think that richard maybe will usurp rishi sunak's every sunak's going to stand in every single supposedly . well, i single seat, supposedly. well, i thought richard tice at the easy a toss because clearly things haven't gone particularly well in the last of years. but as to his big today, which was raising the personal tax allowance 12 and a half thousand to 20,000 a cost of and a half thousand to 20,000 a cost 0 f £40 billion a year. to cost of £40 billion a year. to me , that sort of got that a me, that sort of got that a smack of trust nomics perhaps, which is the distrust that i personally feel that the of the personally feel that the of the personal allowance is high enough and people should be paying enough and people should be paying at least some tax. i, for instance, i prefer brought back the ten pe starting rate of tax
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and pushed the standard rate threshold much higher . so and pushed the standard rate threshold much higher. so i was actually quite with rishi sunak's speech believe it or not, because of the five priorities. i think finally gives him some definition and i was delighted to see the votes issue being a key one of those. well, exactly look, there's. there's no denying i. think that rishi sunak's identified five key issues facing this country is whether not he's actually got the solutions people trust the solutions or people trust him the solutions him to enact the solutions in order to it out. and dave, order to carry it out. and dave, i'll bring you here. dave, why is reforming council on that is reforming uk council on that issue reform around a winner out there? because they've not been in power means that people haven't built up a visceral for them yet . absolutely. as i say them yet. absolutely. as i say it's easier in opposition , easy it's easier in opposition, easy to criticise, but what uk and excuse me have come with is a set of credible plans , accosted set of credible plans, accosted manifesto and a real alternative of and what's exciting about reform uk and particularly comparing two press releases,
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the two statements today rishi sunak was completely lacking on any detail of policies or solutions or richard times went in at the lead and address people's real issues. dave i'll stick with you for a second on this. now that the and actually to be honest with each wave in the inbox is the only criticism i'm really getting of reform at a of times that in a minute is that deliberately in every single seat means that you're starting the tories which means that you may well split the vote, which means you my vote, which means that you my are guaranteeing a labour government. i'm not. that's government. no i'm not. that's the case. i'm in bounds. let me council. and barnsley is a very strong labour area and always has support i got has been. the support that i got when i switched over to reform from all manner of people , from all manner of people, labour party supporters from floating voters, not only not from people were sort of completely political capitalism admitted did not vote in the last ten or 15 years. so is a credible alternative and we're finding with membership that we're pulling people in from
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various parts and various areas. it's not just before we vote , it's not just before we vote, patrick, then i'll bring you back . dave mentioned patrick, then i'll bring you back people dave mentioned patrick, then i'll bring you back people beingmentioned patrick, then i'll bring you back people being politically , about people being politically, does see an outcome them a does you see an outcome them a home? i think they're a bit sick and tired of it. they want to move probably want to go move out and probably want to go and reformed other. and move into a reformed other. yeah. many do. think yeah. many them do. i think rishi is trying to stitch rishi sunak is trying to stitch back together coalition that won for johnson in 2019 for boris johnson in 2019 because the three main subject areas the economy the nhs and immigration particularly illegal immigration particularly illegal immigration those are the top three issues of 2019 tory voters . i must agree it's wrong to criticise reform for saying oh that labour in i think offering voters new choice is a more choices is always a good thing and i think power to the alba of reform in places like barnsley i know they have very strong support. patrick i'll stay with you personality matters in politics. keir starmer i've often said is so wooden that
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birds are nesting and rishi sunak reminds of well from the inbetweeners it's , his desolate inbetweeners it's, his desolate season and his speech today did absolutely nothing to change that. absolutely nothing to change that . in fact, absolutely nothing to change that. in fact, i would go as far as to say a really surprising of gb news viewers and listeners . gb news viewers and listeners. i'm looking at the evidence here in my inbox hated it. i'm looking at the evidence here in my inbox hated it . yeah, in my inbox hated it. yeah, i mean i think i'm the odd one out there because i didn't quite hate i thought it was very much a tony blair tribute tacked with the five key pledges as we went down. this is my point, patrick. so let just qualify this so let me just qualify this partly sorry, because i'm fluff. the slightly that the question is slightly that because got the because you've got the personality and they personality right and they didn't like the personality vacuum, was stilted . you vacuum, it was very stilted. you could tell he was reading an auto let's honest. the auto key. let's be honest. the way ask questions, what way i ask questions, like what he bit more of, well, he do with a bit more of, well, i thought into stride yet i thought he got into stride yet he started off quite stilted and i thought he was actually very good to the q&a good when he got to the q&a session with the media and that did put me very much in mind of tony. now, whether tony blair personality, i still has the
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magic the voters after all the disappointments that followed his later years is yet be seen. but i think soon that will be on the content of his delivery in the content of his delivery in the next 18 months or so and particularly if he goes the extra mile strains every sinew as he said he would to stop the small boat crossing things and does things which ignite fury among the liberal left establishment. i think got a chance of rerunning that feeling that boris johnson and dominic cummings engendered in autumn 2019. they didn't get us out of the eu then, but were thwarted by the establishment and they used that as a springboard to get a majority. i can see not doing same on illegal immigration. i think going into the next election with more radical manifesto proposals on that issue. yeah, if all the british public writes to not trust rishi sunak's when it comes to things like the small crisis . but absolutely. i comes to things like the small crisis. but absolutely. i mean the fight pledges obviously
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ianed the fight pledges obviously invited the drop anyway. people are aware of growth in the economy that was just moment ago rejected by the by the westminster party the boats and the nhs waiting . let's be honest the nhs waiting. let's be honest i mean cameron talking about the nhs waiting list, i think people have completely lost trust , have completely lost trust, confidence and how long it take to stop the boats across the not evenin to stop the boats across the not even in the timescale on this the trust is gone and you mentioned personality to this and i'm i with this speech quite condescending and patronising to a lot of people when he was talking about education and matic's and some these so many things people are sort and don't put the heating on people's number reduces waiting to go to hospital losing it what does this actually to do with me these it was almost almost a manifesto speech it's almost as if to was refreshing to the job and newly elected in a new party's forgotten the last 12 years. there's no excuse not look it was very much the kind
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of thing it was a bit like a dragons den pitch. i thought , dragons den pitch. i thought, actually, to be honest with you , patrick, making children almost at gunpoint studying maths till the age of 18. i mean, the conservative is in desperate need of trying to enfice desperate need of trying to entice young voters , dare i say entice young voters, dare i say that that is not the right way to go , it nobody votes for the to go, it nobody votes for the bloke that made them study maths . now i tend to agree with you you know, i was glad to finish maths at the age of 16 . maths at the age of 16. hopefully the maths is taught well and 11 years of education should be enough to bring up to standard. and then let's on to voluntary maths . the people with voluntary maths. the people with aptitude that yeah i mean look i'm sorry i know also i'm yet to see any evidence forcing people to study something for an extra two years that they don't want to study. i don't think delivers any results anyway. i don't think all of us are going to end
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up load of boffins, are up with a load of boffins, are we really when it comes to that? dave, i've got to ask you, reform on the reform uk supposedly on the march, supposedly anyway in plenty doing plenty of areas doing much better liberal better the liberal democrats although. hard although. it's not too hard i suppose. mean i don't remember suppose. i mean i don't remember last from a lot of last time i heard from a lot of those we did have christine jardine pop up rather unexpectedly earlier on in the show. sure anyone booked show. i'm not sure anyone booked her, it going to her, but dave, what it going to take to actually get take for people to actually get into booth and when into that polling booth and when they've got that pencil of the pen down and the options pen down there and the options in of them actually in front of them actually changing ever changing the have it ever actually from to tory actually shifting from to tory because they outside the because what they outside the polling booth is different . what polling booth is different. what goes there a lot of the goes on in there a lot of the time, agree there's a lot of time, i agree there's a lot of work to do. there's a lot of raising awareness. talk to people on the side to me. people now on the side to me. well tell me about your policies. tell me about reform actually stand there's actually stand for. but there's an a genuine an interest there a genuine interest to learn an interest there a genuine interwant to learn an interest there a genuine interwant an to learn an interest there a genuine interwant an alternative.3arn an interest there a genuine interwant an alternative. the they want an alternative. the lib as iran decided the lib dems as iran decided the message there was ability whatsoever . so there's a huge whatsoever. so there's a huge amount of disillusioned labour voters who are looking for an
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alternative as well. now we're get more up together and that's reflected in membership and activity and various other things. happening now things. this is happening now it's something for the time. it's not something for the time. it's not already . people are it's not already. people are asking those questions . all asking those questions. all right, look, both of you, stay where you that's all where you are if that's all right. i am now, i'll be to do this for a while. but i believe. i'm really going to do it this time. we're going hear from richard tice, who is leader richard tice, who is the leader of is he had to of reform uk is what he had to say we've had 12 years say earlier. we've had 12 years of government by various incarnations of what i call the con socialists taxes the highest for 70 years government spending the highest for about years. inflation the highest for 30 years plus and productivity collapsing everywhere the lowest for at least 30 years . okay, for at least 30 years. okay, there we go. can i bring back there we go. can i bring back the two political gurus , daily
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the two political gurus, daily political commentators? if i go flynn dave winter reform uk . flynn dave winter reform uk. patrick let's be honest , closer patrick let's be honest, closer to the election times wheels out. farage then he's won a lot of seats. doesn't i think he's won a lot of votes i think the conservative higher ups are still terrified of nigel and that nigel can bring some magic the table for reform . but what the table for reform. but what we're seeing here indifference. and dave, i'll bring you back in now if you're just joining us is reform council the right rishi sunak's in may doesn't appear to have a particularly robust ideology may be does. right. but it perhaps is not expressing it as a bombastic way is devastate bofis as a bombastic way is devastate boris johnson who ironically didn't appear to actually act on his supposed didn't we, rishi he doesn't appear to have it does richard tice have a proper ideology as he got a proper flag that it can stick in the ground of people at least know what they're voting for? yes, i think with reform , with richard, with reform, with richard, people recognise that a genuine
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interest in in the working class and the working man of the tax reforms that have put forward. you know, this has been about and debated at great there actual care or concern that when the prime minister again to insert his speech i'm privileged he was to work at his parent's pharmacy which we are are not aware of frankly you're privileged is the right word but he's very difficult to compare the two speeches that because richard was detail and talking about real real issues we got five you know almost yeah so we're going to challenges for the prime minister. yeah look we had 50 rishi initially and that was basically down to the fact that a lot people clearly still have not forgiven him for the perceived of boris johnson in the back . now, patrick, have we the back. now, patrick, have we got wishy washy, rishi? but as you know, actually done enough
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to kind almost give himself enough rope to hang with because if we still have small boats over channel in a couple over the channel in a couple of years we almost inevitably years time, we almost inevitably will. also have broken will. then also have broken promise opposed , inflation is promise as opposed, inflation is kind predicted . go down any kind of predicted. go down any way with it. you could the economy might improve by the time the next election rolls around. nhs waiting list. we're just coming of a horror show of a period with the winter a period out with the winter period. suppose will period. so i suppose there will be when he can point to the waiting maybe but i'm waiting list going maybe but i'm just not it a bit just whether or not it was a bit to washy people want more was the last thing of the thick it was like the announcement is there's an announced . no there's not an announced. no i don't think that's quite fair think the first two months of his premiership have been wishy washy. richie and what on earth does he stand for? what's the big idea and we have this pre announcement compulsory maths to 18 which is more of an echo of a john major cousins hotline level of big idea but. the actual speech i thought was quite useful politically just sunak on
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the tories, it's identified a set of priorities and that's i think key one is the small boats he'll clearly bust the got deliver some improvement there and we await with interest what sir keir somare says to both of you.thank sir keir somare says to both of you. thank you very very much. political commentator patrick flynn white as well, flynn white there as well, a reform uk . those of you been reform uk. those of you been getting in touch with your thoughts on rishi sunak's bold vision brexit in 2023, which vision for brexit in 2023, which we've discussing throughout we've been discussing throughout the beverley says if seena the show, beverley says if seena was interested in this country. he have more polytechnic he would have more polytechnic type colleges to give those who struggle with academic studies an opportunity gain an opportunity to gain work qualifications. could not qualifications. i could not agree the idea that you agree more. the idea that you want of kids who maybe want a load of kids who maybe don't maths there don't like maths to sit there and slave away for another two years doing maths absolutely bonkers people practical bonkers get people practical trade, stop stigmatising people who want to do practical trades . we need more practical tradesmen, need fewer people, . we need more practical trades opinion, need fewer people, . we need more practical trades opinion, goingfewer people, . we need more practical trades opinion, going to fer people, in my opinion, going to university to actually do mickey mouse degrees suddenly themselves lifetime phyllida themselves the lifetime phyllida you know what? rishi i thought he out that he was banging out touch that alister mr. sunak
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alister says mr. sunak has signed the political five point death order for the conservative party. say bring back boris. party. i say bring back boris. and there's and you know what, there's a heck a lot of this going heck of a lot of this going about alistair, isn't there, a lot the bring back brigade lot of the bring back brigade are force. matt says the are out in force. matt says the conservatives saving conservatives have no of saving seats election . you seats at the next election. you know what can i just say? this show? i have found myself sounding more more like bbc sounding more more like the bbc than before. just been than ever before. it's just been unrelenting bashing, unrelenting tory bashing, but it's coming from me it's not actually coming from me . be fair, but a lot . it is, to be fair, but a lot of it's coming from guys. i mean, does that say? i mean, what does that say? i suspect is actually ironically, because it's conservative because it's not conservative enough you sitting enough for plenty of you sitting what dewberry is what they michelle dewberry is up and co be with you up next james and co be with you for the next hour michel, what have got on for us? yeah have you got on for us? yeah hello, patrick. yeah, i've got to say i do take a bit of credit actually for rishi's point plan because show because anyone that watched show on what did we on monday, that's what did we came up with a five point plan for rishi for 8 hours or so later it's come up with his own. so i'm fascinated to see what the viewers make it. are they impressed or will he impressed by it or not? will he actually deliver not. this actually deliver or not. this whole of well,
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whole notion of maths as well, that were about and that you were just about and patrick, mean blows my brain patrick, i mean blows my brain and going to make and how are you going to make you know to the age of 18 sit and land maths they do want and land maths if they do want to for those that do to fine for those that do everyone really i want to get into and the bonfire of brexit regulations where are we at with it. where should we be out it. one of the concerns around it and mps wearing stop vests is that essential or is a little that essential or is it a little bit too far? i want people's thoughts michel thoughts on that. oh, michel it's going to be box office hours per make sure you stay locked in front of your screens right gb for the right here on gb news for the wonderful will be with you wonderful who will be with you for dewbs& very, very for dewbs& co very, very shortly. thank you very much. everybody is chatting to me throughout course. 3 throughout the course. this 3 hours. reaction, of hours. massive reaction, of course, sunak's course, to rishi sunak's big five and we've got five point plan and we've got covering for on eight so not i will see you in a sec hello again it's aidan mcgivern here from met office for from the met office mild for most of through next hours most of us through next 24 hours one northern scotland one exception northern scotland overnights then turns overnights but it's then turns all across the uk into thursday with outbreaks of rain in some spots . we've got a brief
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spots. we've got a brief interlude between weather systems one low moving away to the one low approaching from the west, and then between some clear spells with winds easing as well. so it spells for the midlands, east of england, north to scotland and actually it's across north—east scotland with those clear spells and with lighter winds that we'll see a touch of frost to first thing thursday, a showers generally in the north easing overnight they'll take some time, but eventually most will be drier. but look to the west where northern ireland wales and the south—west will turn cloudier with some of rain by with some outbreaks of rain by dawn . those outbreaks rain dawn. those outbreaks of rain move the country. the cloud thickens across all parts after a bright start in the east and it turns milder these winds freshening from the southwest. so 11 to 14 celsius generally first thing thursday . and 5 to 6 first thing thursday. and 5 to 6 celsius for the north—east of scotland. here it's a bright until the rain pushes in by the end of the day and that wet
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weather sweeps across scotland. the northern ireland during the afternoon. but it moves into england and wales during the overnight period, clears as the southeast by dawn friday. so for many places it's wet overnight and then it's drier by dawn on friday. spells for the southern half of the uk very windy further north with gales for western scotland, especially for the northwest where 60 to 78 mile per hour wind gusts are to early on friday. the winds do ease through the day showers first. eventually start to ease as well . but first. eventually start to ease as well. but it's first. eventually start to ease as well . but it's only first. eventually start to ease as well. but it's only a first. eventually start to ease as well . but it's only a brief as well. but it's only a brief gap once again between weather systems on friday because more unsettled weather returns for the weekend, mostly the form of showers . we are gb news right . showers. we are gb news right. the nation you can get us on television on radio, on digital . we're absolutely everywhere. amazing you see amazing. you remind , me, of me, the european remind, me, of me, the european parliament. but here's the most important that we not part of the mainstream. we think and
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hello there. it's 6:00 on michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co, the show where we'll get into the things that have got you talking. and i'll tell you what, got you talking on monday. did you watch my show? you remember asking you new you remember me asking you new here what would be here and you start what would be your five priority choices for this country were richard this country if you were richard sunak well, i reckon someone was watching rishi sunak's watching because rishi sunak's been sharing his five been out today sharing his five point with the nation . did point plan with the nation. did you
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