hello there at 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co. the show where we'll get into the things that have got you talking today. and now i'll tell you who has been talking today. the of the talking today. the leader of the labour sir keir starmer. labour party, sir keir starmer. did hear what was saying? did you hear what he was saying? basically all about basically it was all about taking control. he's going taking back control. he's going to root out sticking plaster politics. so he is we are convinced by it. were you inspired by it and did you think that we were watching britain's next prime minister at work? i want your thoughts on that. and today, do you know the top ceos

in this country and more? by 2:00 this afternoon and then your average worker in this country will make in a whole year , does that matter? are you year, does that matter? are you one of those people that kind of say this inequality is wrong or do you look upon that and say, whoa, me, that is inspirational. i want to be a see an end, that kind of money. where do you stand on it all and are you a driver? if so, do you use the motorways? how fast do you draw is? are you anything like me? chance to be a fine thing. i go up and down often on a motorway and all i ever seem to get is roadworks and temporary speed limits. anyway the government is now reducing speed now proposing reducing the speed limit to 64 miles an hour. why well, you guessed it, net zero. i think it's ridiculous . but i think it's ridiculous. but what says you and how important to you is anti social behaviour? i think me it's the root of so many criminal activities . people many criminal activities. people that start small tend to go on and commit bigger crimes. so do

we need to put more focus on tackling anti—social behaviour? michael gove has been given that mandate. what do you make to it? should we do like what sadler did in new york when it comes to broken windows and tackle down or should we not sweat the small stuff and focus instead on the big give me your thoughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat give me your thoughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before; me your thoughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before we e your thoughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before we get ur thoughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before we get into |oughts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before we get into all]hts stuff and focus instead on the bwhat before we get into all of; . what before we get into all of that, bring ourselves up that, let's bring ourselves up to latest to speed with tonight's latest headunes. to speed with tonight's latest headlines . michelle thank you. headlines. michelle thank you. it's 6:00 pm bethany elsey. see with your top stories from the gb newsroom. prince harry has reportedly written a series of revelations about his relationship with his brother william and his autobiography, spare, which is out next week. the guardian newspaper , which the guardian newspaper, which has obtained a leaked copy of the book, says the duke of sussex accused his prince william of assaulting him in 2019. harry says the pair had an argument about his marriage to meghan, who william allegedly described as difficult, rude and abrasive. harry also claims

william and kate encouraged him to wear a uniform to a fancy dress party in 2005. but game palace has refused to comment on the reports. the labour leader has promised to take back control by devolving power from london to communities across the country. that's if his party wins the next election. in his first speech of the new year, sir keir starmer set out his plans to grant local councils new control over employment support, transport, energy and housing. a day after rishi sunak outlined his five promises to the country , sir keir accused the country, sir keir accused the country, sir keir accused the prime minister of being in denial about the problems facing the uk . you saw it yesterday the uk. you saw it yesterday from the prime minister. commentary without solution more promises, more platitudes , no promises, more platitudes, no ambition to take us forward . no ambition to take us forward. no sense of what the country needs. 13 years of nothing but sticking plaster politics. it's why every crisis hits britain harder than

our competitors. the only country the g7 , still poorer country the g7, still poorer than it was before the pandemic . the worst decade for growth in two centuries. 7 million of waiting lists and rising while foreign secretary james cleverly hit back, said labour work is working against finding solutions over opposed desire to bnngin solutions over opposed desire to bring in a limitation on the abuse of unions which causing strikes that are hurting ordinary working families. he stood against our attempts to control illegal migration and get a grip of those people smuggling gangs. all the things that we've tried to do to bring real change, positive change this country, the labour party , this country, the labour party, have opposed time and time again and all we saw in that speech was the same old, same old from laboun was the same old, same old from labour. the government is proposing new laws to guarantee fire. ambulance and rail workers provide a minimum level of service during strike action. under the plans , unions could be

under the plans, unions could be sued if they don't provide adequate cover. what the level of service will be is unclear, but ministers say they will consult before setting it in law . a number of union bosses have criticised the proposals, but business secretary grant shapps says it's necessary for safety, especially within the nhs . for especially within the nhs. for example, you've got somebody who has a heart attack, maybe a stroke. the idea that there may not be an ambulance coming because there's a strike on, i think is unacceptable. we're not proposing to go the full hog. other countries, parts of america, canada or australia , america, canada or australia, they have legislation which bans those blue lights entirely from going on strike. we're not proposing that. i think it's very reasonable. what we're suggesting . new figures show 29 suggesting. new figures show 29 children have died in england from strep a since september. the uk says that brings the total number of deaths to 151 across all age groups in england in the last four months. for comparison , in the entire 2017

comparison, in the entire 2017 to 2018 season, there were 355 deaths. in total , to 2018 season, there were 355 deaths. in total, including 27 children. six women have been arrested following the death of arrested following the death of a one year old boy at a nursery recently. west midlands police say three of them were arrested last month on suspicion of gross negligence, manslaughter. they were all later bailed. a further three women were detained yesterday , two on suspicion of yesterday, two on suspicion of corporate mansel alder and one on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter. the nursery has since been shut down. the government has decided it won't government has decided it won't go ahead with a plan to privatise channel 4. the idea to sell the broadcaster was announced during boris johnson's government. former culture secretary nadine dorries had said the government ownership was holding the channel back, but her successor , michelle but her successor, michelle donelan, has decided the broadcaster shouldn't be sold and proposed other reforms, including greater commercial flexibility . you're up to date

flexibility. you're up to date on tv, online and dab , plus on tv, online and dab, plus radio. this is gb news. now let's get back to jeeves and . let's get back to jeeves and. co thanks for that, bethany. while i'm with you right through until 7:00 this evening and alongside me, i've got lord daniel moylan, the conservative peer in the house of lords, and james bloodworth, journalist and bloodworth, the journalist and the hired, which an the author of hired, which is an investigation into low wage britain. good evening, gentlemen. happy new year to you both . and the drill. both. and you know the drill. don't you? it's not just about those three here. about you those three here. it's about you at well. what's on your at home as well. what's on your mind you get in mind tonight so you can get in touch with me? gbviews@gbnews.uk is the email or you can me is the email or you can tweet me at gb news. just a quick reminder in case you've just tuned in to what we'll be tuned in as to what we'll be talking about tonight, cast armour, course, i see his armour, of course, i did see his speech today. what did you make to proposed that we to it? proposed also that we should motorway speed should make motorway speed limits 64 hour. it

limits 64 miles an hour. it makes me laugh. so it does because even sometimes getting to sometimes even 50, 60 miles an hour on our motorways is chance to be a fun thing, isn't it? but what do you reckon? 64 miles an hour. really i know in places like wales, some of you have written already saying have written in already saying about an hour about you got 20 miles an hour at limits on some of your at speed limits on some of your normal roads. it's just ridiculous, isn't petty ridiculous, isn't it? petty crime. do think we should ridiculous, isn't it? petty crintougher think we should ridiculous, isn't it? petty crintougher on:hink we should ridiculous, isn't it? petty crintougher on it? k we should ridiculous, isn't it? petty crintougher on it? that'should get tougher on it? that's michael gove's new remit when it comes to antisocial behaviour . comes to antisocial behaviour. so yeah, let's just get into actually lots of you guys have beenin actually lots of you guys have been in with me already. been in touch with me already. i've to swear off the i've decided to swear off the harry thing today just because you know , just because, quite you know, just because, quite frankly, just goes on and on, doesn't it , frankly, just goes on and on, doesn't it, philip? you some. well you said michelle what's the welcoming say a bloke wearing a necklace that's is the harry and meghan email that made me smile this morning so it did that's the end of that. matthew says michelle, you look like a tomato . i think i'll take tomato today. i think i'll take that as a compliment. thank you very much. gareth says,

michelle, i watched salma . how michelle, i watched salma. how on earth is he going to do all the things that he promises they're going to make fly, they're going to make pigs fly, apparently with detail as to apparently with no detail as to how richard says yes how whatsoever richard says yes , i've just made a cup of tea ready for the best hour on tv. lovely. we've got our cup of tea as well. richard. someone offered to make me a cup of tea earlier on today, so they did and i accepted. and then i saw that they've put the milk in first. what is that about? i did not drink that cup of tea is ridiculous. you put your ridiculous. you don't put your milk in first. and i don't know when you call it eating . i don't when you call it eating. i don't dnnk when you call it eating. i don't drink tea . don't you know i'm drink tea. don't you know i'm now i'm a coffee person. i knew i thought it was going to tell me that you have this elaborate set up where you use these loose tea leaves and this beautiful porcelain thing, and then your butler pulls for butler comes and pulls it for you. and also , if you think you. and also, if you think i need me to deliver voting and get all of by get around all of that by telling you just don't drink telling you i just don't drink tea. i have this vision of lord moylan in the castle with the west and west wing of the boat and

everything. what about you? this is actually not what a work. is actually not what i'm a work. i'm working peer. that's. i do i'm a working peer. that's. i do it for, know, i do a job and it for, you know, i do a job and i in a flat. i don't live i live in a flat. i don't live in a castle. oh, really? oh, yeah. shattering of, yeah. you're shattering all of, you me home. now you know, sent me home. now yeah, i'm right. so, actually, i've got to ask you now on iris. it's not fair, milky cup milk is no bag than milk. no tea bag water than milk. good. that's good. that's a sensible ways to it. although sensible ways to do it. although i too many people use one i think too many people use one pack cup and i think it's a waste. yeah i think it's due to grandness to me about that use, i just use your tea bag for mine. yes. but at the same. and then can dry out and use it then you can dry out and use it for a fed cup and we don't use teapots anymore really. whereas you see pots to make and you see pots to make loads and no just do it straight no people just do it straight in that and i've got that cup. yeah. and i've got a bad habit because we to use bad habit because we used to use teabags when i was a kid. so i always leave about that much tea at the bottom of my coffee. because you used to swallow a tea in which was tea leaves in space, which was disgusting. anyway i'm not supposed about tea. supposed to talk about tea. let's didn't have let's move you didn't have a strainer. not have a strainer. i did not have a strange. posh you think strange. how posh do you think

we no anyway, we could do we were? no anyway, we could do a whole show on tea. and how you get the stranger for get past the stranger for tuppence? anyway, even tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when young, michelle, tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when is young, michelle, tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when is very young, michelle, tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when is very recent,], michelle, tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when is very recent, butichelle, tuppence? yes. well anyway, even when is very recent, but you.le, which is very recent, but you know, have been know, tea bags have been invented, think actually we invented, i think actually we did use for office training, but i it had holes in i think often it had holes in it. oh it would have had holes it. oh it would have had holes it you pulled it with gusto it if you pulled it with gusto it if you pulled it with gusto it overit it if you pulled it with gusto it over it would overflow it would over it would overflow of strainer, round the of the strainer, go round the sides. yeah, yeah. the sides. yeah, yeah, yeah. see the sun on do much of the sun move on and do much of the talk about what was supposed to be actually keir starmer saw be actually keir starmer we saw yesterday know instead yesterday didn't we know instead of dogma, i'm of think about case dogma, i'm moving colour of tea moving on to the colour of tea in head and i was about to in my head and i was about to start a whole conversation about the shared of table words. yesterday was really sunak, wasn't castile wasn't it? today was castile where giving his speech where he was giving his speech to nation. it was all about to the nation. it was all about things like how going to things like how he's going to take he wants to take back control. he wants to do things like more devolution. he's criticised using the short termism in politics, what he calls sticking plaster politics. i wonder, did you sit and listen today , james, and were you today, james, and were you thinking, yes , that's the next thinking, yes, that's the next prime minister? i think he will

be the next prime minister. i listened to some of it today. i think the take back control line, despite keir starmer himself being a remainer when that kind of thing actually mattered, i think the take back control line is a good one politically because lots of people in the red wall seat too, with traditional labour voters who voted for boris johnson did so the basis that the so on the basis that the westminster was going to take back control, on the basis that their local community would be able take control the able to take back control on the bafis able to take back control on the basis of up some of basis of levelling up some of these local communities which have been left behind. but i feel like many , many feel like today many, many people in those communities don't feel like they taken don't feel like they have taken back control service. public services don't work . local services don't work. local authority funding is in many places more patchy than ever. rishi sunak appears to have abandoned the levelling up agenda , which boris johnson was agenda, which boris johnson was was taxing , which i think was was taxing, which i think was one of boris johnson's better ideas. i think there is a political space there for him to say, look, you voted for brexit. i not have agreed with i might not have agreed with that. where is this taking back

control of our lives? people control of our lives? do people feel they're more in feel now that they're more in control daily lives control of their daily lives than in i very than they did in 2016? i very much doubt that. but do you think that answer to is think then that the answer to is about devolution what's about devolution? is that what's going the control going to give you the control back? think devolution makes back? i think devolution makes sense in some because sense in some respects because the local community is the they know what they what the needs are that specific area, the are in that specific area, the different different parts the different different parts of the country. the left country. so some of the left behind for behind areas that voted for brexit, industrial areas brexit, former industrial areas that needs a very different from from parts of say inner city london rural areas which have london or rural areas which have their problems . okay. lord their own problems. okay. lord mullan a prime minister in mullan was a prime minister in wales and were inspired by wales and we were inspired by starmer oh, wasn't starmer today. oh, i wasn't exactly inspired. he is of course a prime minister in waiting it's the waiting and it's the government's to ensure that government's job to ensure that he remains waiting a very long time has chance . the time. he has a chance. the speech was remarkable for two things, really. the first was how very full of contradictions it was . you know, he's going to it was. you know, he's going to solve the nhs but he isn't going to spend any more money on anything. he's going to increase

the numbers of staff, but he's going to be very careful about about the financial side of it. there sticking there won't be any sticking plasters and so on, but there aren't any policies replace aren't any policies to replace it. and going to, by the it. and he's going to, by the way , he's going to legislate to way, he's going to legislate to ensure the ambulance ensure that the ambulance service can leave the service can leave you on the side of road and have your side of the road and have your heart attack after the government put legislation government has put legislation in to stop happening in place to stop that happening or limit the chance of that or to limit the chance of that happening. he never will do that. if that if this legislation will legislation passes, it will remain statute book and remain on the statute book and labour never remove labour will never, never remove it, just as they never removed mrs. thatcher's union laws . but mrs. thatcher's union laws. but he's going to say this for the unions. it's very political in his speech. but the party agree with james about is that he's certainly been listening there's a people who within the a bunch of people who within the labour it's called the labour party it's called the blue are brexit blue labour group who are brexit supporting people who feel that the labour party has lost touch with its traditional base, which is certainly true and they feel they've got some solution to that for the first time that and for the first time they're listened to by the they're being listened to by the labour labour leadership. and so this of take control

this idea of take back control and to take it was very and trying to take it was very cheeky in a way. i mean, very audacious. take that phrase over and make the labour party fray as a matter very brave thing to do. i think he is onto something there i think he's wrong there where i think he's wrong and disagree with james and where i disagree with james is don't i think people is that i don't i think people do control over their do want more control over their lives and i think want, for lives and i think they want, for example, be you can example, not to be told you can only drive a 64 miles an hour on only drive a 64 miles an hour on on motorway because of net zero. that's the sort of thing they don't they want to in don't want. they want to be in control of. i the idea of control of. i think the idea of simply we're going simply saying we're going to have level of regional have a new level of regional government, more a government, more mayors, a bit more for councils. think more power for councils. i think that to taking back that approach to taking back control will is tremendously unimagined , non—native and has unimagined, non—native and has increased hinckley misses the point there has to be something more imaginative and more effective which feels makes people feel that they are more in charge of their lives, not simply that they've got another level of local government on top of and what's waiting this of them. and what's waiting this whole kind of sticking plaster thing. to me, one of thing. because to me, one of the problems in politics the

problems in politics at the moment all about how do moment is it's all about how do we get ourselves re—elected , how we get ourselves re—elected, how do we get to the next five years, the next five years, the next years? and on and on next five years? and on and on it goes. i think that is so it goes. and i think that is so detrimental to the needs of this country because the long term stuff either become stuff it does either become a political football just to secure next five year secure that next five year victory or be forgotten about it. yeah, i mean , i think social it. yeah, i mean, i think social care would be good example of care would be a good example of that. so many over the years there have been many proposals to reform social care. so theresa may, in 2017 had a plan to tackle social care and then the opposition labour party under jeremy corbyn branded the opposition labour party underjeremy corbyn branded it the dementia tax and that was that was kicked into the long grass. borisjohnson that was kicked into the long grass. boris johnson had a plan to tackle social care . i'm not to tackle social care. i'm not sure what's happened to that now and i know he's been deposed. and the reason why this this matters is because the nhs crisis we now is partly crisis we see now is partly a consequence of the social care system not working. so you have people in hospitals, elderly people in hospitals, elderly people in hospitals, elderly people in beds , they cannot be people in beds, they cannot be discharged because there's not

an social system an adequate social care system to discharge and two, we also don't a workplace workforce don't have a workplace workforce plan, one anyway plan, an effective one anyway for nursing in the nhs. jeremy hunt has that point before hunt has made that point before himself so get this, himself. and so you get this, this short term situation where one in ten nursing posts in the nhs are just unfilled. and that's part of the reason why. i mean we can talk about ambulances not turning up because of strikes, but but aside strikes and no, aside from the strikes and no, in normal times an ambulance takes on average one hour to reach somebody's night. so if they're heart attack, they're having a heart attack, there's good chance the there's a good chance that the ambulance to get ambulance is not going to get there time , strike or not. so there on time, strike or not. so there on time, strike or not. so there problem already in there is a problem already in workforce planning. yeah and i think like whole kind of think like the whole kind of nofion think like the whole kind of notion and reform notion of innovation and reform and change that's come through a lot in both speeches in these last 48 hours. but i don't know. we've actually either of the two big parties and we've got the kind of the chops, if you like, to make major change to really pick things up and say actually , this is broke and whatever it is , whether it's the nhs or

is, whether it's the nhs or whatever this is broken and we're going to do a full true root and branch reform because that's short term. it's that's not short term. it's a huge long project that will huge long term project that will take an element of being unpopular to achieve. and i just don't if either main don't know if either main parties got that in do parties got that in them. do you? think they have . you? i don't think they have. and i think the truth is that the whole notion of long term reform, let's take this phrase workforce planning in the nhs, which has become a very popular thing. is we should thing. the idea is we should have plan workforce have a plan for the workforce over five, ten, over the next five, ten, whatever period is, so we whatever the period is, so we can look forward say what can look forward and say what the needs to be. but the workforce needs to be. but that always to be based that is always going to be based on idea that the workforce on the idea that the workforce is to be growing and is going to be growing and the truth we've of run out truth is we've sort of run out of to spend on government of money to spend on government things. we're now spending force is now the government is now spending nearly 50, 47% of national income compared to 35% back in the 1990s. and there is a limit to how far you can go. so the brave government is the one that says we have to face up says we really have to face up to choices about what we spend money on and we won't be able to

do and we need to do everything and we need to take with in all of take people with us in all of that. few politicians that. but very few politicians are willing to make that, to say that sort of thing, to the electorate. the sunak speech yesterday, rishi sunak speech yesterday, rishi sunak speech yesterday was very different in character from from keir starmer because what he was trying to do was manage down expectations and set himself a limited number five sort of goals that that with a bit of luck and a fair wind and hard work, he thinks he can sort of get through and pass those so that in a year or so is timing and say, well, i've achieved my goals. so it's very different in character from what keir starmer was trying to do. and it wasn't a speech. and but it wasn't a speech. therefore that was going set therefore that was going to set out. these the major out. these are the major structural i'm going structural reforms i'm going to achieve society in the next achieve for society in the next 24 long it is 24 months. so however long it is to the next election. well, part of keir starmer's speech today and said we've got and i quote, he said, we've got and i quote, he said, we've got a fully costed plan for the biggest nhs training programme in but where is it in its history, but where is it then?i in its history, but where is it then? i mean, i'd be surprised if he was really saying the

details of all policies at details of all his policies at this stage . well, i think i this stage. well, i think i mean, i think one of the points that i think should be made is we end spending more money on we end up spending more money on these because there is a these things because there is a lack of long term planning. so with the nhs for example, because don't have adequate because we don't have adequate staffing, used to staffing, then agencies used to bnngin staffing, then agencies used to bring in nurses and agency staff are paid a lot more. therefore we end up spending lots more money the same with the money on that. the same with the same thing applies. so we refuse to inadequate social to pay for inadequate social care system where i think one of the is money. and boris the issues is money. and boris johnson made point we have johnson made this point we have to want social care to if we want a social care system that's that humane and decent, actually be decent, we have to actually be willing for it. and willing to pay for it. and because don't, we up then because we don't, we end up then spending money in nhs spending more money in the nhs for emergency care because there's no to there's simply no way to discharge the people from into social hospitals. it social care, from hospitals. it doesn't bit doesn't bother me a little bit though am in the camp though because i am in the camp of absolutely need a better of absolutely we need a better thought out social care plan and all rest of it. but when all the rest of it. but when i always hear, oh, you've got to be for it, then be prepared to pay for it, then you've got to be prepared to pay for that. well, we already spend

a we pay so much a small fortune. we pay so much tax, highest burden. now tax, the highest tax burden. now and how many and goodness knows how many decades. why don't you take some of that put it into of that money and put it into social care and instead just social care and instead we just keep there's not keep getting told there's not enough as enough money. but yet, as i whinge about frequently my whinge about frequently on my show, we seem to find money for pretty everything pretty much everything anywhere when to other countries when it comes to other countries and it annoys little bit and it annoys me a little bit that does bit of that. just that does a bit of that. i just say quickly, it's easy, say very quickly, it's easy, much for government to much easier for government to find lump money, one off find a lump of money, one off for emergency than it is for for an emergency than it is for any irrespective of any government, irrespective of party, through the grind party, to go through the grind of yeah, after year after of saying yeah, after year after year to money year we're going to find money to service to maintain the service and increase it with inflation and even if there's even above inflation, if there's extra demand, that's where it breaks down. it's always possible to that four 400 billion for covid and that's a one off and forget it. like you know, it isn't a one off and forget it. it's had major consequences, but it's much easier to do that than to say we're going to spend this amount of every year, year after of money every year, year after year yeah of money every year, year after year year. and so you year after year. and so you think you think in your own

savings, you know, think i'm savings, you know, you think i'm being harsh. let's being a little bit harsh. let's have at some of have a look at this. some of what you guys have been getting in touch and saying, d says it looks like labour just looks like labour are just planning buck again planning to pass the buck again by more power to by giving more power to local councils to more councils just to learn more fluff. d says if you should look to wales if you want the truth, mark says labour will not gather enough support to replace the tories . the standard of our tories. the standard of our politicians is at an all time low and i found this fascinating. the point you make there, mark, because many people , me included, do criticise the calibre of the people going into politics at the moment . so then politics at the moment. so then that would automatically lead to a conversation about, okay, if we want better calibre people at it. an hour from the world of business whatever, we business or whatever, should we look at increasing their salaries and then the minute you go down that route, people will 90, go down that route, people will go, how i got no, go, whoa, that's how i got no, they 80 or grand a year. they get 80 or grand a year. that so i'd be that is enough. so i'd be interested thoughts. interested in your thoughts. mike, if you want mike, do you reckon if you want to attract a higher calibre of person, we should pay our employees ian says .

employees more? ian says. michelle, can i just say one simple thing where is starmer going to find all this money from the commission? all of these promises as well as ever? the devil is in the detail and as rishi did yesterday, starmer said he will be releasing more details in the coming weeks and months. dave says, michelle, why don't you mention reform? and richard tice, his speech was inspiring . richard tice, his speech was inspiring. unlike the richard tice, his speech was inspiring . unlike the spineless inspiring. unlike the spineless idiots , his words, not mine, idiots, his words, not mine, that we heard from today. and i've got to say, the thing that you guys are talking about more than stuff , you guys are talking about more than stuff, emma, i mean, what have i started is tea and how to make tea. nick says michelle milk is used in tea to stop the brewing process . it definitely brewing process. it definitely has to be added last approximately 5 minutes after the wall to really who stands there and where. it's a 5 minutes before you put your milk in you tube freezing cold. i've got a i've got a tea question if anyone can answer. is it better to pour the boiling water on the tea bag as soon as it's boiling? or is it? but it's a wait a

minute for some teas. it says, wait. well, says put it on wait. well, it says put it on straight away. i think that's all to. no, i can at all boils down to. no, i can at that down to just say what that boils down to just say what is that how much limescale you've got in a kettle? because i think if you've a nice i think if you've got a nice clean limescale kettle, limescale does limescale free kettle. so does it get the water in if it boils can get the water in if you unfortunate enough to you are unfortunate enough to living where living like a hard walls where you've got lot of limescale you've got a lot of limescale you've got a lot of limescale you to a second for you need to wait a second for the to settle down. the limescale to settle down. that's nothing to do with the tea bag. that's nothing to tea bag. yeah, that's nothing to do the and then do with the tea bag. and then i think it's what if you put it here you went too long, you here and you went too long, you get line, you get like a get like a line, you get like a film and then when you put your milk and then you just go like this floating film, it's not good. it's really not good. it's rustic coffee. yes in says rustic to coffee. yes in it says michelle, i use teapot michelle, i use a teapot every day gives you day and one tea bag gives you two mugs. i think you can get three out of a tea bag. if i'm honest, tea leaves in a pot with a nice tea strainer. not one of my lordships to pay plastic ones, jonathan, ones, he says. and jonathan, i'll before i go to i'll end on this before i go to my break. stick with tea discussion. michelle it's much

more keir more interesting. think keir starmer say could starmer i've got to say i could talk about say all day long, but i'm sure how interesting i'm not sure how interesting that would really be. so i've got to take a quick break. when i come back, i want to ask you this. do you care about the fact that ceos in this country by that top ceos in this country by 2:00 this afternoon will have earned and your average earned more and your average worker have done in the worker will have done in the whole does matter to whole year? does that matter to you? you or do you you? does offend you or do you think all's when it comes think all's fair when it comes to give me your to business? give me your thoughts and i'll see you into .

hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, michelle dewberry keeping you company. it's 7:00 tonight alongside my lord daniel moylan is a concert of power in the house of lords and james bloodworth is a journalist and author of high end the investigation into low wage britain , which is quite wage britain, which is quite

handy given our next topic, which is going to be all about pay- which is going to be all about pay. we just been talking about the starmer situation . i'm the starmer situation. i'm trying to find someone that was really deeply inspired by what you had today. if you're out there, get in touch and let me know. richard says, michelle, can i get some credit, please, for accidentally starting an interesting tea debate? yes, you can. credit yours. can. they go credit is yours. and this one, i think, is a very important question. just want important question. i just want to move to to address before i move on to the next topic . david says, the next topic. david says, michelle, can your channel please get subtitles for all people at a hard of hearing? well i think that is crucially important . well i think that is crucially important. david, i agree well i think that is crucially important . david, i agree with important. david, i agree with you. and we do actually have them now. it did take a little while for reasons outside of our control, we have subtitles control, but we have subtitles if you switch them on, if anyone struggles to pleased struggles to hear very pleased to say that they are now active . so let me know if you've got any problems with that. let's move then, shall we, and talk move on then, shall we, and talk about wage inequalities. we're very on our way into the very early on our way into the work in your first week of it, to be precise, bought already

2:00 this afternoon, bbc nice. some of britain's top bosses have earned more now than what your average worker will have done across the whole year. that's according to the high pay centre you've written a book about low wage inequality . how about low wage inequality. how does this matter? the difference between your average worker pay and the top ceo? yeah, i think it does matter, but i mean, the issue with my book was i think it matters less if everybody within the company is being well , well remunerated. so i spent some time during the research for my book. i works for amazon, which at the time jeff bezos was the richest man in the world and that went on the cover didn't. yeah, yeah. and there were people i encountered whilst yeah, yeah. and there were peoplecover i encountered whilst yeah, yeah. and there were peoplecover at ncountered whilst yeah, yeah. and there were peoplecover at amazon ed whilst yeah, yeah. and there were peoplecover at amazon who hilst yeah, yeah. and there were peoplecover at amazon who were under cover at amazon who were employed amazon, working employed for amazon, but working for one of the agencies that amazon in. of amazon brought in. and some of those people being paid those people were being paid below minimum wage below the minimum wage by somebody was billionaire somebody who was a billionaire effectively. that's effectively. i thought, that's a legal pay we're not paying legal pay and we're not paying someone the minimum that's someone the minimum wage. that's illegal. yeah, know on paper illegal. yeah, i know on paper it's illegal, but it wasn't being enforced. is

being enforced. so that is a problem. and even just paying them wage, think them the minimum wage, i think is like it now that neither is i like it now that neither their wages been increased their wages have been increased after campaign by the after a big campaign by the unions book by unions by my book by politicians, the ways that was increased to £10 sometimes plus an hour for first off in the warehouses but i do think it does become a moral issue when this idea that the ceos of these companies should be billionaires. yet you have people barely struggling to make ends meet on the shop floor. i do think that's a moral issue. so what do you think the do you think there should be some kind of. i don't know, some kind of ratio if the ceo ratio or something if the ceo ends x, then therefore you'll have it down to a ratio of y. so you have a certain you only ever have a certain kind of disparity between the lowest. then on the ceo, i think there's there's a case of there's a there's a case of publishing the ratios. so they do that in some scandinavian countries, publishing countries, they're publishing the so the ratios within companies. so you much the boss is you know how much the boss is earning, how much you're running as of your ceo's as a percentage of your ceo's wage . not. i think it'd be wage. i'm not. i think it'd be quite hard to actually legislate

for that. so one of the things with amazon and some of the companies i work for, the reason why they get away with why they could get away with paying why they could get away with paying below minimum paying people below the minimum wage, agencies was because wage, these agencies was because there unions there were no trade unions having these having access to these warehouses. there was no warehouses. so there was no kind of organic enforcement of organic organic enforcement on shop floor, so to speak , on the shop floor, so to speak, which you wouldn't you just wouldn't see that happening in an organisation where where there trade unions. and so there were trade unions. and so i a case for getting i think it's a case for getting trade trade trade unions. i mean trade unions are strong in some unions are very strong in some pubuc unions are very strong in some public sector organisations, but the if you to a warehouse the if you go to a warehouse that makes clothes or you go to an there are an amazon warehouse, there are no unions inside no trade unions inside is slightly but don't slightly perverse, but you don't need unions to enact the need a trade unions to enact the law. it illegal this law. it is illegal in this country to pay people below minimum and what a lot of minimum wage and what a lot of companies, i think being forced. yeah well what a lot of companies do and they're quite cheeky so what they'll cheeky with it. so what they'll do pay you the do is they will pay you the minimum but they'll do minimum wage but then they'll do all like little all manner of like little things. so i don't know, they'll take your tea, break out of that or they'll make you clock in and then by time get to then you're by time you get to your or whatever,

your workstation or whatever, you've actually work and you've actually started work and your pay has been running and actually you're not getting the minimum wage. so some people are quite . there's a what i'm quite tricky. there's a what i'm trying to do is a tea time. i'm thinking of an alternative . but thinking of an alternative. but where do you stand on this? pay equality specifically? well the first question was how do people see and think the way see it? and i think the way people in this country said is partly driven by by questions of dessert and fairness and so if you have somebody who is , let's you have somebody who is, let's say, a sports man or woman who is earning a very large amount of money because of their skill, because of the training they put in, because of their hard work people don't they're people don't feel they're resenting also because resenting that. and also because they're risk, because they're taking risk, because if you yourself, know, you enjoy yourself, you know, your earnings could go that very short career and you have a short career and you have a short career and you have a short career . so i short career and you have a short career. so i think short career and you have a short career . so i think people short career. so i think people recognise that . i think they recognise that. i think they recognise that. i think they recognise also people recognise it also with people who own business who started their own business and battled through to and have battled through to set and have battled through to set a business up and to make it go where i think it really cuts in is when you have these corporate

behemoths like you know, like the listed companies where the big listed companies where there that these there is a sense that these people aren't making a contribution that justifies the level its it's bargains level of its it's bargains turned whoever my turn turned it's whoever it's my turn at top for years and at the top for four years and i collect the money and then i go off on the pension. it doesn't matter whether the company does well or badly during that period. it's about private period. it's all about private industry i'm industry sector. what i'm talking about private industry here. and although i'm generally very much in favour of free markets , the fact is that for markets, the fact is that for many of these large companies now and this is a general thing happening in this country, is that the government itself has taken over the direction effectively of large amounts of private companies because their using private capital and private companies to deliver government policies. you take water companies, for example. they're private companies , but they're private companies, but they're not actually taking the risks that are commensurate with a private company. they're really being used as train operating companies are in a similar position. and we're

going to a position now where the oil companies, energy companies, bp, they're becoming effectively tools of government policy . now, when you that's policy. now, when you that's good them. they like that good for them. they like that because risk it and because it reduces risk it and then what companies companies love profits but they hate risk even more than they love profits . and so reduces risk . and . and so that reduces risk. and they like all of that. they play along that. but it means along with that. but it means they're taking the risks, they're not taking the risks, they're not taking the risks, they're the they're not making the contribution say, somebody contribution that, say, somebody take my other example, a sports person is who is taking risk. you do think when you think. i think people have a sense of fairness about that. that's big pay- fairness about that. that's big pay. that's that's about top pay- pay. that's that's about top pay. then there's the question , pay. then there's the question, low pay at the other end. obviously there are people who behave badly, people who should behave badly, people who should be who shouldn't do be people who shouldn't do things like but these are things like that. but these are these these are classic questions of what aristotle called distribute of justice that have been debated now for, you know, two, two and a half thousand years and longer. and the funder mental question, michel as you will recognise , is michel as you will recognise, is whether you should leave this to

the forces of society interacting or whether you need a big government coming in, decide what's right and imposing it on people. and the trouble is that although the latter looks really quite attractive , it really quite attractive, it nearly always ends badly. yeah. and you've got to. you've got to be. i'm going to bring some of your thoughts in on some of this now as well. but you've got to be mindful well that you're be mindful as well that you're trying attract top talent and trying to attract top talent and you're you're in you're you're fishing in a global pond. so i don't know if here well, you here we start saying, well, you can pay a c, don't know, can only pay a c, i don't know, let's just say can only pay a c, i don't know, let's just sa y £1,000,000. let's just say £1,000,000. i'm plucking that out my, but £1,000,000. a top £1,000,000. well, if i'm a top q £1,000,000. well, if i'm a top c, why am i going to go and work at particular company at this particular c 100 company here at this particular c100 company here could go to know here when i could go to know whichever could go to america whichever i could go to america and get £6 million? i wouldn't do it. so therefore, all you're going is out on some going to do is miss out on some of top talent. steven you've of the top talent. steven you've just emailed in and you're saying premiership football footballers more in a week footballers and more in a week than the average chief exec ends in a year . i than the average chief exec ends in a year. i think there's absolute loonies , say, in some

absolute loonies, say, in some of these premier league footballers salaries. i mean, you mentioned that u—turn, you're saying. well, yeah, i country is premier league is gone as is the thing that disproves my argument because that really has gone through the other and come round come other side and come round come round grotesque round the back it's grotesque how much some of these footballers get in terms of percentage professional footballers who earn those those outrageous wages , i would say. outrageous wages, i would say. i mean, i'm not to defend those wages, but i mean, the premier, a small of players in the premier league earn outrageous salaries. but then there are many leagues people are many leagues where people are professional they professional players but they don't like that. don't earn anything like that. true michelle. all true poll, says michelle. all ceos salaries are ceos on four figure salaries are completely out of touch of what their workers going through. there definitely needs be a cap on their salaries, but then how do attract the top talent? do you attract the top talent? then assume that you then because i assume that you want your ceo to be the very best in class because if he or she is not the best in class, the business is not going to prosper. if the business doesn't prosper, you're not going to have a job the end of the day have a job at the end of the day anyway. so are you going to

anyway. so how are you going to attract talent we cut attract that talent if we cut pay attract that talent if we cut pay this country and other pay in this country and other countries? darren the countries? darren says the beauty capitalism that one beauty of capitalism is that one can how much can choose how much responsibility see and responsibility to see and therefore much pay has. therefore how much pay one has. i'm happy taking pay for i'm happy taking less pay for less responsibility, says . less responsibility, says. darren who's there, steve? i think pay must reflect performance . my niece is the performance. my niece is the head of the evening standard. she's worked hard and she's wealthy and i say good on her. yes, i say good to on someone, says michelle, why don't you look at the figures after tax and then the hourly rate? some ceos never sleep. this is very true and lots of you are still writing in aboutt true and lots of you are still writing in about t one and a half. did we start right. i'm going to take a quick break. when i come back, i'll have some more of your thoughts . and i more of your thoughts. and i also want to talk about motorway speed limits . the government has speed limits. the government has been to reduce the speed been urged to reduce the speed limits now to 64 miles an hour. why? you guessed it all in the name of net zero. ridiculous. what do you think? tell me and i'll see you .

in two. i'm committed. so many join on gb news on sunday morning for a politics show with personality on tv, radio and online gb news the people's channel. britain's news . channel hello there. news. channel hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, michelle tube. we're keeping you company right through until 7:00 tonight alongside me, lord daniel moylan, the tory peer in the house of lords, and james bloodworth, a journalist the bloodworth, a journalist and the author high end, which author of high end, which was investigating low wage britain . investigating low wage britain. his dog says , michelle, we all his dog says, michelle, we all have an opportunity to improve an animal too much jealousy on high earners in this country. a ceo will pay more tax in a few years than your average working

man would in a lifetime. that's was talking about the fact that top ceos will have earned more by 2:00 today than your average worker will do the whole of this year.i worker will do the whole of this year . i was worker will do the whole of this year. i was asking you worker will do the whole of this year . i was asking you whether year. i was asking you whether or not that bothers you or not. gordon says. i couldn't care less what anybody else i have no wage envy at all. i agree with you, but somewhat says james, is pointing out whether or not it is actually fair to have such discrepancies or not. still, lots of you wanted to talk about t pizza says i put myt lots of you wanted to talk about t pizza says i put my t back on a spoon and i pour boiling water on the donk a few times in a cup and at the milk cobbler. matt sells a little bit, elaborates me, but i h the urn sells a little bit, elaborates me, but i h the um i guess. anyway, do you drive ? if so, do anyway, do you drive? if so, do you happen to be on motorways often or not? if so, i'd love to know what speed you managed to average these days, because they always cease to be these temporary variable limits. there's roadworks everywhere. you name it. so a chance to hit the speed limit would be a fun

thing at the best of times. but a parliamentary committee basically now is proposing that we bring in the speed limit on our motorways down to 64 miles an hour . this is all about our motorways down to 64 miles an hour. this is all about net zero. basically a lot more than a good idea or not. no, just we have to you know, there are people out there, including some mps, whose main role in life and many members of the house of lords whose main role in life is to make everybody's life as miserable as possible because they're convinced the is they're convinced the world is coming end. i mean, that's coming to an end. i mean, that's it. and if you don't actually buy into this idea , the world buy into this idea, the world coming an end you believe coming to an end or you believe there other things could there are other things you could do about it, even if you know, even if there is some climate change could behave in change that you could behave in a way about it. a different way about it. they're not going have they're not going to have it. so it's to come down from 70 it's going to come down from 70 to a very precise, calculated 64. you know, 64, 65. it's not 63 and a half. they've worked it out down to the they haven't got a clue whether it should be 70, 75 as it is on the continent. most places, 65, 64 is just the

number plucked out of the air to make us all feel bad. and may i make us all feel bad. and may i make a point? you may we all have this idea that the speed limit 70 miles an hour on limit is 70 miles an hour on a motorway. you made the point about variable speed limits. more and more of motorway is more and more of our motorway is they're not being rolled out any more. lot they're not being rolled out any m

obviously but when you do see theyou ariable things overhead, obviously but when you do see theyou arialattention overhead, obviously but when you do see theyou arialattention ovthem d, obviously but when you do see theyou arialattention ovthem or do you pay attention to them or not? what do you make of all this reducing to yeah, this reducing to 64? yeah, i mean , i just think it's this mean, i just think it's this kind of silly gimmick, i kind of silly gimmick, really. i think agree with trying to think i do agree with trying to reduce the amount, the environmental impact of cars, for example . i just think this for example. i just think this is a silly , unrealistic way to is a silly, unrealistic way to do it. i think if you travel on the motorway presently and you're not in one of those variable speed limit areas, you see many people , i would see that many people, i would say people not even say most people are not even adhenng say most people are not even adhering 70 mile an hour adhering to the 70 mile an hour limit. so i would say it's unrealistic to because they feel safe i'm endorsing safe to drive. i'm not endorsing that, don't think they are that, but i don't think they are safe . that's the other. yeah. in safe. that's the other. yeah. in terms drive takes terms of the drive takes motorways relatively motorways are relatively safe. we i think this is we know this i think this is right why they're not heavily enforced. this would be not enforced. but this would be not about safety no be about morality. i think i think it's more would be enforcing it. i think more effective think they're more effective things look i mean cars things to look at. i mean cars that idling give more that are idling give more emissions than a car travelling at 70 miles an hour. and one of the reasons we have lots of cars idung the reasons we have lots of cars idling because the roads in

idling is because the roads in very maybe very badly congested. so maybe we actually try and deal we should actually try and deal with that. there should be with that. maybe there should be greater to for car greater incentives to for car producers to make cars more fuel efficient. i just think it's to try and nanny people into driving a bit slow to 64. again as was mentioned this this completely arbitrary figure is just another everyday nuisance . just another everyday nuisance. yeah it's all very odd. apparently 23% of britain's greenhouse gas emissions is caused from pollution, from transport. let's not forget, by the way as well, it's not just motorways that they're tinkering with speed limits, lots of more urban roads have seen their miles per hour reduced from 30 to 20, and a lot of that was planned, for example, in wales , planned, for example, in wales, which i found up through most of london too. yeah, it is. i see . london too. yeah, it is. i see. i get it. if you're driving past a school during school hours, then fair enough. i get the whole thing and i actually whole 20 thing and i actually would that but you know, would support that but you know, it's 20 an hour, 24, it's over 20 miles an hour, 24, seven roads where there's no seven in roads where there's no kids near in kids anywhere near you in bristol . they've they've now

bristol. they've they've now banned diesel cars from the centre of bristol, which i mean , hand, you can you , on the one hand, you can you can well, that's that's can say, oh, well, that's that's good the environment. but good for the environment. but lots of people with older, older diesel cars to be low diesel cars tend to be low income so they're income people. so now they're effectively banned from driving their central bristol their cars into central bristol , whereas people with , whereas wealthier people with a things do they a lot of things do what they want. part of the explicit objective reduce motor objective is to reduce motor vehicle trips by close to 30% by 2030. and of course it will be the people who be the richer people who will have the 70, who will, who will do the journeys and they don't mind. that's okay with them. it does feel a little bit like there's a war on motorists doesn't it? it motorists doesn't it? does it feel to you a little feel like that to you a little bit at home trying to slow down your motorway as trying to get your motorway as trying to get your your twenties? you've your is to your twenties? you've got of these of ulez got all of these kind of ulez charges. you lower traffic neighbourhoods. charges. you lower traffic ne those jrhoods. charges. you lower traffic nethose neards. charges. you lower traffic nethose near you? you've seen of those near you? you've seen these proposals of like 50 minute cities where you're only allowed leave your allowed to leave your area a certain amount times per year certain amount of times per year at who's who , who gets to say,

at who's who, who gets to say, actually that this is the way that we now have to drive our cars? i don't remember signing up to any of this stuff. do you get touch? tell me. gb views get in touch? tell me. gb views gb dot uk is the email gb news dot uk is the email address going take a quick address going to take a quick break. back, i'll break. when i come back, i'll have some your thoughts and have some of your thoughts and i also want to ask you about petty crime, anti—social behaviour if you you think we take it you do you think we take it theory enough in this theory easily enough in this country? do we need to country? do you think we need to crack down on michael gove crack down on it? michael gove has got that remit. let me know your thoughts and i'll see you .

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs & co with me. michelle dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. alongside me, lord daniel moylan is a tory peer in the house of lords and james bloodworth is a journalist and author. we've just been talking about and speed limits , about cars and speed limits, derek says. i live in a small

cumbrian village . the speed cumbrian village. the speed limit is 30 miles an hour, but due to a lack of policing mostly ignored, he says, a 20 miles an hour limit would be most welcome . i get what you say next. i suspect it's your house. maybe your kids are there. i don't know. but to me, 24 hours a day, 22 miles an hour , really? i 22 miles an hour, really? i think it feels a bit unnecessary to me. mark says the government will not be happy. michelle and so we're all back to using horse and cars. it won't change any of this until we stop voting for them. come the revolution that says mark nigel's emissions are terrible. yes. well, actually , terrible. yes. well, actually, when one of my viewers asked a very good question, michelle, if i got an electric car, would i still have to go at 64 miles an hour? as a very interesting question, which isn't interesting question. all these ridiculous controls at a stockpile of these emissions. if you've got an electric car, are you've got an electric car, are you exempt? when? that is a very good question indeed. i don't know the answer, but i suspect

it's no right. petty crime, anti—social behaviour . where do anti—social behaviour. where do you stand on it? michael gove. basically has been tasked with coming up with a plan to fix it. i've got to say, petty crimes , i've got to say, petty crimes, they sound trivial, but actually they sound trivial, but actually they really are a blight on many people's lives. i don't think that i people's lives. i don't think thati can people's lives. i don't think that i can say with say enough. some people would say that it's time to adopt what they did in new york for example, what they call the broken windows strategy, which is really strategy, which is you really clamp on clamp down, get tough on penalising small crime, anti—social behaviour. you agree or not? i mean, i, i agree in principle. but the thing is, burglary is not being investigated at the moment because there the because there aren't the resources , the police to resources, the police to actually do that, do those things. so i mean, where is i mean, are we saying that we want a more a tougher line approach with more crime? i with with with more crime? i wouldn't opposed to that. but wouldn't be opposed to that. but it doesn't feel like the existing are being enforced properly. say that, properly. i would say that, yeah, think anti—social yeah, i think anti—social behaviour many behaviour is a blight on many communities poorer communities, many poorer communities, many poorer communities, especially. i also think crime isn't

think violent crime isn't sufficient. i don't think the census for violent crime are sufficiently tough in this country. i think the priority is too often with violent criminals. criminals i think with this idea that you can reform those people over protecting the community. i do, however, think that when it comes to drugs, i think the focus should be on more on rehabilitation. but i do think yeah, i think you need to fund the police properly, though. if you you want to have this you if you want to have this crack down on anti—social behaviour because at moment behaviour because at the moment there's a, there's a quite well known statistic out there that i can't quite, quite remember about burglaries now about number of burglaries now that even being that aren't even being investigated police. what investigated by the police. what is to be is something that needs to be dean is something that needs to be dealt yeah, hardly any dealt with. yeah, hardly any older now older actually. every now and again get a chief again you get a police chief talking tough, don't you? saying right on my part. we're going to make we go out and make sure that we go out and visit every single burglary that gets all right. gets reported. yeah. all right. i'll it when it. i'll believe it when i see it. what do you like? it what do you sound like? well, it gets when i hear, you gets me going when i hear, you know, his problem the know, his problem with the pubuc know, his problem with the public service. the answer public service. and the answer has more money. we're has to be more money. we're

actually the government is putting 20,000 in. putting 20,000 more police in. and put the 20,000 and when they put the 20,000 more on, they still can't more police on, they still can't get away that. they say. get away with that. they say. and you say they're putting 20,000. think they 20,000. but i think didn't they actually by about 22? so all actually cut by about 22? so all they're doing is trying to restore all previous figures and not reaching that whatever not even reaching that whatever even if they do the 20,000, then it'll have to be 40,000 and so on. it actually a matter of management and priorities. it's also a matter of thinking things through i don't through properly. i don't think the minister fully the prime minister has fully thought is thought this through, which is probably given it to probably why he's given it to michael . do thinking michael gove. do some thinking about it. there is a big difference between anti—social difference between anti —social behaviour difference between anti—social behaviour and what you might call crime because lot behaviour and what you might ca what crime because lot behaviour and what you might ca what is crime because lot behaviour and what you might ca what is characterised; lot behaviour and what you might ca what is characterised and ot of what is characterised and called burglary petty i called burglary petty crime, i think crime is a major think petty crime is a major crime property and crime against property and a serious intrusion into your own private and protected space. i think burglary is a really serious crime and i the serious crime and i think the police should be doing more about that. but we to about that. but we have to decide and we should have some elected input elected some democratic input into what the priorities are in our area . and surely this is why our area. and surely this is why we have elected police and crime

commissioners. they're meant to be setting these priorities with democratic input . and in london, democratic input. and in london, are police and crime commissioner is the mayor of london now? have no idea what london now? i have no idea what the mayor of london strategy is. i'm not expecting him to be involved in operational matters because not lawful or because that's not lawful or proper. but i have no idea what the mayor of london's plan is any more than have other any more than i have other police commissioners , what police crime commissioners, what their plan is for the local. but what is the priority? what do i want the police do? should they be focusing on burglary or should focusing should they be focusing what worries crime worries me on organised crime because serious crime in because the serious crime in this and a lot of the this country and a lot of the violent crime is coming from gangs, organised crimes , people gangs, organised crimes, people running and running criminal businesses and effectively they're running businesses that are engaged in criminality , making super criminality, making super profits killing people very profits and killing people very often injuring them along the often or injuring them along the way what happens way. because that's what happens when the mafia. so when you get into the mafia. so we need priorities and we need an into it. we've got the an input into it. we've got the mechanisms not happening. mechanisms it's not happening. yeah. did you say by the yeah. did any of you say by the way, caught my eye. it was in

way, it caught my eye. it was in the papers. yes it i think it was some kid went into a toy shop with a £60 christmas money, dropped it in the toy shop. some fella went back and picked his money, went off with it and it was there cctv thing of was there was a cctv thing of the guy in the papers trying to find this fella for nick and this half of me was like, this money, half of me was like, yeah, the other yeah, good on you. the other part me was like, oh part of me was like, oh i suspect there's a lot of other people that need down for things. did you see it? what did you to it? lots of people you think to it? lots of people i says i agree there was no i feel says i agree there was no such as petty crime. such thing as petty crime. if your is burgled, that is your home is burgled, that is definitely, definitely not petty, allen says. simple bring back capital punishment . back capital punishment. goodness gracious me, lend a lot notes, gentlemen. thank you very much. thank you, michel. tonight. thank at home for yours. up next, you've got nigel farage. nigel good evening to you. what we got for us? thank you, michelle. what it should have been keir starmer's day. but it's man. prince harry again isn't it? with a string of revelations i'll be debating

tonight whether we actually believe that he's telling the truth or just singing for his supper. truth or just singing for his supper . me, i have to say, he's supper. me, i have to say, he's rather dim , rather low grade . i rather dim, rather low grade. i struggle to believe very much of what he has to say. we'll debate all of that in a moment and much more. but before all of that, let's get the all important weather. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather forecast from the met office. for most, it's going to be a dry and a bright day on a blustery start . the winds will be easing start. the winds will be easing through the day. it'll still be miles, just not quite as as it has been today. it's been very mild because tucked in here between these weather between these two weather fronts, it's warm sector and fronts, it's a warm sector and that's where the air is. that's where the mild air is. this is pushing south this cold front is pushing south tonight, bring tonight, though, that will bring a of rain . certainly some a spell of rain. certainly some fairly rain as it sinks fairly heavy rain as it sinks south. of course, england and tonight. it won't last too tonight. but it won't last too long. windy tonight, too , long. very windy tonight, too, across northern parts of scotland, especially western scotland, especially the western isles highlands , gusts isles in the highlands, gusts here strengthening through the early hours before steadily easing during tomorrow. clear

skies will follow that rain tonight and it will be a cooler start friday compared to thursday morning, but still far from cold with most of us several degrees above . and for several degrees above. and for many of us, it'll be a friday morning. still plenty of showers across northern scotland, but easing scotland, easing from southern scotland, a bit move into bit of cloud will move into wales western parts of wales and western parts of england with a few showers possible here and maybe some showers just across the far southeast. but for most, a draw in bright friday. temperatures in a bright friday. temperatures down today's values but still down on today's values but still fairly mild for the time of year on friday evening, we'll see a few more showers initially in the southwest. but then look at this, a line of rain and strengthening winds pushing that across places . we start the across most places. we start the weekend. some pretty wet conditions begin conditions then to begin saturday across the bulk of england, wales and southern scotland. rain will be scotland. that rain will be moving out into the north sea . moving out into the north sea. dher moving out into the north sea. drier conditions for time following into the west on saturday. but then the showers get going on saturday afternoon. the showers will be zipping along on a fairly gusty wind.

it'll be a mild day on saturday, but these temperatures probably early on, ten, 11, 12 celsius as the rain clears, temperatures will actually start to drop a little, but still fairly mild . little, but still fairly mild. temperatures back closer to average some day, but it will average on some day, but it will be another blustery , boisterous be another blustery, boisterous day sunny spells and day with some sunny spells and plenty showers .

by another set of revelations . another set of revelations. allegations as prince harry tells his truth. i'm going to be asking you whether you believe him, because it should have been the day for the labour party. yes. that tony blair impersonator, sir keir giving a big speech today, laying out his vision for britain over the course of the next decade. we'll

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